5 Fantasy Football Moves You NEED to Make Before Week 3: Is It Time to Drop Marvin Harrison Jr.? (Ep. 2208)

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Reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypro's.com/rankings. Tara, before we get into the players, you want to talk about how are you surviving this horrific, atrocious, awful week two? We were talking before we started taping. And holy cow, was this a less fun week than week one was? Yeah, yeah, I'm giving up on Justin Herbert. We're officially moving into the-- we're not going to move into Justin Herbert, a painter camp, but man, fool me once, shame on you, fool me like five times, shame on me. It hasn't been that much. It's been quite a streak of disappointing results over and over and over again. Thank God for Tyler Schuck at this point. That's all I got to say. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, well, I maybe would agree with that if he didn't just beat my raisins, but Schuck does look good and is deserving of some praise here. So I can't hate too much on it. Yeah, I mean, injuries, galore, low score. I think this Sunday afternoon slate had about 18 points per game fewer than week ones. Sunday afternoon slate, so just all the offense and then none of the offense. You know, major quarterback injuries, which are especially not fun, just really, really brutal all the way around. So we're hoping for a bounce back here in week three. Hard to believe we're already embarking on our week three journey this soon in the season. It feels like it feels sooner and sooner every year. You can't believe how quickly the season's moving along. Let's have some buys here, Tara. Who do you want to talk about? I said buy a bear last week. At the time, I did not know that we were facing a nasty weather situation where everyone, even Justin Jefferson, couldn't really push through from a fantasy perspective outside of the running backs. So I'm giving the bears a slight minor pass, a minor excuse. But at this point, I know that everyone is panicking on the bears. And then we have the whole Caleb Williams injury. Luckily, not seeming like it's that massive of an injury. They're saying week to week. But at least we know that it's more of a hamstring. So from a quarterback's perspective, this is not as detrimental as it could have been. But the one guy that I am still saying, hey, we still need to look at this as a by-low opportunity. It is close and loved one. So I ask people to hear me out on this, because two weeks into the season, loved one has literally just one catch for three yards. And fantasy managers are willing to offer a bag of peanuts to the point where they are ready to drop kick him to waivers. I have seen the evidence of people asking, like, do I drop this guy? So perhaps if you're in a shallow league, you don't even have to make this move. You can just wait and see if someone is frustrated and kicks him off to the roster. But in deeper leagues, they're not willing to let go quite yet. And there's valid freezing for that. And the reason is why I'm specifically advocating for coast and loved one. Because he is the tight end one. I know the fantasy points are not showing it. But he is on the field, upwards of 85% of snaps. He ran more routes than any other Bears pass catcher in week one. He ran a little bit less in week two, but still plenty. He is out there. The targets just aren't coming. And it looked a lot worse. It continues to look worse because this week, we got Sam Raus on the field for significantly less time, but was targeted just as much. So on the surface, if fantasy managers are looking at this, they're thinking that it's split usage when it's really not. It's just a very random, weird outcome. And hopefully the Bears look at their offense and say, we need to adjust the players that this offense is running through. We feel strong about our grand game, our ground game, but our pass catchers are just not putting up the numbers. And so we need to adjust how we are approaching for this. So I would go for Lovelin over Adunzay in burden. Because Adunzay is more of a risk for his work being affected by any Caleb Williams injury. And then Burden has the competition, unfortunately, from Cleveland, which is making me a little bit nervous. And then also his ceiling is just like a little naturally lower than Roma Dunzay in Colston, Lovelin, because of how he plays on the field. So for that reason, we are still buying Lovelin because he's still a significant presence on the field. And unlike, like if we pivot it to compare at another tight imposition of somebody who wildly disappointed, like looking at an Aronde Gadsdon, who now prior to these injuries, there's an opportunity for him if you're looking to jump on the waiver wires. But prior to injuries, Gadsdon's usage was straight up snatched by Charlie Kohler and David and Joku. So that is a situation where you would be panicking, because they obviously clearly adjusted his role within the offense. But it's not the same thing with Colston, Lovelin. So if people are really to the point where they are debating, dropping him, but they're just unwilling because how can you drop somebody that you picked that early? Make it easy on them. And it doesn't have to be a one-for-one trade. You can target him along someone else as well. If you were ranking rest of season, he was the clear tight end three coming in. Where is he at for you now? I moved him down. I know, and especially in the week two rankings, I know people were still holding on. I moved him down a little bit lower to a low end tight end one. I think that's an appropriate range. I could have him below a Dallas Goddard if I could trust him to stay on the field. And Isaiah likely, and I could have him below as well. But after that, things get very shaky with guys like Kyle Pitts and Mark Andrews. So there's only a degree to which he can drop. So he's still a tight end one. It's just he's pushed on back a little bit further. Give me another player to buy. - We are buying Garrett Wilson. This is not a buy-lift. So this is not like a, oh God, it's detrimental. We're buying low and it's a risk. It's a buy because what I think we're seeing is floor games. And the real upside is about to hit quite literally this week. So that is why it's a buy right now. Because you don't want to do it after this week because of the potential due to matchup for two weeks in a row. We have seen Garrett Wilson with seven targets. He caught six of those targets last week for 79 yards. He got five of those targets for 57 yards at a touchdown. Last week, it was a very low pass volume day because the Jets leaned on Breast Hall against Tennessee. This week, more volume from Gina Smith. Lots of volume he threw for just over 40 attempts. But less efficient. It was messy. It was a weather week again. They dealt with rain and that matchup. But again, he put up a nice floor, very moderate game. So we're seeing steady volume for Wilson. And he has not hit his peak usage. His floor right now is a low in wide receiver too. And we are hitting the wide receiver one game starting this week in a matchup against Detroit followed by a matchup against a very vulnerable Chicago secondary as well. Don't be fooled just because the secondary, I guess theoretically, could have looked better in terms of the low score this week. It was the weather that was really the issue. We have consistently seen Chicago secondary struggle not just this season, but last season as well. That is their weakness. They're tougher on the ground. So two great games. If you're going to target him now is the time to do so because the odds of him going off this week are very high. Wilson is a, it's a buy for people that are looking for a cost effective wide receiver one because it's the jets. And although they are doing well overall, there's clear improvement. People are just very skeptical. And people are skeptical of Geno Smith. So there's only so much of a hold that Garrett Wilson has on people. So it's a really easy one to slide in there and get a guy who's got a certain level of guaranteed volume. And it also helps that we see add and I Mitchell garnering targets and looking at as well. So that helps in terms of keeping him very cost effective. Geno Smith has looked much more effective on the jets compared to last season. The offensive line is holding up well. And again, add and I Mitchell as a deep threat ensures that defense is a kept on us. Multiple threats to account for. The receiving core is rounding out very nicely. I love Garrett Wilson as a buy before he goes off. I think this feels to me like a, you're, it's a, it's a wide receiver one at a wide receiver two price. Kind of the way you were putting it. I think that's, that's a good framing of it. It's not even just the next two weeks, which obviously are amazing with Detroit and Chicago. But, you know, Cleveland in that game is not in Cleveland. That defense tends to be worse on the road historically is in week five than New England. Then Miami and week seven, the Raiders in week eight, then a couple of tougher teams. But like the Chargers and week 11 don't look tough. Another Miami game in week 12. Like there are some real interesting matchups, particularly in the next five or six weeks, even beyond that, that are really intriguing. I think it's going to be a very fun stretch for Garrett Wilson, managers here that I'm very interested in. And I'm with you like the jets. Listen, are they a great team? No, are they better than their reputation would suggest? I do think so. And, and I think, I think this is not going anywhere for Wilson. I think that the floor just from his talent as a player is always going to be there. And then the ceiling, I think we, it's, it's very easy to imagine where it might be going forward. So I'm totally on board with you here on this one. I like this pick a lot. Let's go to the next player you want to talk about. I believe we have a cell. We do. And at this point, I don't know. Maybe I'm just asking for people to get angry with me. But we are going to sell Jalen Waddle. I know, I know people. But cell highs do tend to induce a little bit anger. So here we go. My advice on Jalen Waddle. So in week two is, was that, you know, we're still starting him, like, hey, we're not panicking just because there was a bad week one, don't let that deter you from a guy that you drafted and just permanently bench him unless something goes completely sideways. And he had a fantastic game. So this is no hate to waddle. He had eight receptions, 10 targets, well over 100 yards, Sutton remained, you know, much lower single-digit production, definitely a field stretcher, Pat Bryant faded. Thank God for that. But offenses don't always operate the exact same season to season, right? And we do have a change in play calling, but we should not forget the rule of coaster of the Broncos 2025 past catchers just because we saw the resurgence of Jalen Waddle this week does not mean that in week three, it won't go back to the week one usage. This is a very deep receiving core where they can adjust opt to adjust their usage of the receivers on a week to week basis according to matchups. This version of the offense that heavily targeted Jalen Waddle might not be the version that we see in week three against the Rams or in week four against San Francisco. This isn't an offense that functions like Seattle, where the volume is just funneling through JSN no matter what, it doesn't matter who is at quarterback, it doesn't matter what the game plan is, it doesn't matter the defense, it's going that direction. But Denver has not traditionally operated that manner. Everyone was obviously in on Waddle all off season. So selling him high right now, after an excellent game, doesn't really have to take much in terms of convincing people and it doesn't have to read as we're selling high and bailing out and panicking, you'll still get very good value. So him coming off of this game is a good time to get what he is actually worth and be able to pivot if you're weaker at another position. Perhaps you're weaker at running back, but you drafted very well in mid rounds. Maybe you have a Parker Washington in the Christian Watson and you can opt to sell Jalen model and upgrade at running back or perhaps you drafted poorly in mid rounds and you drafted well and maybe you want to take advantage of downgrading a little bit to guys who are viewed as less than like a Parker Washington and still be able to get really good value out of him and maybe a little bit more. I agree, generally speaking on Waddle, I also think it's worth like when you're looking at the schedule here. It's kind of the opposite of Garrett Wilson, where the next month and half two months is a pretty difficult schedule defensively, but then after you, after week 12, really, so getting into the end of the fantasy regular season in the fancy playoffs, that's when you get Miami, the jets, the Raiders, the bills across four straight games leading up to week 16. So I wonder if like, hey, don't, don't worry about the roller coaster here for the next, you know, several weeks, trade him away, or if you don't have him, don't bother, but then maybe go try to trade for him after the buy week, something like that where you are trying to play that game later on at the very least, I definitely agree with this, this next several weeks, I'm not interested in that roller coaster and it's, I don't have a lot of Jalen model to sell because I, you know, I totally understood, like, Debra was very excited about Jalen Waddle in this offense. I totally get it. He's a good player. It's a good offense. They gave up a lot of draft capital. I get it. Having said that, we've done this before with Todd Baton, like, I don't need to, I, this is what we expected. So yeah, I, I'm a word of this. Yeah. Yeah. If you want a chance to win the ultimate symbol of fantasy glory, the fantasy football championship belt courtesy of our good friends at trophy smack the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware, then this is your moment. This massive gold plated belt is built to make a statement. It's bold, it's heavy and it's guaranteed to turn heads in your league. Don't just win your championship, wear it to enter. All you need to do is subscribe to the fantasy pros YouTube channel right now. Drop a comment below on any of our videos. That is it. We'll be announcing a winner right here on the channel. So make sure to turn on notifications so you don't miss your chance to claim this championship belt and flex on your entire league. All right, Tara. Two more names to get to. One of them is a drop. Who do you have for us? Oh, we're going to drop Marvin Harrison, Jr. I typically am not one to advise a panic drop early season, but this is already a player that we were sketched out to begin with. And there is sadly absolutely nothing that should lead us to believe that Marvin Harrison , Jr. is going to transition into a start where the asset on this team unless injury happens and even then so it's going to take multiple because it is a sketchy situation for him in particular. He doesn't look great. Nick bride is the unquestioned first look in this offense. So everyone else is just running second fiddle. So you get into these tough matchups, which unfortunately Arizona does have a very tough schedule. You get into these tough matchups and often it will only be a guy like Trey McBride that is producing. We're two weeks deep and we've got more than enough evidence to show that Michael Wilson is the wide receiver one. I do believe that he's transitioned to the wide receiver one. He saw Arizona in two different games scenarios. So this is quite literally perfect for us to take this little tiny sample size and try to make sense of it, right? Two weeks ago, and the first week, he was out snapped and out targeted by Michael Wilson, actually in both games, out snapped and out targeted by Michael Wilson in both games. And it's not a dramatic difference, but it's more than enough to make us feel like there is a clear gap and we have a clear gap in rankings and a clear gap in trust. And we've seen it in a positive script for game. We've seen it in a negative script and it's just not working out for him. He is closer to Kendrick Borin than he is to Michael Wilson. And there's a gap for Michael Wilson to Trey McBride. So rolling him out and you're starting to line up on a week to week basis is just not the most effective way to weigh your fantasy league. So again, if you're failing in every single scenario, what can we really trust with you? If Marvin Harrison Jr. is primarily being used as a field structure and he's too sloppy to take advantage of the opportunities that he is getting and he struggles to truly separate where it stands still and we need to bail out for other options, even in 10 team leagues. I would drop. Well, so I would drop Marvin Harrison Jr. for a Denzel Boston just based on pure talent level, the only saving grace that he potentially has is that after San Francisco, they face the New York Giants and the Detroit. We know how Detroit is. But if he's burned you three weeks in a row, are you really going to roll him out and take that risk? Probably not. Are you passing over better assets that are on the waiver wire just so that you can hold Marvin Harrison Jr. and say, oh, let's start him against Detroit. I'm not ready to say I'm out and like putting the mail in the coffin on Marvin Harrison Jr. as an NFL receiver. I am ready to put the mail in the coffin on his tenure with Arizona. It's just so clearly not a fit at this point and it's a shame they spent really high draft capital. There was a lot of hype. It's clearly not working in Arizona. I'd love to see him traded to like one of these teams with receiver injuries right now, like the Ravens or the Texans, I think would be fun. Just to maybe see if a change of scenery, you know, kind of is a breath of fresh air and kind of gets his career going back in the right direction. It might not happen. He might just be not that good of a player. That's obviously very on the table given what we've seen the last couple of years. But I want to see it outside of Arizona before I'm ready to fully shut the door on everything. I would love to see a trade of a team trying to buy low on him in real life in fantasy. I think it's good to qualify put him here as a drop because people are going to see the name. They're going to think about the draft ranking. They're going to think about the fact that he was still like, you know, with the YG for 32 something like that and 80 P by the end of August, like that's that's a type of guy who is on your bench and you're kind of playing your flag here that it's not a don't ride this roller coaster. It's it's worth letting him go per PFF, fewest catchable targets amongst receivers with at least 60 receiving snaps this season. Isaac Tesla and Marvin Harrison Jr. have two apiece nobody else is under four. So they have half of what the next lowest of anybody with that many receiving snaps is you just got one catch the season. I mean, it's just it's hard to watch, but frankly, let's go to yeah, let's go to one last player here. Sarah, who are you shopping? Um, I am shopping and just FYI, I did not include Drake London as a pro by we have had him on the list last week. I'm still pro by Drake London, but I just wanted to give other options and one of those other options is to shop to be hovered around them your preface. This is not a you must sell high on to be hovered because I do believe he is the RB one. Um, it's a shop around to see if a very running back needy team and there are some running back needy teams out there who made some choices for their RB two didn't go robust RB. And they're sitting here trying to make it work with very shaky options and they're in need of an RB two. And Chuba Hubbard is an RB one, Jonathan Brooks got entered yet again in no way, shape or form. Do I believe that AJ Dylan is a threat to Chuba Hubbard? So while I'm not telling people like to panic on the Jonathan Brooks thing, but at the end of the day, we we feel very solidified in the upside that Chuba Hubbard offers. And now with Brooks walking away with yet another injury, it's just these nicks, right? As we continue to get that, people will start to feel a little bit more comfortable with valuing Chuba Hubbard for what he actually is because if there was no Jonathan Brooks, it wouldn't be a problem. We would value him as what he is in an offense that clearly has improved. Congrats, Bryce Young, they're pushing volume goal line opportunities. He's catching check downs and are catching clear targets at the goal line for receiving touchdowns. It's just a great setup and it's working for him. And as people start to let go of the Jonathan Brooks a little bit, they can start to get more comfortable. And actually you can, you know, potentially sell him for good value. And now was a good time while he is the clear RB one and there's no theoretical threat there. So you don't have to make this move because he is a very startable asset on a week-to-week basis that you can trust. But if you drafted Chubah Hubbard, unless you drafted super early in the summer, more than likely you didn't draft him as your ERB-2. So you might have other starters on a week-to-week basis where you're choosing between them and Chubah Hubbard and you're a wide receiver in flex and you're trying to figure out like, "Okay, what's the real upside? What am I trying to do?" And there's no reason to have him on your bench. So if you can afford it, capitalize on trying to flip to a position of need. His value is on the rise, everyone's starting to feel good about him. Jonathan Brooks' health liability again. Now was a good time to see what kind of value you can get for him. It's kind of funny if you look at the rest of season rankings at fantasyproz.com amongst running backs. And this will continue to be updated over the next day or two. It usually changes a bit early in the week. But as of right now, in rest of season consensus rankings, Chubah Hubbard, RB30, Jonathan Brooks, RB31. So they're back-to-back here. For Hubbard specifically, RB30, does that feel too high, too low or just right to you? It's too low. It's too low. I would move them up. But I get it because we do have some shifting assets like, you know, we'll see Travian Henderson move up, right? And then in Ramondra, Stevenson moved down. So you're still, we've got some shifts that are happening here, like a Rico doubtal and moving him down with the injuries and whatnot. So there's adjustments to be made. But I think that's still just a little bit too low for him or still holding on to you. And I liked Jonathan Brooks. But you know, it was always optimism that he would get on the field, stay healthy and have a chance to compete with Chubah Hubbard. Thus far, it doesn't look like it's happening. So I do think that he should move up in terms of rest of season rankings. We'll wrap up there. Go out and make these moves ahead of week three, four, Tara. I'm Ryan Wormley. Thanks for tuning in. 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