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5 Fantasy Football Moves You NEED to Make Before Week 2 (Ep. 2191)

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5 Fantasy Football Moves You NEED to Make Before Week 2 (Ep. 2191)

The podcast opens with a reflection on the potential decline in interest in Black literature, raising questions about representation and visibility during Black Reading Month. This theme is contrasted with a fantasy football analysis from the Fantasy Pros show, where Tara Roberts outlines key strategic moves ahead of Week 2. She recommends buying Drake London, citing the temporary quarterback situation in Atlanta and the high upside when Michael Pinnix returns. She also advises selling Don Kinkade due to injury history and diminished pass volume, while cautioning against a hard sell on AJ Brown, noting his expected drop in performance after a long injury absence. A similar caution is applied to Mike Evans, where despite an excellent performance, his injury history and age raise concerns about long-term availability. The overall message emphasizes strategic flexibility—buying on dips, selling on overvaluation, and using market reactions to capitalize on temporary trends. These insights reflect a broader theme of navigating uncertainty in both cultural and sports contexts, where foresight and adaptability are essential to success. The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of critical thinking in decision-making, whether in literature or fantasy football.

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This is an "I Heart" podcast, guaranteed human. Is there an epidemic against literature? More specifically, Black Literature. I'm Jack Wiespiece Thomas and on this season of the "Black Lits" podcast, we're outside asking why. They don't want a whole bunch of little elevators, Malcolm X's and Martin Luther King's on the route. And when you look at a lot of different cultures, feel like we need to know where you came from. And considering this is Black Reading Month, the only real question is, what are you reading next? Listen to "Black Lits" from the Black Effect podcast network on our "I Heart" video at Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Fantasy Pros, I'm Ryan Wormley, joined by Tara Roberts. Tara, we are back for year two of our moves to make series. We're going to be bringing you five moves to make ahead of each week. So, of course, this is ahead of week two. Hard to believe we're already even talking about week two. Week one has been so in my brain for the last several months that it feels a bit crazy. Frankly, to be thinking about week two already, but that is what we are doing. Just a reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasyproz.com/rankies. Before we dive in, Tara, I was just asking you before recording, but I'll ask you on air as well. How was week one for you? It was good. I separate everything out into categories. So, good fantasy week, great DFS week. Don't tell my kids or their ass for stuff. And then a betting week that any time touchdowns went sideways, but the players did good. So, I give myself like a mea Copa halfway. Like, you had the right thought process, but the touchdowns did not come for my players that actually had big days. It was random. - It was a spiritual win, even though you didn't actually win with the touchdowns. - Exactly. - One in spirit, which we support here on this show. Like I said, we're doing five moves to make here. So, a shorter episode here for folks, both on audio and on the YouTube audience. And there's no limitation here, right? You can go with players you wanna buy. You can go to the players you wanna sell. You can come up with others that like, oh, this waiver pickup is the best pickup of the week. Or, you know, maybe look to move this guy, but it's not a sell and a cost shop, you know, stuff like that. So, curious to see what direction you went in here. It should be a mix of all those, but I just to kind of let the audience don't case you didn't follow the show last year that it's not limited by. It must be buys, must be sells. It just moves to make every thinking about making here on a weekly basis. Let's start off with your first one, Tara. What do you got for us? - Yeah, I was partial to the drops last year, but I can't do the dramatic drops in week one. We gotta do, you know, the reasonable ones and so we'll leave those to the side. And we're just gonna do buys and sells and a little caveat there towards the end. We're gonna start off with a buy, but it's a multiple buy. It's a buy a bear, kind of like a build a bear. We're just going to buy a bear pick one because good lord, the bear's pass catchers were a mess in week one. I cannot promise you, but I find it hard to believe that our leading bear's pass catcher, rest of season is Khalif Raymond. So he had eight receptions, nine targets, 84 yards. Luther Burton had five receptions on five targets, 63 yards and a fumble. Roma Dunze, two receptions on three targets, 52 yards. You could definitely tell he was limited due to the injury then we had Colston Lovelin who literally just blocked. Well, Cole commit, caught a touch down pass. So it was just such a weird week for when we were talking all draft season. These were guys that were all very bunched up together in a range where you just within two rounds of each other, you were picking between five different bears in a wide variety of positions. So for guys that we invested in to be starters this early to put up duds was highly disappointing. But it should not be like this every single week. The offense leaned heavily on the ground game with over 200 yards for both of the running backs who looked excellent, but this was a run friendly matchup. And then we had 65 yards and two rushing touchdowns for Caleb William. So yeah, this game was just a little bit tilted. And again, a Dunze was limited due to the injury. He played roughly 50% of snaps. Lovelin ran the most routes of any bears pass catcher. It just amounted to quite literally nothing. So I think it was just one of these weird games where everything went sideways for everyone that we wanted to succeed. When we saw this last season, earlier in the season, I chalked it up and I think we all talked it up to, rookies being eased in. But perhaps this is just something where the offense under Ben Johnson likes to experiment early on depending on the matchup before we really see upside settle in. When I'm talking about which one of these guys we should buy, I think all three are reasonable. Roma Dunze is likely the easiest player to grab. He was the one that was last drafted of the group, a little bit tougher with coast and Lovelin because Lovelin, perhaps the Lovelin manager may not have a secondary option, but it's possible that maybe they paired up with a backup like Dallas Goddard. And they'd maybe be ready to make that move. So just check and see. And then obviously Luther Burton is probably a higher price tag as well. But it's just one of these situations where you go out, see what's available, and try to buy on the cheap if people are panicking. If we think of these three names, Lovelin, Dunze, and Burton as by-lose, are you interested in buying a high on Dandre Swift on Caleb Williams? Like, are you looking at this bear's offense as in general saying, yeah, they're not going to score 59 points every week. But this is going to be like a team that flirts with the record of most points, scored in a season like Ben Johnson has talked about and has a bad defense, so it's going to be a lot of shootouts. Are you interested in buying high on the bears who did have good games? Yes, but probably not on Caleb Williams because I feel like there is enough general hype and positivity around him based off last season that everyone is going to be asking for well over price. So it's no negative towards him. I think it's going to be a wonderful season. He has legitimate top five upside every single week, but it probably is going to be kind of a hefty cost. You can probably get Dandre Swift for a reasonable amount, especially considering that Kalmanangai had a strong overall game as well. So perhaps there's concerns, hey, this is committee, when it's a little bit less run-heavy Swift's weeks are going to be mediocre. So we already know that people have a lot of odd sentiments throughout the tenure of Dandre Swift's entire career. So he's probably the one who off of this big game, you could realistically buy. I think you have another buy on the list for us who are you looking at? I do. I have a buy for Drake London. This one is a really easy sell for me in terms of why we should buy it in a very critical one. You're making the sale, you're making the sale. You're not selling Drake London. Exactly. I am making the sale for you guys to buy Drake London. Drake London doesn't have a Drake London problem. Drake London just has a quarterback problem and that quarterback problem is very specific and it does not extend to Michael Pinnix. So it's a little bit different of a situation than when you look at some other teams and you might look at a wide receiver one that has a quarterback problem. You look at the backup and say, oh my god, it just might not get any better. But it's different with Atlanta because we do have the promise of Pinnix. It's crazy. You wouldn't think that we would say the promise of Pinnix, but that is the point at which we're at with him because it's a two-a-tug of a Loa and a Cooper Rush problem. With Cooper Rush, it led to turn to him as the veteran instead of risking it with Rookie Jack Strand. But Rush really didn't have a ton of preparation within this offense. I'm let alone since week, since the two-a injury happened, a little bit suddenly, so this wasn't exactly something that they had been remotely preparing for. So I'm not shocked that he had an underwhelming performance. And by no means am I saying that he's gonna turn around and be the second coming of anything spectacular. But if he does have to start, I would assume it would be a little bit better. But regarding two-a-tug of a Loa, I've been pretty transparent during draft seasons about my concerns that two-a is not the right quarterback, specifically for Drake London. He's never used a receiver like Drake London in his NFL career. He's used to guys like Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle Types. And preseason really showed us that two-a is a temporary solution. We didn't see anything positive. He is not the permanent answer. And when Michael Pinnix is ready to play, when he's fully healthy, when he's 100% ready to go, I do believe that he is destined to be the starting quarterback. And I know that people have their skepticism around Pinnix's future and upside for Atlanta as a whole. But he is specifically exactly what Drake London needs. Pinnix and London played nine games together last season. London average 19.7 fantasy points per game over that time period. That was wide receiver three overall. He was literally bested by JSN and Pukanakua. Michael Pinnix is not perfect by any means. There will be low games, of course. But nine times out of 10, 10 times out of 10, give me the quarterback that gives Drake London insane league winning upside on a week-to-week basis. I'll take a couple of subpar games where Pinnix is acting crazy to reap the benefits of the amount of volume that he pushes specifically to Drake London. The 100 plus yard games back to back to back. When he was a starter, it was just beautiful. So I still see Drake London as a good prime buy because the panic has set in. I do not think that we will get much better results with Tua. Probably see an uptake in volume in terms of what Kyle Pits will see with Tua quarterback 'cause he's a little more tight and friendly. But once we can get Michael Pinnix on the field and I do feel like we're somewhat close, we'll then see that true league winning upside unlocked for Drake London. I said when I was taping the tailgate earlier this morning with Debro and Erickson that one of my conclusions from week one is that all Falcons, other than B. John Robinson, are citable until further notice and further notice being Pinnix showing up. And the reason I say that is to say that I agree with London as a good trade target. I just would say in the meantime until Pinnix is out there, like don't be so beholden to the draft capital you spent on him and sing with Pits. Don't be beholden to whatever you give up in a trade if you do go. out and acquire these guys and buy low on them. And specifically on London, don't pay attention too much to the cost to get them. Just be patient and find other options for now. And if you don't trade, if you're holding them and you already drafted them and you're the one who's kind of feel like you're less holding the bag, just hold out until Michael Pentax is there and then go back to starting them with a bit more confidence again, specifically London trade for him, but don't start him yet until Pentax is out there is sort of my stance on him. Yeah, yeah. I mean, hopefully maybe things with Cooper rush once he gets a little bit more footing. If he does have to start a little bit more footing and things can get slightly better and we did see he was here. Yeah, it was hard to watch. Yeah, you think back to the Dallas Times and the word decent times, but the upside was was it really, but I don't know, we just saw Drew lot go out there and JSN, BJSN, but at the end of the day, we're waiting for Pentax guys. We're waiting for pictures. Give me a player that you are selling, Tara. I am selling Don Kinkade. I'm so sorry, buddy. I want to believe it's not a talent issue. I mean, he's got all the talent in the world. Don Kinkade was not a top 10 draft target for me. He was not top 12 or sorry, not even top 12 in Titan rankings for me in draft season, but he was definitely a top 12 Titan in my week one rankings. When he's on the field and when he's healthy, I expect a good game from him and I thought this was a very good matchup, so I felt super comfortable with him, have zero issues, but the health has been a repeated concern for him. We've had back-to-back seasons where he's missed four to five games and that doesn't include the ones where he played through the injury, which is cool. Glad you got out there. He tried to push through, but he was on limited snaps. It was mediocre, extremely subpar production. So given all the underwhelming Titan performances that we had in week one plus the Brock Bowers injury, there are plenty of fantasy managers that are looking at Don Kinkade, remembering this is the first round pick and they're willing to pay well to get a guy whose quarterback is Josh Allen. He's got talent. So these are all upsides. It's not a hard sell, but again, we've got the health issues and the health issues are not the only reason to sell. Josh Allen threw for over 300 yards in this game and the running was minimized. His running was minimized. James Cook's running was minimized. He had just 13 carries for 57 yards. This is not a typical weekly outcome, but it's easy to look at this with Rosie, Rose-colored glasses and say, "Okay, well, we've got the additional DJ more. We've got a change in offensive coordinator, but really it's still the vision of Joe Brady overall, and maybe this is the year where we're finally going to get this, you know, offense unlocked with massive pass volume back up to 600 attempts, but I just don't see that being the regular scenario. So on a weekly basis, I mean, this game had 67 total points score. That volume is going to come down in games where they feel they can rely more on the running backs. There's a better match-up for a James Cook. I mean, even Josh Allen didn't run significantly. So pass volume will come down. And when it comes down, you got to remember, there are a lot of bodies in here. DJ Moore, Khalil Shakir, Don Concade, and, you know, their younger pieces they want to still try to work in as well. So from that perspective, this is probably one of the peak performances we'll see from Don Concade. When he's healthy, it's always fantastic. But if you have the, if you drafted well, and you have the opportunity to start somebody else, and you can capitalize on selling Don Concade at a peak, get some hype, and get a good player back, I think that's a fine route. Where would you rank him, rest of season amongst tight ends? Because, you know, we saw a couple of these late tight ends hit this week. Dallas Goddard, a couple of touchdowns. I say, a likely a couple of touchdowns. Don Concade, a big game. Guys, that were going outside the top 10. Obviously, there was sort of a set it and forget it. Top seven or eight tight ends in draft rankings. When you look at just kind of the guys who hit late, the guys early and how they performed early, obviously, powers with the injury as well. Where does Concade fall into that ranking for your rest of season? Around tight end, 13 rest of season. And I think that, you know, depends on somewhat of what we see tonight as well. I like to see how Travis Kelsey gets out there and performs. But just a little bit lower than what we have. I know that, you know, in rest of season rankings, he's a clear top 10 option, which makes sense because, you know, you start to get that panic in, moving down of guys like Harold Fanon, Jr. So he'll shift upwards. And as that continues to grow, you can capitalize where as other people are panicking on the on the tight ends that have been failing. If you want a chance to win the ultimate symbol of fantasy glory, the fantasy football championship belt courtesy of our good friends at trophy smack the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware, then this is your moment. This massive gold plated belt is built to make a statement. It's bold, it's heavy, and it's guaranteed to turn heads in your league. Don't just win your championship, wear it to enter. All you need to do is subscribe to the fantasy pros YouTube channel right now. Drop a comment below on any of our videos. And that is, it will be announcing a winner right here on the channel. So make sure to turn on notifications. So you don't miss your chance to claim this championship belt and flex on your entire league. All right, we've got two more players here. Tara, give me another player that you are selling. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a caveat here and do a shop. We're not, we're not hard selling. We're shopping it around and we're seeing what, what the market is getting a feel for it. We are shopping around AJ Brown. So initially, you know, my, my thoughts, now granted, we've been in this like, it's been like days of us. So it's not like we've had an extended period of time. I try to figure out what we're doing, but my initial thoughts were as well. Okay, he's so talented. He is the wide receiver one. We saw Romeo Dobbs look objectively awful. So hey, you know, maybe in a strong league where you've got the ability to stash him on IR, you know, maybe he's a by-law. But then my thought process changed after analysis from Dr. Deepak Chota on our Sunday night recap show last night. I don't know if we can do that stash on IR and call it a day because he talked about the fact that we are not just dealing with the time that AJ Brown will be back, will be out. We're also dealing with a downturn in performance after he returns. It's a severe high ankle sprain. So the version of AJ Brown that we get when he actually does return, which again, we're talking about a minimum of six, six weeks. That's the expectation. Perhaps it extends on, you know, AJ Brown, he's not going to force himself back if it doesn't quite feel right. So we're talking about this extended absence. And then when he returns, he won't be operating at peak level. And it's not that he'll be unstartable from a fantasy perspective. He'll be the wider saber one, but it'll be underwhelming for the price that you paid when you were drafting him. I mean, we spent all off season explaining CD Lam's different production. It wasn't just related to George Pickens, but it was also the downturn and performance that he had from a high ankle sprain. Oh, so that raises like red flags. If we can acknowledge that for CD Lam, we might need to prepare ourselves for that with AJ Brown. So the thought process is that you start shopping and around because as I look around social media and try to get feedback, there are buyers. There are 100% buyers who are more than willing to grab him, hold him, stash him on IR and hurt hopes of reaping the benefits when he returns. You can sell, get a solid asset and call it a day, but we're shopping him around. We're not at a must sell point, unless it is truly detrimental to your roster and you can't afford it because you don't want to dramatically undersell him and take a massive hit. You know, if you want to take a little minimal hit right now, okay, but not a massive blow. Get a feel out for your league. See if someone will pay a reasonable price. Just shop it around right now. What sounds like a reasonable price to you? Like, when you talk about shopping, AJ Brown, are there names out there that you think make sense as far as like, yeah, that's fair on both sides. It's worth the risk or it's worth getting out from under AJ Brown and the rollercoaster of the injury. Like what sounds like a fair deal to you? I hate to double dip, but Drake London. I can wait for a couple of weeks of Michael Pinnix to come back versus six weeks of AJ Brown to come back plus a dip in performance. So you might not, again, you're exchanging guys that were drafted relatively close. We know they have the same upside, but arguably, I would say that Drake London might have the higher upside, particularly for the fact that again, when we've seen New England, what we saw in week one, wasn't the most effective offense in the world. We know it's going to be a tougher schedule. We know that they like to lean on the ground game as opposed to Atlanta, who while they can lean on Bijan Robinson does push a decent amount of volume and will hyper target and funnel directly to Drake London. So arguably potentially some higher upside there. So yeah, I might do that little one for one exchange there and take a couple weeks of a hit and then reap the benefits of Drake London when he gets Michael Pinnix. I like that call quite a bit. Any other moves to make this week, Tara? We're going to do one more and put your pitchforks down people. Don't be mad at me because I can already see it in the comments. Like now I can see you typing in my eyes. We're going to sell Mike Evans. Don't get mad. I love Mike Evans dearly. And I save this one for last because it doesn't require a lot of explanation like discussion terms of like, you know, other players that are involved or pass volume or quarterbacks or schedules. Like it's very straightforward. Yeah, he's a sell high because the happy reactions to his performance and how he is going to pay off at his ADP. They were very clear, very understandable. People are feeling very good and those who missed out on that good value Mike Evans are might might be feeling like, man, I really wish I could get that. So there's a good market in there for people that are willing to buy off of this game thinking that, okay, this was an entry level game. We're going to see the higher level Mike Evans. And that for sure can happen because when Mike Evans is on the field, any field, he is one of if not the best receiver out there, he's so talented. And it wasn't even a big game for him. He had six perceptions on seven targets, 48 yards, a touchdown, right? So there's more upside. he looks like a bully out there and he's just dominant. So there's no negative with Mike Evans, but you can't let one game low you into forgetting that he has dealt with repeated injury issues and back-to-back seasons. And yes, everyone has injury risk. It happens like we lose little 22 year olds for injuries out for the entire season. So like age obviously doesn't have to be the deciding factor, but we've seen this in back-to-back seasons that he's been repeatedly dealing with hamstring injuries. And when you're talking about a 33 year old receiver that keeps having these issues and can't make it through the season, he does factually have an elevated injury risk attached to him. So it's just looking around seeing if you can sell high to capitalize on people who want to take advantage of a guy who was clearly the wide receiver one for a San Francisco 49ers team that looked very excellent. And so there's positive days ahead. So you can get a really good trade value out of this for a guy that might not be available for you a month from now. - This isn't any fun tarot. - You don't want to hear this about one of the great in- - I don't want to say it. - Are you a receiver? - No, I love him. - I think it's fair. DeBro is talking a lot on one of the other shows about like, oh, if you thought Mike Evans was washed, like you sure had to eat crow this week. I'm like, I thought I thought he was washed. It's that I'm worried about getting 17 games at him. Like I don't know how to feel confident there. So he's not washed. He's on the field. - He's great. - He is the best. But can he stay on the field a full 17? I don't know if I would make that much. - I don't know that I would either. We'll go ahead and wrap things up there. Thanks everybody for checking out our five moves to make before week two. For Tara, I'm Ryan Wormley. We'll see you again next time. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. There is growing concern about a potential epidemic against Black literature, prompting a podcast series to explore why Black stories and voices are being overlooked.
  2. In a fantasy football context, Tara Roberts recommends buying Drake London due to quarterback uncertainty and the imminent return of Michael Pinnix, who offers strong chemistry with London.
  3. She advises selling Don Kinkade due to recurring injuries and declining pass volume in the game, and suggests shopping around AJ Brown due to a severe ankle sprain and expected performance dip upon return.

Summary:

The podcast opens with a reflection on the potential decline in interest in Black literature, raising questions about representation and visibility during Black Reading Month. This theme is contrasted with a fantasy football analysis from the Fantasy Pros show, where Tara Roberts outlines key strategic moves ahead of Week 2. She recommends buying Drake London, citing the temporary quarterback situation in Atlanta and the high upside when Michael Pinnix returns.

She also advises selling Don Kinkade due to injury history and diminished pass volume, while cautioning against a hard sell on AJ Brown, noting his expected drop in performance after a long injury absence. A similar caution is applied to Mike Evans, where despite an excellent performance, his injury history and age raise concerns about long-term availability. The overall message emphasizes strategic flexibility—buying on dips, selling on overvaluation, and using market reactions to capitalize on temporary trends.

These insights reflect a broader theme of navigating uncertainty in both cultural and sports contexts, where foresight and adaptability are essential to success. The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of critical thinking in decision-making, whether in literature or fantasy football.

FAQs

The concern stems from a lack of representation and engagement with Black authors and stories in mainstream culture, suggesting a societal disconnect from Black literary traditions and histories.

The main question is 'What are you reading next?' reflecting a personal and communal invitation to explore and engage with Black literature.

Drake London has strong upside when paired with Michael Pinnix, who has proven to be a reliable quarterback in past games, and his performance may improve significantly once Pinnix starts.

Don Kinkade is being sold due to recurring health issues and underwhelming performance in recent games, especially as pass volume in the offense is expected to decrease in future matchups.

AJ Brown is expected to return after a six-week injury, but his performance may dip due to a severe high ankle sprain, leading to a potential trade or sell to avoid a low-impact return.

Despite a strong performance, Mike Evans has a history of hamstring injuries and is 33 years old, increasing his injury risk, making a sell-high move prudent to capitalize on current market value.

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