49ers-Rams Takeaways and Week 1 Predictions!

Welcome to the Ringer NFL show. I'm your host, Shield Kapadia, the San Francisco 49 years with a big time win over the Los Angeles Rams in Australia. We're going to talk about that game because Tom Pelicero was there. He probably saw him during the Netflix broadcast. He's going to talk about his experience. We're going to talk about our takeaways from that game with Tom and Billy Gale. And then we're going to welcome in Austin Gale. We're going to talk about this Sunday slate in week one. What we're thinking about some of these games. Maybe some predictions. Maybe predicting some headlines. We're going to read next week. So we'll do that. And then we will finish the episode with the Ringer 107. That's right. It's back and we will have our picks at the end of the show. All right. Let's take a break. We'll come right back with Tom and Billy. The Ringer NFL show is presented by Fandall. 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It was, honestly, it was a total blast the entire day just being in that stadium where you got a hundred thousand people whether they're singing along to that song that everyone seemed to know by the Jonas Brothers at halftime or singing along to the national anthem. And honestly, like being fired up like there was real energy in the stadium and everyone was in their seats well before kickoff. It was just a really unique experience. Everything went off without a hitch. The city did great with it. The league did great with it. And obviously the 49ers did great with it as well. Yeah, Billy. I mean, we got to give it up for our guy. Tom, was that I was going to ask, we'll get to the game. But I have to ask you, was that the first time you've done sideline reporting? Because I was trying to remember I should probably know this. Have you done that before? Was this your debut? I have done it before. I was on the call actually for the Vikings Colts largest comeback in NFL history from 33, nothing down. I was on the sideline for that one. And I've done, you know, Senior Bowl and things like that. Definitely not international. Definitely not with quite this this audience level. So I'm just glad I didn't fall flat on my face. It was it was a ton of fun. I mean, people with Netflix have just been sensational with everything, you know, just the way everything is put together. And yeah, I mean, it was just it was cool. It was really cool being a being a part of this thing. Billy, our guy was just, I mean, he looked like a natural. He looked like he was born to do this. He's getting the information to us quickly. He's now, you know, using too many words. He's giving us, he's kind of like giving us little nuggets on Miles Garrett, where I'm like, wait, I didn't hear that nugget on Miles Garrett until the broadcast. He's pounding meat pies at the end. I mean, what a performance. How was the meat pie, by the way, Tom? It was very messy. I saw it got all over your papers too. Thank goodness it was after the game. Probably didn't need those anymore. Well, you know, the strategy there was, first of all, I didn't plan to do it, but I watched the post game ceremony where they gave him the kangaroo coats. And then like, they offered up the meat pies. And of course, Nick boosters going like, no, but like Nick is a very like, he eats like one thing all the time. Like he doesn't, he doesn't venture out like Brock Fred's like, come on, like these are good guys. Like just take, take the bite. And then so they leave. And though I have to come in and do a news hit. It's all injuries. So it's like, you know, just here comes Tom to be a total downer on a fun day. I literally got on when I did because the Jonas Brothers weren't quite ready to join the other set. So it's like, Tom, you have to be ready right now. It's like I took to the injuries, but like the meat pies are just sitting there in front of me. And I'm like, well, the cat let an entire plate of this go to waste. And so I did have that thought. And basically, I was like, all right, I don't want to like get it, you know, get it everywhere. So like, I'm just going to like lean back. And I'm like, no, then I'm going to get it on my shoes on the suit. So it's that I lean forward onto the desk, which is where you saw that giant squirt of whatever that was come outside. I want to take it to take the first bite. Yes, it did get all over the desk, which, you know, hopefully will be cleaned by next year. I did get all over the notebook. I threw that legal pad away, but are that I emerged unscathed? No dry cleaning necessary. I was surprised at how watery it was. It's gravy is Nick Foles corrected me. That's gravy. Yeah. Yes. And you're, you know, I didn't have the ketchup. I saw a bunch of Aussies saying that to me, you have to have it with ketchup. Mike, there was no ketchup. There was a bunch of meat pies. I took a couple bites for the people. I just hope everybody enjoyed it. I'll tell you what, I don't know if you noticed this or if you heard it on the thing, but the Jonas Brothers were then on the set and they were jealous that they didn't get any meat pies. So you officially made the Joe Bro's jealous of you. I almost ran over one of them on my way off the field. So I was like, walking out like, I finished my hit. They were still up on the set. Well, then I guess they got down there. I wasn't paying attention. I literally almost ran smack into a Joe Bro, which, you know, I think I think here, if you bump into one, it's like life in person. So I'm very glad that I, I avoided. I avoided that. Are they there you go? Or was that like an Australian anthem? Because people like really into that song they were singing. I literally, I asked my, because I knew the one, the one, the one I can't even describe the song. But like the one song that everybody knows, like I knew that one. And then they went to this other one in the whole crowd singing. I turned to one of our, like our audio guys. I'm like, how does everyone know this? He goes, have you heard of this singer here? I'm like, no, he's like, oh, he's very famous. It's his song. I'm like, oh, okay. So they did a cover for the, for the audience, which was like, I mean, great, great work. And again, like that and like the sing along with the national anthem, like those were just, those are those unforgettable moments. They're just like, they're, they're so unique to this thing. And you know, for an NFL that, as we discuss the other day, wants to continue to branch in these markets with flag and with the Olympics coming here in 2032. I don't know for sure, but let's just say I'd be surprised if they are not back. All right. There you go. Listen, he didn't run over a Jonas brother. He didn't get any of the meat pie on his suit. He still got the suit on. So every, he escapes unscathed from his trip to Australia. This game we got to get to because whether it's fair or not, I know what the conversation is going to be around this game and what the conversation already has been around this game. And it's the topic we discussed in these shows preparing for this game. And that was the travel and the two different approaches and whether it actually affected the play on the field. Now the 49ers blow the Rams out. I don't think anyone thought this was going to be the result where the Rams lose by 20 points. Their worst loss since week two of the 2024 season. They were not good. Offensively Matthew Stafford had a very uncharacteristic game. So Tom, you were, you know, embedded with that Rams team. And it's probably not fair to just jump to the conclusion that the reason they looked like that was because of their approach to the travel. But at the same time, this was a question going into the game. So how do we kind of digest what impact that had if there's really any way to know it? It's so hard to say because also week one's weird. There's so much like you don't totally know schematically what people are going to do. There's a huge feeling out process in the first five, 10, 15 plays. And then there's adjustments within the game that you can see is based on, okay, they're showing us this. It may not have been on tape last year. Hey, we have a new team. And we're trying to do something that's not working. And perfect example was the 49ers who we came out of halftime and they were playing back the interview with McVeigh where I'm saying, hey, you kept McCaffrey in check. And then they immediately run the ball twice, dead up the gut, which for the 49ers, you normally outside zone, they really stretch you horizontally. They're just like, we're going to run down hill. So after that, I don't specifically know what the schematic change was. But I was watching on the on the sideline after that. And Miles Garrett's over there, Joe Kaniglio going through like on the iPad. And then, you know, the defensive line coach, Jeff Smith is over there, like talking to the defensive lineman, like they're all talking about, there was some kind of a tweak that was made that threw them off on that initial series. And it just felt like it was a 10/7 game in halftime, right? If I remember that correctly, it wasn't like they were getting blown out, but like that drive just seemed like such a punch in the gut coming out of the half that everything kind of, it just felt like then, you know, the tables turned. Is that about the travel? Is that about you ran out of gas? I talked to it. I said this on the broadcast, like I talked to 12, 15 different coaches and players. Everyone on the Rams was just like, no, feel great. Like we're still on LA time. This is, you know, kickoff. It's like 5/30 kick, like this is totally normal for us. They didn't play great. And there were some things just rhythmically in the passing game. Stafford, you know, whether he's missing throws he would normally make or whether it's just not quite in sync with his receivers. They were just, it just never felt like they found their footing, but I thought that the first half was pretty even. I know what the final score is. The first half, there was some back and forth. The Rams get the huge interception. You know, that was a big play for them defensively. They were, they were pretty good overall in that half. They also, they had some injuries. We didn't get a chance to talk about him much, but Cam Curle, I think it was on the second series, heard his ankle. And then he, you know, he did come back in like the fourth quarter, but like he was out for a while. Then Cam Kitchens got banged up. Lamman went out late. But like, just, and then Miles Garrett was just, he didn't look like Miles Garrett. Not to the same degree. And he had been very upfront with us about the fact that he called it lower leg stuff, not a knee, but like this lower leg stuff. It's like he's got pain. And I pressed him on, I talked to him again before, before the game began. And it was just, yeah, like he's not hiding behind it. Like he is, he's dealing with something here, but it's also the guy that practiced in training camp. When you don't have your legs under you, I mean, I don't know. I can't tell you how much sleep he got on the plane. I do know this. If you don't play, or if you don't practice for all the training, Cam, unless you're Nick Bosa, who apparently just never needs training camp, whether he's holding out or he's hurt or he's got a contract thing, whatever it is, he just shows up and immediately looks like Nick Bosa again. He was fantastic in the game. But you know, Miles just looked like a guy. He was in and out. He was taking multiple snaps off at a time, just kind of shuffling it out. They clearly wanted to manage it. He just looked like he was out of gas. I, again, I can't say it is that the travel. I understood the, the science behind it. Why they did it. It's worked for him. Sean McFae always travels in late. It just, they just didn't execute today, you know, really not at a high enough level on defense in the second half. And really the offense, the entire game just was a little bit off. What do you think, Billy? You were very invested in this storyline. Are you just ready to just draw conclusions here or no? No, I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to say that it was just a travel. And I think that Clay Matthews on the broadcast did a good job too of saying like, hey, to say this is a hundred percent of the travel is discrediting what the 49ers did. And to what Tom was saying too, like, it was close at halftime. And we were a goal line stand away from it being a three point game late in the third. And they had two opportunities to get in there. And somehow didn't. I mean, part of that could have been play calling on why is it? Why do you have Matthew Stafford doing a QB sneak up the middle when you need a yard? And then, you know, he didn't get in there. Play before Puke barely didn't get in there. They turned them all over. Then they go to 99 yard drive to score again. So it wasn't as lopsided, I guess, at parts towards the end of the game, it seemed to get away from them. And it seemed like, you know, even the ramps are out of the starting quarterbacks. So they said, you know, we still have a drive here, but we're not going to come back. Like, we'll just, you know, call this a game and we'll go on to the next one. But for three quarters, more or less, it was pretty close. It was closer than score indicated. Yeah, that's good. That was a turning point. As the season goes on to like, I mean, the Stafford thing, I'm sure it'll get debated. We were talking about it. I was with Fools and Clay in the car back about like, you know, that one of them asked me, just like, were you surprised? And it's like, it's 20 point game. There's three minutes left. Yes, we've seen Matthew Stafford do crazy stuff. And he says, many, you know, final minute comebacks as anybody, but also what would the feedback of bid if he gets his ankle rolled up and is out for a month? It's just those are really tough. This isn't me. Shoot Nate Lamman's in the game late. He's a really important player. I think the leading tackleer on that team, he hurt his shoulder. I mean, he was in some pain when he went into the medical tent. And so imagine then, you know, if that Stafford, it's just, you know, miles, they kind of limited late, they pulled Stafford out of the game. I understand that part of it. You know, they're, they got a long break now. They don't play again until a week from Monday. And that's a home game against the Giants. So yeah, it's, you know, I think we talked about this a few weeks ago where it was like, if the Rams lose this game, everyone's going to flip out because they've been built up and put on such a pedestal that anything less than just they win every game and they crush people was going to seem like a disappointment. I, I got a pretty good feeling that Sean McVale have those guys ready to go in whatever it is 10 11 days here. And they'll, they'll get this thing moving. You have to win those division home games. So Tom, you know, I'm forward to those are. Yeah. The, there were a lot of 49ers fans. That's crazy. But yeah, I mean, they were a lot of my flight, which I, I chalked up to when I flew from San Francisco. But they, I mean, they definitely, you could hear the 49ers fans. I mean, there's, there's no doubt about it. They travel really well. They always do. And they, they traveled pretty well here. And I think that they probably had foreign assets, some extra fans in Melbourne from showing up early and, and being around for the week. The Rams did a bunch of stuff. They did activations and other things around town. I mean, no way, discrediting them. But yeah, I mean, I, you know, I talked to people just around town who like, they kind of liked that the 49ers came in early. So I think it was a lot of real 49ers fans cheering. But maybe they had a few extra Aussies on their side. And to your point, Billy, I mean, this was a Kyle Shanahan, like master class. I still have my fastball. Don't forget about us. The, you know, we've talked about, I was thinking about this. We've talked so much about, Hey, are the Seahawks being disrespected there, the defending Super Bowl champs. But they were still like second in Super Bowl games, you know, going into the season. Rams obviously got all the offseason hype. Maybe the 49ers were that to you. You know, I know I didn't pick them to make the playoffs. And they come into this game and they had such a good plan. Even though Miles Garrett had the injury, they had such a good plan to come in and be like, he's not wrecking the game here. We're going to throw screens. We're going to have misdirection. We're going to chip him. We're going to every that time they would show a replay. They were doing something different to Miles Garrett in this football game to the point where he's not even in the box score. He didn't have a tackle. He didn't have a quarterback hit. He didn't have a sack. And the 49ers to Tom's point in the second half. They come out. They start running the ball with Christian McCaffrey. Brock Pertie had the drive. Well, after the Matthew Stafford failed quarterback sneak for the 49ers to then go 99 yards against a defense that traded from Miles Garrett, Trent McDelphy, signed jail in Watson. Was a pretty good defense. Last year, I thought Brock Pertie on that drive was fantastic. His scrambling, his decisiveness, his decision-making, his accuracy, everything. So this was a terrific offensive performance for the 49ers. They're not just offensive for him. Morish comes in there as their defensive coordinator. And they make the Rams look like an offense that we hadn't seen anyone really make the Rams look like that all of last year. So Tom, there's no doubt this is a terrific win for the 49ers that makes me rethink a little bit about where they're placed in the NFC here. Brock Pertie was fantastic. That little shimmy that he had after the long stramble. He's got some stuff to him. We sat down with him too in the 49ers production meetings and he talked a lot about wanting to get back to what he was doing his rookie year and being able just the way to use his eyes and his feet and feeling things. And he felt like in some ways he kind of got a little bit away from that. So the word he used was coachable. He wants to be coachable, which is not something that you often hear players say. And I don't think that's because he was disregarding the advice he was getting. But I think it means he kind of regrounded himself a little bit in this offseason and really thought through what he wants to be. He does a lot of different types of training to try to have himself in his body in the right place to be. He was really, really good in this game. Kittle has that early drop and that could have been one of those, okay, this is going to be one of those days. They just came right back. He went back to Kittle like two plays later. Stribbling goes down. He just keeps distributing the football. And anytime the C-Mac gets going, that to me was the story in the first half was as much as the Rams were struggling offensively, they hadn't let McCaffrey take over when he got some on those two runs right up the middle. It just felt like from that point forward, the Rams were on skates a little bit trying to search for answers and they just didn't have them. Well, it was also nice to see contributions from Mike Evans, Debo Samuel. He didn't know exactly how they were going to fit in. Mike Evans was like the three, the three third down catches early. It was incredible. This is why you go and get that guy just immediately. Yeah. No doubt about it. He looked fantastic from the, I looked at the box score afterwards and I'm like, that's all he had. I think it's six for 49 or something. I'm like, that was the most impactful six for 49 I've ever seen because yeah, I think it's the touchdown. I remember the other two, but yeah, it was all like tone setter type stuff. They'd never had a receiver like that. There's not many guys built like Mike and he looked like vintage Mike Evans today. And his chemistry with Purdy in week one is in prep because that touchdown is just like Purdy's got to just put that in spot where he can go up and get it and he's just winning a contested catch and that was a beautifully place pass. And he of course goes up and wins it there. So it was a little bit, little kegly nailed it, little kegly nailed that one to where he goes. He doesn't run much for a route. He just got to like, this is a play where it's just like it's it's backyard or like basketball. It's just like, I'm going to go get it. Just put it up there. And that's something that they've really been coaching Purdy to do, which is like in their offense that's so like timing and progression based. It's like a lot of times. Okay. He come off if the X is the first read. All right. It's covered. Go to the two in the three. And one thing they've been telling Brock is like dude hang with one a little longer. It's Mike Evans. He's going to win some of these. And those third downs were great examples of it. There were a couple of those that were contested catches. But that's why Mike's going to be a Hall of Famer. He's just if you have him one on one. He's just, he knows how to use his body. He's so big, so physical. You know, he was again out of the gate that that really got him going They only kicked a field go on that drive, but Mike basically singlehandedly kept them moving down the field. Yeah. That's true, Billy. It could have been even worse. I mean, they were at what the two yard line, if they square a touchdown there, this margin is even bigger. And you mentioned Debo Samuel, kind of just like a forgotten addition, and, you know, he's just playing for them and the touchdown to him. We're pretty now has to get off the initial read and buys a little bit of time and they improvise and there he is in the end zone on a touchdown and also coming out of halftime. He had the big return before those McCaffrey runs. I mean, they're starting what at midfield that possession. So yeah, all of a sudden, Debo Samuel back in our lives looking like it was three years ago before he left the 49ers and he's making an impact for them as well. All right, Billy, what did I forget? What else do we have to ask Tom before we can let him? He's already worked like a full day. Yeah. Do we have any more questions here for what? What did you do? Do you accomplish everything you wanted? Did you miss anything that you wanted to see? You saw a little bit of time left. You're going to see any sights that you get souvenirs for the kids. You're going to take back one of those Kangaroo jackets, anything like that? I have a, I do not get a Kangaroo jacket. I do have an alert on my phone to make sure I find some things to bring back to the kids. Right now, I'm mainly concerned that I didn't realize until I came on, looked at myself up close that I got sunburned today. So I think the hunt for Allo is going to be a big part of my little Friday afternoon here. Oh, no. I didn't even notice that, Billy. I thought he looked good. There's sunglasses on the second half and you can see right there that I got the red on the nose and the red on the cheeks. It was, it was a beautiful day. It was cold this morning. I was like, I'm a, did I misjudge what I was wearing? No. By the second half, it was, it was like just absolute perfect, perfect weather out there. Fantastic. All right. Now I do want you to just finish with this because you had some Newsy items there at the end in your report, which I took note of, which we got in just in case anyone they shouldn't have, but in case they turned off the Netflix broadcast a little bit early, you had some updates on Sam Darnelt and AJ Brown. What are you? What's Tom hearing? Is that the, is that what it's, what's Tom hearing on Sam Darnelt and AJ Brown before we say goodbye? So Sam Darnelt spent the night in the hospital because that hip injury that he suffered. The initial fear was that it was a hip socket fracture, which that is a major injury. That would be bad. So Mike McDonald went to the podium and said, hey, we just got great news or good news. That's what he was referring to was there was not a hip socket fracture. He went through a battery of tests. My understanding is he has an unusual muscle strain in his hip area and everybody is familiar with those injuries knows like the groin and the hip and the glue, like they're all interconnected. He's got something that's a little bit different. He's going to continue to seek opinions. The good news is number one, I've been told, as of now, there's no consideration of putting him on IR. Number two, it was not a major injury. And number three, it's really going to be guided. Again, pending the additional medical advice by how Sam Darnelt's feeling. If he continues to progress, you know, I don't think he's going to play this week. It's, you know, most likely going to be drewlocked and that started against Arizona. But if he progresses, like he's got a chance to get back in the not too distant future. So that was relief for Seattle. With AJ Brown, you know, we all saw it and I think based on any time that a guy grabs that part of his leg, you're like, okay, it's a high ankle sprain. Underwent tests, the belief is it's a high ankle sprain. I was told there's nothing broken. It's nothing super long term. But, you know, high ankle sprains are generally four to six weeks. We've seen people beat that timeline. There's some that are more severe than others. We'll see where AJ Brown falls in. He's a pretty tough guy. But, you know, in the short term, they're going to have to adjust in terms of, you know, what they're doing with that receiver group coming off of a, you know, pretty rough first performance against the COX. Wild opening game with a couple key injuries that certainly could impact the season for those two teams, two teams that obviously have super bowl aspirations. So we'll continue to keep an eye on that. All right, Billy. I think we let Tom go here. We'll come back with Austin Gale. We'll talk about the Sunday games, the Monday night game. We'll do the ringer 107 at the end of this. And Tom, we will see you on Monday to recap week one around the NFL. Safe travels back, my friend. Appreciate it. All right, we'll be right back on the ringer NFL show. The ringer NFL show is brought to you by Fandall. You know how NFL Sundays go? You start with the early games, roll right into the late slate. And before you know it, Sunday night football is kicking off. Well, Fandall has something for you every step of the way with the Sunday spectacular. We're talking rewards throughout the day from the first games kicking off all the way through Sunday night. We're going to talk about some of our favorite bets on this show. So wherever the NFL Sunday takes you, keep an eye on the Fandall app to see what's waiting for you. It's a full day of football with more ways to get rewarded along the way. 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I think that the stakes, the pressure on the best teams and like the on paper rams being a plus 500 team win the Super Bowl, like the expectations are everywhere. I think this season is going to be incredible and teams are going to be looking for archmaning by Halloween. Like, there's just going to be endless. It's just going to be endless. Billy, it looked like you were about to ask Austin to rank his seasons, but I don't, I don't think we're going to do that. We're going to look at his son, I was going to ask him why he was so excited, but he touched on it. Honestly, I need more Austin's in my life. Like, I need this kind of positivity and excitement headed into things around me because I feel like the older we get, she'll you and I, the more jaded everyone becomes and the more it's like, yeah, football, but like, man, it's going to be a long day and, you know, we're already starting with a Wednesday game and a Thursday game that we have a Sunday and a Monday. When does it end? What week are we by? You know, but Austin's here to kind of get us all put up stuff. He's here for the enthusiasm. Yeah. Exactly. Right. He's getting us pumped up and that's what we're going to do. Here's the exercise. Now, I always like to see, you know, who has been able to follow the instructions for the exercise, who has tweaks the exercise, how this is going to go. Now, the exercise was supposed to be this, okay, predict week one headlines. So in other words, you're logging on to your favorite website, the wringer.com or another website on Monday, maybe someone sending you a link. This is what you're going to see. These are the headlines. You're going to read. It's a way to predict what we think is going to happen on Sunday. And if you want to go Monday night, you can do that as well. So that's the exercise. Billy, did you follow the instructions? Surprisingly, I did follow the instructions. And I think I added to the assignment as well, not for extra credit, just because I wanted to have some fun, you know, Austin, we're starting with you. Give us a headline. We're going to read next week after the first full Sunday/ Monday of the NFL season. What do you got? I'm calling them the on-paper bangles. The on-paper bangles look worse, again, off-paper. I think that the bucks are a live dog. I think Bill said this on Guess the Lines. I think the defense is good. I think Bowls is good. This is an interesting like coach hot seat game, right? I think there's some who would say Todd Bowles, you know, coaching for his job this season, Alice Walks, Liam Cohen Walks, this guy needs to find a new OC. I think that I actually would argue there's more pressure and more fire under the seat for Zach Taylor, even though, you know, some people she'll included thinks the bangles are going to walk to Super Bowl that they haven't been to since 2021. I think that the bangles are going to struggle against this bucks team. Maybe they win. Maybe they win. They're favored by three and a half. I hope they do. They're going to struggle against this bucks team and they're going to look like shit out of the gate like they have the last however long and we're going to be like, oh man, what's going on? Why aren't the bangles as good as everyone says they are in August? And I think maybe they win this game, maybe they come good out of the gate. Obviously have all the talent. There's a reason, you know, they're the price where they are in the market. But I honestly think like no one loves to talk about the bangles more in September or in August or early September. But then when we get to the games, everyone's like, what's happening? Why isn't not working? And like, there's common denominators here and it's Zach Taylor. I mean, Billy, you said he's positive and he just comes in and he just rips my Super Bowl team. He said, this is going to be ugly from the start. You have them in the Super Bowl. Yeah, you just said that, didn't you? Yeah, I didn't know you had them in the Super Bowl. I thought you had them playing with you this year and like you're like talking them up again. They're going to the Super Bowl for you. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Super Bowl. Okay. Wow. But I actually don't disagree with you in this spot. But because I also like the box a lot, these are two teams that I like a lot. I think the bucks are underrated from a talent perspective. And I do look at this and I'm like, ooh, the bucks are coming in. Kind of healthy. Three and a half point favorites for the Bengals. I'm like, that seems a little, little, little bit high. Billy, I'm not backing down. I'm sticking with my Bengals, but you're not. every team needs to win week one or blow a team out in week one. I just want Joe burrow. I don't want to see any reports about walking boots or crutches or looking at his shoulder. I don't want to see any reports like that about Joe burrow. And even if they lose this game 35 to three and they go in one, I'll be like, it was a weird week one game. I still feel good about it. So I had a headline for this game as well. Would you like to headline for this game? Oh, yeah. I love this because we don't share them beforehand. So this is good synergy. So here's the thing. I took it more literally and actually wrote a headline as though I was writing for a newspaper or a New York post type thing. So I wrote a headline for each game. Ready? So here's how this here's how this goes. Ready? Cha-ching Sinati. Fresh off signing his new contract extension. Baker Mayfield in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers outlast the media darling Cincinnati Bengals in the game of the day. Game of the day. You're including the day. Yeah. The big. What is that? Cha-ching Sinati. Where'd you steal? Who's running a game of the day in 2020? What's going like this? Johnny man's out to Cha-ching Sinati. It's Cha-ching Sinati. Even though Baker Mayfield plays for Tampa Bay. Yeah, because it's not to be a Tampa Bay thing. No, because the game's in Sinati. So Cha-ching Sinati. And then the picture is him like this. Yeah, like celebrating like Johnny man's out. And then all of the other stuff is like getting progressively like smaller as you go down and you kind of get the story of the game. You think Buccaneers are going to win too. I do. Yeah, they're going to outlast the Bengals in Sinati in the game of the day. So you think shoot out or something. That is fun though. Baker Mayfield Joe Burrow. That could actually be a very fun game. They're just going to be slinging it at the end of that game. That ball is going to be flying all over the field, back and forth. It feels like a game of the day. I do think it will be the game of the day. Austin, you have the bagels in the playoffs or no? Or you think they're not going to make a playoffs? I just did my final predictions. You didn't prep me for this. But give me one second. Let me find it. I'll tell you that I have my heart. I could name. I'm walking down the streets and I could tell you who my third wild card team is. Oh, I apologize to that. Yeah, I have the bangles missing the playoffs. What? Missing the playoffs. Yeah. Okay. And I have to see what's waiting that division. Oh, all right. Well, maybe we'll get to them here on a few Steelers winning the division. Wow. Okay. All right. So bangles box fun game Sunday afternoon, bangles three and a half point favorites. These guys thinks that think the bucks are going to win outright. I'm going to say bangles win. But if I had to pick that game, I would take the points for Tampa because I do like Tampa. All right. You guys both give me a headline from that one. I'm going to go to my headline here. Kyler cooks Murray Vikings laid up hackers defense. How do I like that? Wow. And let's see see what you're saying again. Can I get it again, please? Can I get another read? Kyler cooks Murray comma Vikings laid up Packers defense. And you know what? I want for my photo. I want Jonathan Gannon like on the sideline or the booth just looking real sad. Because he doesn't have Michael Parsons and that Packers defense. I mean, go look at that freaking depth chart. Who are the players on that Packers defense that are going to lead them to competency this season? Because I don't see a lot of them. They've got injuries on the defensive line. Gannon, I think, will coach to the level of his talent. So I think Parsons will come back and all of a sudden, they'll obviously be better. I don't think he's a more with less coach. I don't think he can just take some group of, you know, Ragtag players and be like, oh, don't worry. I'm going to scheme this up. And this is going to look great. I think Kyler Murray is going to get off to a good start here. And one of the big stories in the NFL next week, Austin is going to be, huh? Have the Vikings maybe found something here with their new quarterback? So good start for you, right? Is a win. It's a win. Their favorite by one and a half at home. It's a win. But also is it, is it two tugs? Is it 200 plus yards? Is it running? What is success? What does Kyler looking good in KOC's offense look like, right? Is it different than what it was before when we've seen the peaks and then obviously the valleys? I always think about that clip against the Raiders on that two-point conversion where he scrambles like 150 yards. What do you think good Kyler? What does good Kyler look like with KOC? I don't think he has to put this isn't a situation where he has to put the team on his back. This is why I'm actually bullish on the Vikings because it's kind of like you don't have to do everything here. You've got good wide receivers. I think the offensive line is going to be pretty good. The coach will say he's got to prove himself. I think this year that he's a good offensive coach. And then I think the defense is going to be pretty good although in this match up, certainly, I guess Jordan love it and Matt LaFlora. I'm not saying they're going to totally shut down the Packer's offense. But yeah, I mean, numbers wise, I think it's something, you know, if he throws for 212 yards and two touchdowns and, you know, doesn't have that costly turnover and does take a bunch of sacks, like that to me is kind of good enough and that type of stat line can lead this Vikings team to a lot of wins. Do you have more faith in, let's say, and maybe not a fair way of putting it? But you have more faith in Kyler's unfulfilled potential than you do in KOC's role as an offensive mind here because I feel like KOC has shown that he can have these quarterback reclamation projects. I just wonder if he's run out of pixie dust on some of these, you know, like how many definitely think KOC is is closer to, I mean, I've been calling him Cliff O'Connell, like Cliff Kingsbury, like Cliff Kingsbury got a long way for who he knew and what he looked like. And Kevin O'Connell is pretty hot, right? The ringer fantasy football guys are going to do ranking the hottest head coaches in the NFL. I'd argue Kevin O'Connell is probably a lot for the top six. And I think that's a piece of it, right? A lot for the top six, who else do we have? Because he missed the top five. I mean, I think, I think Demiko has to be in there. It's hard to say, right? I don't know. I think I have to do it. I don't want to reveal it also. It's not going to come out until next summer. Yeah. We can't steal the other pot. I mean, Billy, we can't steal the other pot. But I did catch that too. That it was very specific top six, not top five. And listen, Demiko Ryan's good-looking man. I think we can all say that with certainty. All right. So I like the Vikings here. Billy, what do you think here? You have your hand on? Yeah. One thing that kind of makes me sad. And I'm probably in the minority on this. And I feel like everyone in Minnesota and Green Bay will probably hate me and disagree with me strongly on this. But I kind of miss when this felt like a bigger game. When the Packers Vikings felt like a rivalry game that you had to watch, where I was like, let me sit down, let me mark my calendar Vikings. Packers, like that's going to be a great game that I want to see. And we're kind of just getting at week one middle of the day. And I feel like that rivalry isn't what it used to be outside of those two cities. I don't know. I think it could be those. I think the NFC North games are going to be pretty spicy this year. Really? You're looking forward to it? I'm looking forward to it. What does rivalry mean to you, Gil? What is like, what is a loud rivalry to you? What do you think the best rivalry in the NFL dollars? It's a good question. I mean, I feel like it's something that I feel like I can't miss. Like, I need to go out of my way to watch that game. I'm not saying they're not rivals. I'm just saying, it doesn't feel like a must miss or must must. They can't miss game anymore for me. See, this is where I just can't relate. Every game is must. Well, I know. It's just the NFL. Like there's only 16 games for every team or 17. Sorry, there's 17 games for every team. Like I you have to watch everyone. C.O.X. Rams is probably the best one right now. I would say, right? I think Steelers, I think Steelers Ravens, Steelers Bambles, Steelers, Steelers. The Steelers feel like the last team, and maybe the Cowboys that actually still remember that it is a rivalry. All right. Next headline, Austin, you're off. What do you got? Okay. My notes for this were just the text I sent to Arjuna, and I did send headlines. So my first headline was on paper, bangles look worse off paper. This next one, because sometimes I've done this in the past where a lot of the headlines end up kind of predicting who's going to win. And even with the bangles one, I think the bangles can win, but still look bad in this game, right? And look like not the bangles that Steelers thinks they're going to go to the Super Bowl. For this one, I have the insert team Texans or Bill's suck, because I think and Bill has hit this on his pod too. Because whoever loses this game, I think they're going to say they suck now. So with the bills, how the hell did you lose this game? Sean McDermott was right. We need to take the ping-pong table out. This cloak is too loose, Buffalo needs to correct itself. We need to find a way to win. If the Texans lose this one, Strav might be under a bus, because both teams think they're going to win the Super Bowl this year. And we love overreactions coming out of week one. This game, someone's going to lose. And whoever loses, it's going to be right for the taking for people to be like, oh, now this team sucks, because Sean McDermott's gone. Or now this team sucks because Strav can't figure it out. And that's why they didn't pay him. I think that we have to be careful with this game because someone's going to lose it. And I think we can't rush either side, right? I think Buffalo could look slow out of the gate because Joe Brady is a new head coach. Everyone's like, it's all the same. It's all the same. No, it's not. Ask any player. You look at any of the bills media or bills reports coming out of camp that the vibe is completely different, right? McDermott's not bringing up, you know, the Taliban anymore, right? It's more of a buzz. It's more of a party. And I think that party could lead to sloppiness. Who knows? Maybe not out of the gate, but Buffalo has a lot of newness, even if Joe Brady was the offensive coordinator last year. And with Houston, the problem, we already know. CD Strav may be played the worst games of his life. Last last time we saw him, we need to see something different against Buffalo. If we don't, we're going to be rushing, you know, with with pitchforks to say the Texans are cook. And that's why they shouldn't have paid Strav. This is arguably the probably the best game of Sunday because of what - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know if it's game of the day my Monday on Monday. It won't be headed into the weekend You could say this this is looking like the game of the day once the headlines come out We'll find out it was done. Yeah, cuz I'm getting up to it. And we'll find out that blank sucks All right, which team which team is it gonna be because I have one for this As well that's it because I'm looking forward to this game So I now mind this is a boring headline, but I'm gonna land the plan eventually so stick with me So the boring headline is rough start for Joe Brady as Bill's drop open so I was thinking about Joe Brady like Austin was just mentioning it is a different time And then I go to ESPN.com and I was looking at their bills coverage And I saw this story from Elena Getsonberg does a very good job Covering the bills and Billy you're gonna like this because anytime Austin there is a story about how much kind of a caffeine addiction for a head coach or sleeping or whatever we get very intrigued and Joe Brady Says sleep versus sleep is overrated. Then he says no, it's not overrated. It's just you know It might be important, but he can convince his brain that he can operate without it And it says during seasons past Brady would sleep no more than three or four hours a night And he just kind of binges caffeine. Now he wanted to make it very clear here Quote not living on caffeine yet When she interviewed him this was a morning in June and he was on his second Gatorade fast twitch energy drink. What of the day? What and later? He's gonna have a little Cafe cone lecce We'll get that you liver. He will get that delivered if he can find it on one of his favorite apps there Wow, I have some concerns about Joe Brady I know NFL coaches are a different breed. It's not just the caffeine thing But I was thinking about this and it's like every year we make the mistake of like offensive coordinator Moves to head coach shop. Oh, they're gonna be able to do it And it's just a very different job. I know nothing about his ability to manage time out and not waste them I know nothing about his ability to decide Do I kick a field goal? Do I punt? Do I go for it on fourth down about when to throw the replay challenge? And so that's already in my head and then I'm reading the story the guy's gonna be so sleep deprived here But by the time he gets to game time kick off on Sunday I worry that he might not have the goods right away and there might be more of a learning curve Especially when you consider the opponent here I mean throw out everything I said just now and just think of the bill's offensive performance Against a great Texans defense that has really shut them down in back-to-back years I like the bills a lot. I think the bills are gonna go 12 and 5 and win the AFC East But I think they could struggle here coming out of the game. Isn't it wild? I look I love football shield You love football awesome. We know you love football more than anyone I like football. Yeah, you don't love football. Well, I love his you know, I don't throw around life You might throw around love Willie Nill. You deserve what you don't look football You know, I like football. Yeah, I like that. That's a like go too deep here But like how many things do you love? No, skip skip I skip. He doesn't like football. What the hell? Who cares? Also, he's sad, but actually this is a true story You know, I got hired by the ring and before I actually like started they were having like a brainstorm meeting at their offices You know in LN like you want to just come down for this because the season's coming out and I sat in there and I heard all my colleagues talk about football and I thought Wait, do I actually even like football these guys are thinking with such enthusiasm? So, you know, I think I do like it, but I mean Austin is at another level I'm not gonna lie and say I'm at the same level as Austin Billy You have to compare did you love football without comparing to me? I'm a sicko. I'm a freak and also like I can't even get into this. You're having a football life crisis and we're playing two games in here. We're two games in Did you ever feel that way like is this age like you like the love has kind of like died out a little bit? I'm older you get you know Austin futures bleed for you my friends How long before you told your wife you loved her who said it first you're your wife I don't believe it was me Oh, wow did you reciprocate those like I love you. I'm reciprocated. Yeah, that's a good move. I actually can't remember when that was all right Well, the larger the larger point was we all minus you shield. We love football, right? But it's incredible how these coaches and we just accept that it's like yeah, that's normal Have all convinced themselves that like all this pseudoscience stuff like I don't need to drink water I can just drink Gatorade fast switch energy drink all day long and sleep five minutes And I'll be perfectly fine because I love football. It's like no guys like we're worried about your long-term healthier It's not just the hits it's like you guys are putting your bodies through horrible situations And it's not giving you an advantage. I cannot believe he's just tossing your yeah I drink two fast switch Gatorade energies and then also coffee that's insane and also for a sleep schedule Still two to three times better than T or a Tom Peliseros. I heard he sleeps with his air pods in my guys falling asleep to get to text in his ear That's insane that if you you guys know me is this sicko this guy who like watches football the time if you found out I slept with air pods in I don't know. I feel like you guys feel yeah, that would be crazy. I guess I get it He's always on when he said that when he said that live it didn't sink in and then earlier today I was like wait Did he actually say he sleeps with his air pods in so that he doesn't get attacked like because I would have asked to follow up But it didn't even register if I had it doesn't make sense. You know it's so I talked to shifter Another insider is like someone who's like anytime I see an outlet I charge my phone like he tells that story I feel like I've seen him at the combine tell it a couple times like he's always charging his phone Which I think is fair with with the air pods saying you know how like sometimes like I see I think you do this You put your phone on like do not disturb or focus mode when you're going to bed because you don't want to be just Getting with all notifications or whatever TPs in disturbed mode, right? Yeah, so put me he's just like you know what actually send that right to the cerebral I want if I already my raw drops an update on Jeremiah loves ankle. I need to wake up It's time to get moving that fucking crazy man. I love the guy though that guy. That's a guy who loves football Zero Okay, I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait to hear his response All right, there you go. That's Bill's Texans very fun matchup Josh Allen two of his three worst starts over the last two seasons have been against the Houston Texans Statistically, so they've had a tough time with that Texan's defense But man if they come out and light them up because the Texans have become sort of a trendy hipstery Superbowl pick so I think Austin's right that there will be big narratives coming out of this game either way and guess what that's not even my Team now they're both probably gonna be yeah, and too much from now they're probably both gonna be pretty good teams Then you know headed to the plan one of those teams is going to lose and guess what their season's not over, right? If Stroud if Stroud looks like shit in that game he might again But it's their season's not over if the bills look a little clunky because they have a different coach. They're season's not over Like I feel like we just got to calm down enjoy the film. No, I don't like this perspective Austin. I like the crazy one. Yeah Okay, really you're up. What do you got? What's your next headline? All right, came in hot next headline ready to Ching Ching since I can't even repeat it. So I don't know. Ching Senati was the first one. Ching Senati. Okay. All right. Here's here's the next one ready Now imagine this on the back of a newspaper Bolts QB shocks cardinals with electric performance setting a career high in passing yards with the help of new OC Mike McDaniel Da-da-da-da Marian Hampton Lad McConkey and Quinn Johnson each hit triple digits in all purpose yards Wow Billy what kind of newspaper are we working with I just we have never seen a headline like that I've just never read one. I've never read that. I've never seen it. It's not Monday yet Okay, fair fair fair fair the chargers right If you buy them at price right now if you're playing fantasy football if you're betting them the wind of division betting They're over betting anything Herbert passing yards any of it. You are buying them I mean at the sky high top of the market, right? I mean because Mike McDaniel is Mike McDaniel And you know he could shock bolt electrify the carinals and week one like I think that The way to you know I play this game sometimes with my friends where like you say something and the only thing they can say is either Overrated or underrated they can't say anything else. We're like oh well, but you can only say overrated underrated if yeah I said they're properly rated. Yeah, yeah, you can yeah, you can only say overrated underrated chargers overrated Mike McDaniel Overrated right you can't you can't say underrated, but it's just a hard rules. It's just weak. No, I get it No, I think that I'm gonna win. No, I get it. I think that I think they are gonna win I just think that I think that it's just it's I think the chargers optimism I feel like I've been smoking it since fucking July first like I mean since they got Mike Daniel like I think that that that everyone can say Like I think everyone sees that Mike McDaniel is one of the best if not the best offensive play colors in the league What he did was to a chunk of my Lola who can't even win the starting job over an injured my turn again I can't he's heard again like we'll get to that in the ringer 107 by the way Mike McDaniel scored 70 points Again with to a chunk of my Lola and he can't even make a team The dolphins are paying him 59 million to not play for them and he scored 70 points with them So like what what Mike McDaniel could do With Justin Herbert it I think is is is priced in right? I think everyone can feel that I think they have to prove it and I still have questions on the interior offensive line They lost Jesse Menter that has to mean something. I like Harbaugh. I like McDaniel. I think Herbert's good. I like Hampton a lot the tackle are obviously good. They stay healthy. They should be good. They're another team like the on paper chargers. The on paper chargers should be good. Uh, wake me up when we see it because we just have it, right? And when we get to the playoffs, Herbert has been, you know, I love the little memes where he's like, if guy, Herbert's just been if guy since then nine and a half point favorites, the chargers. I think biggest favorite see any team in the NFL this weekend. I kind of like the Cardinals with the points there. I don't know. You might be right. You know, I would never take it. That's not going to be part of the ringer 107. I would never take it. But if you force me to pick a side there, I do sort of lean towards Austin where I'm like, all right, let's see it. There's a chance. There is a chance if you're a chargers fan, you're like, yeah, I guess what's up, Jenna? A rain on our parade before week one. Yeah. That this becomes the biggest story. One of the biggest stories in the NFL. We're just like Mike McDaniel plus Justin Herbert. They're scoring 35 every single week. This is amazing to watch. That absolutely is within the possible range of outcomes for this season. But I am on the side of let me see it rather than let me predict it. They should win this game by 10 plus, right? I mean, that's price. Like they should. Like the Cardinals are one of the worst of not the worst team in the league. I think they're going to be drafting number one overall with the foe hawk. Headline implies that they win by a lot here. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the line implies that they win by a lot as well. It's a fresh spread by apply that. Well, Austin thinks they're overrated. So who knows? I mean, if they were overrated or underrated, it'd be hard to say they're overall. They have the lightest bread of the first football underrated. Underrated. Love. Love just like just love in general. Yeah, the concept of love. I think underrated. Underrated. Seation. Oh, try love. I have. I'm a little selective. You guys are out there just, you know, passing around me. Please don't let me not, it's week one. Can we, can we not? I was about to call you a bunch of skanks, but you know what? I just, I just, I just, you know, no, I just, oh, wow. Who, who are you about to call a bunch of skanks? The people on this call? Just, you're loving everybody. You're loving everything. Set it down. Yeah. Go ahead. All right. Who's next next. I have another one. Okay. This is a headline, but it's also going to be whispered. I'm going to whisper it. Oh, Mike McCarthy's Steelers look good. One last ride. So I didn't finish that headline. I probably should have real something. But I think the Steelers are going to be very good. I think very good relative to price right now. I think it's nine and a half wins, right? I think that they're at or eight and a half, eight and a half, nine and a half wins is where they're at. I think they're going to be right in that Tomlin zone of winning another, another nine and eight season. And I kind of like them to at least get nine wins. If not be a sneaky 10 11 plus win team. And in week one, 11 wins with Aaron Rogers as their quarterback. Really? See, see, I think that. So, you know, you know, he, you know, the movie he. I mean, you literally can't get hired here. If I answered no, I would not have a job tomorrow. So, so the movie heat, right, is come. There's a, it's a, it's an amazing movie. It's a high movie. It's incredible. The ringer has documented it. They're coming out with another one in 2027 called heat to lean our capriotes in it. Christian Bale is going to be in it. I mean, Chris Ryan's talking about it in his sleep. It's going to be insane. I think the Steelers are heat to, right? They have a chance with Leo and our caprio Aaron Rogers, Christian Bale, Mike McCarthy, haven't done something good in a while. But I remember Mike McCart, and Christian Bale was pretty good. You know, the prestige, I mean, are you kidding? The machinist? If you want a deep cut. Now, Mike McCarthy, we haven't seen it in a while, right? I don't know if you've seen Bale's latest. It's not pretty. Okay. I, I missed the big short. But so let me, let me, let me, running with this for a second here. I think heat to has a chance to be terrible. Even with Leo, even with Bale, right? Because sequels, legacy sequels so far removed can sometimes just be really bad, right? And trying to do it one more time, another heist, one more time, can sometimes lead to Caputt. And I think the Steelers are a one last ride kind of team. McCarthy and Rodgers said it, the only reason Rogers came back. They're going on. One last one. McCarthy. One last ride with McCarthy and Rodgers, right? Like, Rodgers said the only reason he came back, he was going to retire is because McCarthy came back, right? Like it's one last ride with McCarthy. They're going to try and win it in a division where you're right. They aren't favored to win it. The Ravens should win the division. The bangles should compete with the Ravens to win it because on paper, they're the better football teams. But the Ravens have a brand new head coach, right? And a brand new offensive play collar that those are two question marks. You want to say they're good now? Let's see the games. And then you are the bangles. If you're counting on the bangles to do something in December and January, now you haven't watched the last three years. We don't know what this team's going to be, right? They've let us down every single year. Borough gets her. Even if he doesn't, they don't make the playoffs. Like this hasn't been a good team in December and January since 2021. So then I go down to the Steelers, who have been consistently good last year. The last year of Mike Tomlin, who talk about one last ride, guys have been playing Minecraft since like 2013. And like, I can't believe he admitted to that. Tomlin wants to leave. He essentially quits the Steelers job, right? And Tomlin, last year, that was the worst defense by EPA by success rate. The Steelers have ever fielded since Mike Tomlin's been the coach. So the only, there's going to be positive regression defensively. And the offense, I agree it wasn't good last year. But I think if anyone can bring Rodgers back to life, I think it is McCarthy. And in this division, we're in Indonesia about how that ended with McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers. Honestly, it was so long ago, a long ago, when McCarthy last co-chair Rodgers, we were like, this is a disaster. He like, this is a complete disaster. And Aaron was trying to get fired. And then by the way, Matt LaFloor comes in and Rodgers wins back-to-back MVPs. Like Mike McCarthy is the great, does the greatest PR job of anyone I've ever seen. It's like terrible when he left Aaron Rodgers. And then it got great. As soon as Aaron Rodgers got coached by a new person and now Aaron Rodgers is 42 freaking years old. Like, I actually, I don't totally, it sounds like I totally disagree with you. And I actually don't. I think the Steelers are a competitive team this year. I really like their defense. But I can't get there to the idea that they're going to win 11 games and that offense is going to actually be good. I wanted to be framed at price, right? If the Steelers are the favorites win the division, I'd be buying up every Ravens and Bengals ticket I could get. But the Steelers are third. And I think that there's actually a chance that this division ends up being pretty sloppy. And like, at the end, it's like a nine and eight or 10 and 17 that ends up winning it. The Steelers have been nine and eight for the last however many years. And yeah, Tomlin's not there. I think the defense gets better just because it can't get worse than last year. And the offense, even if it's just as good as last year, which wasn't that good, they added Michael Pittman, they added Jeremy Bernard who I like. I think Rico Dallon, Jalen Warner saw it. I think the getting rid of that tackle they drafted in the first round, Broderick Washington, whoever actually makes that line better, right? So like, maybe the offense is solid or better than last year. And maybe the defense is better than last year, but based off of mathematical regression alone, that again. And again, at price, I kind of like the Steelers. But I don't know what to get to them. The reason they want to stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the problem with Heist, though, you always go, they always go one job too far. You know what I mean? And that's how they get caught. So is this them going one job too far? I think that's, I think that would be where the public leans, right? I think that's where I think most people would argue that the Steelers are going to be either just as good as they were with Tomlin and they win like eight games or nine games or they're going to be worse. No one, no one, right? It just shields jumping, leaping out of his seat. Though I think he stands for every podcast that I'm thinking they could win 10, 11, 12 games. But like no one's predicting that that tells me someone might be, someone might be on the wrong side. All right. Good contrary intake there with the Steelers. I have one more, Billy. Do you have any more here? I do. I have one more as well. All right. Ready? You remember the first two, right? So remember, this is on the back of the newspaper here. Back page. Ready? Touchdowns likely. Isaiah likely shines in Giant's debut. However, Jackson's dart missed the bullseye in the fourth quarter as Cowboys late. I and T cast a shadow on John Harbaugh's big Apple debut. I like giving Apple in there. I think that's fresh. That's true. That's right. That is flowers in spring essentially. I think you're second. I think when you did Isaiah, give me the first part likely. Touchdowns likely. And then I think you can just go Isaiah. I don't think you have to go another likely. I was thinking that too. I think if I had an overall note, I think I've had an overall note for through now the three Gil. I'm a proud Gillian air. By the way, I don't know what you call your audience, but I think Gillian air is great. As a proud Gillian air, the note I'd have is just just less is more. I think you can get words out of there and I think we'd be in a really good place. I think we're also overindexing. We're overindexing on puns. You guys don't see this now, but when Christopher Sutton or Ace producer first on my shot, I had like a hundred more books behind here. And he's like, you know what, I think I'll take everything out. I think you just got to take some things down. It looks better. Less is more. Less is more. There you go. I did have a headline that didn't make the cut, but it is on that game. It's on that game. Nothing has changed. The Giants are still a disaster. I think that the Giants, if I had to put a hard take, I think they might suck out of the gate. And I think part of the reason is they have a really hard schedule to start the season. They start with the Cowboys in East Rutherford, so at home, but still that's Sunday Night Football. Bright lights on Jarn Harbor, a lot of newness, Matt Nagy, Greg Roman, Jackson Dart, who's missed half the games or been in the medical tent for half the games, like everyone's documented it. Like, this is a lot of newness with a lot of bright lights on Sunday Night against a good Cowboys team, right? They could play, the Giants could play Sunday Night, the best football game we see and my league neighbors looks healthy and they still lose, right? So say they lose out of week one on an island game. And week two, they play Monday night against the Rams in Los Angeles. So they go cross court all the way to Los Angeles to play the Super Bowl favorite in another prime time game. So you start the season O and two, everyone always says O and Tombstone because it's like 11 or 12% of teams that start O and two actually make the playoffs. They go O and two in games where they play well. Let's say the Giants play well, but they still lose games in prime time spots. I brought up how everyone's going to have it take coming out of of these games, the Giants lose two island games to start the season, their own two. I don't think you're gonna put on a TV that's not talking about how the Giants maybe blew this. - Well, I mean, but they have four potential bouncebacks after they have 10 to see Arizona watch. - Yeah, yeah, it should get back, I'm buying the Giants when they get out of that slate, right? I think the Giants are gonna be like all the way at the bottom, right? Like you're gonna like, I might buy a little, to buy a little of their win total at that point, bet them immediately in week three 'cause I think that's gonna like risk at all kind of game for John Harba, but in week one, not eager to bet them just 'cause they're not super healthy, it's got a bell coming back from a crazy injury, neighbors coming back from a crazy injury, dark literally just wants to get hurt. There's a report coming out in New York that he's like not sliding in practice. Have you guys ever seen a quarterback have to be told to slide in practice? I can't even think of that. And then he's like, he gets to the podium and they said, he gets to the podium and they say, how are you getting hurt? He's like, I have no idea. I think I have a, I think I have an idea. I have a clue, I have a clue, right? You're playing a little reckless, which is fine. I know how to play reckless, but like in the NFL, when you're the most important reason that giants are going to win every game, you got to say healthy, that's part of it, right? That's part of it. You can't take unnecessary risks. He's not that guy and band a brother shout out the anniversary who just like runs straight through all the bullets and just doesn't get hit. Like that's not how the league works. You're going to get clipped. And I think he needs to learn that. Scatabo's been head-butting cement wall since he was 13, so he's not going to figure that out ever really. But like this is a team that I think plays reckless on the field, has a brand new head coach. There have been better, worse teams have started out sloppy and they got two island spots. There's going to be a lot of attention on it. I can't believe you compared Leonardo DiCaprio and heat two to this version of Aaron Rodgers. I mean, that's offensive. It's not my need to be caught up. I don't think Leonardo DiCaprio is Aaron Rodgers for what it's worth. I think I'd have to find maybe another actor that's showing up in heat two. And that's a very loose half-baked kind of connection. But I do think it's like a heist movie, right? I think that they're just trying to do one more bank robbery. And it's probably not going to fucking work because Aaron Rodgers is 42 years old. And Mike McCarthy has been around for five years, right? Mike McCarthy has, when's the last time Mike McCarthy even coached, right? Like all the stuff that you say, she'll about like, Mike McCarthy hasn't done anything. It didn't work out then. I think that's priced in, right? And to where they are in the division and how many wins they might get. And I think the reasons that this doesn't work is all the reasons we know right now. Aaron Rodgers is too old. Mike McCarthy's lost his fastball and the defense is too old, right? I think that's, you know, if that happens, it'll be like, oh, yeah, no shit. But then if there are a surprise scene, which I feel like every year before the season, we act like there won't be surprises. Like, I think the Steelers could be one of them. All right, there you go. I know my last one I'm going to save for the ringer 107 because it's one of the games I'm picking. So we'll just combine it with that. So let's take a break. We come back. It's a ringer 107 time. I'm going to give these guys my picks. They're going to make fun of me. And we'll see where we land. All right, we're back here on the ringer NFL show. Today's ringer 107 is brought to you by Fandall. Make this your most rewarding season. Download the Fandall app to check out all of our 107 picks and boosted teasers every week this season. All right, so if you're new to the show, or you're not sure what the ringer 107 is, I'm going to try to explain it. These guys can correct me if I'm wrong. So this is a bunch of us compete against one another. It's Bill Simmons. It's the ringer wise guys. It's the ringer fantasy show. I might be forgetting about someone in there. And if I do, I apologize. - We're going to punch him. - We're going to have to eat the bundos. - Yeah, they're all on the ringer ones. That's the last thing. We're going to cause them cousin salad, huh? Danny Heifert's going to roll back. Danny Kelly. - Right. - Shook a pot here, right? - Yeah. - She'll hold the ringer NFL show. So last year, we came in second. We got off to a slow start. We came back. We were hot in the Super Bowl. When 5 and 0 finished 56 and 51, and we lost, you know why? Because those fantasy guys won betting on the coin flip. - Yeah. - In the Super Bowl. - So we're not going to lose that. - That's going to happen again. Now, the rules are a little bit different this year. So you pick four games against the spread and then your fifth is a teaser. So for those who don't know what a teaser is, you pick kind of two different lines and you can move each of them six points. So it can be, I'll get to mine here in a second and explain it, but it can be an over under, it can be against the spread, whatever, but you have to get both right to win that bet. So that's what we're going to do. So I've got picks ready and we'll see how we do it throughout the season. You know, if I'm stinking it up, someone else might say, I want to make these picks. But for now, for week one, I've got them covered my first pick here. We are going to the team. We just spent like 20 minutes talking about the Steelers minus four and a half at home against the Atlanta Falcons. That's my first pick to a tongue of Iloa suffered an oblique injury in practice. Cooper Rush took first team reps. I do like the Steelers defense quite a bit. I don't love the offense, but you know what? I think they're going to be able to do enough because that Falcons team cannot rush the passer. So my first pick Steelers minus four and a half against the Falcons. I don't know. Do you guys want to boo me? Do you want to cheer me for these? Do you just want to give some analysis? You tell me how you want to react. So you probably don't know where I'm at, right, because I'm big on Steelers. I have a, I have a, I have a, I have a, a Shekel on, on alt line Steelers minus six and a half. I like moving into six and a half, but I mean, for this contest, I think four and a half makes sense. Tool again, the oblique injury. Maybe he's actually hurt. Maybe they don't want to start him. I don't know what's happening there. I mean, I've never seen, I've never seen reporting out of camp, right, about a potential starting quarterback or even a quarterback situation as odd as the tool one. Like you bring in a guy who is being paid $50 something million to not be on a football team and he can't even make your football team. Like in an ideal world, he wouldn't make your football team that, that has to be, and he's the one who's supposed to lead every huddle. Right? I think they were going to be dysfunctional, right? And it's a brand new head coach, right? And so Fansky's great, but I think he recognizes that this quarterback room sucks. And I think he's looking at Archmaning, Lenora Sellers, CJ Carr, Darian Mensa, Julian Sain, I'm probably missing like six names, but he's looking at this QB class and saying, sign me up. All right. We're all aligned there. Steelers minus four and a half against the Falcons. All right. The next one. This was one of the headlines. I left on the cutting room floor. Do you believe in miracles Jets break interception streak in opener? Wow. So we just need to remind each other that the Jets did not have an interception last year. It's still one of the craziest stats than all the football, maybe in all of sports. Now they go to Tennessee and they are underdogs, one and a half point underdogs against the Tennessee Titans. I just think that Jets are a flat out, more confident team. I think that their players are better. I'm not telling you they're going to be a good team. But I just think they're kind of one tier up against this Titans team where I don't know what Kim were. It's going to look like this year. I don't know what Brian Debal's going to bring to the table. It did not feel like a great summer for that Titans team. And I think this one will come down to which quarterback makes fewer mistakes. And I'm bouncing on not a, I'm counting on not a big Geno Smith bounce back. But just like a tiny Geno Smith bounce back where he doesn't look like the worst quarterback in the NFL. He's going to bounce back. Jets plus one and a half. I mean, Chip Kelly was calling plays that he did not install in practice. This was the highest paid offensive coordinator in NFL history. That's what was happening last year. That's how bad Geno Smith had it and the offensive line sucked and the receivers were good and Brock Bauer's was her like, if Geno Smith is worse this year, the Jets need to relocate and rename the team because how much worse can it get? Okay. All right. J.E.T.S. Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. What could go wrong? Right? All right. Billy gives me the clap for that one. All right. Next one here. We talked about this game already. And I think we're going to be aligned. Once again, Cowboys minus two and a half at the Giants Sunday night football. I got the Cowboys here. Now you're supposed to stay away from games like this. This is like, all right, yeah, divisional game. It looks too good to be true. You're going with the road favorite. But I can't help it because I think to Austin's point, this Cowboys offense is going to be pretty good. And I think that this Giants offense is not going to be very good. You didn't even mention the coaching staff there. Austin, Matt Nagy. I'm supposed to believe he's going to come back and all of a sudden he's going to be scheming it up after he got quietly fired by, you read on that, by, by, and that was so weird. So I don't buy this Giants coaching staff, especially at the beginning of the season. I think there's a chance that their pass rush shows up in a big way and that Cowboys offensive line. I'm a little unsure of. It's a scenario where I think the Giants could steal this game. But I'm going to go with the Dallas Cowboys covering to an half. The Tyler Smith injury, I feel like is probably going to be one that gets under discussed because it happened. Underrated. It's a big injury. It's a big injury. And like, I don't like, you know, I think there's, I think a betting trend about taking road favorites, division road favorites, especially week one, right? I think the Giants could cover this game and look bad, right? Like, I think that, I don't know, it's probably not a bet I'm rushing to make, even though I just kind of try. I think the Giants could lose this game and play really well. Like, that's my fear, right? I think the Giants could be a good team this year, but start slow and then kind of have the season written off, right? But, yeah, I don't know. I don't think I'm co-signing this bet. I do like Dallas. I think they'll be good. I think the best buy signal you can do for Dallas and Sal and Bill are all over this. When's the last time you guys heard from Jerry Jones? You see him in the news lately? He's been awfully quiet. And you think Jerry Jones is quiet because things are good or things are bad? It's because things are good. It's because things are really good. And he knows that this team can win and he doesn't need to get loud about it. He's not, he's a brag about anything. I feel like he understands that this might be a window. And I think he loves Sean Heimer. He's been confident with him from the day one. Like, the for your fantasy guys, I love that show. I work on that show. Shout out to seven. God bless. They brought up how they want Jerry Jones to win Super Bowl. They kind of just want to see him win one. And I feel like I kind of on board. Like, I kind of do want to see Jerry just talk. one more Lamberti because I mean the man you want to go you want to see a guy who loves football she'll I think I love football more than me too this list is growing now we've got Tom we've got you guys we've got Jerry you know what if you if you interview the broader population I think I'm in a rank pretty high but you guys this select I hope so yeah it's working against me a little bit here not that's all not to take this to a dark place but you know for most people they say like oh you know there's like only one big event after retirement right like I think we all know I haven't heard that well we're talking about yeah I know what you're talking about the event is awesome yeah you know what the event is I don't know are we worried that there's only one event left after Jerry Jones wins a Super Bowl for Jerry or is there one event that someone dies yeah the person yeah I think Jerry dying after he wins a ring is exactly how he wants to go out I think the fear really him dying before he talks one I think I think I want to see Jerry get one before he goes down because I think earned one is be a little crazy but yeah we could be celebrating Thanksgiving and looking at the Mike Parsons trade and being like Jerry might have cooked maybe we're not maybe she'll doesn't love football so I feel like Thanksgiving like he's not like gonna be soon he doesn't eat food on Thanksgiving I don't even like that I like Thanksgiving quite do you love Thanksgiving though um I've heard the theory they all Jerry Jones is being quiet because he loves his team like maybe he's just tired yeah he's like he's yet enough there you know I'm saying sometimes that's also fairly words so it could just be that all right so I got the cowboys he's older than Joe Biden right I mean he's getting up there she's gonna bring Paul's six cents for Austin now this is well listen last episode we did the American health care system so I think we're okay this is different avenues here and then finally my T's here so again you can move two lines six points so the Denver Broncos are two and a half point underdogs against the chiefs I'm bumping that up to eight and a half so we get the Denver Broncos plus eight and a half they don't have to win the game they don't even have to keep it that close they just have to lose by fewer than eight and a half so I've got the Broncos as my one leg of that that's a big game Monday night against the chiefs and then the Jaguars go into this weekend eight and a half point favorites against the Cleveland Browns I'm bumping that down to minus two and a half so that's the T's Broncos plus eight and a half against the chiefs Jaguars minus two and a half against the Browns I need those two to hit and we hit the T's for our final pick again we all have to do one T's a week so that's mine for this week what do we think do you guys bet teasers have you bet these teasers no I've never I've literally never done a teaser in my life until today yeah you're doing this one though for sure though right shield well for the ranger one oh yeah exactly yeah so there's this thing bill has brought this up rehab Palmer on the ranger gambling show brings us up all the time the big thing with teasers is they say not to repeat rehab Palmer I don't know all I know is all I know about is his his hotel room usage in Vegas I think that's more interesting in those bets but the the they were talking about like don't tease through zero right like teasing like if someone's favorite by two and a half and you cheese it all the way to like the other team now like favorite by three and a half you're not because so many football games land on its three it's like two three and seven or it's like oh no it's three six and seven so you want to like with your first leg of this tease you're teasing through three you're teasing through six and you're teasing through seven because most games because of how touchdowns and field goals work land on those three numbers and you're like taking advantage of you know not uniform percentages right so with this other bet and the Jags one you're you're getting it through three and you are getting that two and a half but like bringing a big favorite down to three and a two and a half you could lose that bet in a way that just doesn't make sense a leg I would just offer to replace would take the lions down to a half point and it's just they have to beat the saints lions beat the saints at home we win that leg and it's it's if the Broncos cover by eight and a half and the lions win the game that's our cheese wow chill listen it's a good one but I have actually already sent these in so you said he's in yeah we had to send him you need to touch me don't you know I'm around listen well I see am I a part of this contest or I'm like a guest picker we should make this a consultant on these but after I would have sent them in yeah yeah I'm down that's good I like that I think I was a good process so we will see oh yeah I hate this I can't do anything about it now I've been keeping an eye on that lions one versus the Jaguars one and could it hurt me absolutely and could Austin Gale be sending me angry texts and calling me a dummy on Sunday afternoon sure and you know what I want that because this is all for good fun you're not going to be on your phone on Sunday you're probably going to be hiking or something right or no yeah I know well I do I do put the phone face down because I don't need to be communicating I locked in to the sport that I really like oh football football you like you like quite a lot like quite a bit yeah quite a bit just like stick here are the picks stealers minus four and a half at home versus the Falcons Jets plus one and a half at the Titans Cowboys minus two and a half at the Giants and then we got our T's Broncos plus eight and a half and Jaguars minus two and a half today's ringer one oh seven was brought to you by Fandall download the 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