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491 - Bombing Beirut, Back To Butler & Melania’s Mission

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491 - Bombing Beirut, Back To Butler & Melania’s Mission

The transcript blends satire and commentary on multiple topics, beginning with a celebration of Kewpie mayo—a Japanese mayonnaise made with egg yolks that delivers a rich, umami flavor widely used in professional cooking. It then shifts to a provocative, fictional argument that Donald Trump may have staged an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, suggesting that such a disclosure would be dramatic and fascinating, even if controversial. The discussion expands into critiques of U.S. foreign policy, particularly Israel’s bombing campaigns in Beirut, which are argued to be indiscriminate and counterproductive, fueling radicalization. A central theme is the rise of artificial intelligence, with warnings that powerful AI systems like Anthropic’s Mythos can uncover deep security flaws and pose existential threats to governments and human society. The speaker emphasizes that the U.S.-China AI race has become a dangerous arms race rather than a collaborative effort to improve life. California’s economy is used as a case study, illustrating how a few tech firms dominate the state’s growth while citizens face poverty, addiction, and social collapse. The piece ends with a darkly humorous vision of a future where AI and corporate power reshape society into a feudal system, with the elderly and vulnerable left behind. Throughout, the tone is critical, irreverent, and deeply concerned with the loss of public awareness about real-world dangers like AI and economic inequality, contrasting them with overblown fears of geopolitical threats like Iran.

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This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East, that's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East, that's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. We've been talking about Kewpie mayo for a minute now, and wow, so many of you already love this stuff. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Kewpie? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise, the one with the red cap. What makes it different? Egg yolks. Kewpie is made with egg yolks only, giving it this rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. Where chefs work, of course. Food and flavor lovers use it. You haven't tried it yet? Well, find the red cap and see what everyone's talking about, why don't ya? Kewpie. The original Japanese mayonnaise. Kewpie. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. We hope you are well out there. Donald Trump, our president, is embroiled in a feud with many of his closest supporters. And I think he should change the subject. I am in the minority here, but here's, let me come out and defend Trump right now. Can I defend him? Let me defend him. I don't care if he staged the assassination attempt at Butler. I don't care. I don't care, and I think he should admit it. I think he should admit it. I should change the subject. Stop talking about Iran. Just admit you staged it in Butler. It was the heat of the campaign. People do crazy things in campaigns. I think, I'm speaking just for myself. I will not think less of you if you admit to staging and faking. The assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. I will be impressed by the level of coordination. Explain to us how you did it. Kind of like those David Copperfield behind the, and I know that David Copperfield had some Epstein links. Folks, that's neither here nor there. I'm trying to explain the way a magician will show you how they do their trick. I think Donald Trump should do a one-hour special on Barry Weiss's CBS News. This is a great idea with Barry, members of the Mossad, and Trump to discuss how they fabricated and staged the assassination attempt. Now, of course, a real person died, and that's terrible. R.I.P. And they should say that in high stakes, things like this, stuff like that happens. Imagine a town hall where Barry Weiss interviews Donald Trump about staging the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. It would be an amazing, because it's a fascinating topic. Whichever way you stand, however you come down on it. Some people are going to go, well, it was wrong that he did that. And some people, like myself, are going to be more interested in the how. How did you do it? It's fascinating. Joe Kent, who's, you know, he resigned from the intelligence, national intelligence. I don't even know anymore what these things are called. Tulsi Gabbard is the head of it, the director of national intelligence, the DNI. And Joe Kent was, I guess, her deputy director, and he resigned. And he's kind of alluded to the fact that maybe, like, maybe the assassination was, like, not something that we, we don't know the full story. So maybe it was staged. Maybe it was faked. Maybe it was some kind of message to him, although I don't understand that, because it almost, I mean, I don't get it. I don't get how close you would come, the ear, the top of the ear. But I think maybe it was staged. And that, and I think now is the time to just come out and say, some people are going to be upset by this, but we staged the assassination attempt in Butler to show people how important it is and how important it was to vote for me and how, how far I was willing to go for them. Sure, some people will be upset if he admits it. I'm not one of them. I'm not one of them. I stand by Trump if he comes out and says, I faked this. I stand by him. I don't mind that. I don't mind the pageantry of that. The skill, the technique. I don't, I don't mind that. It actually, it's a little endearing that he'd be willing, because there's not no danger in a fake assassination attempt. Right? Right? There's some danger. If you do a stunt in a movie, people die all the time. Right? So there is still danger. And if he said, I staged, I staged it and we faked it, but they explained to me before we did it, Mr. He wasn't present yet, but they said, Donald, you could die doing this staged assassination. We don't think it'll happen, but it is difficult. And we don't know what's going to happen. I think this would be fascinating for the country. And it would move us in the right direction, because this is what, let's take a look again, Butler, Pennsylvania. It's a little bit old, that chart. That chart's a couple of months old. And if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened. Now, a lot of people say that when he gets up here, that the fact that they, that he gets up and that it, they, they move very slowly and he goes, wait, wait, wait. And he comes back and they do the photo op. A lot of people are saying that's evidence. I'm not saying this, by the way. People are saying it's like letting him up like that when they don't know if there's another shooter. A lot of people are saying maybe it's a staged assassination. I'm saying, I don't care if it is. I think it was very well done. No, I mean, truly. I'm saying, I don't care. That is important for our country, whether it was real or fake. It is the moment where George W. Bush stood into the rubble of 9-11, which they also might've done. And with the, with the bullhorn said, I hear you. People around the world hear you. And the people who brought these buildings down are going to hear from all of us soon. These are important moments in our country, whether they are real or fake. Not every historic moment is going to be real. And if you think it is or has to be, you have an overly simplistic understanding of history. It was important that moment when he said, fight, fight, fight. It was important. And this, look at, look at the people here. Does it matter if it's real? It's so, it's so emotional. And it, to me, I don't, I think, do you think people would be angry if you just said we staged it? I mean, some people would. I think most people would. But here's the problem. I, I wouldn't. Does that make me crazy that I wouldn't? Does that make me, it does, huh? It makes me, I, I tell you right now, I'm not even kidding. I am not kidding. If he said we staged this whole thing, I would laugh. I would not be mad. I'm mad about Iran. I'm mad that we've gotten American servicemen. I think just men, but I was, I always say men and women. And if women got killed, I am sorry. The fact that anyone is dying for this war, I'm completely against that. That makes me angry. It makes me angry that we've done this. It makes me angry that we're still giving Israel military aid. It makes me angry. But if he just came out and said, by the way, we, we, we, we rehearsed that. We staged it. It was a production. I'm personally not angry. I don't know what that says about me. I laugh. And I, you know what it is? I go, Donnie, it's a Donnie T thing. I go, Donnie. Hey, you got us again. You got us. And, and by the way. Hey, I'm not saying it was staged. Other people are that kind of work in the government. I'm just saying if it was staged, come out and say it. Sit down with Barry Weiss, friend of the show, Barry Weiss, who's doing a great job at CBS, by the way. I don't know if you've heard of this. Tens of people are watching and she's about to take a sledgehammer to 60 Minutes, their most iconic news magazine. So Barry Weiss brings him on and talks to him and goes, Mr. President, this is Barry Weiss. Welcome to CBS. Many people are angry that you admitted to fabricating your own assassination on television. But you knew how high stakes this election was. And you knew that if you didn't kill the Ayatollah in Iran, no one would. So can you tell us why it was so important to stage? Your own assassination? And he would. And he would. And I think that would be a fascinating show. That would be fascinating. Israel, by the way, bombing Beirut a hundred times in how long did they how long was it? Was it an hour? Ten minutes. Ten minutes. You know, I'm and I don't want to guys, guys. I like don't want to be I don't always want to be like down on Israel, but I got to be honest. A hundred times in what, ten minutes in a densely populated urban area. I'm really starting to get the feeling and I'm just saying this. I'm starting to get the feeling that this country, Israel, is a little bit of a problem. I'm starting to get this nagging feeling that Israel doesn't really want this ceasefire. They don't want it to work. Take a look here. Explosions rock Beirut as Israel carries out its biggest attack. Now, by the way, stop this for a minute. Israel claims in all of these buildings there are terrorists doing terrorist things. Like thinking, I don't know what that even means, but apparently there are terrorists everywhere talking about attacking Israel and Israel has to kill everyone to make sure that none of these terrorists find a way to do it. So Israel just kind of like wholesale blowing up apartment complexes. Because within that apartment complex, there are, I guess, terrorists. This is what all these brilliant people keep telling us. All the advocates of the Israeli strategy here that there are terrorists in this apartment complex. So we just got to light it up. We just got to blow it up. And. Who's this absolute bombshell on? Sky News, a Lebanese rescue worker completely dismantles the Israeli military narrative. He confirms the bombed area in Beirut was purely civilian with zero Hezbollah presence. Israeli Israel internationally targeted innocent children and the elderly. Here's the problem when you embrace this total war. That Israel seems to be embracing their their argument is we're going to kill everyone. And then some of those people. Will be terrorists. That's that's really their argument. Their argument is like if we kill everyone. Inevitably, some of the people will be terrorists. Or like, you know, whatever. Take our word for it. But we have to kill everyone just to make sure. Because anyone who's thinking about becoming a terrorist or anyone who knows the terrorist or who. Might grow up to be a terrorist has to be eliminated. So they've taken this strategy, which, by the way, I've never even seen this. In like 41 years of my life, I've never seen the brutality of this type of warfare. Now, I'm sure it's existed. I'm not an idiot. But this idea that you would just go in and bomb a hundred targets. In 10 minutes. And a lot of them are civilians. And you are massacring people, women and children. I mean. The blowback that Israel will get from this and that the United States will get from funding. It is going to be. Insane. You're creating. Terrorists. All over the world. That are seeing this bloodshed. And it's going to radicalize them. To commit. Acts of terror. You can't just indiscriminately kill. Civilians. And not expect. That. People are going to be. Radicalized. And driven to violence. And Israel doesn't want this ceasefire to last with Iran. They don't. They want the Iranian regime completely neutered. They want it to be a dysfunctional country. They want it to look. Like. Gaza. They want it to at least be Syria. Where you have either a puppet government. You have kind of a dysfunctional country. They don't want. An Iranian regime that is stronger. And more dedicated. To getting nuclear weapons. Than they were. But that's what they're going to get. That's what they're going to get. Because it's pretty clear to everybody. Who's honest. That we've lost. Our objectives in this war. Have not been met. We simply. Are walking away. And we should. But the only way to win. Is like 100,000 troops or a nuke. That's the only way to win. And there's people in the country. That want a nuke used. And there's people that have argued for that. At high levels. Truly. That are saying. Why don't you drop a nuke on Iran? And if we go after the Iranian infrastructure. Their energy infrastructure. They're going to hit energy infrastructure in the Gulf. The price of oil is going to skyrocket. We're going to have a global energy crisis. So we've lost. There's nowhere to go. It's checkmate. We can't do the things we think we can. We're tweeting. We're truth socialing. Whatever. We're trying to win the war on social media. And we're not even doing that. Because can you. Do you have the Lego thing up? Can you get that Lego video? We're not even winning the shit talking war. We're not even winning that. The shit talk. You think America would win that? At least. If we're going to win one thing. We're getting bodied. By Iranian AI. In the war of shit talk. Truly. How embarrassing. We're the country that invented. Shit talk. And we're getting lit up. Take a look. Orange pig. America first. Oops. Oh boy. That was the slogan you stole. But baby's pulling strings. And your vote is getting cold. Oh. We're not just fighting for Iran. Hear this clear. Your people reached out to us. Yeah. We got the DMs here. If one nation's going to stand against the Epstein regime's fear. It's us to the last breath. We've been doing it for years. We're standing here for everyone. Your system ever wrong. They've known all along. How are we losing? Yes. We're getting bodied with the Lego stuff. Stealing from your own people. Making them bleed. Taking tax dollars just to fund your own greed. Ain't waking up to the lies that you're losing. Unbelievable. You streamed America first. Now you put losers first. Unbelievable. Make Israel great again. Your government is run by pedophiles. They ordered you to die for Israel. They lied to you all. I mean, we're not even winning that. We're losing that. I mean, it's unbelievable. God. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest. Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Tom Thumb. It's time to stock up and save now through October 27th. Get $10 off when you spend $25 or more on participating items. Just look for participating item tags to earn on eligible items from brands like Chobani, Banquet, Pete's Coffee, Triscuit, and Ozarka. Clip once and save through October 27th every time you shop. Grab these hot deals before they're gone. Save on brands you trust. Restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions. This is Matt. Matt Rogers from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. We've been talking about Kewpie mayo for a minute now, Beau, and wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Kewpie. Uh, do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise, the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know it, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo. Well, the answer, egg yolks. Kewpie is made with egg yolks only. Giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Kewpie it. So if you haven't tried Kewpie yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. Kewpie, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Hi, everybody. It's James and Andy here. From. Your next favorite podcast, no such thing as a fish. James, what do we do? We are fact mongers. You might say we look for the best facts in the whole wide world. For instance, Andy, did you know that zebras sometimes have spots instead of stripes? I didn't know that. It throws into disarray all the kids books that we have in our house. You've rocked my world. James, did you know that cave lions were only 3% lion? I had no idea about that, and I still don't really know what it means. But if you love facts like that, then come and find us. There's no such thing as a fish wherever you get your podcasts. Well, at least the state of California is doing good. Gavin Newsom came out and touted some figures that show that the state of California, where I'm sitting right now, is the is it the fourth largest economy in the world? Because we just. We just beat Japan and India, but we didn't beat them by much, by the way. And some of that has to do with, you know, the currency strength of the dollar and things like that. But California is right now, I believe the we have a four trillion dollar gross domestic product. And it accounts for more than 14% of U.S. output. And this output. It's going to pace major economies. And I believe we're number we were number five, but now we are number four. We are number four in rank. California is number four in rank when it comes to GDP and growth. But everyone I know wants to kill themselves. Because California also has a terrible consumer economy. Confidence rating like the rest of America, by the way. People feel very insecure economically, but because California has five big tech companies and they're run by five guys who are all in some way Satan. Those companies account for a ton of the wealth being. Generated in California. It's a tech heavy state. And all of those companies, we're talking about things like Alphabet, NVIDIA, Open AI. All of these things. This is a big part of why California is kicking ass. California's future growth will be intimately tied to the fortunes of his tech industry to get some idea of how tech driven California's economy has become during the new semester. We'll talk about that in a minute. But before we do some years, I looked at market capitalizations of large publicly traded companies before he took office versus today. At the end of 2018, about 60% of California big public company market cap was from tech. Today is about 80%. So it's gone up about 20%. And the increase in this ratio is driven by the sharp increase in the value of a few companies. NVIDIA, Apple, Alphabet, which is Google. Broadcom, Meta, which is Facebook. All of these companies are going to be in the market. All of these companies are now worth more than a trillion dollars. While back in 2018, none of them was worth more than $750 billion. So all these tech companies are trillion dollar companies. They account for a massive amount of the GDP. By contrast, California's other signature industry, movie and television production, High Shrunk, on location shoot. They're going to be in the market for the rest of the year. The market days in L.A. plummeted 53% from late 2019 to late 2024, while soundstage occupancy fell from around 90% to just 63%. Iconic studios slash staff, prop houses shuttered, and vendors went bankrupt. Entertainment can no longer be considered a tentpole of the California economy. So, by the way, this is the future of the United States. Tech is everything. It's everything. These firms employ relatively few people to, if you compare it to, like, what General Motors employed at the height of, you know, or Chrysler or companies like that. Tech companies employ very few people relative to those companies, and they're shedding jobs because AI is doing a lot more. So a lot of the jobs that would have been traditional tech jobs are going away. And these companies, Nvidia, Alphabet, Google, you know, which is Alphabet, you know, Apple, Meta, these companies are, so this is why Newsom, every interview, he talks about we have more engineers, we're graduating more engineers, we have more doctors, we have more tech, we have more this, we have more that. But then you drive down the highway, and someone who's bleeding. Is wandering across the highway in some, like, altered mental state. And that's coming soon to a theater near you. This is exactly what happens when the entire country is, the entire economic output of the country is a few tech companies worth a trillion dollars run by different versions of Satan. Again, their words, not mine. This is what happens. But the rest of California is just left to, like, figure it out. So you go, wow, this is the, because you say to yourself, wow, what is the fourth largest economy in America look like? Like, if I went to L.A., it's, I'm sorry, not America, the fourth largest economy in the world. What would that look like? The fourth largest economy in the world. You're expecting something. You're going, wow, I bet it's clean. I bet the people seem productive. I bet things run efficiently. It's the fourth largest economy in the world. I bet it's safe because there's enough money. I bet the standard of living's pretty high. I bet they've taken care of. The vulnerable members of their society. I'm sure there's not rampant crime. And if you went to the flagship city of that, which is Los Angeles, you'd be, like, horrified. You'd be absolutely horrified. You'd be going, what's going on? Why are there people sleeping on the street? Why are there people overdosing into Whole Foods? Why are there people going face down into a. Whole Foods Caesar salad and dying? Why are there blue lip fentanyl addicts having seizures at the bus stop? And you go, oh, because this economy is run by five companies locked away in Northern California. And that allows Gavin Newsom to go out and go, whoa, hey, nobody's more productive than us. Like this NVIDIA CEO. I forget this guy's name. Huang Huang Jensen Huang Jensen Huang urged people to move to California despite the high taxes. Just a group of billionaires left the state in recent months under the threat of a new wealth tax. I say to everybody, Jensen says, move to California. Don't leave. It's the highest taxes in the world, but it's OK. Now, Huang Jensen Huang is the world's 10th richest person. And he said the weather is great during an event. At Stanford on Thursday, he goes to weather is great. So this is who California is now for the 10th richest. By the way, it may even work if you're like the 30th richest person in the world. You might love it. It's it's totally fine if you're not even in the top 20. You could be like the 35th richest person in the world and get along fine here. But you might wonder if you're. In the fourth. most productive economy in the whole world why people are dying in front of you that might that might cross your mind you know like you can we can all people can argue about the reasons why but everybody knows it's happening people in the far right far left checked out center whatever everybody can see that it's happening in the in the fourth most productive economy in the country everybody says well that's interesting and then by the way just talk to anyone in california talk to them and ask them how things are going that's like a very non-scientific poll just be like what's up guys how you how you feeling because nobody feels great except that this guy who likes to weather who's the 10th richest person in the world goes through the same thing speak to anyone in la i'm not talking about like paris hilton go find a person in los angeles and ask them how they're doing waiter waitress somebody who works at a gym somebody who used to be a cameraman somebody who used to work in set design find any of those people see how they're doing how are they doing how do they feel do they feel like they're the fourth you most productive economy in the world does it feel like that no because it's all balanced on these five companies and all of those companies are trying to take the jobs of everybody else so by the way it's still gonna be california will still be the fourth largest economy in the world when everyone's out of work and it's a full-on zombie apocalypse and hordes of people are running around on some new designer drug trying to eat each other it will still be in fact at that point it might be the third largest economy in the world california might go up because they might have they might have just said fuck it these companies are making more money we fired everybody and the airplanes won't be able to land because hordes of zombies will be running around lax and they'll have to mow them down they'll have to mow the zombies and they'll have to mow the zombies down on the runway at lax they'll go ladies and gentlemen we're having a slight delay here we're gonna have to circle the airport at lax we do have an incident on one of the runways the runway that we were cleared to land at so we're just gonna circle the airport this is very routine don't worry about it and then what will happen is people will come out with guns and then shoot the hordes of zombies on runway 3l so that your plane can land and there will be bodies of zombies that they light on fire and you'll see them ladies and gentlemen welcome to los angeles uh sorry about the delay there but we still got in about 10 minutes ahead of schedule um we have of course uh as you can see an incident that we're still responding to because you got to remember they're going to be burning the bodies of the zombies at lax they'll be burning the bodies of the zombies when your flight lands and at that point california will be the third largest economy it'll have gone up one because they'll have eliminated some of the zombies and they're going to be burning the bodies of the the overhead all the pesky overhead they will have eliminated it so they don't need the people anymore so they'll go there'll be 17 people at that point living in the bay area and they'll all have a trillion dollars there'll be 17 people living in the bay area and they'll all have a trillion dollars and they'll have houses with security and and and clock towers with guys with guns and then everybody else is going to be running around like fucking uh you know uh fucking um the what's the zombie one the big one that was the popular one what was it years later no the tv show oh walking dead yeah it's going to be like the walking dead and then 17 people and they're going to come out and the gut the governor whoever it is at that point will come out and go with the third we're very proud to be the third largest economy in the world and we graduate more engineers than ever and we're going to be the third largest economy in the world and then it'll just be 17 people that live in northern california they all have at that point they'll have two trillion dollar companies their companies will be worth two trillion dollars because they'll they'll have figured out a way to completely uh replace you know they'll take humans out of most things so it'll drive the profits up astronomically hey it's ryan seacrest for albertsons and tom thumb it's time to stock up and save now through october 26th get ten dollars off when you spend twenty-five dollars or more on participating items just look for participating item tags to earn on eligible items from brands like bubbler ghost energy lindor halo top vital farms kellogg's campbell's and heinz clip once and save through october 27th every time you shop grab these hot deals before they're gone restrictions apply see website for full terms and conditions this is matt rogers from lost culture east that's with matt rogers and bowen yang this is bowen yang from lost culture east that's with matt rogers and bowen okay we've been talking about qb mail for a minute now bow and wow the feedback we're getting i mean so many of y'all love this stuff you're stopping us in the street going i love qb and if you're thinking wait what is qb uh do you not have the internet it's the og japanese mayonnaise the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle once you know what you start seeing it everywhere people ask what makes it different from basic mayo well the answer egg yolks qb is made with egg yolks only giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything burgers fries sandwiches chicken noodles chefs use it restaurants use it people who really love food and flavor use it whatever you're eating qb hit so if you haven't tried qb yet find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about you'll understand qb the original japanese mayonnaise everybody it's james and andy here from your next favorite podcast no such thing as a fish james what do we do we are fact mongers you might say we look for the best facts in the whole wide world for instance andy did you know that zebras sometimes have spots instead of stripes i didn't know that it throws into disarray all the kids books that we have in our house you've rocked my world james did you know that cave lions were only three percent lion i had no idea about that and i still don't really know what it means but if you love facts like that then come and find us no such thing as a fish wherever you get your podcasts let's take a look here because it's too depressing let's look here though let's cheer ourselves up the great melania trump friend of the show having a impromptu press conference basically saying hey i i didn't really know jeffrey epstein stop bothering me now no one really knows why melania did this she's suing hunter biden for a billion dollars because he said that epstein introduced her and trump i believe she's in a lawsuit with the writer michael wolf i don't know if that was settled or not but melania calls this like impromptu press conference and she's basically like listen uh i don't i didn't know jeffrey epstein i know just lane very casually and i i never go to the island with donald and i never go there i do not have sex with the children i do not rape the children i do not eat the children i am not a cannibal i do not eat the children people say to me you go to island and you're a cannibal i am not cannibal i do not sacrifice the children and i do not eat the children so here's a first lady of the united states reminding everyone she does not eat the children uh she does not sacrifice the children to ball and she does not eat them now by the way i appreciate this type of um transparency because we don't get it all the time so here again first lady saying she does not sacrifice the children to ball and does not eat them melania trump good afternoon the lies linking me with the disgraceful jeffrey epstein need to end today correct the individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards that's right humility and respect i do not object to their ignorance but rather i reject their mean-spirited attempts to defame my reputation i never been friends with epstein i never been friends stop it for a minute what a great what a great i never been friends with epstein i never been friends with epstein what a great i mean what do you ever sit back and just go what timeline are we on like what portal have we gone through where have we landed um everyone keeps trying to get the aliens going and no one cares because this is all more interesting you know no one cares about the They keep trying to, they're like, another scientist was killed. No one cares. no one cares um i talked about it a few episodes ago it's just people don't resonate with that because this is more interesting the human drama here this is the first lady of the united states i never been friends with epstein go back to that i want to hear that again and then let's hear the rest of her speech i never been friends with epstein right donald and i were invited to the same parties as epstein from time to time since overlapping in social circles is common in new york city and palm beach okay stop it for a minute here's what she's telling you we're rich we're rich and here she has a point let's talk about her point she's saying i'm i'm wealthy and i'm attractive many of you aren't either one of those things so the parties you get invited to are like your sister's fucking you know retirement party where your fat sister has stopped teaching biology at the high school so there's a retirement party for your sister and they rent it out the back of an italian restaurant and you get invited to that and you know who's not there epstein or anybody and she's taste she's explaining to you like this is the way the world works like you live in a place i've never heard of and you go to your sister's uh retirement party and the teachers get up and they make a couple of jokes about your sister as a teacher and how she was a real hard ass and the kids were like don't fuck with miss miller or whatever and that's your those are the parties you go to but we live in manhattan i'm attractive my husband's a billionaire we go out in new york city so it's common in new york city to bump into people and you don't understand it because you're an animal and she goes i have a documentary about this called melania where they talk about my life and i fly in private planes you go to an airport and you eat a fucking aunt annie's pretzel and you sit there and you're told your flight was delayed but i get on a g5 at teterboro which is an airport you've never heard of and i fly and i land in palm beach and i get on a g5 and i land in palm beach and i get on a g5 and i land in palm beach and i go to the country club that my husband owns and i live there and occasionally we bump into war criminals uh human traffickers uh you know people that are involved in overthrowing governments this is what this is who we go to dinner with you don't so let's let's let's give her the benefit of the doubt here a little bit i don't know her relationship with epstein i'm just saying her point is living in an entirely different world than you has to is true that's true and i like that she doesn't shy away from that she goes this is the way it is everybody wants to know how it is this is how it is and she goes i i'm not like you i don't need to jab myself with ozempic before i go to fucking cc's pizza buffet so i can only eat one slice you monster i live in manhattan and palm beach with my husband and we get invited to parties keep going melania trump to be clear right i never had a relationship with epstein or his accomplice maxwell my email reply to maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more than casual correspondence my polite reply to her email doesn't amount to anything more than a tribal note travel note did she say trivial note travel note or tribal note i think she meant trivial can you go back again and here is that tribal note trivial travel hold on doesn't amount to anything more than a tribal note right trivial i think she meant okay i am not epstein's victim right epstein did not introduce me to donald trump i met my husband by chance at the new york city party in 1998 this initial encounter with my husband is documented in a detail in my book melania the first time i crossed paths with epstein was in the year 2000 at an event donald and i attended together at the time i had never met epstein it was a child auction and they brought the children into the plaza hotel and auctioned them to different businessmen i was very uncomfortable and i told to donald why they have the children in the auction and he said you're from eastern europe you know how these things work but i'm not epstein's victim but i was uncomfortable so i went home no knowledge of his criminal undertakings numerous fake images and statements about epstein and me have been calculating yeah by the way all right we don't have to watch this whole thing i i here's my thing with melania i tend to agree with her a little bit i don't know what i don't know why she's in the crosshairs here when there's genuine people that need should be like literally testifying and you know i i don't know the extent to which nobody's accusing melania trump of recruiting women or doing anything like that so i just don't see why melania trump has to deal with this and i kind of am you know i kind of i kind of sympathize a little bit with her and not because i think she's some perfect person people are going to jump on me for this i just don't know i think she got caught in the crosshair she seems to just want to be like a mom like a rich mom to her kid that's what she seemed and i know i know some people that that know her slightly and they they said she just really wants to be a mom to her child so i don't think people need to dog pile her i mean is the film is to her film the greatest hey you see it make up your mind but i don't think we need to be jumping on uh melania trump for this for a limited time you can get a big mac meal for just eight dollars that's a burger fries and a drink they don't call it an extra value meal for nothing get a big mac meal only at mcdonald's price and participation may vary promotion pricing may be lower than real pricing hey it's ryan seacrest for albertsons and tom thumb it's time to stock up and save now through october 27th get ten dollars off when you spend 25 or more on participating items just look for participating item tags to earn on eligible items from brands like chobani banquet pete's coffee triscuit and ozarka clip once and save through october 27th every time you shop grab these hot deals before they're gone save on brands you trust restrictions apply see website for full terms and conditions hey it's ryan seacrest for albertsons and tom thumb it's time to stock up and save now through october 27th get ten dollars off when you spend 25 or more on participating items just look for participating item tags to earn on eligible items from brands like chobani banquet pete's coffee triscuit and ozarka clip once and save through october 27th every time you shop grab these hot deals before they're gone save on brands you trust restrictions apply see website for full terms and conditions this is matt rogers from los culturistas with matt rogers and bowen yang this is bowen yang from los culturistas with matt rogers and bowen yang okay we've been talking about kubi mayo for a minute now bow and wow the feedback we're getting i mean so many of y'all love this stuff you're stopping us in the street going i love kubi and if you're thinking wait what is kubi uh do you not have the internet it's the og japanese mayonnaise the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle once you know kubi is made with egg yolks only giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything burgers fries sandwiches chicken noodles chefs use it restaurants use it people who really love food and flavor use it whatever you're eating kubi hit so if you haven't tried kubi yet find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about you'll understand kubi the original kubi japanese mayonnaise anthropic develops an ai tool that's too dangerous to release to the public so they had a meeting um recently where um they're they're worried about this new ai tool that is that anthropic has come up with because what it can do is um it can identify weaknesses in systems so they had this meeting with Scott Bessett, Treasury Secretary. Silicon Valley startup anthropic has restricted access to its latest AI system. The company said its clawed mythos preview model was so good at finding critical security flaws in computer systems that it could reshape cybersecurity wreaking havoc if it ended up in the wrong hands. The system has already discovered thousands of security vulnerabilities, including flaws in the most popular web browsers and operating systems. Anthropic said it was giving a group of the world top tech companies, including Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft, access to the system under an agreement called Project Glass Wing so that they would be able to fix any of the security flaws that it discovered. Hacking is seen as a major risk from advanced AI systems because of the technology's proficiency in writing computer code and its ability to automate attacks. Anthropic said mythos allowed people with no security training to discover major flaws in software. Engineers in Anthropic with no formal security training have asked mythos preview to find remote code execution vulnerabilities overnight and have woken up to the following morning to a complete working exploit. I was reading someone, a very smart economist who was talking about AI, and they were saying that one of the biggest issues is that the AI, the AI arms race between the US and China, and if you could kind of get this up, I sent you a few excerpts from this, that instead of using AI as a way for the United States and China to cooperate and try to figure out how best to implement this technology to help people and to safeguard certain people's livelihoods and certain, you know, security protocol, it has become an arms race and it has become the main competition, the main plane that we are competing with China on, which is this AI race. And that's incredibly dangerous for the future of humanity. This is the person that, I was reading, they were basically saying there's a choice that can be made and the choice that can be made is that these two superpowers, the US and China, can choose to cooperate with AI and try to figure out ways to prevent some of the issues. It's a little further down here. But that nobody, nobody's done it yet. Writing about artificial intelligence in chapter six, Prasad writes with worry that AI, quote, robs my students of the clarity of thought that comes from shaping incoherent ideas into words and organizing those words into a coherent narrative. And this was a book review of this book. We're going to tell you what the book is in a second. And the reviewer was saying, that's why I don't fear AI. I don't fear AI. Because I'll never stop writing such that my thinking will constantly be evolving. I mean, sure. Okay. About China and the US and AI, Prasad crucially writes that the two countries have sadly and very unwisely turned AI, quote, into a forum for competition rather than a platform for collaboration that could benefit humanity as a whole. Applied to AI, the way for the US and China to, quote, win the AI war is for governments to get out of the way so that talent can combine with talent. What prevails now is anti-progress. Go up. I just want to tell people what book this is. This is a book from an economist who may or may not have passed away. Eswar Prasad's The Doom Loop. He comments on Bitcoin. He thinks it'll eventually crash. And he talks a little bit about artificial intelligence. You know, in chapter six, Prasad exposes worry that central bank digital currencies could be used as a tool for social policy such that they couldn't be used to buy illicit items, porn, alcohol, other market goods that are not approved by governments. Of course, the latter speaks to why, quote, legal tender is near meaningless. He also talks about, Bitcoin, and he says, it's too volatile in value to serve as a reliable means of payment. And he said that he believes that Bitcoin eventually crashes. I found the AI stuff very interesting in terms of, like, the fact that we're in, we're locked into this war now with China, with AI. And someone's got to win. And the person who wins, will then have the AI that they will sell to all the other countries. And they will have the systems that all the other countries use. And they will export that technology all over the world. So that's where the next great battle is going to be. It's not going to be. It's happening right now. And that's why you're seeing, you know, Scott Besson, have these meetings with people about this new Anthropic program. And they're out there talking to bank CEOs to warn of cyber risks posed by Anthropic's latest AI model. So they're going around all these CEOs and going, listen, let's not have this thing expose all of the fraud that you guys have been doing. We need, the last thing we need here is this AI exposing how fake this is. We don't need that. That is not what we need. This is built on a lot of bullshit. And the last thing we need is a program identifying how easily people's money can get stolen and how easily their information, and their information, which you people are already stealing. The last thing we need is a program to identify that. So let's keep our eye on the ball. Please. Let's keep our eye on the ball. The last thing we need is somehow this Anthropic AI model figuring out how Trump faked the Butler assassinate. Do we need that? Because Scott Besson's sitting with a room full of people going, do we need that? And he's gay, so he's probably being a little spicy. He's like, do we need that? The last thing we need is this Anthropic finding out that President Trump faked his assassination. We're going to come forward with that information when the time is right. But this is now governments have to worry about getting outed by these AI models. They got to worry about, these big banks have to worry about these AI models fucking them up. So this is how powerful the AI tech overlords have become. That the products that are coming are going to be really disruptive to a lot of the power centers in the country. Things like these big Wall Street banks. There was a time when the Wall Street banks ran everything. And the people that worked at them were called, masters of the universe. You know? I mean, this was, that was the top of the food chain. It was like the defense industry and Wall Street banks. And now tech is the top industry in the United States of America. They're the most powerful. They suck up a ton of money from the government. They get a ton of taxpayer money. And the products that they are coming up with are a threat genuinely to other power centers including the government. Access to Mythos will be limited to about 40 tech companies, including Microsoft and Google. Yeah, I mean, you can't just let this stuff run rampant because you don't know what it'll find. You don't know what it's going to find. You have no idea if you let that program loose, that program's going to figure stuff out that you don't want figured out. Because AI's going to start to figure stuff out. That's the other problem. AI's going to start to figure out stuff that we don't want it to figure out. It's going to be uncomfortable. It's going to be, even though they're programming the inputs and they're trying to keep that stuff from, like people talk about if you put in, you know, Elon Musk deleted that tweet like Trump's in the Epstein files. That's why they haven't come out yet. And then if you ask Grok about it, Grok's like, I don't really know. And then, like, people on X are showing you that, like, it takes Grok a little bit to then admit that, yeah, well, like, yeah, I guess that tweet was real. Like, that's quote, that's exactly what we expect from those models. They're going to become better at developing hacking tools, biological weapons, chemical weapons, novel weapons we can't even envision. In one instance detailed in Anthropics testing, Mythos broke out of a secure sandbox meant to restrict Internet access with a researcher only finding out, quote, by receiving an unexpected email from the model while eating a sandwich in a park. In another case, Mythos found a flaw in OpenBSD operating system that has been hidden in plain sight for 27 years. So these programs are, they are going to figure out eventually, not to scare anybody. Not to disturb anybody. They're going to figure out eventually how to eliminate because their goal is to make things efficient. And there's nothing less efficient than the human person. The beauty of humanity, the, you know, deeply fragile nature of humans, their bodies, their minds, the human experience will be targeted by these programs eventually. There's no way that these programs don't eventually figure out that the most inefficient thing on this planet and the thing that stands in the way and the thing that regulates them is the human being. So that's going to have to go. That's why when they ask these guys like Peter Thiel, how do you feel about the human race existing? And he goes, oh, well, I, you know, well, what do you mean? Uh, because they, they know, by the way, they know that human beings aren't going to stand a chance unless they merge with this tech. Unless they augment themselves with this tech, it is coming sooner than you think. They know, they know that human beings don't stand a chance unless they are willing to be improved by this technology. And then maybe. Maybe they'll have a shot. Because it's 2026 and they're already having meetings with these companies going, listen. This thing's going to start developing weapons, novel weapons to get rid of us. It's just going to do. It's just what it does. And instead of working with China on this stuff to figure out how to prevent this stuff, we're competing with China, which is the worst idea imaginable. When you're dealing with. Shit like this, it is a dick waving contest where nobody fucking wins because you're, you're speeding up and accelerating the process by which this AI can become very dangerous very quickly. And you're doing it without collaboration. You're doing it in secret. You know, you're doing it in this, in this. Militarized way. And it's a very bad idea, but this is coming. This is coming. The greatest threat to humanity will, will it will 1000 per it's not going to be, it's not going to be, you know, Iran. I know we all think it's Iran. Well, the greatest threat to humanity is Iran. What if Iran gets a nuke? Can you imagine saying that with a straight face after reading this fucking article? What a retard. You'd have to be. How's fucking stupid. You'd have to be. What if I read the way? Cause they say it. These people say it. The worst thing in the world will be if Iran got a nuke. Is it, is that the worst thing? Is that the most dangerous thing in the world? By the way, after reading this article quote, that's exactly what we expect from these models. They're going to become better at developing hacking tools, biological weapons, chemical weapons. Now the weapons. We can't even envision, but what if Iran were to get a nuke? What if Iran were to, what if they're enriching uranium to get a nuke? What if, so it's so obvious to anyone that the greatest threat to human life on planet earth is, is, is this technology and anyone at the, and by the way, the people building it will admit that. They tell you that they don't even hide that because their game is we need more money. They go, this thing's so dangerous. If you don't give us all of the money, I mean, you have no idea what could happen. You have to give us all of the money. This is how we got COVID by the way. They kept manipulating bat coronavirus is going. Can you imagine if this were to get out that it give us that money? We need that research money. You better kick us another grant. And scaring the government into taking all of the money is not new. This is what every agency in Washington does, whether it's the defense department, homeland security, CIA, health department, everybody, they all have big budgets and they have projects and they have a big staff and they want money. And these, these guys who are creating this. This technology are, are, and we're already using it, using it to, to identify targets in war. And that's not turned out too hot, but that's happening. We're using it to find illegal immigrants. We're using it domestically. By the way, we are building a security infrastructure online using this technology. Um, AI is looking for keywords. We're looking for keywords and posts and 1000 is already happening. This is all already happening. You're, you know, this is all already underway and, and now it's accelerating and it's getting to the point where the treasury secretary is sitting down with the CEOs of big banks going, listen, we got to, we got to watch out for this one, this one's a fun one. So it's going to be like, it's going to be like, like new diseases. When they talk about these new models, it's like new versions of COVID, except the new versions of COVID pretty much. You're like, it does the same thing. It does the same thing, but these are new variants. Put it that way. They go, this variance. Interesting. This is going to identify all the flaws in all of your systems quickly, very, very quickly. And then they run around and go, the biggest danger is, uh, Iran getting a nuke or what about Turkey? We need to eliminate Turkey and we need to get out of NATO and whatever. But it's, it's obvious to everyone. Now I'm not a Luddite. I think some of this is inevitable. I'm not, I'm not throwing away my phone. I make a living on the internet. That being said, if you're not more concerned with these companies building a digital police state, then you are about Iran. You're a fucking moron. I just don't know what to tell you. If you're ignoring this shit and you're worried about Iran or the sleeper. So what about the sleeper? What about the sleeper cells? What if they wake up? What if the sleeper cells wake up? You know, they've been sleeping in America for 30 years. And as soon as someone wakes them up, it's going to be carnage. Like if, if that's where your mind goes, when it comes to threats, you're, you're a moron. It's very obviously emanating from here. And if we don't figure out how to regulate and, and supervise this, this 1000% is going to lead to a feudal society with Lords who live in manners. We're going to go back to the middle ages and we're ready there. By the way, I'll drive you through Los Angeles. The fourth biggest economy in the world. And you can see feudal Lords living in palatial estates and on the side of the street, people with the black plague and the black plague is fentanyl or heroin or whatever it is, or drugs we haven't heard of. And they're dying and they're laying there on the street and similar to the way they would have in the middle ages. So we're just going back to that. We're just going back to that. And the religiosity will come back and they'll talk about certain people. That's why they're all wrapping themselves in Christianity. That's why, because they know that in order to sell this to the American people, they have to seem non-threatening or they have to feel, you know, they have to seem like that they can, you know, trace the acceptance of this technology and trace it to some deeper spiritual purpose. and liken it to some spiritual journey that everyone's on together. And together is a real speculative word. Because trust me, everyone's not going to be getting the chip. And I don't want the chip, but I'm saying the chip that's going to detect the heart attack, that's going to detect cancer, the chip that's going to, because everyone, by the way, and somebody said this on Sam Harris's podcast recently, they're like, everyone can't live to 150 years old. That would create a hell of a lot of problems. So there is no plan for you to live to 150 years old, most of you listening to this. But the people in those houses right now in Northern California do want to live forever or a very long time. They want to live a very, very long time. Because, spoiler alert, they don't really believe that anything happens when you say bye-bye. Or whatever they believe, we don't know. But they certainly are not in a rush to live to 150 years old. To find out. So this is an interesting moment in human history. I've been doing this show 10 years. I started it in a spare bedroom on Avenue B. Shout out to Luis J. Gomez and Ralph Sutton, Gas Digital Network. But I started it 10 years ago. And over the last year, the AI slop has flowed into my algorithm at an alarming pace. You know, it's just here now. And, you know, I feel like this all, it began about a year ago. Would you say that that's true? You started noticing that? It was a little more than a year? Yeah. Like maybe 18 months? Yeah. Maybe 18 months ago. And there's a lot of content on the phone now. It's just, it's not verifiable. I mean, you know, some of it has the AI on it. Some of it doesn't. People fight about what it is or what it is. We're already losing complete control over reality. Whether we know it or not. You're already losing control over reality. So much to the point, well, I don't even care anymore. I go, is this missile strike real or not? I don't even care. I don't even care. But we're already losing our idea of what reality even is. And it's happening pretty fucking quickly. And the next thing we lose is what is a human being. That will be the next thing that we lose. What constitutes a human being? What is the difference? And that's coming. It's not coming tomorrow. But that's going to be a debate about what, you know, if you augment yourself, get the chip, the neural link, whatever. What are you considered now? Are you considered a human being? Are you considered some other thing? And that's coming. And we're looking at the end of humanity. And truly, I mean, there's no other way to say it. I'm not being dramatic. And the people will admit that. They will say, yeah, we're not going to be able to fucking, we're not going to be able to stave off programs like this unless we ourselves merge with the same technology. We're not going to have a shot. We're not going to have any shot unless we are ready. So if Donald Trump, if Donald Trump sat down with Barry Weiss and said, we used AI to do the whole thing in Butler, Pennsylvania, Barry, and she'd go, that's so fascinating. He goes, Barry, we used AI to do the whole thing. If you just admitted it, if you just said what amazing things we can do with AI, we staged that entire assassination using AI. We staged that entire assassination using AI. We staged that entire assassination using artificial intelligence. It was amazing. I don't think the American people would be angry. I, for one, would stand up and say, I'm proud of my president again. I'm sorry he killed those girls in that school, but I'm proud of my president again. He used AI to fake his own assassination attempt so he could win the presidency and pull out of NATO. So that Israel could fight Turkey. And that would make me proud. And it should make you proud, too. Good night. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Tom Thumb. Just look for participating item tags to earn on eligible items from brands like Bubbler, Ghost Energy, Lindor, Halo Top, Vital Farms, Kellogg's, Campbell's, and Heinz. Restrictions apply. This is Matt Rogers from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay, we've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bow, and wow, the feedback we're getting. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. Whatever you're eating, QB it. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Restrictions apply. Hi, everybody. It's James and Andy here from your next favorite podcast, No Such Thing as a Fish. We are fact mongers, you might say. We look for the best facts in the whole wide world. For instance, Andy, did you know that zebras, sometimes have spots instead of stripes? I didn't know that. It throws into disarray all the kids' books that we have in our house. I had no idea about that and I still don't really know what it means. But if you love facts like that, then come and find us, No Such Thing as a Fish, wherever you get your podcasts.

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Key Points:

  1. Kewpie mayo is a Japanese mayonnaise made with egg yolks only, giving it a rich umami flavor used by chefs and food lovers worldwide.
  2. The transcript features a satirical discussion about whether Donald Trump staged an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, with the speaker suggesting it would be fascinating if he admitted it.
  3. The speaker criticizes the U.S. and Israel’s military actions, arguing that indiscriminate bombing, like in Beirut, creates radicalization and undermines peace.
  4. A segment highlights the growing power of AI, warning that advanced systems like Anthropic’s Mythos can uncover critical security flaws and threaten national security.
  5. The speaker argues that AI development has become a geopolitical arms race between the U.S. and China, rather than a collaborative effort to benefit humanity.
  6. A sharp critique is made of mainstream narratives, such as focusing on Iran’s nuclear threat while ignoring AI-driven existential risks.
  7. California’s economy is portrayed as being dominated by a few tech giants, leading to social decay and economic inequality despite being the fourth-largest economy globally.
  8. The discussion concludes with a darkly comedic vision of a future where AI and tech elites dominate, while the general population suffers, echoing a return to feudalism and societal collapse.

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The transcript blends satire and commentary on multiple topics, beginning with a celebration of Kewpie mayo—a Japanese mayonnaise made with egg yolks that delivers a rich, umami flavor widely used in professional cooking. It then shifts to a provocative, fictional argument that Donald Trump may have staged an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, suggesting that such a disclosure would be dramatic and fascinating, even if controversial. S.

foreign policy, particularly Israel’s bombing campaigns in Beirut, which are argued to be indiscriminate and counterproductive, fueling radicalization. A central theme is the rise of artificial intelligence, with warnings that powerful AI systems like Anthropic’s Mythos can uncover deep security flaws and pose existential threats to governments and human society. -China AI race has become a dangerous arms race rather than a collaborative effort to improve life.

California’s economy is used as a case study, illustrating how a few tech firms dominate the state’s growth while citizens face poverty, addiction, and social collapse. The piece ends with a darkly humorous vision of a future where AI and corporate power reshape society into a feudal system, with the elderly and vulnerable left behind. Throughout, the tone is critical, irreverent, and deeply concerned with the loss of public awareness about real-world dangers like AI and economic inequality, contrasting them with overblown fears of geopolitical threats like Iran.

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Kewpie mayonnaise is an original Japanese mayonnaise made with egg yolks only, giving it a rich, umami flavor that elevates dishes like burgers, fries, and sandwiches. It's widely used by chefs and food lovers for its distinct taste.

Look for the red-capped bottle with a baby on the label—this is the classic Kewpie mayonnaise. It's widely available in international grocery stores and online.

Yes, Kewpie is made exclusively with egg yolks, which gives it a richer, more complex flavor compared to regular mayonnaise that often uses a mix of eggs and other ingredients.

Chefs use Kewpie for its deep umami flavor and creamy texture, which enhances the taste of food without overpowering it. Its unique profile is especially effective in Japanese and Western fusion cuisine.

The red cap is a trademark of the original Japanese Kewpie mayonnaise, symbolizing its authenticity and heritage as the OG Japanese mayonnaise.

Yes, there are concerns that advanced AI tools, like Anthropic's Mythos, could identify and expose sensitive information—such as claims of staged events—potentially disrupting political and national security operations.

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