488 - Bibi, Genghis Khan, & The Decency To Stay Home
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The transcript blends a lighthearted exploration of Kewpie mayo—an egg yolk-based Japanese mayonnaise known for its rich, umami flavor—with sharp, satirical commentary on U.S. foreign policy, particularly its escalation of conflict with Iran. The segment highlights how Kewpie has become a cultural sensation, widely adopted by chefs and food enthusiasts for its unique taste. However, the broader narrative critiques the irrationality and long-term damage of U.S. military actions, such as ground troop deployments in the Persian Gulf, which are seen as destabilizing, economically disastrous, and contrary to effective power projection. The discussion also touches on emerging concerns about AI and surveillance, noting how games like Pokémon Go inadvertently train systems used in delivery robots. A recurring theme is the anxiety of losing control in a rapidly technological world, where data collection and autonomous systems are opaque and unregulated. The hosts satirize the political rhetoric of figures like Netanyahu and Hegseth, portraying them as out of touch and self-serving. The piece concludes with a call for Americans to stay home during global crises, criticizing the hubris of international travel and the potential for further global instability. The tone is both informative and critical, blending food culture with geopolitical satire to provoke reflection on how technology, policy, and human behavior intersect in today’s world.
This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East, that's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East, that's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like,
okay, hold on, I got a new favorite food!
That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Kewpie mayo.
Yeah, it's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.
You've probably seen it at the grocery store.
And this mayo is different.
Mm-hmm, most mayonnaise uses whole eggs.
Kewpie only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor.
It's smoother, deeper, almost buttery.
Once people try it, they start putting it on everything.
Eggs, sandwiches, fries, burgers.
Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really care about flavor use it.
Put it on just about anything.
Then you'll understand.
Kewpie, the original Japanese mayonnaise.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show.
When I die, please make AI videos of me saying crazy shit and causing havoc.
Now, I don't think BB's dead, mind you, but what a great story if he were dead
and he was, like, still causing international incidents while dead.
He's not dead.
From the people I've spoken to, he's not dead.
But it's a good, it's a nice idea that whenever a leader were to die,
now, he's going to die.
Now, I don't think BB's dead, mind you, but what a great story if he were dead.
Now, we just have to sift through things that they put out and wonder,
is this real? Is this not?
This guy's saying Genghis Khan's going to beat Jesus.
That would be so much more funny if he were dead.
If he were dead and then they were sitting there and they go,
BB's got a list of things he wants us to use AI to make him say,
and then one of them is Genghis Khan.
Genghis Khan has the advantage over Jesus because evil wins,
according to Benjamin Netanyahu.
And a lot of people are thinking the guy's dead.
I don't think he's dead, but this is like big speculation.
I've even texted people.
I've said, hey, is this guy dead?
And then people were like, well, we don't think so,
but we don't really know.
And then people are sending you videos back and forth of him
like, yeah, here he is.
This is BB, Netanyahu, still alive, perhaps.
Also wrote The Lessons of History.
Very brief, 100-page book in which he said,
well, history proves that, unfortunately and unhappily,
Jesus Christ has no advantage over Genghis Khan.
Because if you are strong enough,
ruthless enough, powerful enough,
evil will overcome good.
Which side are we, BB?
Stop that for a minute.
Hold on.
Who are we?
Now that we've united with you, who are we here?
Are we Genghis Khan?
What are we?
Are we the, we're not the Jesus side, right?
Tell me exactly what, who are we in this allegory?
What exactly is this?
Continue.
So you have no choice.
But to kill them all.
If you look at the world,
as it is today,
you have to be blind not to see.
Right.
That the democracies, led by the United States,
have to reassert their will to defend themselves.
Against people who aren't threatening.
And to oppose their enemies in time,
while there's still time.
Before the jarring gong of danger
wakes them up.
Did he just say the jarring gong of danger?
Roll that back.
Before the jarring gong of danger
wakes them up and wakes them up too late.
This is where we are now.
The fact that people don't see that,
the fact that a lot of the news media are
harking on.
I mean, this guy,
this, hold on.
This is the drug addict in the house
who's got all the family in the living room going,
everybody accuses me of everything.
Nobody trusts me.
Every time money is missing,
you ask me about it.
My boyfriend,
my friend was in this house for five minutes
and yet you think me and him took your money.
This is insane.
I'm going to move out
and I'm going to move out
because I have been attacked.
The relentless attacks from the people in this house
all the while she's got your money in the pocket.
Like this, I have never seen a more violent person
talk more about the need for peace.
It's the craziest.
I've never in my life,
seen gaslighting like this.
This is the most violent person I've like ever seen.
This guy cannot get out of a war.
They're in wars.
You don't even know they're in.
Ground troops in Lebanon.
He's got guys talking shit to Turkey already.
This guy's so off the chain
and yet he's talking about peace
and Jesus and Genghis Khan
and,
even if you have,
you know,
righteousness with you,
that's not enough.
You got to,
you got to confront the,
all the enemies
and all the enemies
are anyone he thinks is an enemy
or who could become an enemy.
It's the gaslighting of the century.
It is the drug addict in your house.
Every household has a drug addict
who gets on a soapbox
and starts saying,
I cannot believe
I am being attacked.
I am being attacked.
I am being attacked.
I am being accused again.
Again,
of stealing money
from my older sister.
I don't have to take this
just because I've been to rehab five times
and you found the money
in my room
and I don't know who put it there
but it was to frame me.
I will not participate in this.
I've never seen
a person,
because the thing about Bibi Netanyahu
is he's kind of so,
soft-spoken.
You know,
he's not,
I'm not going to say he's unsuspecting
because he's certainly not.
He's been around a bit.
But I mean,
this guy,
he cannot,
there's nothing
that will be enough for him.
And the people that really support this,
the people that are like,
well,
it is in America's interest
to be in an unwinnable war with Iran
and have the Straits of Hormuz closed
and have oil go up
and have,
you know,
potential repercussions financially
and to lose all their relationships
with the Gulf states
and to have the Gulf
pull money out of projects
in Silicon Valley
and Wall Street
and Hollywood
and all these different places
and have our economy go belly up
and have a draft
and then a nuclear war.
It is in America's interest.
And if you suggest otherwise,
you're an anti-Semite and a pig.
Everything I just listed is happening.
It's not like a thing that might happen.
It's literally happening.
We're not in,
get Pete Hegseth up.
This guy,
he's coming out every few days
and going,
we're winning this war
and there's no evidence of that.
Every few days,
Pete Hegseth comes out
and says something more ludicrous
about what we're going to do to the Iranians.
He's like,
we're going to,
we're going to skin them.
And you're like,
well,
we're not doing anything actually.
He said something,
um,
that was,
uh,
he's like,
we,
uh,
we're sharing the ocean with the Iranians.
We're getting,
we're giving them the floor tonight.
Tonight,
they're getting the floor of the ocean.
It's like,
this guy doesn't talk like a secretary of defense.
I'm sorry,
secretary of war,
which I don't know how good he is at.
Um,
and yeah,
I mean,
the whole thing is an embarrassment.
And the reason that America
is not just going to walk away from this
is because,
you know,
it would really show the world that
the American empire is in a stage of terminal decline
and our dollar would probably be in trouble.
Here's Pete Hegseth saying,
we hold the cards,
which by the way,
that means like nukes.
What are the cards?
Pete Hegseth,
everyone friend of the show.
Why are we helping Israel prosecute this war
if they're going to pursue their own objectives?
We hold the cards.
We have objectives.
Good.
Those objectives are clear.
That's right.
What are they?
Stop.
Stop that.
What?
By the way,
by the way,
what the fuck are they?
The objectives are clear.
The only time they went near an objective
was when they said,
I ran,
can't have a nuke.
And everyone was like,
whatever.
Okay.
Do they have a nuke?
Are they close to a nuke?
Cause this guy,
BB has been saying they've had a nuke for 30 years.
Well,
they're enriching uranium.
Okay.
Didn't we bomb?
They're nuclear enrichment sites at Fordow and other places.
We bombed the,
well,
yeah,
but it didn't do enough.
Oh,
so what's the goal here?
Regime change.
Right.
So troops on the ground.
No.
Right.
So regime change.
How would that happen?
Well,
it'd be a popular uprising.
The people of the country.
Yeah.
Which people?
The people that don't like the regime.
Yeah.
Yeah, are they hardliners?
are they more progressive? They'll figure it out. So the people are going to overthrow the
Revolutionary Guard that we can't get rid of. Something like that. Oh, OK, let's let's watch
the rest of Pete here. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Pete Hegseth. And the truth speaks
for itself. I mean, President Trump was very clear about that. Iran has weaponized energy
for decades. Israel clearly sent a warning and POTUS has made it clear, very clear. Iran knows
when you hit Karg Island and you hit military capabilities on Karg Island, which is the only
thing we hit, we can hold anything at issue, anything. The United States military controls
the fate of that country. Iran has the ability to make the right choices. It should not going
forward target Arab allies, Arab countries, trying to create pain, the pain,
that they created themselves. Thank you all very much. I mean. This guy, they should not try to
create pain, the pain that they created themselves. We attacked their country. We killed the leader
of their country. Like during Ramadan, whatever you feel about the dude, I don't want to live in
fucking Iran. But this idea.
That this is like a moral imperative that we need to be out there helping the Iranians set up a new
government whilst a lot of Americans get killed. It's a little ridiculous, little ridiculous,
ridiculous, pretty stupid. Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully, hopefully I'm wrong. Passengers,
trapped in Waymo after a homeless man threatens to kill them for giving money to a robot. This is
an interesting story. It's a human interest story. I think we're going to see more stories like this
that are actually, I think, kind of life affirming and encouraging here just to take a break from
international news. So now here is a people sheltering for their life in a Waymo.
Why are you in the trunk?
I'm trying to figure this out. Like, I'm over here. Yeah, they won't let me out.
Why are you in it?
New at 11 tonight, scary moments in this driverless ride share. This Waymo stop is
raising a lot of questions tonight. How did a stranger end up in the trunk? A woman says she
ordered the driverless taxi for her daughter on Monday in MacArthur Park, and when it arrived,
they noticed the man inside the trunk. Apparently, he'd entered the car after a previous driver left
the trunk open at a drop off. The video has since gone viral.
We did reach out to Waymo for a statement. The company says they are committed to keeping their
riders safe, adding, quote, this experience was unacceptable and we're actively implementing
changes to address this. Give them five off. Give them five dollars off and tell them to fuck off
to fuck off. Listen. Homeless people, there's a natural symbiosis, and I've seen it between
homeless people and robots.
Homeless people and robots are going to really start both of they're going to start building
bonds because they're out late at night. It's true. If you walk down a street, a lot of times
you'll just see homeless people, Waymos and the food delivery robots, and they've created a
community of their own. It's a community of their own. You're in your bed with your head tucked
on your pillow, wondering how you can, you know, buy a cabin somewhere. But homeless people are
out there on the front lines with the robots. The Waymos, the food delivery bots, the homeless
people are negotiating this new reality more than anyone else. So you can't separate them.
Think of think of why this is kind of brilliant. The homeless have been discarded by society,
but everyone soon will be discarded by society. So the homeless people know this and they see
the robots as kind of a justification of their life and their choices. Not to blame homeless
people for it, but the homeless people get very excited.
Excited with these robots. Sometimes they fight with them. Sometimes they'll jump on top of them.
Sometimes they're just really high and they're just kind of staring at each other.
But homeless people are saying, oh, it wasn't just us. Soon they're going to get rid of everybody.
And there's something probably oddly fulfilling. If you're a homeless person in that and freeing.
There's something freeing. If you're a homeless,
person go, well, I'm not going to get a job because everyone on the streets, a robot.
That's really what you have. So you have a lot of homeless people
that are tragically addicted to drugs. Befriending. And some, some, sometimes it's adversarial.
But creating and living in communities with robots in a way that a lot of regular people are not.
You know, so this is really what's happening. In January, Doug
Fuller was riding home from a night out in San Francisco when a man crossed the street in front
of his car, doubled back and began screaming at him. The man punched the car's windows and
tried lifting up the vehicle. He then yelled that he wanted to kill Mr. Fuller and the other two
passengers for giving money to a robot. A taxi driver would have simply driven away, but Mr.
Fuller's vehicle had no driver. It was a waste of money. It was a waste of
We felt helpless, said Mr. Fullup 37, who works in the tech industry. Since autonomous cars started
roaming San Francisco streets almost four years ago, they have elicited an array of reactions
from humans. Angry protests. They've created an unexpected hazard for passengers of self-driving
cars all around the city. So there's going to be homeless people that celebrate these things,
and there will be homeless vigilantes.
There will be homeless vigilantes, and they are the best of us. If you're homeless and still care
about the society enough to fight back, to fight a Waymo, you know, things like that.
You know, I don't condone it. I'm certainly not suggesting it.
But it takes character to be as such. You can't get more marginalized in being homeless.
I know it's hard to be a queer, you know, actor at the Oscars or whatever. I know it's hard.
But imagine being homeless. That's, like, got to be, like, kind of worse.
Now, if that person can muster up enough rage to say we have to fight these machines.
But I don't, you know, I don't know how it's going to go. It's hard to know because the homeless
are the first line of defense.
They are. When the robot, and I don't like any of this, but when the robot police come out,
they're going to get good on the homeless.
It's not something I like saying. And the homeless know that.
When the robot police start patrolling the streets, when Peter Thiel's accountability bots
are unleashed into the downtown streets, they are going to be training on homeless people.
And there will be a room and there will be a closed circuit TV at Palantir or some such company.
And they will all be watching a robot downtown. And that robot will be fighting 20 or 30 homeless
people. And some nights the homeless will win. Some nights the homeless will win and it'll go
on YouTube and we'll watch it. And we'll watch, we'll say the homeless downtown.
Downed an accountability bot. They downed one of the bots in downtown LA. 35 homeless people
attacked it in a coordinated way. Homeless people are just going to start attacking these things in
a coordinated way. They are our first line of defense. They are the minute men.
It's just what's going to happen. This is where society is going very quickly. It's going to
happen. And it's going to happen. And it's going to
It's gonna hit the American streets.
Who's going to fight you?
I think not.
The homeless, the unhoused.
And there'll be thousands more of them at that point.
But that's what's going to happen.
These are going to be the initial clashes.
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This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East.
That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
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Okay, we've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bow.
And wow, the feedback.
We're getting.
I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff.
You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB.
And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB?
Uh, do you not have the internet?
It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise.
The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.
Once you know it, you start seeing it everywhere.
People ask what makes it different from basic mayo.
Well, the answer, egg yolks.
QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates
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Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it.
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Whatever you're eating, QB it.
So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking
about.
You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise.
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We've been talking about this for a long time.
We've been talking about Kewpie mayo for a minute now, Bow.
And wow, the feedback we're getting.
You're stopping us in the street going, I love Kewpie.
And if you're thinking, wait, what is Kewpie?
Do you not have the internet?
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Chefs use it.
Restaurants use it.
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So if you haven't tried Kewpie yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about.
You'll understand.
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So now everyone's complaining to me about these airports.
They're getting really, really bad because what's going on?
Is it the TSA?
Is it government shutdown?
Nobody, the TSA has had enough.
Stop screening people.
You want to hear it?
You want to hear a solution?
Stop screening them.
Get on the fucking plane.
Whatever happens, happens.
If you want to go to Phoenix that much, just get on the fucking plane.
Who cares?
The cockpit door is locked.
Who gives a shit?
A couple of people might fucking have a bomb.
You want to wait in line or do you want a chlorine bomb to go off an hour outside of Orlando?
It doesn't matter.
Just get on the plane.
Security lines snake out of more terminals as TSA goes unpaid.
Well, this is the government shutdown thing.
Stop traveling.
I don't know what to tell you people.
Find a place.
Find a place.
Find a place that you like and stay there for a minute.
This is not exactly the time to be gallivanting all over the world.
Are you going to be an American tourist right now?
You psychopath?
We're destabilizing the globe.
What kind of psychopath are you going to be right now?
You're going to go to Italy and tell them why they're fucked because we're attacking Iran?
And we've driven the price of oil up and everything's gone insane.
Have the decency to not inflict yourself on the rest of the world at this point.
Do you think anyone wants you?
Does anyone want the American tourist right now telling people how it is?
Oh, it's the ugly American here who's blowing up the world with Israel, everyone's other favorite country.
Oh, good.
It's America.
And Israel.
Israel, everyone's favorites.
Everyone's favorites.
Tell them where the best cheese shop is.
It's America and Israel.
You know, us in Israel right now are like just two junky meth heads the town has had enough of.
The town has had enough of this behavior.
I mean, us in Israel, we have, this is, nobody is successful.
Excited right now to hear anything about the United States or Israel.
No one in this world wants to hear about that.
Sorry, nobody wants to hear about that right now.
So instead of getting on a plane to Scotland,
so you can go tell everyone that you're from America
and how important it is that the Ayatollah had to get whacked during Ramadan
and that they should look out for more refugees
and more terrorist attacks in their countries.
That's coming soon.
Just tell them, go, during our destabilizing of the world,
we've all decided we want to travel.
We've all decided we want to travel after lighting the fuse
that might lead to World War III.
We've decided we always wanted to see Edinburgh.
We wanted to try.
We wanted to have high tea at the castle
after we've lit the fuse
that might start World War III.
Have the decency to stay in your home for Christ, please.
No one wants to see your fucking face.
Or mine.
No one wants to see us right now.
What the fuck are you going to go to Spain and drink wine in the park
and be like, well, Israel has the right to defend itself.
No one wants this shit.
A bunch of fat American fucking psychopaths invading your country.
to tell you about that Israel needs to attack 19 other countries?
You guys should really help us with this straight-forward moose.
They're going to start kidnapping Americans in these countries
and killing them publicly, and they won't be wrong.
They're going to start kidnapping Americans out of their hotels
and throwing them in the fucking, in the middle of the street
and lighting them on fire.
We're literally destabilizing the world, okay?
We're destabilizing the planet Earth, like, in a major way.
And Americans' main concern right now is how they can get their fat ass
on a cruise to one of the other countries who were also fucking
in the process of this, by the way.
It's the thing about Americans.
We'll never not. We'll never not travel.
We don't care.
We'll nuke Iran.
We'll start a nuclear exchange, and then we'll get on a flight to Paris.
We don't care.
We will straight-up bring the world to nuclear Armageddon,
and then we will go and take a tour of a winemaking vineyard in Italy.
We don't care.
Can you imagine just being the American abroad right now?
Like, I have a friend who just booked a solo trip to Europe,
and he's young and attractive, and it's like, whatever.
And he doesn't look American.
Big help.
Can you imagine being the American right now, like, on vacation?
Hey!
Do you have any ketchup?
We just bombed Lebanon!
We're going to bomb everyone!
Maybe even you!
Nobody wants it.
Nobody wants this stuff.
Nobody wants it.
Yes, anti-Semitism is bad.
We know this, but we cannot call every criticism of this war anti-Semitic.
We can't call every criticism of Israel's influence on our politics anti-Semitism.
This is silly.
The people that are trying to make this case that this is, like, a necessary war,
they're really having a hard time with it.
They're really having a tough time.
When you listen to them, they're like,
well, the thing is about, like, Iran is that, you know,
they've always been an antagonist,
and they've always been trying to kill Americans,
and they say death to America.
They say really bad things.
And so I think it's important that we confront them.
They fund proxy armies,
and there's not. There's not one actual actionable, like,
if we didn't do this, we'd be fucked.
So this is an interesting story.
This is about Pokemon Go.
Pokemon Go players unknowingly trained a 30 billion image AI map,
which is now powering Cocoa food delivery robots.
Now, I love the food delivery robots.
I don't love Cocoa as much.
I love the other kind with the googly eyes.
Cocoa's fine.
Cocoa has eyes, too.
I just think the design sucks.
Now, I used to remember people were playing Pokemon Go in New York City,
and I would say. I would, like, watch them play Pokemon Go,
and they'd be like. These would be grown adults,
and they'd be running around, like, the C train in New York,
and I'd go,
hey, guys, what are you doing?
And they'd be like,
there's one over there.
And I was like, what?
And they explained to me that they were chasing
these imaginary Pokemon all over New York City,
and this was, you know, at the height of my. Mother Schizophrenia,
and I just thought it was interesting,
you know, what the breaking point is in anyone's mind.
But this was a game where
people were just trying to collect all different Pokemon.
However, the company Niantics,
as it photos and scans collected through Pokemon Go,
and its augmented reality apps
have produced a massive data set
of more than 30 billion real-world images.
Well, yeah.
The company. The company is now using that data
to power visual navigation for delivery robots,
letting them identify exact locations on city streets
without relying on GPS.
I mean, so these are the new. The new. Any new game that comes out,
any new game that comes. What Pokemon Go did Israel have
before the Gaza genocide, by the way?
You know they had one.
Every new game will end in some AI map,
and some type of, you know, attack grid.
This new augmented reality game
has led to a new targeting system.
I mean, that's what it's going to be.
You're going to participate
in a relatively harmless, silly game
from a company that you've never heard of
or know very little about,
and then you will. You will have unwittingly mapped out
an area for drone strikes
where people can be killed.
What's going to happen?
That's how they're going to do it.
Just little fun games, little quick games,
little silly games,
and then you're going to go,
well, that's funny.
I've now participated
in some type of
infrared targeting map.
So we know what installations to be
need to go.
So that's what's going to happen.
You know, I mean, it's just something
that you're going to have to. You're just going to have to weigh it.
You're going to have to weigh it.
Maybe the game's fun.
Maybe the game's fun,
and you have to weigh it.
You go, I wonder what this is being used for, actually.
You'll be playing it with a bunch of people, you know?
You'll be playing some augmented reality
Harry Potter game,
and you're going to go,
interesting, I wonder what this is really for.
And they'll, you know,
it's all facial recognition
and geolocating and everything.
What are you going to do?
You can't avoid it.
This is a lot of what we're seeing
with this stuff right now.
This is coming on very strong.
And I wanted to talk about this
because it is coming on very strong.
There is a inevitability to this,
and I think a lot of people,
there's an unspoken
anxiety
in the air.
And that anxiety, I think,
is directly related to
the fact that we're being ushered
into this new world
without much of an understanding
of its costs
or its benefits.
And it's completely
and utterly inevitable.
We don't really have
any say
in what happens next.
And there's an anxiety
to that.
It's one of the reasons
you are more anxious
on a plane than in a car.
In a car, statistically,
you're much more likely to die.
But in a plane,
you have no control
over what happens.
So you're sitting there
and there's turbulence,
there's a storm,
there's a rough landing,
and you're trusting two people
you've never seen,
never heard of,
and of course,
the equipment and the machine.
And I think there's an anxiety
in our culture right now
where people go,
we don't have a say.
We don't exactly
get a vote
on what happens next.
How quickly these jobs
are eliminated.
What the privacy rights
embedded into these systems are.
What type of,
how much of our
social life
is going to be
orchestrated
by these?
How much of our
financial life
will be dependent on this?
How much of our security
is going to be dependent
on all this stuff?
And it doesn't help
that whenever any of the people
that run these companies
come out,
they're talking about Satan
or they're being accused
of killing someone
who worked for them.
You know,
no one feels great about this.
No, you know,
there's no like,
where's,
where's like the AI
Dave Thomas?
Remember Dave Thomas?
He had a daughter
and he fed her burgers
and they had a thing
called Wendy's
and people trusted him.
Dave Thomas,
a chubby guy
and he'd say,
Wendy likes her bacon
or whatever.
I don't remember what it was,
but the point is this.
You trusted Dave Thomas.
Where the fuck
is Dave Thomas?
Sam Altman's not doing it.
Peter Thiel's not doing it.
Where is AI's Dave Thomas?
An old folksy guy
that goes,
don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
You're geomapping a,
a map that's going to be used
to help people.
Isn't that good?
Is,
don't you want the robots
to see where they're going
so they can bring you
the medicine?
You go,
oh, interesting.
They're going to be bringing us medicine
and among other things.
That's what AI needs desperately.
It needs desperately
some type of a spokesperson,
that everyone isn't automatically completely disturbed by?
Is there one person in that industry
that can function as a spokesman
that we're not all completely and utterly horrified by
within several minutes of them opening their mouth?
Every figure in that world from Zuckerberg,
everyone on down in the tech world is horrifying.
So what they need, play an old, get an old Wendy's commercial.
Just play us.
This is what people want.
Yeah, play this one.
The road leading to Wendy's next great chicken sandwich is a hard one.
Fraught with disappointments
and dead ends.
But when you're Dave Thomas
and you're starting with Wendy's whole breast filet,
you don't give up.
I think I'm onto something.
Introducing Wendy's mozzarella chicken supreme
and all white meat filet, mozzarella
and a creamy parmesan sauce.
One bite and you'll jump up and say,
gee, this is pretty good.
Exactly.
Come try one today.
You trusted him.
You trusted him.
You felt good with him.
You trusted the man.
And he was, he's in the kitchen.
He's making,
he's making mistakes.
It's not easy.
And he's saying,
we went through a lot of different formulas here to find the,
whatever it was, mozzarella, parmesan thing.
But don't you want,
now could you play Sam Altman for a minute?
Just any, by the way,
anything he's ever said.
Just, just hit Sam Altman and hit video.
Anything Sam Altman's ever said.
Let's compare this.
Here we go.
Here he comes.
Their model provider.
Is going to look like selling tokens.
You know, they may come from bigger or smaller models,
which makes them more or less expensive.
They may use more or less reasoning,
which also makes them more or less expensive.
They may be running all the time in the background,
trying to help you out.
Uh, they may run only when you need them.
If you want to pay less,
they may work super hard,
you know, spend tens of millions,
hundreds of millions of someday billions of dollars on a single problem.
Right.
That's really valuable.
But we,
we see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us,
um,
on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for the demand that we see for that.
Now, by the way,
now,
now,
by the way,
very disturbing statement.
It's about the end of the,
you know,
of course it's all about human obsolescence and humans not needing to think or whatever.
And then eventually they'll have to figure out how to kill them all.
But think about a Dave Thomas type selling that be a little better.
Dave Thomas being like sometimes being smart takes it out of you.
Sometimes being sharp takes it out of you,
but we're building a real smart machine.
It's going to be the smartest machine you've ever met and your best friend.
And if you need a little bit of smarts,
well,
you can just buy it.
I'm Sam.
Altman.
Boom.
Open AI.
Sometimes you don't feel like being a smarty pants.
You just want to buy intelligence from our big friendly machine.
Our machine's brilliant.
But instead,
this guy's like intelligence as a utility.
You will buy it from us on a meter.
You will live when we say you will consume what we allow you to consume.
We are the government.
There is no government.
What is the problem?
The government is an illusion.
Capitalism.
Capitalism is a scam.
It is fine.
No one at my company who died did so in any way that could be considered suspicious,
even though they are kind of suspicious.
They need a Dave Thomas.
They need a flow from progressive.
These people,
they're not doing themselves any favors.
They're not helping themselves.
This is Matt Rogers from Las.
Culture Estas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
This is Bowen Yang from Las.
Okay, we've been talking about Kewpie Mayo for a minute now, Bow.
You're stopping us in the street going, "I love Kewpie."
And if you're thinking, "Wait, what is Kewpie?"
Do you not have the internet?
People ask what makes it different.
What's different from basic mayo?
Kewpie is made with egg yolks only,
giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor
that elevates everything.
Chefs use it.
Restaurants use it.
You'll understand.
Kewpie.
The original Japanese mayonnaise.
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Uh, do you not have the internet?
The one with the red cap and the little baby.
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Okay, we've been talking about CUPE mail for a minute now, Bow, and wow, the feedback
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You're stopping us in the street going, "I love CUPE," and if you're thinking, "Wait,
what is CUPE?
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I just don't understand.
Let's listen to Trump here talk about, God help us, Cuba?
Go on.
I think Cuba, I don't know, in its own way, if you're, you know, tourism and everything else,
it's a beautiful island, great weather. They're not in a hurricane zone.
By the way, this is a boomer. This is a boomer running the country. This is what it is like when
a boomer runs the country. This is what a boomer running the country feels like, invading countries,
going there. They could be, this could be a nice spot for tourism. That's exactly what most boomers
would be doing. They could be, they could be, they could be a nice spot for tourism.
They'd be asking their, the Joint Chiefs what countries would make the best resorts. Let's
continue here.
They won't be asking us for money for hurricanes every week. But, but I think Cuba's seen the end.
You know, all my life I've been hearing about the United States and Cuba. When will the United
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That'd be good. That's a big honor.
Taking Cuba.
Taking Cuba in some form, yeah. Taking Cuba. I mean, whether I free it, take it, I think I could do
anything I want with it. You want to know the truth? They're a very weakened nation right now.
They were for a long time. Very violent, very violent leaders.
Everybody's telling him that all these nations are weak. And I don't know anything about Cuba,
really. So I'm not commenting on it. But you know what? Iran was very weakened,
too. Iran was a very weakened nation. Now the Straits of Hormuz are becoming a like unsolvable
problem. Now we're playing around with the ground invasion of this Karg Island, which is where their
energy infrastructure is. We're thinking about ground troops. Can you get something up about
this ground troops on Karg Island or something like this?
People are thinking that we're in an escalatory war that cannot end without us
admitting we've made a tremendous kind of mistake here and then retreating.
This is going to redesign the balance of power in the Middle East.
It's certainly going to push more power to Israel and away from the United States.
Gulf allies are going to be
incredibly affected by this. They've been affected by it, but it's going to even get worse.
Dubai is panicking. A lot of the luxury brands that are in Dubai are panicking.
And this is probably going to push a lot of people towards the relative stability of China.
And this is good. This is like a geopolitical mistake on a massive scale. It's not simply
going into.
A majority Muslim country, which is a bad idea, but there's also a geopolitical ramifications now
that it's driving up the price of oil. It's going to hurt the US dollar. It's going to hurt
our relationship with many of our allies in the Middle East. It's laid bare that our military,
while amazing, you know, is not able to just go in there and take out Iran after, you know,
selling weapons to the Ukraine and Israel for the last four or five years.
Trump is talking about seizing Iran's Karg Island. But what would that look like? Probably not good.
He's also weighing a seizure of Iran's critical depot on Karg Island, a move that would require
US boots on the ground if tankers remain bottled up in the Persian Gulf, US officials say.
Oil and gas prices are rising as Iran's blockade of the Gulf's narrow strait
drags on, choking off a significant share of the world's crude oil.
Iran is blocking Gulf countries from exporting their oil while allowing tankers picking up
Iranian crude to pass freely, keeping its own oil flowing to China and other countries.
As long as the blockade holds and Gulf oil is restricted,
Trump could not end the war even if he wanted to, a source with knowledge of the situation said,
well, of course he can. Of course he can't now because we've made this is a geopolitical disaster.
It's a global economic disaster. Like all these dummies that are talking about why this is a good
idea and it breaks down to some version of Iran is bad. They're bad. Whatever.
But this is a geopolitical nightmare now. It's an economic catastrophe. And the people,
these like dumb, you know, you know, maybe well-meaning, maybe not.
People that are trying to justify this as anything other than a strategic blunder
are all being exposed as like shills. You know, people that are just, you know, completely
and utterly out of the loop. This is not how you project power. You don't project power by,
by getting your allies attacked and making a big mess of everything. You project power by
by not invading a country, not getting stuck at a stalemate, not having the price of oil skyrocket
and not getting your allies attacked. That's how you project power. And that power that you keep
and you reserve is for when you are in a war, an aggressive war that was, that you're confronted
with, or there's something that's literally something you, you have to deal with. But a war
of choice is a war of choice. And that's how you project power. It's a war of choice, largely at the behest of a foreign power, if not completely,
where you're jeopardizing the entire region and the global economy is not a way to project power.
It is the way a dying empire spits and sputters out anyone with any level of intelligence. And
I'm a community college dropout, but they'll tell you that this is not the way an empire
projects power. This is how they fall. This is how they spin out where you have people without
any justification running around talking about how well we're doing gaslighting the public.
Our government's completely dysfunctional and everybody knows it. And most of the people know
it. There's small groups of them that, you know, continue to believe whatever. And I don't,
I don't care. You know, if you look at the polls, there's probably more people that believe
you know, the things that people are saying than I am potentially than I would think it's a little
disturbing, but that's fine. I have friends like that. They don't care. Iran's bad. You know what
they do to women? I, yeah, I hate it. How's this going to help? You're going to get a more hardline
guy. Now you're going to get a more hardline guy, or you're going to get a nuclear exchange,
or you're going to get Israel, the U S somebody's going to use Israel. Maybe, I don't know. You
use nuclear weapons. Um, then you're going to get a generational religious war for the rest of our
time on earth, which might be short. And this is what we're going to get because all the neoliberal
retards that run around cities like New York and LA, but here to a lesser extent, because they're,
they're, they're too stupid here, which is a bull fucking blessing. Um, all of these people that are
they think the world is still America's play thing. They think the world is still America's play thing
because they've gotten so used to gambling on the blood of other people's children and other
people's money and the debt that future generations will pay back. So they still flex for lack of a
better word that we own this world. And who the fuck does Putin think he is? We'll go over there
and fuck them up. No, we won't. No, we won't. So you can share the globe.
Or you can perish, you know, or the system can collapse under its own weight. It's pretty obvious
to everybody. All these people that talk like America, well, there's a lot of people that want
to see America's power diminished in the world. The people that are pushing this war, whether they
know it or not, have done more to diminish America's standing in the world than anyone I have ever seen
in my life.
we're in a terribly difficult position right now
and in a very public way.
In a very public way.
With very few, if maybe no, good solutions.
So the idea, and I've heard people say things like this
about American power and history and all this stuff.
They are drunk on the early 2000s.
They are drunk on regime changes in places like Syria
that they didn't pay attention to, or Libya, things like that.
It's sended floods of refugees and destabilized the political situation
in the economy of Europe, but Americans don't care about that.
They don't give a shit about that.
The effects of those wars haven't really been,
they haven't seen that here as of yet.
The way they've seen it in Italy, UK, Ireland, France, whatever.
So you have a bunch of people talking about American power
and the need to exert.
American power and confront countries like Iran.
And the irony of it is that actually you've done,
this is the complete opposite.
The result will be the complete opposite of what you say it will be.
It will be the destruction of American power.
It'll send a signal around the world that our military is overextended.
And that, you know, without using unconventional weapons,
we can't do this the way we thought we would do it.
And no one in our country wants that.
Nobody wants us to lose.
I don't want a single life to be lost.
But now we're in this situation where it's a black mark on our name.
If we lose, we walk away, whatever.
But I don't know what winning is.
Pete Hegseth doesn't know what winning is.
None of them know what winning is.
No one's explained to us what winning would even look like.
So you have to be careful.
You have to be careful out there.
And don't, and please, don't travel.
Have the decency, I'm going to ask you now.
Have the decency.
Sit your American ass home.
While we destroy the globe,
I'm going to ask you, go to Vermont.
I'm going to ask you,
do not show up at a country and huff and puff
in the lobby of a hotel
and be the entitled American
until we've gotten out of this thing.
There's nothing the world wants less.
There's nothing the world wants less, by the way.
And if you're going to go somewhere,
go to Dubai and get bombed and spend money.
Take a missile and spend a buck.
Because they're the fucking, our Gulf states,
whether you like them or not,
they're a little silly,
couple of too many lip injections, whatever.
But if you want to do a good thing for an American ally,
if you're going to go on a trip,
you go to fucking Qatar.
You go to Dubai and get a lip filler.
Go get your Botox done in Dubai.
Go buy a Gucci bag in Dubai.
If you're a fucking patriot,
go to Dubai.
Go to Dubai or Qatar.
Go to one of these Gulf ally states
that's taken a whole lot of shit
because we went into this.
Don't go to Spain.
Don't go to France.
Don't do that.
Don't go to Italy.
Stay away.
Stay away.
Have the decency.
And I know it's not your fault.
It's not our fault.
But let's have the decency
while we're blowing up the entire world.
To just take a beat.
It's just fair.
It's just fair.
Nobody wants to hear you
in the back of the cafe being like,
you know, the Ayatollah was really bad.
Because then they're going to throw acid on you.
Because they're paying a lot more for
for the Saudi side.
They're paying a lot more for the black gold
for the juice.
Because our government's gone nuts.
Anyway,
that's my message this week.
Stay home.
Hopefully cooler heads prevail.
Get ready for the real fight.
Get ready for the,
get ready to take up arms
with homeless people
and confront robots
in the desert.
In the deserted downtowns of your cities.
Don't go to Spain.
Don't go to Spain.
You don't get tapas.
How about that?
Your government's blowing everyone up.
No tapas.
Good night.
I mean, so many of y'all love,
love this stuff.
Chefs use it.
Restaurants use it.
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You know when you try new food,
and suddenly it's like,
wait, how did I not know about this?
Ryan Seacrest here.
That's how people are reacting to Kewpie mayo.
The one with the red cap
you've probably seen on TikTok.
What makes it different?
Egg yolks.
Kewpie uses egg yolks only,
giving it this rich umami flavor
that elevates just about anything.
Chefs use it.
Restaurants use it.
Food lovers use it.
You never tried it?
Find the red cap
and see what everyone's talking about.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Kewpie mayo, made with egg yolks only, has a rich, umami flavor that appeals to chefs, restaurants, and food lovers, who use it on burgers, fries, sandwiches, and more.
The red-capped, baby-on-bottle Kewpie is widely recognized as the original Japanese mayonnaise and has become a cultural phenomenon through social media and food communities.
A prominent segment of the discussion critiques the U.S. foreign policy stance toward Iran, describing it as a geopolitical and economic disaster that risks global instability and undermines American influence.
Critics argue that leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu and officials such as Pete Hegseth promote an aggressive, irrational war narrative that lacks clarity, strategic sense, and long-term vision.
The conversation highlights a growing anxiety about AI, surveillance, and loss of control—especially as augmented reality games like Pokémon Go unknowingly generate data used to train delivery robots.
A satirical tone emerges around how American actions, especially foreign interventions, are being perceived as destabilizing and offensive to global communities.
The segment draws attention to the rise of "homeless vigilants" who may confront autonomous vehicles, portraying them as early frontline fighters in a society increasingly shaped by technology.
The host urges Americans to stay home during global crises, criticizing the hubris of international travel while the world faces potential nuclear or economic collapse.
Summary:
S. foreign policy, particularly its escalation of conflict with Iran. The segment highlights how Kewpie has become a cultural sensation, widely adopted by chefs and food enthusiasts for its unique taste.
S. military actions, such as ground troop deployments in the Persian Gulf, which are seen as destabilizing, economically disastrous, and contrary to effective power projection. The discussion also touches on emerging concerns about AI and surveillance, noting how games like Pokémon Go inadvertently train systems used in delivery robots.
A recurring theme is the anxiety of losing control in a rapidly technological world, where data collection and autonomous systems are opaque and unregulated. The hosts satirize the political rhetoric of figures like Netanyahu and Hegseth, portraying them as out of touch and self-serving. The piece concludes with a call for Americans to stay home during global crises, criticizing the hubris of international travel and the potential for further global instability.
The tone is both informative and critical, blending food culture with geopolitical satire to provoke reflection on how technology, policy, and human behavior intersect in today’s world.
FAQs
Kewpie mayo is made with egg yolks only, giving it a rich, umami flavor that is smoother and deeper than traditional mayonnaise, which often uses whole eggs.
You can find Kewpie mayo at most grocery stores, typically in the condiment section, identified by its red cap and a baby on the bottle.
People use Kewpie mayo on burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, and in various dishes where a rich, buttery flavor is desired.
Yes, many chefs and restaurants use Kewpie mayo for its intense flavor and versatility, especially in dishes where a bold, umami-rich element is needed.
Kewpie mayo is the original Japanese mayonnaise, developed in Japan and known for its unique egg yolk-based formulation and rich taste.
Its rich, buttery, umami flavor is unlike regular mayonnaise, creating a strong and memorable taste experience that often leads to a new favorite food.
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