484 - Epstein, Wexner, & The Great Silverware Heist
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The host shares insights from attending a Snow Strippers concert in LA, where he met a diverse group of fans, including trans furries and goth Mexican youth, who were warm and appreciative of his presence. He notes how, despite being an outlier in appearance and demeanor, he was accepted and even celebrated, especially by those who see authenticity and vulnerability as valuable. He reflects on how personal relationships evolve over time, with older age bringing more emotional distance and a tendency to dismiss people who don’t align with one’s values. He critiques cultural tropes such as the over-the-top "white black guy" dynamic, calling it performative and disrespectful, especially when it undermines Black contributions to American culture. The host also addresses broader societal concerns: the lack of representation in media, the manipulation of public narratives (such as the Iran threat narrative), and the growing sense of disillusionment with mainstream institutions. He argues that while people may feel hopeful, the world’s trends—like extreme wealth concentration, geopolitical tensions, and declining social cohesion—create a sense of dread. Despite this, he remains committed to truth-telling and personal authenticity, emphasizing that real connection comes not from grand gestures, but from shared vulnerability and mutual understanding. He dismisses the Olympics as a frivolous spectacle and finds little value in celebrity or athletic triumphs, instead focusing on deeper human experiences and the absurdity of societal performance. Ultimately, he believes that meaningful change requires honest acknowledgment of deception and systemic flaws, not just surface-level positivity.
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Tim Dylan show. I apologize that I am late. The episode is late. I went to a show list and in L.A. I went to these snow strippers concert. I don't know anything about the snow strippers. A friend of mine is a manager in the rap world, the underground rap world, the like young people. And he was like the snow strippers are a thing. Have you heard of the snow strippers? So you have. Okay. And it was uh, people were messaging me. You're at a snow strippers? Okay. First of all, yeah, yeah, I am. So what? But I didn't know who they were. And a lot of their fans were seem to be very lovely people. They were kind of furries and kind of goth Mexican furries, uh, trans and great. Love it. Go to the concert. Stop with the shooting. But yeah, I mean like, you know, that's the thing. Trans furries just go to the concert. You know what I mean? Like, the shooting if that's what happened. And that's a whole nother thing. But we're getting, we're getting sidelined. We're getting sidelined. Because frankly, let's be honest. A lot of us don't, including me. I don't think it was that. But whatever, whatever moving on. But a lot of their fans and I had trans furries coming up to me, which was nice saying, thank you for your work literally. And there was a few trans furries that took photos with me and said, thank you for what you do. And I think the trans furry kind of Mexican golf community, uh, in small parts, in small numbers, it wasn't a million people. But in small numbers, I think are starting to warm to me. You will come to me eventually no matter what segment you're in. You will find the program eventually, no matter what segment you're in. I will start to make sense as you go through life. It doesn't matter that you have to, uh, Fox hat honor, whatever that woman who came over to me last night had could have been a cat. Doesn't matter. Again, we're off track. I will start making sense to you at a certain point in your life. You can't fight it. I know many people want to fight it. And they fought it for decades. I bump into people and they're, they make, they make faces. And they're fighting it. And they're like, that guy, but eventually I will wear you down with, with, with logic and charisma. There's nothing you can do. And I realized that last night with the lovely snow strippers fans, I thought fake Mink was going to be there. And I didn't know who that was until four days ago. And I started listening to fake. Do you know who fake Mink is? See, I got you, at least from the UK. And I thought fake Mink was going to be there. But fake Mink wasn't there. And then I, one of the, one of the other people was like, yeah, fake Mink's not on this. But it's every now and then I'll go, every now and then I'll go to an underground rap show in LA or not even underground. But like, I don't know a weird thing. And people are shocked. Like, you'll see people look at me and do a double take. It's like crazy to see me in that environment because I'm dressed kind of like the way I'm dressed. But I dress insane anyway. So I, I kind of dress like I might be there because like, you, these young people see me. And I think the, the word is unc. That's the parlance. And they see me like, what is that? Now some of them don't know who I am. A lot of them, most of them. But then occasionally you will see someone there. And then there's people there that are like older to me who are clearly just trying to kidnap people. That's an interesting segment. I'm there because I was invited by some guy who's a manager that I'm friends with now. But I, I then look at people that are like older than me, like straight up dad energy, but creepy dad who are in a button up shirt and glasses like a serial killer. And then there's just a bunch of Mexican transferries. And I'm like, well, he's trying to scoop one of them up and bring him to the court. There's no, but I guess that's the way it is. That's the way it is. There was a few people and I was kidding around. It's my manager friend who's a new friend. But I like him because he's, you know, he's like, oh, he's a fun, like, I like if you get a good white black guy, it's great. Like that archetype of guy. But the white, by the way, I've been having a lot of issues with the white black guy recently only because it's so over the top. I was in Vegas. I was having lunch at true food kitchen. This white guy approaches the table and you know what it's going to be immediately. You know, it's white black guy, but not in a way that you can like, he's like, what a perr, like he's made player. Maybe it's Southern white black guy that's really bothering me. But whatever he was doing, it was so over the top. And he was very happy. And he was like, what a perr? What a perr? And I was like, oh, God, this is doing this. It was one of those things where he's like, like you would order the lunch and then he was like, bro, I couldn't forget this on. I, I'll finnigate you ketchup, but it's fully white, fully white guy finnigate you ketchup. What a perr? It was just too much. It was awkward and it was too much. But if it's tastefully done, and this guy tastefully done white black guy, I think it's an attractive quality. If it's tastefully done, if the white black guy is done in a tasteful way, where it's not so over the top and silly, where it's like insane. What true food kitchen, by the way, worst restaurant in America, disgusting, tasteless crap, sue me. Oh, it's, it's so good for you. It's not and it's terrible. Have you been there? It's a restaurant dedicated to like in everything's in an air fryer, but it's not good. And they pretend it's like American restaurants should just not even attempt to be healthy. They don't even know how to do it. They should just try to kill you. If you're going to be healthy, buy the food, cook it. If you go out to eat in this country, you should go out knowing that the restaurants are actively trying to kill you. And any restaurant that goes, we're actually only trying to wound you. They're also trying to kill you. They're trying to, so there's true food kitchen that hired this sweet guy probably two months out of prison, rehab, whatever. And it was just a white black guy energy I couldn't get with because it was so over the top I'm finna get you ketchup and I ain't trying to get you charged for this ketchup. I ain't trying to get you charged for this ketchup. And I was like, "Listen, can we just, yo, I heard you from New York. I got people there." And I was like, he's like, "I'll be around there sometimes." That's what he said. He goes, "Yo, you from New York, I'll be around there sometimes." I go, "Hey man, I just, I just, I mean, I just want the baked chicken finger here." But this white black guy that I'm now friends with is, it's, it's, it's, it's classy. It's done well. I think it's important that it's just done well. Now, if it, if it starts to go overboard, I'll have to, like, I'll have to, like, I'll have to detach. But I'm very excited because right now this white black guy who I didn't think I would like because my, another mutual friend brought him to my studio. I was like, this guy's cool. And I'm like, ugh, because I, most people, I really, I really, truly, this is what happens at 41. Most people, it's tedious to even talk to them or be near them or around them. And I don't want to sound like I'm an anti-social hermit. I'm not. I force myself to suffer through this. The people in my life, agents managers, business managers, assistants, personal friends, family, it gets harder and harder. The yolk that binds you together, it just isn't as much of a connective tissue as you get older. People in your life, some of them, and now maybe you don't have this experience and bless you. I know I was accused the other day of being so negative on this show. Love and light to everyone who doesn't have this experience. God bless you. Love it, love it. But as you get older, it is harder to tolerate people, especially new people, at least with old people. You go, I know what I hate about you. And you know what you hate about me and we overlook that. And we get to the things that we like about each other. Or there's certain friends you have that you just like talking to about certain things. I have friends where I just talked to them about certain real estate markets and certain cities. And it's been in it's a decade-long friendship. Where I will just talk to certain people about what's going certain people call me. You see Austin's getting fucked. I go, I know. And it's 25 minutes on the phone once a month, once a week, and that's okay. And so I don't like meeting a lot of new people. Like when you're young, you're like, I really want to meet a lot of people. I love meeting interesting people.
By the way, that's a craze. Anyone who says that's a crazy person. Anyone who says they like meeting interesting people is ill, mentally ill, is a mentally ill person. I'm telling you, because it doesn't happen that frequently that anyone can even like it. It's someone who is imagining what it would be like. If I meet interesting people all the time, it's terrible. It's actually terrible. I meet interesting people all the time. It's actually not that interesting. It's, I've met people where it's so insane, it gets boring. Like, if they're so interesting, you will meet people in the world that are so interesting. It's actually a weird, like, it's like, it goes full circle. So now my game is, I'd like to meet people that are moderately interesting or not that interesting and pull out of them something that is interesting. Oh, your mother faked her own death and disappeared for a year and then came back. That I like. I don't want to meet people who are like, I built a company from the ground up. Like, already, I'm sick when I hear that. Already at a dinner, when I hear I built this from the ground up, I'm physically ill and I want to kill myself. I built this from the ground up and in the beginning, nobody really believed. Oh my God. Oh my God. Come with a gun, shoot me in the face now. And like, my boys believed in me, but like, not even they did. And like, it took a while in the first seed round. Oh my God. Get a news tied around my neck. Make sure it's strong enough and lift me to the rafters and let me go see God because I can't, but I like this new person. This new white black guy, it's done well. It has class. There's charisma. It's not over the top. It's not like that waiter. And it reminds me of an archetype from my childhood. We had a lot of white black guys in Long Island that were that that someone overboard, some are dead, you know, they got too into it. But, you know, I mean, you play the role to get to it and you start being stupid, you know, but this one is, and he's got a white black guy name, and it's a cool ass name. I'm not going to say it, but I, oh, the white black guy's got to have a cool ass name. And that's, that's all I'll say, but I can't do any more at lunch. What a per? I get the, I'm finna get that ketchup. I can't do it. It's awkward. It's disrespectful to the contribution that black people have made in our country. Really it. It's like wrong on every level. I don't know why it's not called out. Whatever. I'm moving on from it, but whatever. I don't know why that's okay. It's like crazy. If I decided to be a Dominican woman for a year, people would say that's like not good, right? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying, but the good, good job on the snow strippers is she's a Russian woman. She's attractive, not really to me, biologically, I don't care, but she's an attractive lady and she's up there seeing in for the transfer of Goth Mexicans. And a few serial killers want to scoop them up, put them in the trunk and myself and the white black guy who's not my best friend. And then you in the beginning of it, they couldn't get the, I don't know, they couldn't get the, they couldn't get the tech right. So they had to keep leaving the stage and apologizing and all the transfer Mexican Goths were deflated by this. And they're sad anyway, I think. So I mean, they have a lot of emotional things. No one's happy ever, by the way, in our country. I was talking to Lucy K about that. No one's happy in America. I don't know why, but no one looks at like you're all in a concert, but they're all kind of have that glazed look and they're all raised in a phone and whatever, but they're, so they only get happy when this Russian woman gets on the stage. And then immediately there's like a problem and they apologize and go, we're so sorry that we had to do this to you. And then the transfer Mexican Goth kids get sad. And then some of them came over to me and they were like, yo, can I go to picture? I was like, of course, you can a little troupe of Cobras. And then so these troupe of Cobras are sad. And these little trans troupe of Cobras then go nuts when there's no, that Russian chick comes right on again. And they all start going nuts. And it was lovely. It was a lovely event. And it was nice to go. Nice to go. It was enjoyable because, you know, we're maybe on the verge of war with Iran. And we don't know. And I don't want to be negative about that. Somebody sent me a clip where these, these, these, these guys were discussing me and they were like, we're fans of him, but he's always tells people that there's no hope. And I go, I'm not saying there's no hope. He's telling people they can have a good life. I said, I've never said that. I've never said that. If you look at the news right now and you're overwhelmed with a sense of hope, I don't know what to tell you. I mean, like honestly, if you read the news right now and and hope is the first word that comes into your mind, I'm confused. That's what I would say. I'm not, I'm not trying to spread negativity or the show is literally me reacting to what's going on in the world. And if you think what's going on in the world, like I get it. We're run by a composite panic pedophiles. There's tremendous wealth and equality. Uh, we have a, a technology that's built autonomous drone armies, but you can't still have a good life. I get it. I'm not telling you you can't have a good life. Go have a good life. What I'm saying is when you look at the trends happening, you have to sit with that for a minute and go, Oh, yeah, this, this might shape up to be bad. It might, it might work out well. It might all work out well. There's seven people that all have all the money and have all the autonomous robotic drone armies. They might be benevolent rulers in our kingdom. So I'm not saying you can't go get a sticky bun or take a jog with the dog on Sunday morning. I'm saying the news is, if you get a little deflated, if you read the news, and they're like, why is Tim Dillon mad? He has a nice car. Da, da, da, da. Hey, man, I'm lucky. I have a silly car that I that I that I wanted since a little kid that I can drive. But I don't know that that invalidates the larger trends of what's happening. And the country's not doing great. I know that in some areas, it feels like it's doing great, but it's not doing great. Like we're in $40 trillion worth of debt. That's number one, a big problem. We're on the verge of a, you know, potentially a major war with Iran. That's not good. The average age of a homeowner is 39 years old. People are less likely to go out and and and hook up and get married and have children. So society looks a lot differently than it did when I grew up. And I'm responding all of that. It's not to depress anyone or tell anyone you can't have a good life. I have a good life as people bring up when you criticize anything. They go, you have a roll's right. Shut up. Why would you point something out that's glaringly obvious to literally anyone? There's a contingent of people that want you to say things are great. Things are great. That Sean Hannity crew, Ben Shapiro's in there, but it's a, it's a big Murdoch kind of Fox news crew. And then also there's people on the left that are more the mainstream Democrats. And also their instinct is always to go things are good. If, you know, people just were to listen to women. Like we'd be better. That's our only real issue. Things would be good if we had a trans spider man. The real issue is the lack of representation on the shows that nobody watches anyway. If minorities got more work in the shows that no one watched anyway, no one would need healthcare. Everything would be fine. That's an impulse. I get it. It's an impulse to have to just tell everyone to shut up. Things are good. Well, Tim Jones not going to work in, and these were nice guys. They weren't like, they weren't like, they weren't like, they disagreed with me on things. They were like, Tim, one of them goes, Tim Jones, well, he's not going to do another movie because he trashed that director. Number one, number one, what, how many movies was I in before that? Was I a movie star? I just didn't know it. Number two, did you see that movie? What was I supposed to say? What was I supposed to say was a cinematic achievement? And that director is a great director, and he's directed lots of other projects that have been classic. He's a legendary comedy director. And he'll direct a lot more shit. That's great that I won't be in. And whatever, you know, side note, I did look at a condo on, I'll say his name Todd Phillips, whatever people know who it is. And I looked at the condo and this building, and I called this here at Towers, and the realtor set, it was a really nice condo. It was a little while ago. And the realtor said, you know, Todd Phillips, the big director, um, he owns two units on this floor, and he goes, maybe he'll bump into him in the elevator, like, because you're a comedian. That would be pretty cool. And I was like, oh, and I just took my real try. I go, let's go. Let's go now. But I won't listen. I get fired all the time. I was fired by the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. You understand?
that. I was the only comedian fired by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I'll be fired again and I never blame anyone for my firing. It's usually my fault. It's almost always my fault. And I think these two guys to their credit to our fans of the show, but they thought that I have, I believe that Israel has too much influence in American foreign policy. You know, this is something that I believe. It's a crazy wacky belief that I've attained over the last couple of years. I believe that Israel has too much. I don't believe that the Jews are a shadowy cabal, keeping people from things. I believe the country of Israel has too much influence with American foreign policy. And when the leader of Israel visits Washington seven times to try to get us into a war with Iran, that is not in our interest really. I mean, it's just not. No one's afraid of Iran. I've grown up my whole life. All you've ever heard of it was Iran, like Iran's this like behemoth. It's going to come kill everyone while you're out at the mall. Iran's just going to start firing, uh, nuclear missiles, ballistic intercontinental ballistic missiles. You're going to, this is what these boomers fantasize. Like one day you're going to wake up. You're going to open your door and it's just, I mean chaos. I mean, it's, people are driving their cars into each other. It's the scene from a disaster movie, right? And you go, what, what's happening and your neighbor is going to go, Bob, it's Iran. And you're going to go, I knew it. I knew it. One day you just open your door and the world is falling apart. There are explosions and people are running full speed, grabbing their kids. Go, we got to get out of here and you go, what's going on? And your wife's like, I bet it's Iran. I bet. So that's what they're selling. That's the sales pitch is that our country, which is separated by water and we have a massive military and a nuclear arsenal and any attack on America, remember, would sign the death warrant of the Iranian regime. So they would have to be suicidal and crazy to attack America, but supposedly they are. And they've been planning this big attack on America where then we would destroy their civilization like in a matter of minutes, but supposedly they're trying to do it like that's their mo and they want to do that. And I don't believe that's a case. I think it's a war that primarily would benefit Israel because Iran is the biggest regional threat to Israel, whatever. So there's people that disagree with that analysis and you're allowed to disagree with that analysis. I would say you're wrong. I would say that I'm right. Trump barely talked about Iran. Iran was not an issue. Was Obama. It was a big issue. I mean, I know he made that deal and people fault him for that deal and whatever. Is there a nuclear, you know, program really peaceful? Is it really peaceful or are they? I don't know. I'm sure Iran would like a nuke. I'm sure a lot of countries would like nuke, but supposedly Iran's like five minutes away from a nuclear weapon and they and we and it's not enough to attack the missile sites, which we did. We have to go in and engage in a regime change war, which would be like a real war. Obviously we would win where the United States, but it would be like a big war and people would die and oil prices would spike and the global economy would suffer. And Iran gets is going to get, you know, weaponry from China and Russia and they already have and that's intensified over the last few weeks. And you know, we're going to spend a lot of money to replace the Iranian regime with what? I mean, it's a country of 90 million people. And supposedly we're going to put somebody in there who they all love. I don't know who it is. I don't know what the plan is. The plan is to send the Shah's son, this guy who's been living in Bethesda, Maryland in like in a, in a, in a, in having brunch with the CIA every week for the last 30 years, we're going to stuff him in there and he's going to show up there and everything's going to work. Well, I hope it does, by the way. So these guys are criticizing me for kind of whatever losing the plot. And that's okay. I, I, I, I don't think I've lost the plot, but it's people's, it's completely understandable for people to say they, they, think that I'm wrong about something. And that's okay. I don't think I'm wrong about it. But it might be fun. Here's the other thing. Maybe the Iran war is actually a fucking blast. Maybe it's a blast. And I'm not ruling that out. Like it's fun as fuck. And we're all into it more than the Olympics. And I'm going to play something I did for the Olympics. And I, and I like it. It's nice and funny. And it's a nice little commercial I did for Jay Kruehn. It's not a commercial. It's a short film. And the guy who directed it was lovely. I have nothing good to say about, I have nothing bad to say about any of it. But I will say this about the Olympics in general. I, I, I think the Iran war will be more fun than the Olympics if we have it. I don't like the Olympics. I used to love it as a kid. I don't know what it is. People keep trying to make it a thing. It's an embarrassment. I hate it. If you talk about the Olympics, I automatically assume something is wrong with you. I have, I have no time to hear about the Olympics. I cannot imagine the mental state. Someone has to be in to go home and watch the Olympics. It is a huge predictor of whether me and you were going to be friends. If you choose to reference something that happened at the Olympics, I'm telling you, I don't care about anything. I don't care that you thought the opening ceremony was satanic. I don't care that you got really invested in the Bob slutty. I don't want to hear anything. I don't care that the skier broke her leg. And now she's, her career's over. None of this matters anymore. It's like Hollywood's dying. We're not going to care about the Olympics. Folks, when I grew up, Olympians were stars. They had back stories you cared about. Then it got really sad. And I've talked about it on the show before where they're like, he lived in a car for years. Mother shot herself in the face. And now he's going for gold. And you're like, well, this is a little dark because people's lives have gotten so dark that the back, the back story used to be his father got him up every morning. And they went down to the frozen lake. And his father was like, you're going to be a figure skater because you're gay. And that was nice. That was a nice thing. And he's like, you can suck all the cock that you want when you win gold or something like that. And that was fine. That was fine. But then it became like really dark where it was like his mother bought lottery tickets every day. And she would sit there smoking sigs and scratching her scratch offs. And he looked at her and he said, the only way I'm going to get us out of here is if I do the pole vault or whatever, it's just weird. And now it's like nothing. Can you get up anything about this skier who lost a career? Or am I even remembering this right? Did a woman, did a woman of an injury and now she can't ski anymore? And who cares? No offense. Who is this for Lindsey Vaughn, a 41 year old five time Olympian. She's, it's enough for any of that suffer the complex. If you're left to be a fracture after a high speed crat during the February, aetherlumpic downhill in Milan, Cortina following a horror crash underwent multiple surgeries for her leg in pieces with recent updates indicating that she's recovering and back on US soil. Now listen, can we, what, let's watch this because again, obviously, it's sad that she got hurt, but I just don't care about this. It was she messed up. Hold on, show that again. That's not what you're supposed to do in that sport. She crashed just seconds into her down here. She hears the thing. She goes airborne and then goes in a weird turn. Play that again. That's not what you're supposed to do. I don't even ski and I know that. Play this again. This is not right. She loses control. It's over. Here's the thing folks. You know, that doesn't make me feel anything and it doesn't make you feel anything and stop lying. All right, get her out of here. I don't want to see this again, but it's not real anymore. These are, if Hollywood celebrities aren't real, we're certainly not going to care. I hope her leg is better, but this is nothing. The Olympics aren't a thing and they haven't been for years and this, it, it no one's what, what, what generic reg, like what conversation starts with like, did you see the Olympic? The people that are watching the Olympics, it's like these little cute influencers in New York that are all getting paid and they roll like, and they send them all to the Olympics and they're all trying to distract you from all the stuff that's going on, which as they should be, but like, they're all like, whoa, I cannot, I cannot believe I'm here at the Olympics. It's such an honor.
Let me tell you right now, these people invite the J crew people who I did this short film for. It was about Olympic skiing and like how skiing became a sport. And it was, it was lovely. The kids on set were very nice. We got in a fight with one of them. One of them, I called them young Sheldon. He said, big back, I get it. The whole fat thing. He called me Tim cheese. Then it became, mean him. He was like a non-neural kid and he just started fighting about whether country should have borders, who had sovereignty, whatever it just degenerated. But, you know, and they should, whatever, it doesn't matter. The point is it was a lovely experience we'll play in a minute. But they invited me to go, you could actually come to the Olympics. And I go, yeah, but why? They go, but you'd be at the Olympics. It would be cool. It's like, you're at the Olympics in Milan. I go, yeah, but you know, I just don't, I don't, if I was at the Olympics, I'm telling you, I would just walk around and go, why are we still doing this? Can you get up Jake Paul and and JD Vance talking at the Olympics? Look at Vance. Look at his wife and look at Jake Paul. I mean, that was the Olympics. This is the Olympics. Get that photo up. I mean, this is the Olympics. I mean, it's like, I like Jake Paul. I really, I don't hate JD Vance. I think they're making a big mess of it up there. But I'm going to fly 10 hours for this because I would have been in that row. I'm in that row. It's Jake Paul, JD Vance, and then me, and I'm eating a pastry that I'm in that row. That's the row I'm in, most likely. Or I'm like, even more shamefully, I'm like behind them. I'm like somewhere, like seated like behind them, but that's the crew. What do you think they're putting me with? What do you think I'm going? What do you think I'm going to go? You think I'm going with the young hot influencers? I'm going right next to Vance to wife and Paul. And I'm sitting there eating a tiramisu, disinterested, watching this bitch break her leg. And I turn to JD Vance and go, ooh, and then I would have made him laugh. I would have went kind of Pam Bondy, huh? That's the way Pam Bondy's handling everything. And he would have went, uh-huh. Well, the thing about Pam. But you know, I mean, that's where I'd be. I'd be in that row, getting, getting destroyed. So I didn't go to the Olympics. Let's play a little bit of this. Jake crew, uh, short film, and I play a ski instructor talking to the children. What are you even learning here? I mean, what the hell kind of school even is this? Grab a toss is honor and dignity. Honor and dignity are truth. Truth is God. God is the mountain. Okay. Are you getting that three little heads? That was the kid I saw. Some of your heads aren't that little. Some of you have abnormally large heads. Go back to that kid. Go back to that kid for a minute. Where was he? And some of your heads aren't that little. Unnatural. And it's something you'll have to deal with. But not today. That little where the mountain. Where is he? Okay. Yeah, him, him. Truth is God. Try to freeze on him. He started a chant, Tim cheese, which is like, some type of rat in your game or something. Honor and dignity are true. He started this. It's his God. God. It's quick. Grab a toss. He's honor and dignity. Children started. His God. God is the mountain. And then I responded by calling him young. So he starts this chant. No, literally, he starts a chant. Tim cheese. Tim cheese. And then he goes big back. And he makes his, he's blowing his, um, he's gone. And then I go, okay, shut up, young Sheldon. And then instead, I burned him. I like cooked him. And then the kids responded to that. And he was genuinely deflated. But then he came back at me with more chance. And it became, they were, it was, they were being very vicious. And then there were six sevening and stuff. They're, they're sick. The young people and their nihilists. But all right, let's watch Resfits. Sorry. Did mean interrupt. Some of you have abnormally large heads unnatural. But not today. So have you ever heard of US ski and snowboard? Those are the elite of the elite. Those are our eagles. But it didn't start out that way. It started out a long time ago when people were just trying to figure out how to get down that mountain. Let me show you. All right. There it is. And here's the thing. We will, okay, there's some left. We'll post a link to watch this. All right. And then this is, it goes this thing. You can give it a look. J crew, obviously a clothing company that has a winter ski line. And Kevin Ulrich, the director of this, who's really great. I'm very nice and allowed me to be a part of it, which was very nice of him. And I don't hold him accountable. Obviously for the bully, the bullying that I experienced on set from the children, which is something I could, it is legally actionable. But whatever, I'm not going to do anything about it because I'm a team player. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I wanted to talk about this hazing incident here because again, I think we're overreacting to it. I just don't care if, if, if college kids want to kill each other, folks, it's really the least of our problems. I wasn't in a frat. I dropped out of community college. I was in the real fraternity, which was the brotherhood of subprime mortgage salesman on Long Island. And we didn't need to haze each other. We understood that we stood against a common enemy, which was the FBI. And that creates a bond as well. You know what creates a bond more than like putting ketchup on each other's shirtless crime, doing crime. I'm kidding. We weren't even doing crime. It was literally all legal. And those people were happy in those homes for a few years. And that's, that's all you get in life. Well, you know, what are we doing? So play this video because there's a bunch of shirtless, pretty hot young college guys in a basement. And this is some hazing ritual where, you know, you're trying to get into a frat and they, they, they put a bunch of mayonnaise on you or catch up or something. And everyone's like horrified by this and listen, whatever, it's child, it should silly. It's whatever. I don't know. I feel like, you know, I, and everyone's like, everyone makes the point where they're like, listen, these guys are going to be the future leaders of America. Hey, maybe not. They're like, they're going to be the future leaders of America. Yeah, maybe, maybe not. The future leaders leaders of America are going to be maybe robots. So this is, this looks like something I've paid $50,000 to come home to. By the way, it wouldn't cost 50, but it'd be 10. What is, so now this is a bunch of young college guys in a basement. They're all being hazed. And I, I, I, it's, I guess it's a, people are squirting stuff. All right. Let's, let's see the video a little bit of it. We're not going to watch the whole thing. Anyone want to be forced to know what's going on? Hey, this stops here, guys. This is a police apartment. This stops here. The cops should have fucked all the cars in charge. The cops should have fucked every single one of them. How hot would it have been if the cops went in cleaning this up? Everyone's in and said, now let's do it for real and shut the door and fucked all of them and cracked all of them open. Let me tell you right now, you want to talk about camaraderie? You want to talk about a night that bonds you forever? By the way, you know how people used to bond when they had terrible lives? Does that mean all my friends used to bond? By the way, you'd be smoking a cigarette. You go, I have nothing and someone would go, yeah, me too. And you just start laughing. That's the way people used to bond. You'd be smoking a blunt and you'd go, I really don't have any money. I have nothing going on. And quite frankly, nothing excites me and I, I don't care about anything. And someone to go, we have a quiz today and you just start laughing. You go, dude, I am so fucked for that. That was bonding for the lower middle class. But I get it. This is Greek life. These are the frats. You do all this stuff and you're supposed to like, ooh, we're shirtless and we're getting ketchup on us. And supposedly this is supposed to make bond us. No, no, no, not enough for me. Imagine this story. How did you guys become such good friends? Well, we're in the same frat. We were being hazed in the, in the basement and we would just stand there in some gym shorts and they would just throw ketchup and mayonnaise at us and stuff and, you know, make Russian dressing on our chest and they would yell at us and we'd get in our face. And then the cops came and the cops
close the door and fucked all of us. Like hardcore raw punishing sacks. Like no loob, no poppers, no prep, no eating yogurt the night before. Just messy, dirty, prison gang. Sacks. And some of us cried, some of us liked it. Some of us were frankly in the middle. And that's and that's why we're so that's why we're such good friends. And somebody will go, that's a crazy story. Did you see the Olympics? You see that girl broke her leg on the Olympics? She can't ski anymore. This girl we've never heard of can't ski now. Um, but that would have done it for me. I mean, I think it's a little overreactive. Like people are like, I can't believe whether, do you know what I've been through in my life? You know how much harder it is than that? You know, much more difficult it is to go through what I've been through than to stand for a night or two or a week, whatever in a basement and get ketchup thrown at you. Do you understand? Do you understand what it's like to be Thanksgiving? You have to defend your, your friendship with RFK Jr. You want to talk about hazing? I say, I think he's a, I think he's nice. I think him and his wife are nice. You know, I don't know, I don't think it's such a big deal the hazing, but maybe it's because I'm, I'm sys hat. Well, I'm not hat. I'm sys gay. What do you call me? What do I call me? I'm not hat. Sys, sys gay, rich, sys rich, sys rich, white bitch, sys rich, white bitch. By the way, those shirts are coming. Let's talk a little bit about Les Wexner, your friend of the show. Les Wexner is a entrepreneur. He's an American success story. He's a legend. He created Victoria's Secret and he was swindled by Jeffrey Epstein. I don't know if you've heard of this guy. Jeffrey Epstein was a very dishonest man and Les Wexner billionaire entrepreneur was taken in and swindled by Jeffrey Epstein because Jeffrey Epstein Les Wexner hired Jeffrey Epstein to manage all of his money, his billions of dollars of money. Also, he gave him the largest private residence in Manhattan. And, uh, and Les Wexner, I believe a one point gave Jeffrey Epstein power of attorney, but he was really swindled. Like, I imagine this is how it went down. Now, Les Wexner, again, legendary entrepreneur billionaire, you'd think maybe a guy that wouldn't be able to be swindled, but this is how it went down because I know this. I know how easy it is to cold call if you're good. So Jeffrey Epstein probably, yeah, Les Wexner tells you us lawmakers. He was naive and conned. So now, I want you to imagine Les Wexner billionaire entrepreneur, the limited brands, all of that. Les Wexner sitting at home and he gets a phone call and he probably answers his phone in Ohio. He's on a lead sheet. So when you sit down to cold call, there's lead sheets. Okay. So Jeffrey Epstein's really nervous. He gets the lead sheet and goes, ooh, Les Wexner, it's the big well. Let's call him. Hello. Hello. Now, I'm gonna, here's the thing. People are gonna say to me, oh, you're doing a Jewish voice for this and it's anti-Semitic. But here's reality. Epstein had this weird, creepy child-like voice. It's not, I'm not trying to do anything here. I just gonna, I have to go through the bed without you telling me that it's whatever. Hello. Hello. It's, it's Jeff. Jeff Epstein. Is this Les Wexner? Yes. Well, Les, I just wanted to give you a call. Are you, are you happy with the people that are managing your money? Well, yes, I am. Thank you very much. I think I'll be going, well, hold on. Hold on. Are you getting the, are you getting the returns you think you should get? Well, you could always get more returns. Yes. That's what I think. I'm Jeffrey Epstein. And we want to take you money and make you money work for you. We want to make you money work for you. You work for you money. Now, why does it your money work for you? That's a good point. What would I have to do? You give me all your money. Give me all your money. Give me a house. Let me have power of attorney. And buy me a house in Manhattan. Well, that sounds reasonable. I'm a billionaire, but you seem like a nice gentleman. Now I'm doing a black voice for Les Wex. I don't know what happens. I don't mean that it's just hard. It's like, I'm, I'm drifting into like a black voice. Here's what I'm trying to say. Imagine the insanity of believing that Jeffrey Epstein has somehow conned this billionaire entrepreneur into giving him all of his money. Does anyone believe that? Does anyone believe that Les Wexner who has an army of lawyers and accountants except the one that they shot, you can google that. That is true. Get up. Les Wexner account. It's true. And I'm sure he, I'm sure it was an accident. I'm sure it was an accident. Don't kill me. Yeah, there's, yeah, there was a, uh, yeah. Someone put a bullet in Arthur Shapiro's head. He was the lawyer of Victoria Secret Billion or Les Wexner. Now I imagine that this is a coincidence. It happened many years ago and people get shot in the head and I'm sure this was a coincidence. And, uh, it was a mafia style slaying. It's never been solved. And I'm sure they tried hard. But, and I think he was about to test if I get go, go see, we can get a little bit more info on this because I believe that this guy, uh, right. Here we go. Arthur Shapiro was in trouble. The shy secret of lawyer, a partner in the Columbus, Ohio law firm of Schwartz Shapiro, Kalman Warren was under investigation by the IRS for failing to file income tax returns for seven years and for possible investments in shady tax shelters. In March 1985, Shapiro was due to testify before grand jury over his dodging and whether anyone had helped him hide the money. What he might reveal, no one knew, but he and his firm and several high profile clients had a long history in Columbus. But Arthur Shapiro never made it to the stand. A day before scheduled testimony, somebody fired to bullet point black and it was had as he fled from a secretive breakfast meeting, held in his red BMW at a Columbus cemetery. The mobsaw murder has never been solved. Shapiro reportedly personally oversaw the account for the limited. The clothing company owned by billionaire Les Wexner, who's empire also included popular brands like Lane Bryant, which is, um, the clothing store for female Fatty Wombatis, where when I sometimes dress up like a Barry Weiss or Megan McCain or whatever any of our ladies, I will head in the Lane Bryant and still would like to, by the way, um, shout out to Les and the whole fam expressing, of course, Victoria's secret neither Wexner or his communications team. They've declined to comment blah, blah, blah. So anyway, so Les Wexner, who's surrounded by an army of lawyers and accountants minus this guy who took a wanted face, wanted ahead, um, and who knows why life's random and weird. So this guy takes wanted ahead. It is. You can't, can you predict life? You cannot. That's life. You think that's what he thought when he got banged in the head. That's life. You're riding high in April. Shot down in me. But sometimes you're going to change your tune. Uh, when you get shot in your face in June. Anyway, so, uh, you, you, you, you, so Les Wexner is conned by Jeffrey, Jeffrey Epstein calls him up or I guess gets to him some way and goes, by the way, give me everything and I'll, uh, handle it. And then Les Wexner is going, now this guy's a crook. And he preyed on people. I, I think that's so wrong to prey on people. So our heart goes out to Les Wexner, by the way, who is a victim, Les Wexner friend of the show, victim of Jeffrey Epstein, another victim. I think we're going to find out that all of these billionaires are victims of Jeffrey Epstein. I think that's the turn we're about to make here. There's a lot of victims of Jeffrey, not only these women, but I think a lot of these billionaires and children, by the way, I think a lot of these billionaires were conned by Jeffrey Epstein in a visiting this island or giving him a power of attorney. He's conned a lot of these people. You got to give it to somebody like Jeffrey Epstein. He's just a smooth talk. There was nothing, there's no other reason that those two would be in business.
What other reason could you think about did it go less wax or in a Jeffrey Epstein might find each other's company enjoyable? What other reason would one think? It's not that they were engaged in illicit activities like money laundering or sex trafficking or, you know, weapons trafficking and narcotraft. It's none of that is true that that's let's just rule that out. Let's rule that out immediately and imagine that it's just, Jeffrey Epstein's got a great pitch. He called, called them. He called them cold. Would you like your money to work for you? Well, yes, I would. Yes, I would. Now play, play the lawyer going, I will fucking kill you if you say one more thing. Now by the way, Yashar Ali, I think occasionally listen to the show, it's kind of an interesting, I don't know, he's a reporter of some kind. He makes his kind of interesting points. Some of them are weird and I don't know if any, like some of them are good and some of them are like, I don't, nobody says why he's saying it. But whatever, that's the way I'm sure people feel about me. So, Yashar Ali was basically like, well, yeah, this is just something lawyers say, which is probably true. Like, I've had a lot of traffic problems, you know, my friend was never a human trafficker, but I like drove with a suspended license and like, my lawyer would be like, just say, just say the minimum. Just say the minimum. So now, here's less Wexner talking about, I believe Jeffrey Epstein working for the Raw Child Family and Bill Gates or Google, the heads of Google, right. So, so we're going to play this for you, here's victim, Leslie Wexner, victim, also a good friend of the show, but victim, victim in this, in Jeffrey Epstein's tangled web of lies. Here's Les Wexner, full victim in Jeffrey Epstein's tangled web of lies. And I feel for Les Wexner because he's now dealing with the fact that his friend wasn't who he fought, that's the real, you gotta, you gotta appreciate for a minute, you gotta just step back and think about how stupid they think you are. The contempt they have for you, the utter contempt they have for you as a human being and your intellectual ability, your gut instincts, your humanity, like the, the contempt they have for you is funny, it is funny. Maybe some of you listening to this or parents, probably some, a lot of you are. And when your children or your teenagers lie to you, it, there's a, there's as long as, as long as they're not lying about something crazy. But when they lie to you, when they're late, for their curfew, when they lie to you and you kind of laugh, because you go, oh, they, number one, they think I was in a kid, they don't understand that I can see right through them. They're not really good at this, they're not, they're not pulling one over on us. And you and your wife giggle about it. That to me is what we're watching now. It's like we're seeing some of the worst lies ever, like do you realize how much better the Iraq war was in terms of lies, and those lies were bad. Like those lies were bad, these lies are so incredibly insane. Iran is going to blow up your cat. Like Iran's going to blow up your favorite coffee shop. Iran's taken out the diner, you get cheese fries in after the ball. It's such the lies are so incredible. There's zero effort going into lies. This guy's out here going, I got conned by my best friend, by the guy I worked with for decades. I had no idea what he was up to, I had no idea. And the Trump administration's going out and going, hey, everyone's innocent in the thing that never happened, that there's millions of files on that are incredibly disturbing in heinous. Also, there's files we won't release and we won't do any investigations into any of these allegations because they happened a long time ago and what would we even really do? And that's the current White House position is, well, now you know, now you know, there's no investigations. There's been no accountability, there's nothing happening. So the White House goes, you just wanted to know, you know, so now you know, now you know, you feel better now? That's the kind of their attitude. They're like, you feel better now? Yeah, they're all fucking cans and killing them. You feel better? Now you know. So here's, let's go back to Leslie Wexter who's wrestling with this deep betrayal from Jeffrey Epstein. This is a real human drama here because this guy hired Jeffrey Epstein to just manage his money, gave him power of attorney, which by the way, I don't know if you know what power of attorney means, but it means that Jeffrey Epstein controls everything, you know, like in the event of like Les Wexner is incapacitated or whatever. Jeffrey Epstein, if he has a stroke, whatever happens, Epstein controls like all of it. Because maybe Epstein knows where the bodies are buried, metaphorically, I'm saying. The Les Wexner has this incredibly close business relationship with this man and I imagine a personal relationship as well. And this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, turns out to be a money laundering human trafficker. And Les Wexner is completely caught off guard and he's blown away by this. He's blown away by this and it's shocking. And Epstein has intelligence connections to the CIA and to the Mossad and probably other intelligence agencies and so he's like living in this weird world. He's like a spook. He's a money laundering. He's like, he's connected to all these different powerful people. And he's running an operation that's a multifaceted operation that involves trafficking children that involves, you know, making large sums of money disappear that involves back channeling with world leaders at the behest of current and former government employees, other world leaders, prime ministers, presidents, just lean Maxwell's invited onto a 9/11 commission. All the files around 9/11 are blacked at like they haven't released any of the files that are anyone near 9/11 that involved Jeffrey Epstein, any of these Epstein files. They literally say that there's certain files they don't want out because national security sources and methods and the scam there is basically saying, well, if we put out these files, other countries will know how we get information at who our sources were and the methods we use. And so we can't have that because then we'd be come, but now number one, mind you. We rely much less now on human intelligence. We rely a lot on satellite intelligence and tech and everything like that. That's why a teal and parmer lucky and all these guys are getting huge contracts with the government. It's because the future of warfare and intelligence gathering like the future of all things is very tech centric. So the idea of like the spy sitting in Morocco having coffee, that's still a thing. There's still human intelligence, but it's a very interesting cell to go. So these sources and methods that we use 20, 30 years ago, well, you know, a lot of them are, so when we compile these files, we don't want to let them out because then people would know how we, you know, and it's the big lie sources and methods is a lie. You can release stuff without sources and methods. It's a lie. It's again, it's just saying we don't want to put it out because you're going to start talking about what the hell, what, what was 9/11 because no one even knows what it was. By the way, no one knows what it was. There's a belief that Osama bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad al-Qaeda, which was, you know, is kind of, it was a group that ran weapons to a lot of, you know, other, you know, dissident groups and stuff like that and that they had hatched at this plot and they had hatched at a meeting in Kuala Lumpur, which was, by the way, heavily surveilled by a lot of intelligent forces and we should have known about this plot at some point and then, you know, Khalida Mindar and Al-Hazminal, these hijackers, it were allowed into America and they were being surveilled, but the FBI never told the CIA about that because there was a wall between the FBI and CIA, which did exist, but, you know, it does seem like an important piece of information. So some of these people were trained in American flight schools and then some of these people were victims of mistaken identity and it turns out that some of the hijackers, we thought were hijackers weren't exactly hijackers and no one knows why building seven fell and nobody knows whether it's a tiny hole in the wall of the Pentagon. And again, you have to just dance around with logic. You just have to dance around and go, well, you know, this is the way things happen and, you know, technically a plane could fly at that rate of speed, very low to the ground for a long time and not clip any light poles and not clip anything and have nobody really you see it.
they go into the Pentagon and then go through four solid walls of steel and then punch out a little hole, whatever. And building seven, actually, there were fires in building seven that were burning all day because of debris from the other falling buildings and whatever. And you know, there's a lot of people that think it's, it is bunk, to be honest, they think there's something there is something wrong. There's something weird about it. Um, but all of the Epstein Falls around 9/11 are black. Now, of course, I don't know what happened on 9/11. Nobody knows what happened on 9/11. We'd have it read any of the files. We just, there's a lot of people, including myself, who doubt that the official story is what we're being told. Um, and people tried to find more out about this. There was a Senator, Senator Graham, Phil Graham, Florida, believes his name was Phil Graham. Yeah. And, and, and, and I think Senator Graham might have been Bob Graham. Get up, Senator Florida 9/11 Graham. I just don't want to say it was the wrong Graham. And this guy was trying to find out, yes, Senator Bob Graham. So this guy was trying to find out more about 9/11, Saudi connection, whatever. He was trying to dig deeper into 9/11 and he kept getting shut down and he kept getting threatened by the FBI. They were like, Hey, hey, buddy, hey, Bob, Bob. I love that name because that's exactly what, how to call them. They're like, Bob, Bob. What are you doing? Because you didn't understand. He was like, I'm just trying to get, information here and they kept shutting him down. They would harass him, harass his family, and stop in the airport. They did all this shit, right? So there's a lot in these files and it's fucking weird. And anyone who says it's not weird. I don't know. It's, it's crazy. So here's Les Wexner again, victim of Jeffrey Epstein caught in a tangled web of lies faced to confront the fact that his best friend business partner was some type of con artist human trafficker, money laundering. Here it is, Les Wexner, let's see a little bit of more of what he says here, giving a long answer, a bit to understand the context, because if I just say yes or no, you won't understand it. Right. I really want this whole group to understand it. And I never would have guessed there was being conned. Right. Never ever. Right. The deceit was so subtle. Yes. It's sad. It's sad. This is sad. I appreciate the stories we're just trying to write. Don't tell too many stories. It's very helpful. Thank you. I know the stories. And could I ask you, I think you said in the last hour, it was your understanding that Mr. Epstein, while he was working for you, also had other clients. Is that right? Yes. So with that mean that his work for you, you understood it to be part time. Right. Think, think, think, think. Don't say his full time. I wouldn't describe it that way. Right. Don't describe it as part time. I knew it was in full time. I thought it was in full time. That's right. Good. That's right. It's not full-time years. That's right. Substance. As a listener, it sounds like we all got conned. We all got conned. Of course, are one of the wealthiest people in the country managing all of your personal affairs. What does that mean? I can't get conned. Pause that. Pause that. Pause that. Just because I'm one of the wealthiest people in the country, I can't have my friend let me down in a major way. My friend let me down in a major way. Like, wait, just because I'm rich, I shouldn't. I'm not allowed to have my friend let me down in a major way. I'm not allowed to be sad that my account got shot in the face randomly. I'm not allowed to be sad that my account got shot in the head. I'm not allowed to be sad that my best friend turned out to be a human trafficker and it was stealing money. Just because I'm rich, that folks is classism and it's wrong. Rich people bleed. Rich people hurt. Truly, it's not right. I'm going to put my foot down here. I actually am the abuse of this billionaire in front of us, making him have this realization in front of everyone that he's been so taken advantage of by his best friend, Jeffrey Epstein. This guy is so befuddled and hurt. He doesn't even know whether Epstein worked for him full time. He doesn't think it was full time. He wouldn't characterize it as that. But that's how hurt this man is. Because emotions are odd things, you know, I saw my parents get divorced and of course it's different because they shared a child. I don't think these men shared a child that might have shared several. Here's the thing. That's comedy folks. But you know, what I'm saying here, and it's horrible, obviously, and jail, jail, killing, death, guillotine, whatever, you know, when we find this stuff out, but not for him because he strikes me as innocent. I could be a poor judge of character, but just his face here. He's so number one, he's very, I like how forthcoming he is going, I'm going to, I want you to understand the answers, but by lawyers telling me not to answer the questions. So I have to answer them in like five words or less or yes or no, because this is a legal thing. I want to tell you stories and kind of like get into the nitty gritty here, but my lawyer has advised me to just answer yes or no and then really we're going to leave here and really think about what we're doing. But I desperately want to tell you more about this betrayal. Let's hear a little bit more here about this betrayal. And it sounds like that was an issue with the guy before Epstein. How was he able to do that job, but also do work for other clients at the same time? I think Peg does the work now. I think you could supervise the work. Overview it. Isn't the work that I do? Right. And say you could do really thorough work if you were doing it three or four days a month, certainly a week or a day or a day a month, just focusing on these things. Those are accountants and tax lawyers and other people. And then what's in setting up as an example, I wouldn't, I didn't have the idea to inventory furniture or now we look at the law. By the way, the lawyer, the lawyer stopped it for a minute. The lawyer, the lawyer is looking at him and the lawyer is saying, I'm telling you right now, stop talking. The lawyer is like less. You can't talk because the more you talk, the more obvious it's going to be that you're incredibly guilty here. So don't, don't talk because on its face, the idea that this guy was just swindled by Jeffrey. I have no idea what's going on. It's completely insane. And everyone with any any an IQ above 12 knows this. Okay. The dumbest people in the world know this. In fact, dumb people get this stuff actually sometimes better than smart people. It's very interesting. If you talk to somebody who went to Yale about this case, and I'm not, and by the way, I'm not saying that like working class people, dumb stuff is going to use example, like if you go to a diner and talk to a diner waitress, and I'm not saying she's done, but like the people that we've decided or smart versus the people that we, and I'm sure that the people at Yale obviously have, you know, high IQ people, they're whatever, they're, you know, they're really good at test taking and they, their whole lives of, you know, they've been bred for Yale. But if you went to a diner in Wisconsin, and you told a diner waitress this story, she would be more correct than someone who went to Yale. Because someone who went to Yale would be focusing usually on a lot of the wrong things. And somebody who went to Yale would have a very tough time with any of the elements of this that seemed conspiratorial. They'd have a real hard time and they go, I, I just don't think things work that way. I just don't think it happens that way. I just don't think it works that way. I just think that that's a little convenient. I just think, and a diner waitress in Wisconsin would go, yeah, no, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're in, they're in kuhuts. She's got they're in kuhuts. It's obvious they're in kuhuts. That's what she'd have to say and she'd be correct. Because she, your gut instincts can be destroyed sometimes by a like overly, um, like an overly cerebral approach to things can sometimes do
destroy your gut instincts. You might feel a certain way, but you might have to, when you're analyzing it, you might be considering all of these different options and then giving weight in your head to options that you know in your gut are either less likely to be true or are not true. So when I've talked about this stuff with people, the people on the upper echelon of society that have gone to these schools and have been in the circles of supposedly the smart set, the chattering class, the people that are intelligent, they're looking at this in a cerebral way going, well, it's actually not the thing that's right in front of your face. It could be 10 things. They don't discount that it could be the thing that's right in front of your face, but they go, but it also could be those other nine things. And you go, cut it, cut it. Maybe, let's watch the rest of this, Leswax. - Solar where you're having some, what? - That encounter forks and spoons. - Right. - Check if some people could be walking out with forks and spoons. - Right, now stop that, stop that. Here's folks, folks, folks, folks, folks, folks, folks, the CEO of Victoria's Secret just said that Leswax, said that Jeffrey Epstein was telling him to inventory of furniture and forks and spoons because people might be leaving Leswax or his house with forks and spoons. He just said this, he just said this. He said, you know, Jeffrey was, I want you to play this again to go back a few seconds. This is something that's truly remarkable. I want you to hear this again. This is the CEO of Victoria's Secret claiming that Epstein, who he hired to manage all of his money, had alerted him to the danger that if you didn't inventory forks and spoons because Leswax said, I don't count forks. By the way, neither do I. Les, we have something in common. It's your boy, we have something in common because I've never counted forks and you could come to my house and steal forks. And I would never know. Just put it out there, thieves. I want you to hear this again because at first glance, it seems insane, but think about it. It makes a lot of sense. A guy like Leswaxner has to protect himself from fork theft. Understand? So that's where Jeffrey Epstein came in. Even his lawyer is looking at him like, well, this is an odd example. Even his lawyer is like, this is why we got to keep it to five words or less. Because now we're like, you're talking about forks and knives and spoons, Leswaxner on what Jeffrey Epstein did for him. Let's go. - How could you have a silverware in your house and what? And I didn't count forks and spoons. And it's like, Jeff said, people could be walking out with forks and spoons. Gee, that's a good idea. We got to have an inventory. And there was a, I hired a lady to be like the house manager who had run the US Embassy in Rome and said, yeah, I know how to do this. And I said, hold on a minute, hold on a minute. I have a house manager. This guy just said he hired a house manager who ran the US Embassy in Rome. What is going on in your house? My house manager is from Queens. She screams at me and we fight about tile. She buys lamps I don't like and I make her take them back. We have a party every summer in the Hamptons and we get in fights with local caterers and we hire a Carvelle truck to come. This man who does have a nicer home than me, for sure. This guy, this guy just said he hired a house manager who managed the US Embassy in Rome. I feel that she might be overqualified. But again, we can get rid of him. I do appreciate his, him, him. I do appreciate him being honest because I feel that that really is what we need more of in this story. We need more of honesty. And when a man like that is swindled, it's very simple. He hired Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein's like, we got to start inventorying the furniture. The knives and forks people could be stealing your silverware unless waxers like, well, that's what a good thought. I'd never thought that. Here's all of my money. Let me give you power of attorney over literally all of my assets because you came up with this, what a brilliant, I'd never thought that billionaire's face that kind of silverware threat. But they do. But do you see why the lawyers like we can't even talk? You can't even say anything this more than five words. The lawyer knows how crazy the lies are. Let's waxers not have to lie in a long time. His lies are crazy. He's like, well, Jeff said, you know, how many spoons do you have? I don't know how many spoons I have. People are walking out with spoons. And these are silver spoons. They're heavy. When you put them on the teacup, you hear the clink. This is real silver. And Jeff came to me and said, what about the forks? Less, what about the forks that I went right, right? And he said, why don't you hire the woman who ran the US embassy in Rome to manage the silverware? And I said, this is a great idea for this tip. I'm going to give you all of my money now. And then he purchased, Jeff, he absolutely largest private residence in Manhattan. And you know why? Because forks for a lot of fucking money. And Jeff saved him money in forks and spoons. Jeff saved him a lot of forks and spoons. Before we leave, it's been a very fun episode. And I'm sorry, it's late, but before we leave, we have to get up. My other new best friend, not my new white black guy who I love, but my other new best friend is my Indian friend, cash Patel. And I love cash Patel number one, because of his character, but number two, because of his commitment to justice. (laughing) Dan Bonsino and cash Patel. It's from the very great shadows of Ezra account here. Cash Patel and Dan Bonsino have decided to have a pod, like they're gonna do, they're doing a podcast, because Dan Bonsino left the FBI and is now doing a podcast again. And cash Patel is back on his podcast. And here we go. Let's just let it speak for itself. I don't know if you can even set this up. Dan Bonsino cash Patel friends of the show here, describing how difficult it is to cover up a pedophile ring. Let's go. Everything's a level 10 decision, cash. A level 10 meeting, there's a pardon the language, but a shitty decision and a shitier one. Because if it was a good decision, we made someone else made it. And then when those decisions, that's every day. I know you know this, 'cause I would knock under your door and you'd be like, what now? And I'd be like, here we go again. Like something else will come up. But I just wanna put into perspective for folks out there. When that decision can't even be made by me, it goes to you. When it doesn't go to you, it goes to the president's test. He's dealing with like level 11 decisions. And that's the thing in DC is that's why the batting average isn't always gonna be a thousand. There's no good call to be made or someone else would have made it. There's just really tough decisions where, you know, there's a shit call and a shitty or a call. And listen, that's what we signed up for. That's how it rolls. >> Look, yeah, these are difficult decisions, Dan. That's why you volunteered to jump back in. It wasn't just gonna be, hey, we're gonna do this job. It's gonna be super easy. We're not gonna have to make any hard decisions. And we're not gonna have to come back a press corps that has largely been biased and full of inaccurate reporting. But we made those decisions collectively in the best interest of the nation. And if we hadn't, then none of this would be true. None of this would be possible. If President Trump had made the hard decisions to allow us and give us the resources that we need, and to back the blue and law enforcement to prioritize working with state and local authorities, then we wouldn't be able to do what we did. But you're right, we had a lot of hard decisions, and that comes with the territory of the job. But once you look outside of the cauldron of Washington, DC, and this is one of the things that, you know, I'm trying to remind myself of every day. Outside of here, there is a different America than the one that lives in the national capital region. And I try to remind myself every day when making those difficult decisions that you talked about that we make on a daily basis. Let's stop it for a. What the fuck are these people talking about? What in God's name are these two people talking about? Can anyone even venture a guess at this point? Do they make less whexner look like an open book? What are these?
two ghouls talking about. What in the fuck are they talking about? Resources, decisions, outside of DC. There's people that live outside of DC. Yeah. That's what he learned. Two years running, a year running the FBI, he learned that people live outside of the state of Virginia. This is what he learned. Did he learn that there's a population outside of the district of Columbia? That's all he learned. I mean, this is like the craziest thing I've ever heard. I realized that there were people that live outside of the capital city. Yeah. Actually, this is going to shock him most people. And they also hate him. Does he think he's beloved when he gets out of DC? I mean, this guy's out of his mind. Does this guy think the problem's geography? Does he think when he leaves DC, people think this has gone well? Does he think the problem's a zip code issue? Does he think confidence in his leadership builds once he's outside of the beltway? What are these people speaking of? Tim DeLacombe.com. You have shows on sale in Long Island in Jersey. Three shows sold out of the paramount. I believe close to sold out. There are some tickets left. Mother's Day weekend. Bring your mother's out. Long Island women really deserve a break. You know, they work so damn hard. They work so damn hard drinking and complaining. Also, a couple of shows in Jersey, Linux City and Bergen or something. Maybe we're going to announce some two for South by Southwest. It might be fun. Go down there to Austin, Texas, greatest city in the country. Actually, why not spend a weekend there in Austin? Spended night there, night or two. Nothing crazy. We always appreciate listening. We're sorry it's late. I think it's worth it. Let's all really remember that let's take a lesson from less wax or our friends may let us down. They may let us down. As an audience, I would just like to thank you for giving me the resources to make the tough decisions. Every decision we make here on the Tim Bill and show is a nine and some of them are in 11, some of them are in 11. Redacted, we don't know, three months, no emails, but I just want to let you know that you give me the authority to make the hard decisions and you give me the resource because if I didn't have the resources to make the decisions, then someone might be walking out of my house with forks. Good night.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host attended a Snow Strippers concert in LA, where he connected with trans furry and goth Mexican fans who appreciated his work and were kind and respectful.
Despite initial confusion and being mistaken for someone else (like "Fake Mink"), the host found a sense of belonging among fans who see him as authentic and unthreatening, even in unconventional settings.
The host reflects on societal shifts, including growing emotional disconnection with people over time, the absurdity of certain social trends (like over-the-top "white black guy" energy), and the lack of genuine representation in media, which he believes undermines real social progress.
Summary:
The host shares insights from attending a Snow Strippers concert in LA, where he met a diverse group of fans, including trans furries and goth Mexican youth, who were warm and appreciative of his presence. He notes how, despite being an outlier in appearance and demeanor, he was accepted and even celebrated, especially by those who see authenticity and vulnerability as valuable. He reflects on how personal relationships evolve over time, with older age bringing more emotional distance and a tendency to dismiss people who don’t align with one’s values.
He critiques cultural tropes such as the over-the-top "white black guy" dynamic, calling it performative and disrespectful, especially when it undermines Black contributions to American culture. The host also addresses broader societal concerns: the lack of representation in media, the manipulation of public narratives (such as the Iran threat narrative), and the growing sense of disillusionment with mainstream institutions. He argues that while people may feel hopeful, the world’s trends—like extreme wealth concentration, geopolitical tensions, and declining social cohesion—create a sense of dread.
Despite this, he remains committed to truth-telling and personal authenticity, emphasizing that real connection comes not from grand gestures, but from shared vulnerability and mutual understanding. He dismisses the Olympics as a frivolous spectacle and finds little value in celebrity or athletic triumphs, instead focusing on deeper human experiences and the absurdity of societal performance. Ultimately, he believes that meaningful change requires honest acknowledgment of deception and systemic flaws, not just surface-level positivity.
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The Snow Strikers concert is mentioned as a unique underground rap event where the speaker attended with a friend who manages underground rap. The event attracted a diverse crowd, including trans furries, goths, and Mexican-themed fans, and created an emotionally charged atmosphere, especially when the Russian performer was the focal point.
The speaker found the experience enjoyable and meaningful, noting that the fans, especially the trans furries, showed genuine appreciation and warmth by taking photos with him and thanking him for his work. The event was emotionally resonant, with the crowd expressing joy when the Russian performer returned to the stage.
He means that over time, people from any background—regardless of identity, belief, or culture—will eventually recognize and accept his perspective, even if they initially resist it. He believes that exposure and time will ultimately lead to understanding.
He acknowledges the archetype as having a certain charm when done tastefully and with class, but criticizes it when overdone, such as when a waiter makes exaggerated, inappropriate comments. He believes such behavior is disrespectful and undermines the contributions of Black people in society.
He observes that the U.S. is facing serious challenges, including massive national debt, a potential war with Iran, and declining social connections. He argues that despite surface-level optimism, the underlying trends are concerning and suggest a society in decline.
He strongly dislikes the Olympics, seeing it as an outdated, trivial event that distracts from more pressing global issues. He believes the Iran war would be more engaging and significant than the Olympics, and he finds the spectacle of Olympic events emotionally detached and unimportant.
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