#456 - “RIGGED Game!” - The Fed, Rothschilds, John Kiriakou & Erika Kirk | Zach Foust

would you end up writing i wrote in i put in uh parentheses x and then cia with an arrow he's like that's fair like i like i sat it down right before we got on he's like that's fair speaking of x cia how do you feel about that john guy kirikaku john kirikaku are we rolling d all right we're rolling kirikaku kirikaku is a good friend of mine it would break my heart if he was still on the payroll and i would genuinely be stunned because of all the things that people publicly know that he's gone through that they put him through right but beyond that the things that he went through privately that he can't talk about yeah if he did that and this were a sheep dipping situation it is the most committed to a bit i have ever seen someone in my life and it would be it would be pretty heartbreaking wouldn't a guy like that though talking about the shit he's talking about about the people that he's seemingly involved with why would they be letting him talk his shit for so long he's doing a podcast tour about it well that's a great question i think there's i think there's a couple reasons there i think number one there are people who are currently in government despite all their own litany of pr issues who see him as it's advantageous some of the other people who are talking about not when we talk about epstein and israel and stuff like that that's not advantageous for him but some of the other things he talks about which doesn't go heavy into the israel thing he like alludes to almost like jd did the other day with with joe rogan he'll yeah i think he's a little harder on it than than jd because he worked there he had to work you know in situations with massad guys and stuff and that was a personal just disagreement they did not like each other but you know i think the other part of it is they they also already ran out of random through the system they threw his fucking ass in prison and shit like they can't really do anything to him he already had to had to plead guilty to a few charges that he wasn't guilty of like they already fucked over his whole life so at this point it's like they created this frankenstein and now they just got to deal with it you know i guess i'm just so pessimistic now especially when people talk about this shit like we know this shit's going on why are you so freely allowed to just because people say like once cia always cia i know he hates that i know he hates that phrase but it's like hey it's a fair it is a very fair point like my other friend andy bustamante he a hundred percent still works i've been saying that since the first time he ever came on here so it's but he would claim he doesn't of course he claims he doesn't he laughs at me but like you know on air off air i'm like you don't fucking fool me pal i see the government talking points but then there's there's what i worry about more is when it's someone who doesn't have you know you look across all these different shows that are happening now that have huge audiences and someone comes on shows who doesn't have a resume anywhere near government right but something's going on there i i don't know i don't know who those people are other hosts don't know who those people are but like why is why would messaging from whoever that might be and it's not one person i'm sure it happens more often than we think why would that why would they want these people to say these things whatever those are i think about that a lot i think about that a ton there have been a couple times where i've been in the studio and i've been sitting with someone and when they leave i think about it and i'm like some of that felt a little unnatural it's only been a couple times like why would they want me to know that type thing like where are you getting at hey guys if you're not following me on spotify please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review they're both a huge huge help thank you like what you talk with someone for three hours right so get to know them a little bit you get to know them why'd they slide in this thing at the second hour okay got it once we were already deep it kind of had nothing to do with anything and and then i'm like i'm just being fucking paranoid because what the fuck am i gonna do about it right youtuber so you're saying like maybe they had a little checkbox they wanted to hit before they got off with you exactly okay exactly and it never really came up it was kind of forced by them a little bit yeah or like a point that was made in there and then i'm like well how many people are going to hear this and then how many people are going to be you know think like oh i really like this person and then want to agree with them on that thing you know what i mean yeah that's why that's it's like a psychological thing it's very strange the psychological part we could get into this the whole entire time before we do by the way please this is your this is your plane sir go ahead we just we just opened this thing up it's fucking 21 questions right here but we've had we've been having a great conversation for an hour and a half i love your work man i love yours brother thank you thank you come here we're gonna reach yeah yeah yeah but i love your videos you are we'll get into your story today and everything but you are really speaking for so many people in the younger generations who to use your phrase are getting worried about whether or not there is in fact the light at the end of the tunnel and i think i think if more people like you are you know putting sunlight on there to be the best disinfectant you know maybe we can turn some things around here because i know you and i were talking we're both optimistic people and sometimes we're just looking at this world like what the fuck all the time but you know what was so so you were in real estate for like a full decade or something like that still am before and and you still are but like where you were full time in that dude selling houses all the time and then the content thing started we can get there but before that you were in the military as well yeah we're we're what part of the military uh so i actually joined the army national guard i did not want to do the full-time army thing and then my unit said as soon as i got back from tech school which was a year long i didn't know i was signing up for that so then i got home and they're like yeah we're going to afghanistan in a month like oh shit so i turned into a real army soldier real fast what year it's 2013 oh this is when afghanistan was popping yeah 2013 i didn't see anything nuts we got bombed every other week or so but like but but but like let me hear you hear me out hear me out these are like rocket propelled grenades coming off mountains where they're currently watching their goats half of them end up going into the river there's there's not anything like i'm not gonna sit here and be like it's it wasn't that crazy it was not crazy um i got more funny stories about when bombs are going off than any more funny stories like when they knew we had a basketball tournament going on they kept bombing us like every two weeks and i was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die 20 minutes because they knew our time schedule like oh they're gonna go to the bunker for 15 and then it clears and then it goes out they were just ruining our basketball tournament well that's i appreciate them like working on the schedule yeah they're my bombers on schedule it's more irritating than anything oh yeah july 4th hit it was gigantic bombings that day for sure for sure so they'd throw a bomb and then you guys would light some fireworks off and like go pretty much pretty much but i got out of that um and then i did two years active with in the guard working in their marketing department i'll make some of them in the marketing for the yeah for delaware for delaware and i enjoyed that that was like my first taste of having a little bit of creativity in a job and so i think that kind of unlocked something that now i get to experience a lot now did they let you really get creative no yeah no in fact back then they they got like a 50 000 sponsors we need you to make this uh 16 foot banner for the wilmington blue rocks i'm like how much 50 000 for the wilmington blue rocks all 10 people in the stands what if we fucking could we put that into a facebook ad i could make us facebook yeah i could make us a band we could there's so many kids on facebook and instagram right now we'd you know blue rocks okay and they just had they just had they had a budget that they had to hit they're gonna spend their money and it was what it was but i did get a little inkling of the creativity that creativity would lead me to joining the department of corrections as a prison guard you were a prison guard as much as that sounds believable yes and one of the worst they've ever had wait a minute what prison uh gander hill was the one i spent the most at which is actually not far from here wilmington how was that like that's a psychological it honestly not not bad to only be there for about a year the people that spend their entire career there it's really hard yeah it's really hard um and delaware is not one of those really hard prisons either it's it's pretty low key but still prison yeah and you're around people all day that are either there for their entire lives they're depressed you know they don't have anything to look forward to except like lunch and people that are doing the same thing they're like i'm gonna be here for the next 20 years and the next thing i'm excited for is is lunch and that's just the people you hang around with all day for 20 years and those people kind of become soulless you know people and it's not fun to be around there was not much enjoyment in that job but did you get because you're young doing that i mean that's that's that's an early job for you did you get some interesting perspective on life though like where you're you are you know you're there to do a job so sometimes you're talking with guys who are in there for whether it's 20 years or life or something like that like you know they made decisions that put them in a bad position obviously and now they just sit there and watch the clock and rot they die yeah i remember one good story that uh i was able because the main thing i would get in trouble for and i never got like written up but i could like talk to is i would talk to the inmates too much i would then like oh i'll be i'll be talking ball with them be like y'all see kairi last night you're like oh yeah like we were talking ball and you're allowed to you're allowed to you're allowed to talk ball with the inmates they're normal people i think kairi watches this show so oh hell yeah if he's out there what's up kairi you know i hey listen i was a calves fan when lebron left when kairi came to oh my god he was my god for me i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm for a little bit. - Kyrie. The truth. - And then he became the truther before him anybody up i'll rock with kairi man shout you out um shop the sherwin-williams labor day sale and get 35 off paints and stains august 28th through september 9th whether you're refreshing your interior or exterior we've got the colors to bring your vision to life and with delivery getting everything to your door is easier than ever shop online to have it delivered or visit your neighborhood sherwin-williams store click the banner to learn more retail sales only some exclusions apply see store for details delivery available on qualifying orders the one story i remember a lot is there was this one guy we were at a level four in wilmington a level four prison in delaware is almost like work release okay and so it's a it's a weird spot because you get this combo of people who like evaded their taxes with someone who murdered people 20 years ago and now they're kind of slowly getting back to society all right so here's a here's a novice take right here because i'm not familiar with the grading but why do you have those people if it's so close to a work release why do you have people who are in like prison for life there too because this is when they were and it's not everybody that they do this too but for the most part when they're getting towards the end of their sentence it like slowly gets them back in the society like now you can go get a job now yeah let's slowly get you back into it the end of uh the guy's life in in fucking shawshank yeah exactly exactly brooks yeah bro yep then he goes and does groceries for a little bit and then he hangs himself exactly that's that's it i'm sorry i had to bring it up it's sad you haven't seen that movie that scene kills me you haven't seen josh ingrid oh spoiler alert sorry you haven't seen the godfather i don't want to fucking hear it from you don't don't be making fun of my people you haven't seen godfather one and godfather two and you're in new jersey right i hear you left out godfather three there that was interesting godfather three misunderstood movie but you know could have been better we can both agree that one of the greatest trilogies was batman dark knight so it was ahead of its time beautifully ahead of his time i mean now we have the joker of tiktok now he's like people like the joker wasn't that crazy he just wanted the world to burn that's wild oh man the this this guy though that was at this level before he'd been in for 25 years and i was just getting started and delving into getting my real estate license so i kind of had the entrepreneurial bug and i asked him what brought you in here he was just shooting around and he said oh i was a drug kingpin tell me about it as i as i normally did which obviously i wasn't really supposed to but regardless um they also had an xbox that they snuck in and i played fifa with them once that was fun um beat their ass the that's a fun no i told i told him they could keep playing too if they beat me and then i won and they shut it off level four is different it's not like they snuck the xbox in but like you left and they're like oh thank god probably probably probably the inmates and the correctional facility um but this guy ran a he said he had over a hundred people working in his infrastructure top down from suppliers dealers you know who who were making sure that all the logistics were handled it was a full-fledged business yeah fucking general electrical over here yeah in the in the early 80s coming out of the 70s selling a black market item here i am trying to learn how to sell a home publicly online and you were selling things you weren't even allowed the market right and comes right to that i'm like i see a lot of what i'm initially starting to look at in the framework of a business that just kind of started off on a different i don't want to start a different decision maybe just they had a different position in life a little bit and so now they're going after something that was attainable for them but still i mean as crazy as you may say still is kind of as admirable yeah so smart people that existed in there was probably the biggest uh shift for me because i was raised in like a republican household we didn't talk a lot about the big social issues of the world and going from prison in afghanistan for sure shifted my mindset a little bit about how other people are being treated it didn't dawn on me as heavily as maybe it does in the last three four years but uh it's definitely a good perspective to look back on what in afghanistan because you said besides they would just bomb you on schedule oh cool with it what was really how cool the afghanis were yeah how cool the afghanis were we have we had uh this one fob fob uh i don't know if i can say the name um because i don't know if it still exists where it was a a small little area in the midst of a bunch of different uh hills we were almost in like a bunker base and it only was accessible by two helicopter pads and i was there for the tech there was a cia section of this there was we don't actually know who was there we think that there were also like high level seals and stuff because they come in and they're they're black hawks and not talk to us and go straight in but um when we were there i met a group of three afghanis who worked on what was called a blue green sector of our fob so it was their military working with our military and we just played ping pong all the time together cool guys cool and and cool guys could they have wanted to secretly cut my neck open maybe but they're really good at ping pong yeah and we seemingly actually connected on a lot of different things they had a lot of questions about america i had a lot of questions about afghanistan it's like you know we kind of both learned you know through months that you were kind of fed propaganda about each other a little bit so that was kind of a little bit of a little bit of an eye opener you know the guy that's making my sub you know does he want this war going on you know he's just sitting here making a sub sandwich yeah i so seeing that of course there were people that probably wanted nothing to do with this and wanted to make food there's probably an understanding among a lot of people that were there i don't know if i've ever asked any of the guys there about this it's interesting but you know where some of the people on the ground there not all of them like you said some may hate you some may love you but you know some of the people on the ground there know that you're there and you didn't decide to be there and a bunch of people are playing ping pong eating food or whatever they're like you know what if we'd grown up next to each other we wouldn't think that much different now i will say the guy that played a prank on me when he was cutting my hair with a straight razor no not fun that wasn't not fun yeah i'd been going there for a good month middle of middle of my haircut he starts going for the straight razor right he starts cutting me up in the middle of us in mid-conversation his he just goes full afghani speak uh which posh too was it was i believe the language oh no to his boy over there and he's like i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that and then they both started looking at me and i they could see my face shift and they're like they hit you with the alu walk bar or something listen i don't even know what they were saying but i was like this is it yeah this is it this is the straight blade is gonna happen and i'm it's over yeah but that was probably the scariest moment it was actually a lot of fun but the rest of it was fun yeah i got to work with a lot of ukrainian soldiers they just love to drink and party i was at one spot where there was only about like 10 american soldiers the rest were we forget how many different like countries just had the units in that place all the time with us supporting the effort or almost all the european countries australia they were all there would the ukrainians think of the donbass at the time who donald trump no who's donbass that's why he wasn't even a thought in 2013 uh what's it called the nests and i never remember how to say him the donbass region the thing they fight over in this war where putin's like that's ours and ukrainians that's ours and then the people that live there are like it's kind of theirs and then they're like no it's ours we'd have a thrilling podcast if i was there today but at the time at the time clue yeah you were there like right when this shit was popping off almost sure yep and you weren't paying attention not at all i thought i was there for uh serving america i didn't even know serving israel i was there no clue poppy fields and bb netanyahu were signing my paycheck oh did you get to take some party favors from poppy fields no i never actually saw poppy field oh you never saw one no you just heard about it i saw the the hill that mark walberg and lone survivor survived on that was kind of cool that is cool yeah i had the guy who was one of the dudes rescuing latrell oh okay so you've already had someone who's a lot closer to the situation you're absolutely right i saw it where were you i bled there you know what he did a month later what he killed bin laden no way that's the same guy same guy it was like a year later or something oh my god yeah that's like a whole thing on the internet he's retired now right yeah yeah he is retired do people think weirdly of him that he was involved in so many high level that whole dude that whole thing is one of the most toxic online conversations there is about people bitching about whether you know who killed bin laden or whatever i really like rob and i'll tell you this i 100 believe that rob fully believes that he fired the killing shots into bin laden but the fact of the matter is to quote rob like there's him and then the one unnamed guy who's never come out publicly yeah the the team leader at at the top those are the two guys who know what happened in there and it's i you know and i was i was saying this to him the other day on the phone i was like you know what's crazy this is like the greatest special op mission of all time ever pulled off like who the fuck cares why do people fight over this so much but it's just how it is because he ended up his name ended up being pulled public and all that and then obviously he went public after that explain why they threw him off the ship they've been oh the body yeah we did talk to him about that right right they didn't have any say in that matter that wasn't like their part of the mission they brought the body back they handed it off whatever happened there later i think you know the thought was they didn't they didn't want to create like a a shrine for him meaning like if he was buried somewhere people would eventually figure out where it was and become this like shrine for people who are anti-america or were like probing lodden but in the process i think what they did is they just opened creaked the door open for the conspiracy theory right when we walk through this enough to know if we can't see the body we're gonna have questions and i understand that like people now don't blame them at all with all the lies and bullshit we've been fed for so long of which you and i are going to talk about plenty of these today is so easy to just be like therefore everything ever isn't true yeah and it's fun too it's a lot of fun to say that i will say i fully believe they killed bin laden i i do maybe part of that is like i was sitting here with a guy who's on it yeah but i i do think they killed him yeah i think they killed him too i wonder about where what his actual position in all of it was yeah i mean at that point at that point especially he's a tired old man living behind a 11 foot wall who just to get some information from the outside a courier has to go through all these different places just to backdoor it to him with a letter you know so it's like i don't really know what kind of power he he had at that time other than i think i think the main conspiracy is it connects back to bush because bush's family and saddam's parents were connected through oil oh yeah the original book i see i don't know is that on your chart it is not 9 11 is not on my chart it's not on your chart i know i know why is 9 11 on my chart pull this fucking chart up deep 9 11 is not on my chart it's the most autistic thing i've looked at this week hell yeah dog it's the best compliment i've gotten all right so we we got five cells right here what do they stand for the spheres of corruption but what are these are the spheres of corruption this is just the culmination of a lot of frustrated content yelling in my car wanting to be in one place that's right um so that green cell right there that's banks private equity wall street all the finance stuff can we zoom in on that real quick so people can just see like see you just connected all of it and why are you laughing over there you're laughing over there amanda you see you see something funny this is american history where do you go chart right there is he in this i think that's john adams actually oh it looks like alexander hamilton my apologies oh i know why he's in there alexander hamilton gotcha gotcha yeah look at this yeah why is the founder of the first central bank get a big broadway show why do we do that epstein's gonna have a show here in at least five years call on it right now call on it epstein on broadway uh no this is pretty cool we're gonna go back to this later for sure because that's gonna tie in some things but that's banks what are the other four yeah that's banks so like at the top it's like ralph child and then it gets in like u.s history of banking this is government um so we have things like the freedom cities honduras gate let's say paypal mafia uh ron lauer uh i don't know if you know um uh howard lutnick oh i've heard of him okay i've heard of him i think he's heard of me too he's probably heard of you i hope not based off a prior conversation i sure hope not that's gonna have to stay an inside joke yes okay but he's got his own line here he's got his own line here he's got his own line here yeah howard's yeah scroll up real quick that's ron lauder we didn't have the mics and then there's ron lauder with howard or scroll down scroll down there's uh howard and ron lauder in that picture down at the bottom right in the right hand corner right now okay yeah yeah i see that yeah and then stay lauder fortune yeah so i try in this to try to make as many storytelling connections as we can like if you kept scrolling to the right here it's more on 9-11 yeah how that played out where he was how he profited off of american airlines the fact that school shouldn't have been in at that time he profited off american airlines after that yes uh bottom right far brothers right with uh his bald head and the two highlighted sections yeah i'm always down for a tangent on howie uh yes zooming right there so it says lutnick took anywhere from 15 to 25 million of the total 135 million dollar payout from american airlines he pocketed it it was actually oh oh right no no i know about that so that was for the victim's fund for canon fitzgerald that they paid directly into correct that's kind of funny that he did that yeah it was confirmed by his own board that's a little little little funky right there there was any money being taken out for his personal life like any it's insane a billionaire it's taking money from the victims of of one of the worst american tragedies ever yeah and we're not supposed to just we're supposed to look at that and be like that's okay and if that was the only thing maybe that would be the case okay he's just a greedy sob but you and i both know that we're not supposed to just there's there's so much that lines up in this guy i wanted to have a place where we can put all of the information not just on him on a bunch of different people yeah epstein bb den yahoo like peter teal the whole deal love it because we got to put it in one place because i feel we're so divided bro i feel there's a lot of people that are like politically activated and like i'm not like i have a buddy of mine who just recently got into sports it has been fun he's really enjoyed the world cup he just recently got into sports just recently got into sports wasn't a big sports growing up wasn't big sports just like started watching yeah yeah yeah yeah so like you get into sports right and you start talking with people that talk sports one of the first things as a baby virgin sports watcher they're gonna be like so who's your team who's your team i gotta know if i can like you right now who's your team yeah uh what sport i don't like the answer to that already what's for soccer football football 49ers i was a 49er thanks to my dad he was a joe montana he was from san francisco he was actually from arkansas so arkansas and delaware both not having sports teams we were free agents all right actually that's i'll accept arkansas we were free where i won't accept but yeah so i'll accept give my dad some love out of the depths of arkansas i'll accept it but uh i think politics is kind of the same thing you get you start getting involved in caring about maybe what's going on society one way or the next and the first question people ask you what team are you part of i gotta know if i can like you or hate you i think that's pretty stupid this tribalism of politics and as somebody who feels like the new guy the newbie because i wasn't a political guy everyone's yelling like you gotta be this team you gotta be that team like can we talk about housing and health care that's the trap yeah can we talk about things that economically stimulate the next generation and excite them toward being a valuable piece of this society a valuable piece of this capitalist economy a free market is determined by the people's motivation in mass to want to grow themselves and to grow themselves and to grow themselves so in tune it's going to grow the economy and we're not creating jobs we're not creating opportunity we're not creating higher education or at least making it more accessible we're only making it less accessible and that higher education now not even leading to jobs 100 so so where where's the like you said at the beginning like where's the light at the end of the tunnel economically i don't fucking know that's why i started just putting together this corruption map well listen it got here but it started with a very simple question yeah you know it started for lack of a better way of putting it the first question i asked when i put my pen down when you put your pen down you apparently never put that i didn't yeah take it take it this is like the this is like heath ledger's joker diary let's hope you're not taking ambient at night fuck it's got like drawings in here like that don't read too deep was that you or your daughter that's my daughter right there might have been me it depends on the night how much ambient like you said that's you yeah anyway what does that say 6 ad no probably 4 bc to 6 ad oh well maybe all right maybe the rabbit hole goes deep all right the first question was why can't my boys buy homes i made a living off social media selling homes to degenerates to degenerate degenerates because anybody could buy a house if you had a i could advise people to simply get their credit score above 620 have a full-time job of any kind really you needed to make like 36 grand a year you needed to make like 36 grand a year as long as you didn't have a lot of debt this wasn't before 2008 oh no this was 2017 2018 this is not reassuring this is real this is very short the fucking housing on one of the links right now you could pull up you could pull up housing affordability and and we can see it plain as day the the annual income now required to buy a home is over a hundred thousand dollars then it was if you have a full-time job you're not driving a fully financed mustang and you've made some payments and kept your credit score up i can probably get you into a house and i loved that because i was able to take people who did not have a college degree they were serving the military and got out like i did and get them started in asset accumulation because i learned very early on we're in a debt-based society inflation has to persist and inflation is going to cause assets to go up so if i can get you into a home you get some dirt you get a mortgage payment you can afford you're going to start growing in your net worth and i know a lot of the people i sold to back in 2007 2018 like hell yeah i got a house sweet yeah yeah but now it's not the same at all - Did you think about that back then? You just said something interesting there. you're like we're in a debt-based society because inflation has to exist did when you're at the beginning of your career doing this 23 24 out of the military now working as a real estate agent did you think about what you said out loud there and the fact that huh that kind of actually doesn't make sense why the system's set up that way not that it didn't make sense and not immediately it was like three four years in i'd say about 2019 ish um just because i got curious about the history of it you know the housing market really doesn't go in waves because i'd hear that a lot like the housing market goes in waves ups and downs it really doesn't it goes up the only two times it hasn't is 2008 1929 it's only two times you've ever had a crash right both had an abominable or just recourse for the working class the elites and wealthy kept buying everything up when all the prices went down the uh unemployment rate the great depression was like 25 percent like nothing was good for the working class they were wearing bearish and trading in seashells and then the elites were buying everything up and then you look at 2008 when families were getting foreclosures banks were getting bailed out you see the same thing just in modern day so there hasn't really been a correction or crash especially one that gave opportunity for the next generation so i do see people that will speculate and say oh the housing market's gonna crash okay like what if it does is it gonna benefit us what caused that is it gonna be 10 15 20 unemployment that's not good no it's because ai took all the jobs that's not good there's there's not a lot of lights at the end of the tunnel that i see in housing that's why i kept yelling we need to get you into an asset because this probably isn't going to crash and if it does you're going to be really happy you have this but i'm going to round numbers right now because i don't have them in front of me so just use these as an example how do you when you see them all out of whack though how do you say that to people when you see incomes going up i'm just making a numbers say an average of 10 while expenses are going up an average of 40 every year and then that trickles up into the houses as well where you also have the largest generation in american history holding on to these things till they die and they're they're just going to retirement now yeah boomers holding investors buying up any affordable house that hits the market they're buying up whole communities and it's not just blackstone and these private equity firms it's also normal mom and pops people want 10 airbnbs it's a huge problem that's why i got out of just to sell homes because it no longer became a do these five steps and you'll own a home they're like then there's 10 more buddy yeah i i it's like i got to climb the six foot ladder to get over the 10 foot wall and i got over the 10 foot wall and i was like yay now i get to teach other people how to get over the 10 foot wall and then slowly but surely it was 30 feet and now i tell people same ladder and i tell people it's 30 feet and they're like they need to fucking work hard i'm like you dick i watched the ladder not get bigger and the wall has extended i should have brought john in for this podcast yeah the wall is not the the wall is so insurmountable and they'll hand you the same advice they'll tell you to work harder say put money aside pull yourself up by the bootstraps right but it used to be a job allowed you to survive and if you wanted to work harder and thrive that was your choice yeah if you want to run towards something julie i had the opportunity to wake up and go after something yes right when i got my real estate license it was the first thing was ever really i was a fuck up pretty much my whole life this was the first thing i was really good at and it excited me why did it excite you because you got to help people get dirt and and like i mean that in a good way like get an asset and change their lives i think it was half it was somewhere between half of that half selfish it was the other side of i felt like had some control some dominion over my life and it was going to require more hours and it was going to require more of me but something about the future dividend of what i'm going to receive is actually based off what i put into it rather than if i was at a fixed income job it really didn't give them it didn't matter like when i was in the military they even made fun of people who strove harder for promotion as like tryhards right when it's like and then i could be a slack off this person be a tryhard if we're the same rank we make the same money yeah i hated that and i get that's how that system works so this part i had that freedom about it but then it started bleeding in the other parts of my life uh fitness you know how i was eating um how i was communicating and then it drove real estate deals in solely but surely but it did start with i see an opportunity for people to not struggle as heavily let me get you out of rental start building an asset start getting in that worth and that usually does lead the more uh how could i say like it's the house is like the birthplace of wealth the sale of a home is a lot of times of somebody's first nest egg of money and now people can't get into it so i i i struggle with seeing again the light at the end of the tunnel today where at the beginning i saw nothing but light why though you'll own nothing and be happy isn't that great didn't they tell us that isn't that great i felt like that was that just thanks wef thanks larry fink lawrence d fink yeah we'll talk about him sure absolutely but you were doing this for years and you so when did you start 2016 in real estate yeah no january 27 27 january 27 either way it's almost same difference meaning like you got to see the last of the what i'll call the roaring tens right where things were coming back but not for everybody right where the system was already teetering and then covet happens and it was the weirdest simultaneous like explosion in the sense that the housing market went off like crazy yes people who already had wealth ended up profiting off it tremendously with the whip and marole a lot of other people lost their jobs or lost their level of job forever in some cases and then housing market and the ability to own the asset went completely away or out of the the potential range for many people coming up be that you know young millennials and now gen z and stuff to the point that i've seen you pull up some charts where it's like the average age of the first time homeowners trending towards going to be 40 years old already is already is right now median age is 40 years old it's median right now as of 2021 meaning you got to watch if if the chart of like problem word if i'm saying problem is a chart going up like this you started here where it was going up already heavily post financial crisis and then you watch the fucking giant wall form where it goes up like an l and i only wish i knew at the time what happened in 2008 to understand you didn't understand that no no to understand the environment we were working in right there of this post could have been seismic crash could have been flipping of the economy that we instead siphoned money through think people like henry polson who was the secretary of the treasury at the time under bush and of course the federal reserve we congressionally and through the private central bank printed trillions of dollars quantitative easing was the way the federal reserve did it and that was the first time we'd ever done that people didn't realize and neither did i that was invented right then and there yes and then we did it again in covid and when we did it again in covid that's what forced me to go back into the history it's like why have we resorted back to this so you went back and looked at yes which would you to get into the history like what books did you read or do you remember where that started um the first one i read was probably the monetary history of the united states was a milton friedman book oh yeah yeah yeah and that opened my eyes to the federal reserve which i was already curious on because i learned at a real estate happy hour that the fed yeah it was like in 2022 yeah oh dude one of the funnest environments on the planet a real estate happy hour i'm the worst that you know i'm the worst at those i'm so bad you at a happy hour or bad i don't believe you no i don't want to be there i think you're the unpaid entertainment i don't want to be no because everyone there wants something right you know everyone wants something everyone's got like commission breath and i hate it i hate it i hate it um but so i would get there and i would just kind of find my because i'm a team leader at the time so i like had to show face some of these big big swinging no just he was there i remember he was there he didn't do anything memorable but yeah he was there um i just found like the biggest little social circle fit myself into it and they were talking about rates at the time that was controversial and they talked about the fed so i said oh yeah the federal reserve is not a uh not a government entity and i was sitting there thinking like yeah it is got the word federal right in it and then i looked it up i was like oh it's not and about a month of research led me in like yeah let me let me get a book or two can you explain that to people like why that is and what what you mean when you say it's not because like you said it's in the name good marketing by the way yeah it's got the word federal and reserve but the fact of the matter it's a private entity that doesn't force any reserves so it's it's a terribly named entity it's atrocious i don't know if we can look it up because i don't even know what we'd look up but in march 2020 because of covid do you know what the result okay so quick quiz before covid do you want to guess how much the federal reserve required banks to hold like what's the reserve it was called the reserve requirement oh i had to learn this back in the day yeah there's so basically each bank that orchestrates in the in the financial institution that is our central banking they have to hold a certain amount with the federal reserve just to basically make sure we have a safety net of liquidity it's it's like forcing them to have skin in the game yes in a way yes i don't remember what the amount what the amount was for the life of me five percent five percent five percent covid five percent of what for people five percent of total assets under their management. It's my understanding, like the actual, like, capital cash so if i have a billion dollars sitting in my bank like as the actual bank yes physical money 50 million dollars yes got it okay as of march 2020 was reduced to zero to zero yeah a nice safe number well you know what listen listen at the end of the day when you have a fire sale you just gotta everything's gotta go right back to your you did a garage sale last week hell yeah everything's gotta go cleared the spot out right listen this is like six months after the late great j.e died you know so yeah let it all just like the joker he just wants to see the world burns fucking make it zero let's do it everything burns so there's it's not federal it doesn't hold reserves and it started in 1910 over 1907 bank panic after jp morgan bailout the entire country led to a bunch of billionaires meeting on an eye or millionaires at the time meeting in an island for 10 days jekyll island oh yeah you 1913 uh 1910 actually and nelson aldrich a senator at the time was the one who took down all the notes this was a meeting that was nice yeah super nice super nice of a senator to take down all the notes and then took the notes and said to congress this is my plan and presented it as his it was called that's what you have to do he does and he made sure of it too because you know what he called it called it the nelson aldrich plan that's right he came up with him very sure that he got credit for this human nature never changes including the people who are aspiring to political office yes sir do someone else's work take credit for it amen and then when he officially presented it i believe in 1912 they launched a committee called the puho committee to base puho p-u-j-o and the puho committee was launched to investigate whether all these bank leaders were operating in a money trust and whether or not all of these things that were being passed and all these bank leaders that were seemingly bailing out our country at a whim's notice was there something operating behind the scene do they own too much and they found that the people who were operating in the banks were operating in the banks of the banks and they were operating in the banks of the banks and they found that about somewhere like 26 percent of the nation's assets were held with about four different corporations so he determined which were those corporations it was jp morgan carnegie right one of them is standard oil vanderbilt i don't know we should look that up yeah let's look it up we should look at jp yeah the ones because the puho committee has a full so dave who were the four four corps and concentration statistics yeah just ask who those four corporations were and the corps are right there and it was 26 percent not 28 sorry yeah the puho committee i believe it was 180 individual people and then four corporations that they found that about a quarter of the nation's wealth was was held with that's healthy that's that's what you want the foundation of a it's a lot like what's going on today so yeah that's like super healthy what's going on today i think it's proof that it's always been this way quietly but yeah so 42.9 of america's total banking resources held by its 20 largest banks furthermore it found that 180 individuals covering 341 directorships and 112 corporates eight corporations possessed 22.245 billion dollars in aggregate resources to capitalization finally it concluded a system known as banking ethics restricted competition among banks and firms so jp uh chase is this the seven these men the resources the seven banks and trust companies trust company i think that guy was killed in the titanic right national bank of commerce liberty national bank chase national bank farmers loan and trust company control the estimated 2.1 billion and it says led by jp morgan george f baker and james stillman right the whole point of this though uh and you'll see the one name in here that actually if you wanted to uh stretch a nice a bit of yarn samuel untermeyer and the rothschilds aren't far apart because he's untermeyer samuel untermeyer two months ago and he's been in the business for a long time and he's under the rothschilds for a long time and he's been in the business for a long time and he's been understanding was a close relationship with lobenco and lobenco back then was rothschild that was the rothschild arm between when how was it their arm like what it what did they do lobenco um i'm not gonna act like i know specifics on what they do actually we should look up specifics on what they do while we're here when in rome you know all right lobenco yeah like i said you gotta you gotta it's a lobe lobe l-o-e-b oh i was gonna yell at google ai that would have been more fun all right so lf roth yeah it's a it's a long piece of yarn from those two let's see the connection between lobe and rothschild they typically mean one of two distinct historic american investment banks that were formed by overlapping groups or partnerships lf rothschild and co and coon lobe and co which by the way quick tangent before i read this your fucking rothschild social media video is one of the greatest fucking things for everybody thanks dude you're just talking to yourself in your car for 10 like a schizophrenic yes yeah i need someone to take like a man on the street video of you making that video like in the background like when they when they take a picture like a tiktoker doing the dance no i need that not to ever happen anyway and if it happens i'll know who did it i'm gonna do it all right lf rothschild and co founded in 1899 by louis f rothschild this brokerage firm originated when rothschild went into business with leonard hockstater who had previously worked at the firm here it is albert lobenco despite the prominent name louis f rothschild familial ties to european rothschild dynasty that's interesting so who's lf i haven't even heard lf rothschild coon lobe and co founded in 67 by abraham coon and solomon lobe the firm became one of wall street's most powerful investment banks in the 19th and early 20th century the european rothschild family frequently shared financial power co underwrote massive here it is massive railroad expansions and worked closely with coon lobe and co's prominent leader jacob so that's it comes in on the back end what's interesting here is there was a documentary series i think they've expanded upon it with different eras now but back in i want to say 2014 2015 this series came out called the men who built america did you ever see that no so it basically covers the industrial revolution guys it's like i want to say it was five episodes one episode was vanderbilt the next episode was carnegie another episode was jp morgan another one was ford and then i want to say another one rockefeller was edison oh no no rockefeller was number two edison would be the one if you had those four to start in the last episode was edison i would honestly be locked i'm like okay how's this guy yeah i edison came into it he came into it jp morgan that's what it was because what what it would do is it would overlap all these guys so the episode would be on vanderbilt and then the next episode would be on on rockefeller but then vanderbilt would have meetings with rockefeller because they historically happened and like it would introduce characters and in a way and it was an amazing series it was also like inspirational if you're like a young kid in college like me trying to figure out what to do with his life and you're like wow these guys really figured it all out and then you realize that it was also the greatest capture in one shot of like one era at the time of wealth that had ever happened to the point that it created dynasties across what was the top call it three to five major industries that ended up building everything that came in america that's why it's called men who built america and that those types of corrupt institutions that could have been formed by such a powerful few persist today and i didn't figure that out till later and then i was like fuck so you watched that before having that realization yeah i was in college i was like smoking weed and watching like wow this is cool remember me and my buddy meat would just like watch that when we were hung over is your buddy meat yeah meat yeah no meats meats like ground beef yeah like like ground beef so my friends in college they were all o-limon and d-limon and my one friend dylan the first day of camp freshman year saw dan our buddy and he goes you look like a big piece of fucking meat all you meet i don't know it was a huge pause at the time but the reason was meat was about six foot 5 11 285 he squatted 750 pounds with dip in his mouth and a cigarette hanging out the other he was the one that wasn't like all of us he was like a fucking red neck from maryland and the most athletic white individual i've ever seen in my fucking life like did could do like pound for pound the strongest dude i've ever seen in my life but funny motherfucker but yeah we called him meat and to this day he's just fucking meat huh yeah i should have put more respect on his name yeah actually there's a there's a dead spin can you type in bucknell football team funniest pictures so summer before senior year he's been playing d-line and o-line for three years and four weeks before camp they call him up and they say meat can you play full back we need you to draw go down from 285 to 260 in three weeks he does it and then if we go there he is daniel mcmanus so so it was like he was a six foot 260 pound pound fullback the greatest fullback i've ever seen in my life by the way and the comments on this shit were just like a six foot 260 pound fullback what the fuck are they feeding these kids out there they ran like a fucking 4640 it was insane what dude after college he came to live with me up in north jersey and we took him into into the gym which was like this power lifting a boxing gym and he was way out of shape he was maybe like 305 at the time he was he box jumped 49 inches the first day and the fucking guy who runs the gym was a dude it's he's not human i've never seen anything like watching big individuals act mad athletic is the most impressive thing it's unbelievable and he would get like like he's the kind of guy that would come in and just like you know clean weight that you shouldn't be doing right away like out of form and just throw it down and like look at people and yell at him like he's one of those hell yeah he's one of those Hell yeah. Hell yeah. But yeah, so we were sitting there. We would watch this. This would be like our hangover watch on like Saturday morning before we'd like take like inordinate amount of pre-workout to go work out and then go out and do it all over again. But we were like, wow, this shit's awesome. These leaders of the industry. We could be like them one day. If we work hard enough, we could be like them one day. And now he's building like off the reservation, like self-sufficient housing for himself and shit. That's what it's about. See, if we all got there, started doing a little friend communities, started gardening with each other. This person does the contracting. That's right. Here's our plumber. I want that. That's right. Almost like a kibbutz. They kind of figured that out, right? A little bit. A little bit? A little bit. Yeah, they got that part, right? But anyway, how'd we get on that tangent with the fucking, with Loeb and Rothschild? Oh, you're talking about 1913. 1913. Yeah, because that created the central bank that still orchestrates our monetary policy. Today, Milton Friedman in that book I mentioned earlier, monetary or history of the United States would say the Federal Reserve was one of the main reasons the Great Depression happened. Now, what was his logic there? His logic was they're put in place to be able to create money when needed as a bank of last resort. Yes. And a humongous bank in New York, I believe the largest at the time fell and they could have saved it. And they could have. They could have saved the multitude of hundreds of banks that fell then afterwards. It was also this thing where it was kind of, and this is another thing that's alluded to in a book called 1929, a really good book. Is that Andrew Ross Sorkin? Yes. Yeah. It's a really good book. Actually, can we make a note of that? I want to get Andrew in here, 100%. Really good book. Yeah. Send him my thanks. Yeah, he wrote the Too Big to Fail in like two months. 1929, this was his second book, I believe, or second big one because, yeah. The Federal Reserve Bank kind of had this little bit of an ego battle with the speculators of Wall Street too that they both argue in their books may have just kind of misguided them a bit in trying to be the boss of the financial world when in reality they're there to serve the greater populace and make sure that our economy can continue to thrive. And we saw that the speculation inevitably led to the Great Depression, but then that the Federal Reserve could have, minimized or even alleviated the Great Depression from happening was Milton Friedman's argument. People will say- Why didn't they? What did Milton say? Milton in the book doesn't allude to a motive, to my understanding, or at least I didn't glean one when I read it. Maybe people will have their takes of like, he leaned one word at the next. I didn't glean a motive that he would pull out of it because some people will read it and take away like, oh, he said that they absolutely allowed it. I read it as they saw it and kind of just didn't do anything. They didn't take action when they should have taken action. And maybe it was a hindsight thing that they didn't take that action. Maybe it's because this was the first big economic crisis that the Federal Reserve would face. You know, this is the first time we've had a stock market bubble in our country. There was a lot of firsts going on. So a little bit of seed of doubt, but in, I think it was 2003, 2002 or 2003, Ben Bernanke is giving a speech, would go on to be the central bank federal chairman. During the global financial crisis. During the global financial crisis, yeah. Served with Kevin Warsh, our current guy. Yeah. He would speak at Milton Friedman's, I think it was his 95th birthday, just real old. And at the end of his speech, in fact, we could probably pull it up so I don't misquote it. Ooh, yeah. We have this speech on video? It's not on video, but we have the full transcript. Okay. Ben Bernanke, yeah. Look up Ben Bernanke's speech. Ben Bernanke's speech, Milton Friedman birthday. Okay. He'll get it. But at the end of his speech, what's he alluding to? He alludes, or he doesn't even allude to, and he says, and Milton and to you, regarding the Great Depression, you're right. We did it. We're very sorry, but thanks to you, we won't do it again. Can I devil play with those? Please, please. I love a devil's advocate. Because I don't have the context here. I want to believe, That's the end of the full speech. It's on the Federal Reserve website. You can pull that link up right there. I want to believe he fully said that because he's in the middle of a lot of shit. What I'm wondering is if this is like a birthday speech and he's like saying it as a joke to him. Maybe, and it was 90th birthday. Yeah, it's all the way at the bottom. Not that I like giving any of these people the benefit of the doubt at this point. That's the full speech, yep. And then the conclusion. I think it's the second paragraph in conclusion. Okay, for practical central bankers, among which I now count myself, Friedman and Schwartz's, analysis leaves many lessons. All right, so he's being serious. What I take from their work is that the monetary forces, particularly if unleashed in a destabilizing direction, can be extremely powerful. The best thing that central bankers can do for the world is to avoid such crises by providing the economy with, in Milton Friedman's word, stable monetary background. For example, as reflected in low and stable inflation. Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve I would like to say to Milton and Anna, regarding the Great Depression, you're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again. Best wishes for the next 90 years. So that could be like telling a joke at the end that's wrapped in a truth, and he's like, you know, we did do it. Or it could be he's like, I can see that. being funny, like to be there. I can see it being a joke. The interesting thing about Ben Bernanke though, I really, it's, now I'm going to be doing a deep dive on him again. I did this years ago. But, he actually, a big part of his career was he studied the shit out of the Great Depression and like how all that thing happened. And then ironically, he was at the helm when everything went down. But, you wonder if that's like a little wink wink wrapped in truth there. It could be. I guess we'll never know. We'll never know. The conspiracies go wild for 2008 because it was seemingly something that was avoidable. We ripped out Glass-Steagall in 1990. '99 that was keeping banks from being whatever the hell they wanted. Glass-Steagall instituted in 1933 in the Great New Deal, allowed banks to give mortgages, do insurance, be an investment, do it all. And then there was a margin rule changed by the SEC in 2004 that allowed these big banks to now invest with a larger amount of margin. Yeah, I think what, if I'm, it's been a while. I think with the Glass-Steagall, what it opened up the door for was being able to proprietary, do proprietary trading with bank assets that they previously wouldn't have been able to, which they then did at margin across assets. They held to go speculating. And it got riskier and riskier and riskier. Yeah. And then I think you're right. It expanded beyond that with a couple of the other ones. But when you look at Clinton's presidency, the two, two of the biggest mistakes you made were the 94 crime bill, which was a bipartisan thing as well as a mistake the whole government made. And Glass-Steagall is the other big one, because that opened the door for what became the financial crisis for sure. Now I thought you were going to say NAFTA as the second biggest one. Why the crime bill? You know. I'm not familiar with that one. NAFTA. Because NAFTA, that's the Northern American Free Trade Agreement. That's right. Allowed jobs to go to Mexico, Canada. That's right. Predominantly Mexico. Which I think on the surface certainly has some disaster written on it. I'm not the guy to make the commentary on that. There's probably people in the comment sections who are well more qualified to do that. Some we're going to bring up like the AT&T communications bill too. That was 95. That was like. What was that bill? It was more. A bill that allowed for monopolistic tendencies. We can look it up and read the specifics. Yeah, let's pull that bad boy up. I know Tiffany Cianci will quote the AT&T communications bill all the time. AT&T and communications bill. It should have been 95, if I'm remembering that one correctly. All right, we got it. So the Telecommunications Act of 1995 was a sweeping legislative effort that set the stage for modern telecommunications while introduced and heavily debated throughout the 1995, but ultimately passed and was signed into law in 1996. So, the core goals of the bill, the primary objective of the legislation was to foster competition, reduce government regulation, key elements included, let's go to home, market integration, allowing long distance carriers like AT&T, local phone companies, and cable operators to compete in each other's markets, deregulation, removing federal controls on cable TV pricing. To my understanding, the reason that this was controversial is because AT&T figured out if they could break themselves into three different companies, but still manage those three companies, that they'll bypass them. That's the law. It's my understanding of it. Yeah, if you're looking, September 21st, 1995, AT&T announced it would voluntarily break itself into three independent companies, communications slash wireless, equipment manufacturing, and computers. They said, we investigated ourselves and here's what we're going to do. Hey, Mena, can you tell me how many senators that voted for this bill were donated to by AT&T? Like, holy shit, bro. Yeah, actually, you know what? Let's see. Was AT&T- How many senators who voted for this bill were accepted campaign contributions at the time from AT&T? All right, let's test Google AI how fast you are. It's thinking. See how it can- It's searching. I don't even know. Did we track lobbying in the 90s? All right, an exact comprehensive headcount linking every individual senator's vote, specifically the AT&T campaign contribution is not available in a single public data, but how convenient. How can it's not available in a single public data repository? However, extensive analysis by campaign finance watchdogs from that era provides deep context on how the widespread the funding was. Ubiquitous industry support during the 1996 election cycle, the telecommunications industry as a whole contributed more than $4.1 million to federal campaigns. Open secrets records indicate that AT&T was one of the largest Corporal Pat spenders of the era. Nailed it. Watchdog groups like FAIR highlighted that during a crucial six-month negotiation window in late 1995, the telecom industry gave $640,000 specifically to the 45 lawmakers serving on the joint conference committee tasked with hammering on the bill's final text. Kind of like Howard Lutnick giving $5 million to the GOP fucking super PAC right before testifying that he lied like a dog. And got to testify behind closed doors. Well, this was the first one. That was the first one. Closed doors. But then he just went about his job that he continues to serve the American people out of the goodness of his heart today. I was so mad to see him at the NBA finals game. You know what? I told people, I'm like, first of all, don't give these people what they want. Don't invade his space. Don't touch him physically. Don't do anything that could involve law enforcement coming in there. But practice your first amendment right. And instead of yelling at fucking Victor Wambanyama, yell at him. That was the part that he's just sitting there next to, I think it was DJ Khaled texting the whole time. It's like, you don't have to, this guy is the person that makes me double, double think when it comes to like, we should not promote violence, but I'll, I'll air with what you're saying. Yeah. For YouTube purposes. It's just, it's concerning to me that he, and so like my dad, we play this game because he gets the boomer algorithm. And so he'll send me shit he's seeing. And he sent me this Howard Lutnick post the other day. Let me see if I can even pull it up. Uh, I gotta, I gotta talk to my dad too. I think he's getting that algorithm as well. Yeah. He's in the sauce. And he's, it's this post about Howard Lutnick and all the money he raised for the 9/11 victims. And all the comments are just like, wow, what an incredible man. I remember when he did this. Wow. It was so wild. And he made it all the way to the white house, just thousands and thousands of comments. And then you see him at the NBA finals sitting, sitting next to no security front and center live right there. This is a man who's committed egregious crimes against the country. And he doesn't even need a bodyguard. That's how little we care. Yeah. New York city's ready to light itself on fire over a basketball win, which I'm a huge fan of basketball. Yeah. Huge fan of all sports. Yeah. But we're much more willing to go ape shit over a fancy trophy for a team. You're not getting paid by. You know, it's funny, man. This is why I crashed out on him. So hard when all this stuff broke, he was a guy. And I don't think I ever did this publicly, but I can, I can tell you like my many phone calls over the years with my buddy, Danny Jones, he's got a great show in Florida and some other people when Howard Lutnick would come up over the years and, and in like a suspicious way, like, eh, this guy kind of smells. I would defend him because I had known, I had known of him to be somewhat of a, sounds crazy to say this, now, but somewhat of like a legend in the sense that yeah, he's definitely like kind of an elitist and a billionaire and all that. But this was a guy who lost 646 people in one day, including his brother, Gary, which is a very famous story. And his brother really did die in there, which is obviously horrible who, you know, had built himself up. He lost both his parents. I think when he was 18, had to basically like, at that point, take care of his brother, Gary, he got some help to be able to go to Haverford college and like actually pay for himself to go. So he was like orphaned at, at the, the first stage of legalization when his siblings were not and had built this whole career. And then everything comes down in a day and somehow he had saved this company. And so that just general story was always like, wow, guys, kind of a legend on wall street. And I, I ate that up without knowing all the details, some of the things we know now. So that's on me. But when I saw those emails in January, on January 30th, when, when those came out, that took that famous clip from pod horse one last summer, where he knew this was like a thing that the files might be coming out. And he went out of his way to concoct this amazing story about how disgusting this individual like step by step bar by bar, like a iambic pentameter almost. And then even like, like, you know, when people are lying and they're so scared about lying that they end up saying the very things that they didn't have to lie about that are the actual things they did. Yeah. Then he goes, so I didn't associate with this guy for business philanthropy or personally, and you go through the emails and you find example after example of business. Yup. You find example, an example after philanthropy, you find example, an example of, of, of him associated with the personally drinks with Howard Letnick in the years after the so cold story. And when we first were reacting to and going through the early files and like that came up, I just, I just fucking lost it because I'm like, you know, fuck it made me feel like an idiot. And that's fair. You felt tricked. I was, of course, but like, it's like, fuck these people. How did the, the, the audacity. And then he goes in front of that hearing and he doesn't have the decency to resign to say nothing of the fact Trump doesn't fucking fire him. He still stands next to him for everything. Since when is Donald Trump loyal to anyone that gives them even like a modicum of bad press fucking Scaramucci got 10 days. You know what I mean? And he's a billionaire too, by the way, it's like, you look at that and go, Hmm, that's interesting. You know, now what, now, what am I looking at here? Oh, just the comment section sentiment. No, I just, I just accidentally got rid of it, but I know what you're talking about. It's like, when you see that and you're supposed to see someone that at least had something you can be like, well, that's kind of cool. Saved his company, whatever, when they all died one day. And then it's like, well, that wasn't, exactly what we thought it was either. It just, it makes you very, very more cynical than, than I was at the top end of the system. And it drives home, by the way, a theme you've been hitting all day that I couldn't agree with you more about, which is that they've been throwing this left, right divided us since the beginning of fucking time. And w especially at this stage in the quote unquote empire, this is not a left, right thing. This is an up, down. And it never had been like just starting at that 19, uh, 10 meeting of Jekyll Island that came from a 1907 bank. Panic where JP Morgan bailed out our entire country. Can you explain what happened there? Yeah. Then we, we had a famine. Um, there was a famine. This was a big issue all throughout the 18 hundreds, uh, famines. We had a big locust problem at one point. Locust problem. Locust. I think it was like the 18 seventies was like a big locust problem. We were in agriculture for him. No, I don't think that ain't glyphosate. No, they didn't have no glyphosate. It wasn't working. That was, of course. Yeah. Yeah. It killed my family. My father, you know, my brother does a really good RFK. That's up there with it. Uh, they, uh, they were an agricultural economy and we're also a state bank economy because we do not have a federal bank. We don't have a central bank. So the rule was if like you operated in New Jersey, you bank in New Jersey, you operate with a bank out of New Jersey. There was no crossing state lines. And so you can't cross state lines. You just got to pack the money and cash in a suit and a suitcase. So imagine when all of Idaho making up a state, I don't know which state actually was at the heart of it. You know, all state of all Idaho gets hit by a famine and locusts. What happens to all these loans, all this credit that's been put out by these farmers and an agriculture economy, they don't pay them. Right. It's an off crop. And so we had these crises that would happen a lot since, uh, once the civil war would close out, it's, it seems like when the civil war closed out, we were going through a lot of economic, like, how do we, how do we shake through this? And then it was 1896 that we go through one of our largest crises he's on record. 3 : There's articles you can find at the time saying we might go insolvent. We might go bankrupt as a country and JP Morgan steps up there. And then again, 10 years later, 1907 steps up again. So you're watching private bailouts of our entire country. Our entire country is hanging by its balls and this one dude can save it. This was the same dude that also funded basically the entirety of world war one as he was leaving life and leaving it to his son, Jack. This is, this is a financial Titan that doesn't get talked about enough. I know I'll talk about the Rothschilds day and night Rockefellers. JP does not get talked about enough. And you walked from 1913, then you get into FDR's new deal. Then you get to the Bretton woods agreement in 1944. We try to globalize the dollar a couple of decades past. 4 : What happened with the globalizing the dollar and 44 3 : Bretton woods agreement was basically we saw world war two was waning the economic situation of Europe. Not good. They were in heavy debt, infrastructure blown to pieces in a lot of areas. And so we had the restructure, the world economy, America stepped in and said, we're going to be the world reserve currency. I believe there was like 120 something diplomats from across the country there stepped in and said, we're going to tie our dollar to gold. And that's going to allow you all to hold dollars, rebuild your infrastructure with the backing, knowing that if anything were to hit the fan, you can turn in what I believe was $35 and you would get an ounce of gold. So from there, 4 : That agreement, allowed for us to move forward as a, as a world post-world war two, where we globalized ourselves financially amongst the entire world. This was when we really became the captain of the planet. And we lied about how much gold we had. We said, started spending money on wars like the vietnam war we'd go through what's famously under lyndon b johnson i believe was called the guns and butter uh economic crisis where we're funding a lot of social issues and war we couldn't do both but we did you gotta do both you gotta do both you have to have a little war you have to live a little war you gotta bomb somebody yes the issue that came was france and other countries started sniffing that we didn't have as much gold as maybe we said we were to the point france actually sent a battleship to one of the harbors in new york demanding their gold what year real story uh i think it was either i think it was 1971 i think it was the same year i don't have a good french accent otherwise i'd say something sacre bleu yeah 100 give us your good you need all 35 points that's what dave's here for the ratatouille was that no no he's he's good bro that was great he didn't even speak a word of french when we were in paris but he did the accent and those motherfuckers thought he was speaking french right like it was like one of those where he's like speaking in rap or if you were even to just speak english in that accent i would think that you originally speak french yeah excuse me can i get a pack of cigarettes in the baguette please merci yeah merci that's right what do we got thief yeah france made its famous gold demands oh this was this was like the height of the nuclear scare for gold between 63 and 65 president de gaulle actively began cashing in u.s dollars for physical gold to undermine u.s financial dominance launching a secret operation to repatriate french reserves from the federal reserve in new york all right hold on a minute let's yeah that's something completely different yeah that's not because this isn't even about the battleship okay but can we find the battleship while i'm reading this steve perfect so the 1960s demand and repatriation in 63 de gaulle demanded all foreign-held french gold to be returned to paris to protect its leverage between 63 and 66 france exchanges dollar reserve for physical gold and transported hundreds of tons for the new york fed back to france using air for air france plant imagine someone just shoots down those planes it's all gone france further aggressively redeemed dollars for gold leading up to the 1971 collapse of the breton woods system in 1971 france sent a warship to new york to aggressively exchange u.s dollars for gold from the federal reserve this dramatic move rooted in a broader push by president charles de gaulle to undermine the u.s dollar's global supremacy ultimately forced president richard nixon to abandon the gold standard wait a minute and it was a french warship in the harbors of manhattan that officially made nixon go you know what fuck it what month was that into because i think the official decision was actually made august 1971 france sent a warship to new york harbor so this is why they officially made the announcement they started looking into it august 15th 1971 nixon closed the gold window in april do you know okay so this is another one you know blackstone right oh yeah okay it's like it's like you've heard of mcdonald's right yeah yeah so blackstone birthed blackrock blackstone originally was in i believe found in the 80s by schwartzman and peter g peterson and then blackrock came out yes blackrock yes there's a funded blackrock i think it was early 90s uh for larry fink to go 50 50 yes that is exactly right yeah 88 co-founder stephen schwartzman peter yeah to larry fink and then they would go public in the early 90s so peter g peterson founder of blackstone was on basically hiatus from his yeah let's get over his ceo jum he was a i think a ceo in the film industry doing some shit like in the 60s and then obviously in the 80s 90s blackstone and there was another company in the middle but i there was this gap in the early 70s late 60s i was like what was this guy doing it was like a two-year gap early 70s late 60s yeah he was in the white house he was and you can actually find this is he planting on tapes peter g peterson's wiki i think was he planting them tapes he was a part of the economics team that advised richard's richard nixon around global trade and it was actually peter g peterson's report that he gave him in april that convinced him that we needed to get off the gold standard so the founder of all of the all the bullshit we know is private equity today was the main reason that the inflation breaks were taken off of this economy which i find to be interesting and and for people out there what is the what makes that so interesting that it was able to what about that was able to birth private equities power so to speak uh the weakness of the dollar when we removed because there'll be a lot of speculation around this oh well we couldn't be on the gold standard we were expanding too fast didn't have enough gold my fdr did the buyback fdr did the buyback thing jfk wanted us to have a gold silver back dollar you can go into the logistics of it we couldn't do it today there's not enough gold on the planet um can we do it in other ways with bitcoin silver sure but the the reason this was such a big deal is at that point we could not create more dollars unless we got more gold when you remove the backing of the gold from the dollar you're now saying the certificate i have given you which at one point was if you had 35 of these certificates these dollars if you had 35 of these i could give you an ounce of gold which meant the dollar had a real true back value when you remove that backing you're creating a currency known as a fiat currency that's right which puts it in the same category as monopoly money yes it only holds value when we agree to it it only holds value when we're all playing by the rules of the game like when i land on boardwalk and you have a hotel there i don't give a shit if i'm not playing the game and i'm a bystander but if i'm playing the game and i'm about to run out of money and assets it matters a shit ton to me it's the same with the dollar as long as as long as we all accept it that's the value and when we remove the gold now it's all up to government trust for the value of the dollar the world reserve currency and we've seen ourselves and this is the biggest issue because that in of itself isn't the economic issue the economic issue comes with we now have undisciplined unfettered government spending that anytime we hit a deficit we say we can just print and we have slowly but surely been inflating not just america the entire world's economy because 60 of the world's reserves are held in the dollar we are ripping the entire world a new one financially every time we print money and we couldn't have done it the way that we're doing it now if we had a gold backing was that a reason why peter gp isn't presented that because he said i'm gonna make a private equity company and i'm gonna make a bunch of money off this probably not but private equity needs a fast growing expanding economy to create its 22 profit a 20 and two profit model of buying and selling companies through leveraged buyouts if they didn't have an ever expanding economy the model doesn't really work so to say that the two things are connected probably not do they take full advantage of the fact that we have an ever inflating debt-based economy that favors macro corporations over people yes it's like if i if i leave out fruit in the air mold forms peas just mold that found an opportunity on something like this that tracks that would make sense i mean it's also you know this is before the internet era that this happens but it's in the rapid post-world war ii expansion of technology in an interconnected world and therefore as the long term would turn out and continues to turn out even worse every single day more and more of a winner take all society well you know socialism i don't like it as a system it doesn't work and it's just been proven again and again and i've always said capitalism is the best system but i've always said it has its flaws and we are seeing its flaws magnified more than ever right now because you know we're living in a world where you know the 50 of americans don't have five hundred dollars in emergency funding but we just printed a trillionaire now if i say elon musk therefore is not allowed to be a trillionaire that means legislation has to come in from fucking people in the government that says he's not allowed to be a trillionaire and they set the bar at 500 billion or whatever number and then later they get pissed off and now they set the bar at 100 billion and all the way down and suddenly it create creates a worse problem on the other side that said it doesn't change the fact that the semantics and symbolism of being able to have people who have that much wealth at a time where so much of the world doesn't and is struggling and the basic evolutionary needs of continuing the fucking human race and the basic evolutionary needs of continuing the fucking human race to where people can't even afford to have kids anymore it's a potential decision is now being affected it's like maybe something's a little off kilter there you know our capitalist system changed in 2008 it to to to your point i think capitalism has has a lot of pros has a lot of cons the socialism angle though i think with the the pushback that people would give you on it doesn't work is well it clearly works for the elites anytime the the economy wobbles they get bought out or they get bailouts they get subsidies they get government payouts uh ppp loans we know that the elites were taking full advantage of that not going to the actual people that needed it on main street uh money printing quantitative easing if we didn't open that can of worms i mean i'll say we we we were supposed to have a much worse crash in 2008 it was supposed to be much worse the economy was supposed to flip on its head and those big titans were supposed to fall so that new could rise up that's how capitalism works is supposed to go in those waves dominoes but now we've created a world where we're not allowing it to fall and it's it's it's almost like a game of jenga it keeps getting wobblier and wobblier wobblier but they keep putting their hands on it to keep it up it's like how long can y'all keep this up because the whole point of jenga for those who've never seen the game classic game the point of the game is to take one piece at a time a foundational pillar from this block tower extract it from the bottom or middle and put it on the top that's right in fact there's a specific rule in jenga that says you cannot take from the top percent top three rows you can't touch so it is the job of the players to slowly but surely extract from the bottom in the middle put it onto the top and keep playing the game until it inevitably falls apart and right now i believe we're at the part of the game where everyone knows it's going to inevitably fall apart and they're trying to profit while they can that's why we see spacex ipos going and making trillionaires it's like you know how they used to start a game of baseball like i used to play backyard baseball and we start with the little the little hand thing sanchez yeah oh my god dude pete wheeler hell yeah dude it would start with the little hand thing right and they go up to baseball and whoever's at the top gets to start that's right it feels like everyone's kind of playing that in ai right now it's just one hand after the next let me see if i can cash out okay cool i'm safe i got my money we all know this is going to fall apart at some point at some point we're going to reach the top and there's going to be nothing left but as long as i can profit while it's happening i'm going to do it does that make sense yeah don't don't be the last one stuck on the ship don't don't be left holding the bag exactly um and i think you're right and i think a lot of people see that coming in the speculation around the ai bubble i'm not going to sit here and say i think it's going to pop in at this specific amount of time but i do think we will have some form of like dot com bubble like crash exactly yeah for every amazon there's 10 pets dot coms yeah amen and there's just too much speculation too many giant promises based around profitless companies on promises that are just at this point folklore until the ai can do what they want it to do till we get agentic systems and fucking quantum computing and robots shooting space lasers at us i don't know well that that's interesting that the way you put that and it's it's a fair point that like the socialism works for the elites because of what they do laundering the system the difference is they pay into that system ahead of time to actually decide who they get in there so the socialism is controlled by them and then that same thing bleeds into our accountability around crime uh-huh because it's socialism for that and that and that's why people brother people hit me up like you're a real estate agent why are you talking about epstein because it's the same fucking thing the same people that are being protected by this whatever it is that's protecting them is the same exact reason you can't afford a house and it doesn't take too many connections to get there the same people benefiting from this ever-inflating debt based use refocused economy that only wants macro corporate capitalism to survive while the normal working class has to just figure it out has been around for decades it's exacerbated right now in this k-shaped economy post-covid and it sucks to watch simultaneously them getting away with real life crimes real actual crimes simultaneously they're also just sifting away all the wealth from not just america the entire world it does feel like when you talk about someone's just gonna be left holding the bag and they're all just trying to profit on the on on the way there i try to zoom out to thirty thousand feet in the air and look at this and see all these different sectors like you did bubbles there that we'll talk about a little bit with looking at it from five different angles to put it all together and then you go in and you see all the nodes within but when i see on one hand you know the republicans and democrats and dc all insider trading and making all this money and being worth tens or hundreds of millions of dollars when they're operating on 174 000 salary and then also you have the symbolism of like mike johnson the speaker of the house saying yeah we should be allowed to trade stocks because we're making a great sacrifice to have 174 000 salary a year when the average constituent they claim to represent isn't even sniffing anywhere close that that's interesting but you know i see something like that then i see something like printing trillionaires with ipos then i see something like doug rushkoff talking about these billionaires he was advising about an end of the year world events that they can build their bunkers the best to survive then i see like the epstein class so openly saying yeah no we did it but what the fuck are you going to do about it like i see all these things that are going to so blatantly in your face you watch the outsider donald trump go in there and become the prototypical insider in so many ways and just do the opposite of all his campaign promises and look at you and say what are you going to do yeah you know it feels like it's either a really really fucking warped nightmare simulation or like they know whatever it is is coming and they don't care about what not that they ever cared what people thought but the optics they always tried to button up they actually tried to cover things up in the past now they just do it out in the open and they're like what are you going to do about it because it almost speaks it makes my brain go are they just thinking we're all not going to be here sometime soon you know like whatever that looks like whatever that is i can't help but think that when i look at the actions of all these people and the brazenness the openness of those actions you know why does why does benjamin netanyahu go on tv every day and say the worst possible thing from a pr perspective you could possibly say is it because suddenly he's a really dumb guy he's a lot of things the guy's never been dumb you know like doesn't it doesn't make sense to me and i and i don't know what to make of it do you think that here in america there's a reason a cautionary thought that you know like people like me people like you you know you have a huge platform here and you talk about risque topics you know sometimes government corruption find it like stuff you know we talked about john kirakou he's he's running around talking about crazy stuff like this happened in the cia and do you do you think there's a part of it where they want us divided oh yeah to the now and and that's that's obvious that's probably the wrong question but that they want us to almost know about the corruption that they they want us to see it they want us to be angry that they maybe they want a larger january 6 so they can have a reason to be angry that's probably the right thing to do but i don't think that's the right thing to do but i don't think that's the right thing to do but they need that moment they need that moment and they know they can fuel that moment if they just get them angry if we keep the money out of their pockets and make them angry so it's a great question and i think there's three doors here okay you're wayne brady let's make a deal one door one door is as bad as all this shit is whatever is way worse is so bad that i don't know what to do with it i don't know what to do with it that no one can ever find out about that so they're cool to just take this l on all this objectively bad shit whether it's like cheating the people out of you know a future fucking epstein stuff and what is that every politician has as fucked a kid and now they don't want to or aliens are running everything like something insane it's something insane yeah okay door number one door two i'm trying to remember if i can remember the doors now i was i was cooking them i'm locked in all right door number two is that they've already lost control of it and they genuinely actually for the first time because we're in this open internet age where the average person can't just be you know quietly muffled in the corner of the public square and taken into the fucking sewers without anyone noticing they can't do that anymore they were trying to do that in the 2010s and in early covid sensor people off the internet and then that kind of went away which is also interesting because like elon musk was at the middle of making that go away and he's got some interesting friends right and then door number three is yeah it's something like what you're saying where they want to piss people off so much that they cause something to happen that will create fear so that they can instill the opposite of sacrifice a little safety for liberty neither deserving safety nor liberty and say no actually that's how you deserve it you got to sacrifice it to get it you have the fucking president united states arguing for 702 if i see 702 publicly literally doing the meme and saying the opposite of the franklin line like as the president of the united states when he was the guy that was supposed to stand up against all this and it's like my only thing on that third one is i don't know how that'll work at this point yes you'll talk to some of your friends who are still completely asleep at the wheel and don't know shit and yes that's more than one or two people out there in america for sure but there is such a large percentage of the population i don't know what the percentage is but it's not five percent it's better than that especially among the two youngest generations who are by the way the most able-bodied you know that is at least aware that shit is backwards and fucked up even if they can't explain it all they can feel it right that if you tried to manufacture and that's what we're talking about here some type of quote-unquote event like that that would then say oh my god look you know uh fucking a hundred thousand people died guess we got to go into a security state but you'll be safe exactly i don't have to buy it would they have to buy it if the crime was so bad like look at what's happening in la right now like what if la was happening all over the country people couldn't get jobs ai was only making it worse people couldn't afford basic necessities it seems like the you're going to rent and be happy living a subscription life all while we provide this flock camera palantir crimeless society like i told you about the uh Right before this, I was driving on a road in Maryland, out of dc i'd never seen this before but it was a speed limit sign that had a like a green kicker on the top it said digitally enforced at all times and you could see the cameras lining it's like for a good two miles i'd never seen it maybe they're testing it but the one thing i could see immediately was not a soul was going more than two miles over the speed limit yeah yep it just seems like it's very easy to get to that point with us at this point they have something to lose those people that are still driving below this at the speed limit because they don't want to get the ticket yeah they even if they don't own homes anymore some of those people because there's less of that yeah they still have a place that they rent that they go home to they have running water a place to take a shit and a roof over their head and when they turn on their tv they have netflix and it's just good enough to distract them from actually wanting to do something about the life that they clearly hate because they have a job they don't like that they're never going to get out of in a home that they're never actually going to own but they have just enough when they no longer care if they get a speeding ticket because they can't fucking pay it anyway or god forbid maybe they're at a point where they can't even get a speeding ticket because they can't afford a car people won't go two miles per hour there it's like the road to and i and i i advocate against this i want to i want to be an optimist i want to figure this out i i want to have a better future i do too by the way just for clarity oh yeah you're not talking about this i i believe you but it's like the road to revolution isn't necessarily this straight up line of like everything is good to it's a little less good to it's a little less good now people are pissed it's less good people are more pissed it's less good people are more pissed revolution it can happen like that emotionally where people get more and more pissed but it can have lulls in there where where people get apathetic they're getting more pissed but they've been pissed for so long that they're like fuck these people they never change what am i gonna do about it and they go home and they jerk off to fucking go to sleep and they forget about it and they wake up the next day and do it all over again eventually then it gets a little bit worse and it gets worse to the point that it feels like someone's taking a fucking lighter and bringing it a little too close to their skin but now they can't sit here being apathetic and ignore it and at that point if enough people come together well you got a problem my friend do you think that's why the muzzle velocity news is so in our face constant new headline new breaking news new thing to be angry at do you think it's to force that apathy by drown by drowning everyone in noise yeah drowning you in things to care about you don't even know what to put your effort into you could just as easily pour your effort into gaza as you could the epstein list you could yeah you could easily listen to the maria farmers of the world why the hell is no one listening as you are watching you know oil shorts get profited on by tweets that's right it's like there's nothing and now there's a tweet uh truth premium you hear about this truth print oh yeah i don't know what it's called it's it's true social they're selling a no this is real they're selling access to trump's market moving tweets to banks and institutions before they go out so they can come on seconds heads up doing this no it's a real thing what our buddies go out go go at it over this stuff and yeah yeah oh oh wait so kish was calling out john on this one john was like this is capitalism dude oh no no this is insider trading this is insider trading we'll work on them tweets are moving markets and now they're monetizing it all right trump media pitched hundred thousand dollar monthly fee for fastest feed of u.s president's post sources say this is what i meant when i said they're just throwing it in your face so much that you're i don't know if you meant to do that but this is this is case a exactly what do you get mad at there's there's so and it's not just trump biden's economy fucking sucked got torn apart mishandled uh mishandled all the inflation that came from covid mishandled the supply chain breakdowns uh immigration corporate regulation all of that but you can look at trump's first term and there's not a lot of glowing remarks you can look at obama's first term and there's not a lot of glowing remarks you can look at obama's term there's not a lot of glowing remarks you really go all the way back to clinton and then there's some people who will be reagan apologists i'll be on the side of reagan fueled all the things that broke in the 70s deregulation yeah the deregulation the work workers unions the new tax bracket system we got so far away from the top marginal tax in the 50s it was 90 did many people pay it no because they got away with it through tax loopholes the same way they do today but just in real estate like little simple things that aren't illegal like legal like 1031 exchanges that keep you from being able to pay taxes as long as you buy another investment property or being able to avoid capital gains in other ways like there's so many loopholes that exist in investing in uh just this this corporate economic sphere that i'm not even privy to hell jeffrey epstein might have had his entire prowess around his ability to avoid taxes it might very well be the case uh and we haven't fixed any of it trump even in his hill the hillary clinton debate he's not going to be able to pay taxes he's not going to be able to pay taxes he's States went on and said, you know, I have avoided my taxes, a lot of them, because I play by the same system that's already been created. That's right. But it's been a decade and none of that's been shifted or changed, which again, gets me to the point with housing, which is of course, where I'm based. And really the only thing I would consider myself even close to an expert in, in real estate, I don't see any legislation currently in place that would make a house more affordable, make rent more possible, create more supply, lower the regulation costs, lower the regulatory costs, uh, make it cheaper for builders to build smaller homes or be able to be more creative with, uh, container homes, tiny homes, 3d printed homes, building more vertically than horizontally. Big problem in Delaware. We have so many core issues with one of the core economic platforms of being an American owning a home, having some dirt, having a little dog that can run around your pick fence on a property you own and could paint pink if you'd like to is the American dream. And we've, we've ripped it from the entire generation coming up next to us all while they don't have jobs all while they don't know if robots are going to have their job all while we don't even know if we're going to be the hegemonic leader of the world in the next 10 years, you're creating a beast. That's got nothing to lose. Yes. I mean, just the one stat that gets me, dude, you could probably pull this up. We don't have to, but, uh, I think it was 2016, maybe it's 2012, more than 50% of under 30 year olds were married and had a house. It was like 51% married and a house today. It's 12% and dropping dramatically. We've gone from one out of two to one out of eight. So just like you said, you're building a childless. Well, they must not be working. Spouseless bunch of fucking lazy, stupid. Yeah. Gen Z is honestly probably the dumbest generations ever existed. They're not the most educated. They don't pull themselves up by the bootstraps. They're clearly not the most physically physically fit generation that currently exists. They're of no threat to the future construct of America if they're not properly fed or sheltered. So why care about them? Unbelievable. It's just like I, when I hear those talking points from boomers, I'm like, do you walk outside? The statistic reflects a past era rather than a recent one. Historically about 52% of America of Americans under 30 were both married and owned a home in 1960. That figure dropped to 25% by 2012. The recent data shows it has plummeted to around 12% to 15%. There it is. Yeah. I mean, that's just like. See, but that though says it was 25% in 2012. I had another graph that showed it was higher. Regardless, it's still a steep drop. It's still a steep drop. I just like to be spot on with my stats. No, that's all right. But like, that's why, that's why Dave's here. Like, so we can get it and no one can get all that. But like point remains. I mean, it's, it's a steep, steep decline. And like generationally speaking. Average age of our first marriage now 32 years old. I didn't know that one. Generationally speaking, man, you look at, society, you ever read the fourth turning? Yes. Okay. So, you know, and I'll have to explain in for people because I do that all the time. But like, you look at these, you look at these, it's an amazing book. You look at these four different generations that repeat again and again on the same 21 to 25 year cycle. And they always exist in the same eras of a problem, whether it's everything from a good era all the way to like the crisis era. And, you know, the millennial generation of which I'm on the farthest back end of it was, supposed to be like the hero generation. There's the last time this generation happened in the cycle. It was the greatest generation, the one in fought world war two. And yet when I look at the generations, I think if I were planning social collapse, I would have foreseen that cycle happening. And I would have made sure that I did everything I can to neuter the generation that's supposed to be heroic. And when I look at millennials, especially like the top half of millennials, they're kind of in like no man's land. They're kind of in like a, you know, man's land to me because the system happened as it did. When they were young, they knew a world with without technology. And if they're older millennials, they knew it almost all their childhood. And then suddenly they were given these shiny fucking crazy tools with social media and stuff when they're 17, 18 years old, and they bought into it all the way. And now they're 39, 40 years old. And they kind of accepted the world that was set up for them through the, through that, you know, tech system. And they're realizing, oh shit is all wrong. Like I still don't own a home. Maybe, maybe I'm, I don't have kids. And now my future is more behind me in some ways, as far as like trying to get started then. is in front of me and so they've been neutered whereas you look at like what the next silent generation was supposed to be the generation that grows up as children during the crisis that's gen z and they're young enough to have grown up in those times and be really fucking see the malaise and be like fuck this and they actually have some strength to them the question is have they already been sidelined enough from having any potential in the real world i hope this is making sense to you that like yeah they don't have the economic or collective meat leverage to do something about it i think about that a lot because if you were to get the gen x boomers on the same page of some form of let's say like financial strike you know they have enough money through their corporations investment portfolios real estate holdings that they could actually make a sizable footprint in any type of revolt yeah but if gen z were to say we're just not going to come into work like okay we'll just make some we'll get ai to figure that out still here yeah so no that's a great point that's a great point i don't know how like not a white pill one but a great point i don't know how you fix that it's so i i agree dude i won't be i mean i get people that want to leave the country like i i truthfully and honestly understand like people that are single and make a decent enough amount of money doing something digitally that won't go to greece like i get it and that's a something i never would have talked about growing up you know dual military household as military brat did the same thing myself and also really benefited from capitalism like i am in the top 10 i'm not going to pretend i'm not i really benefited from capitalism but there's this this this weird sociopathic tendency of this american version of of corporate capitalism that breeds us to not worry about those that are not even ever finishing one economic race meanwhile you're finishing your seventh like no one ever gets to the finish line and turns around it's like you caught you were describing this earlier like you caught the last fucking jump yeah yeah it's like the action start the action movie where you have the four or five people robbing the vault the guys in the van like i hacked the system but they're getting in like blah blah and then boom the alarm goes off yeah you're the star of the movie you get out of the vault first you get out in fact actually you get out second because you grab someone who's not paying attention and throw them out that's right and then you go out that's right i'm the guy who's like sorry kind of losable in the plot kind of losable you don't know i'm kind of the nerdy guy you gotta got a little little cheering on for him that i slide right under that vault door as it's shutting that titanium door you think it might smash me but this is a pg-13 movie so probably not going to see guts but you think about it and then i make it but you know amanda's dead but amanda's on the side screaming banging on the vault not smashed underneath she's already burned to death done okay god that's right so you're underneath the bank vault yes that's how i imagine it was fast it was really quick it was she didn't scream much you couldn't hear over the alarm actually no it was screeching in our ears yeah yeah we had to get out of there or we all would have gotten caught i don't know what to tell gen z because i feel like they're on the other side of the vault door that's you're picking up what i'm putting down so it's like are there going to be people to succeed yeah are they going to be people to succeed yeah are they going to be people to succeed are they going to be successful businesses yes are they going to be people who literally pick themselves up by absolutely nothing and nothing backing them that make something of themselves in this country that could only be done in this country yes will there be a such a smaller percentage of them that do that now versus 10 years ago 100 it was going to be such a smaller fraction that were able to actually do that yes i still think i think america's i'd say probably by far the best country on earth to exist in if you have a major talent and or you want to you want to sacrifice everything to win the game whatever the game is right but if you want to live the good wholesome life work at a good job maybe working for someone else but like have something stable have a family at home with white picket fence and know that you're living clean it is now maybe it happens sooner in my life and i just didn't realize it but for the first time in my life i am realizing there are better better places potentially to do that than here i'm not saying it's a lot of places but there are some i when i was over in italy i made friends with this kid lorenzo who's like 23 business guy self-starter you know has big aspirations and dreams and he wants to come america to america and he's absolutely right it's a way better for what he wants to do and the things he wants to get into way better opportunity but he and i were having this conversation about like if you're just kind of you know want to open up just the family restaurant and do that and live a decent life you know i was telling him i'm like it's not the way like he's explaining the system to me i'm like it's not the worst thing here like that that you that could work and it could be a lower key lifestyle and nicer here in some ways for you and that we got to fix because america was always the place everybody wanted to come to in fact they still do from a lot of places we see people pouring across our border who in those respects yeah it's way better for them than they're here even even in the lower class than where they're coming from i'm talking about across like other first world countries you'd call it the fact that some of them for a certain class of people could have some maybe better lifestyle opportunities is wild and we we got to fix that you you you're right because i walked through my own life and i think like where i'm at now i got a little homestead i got my daughter got my wife 10 years uh 10 years yeah good for you man early military marriage that's that's how it goes i just want that i just want to wake up to my wife every day i want to teach my my daughter about life and and what's good what's bad and let her decide what she's going to go after and watch that bloom i want to watch her lead the federal reserve yes i want her to one day be the chairman of the federal reserve bank of the united states that's right um that or a mortgage officer the the beauty and simplicity of of not having to worry about bills being paid for me while simultaneously getting to live out of the dirt plant seeds have rain barrels collecting my water slowly but surely get it off off grid so that i'm self-sustainable learning how to build fences and sheds and and actually feel like i have a skill set has been much more fulfilling than really anything else i've ever done and i i wish that we lived in a world where like i'll shout out sean my long-time video guy he just wants to live a simple life yeah he doesn't want to run a business he doesn't want to be an entrepreneur he doesn't want to hustle he wants to travel and climb mountains with his with his girlfriend he he wants to go on trails and camp and and learn about different cultures and i think that there was a time in the american lifestyle where he could have chosen to have done that without needing to grind just exist just have a decent job save some pennies and that's for you just doesn't exist now and i might sound like a a puss for saying that you're like oh you little hippie but like what is this capitalistic world we're just grinding our lives away for paper so that one day we can be really old and maybe not have to grind away for paper yeah it's it's kind of weird uh the the lifestyle and opportunity that can come from it is obviously there but when we're in the richest country on the planet there's more there's more wealth than than the world's ever known at one point in time like for us to still have a growing homeless population amongst our veterans for us to have a growing wealth gap that is seemingly pricing gen z out of ever being able to have a house that's not economically in any form good but yet we'll look at the gdp and we'll tout the stock market or pambani we'll talk about the dow jones being over 50 000 meanwhile we're talking about I can't stand the rhetoric around the economy constantly just being this inflating asset that is stocks, that is homes, that is our GDP. Oh, well, the normal everyday citizen does not feel that economic stability or wealth in their own pockets. In fact, it is being ripped from their pockets without them knowing because instead of taking the dollars out of their pocket physically, they're just slowly taking the power away from the dollar in their pocket with inflation. And we're getting lied to about it. And I hate that. Yes. It's a resource allocation game. Yeah. That's a good way of summarizing. Because it's still wealthy, but like the wealth is, it's, you know, it's like oil and water. Something's got to rise there. And so it's rising to a smaller percentage while the distribution changes overall, but the amount stays the same. It's just fewer people enjoy it. Now, how do we, you know, it's not a great time right now, but you got a big book there with a lot of numbers and a lot of action. Yeah. It's a lot of ideas. Right. At the ground level, you know, everything, let's say everything's burned and we're in the ashes and we got to figure out how to grow a whole new beautiful farm here. What kind of seeds do we start with here? What are the first things that we can do from a systemic level outside of, because I do think this is a big deal, but outside of like, well, let's prosecute the people who have been controlling things and maybe, you know, a part of the Epstein class and stuff. what are some things for the average american that we can do to start to flip this switch a little better. I'd start with number five on the page you got right there. Guys, just notes, just notes, just notes. All right. Government reform. It would have to start with the lawmakers. It has to start with legislation. If we do not get insider trading out of Congress, if we do not enforce age limits in Congress, term limits in Congress, and I think that their pay should be tied to the median pay of the constituents they represent, which would mean they're all getting paid something different, but they would actually share a benefit in getting that income up for their constituents because then they would get paid more. Right. I think that we need to just get people in office that actually care about people over profits and getting back to the original setting of our lawmaking. It was supposed to be a normal individual comes into Congress having originally worked a normal job within the community. They serve their country and then they go back into the community. Now we have lifetime politicians, which is completely different than what's actually going to create results. Can I read off? Oh, please. If you can read it right here, please. Yeah. Listen, I got horrible handwriting. This is way better than mine. 10-4. So under just the government reform section, you were just referencing balanced budget every five to 10 years as opposed to over a term. We'll come back to that because also we have 40 trillion in debt right now. And stock buyback and board positions for any lawmaker for 10 years post-term. Tie executive pay to medium workers' wages. You explained that. Lobbying will be grandfathered out for all future terms. I love that. Good luck as well. Go ahead. I was going to say, and that's a Vivek Ramaswamy idea. If we grandfather, you get the opportunity to make heroes out of the people currently in and allow them to keep taking their money. But the moment they bounce, whoever fills their position wouldn't get to. Wait, say that again? So if they were to vote it in to say, we're going to go ahead and grandfather out future terms in Congress from taking either corporate or foreign spend lobbying, you could make it so that like, let's say Nancy Pelosi, you can still take money from all these lobbyists. But the moment Nancy Pelosi is out and someone takes her position, that person will not be allowed to. Got it. So they would be the hero for the future. But simultaneously, it's kind of realistic because I don't think you're going to, and like you just said, the ashes are on the ground. So maybe we don't have to do that. But if the ashes weren't on the ground, then we're going to have to do it. And we needed to get these people to actually do something. We couldn't take the money directly out of their pockets at this point, unfortunately. All right, this next one, enforce antitrust laws to dismantle corporate monopolies. The oligarchy is obviously in control. We have to have a world where there's at least open and honest communication around, like the Federal Reserve is a good example. We need to have more open, transparent, where are you getting the numbers from? How are you calculating the data? What data are you working off of? Because it moves the markets by hands. We need to have more authenticity in our lawmaking as a whole. We shouldn't have these omnibus bills. We shouldn't have legislators that are not even reading the bills. Their team reads the bills and gives them summaries. We need to have people in there that care. And if those people actually were to care, we could create laws, create committees that hold these monopolies accountable. We need to reinstate Glass-Steagall. We need to actually create antitrust laws that work. And that starts at the ground level of legislation. There's nothing the common man can do to stop a monopoly. Right. It's supposed to be the law. It's supposed to be the law that does that, and the law is not doing that. Let me add a part A to that based on something you said. I would make a limit on how long a bill can be. In terms of how long you can sit on the voting floor? No, no, no. Sometimes, a lot of times, these lawmakers will be handed a bill this thick. Oh, how long they physically are. Got it. At two hours before they got a vote. Yes. Ain't nobody knows what's in there. All you need is one little sentence in the middle. It's like you're reading a story like, the little girl. She was like, you know, Glass-Steagall was going to the river, and then she saw a fox, and then she went and, you know, played with a deer. And then, by the way, we're gonna print $7 billion and send it to Israel. And then she went home and had dinner with her grandma. It was porridge. No one sees that sentence. It was like the housing bill had a bunch of stuff in it. It had nothing to do with housing. Nothing to do with it. So getting rid of those omnibus bills and creating single-issue bills, too, I think is a big part. I didn't even see that. Your next one right here, single-issue bills on all legislation. Love it. So, six-year term limits for all senators and representatives. I agree. Remove corporate influence from elections by enforcing strict limits on campaign contributions and implementing publicly funded elections. The other thing is, dude, now that we're in a full-blown social media society, where even, like, a lot of boomers are on there, it's not. It's never been easier to, if you have the chops, get attention for free. Why do you need to fund a campaign? If you're any good, get on there and use your charisma, even if that's for the worst, because you're just a charismatic liar. But, like, let the market speak for itself. Right. You know? Like, now's the time. All right. All those things are fucking great, man. You know? But the other problem is all the people that have to vote on these are the people in the system who are incentivized to vote against it because it votes against their future interests to be able to have power or. Or be close to it. Because it's all about power and money. That's why I get away from the political discourse of red versus blue. It is two sides of the same coin. It is two wings of the same bird. And if it's about more power, more security, more affirmation, more potential at a future job position, like an executive board position for one of these lobbyists, they're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it because it's well within their rights to be able to do so, unfortunately, as un-American as that sounds. 100%. All right. Let me go to the bathroom real quick, and then we got some shit to talk about. Oh, yeah, though. All right. We'll be right back. All right. We're back. We were just talking about you potentially getting into skits like the new Druski. Yes. Maybe. So he crossed barriers doing the white face. You're talking about blackface now. I don't know if I was. I don't know if I was talking about that. I'm not sure that was a part of anything that we talked about, actually. Wow. I divulged my secret billionaire secrets to you before this, and now. It was strongly insinuated. That's fair. I have a very racial understanding. I have an undertone to my manner of speaking. I get that. In all seriousness, though, I think you should totally do skits. I've done skits. They're fun. The ones in your car talking to yourself are amazing where it's like just that. But if you went all the way and also did like production and characters and shit, oh, my God, bro. You'd be so good at it. It seems like the only way that we can like, I don't know, maybe this is just me, but over the past few years of learning more and more. It's like at this point. I don't want to learn more. I think one of the easiest ways for us to understand what is going on and to mutually understand how crazy something is, sometimes it's a skit, something we can laugh at. I mean, George Carlin was great at that. Dave Chappelle is fantastic at that. Drewski right now, fantastic at that. Like the Erica Kirk, or I guess it wasn't technically Erica Kirk. He never said her name. He never commented on it. Very smart. But it was amazing. Yeah, skits are cool. Skits are cool. I don't know. The Rothschild one makes me want to do more. That was one of the funniest but most informational videos I've seen in a short period in a long time. So I guess that, you know, you put that out a couple different times. But you were just in your car as well as referencing earlier because you've done some of these like skits where you're talking to yourself and you're just going back and forth and, you know, your other character is like, no, no, no, it can't be more. Oh, it's more. And it's just like, how many years did this go back in America? Like two? A hundred years or something like that? That one went all the way back to 1837, the original bank panic where the Rothschilds sent in their first like arm into America. Okay, let's explain this because like people throw around the term, obviously, righteously so, having read the Epstein files of like the Rothschild banking dynasty and everything. But it's like this thing, whereas you have, you went through the tangible step by step where there's actually influence coming down into American culture. directly from them so 1837 what specifically happened there a man august belmont he worked for the rothschilds he was an agent of the rothschilds story story goes that he was supposed to go somewhere else came to america and it was like i think we need to set something up here and then for the next decades would do exactly that they would start purchasing infrastructure railroads utilities and start building up on pretty much uh one of our first major crises in 1837 uh it's also when i believe the second charter for our second national bank had been eliminated by uh andrew ham uh not jackson andrew jackson yep um he was an original populist that guy yeah yeah interesting he would have been an interesting guy in history to talk to yes because he was very wrong a lot of right anti-establishment way before there was really an anti-establishment it seemed um but of course he didn't get a movie alexander hamilton did he's a little sexier that's right yeah you had hamilton in the flow chart there i did have him yeah because he was he was the founder of really the original central bank it would fail its first charter then we'd pick up a second one but that original charter i believe it was 70 of the funding that went to the original charter the first central bank came from european banking families so the original funding for the original bank that got the broadway special of hamilton 70 european money so the whole premise of that broadway skit is us basically getting away from britain like the the king is made a mockery of in that movie movie, but in all actuality, the financing of that. - The warm embrace, bring it back. - Yeah. - The original funding for European Central Bank comes exclusively-- - Not the European. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the-- - Yeah, dude, type in the Fed or US Central Bank. - 18, oh, it's like 1811, 1810. - That sounds right, 'cause it's right before the war, 1812. - Correct, yeah, yeah. But regardless, that was the first Rothschild infiltration that I can see, of course, they started in the coin trade, I think it was late 1600s, and then through the 1700s, yeah, Mayor Amschel Rothschild would birth the five sons that would go to the different parts of Europe and hold up different arms of the banking families from France, Italy. - Yeah, it was Naples, Paris, Frankfurt, London. - It's on that document, the five, but this is the '70s. - Where was the fifth? - Yeah, US government share. So the 20-year charter for the First Bank of the United States expired in March 1811, meaning it was not active in 1810, while private investors, many of whom were European, funded a large portion of the bank. They had no voting rights, and the US government was its largest single shareholder. First Bank operated from '91 to 1811 as a quasi-public, federally chartered institution that stabilized the fledgling nation's finances and established international credit. 80%, $8 million, held by a mix of wealthy Americans and European capitalists, primary from Britain and the Netherlands, which would make sense, 'cause that was, Netherlands was one of the places, and this gets forgotten, that we were appealing to for financial support during the revolution itself. You know, obviously France is the famous one, 'cause that was military support as well, but that would chart, okay. So despite the bank's success in centralizing federal funds and aiding commerce, its charter was not renewed in 1811, missing out on continuing past 1810. The expiration was driven by two main factors, anti-federalist sentiment and fear of foreign influence. Interesting. - There's nothing to be afraid of. - Yeah, well. - Yeah, there's nothing to be afraid of. - Nothing to be afraid of. - But when those banks were, when the second bank fell out, that's when, I think it was within a year of when the second charter fell out, we would go into the 1837 financial crisis. They send in their arm, and then. - The Rothschilds. - Yeah, and the Rothschilds, again, are just one name. Here's the thing about the Rothschilds, again, me, because do I think they're just a crazy lizard? People that are here to issue in the Annunaki and all this, I don't think that, no. I do find it curious that they're mentioned over 12,000 times in the Epstein Library. - I find that very curious. - I think that's very interesting. I find it interesting that Trump, that Dershowitz, Clinton, Prince Andrew, we're all introduced to Epstein by a Rothschild. - Les Wexner. - Les Wexner. Why is this, and the other thing, too, so the Rothschild that interconnected all these webs mainly were Adrian Rothschild, I believe, of the French Bank, and Lynn Forrester to Rothschild. Could you bring up the pink sphere on those five spheres of corruption when you get a sec? - The pink one. - Yeah. - Tech Incorporated? - Actually, green, up on the left. - The green one, green for money. - Yep, green for money on the top left. - This is a hell of a sphere. - There you go. - Sit down in there. - So. - Banks, private equity, and Wall Street. - If you zoom in over on the top right, you'll see Les Wexner's face barely, yep, right there. This is basically the start of the Rothschild influence. - Okay. - Talking about people like Kathy Rumler and the Lynn Forresters. - Oh, she's directly connected as well, Obama's former chief lawyer. - Yep, 100%. - Okay, how so? - If you scroll over to the right and up, there's actually a video right there you can click on. - The AP? - This one? - Yeah, click on that one, or the one on the right-hand side, the one on the right-hand side. - Oh, look, there's Mark. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We were just talking about him. - Yeah, you gotta get on his show. - Oh, you're on View Only Hit Play? - We're on View Only? What does that mean? - The heck? - You wanna pause so we get off View Only real quick? - Yeah. - All right, we'll take a quick break, and we'll be right back. All right, we're back. So we got this video. This is the one from Flay Grant. If you guys don't end up seeing it, it's because the background music was copyrighted, or something, but you can find this by going to Flay Grant's page, over to Shorts, hit Popular, and you'll see a screenshot towards the top there of Sager, and the title's called Like Craziest Email in the Epstein Files. Go ahead, D. - So in all of the Epstein Files, what is the craziest email that you feel like everybody missed? - The most interesting email is this connection of the House of Rothschild to Jeffrey Epstein. Edmond de Rothschild, at the time, was facing a problem with the department of justice. The department of justice was alleging that Edmond de Rothschild, the bank in Switzerland, was helping wealthy Americans dodge taxes. So what they decide is that they'll pay a fine. Now, to negotiate that settlement, they hire two individuals, Kathy Rumler and Jeffrey Epstein. He says, "I think you will find 45.5 penalty," that's 45.5 million, "legal," 10 million for legal fees to Kathy, me, 25, all less than 80, pretty good. They paid 45.5 million to the department of justice. Epstein was paid 25 million to broker that deal. The reason why this puts it all together for me is you have the Rothschilds negotiating with the American Justice Department. Who do you hire? There are 10 law firms which you hire. You don't hire Jeffrey Epstein, unless you're hiring him for a reason. - That's right. That's a good clip. - Yeah, that was a good clip. I liked the little music on that. - Yeah, the music was good. - Yeah. - They cooked on that one. Shout out Shifty. - He got a little goosey on that one. That was good. - But it's interesting. It's interesting because of all the things where we look at Epstein and go, why the fuck did he have access to this or that, all righteously so, by the way, or why did they make him have to be such a genius in this thing or that thing? 'Cause it appears he wasn't. The one thing, the more I look at this, that it does seem like he was good at, it just made me think of it with this clip. They're talking about something a little different here, but finding money in weird places is like a money bounty hunter. You hear that term come up a lot. And whatever it was, even if, like, he wasn't personally talented at it, but he obviously was wired into the best connections possible to be able to get results, which that is what it is. Like, that's very interesting. - It seemed like that was his initial connection with Ron Lauder, too, of Estee Lauder. There was an email. They had been connected for about six, eight months. And then there's an email after they had had lunch where Epstein says, hey, I wanna go ahead and get his financials, contact to his accountant, and his will and testament. And it's like, wow, you just had lunch, and now you wanna. You wanna know where his money's gonna go when he dies. - And now his son-in-law is the fucking head of the Federal Reserve. - Yeah, exactly, exactly. Just keep it in the family. Yeah, he might've just been a really good financial savvy individual that also happened to implicate super elite people into precarious situations. - Definitely did that. - But I mean, like, bring it back to housing. He also was running basically the toxic financing of Bear Stearns through a company named Liquid Funding Limited. You heard of Liquid Funding Limited? - Did we cover that in an episode, Beef? Explain it. - So Liquid Funding Limited was a company, I believe, created in 2000. It was an offshore, I think, Bermuda. - Bermuda's a nice place. - Bermuda company, yeah. And Epstein was made the chairman of it in 2001 through 2007 until he would get arrested the first time. - Awesome. - Bear Stearns bought the majority of this company in 2001. I believe it was 40%. And what they were utilizing this company for is they were utilizing Liquid Funding Limited. Bear Stearns, a company that Jeff had worked at at one point and one of the first companies that would fail before the 2008 housing market crash. It would be them and Lehman Brothers. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember, Bear Stearns is fine. Bear Stearns is absolutely fine, Jim Cramer. - So the reason the 2008 crash happened was 'cause this thing called a collateralized debt obligation. - Yes. - Do you know who invented the collateralized debt obligation? Larry Fink. - Wait, he actually invented it? - Larry Fink. - I don't think I knew that. - Larry Fink was the first person who at the very least popularized, many people say created, with a couple other people at first Boston, I believe in like 1984, created the collateralized debt obligation. - Symbolism. - The collateralized debt obligation was what ended up fueling the 2008 housing market crisis because of what happened in '99 and 2004 with that SEC margin rule change allowing for risky investments. The CDO is simply like, if you, instead of wanting to invest in one house, you can invest in 500 houses by having a little piece of everyone's mortgage. What Liquid Funding Limited was doing is essentially taking the toxic assets that Bear Stearns did not wanna publicly admit to having or they didn't wanna show because they were maybe losing money or maybe too risky. They would offload it to this offshore company, one which we know of, there could have been multiple, Liquid Funding Limited. And Jeffrey Epstein's leadership of this company, his job was to take these seemingly toxic assets, reorganize them, reshuffle up the deck, make it all clean and pretty, and then sell it back to the public market. So they could disguise what was, and we've all seen the big short at this point, faulty investments, make them look like they were double AAA. That was essentially going on at these offshore companies. So when they went to their quarterly meetings, they wouldn't have to talk about these bleeding assets or these weird things they had on record because they weren't technically on record. They were in Bermuda. And they had Jeffrey Epstein creating these collateralized debt obligation bombs that were being sent out to the entire infrastructure of the world, Australia, America, everywhere. And that's what inevitably collapsed when rates went up, people weren't paying on their mortgages and these CDOs would slowly become toxic and collapse. And that's why companies like Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers would fall. And it's interesting that Jeffrey Epstein was the one leading the charge of hiding and reallocating these debt obligations. It goes further into the conversation you're having of maybe this guy was just truly a financial savant and knew how to do all of the crazy, weird, illegal things behind closed doors. It's possible. That was one thing I got some shit for. So did you watch some of those videos that got leaked from the Steve Bannon sit down with him? Yes. The interview. Yes. So I think I watched the whole interview. I think it's up now. A lot. Yeah. There's like two hours worth or something. Where he calls himself the devil or something like that. Is that the one where he did that? It might have been. Yes. But a lot of people walked away from that going, oh, he's an idiot. He's a total charlatan. And it's possible. But I actually had a bit of a different takeaway. I wanted to believe he was just a total idiot. And I do think that there are some things he was giving credit for. It's like, all right, was he really actually good at that? Maybe it's really just who he knew or they're giving him extra credit. For things he was able to do or whatever. But I still I want to watch that again to look for some takeaways. But I see a guy like I've known people like him, people that kind of stutter and, you know, work their way around and are saying a lot of stuff to try to sound smart, but it's making it seem like they're not smart. But then you start to realize once they put together three, four or five minutes of explaining something, maybe they explain something that really only needed 60 seconds, but they just take longer. To land the plane. And then you throw in a Coney Island accent and you're starting to think like, maybe they're dumb, but you realize once they land the plane, you're like, oh shit. All right. He took a little long to get there, but all right. Motherfucker just cooked. That's the takeaway. I got, yeah, honestly, I, I fully agree with your take on that. Yeah. I fully agree that he had a very good grasp on how the financial systems worked on how big money operated. And of course, at the time of that interview, how many decades have he been working and running the finances of the less Wexner's and connected with the Leon blacks and others. Apollo, I mean, he was at the top of it all. But some, for some reason, this Dalton school professor was the person these people called. Yeah. For some reason, like just in that clip, like you could call a bunch of different law firms to broker a department of justice payout. Every scene was paid out by the department of justice for brokering a deal between America and the Rothschilds. $25 million. Yeah. I wonder sometimes like in the movie scene of life, if there were two different scenes that happened. Multiple times, by the way, across different people. But on one side, you got Epstein, where people around him, people like him, who in the middle of just, you know, walking down Fifth Avenue one day on the phone, just hanging up and they look around at all the people passing them. And, you know, there's people watching and they're like, God, if people only knew who I just hung up with and what I did. I wonder if that moment ever happened for him. And then I wonder if there was also the moments where people who were not, who didn't know him, but maybe someone. And then on the other side at the DOJ, when they went to write out that, whoever has to write out the $25 million check, whoever that person is, it's just like, what the fuck? Yeah. Why are we wiring this? And now like years later, they see it on TV and they're like, oh my God. Like, I wonder how many of those situations there are. Yeah. The first take almost makes Epstein seem more human maybe than he was. But I wonder if he did have that moment. He seems almost so inhuman to not have had that moment. We could speculate it all day. He definitely, you're talking about someone that very clearly had a, had a complete inability to feel genuine empathy in any way. Right. So he's a sociopath, but he could fake it. Maybe not fake full empathy, but fake like he gave half a shit about you. Does that mean that there's like just enough human in there to have that moment? I don't know. Cause to me, he's just like, you, you said it a few minutes ago, but if there's an embodiment of like the devil on earth, I don't think about everything he touched and the class of society he affected and the people on the lower parts of society that he affected in the worst possible ways. And we have now two terms of presidents that have not released the information. More than that. Yeah. Correct. Because this really goes back to 2007, 2008. I, I would, he was operational. It's clear now by the early eighties. So, and, and was involved in Iran Contra. So in some ways you could, and I don't know this for sure, but you can make the argument that there has been an administration level covering up, ignoring of this since fucking Ronald Reagan. At the least since Clinton, at the least, at the least since Clinton. Cause that's someone that Lynn Forrester put, there's a, there's a letter in the, in the, in the Clinton Library where she's like, I'm going to use my 15 minutes to introduce you to Jeffrey Epstein. Did you see his testimony? Dude, Clinton's. Clinton in his house? Yeah. On camera? Yeah. Yeah. He said it. He goes, I was friends with Lynn Forrester, the Rothschild. And I believe, I think he was talking about meeting Maxwell or something. And it's just like, they just throw that, like, that's the other thing, dude. I keep thinking about this. The word Rothschild, you weren't even allowed to say it. No one was allowed to ever say it, period. Which was kind of interesting. And then out of nowhere, not only are like people allowed to say it all over the internet now, not only are their files being leaked out with their names, not redacted in some cases, kind of interesting that of all the redactions they did, they didn't redact that. But they also have it to where all these powerful people going into depositions are voluntarily bringing it up. Les Wexner voluntarily brought it up. Multiple times. I don't believe it was brought up. I don't believe it was brought up in the context of someone asking, do you know the Rothschilds? He brought it up himself multiple times. Bill Clinton brought it up himself. These people, the accountant, the, what, what, I always forget his goddamn name, Epstein's accountant, brought it up, I believe, himself. Dershowitz brought it up multiple times. Brought it up himself. All these people are suddenly like, like volunteering this information. Yeah, maybe I missed it for a long time. No, you're spot, you're spot on. When Dershowitz, I think it was over the summer when Dershowitz first on an interview, because he said it twice now on an interview. Yeah, I was introduced to it. I was introduced to it by the, the lady Rothschild. I was like, did you mean to say that? Yeah. And then doubles down again on another one and says her by name, Lynn Forrester. And it's also interesting to me that Ellie DeRothschild and Lynn Forrester aren't blood Rothschilds. They're married in. So it is interesting to me that the two people that we're hearing the most about name-wise are expendable to the family. Front companies. Yeah. Expendable to the family. Yeah. That's so interesting. Yeah. Female. That's a virgo. Yeah. I think you're onto something there. It's, I mean, we see it even in administrations. You see scapegoats. You see people who have to take the brunt of it and do the hard work full well-knowing like a Pam Bondi. You may not make it to the end of this. That's right. Just a, just another lady, just another person that we can throw out and let her catch the flack and then we can recover when she's gone. But yeah, you look at Lynn Forrester, she doesn't get talked about nearly enough. Yeah. Then why? So here, here's the, here's the one contra point to that. Why do you have like Jared Kushner voluntarily, again, without being asked, going on public interviews and saying, yeah, I thought about buying this Albanian island because I was on a boat with my friend Nat de Rothschild. Now he's a blood Rothschild. Yeah. Why are they? Can we bring up the tree real quick? Who's Nathaniel? I think Nathaniel's the fifth Baron. Can we scroll back and then go over the left where that, uh. Yeah. Yeah. Go over the left for the family trees. He's the British one, right? Yeah. It's right in the British line in the middle. Cause that's Arian. Can you go over to the right? Keep going. And then you'll see the Baron. Keep going. Keep going. Incredible. So by the way, I'll tell you the color of these lines and why they matter. Uh, so yeah, that was the first one. That's maybe who they named him after, but I don't think he's the lineage guy. Scroll back out real quick. Yeah. Scroll down. Yeah. He's going to be one of the new ones. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going down. No, keep going. Yeah. Keep going down. Down to the bottom, basically. Okay. There's David, right? Uh, there he is. Nathaniel, the guy in the glasses. Nathaniel's in the glasses. The guy in the glasses. Yep. Yep. So his father was that guy. His dad. Yeah. His, his dad was the creepy guy who sounded like atrocious. He sounded like an evil villain. Yes. Um, he's. My family was here to possess, possess the wealth and helperism. It's pretty spot on. Yeah. This is how he talked. Very weird. He was also the one who said that we, we've been known to keep love in the family, which is also, so scroll way back real quick. I can tell looking at his fucking face. Yeah. Scroll way back real quick. Just real, real back. And then let's pause it so we can see the whole family tree. There's the father right there. Okay. Above him. So you see the colors? Scroll back a little bit more. Yellow. Maybe not that much. Yeah. So we got yellow and green. No, it's fine. There's a lot. You're good. There's so much going on. So the yellow is father, son, father, daughter lineage. Green is. Green is inter-family. So every green line you're starting to draw, seeing is somebody marrying one of their family oh wait so the old guy we were just referencing isn't a greener he looks like a fucking greener see him right uh his his original lineage was his original if you scroll up yeah fucking face yeah if you can't like so if we go to leonel got hit by a bus both leonel uh was married to charlotte von rothschild who came from one of the other arms what you'd see here is basically the the arms between like paris and then of germany and then of the british they would basically move it around and like intertwine it uh and this wasn't an uncommon thing unfortunately with like these european banking families but the rothschilds definitely uh highly enjoyed it of what i'm tracking amongst the two generations that followed the original five banks about 80 of their marriages were to a niece a nephew or a cousin that's nice yeah it's good family reading that's wonderful i read it to my daughter each night the family tree of the rothschilds we learn a little bit more each night what does your wife think of this you know at first a little a little just on the sideline about it um because it started really just my anger toward the economy right and then it's bled more into the history of things but um in the last six months it's been a long time since i've seen her in person um i think it's been a long time since i've seen her in person um i think the thing that did it for her was erica kirk honestly really that was her explain why well she got big into i think one of the first things was just the filming of tyler robinson all around the campus not matching up and how'd the gun get here and she's always been a huge true crime person so women a woman true crime right i've never heard of that very very small demographic of millennial women that are not into that at all in the true crime she's one of the few like you said but there's just a lot of true crime elements to that that you could look at and be like this isn't matching up that's right you know why they concreted over why was there no ambulance why was he just thrown into suv why does the bullet not really match what it was supposed to do to his body why does the shirt move weird why is this person running away with a microphone and wire instead of like performing aid you can keep going and there's a lot of people like the james lees and ian carrolls and others that have been following it very closely up until today as we now actually have the preliminary trials i think that are finished they're done now yeah it picks back up in october finished 10 days ago or whatever but there were five and now it's allegedly going to pick up in october yeah but there could be i think it was explained to me there's an open window now meaning new hearings could be called ahead of that i think baron was telling me that when i was on the phone with him okay but yeah yeah i haven't been keeping up with it much because quite honestly went around probably november hit i i had had my mind made up that something's been covered up here there has something has been covered up covered up for something's been covered up i don't know who what but it was erica it was erica kirk for your wife that yeah did it her lack of remorse the the dog and pony show of it all laughing at laughing at her un or her employees emojis like nine days after his death it none of none of that really meets the eye test yes and i think that leads a lot of americans to then start digging in and listening to these people who are actually digging in and like the ian carrolls that are they're walking through the details um candace owens obviously humongous in that in that realm that are asking questions do i agree with everything that these people stand for a hundred percent no and just the same way i know people listening to me don't agree with a hundred percent what i say that's normal it's human that's what we should be doing but i think we should also respect those that are asking the questions a lot of us want answers to that we're not seemingly getting and if somebody were taking taken out and we were lied about too and it was over his sentiment maybe around a foreign country that's terrifying it is terrifying that's terrifying yeah and when you look at the line of items of okay what changed leading up to this event there's not much to change other than his sentiment toward a foreign entity and he had the largest base i mean by far the largest base of young conservative males in this country if if that base completely flipped that's dangerous and here's the other thing a lot of that base on that issue even people that still supported him heavily had flipped on the issue referring to israel like when you look at the polling especially of gen z i think it was a turning points uh it was like a debate with charlie and he had it with dave smith and somebody else yeah i think there was a huge turning point that was happening that the pun intended a turning point that was happening in that summer that was and you know what of all the details around the build-up to charlie's death and just like context on where his head was at i think what dave smith said about maybe it was 10 days after his assassination was the most overlooked one of all dave smith talked about how he had never really spent time with charlie kirk before i think if i'm remembering it correctly i believe this was in an interview with sneeko i want to say so people can go look at this for themselves shortly after his assassination but they were talking about he said yeah so when i went out for this thing at the end of july 2025 to do the debate i think it was with the guy josh hammer i want to say he said i got to spend like an hour with charlie kirk and so you know we start talking having a good time backstage or wherever they were and you know within 15 minutes we were talking about like a lot of books and a lot of kind of educational stuff within 15 minutes it was so clear to me not that it should have been a surprise but like okay this guy's charlie kirk and i'm like okay this guy's charlie kirk and i'm like okay this guy's charlie kirk and i'm like okay this guy's charlie kirk is really well read like this this is this is a very smart guy so he said i kind of looked at him i said all right dude you read a lot of books you're smart as hell like what's the deal here like why why are you still why are you still defending this referring to like the israeli government's actions particularly in gaza yeah and and what the netanyahu government was doing and he said it just like this he said charlie went listen my faith is the most important thing to me and the fact of the matter is you know the the israeli government it when it comes to the christian sites in israel they have protected those and if like a caliphate came in there it would all be gone and i'm very concerned about that which when you hear that at first first glance you're like okay maybe that both things might be true there but dave's like dave looked at him and was like okay yeah but like at what point does what we're seeing in the and the downstream effects on people's lives or lack thereof around the world not outweigh that and so i'm like okay well i'm gonna go ahead and i'm gonna and i forget how dave explained it so please go check the interview it's been a while but like it wasn't you could tell there was like a charlie didn't believe in them he had one specific reason and that's why he had gone along with it for a long time but i i want to say dave's takeaway was like he might finally be thinking about it a little bit and i don't know i i think that's really fucking notable because like i understand that at the surface of the world and i don't know like all right he's a man of faith and like that's where the holy grail of his religion is and he's concerned about that but to dave's point at what point do you zoom out like in that case he's a christian charlie kirk so like he's he believes in the example of jesus like not to be that guy but like what would jesus want you to do in that situation would he would he care about where his tomb was or you know would he say maybe we should stop killing fucking kids maybe i don't think there's a straight up verse where he's like i don't know i don't know i don't he says let's not kill the fucking kids listen i think it's insinuated right right in his message i'm from new jersey so just you know give me a little bit of grace there but listen no i i i i read the bible at this point as somebody who was raised in a church fell away from the church and now has started reading it in the past three years just out of my own curiosity the american church has been completely hijacked like nothing about the american church is standing for what the four gospels of jesus christ said are you referring to like not catholic christianity or all of it just the like i'll give a few examples um the prosperity gospel being one that your financial uh level in life is directly attached to your spiritual affiliation with christ uh there's the nationalist side that comes with christianity that is 100 akin to just european nationalism white nationalism and this judeo-christian value set that was really created in christianity in the 60s 70s around the cold war area uh era i should say as this um this basically pr attempt to put pin us as a different type of entity against russia because russia was this cold heartless communist nation and they're like we're we're christ founded we're we're a christian nation even though none of the founders of the country were christian thomas jefferson famously published a bible that had all of jesus's name in it and they're like we're we're we're miracles ripped out of it like they they were they were masons actually free masons yeah washington benjamin franklin yeah uh i think james madison so we're not a christian nation we're a freedom of religion nation separation church and state and that really changed in the mid-1900s to we are christian based and more specifically judeo-christian and the sect of judaism believes that christ was not the messiah and that he was a uh revolutionary went against the teachings of the religion and ultimately was not the promised messiah uh whereas christians believe he was the risen Messiah. And the thought process that you could somehow merge those two viewpoints doesn't truly make any sense. To merge the viewpoints of Christianity and this man who came to an earth and decided, okay, all of you who are using religion in your financial status to belittle and control these people, I hate that. You using this text to belittle women, I hate that. His longest conversation in the gospels was with the woman at the well. The people that discovered him after he was crucified were supposedly the women. You know, he did not in any way, shape or form mirror what the average, like, let's say, American Pentecostal pastor is going to be preaching today. That's right. He was a brown, probably dirty, nomad immigrant who wanted us to basically set all of our egotistical needs to the side for the betterment of our community. And I don't see any of that in America, but yet we're in a Christian-based country. So when I read what the book of Christianity is based off of, especially the red words, all I can think is it's been hijacked. And it almost, it makes me not even say I'm Christian. I try to do my best to follow in what Christ taught to do. So ultimately believe a sin-free lifestyle is a lifestyle where I'm going to feel the most fulfilled and be able to bring most value. While I'm here, you do that with a lot of religions. Just, I hate that we fall back on Christianity. And, you know, he heard about the things with Iran, like, oh, God is the reason that we're going to do this. Like, brother, bomb thy neighbors nowhere in Matthew. I've looked three times. It's not there. It's Armageddon, though. It's not in there. Yeah, it's bullshit. It is bullshit. And I hate it because it takes an otherwise, in my opinion, very beneficial, extremely wise, extremely dense. Uh, at least four books in the Bible, there's a lot of debate that we had about the rest. But I mean, if we're going to base it off this man and we're going to say our country's based off of it and they don't align again, it's like, did it get hijacked in some way? That was one thing I liked that Rogan threw in there with, with JD Vance when he was asking about the story where the general allegedly told some of the, some of the soldiers like, God wants us to bomb Iran. Like you were saying, and JD is like, well, you know, you got to check the source and stuff. And then when JD went to, you know, he was like, well, you know, you got to check the to explain how he would have done it. He said, you know, when I'm talking to a bunch of, of obviously like, let's be good Christians here and whatever. He said something like, I'm talking, if, if I were addressing a room of Christian men like that, you know, I would have said this instead. And Rogan goes, no, you're addressing a room of the military. It has people of different religions or no religion at all. And that seemed to go in one. There should be no religious context in our, in our, in our foreign policy. There should be zero religious context in our foreign policy. I'll take it a step farther. There should be zero. There should be zero religious context in our politics. That said the other side of that, of like, therefore, if you take religion out of society, because you take it out of the government, you take it. I'm sorry, because you take religion out of the government, you take it a step farther and take it out of society and make the government your religion. Well, that's fucked too. I want to be very clear on that. And that's what the original documentation was for freedom of religion was for freedom of religion, freedom, not for us to be a, a, a cultish Christian country. That's not what it was for. That's right. That's where they were coming from the Quakers and things. I think Quakers in Britain beforehand, I could be misspeaking. What do you mean? Like the original, like Puritan Christianity. Yeah. They came to, yeah, they came to Pennsylvania. They had a different, were they, I forget, are the Quakers Christian or. They just make, they just make, they make good oats. I know that about Quaker. They make good oats. Good oats. Yeah. Shout out Billy Penn. Are they considered Christian? You know, it's a Protestant. Yeah. Protestant movement. But yeah, like good Puritan values and stuff like that. But like practice what you want to do and that, but it shouldn't be. That's the thing. When it comes to like freedoms in human history that get infringed upon, it's obvious shit. It's like, it shouldn't be, I shouldn't have to sit here and be like, yeah, practice what religion gives you peace. I shouldn't have to say that. Right. But the fact is time and time again, we do because people like to say, no, I'm more right about the afterlife that neither of us actually know. Yeah. You haven't died. I haven't died. We have no clue. We have no clue, but we were so sure. I don't even know what's going to happen when I die. I'd like to believe I know, but I don't. So yeah, it shouldn't be involved in any of our government and it also shouldn't be the only excuse someone has to be a good person either. That's right. You shouldn't need a religion to be taught to be a good person. That's exactly right, man. Just live your life in a good way and be humble that you don't know what comes next and be ready to answer for it. Right. And it seems like our country uses it for the opposite. Seems that way. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like we're using it for the ward, for the. Well, you said you turned, you grew up religious, so you grew up like Protestant or what? I was in an Assemblies of God church as I was, I was in there. I was raised in a Christian school. Okay. Christian parents and I was an assistant youth leader for like the youth group nights on Wednesdays and Fridays and played for the basketball team on the private, like I was all in there. Right. What made you turn away from it? The same reason a lot of people turn away from it of, this is all I've known all, I've been taught. Is this it? Right. Fell away. And quite honestly, one of the main reasons I, I fell away was my, my love that I found for entrepreneurship and it took over my life. I mean, quite honestly, I suffered in my marriage from it. I suffered in a lot of things because it was so laser focused on the entrepreneurship world. Religion didn't wake me back up, but the idea that there is something bigger here, we're, we're, we're all operating on a spiritual level. We're all living in the same place. We're all living in the same time. taken polls at the polls of people of like, who they are voting for, and why and what had motivated them to do that. And you were able to paint a really good picture of how, in this case, a closed primary process, which is already going to be low voter turnout, you're required to be registered as a Republican to be able to do it. And, you know, it's an offseason vote, I think this was in May or whatever, you know, how an election can be turned with basically just paid misinformation. And I think it's valuable for people to see that because unfortunately, now Thomas Massey, who was a seven term congressman with a high approval rating until the very end there, and now suddenly being voted out when he stood for something, you know, it's interesting with guys like him, and maybe Ro Khanna coming up with his primary to see what they do there spending against him. They're going the same way as like Frank Church in the 70s, who dared to call commissions questioning about the CIA's power, and then suddenly had a lot of dark money against him to be pushed out. And that is like, I think it's important to sound the alarm for people all over the country by going there and showing people what you found and how people were swayed to do things and how fucked up the system is. Because if it's it clearly hasn't been fixed at any point in the last five decades, so we got to fix it at some point. Otherwise, there's just going to be continued paid shills in there who vote against the interests of their constituents because they're paid by people that are richer. Where does that progress because I hear you and I did get to watch it and it sucked out. But I think it's important to watch. You know, I got to go I was I was backstage with Massey, you know, minutes after he realized he was losing he was coming for his commencement speech and the vibe of the staff and everything was a downtrodden moment shortly followed after by a great commencement speech, or not commencement speech, what's a concession concession speech, right? But signaled maybe there's a 2028 something happening. And maybe that happens. But what changes that? Is it education so that people understand how these voting systems even work is I'll give one example of most people don't even show up for their own general election on off years because the main general election will show up for is the presidential election. But in the off years, you're only having people show up for things like Senate, Congress, and you get like 40% of the turnout, something like that nationwide. And then even before that general election on an off year, you have the primaries, that's right, which in an area like Kentucky, which has been read in this the other is a fourth seat of Kentucky where Massey was running, has been read since the 60s. So whoever wins that primary right then and there to run for the Republican seat, they're winning, they're going to win. And it's happening in an off year. And it's happening six months prior in a primary that just to be frank, people graduating high school don't fucking understand. Yeah, don't get don't know how we were just now trying to figure out what the heck a mortgage payment is and what interest is. And the power that they have in their vote is not being explained to them. When they become a voting age. We're not learning how to communicate in high school. We're not learning finances in high school. We're not learning anything that's going to be beneficial. We're definitely not learning how our political system works or how we have the power in our vote. Some may say we don't have the power in our vote. I would say there's room for that. But at the very least, an understanding of how it works, I think would benefit it dramatically. Because what I got to see out in Kentucky was the polls were run by people that are 55 and over. And we're watching AI slop ads that were fake. The amount of people who told me that they voted for Ed Gowrie and the person who ran and won against Thomas Massey that said they voted for Ed because Massey was in a relationship with AOC. I had three different people say that because they saw an AI ad or the amount of people that just said simply. He's standing up against Trump. And I didn't argue with these people. It wasn't my place to sit there and have a debate with them. It was just there for data. But why do you want someone who's just a rubber stamp for whatever the party has priorly stood for instead of someone who independently thinks on your behest? Because people are attracted to a cult of personality again and again and again. Don't downtrod me with your dark energy. No, no, I'm not trying to be dark. It's just human history. It happens again and again and again, regardless of political leanings. I can go all the way from one end of the spectrum. To the other. And, you know, God forbid you question that and you do it from a lower peg, you're expendable. That's what I think. I don't know. Just like you referenced, I think it was rigged, but I think it was rigged by money. That's right. And I think it was rigged by a foreign entity, which, whether it's Israel, whether it's Germany, Australia, China, Philippines. Yep. I think anybody who would be willing to, in a foreign country, spend. Tens of millions of dollars to make sure that one out of 535 lawmaker seats can be filled by somebody who's going to be a yes man is one of the most concerning things that you could possibly witness. And at this point, no one's talking about it. It's white noise at this point. It's, what was that, three months ago now? And it seems like there's been 82 other things to talk about at that point. The muzzle velocity of things to worry about. It's like, okay, you now have three other things that you need to worry about. We can't focus on that anymore. And it is kind of downtrodden, or not depressing, maybe a little bit, maybe a little bit. But to watch the power of the vote be stripped from people based off of the misuse of capitalism. Yeah. Citizens United. The allowance for these foreign entities and corporations to spend unlimited money through super PACs to influence our elections. And it wasn't just Massey. It's happening as we speak. That's what I'm saying, though. We also have to look. We have to look in the mirror and make those changes in America ourself. Because what's unfortunate is that what they did as of right now, like in that election, is legal. Yes. They were legally allowed to do that. Yes. And so, you know, the Mary Maddlesons of the world have their priorities. And if they're legally allowed to do it, they're going to. So we have to change that. The one good news is now that the Israeli and U.S. military intelligence are going to be linking. That's good. I mean, if we're going to pull some good news out of all that. Yeah. We asked Senator McConnell about that. He wasn't happy with the hundred people that voted against it. Oh, yeah. He was very, very upset about that. I didn't realize there were that many anti-Semites in the Congress. Wow. Yeah. A hundred. Isn't that crazy? You call an anti-Semite? I have a complaint on my real estate license for it right now. A complaint on your real estate license? Yeah. What do you mean? People can just publicly. I'm a public independent. Contractor. So in our state, and I think most all states, you could submit a complaint to the Department of Regulations, professional regulations, for any which reason that you'd like. I think I've had eight in my career. I don't have any that actually made their way to my license because they were all defensible or people that were just mad or whatever. But, yeah, I have one right now. Maybe a second one that's coming through based off of my online content. And both are around me. Your online content. So let me get this straight. Because you critique a foreign government's influence within our own, because of the race of that government, people are allowed to therefore deem you a racist. Sure. Yeah. So I have given this speech a few times. It's pretty good. So I'm going to give it every fucking time. Unlocked it. When I call out the Chinese government, I'm not xenophobic. When I call out the Russian government, I'm not Russophobic. When I call out the Ukrainian government, I'm not Ukrainophobic. When I call out the British government, I'm not fucking Anglophobic. When I call out the Saudi government, I'm not Saudi-phobic. But if I call out the Israeli government, they'll call you anti-Semitic. Fuck you. It's got nothing to do with anything. That's how you get to that. Using labels to excuse totalitarianism or anything along those lines is objectively one of the most evil things. And the fact of the matter is, it just blows my mind that the same people doing that in Israel and that government share a race with people who were subjected to some of the same things they're doing now, not long ago. And then they have the audacity to say, therefore, we're allowed to do what we want. And they have the audacity to call out all these governments, including our own, who allow them to exist effectively. It blows my mind. And I will not stand for it. I'm from New Jersey. All my friends, Italian, Irish, Jewish, black, Mexican, it's a very fucking diverse place. All right? I don't say anything that I wouldn't say to anyone in my life's face, including on this particular topic, any of my Jewish friends whatsoever. Because nothing I say is anything more than a critique of a government's actions. Right. So the fact that that would make it to a public real estate license. Yeah. Because you've been critical of that. It's disgusting. The video of itself, it was a minute video. It's funny because in the video, all I was saying, because I had gotten a DM and it said, oh, it's the Jews again. So I responded. I said, careful, not the J word. Let's be very careful about who we're attacking here. And I broke it down from there. And that was the one that I got the complaint over. Where you were literally correcting them. And my broker listened to it. He's like, are you sure? this is the video i say yes this is the video that's nuts this is a video i'm very blatantly explaining hey don't be a racist bigot here let's call out the people that are worth calling out but to say an entire religion an entire race an entire people is the entire reason for one person another person's problems is bigoted do you think it's the do you think this is the point like like the hardcore hardliners in that government want to drive that narrative to foment it around the world that being anti-israel is anti-jewish absolutely so that they can foment fear in their own people and use them like pawns um i think in the sense that they strike fear by saying people that are calling out the israeli government are the enemy and that they should stand up against them that were no what i'm saying is when they decide when the netanyahu's decide that they can unilaterally speak for all jewish people around the world which is fucking crazy right many jewish people do not support him at all absolutely yeah and pretend that they do and therefore bring them in on the team publicly in the sense that then they are forced to answer for his actions which creates a bad environment for them if i'm a jewish person living in britain or in france or in new york the u.s yeah right and now people look at me and go what the fuck because netanyahu's going on tv saying calling us all the same thing i wonder if that's the point sometimes you know if you want to take more land over there if you're smotrich ben gabir netanyahu and the hardlining fat shout out ben gabir good fucking fucking scumbag but like if you're those guys and you want to take land over there because the bible promises it to you you need more people how do you get more people you scare people into coming home and i don't think that's a crazy like just throwing that out there pure spec obviously i don't have any inside information i don't think that's a that's a crazy psychological idea no i don't think it's crazy at all i think personally they love the anti-semitism thing i i think that there's a a a reasonable theory around this labeling of anybody who dares to question a foreign government's moves by labeling them a racist bigot you're you're fueling actual bigotry that's right because then you get people who do go out and just say oh it's actually all this one person well then we can make rules and regulations and we can say you can't boycott it and we could say you know now we have reason to believe and it's not because of what the people who are actually stating the fact they're doing it's the people who take that stated fact and then go a level deeper with it getting bigoted and now they take the bigoted person say well because of this reason we need to surveil and maybe even restrict some of the content that's going out i mean bb said it before the tiktok is the eighth front of the war that they they're utilizing content creators and refers to them as the real anti-semitism because it gives them ammunition to keep fighting that's right it gives them ammunition to self-fulfilling for ben gevier to say we need to just have 3 000 lebanese mothers dying for everyone that cries here in israel crazy yeah that we need to completely decimate an entire population that they can say completely holocaustic adjacent things live on twitter and we're supposed to just go to our jobs and eat salad and be okay with people dying it's nuts man it's that there's no there's no explanation for it that is good at this point and you know i i'm very aware of and it exists in all things the psychological human nature we all have which is that if people call you something untrue loudly and strongly enough over and over and over again and along a human being can be pushed to become that thing and what does the phrase say a lie loud enough and long enough and it becomes true there you go same exact psychological wavelength it's like that's what you're describing right there and i see it again and again and again and you know i watch people get pushed and i and i'm like but i see where it started and so you know i i don't know if if like my approach is the right approach that's not for me to say but i don't know i don't know but like i do my best to like just drown out the noise and call it like i see it yeah and then people say what they say and i ignore it or if i see it i then ignore it afterwards you know what the am i gonna do anybody can say what they want on the internet but i i just i i i think we have a crisis of leadership around the world right now amen that is unlike anything we've seen in a while crisis of leadership and our economy is out of balance we're out of balance and i think we talked about it beforehand um big friend of the show tim dylan shout out tim dylan shout out tim i love that phrase him bringing that back friend of the show and nobody can we can't use it anymore it's now completely copyrighted but oh it's his yeah it's his word deservedly so it's very few times when someone brings up a phrase that isn't new and somehow it's now theirs we do have one here oh what is that oh pure spec pure spec what was that where is that source speculation the show already existed before that's fair yeah it's very common phrase but somehow he took it over and now it is but uh he had a great point you know of the 60s 70s 80s with all this corruption like you mentioned the church committee we mentioned vietnam we mentioned you know things like reaganomics the gold standard like a lot of boomers will still say like the gold standard that's when the economy got real like the cia has been corrupt for forever like they'll admit that uh but they didn't have to suffer financially or economically so they're just like yeah it's fine yellow people are dying overseas ah it's fine i have 401k i got my beach house right right right i get to go on a vacation once a year wifey don't have to work you know i can beat her if she doesn't have lunch ready for me it's a beautiful world there in the 60s and 70s and they didn't have to worry about so of course they didn't care but now people can't afford or beat their wife so of course now i'm all joking of course please don't beat anybody um in fact we need more wives beating husbands we need more of that in america but people didn't have to worry financially so of course like the corruption was kind of like a second fiddle now they can't afford it and social media is blasting it everywhere kind of gets back into the earlier conversation of is the is it purposeful are they trying to make us angry and broke i have a movie scene in my head right now where i can't see the actor's face or what movie it is but like he's sitting at a desk at the end you know typing stuff in and like the police scanners on and someone's screaming there's blood everywhere somebody help get here right now and he goes and like just turns it up the other guys he just turns it off and keeps typing that is the boomer generation all right hey if i can't hear it i can't see it and if i can't see it it's not real so life won't go on real sorry sucks to suck yep but that's it man the the boomer ira is fine they're housing is fine they're getting discounts everywhere like the boomers are the last people that need a discount on their wireless plan that's right we need to have gen z discounts non-asset holding discounts if you do not own a home you get 50 off chicken nuggets that's what we i would i would go for that that's a good deal that's what we need it's a starting point a starting starting point zach we're going to find the light at the end of that tunnel brother okay we're going through a tougher period right now economically socially culturally but we're going to find the light at the end of that tunnel brother right now economically socially culturally geopolitically i mean every kind of lee there is right now but like you know you and i like we were saying at the beginning we were talking off camera too like we're both optimists it's important to point out the problems so you know people can collectively find a way to come together find some common ground after you know 10 years here of people disagreeing on everything find common ground that the every person can agree on and try to fix the system so we have a better system for generations to come but i i do think we're going to have an opportunity to do that and you know it doesn't mean that we're not going to have some things along the way that aren't clearly injustices it'll happen like right now we're watching one play out with epstein that hopefully changes where it's like people aren't getting prosecuted that's crazy to be clear but like we have to find ways to get stacked w's yeah even if there's things we're pissed off about look at it be pissed off about it try to change it for the future and stack w's with other things and like maybe we can make this a great country for the next 250 years i'd like 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