#454 - Flock Cam EXPLOSION, Tate Arrest REACTION & (Another) Epstein DEATH | Julian Dorey

(dramatic music) - What's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of The Julian Dory Podcast. I am Julian Dory. - Now I'm Joey Dave Hayden there. - How you done? - Joey Dave, we just did like four podcasts this week. One earlier today, we got like four next week to start off the week. I love when we're on a roll like this. - Granted. - We're grinding baby. - Yeah, we've been doing some more volume as well in case you guys haven't seen that. I'm gonna hopefully keep increasing that. Amanda's been here a couple of weeks now. I'm helping us out coordinate everything and she's doing a great job. So it's nice to see this thing scaling up and we'll keep going. But we got another Epstein death. You love to see it. I'm sure there's absolutely nothing suspicious there whatsoever, but we'll just rule out anything on pure spec basis as always. Flock city bitches in full effect as well. Our friend Tommy G, that's the thing I'll get to that later. But Tommy G's always on it and he's always early and great work on that latest documentary he put out. And I don't know if you checked, Dave, but the Iran war unbeknownst to you and I and I guess all of us out there is actually very popular. - Yeah. - And it's so popular that Ben Shapiro was headed to the front lines. - Well, he does have a very successful show that garnered lots of viewership. - That's right. - That's a big sense. - I know there's at least seven and a half people out there that watch it. So anyway, we'll talk about that. And then we do have to talk about the Tate's arrest that went on. Obviously, I've never been much of a fan of Andrew Tate to say the least. I thought in the past, like some of the cases that were brought against him did appear to be totally contrived in his defense that said, obviously there is now a new case. Obviously the allegations are very serious. We're gonna go through what we know and what we saw. I know Jack Neil, who I know a little bit, a nice kid had recorded an interview with Andrew in May. I think to come out if something happened to him. - Dead man, sweet. - Yeah, which is kind of interesting. I did try to call Jack before this and wasn't able to get a hold of him, but I'll try to find out what's going on there. Either way, we'll talk about what we know about that so far and kind of let that play out. There's obviously a whole extra edition thing that's happening there. And some people in the politics caught in the middle who've been like friends with them that are now like shit fam. Sorry, you off the eye now. - Yeah, you think Jack is like kind of hype that he had to pull the switch. Like if you're him and you do this interview and you know it's gonna get clicks and you're like, hey, listen, it's the pain our bills. Like we're doing all right. And then all of a sudden on like a Tuesday, you get texts like, hey, pull the switch and you're just like, man. - I guess I gotta post that. - Yeah, I don't know. I gotta talk to Jack, Jack's a nice kid, he's young. He's like 24 or 25. I think obviously he's been doing a nice job growing his podcast and before that was known as like an online storyteller for a few years and was for a very long time massively viral doing that. So you know, I'd love to get some, I don't know, what do the girls call it? Some tea on that just to see how that culminated. That'll probably be off record. - How many brought a whiteboard for it? - He brought a whiteboard. - You know, that's, he did bring a whiteboard. So, I don't know, we'll get to that. But, deep, these people, they drop like flies. They don't see the inside of a jail cell for the most part. Mine is Epstein and John Luke Bernel before they met their demise. And obviously Guy Lenn who was convicted of trafficking children to nobody. But you know, for the most part of all these other people, they don't even see a courtroom. And our friend here, the modeling scout, Daniel Sayad, did not appear to see the inside of a courtroom, did not appear to see the medal of handcuffs, go on his wrist despite 2000 back and forth in the Epstein file emails where he's also talking about trying to find Epstein young assistants. No, she's not young enough. Okay, I'll find you another one. But he doesn't know anything. He doesn't know anything. So, let's start with the basic, you know, CNN mainstream media fucking, you know, probably just nothing to see here, propaganda job. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you. Article that came out so that we can at least get some of the details or alleged details of what happened here. But this is from July 22nd, model recruiter who introduced young women to Jeffrey Epstein found dead in France, a French professional model recruiter who for over a decade arranged for the late sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein to meet multiple models was found dead as home near Paris on Monday. The annual science body was found in his house in Colombs, a suburb of the French capital, Marie Selene Larritz, deputy public prosecutor of the non-tier judicial court told CNN in Wednesday statement. And autopsy will be performed on the body to determine the cause of death. Would love to know who was doing that. It'll be legitimate. It'll be very legitimate. They always are. There's never been an autopsy done this time. Which is right. You know, I for one thing, JFK's autopsy was done by the book, Clean Cut, Clean Cut, all the right people in there, examined everything, caused a death correct, magic bullet, totally real. Yep. Anyway, CNN's Katie Polg-Galasse, recently interviewed Syed. Oh, that's what he did. That's a no-no. He talked. He can't talk. He talked. Dead men can't talk. Daniel. That's the thing. That's the argument there. But she recently interviewed Syed who said he had no reason to believe to women. He had recommended to Epstein, and who had told CNN that Epstein had abused them, had been harmed by him. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine being-- We keep using that CIA crack thing too much. I'm not missing. But this is even like a step above that. Imagine like all these files coming out. You're Daniel Syed. You're sitting at home going, oh fuck, I'm cooked. I'm talking with this motherfucker. 2,000 tons, bro. I'm sure this South French accent sounds-- this is a problem. And then CNN comes to you and you're like, you know what, yes, I'll do an interview. Which, you know, credit? He said yes to it. I'll give him that. But then they say, hey, these two women-- you're on email here recommending to Jeffrey Epstein. They say that he abused them. And you're like, I had no knowledge. In fact, I don't believe that happened, Jeffrey. The Jeffrey I knew would never have done that. Like, he's saying that as far as I can tell here, in a post January 30th, 2026 world, that does take balls. I'll give him that. But that's about all I'm giving him. Because it's just insane that people will be saying that. But speaking it all is obviously going to be a problem. But this is the best quote he has this highlighted. And correctly so. From Daniel Syed, I trusted him, referring to Epstein, and believe this guy was a professional person. He told CNN in an interview published in June. I never heard anything from anyone I introduced to him who came back to me that they had a bad situation. I believe this guy is a professional person. He emphasized that twice, very professional. Jeffrey Epstein-- He was, he committed crimes in a very professional-- Very professional. Yeah, top tier. Yeah, you know, second level of the super government tier. Also, you know, I don't know. I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say, maybe these two people that claim abuse, they never went up to him once after he introduced and said, hey, this guy's been doing some crazy stuff to him. Right. I don't buy it. Yeah, I don't buy it either. So I had said he believed Epstein was a casting director from Victoria's Secret owned by Leslie Wexner. And the modeling agency MC Squared, which was John Luke Pranel's modeling agency, CNN found no evidence to support that claim. The Paris Public Prosecutor said the broad Epstein-related investigations they launched in February relating to allegations of human trafficking and criminal conspiracy would continue. So far, 24 women have come forward where I've been identified following a review of information and a call for victims by prosecutors. At least 16 women have been interviewed by investigators and additional interviews are due to take place. But the prosecutor's office said they still had not obtained enough evidence to arrest Sia. Daniel Syed was the subject of special investigative techniques, including telephone intercepts. Although to date, these have not produced evidence justifying his immediate arrest. The office said, I'm going to come back to the section in a second. Deep, that's interesting because telephone-- what does that say telephone intercepts? That could be-- again, I'm pure spec here, because I don't have the details beyond what we're reading altogether right here. But that could be they are currently monitoring his phone now when Jeffrey Epstein's dead and he's not engaged in this. And he's probably, I would guess, until his untimely death here, watching his behavior. Or they'd be going through old telephone records, which would not include the actual verbal calls, which would be listed numbers he calls that would be totally deniable in a court of law, as far as what the subject matter of those conversations were. But there was a release in the Epstein files released by the Department of Justice. They showed that Epstein paid tens of thousands of dollars to Sciad, and one message Sciad wrote, quote, "Cute French girl in Mireque Marrakesh." She said that she will be happy to meet you on quote. Sciad separately said that Epstein had asked for help finding an assistant. And a 2018 email, Sciad wrote that he was looking for quote, a good-looking young assistant, unquote, for Epstein. And another message, Sciad sent a photo to Epstein of a woman describing her as quote, very polite, unquote, and someone who has potential as a model or assistant. And Epstein replied, too old. Sid repeatedly sent Epstein photos a young women he encountered during his travels, some of them and provocative poses according to the DOJ file. Siod's name appears more in 2000 times in the files. Svetlana Post-Dehiva, a Russian foreign model previously told CNN that Siod introduced her to Epstein that he did disgrace financier abused her. I mean, dude, he's doing this all in the years after his conviction. There's, the guys are fucking billionaire. He's not a, he's not a model talent scout. Like, this is extremely, extremely obvious. But now Siod ends up dead. And lucky for us, Joseph Thiefelipus, they have released the results of the autopsies. So, oh, we know that the case is closed, and it's perfectly normal. But let's scroll down right here. And autopsie found no signs of violence in the death of modeling scout Daniel Siod, who had ties to the late convicted U.S. sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein, French prosecutor set on Friday. Siod 69 was found dead in his home in Colombs, Northwest of Paris on July 20th. Quote, no trace of recent violence, potentially linked to the death was found. Non-tier prosecutors office said in a statement, adding that the autopsie conducted on July 23rd had not established a direct cause of death. So they don't have a cause of death yet, but they know there was nothing to see here. The examination did, however, reveal impaired health and traces of previous heart attack, the prosecutors added. Toxology and pathology test to establish the cause of death were still pending. Could be, he's 69, he's not fucking 39. Could be if he had previous heart problems, if that is to be believed that he just fell over. But I do find it interesting that another person falls in the months after Paris, France, I should say, as a whole is actually trying or putting on the optics of saying they're trying to do further investigations into Epstein. And I remind you, this is the same country that used to house credit Leonace, which is Alessia Le Mans, who has worked with me for a very long time and has his own channel, great channel, which is called Alessia Le Mans on YouTube has done some amazing documentary work on that based on the work of our friend Henry Abbott, heavily as well, talking about all the connections that were established there between Epstein, the Leon Blacks of the world, Steve Bannon, and how that goes back to the late 80s. And some very interesting fires at very opportune times happen to burn down that bank. So there was nothing to see there, kind of like Daniel Sayad. Was that all that in John's song, like a candle in the wind? - Yeah. - Yeah. Yeah, I think he was poisoned. If I had to-- - If I had to spec one real quick. - Pure spec, pure spec. I don't think that isn't any way crazy to say, and I know a lot of people out there right now are nodding their heads. No proof, don't know, but very interesting timing for this guy to be dead. Just like John Lupert now definitely off himself in his prison cell on Saturday morning of prisons the weekend in America back when he was in prison in France in 2022, that definitely happened. - Yeah. - It wasn't a news cycle, you know, just drown this guy in the bathtub and no one knows nothing. Yeah, he definitely, I totally, Keith, don't look at me like you don't believe the government's story. - Yeah, no, it's just, you know, I watched that damn break and bad, and now that I know about Ryzen, it's like everywhere you look, yeah. They got him with Ryzen that guy. - They got him with some Ryzen, and think about that. Like that's in a show and everything, but think about all the completely untraceable, I don't know. - Yeah. - Manotech stuff. - DARPA. - That they could be used of course. - Of course. DARPA's fucking 30 years ahead of us, according to many people, I don't know that, you know, it's some form of spec, but like a lot of other people who would know - It's soft spec. - It's soft spec. - That's soft spec. - It's soft spec, but according to Annie Jacobson, they were fucking telepathically talking at dolphins in 1992. - One of those, what are those dolphins now? - What do they know? - Where are those dolphins right now? - The ones near Epstein's Island. Or are they in the straighter Hormuz right now? - You see, see what I did. - They're like an operative team. - They could be something. - Dolphins are smart, but I don't know what to fuck you. - Yeah. - Those are horny bastards. - They are. - You ever seen a dolphin's dick? - I can't remember. - You can't unsee it, you would remember it. - Yeah, I can't remember it. - Yeah, Red Shea was in here talking about that last year. - It's like a weapon. - I don't know if he claims a dolphin never touched them. - It must be nice, guys. It must be nice. - Yeah, he's like, "Ah, they'll try to mat." And he's got like a Boston accent. It's one of Whitey Boulders old guys. He's like, "Ah, they'll try to fuck you too." - I'm like looking at his wife, his wife was sitting in here, like she's like, "Yeah, man, that's interesting." He's like, "Oh, yeah, oh, that's an all-time clip from the podcast, for sure." But again, someone drops, nobody's talking about it because we're busy bombing Iran again. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, I love that. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, Steve, you read my mind. Our friend Amanda Ungaro, I've never spoken with, but she feels like a part of the show at this point. Mandy Ungaro, the ex-wife of Palo Zampoli, also, in the words it's Tim Dill in front of the show. But, you know, Amanda Ungaro, dropped some more receipts that were fascinating. And I actually missed this because this was originally posted on June 14th and she just called back attention to it. But to remind everyone out there, if you didn't listen to some of our previous episodes in the spring where we covered this, Amanda Ungaro, ex-wife of Palo Zampoli, mother of his child, was dating another guy in Miami after that marriage. And that guy was a Brazilian doctor. It wasn't licensed in the US, running a cosmetics clinic. He was arrested for fraud because he wasn't a registered doctor in the US. So she was arrested with him because she managed the office, charges were pending. Palo Zampoli, who's got a fucking prestige worldwide title in this White House that makes no sense. Special envoy to some bullshit or whatever, you know, he calls up his fucking friends at high levels of ice and says, "Hey, my ex-wife just got whacked for something "so you should deported to Brazil, mother of his child." And she gets deported to Brazil and then she starts talking down there. She's an ex-model. She came to America at a very similar time as one Melania Trump, who sits in the White House right now. And then, you know, Melania Trump comes out when Amanda Ungaro starts talking. She comes out and gives a little press conference, talking about Jeffrey Epstein was a very bad man. And I look forward to him getting his victims a day in court. And we're all like, what the fuck? Like that was out of nowhere. Trump claims that he has no, he had no knowledge his wife was gonna come out and do that. That was interesting. I don't know how much they talk about anyway these days, pure spec, but either way. That's kind of a big one to hold back from your husband while he's sitting in the White House, but that's not right here nor there. So anyway, that I think had, there was some timing that related to Amanda Ungaro starting to talk on some things. And so apparently, when Amanda Ungaro was in the custody of the Aventura Police Department, or was in custody of law enforcement, the Aventura Police Department took custody of her phone. So she says, what, how did Paulo's ampoli obtain my phone while I was in custody of the Aventura Police Department? My phone was seized by law enforcement and should have remained secure as evidence. However, according to the location data from my fine, my iPhone account, the device later appeared at Paulo's ampoli's residence in New York. I would like an explanation as to how the phone that was under police custody ended up in the possession of a private individual. Who authorized its release? Who had access to it? And what chain of custody records exist to account for its movement? This matter raises serious concerns regarding the handling of evidence and deserves a full investigation. She tagged at DHS cup. This is, in fact, according to the map shown here, iPhone, Amanda, this is Paulo's ampoli's residence, deep to be clear, this is public information. There are articles about where his residence is in New York. So we are not doxing anyone, but I'll just say the neighborhood. Obviously, people can see from her very public tweet where it is. It's in the Grammar C section in New York City. Very nice neighborhood, by the way. I highly recommend people visiting there. No, they're right near the stand comedy club. Yes, nice. Right off you now. All right, D5, I was trying to be a little bit sorry. And public, you know, she posted it. She used to live in this 12,000 fucking square foot. I think it is monstrosity as well. So she knows it quite well. And that's where her phone was located six days before that post on June 14th, 2026, which is months and months and months after she was deported. Yeah. So, you know, by the way, Palo's been hanging out with the tape brothers a lot. We did talk about that. Yeah. He's starting to cut ties with them. Bad press, you know. It's like, the crime is not whether you did it. The crime is if you got caught or accused of doing it. Yeah. Well, I'm not going to say what kind of doctor. He was a Brazilian doctor. Not good optics, Palo. Not good optics right there. I just, you know, what the fuck? It's already a bad, like, let the legal process play out. It's a bad look when someone who curries favor to the sitting president who also happens to be in Palo San Policeman. and Donald Trump's case, someone who knew Jeffrey Epstein for many, many years, when you then use that power to go to the top of ICE for a vendetta against your ex-wife, who also, again, is the mother of your child. Like that is fucked up, sorry. You know, and again, maybe Amanda knew damn well that her boyfriend who was running the clinic was not licensed in the United States. And in a court of law, she had been given the opportunity to actually go to trial, would have found guilty. I don't know. Maybe not. I do find it interesting. She's charged with felony fraud in the United States and we just deport her. Since when do we do that? We prosecute fucking people for serious felonies here before doing that all the time. That's interesting. You know, and to her credit, that whole allegation aside, like she not shutting up down there. No. Clearly not. She not shutting up. She's letting it rip. She is letting it rip. You know who else is letting it rip? Yeah. Yeah. Alan Richardson. Yeah. So reach her actor, Alan Richon. You guys have seen him. Big dude. Big dude. Definitely, definitely takes to reach her role to the full effect as far as like trying to look the part. But you know, there's something about this guy fucking on some regular Hollywood kind of podcast, losing a shit like this that was kind of music to my ears. But this was from, what is this called? The Happy Sad Confused. Yeah, whoever named that fire them. But the Happy Sad Confused podcast, who hosts that? Happy Sad Confused podcast. I've never heard of that. I'm sorry. Josh Horowitz. All right. Shout out Josh Horowitz. Let's get you to just call it the Josh Horowitz show. Josh like to say something simple. Like I don't know what you're doing. Happy Sad Confused. But this is Alan Richon talking about the lack of justice in the Epstein case. People I think are a little bit afraid of me because they're like he's a loose cannon. And I'm not. I'm just saying the shit that everybody should say if they give a shit about humanity. Everybody else should feel like I feel the world is on fire. Yeah. Like oh man about the way things are and the abuses that are happening every the Epstein files. The fucking Epstein files. God damn it. Where are they? It's a fucking war. You fucking pedophiles. I shouldn't say fuck because I'm a Christian and people are going to be like how can he say fuck and he's a Christian? Because that is something they should make you want to say fuck. You know, sorry, God, I'm sweating now. I just this is my fucking politics, dude. I would fucking railroad these fuckers. I would get those Epstein files out in two seconds. Yeah, dude. I have two seconds. Fucking move out of the way. Like get out of there. I don't care what room there in bitch move. Like give me the fucking Manila envelope. I will get you the Epstein files. I got sorry. I got my vote. Whatever you want to run for. You got it. I don't you want to see what's in there so that we can hope people accountable. These fucking rapists. We're just cold with it. That bitch has the keys to the nuclear. He's like it. We're like all up into 13 year olds. Like dude, what? Go to jail. Go to jail. All right. What are we talking about? That was very Kurt Metzger of him. That was pretty much the right there. God, it's just so fucked up. It's so fucked up. Who the fuck am I talking to? Yeah, I don't know. I know. It's nice to see some other people crash out as well. I feel that's what I was thinking. As soon as he started getting a little out of my dude, that's my dog. That's my dog. It's actually people in Hollywood say and something. Right? Just one. Even if it's one like, you know, I don't watch the Reacher. So like I don't hold stock, but I'm like Jesus. Just one. Thank God. He'll never get a job again now. But either way, worth it. Worth it. He's made his money. So you're spreading those conspiracy theories on the horror with show. Happy, sad, confused. Check out the full episode, I guess. But yeah, I mean, he speaks for everyone there. That's that's that's how we all feel. And it's like, how many clips do you see every week in the feed of like someone? And it's got fucking three, four, five million likes on it. Like, are we going to talk about how some of the fucking government is running around the world by say panic pedophiles and no one's fucking paying for it? And we're not talking about it anymore because it became old news. Like, this is what the fuck? And you know, people out there want justice. And with each passing day, it becomes unfortunately less and less likely that that'll happen. But we will, we will stay on them here. And yes, all the while, you know, part of the distraction of the many litany of distractions we've seen, including a fucking full blown war. More on that later. You know, a part of the distraction is for distraction for the distraction. I don't even know where I'm out with distractions now. But Tommy G, as I mentioned at the outset, came in here in June. And before we even before we got on camera, was talking about this flock documentary that he had just filmed. Now, this was at the time where not a lot of people were talking about the flock cams yet. We're going to obviously be talking about that right now. That's what we're transitioning to. But the thing I've known about Tommy G in the years, I've become good friends with him is that first of all, he's a brilliant journalist and is always at the cutting edge of seeing where the pucks moving and finding things that are going to blow up. But on that note, he has a way of zoning in on something that he knows just needs a little push. And it's going to go. And so whenever I ask him what he's working on, he's always working on like 15 different documentaries at a time. But whatever in my experience, whatever he leads with, whatever first one out of his mouth, he starts talking about and then keeps talking about it without me asking him questions even is the one that's going to end up creating like the spark that sets off all the dominoes going down. And that was the flock thing in June because I'm telling you within two weeks of him being here, suddenly there was a huge story, he had the documentary ready, put it out, the clips of that are viral all over the internet. People are obviously talking about that. Things like D flock, we'll talk about that in a minute, have been around for a while, but now they're exploding. And people are seeing the heat maps of how much these cameras have spread out all over the place. And I say this because, and refer to it as another distraction of the distraction, because it's just another piece of like the surveillance state that the people in the elite classes, which includes obviously the people in the Epstein class and all this fucking hidden world to us that, you know, we previously were told didn't exist. You know, they're, they continue to do all the dystopian things that the George Orwells of the world quite literally warned about and said what happened and they do it at multiple levels, whether that be, you know, using intelligence agencies and assets to commit massive trafficking and arms dealing crimes around the world and get blackmail and important people to basically make everyone shut up and control politicians as we've seen with something like the Epstein story. Or if that includes billionaires planning out surveillance state technology so they can watch all of us while they decrease the birth rate because they make costs get out of control and prevent people from also fucking each other over time because all problems in society that don't need to get into right now, you know, and take away people's freedoms ahead of a population collapse events or I don't know something like that. Yeah, like we're seeing this. And the flock cams are like straight out of a, you know, be list kind of movie with the casting. We'll get to the CEO in some of the videos there. You can't even make this shit up like he is a stereotype and a very, very weak, weak man. This is not someone who in hand to hand combat would, would stand a chance probably with a woman, you know, like I'm, I'm taking the check if she's got to fight him. But Tommy zoned in on this because he saw it as yet another very clear problem with our privacy being and constitutional rights being completely trampled under the guise of safety to go back to for what, the millionth time Joe, the Ben Franklin quote, those who would give up a little bit of liberty at for a little bit of safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Yep. Bar. He had a lot of bars. Yeah. He did. But I want to start with the heat map deep. Yeah, you can see this. This is a time lapse of flock cameras from 2024 to 2026. And before you pull that up, deep, I'm just going to explain a couple things here. Yeah. Just so that we have the ground rules of ground rules. I don't like how that set the ground rules. But the, the specs of what the flock cameras are. Their core uses and capabilities include license plate reading, which captures and logs alpha numeric license plate numbers on public roads, vehicle fingerprinting, which sounds straight out in 1984 identifies non plate characteristics like vehicle make model color roof racks, toolboxes, dense stickers and temporary tags and then stores that in a database hot list alerts, which cross references scan plates and real time again state and national crime databases such as amber alerts or warrants for stolen cars to instantly instantly notify police. And just something I want to say out front here because we're going to show examples of this in a minute. The old quote that like, and I think it was even Peter Schiff was saying it the other day in the like it's worse to have one innocent man in prison than a hundred guilty men free. I agree with that. And that could be a painful thing. We would all selfishly love to see every single murder, obviously every single pedophile and things like that locked up. What I've always said is that the unfortunate thing about the legal system is that sometimes it works too well into the into the rights of the individual. And I say that like sarcastically in the sense that it is on the burden of the government to prove that someone did something wrong. And in proving that they did something wrong, they cannot violate their rights or overreach to try to prove their case. And I will die on that hill that it is better to be that way and also have some really unfortunate people sometimes walk free. And by the way, I want to be clear, there's more than enough trust and probable cost to prosecute a lot of these fucking people in the upstein files and they just choose not to do it. So they'll fuck you with no pun intended with flock cameras. But you know, God forbid we have all the g-mails of a bunch of people talking about raping kids and stuff. No, no, they're they're above that. We won't go after them. So just just another double standard right there, obviously. But going back to core uses and capabilities, crime investigation, flock allows investigators to search historical logs by partial plate, car type or unique attributes to build timelines of a vehicle's movement, stolen vehicle and asset recovery, automatically flags missing one or stolen vehicles, neighborhood and business security deployed by homeowners associations and commercial property managers to deter repeat property theft and monitor perimeter traffic. And then expanded and controversial uses movement tracking. Creates a 30 day default retention period historical record of where a specific car has traveled, which civil liberties groups note can map out sensitive visits to doctors, protests or places of worship. This is exactly what Edward Snowden warned against in fucking 2013. And he's still as forced to live outside the country because he's wanted here for warning about this stuff. What he specifically warned about in his case was using a legal workarounds of the call of the constitution, which is not even a term. There shouldn't be a workaround. It's it's literally illegal in secret courts to say we need to protect Americans by finding terrorists. Therefore, we can we need to be able to assume that all Americans could be a terrorist and just we'll trust us with all your data. Trust us watching you through your phone or through your fucking camera and using it against you in some way, you know, and and by the way, they come back with the argument, the status, and I've heard in Bruce Montes, I said this before and be like the word privacy doesn't appear in the constitution even once. Go through the amendments, though. Not only is it literally laid out as if it's a merriam webster's definition of the term right to privacy in like the first amendment, the fourth amendment. I think the seventh amendment. It's been a while and a couple others. But like the Supreme Court itself has ruled again and again and again throughout this nation's history that the interpretations of the constitution in various cases, which is writing precedent based on what they interpret. Smart stretches in the world. It's supposed to be at least. They've they've laid out that it protects people's right to privacy. You know, whether it be something as simple as in the early days, you couldn't have soldiers stationed in your home or whatever. You weren't required to do that. That's a right to privacy. I still do that, dude. You still do that. You ain't allowed, man. Yeah, that's right. You get a you get a motel with that GI bill. That's right. That's right. You can't you can't be in here. I'm sorry. You visit, but like unarmed can't be but you know, like they've interpreted this that way again and again and again because that's the nation was found on freedom. And you know, the the the status will say, well, if you have nothing hard, you should worry about privacy. Bro, that's not what it's about at all. It's about context. Anyone can decide to take advantage of that if they're in a power situation and fuck you over with context. Be like, oh, why do you have this there and that there? That must mean you're doing this. And then if they get if they're able to take advantage of that in a court of law, they could accuse you of it. If they can violate your privacy, they can plan stuff. I mean, that's that's the oldest trick in the book. They they can fuck you over by blackmailing you or doing whatever they do with surreptitious purposes by literally creating things that weren't there because they were allowed to get into your space, talking about governments and people associated with them. So like movement tracking so that they know where you are. This is China shit, bro. This is this is what they do there. Like people that warned about this 10 years ago were called conspiracy theorists. Mm-hmm. Here you go. Another thing is emerging hardware integration, expand which expands tech lines, including audio/gunshot detection sensors, streaming video drones, and movement tracking configurations. And this is just a starter list right there so that you guys have an idea, but deep has this map up. This is from January 5th, 2024 through July 2026. I want you to watch how many flock cams showed up across America. All right, we got a few. See some bubbles. We're in July 24. So more bubbles. It's getting a little hot. Oh, Trump got into office in January and shit went fucking nuts. Look at that. Look at that, bro. Remember day one in office like the like the day after fucking the inauguration. He was up on stage with Larry Ellison and Sam Altman and all these technocrats about building the AI state and stuff. This isn't even we're even a step below AI here not to say these things are going to be integrating that. But they're putting cameras all over the fucking country. Yeah, that's the last administration with censoring people all over the internet. This administration is allowing people to be fucking tracked everywhere. Yeah, that's not okay. You know, we had Zach Faust here the other day. That podcast will be out. I believe on Friday. If you haven't seen Zach, I've cited him before on the podcast. He does some awesome content on Instagram and TikTok and it's now start to build YouTube. And Zach is a very successful real estate agent by trade who was obsessed with economics. He was a guy who served in in the military after high school and then became a real estate agent. And he started to realize as the years went on that he was like, how do you describe it in the kitchen the other day? He said it's like it's like a scene in a Tom Cruise movie and he pointed at you and me. He's like, you guys are like Tom Cruise. You get on the other side of the wall. And he's like, I was like the last one coming underneath sliding underneath the trap door where the explosion is going to be. And then he pointed at a man and he goes, she's fucked. She's behind the trap door. She got blown up. He had a six foot ladder to climb a 10 foot wall and now the wall is 30 feet, but they haven't increased the size of the ladder. That was another one. How does Gen Z climb the wall? Yes. He's got some amazing visuals. His notebook was also Heath Ledger, Joker, Diary, fucking insanely crazy. It was very, very cool. But great guy. Really funny. You're going to enjoy that podcast. I think there's definitely going to be some future podcasts with Zach as well. And, you know, he got disillusioned over the years because he was able to get that last trickle of success and be able to buy a home for himself. And, you know, with someone who earned that, but he started to see as the years went on, it was getting harder and harder, even just well beyond homes. But if we're just looking at housing for a second for younger people to be able to get into the housing market altogether, the average age of a first time homeowner continues to go up. It's about to be at 40. I think you know, I think it already is. Or it might have just gotten to 40. So he talked about how in he wasn't even talking about flock cams either. He was talking about other regular traffic cams that have been put in on like a popular road by him in Delaware. And the speed limit on that road is 55 miles an hour. And he's like the thing that makes him really, really sour on our future as a country and our ability to fight back against stuff is that when he goes on this road now, there's no one going above 57. This was a road he's like people always went, you know, 66, 68, whatever pushed it. And now everyone is so scared of the cameras that everyone of all ages and demographics are following the speed limit. And what I said to him, I'm not saying like I'm right about this, but it's an interesting, I don't know, caveat to this is yeah, people are following it now while they have something to lose. If you put people in a situation where they don't have anything to lose, fuck, they couldn't even pay a traffic ticket anyway. So who the hell cares? They have no credit. I mean, again, we're living in a country right now. We're almost half of Americans don't have $500 in emergency funding. This is not an impossible future right here. If we get to a point where society is so checked out from things because they don't even have the ability to be checked in, yeah, I think we could be in a place not to encourage people being fucking speed demons everywhere. But like yeah, they might be like, fuck it. I don't care if the camera takes a picture of me. What are you going to do? I don't even live in a home. Where are you going to mail the ticket? You know, so like, just because people do comply with stuff, we saw that throughout the pandemic as well and how much society just adapted right away. And just because as cameras get put in in more and more places, whether the flock cams or something else, people are complying right now, it's because there's even if shit is bad, especially for the younger generations, there's still just enough to lose that people care to follow the rules. Society exists on order because we agree on certain things that are within all of our interests to agree on. If suddenly people don't have, suddenly, if over time it finally crosses a point where it falls off a cliff and people don't have enough to lose, they're not going to agree on shit, because who cares? And that's not an unrealistic future with some of the trends that we're heading down. So going back to the flock cams, you saw the map, you saw how crazy this got. It is correlated to blowing up when Trump comes into office at least on paper right there. Could correlation not imply causation in some ways? Maybe it's possible, but that timing looks awfully interesting. And when you look at the people who were up on the dais at his fucking inauguration, it looks even more interesting. This is also coming at a time again, separate thing here, similar theme to where you were seeing all these data centers and shit pop up all over the place where the tenants, the three to five tenants that are going to be in these places are the companies like OpenAI, like Google, like Microsoft. Companies that certainly meta, that certainly over the past decade, decade and a half have not instilled confidence in us, wanting to entrust them with being able to have the most data gathering activity that they've ever had at scale with, you know, 62 square mile fucking data centers and shit. Yeah. You see Trump said this week, he's like he can't fight data centers. You can't fight it, you just gotta let it happen. You're gonna love it. It's like the jokes right themselves, dude. The jokes right themselves. I just, I really do wonder from like a rebel standpoint. Forget policies or politics or what he believed or didn't believe. I do wonder, you know, maybe it was all the plan the whole time, but like if you showed Donald Trump in 2015, a video of him talking in 2026, and you know, you were off camera, you're just watching him watch it. And you're like, sir, this is what you're gonna be saying in the future. I do wonder what he would say. You're like, nah, it's nebby. I was a fool then. I was a big fool. It's like, it's insane. But we're going back to the flat cameras. When you see things put up in that volume, that fast. Yeah, it should have your attention. Yeah, people who care about their individual rights are gonna fight back against that. And apparently the only person who couldn't for the life of him see this coming and it certainly doesn't understand the merits of it is the fucking CEO of the company. Do you pull up the clip where he called deflockers terrorists in the under 2025? So, you know, what the fuck is this guy's name? I don't even know his name. It's fine. I mean, it doesn't matter. Fucking asshole. But let's at least give his name super lucky. Let's get his name. Let's get his name. CEO, flock. Garrett Langley. Garrett Langley. Sure is a great guy. Anyway, so. Langley. This is back in the fall. Let's just like Garrett say it. How about that? You've got organizations like the ACLU and EFF who take an above-a-board approach to fight for their point of view. And thankfully, we live in a beautifully democratic capitalistic country where we can fight with everyone. And I have a lot of respect for those groups because they have reasonable debates and we follow the law. But. It's terrorist organizations like Deflock, whose primary motivation is chaos. They are closer to Antifa than they are anything else. And that I think is unfortunate because we want to answer. I don't want chaos. I don't want chaos. Like a society that has a better off of safety. So for those groups, I think it's just disappointing that they haven't chosen a more constructive mannerism, try to get what they want, which they have a right to have. But that's why we have a democratically elected process. Right? Like, we're not forcing flock on anyone. Let's officials know that as a community, you want to be safe. We want to be safe. Trade a little safety. Trade a little liberty for a little safety. That is such fucking corporate bullshit. Yeah, I was going to close the match. I don't know where he went to college, but like the worst stereotype of like Ivy League, I think I'm way smarter than I am, NEPO baby bullshit, that you'll ever hear. Yeah. Yeah, where do you go to college? College of Georgia Institute of Texas? Yeah, that's not Ivy League. You get my point. Yeah. Like, just someone who is so lost in their own world that they can't even see what's right in front of them. Yeah. Like you again, how many times are we going to say this about different people, whether it be the Epstein class, whether it be the fucking Trump administration, the Israeli government, these fucking guys, read the room. Yeah. It's not hard. Read the room. People don't like this. People who don't have that economic opportunity at a rate that at a larger rate than we've seen in America in a long time, by the way, when you're looking at percentages of society, don't like this. People who just want an ability to freely go after their life and not have every single thing track. People who are living in a world where dating is now swipe left and swipe right on everyone and everything is roboticized and optimized and the human touch is taken away. They don't want this. So when you call people who are out there saying, fuck these cameras, rip them down, because I don't know. Maybe they value their privacy, kind of like the guys who did the Boston fucking tea party, he's calling them terrorists. This is a red coat. You're a red coat, Garrett. You're welcome on the show, by the way. I'm happy to talk with you. Don't seriously. Open in. Bye. See you right here, buddy. Yeah. You did later apologize for this though. Yeah, I think reading the room is a poor man's game too, is what I'm realizing it's a poor man's game. Yeah, because we're it's only normal people who ever think of doing it, it seems. I think I think you're right about that. The people who are the people who have even in some cases been people who are self-made and achieved a lot and done it through hard work and everything have gotten far and far farther and farther away from just the common man that they don't even try to talk to them anymore. Let alone listen to them. No, for sure. Because we say optics every week. And I'm like, clearly these people don't give a fuck about optics, not even one of them. It feels more and more like a simulation, the more you see stuff like this, let's get his apology statement. He later had to walk this back, which I'm sure, you know, his PR person walked in his office and said, Garrett, listen, okay. Let's scroll down right there so I can read it. This is from earlier this year for the last two years, well, Freeman has been advocating against flock safety in a point three billion dollar surveillance company that tracks vehicles with a network of over 80,000 cameras is organization deflock crowdsourced a map that shows where the company's cameras are located and helps local grassroots movements organize against flock deployments in an interview with Forbes last year. Fox CEO Garrett Langley described to flock as a terrorist organization. Now, as flock faces an increasingly vitriolic public backlash, oh, no, if it isn't the punishment of my own actions, Langley says he regrets that label, quote, my comments were a mistake and I apologize. There are groups today that have real valid criticisms of the business. And I think what changed for us is as we've listened to them and heard them out, what we're trying to do is find this balance. We believe in a world where we can have safety and private sounds good. It sounds good. That's brilliant. We said, Joey, deep. It sounds good. And like, look, I don't want, like let's not be misheard here. Let's not be taking on context. I don't want to see Mad Max ferry road out there. I don't want to see chaos. I don't want to see crime numbers through the roof. I want to live in a country that has the highest degrees of like good, civilized, safe communities. I'm just not willing to sacrifice constitutional rights under the guise of trying to achieve that. Yeah. Because by the way, let's, let's look at this in a fair way to Garrett. Let's say that Garrett is not a complete asshole. He's just in, he's a useful idiot who is incentivized to use his company and is being told it's for good. And it's later by people way above his pay grade going to be used for evil. Well, you're a part of it, my guy. You're a part of it. Yeah. I just want to see a guy come out too that like doesn't look like like every other one of these dweebs and has that same speak like it's never just like some average Joe Shmoe who's like, I had this great idea and started this company. Yeah. Well, hit that third link right there, fired employees, get out into temporary hot list. Oh, yeah. This was good. I was actually really the last one like he was like, how did he put it in the last one? He's one of those guys. that says everything is a question, you know, like it's not really good. It's like, dude, come on, you're a man. Talk like a man. Here we go. >> General has 7,000 stores. >> Oh, and there it is. >> The store is activated. >> They're added to a localized hot list. >> It's a way into your corporate business, because again, people associate you with selling to municipalities, but obviously, you sell a lot to corporate's as well. >> Yeah. That's a big part of our business. We don't proxy towards necessarily market cap or revenue. We proxy to physical locations. Like, how many locations? So someone like a dollar general is a way better prospect for us. This dollar general has 7,000 stores. >> That's subway. >> Yeah, you want subways a good example. >> They're being challenged theft. >> Like, that's what they're worried about. >> I'd say employees is, I'd say three years ago when we started the business unit, it was assets. >> The assets is like, it's good, but in worst case, you just raised prices. >> Seeing about some of these businesses, they might terminate half a million people a year. One more people a year. It takes one angry employee to come back. And so in our system, you can have an automated, you know, with the HRS, that like, when an employee is terminated, they're added to a localized hot list. That point ever comes back from campus. Study legal. But notify security is why people have security teams. Like, don't let them in the building. >> And again, where does that power end up extending beyond that to where you track their movements? I don't know in other places. Don't call us crazy for asking those questions. We're not. Like, if he can't see that, I can't help him. He is literally doing the meme right there. Sacrifice the liberty of all of them to save the security on one of them. >> I'm calling it now. We're going to see a story about this in the next year or two. And it's going to have to do with like a corporate affair and something's going to go crazy. >> Two people banging each other and they got fired, stalking. I'm telling you, I feel like that's going to happen easily. >> Again, something I wouldn't advocate, like, don't do that. >> Right. >> But like, where does it overstep? >> Patriot act, dude. Let's go stop the terrorist bro. >> The Patriot act and that was, again, to give Edward's known as his flowers. When he talked about that years ago, and I think he talked about it, both sit down with Joe Rogan, but the first one he did, what was that number 1468, I want to say? 1368. He talked about when you want to name a bill, when you want to pass a really evil bill, name it something that no one can disagree with. And he uses the example like, no one's going to vote against something called the Save the Puppies Act. But the Save the Puppies Act said, yeah, we're going to blow up seven countries inside of it. Well, it's not exactly saving the puppies. They named that thing the Patriot act back then, at a time when the towers had just fallen and everything, it's like, who's not going to be a fucking Patriot? I just saw the Mel Gibson movie. That's what I got to do. And it just trampled on people's privacy and protection. And it has now metastasized into shit like this. And again, let's look at the other side of the eight ball here. All right. Because I don't want to be an unempathetic person. I just want to show what I think is worse overall for society. If you're the mother of a kid who was killed by a drunk driver, a hit-and-run on an open road that could have had a flock camera and didn't, I mean, I have no words for that mother. It's the worst possible thing ever. And I feel horrible about that. And I understand the bias that would exist in that situation to where she's like, can we get more flock cameras? Unfortunately, that mother then becomes a useful data point for people who are like, yeah, we need a lot more of those. To say, look at this heartbroken mother of a child who was seamlessly taken by a drunk driver who left the scene who we couldn't catch because we didn't have the cameras to catch them. And they use that as the Trojan horse to then go in, which is the worst thing you can do, take advantage of situations like that. But because I'm against this in that type of extreme situation, doesn't mean I don't feel horrible for that mother and wouldn't want to do everything I can to try to bring the killer to justice. Of course, I would. I'm just not going to do that at the expense of trampling on our constitutional rights. There have been cases in the past where murderers have gone free because the government broke the law in the chain of custody, in things like not reading their Miranda rights and stuff like that, illegally interrogating them and stuff. And I hate that for the victims that the people who killed their loved ones went free. Unfortunately, the government has a job to do. And that requires them to uphold the rights of all the citizens in this country. So like, again, we're always going to be taken out of context. People can make 30-second clips and later use them against us. Everyone on the internet can have that happen. But when we're talking about these topics that, especially ones where I feel strongly and I think a lot of people out there listening feel strongly right now, you know, I'm going to see the context of the people who could be used to try to get these things through and empathize with where they're at. And certainly it's no different in this situation. But I don't know. I'm not trying to be like too too hard on that guy. I don't know him. I would talk to that CEO in here. I don't know how well for him that would go. But, you know, you have to, you've got to stop thinking about your quarterly report with every fucking thing you do and get out and talk to people. And you know what? If your business isn't there because of that, pivot to another business. I'm sure you could use this technology for something else that doesn't fucking trample on everyone's privacy. Go do that. But maybe that would be harder. Yeah. It's the age of optimization dude. Optimization's ruining everything. That's right. It's like when you think of a person who's like one of those optimizing people, it's like when you optimize so much, you almost become like a stale person who like can't do anything because you can't live. And like that's what's happening to the country. We're optimizing so much that like the actual country is seemingly starting to get stale. However, you want to define that. Yes. Because we need to have like efficient technology for every single little thing so that like we could stop every single drunk driver. And like sometimes I think with some of these things, it's just like you just gotta let life happen. You know, and I know that's way easy for me to say if like I knew someone killed in a drunk driving accident, I might say otherwise, but can't just optimize every single fucking thing. Maybe it's because I always forget which one is left brain and right brain brain, but whatever the creative side is, that's obviously what my brain is and obviously what your brain is. Maybe it's just that talking, but I like the artistry of life and the artistry of life kind of meshes together all the good and the bad to make a full picture and give you the meaning of what life is worth, which includes you going through hard things and going through good things and understanding what both of those sides are. And some people have to go through more of the hard things unfairly because they're just dealt a different hand. But those end up a lot of times being the people most impressed with especially those who are able to enjoy life to the fullest as a result of the pain that maybe they've gone through. They inspire me forever. I know like even on my own pain and my experiences in life, that stuff drives me and inspires me to do other things. And it doesn't take away the fact that I felt those things along the way. And the optimization culture wants to make everything zeros and ones and just try to land on all the ones. Yeah. And it's like, you know, it'd be interesting to talk to Brian Johnson and see where he's at. He's a billionaire. He made all his money, obviously like building businesses and stuff and now wants to try to figure out how to live forever or whatever. But I don't. He lives between his two years and he can know the truth. But I don't know how someone like that can be happy. I don't know how you can be happy trying to literally every second of every day create everything in such a perfect way so that you can race against God and beat him. Not for me. It doesn't it doesn't mean that I don't try to sleep well. It doesn't mean that I don't work out every day and I watch what I put in my body and try to optimize things so I can feel good. I do those things. Sure. But we go out. We have a nice vendor. Yeah. That's where I was. I was out last night and it's like, yeah, like I still want to go out and have a fucking slice of pizza or get a drink with fun. Yeah. And like hang out with friends. Like we've read Tuck Everlasting for a reason in school. You don't want to you don't want to drink the fountry youth and live forever. You're going to be fucking miserable. Yeah. I don't think the living forever thing would be a blessing. No. And I mean to get like two green mile on you. But you know, if you've ever seen that movie, I think the message in there is really interesting because spoiler that the curse was Tom Hanks' character ended up having his life elongated into God knows when as a result of the things that happen in that movie. But it's like, you don't want to die tomorrow. You don't want to have a cut short. But like also the beauty of life is found in the fact that you know it can end at any moment. It's a very strange dynamic. It's something that I'm sure you all out there think about in some way. I think about it all the time. It's like you control. You can control. But at some point when you try to bring everything into your control, you actually control nothing. Yeah. Well said. So one other thing, you found something great on this and I want to play this because it's a pretty good example. But the Colorado woman who was found via the flat cameras as a theft suspect, like this is what I mean. We have camera. You know, and before you play this, Steve, Alessie was talking with a friend of his, I'll say, in another state who's a police officer who was like really talking against him with this flock stuff, like, you have no idea how much this is broke down crime and shit like that. And Alessie's like, I'm all about bringing down crime, but I'm worried about the privacy if you thought about how people could take advantage of this. And like talking to this guy was like talking to someone who will see no reason or logic. They just want to see an end result. And it does worry me. I'd love actually some of our law enforcement guys to pop in in the comments regardless of what side of the issue you're on. I would love to hear from you guys in there to make the case in either direction and, you know, get praised or roasted, whatever people in the comments are going to do. But, you know, I, I just think it's so easy to see the bigger picture here and I don't understand why guys like that don't, but let's play this video. We have cameras everywhere in that town. You can't get a breath of fresh air. Inner out without us knowing. Christina Elzer learned the power of flock firsthand. You were in town from 1152 until 1209, exactly. Like I said, nothing gets in or out of the town without us knowing. When a Colorado police officer showed up at her door holding flock snapshots of her truck. And here's when you left at 1209, that's when you left. No to stop at Ridge Trail and take a package. So there's no shushing I don't need to be the first thing he pulled out on the bodycam is that flock picture, the clear photograph of your car. But here's your vehicle in the neighborhood many, many times apparently casing houses because you just can't drive through for work or visit other businesses in casing houses. It is her. It is 100%. It is locked in. There is zero doubt. I wouldn't have come here unless I was 100% sure 100%. It is certain. It is on video. You're obviously welcome to go to court. Chris Anna was charged with stealing a package, but it wasn't her. That's also the thing. It then becomes the burden on the person to have to prove their innocent in court rather than yeah, the government, meaning you have to take time out of your day because this isn't like a fucking quintuple felony or something. But you know, it's a case, but the courts always move fast, don't they? I got to deal with this shit. That's right. Even the way he talks of like you do not come into this town or do anything without us knowing. Yeah, go fuck yourself. But let's keep going. So this was not her on the video, but you can see someone's taken a package right here. Porge pirate was somebody else. Multiple times you tried to show him your video evidence. He didn't want to see it. He said that's not my job. I looked at a time of a crime, saw my vehicle entering in the flock. No, no, what I did was, I did an investigation, I have video evidence, I don't know what you want me to say. The charges were dropped after Chrisana spent weeks trying to get the police chief to look at her evidence, time stamped video from her truck, and the neighbor's doorbell camera showing she wasn't at the scene of the crime. What does it say about where we are that you feel you have to have more cameras than the police have in order to make sure you can prove yourself innocent? It sounds like it flipped the script to your guilty until you prove yourself that. That's good right there. Without a flock camera, that's, and again, that's, that's crazy. But, you know, Tommy G in the documentary, he did an amazing job. Like I said, all he wanted to do, and he discussed this, if you watched our podcast last month, we're, we're talking about. All he wanted to do was see how these guys felt, when their technology got turned around on them. Spoiler alert, they didn't like it very much. Oh, and sir, sir, are you with flock? What? Are you with flock? I mean, there it is, a script to prove I love this CSD. This man, James Boyce, is a former British Army veteran and a current flock supply chain manager. Not only did he lie about working for flock, which I'm guessing is probably normal at this company, but he also implied that George a law enforcement that I could have been armed and will soon see if that puts my life in danger. You're holding me until that guy talks, but you're not telling if I'm going to be detained. Yeah, you are. Am I allowed to leave? Can I go on my car and leave? Are you safe right now, sir? We've had reports that you've been to basically every flock safety site facility that you know of. Correct. Yeah. So your surveillance is correct. We're doing our own surveillance. Yeah. We don't feel safe. Oh, go fuck yourself. Oh, wait, you don't feel safe being surveilled. Is that what you're saying? That's what you guys do to us without our consent. Okay. And I think it's interesting. When you guys have this happen, you call the police and make us get stopped, but you're under surveillance, sir. That's it. Yeah. I mean, that's just so perfect. Fuck that guy. And just they can't even see the irony. So I don't know anything more. Say on that, we'll continue to follow the story. And we are working on a podcast. I'll just say that on really going through this from the ground floor where we will get way more details on the actual specifics of the explosion of cameras. You saw the map and everything, but what went into that everything they're doing, all the bad cases that have been reported, at least some of the major ones. And I think that one will be very, very fun. But I'm so glad that Ben Shapiro has finally agreed to go fight on the shores of Iran in this war that he's so gung ho on fighting. Can we play the clip? It's down below all the 219 stuff. Can we play the clip of his previous statement? I'm going to play Ben talking last year, assuring us, assuring us that, you know, the United States, we're not looking for a protracted war with Iran or anything like that. I just want to make sure we get in his words, Joe, if here we go. You should take into account the things that they say will happen that do not even come close to happening. Okay, fine. So if President Trump acts and by acting, again, we are not talking about a full scale on the ground, boots on the ground, invasion of Iran, full scale regime change nation. No one's talking about that. And I want to point out again, people are lying to you about this. They're lying to you. Many of them are lying because they believe this is what's going to happen. Okay. Now go to my tweet. It was the link before that again. I look forward to Ben grabbing his helmet and heading over there as I say in this tweet. But this is what Ben Shapiro put out a couple days ago in reference to the now ongoing seemingly escalating conflict in Iran where the MOU now appears to be as close to dead as it can get. But here we go. I get why people are confused and upset. It feels like it's our stalemated and broader and more difficult. That's right. Why? Well, because what the American people want is victory. They want victory. Our notion, you want it in foreign policy, that the American people are deeply worried about the immediate cost of war to the enemy. They're not worried. You're not worried. That the American people that we can't handle the ugliness of war for even a day that every conflict has to be totally antiseptic. That's right. And here I'm not even talking about the American willingness to undergo casualties. No one in America wants American casualties. It's tragedy and a horror. We do understand that war does come along with casualties. But not for me, our goal is casualties in pursuit of an end in a victory for America. But as far as the idea that for example America, we can't hit cargo island because the Iranian people would then be deprived of oil resources. The American people are, I should say, not particularly concerned about that. We are far more concerned with why we're there not winning. I think what we actually ought to do is say an eye for everything. And you touch a ship in the straight of our moves and we kill the head of the IRGC. We kill Halibov. We kill your entire leadership class. Again, we destroy south powers and we strike hard one drone, and that's what happens. That is the way you win in the middle. It by the way is the way you win general. That's the way you win. Show me a win we've had in the last 25 years in the Middle East, Ben. I'll wait. We haven't had one. That's not how you win. Blowing up everything, carpet bombing, everything is not how we win. And actually, let me be fair for a second, cleaning up ISIS. They did a pretty nice job with that, but that never would have happened in the first place with our all these endless Middle East wars. We know how Afghanistan ended after ISIS was allegedly cleaned up and everything in 2021. We lose these wars because we decide to use guns and bombs rather than actually trying to take the best off ramp for everyone. And unfortunately, there are losers when that happens, but there are fewer losers. And we were saying in the podcast we recorded today earlier with sabbatical, it's like, you know, I don't know how many fucking times I'll have to say this, sure you heard it in the Joe Kent sit down in 452, we put out on Monday, but you can't just go invading every place that you don't like that has an evil government. That's not how the world works. I wish it was. I wish it was perfect. It's not. It's not. You can't fucking do that. And I-- I think unfortunately the messaging from the Trump government and the Israeli government has been so piss poor on this and the actions taken have been so evil in some cases that a lot of people are now starting to question whether or not the Iranian regime is bad. I am not one of those people. There are Iranian regime. I don't give a fuck what you say. It's not a good regime. They do awful things to their people. I've said forever. I just love to see their people get a new government. We're not going to meet a wants to do it though. I hope we're not going to try. It has not worked. We're not good at it. It is not in our interest. It is not in the interest of all of our quote unquote allies around the world who actually many of whom are in range of Iranian ballistic missiles who didn't want this fucking war is not in their interest either. The only place that wants this to happen is Israel. Why? Ben Shapiro claims to care about America. He doesn't give a flying fuck about America. He never saw a war in the Middle East that he didn't love because a war in the Middle East destabilizes the region and allows Israel to continue their propaganda and to get stronger. I don't need to have anything against Israel as a country. I fucking detest their government. I detest the things they are doing to people in Gaza, which is a genocide. I detest the things they're doing to people in Lebanon, which is a full blown ethnic cleansing with elements of genocide. And I'm sick and tired of us doing things that are in this interest. Just this week, Smotritch, the finance minister who's a total fucking scumbag, genocidal maniac said he doesn't want any Israeli boots on the ground in Iran. He's good with how it's set up now with American boots going there. God forbid some of their guys died for the war that they want. These people tell you who they are and you have to fucking listen. And Ben Shapiro wonders why no one watches him anymore and the people that do only watch him so that they can hate comment on him, which I appreciate all you people for doing that. He wonders why. He probably does. He's got to know behind the scenes, but he pretends to wonder why. It's because he doesn't speak for the common man. This is the same guy who told people to get lost. If he can't afford to live in the town, you grew up and moved somewhere else. It's the same guy who has never talked to a normal fucking American in his life, unless it was a third grader that he was trying to own in some debate. Or if he was playing violin for them at some fancy dinner when he was a kid. Right. He is an invention. He is not a real fucking person. And I just, the guys like him and the guys like Mark Levin, I am just sick and fucking tired of him. And so this week, Mayor Mom Donnie in New York, whose political stances, I mean, I don't, it's nice film. Pot holes. That was nice. But like, I don't agree with any of this guy's politics. He's a full blown socialist. Like that doesn't work. All right. It just doesn't work. And I got no problem saying that. But he put out a really pretty damn close to perfect statement about Netanyahu. And the reason he did is because he had been looking into the legality of him being able to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu, who is who is wanted by the ICC, the International Criminal Court. And he was looking into the legality of arresting Netanyahu while he would be visiting here in New York. And he put out a statement where he explained that after looking at the legality of that, he did not have the jurisdiction to do so. But he called on the federal government of the United States, who does legally have the jurisdiction to do so to make that arrest. Now, let me look at some of the people who criticized this that aren't just like the hard court Zionists and stuff like that. Some people say, oh, well, why does the same guy who says this about Netanyahu, not say this about Castro and other like totalitarian socialists leaders who have killed their people who he actually claims to think are good. Fair. I don't know how many of them are actively wanted by the ICC. I'd have to look at that. I don't have that in front of me. And if the ICC has not looked at charges for some of those places, maybe they should. And that's fair. It does not change the fact that there's not a word here that he said wrong unless you want to get into the semantics that some of the casualties he's talking about are people like in Hamas. Many of them though are not. They're women and children, which was a part of the plan. And whether you like his politics or not, this was perfect. Play it. Benjamin Netanyahu is a worker. The architect of a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people is responsible for the killing of more than 73,000 people for the maming of tens of thousands of children. It's true as those who survive undergo amputation without anesthesia. That's true. For the targeting of neonatal hospitals and maternity care centers, nine newborns even the chance to live. For the countless people he starved as he blocked food and humanitarian aid from reaching them. For the gunning down of hundreds of aid workers and journalists. And just last month, the UN confirmed that Palestinian children continue to be deliberately targeted and killed by Israeli armed forces, more than eight months after the so-called ceasefire. The list goes on and on. All as we, as Americans, pay for the bombs that do the killing. That's true. There is a reason the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for his arrest. As human beings, we have spent generations building a shared understanding that there are crimes so grave they offend all of human. Anyone with their eyes, with their heart, with their conscience should recognize the devastation he has wrought and understand that he belongs before a court of law. As I've said, I agree with the ICC, the Benjamin Netanyahu should be arrested and tried for his crimes. As I do for anyone else charged by the ICC, my administration has refuted every avenue available under a applicable law to determine whether New York City could execute the International Criminal Court's arrest warrant if Benjamin Netanyahu came here. It is clear that we do not have the independent legal authority to enforce this warrant. The federal government, however, does, and I call on them to join the ICC and execute this warrant. And I want to be equally clear, Benjamin Netanyahu is not welcome in New York City, nor is any other war criminal at large, but we cannot end the genocide on our own. We can decide whether our silence will become another weapon, and we can examine every tool we have to defend the humanity and dignity of all people. That is my commitment to you. Yeah. It's perfect. And by the way, even though he was broad in the language and not specific with people, he made very clear that would apply to anyone else charged by the ICC at the very least as well. And that would be fair. Because also, I believe, I don't have it in front of me, but the ICC has charged people related to Moss and Hezbollah. So like if they fucking came here, the ones that are still alive, he's saying he would arrest them. And I would hold them to it. By the way, obviously he can't, but I would hold him to calling on the federal government to arrest them, which they certainly would, by the way, if they ever fucking came here and they wouldn't. They have a bunch. You know, they do have a bunch. So these are all the cases. Okay. So these are, well, these are people in custody right now. So Warren of arrest. Yeah. Yeah. Warren of arrest. So who's that guy? That's from the Central African Republic. Can we find people specific to like Hamas and Hezbollah? I don't know. You look. I'll keep talking. Either way, he is saying that part. And again, I'm a guy who judges things as best I can on a case by case basis and looks at the facts of what I see in front of me. Socialist or no socialist, fair statement right there. And the response to his statement is also not helping the issue. When you see very hard core Zionists in the United States, like Bill Ackman, let's call him out right now, put out some TLDR like he always does. First of all, in the opening paragraph of his TLDR denying that it's a genocide and decrying the fact that it was called that, sorry, Bill, it is a genocide what's going on there. But also then pointing to this as being anti-Semitic, you Bill Ackman are the one hearing the term Jewish there. At no point does he say that in there? He is calling out a foreign government and particularly one guy, the leader of said government for what they did. It has nothing to do with his race. You Bill are the one making this about race. I refuse to stoop to your level. That is below my bar. And I am sick of it. I have stated this a million times, I will state it a million more times. I'm tired, deep. It's been a long week. I'm tired of this stuff. And I've said this to some extent. I think I've said it on some other podcasts. But again, we have a clip from when we were on John's podcast last week that's done a couple of million views, I think on Instagram, where we're going through. My mom Donnie won the election in the first place and it's become one of the initial primary election. The Democratic primary for mayor, which effectively was like making them win the election at that point. What put him over the top was that fucking TV debate that nobody was winning. watching where they asked the question of the 13 Democratic candidates where they would visit internationally first and everyone was just screaming to be able to answer first how much they wanted to go to Israel. And when it got to mom Donnie, he said, yeah, let's play the clip. This was actually good. This was on our friend John Rondy's podcast right here. I couldn't express this any better. So let's go right here. There are a United States city that we call New York City. Where will your first international visit be? And you watch this stage every time they put in say the word is real fast enough. I mean, they were jumping to say it. It was like someone had zapped them like a dog crossing an electric fence, like say Israel. Right. And they're like, my first visit is going to be Israel. Thank you. Then it gets to mom Donnie who's just standing there calmly like this and he's no fan of Israel. But again, that's got nothing to do with the New York race. And he said something like as mayor of New York City, which is the office and running for I look forward to serving all of my constituents right here in New York City. I think he said something like I want to get out there and hear the issues of New York. So he wouldn't even pick any city around the world. Long term, Cuomo jumps in. He won't say it. He hates Israel. He won't say it. Then they all start piling up. He hates it. He can't say it. And then the panelists go, sir, sir, do you believe in the existence of a Jewish state in a minute? They went like this as the mayor like I can't put that any better like that was that was it right there. Like he won the election for something that had like put him over the top. I should say to win the election was something that had nothing to do with New York. And you know, two things, number one, the older demographics and the people who are really against people like mom Donnie coming up and I for one do not think socialist principles are a good idea and any stretch. And I think that that trend would be bad for America to go to I would like I got my problems with traditional Democrats and traditional Republicans, but I'd much rather see traditional Democrats and traditional Republicans, the corruption I know go against each other than like socialist and fascists or whatever that said number one, you have to know where the younger demographics as in people below age 55 are as far as being aware of some of the problems with our relationship with Israel as a quote unquote ally. And if you cannot read the room on that you're going to be voted out of office. That's number one. So if people like mom Donnie and the socialist sees on that opportunity, that's your fault for letting them do that. Someone else can see where this is going. Number two, enjoy if you put this amazing all credit to you on this, deep is talked about in the past that when you talk to people who turn to people like mom Donnie and vote for them, whether it be 22 year olds, 25 year olds, 28 year olds and people in their 30s. How do you put it? If you're like, they're not checked out the system. They never had a part in this. Yeah, they have no stake. They don't have a 401k. They don't have any savings, they don't have stocks, they don't own any sort of assets. They're all paying crazy rent, crazy grocery prices. So are you surprised that they think the system of capitalism isn't working for them? Perfect. I mean, yeah, it's not right or wrong. It's just fucking logic. That's crazy to me. It's logic. And so instead of yelling at people and be like, how can you fucking any exotic socialism instead ask them why? Don't ask that. Don't try to trick them up and quiz them on, well, do you know how the socialism hasn't worked anywhere around the world? Let's say I know that. That's fine. That's not what I'm leading with. I'm not there. You don't, what was the old quote my mom used to tell me and I'm sure a lot of moms out there. Like you get bees with honey, not vinegar or something like that. You don't yell at them and stick your finger in your face and say, I know way more than you. You fucking idiot. No idea where this goes. Instead, you ask them. Why? They are where they are. And then you try to come up with solutions that might be an interest to them because it speaks their language and gets them into a situation where maybe they can be a part of a system that actually works for them. And that's what he did when you talk about it all the time with when he was out campaigning in the Bronx. He wasn't saying orange man bad. How could you? He's like, why did you vote for him? And they're like, I had more money in my pocket. That's right. Well, we'll do free child care and free buses like do you think that'll help? It's like, of course. And you can't expect it. It doesn't mean someone's dumb because they don't understand that a new solution they heard from someone who's making them promises historically doesn't work. That's a very bad assumption to make. People are voting on what can best take care of their family and whatever the newest latest thing that might give them an outside chance at doing that. They're going to roll the dice on because they don't have anything to lose. They throw in the fact that he's a young guy. I mean, we're pretty quick to like never talk about that. But it's like everyone, these old people running things, old people running things. So they see a guy who's young, who's with it, who can speak well and he's offering solutions. Whether he pulls them off or not, of course, they're going to flock to it. Instead of that miserable fuck Cuomo, and he would sit on the panels, just looking pissed off that he had to leave his house. He couldn't even be helped to get out of his fucking black car to talk to people miserable. Yeah. And it's just like, what do you, what do you expect? That's what it is. So like, instead of just attacking, and by the way, you're not, when, when, when you start to put words in his mouth, which was like a BLM tactic, by the way, like everyone's a racist. If they, if they say something that could even be interpreted through six degrees of Kevin Bacon as fucking racist, that's what you're doing with him. And he is talking about announcing why he legally cannot arrest someone wanted by the ICC. That he had previously said he was looking into. So he was updating the public, which is in their interest to say, I am not legally allowed to do this, but I'm calling on the federal government to do it. There's nothing wrong with doing that. And like I said, if the mosque guys came here, the Hezbollah, yeah, arrest them too, like this isn't hard, I don't play whack-a-mole pick and choose. I play whack all the moles. Enough said. Now let's close on the Tates. So the Tates got arrested, because we pull up that first. Yeah, the archive. Yeah. Yeah, let's do that one. So it's really zesty when he got arrested, by the way. No comment. I'm saying brother, come on now. Tight fit. I mean, Jesus. Tight fit. Like a ballerina. Yeah. Social media influencer and brother appear in Miami federal court where lawyers say they will fight extradition to the UK. Let's go down. So that is referring, obviously, to Andrew and his brother Tristan. Andrew tape will face charges of rape, sex trafficking, and pornography, including charges related to indecent images of a child. The 39-year-old social media influencer was arrested alongside his brother Tristan on Saturday after the Crown Prosecution Service issued a string of new sex abuse charges against them. The brothers appeared in a federal courtroom in Miami on Monday where lawyers said they would fight extradition to the US. Tade is facing seven counts of rape, three counts of sex trafficking, three counts of assault, and 19 more charges related to indecent images of a child extreme pornography. His younger brother will face one account of sexual assault, two counts of rape, and three counts of sex trafficking. At the hearing, the Tates wore light brown prison suits and only responded with the S. Your Honor. Let's go down to do according to the unsealed documents and to annotate repeatedly placed one woman in chokeholds until she passed out, then raped her during an alleged attack at her home in Bedford in 2015, another woman alleged that he had visited her home in Manchester and choked her to the point that she was afraid Tate was going to kill her. To complain alleged, Tristan Tate regularly choked, beat and raped a woman with whom he was in a romantic relationship in 2012 and 2013, the woman told authorities that he regularly choked her into unconsciousness, gave her a black eye, and whipped her with a belt, causing wealth and bruises. All right, we get the picture. It's nasty accusations. There's another link there of Andrew Tate, two months before his arrest, talking about what he's going to earn. Now, I haven't worked on my Andrew Tate accent in a while, but you see him in this interview with Jackie's. He's like, "If you'd like me to explain why they come after you, it's because, well, I have to get there on this whiteboard first. First, they try to throw you in jail, and then they throw you in jail, and if that doesn't work, they kill you. And when they kill you, then you are a martyr. But you're a martyr and you're gone." And they say, "We killed the bitch." Yeah, that's pretty good. You see him going and getting out in front of things. And my mind goes to one of two possibilities, and they are total opposites. Either he actually, while still a guy that like I think is cringes as fuck, is being frame for things because people don't like what is being said, that, or he is very guilty and is a master manipulator and is projecting to get on in front of things. I don't have a dog in the fight. I'd like the truth here. What, what, what, what say you, Joe, do you find it? I'm like, you know, used to work in the cam business, you have to get girls to do these lured things. I would say you might be a good manipulator, I don't know. That's just me. Pure spec. Don't murder me, please. Pure spec. Bear point. Let's play this video real quick. And if people want to see, obviously, Tate laying this out in his Dead Man switch, Jack put out a podcast on his channel, Jack Neal. That's three hours and twenty-one minutes of Andrew Tate talking. Here we go. He's like, I'm going to go home and watch it. Too many hours. All right, go ahead. Let me clear up this news. You're seeing on the timeline. The British State has accused the British. They said 15 years ago, I did something I wasn't supposed to do and I'm a criminal, but they won't tell me who against They won't tell me where it happened. They won't tell me when it happened They just said 15 years ago you did a crime and I said, okay against you. We're not telling you in case you tweet it Tweet it. What are you talking about? Tell me who I committed this crime against so I can defend myself No, we're not gonna let you defend yourself You're accused of a crime you're charged with a crime. We won't tell you who against And I said well then how do I put defense together and they said well if you come to England We'll tell you I said sure I'll come to England No problem all I want to know is can you guarantee I will not be remanded in custody They said no, we're not gonna be there to you that you come to England There's a strong chance you're gonna go to Belmarsh remanded in custody for years free trial And I'm like so you are accusing me of a crime you've issued a warrant You won't tell me who the crime was committed against if they even exist because they don't these are made up victims Completely made up. They have people hiding behind And an imitate attacking me demanding millions of euros Millions of dollars for things that happened in 2009 Nobody's telling me what these things are nobody's telling me who these people are nobody's telling me when they happened where they happened Nothing and they're saying if I go to jail, they'll tell me but I have to fly to England and put myself in jail And I know you're wondering how come when Britain As it collapses and doesn't give a fuck about grooming gangs doesn't give a fuck about the stabbing Doesn't care about the drugs on the street doesn't care about any of the real crime How come they keep talking about Andrew tape that's because I highlight the problems with the country They don't want to fix the problems. They want to give her to me for talking about the problems So why do I get to travel the world so freely why have I been to 25 countries this year? Because when I land in Hong Kong and the British government Call the authorities and say we need Andrew tape we have a warrant the authorities say Well, what's the warrant for and who's it against and the British state says oh, we don't want to tell you who the victims are The victims don't exist. So no country will expedite me So I'm traveling the world completely free No country respects England anymore. Nobody's sending me to them. I'm living as a free man They keep putting on the BBC that they want to get hold of me And I'm saying tell me who my accuser is and I'll come talk to you And they're like no because they've completely made it up They've made it up to slander me in the media over and over and over again Their intention is to just lie about me lie about charges lie about victims lie lie lie so that I don't support report Or I don't support Farage First of all, I need a side profile video is someone like on the beach being like you I think it is your taste like talking influencers in the wild Dude that must get so fucking exhausted like being in that entourage and just having to sit in a living room Well, he has a hookah just fucking yelling like that. I Yeah, it's it's a lot. What I'll say is whether it's all true or all lies He definitely knew it was cooking about a minute in and I don't think he stuttered once there the got the guy is Whether you hate him or love him That is what has gotten him to the point to where he can even argue against awful charges like this and some people will Be like yeah. No, I think I think he is for him like he is fucking he's got a lot of charisma the problem is He says a lot of shit and he's done a lot of shit over the years that again optics don't look good So that then when you're accused of stuff like this people are like like deep says like well He's doing a webcam business for a long time. He's Braying about fucking women all the time. Well, he was talking about women shouldn't drive and shit like that You know you you can put stuff like this together and create a story such that if in fact these charges aren't true Is he alleges? They're not Someone can make a case and say this guy and people go. Oh, yeah, I mean, I would believe that guy did that And it gets you that point and again these guys were running or we called him out on it a month ago They were running around fucking hanging out with Palo's ampoli in recent months like what the fuck are you doing? And by the way Palo's ampoli who I think is already distancing himself from them Trump juniors distancing himself from them Alina Haba who used to joke about having their back to their face and shit on On camera is distancing herself from them. Trump's old attorney, you know all these people are distancing themselves He was they were party with Palo's ampoli in Washington DC like three days ago Palo need some tips. You know that. Hey Palo. What do we do? We need some tips on some tips. How do we get off it? The crime in that world Is not whether you're guilty the crime is whether you got caught and actually to take it a step farther The crime is whether you got caught and you actually let them arrest you. Yeah, that's that's that's the sad state of affairs here So we're even aren't going to continue to look at like the actual full blown details of this case I take obviously I don't care give fuck whose charge with this kind of stuff You're seeing the show we take this stuff really seriously. I want to see what this is. I would love to talk with Jack about You know, I'm sure a lot of that will be off record to be fair because that's just how it is about what the context of that was for Him to get that interview in May and obviously I should probably review a lot of that tape too and see what the fuck Andrew Tate said but messy As many things seem to be so I'm talking soccer son. I ain't talking soccer either and like look if they're actually guilty Fryum like I mean you see the charges if they're not it's weird and you know, it's like why you know, why is the government always doing weird things if that's the case I don't know. It's been a very long day very long week everyone will be a little more rested. Hopefully next week to be sure Right now we Yeah, I can't I can't talk about that one. We got a buffer day though next week now because of some scheduling So you know what we will come in. We do have a buffer day, but there's a podcast that I think is happening that I haven't talked about Should be very interesting and that would be before before we record An episode of this next week. So we'll be coming fresh off that if it happens. We'll see I did I did talk to that individual yesterday. So maybe it'll happen But good stuff comment. Thank you as always for supporting hit that subscribe button if you have not already like the video I appreciate all you guys and That said give it a thought get back to me. Peace. Nice. What's up guys? 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