#447 - NASA Study Confirms "Predatory" Plasma Beings & Von Braun's Alien Warning | Jay Anderson

I think the first thing I ever saw that you did was that Bobby Ray Enman podcast, which was totally bananas, like, you know, like I said earlier, like it was fighting for his life when you started asking him about the whole UFO topic and, you know, that guy was like former CIA deputy director NSA, you know, he had every single, like, there's a few different accolades you could possibly think of, yeah, it was a, yeah, he was a weird guy to interview mainly just because, you know, underneath the actual interview, you know, at least you have a very strong suspicion that this guy could give you a lot of information if he wanted to. And the way it came about, like I was explaining to you, it was very synchronicistic, you know, the kind of like I took explain to people, Admiral Bobby Ray Enman, you know, very high ranking, you know, in his nineties, but he directed, like you said CIA, DIA, the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office, he was a director at SAIC, the Science Applications International Corporation, which is another one of those kind of black project at Jason, you know, think tanks and contractors for the US government. So he's definitely, like, one of the tip of the spear guys, especially because of his age, he's situated in the legacy world, right? You know, through the Cold War, all of the time where we think that the secrecy really started to concretize around exotic energy and technology and the UFO subject. And this is guy called Bob Exler, who knew him. He was a NASA mission specialist and he knew Bob Bobby Ray Enman. And he had many phone conversations with Bobby. And there's one that was recorded. I think it was like in the 70s or the 80s that he actually recorded the phone call. It's on YouTube, I'm missing the documentary years back. And he literally says on the phone to Bobby Ray Enman, do you think that the recovered vehicles would ever be made available for technical research outside of the military circles? And Bobby Ray Enman says to Bob Exler, 10 years ago, I would have said no. But as time is beginning to evolve and people are becoming more open on it, it's a possibility. So that, to me, is a pretty, you know, damning statement about having exotic, potentially non-human technology being studied by the military. So I brought that up with Admiral Bobby Ray Enman, we did our interview. And, you know, it's interesting from the body language perspective. He was very relaxed throughout the entirety of the interview. You know, we're talking geopolitics and things that within his wheelhouse and he was very relaxed. And, you know, speaking about his perspective on the current state of things geopolitically. And then we get into the UFO subject. And, you know, I bring up Bob Exler. And immediately this guy is suddenly tightening his whole body up and he starts going, no, no, no, there were no UFOs, absolutely no UFOs. And he starts kind of going down a spiel, which we've heard before about how a lot of this was just classified, you know, platforms like the SR-71. And, you know, kind of going down that, oh, it was just Area 51 surveillance platforms. Right. People are misidentifying. A lot of environments by, oh, Steve. Yeah, yeah. Because it's good. There's quite a few accolades. You said something. He said something or you said something from the interview to Bobby Ray. And, and you said something like there was a guy from Area 51 who said like, if our technology got into the hands of civilians, we would be able to traverse the gallot code or something like that. And he was like, oh, they're talking about the SR-71. Well, you get that. So that was, that was a, a different guy. That was in a relationship to the flux liner, the ARV flux liner. So that was a separate story. Like, I, I pressed Admiral Bobby Rayman on Bob Exler because Bob Exler obviously recorded him and was saying, you know, recovered vehicles, reverse engineering. And there's even a news, a news clip. I think he was on the UK news. Yeah, this is the clip that I kind of found initially. There's been circulating around the UFO community for a while. But he also went on like, I think-- Find the bio for Barry Rayman's to-- Yeah, find the bio. He does say it in this. He does actually say it in this, in this video. But Bob Exler went on like the British news at one point. And he was literally, the woman said to him like, but don't you think it could be misidentifications or, you know, helicopters or you have, you know, some of that. And he was like, well, Admiral Bobby Rayman convinced me that these were alien vehicles. And that's good enough for me. So there's like multiple points where this guy reaffirms. This is what the guy was actually saying to him. You know, I say-- And when you talk to him, he could, he denied that there were any, he's like, no, I don't believe the UFOs. There's no UFO vehicles anywhere. No UFOs. He said, he said Area 51 Roswell was some sort of a balloon detector. Yeah. He went into the classic kind of weather balloon Roswell SR 71 misidentification. Like, that's all that all of this is. But he also, and I told you before he reiterated multiple times during the podcast, I have high confidence that there is no, and he emphasized this, I have high confidence that there is no living life in our galaxy. And he said that like three or four times. And a few people picked up on this like, how could someone say, how would anyone, even if they're like the highest level intel guy in the world, make the statement about the entire galaxy being completely, you know, bereft of life. It doesn't make any sense. But I've wondered about what he was really trying to say there, because he did say to me privately that as much as I feel like I didn't give you what you wanted, I want you to pay very close attention to what I had to say. And this guy again, tip of the spear intelligence, the shadows working with kind of like cloak and dagger language, you have to really read between the lines with these guys and then read between those lines again, right? So there's something there, maybe that he's trying to hint at us. But, you know, I don't know what to, you know, trust or what to think or feel. But he definitely tightened up once we got onto Bob Exler. And I don't think he was expecting me to know about that particular part of his history and it stomped him. You could tell, you know, I don't feel like it's about that comment that a guy with those kind of credentials is going to want to do a podcast for somebody. No, no, I was really surprised that he did. What's his bio, Steve? You got it? Yeah. Is there like a bullet point, a bullet list of all the shit that he was a part of? To be fair, that video that you had does actually kind of say all the things that he did. Does it really? Yeah. It's pretty concise as well. It's only like a couple of minutes. Okay. Let's just watch the video. Yeah. What part of the video shows? Yeah, think about here. Right about there. Yeah, just go sleep. Yeah, we go. It's about there. There you go. Okay. He was director of both naval intelligence and the national authority agency, as well as deputy director of the defense intelligence agency and the CIA. In a telephone conversation with bombets like in 1989, he referred to recovered vehicles becoming available. Wasn't he also part of some bank, some like big bank? Yeah, federal reserve. He's part of the federal reserve. Pretty sure. The recovered vehicles would ever be become available for technological research outside of the military sources. I can't honestly tell you the answer would have been no. Whether it's time to devolve, they're beginning to become more open on it. It's a possibility. It seems like you're suggesting here that you are. Oh, this guy stole my video. It's my interview. I think it's face-to-pick. Hi. Hi. Hi. Let me see the description on this video. You didn't give me credit, bro. He's got you all up in the video, though. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a compilation. It's a compilation of Oh, it's one of you and Jesse as well. A compilation of stuff I did without telling anyone that I did it. That's funny. Appreciate it. All right. Let him get some views. 374 views. You know, it's funny. People like him that old into their 90s, you wonder, are they going to give us, are they going to let loose right before they go, just to come clean with God or whatever they believe? And, you know, Annie Jacobson told me, which is on podcast last time, that these dudes have these things called a MINDERS, which are like FBI babysitters. Oh, dude. The guy is close to death. The guy that I told you who's my friend who was subordinate to him in the U.S. Navy, who was the point of contact between me and Admiral Bobby Rayanman. He goes through his mind. Like, confirmed 100%. Like, the guy has someone, you know, taken care of him forever. The guy's 90 something and, you know, someone has an aide on a guy that's on payroll that is supposed to babysit them to make sure they don't spill the beans on anything. Probably who knows why. That's going to be it. Yeah, probably, right? But yeah, I mean, like, the guy is probably in his, I'd say, probably about 94 now. I feel like if he was going to come out, it probably would have done it. Maybe he has something in his end of life. Like, actually, upon his death, there'll be a release of information. Or maybe, you know, it's hard to know. Like, someone like this, he's so withheld with what he knows. And he's been in so many different positions of influence within the architecture of the U.S. intelligence community on subjects and in areas that would focus in on something like UFOs when it came up. Yeah. And the fact that he was, you know, obviously named by Bob Axler as the main point of evidence for him that the alien vehicles are actually being recovered and retrieved and reverse engineered. I think that it's pretty likely that this guy is one of the big dudes. In fact, my friend thinks that he's, you know, within if it exists the majestic, original majestic collection, you know, as a point of authority within it, which would be likely whether he comes out on his deathbird or whether he comes out, you know, they fucking as soon as he's tried to do that. That, that mind is going to be honest. What do I mean, man? Like, even I'm just a bit like, you know, of course, like, just creepy speaking to people like that, because then you're suddenly, like, within the connective network of, I know. Keep an eye on Jay. You know what I mean? It's just like, uh, it gives you a bit of a shiver sometimes. like I prefer going to like the pyramids and places in Peru and kind of shaking off the intelligence guys that I've been interacting with for years, but I still like to cover this object and talk about these things. But yeah, after a while, like, you know, dipping your toes into this world can be a bit unnerving. Do you know what's his name? This gentleman that we had in the podcast who was telling us about, god damn it, why am I forgetting his name? My memory is so short. Bob, the UFO guy? Oh, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob Wires. I'm familiar with Bob McGuire. Science Bob. Science Bob. I loved him. He was a super nice guy and he was on here and he was telling me that the people who get to his level of secrets, who get like told those, that level of secrets, or let into those programs like at the NSA or the CIA or like whatever kind of black projects are going on, they're made to sign this crazy NDA that says, you're signing away your right to basically exist after we show you this stuff. And you're basically giving them, you're giving the country the legal authority to get rid of you or you're going to have to walk away from your public life if anything ever happens. And he was saying that's what he thinks happened with the missing scientists. That one general that we're missing. General McCastlin. McCastlin, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I can believe that I take everything that Bob says with a pinch of salt because he's just part of the Intel network and part of the kind of, you know, groups within Uofology that I've fallen out of trust with. So, oh, right. Well, he's he navigates through the whole, you know, TTSA network and very kind of quickly place himself within that. And I kind of take exception to the fact that he always does seem to have some form of internal story when something goes viral, like Admiral Wilson documents or the triangular vehicle that came out of the ocean that pilots apparently saw that we were all being told would see the video footage off. I think like two, three years ago and never saw the video footage of. And when that happened, he suddenly had something to say about, you know, oh, I was aware of this internally. And then the Admiral Wilson documents all something came across my desk and I just get suspicious of people that always seem to have a claim to fame around a viral story, but never bring receipts to confirm that they were actually involved. So, you know, I see that pattern a lot within the UFO community, especially with the Intel guys. So I just, you know, maybe he's telling the truth, but I just pinch a soul, everything these days. Yeah. You've made me at my most cynical point. That's why you just got to free from the whole thing. Yeah, you just dive in for a little break up for a few minutes, and then pull back out. If you stay immersed with it, it's more fun that way. It is. It's way more fun. You do. You have to take a break from it and just kind of like, okay, like, you know, let's not get too sucked down into the black hole of all of this chaos, but, you know, there's something there. UFOs are real, whatever they are. 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What was the experience you had that got you into this? Well, I had a series of experiences that were connected to I guess, what Stephen Greer would call CE5. So I was not involved in the UFO subject around 2018, 2017, like I was aware of like the New York Times post coming out and the Navy pilots and the tick-tock and I was like, wow, that's like crazy. But I wasn't really involved in it. But there was a series of circumstances, you know, it's quite a long story. But before I was getting involved in any of this, I was a bit lost and just kind of a young man coming out of college and just trying to find my way in the world, you know, having dramas and full hours with friends and things happening where I was just kind of like, I don't know what direction I want to go in in life. And I've always been a very curious person. And so I've, you know, kind of looked at the spiritual side of things and the scientific side of things as I've gone through life and tried to make sense of it. And so when I was in a pretty weird state of mind, like kind of depressed and not really knowing where to go in life, I actually was sitting on my bed one day and I just kind of set out loud to the universe. Like give me something that makes sense with all of the things that I've been researching because at this point, not publicly, but privately diving down rabbit holes in philosophy and quantum mechanics and, you know, all at layman level. I'm not impressive in that sense. But just getting a sense of things that, to me, were confirming the way the reality seemed to be. But I wasn't quite sure where I was trying to take my own research and my own kind of perspective on life. And so I was feeling a bit lost. And I just kind of set out loud to the universe. Like give me something tangible and real that confirms these weird avenues of research, like, you know, non-local consciousness and universal mind. And things that I do resonate with, but I genuinely feel like I need more proof. And like, you know, give me something real. Give me something that actually like demonstrates that these things are real. And then about a week later, my friend was like, dude, you know, you've got to watch this documentary. I just checked out and I was like, all right, what is it? He said, it's unacknowledged by this guy called Doctor Stephen Greer. So this was my first introduction. Never heard a Greer. Didn't really research UFOs. Was aware of the tick-tax stuff. But this is like, you know, the first kind of foot in the door. So we watched that documentary. Really good. He's got like, you know, missile launch offices on there and like, you know, some serious intel dudes. And if it's your first introduction, it kind of drives home the seriousness of it. Like, wow, okay, there's like, you know, actual people within government taking this really seriously. But then near the end of that documentary, he brings in this whole idea of CE5, like this idea that you can consciously through meditative practice and for kind of expanding your mind, make requests to the universe or, you know, as crazy as that sounds, project your intentions out into the universe and have a response from some form of intelligence. Now, Greer would go down the path of kind of saying everything that you're engaging with at that point is a peaceful, advanced civilization. I wouldn't go as far as to say that. And I never used Stephen Greer's very specific method of CE5. But he planted the seed because it was, you know, immediately when he said about this practice, I was thinking about being on my bed week prior, saying I need some form of evidence, right? And now here's a guy saying, hey, you want evidence? Go out into your garden and do this and you'll get evidence. Right. So it's a very strange, kind of subcategory of the UFO community, the whole contact community. And I roll my eyes at a lot of it because I think there's a language problem. You know, a lot of people see this as just like woo, woo, spiritual, magical, nonsensical, fantastical, not real. And I get that. I actually would side with the skeptics more than the experiences, even though I'm an experienced, because I agree that we have to talk about it in a way that makes sense to our modern way of understanding things, and not just rely on platitudes and spiritual language. We have to try and drill down into what is actually going on. So I went out into my garden, like basically after hearing that, I was like, okay, I'm going to try that then. So I went out into my garden and literally I'm not a meditative practitioner. I've never done any sort of disciplined meditative practice. All I did was breathing through the nose, breathe out through the mouth, calm my mind down. And once I felt calm enough, I started to very clearly model my thoughts around the intention that I wanted to see something, that I wanted something to respond to me on the same level that I'm reaching out on, which is a peaceful communication. I want to, you know, have a peaceful contact or peaceful interaction. If you're aware of me, if you can hear this, if you can sense it, I'm ready, you know, You know, this kind of just. over and over again just putting out these types of thoughts and in my mind imagining that they were in some way emanating from my body. After a while of doing that kind of breathing in, breathing out, cycling through these thoughts, imagining that you're projecting it from you, you genuinely do get some physiological effects like a bit of tingling and energetic feeling that, you know, you're actually locking into something to a certain extent. And it started off very lightly. So I've always loved looking at the night sky, you know, sadly. Yeah, of course satellites and you know, stars and planets. And I'd love to just look, you know, line down looking up at the night sky. So I know what it looks like. I know what satellites look like. I've seen weird things happen that can be explained. But what happened first of all was I would start to see a really large influx of what it looked like satellites, like white little dots floating through the sky, but a really large volume of them like 20, 25, 30 coming from different sides of the sky within the space of about five minutes, just like a really busy sky. It's just like, okay, that's weird. They look like satellites. So I'm not going to lose my mind. But that's weird. Next night go out again, you know, seeing another increase in these white wolves coming around. These satellite looking objects. Third night go out again. Same type of thing. But now suddenly, some of them as they're coming across will glow really brightly. Flash and then receive back down again. And it seemed to happen in alignment with my thoughts. And as I would kind of see this and kind of send another thought, it would flash again. Now, I know what an iridium flare is. And you can get satellites that catch the sunlight. And it will flash. And you can get this kind of flash. Is it trans? That's sort of cut on an iridium flare. An iridium flare. Because it comes from iridium satellites. These other satellites we have now don't have the same kind of reflectivity, but the iridium satellites would hatch. It was called an iridium flare or an iridium glare. So these are like old satellites? Yeah, like old school satellites. Here you go. So people would actually, you know, people will go out and they will know the exact time of the transit and trajectory to catch this rare flash, this rare, awesome flashing, a nice guy. I was seeing these things flashing like sequentially like like 20 times as they came across the sky. And not just one of them, but you know, three or four or five would come over in the space of 10, 20 minutes. And each one of them would do a glow and a flash. And it would not be like regular and ordered, but it seemed to happen in alignment with me thinking thoughts. So that was like one step up. First, it was a large influx of satellites. Now these satellites are doing things that I've never seen satellites do. Then it started to get a little weirder. So I was sitting in my room and I got a strong sense that I should go downstairs. It was nighttime. I just got a strong sense, you should go out and do the whole practice thing. You should go right now. And so I went down into my downstairs, out of my kitchen door, which leads into my back garden. And the moment I come out of my kitchen door and look up, I see this incredibly bright. Like I can't even really describe it properly. It was like a comet firework, this huge comet type thing with glittery silver tail coming off like a child's comet, like a child's comet from a book just came right over the sky directly above my head. Yeah. So weird things started happening. But it was in August of 2019 that I had three experiences, sorry, four experiences. Don't go crazy people. I am telling the truth. I've told this story a million times, four experiences with orange orbs of light. And these were the ones that really changed me. This was where I actually went, okay, I think I have to do something. And that was take a camera, put it into a forest, want a tree branch and kind of say, hey, world, like I'm Jay and I've had these experiences. That's where it started. So in 2019, August after probably about, I want to say a month of going out and seeing flashes and strange stuff in the sky, I am doing the same thing in my garden looking up at the night sky. And what I first see is I'm panning around and it's a crystal clear black night sky with the stars out. And I'm standing at the back of, sorry, if I'm going a bit too far away from the mic, I can get a bit Italian with my gestures. I just started moving around all over the place. So I'm standing at the back of my garden looking towards my house, like at the back of the path. And I'm looking around the night sky. And there's a cloud that's coming across the night sky. And I do a bit of a double take. I look at it, I look back and then I come back and I focus on it. And when I look at it properly, I realize that this dark cloud, which is if I'm here and this is my house, this cloud is coming in this direction. So eventually it's going to come past my house and continue on in this way. And I'm back here. But when I looked at the cloud properly, it had this weird, the only way I've been able to describe it is like a thin overlay of TV static. There was like a shimmer, like a weird shimmer to it, energized or you know, agitated in some way. Like particles, very weird. So obviously I see that and I just lock on to this cloud. What is that? Yeah. It's coming this way. Like I said, so like if I'm here and this is my house, it's going to literally go past my house. It gets in alignment with my house and me on the path. Danny, I kid you not, man, it did this right angle turn. Like it literally went and started heading towards me in the sky. Like high up in the sky, but it's now directly in alignment with me. Oh my god. And if it doesn't change its direction, it's going to come directly above my head. So I'm watching this thing and I'm not terrified, but I'm completely stunned. Like that right angle turn was so jarring that I was just kind of like my heart did skip a beat when I saw it. Like it's a abrupt change. And all I could do was really stare at it and I was just watching as it got closer and closer to my head. It got directly above my head. And I said, I'm pretty sure I said the same thing at the exact same time on Joe Rogan, but it feels like something to reiterate is something Terence McKenna said about UFO experiences where he said, if you tell the unvarnished truth, people will just take you for a fool. And it is really true. Because everything about a full UFO experience is just bizarre. And I don't expect people to believe it. But this cloud came above my head. And as it was directly above my head, it sucked into itself. Like there was a vacuum and essential point. It just went into it into itself. And as it did this, it revealed what was actually within this cloud, which was a triangle formation of about 25, 30 orange orbs of light in a perfect triangle formation. It didn't stop. So this happened, revealed this triangle and it kept going this way. So I had to cram on it around and look at it as it went off into the distance. And as I was looking at it, I could observe that some of these balls of light were shifting position in this formation. So it wasn't a vehicle. It was a squadron of orbs, like a whole squadron of orbs, like hiding inside an energized pseudo cloud that they then collapsed right above my head as a triangle formation just emerges from it completely true. And that was the first experience I had with these orbs of light. How long did the triangle stay above your head? It didn't like loiter. So it literally just it happened and it kept moving. So it probably stayed in my line of sight as I turned around for about nine seconds as it moved off into this guy and became too hard to perceive. But yeah, like directly above my head, this reveal shocked. It was about 10, 30 a night. First person I called up was my mom to be like, you won't believe what happened. She was having a meal with my stepdad and I sounded insane. You know, my family took a little bit of time for them to really come around to the idea that this was true. My dad thought I'd had like a mental breakdown. And I get it because of the time this was such a confirmatory series of experiences for me that I did actually become to an extent a bit of a zealot. Like, you know, just to an extent, I was like, this is just real. It's about consciousness. It's about connecting with the wider, you know, system of intelligence in the universe. And I think for my family, it seemed like a real sudden abrupt. Like, what's happening with him? But for me, it was like joined a call. Yeah, for real, right? 100%, like that's that's the vibe. And you know, for me, it was like a revelatory experience. And then obviously I had like three other experiences, including one where they came down very low and hovered above the roof of my house, three of these orange orbs. So that's kind of the most impressive experience. I think I mean, the triangles just mind blowing. But the other two times they flew by in two different formations. So again, in my back garden, and it's all happened within the space of a month. So I was looking, you know, out of the nice guy. And I just saw like in my peripheral. And they always came from the left hand side. I'm not really sure why, but just observation. They always seem to come from the left hand side. I just saw like this flash of orange light in my peripheral looked up and there was like a W formation of them with a couple trailing off of the back. And they just came and transit it across the sky, like in about six, seven seconds. That was it. That's all it. All they did. Then I saw him again in like a V formation with a couple of them trailing off of the back. So a W and a V and a triangle, which are all kind of similar geometric patterns. We think about it. So it's like, I don't know if that's something to read into at all. But the third experience out of the four because the fourth was like the V formation. So it's like, first one was this triangle reveal above my head. Second was a W formation. Third was weird. Fourth was this V formation. So the third one back of my garden, looking up at the sky, see a series of orange orbs. These three orange orbs come flying across the sky. And they stopped directly, like literally come like this and stop directly above my property. So I'm looking up at these three lights. And I realize that they're kind of moving around each other. And it takes me a bit of time to see that they're actually descending down. And as I'm watching them, these orbs are kind of rotating like this around each other in a very hypnotic way. Like this very smooth motion coming down like this, bro, they literally stop like three feet above the roof of my house. Three orbs of light, more like circular than spherical. They didn't even look three-dimensional. They look two-dimensional. The only way that I've described it is a camera effect called bokeh or bokeh, you know that. So for people who don't know, it's very typical in films. You'll see it when a camera out focuses on like a highway and the car lights just become circles of light, red circles, white circles. That's exactly what it looks like. So they literally looked like if you see that black one in the middle, that's quite good. Whereas like loads of little orbs, like loads of little orange orbs. Yeah. Yeah, like they looked like they look out of focus like that. Not out of focus, but slightly ghostly, slightly transparent. Right. They were circular instead of spherical, slightly transparent ghostly orange lights that just came down from this guy and hovered. So they were doing this rotation. They come down and then as they get to where they stop, they just go, they could just pause like really abrupt stop. And they were hovering above my house for like six, seven seconds, maybe less. Then they started this rotation again and they went over to my neighbor's garden, like it's just me outside. I don't know if my neighbors would have seen them if they had come outside. Maybe they wouldn't have, you know, I thought about the whole psychic projection, like, you know, manifestation of your own inner energy, like possible, maybe it was only me that could perceive it. But they, they went over like this and they froze over my neighbor's fence for like another five seconds. And then they unfroze and they started rotating and they went up into the sky and up and up and up until I couldn't see them anymore. I haven't seen them since. And, you know, I kind of kicked myself because you know, you're, you're out there in your garden trying to be this ambassador to the universe. Oh, you know, like protecting, like, then they come and you just become an idiot. Just a dumb monkey, just staring at him, like, I had no thoughts in my head. I had no peaceful message, no information to convey. They just came down, saw me and I was just like, looking at him, like, you know what I mean? It's like, well, I was a waste of time, you know, for them, not for me. For me, it changed everything about my entire perspective of universe and consciousness. But, you know, that's great. That's another thing. It was like a domino effect of realizations that came from that. So, okay, I'm thinking thoughts and I'm imagining that I am projecting these thoughts out into the universe. My thoughts are about a communication, an invitation, an attempt to have some form of interaction, an interaction occurred. So an interaction occurred externally from my body, from internal thoughts. So that means that my internal thoughts can go externally out into the universe and something can receive that. That means that consciousness is non-local. That means that when I die, my consciousness continues on. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, because everything that happened is basically a confirmation of consciousness operating non-locally, quantum communication across, you know, infinite distances. At least that's what I think, otherwise, you know, maybe, like I said, it could be a psychic projection. The Buddhists call it a Tulpa, you know, a manifestation of your own inner energy, your own inner psyche projected out into the external world. And if that's the case, then I was just talking to myself. But then again, if we're in the mind of God, what's the difference? Right. Right. So, you know, lots of realizations. Yeah. Me and Steve saw something similar to that. I don't know if you've ever seen the video, but we, this dude, Chris Bledso, took me to Steve out to the beach when he came here a couple of years ago. Probably three years ago now. Okay. And him and his daughter, Emily, we went out to the beach and he said he could conjure these orbs like, let me see it. Steve, bring your camera and Steve brought his camera and we were sat in the beach for a shit. You know, two hours while he was like praying to Jesus in the sky trying to get this thing to come. And nothing was happening. And at the very end, like two hours in, they got this orb to appear off the fricking off the horizon of the ocean. And there was planes flying in and out, like through the air, like landing in on Tampa from the Gulf or whatever. And they all had navigation lights on them, right? And it was pretty obvious what the planes were. This thing was definitely not a plane. I don't know what it could have been. Actually, somebody, um, somebody made a good point recently. The last person we showed this to, um, said it could have been. They said it was a boat, some sort of a boat or something, which is possible. It could have been a boat. It's possible. The thing that lifted off the horizon, but what about the one that appeared in the air? Yeah. Hundreds of feet above that and also another caveat to this, which I forgot through time is this is not filmed on a normal camera. This is filmed on this thing called a psionic camera, which is like a low light. My bullshit, Mia, just waiting for you. Right. Right. It's just a really camera, bro. So it's just a, it's just that the sensors, the gain of the sensor has been pushed incredibly high. And, and it's able to resolve a little bit better. Yeah. Okay. So you can sensitive to light is like through the roof. Right. So they should, they should rebrand the name. Still though. This is crazy. I've never seen anything like this. Yeah. So this is the, let me, let me set it up for you. So all of this up here, this is night sky, this is a star or a plane, you're going to see the planes over here. And this black line is the horizon. This is the ocean. So we're seeing like, I don't know, four or five miles out. And then this is the orb that appears beyond the horizon. And then there's another one that pops up after that. So there's one more time. That's a plane up left. Yeah, you can tell. There's something right on the water, right on the water. Thank you. Thank you. That's what we're looking for. If you could flash for us. I remember saying, they talked to it. No, that's like dude, I was saying the same stuff like in my garden, you know. Right there. Watch this above it. It's still in the camera. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I see it. No, that's, that's a really good one. That's interesting. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Darni, right there. That's what I'm talking about. So I was able to see it. I was able to see it. I was right there. So she was using the psionic camera. I was able to see that with just my own eyes. Yeah, me too. 'Cause you could hear me. Yeah, you see that's legit. It's legit. I don't know what the fuck that was. You know, people will know that I've been critical of Chris Bletsau because I do think that he's had a whole bunch of the intel community to swarm in on him. Yeah. And really, like, you know, builds him up to think too deeply of himself to be honest, you know, but he is successfully doing what thousands of other people are doing all over the planet. Like, it's not, you know, I think that-- Dude, his story is fucking fascinating. It is. It is depressing. Yeah. His life story is tragic, you know, and, you know, I think, I think, I think he's genuine, but I agree with you. He has been, he's had all these spooky people swarm in on his and hijack. He's narrative. Yeah. And reinforce others, you know, in his mind. And I just think you have to be careful of falling into any particular ideology. I mean, of course, he's a Christian, so he's going to take it from that Christian perspective and pray to Jesus for reciting. I didn't have to pray to Jesus for reciting, and I'm sure if someone wanted to pray to Buddha for reciting, they'd get the same because what I think it is is about human belief. It's your personal belief in your own ability for something to happen. The cause is it to happen if you want to use the channel of Jesus Christ or the sacred staff that you put in the ground and say, like, this staff is going to help me communicate it will happen because you believe it. And that to me is, like, you know, you take a couple of steps back from any belief system or ideology, and what you're left with is a human being that is actually bio-electrical and energetic in every way that would allow for it to be a quantum communication device. If we truly go deep enough into the human system, which we're now doing through the bleeding edge of biophysics and quantum biophysics, looking at the biology of the human body and how it's capable of producing electromagnetism, piece of electric energy, all sorts of different interactions, including now with, you know, really recent studies, looking at the microtubules, these tiny little elements within the neurons and how they interact because they're so tiny with quantum scale energies, which is now becoming like a point of contention with the whole generator receiver argument in consciousness, you know what we are? Generator or receiver, well, the microtubules are giving the scientists a potential empirical anchor into the receiver side of the debate instead of the generator side of the debate. And what's interesting about, you know, realizing that the scientists in 2026 are coming to strange, exotic, non-local, spooky conclusions about consciousness. Like, yeah, what the shamans were saying for thousands of years, they didn't have electron microscopes and they didn't have the type of, you know, methods and systems and understandings that modern science does, but seems like they got there way, way earlier. And that's because intuition dives right down into whatever you want to call the Akashic record or the unified field of quantum information, whatever you want to call that bubbling soup of stuff that seems to be the basement that, you know, we all arise out of in the material world. Whatever that substructure is made out of, the mystics got into it first. Science is catching up. You know, science is now extrapolating information that goes, oh, okay, yes. So actually, it seems the entire universe is made out of information. Well, that's the same as basically saying that the universe has got the Akashic record and that you can bring your ancestors knowledge back and that you can, you know, divinely communicate with entities. All of this has been said for thousands of years and is now being brought into the bleeding edge of frontier science. So, you know, we're in a really interesting transition point where I think the spirit and the science are kind of starting to entangle together. I mean, who knows where that goes when that really starts to happen, but. - It's gonna get weird, bro. - Yeah, Peter Levento was telling me, he's an interesting guy. - He's a very interesting guy. He was telling me that, I guess I asked him, I was like, you know, one thing about him is just, he's just a historian of all the stuff. He had colds and like the political mechanisms behind all this stuff, you know, going back through the whole Cold War. And you know, I was asking him, I was like, if you were in charge of figuring out what the answer to this whole phenomenon is, like, what would you do? He goes, I would take all the people who've had the most insane experiences, and I would look into their mind. Like, and he was the analogy of taking apart the radio. He goes, I would, there's something unique about their consciousness as a receiver or an antenna, and he was like, I would try to take apart the radio and figure out what it is about those people. And that's exactly what they're doing with Chris Pledso. - Do you know what I think it is? - I think it's got something to do with the flow state. I think it's got something to do with creativity and intuition, which is what Gary Nolan would probably say as well, 'cause he's looking at those areas of the brain that he thinks involve heightened intuition. You know, I think people that are able to straddle two hemispheres of creativity and logic, marry them together instead of being complete. You know, if you're embedded in the logical material, the what can be proven by your senses, then it's gonna be very difficult for you to come to terms with the idea of non-local communication with dimensional entities. You know, if you're completely in the creative, you might have those experiences, but good luck translating that to the wider world because your mind is off in the clouds, but you know, you're up there with the orbs, but you ain't coming back down. - Right, right, right. - Coming back down. If you can have your creativity and your logic and you can intertwine those two, and you can have these experiences because you're very open-minded, and you've got that creativity that allows you to go beyond what is your senses and what is logical, but you have enough intelligence to bring that down and articulate it to people. I think that's what they're most interested in. People that have the ability to actually articulate the bizarre and the paranormal, you know, and not a lot of people can do that. - Yeah, you might be right about that. Yeah, the flow state and, you know, even through doing drugs straight up. And then, you know, the thing about it is those experiences, whether it be like a paranormal experience or an encounter like you had or like a crazy psychedelic trip, they become so meaningful for people. Like that experience was so meaningful for you. You can tell, right? - Yeah. - And like, you know, the caucus. - Any crazy psychedelic experience can become super meaningful for you because you just see whatever, I think that what I personally think is what's happening in like psychedelic trips, whether you do DMT or mushrooms or whatever it is or ayahuasca. Whatever, something's happening and you're seeing like a projection of what's in your inner psyche. Like it's sort of like a placebo effect on steroids. And whatever manifests in that experience just gets imprinted on you and you just extrapolate so much out of that to where it could even be, you could even just be making stuff up at some point, right? It could be just like a placebo effect. And then that just compounds and becomes like, you know, a snowball effect sort of happens. - For sure. - But, I don't know. That doesn't mean that's not to say that there's not something there. - Oh, no. And if it profoundly is something there, I just don't know what it is. - If it profoundly changes your life in a beneficial way, then that is something in of itself, even if you did it to yourself, right? I mean, you know, that's the crazy thing about something like psilocybin, for example, you know, the way in which it can interact with your mind to the point where you come out of that experience and feel like you had 20 years of psychotherapy, self-realization after self-realization, being able to almost take a step back and look at your own mind and your own behaviors, your own actions and objectively, neutrally observe it without judgment and then come to conclusions that you'd never be able to do in a sober mind. You know, that's something incredible about specifically psilocybin, which, you know, again, like the mushrooms to me is fascinating and I've absorbed so much, not psilocybin, I've had a few, but the Terence McKenna, I've absorbed so much of Terence McKenna's work and his, you know, his poetic lectures on this subject. And I think that he's got some really good points about it. And I think that we are looking at perhaps an inner intelligence within nature that we're getting access to, the fact that it rewires your brain in some incredible ways. It's like you're eating the neurological architecture of the planet, you know, and getting something from that that increases and improves your own neurological architecture. You don't need to invoke anything spiritual and external from that. It's like, you know, entanglement between the planetary biome that you're naturally here for and, you know, you're communicating with it. But there are so many different ways of achieving that. And something else at Terence said is, you know, he would never want to have the experiences that he had on DMT or psilocybin in a sober state. He would terrify him to experience this. You know, this, it makes sense to have that happen in these in these realms. Yes. I didn't have psilocybin in my system when I had a cloud disappear above my head and a triangle. So like Terence brother, I've experienced that. And it's weird. You know, you don't have a fallback of like, well, at least I was on DMT. Right. So I know I wasn't though. So what is happening? I also think about that too, you know, like if you're, if you're doing DMT and you're about to hit the DMT pen or if you're doing the raw fucking powder, God bless you, but whatever it is, you know what's about to happen. Yeah. And you're expecting that, you know? So like how much of that is going into this? For sure. I always wonder. Yeah, some injection of bias and expectation, human psychology, you know, the brain is so powerful. Yeah, the placebo effect is fucking nuts, dude. Dude, like, yeah. The placebo effect to me is an amazing thing in science. We've kind of just gone like, yeah, we just proved the law of attraction. Don't worry about it. You know, because your mind over matter, right? Mind over matter. You literally can control what your body does. There's a great example of that. With that dude, what's his name? Wim Hof. Yeah. You ever had Wim Hof on the podcast? No, that's familiar with him. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, the guy can like bring his own adrenaline up at will and can teach people to, you know, control their immune system and their, you know, their automatic parts of their system. Yeah. That's real. It's real. Like 100%. You know, a lot of the stuff that he was doing and he even trained a few people and they put them in hospital and injected them with some form of kind of control virus that would give them fever and none of them got sick. Right. And, you know, so like, you know, we have an incredible amount of control over the mind, which is why I don't dismiss the idea that these orbs could be a psychic projection. However, people have filmed them. Okay, some point. Right. You know, and you're not the only one that's hundreds and hundreds of videos. Good ones as well. Not just crappy fake UFO videos, but ones that are actually really feeling like, yeah, well, I saw that. So I believe that that's a real video. You know, so there's something there. I've also invoked the idea that it could be a form of plasma, form of plasma intelligence. This also seems to be something that, you know, as much as I have my doubts about some of these guys and what they're saying, David Grosh brought up plasmoids in one of the most recent times. He was in DC saying things. He brought up the. Yeah, yeah, he mentioned plasma beings, like plasma intelligences as a potential, you know, in part of the intelligence spectrum we're dealing with. And I agree with him. Like I think that, you know, plasma is an incredibly interesting state of matter. It makes up 99% of the observable universe. It's the fourth state of matter. So you can use solids, gases, liquids, plasma. We don't really get talked about plasma. No, yeah. Forgivably it's a complex topic, but when you've got your solids, gases, and liquids, nail down in school, but they don't mention plasma, which is 99% of the observable universe and is really interesting. It's kind of like. Yeah, why? Why is? Well, I mean, again, you could say it's a very complex topic, which it is, and so it's more for the specializations later in education. But even then, I think that there's enough evidence that plasma is used in exotic science, in energy in different various forms of propulsion, that it could be a classified science quite heavily in the national security side of things. So that's definitely a possible explanation. There's been a few different plasma groups, like the Sapphire Project and a few others that have come up over the years saying, we're bottling the stars, we're going to transmute metals into gold, we can, you know, renewable energy, no problem. Yeah, Sapphire, I think it's S-A-F-F-I-R-E, not pH, pretty sure. S-A-P-P-What? No, S-A-F-F-I-R-E, instead of pH, which is. And what was the goal of that project? To create a exotic vacuum object to plasma, a self-organizing plasma, which they believe could transmute metals and change different. Oh, so it's one F, might be. Sapphire Project, stellar atmospheric function, regulation, experiment, plasma physics, experimental research initiative, originally designed to test the electric sun model associated with the Electric Universe theory. Yeah. Yeah, a hell puts off got involved with this for a minute. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've got some very interesting videos of their lab work within, you know, creating these exotic vacuum objects, was what they call them, EVOs, self-organizing plasmas, and, you know, recording various effects, and making some very bold claims about what it was actually capable of producing in terms of renewable energy and, you know, global applications. But then it kind of fizzled out, kind of went quiet. I don't know if they're still active, but they certainly not, you know, broken any sort of record in science as it stands. But plasma is incredible. And there's some very interesting evidence now that forms of self-organizing plasma, because what plasma can do under certain electromagnetic and, you know, certain energetic environments is organize itself into very complex structures. Complex enough that you can start to invoke the possibility of some form of sentience. If you're looking at the idea that the more sophisticated and more complex a structure can become, the more likely it is for a level of intelligence to start scaling up within that structure. And there are some weird analogues between plasma structures and the structure of your neurological architecture. So there are these weird parallels between that that even NASA has looked at and started going, well, it's possible that we're seeing animalistic types of behavior in swarms of plasma. There was like a huge 25 different institute study. I did a video on it, like maybe like two, three months ago. It was NASA and a whole bunch of other space-based institutes that were looking at self-organized plasma, specifically in relationship to the STS-75 tether incident. Do you know about this? Whether like 19 kilometer tether broke off in space and all these weird orbs died swarming around it in the video. I've heard of this. I'm not super familiar with the details of it. So it's like, I think it was in the 70s, but it was basically like a 19.6 kilometer-long tether. There's electromagnetic tether that they were using to test some electromagnetic studies out in space. On the space shuttle? I think I honestly don't know. Look at that. I don't know the specifics of what they were actually studying. But the tether broke off and it floated out into space. 1996 during the STS-75 mission aboard the space shuttle Columbia. Joy-print between NASA and the Italy Space Station to deploy 20 kilometers conducting tether and spherical satellite to test generating electricity from Earth's magnetic field would happen. Just before reaching full deployment, a breach in the tether's insulation allowed an electrical arc disc charge caused by high voltage plasma to burn through and snap the cable near the top of the deployment boom. It severed the satellite. The severed satellite drifted away into a separate orbit, although it was tracked by radio and the tether experiment ended early collecting about five hours of valuable data. So if you go on to my ex, I actually posted the video like yesterday. So one of the most recent videos that I put up on my ex-projects is project unity. The project unity. Yeah, just because project unity was taken. Damn it. But boom, it should be basically the latest one. There you go. No, not that. Click on it, scroll down. Boom, boom, boom. It's going to be there any second. There we go. So this is the full video. So this is the original video where you see all these weird objects starting to form around the tether. That's the tether. That's 20 kilometers of tether. Yep. Drifting out into space. And all of these weird objects start coalescing around it. Now, this was originally dismissed, and a lot of people will still dismiss this as ice particles that are starting to float around that are being caught as we record video. But this video is very interesting. Now, it's six minutes long, but if you scrub through it, you'll get to a point where someone has added the flight paths. These are the flight paths. So this shows directional changes. If you watch each of these, you will see complete directional changes, brother. Take it back for a second. Just take it back for one second. All right. It's playing. It's just, yeah, hang on a second. Do you just watch it, right? Okay. Look at this one. Just curls around. Whoa. Now, there are so many different instances of these things moving. Look at that one curving. Yeah. Like they do. There's a whole bunch of them, right? And so whoever did this, you got to applaud them because they individually added all of the flight track, flight tracking, you know, for each of these objects. And yeah, they'll show you various instances where they completely stop or they changed, complete direction. Now, they're back to the normal shot, like the normal without the enhancement. That's what it looks like. Yes, it's really hard, it's like, you know, I want to see that curving one again without the enhancement. Oh, whoa. Yeah, seriously, right? It's not even like, yeah, it's not generated. You'll see it. Here we go. And the trajectory. And that one curved down as well below it. Why are they slowing down? There are so many ones. It's almost hard to focus on which one you should look at. But the flight track information really helps. And this is to me such an interesting instance of what is potentially self-organized plasma because the study that the NASA guys did, and you know, these various institutes, so that they like to focus around electromagnetic sources, excess electromagnetic radiation. So they'll be hanging around lightning storms. They said that they will find these orbs in the high ionosphere hanging around lightning storms, acting in swarming behaviors and also predatory behavior. This is in the NASA study. If you've got a territory. Yeah, predatory is in the actual document that they said predatory type of behavior from these like swarming groups of self-organized plasma in the upper ionosphere. And again, they invoke the STS-75 incident as one of these examples. What's the name of this paper? If you've got my YouTube channel, bro, it's not even that far down. Like, we could find it and I link the study, but I can't remember. Oh, it's actually damn it. If you've got my ex. And seriously though, if you go to my ex, go to my replies. Just there. Ignore me telling anyone to go fuck themselves. Which will be there. Keep going down. Keep going down. Keep going down. Someone posted it. Keep going down. Someone did post the actual study. Keep going down. And you'll see my videos come up as like the thumbnail link. So that's not that one. The one below it is actual paper. That's the actual paper. Okay. So if you want to click on that, you'll see the examples that I've been referring to. So these are the various studied, you know, university of Tucson and various different institutes were involved in the study. And we're in the abstract, bro. The abstracts must up to a kilometer in size and behaving similarly to multicellular organisms have been filmed on 10 separate NASA space shuttle missions. And one of those must be the one we just watched over 200 miles above Earth within the atmosphere. These self-illuminating plasmas are attracted to and may feed on electromagnetic radiation. They have different morphologies. Cone, cloud, doughnut, cloud, cloud, doughnut, spherical cylinder, cylindrical. Just thinking about what I experience. Flying towards and descending from the thermosphere into thunderstorms congregating by hundreds and interacting with satellites generating electromagnetic activity approaching the space shuttles. Computerized analysis of flight path trajectories document these plasmas travel at different velocities. Right. That's exactly what we're just watching. Right. Different velocities from different directions and change their angle of trajectory making 45 90 and 180 degree shifts to follow each other. They've been filmed accelerating slowing down stopping congregating engaging and hunter predatory behavior and intersecting plasmas leaving a plasma dust trail in their wake. Similar lifelike behaviors have been demonstrated by plasmas creating experimentally. Plasmas may have been photographed in the 1940s by World War Two pilots identified as food fighters repeatedly observed and filmed by astronauts and military pilots in classified unidentified aerial anomalous phenomena. Plasmas are not biological but may represent a form of pre-life that via the incorporation of elements common in space could result in the synthesis of RNA. Plasmas constitute the four state of matter or attracted to electromagnetic activity. And when observed in the lower atmosphere likely account for many of the UFO UAP settings in the recall. This ship's way more known as a paper. That's freaking bonkers. Who is the person behind this paper? Look up and it's like 25 different fucking institutions. Whoa. This is astronomy. This is a serious don't. Department of biology applied physics. Center for astrophysics. How a study in California, Ireland, Italy, San Diego, Smithsonian. Dude, like this is a serious fucking paper and it is big. Like if you scroll down, you'll just see it. It's like a really quite long paper full of images of the STS-75 orbs. Oh, it's freed. It's free to read. And when was this published? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. 2024. 2024. Two years ago. Yeah. Dude, it's free to read. I've done a video breakdown of it. If anyone wants to watch that, I'm a project unity. Yeah. Yeah. And this is also, you know, I forgot her second name, Beatrice. Billeryl. Yeah. She's talking about this with the Dosty Plasmas. So Dosty Plasmas are basically like complex plasmas because of the different particulates in the vacuum of space, building up. And so the idea is that like, again, like a different type of life through all these complex Dosty little elements and the self-organizational properties of plasma, some form of strange life might be created. And since we're looking at directional changes, predatory light behavior, grouping going down into thunders. See, the problem is we're just trying to fit this thing into our box of how our mind works. Exactly. And we're trying to attach words to it to make sense of it. But in reality, it's probably something that we could never really fully comprehend with our with our little brains. Yeah. No doubt. 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We create a huge amount of radiating electromagnetic energy. So, you know, our heart and our brain create electromagnetic fields that produce. It's about three feet in diameter around your entire body that there's an electromagnetic field. So, mine and yours are in tangles right now. There is a level of energetic interface between our two complementary fields. And so, the idea, at least in my mind, is that when you're getting into these very profound states of meditative consciousness, which again, you know, try and find different ways to look at this if you're rolling your eyes at the woo-woo language of the spiritual, you know, you're biohacking. You're biohacking. You're getting into your own biology for silencing the chatter of your environment, which is constant, especially in the Western world. You know, we're in an uphill battle from day one. It's easy if you're into bets on the mountaintop or you're in the jungle with the ayahuasca. Right. It's hard when you've gone through the Western social propaganda, and the noise, and the adverts, and the flash, flash, flash, and the ADHD, and the anxiety. You know, all of that is taking us away from our natural state. So, our natural state sounds like a fucking superpower. Because for us, it's like so far removed from where we're meant to be. And so, getting into these states is hard, man, like trying to understand a way to explain these states is hard, but getting into like your own mind and your own biology, like Wim Hof, we know we can change these very subtle what we thought were just completely autonomous parts of our biology. We can actually influence that with our consciousness. And so, we're also looking at, again, things like microtubules. Okay, so the microtubules seem to have a way to influence and connect with energetic fluctuations on the quantum level. And we know that the quantum can have superposition and nonlocality. We know an electron that has a pair can be turned in the universe on this side, and then the other one will turn on the other side, right? I actually watched your interview with Stu Hammeroff before I had him on here. I watched George to like prepare for it. Yeah, yeah, that was, I still don't even understand what you're talking about. No, I mean, I'm trying to wrap my head around Orcoa, or orchestrated objective, reduction, virion, like, you know, like, but to the extent that I could explain it, microtubules seem to be communicating with the quantum level of reality. They're inside your mind, which means your mind can communicate with the quantum level of reality. Oh, but that's just automatic. Cool. So, the other things that we thought were automatic that we can biohack and actually do ourselves. So, when you get into these states of very subtle energetic consciousness, very delicate states, I think, there is a very fine thread connecting you with whatever it is you're interacting with. That can be severed so quickly, especially by our chat or a lucky mind. A lot of people said to me, like, why didn't you film these things? Well, for starters, when I first did it, I wasn't thinking about anyone else other than myself and my own personal journey. I wasn't a podcast or a documentary guy. I had no desire or even a thought to film it. This was just me engaging with the universe. Yeah. Then things happened. And yeah, I tried to film it. And I captured a couple of flashes on camera, on a shitty smartphone. All you see is a black sky and a flash of light. Okay, not impressive. You want to see the orbs fly by on information and get that on a camera. So you're there with your camera, trying to think for it, you're breathing, you're getting into that meditative state of conscious. My arms are aching. You're trying to get into that state of conscious. It's everything going to turn up. The mind starts drifting away from the extremely subtle, delicate process of engaging with whatever the fuck we're engaging with in this. And you're suddenly over here in your ego, in your monkey mind, wanting to prove it to the world in some weird kind of justification of what you're trying to do instead of being in the process, right? And it never worked. I never got any extraordinary footage. You know, so if you don't want to believe me, don't believe me, I don't care. I've had these life-changing experiences numb on my own trajectory because of them. I just want to try and find suitable language to explain them to people when they're skeptical because I get it. I completely understand the skepticism more than blind belief. I don't like blind belief. It's just that I've had things happen to me as a relatively logical thinking person that are so illogical that I've had to change my perspective of what's logical, that I've had to expand it. And that's another thing that Terence said about psychedelics is that they expand your perception of reality. They challenge you and they give you an option to expand or retract away from it. I think these are exactly the same. It's a catalyst for your mind. You know, some people might see something in the sky and never talk about it and keep it down and just blight, I didn't see that. But if you choose to actually engage with it, I mean, at least for me, I've discovered a whole community of people. Sure, it's been drama and some craziness. And this is a weird UFO community, but I've had amazing experiences. And I've had a lot of people who've emailed me and said, you know what, you've explained this really well for me. And I've actually gone out and I've had experiences too. And it's like, well, okay, this is good. This is something that I think is a good thing that's happening. And that only happened because I accepted it. So I think that there's like a psychological issue at play of, you know, whether or not you're even ready to have these experiences. And you know, I don't want to sit here and say, oh, they'll only come to you when you're ready, because a lot of people seem to have like, you know, the whole abduction thing. And I don't know where that sits on the spectrum. Is it the same? I don't think it is. Is it the same intelligence that I interacted with? Right. You know, we don't know. And that's the thing. A lot of people have said to me and, you know, I'll get a lot of comments, especially from like the more religious groups. They're like, oh, you're communicating with demons. Right. Good for you, buddy. But, you know, yeah, oh, he sold his soul. Like, oh, it's like, man, I'll see JD Mancer's new book's called Communion 2. Oh, God, is it really? Yeah. And he finally tells me saying that they're angels and demons. Oh, good Lord. Good Lord. Well, I mean, everyone's going to look at it for their own particular lens of ideology and especially theology. If it's extremely embedded within what you think and feel. But, you know, for me, I just, I'm quite adverse to human-made belief systems. And I just don't think that we should give ourselves over entirely to a belief system that seems to be constructed primarily by just old men in ancient times. Right. Like, for me, it's like, ah, humans, I don't really trust them. So, you know, that to me is a different question to spiritual belief, spiritual belief to me. It's deeper, intuitive, ingrained in your own experience of traversing life and paying attention to it. And when you do pay attention to it, life is full of language. Life is full of talking. It's always speaking to us. It's always trying to nudge us in a certain direction. Synchronicities are real, you know. So, I think the paying attention to life can give people a better perspective on that spiritual side of things. The reason I call project unity, project unity is because I do believe that it needs to be a unification between spirit and science. You know, these are just two perceptual sides of the coin. They need to bend over and meet each other. A lot of people say to me, why is it called project unity when you're such an asshole on ex? It's deeper than that. It's bigger than me telling you to go fuck yourself. You know, it's bigger than that. It's about something much larger. It's about understanding that these ideologies and perceptions should actually be entangled together. But I'm still a human being. So, you know, I wake up on the wrong side of the bed and I might just tell you to go fuck yourself. It's just the way it is. We're all human. The other problem with the whole thing is there's just this intertwanglement of people who are. I love the term intertwanglement. It's not real. Right. But I will forever use that now. It sounds good though. into twanglement of people that are probably legitimate, right? Who have had like meaningful experiences or whatever it is, who knows what it could be. And you have people who try to like cover and document and report on stuff like that. You also have people who are just trying to make money on it. For sure. Right. And then you also have a mix of all of all three. You could have someone who's doing all three, like, you know, a blood-so-type person who maybe did have something legitimate happen. Then they figure out, oh, now I can get a lot of attention. Now I can make a lot of money doing it. Now I'm going to keep doing it. So, I'm going to keep trying to do the next thing. And that's what muddies the water. And I think it's perfect for people. If there is some sort of truth to this, this being covered up, it's like the internet is like the perfect way to hide it. But I get super interested when you have people like, for example, in James Fox's documentary where he goes to Brazil, any interviews, all these people that are just like living in a hut and fucking Brazil. And they're just telling him about it. Forage people who have nothing to gain from any of this stuff. That's the shit that really freaks me out. When I hear people that work in the government talk about it, - Okay, I'll just get bored. - Of course. I'm falling asleep. - Again, why should we trust them? - Right. - Why, but the average Joe, like, yeah, like I trust them a lot more. There was actually, I've said this quite a few times, but it's always worth reiterating for anyone who hasn't heard it before. There's a really interesting podcast. I actually can't remember the name of it, it was a German podcast, I believe, where they had these two native Amazonian tribes people on full headdress, like fully tribes people, and they were interviewing them in their native language with a translator, and they asked them about aliens, and wanted to know what the tribal perspective on aliens were, and they were confused by the question, didn't understand what alien meant. What do you mean by alien exactly? Now, if trying to figure out a way of explaining it, and so they thumb through this magazine and showed them like a gray alien, and the tribal chieftain went, "That is muk-n-wabu, muk-n-wabu." And, like, went into a detailed mythos that they have around this being, which they say, and the other one, like, came in, was like, "Yes, yes, very dangerous creature." And they said, "It's a human that became an ant that lives underground, and it can appear in the divine light of Michigan, which I assume is just their version of the divine light of whatever God." So it's a human that became an ant that lives underground, that can appear in the divine light of Michigan, and you have to be very careful with this creature because it can steal your soul, and you need a very good shaman to bring your soul back. And they have almost like, "Yes, very dangerous, muk-n-wabu, muk-n-wabu." How the fuck do they have any sort of direct, like, it was a gray alien, they're like, "Yeah, no, we know that, we know that." You know, where was this tribe from? The Amazon, the Amazon Basin. But it's the same as, like, the Hopi tribe, right? With the ant people, the ant people, you know about that? - Right. - Same kind of story, except this time, the ant people apparently took this tribe underground during times of cataclysm, and then taught them how to regrow society once cataclysm was over. If you look into the Hopi tribe and the ant people, but yeah, the Amazonian tribe. - The concept trace is there. - To be fair, good luck finding, like, a reference on it. Like, this video is like the only thing I could find on, oh, actually, there, we go, light of Nishipan. - Oh, yeah, we got a rule for reference. - The human that became an ant, and the concept trace is back to a viral piece of modern lore and fringe anthropology surrounding Amazonian tribal interactions with the legend non-human intelligences, which has circulated on platforms, like, R-slash aliens on Reddit, and R-slash reincarnation truth. - Really credible examples of information. - The imagery references, but it is a real video. That's the thing. - Specific story, people in the Amazon, near the Peru, Brazilian border, where, show an image of a classic gray alien, instead of seeing a space alien, they recognized it as the Mock and Wabu, an ancient dangerous big ant entity, according to the lore. She's a sprow. - Mosque itself, like the fine light. - And they said that it brings them underground and it's possible for them to ever come to a close. - Yeah, well, you know, so that was the other tribes, the Hopi tribe, which is the Hopi tribe. - The Hopi tribe have the ant people as part of their lore. And the ant people of the Hopi tribe apparently helped them out, like, way back in, you know, beginnings of their historical lore, they took them underground during times of great strife and then taught them how to rebuild civilization, which is such an echoed story across so many different cultures, whether it's Noah or Awanas or all these various, it quets a collateral, like various gods across the world that, you know, bring knowledge back after great cataclysm, but even the tribes had it and they called them the ant people, which is just an interesting kind of, you know, potential analogy towards the Mock and Wabu, you know, ant human hybrid thing. There's apparently going on. And then in Peru, of course, you've got the weird Nascamamis, which there's a lot of controversy and talk about, but, you know, some of them are pretty weird specimens, you know, so who knows if there's a connection between that modern discovery and these tribal laws and beliefs around Nascamamis' all bullshit? - I mean, you know, it's such a, you had the guy on, what's his name? - Darcy. - Darcy, yeah. - Yeah. - Like Darcy Weir. - It's such a contentious point of discussion. And I think that there's like a big smoke screen around it, like there's 100% fakes and there's been ones that were proven to be fake, like chicken bone and paper mache. - Right. - But that one-- - And there was a guy who tried to, he had like, this monkey that got electrocuted and he was saying that it was an alien. - I didn't know about that one. - Oh yeah. - That one's getting my radar. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And this guy, so this guy showed the monkey images to the other guy, Jamie or Jaime. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - And he was trying to promote it as if it was really-- - Yeah, Jaime, see, like this is the thing, it's like, you know, it's almost like the people you associate with and it darkens the whole thing. Like Jaime, I'm not 100% sure. This guy's been involved in some weird stories over the time, so it's kind of like, yeah. All right, put him into the sprinkler's soul, skepticism corner. But then you've got like, you know, a pretty significant team of international scientists over at the Incari Institute and these other places in Peru where they've got the bodies. And it's like, yeah, dude, there's like American scientists, there's Italian scientists, there's a couple of British scientists and of course, Peruvian scientists. And they've done, you know, X-rays and they've got dicom scan files and like quite complex MRIs of these bodies. And, you know, internal structuring and bone tissue and things are in the right place. So there's like discussions around the phalanches and where the things have been attached or reattached. But again, it's like, we might be dealing with a different morphology. And there's no actual evidence of manipulation in the joints, at least from the ones that I've been looking at in the actual institutes that are being scanned and MRI'd and studied. So I mean, it's weird. I think that the issue you have as well as the cartel is like heavily involved in the retrieval of these bodies because a lot of this comes through the wakeros, which are like the grave robbers, which work on behalf of the cartels for the black trade of antiquities. So there's a lot of money flowing through Peru, through grave robbing, stealing things, selling it on the black market. And so a lot of these discoveries come through various wakero channels and that's why it's kind of like, okay, so you know, it can be really trusted then. But the complexity of some of these bodies is ridiculous. I mean, it would be incredibly impressive. And then you see the ones that have proven fake and it's like, well, yeah, fucking of course, man. It's made of like nothing, it's straw and bones. - So I was showing us the hand specifically and he pointed out how the hand had no palm. And what he was saying was they tried to elongate the fingers by basically cutting down. - But there's no proof of cuts, at least to ones I've seen. There's no proof of like actual dislocation. And there's even videos from the Institute, where to scientists, they're speaking in Peruvian, but like, you know, they're literally saying, I can't see any evidence of dislocation of manipulation of the joints. - So I'm skeptical to kind of trust the word of no offense, like an investigative journalist over a series of scientists at the Institute who are saying that there's no actual evidence of manipulation and dislocation. Again, it could just be a drastically different morphology. And what is weird is there's so many different variants. There's like so many different types of body structures going on here that it's either just a complex fake of all of these different body structures or maybe some weird genetic manipulation that was going on at some point. Because you've just got so many different sub variants of the same kind of morphology that's been stretched and shrunk down and the eyes are bigger or the head smaller. And then you got the ones that are almost reptilian or insectoid that they're studying. There's like a whole lot of them. - Dude, there's loads of them. If you go on the Incari Institute, I think it's called INKRI. Pretty sure it's that. Like they should have like photos and stuff like that. Is it the Incari Institute? - It's the Incari Institute reptile bodies? - Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I might be spelt differently to the way I'm thinking. But you know, they've got so many different bodies and some of them are so complex. I just think that there's a bit of a smoke screen being generated around this subject where proven fakes are being put to the forefront and it might be overshadowing something quite real. And Peru is weird. Like, you know, in Peru there is like tapestries and artwork of beings with three fingers. So it's kind of like, all right, there's some level of symbolic connection. And Peru's crazy, in of itself, architecturally. I've been out there to film, make documentaries because it's just got some of the most mind-blowing architecture in the world, even more impressive in some ways than ancient Egypt. - Really? - You know, precision, multi-angled fitting stones that you can't even fit a human hair between made of granite so hard, like these incredibly hard stones all formed together in jigsaw puzzle pieces, pillowing out like they've been softened or somehow squished together. Like really bizarre architecture around Peru. I mean, I did a whole documentary series again, promotion if anyone wants to go check it out. Project Unity, ancient technologies, which is the playlist. And I've got my Egypt and Peru videos where I traveled out to Egypt, traveled out to Peru, filmed all of the strange sites that I could while I was out there. And you know, matched up, pattern matched the similarities between these places. One of the craziest ones, dude, is on the Giza Plateau. I got the three pyramids. So Menkare pyramid still has some of the surviving out-of-casing stones, which are these red granite stone casings, right? - The middle pyramid. - Yeah, I believe it's the middle pyramid. - I've been out there enough time to literally know that. But at the middle one called Kaffra. - You got Kaffra, Kufu and Menkare. - Got it, okay. So Menkare pyramid has got these like red granite out-of-casing stones that are still surviving. Now, they are themselves this quite pillowed out stone work. It's very similar to Peru, but the most interesting signature is the nobs, little stone nobs. Are you familiar with that? It's coming, most people should be, right? So if you could get up, bro, if you could get up Menkare pyramid, do you mean to spell it? You can figure it out. - Yeah, I'm sure you can. - Menkare? - Yeah, Menkare, men. And then it's K-A-U-R-E, Menkare. And then out-of-casing stones, 'cause it's specifically the casing stones we want to look at, right? So like, if you listen, Some good images. Oh, wait, wait, wait, there was one, here, there you go. Yeah, so there's some better ones where you're looking at it front facing. It is crazy how they're pillowy. Hang on a second. Type in knobs because it will give you like the bits where it's focusing like if you're just typing stone knobs, there we go. So there's like those ones there that are coming out. And then there's the one where the family are standing, that's a good one. So you can see up here you got all of these sets of two stone knobs protruding from the bottom of the blocks, right? Now if you go… What's going on here? Right, come you have some smooth ones and then flat ones and then you have the pillowy ones. What's really weird is that these are almost like they're unfinished. So this right hand section is almost like the unfinished casing stones and the left hand section is where they've been smoothed down to a perfect fitting joinery. So these I think were left and they were never finished and they were supposed to be flattened down completely. But you see these two knobs protruding specifically from the bottom of the blocks. Now if you type in 'Cusco City' stone knobs, those ones are way more pronounced. But the question is how are they even on these blocks? So if you go down, so I mean those ones are brilliant because you've got like, you know, that's in the cottage cancher, the sun temple. So here again, there's some good examples. So again, on the bottom, on the bottom, two knobs, right? Coming out of the bottom. Now, the thing is, the knobs are a really big question. I mean, I've taken 4G, 4G documentary videos of all of this stuff if you wanted to look for it, but I should have sent that ahead of time, my back. Sorry. Yeah, but like, either way. So you've got this pattern of two knobs on the bottom coming out of these megalithic blocks. The knobs haven't been properly explained. The mainstream says they're lifting points, but you find them in very strange, like, you know, non-symmetrical points of the stone, too small to be a lifting point in many cases. They're just not universal in their placement. This is a great place. I forgot the name of it, but I've walked down here in Cusco city where you've just got nubs, often nubs, often nubs. But they're always on the bottom, but irregular and shape and size and positioning. So the lifting point is really to me, and not very likely explanation. Yeah. But what's interesting is that mainstream archaeology will say, well, this was made by the Inca. Now the Inca were 450 years ago, 500 years later, right? Their imperial apex as an actual imperial civilization was 90 years before the Spanish conquistadors came and just wrecked shop and just destroyed everything and burnt all of their key poo, their language, which was a very weird language made of strings. So they had no written language whatsoever. They had series of strings that had knots in them. Right. These knots corresponded to data. Right. So that's, yeah, this is like surviving key poo writing. The most of this was burnt and destroyed by the Spanish conquistadors, but either way, the Inca were about 450, 500 years old. Mainstream, historians and archaeologists will say, well, they constructed those buildings with the stone nubs. Then you go to Mankari pyramid, 4,000 plus by mainstream estimates, stone nubs. That's a bit weird, right? They've both got the exact same architectural anomaly, because it's not even intersplayable on the opposite side of the world, and the chronology from the mainstream is stretched to completely ridiculous levels, 400, 500 years, 4,000 plus. The same architectural anomaly, and it's an architectural anomaly because we haven't got a good explanation for the nubs yet. So the fact that it's there, and then it's also in Japan and Turkey and places around the world, you find these stone nubs is even in like weird shadows in France, which makes me wonder about Freemasons and secret stone making abilities, because some of the shadows in France have like actual weird nubs coming out of some of the blocks, it's like, maybe this is a secret society, stone masonry thing that's been passed through into the medieval Europe and through the free masonry networks, but yeah, like these comparisons between Egypt and Peru, they don't just stop at the nubs, there's a lot more, but I think it's one that's really interesting, specifically because there isn't actually a fully recognized explanation for them. There is one guy online that I'll give a shout out to, though, Marcel Foti, he's a guy living out in Budapest, he's a, he's some former scientist, sorry buddy, I don't like, I haven't done a deep dive on you, but he's actually trying to prove that they were making liquid stone and then setting it back into real stone again, like kind of re-hardening the stone from some form of like slurry, like a cement, but without cement, like somehow breaking granite down and then reforming it into solid granite again, so they were pasting these things together, which is why in Peru they look almost like marshmallows that they wish together. And in fairness, he has found through a series of different ingredients that are very archaic and easy to actually produce even back, you know, a hundred and thousand years ago, he's actually created a mixture where he's breaking down granite or whatever stone he chooses and making it into teddy bear shapes and making it into cookie cutters and then setting it and it's coming back as solid granite in a star and a teddy bear and a, yeah, like a cookie. It does, he puts it online. Yep, yep, yep. If you go on X and type in Marcel, M-A-R-C-E-L, Foti, F-O-T-I, he is, oh, I think I have heard of this guy. He's about now. He's starting to make a bit of noise. People are going, okay, hang on, reposting him a lot on X. He actually posted up something recently, which is a bit of an overall, like, explanation of what he's doing, so that'll probably be a good thing to look at. Yeah, there's also this idea in South America how they were using acid. Potentially, to do this, there's this, like, these natural acid deposits in South America and these certain locations where they're theorizing that those, that acid could have been used to soften at least the outer parts of the stone or like the edges to sort of fit them together better. Yeah, I think Jeffery Drum, how an Egypt, has a similar position on some of the work out in Egypt that they were using acid etching to smooth out some of the imperfections and, you know, that they had more sophisticated chemical processes than we currently believe. By the way, if you go on my ex-profile, sorry, bro, if you go on my ex-profile, there's actually like a pretty prominent image when you scroll down of like a piece of granite that looks very eroded at the bottom. That's his post. That's a quote, repost from Marcel, so you should be able to get to his profile from that. And the other mystery about, specifically, the stuff in South America is the MOI heads. Yeah, do that fast. Now, I'd love to go out there. Those big heads, the conventional explanation was the way they moved those through the jungle so many miles. It was like stone rollers or like, was rafts, but they did this guy we had on the on the show Ed Barnhart, who's like this very highly regarded. I think he's an archaeologist, an anthropologist, a specialized in South American cultures. They did the math and they said that there would have been no way for them to build a raft. The raft they would have had to build to float one of those heads as much as they way would have been had to have been like three times wider than the river that they brought it down. As I've gotten older, I've become a lot more selective over the supplements I'm putting in my body. If I'm taking something every single day, I want to know what's actually in it and not just what the label says. And that's why I use momentous. 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And even if it would, even if those boxes did fit down those hallways, how do they meant do a right turn into the little 70+ tons, so that, you know, they've, like again, floated out, you know, theories pun intended of like gaseous, like elements being placed inside to like lift it with water and none of it matches, none of it mathematically makes any sense for the weight. So, you know, you've got inside the actual subterranean system, you've got these winding passageways. When you first go down into the Serapium, you turn around and then you see the first one, whereas like the unfinished box that's just stuck in the middle of the passageway. And to get through, you know, to the following passageway is a literal case of, you know, that's how tight it is, you know. So the fact that they, once you navigate past it and you go down and you follow on, suddenly you come to a corridor where you've got all these different chambers on the right and the left, like deep cut chambers, you go over to one of these chambers and there's a box that's been set down, like cut down deep, like you've got to look over and the box is down there and even the The bedrock itself has been cut angually so that it fits, like it fits in, connected. Not just placed on the actual stone, the stone was cut so that it connects down into it. This is so much effort for what they say is just a tomb for balls, like a balls, the apis balls. Some cult out there that was like, you know, venerating the apis ball and- Yeah, it's an insult to our intelligence. It's crazy, bro. It's crazy. Like the only thing that they have for that, literally, it's not bones or any left overrun. It's an etching of a ball alongside of a hieroglyphs on one of the boxes, which could have been added later. Which could have been added later. And most likely is because when you do just a comparison of expertise between these precision-formed granite boxes that are polished to like a mirror shine, and then when you go inside them, the right angles are so precise, the guy, I'm blanking on his name, the engineer Chris Dunn, was like, this is on par with aerospace level of engineering, right? And then, you know, so we're like, mirror shine precision inside, 70 plus tons, crafted down fitted into the ground. Yeah, there's photos of him holding up a square tool. Yeah, yeah. To the top of it. And there's no gaps between the granite and the tool. Like the amount of effort required to do that with apparently copper tools, from my copper tools, or stone sound, sand abrasion, light, and it's bullshit. I've been inside this myself. It is airy. It is, you know, these things are strange. It's just too precise. It's too much. And it's more precise on the inside. This is another thing that I highlight myself, is that it's more precise on the inside than the outside. It's more aesthetically pleasing on the inside than the outside. Now does that make sense for a funerary box? A funerary box should be the most aesthetically pleasing on the outside. On the outside. The inside shouldn't matter. Wow. That ball is pretty impressive though. Yeah, but that's not in there. Oh, that's not in there. That's not in there, bro. Where was it? That's just in the museum. That'll just be in a museum. Like they would have found that somewhere nearby. Like that's the one that they use. Two of a three. Two of a three ball. Yeah. And another thing is, you know, again, the level of expertise on the polishing and the precision engineering inside doesn't match up with the high-reglific quality of the outside of the box. So if you look at that one on the far left, the one on the far left, it's like big black. It's like chicken scratch. Yeah. It's like a bunch of cars can long later, right? And the Egyptians were known for doing this. They'd slap a cartouche on everything. You know, they'd find it. They'd put a cartouche on it. I own it. This is this Pharaoh's and XYZ. So it's no surprise that they found it. And reality, this ship was just as much as a mystery as it is to us to them. I truly believe so. Yeah. They found a lot of these places, considered them deeply important, repurposed them, reused them if they could. And they just drew, you know, hieroglyphs on them. Yeah. They should have been smart like us and made money on them. Yeah. There is one in there. There is one in there that actually does have high-reglifics that are engraved into a level of quality that is applicable to the actual quality of the box. But only one of them, which is quite interesting. The rest are just chicken scratched on. But yeah, this is one of the weirdest places that I've ever been and I was lucky to be able to quickly jump inside this box and actually get a look inside it. And it's just very airy and it makes you wonder what they were really used for. And, you know, people have all sorts of theories about them being, you know, batteries or energy storage devices. Right. Or, you know, I think maybe even like a sensory deprivation chamber of some form, it could be something to do with isolating yourself off. But I don't believe they were the top two things, bro. And what is the, like, so fucking big as well. It's not the photos. The photos don't really do it justice, like it is insanely big. It's just crazy when you're actually standing next to it. Yeah, look at it with the person next to it. Yeah, it's always good to see speed. No, go down. There's a better one. Yeah, that one there with the guy. Yeah, I mean, look at that. It's gigantic. Okay. Gigantic. You're needing like a thousand people to move that top stone. Yeah. That cover. Fruit, fruit, a chamber that accommodates two people on each side. It's just nonsensical. So it's a real mystery and the secara complex, which is the above ground complex, the pyramid side is equally mysterious. I mean, I went there with Jeffrey Drum. We recorded all across that place. We found some very weird things like inside the pyramid of UNAS. There's a very strange series of engravings on the wall that are invisible to the human eye until you perceive them with a light that's been on the right angle. So like down in the UNAS pyramid, there is a room, which is like the sarcophagus room. By the way, if you've got my ex profile and type in shadow people, UNAS, UNAS, like guarantee or come up or shadow statue, I'm sure it will because it did go pretty viral. You go down into this chamber and the back three walls and the floor, like the quarter, the back quarter of the floor and the walls are made out of a solid slab of calcite crystal, like just one solid piece of calcite crystal. Check this out actually. This is better than me talking about it. When you put the audio here, you see the figure, whoa, whoa, you see the belly button and then the arms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't see this without the flashlight. Wow, baby, baby. So it's repurposed. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Incredible. Yeah. One more. See it just vanishes. Right, right. This side of the wall as well. Okay, take. Yeah, nothing. So there's nothing there. Okay. Uh-huh. And then boom, you see it? Yeah. Wow. So these are like, you can't see it because there's no light in there. These are the original engravings, though, and these have been, you know, obviously drawn over with aromatic writing and motifs. The shadow figure is done using a different stone working technique. Yeah, the shadow figure. The stuff that appears when you try the lights, yeah, I think that was probably added way later. You think it was added later? I think so. I think it's probably, unless, unless those hieroglyphs go into the, I think it's over the top of it. Like, it's over. Oh, okay. So I think that this is the original. Yeah. And far more advanced level of morphing the stone because it's not even engraved. The actual calcite crystal is shaped into that shape. You can see it's not cut when we look back over at it. This has been scratched in, where is that formed in? The one that appears with the shadow was there first. Yeah. And then we, you know, they came down and drew all of this stuff, which is beautiful, but it's no way near the same level of sophistication as what is originally there. Right. And it's just interesting that the back, the back walls, because like the only annoying thing about is one clip, is it hasn't got the bit where my friend Jeffrey is demonstrating how the light behaves on the different stuff. Right. The inside of the wall is completely white and the other side when you put the torch on glows orange, like it's amazing orange, like all of the walls, because it's crystal. It's made of crystal. Is there any natural light that gets into the room or is it pitch black if there's no lights in there? I think it's pitch black if there's no light. It's just deep down in the pyramid, like in the, in the underground section of the pyramid. Oh, wow. Yeah. But the unas pyramid complex has got a lot of stuff on the outside as well. It used to be a two-story complex. That's not there anymore. Just a huge kind of debris field of incredibly engineered granite, like massive blocks of megalithic granite that have been created into what looked like port-colour systems that would have interconnected, but it's all discarded around this site. Weird drill holes through solid granite like tubular drill holes going through that you can see the striation marks of a circular drill going for it. So there's a whole bunch of stuff. Again, I covered all of that in a focus episode on Sekara with Jeffrey, which is worth watching if anyone wants to check it out. Just one thing after another that doesn't quite match up and, yeah, I mean Egypt's fascinating if you can. It is. If you can survive the chaos. What's your best bet of what the pyramids were? Like 10-foyle hat, super out there theory. If I was going to go for my best 10-foyle housey, but super out there theory, I think it would be like some sort of like astral projection machine, like something that's more about spiritual science than literal science. And you know, you look at the King's Chamber with its incredible megalithic rose granite structure, because the rose granite, which as many know, was brought 600 miles from Aswan Grey. Right. Right. 600 miles, 70, 50, 70 ton blocks of red granite transported that distance. And the King's Chamber is made out of the red granite. So you know, you go through this limestone pyramid. And when you get up to the top of it, it's this incredible chamber of red granite. And granite's a piezoelectric material. So it produces electrical conductivity under mechanical stress. And a form of mechanical stress is acoustic vibration. And the pyramid itself is acoustically resonant. So they've done a lot of tests inside the King's Chamber. It seems to perform, I think, it's around 110, 114 hertz, which again is like that magic frequency that starts to shift the brain and shift the state that's in. And so I wonder if-- Was it F sharp? Was it F sharp? I can't. Are that a Chris Damotana? Yeah. So he's aware of it as well, like the acoustics, you know. And this is something I'm very interested in across the world, especially in prehistoric structures, is what they call psychoacoustic architecture. So architecture that is deliberately engineered to reflect acoustics in ways that affect you psychologically. Right. Psychoacoustic architecture, the fact that that was being done in what we call the Stone Age is really quite fascinating. So the pyramid also has what you could call psychoacoustic architecture within the King's Chamber. And it also has this red, granite structure that, you know, when acoustic vibration is put through it, can have this piezoelectric effect. And so if I was going to go down a really exotic route of what the pyramids were for, it could be some spirit science coupling of using acoustic energy, using the natural conductive effects of the the stone that you're implementing into the pyramid, especially because limestone and granite have a weird coupling with each of us. So limestone is an amplifier of acoustic vibration, which is why the Greeks and all the Romans used like made their amphitheater's out of limestone 'cause it projected across. So people at the back hear it resonating through the stone. It's like a natural microphone. It's a good waveguide for acoustic energy. So limestone assists in the acoustic amplification process and red granite can be influenced through acoustic vibration to create conductivity. So the fact that you've got this pyramid that's made of limestone with a concentrated core of red granite, which also has acoustic engineering throughout it makes me think, well, maybe there's a coupling then between the acoustic energy, the interactions between these materials, and some desired effect that came from that. And again, invoking the fact that we are also electromagnetic biological computational beings in some way, right? We are energetic beings. Maybe this is some form of complementary energetic coupling between I'm saying energy a lot. I'm sure people go, "I'm podcasting." I know, I know, I read comments like I know, I know. But the energy of the electromagnetic reaction between limestone and granite, plus the energy of an electromagnetic being, these two things coinciding in coupling, plus the fact that this is orientated on true magnetic north with the Fibonacci sequence, it's like, is this some sort of strange, trans-dimensional astral projection machine where someone would sit inside that king's chamber within the sarcophagus and have some form of incredible energetic experience through that? Some sort of, you know, if we're looking at psychoacoustic architecture, when I explained it to Alex, - That must have been really fucking important to them to build that. - But this is what I'm saying though. But this is what I'm saying. Like, you know, when you look at the fact that psychoacoustic architecture is present within the prehistoric world before we invoke Egypt, and when I explained psychoacoustic architecture to Alex Jones, he was like, so that's basically drug temples. Like a sound, sound temples for drugs. I was like, yeah, yeah, Alex, like sound temples for drugs. And that's basically what we're looking at, is some form of consciousness expanding experience through the medium of acoustics, deliberately engineered to impact the human brain. And that seems to be present in the prehistoric period. The fact that the pyramid might be some form of apex example of that scientific lineage is where I'm wondering it might have gone. Is it some form of acoustic psychological engineering attempt to intersect between spirit and science? So yeah, like that's where I go and if I was like falling off like, you know, the edge of the world and saying that's where I'd, you know, that's where I'd like it to be. - And what was the, like the practical, like what did they achieve? - I wonder, like what were they getting? What were they getting out of it? I mean, if I can sit in my back garden, bro, and have like orange orbs turn up just 'cause I'm flirting with the universe a little bit. - What happens when you build a fucking pyramid? - Right, right. - I'm just saying, and like, you know, you go down into places like the Dendara Temple, Hathor's Temple in Dendara, underneath the actual temple, like in the subterranean elements. This is where you get the light bulb motif, you know, one of like an Egyptian god, like holding what looks like a light bulb. A lot of people have talked about it over time, but the whole area down there is a bizarre, weird story with reptilian beings, and you know, these large beings with humans praying and venerating below them. Saimatic geometry is all across this chamber. I just think that like in, you know, whatever the pyramids were and whatever was really going on in actual ancient Egypt, which I don't think was dynastic Egypt in terms of like, ferronic Egypt. I think it was way further back. And the ferronic era and the dynastic era is just a consequence of people finding these structures and building a civilization around it. - Yeah. - That's what I think truly happened. - Right. - And so like they're piecing together a story, and it seems to invoke a different civilization at a time that was more advanced. And I know people, you know, again, roll their eyes, Atlantis and things like this, but, you know, it's like, you know where the Atlantis story comes from, comes from Plato. You know, Plato got it from Solon, right? So Solon actually went to Egypt, and he spoke with these priests in the city of Sais, and he got told by them that, oh, you don't know anything. You Hellenese, you Greek, you know, there's been like cycle after cycle that even we've lost count. You know, you know nothing about these different civilizations that came before your time, before our time. So I think that the Egyptian dynasties and ferronic reign was a period where some level of knowledge of the time before was being preserved and kept and maintained and kind of venerated. But it wasn't active, it died. It lost itself that the pyramid was off if it was ever on. And it wasn't these guys that just, you know, constructed it. It was something far older that was discovered by them. You know, this finks is another point of contention with that, with like the water erosion around the, around the pits, and the evidence that it was far older than conventional dynasties. Was the story they found another finks or something? Yeah, I mean the second finks, I have my doubts on that. I want to see like excavation. I want to see actual excavation. Who came up with this? Filippo Beyond, eh? Oh, that guy. Yeah, I've hung out of him. He's a fun guy dude. He's a fun guy, I like Filippo. Yeah, but I Filippo-- Jeffrey Drum gave us a whole-- Yeah, I was just a class on all that. You know, and he said he would there with you, actually. For real? Yeah, I'm homies of Jeffrey. Like, you know, like, I'm here, I'm smoking weed with Filippo, and I'm hanging out with Jeffrey. Like, you know, like these things intersect. And so I think Filippo is a great guide, or I think he's right about everything. No, do I think Jeffrey's right about everything? No, do I think I'm right? No, like, you know, pinch a soul of everyone, including myself, man, like geez, you know. But I just think like the seconds thinks it seems like less important than the potential of some, you know, huge structures beneath the pyramid. But like you said, with Jeffrey, he's brought up some points of contention that actually need to be addressed, you know. Potential artifacts and signatures that have been copied over or just used as some sort of explanatory framework for what's under the pyramids that seem to be appearing in other parts of Filippo's work, like spirals and things like this. So they'll have to say, you know, all due respect to Filippo, I think he's a lovely human being. But I also have to be objective and sit back and go, well, Jeffrey's bringing up good points. So I would like to see real evidence and real digging and excavation, which admittedly in a place like Egypt, especially when you're a foreign body, is not an easy thing to which you feel like they don't want people coming and making their own conclusions about the pyramids. And it's like, even when I was filming with Jeffrey down in the Seraphim, like he's talking to me and the guys, like, you cannot see, you cannot be a guide. He was like, you know, I'm not a guide. I'm not a guide. He's just my friend. We're just talking like, who was saying that? Just, oh, when you go down in these places, there's always some dude who has to kind of follow you. Like, you know, just like a guard or, you know, a temple keeper. So he was kind of like, you can't stop, stop saying these things. Like, you know, they don't like it. The while they don't like a white guy going in, they're like, this is the truth about this. Because there's that one guy who's like one of the, one of the legends, his dad was like a legend of that place who gives a lot of tour guides there. And it is also on the same page with these alternative theories. Yeah. Forget his name. He lives right there. Is it a natural hour bit guy? Yeah. Or is it an Egyptian guy? Yeah, Egyptian guy. I know, I'm pretty sure I know the name, but it's also a little tip of my tongue because it's kind of a long name. Uh-huh. But yeah, there's a few people out there that are very much in the alternative world of, you know. And they live there and they have a good time. You know, you can get like the Mickey Mouse tour or you can get like a real tour. But yeah, but you can get, you can get the Mickey Mouse tour and you can also get the Mickey Mouse tour and the alternative. Like, you know, just bullshitting their way through Egypt to make money. Because that's a real thing. Exactly. You know, I haven't done the tours yet, but I'm certain the at the point where I could do the tours, I have a level of like, I don't want to do that kind of stuff. I prefer to just go out travel on my own, not be responsible for anyone and just kind of do my thing. And I also don't consider myself some like major authority on these, on these subjects. Like I'm researching, I'm looking, I'm learning myself. But, you know, it's, I won't name anyone, but there are just like enough people out there that just kind of get a little bit of fame. And it's like, right now I'm doing tours for 4,000, 5,000, 6,000, 8,000. It's just like, dude, I know what you're doing. You just, again, like we were saying about Greer. I respect Greer for a lot of the research he's done and CE5 is real. But turning it into the money-making industry he's done, it's like, oh, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't have any animosity towards people making a level of money in their profession. But when it's kind of like, you can tell that it's being engineered towards that being the primary factor. It's like, oh, you've lost your, your way with it. Yeah, and people see right through it, people see through it. I see through it and that's why I'm kind of like, I don't want to be in the tour people. I don't want to be another, oh, like, Jay's tour through Egypt, like, let me solve the mysteries. I'm not that, it's too corny for me, bro. Like, I'm not about that. So like, I'd rather just go out and like, you know, try and travel and document and, you know, I've taken some people out before, like kind of on the low, like just like one, one guy is like, I don't want to go out to Egypt. Like, yeah, go on, let's do it. I'll take you out and we can't take you to Egypt. That'd be fun. Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love to do that. Yeah, I want to climb the top of it. I want to go. You can't do that at all. No, unless you want to AK round, get in a shot and see, like, there's people who took photos up there. Yeah, no, I know, but like, you will get in serious trouble if you do that these days. Like, can you like pay, can you like, agree someone? Man, there's only so much. You can backshish away through things like out there, which is their term for bribe. Like, yeah, like, it is like that, that is the way of the world of Egypt is to bribe like everything, like, you know, you'll go through multiple, even while the Egyptian's call, corruption points, you know. That's just, you know, you pay a bit of money and they won't hassle you. But yeah, like, there's a limit to that. There's a limit to that. I mean, they gave me a hard time when I was there last time on the plateau. All I did was I was just lying down on a piece of granite that was next to the pyramid, just looking up at the pyramid, having a moment waiting for myself, waiting for the other guys to finish. They came up and was like, you know, you have to move, I'm saying, "Baby, my fish must kill her." There's no problem, I can speak a bit of Arabic enough to kind of pass it off, but they were still just like, you can't lie down for five minutes next to the pyramid. So they're pretty weird with that stuff, also absolutely no meditation. It's not allowed. No meditation in any Egyptian temple or side, dude. They will really, like quickly, if they see you, especially if you're going, if you're doing any humming, I don't know, like maybe for religious reasons, you could get conspiratorial with it and say they don't want you activating the site, you know, you could say that, who knows? But you do get in trouble for it. If you sit there and harm, they'll say, no meditation, they'll come up like no meditation, no meditation. So, you know, they're quite strict about things like that, which is interesting. And then there's also that new, that big void that they're trying to discover or trying to explore. The labyrinth. No, no, not the labyrinth. The big void inside the great pyramid that's supposed to be above the, the, the grand gallery. And I think even scan pyramid, which is the official group of been talking about that void within the pyramid. Well, it shows that something weird is there and they're, I think they're trying to, maybe they drilled into it already. I mean, like to me, this feels like slow drip US government disclosure, like the UFO thing, like it's kind of like you don't think that the Egyptian antiquities and government have been inside and done their own classified, you know, secret drilling and, of course, like they've 100% scoured that pyramid. So it's like, oh, I can't wait for the new revelation, you know, of something that they've now lew it and taken all of the, you know, contradictory elements out of it potentially. Of course. But yeah, no, you're right. And the labyrinth is fascinating. Yeah. Very interesting. The labyrinth stuff is fucking crazy. Yeah. And especially that whole story about that thing, Dippy, that they called Dippy, which was a, when they, when they originally did the scans of it, I want to say in like 2014 or whatever, the guy who did the scans, they used, they used all kinds of different satellite stuff and other technology to scan the, the labyrinth. And there was one part of it where, like the way it showed up on the radar was they thought it was metallic. Oh, yeah. And they thought it was like, how big was it? 40 years. It was the tic-tac brainings, wasn't it? Yeah. I thought it was, for example. It started saying, oh. It was only 40 feet. It's either 40 feet or 40 meters. 40 meters sounds more correct. Yeah. I swear it was like 40 feet. Because at least it was similar in comparison to the tic-tac. Type in labyrinth. Type in labyrinth. Dippy object and see what it tells you about it. It was huge. Oh, yeah. No. I remember everyone losing their shit saying there's a UFO underneath the labyrinth, there's a metal object in there, mysterious 40 foot long labyrinth objects and it's like, well, we haven't been down there yet. So again, it's not much to say, over then, sounds interesting. But there's tons of writing, like from antiquity, from these ancient Greeks, to talk about the labyrinth theory. Legendary. More impressive than the Greek pyramids. The Heraclates, I think, was one of them, I think. It was funny. Yeah. He was one of them. There was a couple about the grand splendor of the labyrinth, the labyrinth, and so, you know, something there. But another one of the issues with that place is that it's getting waterlocked underneath the ground. Because of the groundwater here. Yeah, yeah. So if they don't excavate soon and recover something, it will just be eroded away and destroyed and most likely a few parts of the reason for that. Well, you know, part of the reason for that is they built this man-made channel. Yeah. Yeah, to divert water flow. Yeah. And that really fucked it up. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It will continue to. And no less than a hundred meters long. No less. And the thing is, the thing is, like, in fairness, this is not typical of ancient Egypt. Sure. Like a large metallic object. Is that black something that you would typically see in, you don't have 40 meter long metal objects that are in museums. So whatever this is, it is weird. You know, whatever this is, it's not typical. So here is my question, though. So when Lewis to Cordiae was here, he was telling me that black thing in the middle, but in the middle of that green, green stuff. Basically, is that dippy metallic object that's 40 by 100 meters. And it's basically sitting inside of a giant atrium, where, you know, it's sitting in this big open area where there's, like, layers and levels of, like, walkable space on each side. Like, I'm kind of like in the middle of a shopping mall corridor, you know? This again, with that question. But my question is, like, what is the other black shit? Well, yeah. Like, if you count-- I agree. If the black means metal, then that means there's metal scattered throughout this whole thing. I agree. I understand that. He didn't understand. Yeah. So we'll hang on a second. And then if he didn't understand, how was his interpretation of this was the metal? Like, why is that? So this was at his interpretation. This was the guy who actually scanned it, who's now dead. Right. Okay. And the guy that scanned it, who's now dead, said that this is the-- I would love to ask him that question. Like, why? He was written, like, who's saying that he said that? Can you pull up the-- Like, I'm just trying to-- He just came from. And this is where the original claim that the black represents metal comes from. Mm-hmm. Tim. Who's Tim? Tim, Tim. Tim. I could. Tim. Type in, scroll up to the top. It'll tell you, hopefully, his whole name. It's that old guy right there. Tim Acres. That was the guy. Tim Acres lived in the birthplace of Tim Acres. It's not like scanning company. Yeah. Okay. So Tim Acres, I believe, is dead now, but-- Oh, okay. Okay. Not in special access programs. There you go. You can't have some good scans of pyramids or labyrinths without a special-- That's a new stuff, right? Right. So why doesn't this show in? Right. Yeah, there's no black. See, I have questions. Like, this is why you have to sprinkle salt on everything. Right. Because who knows what the real truth is. I do know for-- you know, this is a genuine labyrinth. Yeah. It's a fascinating, incredible architectural space that we should look at, but it's sadly eroding away into the desert. Whether or not there is a giant metal UFO inside. Go back to the article, Steve. I want to see what exactly they-- how they describe. The technology that they used to scan it. Oh, scan. Well, isn't it just Jeep, y'all? Okay. A sort of stink layers underground. Five, if you include the surface right below the Mother Rock, Tim said. These layers are separated by 20-50 meters and align quite strikingly with elements seen in the Huara GeoScan survey. I don't know if that's what this is. Satellite inverted satellite scan. Okay. Yeah. Do a search, a command F for satellite. Okay. Yeah, I feel like these look more like artifacts to me than actual structure. Tim, acre satellite scans. Okay. What kind of satellite are we talking about? His satellite scans. But it's definitely interesting. You know, I would love to see some sort of ex-- Yeah. Like an excavation of it, but I heard it's a bullshit excavation. I mean, I've been out there and it's not as fucking anything going on. Yeah. Yeah, it's still very much just buried under the ground. So, yeah, there's not much excavation going on whatsoever. But yeah, like, you know, metal objects aside. It's still a fascinating place. Like, there is apparently written in Greek literature. This, you know, mind-blowing wonder of the world that even overshadows the pyramids. I want to see that. I want to see what's in there, you know? Sadly, I think we've already lost a good portion of it, you know? And with the way that it's going, I don't anticipate there being any major excavations anytime soon. Okay. So, as Tim makers used holographic subsurface 3D radar processing and ultra-high frequency data. Interesting. From private orbiting satellites via his company, Merlin Burrows. Okay. To scan the Huwara-Egypt lab breath. So, not GPR? Something a little bit more sophisticated than GPR. But who knows how real it is? Who exactly, exactly, you know? Like, one of the things that really blew my mind that Jeffery was showing me with the Beyondy scans of the Coffra pyramid was he was showing the scan and he overlaid it on top of what we actually know of the inner chambers in that pyramid and it's completely different. It basically shows there's like multiple King's Chamber-sized chambers and we know for a fact they're not there. This is the thing. Yeah. Interpretation of data skewed by bias, you know? Right. And you know, for the most part, myself included an overlooking of that kind of scrutiny because they believe it and it's like that's exciting and this is very interesting. But, you know, when someone brings up something like that and matches it together, you would be wrong to sit there and go, "Oh, come on." Like, you know, you have to admit that there are problems, right? So, like, we have to look at it and it's disappointing. Because you can't be married to that bullshit. You can't be matured like there are so many different situations over the, you know, like the four or five years that I've been traversing various subjects as a podcast host and a research where, you know, you think maybe this is actually leading into a good signal and then it kind of just dies off, you know? And it would be a shame if there was absolutely nothing to this. It would be a real shame because a lot of people believe in it very strongly. But, yeah, like Jeffrey has admittedly highlighted some parts of this that just are major discrepancies. So, you know, you can't let that go. You can't just dismiss that. Right. God had to walk about it. And, you know, regardless, enough said this as well, like even throughout the excitement of the scans and, you know, the Caffer Scans, removing all of this from the equation, these places are still unbelievable. Oh, yeah, totally. Fascinating and mysterious. You know what? You want to know it really took the fucking wind out of my sales, man? What was it, bro? When I discovered that these things are probably man-made, like modern man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, fun fact. Yeah. I've got one of these. All of the most precise, all of the most precise granite vases like when they were scanned. A, they were not aswan granite. Right. Well, they would die, I think it might be diorites, a lot of them. Some of them were actual granite, some of them were diorite, but none of the precise ones were aswan granite. Right. Meaning the same granite that was used to build all the shit on Giza. Of course. Especially the ones that were put in the bottom of that pyramid. There are tons of granite vases that are super rugged and, like, not perfect, that are aswan granite. Yeah, man. That are even in the museums. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, with that, you just gotta follow the money. - Yeah, the precision money. - There's a lot of motherfuckers who want to make a lot of money on these crazy artifacts on this antiquities market. - Right. - And that's probably what it is. - I hate to say you're probably right. Although that could again potentially be some precursor examples that people worked from. And the only reason I didn't vote that is because you can look at things like the Serapim and other examples of course. - Of course. - So they were doing something on this incredible precision, but you can mind again, like the money game is big in this alternative world. And I don't think people realize how important that is, you know, in terms of like the hustle and the grifting and the money making. Like, you know, I hear a lot of people who kind of go back to UofRG, although it speaks very much the alternative history world as well. Oh, come on, there's not much money in UofRG. It's like, "Oh, shit, there is some, bro." There's film deals, there's like, you know, there's major, major money to be made in this game. So, you know. - So you have a UofR podcast, you can make a small fortune. - Yeah. - Just like, I mean, and that's human nature too. Like, I just have learned by just doing this podcast. If I just did UofO podcast, my podcast would be five times the size it is right now. - You think? - I mean, yeah, but the UofO stuff has the biggest audience. Everyone loves the UofO stuff, but you can't just fall into that trap. I gotta do, I mean, I gotta do things that I'm interested in what I'm gonna do. - I'd go insane if I just cover it. - Right, I would go insane, you know. - Totally. - You know, I think me and you are similar in like, our curiosity goes off in a lot of different avenues. It's like, "Oh, I'm covering UofOs "and I'm like, you're psychedelics. "I might speak to a scientist "and I might speak to a religious leader of some form." I like all sorts of different ideas. And being restricted to one subject like UofOs, I could never do that. But yeah, it's a very weird kind of subject to traverse. And there's a lot of money to be made. And you have to be very careful of that. And it's one of those things where, like you said, oh, you could get so many views on the UofO subject. It's like true, objectively covering it, you can still get views. And you could also just like set out your morals and be like, "Yeah, I got an insider source. "Yeah, yeah, yeah." You just make 'em up. You just make 'em and people do. Of course they do. They just pull the source out of their ass. And people could like, "Wow, it's like a new insider." It's like, how long are we meant to believe this for? It's like, you know, I see through a lot of the time and other times I've been, I've been duped. You know, I've had a couple of people on my podcast where I'm like, "Oh, damn, like, you know, "they were full on grifter." Right, you know? - Yeah, it happens to us, man. - Yeah. It's the way it is. You know, playing the game and going through this mind field and, you know, it's like you said about the different categories of people with, like, you know, you've got grifters and people who are real experiences and it all gets mixed up. You've also got just people who are out of their mind, like actual delusional people that see patterns and chaos that aren't there. And the problem with the UFO subject is because it is so outlandish anyway as a subject, the floodgate is open for everyone, including every delusion, every paranoid conspiracy, every toast that is spying on you. You know, like all of that is part and parcel of this. You've got real actual experiences. Like, it's fine thread and it's all compiled in with government, siops, grifters and just crazy people. And, you know, like, sipping through that is mental. It's really hard. And it's like, you know, been a challenge over the years to do that and sometimes you accidentally pick up someone who isn't legit, you know? - Right. - Yeah, I think as long as you're honest about that with your audience as well. So don't try and hide behind it and be like, "Oh, you know, I got treated like, got duped." So you guys, you know, you know, it happens to everyone. - Yeah, you go see honest. - You start to notice the patterns after a while with those types of people. - Yeah, yeah. - I've sharpened up a lot over the last couple of years. - And again, there's people that try to, like, start hedging up front and playing super cautious up front. You know, I don't like to say these things like this is how, this is all the credible things that I've done. And, you know, I don't like to talk about this, but there is this thing or whatever. And it's like, I've noticed over the years that the people who are like the most upfront about things, like out of the gate and that aren't afraid to say the most outlandish shit. Usually the outlandish shit ends up being the true shit. - It's the most true. - Yeah, no, 100%. - Like the steamer, we were talking about Steven Greer earlier. Like, I just think that that guy is probably a very correct about a lot of things he fucking says. - No doubt. - But he's just, he's just impossible. He's an impossible personality to contend with. - He believes his narrative to the tea. Like, you know, there is not really any maneuvering. And that's one thing that I really try and protect myself against is coming up with any sort of conclusion on these utterly bizarre, unexplainable things that we still don't have any sort of raw empirical data for. Like, the idea that you can kind of just be like, no, like this is it, I've figured it out 'cause I am just that intelligent. It seems like an ego trap to me. Like sure, I've certainly felt like I'm the smartest guy in the room a few times, but, you know, to carry that into like a level of conviction on like the anomalous is very like counterintuitive to me. It doesn't really make sense 'cause you don't have the explanations. None of us do. Like for me, I just offer points of possibility. Like maybe they're self-organized plasma, maybe. It's like projection. It's certainly not fucking drones being flown by teenagers. And it's certainly not flashing plane signals. Nick West, like, you know, screw you for like, even suggesting I'm that stupid. Like that annoys me when people are like, "Oh, you sure, were you, were you on any drugs?" It's like, dude, if I was on mushrooms, do you think I might have mentioned that? Oh yeah, I also took five rounds. You know, Dennis Orroves. Like, no, like the fact that it was a sober moment for me and he experienced these things, you know, there's no prosaic explanation I can find. So like, you know, it's certainly difficult to try and like, you know, explain those things to people. But yeah, like, it's, yeah, I've lost my train of thought a little bit there, I can't wand it off. But what I love about like, what people like Jesse do, is he not only will talk to like the crazy people who claim to be abducted and taken to some mothership somewhere, but he also does like, these crazy elaborate deep dives into the history of some of like, the towns and brown stuff. That was one of my favorites. You can't deny that. That's all the ginemist up. Oh yeah. He connects all the people that were around him and like, he finds the documents that corroborate, he talks to their fucking family members, like their daughters and shit. Like, it's like, that's some of his most impressive words. Like, you can't deny that. That shit's real. No, no, no. I mean, the whole kind of like, classified cold war, electro-gravity can, you know, like feel propulsion. This stuff to me is fascinating and real. And there's clearly a tangible line where suddenly the open discussion just cuts off and people drop into the classified world and it suddenly becomes a murky world of, you know, special access and unacknowledged special access and way you've been carved out special access and blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, that whole structure of secrecy erected around the cold war and just kept going and just kept strengthening. And tea towns and brown and I would also say, Nicolas Tesla, you know, these are points of, you know, contact where you can say, well, these guys were being taken very seriously by the national security architecture of the time, by the US Air Force, by the research laboratories, you know, they got brought in. And Tesla, you know, about the whole John G. Trump thing with Tesla, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the guy that was, yeah, Trump's uncle, MIT, electrophysicist, you know, kind of a genius electro guy. And he was the one that was brought in to assess all of Nicolas Tesla's work to see if there was anything for national security benefit. And one of the things that he did say in that interview that I've posted a couple of times, is that he came across correspondence between Tesla and the absolute highest levels of British and Russian royalty speaking to like the Tsar of Russia and speaking to the King of England about acquiring a super weapon of unimaginable power from Tesla. And like this correspondence between both Russian and British royalty about their desire to acquire this incredible weapon of, you know, unimaginable power. And John G. Trump is on this interview saying, "I never, you know, discovered what this was, although I have my suspicions of it being something that could do tremendous damage from a distance, using, I believe you mentioned, electromagnetic energy might not have, but you did say about tremendous damage from a distance." So there was certainly something he found where he considered it to be, you know, there was a mystery that he was designing something of, you know, very powerful energy for the royalty of Britain and Russia. So, you know, like, you know, people like T-Towns of Brown and Tesla and there's some others out there as well. Even the one that went a bit weird. What's his name, John Hutchinson? I don't remember that one. Hutchinson effect, the Hutchinson effect. What's that? The guy that was making like cannonballs float in his crazy laboratory full of wires and modules. Oh, I don't think I saw this. Oh, he's famous. In his case, if you, like, a John Hutchinson, and it's called the Hutchinson effect, or it's the Hutchinson, or something like that. You'll find it. It's very, well known. It was like a whole wiki on it. He's a weird dude. He was kind of like doing exotic experiments that only he could describe with all of these crazy modules, but he was filming levitating cannonballs, metal falling apart. Like, all of these really quite incredible videos. Then he got harassed by the US Air Force. And he was doing videos about how he was being harassed by these spooks coming to his lab. And then eventually he got debunked with this video of him making a UFO flying saucer model hover using his technology. But you can see this very clear nylon string. Oh, really? However, all of the other videos looked really legit. And then this one is so obviously a fake. It makes me think, was he forced to do that? Because the other ones aren't even close to this level of dumb. It was weird. The other ones were weird. And then the guy, I mean, he's like a princess now or something? A princess? Yeah, gender, the whole thing. He's the Hutchinson guy. Yeah, he's like, he's got a YouTube channel where he's like a princess. Oh, wow, this guy really got fucking MK Ultra, didn't he? Yeah, pretty hard. You find anything honesty? Oh, I mean, yeah, there's a bunch of videos. Yeah, dude, like old school videos of him. It's, there's a lot. Is this one of his videos a Red Bull can? I don't remember the Red Bull can, but Hutchinson effected a whole bunch of videos So there could certainly be one of a Red Bull car. Yeah. So he's got, I mean, there's so many effects. This is, this is one where, like, what is the explanation of how he did his stuff to floats? Whoa. And it's, it's, his metal melts. It's chaos engineering, bro. Like, if it's real, only he could explain it, because he was using all these different modulators and acoustics amplifiers, electromagnetic amplifiers. And he found his particular sequence in this pirate chaos lab that he had in his apartment. Dude, his whole apartment was just full of stuff. Is this the guy right here? Yeah. This is him. That's there he is. I mean, he looked weird then. You should see him now. Oh, he looks good. You should see him now, bro. But yeah, he is not weird. I find a picture of him as a princess. He's got a, you just, he's lit. She got a fucking you. I saw a video and I was like, oh, this is last name. What's his first name? I don't, John, John Hutchinson is his name. John Hutchinson. I'm sure if you typed in princess or whatever, it would probably come up. Oh, man, maybe on YouTube. Man, he looks like a cool mad scientist. Yeah, no, he looked like a cool, but yeah. And he, like, whatever happened to him, man, like, I don't know. But he's another example of someone that was being messed around with by the national security state and seemed to have something going on. Yeah. There you go. Is that him? Oh, my. Yeah. That's him now. Oh, wow, they got him, bro. That's Kurt Metzler, what happened to him? He'll tell you. So yeah, like, he's another interesting case. And, you know, a lot of people took him very seriously before all of this happened. But yeah, like, people get messed with. Maybe he's another example. Someone he got messed with. His initial videos were very strange, making these things levitate, making these things move. It's enough Steve. We don't need to see it anymore. Yeah, it's kind of, kind of haunting. I don't think I blinked the entire time. Yeah, dude, like, you know, that's just the world we live in now, eh? But, yeah, like the gravity classified tea towns in Brown, it's 100% something there. And we were talking about it earlier when you mentioned the other guy that I had talked about on Joe Rogan, who was saying that he'd designed this vehicle that could go at the speed of light or beyond the speed of light, right? I think you'd mentioned it earlier, because this is another. Who was that? Well, we were talking about Bobby Reinhman and Bob Exner, and he brought someone up and I was like, oh, that's actually a different situation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, referring to this guy, which is the whole ARV flux liner alien reproduction vehicle flux liner story with Mark McCandlish. Yes, that guy. So Mark, it was Mark McCandlish that gave the world that schematic of this, you know, incredible flying saucer vehicle. There's like a blueprint engineering schematic, called the alien reproduction vehicle. I've got a blow-up of it in my study. It's awesome. Yeah, get a picture of that thing. It's incredible. You can get it on Etsy if you want that one. I've got that. I've got that blow-up. It's fantastic. It's good quality. It'd be good for your studio, actually, not a battle. But yeah, it's great. It's a great piece of work from a aerospace illustrator, Mark McCandlish, a celebrated aerospace illustrator who took his own life in a very strange and kind of, you know, the timing of it was pretty weird because he was meant to be testifying to the Senate Intelligence Committee about this really. I think a month before his series. It was very soon. It was coming up. It was coming up. I don't want to be definitive, but it was coming up. Either way, Mark McCandlish came out originally with Stephen Greer, 2001 National Press Conference, you know, where Stephen Greer organized to think about 50 intel guys that came up and spoken and said their piece. Well, this was lifted up by Stephen Greer and Mark McCandlish came up and introduced himself and explained this whole schematic as being a vehicle that his friend really shouldn't be forgetting this name, but I have. We'll have to cycle back on it. If you can find it, it'll be like the only other name attached to Mark McCandlish, which is ARV story. It's on the tip of my tongue. It begins with B, I swear. Either way, I shouldn't be forgetting that. That's really bad at me, but especially because I presented like a piece of key evidence that the guy actually did like had a phone call with a friend of mine, but either way, Mark McCandlish is friend who was part of the military. I really want to find that. It's annoying now. How about my brain right now that I can't remember his. Brad Sorenson? Yes, thank you. Sorenson, oh my god. Thank you. So yeah, Brad Sorenson was the friend of Mark McCandlish, a military friend of Mark McCandlish, who came to Mark and said that he was taken to a classified air show where they were taken into a hangar and shown these three vehicles, three of these vehicles in varying sizes called like Mama Bear, Baby Bear and Papa Bear, like, you know, colloquially within the within the intel community. And they were called alien reproduction vehicles, and you know, this guy was Brad Sorenson was showing them. He described them to Mark McCandlish, Mark McCandlish, being an aerospace illustrator created this very detailed tactic, right? So he used his friend's knowledge of making incredibly detailed internal structures of military platforms. And this is what came out of it. But no one ever heard from Brad Sorenson. So we only ever had, like, technically, the second hand story from Mark McCandlish saying, well, my friend Brad saw this and, you know, this is what happened. And of course, Mark took his own life or maybe he didn't, depends on who you talk doing who you believe. Obviously, the timing is pretty strange because he was meant to be testifying to the Senate on this subject, which would be very disruptive because we're not talking about designing our human platforms yet. Oh, we were talking about, oh, well, maybe we've got a vehicle. Maybe we're a reverse engineering. Maybe there's 12 house somewhere. We're not talking about, oh, we've designed and had one operational since the '60s, '70s, right? That's a bit too far ahead for the conversation. So maybe that was why he got stopped before he could keep going. Maybe. But either way, Brad Sorenson, no one had heard from him. A friend of mine who, again, has his connections into the American intelligence community, managed to find a phone number for Brad Sorenson. We got in touch with him. You got in touch with him. My friend got in touch with him. And I was listening on the phone as he got in touch with him. All right. So I had like, you know, the whole thing, I coast like listening in. And he said a bunch of things, including he was very angry about Mark McCandlish. He said, the Mark McCandlish, I mean, he was swearing all over the place about him, kind of saying he was a, you know, egotistical motherfucker. He wanted to, you know, I was trying to give him the keys to the kingdom and he had to go out there and tell the whole goddamn world. And, you know, and but what he said to my friend, and again, like, pinch of salt, who knows if this is true, but this was coming from Brad now. He said, I am capable of designing and building a vehicle that can go 210 times the speed of light. And that was the big bomb drop on the phone call. And he was like, you know, does that give, can you have a conformal tonight that it was, you know, a pretty shocking statement that he gave. And he basically reiterated it a couple of times and said, you know, we have turned over every stone in our solar system. And what we have realized is we have to make the earth work. And then he was going into how delicate of an ecosystem we have around our planet, how does no viable options around our planet. And he said, I will never go public with this because the people I work for, they would fucking fry me. And then he said something along the lines of, like he was, he respects his employers, like he was like, you know, these guys, they don't want to tell the world what they're doing. And they're trying to do things, you know, they're looking 20, 30 years into the future of what can benefit humanity. They, you know, they can't trust the masses, they can't, and I'm not going to be the guy, like kind of saying this whole thing about, I'm not going to be the guy that's going to go out there and say this, they're doing it for the benefit of humanity. And it's just like, you know, and they kind of reiterate, but I told you that I can design and build a spacecraft that goes 210 times speed of light. So does that give you an idea of where we're going? And I was just like, fuck, like, you know, he was just going off on my, and my friend introduced himself to a level that at least gave him the, he knew that he was part of the military. But he was very open with my friend on the phone. Like, so that's why, like, again, pinch a soul. Maybe he's telling the truth. He was very quick to just suddenly start bragging about things that sound like they're deep black classified. Right. Nevertheless, this is the point of contact that Martin McCandlish originally created that schematic from. And this is what he was saying on the phone 210 times a speed of light turned over every stone in the solar system. Yeah. So that's fucking Bobby Ray inland. We know there's no life in the galaxy. Right. How? So yeah, there's another point, there was another interesting thing that I came across and was just like, there we go, like, who knows? Maybe we've really got that far. If we have, we're living in a completely fake world, bro. Like, if they can do 210 times a speed of light, which doesn't even make sense to my mind. Yeah. If that's true, like, we're just living in like, such a lie, like, such a lie. Right. You know, like Flintstones, while they're out there beyond the point of even blasting rockets up into space without using all that fucking fuel. You know, those rockets are like 99% fuel that they blast into space. And they're also world about global. So 99% dollars is what you're saying. Just right. Exactly. That's an interesting observation you made there, Jay. Yeah. Just dollars pouring out. Right. All the time. Money, money, money, fuck creativity and science. Fuck it. Let's just make money every last penny out of it. Yeah, bro. I'll say, again, we've got pretty cynical at this point, but the world works. Yeah. It is how it works. It's insane. It all goes back. Just follow the dollars and find out everything. There's no money in field propulsion. There's no money in just a flowing disc that doesn't shoot anything out the back of it. You know, we can't put a gun on it. We can't put a gun on it. Yeah. Exactly. Can't do get a kinetic warfare. It's a point of it. Right. That's exactly what it is. No worries about Alpha Centurion beyond, right? Fuck it. Yeah. Buzz Lightyear. Who'd You cast, you know, just stay on his planet and rot. - Yeah, it's fucking crazy. - The best of these terrible people. Yeah, I mean, maybe conversating about it will actually make a change. - What did you take on that whole story of the guy who claimed to pick up the egg-shaped UFO who was his name? Anyways, Jesse did an interview with him. - And Jake Barber. - Jake Barber, I don't trust him. - Yeah, that was a freaky fucking story. - Yeah, he's a freaky fucking dude. And then the story of these mountains that use these, they can fly into these mountains. So they can turn the mountains on or off. - Yeah, like holographic mountains. - Well, they're real, they can make them hard. So if a helicopter crashes into it, it'll explode. Or they can plug a button and make the helicopter fly into it. - So fun. - Oh my God, it's insane. - So fun. - Love it. - Wacky. - My jaw was on the floor watching that documentary. - You know, like, Jake Barber, I remember 'cause he was involved with Skywatcher, like the whole Skywatcher thing, which was like, let's take CE5 and Greer's idea. Of course, we've spent about 10 years dismissing Greer and actively telling people in the UFO community not to pay attention to him, for people like Louis Luzando, like, you know, fuck Greer, fuck Greer, fuck Greer. But let's take his idea, militarize it, make it all about kind of like, you know, a bunch of commandos out in the desert with M16s who are setting up their little base of operations to, you know, do these psionic experiments. It's like, this is so lame. Like, honestly, it's so lame. Like, you've literally taken CE5 and you've just appropriated it into this kind of like, national security military. Like, we're out here looking for the aliens and we're ready for anything. And it's like, that is so counterintuitive to the entire idea of like, peaceful communication, contact some level of bridging this gap between us and whatever the hell's going on out there. So I actually, like, DM to Jake about that. And was like, you know, why do you guys go out and weaponize and like, you know, militarize? 'Cause I kind of feel, at least from my own experience of doing this type of practice. And I'm not some like, woo, woo, hippie. But just like from this very particular thing you're doing, which is consciousness-related engagement and invitation for communication with some other intelligence in the universe. Why do you think that you're, why is it appropriate to do it armed? Because I feel like you're introducing a level of doubt into your consciousness, a level of prepared for threat into your consciousness, that already negates the peaceful nature of what you're trying to do. Because it's no longer peaceful, because you're ready to kill and fight, which will be in the signal that you're sending. And we're going back to these very subtle threats. - Well, he's not the one making the decisions to do that though, right? - I just asked for a justification. - Right. - I just asked for him to explain it. And he never could explain it in a good way. It was like, oh, well, we're just prepared for anything. It's just like, that doesn't, again, like I really would like you to explain how you feel that you do not think that that impacts the mechanics of like the very subtle consciousness interaction. And he could never give me a good answer. I just don't think these guys are legit. I think that they've taken things that were being done and appropriated them for this new narrative that's focused around promotion of government, promotion of national security, and like kind of what's going on within the US system. Again, like Tom DeLong said this exact thing to John Podesta in the WikiLeaks. You know about the WikiLeaks email? So like the WikiLeaks emails that came out obviously, like, you know, about all sorts of things. Some really weird shit with John Podesta. They could go down the rabbit hole. Swimming pools and children and weird stuff. And things that he had in his house. That's his brother. That was his brother, okay. Equally as fucked up. You know, yeah. So like, you know, that family is really weird. We could talk about, you know, piece of cake stuff as well, because that's real. But yeah, on the other side of the equation, Tom DeLong, who was running the whole UFO disclosure thing silently in the background, talking to Lou and Chris and Hal Putz off before he went public and created two the stars, Academy of Arts and Science and introduced this whole thing. So he was emailing John Podesta, talking about the project to the stars academy. And he's emails are out there on WikiLeaks saying, the main goal is to try and change the opinion of the youth with their anti-government perspective and we're trying to reinforce the pro-government perspective. And when you've really listened to a lot of the interviews Tom DeLong does, he really pushes that whole thing of they're not the bad guys. I know that we've been conditioned to think that the bad guys, but that's only because they've been doing this in secret to help us. And it's like this perspective that he has is being echoed into the main narrative now that's reinforced by all of these intel guys. And again, they're taking things like Stephen Greer's CE5 and like militarizing it into a national security version of CE5. - Yeah. - So I just look at all of this. You're just kind of cherry picking from what's already out there and applying it to this very threatening kind of idea. And who knows, man, maybe Werner von Braun really did say that shit about the whole invasion being the last card, you know, Werner von Braun the broken side. - I didn't know what he'd say about the last invasion. - So if you heard of Carol Rosin, it sounds familiar. - Big frizzy hair. That's the most distinguishing feature of a white frizzy hair. You are for a woman. You might have seen it with Greer or like, she was the first see, oh, she doesn't look, is that her? - No, it's got an eye, it's Rosin. - Or an eye. - Yeah, Aros. And if you typed in like Greer alongside it, or probably, there we go. - Boom, I told you about that. - Most distinguishing feature. - She's in his documentaries. - So yeah, so she's actually as much as a hair is crazy. She was the CEO of Fairchild's Industries, which is a contract, a aerospace contractor. So she was actually like one of the first female aerospace contractors, CEO is like a very accomplished woman, who claims because she was working as Werner von Braun's personal assistant, you know, the end of his life. - Oh, I have heard her, yeah. - Of course, man, it's classic. On his death bed, he said multiple times that the last card is the alien card that there's gonna be a fake alien invasion. This is where like Blue Beam and all that stuff really kind of comes from, is like the original statements from Werner von Braun essentially just saying that there's going to be a fake alien invasion, that there's gonna be various stages, that they'll blame things on Third World, country dictators, and you know, like immigration. And he went through, basically said there'll be a domino effect of various things. And he was like, at least according to Carol, he was saying the last card is the alien card. And it's all a lie, it's all a lie. And so this is where people kind of go from the perspective of, well, look at what's happening with this recent UFO disclosure conversation, circa 2017 to present day, it's very threatening, very national security orientated, very, you know, unknown objects, shadowing Navy carrier strike groups in the ocean, going over, buzzing nuclear sensitive nuclear facilities, turning them on at will. It's all very threatening. And so, you know, you could be forgiven for saying, okay, well, it seems like they're building that narrative towards that outcome, towards that end game. And I don't think it's so black and white. I think there's a whole ecosystem of intelligence around us, and some of it could be malevolent, some of it could be benevolent, some of it could be neutral. I don't think using the spear of the military industrial complex is the best research tool for ufology. You know, now it seems like a bad way to go. You know, it should be scientific. Where's the contact stuff? Where's all the problem? Well, that's where they get the white lights. And they're like, seriously, the problem. Where is it? It's all military, you know? Let's get some helicopters with big billboards of lights on them or whatever they want to fucking do. But let's try something real. Well, that's the only lens you can logistically look at this stuff through if you want to put the money towards it. Like, you can't justify the money that it costs without putting it in the DOD or the Pentagon. That is one of the things people will say is like, well, this is the root. This is the way to do it because you're going to get the, you know, congressional wheels running, the Senate wheels running, if you invoke national security fair enough, again, like, you know, that's been said for a number of years now. But we're not actually seeing movement towards any actionable intelligence being revealed. Like, it's all just, you know, I mean, it's all done. We haven't gone very far. Yeah. And so that's why I'm kind of like, it feels more, it feels less about revealing information and more about engineering the narrative around the information because not much has been revealed, but a lot of narratives come out, you know, in a very particular skewed direction. And so I'm just like, very suspicious of like, you know, people like Lou and these guys. And, you know, like, I do think that Greer, and this is something that I've said before as well, even though I don't believe everything he says or think that he's some sort of, you know, pedestal of truth in the subject, he was absolutely kicking down the doors more than anyone else. And he was getting, you know, like these huge Netflix documentaries out there, he was starting the conversation, John starting the conversation again. And now, who's doing the conversation? Well, it's the American government in association with Lou and all these guys, right? Yeah. All these senators trying to like play the popular game. Yeah, absolutely. Well, they're punching their ticket on their voter base as well, right? They're trying to do what they're going to do to the podcast grows. Yeah, exactly. And they are and they're doing their best. But, you know, you look at someone like Greer, Greer kind of got left in the sidelines when TTSA came into the equation to Star's Academy. And it really feels to me, especially because some of the people in TTSA were taken from Greer's team, people that were originally working with Greer, and we've done, including Gary Nolan, right? At Akama Humanoid. Right. Remember that? Remember how he said it was a malformed child. He said it was a human. It was a hundred percent human. He said that the day before the premiere of Greer's documentary, so we just kneecap that documentary, then about a year later, he's on stage saying he doesn't want to be definitive about what it is. Nolan said this. So initially the day before the premiere, he says it's human. Destroyes a documentary. A year later, essentially, give or take, he's on stage saying he doesn't want to be definitive about what it is. So thanks for kneecaping my documentary, when you don't actually know what it is, that's how I'd feel if I was Greer, right? Saying they're like, "Dude, you literally said it was human." And now you're saying, "Oh, I don't want to be definitive." And then he moves over to TTSA's Academy. Including what we're talking about. Yeah, no, dude, I'm telling you right now, right? That Greer might not be correct, that he was. causing the biggest population growth in uofology, bursting out into the mainstream Netflix documentaries, trending number one for literally months, right? Unacknowledged when massive millions of people saw it. So I think that when you're looking at the national security state and the people within it, Lou and these guys, before they were public, going like, you know, what do we do about this guy? He's getting so many people not only involved in interest in uofology, but he's presenting it in this is a criminal cover-up and it has been a crime against humanity for 100 years. You know, the technology's been held back from us. These are illegal, unconventional programs. They need to be, like, this is dangerous, right? Like, this is like pitchfork moment for like, if enough people get riled up. What do we do about that? Like, we're, we're, we're spooks, we're spies, like, what do we do? We can't go on Netflix documentaries. Well, thank God a rock star decided to walk in, right? To the national security arc. So, thank God Tom DeLong just walked into Lockheed Martin, which is what he did. Do you know the story about that? Like, how this would happen? Yeah, like so, so Tom's always been obsessed with uofos. Right. He's a UFO guy. Blink 180, rock star. Obviously, he has the money to gain contacts and connections. So he had people within his roster before he was a UFO dude, like, publicly. And he spoke about this in, in an interview. I want to say it was like a fade to black interview 2015, 2016. And he talked about how a friend of his in Lockheed Martin called him up and said, Hey, we're having a family and friends meet in greet at Lockheed. Would you like to come and introduce the bosses on to the stage? And we, you know, we'd love to have you as like this kind of guest appearance. Yeah. And at this point, he'd already formulated to the stars academy in his mind. Yeah, this idea. Yeah. And suddenly this olive branch kind of got presented to him by the Lockheed guys. He's like, I will, but I want 10 minutes with your bosses afterwards. And he was like, OK, all right. I'll see if they'll agree. They agree. You coming? Great. All right. So he turns up. He goes to his family and friends meet and greet. He introduces the bosses on to the stage. And then he gets taken into, you know, a room. Of course, he has to go through what he describes as corridors with white noise, playing and armed guards, like layers of security, you know, all this kind of stuff until he's eventually in a room with the leadership of Lockheed. Skunkworks, all these guys, right? And he presents to them at this point to the stars academy of arts and science. He even goes in quite a level of detail in his interview about how he's like, I know you guys are struggling. Like, I know you don't know how to present this. And I know that it's not all your fault. And he was kind of being very kind of sympathetic to the need for secrecy. Right. And he was kind of being very confident about it, saying, I know certain things. Like, I know what you're dealing with and what are some of the conversations you feel you can't have. Let me help you. Let me be the conduit through which you can tell the public. And this is how to the stars academy happen. Suddenly, he's connected to Luis Ando, Christopher Mellon, Gary Nolan, howl put off, Eric Davis, Jim Semy van, all of these different people out of the national security architecture, just pour into to the stars academy. Suddenly, the New York Times gets activated out of fucking nowhere. Right. Leslie Kane, Ralph Blumenthalon, 2017 TickTack, Navy, videos come out, released through Christopher Mellon, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, the balls just roll in suddenly so fast. Greer is left in the shadows to the stars academy is now the spearhead of disclosure. And that's been the case from here on out, right? TTSA might have fallen away. But this was the initial lily pad through which they jumped into the public. Start with TTSA. That's crazy. And then they moved into various things, you know, through other. And TTSA is pretty weird as well. And they're trying to get their shareholders to invest in the company, promising to release an electro-gravitic platform. They had that UFO concept that they had on their website that they were going to build one day and selling a lot of fake, you know, big stuff. But yeah, like this whole thing started with TTSA. But I truly think if you take it a little bit further back, TTSA was a response to Greer. Here's this rogue guy out there just laying out this really controversial narrative that's going to piss people off. And we don't have a way of doing anything. And then suddenly a rock star with all the influence you need comes in and he didn't, and he says this himself. He said, I went there to be of service. You've got to approach these people as if you want to be of service. And I said, like, you know, I'm, you, this is your situation. Just use me as the channel through. So he basically just went into the lion's den and was like, use me. Use me. And it's like, oh, thank God. Like this is the only way that we can actually change the narrative. Boom, narrative change. That's right. Barkers. Yeah. Dude, I'm telling you, this is what happened. They infiltrated the whole subject because it was getting out of control. And someone was going to go viral with some stuff that was going to get them in trouble. And was going to cause audits in the wrong places, probes in the wrong places. Now they can control the narrative. Fuck the Atticamish humanoid. That's way too early. Even the Nascamami stuff, they're very resistant about that. That's why a bit suspicious. Even Gary Nolan was very resistant about the Nascamami stuff. So I feel like they've got an agenda and a step-by-step process of what they want to release, how they want to release it, how they want to package it. And yeah, Greer was certainly not a part of that packaging. Now again, I don't think Greer is some sort of like shining light of truth. Right. But if you just observe the chronology of what was happening, what I've said is objectively true. Right. Yeah, it's a, it's just a hornet's nest of truth and disinformation and misinformation and, you know, people, like we said earlier, people trying to make money. But like, you know, again, like one of the things that should basically tell you that all of this whole quote-unquote disclosure thing is bullshit is that the guy James Clapper is like one of the people behind you. Yeah, let's just praise Clapper all of a sudden. You know, you know, like one of the biggest liars in the history of the government. Yeah, again, I mean, and yeah, and he was the other one that like Kurt Metzko was like laughing over and like, Shuma, was it Chuck Shuma? Oh, maybe. Oh, like, yeah, like finally disclosure with trust Shuma. I was just like, you know, like finally he's like, you know, reliable. Right. It was just funny because yeah, we're being told to suddenly trust people that objectively have a receipt track record of not being trustworthy. You know, and then it's like Louis Luzando, like I brought us up on Joe Rogan. The dude has shown multiple images of the public that have been debunked in less than 24 hours. Yeah. He even had held one up in a congressional setting. The, the fields, right? The two fields. Oh, it's a UFO hovering over. No, it's not like 100% proven not to be within less than 24 hours. And it's just like, what is this guy? Even even from the angle of like, oh, he's a counterintelligence agent that's been sent in to disrupt the narrative. It's like, but he's an idiot. Like, I mean, that's not, like I am suspicious of him and I don't know what his true agenda is, but I don't think he's even been sent with some like official mission like that because you're screwing it up, bro. Like, you know, getting debunked over and over again. Like this is not intelligent behavior. Well, he might, he might, they might have been something initially where he actually had some sort of a task to muddy the water or something, but it's possible that now he's been like, let go and now he's just trying to sell just drifting and trying to sell a bit of, yeah, I think so. I think a lot of these guys have, I've been given some level of official narrative engineering kind of, you know, operational mission, or they're just trying to make a fast book or maybe both at the same time, you know, kill two birds of one stone. If I'm going to be a propagandist, I might as well get rich. Right. Exactly. One of the craziest things, though, that like goes to tell you, I mean, bar, you know, without even mentioning all the money that's gone missing from the Pentagon, like it's really like $2/3 of a trillion. Black budget. That Romshell talked about before and I love it. Absolutely. Yeah. Like that probably, you know, people like Catherine Fitz, who followed the money say that that probably all went to like black budgets before, you know, because they couldn't disclose any of it and they needed a place to launder it. They probably just deemed to launder it. I think it was, I think it was, I learned it through the Middle East invasion, which cost about 2.3 trillion. Seriously. Oh, really? It's an equatable amount. So it's like, yeah, it'll be honestly laundered a whole bunch of that through the military industrial complex via the invasion. Yeah, that's possible. Yeah. But like the story of that guy who hacked NASA, the Gary McKinnon guy. Oh, Gary McKinnon, you can guy allegedly, you know, he doesn't have any proof of it, but he just tells the story about how he hacked it and he saw this like the cigar shaped object. Image slowly rendering and it became this like cigar. I would think nothing of that. I think that guy's full of shit unless you, you know, actually come to learn that he was one of the US's most aggressive extradition campaign since Julian Assange. Margaret Thatcher fought hard to get him kept in the UK. Like, you know, yeah, yeah, like it was the whole thing. So like they were trying to put him in prison for like, in the fucking dungeon forever, bro. So like that says everything. I mean, hacking NASA, you know, he might have, you could say he just hacked NASA. Maybe he made up the story about UFOs. Right. So obviously any conventional hacking of NASA is going to get you in serious trouble. But I actually have listened to him. I don't think he's lying. I don't personally. My meter with him doesn't go off too heavily. So, you know, I'm willing to believe that he did see some images of things that were weird for sure. You know, NASA's covered up a lot of stuff. There's that woman, Donna Hare. She was one of the witnesses for Greer back in 2000. She was the one who worked at that building that he tried to hack, right? Yeah, what I think so. And she was the one that said that they were airbrushing UFOs out there. Yes, exactly. Before they went to the public, another very interesting witness that he had was Carl Wolf. You remember Carl Wolf? Is that the moon guy? That was the moon guy. Yeah. So there was shit on the backside of the moon. You know, he, he, he seemed like a sweet man. He seemed sincere, man. Like, like, actually genuinely sincere. Like, I don't know. Like, maybe he wasn't. But truthfully, when I heard his testimony and the way he was talking, it sounded like a guy that was really nervous about what he had been exposed to. What it should have been exposed to? So he was like a really quite high classified access tech nerd, right? Like a computer hacker and like one of these guys. And he was sent to a NASA facility or was it? It was either NSA or a NASA facility. He said it was very strange when he arrived there because there was a lot of international people, which is not normal. And he said it was like, you know, those like Chinese and Korean. There was all sorts of different people there, which he found to be quite strange. And he was, he was there to repair something in the photograph the laboratory, right, like the red room kind of place. And he He was in there with another like a private, like some low level private who was just guarding whatever it was. And he said that this guy looked agitated and seemed a bit weird. And when the CEO left to do something, this private said to him, "By the way, we found a base on the moon." And he was like, "What do you mean?" And he said, he immediately thought, "Well, Russian or Chinese or something like that." And the guy pulled out this mosaic from the drawer and showed him. And he said that there were towering spires and what looked like satellite arrays and huge structures. And he said, "I immediately knew that I was not supposed to be seeing this." And I became quite frightened because I knew he was not supposed to be showing me this. And there was on the far side of the moon. Did he say it looked like modern type stuff? He said spiraling structures, what looked like satellites and domes and things. But I don't know if he said modern, but he said satellite arrays. But he seemed so sincere when he was saying it. And that's all he didn't expand into anything else. And then he died. I mean, some people say it was weird because he got run off the road when he was on a motorcycle by like a truck or something and got killed. Not long after that. It was actually like 12 years after that. 12 years after that. Some people still like to invoke him being murdered. I don't necessarily think so. Things happen. I think he was a really sincere. If people want to look up his longer interviews, Carl Wolf, he, yeah, he seemed like a sincere guy. I think there's some weird shit on the moon. I wouldn't be shocked. It's weird that it just continues locked around us like that. It is such a weird thing. You're just going to stay like this, don't you see all the chances of us having a moon that is like, creates that exact distance between us and the sun where it has that perfect, it's literally Goldilocks. I just Goldilocks for life. Like, there's like fixed level. All the top astronomers, they're not aware of any other planet that has that sort of ratio between its moon and its star. Yeah, I looked into that. We're the only one that we know of. So there's definitely something weird about the moon. Something weird going on with that. Have you seen, there's a, oh, what's the, what's the film called? Have you seen Moonfall? Moonfall? Yeah. Moonfall. That's good. You know, I watched on a flight. It's kind of about the moon being a mega structure. Oh, really? Yeah, you know, the finding out the truth of what it really is, and it's a really good film, actually. It's worth watching. It's got that guy from Game of Thrones. It's the fat one. Oh, really? Yeah. The one that's on the watch. Is it like a documentary type thing or something? No, it's okay. There you go. It's just like, yeah, Moonfall. Oh, okay. Moonfall. Definitely worth a watch. Just because like, you know, sometimes they sprinkle a little hint through Hollywood, and I thought it was quite well put together actually. Yeah, they do. There's a lot of truth in the Hollywood shit. Yeah. This guy is like a conspiracy theorist who manages to figure out. That guy from Game of Thrones, he figures out, it's like, you know, this mega structure in NASA doesn't believe him, and eventually they find out it's true, so they bring him on the team. It's great. What do you think the true story is about the Apollo missions? Oh, man. Like, you know, I truly do think that we were presented with doctored or actually fabricated video. And then they did go. But the video's for real fake. Yeah. I mean, it's Joe. Coming is ridiculous. Some of the stuff that you're seeing and like, you know, the way that they're moving around and it doesn't look real to me at all. The problem with that kind of stuff is it now looks so dated, right? Like at the time, it looked very sophisticated, but now we're like, that looks like a film set and it looks like they're just acting. But yeah, I think they went. I do think they went, but they didn't record it for us, like, you know, whatever actually happened. And, you know, it's weird that you've seen the interview with them when they first come back. Yeah. With the whole press conference. Yeah. Weird, right? Like the mood. They're the whole. They're weird. Like sad, like they're just kind of like down and depressed and like very like, you know, it was this. It was like, you just come back from a fucking moon and then the press conference before they were very excited. Right. And then I have to say that one, one of the weird things about it was one of the journalists asked about, like, you know, the stars in the night sky. Yeah. Coming with which one responded. But you said it was just black. There was no stars. But every other astronaut said that it's a whole mosaic of stars. So like, then the Valet Van Allen radiation bell and like, you know, like things like that. And it was like that NASA astronaut, the little video of him going, oh, I'd go back to the moon in a nanosecond. But the problem is that we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again. Right. What? They actually recorded it over the tapes. Yeah. I know. So there's so many weird points with the moon as a classic. I think that they went. I think they probably have seen things on the moon that they can't explain. I think it's very interesting that amateur astronomers with 4K cameras can now film on the moon a pretty high resolution. There are some weird amateur videos out there, you know, of little objects moving out of creators. And there's movement. There seems to be movement. I don't think they're all fake videos. There's some very compelling videos from just amateurs online, literally filming, you know, with a 4K camera through a telescope, a very high power telescope. You can get really good footage of the creators now, you know, it's going to get to the point I think where people will just objectively see that shit's going on and maybe we'll have to talk about it. I want to know how they can think they didn't go. I want to know how they actually went. Yeah. Like through the radiation and everything. How they get through the radiation belts, how they, how they do it on the first try. Oh, maybe they had classified alloys and materials and ceramics that they don't disclose to us. Like, you know, we, they have them now who's to say they didn't have some, you know, very classified material that they didn't disclose. And it's like, oh, yeah, no, we can't build the technology bag now because we can never show you publicly what we actually used to get up there, but, you know, here's the Apollo toy that, you know, with this heat shielding, that's how we got up there. I doubt it. I doubt it. I'm sure there was some other methodology deployed because at the same time, we're talking like, you know, less computational power than what's in my phone for the entire mission. Yeah. I have my doubts about the conventional story of what you've got there is what I'm saying. Right. You know, and, you know, the film made it back. Yeah. And how did the film not get damaged going through that radiation, you know? So the geopolitical importance of being Russia, that can't be dismissed because this was incredibly important. Spotnik was now in the sky. We need to do something. And the Russians are going to get their first. We better get their first. Like, you know, like the idea that this was a propaganda piece because we had to beat the Russians shouldn't be dismissed as a possibility. Right. You know, right in the middle, right in the middle of JFK getting waxed. Exactly. Watergate, the Gulf of Tonkin. Yeah. MK Ultra was happening. Like, that is the most bat shit crazy. Holy shit. I mean, history. Yeah. Like, you know, we've got some pretty crazy times right now, but that one's in competition. For sure. In competition. In competition. You know the whole, like, in social media during those days. Oh my God. Yeah. Like, 100%. You know, the Marilyn Monroe thing with her and JFK and the released cable where I was talking about a wiretap on her. No. Oh, dude. That's a fascinating little document because the CIA document, I mean, it's disputed. Uh-huh. This is a hoax document, but it's actually a very compelling and a lot of people would say it's a real document of a wiretap on Marilyn Monroe because she was having an affair with the JFK. Right. She was sleeping with both of them. And she was apparently going to organize a tell all conference, uh, we're talking about information arising from her trists with the Kennedy brothers, as it's like said in the, in the document, um, about aliens and space and things on the moon, and it was like a whole thing about various things that she was going to say, and, uh, it was, um, it was the wiretap. This document was produced 24 hours or 48 hours before she died of a drug overdose in her apartment. No way. Yeah. And what's very interesting about that document is I did a little video on this. I actually connected it to a program, um, God, what was the name, man? It's like a PowerPoint presentation. So many PowerPoint presentations in my head, trying to remember all these, look at the mail in the program document. Yeah. Marilyn Monroe document. But I'm, moon dust. Moon dust. Moon dust. No, no, no. I'm just thinking, I'm talking out loud right now. Okay. Okay. Um, um, the Marilyn Monroe Kill Garlin wiretap document is, you know, again, disputed, but what's very interesting about it is I went down another separate rabbit hole, which then connected me to that document and I was like, Oh, shit. This might actually make it like undeniable that it's real. So I found a project, a program called moon dust that started in, I want to say the 1950s. And there was a series of programs connected to it, Operation Bluefly and Operation UFO, like literally just UFO, but they fell underneath this moon dust program. And it seems like moon dust might have been one of the first recovery and technological exploitation attempts potentially bleeding into the UFO world. Oh, really? It was originally presented by the government as a Russian and kind of foreign technology exploitation program, but underneath it included UFO as a category of interest. And then I'd seen this call Garlin Marilyn Monroe document years ago. I'd never notice on that document it says moon dust. It has moon dust printed onto it as a project as a PROJ project, colon, moon dust. No, and I was just like, no, if you can find the document, bro, um, the actual Marilyn Monroe one. It's like actually an image on the reddit, like just on the right hand side. Why does Google AI always have to go with the CIA and they can never know, go against the CIA? CIA controls it. Moon dust. Oh, wait, punch in on that and pictures, pictures, Steve, though. Looks like Arabic. Go up slightly. There you go. Oh, look at that. Yeah. Moon dust right there. August 3rd 1962. Dude, I got so excited because this was a separate research thing. I was just jumping down this moon dust rabbit hole going, oh, there's a real documented project that involves technological exploitation of foreign technologies, right? and this was a serious project that came out of the same Roswell squadron that was doing all of the UFO investigation for Blue Book. So this is 100% public conventional cover, cover, cold war, technological exploitation, something underneath that. And the fact that MoonDust is printed on a cable wire tap document about a UFO tell all conference from Marilyn Monroe, 48 hours before she dies of a drug overdose is wild. Yeah, primary mission to locate, recover, exploit, fallen or deorbited foreign space debris, satellites, and aerospace hardware, such as Soviet block spacecraft and rocket fragments that re-entered Earth's atmosphere. Formerly established around 1961. Okay, ask it this, what's the date this document came out? There's no single project MoonDust document. I did a video deep dive on that. But rather a collection of different declassified military and intelligence records that have been released in waves over the decades via Freedom of Information Act. The timeline of the most prominent documents is November 3rd, 1961. The date of the original foundational Air Force letter, the official established the roles of the intelligence team supporting projects like MoonDust. November 3rd, 1961. If you go on my YouTube channel real quick, it's not even that far off the uploads that I did recently. And just the intro, because I just do like a quick flash intro of like. Like on videos? Yeah, dude. So just go down, keep going down. Yeah, sorry, go back up. I found the UFO legacy program evidence, everyone missed. Go ahead and use those flashy tiles. Is it in the intro? I always roll my eyes at my own tiles. Yeah, it's just the intro. Okay. Just show you like a kind of flash of like the various documents I found. The screen is to you. Bufferun, do we have Wi-Fi here? I found a trio of legacy programs from the Cold War era that provide the most tangible, publicly available evidence for a legacy, UFO retrieval, and material exploitation effort that was hidden underneath conventional Cold War operations, the retrieving of unidentified flying object debris in the Congo, explicitly stated in declassified documents, even tying into the death of Marilyn Monroe and her connection to the Kennedy Brothers. This is a smoking gun for the UFO community. I'm talking about Project Moon Dust and Operation Bluefly. Yeah, unless like just just give people an idea these things connected together to this Marilyn Monroe document and I just find that very interesting because it's always been a contentious document like always it real is it not. The fact that that project name, which was completely unknown at the time, like still classified at the time of the release of that Kilgarland document, that to me is very interesting because how could people even know to invoke Moon Dust is like a conspiracy thing? It wasn't revealed at that time. So how is it on there? If it's forced to date Marilyn Monroe's death. Yeah, I swear it was like literally within a couple of days of this wide-time man, because to be fair, Greer is actually the one that first may be aware of it. As in his unacknowledged documentary, he brings up this Monroe document and highlights it. I've never seen this in my life in 1962. Right, 1962. Oh, wow. Yeah, it seems like she was genuinely getting very deep into a world that she didn't understand with the president and the brother and she was going to say everything that she felt was needed to be said and she died. You know, I'm pretty sure they killed her. Have you heard of the connection between Sharon Tate and the aerospace UFO stuff? Oh, I actually know. No, she's the one that got killed by the. But Charles Manson's followers. Yeah, no, I don't know that. on CLO Drive. So apparently her dad was like a general who was connected very closely with one of like the top guys that I want to say like. Was it Wright Field? Was it the classics? They in Ohio or like. Yeah, Wright Patterson. Wright Patterson. Wright Patterson Air Force Base, who was allegedly connected to some like Black project stuff. Oh, man, okay. I don't, I'm horrible. I don't remember all the details of it, but Walter Bosley was telling us about this connection and like allegedly, I don't know. There's some weird deep connection. Like was it strange scenes in Laurel Canyon or something like that book or like weird scenes in Laurel Canyon? I think weird connections between like, you know, military and intelligence and the celebrities and. Yes, yeah, yeah. I've never heard some part of this before, but I've never deep dived into it. But I mean, Charles Manson's another rabbit hole to kind of go down. Oh, yeah. He's all about and, you know, who he was actually connected to. Yeah, the whole Charles Manson story. So I actually, I was just at this museum in Vegas. Okay. And they have the ashes of Charles Manson. What? And he has like the, the row or the, like the gown, the hospital gown that he had to wear when they killed him. On the bark. And there's like blood and like shit stains on it from when he died. Like they kept like this guy, this guy who owns this museum, he just buys all this crazy shit and puts it in his museum. And it's like, he's got the most haunted object on earth. It's called the dibic box. I think I've heard of that. Yeah, it's supposed to be the most haunted object on earth. And apparently it has this like ancient Israeli. Yeah, it depicts a Jewish demon, Jewish demon inside of it. Yeah, it has a holocaust victim or something like that. Who was that fucking guy? Who was it? It just only popped into my brain super elite. Yeah, there's the dibic box. Oh, who was it? Who's the guy connected to the webstein? How was that? Victoria's secret. Oh, Les Wexner. Les Wexner. Pretty sure it was Les Wexner. There's like a piece on him, like a Times piece, like a finance. Oh, I've seen that. What he says, he's controlled by a dibook. Oh, yeah. He says he's controlled by a dibook, bro. Yeah, so what is the actual, what explain? What it actually is the story of what's in this dibic box? So Post Malone went here and he accidentally touched the thing. Oh, shit. And then immediately afterwards, like within 30 days afterwards, his jet almost crashed. Oh, my God. He got T-bone in his Rolls Royce and his house got burglarized while he was in it. God, dude. Inside the dibic box, it's a vintage wine cabinet. But what is the story? Background and context. Yeah, yeah, the hoax. Oh, they're calling it the hoax. The entire backstory of the militia's Jewish spirit trapped inside this antique cabinet. It's always a hoax. Was revealed to be fictional, creative writing project and a hoax fabricated by this guy. The traditional folklore is the actual Jewish folklore. A dibic is a restless or disembodied soul that clings to a living person rather than an inanimate object. And Trishnam believed does not include trapping of spirits inside wine boxes. Well, that makes more sense for Les Wexner invoking his dibic as part of the. He says he's grateful for it. He's like, it helps me or like, you know, I have a part of me that's a dibic. Yeah. Okay, Les Wexner. All right, that tracks. Yeah, that tracks. That tracks. No, no rest for him, though, okay? No rest for. He's still out there. Yeah, still out there doing his name. No, he's fine. Dibbicking around. Yeah, he's fine. No problem. Yeah, no arrests at all. Nope. In fact, people like Howard Langs are going to remain in power and in the presidential administration, even though they were just caught outright lying about their whole connection to Epstein and all that. I can understand why people say, oh, you know, the UFO subject and other things are just a distraction from stuff like that. Like, in all honesty, I would prefer disclosure on that. Oh, yeah. Before UFOs, I think we need to get our humanity back before we think about extending humanity out. So maybe we need to actually look at things like the corruption and poise and closer to home sort of thinking about space aliens for a bit. Yeah. You know, I think that's more important. 100%. Then we can talk about other things. But yeah, you know, I'm the world. Fucking scares me, though, bro. Like, you know, I've dived down into that world a little bit and like, you know, kind of dip my toes in. And then I'm like, so wait a die, isn't it? It's a good way to vanish real fast. Like, is this is real? Not that the UFO subject is real. Of course, it is. And there's like threads of reality in it. But this is like the beating heart of the corruption. Like, this is the active way that they keep power. Blackmailing each other, you know, all of this. You keep talking on that thread you're gonna die. Yeah. You know, and a lot of people have. Oh, yeah. You know, some famous people as well. Some pretty well-known people have died. 100%. And not just people who try to expose it. But like, people, like hundreds and thousands of people in other countries because of all the wars that these people start. And they're just profiting off these things. Yeah, exactly. It's a very. These are the most evil people that exist in the world. Like, if you want to believe in demons, then there's the best example of it. Like, that's demonic behavior to me. And so, like, you know, I've gone down that path. And, you know, one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Well, I've seen a lot of weird stuff. But one of the weirdest things I've been exposed to. Have you ever heard of a guy called Malthy Buddha? No. He was a very, very good researcher who started focusing on pizza gay, it's all that kind of stuff, right? And a bit like Stephen Greer, he was the one guy that was getting like two, three million, four million views on his YouTube videos, where he was doing deep dives into a pizza gate, but real deep dives. Actual, not bullshit, QAnon conspiracy, but linking together disturbing connections between very powerful people who were still alive, still powerful, still active. And, you know, he was gaining traction. Once he did like a two-part piece on Tom Hanks and a couple of others that got like, you know, three, four million views, He lost his. YouTube, he lost his Twitter, all of his major platforms went down. I also discovered that I couldn't send his links to videos and DMs on X for a while. At the height of him being de-platformed, the links just died, like literally just died, failed to send every time, but other ones didn't. He got completely de-platformed, he's still kind of active, but this is the weird part of the story. He got de-platformed, he's operational on bit-shoot, right? So he's got videos on bit-shoot, you can still find the Tom Hanks videos. It's called Pidogate, his videos are called Pidogate, not Pizzagate, and they're very good, but I got him on for an interview. I wanted to talk to Malfi Buddha, I was a fan of these things. That's just like Malfi Buddha, Malfi, like Malfi. Spell the last name? Buddha, B-U-D-D-H-A. B-U-D-D-H-A. Yeah, like the Holy Buddha, Malfi Buddha. And so like, he, I had him on signal, I had his contact on signal from a couple of years back when I first reached out and established the level of communication, just to say, like, dude, massive fan of your stuff, you know, your crush on it, this is crazy, what you're finding. Hey, we're reached out for an interview. And I had him on audio only, because he's never showed his face, no one knows his name, I don't believe. So we had like a, you know, just faceless interview. And whoever I talked to was not Malfi Buddha, like, it sounded like Malfi Buddha, sounded like the guy's voice from the narration, but he was now a complete Christian Bible basher zealot, who contradicted everything he was saying previously, said it wasn't true, said, no, no, like every time I was like, but I got a second man, like, you've done, you've done deep dives onto like the Catholic church and like the elements, like, no, no, no, like this is, no, no, please, I would like to lead you in a prayer. I just want to lead you in a prayer. And that's all he wanted to do was pray to me and like, talk to me about Christ and talk about parables and a Bible quote, like fully just like a, that's all he wanted to do. It was a radical Christian. He wasn't that what he, dude, I genuinely worried about Malfi Buddha, like for real, like PSA, like, I'm worried about Malfi Buddha, because this guy was like fully at the tip of the spear of like, finding out things that concern me about the apex of power. And now he is completely different. And then he like went on a weird like, like, like, went off on me on X and like, saying, oh, he, he was afraid to post the interview. So I responded, like, dude, I wasn't afraid. I was genuinely like shocked at who you are now. And I like, you know, quote, repo, like, it was all public me saying this and a lot of people like, well, you should post it. Yeah, I should, but I, I, it's like, yes, hopefully it's still there on Riverside, should be in the digital archive, because I actually hung up on him. Like, I was just like, I can't, yeah, no, I was like, dude, I'm good. I smoke a giant. I've fucked this. Like, I'm not doing this. I can't sit here and listen to you preach to me about, you know, different parables in the Bible. I hear that enough on my YouTube comments and whatever. Like, you just sound like one of those classic people in my YouTube comments, who's screaming quotations of the Bible at me is some sort of point. It's like, this is not who you were previously. We're talking articulate, logical, very creative with the editing. Like, he was very, very good and very open minded and thinking logically and critically, not who I met on that interview, dude. So like, you know, that worries me. I feel like that, that to me is like someone who got mind swapped. I don't know how to explain it. It freaks me out. And so like, I've dipped into that subject and it kind of like, it's like a judgment thing. It's like, you should really, like, if we're, if we're aware of it, we really should be pushing on it. But there's like a level of anxiety, the creeps that you're spying sometimes when you're looking at some of this stuff, like these are the most powerful people in the world, man. Like, gee, really, are you going to make a difference? Or are you just going to vanish off the map? Like everyone else? You know, it's weird. It's scary stuff. It is weird. And it's also weird to me how, like, suddenly you're allowed to say anything you want on X and YouTube. And it almost gets pushed more opposite of what it was like amplified, amplified, especially like, yeah, I mean, like, you know, racism is on the rise for sure, like real tribalistic kind of, you know, racism is on the rise and extremist opinions, radical political opinions. And that's the most viral most dramatic. It gets encouraged a little bit, too. No, that's what I'm saying. The algorithm favors it. You know, you, you can tell. I mean, like, do you know what's weird, dude? It's like over the last six months, because my, my X, I've got shit, like, 340,000 followers, something like that. Over the last six months, right? Everything has scaled up. Likes, reposts, comments, everything scaled up. But the impressions have gone down. Like, radically, like, I'm looking at posts that I did like a year ago, whereas like, you know, a thousand likes or like, you know, 500 reposts, 2.3 million impressions. I'm looking at ones now, are like 7,000 likes, 2.3K reposts, 250,000 impressions. It's like, how does that even make sense? It's like, everything's gone up apart from the, like, the algorithmic exposure to, like, the, the rest of the world or something. It's very weird. And I feel like there is a lot of fuckery going on with the algorithm in terms of what it's prioritizing now, especially over the last six months to a year. It's really leaned into that political tribalism, and especially about my country, you know, at the time I come to America, people ask me the same fucking question. Right. Is it really as bad? Is it really that crazy in the UK? It has bad, and it's like, no, bro, it's actually not. And people want to talk to me, but maybe because of my accent sometimes, or what do you think I live in, like, some such cottage castle or something, I live in a counsellor state. By the way, that is English word for ghetto. I live in a poor area. I live in a working class town in a poor area. And so you can't tell me that I'm in an ivory tower, that I'm not observing the reality of my country. No, I am. We have problems, of course. There is massive immigration problems. I'm against uncontrolled immigration. I'm not some bleeding heart liberal who's woken doesn't have any idea how the world works. Like, of course, that's a problem, but it's being amplified and elevated online to levels that are not real. And a lot of the time, you'll see, like, old videos, like, I had it out with Alex Jones, like, because he was posting, like, a video of, like, leads a riot in leads from, like, 2021, and saying immigrants have invaded leads. This is happening now. Police can't even control it. It's like, dude, this is a completely fake post. This is an old video. Do you say, John? Yeah, I commented, like, a big thing, like, saying, like, you know, this is a completely fake post. Right. This is an old video from a, like, a normal riot about something that not race-related. So there's a lot of, there's so much misinformation. Yeah. What's frustrating to me is there's a real problem, but then the real problems being inflated to some level online, where you've kind of got two things happening at once. You've got the liberals who don't believe any of it, because it's so ridiculous, you know, the overinflation of it. And then you got, like, the other side that truly just believe every element of it and think, oh, so it's completely third world in the UK now. Right. So the actual middle ground nuance, God, can we get nuance again? Can we have nuance instead of tribalism and everything being black and white? And if you have one opinion that goes into the left, that means you're now left. Or if you have one opinion that goes into the right, you're now right, like, that's so stupid. Can we have a bit of nuance and the nuances? Yeah, there's problems, but these problems are not being accurately represented online, especially people like Elon Musk. He's out there, like, quote, reposting all this shit that's just like, that's old. That's not true. That's outdated. And so like, why are they doing that? What's the agenda here? What is the reality of it? I think that they want race war. I think they want civilizational collapse in strategic places. Yeah. Maybe it is, like, the whole great reset, you know, build back again, like, make it all different. The whole globalist agenda. Maybe that really is what's unfolding. I don't know, but it's not natural. It's being engineered. It's being pushed. And now with the algorithm and the AI, my God, it's like, you know, hyper accelerated, right? Every day just post after post making you more annoyed. Keep people distracted. Focus on the culture wars. Dude, like, I have to make a concerted effort, you know, because it's like, I'm scrolling through my timeline. I see a post. That annoys me. You know, like, oh, I'm getting aggravated. Oh, I'm getting tense. Yeah. No, I agree, actually. Oh, you know, reform UK. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then it's like, hmm, back up, bro, because you're not actually some stupid racist idiot. And I'm not. I've got friends all over the world. I love every color and creed. If you're an asshole, you're an asshole. Right. You don't matter what color you are. But, you know, I also don't think that you should just be flooding a country with people that are not respecting that culture and tradition. So, like, you know, can we have nuance? Can we not appreciate? Yeah, we want your best and brightest. No, we don't want to be diluted culturally. These are two things that can happen in the same space. We're in a very nuanced, very black-and-white polarizing time, man. Yeah. You know, I get accused of being a woke snowflake and a mega racist. Within 24 hours. That's so. Like, within 24 hours, because I've got nuanced opinions. That's the social media for you, man. And a lot of them are fake. A lot of the biggest shit talkers, you go to their account, they have like 30 followers. Yeah. They're not real people. I know. And like, I keep myself every time I lower myself to the point of actually responding and getting some spat, you know, like someone would just annoy me enough. I'm like, now fuck you. And it's just like, well, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. It's just, it's just fuck you's all the way down, right? Just fractal recursive self-similarity. We're in trouble. Like, you know, it's an echo chamber. It's scary and you've got to really keep control of your mental health and your cognitive health. And like, I try and take breaks from X and, you know, I make money on X's. There's no way of denying that that's one of the revenue stream. And you get paid more of the more interactions that happen on your post. So it's like more of an incentive for people to do that. Oh, dude. And like, you know, every day I'm posting and like I'm posting things that interest me. But of course, like a part of that is I want it to go viral. I want to make a bit of money because that then fuels my documentary filmmaking. Right. Like, it's all like, you know, flowing into what I do creatively. But once you start making money off of it, it's like with YouTube or anything, you know, you then balance it. And I'm sure you know this, like you balance that fine line of being genuinely interested in wanting to pursue the things that you love. And also like, oh, well, you know, okay, make money. Oh, I want to make a little bit more money or I could make it. And it's like those two energies can sometimes be very contradictory from each other, right? And it's kind of getting that under control and being like, right, well, it's not about money. It's great that that's happening. And it's good that I can have opportunities. But it is about genuinely being curious and wanting to try and get this kind of information out there to people and articulate it. Money is the result. Money is a good work. Yeah. And I think that we live in a weird time. And especially with these subjects, I think you got a lot of people that consider it almost like spiritually corrupting if you're suddenly making money on UFOs and stuff like that. And it's because we have so many grifters. Like everyone is suspicious. And they and they should be. So once you start making money, I get them all time. People think I'm a grifter. They call me a grifter. They call me a piece of shit, whatever. You know, like it happens. Once you start scaling up, I'm sure you have your haters as well. Right. People that want to throw all their arrows at you. And it's hard to keep going when that happens, man. You know, it's hard to balance those energies. I think a lot of people get lost in it. Yeah. I just don't, I just don't really do it. I don't, I never engage on X with anybody or YouTube. I engage so much. Maybe that's my problem. I've got like, like, severe mental health issues now. Seriously. Like, I mean, I say this all the time, like, you know, a lot of, a lot of guests worry about the, about negative comments. You know. And like, my thing is the way I look at it is I've only left maybe two comments on YouTube in my entire life. And they've only been like, Hey, man, great video. Like, this is cool. Yeah. Or like, you know, I thought I'm on, like I'm a friend, someone else's podcast. Like, thanks for having me on. I've never actually spent the time to write a negative opinion on something like that. You know, and I wonder what kind of person would, would do that? Because I, I don't know, I just can't, I can't put myself in the shoes of somebody who would do that. Yeah. I understand X, X is more of a conversational thing. Yeah. But YouTube is another level. No, YouTube, I don't really like, I'll read my comments sometimes, and I'll like, you know, reply to a few people, but I don't really do that on YouTube on X. It's very, it's very different because it's real time. It's dynamics. Someone's in the comments. You're like, I don't like that comment. If I've been opinion on something, I'll say it here on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, it's funny is like, I think I've built like a love hate thing with people, I think, because a lot of people actually appreciate that. I will just say stuff. And on X, like I've said, some pretty, you know, quite controversial things, I guess, and in terms of like how people view the UFO subject or even like the, why did you political like ecosystem and I've, you know, said things that a lot of people agree with and a lot of people don't agree with. And I mean, that's always been me anyway. I've got myself in trouble for doing that, you know, kind of just speaking out when maybe I should have kept quiet. But that's part of my personality. And so I think some people genuinely do seem to appreciate that. Other people kind of go like, oh, you know, Jay's like really combative and oh, so much for project unity. Like it shouldn't be cool. You know, I hear that so much, dude. Like it really frustrates me because he's like, it's not about that. Like it's really again. So it's larger than like, you know, individual spots. And of course on social media, like it's very combative, you know, and maybe I should, I wear my heart on my sleeve a bit. I'm an emotional guy. Like it, you know, I wake up in the morning. I read something. I'm like, you know what I mean? And then I look back at my, I really shouldn't have done that. Even if I ratio him, which I always do. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's just kind of like, it's a very weird landscape on X. I do spend probably a bit too much time on there. But it is also rewarding. And it allows me to do much traveling. And it allows me, you know, that is one of the ways in which I can really kind of finance myself is for you. So I'm grateful for it at the same time. My crazy conspiracy about what's going on with social media, particularly with X is that they're trying to take off the guardrails of free speech on there right now. So they can sort of build some sort of a model around all the users so that when they eventually do put down some sort of totalitarian fucking lockdown like China and combine it with digital money and digital ID and try to do like minority report pre-crime shit, they're going to use all that data to sort of put you in a box and control you. So what you're saying is that social media is the, is the kind of surface level facade for what is actually a data scraping operation. Yeah. A huge level scale. Because I remember when Iran did doge. Yeah. But I think he did or what, not me, but smart people I've talked to think he did is that he was installing the grot or he was doing grock and pal, he was, he was, he was verifiably pal partnered with, uh, uh, Palantir's AI when he was doing that. So installing their AI in in these organizations, like he wasn't, he wasn't weeding out waste, fraud and abuse. He was going into the HHS, the IRS and the social social security and getting all that data and consolidating it so that AI can scrape it all and monitor all of it. And now combine that with social media and then suddenly enable payments on platforms like X and then bring in all these stable coins with this genius act. Yep. And now you have, you know, all these fucking new satellites that are going up with like satellite logic and the data centers and all that. I think they're trying to create some sort of like crazy totalitarian type police state, new world order of some form of order that's new in the world. I don't know how to, how to say it without being. That's my tutorial. But like, yeah, dude, like, I mean, it literally, you've heard of the dark enlightenment. Maybe I have. I don't, I don't even know enough about it to speak confidently. It really annoys me because I've got a friend who, if I could just transport him here, talks brilliantly on it. Um, but people like Elon Musk and a few others, um, that he connected into this thing called the dark enlightenment, which is kind of about how you build power in a world that relies on in the top scale of, you know, elite level manifestation of intent and how you control the world through that and your shadow self, the Carl Jungian shadow self and allowing that to flourish. It's just like an ideological position that seems to be adopted by a few of these tech giants. And it's referred to as the dark enlightenment, but yeah, do some research on it. It's something that was flowed out to me. But yeah, there's, there's an agenda. There's an agenda. You know, it's not the old school agenda. It's not the, it's not the illuminati Rothschild, whatever the fact that my base, this is a new thing. See a new flavor, new kids on the block, right? You know, the tech guys, the private sector, they've got more of a vested interest in control over space than the governments do now. Oh, yeah. All of that, all of that government money is going private. Yeah. Like, all the NASA money is now gone private. And, you know, somewhere deep in the intuition, we seem to know this because every sci-fi that's in the future, it's some global corp, right? It's always some global corporation running pretty much the entire world private sector, running the entire world, governments gone, universal credit system. Maybe we seem to have higher than any nation state. Yeah, it's probably going to go that direction. You know, who knows, maybe it's smooth out, but I don't trust the people running it. So that's the problem is like, if it's, if the architectures being erected by people that I think have got compromised morals and we're already starting a problem. And I'm not the only one who feels that way. A lot of people don't trust these guys. We're fucked. Bring on the alien invasion now. Yeah. I'm ready. Bring on some blacks, one event. Let's go. Maybe to reset the economy. Bring interest rates back down. Carrington event. Carrington event. Like, just reset the electrosystem. My rule just like, you know, crossbows. I was talking over the weekend. I met some guys that live in Maui and I was asking them about the Maui fires. Oh, and they're like another thing. They're come not convinced. They're they're completely with the whole like directed energy weapons. Yeah. So burning and moving and entire people out. They don't believe the power line story. No, no, no, no. Dude, like the whole thing's weird. And like police cordoning off areas to completely jam traffic up and prevent escape. And there was so many strange stories. Children who have never come back. You know, this is another thing as well. Is I think that when you're talking about the child trafficking element of the elite world, using disasters as a way to traffic children is perfect cover, right? Because who's going to suspect that that's what's happening when you're just gonna have a bunch of kids burn up in the fire, didn't they? They're going to burn the ground or earthquakes, swallowed them up. It's actually a really, you know, good opportunity for trafficking at that point. So that's another thing that a lot of people say they swooped and installed people's children. You know, the real estate, like the land rights being like changed. There was I can't remember the exact thing. But when it was all happening, I was kind of keeping my finger on the pulse of it. And there was that there was that law change in Hawaii to like completely change the land rights about two months before the fires. Yeah, you should look into it like it was it was a thing like because they were protesting this. There was a whole bunch of protests about like land rights being exchanged so they could be bought out by like foreign assets or some strange exchange of rights that happened before those fires took place. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's just and you know, when we got these hurricanes here, a couple years ago, we had crazy hurricanes here in Florida that like fucking decimated Florida. Yeah, and you know, there's also those floods too. A lot of people here thought they were like CIA hurricanes like because or like black rock set it up because like all of a sudden all the real estate got super cheap, especially the waterfront real estate and like these big corporations like Blackstone were buying up all this houses and stuff like that. But it's like Caroline, you know, when Carolina go hit with that incredible hurricane to like broke over the ocean and came into the land and then got stronger as it came into the land and contradicts how they even meant to behave and they got flooded out. It wasn't even that long ago. It was like what last year when it was like major, major impact on color. Yeah. Yeah. And those people didn't seem to get any help. Like there was like so many videos from people saying like we're not getting any assistance from the government. They was left to fucking drown and die in the houses, towns destroyed. And then there was like all of this talk about mineral rich environment and like this particular precious matters in those areas. So again, like it's easy to invoke a conspiracy and people can say, oh, you know, you shouldn't. But it's because we live in a world which is so untrustworthy and so much proven conspiratorial content already given to us. It's like white trust, a single thing. Yeah. And in regards to weather manipulation, we've been doing that since Vietnam. Right. Operation Pops. And so like, you know, the idea that they haven't scaled up that technology is also a bit of a weird one to me the idea that it's a Funny kind of like all come on what they can control the weather, right? Yeah, probably probably can. They probably can of course they fucking weather You know, it doesn't seem irrational when you actually know the history of things like weather manipulation and how it's been deployed in active combat theatre in Vietnam So you know, and the the Saudis do it all the time. Oh, yeah, purposely making the clouds eating in on a chair Aluminium particulates being seated and stuff like so yeah, like the idea to that hasn't been weaponized and scaled up in 20s-26 like come on guys Yeah, they're f**king weaponizing everything And I'm not buying all these doomsday narratives that you see every day like like in the news they'll have last couple days about this reason stuff country three-day Prepared in our country. We just had something we're on as well. Yeah, Japan is the one that freaks me out a bit though Bro because Japan's a bit more sensible and they don't really seem to get involved in all of the That's true. And they do seem to care about their people. Yeah, but is that really coming out of Japan media? I believe so Like Japan actually issued like a nation-wide please prepare like three days at least survive like the same message is being echoed Like it happened across Europe and there's just reporting that Japan did that but do have we actually seen the Japanese reporting straight from Japan? See if you can pull some fun up. Maybe I see it's interesting as the actual media has been pushing that because I saw a trend Yeah, I mean, you know, the story was that Japan issued and along with a few other Countries the viable preparedness is survival preparedness. Yeah, it definitely happened for for like at the military bases like for a black Bragg and for hood, but it was like for like 60 to 90 days or something It's just all of a sudden happened and also I think we've the UK's currently got three out of its four nuclear submarines out in the ocean Which usually only has one in rotation. So there's three out there right now. Yes, Japan is media and public institutions heavily Feature disaster preparedness known as Bosa. No, this seems more general. I don't think it's referring to what's happened Just now it's kind of just saying yeah, they have a they have a culture of that. Is there a specific what did you type in? Well, it's like within the last like literally within the last two weeks or so that you know, you've had recently. Yeah, like recent Japan recent Japan is pronounced a nation-wide disaster. They go click on that or at least go down to November. Yeah, it's releasing a campaign officially scheduled for November 2nd, 26th, considing with opening of Japan's new disaster management agency. Right. So this is very similar to what's happening in the UK They have households. This is from Facebook some Japanese page on Facebook. Households are urged to keep a minimum of three days worth plus Yeah, so they are being said. Yeah, they are echoing the same sentiment as what's happening in the UK EU US It does make me wonder like, you know, I don't want to um You know kind of jump on the fear porn bandwagon with all of this stuff because I agree with you I'm like all of the doomsday stuff like it really is tiring look all the bankers are still buying houses What exactly look at the economy like like keep an eye on actually like that's the way to look at what's really happening Right the movement of money keep an eye on the star percent keep an eye on what what's happening in the economy. You'll see really where people are preparing So Catherine Fitzgerald shown us yesterday how like all of the stock market is basically consolidated onto these big AI companies Right now and like how this bubble like so the AI bubble right now is like almost double what the dot com bubble was Yeah, right these are the early 2000s rather And like if you even buy like S&P 500 stocks, which are like a consolidation of all the top stocks on the stock market They're like very you like click down into them and you realize they're all these big tech stocks So like even if you're someone who like doesn't want to invest in like fucking Lockheed or like all these companies Or like all these AI companies are you know, especially going to end the world Like you can't help it. You just you just put on the stock and you're automatically funding in that. Yeah, yeah So like you have to actively go away, you know get like pickers around that It's actually like a monopoly on the stock market is so stacked completely stocked against for those people for those companies like that Yeah, yeah, but I got a piss, bro. We just did three and a half hours now. It's fucking awesome man I've got a piss as well My throat's starting to get a bit sore Tell people about your webs or about your YouTube channel and all your videos Yeah, yeah, I'm terrible because I do everything on my own So I don't really have a whole bunch of social media. I should be on tick-tock Instagram and all that But you can find me on X at the project unity and you can find me on YouTube at project unity. That's pretty much it Oh, yeah, I do documentaries. I travel around the world to very strange places Have a you know focus on ancient history Consciousness studies the UFO subject have interviewed so many different spooks and spies and government people So if you want to check that out got that as well And I still do it, but I'm a bit more focused on ancient history now um, and yeah, you can find me at those two places appreciate a subscribe and you can check out my patreon links in the description box And I appreciate anyone who wants to check out check out my stuff. Hell yeah, bro. Yeah, dude. We'll link it all below All right, again, man pleasure Danny. Good night. Great