4 Ways to Avoid Your Professional Decline

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The truth is that we really enjoy our careers, whatever we're going to add, not just because we enjoy the work day today, but we like to see ourselves getting better and it's just abject torture when we're not anymore. The world talks about going up, the world doesn't talk about coming back down again. Your decline is inevitable, your misery is not. Because you can actually get better in a new thing if you choose the right thing. How do we do that? I want to tell you, or things to do. Hi friends, welcome to Office Hours. This is the show about love and happiness, using science and ideas. I do the show as a matter of public education, I hope you're finding it useful and maybe entertaining as well, and especially hope that if it enriches you that you'll use it to enrich other people, you'll take the ideas, make them your own. And share them with others, or perhaps pass on this podcast so that we have more listeners. 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If you want to go deeper on these ideas or you just like a little bit more over the course of the week, this podcast comes out on Mondays, but on Friday mornings at 8 o'clock Eastern time, you will get, if you like, a copy of my newsletter. It's completely free. It'll come to your inbox. You can get that. You can subscribe to that at orthobricks.com/newsletter. It's not the same thing as in the podcast and it starts with a bunch of my corny jokes and who wouldn't want to miss that. Well, today I want to talk about a phenomenon that I've heard about again and again, from people all over the world, successful people, strivers, go getters, about how life changes and they don't quite know why, why in the middle of their careers, they don't know what to do with themselves, why things that used to feel satisfying no longer are. This is not just burnout. People are kind of casting about when they didn't think they were going to. It's a sense of insecurity at a certain part of their lives and it's very, very common. In point of fact, I've experienced that myself when I was about 50 years old. I was the chief executive of a big non-profit in Washington, DC, a think tank, a public policy think tank dedicated to better policy and economics and national security, a famous place. It was the height of my career. It was the best thing I'd ever done. It was a dream come true for me professionally. And I'd done it for a while. I'd done it for six years at that point and I recognized that I didn't know what I was doing. Well, sort of emotionally, I didn't have the same drive. I didn't know if I wanted to keep doing it, but I didn't know what I wanted to do. And that really put me at loose ends. I have to say because I never felt anything like that. I'm an extremely ambitious and driven person and I'd never had a lack of linearity before. I was asking my wife and anybody who would advise me, "What's wrong with me?" I don't feel the drive. I don't feel the fire in my belly. I don't want to go forward. I don't want to go back. I don't really want anymore. She didn't know how to help me because who knows what the heck I'm talking about. And I had an experience on a plane that actually led to a real epiphany for me I want to talk to you about, which is how you can get your mojo back at any point in your career. And no matter where you are in your career, even if you feel like you're burning out or losing interest or just generally losing steam, there is a new act in front of you and I'm going to tell you how to find it. Now back to that airplane story because that story is one that I started a book with that I wrote in 2022 called From Strength to Strength. It actually initially appeared in a big essay in the Atlantic that I wrote in 2019. Now that wasn't all the way back to when I was 50. This was looking back on it. But that article where I talked about this subject, starting with the story that I'm going to tell you now about the amount of the plane wound up being one of the 50 most red articles from all periodicals in the world in 2019. What does that tell you? It's not just that I'm some sort of special writer, not. It's that this is something that people are dealing with. I tapped a vein and the book that came out called From Strength to Strength in 2022 did as well. Back to the airplane. I was thinking about this kind of midlife on Wii and at the time I was traveling a lot I still do. I travel about 48 weeks a year right now and I was traveling maybe a little bit less than that but plenty and I was on a flight on evening flight from LA to Washington, Dallas. I was living in around Washington, D.C. in those days living in Maryland and it was going to land around 11 o'clock at night and so it was sort of dark maybe an hour before we landed. I was tapping away on my laptop and I overheard a conversation in the road behind me and now I wasn't trying to eavesdrop that would be pretty industry but I have to tell you I'm a behavioral scientist so my laboratory is overheard conversations. If you're confessing to somebody in a Starbucks line, your best friend you're waiting for coffee and you're talking about you having your heart broken and I'm in front of you, keep your voice down because that might be my next book. Anyway, so this conversation is clearly between a man and a woman, I could tell other voices and I could tell other voices that they're elderly, you know how you old people sound, the cadence of their voice, the tone of their voice and I'm kind of figuring that they're married, you'll see why. Now I can't make out his words, they're sort of muffled but his wife's voice is really penetrating coming right through the seat so I can hear the answers. He says, oh don't say it would be better if you were dead, now they have my full attention as a behavioral scientist. This is getting real and then he goes rumble, mumble, mumble and she says it's not true that nobody cares about you anymore or remembers you. So I'm kind of putting together a little portrait of who these people are. This is probably a guy who is not most of you who are watching the show, strivers, ambitious people, working to make your dreams come true, trying to get an edge in life, no, he's probably somebody who kind of let a lot of pitches go over the plate without a swing and now it's near the end of his life and it's too late to do important things. Maybe he was a high school teacher and got retired and was unappreciated or something like that. I mean, it just sounded like somebody who was just disappointed with the way that his life went, made sense. Anyway, so their conversation ended and I went back to work and 45 minutes or so later we landed at Delas Airport, Washington, the lights go on and we all stand up and I turn around just to kind of get a look at the sad old guy, just to kind of put a face to the voice that I've been hearing and it turned out he was one of the most famous men in the world. Every single one of you watching the show, you would recognize who this person is and you probably admire this person as well. This is not just a famous, you know, politician or something now. This is a real American hero who with a relatively small group of people changed the course of American life some decades ago and I heard, I mean, this is somebody I've admired for years and I accidentally heard him telling his wife that he might as well be dead because everything good that happened to him is in the past. I mean, it's unbelievable. As we were leaving the plane, they were like right behind me and people were recognizing him and as we passed the cockpit, the pilot was standing outside, you know, saying, you know, thanks for flying United folks like they do, but I'll talk like Chuck Yeager for some reason. He recognized the hero, the man behind me on the plane and he said, sir, I want you to know that you've been my hero since I was a little boy and I turned around and he was beaming with pride. I thought, so which is it? Is it this one or is it the one an hour ago? But it has selfish thought, I don't want to be that when I'm old, decades from now. I don't want to be on a plane next to long suffering Mrs. B saying, honey, I might as well be dead. Everything good that happened happened to the past and that's long since done. Nobody remembers me or loves me anymore. I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't want it. You know, I want something good and new. I don't know what it is. And she said, huh. She asked me who it was and I told her she was amazing and I said, yeah. And then she said, so why don't you? you study this? I mean, you're a behavioral scientist, right? It just says, "Why don't you use your PhD for something authentically helpful?" You know, I took some offense of that, but that's a good point. And so I started looking into this. What can I do? This is a 50 years old, to move into something that authentically uses my talents that I'm deeply interested in, maybe for the first time in my life, that gives me a new breath of air, a tall drink of professional and personal water, what I needed the most. How do I do that? Is it possible? Well, the answer to that is yes. I think I cracked the code. I'm going to tell you whether you're 30, whether you're feeling like your first career wasn't what you thought it was going to be, and you don't want it, but you don't know what to do, whether you're 45 and actually feeling a little bit of bird out, whether you're in your 50s, and what used to be easy is now hard, and you don't know why, and you don't like it even though you did. If you're one of those hinge points in your life, this episode is for you. Now, let me start this whole research exercise, where I always do as a social scientist. I want to know what I can do to get happier as I get older. That's fundamentally what I'm talking about. So, let's start by taking a level set. How happy in general are people at different ages? In other words, as people get older, do they generally get happier by the normal progression of time or unhappier? I ask my students that. My students are on average 28 years old, and I ask them that to vote. Do you think you're going to be happier or unhappier than now? Now, like 95% vote happier. They're optimists. It have to be given their level of student debt, and it kind of makes sense because you know, my students are MBA students at Harvard. I mean, they got a great future waiting for them. I've seen the data. They're going to make a high salary and have great jobs, and most of them are going to like their jobs for that matter. At 38, they should be happier, they think, which is why they vote. Yes, I mean, those who vote no, I don't know what to tell them. And then I say, what about 48, 10 more years? And they say, most of them say, yeah, happier, because more of same of all these good things are going to happen to me. And then I say, what do you think about 78? And almost everybody thinks we're going to be unhappier when it's 78. And I ask them, why? And they can't answer because it just looks like fun to be 78 when you're 28. And then I show them the data. Now, what they think is that their happiness is going to go up and up and up and up. And it's going to flatten out. It's going to come back down and get out and down again, which is a pretty depressing story. So what actually happens? And the answer is the opposite. There's a ton of work by David Blantt flower at a Dartmouth College, who's collected data on how happiness changes through the through people's lifetimes. And for most people, not everybody, but most people is a very strong empirical regularity in the United States, Western Europe, South American, Asia, Subterran Africa. He's got data from countries all over the world. We're very unhappy in some ways, but not this way. It actually is the opposite of what my students think. Most people gradually decline in their happiness from their early 20s until their early 50s. Just a gradual decline. And again, for those of you who are regular viewers of this show, you're probably figuring out that that's nothing to panic about. Or remember, happiness is a combination of enjoyment, satisfaction, and meaning. Enjoyment is an immediate happiness phenomenon. Meaning is a long-term happiness phenomenon. In your 20s and 30s and even 40s, life is sort of declining and enjoyment for lots of reasons. The house, you know, the mortgage, teenage kids, God forbid, you know, all that stuff is hard. But meaning is going up, meaning that's a long-term play. And in point of fact, that comes back around when people learn in their early 50s. Most people from early 50s until like 70 get exceptionally happier. The only people who don't are people with unremediated mood disorders, depression and anxiety, and addiction issues. So if that's you, take care of that. For no other reason, perhaps, then you need your happiness around the sauce in your 50s and 60s. Because if you do, you're probably going to get a lot happier because not coincidentally your teenage kids moved out. Now, I mean, meaning really comes back into your life at that point, which is a beautiful thing. That's interesting enough. But then the plot thickens because around, you know, late 60s, the early 70s, it looks like it's constant then for the rest of your life. You're happiness. But that's an illusion. It turns out that the population breaks up into more or less two equal sized groups where half the population gets happier all the way till death and the other half of the population starts getting unhappier all the way till death. So here's what I really want to know, you know, pursuant to this question that was in my mind at heart and it became really acute when I was on that plane. How can I be in the top branch and on the lower branch when I'm older? What can I do now? So I'm not the old man on the plane. What are the questions that I can do now? So I can go on to something new in my 50s, my new thing. And I, when I'm in my 80s, I can be happy and not sad like he was. Now, it might seem like he should be happy because he had everything he was rich, he was famous, he was a hero, he's admired. Maybe he's just an aberration or maybe something's wrong with the way that he lived his life. That's the research question, isn't it? What can I do now when I'm feeling this discomfort so that I can be happier now and happier later? That's the big question. Now, to begin with, in the research, I had to ask who tends to be in the upper branch of happiness after 70 and who tends to be in the lower branch. And it's not who you think it turns out that successful strivers tend to be in the lower branch, not the upper branch. That's not what the world tells you. The world tells you money power, honor, prestige, admiration of other people, fame, you get that stuff, you're going to be happy for the rest of your life. And it turns out the more of those things that you have, the more likely you are to actually be out of the lower branch when you get old. Why? Well, this is the burden of high achievement as some psychologists have called it. Oh, once again, I'll put stuff on this in the show notes as I always do. The burden of high achievement is actually this. When you are identified as a super striver and successful when you're young, that is going to end at some point. And that's going to be noticeable to you at which point you're going to be disappointed. What goes up must come down. I call that the principle of psychoprofessional gravitation. I made that up because it sounds fancy. The truth is what that means is what goes up professionally must come down. And if you have a big party in your career, when you stop doing it because you burn out or you get worse at it or you have to retire, you're going to be bummed out. And that's exactly what we find from a lot of people in the lower branch of the curve. Look, if you never do anything with your life, you won't know when it's over. You, office hours listener, I know you're trying to do a lot with your life. And so there's a danger on that, which means things are going to change either because they must, because of your health or well being, or because you suddenly can't see your way forward anymore, which is this common, common, common thing that we're talking about in this episode. So what I really want to know is this. And now here's where we're kind of nailing things down. This is how social science research goes. I'm just going to take you into the Sherlock Holmes part of my business. I want to know, again, the biggest part is pretty surprising that the strivers tend to be on the lower branch. What about the strivers on the upper branch? Because there's always some outliers, the outliers who do a lot with their lives. What do they do so they can change as their life changes continue to strive in ways that are especially applicable to their talents and gifts and get happier and happier all the way to the end? There are people like that. What do they do differently than the norm? I found it, and I'm going to tell you, I went through a lot of data sets, so you don't have to, my friends, and I have found the patterns of people who actually do this. To begin with, I want to point something out, you know, if you're feeling what we're talking about, to go back a minute ago to that feeling of insecurity that people have at different points in their lives, either early on because you think you chose the wrong thing or later on because you think you're burning out or even later than that, where things got weirdly hard and you just started hating something you used to like. Those are kind of the three big things that happened in people's lives where they have this kind of crisis. There's actually a lot of research out there that shows that even though nobody ever told you, you're going to have a decline in your abilities and that natural decline in abilities is horrible for people because progress is the only thing that we like. We don't like being at a particular level. We like getting to a particular level. We like to see ourselves getting better. This is one of the reasons that almost any diet can be successful because it's such a huge reward to see the scale go down that you're willing to not eat what you like. The problem is that diets almost none of the work at the end. In other words, you can't keep the weight off. You could take the weight off but you can't keep the weight off because your reward when you hit your target weight is never getting to eat what you like every game for the rest of your life. Congratulations. The truth is that we really enjoy our careers, not just because we enjoy the work day today, but we like to see ourselves getting better and it's just abject torture when we're not anymore. One of the big reasons that we have these painful inflections and our interests has to do with the fact that we sense a change in our abilities. Even if nobody else sees it, we do, and it's like clockwork. It turns out decline, generally speaking, for almost every skill including intellectual skills, they come and they almost always come earlier than we think, and these are the biggest planetary variables, by why we have these crates. crisis. There's the work I'm going to alert you to Dean Keith Simonton, the Emeritus Professor of Psychology at the University of California, Davis. I'll put a magisterial article he wrote in this in 1997 called Creative Productivity, a predictive and explanatory model of career trajectories and landmarks. He wrote that in Psychological Review of Great Journal where he showed that with the majority of intellectual professions, creative and intellectual professions, that you peak 20 years after you start your professional life. You peak and then you start to decline. Now on average, that's about age 3940 for most people because people are like studying their careers and starting to do some work in it when they're college. They peak 20 years later is what it comes about. Now not all of them. I'll tell you about differences between them, but what that means is that if you started a career in earnest because of a couple of fits and starts early on at 30 and you start like me burning out when you're 50 and you don't know why, well, that's why that's an empirical regularity that Dean Keith Simon talks about. Now he doesn't actually give the reason for this, but I'm going to give you the reason for this because we actually know the neuroscience, so why that actually happens for most people. Now two points here. Number one is that decline is pretty inevitable. What goes up must actually come down, including not just if you're Tom Brady, but if you're a librarian or if you're an accountant or you're a lawyer or a surgeon, you're a professional French horn player that what goes up is going to come down again. It's probably going to happen earlier than you think according to the data and that's the second point is that you think it's going to go on and on and on and on and it isn't. The world doesn't tell you this. There's no section in a bookstore in the self-improvement section called managing your professional decline is there no and that's too bad actually because if there were, we could save ourselves a lot of grief and go on to do great things. Actually, that's why I'm doing this podcast and I've written about this before I go to topic. Okay. Now I'm going to tell you why that happens, why the decline and then I'm going to tell you what to do about it. I don't want to tell you about famous, a couple of famous stories or that actually happened and of very, very famous people so you're not alone if this is you if you're like I don't I don't know what I'm doing. I retired early because all my dreams came true but I have no clue what I want to do next or I got fired or my job went away. I don't know what else to do or I'm burning out. I can't focus on it anymore. Whatever. I'm going to tell you that you're not alone in this not even close as a matter of fact. Let me tell you the story of Charles Darwin and everybody knows who Charles Darwin is. If you have a list of the five greatest naturalists who've lived over the past 500 years, Darwin's on your list. Darwin is known for his incredible discoveries and his story is pretty amazing. When he was 22 years old, he was selected to be the naturalist aboard the beagle, which is a sailing ship that was circumnavigating the globe, taking plant and animal samples and sending them back to continental Europe where they'd be analyzed. The purpose of this was to see if there was some evidence they could find linking current plants and animals alive today with the fossil record in which they were different or they different. Where are they different now? Well, Darwin was formulating a theory of this as he was collecting these plants and animals and you already know what it is. When he got back, there was a five year voyage, 27 years old, gets off the boat and immediately drops this intellectual atomic bomb called the theory of natural selection, evolution. He hypothesized that evolution was explained why things changed over thousands or hundreds of thousands or even millions of years from the fossils to today and nobody ever thought about this before. Nobody had ever considered anything like this and this changed science when he was 27 years old. I could talk about what he did to science, but I'm more interested in what I did to Darwin. He became the most famous scientist in the world at 27 almost overnight. He became rich, he was famous. He would give lecture tours all over Europe to pack calls. He wrote books by the standard of those days that were best sellers because they sell 25 or 30,000 copies. Yeah, life's changed. And he was digging it, man, from his early, from his late 20s when he was doing this until about 50, he dined out on this. He wrote article after article and book after book and it did experiment, but then something happened in his early 50s. All his progress stopped. He had the same kind of relationship to his work all of a sudden that he wasn't expecting that a lot of people, maybe you have, when you don't know what to do. It took a funny form as a matter of fact, so what had happened is that Darwin was a genius, but Darwin is actually pretty bad at math and statistics and he couldn't read any languages but English. These are a real liability for biologists, for scientists of any kind as a matter of fact, because the result of it was that his work started a movement of science where young scientists were better trained in these disciplines were, were working on the three of natural selection and doing much more sophisticated models mathematically and statistically and not always writing in English, which meant that he couldn't keep abreast of the literature that he had started. By the way, the time he was 50 years old, for example, there was one key advance he needed to understand that today we now call genetics. He couldn't understand it was written German by a monk named Gregor Mendel and it was highly quantitative in a way that he wouldn't have understood the math. The result was that he didn't get that and his profession passed him by and he felt kicked to the curb. Now he wasn't kicked to the curb, he was still a huge hero. He wrote 11 books after that, but he hated him. He considered them to be just strong, derivative. He felt like a charlatan. He lived for another 20 years, by the way. But he went to his deathbed, miserable, often depressed. He wrote to his best friends, I don't know the hearts to do any science, which is the only thing that I enjoy. He was super burned out in his own profession because he couldn't make any more progress for the reasons I talked about. It's not just you, it's Darwin. He went to his grave feeling like a fake. He was buried in Westminster Abbey where they buried the Queen of England and scientists venerate his grave, but he would have been the first to say nah. 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By the way, he's my favorite composer as a form of classical musician. Early on, Bach, like Darwin, was considered to be the genius of his generation. He was arguably the most famous composer in Central Europe. His life was full of commissions and royalty coming to him and he had an astonishingly productive personal life as well. He had 20 kids, which is productive. And all was well until Bach was about 50 when something happened. And that thing that happened was that musical styles changed, concert music changed, and believe it or not, the musical style and the way that it changed was ushered in by his own son, Carl Philip Emanuel Bach, who was one of the great pioneers of the classical styles, opposed to the Baroque style. Now Bach tried to write in his new style, but he couldn't. He couldn't adapt. It's like someone was always brain. He was like Darwin with genetics. Johann Sebastian Bach couldn't adapt to the new style, couldn't write in it. Now, like Darwin, he could have sort of shook his fist at the heavens and been depressed. But he turned out he did something different. And this is going to provide a clue for us on how to have the normal course of change in your abilities, not ruin your happiness. What happened to Bach was that he just changed his career. He went from being the greatest musical innovator of his age to being the greatest instructor of his age. He took a position in the Tomas Kirchmann Leipzig, where he was the organist, then he was the chorus master, and he wrote in the old style for the lectionary for the church. He wrote church music, which didn't have to be his daring or his innovative. And he became the most respected music professor and mentor of his time. He was a great teacher. He also continued to write text materials, because he was such a great teacher. He was writing a textbook, effectively, on Baroque music, called the Art of Fume, Dikunstefuga, when he died at 65 years old. As a matter of fact, his son, who had supplanted him, Carl Philip Emanuelbach, he wrote in the margins of a piece that abruptly stopped, a manuscript that abruptly stopped, at this point, the composer put down his pencil and died. Like, strong fish. And it was a textbook. So here's the point. Here's the point, my friends. He actually changed what he did. He went from great to decline to great and something else. That was, by the way, it was less remunerative. He didn't make as much money. It was less famous. But it was ultimately even more satisfying to him, which he did tilt the end of his life. He was surrounded as he was dying. I'm not sure he actually died literally with a pencil in his hand by his kids, many kids, many grands, grandchildren, beloved students. And he died happy. So what's the difference? And what does it mean to you? That's where we're going. Now, to begin with, what happened to Bach and Darwin? What happened to the man on the plane? What happened to me? What happens to a lot of you? Some time at these hinge points, where we lose interest and maybe even lose ability. When, as Keith Simonton pointed out, we peak and we go into decline. That's a cognitive phenomenon. That's not a technical phenomenon. That's a cognitive, and that's our brains. We don't think that there's something wrong with our brains at 39. But across every profession that I look at, I find somewhere between 36 and 45 with some exceptions that I can mention in a minute, where your brain is just fine, but what you used to be good at gets harder for some reason. He was what's going on in the '60s and '70s, the great British psychologist Raymond Cattell. He was the man studying intelligence. Now, human intelligence, there's a lot of ways that we know. It's like there's always a lot of news when we talk about IQ and intelligence testing or aptitude testing or SATs. And we talk about that a lot. But really interesting is how human intelligence, no matter how you measure it, actually changes over the lifespan. That's what Raymond Cattell talked about an awful lot. And he had a theory of two intelligences. The one that you have when you're young, which is called fluid intelligence. Now, that's the ability to reason, analyze, and solve novel problems. It relies on working memory, quickness of thinking, and allows you to be really great at what you do. That's increasing that fluid intelligence. Through your 20s and 30s, that's super high. That tends to peak around age 39. In other words, what Bach was really great at when he was young, what Darwin was really good at when he was 39? When I was really good at when I was 39, that peaks then because that's based largely on fluid intelligence. When you're super good at what you do and you're a young striver, you're always maxing out on what requires a lot of fluid intelligence. This reason analysis, solving novel problems, working memory, facility, and quickness of thought. That's what makes you a great litigator when you're an junior associated of firm. It makes you so good at what you do and distinguish yourself from the others or a stock picker or a composer, a video game maker, a coder, whatever it happens to be, not coder anymore because that's AI, but then software engineer using AI, that's what going to make you star is what it comes down to. But it could help recognize and show it in his research. That fluid intelligence is just a first intelligence curve. Goes up and since Maxx around 3940, then it starts back down again. That would be really bad news if that were your only intelligence curve. That would mean that everybody would be just wiping out and have nothing to do by about 50 or 55. Turns out there's a second intelligence curve that comes in behind it. But it's a different kind of intelligence. The hotel called it crystallized intelligence, which is the ability to use knowledge that you gained in the past. This is your pattern recognition. This is your ability to use a vast library. See when you're a kid, you don't have very much in your library, but you can find stuff out really, really quickly. You're good at solving problems with your feral intelligence. When you're older, that ability is less. You're slower, you're working memories, not as good. I mean, a mind isn't. You know, I miss names. I miss all kinds of stuff at 62, but I know a ton. I mean, I can do the show and I'm looking at notes and all that, but I've learned a lot, I've written a lot of columns and books and academic articles and I got a recall because my library is full. Furthermore, crystallized intelligence favors teaching, mentoring, managing other people. So what this shows is that if you want to be happy, and let's just say you're an innovative, high-broad composer in your 20s and 30s and 40s, declining in your 40s, what do you want to be in your 50s and 60s and 70s? And the answer to that is that you want to be a teacher. You want to be the best possible teacher, the best manager, the best mentor. You want to be the kind of person who can say, you see this problem? I've never seen it before, but I have an intuition about it because I've seen so many other similar problems. You want to be able to explain long-haired ideas that would have been too complex for other people to understand when you were 30, when you're 60, you want to be able to explain them in a way that people could understand you. Huh, you know, the truth of the matter is, when I was in my 30s, I was doing research that was so mathematically sophisticated, I don't understand my own papers today. What do I do today? I write, speak, and teach about science for bigger audiences than I've ever had in the past. I'll be able to avoid not scientists. And my guess is that you're following this. I mean, you might have to slow it down to 0.75 or something 'cause I talk too fast, but that's beside the point. I'm actually a much better teacher than I've ever been. Now, here's one exception to this 20-year peak rule for intellectual professions, historians. It turns out that historians, this weird outlying thing, historians tend to do the best half of their research after 65, I mean, in other words, they do half of their work after 65 and the better half of their work. Why? The answer is because history, writing history, is a crystallized intelligence profession. I mean, you got to be kind of inventive, right? You know, I'm writing a new kind of book, but basically you need to know everything about that. That's why Doris Kern's Good When is so great today and when you think of a historian in your mind, you don't think of a 30-year-old. You might think of an 80-year-old, as a matter of fact, they're in the zone for that particular profession. But that's the outlier. More to the point, people were successful in the second half of their lives when they go from the thing that they did so well and then they maybe burn out or realize that they're changing and they go on to something new and they're successful, it's something that's crystallized and not fluid. They do a crystallized version of themselves. That's what Bach demonstrated. A lot of people that find weirdly that they'll step down from their post as some fluid intelligence thing and that they, you know, they're a hedge fund manager, you know, and working in really innovative space. And then they go and they teach a class at the local business school and they find it just glorious and they're really, really good at it. Why? Because they were in the downslope of their fluid intelligence curve and frustrated and they jumped onto the upslope of their crystallized intelligence curve where they were actually getting better and once again they were making progress and they got happy. The truth of the matter is this. This is what the research shows. Your decline is inevitable. Your misery is not. Because you can actually get better in a new thing if you choose the right thing, which is to say something on your crystallized intelligence curve. How do we do that? I wanna tell you four things to do, okay? Now four things to think about. Then again, I'm gonna put the, you know, the book and the article written on this in the show notes so you can get, you know, the comprehensive plan. This is an abbreviated version of it. Number one, you gotta make a jump onto that new curve and a lot of people are really afraid to do that. A lot of people will try to ride that fluid intelligence curve or force it, try to reinflect it and force it back up. Oh, if I work hard. enough that working memory, that problem-solving capacity, that, you know, that edge that will come back. Well, it will come back. Yeah, no, probably not. The happiest people, they jump onto the new curve by finding the crystallized intelligence version of themselves. And so people who are great litigators and law firms in their thirties, they make good managing partners in their fifties and sixties. Better managers is a matter of fact. If you're a start-up entrepreneur at thirty, maybe you should be a venture capitalist at sixty, because that's the teaching talent scout version of that, find the next great ideas. That takes a lot of humility, doesn't it? To dedicate yourself to the greatness of younger people in the fluid delgent space? Yeah. That's a good thing too. So you don't have to quit your job necessarily. What's important is striving to detach progressively from the most obvious earthly rewards that come from fluid intelligence. Even as you continue to work or advance in a career that has changed towards something that is more magisterial, something that is more crystallized. Now the essence of the crystallized intelligence curve is not me, me, me, me, me, it's us, it's you. And that's the second point. If you're looking for something and you're casting about, you don't know what it is. Think about how you can serve others, right? And crystallized intelligence is all about generally speaking teaching and bringing out goodness to other people. And that's a service as a matter of fact. What can you do to find the strengths of other people as opposed to looking internally for the strengths of something that you used to be good at? And that's hard for a lot of people. That's hard when you've been a star to be sure, but it's hugely motivating when you actually do that unbelievably satisfying for so many people. I talked to people who say I had no idea that mentoring others was such going to be such a great thing. You know what? A lot of people who retire will come to be strivers and they'll say, I don't have a retirement plan. Let's just say that they're financially independent, good, and they're 60 years old. They have lots and lots of health and life ahead of them. Great. I usually recommend a portfolio approach of crystallized intelligence activities, mentor to people, sit on two boards, teach one class, you know, put together a portfolio of things that actually do that, and then really develop the thing that you love the most. And you just don't know that yet. And why are you going to love it? Quite frankly, because you're super good at it. But you didn't know it, because you didn't understand your own brain. Serve others. Look for opportunities. Now meanwhile, one of the things that I recommend that actually goes really well, especially for older people, is that crystallized intelligence for some reason, and I've got hypotheses as to why, lends itself especially good toward transcendence, to worship, to an understanding of philosophy, toward deeper thinking. You know, that's really where Bach went. And my Bach was, was I was a pretty religious guy. He was a pretty serious Lutheran. But near the end of his life, he was asked, why do you write music? And he said, the aim and final end of all music should be none other than a glory of God and the refreshment of the soul. At the end of all of his, at least later manuscripts, he would write to the glory of God at the end. Last bar finished to the glory of God. He spent hours every day with his Bible. He was the organist and the choir master at the Lutheran church in Leipzig and the Thomas Kirchner in Leipzig. He got more religious as he got older and found that that motivated him and fortified his crystallized intelligence. It was part and parcel with that. You can probably come up with some hypotheses yourself as to why that would be the case. But it is truly, you see again and again and again that that worship and teaching, serving other people to crystallize intelligence and offering up your soul as you see it. They go hand in glove. That's number three. And number four is to connect more deeply with other people but connect more deeply because once again, crystallized intelligence is about us, not me. And the connections per se therefore need to be cultivated and are more satisfyingly cultivated as we get older. The truth is that this is completely consistent with all the research on the matter. I've talked in the past about the Harvard study of adult development. I did a whole show on it as a matter of fact. I'll make sure that's in the show notes, that link. And I talked about the 90-year longitudinal study that's still going, starting in the late 40s or the late 30s, following men at Harvard and then their spouses and then a sample of guys who didn't go to college and their spouses and their kids. And now it's hugely representative. It looked at what they did over the course of their lives as they got older that predicted being really happy and being healthy when they were truly old, like 80s and 90s. And there's seven things. As some of it's obvious, they didn't smoke or they quit early. They didn't drink to excess or they didn't drink at all. They didn't eat like 11-year-olds and they got a moderate amount of exercise. But then it was got a little bit more interesting. That's the first four. The fifth thing that they did that predicted happiness or wellness was that they had a way to deal with their problems for some it was therapy, for some it was worship, for some people it was journaling. They had a way to do it. They got good at it. Number six was that they worked with lifelong learners, their brains were interested. They were curious people. But by far more than anything else was number seven, which is that they had a lot of love relationships. They generally speaking had good marriages or at least very close friendships and usually relationships with their adult children. That was the big predictor. That was the big swinger and happiness. And this is what Bach found certainly by surrounding himself with his family and students. And that's what everybody in the research shows. Those who actually get happier is they get older. They get on the right curve where they serve others and they surround themselves with family and friends and people that they actually love. That is the important thing to be thinking about. So if you're struggling with this, if you're wondering about the future and you're at loose ends, you don't know what to do and you don't want to wind up like they man on the plane because of course you don't jump to the new curve. At least the new curve, what is it to serve other people, find a way to serve other people. That's probably on your crystallized intelligence curve. Worship, develop your life philosophy, go deeper into the biggest questions and connect with them people in a spirit of love. And you don't have to worry about finding the meaning of your life. That's how the meaning of your life at any stage of your life will find you. Let's do some questions before we finish. Let's start with Frank T. Frank T. Thank you for writing into ovosarvers.northoverish.com. I don't want to sound too desperate, because that was great when things start like this. But what advice would you give us to navigate the rest of our lives without being too needy toward these amazing people we made from scratch? And then a charming way of talking about your children? Actually, Frank, you're talking about your biological children. I have two biological children and one by adoption and it doesn't matter if your kids are the make or buy decision, see I'm a business school professor, you love them exactly the same. And it's the same question and I appreciate your question as well. Here's the thing with particular adult children as your life is changing. The desperate question is how can I get them to love me more? It's always the desperate question. That seems needy. How can I, it's needy in a marriage? Can I get her to love me more? The right question is how can I love her more? The right question about your adult children is how can I love them more? What can I do to love them more? Which by the way, is not necessarily showering them with cash? What can I actually do to love them more? The secret, the paradox of happiness is that we as humans, this is not the paradox. This is an axiom of happiness. We are built to love and be loved. Here's the paradox. To be loved, you love. You give the thing that you actually want and that is most true whether you build who are closest to you. Or I am writing into the website as well. I'm concerned about what I will do when I retire. These are all on theme for today. I worry it will just be cooking and cleaning all day long. I don't think I know what I want to do with my free time and our finances won't allow for much travel. That's fine because it turns out that you're cooking and cleaning and traveling fine. But ultimately there are two things to do as you retire that will be most satisfying. Number one is service because that's on the crystallized intelligence curve whether it's compensated or not. That's just a natural crystallized thing to do. And I talked about that, refer to the episode before. But second is something I've talked about occasionally on the show as well, which is leisure. But leisure is not chilling on the beach or traveling to see the acropolis. Real leisure, according to Joseph Piper, the great German philosopher, is really one of three things, deepening your spiritual awareness, making more profound your relationships and learning new things. Those are the three parts of actual generative leisure and that's the promise of what we can all do that doesn't require that we have unbelievable finances and financial security. And that works in the literature as well, much as making that up obviously. Anonymous writes in, "What is your advice on fair weather friends?" Friends who may have started out as friends of pleasure or utility, that's good Aristotelian language anonymous. Thank you very much. But later on, only show up when they can get something from you, a favor, a good time. So those are deal friends. Those are deal friends. We all have a lot of deal friends, nothing wrong with deal friends, but they don't satisfy. What satisfy your real friends? And so what do we do as time goes on about fair weather friends? You don't worry too much about them. You can turn some deal friends into real friends, but your real friends are your real friends, they just love you. They don't want you for anything else except you, and you know who they are. So with fair weather friends, especially as you're moving on in your life, as you move on with your life. And if they're around, that's great because they're pleasant, but you don't pursue it, that where you put your work into the real friends, you don't put the work into the deal friends, and you will get back what you invest in. That's true in anything else in life. So make sure you're investing in the real and not in the deal, and you'll actually start to sort your relationships. You'll have a portfolio that's paying higher dividends in love. 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