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Tonight, we'll be talking eventually about the Great British Bake-Off baking show. But it could take quite some time to get there. Because this show's about meandering. It's about friendly banter. That barely makes any sense. It's about a calm, comforting distraction in the deep, dark night. Maybe we bring you some sleepy joy and delight. It's about me being here for you. So, I'm glad you're here. If you're new to the show, it is a very, very different podcast. And that's, I guess. Intentional and just natural. I'm naturally very, very, very different. Maybe you are, too. And maybe knowing that's a good thing that both of us are. Maybe that makes you feel welcome here. That I am a bit different. I'm a bit. I don't know. Just different than other people. Not perfectly unique. You know, don't let me get that unique. Don't let me over-unique myself. Speaking of which, I'd like to visit a few new. Unique areas. That's a new thing instead of a park. It's a unique area. This podcast exists in a unique area, too, though. It's not here to directly put you to sleep, but it's not here to be listened to either. And that's what takes some getting used to. Having a podcast that's just a friend in the deep, dark night. So, see how it goes. Most regular listeners say, Hey, it took two or three tries for me to get used to this podcast. So, if you're new, see what happens. What we got coming up is support. So, the paying for the show is optional. Then a long, meandering intro meant to ease you into bedtime. And then later on, to put you to sleep, I'll be talking about Great British Bake Off Baking Show Off to Sleep. Episode three, I believe, in this series we're doing right now. So, I'm really glad you're here. And welcome. And if you're here night after night after night, we could really use your support. To be here. To be here for you and everybody else. So, consider this message or checking out one of these sponsors. Thanks. Hey, everybody. This is Scoots. 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Speaker 1Poster songs. Sounds like an earful. Wrote the theme song. And edits episodes too. Girl W, the legend. Also edits episodes. Ashley, Kenny, Scotty, Jennifer. Run, run, run, run, run, run. Eric and the team at Astound are on the website. I am the mystery bard. I do the lullabies, yeah. I do commissions at Jonathanman.net. I'll write a song for you. Any reason at all. You can tell me the story and I'll make it personal. See the kindness shine straight on through. When the listeners form their own Facebook group. Keith, Stacey, Sarah, Julie, and Jennifer. These are your notarators. Get support, dear scooter, on Patreon. Buy the merch and support the sponsors. You can find anything you want at sleepwithmepodcast.com. And we're so proud that we could dance. Rusty Biscuit, Lois, and I. Banana like banana. Leah does the transcripts.
Speaker 2Thanks, mystery bard. Hey, by the way, if you've been listening to the show longer than a year, we're having a little bit of competition. It ends at the end of September. If you spread the word about the show, be sure when you tag me in social media, you send me a message to the contact form on our website. Let me know how long you've been listening to the show. Because we're going to keep track. We're going to have a party. Are the one years going to take it? Are the two years going to take it? Or will people who have been listening 10 years spread the word? Spread the word about the show more. Well, we'll have a party and you'll find out. And one of those people will get a lifetime subscription to Sleep With Me Plus as a boar bestie. So, pretty good deal. So, get out there. Spread the word. Let me know about it. And be a part of something positive. What do you say we get on with the show? Hey, are you up all night tossing, turning, mind racing, trouble, getting to sleep, trouble, staying asleep? Whoa. Welcome. This is Sleep With Me, the podcast that puts you to sleep. What we do is a bedtime story. All you need to do is get in bed, turn out the lights, and press play. I'm going to do the rest. What I'm going to attempt to do is create a safe place where you can set aside whatever is keeping you awake. Those are the thoughts on your mind. Thoughts about the past. present, the future, you know, think of thoughts that are thinking or thinking thoughts that just appear at bedtime i don't know you know no offense to my great ideas or my not so great ideas but they always seem to appear so what was that idea i just had like during the day that happens i say oh that's a great idea so my great ideas are a bit more like vapor and uh my my not so great ideas or my persistent ideas uh they tend to make it an appearance right at bedtime and they say yeah well we you know you know what they say about the persistence of memory and i actually actually well you are how come i'm not as persistent as my persistent memory which is not particularly persistent at remembering things you're just you have you here's a nice compliment for you though it uh doesn't help me sleep you are very persistent so there is one i've always uh these these are the opportunities we have to discover ourselves right i never considered myself a persistent person i mean unless it was really important to me but i said wow my thoughts at bedtime thoughts are persistent my feelings i could be thoughts feelings related to those thoughts they could just be persistent feelings or feelings about something you're going through you're getting over you're in the middle of rehab coming up uh all those seem to persist uh and yeah i know if i try to resist i can't they do persist uh but it's a bedtime and that's what this show's really about we'll get there but uh could be thoughts feelings physical sensations related to thoughts or feelings related to feelings or you have thoughts and feelings about your physical sensations or all three it could be changes in time temperature routine work schedule you could be in the middle of something you could be getting over something maybe you're traveling maybe you have guests i don't know maybe you work a bit of a different schedule or a lot different schedule your schedule just changed you're in the middle of something tough you have something that's going on you're in the middle of something tough you have something that's going on something tough coming up or you just got through something tough or something really good or that you have expectations about whatever it is the only reason i list any of that stuff is so you get the sense you're not alone and you're not alone with it being tough uh and it getting in the way of the sleep that we want we need and we don't seem to have control over at least the same control that other people do that it's not that just doesn't come just like it does for other people and that's what i'm here to try to help with uh but i want you to know that there's so many people listening right now that are also here to welcome you and welcome you in an indirect way and to let you know yeah they've been through something similar or they've been through something similar or they've been through something similar or they've been through something different but they can relate to whatever it is that brought you here and that they're rooting for you and in the most kind rebellious way possible they are sending you kindness because they don't they might not know you but they know what their relationship with sleep is like right and that they wouldn't wish that on anybody or that they just want to get to sleep tonight because they have to sleep tonight and they have to sleep tonight and they have to sleep something and they've been there right or someplace similar and i don't know that's like the shared part of the show and it's it's very i think a rare thing nowadays to have this shared sense of kindness and comfort that's also indirect uh and it's it comes with very little expectations we're just all here together and spread out at the same time because we've all been in this place and maybe it looks a little bit different for everybody where it doesn't feel so good and not everybody in our life even the people that really care about us can understand and maybe we can't even understand it and we've tried and tried and tried and tried and the more we try and try and try well you know how it goes if you're here so this is the only time in the show i really point it all out so that you say huh maybe i can let my shoulders down a little bit here maybe i can breathe a little bit easier here maybe i am among friends maybe this is the right place here because i know i'm welcome here and uh that other people get it and that like i'm going to tell you and other listeners are nodding along you deserve a bedtime where you could get the rest you need not just so your life is more manageable tomorrow but so that you get the rest you need on a regular basis so you could be out there in the world living your life flourishing our world is a better place with you in it and you deserve a bedtime you don't have to dread a bedtime without rigmarole that you could either look forward to or at least feel neutral about and that's what i'm kind of here to attempt to get to provide uh so that's what i mean when i say i'm glad you're here and that other people are glad you're here and you could feel that comfort you could receive it you can give it or you could just watch it floating on the sky like some sort of northern lights and fog and nice clouds combined together so see how it goes the way this show works is i send my voice across the deep dark night i use lulling soothing creaky dulcet meanders and superfluous tangents so i go off topic then i get mixed up and then i forget what i was talking about then i repeat myself or i talk about something else and i use a lot of filler words and i don't make a whole lot of sense i'm not exactly funny uh and this is uh it's different than what you would expect for a sleeper podcast and when most people get here and i don't know if this is your experience right now if you're new that you're skeptical you're doubtful maybe you're even a little frustrated or disappointed because you maybe you were searching for something to help or someone recommended this show and you had understandably a reasonable expectation what a sleep podcast would be and this show is really not anything like it right now so you're like what is this uh i was looking for i thought this was a sleep podcast but you're just rambling and so that's an understandable way to get here uh i would be skeptical and doubtful too and frustrated because i've tried tons of different stuff throughout my entire lifetime to help me sleep and nothing ever consistently helped other than now having a bedtime routine nothing worked regularly for me and that's why i ended up making this show 13 14 years ago because i was like how come there isn't something that's in between the serious stuff in the stuff we repurpose so if you've been looking for something just give this show a few tries and see what happens most regular listeners people that support the show now on a monthly basis said when i first got here i didn't like the show then on the second try i was like i don't know about this show but then on the third try i realized oh he's always going nowhere oh he always does never make sense yeah all of a sudden i didn't know some podcast a podcast like this could exist or help me but now that i listen i realize i've been looking for this my whole life so just try it and see how it goes and if it doesn't work out or you already know right now for sure it's not going to work out sleep with me podcast.com slash no thank you that's a website i have set up has other sleep podcasts and sleepy stuff on there because everything i set up at this point is still true like it's still you still deserve a good night's sleep and we've all been there uh so we're still wishing you well even if you like even if you don't like me at all like that's totally cool and you just just check out another sleep podcast and see what works uh the other thing that takes some getting used to about this podcast other than me and the style of the show is the fact that it's a podcast if you're a regular podcast listener or you listen to other stuff the idea that this is something you kind of listen to you could listen to but you don't need to that does take a little bit of getting used to not too too much though so this is kind of like an out-of-focus pick-up picture sand passing through your hands a tv on in the other room or a show streaming under your pillow clouds and the sky or like a breeze in the trees you know someone like a roommate or a friend that just goes on and on and on and you have problem paying attention to them after a while but at the same time it's kind of soothing and relaxing like nice water passing through your toes or a professor seminar or presentation or something you can't quite stay awake for uh it's it's something like that particularly times you've repurposed things that are just not interesting to you but they're interesting enough uh to offer that i don't know that level of comfort in active background noise or whatever it is i've done it my whole life uh you that quiet something else down and distracts us from whatever it was that was keeping us awake or whatever it was running running running you know so it's a podcast you don't really listen to it's also a sleep podcast that i've been making since 2013 2013 2013 i guess you could say it either way uh that's not here to put you to sleep this is a sleep podcast where there is no pressure to fall asleep i'm going to be here over an hour so you don't have to fall asleep in 20 minutes or 30 minutes there's over 600 episodes in the free ad supported listener supported version ready to go so even as you become a regular listener you got plenty of stuff to listen to and to choose from because there's no pressure to fall asleep i'm here to keep you company while you fall asleep to be your distraction maybe sleepy joy and delight maybe comfort i don't know maybe offer you some space or if you can't because because the thing is there's people listening who can't sleep at all or who are waking up or who need a break during the day whether they can't sleep at all because the long term or what they're in the middle of right now or they need something to listen to at work or whatever i'm here for them i'm here to the very end whether you're awake or asleep whether you're listening to me or not that's one of the things that just seems to work about the show knowing i'm here to keep you company while you're awake you could listen to me but you don't need to and then i'm just here to keep you company because my job's not to put you to sleep it's to be your boar friend your boar bay your boar sib your neighbor your boar be your boarman your boars your uh boris borloff your chairman of the boards your uh big borbowski your best boar friend forever and just like a real friend would hang up and help you fall asleep when you're having a tough time that's what your boar friend does i can just do it on a more regular basis but all those things take getting used to and then the last thing that takes getting used to if you're new is to structure the show but we structure the show in a way to benefit the most amount of people it can but the great thing about podcasts is it is pretty adjustable so the show starts off with a greeting friends beyond the binary you can't get out of the show you can't get out of the show you can't get out of the show ladies gentlemen boys and girls uh so you feel seen and welcomed in or you get that familiar refrain if you're a regular listener say okay i'm in the right spot or i could check this podcast out then there's sponsors and listener requests for listener support because it does take a lot of work to make the show but also because then anybody can find the show who needs it and keep listening to it when they need it and that is the maximum amount of people uh like that can benefit and if you decide you do you do you uh don't like ads or something you get that there's a bunch of different ways you'll hear to get that but for most people they just listen to the show linearly and it works out uh so then after the support is uh an intro which is a show within a show totally separate from the support that's usually around 20 minutes long where i try to introduce what the podcast is i feel follow a familiar structure every time but i also get mixed up every time i go off topic and that uh means that every intro it gives you a sense of some like reassurance okay this is uh i don't know like uh you're used to it but every intro is different because whatever it is with me something familiar helps but something repetitive does not help my parts of me that keep me awake which i call my brain bots they'll start to point out okay there's the rain on the tent again and then there's going to be a zipper and then it's going to loop uh or that's that same that it i don't even think that part of me is ever even right well that's the same bird squawking no i don't think it actually is like then who wanted to bait me right so having every intro new uh i don't know i've just found it helps with that uh now the reason the intro goes on for 20 minutes is because it's not meant to put you to sleep if for some reason you fall sleep fast or you listen all night long or you just don't like the intros i got great news for you one uh if you do any of those things and you could support the show on sleeping plus it'd be amazing but we also have another version of the podcast without intros you bedtime stories from sleep with me um particularly if you want if you just want the stories it's a great option and that's in every podcast app too but for most listeners and from my personal experience having a wind down routine and having the intro be a part of that wind down makes a big difference in getting for me it works 60 70 percent of the time so you could be like getting ready for bed brushing their teeth or brushing their hair washing their face there's people winding down petting their pets looking out the window journaling doodling uh using coloring books uh or or whatever uh as this intro goes on and there's people getting comfortable uh whether they're stretching or they're in bed uh getting settled down because the intro is kind of the uh the tail end of the sleepover where we're all together we're all hanging out and we know sleep's coming but we we like to have this together time or you could use this you know this show is also individual like uh i don't have a buffer between being awake or asleep it never has it worked for me that it's just like i close my eyes and things turn off you and so that's why the intro goes on and on and on and that's why it's not really designed to put you to sleep fast uh if it does great uh but please uh you know uh i don't know maybe i don't know most people i guess well my point is uh don't fall asleep fast uh so yeah this intro is meant to ease you into bedtime then we'll have some sport and then we'll have our coverage of the great british bake off here and not not too long from now all told i'll be here about an hour and i'm really glad to be here i work really hard i yearn and i strive i really want to help you fall asleep uh so thank you for coming by and a lot of people love working on this podcast uh because we love helping people out that are stuck in the deep dark night and if you come back night after night year after year you fall asleep fast please consider checking out the the sponsors are supporting the show so we can continue to be here for you and all the other listeners who are new who just discovered the show who can't support the show or uh so it can be out there for people in the future to discover just like you did thanks all right everybody it's time to talk about tonight's sponsor helix it's been almost a year since i moved and i've never slept better because when i'm home in my helix i'm comfortable i have a mattress that fits my 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gonna be able to do i know i've been trying different ways to make this as sleepy as possible but uh i was just gonna try to read through it but that's not gonna work so let's go to the tape a bread week uh all right the tape is started and we are running here yeah they're fishing noel and matt are fishing with bread using uh sourdough but it's in a kitty tub it's fake fish don't worry and the fish are talking about that the bread is overproofed then we go to the preview for this week we can see that everybody's a little concerned uh preview of bread making oven watching and things uh then we get the talking heads uh giuseppe's feeling good noel and peru are in stripes different stripes uh but compliment no not complimentary not client well they both look good in stripes we'll say that lord of the loaf they call paul and then they sing a loaf boat based song that's very entertaining and then they talk about they're going to make focaccia regular crumb regular crumb structure finally bread i could relate to with the regular crumb and i did not know that uh outside crusty inside is supposed to be soft it does take a lot of liquid to make a uh uh to make one of these loaves uh and you got poke holes all the way to the bottom by the way i think after the second prove uh you're gonna think it's too much water not poke little dimples as prue says uh and then you can introduce flavors and uh let's see the first fact we want to look up is where giuseppe's from uh which is his hometown is guy guy guy guy to italy oh he's also making his bread with milk and paul says with milk let's do the facts at the end i guess uh what uh both paul and prue maggie uh is gonna use his sun-dried tomatoes and olives which sounds delicious to me that's a very classic focaccia strong bread flavor now lizzie's going uh i forget what the posh i guess it was truffle oil and garlic corn fee great piece of alliteration and we're gonna go ahead and see what we're gonna do with the final furlong which made me look up final account down then um i messed up this guy's name so i was calling him something different in my notes uh but we'll find out his real name but he's making kipper and boiled egg uh focaccia they're like a kipper katcha not like a kipper katcha i don't know man jürgen uh what's his name jürgen's his name cook baking up until like the last being star baker was his game more liquid it's going to be sticky amanda's going to make a meze so it's got olives if fed uh uh something else uh i'm not sure what that is chasing grain bows that's pretty funny that's what she's naming it because it's going to be a little bit more liquidy i'm not sure what that is that's what she's naming it because it's going to be it's very uh not mixed together everything's so that she's like everybody can take what they like if they don't like feta they don't like cucumbers they don't like olives now how long do you prove how long do you do your first proof for us a great question some people 30 some people 45 some an hour everybody's setting their alarms uh and there's jokes uh their countdown counters whatever you want to call them uh george uh he's making a greek inspired uh but he didn't use all his water so smartly he decides to remake uh after paul notes that he decides to remake his dough because paul and prue both make faces about it because they'd already probably done their interviews to be like if they don't use a lot of water they're gonna be in trouble good move uh roshika she's going roast garlic lots of herbs uh and we go into everybody's proof check it's time to shape the dough don't overdo it and uh how long for your second proof right uh 45 minutes uh i don't know 30 minutes how much time do you have uh to prove it fray is interesting this is uh she's doing a fajita flavored focaccia what a holy somebody get trader joe's fearless flyer on the phone fearless flyer freya fajita focaccia faff she says so i'm faffing around she also mentions that uh no looks like wally which us in the u.s would say no that's waldo but uh where's wally because he's wearing a striped uh sweater red and white striped sweater and he's wearing a red and and he returns later with glasses and a hat. Great job on production there. Cristal is doing a roast grapes focaccia. Why not? She says she tasted them somewhere, and she said, what a great flavor. Chiggs is doing cheesy chorizo. Cheesy chorizo focaccia. Which is interesting. Invisible something for Matt. Toppings and dimples. Let's see what this invisible. I think there's like a floating thing in front of Matt. I don't know. Noel's laughing. So, yeah, there's laughter. That's the good thing about this show. Always something to laugh about. So you make your dimples, you put your toppings, your dimples got to go all the way to the bottom to make them stick. George is working on his second bread. So he's going to be, he's like, I got to put it in. You know, I got to jump early. Everybody's watching their ovens. Also made a note that I now have like, well, now I have three songs that I could do about faffing. So if you're a fan of the show and you want me to start doing parody songs, talk about going. Full circle. We have counting crows or not counting crows, or is it somebody else faffing around? I'm just faffing around. Then had a faff. Big and strong and turn around. Now my faffing is gone. And then the five, I guess I didn't even realize this one, the final faff down the faffing final faff, faff, faff down. Maybe just do that faff, faff, faff down. Okay. So everybody just. Starting to take their stuff out of the oven. George is still in the oven cause he's second bread. One final touch is one minute. And, uh, we get done there. And the good news for George is they say he has to go first, but they say yours is good. Uh, it's packed. It's lovely. Could have used even a bit more water, but what a dodge. Cause he would have been in a bit of a pickle, you know, Maggie soft on the top. Uh, decent, uh, uh, decent, if you want decent, right. Uh, and, uh, like the flavor, but, uh, just like a, like a candle burning for hers. I don't know if it's cause it's traditional, like an Italian restaurant, uh, but. But they don't like the soft on top. Yeah, they like the thyme, but decent. Freya smells great. Well-baked, texture's nice. And what a great idea, right? Well-baked, very relieved. Didn't want it to be overspiced. It wasn't overspiced. Shika, garlic, focaccia, tomato, feta, and pesto. This looks like right up my alley. It looks really nice. A little scorched, they say. Too much garlic. Texture's okay. But too much garlic. Would have pushed it in. Put it on top and then pushed it in. And then they make a bunch of jokes about Knoll after dark. Amanda, over-baked. So they say, yeah, it's a little over-baked. The proofer prefers it scattered around, like instead of being everything separate, put all the ingredients together. Jigs, over-baked. Flavors are lovely. So nothing than Cristal. It needs to be thicker. It's open structure. Just too thin. Annoyingly thin. But a great combination of flavors. Fresh because of the grape. Unusual. Then we have Lizzie. Nice top. It does look like a nice top. Fairly equal. All takes a bite. I'm watching them. Lizzie makes a face. Good flavor. Soft. Crisp on the outside. Maybe a little bit more irregular structure. Fantastic flavor and color. But can't fault it much. Juergen, over-baked. And more proving. Less baking. Too tight, man. So Juergen, first time. Giuseppe, really nice. Soft. Proved correctly. Not over, didn't go overboard on the flavors and they really flink about it. They got the focaccia structure and he gets the Hollywood, he gets the old Hollywood handshake. Beautifully light focaccia, get a mouthful, everything in every bite, beautiful, well done handshake. Giuseppe gets tears. He's so stunned. Then we go to Talking Heads, right, we see a woodpecker, some flowers, okay, so next up is our hidden gingham challenge. Paul and Brewer are going to leave the tent. This one's by Paul because, of course, but Paul says, "Be careful on how you add the filling." I thought it was chia batter, but it's a ciabatta. It's ciabatta batter, ciabatta, ciabatta batter, ciabatta, ciabatta batter, ciabatta, maybe they don't even say batter, ciabatter, ciabatter, ciabatter, ciabatta, I don't know why I heard ciabatter, ciabatter, ciabatta, anyway, olive and cheese ciabatta breadsticks with tzatziki sauce. Oh boy, I love that tzatziki. I never had breadsticks with tzatziki. Mostly just had it with flatbreads, so, all right, tzatziki, thought about, I don't know why the movie, oh, Noel says, "What's real or what's a dream?" So I thought about the movie, about the dream movie, Inception, and then I said, "Oh, ciabatta, not chia batter." Scooter. It's a soft, open dough, as Paul says, really nice breadsticks that Paul makes, made me look up stuff about the Olive Garden, too, if you do it wrong, it's going to flop, it's a soft dough, keep the air in, got to be careful, you want that ciabatta, be able to tear it apart like ciabatta, man, and it's got to be full of cheese and olives. Yeah. And hopefully Giuseppe can do it, but Giuseppe says, then they go to cut the shit, Giuseppe's like, "I've never made this before." 600 grams of water, 750 flour, "Oh golly gosh," as someone says, "Juergen's slapping his dough." Chopped or whole olives? People are debating back and forth, should I do chopped olives, should I do whole olives? Lizzie says something I can't quite identify, so I'm going to try to get to it here. In the tape, "This task is a waste of time," Matt says, "Contemplating chopping the olives, Freya is just catching up with us." Thick as a breadstick, if they're too thick, I don't know. Okay, Lizzie says, "Huh, you're right, oh, troll buggies." Okay, I was like, "Troll, what did she say?" She says, "This dough is like troll buggies," which is like the, you know, things in troll nostrils. Okay, how long do we prove for, 20, 60, and then Nola comes in, it's Wally, you got to drain the cucumbers, Maggie forgot her olives, and you got to figure out proving versus getting your food done, basing it. Now, Giuseppe, they say, "Giuseppe, who'd you learn to cook from?" He talks about his dad cooking for the family. Now, people are starting to make their sticks, and then you got to do a second proof in a bag after you make your breadsticks. Okay, so how long should we cook it for? What temperature? 120, well, I think I'll put 120 degrees, so does that 20 minutes or 12 minutes? Put them all in the oven? Some in the oven. Long and long. You know, long and long. You know, short bake, long prove. Long bake, short prove. Was Paul giving us a clue on the last challenge or not? Well, I don't know. We'll find out. Long prove, short bake, Cristal goes for 15 minutes left, 220 degrees. Everybody's like, "I don't know, is that going to be the right temperature or not?" Time, time, time, see what, you know, not time with a Y, though. But, oh, also, Noel tosses a piece of dough at Cristal, and I was like, what are you doing, man? That's not polite. Makes it seem like it was Juergen, but, so we're just shaping theirs, and then we, are we done? Is that? Everything goes in the oven. Tastes good. Oh, yeah. So we go to the judging next. Judging blind. George's up first. Okay, sick. A little bit, tastes good, tears nicely. Freya better, yours is better than George's. Nice layer of olives. Jigs is a lot of air, but it lost its shape. I also like how they're stacked. But, okay. Jigs lost its shape, it's too much air, Maggie, too small, rigid, tight, no onions. Then Amanda, shape's good, neither longer in the oven. Then we have Rojica, pale, flat, and seems like, I think Peru even kisses her, so they're just not done. Paul goes through them all, like they're pieces of leather. Not very nicely either, I'd say. I don't even think they eat them, because they weren't in the oven long enough. Then, uh, Juergen, uh, not the right, not a consistent size, the flavor's nice, though. Uh, does he have no onion, either? Okay. Lizzie. They, uh. Let me rewind it. Actually, sorry. Okay. It's holding its shape. Uh, structure's better. Nice, strong. I like that one. Cristal, underdone. Oh, this is the one she kisses. It's raw. Doesn't, like, it doesn't, it's not cooked enough. Uh. So, they're really, uh, cheeky with, uh, Cristal and Rojica. Then they go to Giuseppe's twisted. Okay. Okay. Let me rewind it, actually. Sorry. Okay. Uh. Structure's better. Nice, strong. I like that one. Cristal, underdone. It's raw. Uh. Okay. But I like that. Uh. I guess. Uh. And, uh. It's effective. Nice color. Uh. And, uh. All right, you can taste the crunch caramelized on the outside. Okay, this is going to be interesting. Roshika's 10, Cristal 9, Maggie 8, George 7, then Chig's, Juergen, Freya, Amanda, Lizzie, and Giuseppe in first. So after that, we go back to the talking heads. Everybody goes back to 10. It's cool because everybody's in sweatshirts and jackets and pants, at least initially. And, okay, so who's not in great shape as we go through the talking heads? George, Roshika, Maggie, Chig's, Giuseppe in great shape, Cristalof, what for? Well, Paul says, what for? Uh, so then the talking heads is looking like, uh, I don't know. I was definitely, I mean, I'm misdirected by this whole, uh, the wrap-up part. So don't ask me, uh, but yeah, Chig's in the middle, I guess. Giuseppe doing good. He's got a nice little headband there. Uh, something to hold his hair out of the way. Can't believe you kissed a bride. They're all laughing about it. Uh, never kissed a loaf. Uh, a muffin. Have you ever kissed a muffin or croissant? Uh, so they're, they're really having a great time. Okay. So this one is a display of milk bread, a, uh, 3D display. Is that this is the showstopper, obviously, uh, themed 3D display of milk bread. So it's got to be soft, light, and tender, slightly sweet, visually strong, uh, smooth milk, uh, phrase using coconut milk powder, I think. Um, and Maggie's, so we go to the people, uh, who's going, doing what Maggie's doing a seaweed octopus, uh, like under the sea style one. She doesn't, she's thinks that. There's, there's a disagreement about how many appendages the, uh, uh, it's just funny. Octo has, uh, so they have a laugh at that. Amanda and Freya are also doing under the sea. Oh yeah. So she's using a vegan coconut milk. I mean, I always think like, I mean, at least at this point in the competition, Freya should be like, uh, I mean, I'm not, I would rank her in the top of three. Yeah. Um, top four. Four, maybe. I mean, definitely. But like the fact that she's making vegan should jump her up to like two because every time they're like, this is great. Uh, don't over mix it. Uh, and then they go to, uh, Juergen and he's making a baby. They're like a baby food style. You're doing a baby food style one. What? Like a baby, like a baby toy to, uh, prove, prove. Prove you can. Yeah. And then I'll prove like, I don't know about that. He goes, well, you can eat the toys. Uh, they're going to be stuffed with stuff. Uh, so they have a lot of jokes about that. Uh, how long can you prove it for 90 minutes? At least person, one person is so Freya's got, let's see if, oh, Freya also to try to see who's stronger Freya or Noel. Um, but Noel seems very tall, which gives him more. Like a lever cause doing like an arm competition, you're against very loud with his bread making, uh, which is interesting. So you're getting in the baby food business, uh, baby on board as the Simpsons, uh, would sing, uh, or when they were in a barbershop quartet, George is doing a koala, a 3d standing up. Quad. Well, most people are doing laying down, not vertical and he said, yeah, this did not work. Uh, other times I tried it, uh, so good luck then. But, uh, they say, I guess stagger your brakes. Uh, a lot of people are using post-it notes. Uh, Cristal is doing a Sunday roast, a themed bread display, which is like, huh, that's a pretty good idea. Uh, Sunday roast themed bread display, Lizzie's doing a, uh, bbq, uh, using some condensed milk, uh, and she says she loves condensed milk in her coffee. I don't know if that's considered posh or not. Definitely a lot of work, uh, well, so I don't, you know, they say about me, I don't know my evaporated milk from my condensed milk, uh, but they say you're more of a, if you're more of an evaporated milk. Uh, not condensed, but I say, well, what's like, uh, they said really once condensed was evaporated and I say, well, I know I realized that's what's on the tin as it would say on this show, but, uh, condensed milk is more syrupy and evaporated milk. Uh, I think I, I don't know which one usually if I'm purchasing one, it's the wrong one. I say, okay, I gotta make sure I pick up some condensed milk when I'm at the store. I'll definitely be buying evaporated milk, uh, and if I need evaporated milk, I'll be buying condensed milk. Then suddenly I say, okay, I need that, which we need the opposite of what I have four of. You say somehow you're 0 for 4 and buying correct tinned milk, uh, okay, breadstick, oh, Lizzie's gonna have breadstick hands, Roshika, uh, Maggie figures out the right number of appendages. You say somehow you're 0 for 4 and buying correct tinned milk, uh, okay, breadstick, oh, Lizzie's gonna have breadstick hands, Roshika, oh, Maggie figures out the right number of appendages. You say somehow you're 0 for 4 and buying correct tinned milk, uh, okay, breadstick, oh, Maggie figures out the right number of appendages. Uh, Lizzie's up next. Well, her gourds look really good. got some time in the oven made it look like it's supposed to look like a BBQ overall design is clever he dropped a bit she got mango tea flavor here she talks about her pet Susie Susie on ice going skating more or less texture's light Paul likes it tastes it, thinks about it I like it it's like perfumed and I can identify like so instead of she took a risk they're happy with, pays off jig's not bad, well proved and they started this, oh this is fluffy it's well made, light so great work orange blossom flavor good design Maggie is kind of abstract they're just laughing see it doesn't look like you used four and a half hours she goes well I did it was four and a half hours work for me underproved no flavor so again it was confusing for me because they really made it look like it was a wrap on Maggie just like they did last week they weren't particularly nice to her either okay then they go to Juergen clever lovely flavor basic but works a bit underproved though but clearly enough to get him through because he was not having a great week but you know it's like then Cristal is up next uh uh uh is that turtle uh it could have been darker but uh maybe a bit longer in the oven citrus kick is fantastic uh flavor's great light uh texture's lovely so nice slice of bread thank you very much Giuseppe uh incredible uh light flavor uh execution's brilliant uh Paul's like I'm having my vegetables but they're bread bounces back texture wise uh flavors in there orange comes through it's because of the zest uh very clever Paul's very serious uh well done Giuseppe Amanda good job light tender love the flavor well baked uh effective thoughtful let's see how tender the loaf is uh purpose it matches spruce lipstick uh love the flavor right amount of sweetness uh bouncy you got a little bit of a big air pocket on the top there but uh whatever okay the birdcage for Roshika they're like again they're like this is four and a half hours of work uh it's also going flat underproofed it's crooked uh and uh so not very nice uh sweetness level is right though uh dough's too dense uh I mean I'm glad I'm not on this show because I feel like uh I'm very messy I don't know okay Freya they say it's amusing neat nice milk bread so I'm going to go ahead and get some milk bread I'm going to go ahead and get some milk bread I'm going to go ahead and get some milk bread it's just right love the look so it's cool because uh I think it's vegan uh we do talking heads we see a bird we do the table talk okay Giuseppe and Freya are in pretty good shape Juergen, George, Lizzie are in the middle Maggie or Roshika's going uh they say I don't I mean again I have nothing against Maggie but I just didn't know how I don't know how she was you know I don't know how she was by the way she doesn't go home uh it's the end of the episode anyway I mean we're still going to do some facts but so Giuseppe's star baker Noel announces that that's obvious but Matt announces that Roshika's going home and I'm like what are you kidding me like how I don't know I don't know uh she forgot the onions uh so I don't know but uh she says just keep baking uh Maggie laughs Peru even says, can you believe he made it through? And there's some relief for Juergen because he says, oh, boy, you can't win them all. But that was a close call. All right, well, let's get into some facts from this week. Got a lot of interesting stuff I got to look up. Okay, so let's see if I can do this here. Okay, so in Italy, let's see. It's a bustling port town, Gaeta, Gaeta, Gaeta, maybe? It's got a little mile-long beach. It's also known for its food, the tiella, which is a cross between pizza and pie and calzone. Two layers of dough, olive oil, fillings, also has its own olive. It's also got a very dramatic vertical geography with hills and mountains and a deep history because it was Virgil that talked about it in the Aeneid or it's tied to that epic poem. Yeah, the Romans had massive extravagant villas. And it was independent maritime republic in the Middle Ages, competed with Amalfi and Pisa. And it's just very fortified. So that's interesting. Okay, next up is to the final countdown. And there's a lot about it. Okay, so apparently this came out in 97. It's 86 by the band Europe. And it's been done before. It gets played before. It was a huge hit. Not my particular cup of tea, but apparently they wrote it in the keyboard part in college on a Korg keyboard. They're just playing around. But Joey Tempest apparently didn't like it. But then in 85, they were like, we need to record our third album. We need something. And they said, what about that? And then they were like, I don't know about this song. Because originally they were like, we're a rock band. We can't play keyboard. So they went back and forth. And maybe inspiration was David Bowie. I guess in an indirect way. But it was a huge hit. Number one in 25 countries. Album Triple Platinum. Had a music video that was popular. And it became like a big sports song. It was on Arrested Development. And also for the 1999 celebrations. I looked up Woody Whitpacker before. Like. Really quick. This was from the golden age of animation. I don't know if he's been. It was around since the 1940s. For animation and Universal. And he was wild in the 40s. Then became 50s. Like. A little bit more mainstream. He's got a wild laugh. Mel Blanc. Originally was a voice. But then he was not working with Universal anymore. And so he was only working with Warner Bros. As my daughter always said when she was little. I said, it's Warner Brothers, sonny. She said, it's Warner Bros, dad. In the 50s, there was a Woody Whitpacker song. It was on TV. And Woody even has a Hollywood walk. I just started. On the Hollywood walk of fame. All right. Now I was like, what is up with ciabatta bread? And so my relationship with ciabatta bread is that, uh, my former mother-in-law. She loved ciabatta bread. Like that was my first exposure to it. And she would slice it. And before there was air fryers, like if anybody's Filipino in the, in this, uh, listening to this, uh, or Filipino American or from a Filipino. like has anybody with filipino influence in their life Before there was air fryers, at least in my experience, they had this thing called a turbo, which was an air fryer or a convection dust countertop-like oven. And my mother-in-law, who was married to my former father-in-law from the Philippines, and so she learned a lot of the dishes. But she would toast ciabatta bread for sandwiches or just toppings in this turbo, which is basically an air fryer. And she would use it for, like, she could make, it was the only time I ever had ciabatta bread, and she would use it for sandwiches and other things, and it was delicious. And I was like, man, this is like a whole world I've never been exposed to in Cleveland, Ohio. And I never bought ciabatta. I mean, I never bought ciabatta. I mean, I guess I lived in sourdough country, so that's why. But it's a relatively new bread, apparently, 1982. It was counter to the French baguettes. And someone near Venice came up with an authentic alternative Italian, Italian alternative, alternative Italian music that's totally different. It could be a good sandwich bread. It was flat, elongated, rough around the sides, so he called it ciabatta, which may mean slipper. It's a high hydration dough, as we said in the episode, 60 to 65 percent of the weight of the food is water, 60 percent weight of water to flour. That's 80 to 90 percent hydration rate. It's very stick and gelatinous. Because it's so wet in a long slot. Low fermentation gets large pockets of carbon dioxide baked at high heat. It was great for a sandwich because it's crisp crust, chewy interior. And it can soak up oils or liquids. And it just has this nice bounce to it. Okay, let's talk about Inception. Because that's like. Thinking about this, and I was thinking about this movie. And some things I was right about the movie, but I was like, was it based on any source material? Such an interesting story in like a genre of movies within genre of movies, which I really liked. And when that time I saw it, I was like, this is like a 007, one part of the movie. I mean, I guess it didn't have to be right because it was like, yeah, of course it is. It makes me think. Me and Christopher Nolan would be getting along great. When I'm recording, this is before his big movie's about to come out in about a few weeks. Looking forward to seeing it, and I hope it's very successful. But Inception came out in 2010. Has no direct literary source material. It was written, a screenplay was written by Christopher Nolan. According to basic research I did, it said he was interested in lucid dreaming. And I was like, yeah, this could be interesting, or make for an interesting movie. Because, you know, you're creating the world, and you're in it, and the whole, you know, whole thing. The whole thing about dreams. But that it didn't actually take off, because his first movie was Memento. And they had this idea for like a movie where there's a lot of autumnal type surprises in it. And, you know, it's been done before. This would be a different version of that. I mean, different than the movie with Frederic. The old, the dream kisser Frederic, who makes all your dreams feel like the chef's kiss. But that didn't really work. So then he was rewriting this persistence. I was like, okay, maybe make it a bigger scale. And make it more about, hey, let's try to obtain things. And, but like, let's obtain, like, I mean, I don't know if this is the same plot of Barbie, A Fairytale Secret. But I remember the song, Do You Want to Know Secret, A Secret. Oh, oh. I don't know if Bibble was in both these films. Probably Bibble was not in Inception. But, yeah, so he's like, oh, just like, maybe he wasn't, I don't know what year Fairytale Secret came out either. I don't even know what the Fairytale Secret was. Just that there's, that fairies are real. And that Barbie was related to one of them. I don't even know anymore. But, yeah, then he became interested in, like, the story of Cobb. And, anyway, then he's like, okay, now I got to get somebody to support it. And I guess it got greenlit after his second movie about, who's that, Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne begins, Bruce Wayne after dark. Then there's the final, final Bruce Wayne film in this genre. I just saw the Robert Pattinson one for the first time. I really liked it. I just like Robert Pattinson, though. So, I mean, I liked the movie, too. But. Okay, so 2009, and I'd seen the Penguin show before I saw the Pattinson movie. But, anyway, enough about me, right? So, Bruce Wayne after dark was so, Bruce Wayne jokes after dark. Sorry, but, yeah, it was so successful. He's like, okay, maybe I could get the budget to make this. And so, yeah. Man, then the rest is history. History, I guess. So, dreaming within a dream within a dream. Okay, so this one, I don't know. Let me see what else we have time for. But this one is important. Wally. So, in the U.S., we have Where's Waldo. I had no idea that it was Where's Wally in the U.K. I mean, this is how un-Europhiled I am. Say file scoots under not Europhiled. None of those are words. Oh. Okay. So, Wally was an author and illustrator. Martin Hanford came up with this guy, Wally. Where's Wally? Where he was hidden. And there's some people in the U.S. that are like, Wally's not going to fly here. Got to call him Waldo. Even though I know multiple Wally's, I'm trying to think if I know a few Wally's that like them all. But, yeah, this is, as I said, we're going to name him Waldo. Huge success. And he's at other places. He's Willie, Charlie, Walter. Maybe he has Wilmer Wenda, who's his girlfriend. Woof, his dog. Wizard. There's a wizard in there? And Odd Law, which is Waldo backwards. All Odd Law. Does anybody have the rights to this? It's like, can we get this as a film? I mean, I think we could make some. Something good. I mean, not me, but maybe Christopher Nolan. You want to get into this? The Odd Law story? Okay, what else do we have here? Oh, the breadsticks. So, had to look up this. Now, if you listen to the show a lot, you know I walked by the original Olive Garden, maybe. Started by General Mills. They got into business in 82. And they may have used the breadsticks to distract from the fact that they were in the U.S. And they may have used the breadsticks to distract from the fact that things were going to be slow. And they got bigger and bigger and bigger. When you're here, you're family. Think of only eating at Olive Garden like once or twice in my life. But it felt like an affordable, casual, predictable night out. But at some point, they were like, of course, they were like, oh, no. First, they were like, oh, not only never-ending breadsticks. We could have never-ending pasta. And they were supposed to be served in seven minutes. But then somebody was like, we can't be giving these away. They changed, you know, whoever bought it said, no, no more free breadsticks. So, they went back. I mean, thank goodness. I mean, I don't know if he still has free breadsticks or not. But thank goodness Costco sticks with their. I mean, that's like always this thing. I mean, at some point, Costco will have to go be found from the $1.50 dog. But, yeah, that's about it. I mean, I also looked up a little bit about milk bread. But the episode kind of covered it. The idea that in the 80s, seaweed was supposed to be a health food. It was going to be the next big health food. But it never turned out. I don't know. I don't know why. Maybe the taste. But that it is good for you. I mean, not just the seaweed wraps. Like, I just remember being like, one day. Maybe it was in Epcot. 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