#2572 - Colum Tyrrell

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. What's the story? Good to see you, brother. What's happening? I'm great, man. Thanks for doing this, man. Thanks for having me. My pleasure. I'm excited to talk to you. Yeah, so I was so nervous about my special these last couple of weeks that I don't even think I was really even thinking about this at all. So probably kind of worked as a nice distraction. Because if I didn't have anything else going on, this would have just been over my head all the time. Oh, yeah. I know. It fucks people up the first time they do it. After you do it a couple of times, you're like, we're just hanging out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in the beginning, it's a mindfuck. This is a global scale for me. Me too. I try not to think about it. Yeah, because all I'm thinking now is like, we'll say something about fucking Sidney Sweeney's tits. Then I got to get a phone call off my mother. Did you see how those women, they interviewed these women and they asked them what was a worse impact on women in society? Whether it was Lindy Clancy or Sidney Sweeney, what was worse for women? And they almost like, I mean, I don't know where they went. Obviously, it's a biased sampling group, but all these women were saying Sidney Sweeney. Yeah, really? Yeah. They just want to peck each other to death. Exactly. That's what it is. Yeah, because she really made it out of the swamp. She made it out of the swamp. Right. She's like, as famous as you possibly be, just mostly because of her tits, really. Actually, you know what? I always thought she was a good actor in a couple of the things. Euphoria and stuff. She's just too hot. They don't like it. Yeah, but she's also kind of not like crazy strikingly beautiful. So there's something that makes her even more popular. Really? I don't think she's like a catwalk model. She's not like a Victoria's Secret model. Her face is a little. Let's take a look at her face. Honestly, this is horrible, but I'm not even getting rude. I'm not getting rude. I'm going to defend her. I think she's hot as the sun. So do I. I think she's as attractive as the sun. She's attractive. The short thing matters with men, but does it really matter with women? For models. Oh, for models. I was going to say for models. Right, but as to whether or not she's attractive, she's fucking beautiful. I would disagree with the previous statements. I don't know what you're talking about, dog. I'm not saying I'm a beautiful man by any means, so don't get this twisted. Well, I'm definitely not either. Yeah. So once we've said that, now let's rip her to shreds. Let's go. She's pretty fucking hot, dude. She really is. I mean, I don't know how you could say that's not a 10. That girl right there is hot as the fucking sun. You are right. She's hot. I changed my mind. Ladies don't like it. They just don't like when a woman has that kind of power because they know that too much of being a woman, at least in America, at least in 2026, I'm sorry, but too much of it resides on whether or not you are attractive to the opposite sex. When women walk into a room, they like to be the most attractive person in the room. And you fucking know, if you walk in a room and that bitch walks in, everyone's going to look at her. Yeah. She is the typical bombshell, blonde, big tits, and all the guys see her, we all go, "How long?" Big, real ones. Yeah. That's the thing. Also, it must be weird for her to be in a world where just people are, I guess, so obsessed with her looks. Well, I mean, she's putting it out there. Right? She's doing that sports ads commercial with football. She has her own like gambling app now and stuff like that. Well, I think she's probably working with one. Boy, if there's anything that's like the most controversial thing, one of the most controversial things today is the gambling ads and whether or not gambling should be legal. Some people are like fully against gambling being legal, and I'm like, "Boy, I don't understand that." I grew up with gambling. Gambling is legal in Ireland, it always was. But then we had like a bookies. Bookies, which was like attached to the pub nearly everywhere you go, so you'd have to physically go in there and run out of slip and you could bet on the horses and stuff like that. And it seemed to be relatively managed well. But I think, first of all, the phones are a disaster. And then you add gambling to the phones. I've heard a lot of stories of people like throwing shit away because the phones are addictive no matter what. And then you'd be putting a bet on basketball and it'll go, "Bling, you just won a free blackjack. Why don't you play blackjack?" and then you'll be there forever. And then you'll be there for an hour and you've lost $500. Right. Or don't do that. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like, shouldn't you be able to have a balanced life and also bet $500 on a game that you care about? Yes. If you're a regular person with a regular job, you're not insane, and you go, "Oh shit, the Knicks are playing tonight, I think they're going to fucking take it. Let's go." Yeah. And you throw a $500 bet on it and it makes it exciting for you. Sure. You got something riding on it. Come on, fuck yeah! Yeah. Woo! People like that. And that's why we're supposed to take that away, because some people can't control it. And look, I've said this many times, I've talked about this. From the time I was 23 till I was like 25, I lived in a pool hall. Yeah. I lived playing pool and hanging out with gamblers. I know gambling addicts. The hustler. Yeah. I know legitimate gambling addicts. They'll gamble on raindrops coming down a window. Yeah. Well, now you can. Polymarket. We'll pull it out. I understand why some people would have a problem with it, but don't do it if you have a problem with it. That's what I don't understand. We're micromanaging every single aspect of society and turning it into a nanny state. I feel like you should be able to drink. I mean, look, I think you should be able to do drugs and I think they should be legal and I think we should be able to sell real drugs, so you shouldn't have to worry about getting fentanyl overdoses. You think you could get coke at 7-Eleven? Not 7-Eleven. No. Maybe at the liquor store. Yeah. And then I go, "Well, why can't I? Because I can control my coke. I should be allowed to buy it at 7-Eleven." Yeah. Okay. Well, you can get booze at 7-Eleven, so fair point. Yeah. I mean, what is the. Can you get hard liquor at 7-Eleven? By the way, you can get coke outside of 7-Eleven. Every single 7-Eleven. You could also die. You could take a fucking ecstasy pill. Yeah. But that's kind of part of the fun of drugs. It is. It's gone. Today, it's the part of the gamble. Where people go, "Is that safe?" You go, "Fuck." Probably. Could be. You let me know. She did it an hour ago, and she's right there. Yeah. That's the canary. She's down, sitting like, "Seems okay." Yeah. It's fucking weird. What were you going to say, Jamie? It just depends on the state. State liquor laws are different everywhere. Like in California, I think you could buy them in the grocery store. Oh, you buy like Jack Daniels? Yeah. Wow. I get. Well, Jack Daniels in the grocery store makes sense, but does it make sense in 7-Eleven? Then there's different. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a different. I think it's a different. Yeah. Some gas stations would have liquor stores attached to them, and some wouldn't, and then it just depends on. Yeah. It's weird, because I live in New Jersey, so we can't buy certain booze at grocery stores. So you have to go. But it doesn't really make sense, because you can buy some things here, some things there. Well, I lived in Massachusetts when I was a kid, and we would have to go to New Hampshire for booze on Sunday. Of course. You had to go. Massachusetts had booze laws. Yeah. They had. What is it? Blue laws? Is that what it's called? Yeah. There's laws on Sunday where you weren't allowed to buy booze. That was the Lord's day. Son of a bitch. Go to church, you piece of shit. And you'd get a bunch of boys in a car. Yeah. We're driving up to New Hampshire. And they would. Crack them open on the way back. They would call them package stores. So we would call it the Packy. We're going to the Packy. And guys would take a fucking. It's a very different meaning in Ireland. hour and a half. What does it mean up there? Oh, Pakistani? Yeah. It's a bit of a slur for browns. No. For us, it was a package store. I don't know how it became package store, but you'd have to go to New Hampshire. And you guys wouldn't just buy a lot on Saturday? No. We were retarded. Fucking 18 years old. You did, but you drank it all. You don't know what the fuck we're doing. For sure. Yeah. There was some guy who was 21. He was driving. But yeah, you'd have to go all the way. Beer in between the legs? And there was no gambling. You would have to go to. Back then, you'd have to go to Vegas to gamble, or you'd have to find a bookie, an actual bookie. Yeah. You'd have to find an actual bookie that was connected to the mob. Yeah. That was the only way. Because you. But then, you really have to work for your gambling. Right. And then, I think you would probably think about your bets a little better. Would you? I doubt it. I don't know. I doubt it. I've not met a mob boss and made a bet yet. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tramphya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. 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But them aside. With a lot of people, it's a self-control issue. It's whether or not you choose to do a positive thing or choose to do a negative thing. And the thing about gambling is I don't think it's always a negative thing. And I think for some people. For some people, it's fun. And they like it. Yeah. It makes it a little extra exciting. And they're not ruining their life. So should they not be able to do it for people who do ruin their life? Yeah, I don't know. I always would place bets on like the Super Bowl, big games like that. Add a little something. I do the boxes at the bars. Fun, right? I like it. Yeah, but now it kind of seems like a lot of just college kids are kind of just fucking. They're growing up where that's normalized to have like a certain amount of your money lost to gambling. And I guess. We need to teach them not to be doing that. Do we? What remains today? The main surviving Texas blue wall restrictions concern alcohol sales and motor vehicle sales. Liquor stores close on Sundays and car dealers cannot sell vehicles on both Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend. What? That's why I brought it up. Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend. So those are the only ones that last. I got into this because there's a long list of 42 very specific items that weren't. That weren't allowed to be sold and that was repealed in like the 60s or 80s or something. This is for Texas? This was for Texas. I don't know about for every other state. It's just. It's also a very strange list of stuff. So what are the categories removed? These are things you couldn't sell? Yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't sell electronics on Sunday? It was repealed in 1985. How weird is that? Electronics. That's the devil's work. Clothing, furniture, kitchen utensils. Footwear. Appliances. You can't buy shoes on Sunday. So you couldn't go shopping, basically. You couldn't buy. I mean, you could go shopping. These are old Texas laws? Jesus laws, son. Jesus wants you to not sell guitars on a Sunday. There was medical. Put that back up? That list? It's crazy. Musical instruments. Recordings and toys. If your kid wants a fucking toy, you can't make your kid happy on a Sunday? They should be happy with Jesus. I've never really heard any of this. Certain tools and lawnmowers. What if your fucking lawnmower breaks on Sunday? And you go, "That's your day to mow the lawn." This says the same thing about they can't sell them on consecutive Saturdays and Sundays. You have to pick a day, which is fucking. That's so strange. What does that mean? How this got developed has gotta be a weird story. I'm sure there has to be a reason. Probably not a good one. The weird thing is, like, if you couldn't buy liquor on Sunday, could you go to a restaurant and order a drink? Here you can order, I think, only beer and wine. You can't order liquor. Or it's like after or before 10 or before 11 or something like that. You mean right now? Today? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So if you go to a restaurant on a Sunday and you try to order an old-fashioned, they won't let you? That seems wrong. You cannot buy liquor from package stores on Sundays in Texas, but you can buy beer and wine at grocery and convenience stores starting at 10 a.m. What about restaurants? A restaurant can serve alcoholic beverages starting at 10 a.m. on Sunday if the alcohol is sold along with the service of food. Oh. So you gotta buy food, too. What? So you can't just be a bar selling liquor. Interesting. I guess I've been to—no, that's not right. I've been to a bar where they're playing football and they're selling— Well, what about our bar? They probably have, like, a one chicken wing minimum. Maybe. Kind of just a loophole. They do have a food truck on premises. What about our bar? What about Mitzi's? We're not open that early. Right. It is Sunday, I guess. But it's Sunday. We're open on Sunday. Are we breaking the law? Breaking the law. It says from 10 a.m. to noon. Oh, just then. That's when you're supposed to be in church. So if you have breakfast— Oh, sorry. If you want some mimosas, you have to order— Yeah, it's 10 a.m. to noon, bro. So no food required afternoon. Okay. So there you go. Oh. So afternoon— A lot of people sitting around waiting. Yeah. Staring at the clock is fucking stupid law. That's the dumbest fucking law ever. Growing up in Ireland, I used to know lads like that would go down to the liquor store and they'd be waiting. Like, they were releasing fucking tickets to, like, a concert. There would be a line of people, like, 9 a.m. on a Sunday just sitting around waiting for the liquor stores to— Wow. They got up early. Well, no. No, they did not get up early. They were up all night. They stayed up all night. Yeah, they went to the gym first and then fucking went for a cup. Now they stay up all night and then they'd go straight to the liquor store waiting. Jesus Christ. Or you had the early houses. They have them in New York sometimes, too, the early houses. What's an early house? An early house has a special license where it can open at, like, six o'clock, seven o'clock in the morning because it's usually in a port, so the old fishermen apparently would get in off their shift. Oh, wow. So there used to be all these laws. You know, can't serve booze till 10:00, and they were like, "Well, we finish work at 6:00 AM, so why can't I drink?" So they would let individual spots. Oh, wow. And they have a few of them in New York still. So when we would bartend, we would drink in the bar till 6:00, 7:00, then we'd get a taxi over to the early house, and there'd be guys getting off work and we're all fucking steaming from the night before. We're wasted all night. New York is fun. It's so much fun. There's so much stuff to do. There's always something happening somewhere. Yeah, that's actually why I moved here, was because I visited New York when I was younger. I was like 19, and I just fell in love with the opportunity of how much stuff there was to do. I was like, I feel like no matter who you are, you can find your little tribe of people in New York. Yeah, you can get a great meal at 4:00 in the morning. Yeah. You can go to a restaurant and get a meal at 4:00 in the morning. Yeah. A little bit of that's died down, though. The restaurants, because of COVID. Really? All the diners were 24 hours, and then COVID, and it kind of stopped, and it kind of fucked up a lot of shit. Fucking COVID. It kind of fucked up. Can I take a look at this coffee? Sure. How long have you been over here for in America? I've been here since 2014. Did you start comedy in Ireland? Yeah, I was doing comedy for like two years out there. What's it like out there? What's the scene? It's small. Not many people out there, so it's like a small. It's not that easy to make a living. Is there clubs, or is it open mics? There's only really a couple of purposely built clubs. Most rooms are just like a room above a bar that's been converted and gray, and the crowds are incredible in Ireland. They're almost like doing a black room, because if you crush, you feel like a king, and if you bomb, you will regret everything that ever led to that. You will bomb the Irish, and then just quickly someone goes, "Not funny," and then you've got 15 more minutes going, "Fuck," and he gets a big laugh, and you go, "Oh, what about this other thing I saw?" But if you're going well, they love you. Yeah. Is there a lot of good comics over there? There's some great comics. Yeah. A lot of them don't move out too much. They don't really get out of there. That's a problem. We've got a couple of great guys. Really? Our biggest guy ever was probably Tommy Ternan. I've heard of him. Tommy was massive, and he used to go all over, and then I think he got rocked for saying. He got one of the first canceled guys back in 2006. He made a joke about Hitler didn't have enough ambition, and that six million wasn't enough. But he said it casually on stage as a joke, and then someone wrote a huge article about him that kind of fucked his whole touring over here, his agents, his managers, everyone dropped him. And then he just goes, "Fuck it. I'll stay in Dublin. I'll stay in Ireland, because I got a fan base here, my family." So Tommy's the best. So does he still perform in Ireland? Yeah, yeah. But I think he kind of only sticks to that region. But he's a weird dude. He's like an old witch type of a guy, where he'll have a stick, he'll walk around with a stick, and he'll hit you with a poem that doesn't make sense, and then he jumps back into a hedge. Like, he is a very interesting, he has a huge talk show in Ireland right now. Really? Massive talk show, yeah. On television? On television. They get a guest in that he doesn't know who the guest is. It's a surprise. So then he sits down and just like starts talking to them and tries to, he either knows them or just tries to figure out what they're doing. Huh, what's it called? The Tommy Tiernan Show. Interesting. Yeah. So book me, maybe. Yeah, for sure. I'd love to do it. That sounds fun. This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. You know what's pretty cool? The Farmer's Dog is partnering with the United Service Organization to support military family and their dogs. The USO Canine Program connects service members and their families with volunteer therapy dogs that provide comfort, companionship, and emotional support. And in honor of America's 250th birthday, the Farmer's Dog is feeding 250 dogs belonging to military families, including some of these therapy dogs. They're also sponsoring two USO canine-focused events this year and providing pet care items for welcome home kits. That's a pretty awesome way to support the people who serve and the dogs that support them. 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Because the anti-Semitism was kind of in the It's kind of cool It's in vogue It's kind of cool Yeah It made a comeback It really did As soon as Kanye Started selling out Stadiums again Everybody was like Wow Yeah That dude had a Diamond encrusted Swastika made By the way Where do you think He got the diamonds Money money Joe He got them from the Albanians He got them from the Italians There's going to be An upcharge on the swastika We can make a deal Yeah But we have to Work something out Gotta go into the back door Yeah A fucking diamond Encrusted swastika And the next thing you know The dude's selling out Stadiums again Selling out Enormous stadiums Well the music slaps Slaps Slaps The dude's Nothing but bangers Yeah For fucking decades That guy's been making Bangers When I say When I say anti-semitism too I'm kind of Tongue in cheek Joking about the Israel stuff But like He was actually doing Some anti-semitic stuff right Oh yeah Like Yeah Yeah He was actually I don't know what he was doing But he was He had a song like We are Hitler or something What was the song he had Yeah Yeah It was Heil Hitler Yeah That was the song And he apologized for that Didn't he have a song About sucking off his cousin At one point too No He posted about that On Instagram That Him and his cousin Used to watch porn And he sucked his cousin's dick He had a song He said I gave my cousin head I gave my cousin head It was Oh really It was actually a banger Yeah It was Again It's like he goes What am I I can I'm so good I'll make a song About sucking off my little cousin And it'll be And it'll be great They blew each other When they were like 14 That kind of happens They would watch porn And suck each other's dicks That kind of happens You know I guess it does If it happened to him And it clearly is a real thing It's not like a You know UFO story Where you're like You gotta leave it up to What did I believe Something fantastical That you've never experienced before I I don't have the confidence To ever admit That would happen Let alone write a great song About it And release it And it's not like Anybody confronted him With that information And he had to own up to it No he just posted it One day on Twitter Awesome Yeah I think he said He sucked his cousin's dick For years For years No Yeah yeah yeah I think he said it for years Cousins Styled in all caps Is a song by American rapper Kanye West Who was released On April 21st 2025 As intended Second single From his unreleased Studio album Cuck What a date It first released On West's Twitter account Before being sent To streaming platforms In April 2023 Hip hop song It samples Worthy originals By Double Virgo And interpolates Ten perks By David Blunt And such Okay He was originally Reluctant to write it But has since reflected On how it positively Impacted West Yeah It was removed From streaming platforms November of 2020 But But why You can't sing about that His friend is His cousin is actually In jail It seems like Previously spoken Of a cousin Who is currently Serving a life sentence In jail For a murder He committed At 17 years old He mentioned him On Jimmy Kimmel Live In 2018 In a 2020 documentary Kim Kardashian West The Justice Project And he was Hmm He added that his cousin Is now serving a sentence For killing a pregnant woman Oof A few years after West told him They wouldn't look At dirty magazines Together anymore West believed that He was self-centered For taking the blame For his cousin's Murder charge And for showing him Those dirty magazines When he was six What? Wow This guy actually Wrote the song And Kanye performed The writing of it Oh wow Yeah Same with the Other song you guys Are talking about American rapper David Blunt Who served as The main songwriter For Cuck Just like Just having that In your Wikipedia What'd you do? Well I was the main Songwriter for Cuck Oh excellent Amazing How was that collaboration? While West was playing The Last of Us On his PlayStation 5 West originally Declined Blunt's offer To turn it into a song But later changed his mind Though Blunt had become Reluctant to write it Attempting to procrastinate By sending West Different songs for the album He eventually decided To record it as a demo In his living room Due to West's Persistence He persisted He's like Write it Write about Me sucking my cousin's dick Writing it over a beat He downloaded from YouTube Due to his main producers Being asleep That's hilarious He's a fucking guy Working like 24 hours a day Blunt took around 20 minutes to finish the song He later reflected on Cousins as being Very freeing for West When he made it Believing that West Chose him to write it Due to his Blunt In quotes No pun intended Approach to songwriting And his That lacks Double entendres According to producer Chucky Beats He was unaware That West used Blunt's song 10 Perks Which he co-wrote And produced Until a YouTube commenter Told him about the X-Post So what was the X-Post? What did he say? So there was a There was a post What? The Cousins post you're saying? Yeah Yeah where he just came out And so he Sucked my cousin's dick It does make sense that Writing that song Helps him Deal with it They say that with like Any PTSD Where it's like If you can journal about Whatever the things are Oh here it is It says The song's called Cousins About my cousin That's locked in jail For killing a pregnant lady A few years ago I told him After I told him We wouldn't look at Dirty magazines together anymore Perhaps in my Self-centered mess I felt it was my fault That I showed him Those dirty magazines Of News 6 And then we acted out What we saw My dad had Playboy magazines But the magazines I found on top Of my mom's closet Were different My dad had My name is Yee And I sucked My cousin's dick Until I was 14 Yay Yay Sorry Tweet sent Okay Awesome Go for him Jesus 6 to 14 That's a long time A lot of dick sucking That's a long time To be sucking cock Yeah And then one day He's like Enough And then he blames that On his cousin shooting A pregnant lady His brother went down Yeah That's Dave Blunt's Yeah He's the guy who wrote it Yeah Wow Okay He's big huh He's a big fella I can see why he procrastinates Yeah Hard to have energy When you're that big Yeah Hard to I don't have energy now Be really super motivated To write a good song That's a crazy story man Yeah But I mean All brilliant people Like that That are that good Are gonna be insane Yeah Yeah I guess Oh yeah Yeah A bunch of different ways But they're all insane In some way Didn't he say He can like see Like colors With sound He said that He has that thing That when he hears Sound He like visualizes it Did he say that That makes sense Yeah I mean clearly That was a gift He's definitely One of the most talented Ever Yeah Yeah I mean And when you talk to him It's like His words are like Barely contained Inside of his mouth Synesthesia Yeah He has A neurological condition Where auditory input Such as music Or sound Triggers involuntary Visual experiences Like seeing colors Shapes or patterns Makes sense So when he hears songs It's like Doing mushrooms or something Like when you're talking to him It's almost like These words are like Pouring out of his mouth Like it's like Behind his brain Like Like they're just coming out No filter I mean I think that's how He writes too I think it's just like There's a creative storm Inside of his brain That's just flying out Of him all the time Yeah Well it goes to show For what he did And now For like his What he was saying And everything And how much people Were like trying to Cancel him I guess And now he's back Selling out a huge Fucking stadium I know It's nuts I think I mean At some point in time They must have just Given up on trying to cancel him The crazy thing is like Adidas backed away From their sponsorship And it cost them Billions of dollars Billions Because he was basically Saying the Jews Control everything And they didn't Like that So they fired him So they killed His bank accounts They basically Controlled everything Way to prove him wrong I guess I know it's so funny that they did that They didn't just ignore him But it's a weird time For anti-Jewish Thinking and rhetoric Yeah well it all just boils over from the Israel thing And then while we're here We're kind of like by the way you're a little annoying also Just so you know While I'm breaking it to you You guys are a little fucking Irritating They're very into Being Jewish and if you're not Jewish Yeah They love being a Jew Must be fun A lot of times in New York they'll ask me if I'm Jewish A lot There's like a special week where they like Hand out fucking Jew Bibles Or whatever they have I don't know Yeah the Torah These guys with the curls and everything they'll stop me And be like are you Jewish They don't get upset at you No they're not upset But they think I'm a Jew I must have some sort of Something going on What do you think that is I don't know You could be Well that's the thing about being Jewish It's not like being Somalian You know where you can go that guy looks Somalian Yeah You know what I mean Like Jewish could be red hair Exactly Yeah I think that's where the sneaky The sneaky Jew comes from I do think that's where the The theory of the sneaky Jew is Because You can't spot him Yeah yeah yeah Well you can spot some of them Like Ari Shaffir You're fucking Yeah you Yeah Everything about Ari is Jewish Yeah you spot that shit a mile away with Ari Ari's like too Jewish Where he needs to like dilute the blood a little Maybe get an operation Where do you start The nose 100% But then you're gonna have to widen the face Sure There's like Like the thing about faces That's like One of those things that you notice If you see someone that got a nose job Like something looks wrong Yeah Like why is your nose normal size And the rest of your face is strange Sure You know Cause that's the golden ratio Like there's like There's a symmetry To the way your face is structured That if you have the type of face That's supposed to have a big nose And all of a sudden you get this little Michael Jackson button nose It doesn't work Yeah Yeah you look weird Like something about your mind Is like The ratios are off And you're like Something's wrong here That would be my biggest fear probably To go under the knife Trying to be more Handsome And then you come out with like A fucking Like a fucked up lip or something Right You know Your face doesn't look good Your face doesn't move So every time You might look okay When you're staring at the mirror But then as soon as you start talking Your face looks like It's made out of rubber What's gonna look What are all these like Young 20 year olds Who are getting Botox Gonna look like when they're 40 Are they just gonna have a fucking mask on Like just Well it's the fillers The fillers are the real problem Botox is not great But It's You're basically putting botulism In your skin And it can also cause A bunch of other side effects But I think The real problem Is those fillers Like some people Have to get their face removed And scrape the fillers out What Yeah man What do you mean To get their face removed Yeah They literally have to like Fucking open your face up And remove the fillers Like Some ladies Went a little too far Like Terminator I don't know the procedure But I know that They have to get something In your skin Underneath there And suck it all out Yeah Depending on the fillers Some of them look good though With the fillers Well just with the work Beast done look No I'm talking like What's the Oldest Kardashian The queen The queen of the Kardashians Oh yeah Not the kids The older lady Yeah yeah What is her name Kris Yeah I don't know who she's working with But she must have Some wizard She must have Wizards She has a squad Yeah she has a squad Tommy Has a little prayer for him Prayer for her He casts a spell Yeah He uses warlock magic To turn her young again That's like a big project For these guys They probably have That's not a simple fix She's like 109 And she looks 18 Those are artists Look at that That's a filter That's fine That's not what she really looks like There's no way they did that To her neck Like when you see her In real life On her television show She does look very good For her age Yeah But she doesn't look like that And then Caitlyn did the opposite Caitlyn could not look worse Yeah Caitlyn's like Giving up like Sad actually Yeah Like she'll walk in With a big handbag Fucking And the hair The hair's all knotty And it's like spooky Yeah it's weird It's spooky Well I think Once you've given up On sex And then you've kind of It's also It's like Did Caitlyn Jenner Have the Excuse me Bottom surgery I don't think so Has that been confirmed I don't think so I think she did She walks like she has a cock Well she used to Yeah I think I guess you don't Adjust that Probably keep the same strut That must be hard To adjust to Not having a cock Yeah A long time ago Like you ever get a toot taken now Long time ago Had the surgery Yeah According to her memoir But do you ever get like a toot taken Out or something And it's like It's like weird to adjust to it For a while Not having a penis Must be fucking Might take a while But now you have a tube You have a hole That you have to keep dilated With a rubber dick It comes with instructions On how to clean it properly And shit Do you ever clean a pocket pussy It's the most disgusting thing I've ever done in my life We used to have a sponsorship With a flashlight Yeah but that's the problem It's all fun and games Until you gotta wash it And then you're just like Just rub our sleeve Under the sink It's fucking dead squid It's glue Yeah I got one at home too It was a gift on a podcast Some chick Some porn star was like I guess she like Oh had it molded from her own Dipped her pussy in clay Or whatever the fuck Very nice Yeah and then she was hanging out Classy Yeah Nice Mine was scented Yeah I watched an episode Of the Kardashians Where they were all sitting Around the living room And Caitlyn came over And it was just like What What are we You know It's one thing to be an old person I saw that same episode I think Yeah being an old person Is okay Like you know You get old We're all gonna get old We're all gonna look shit Sure When we get old But that's different Caitlyn's a real fun You have like crazy long hair And fake boobs And you look insane You look like an old man With fake boobs Yeah I just think If I was to become a lady I think I'd be a real Fucking femme bitch You think so? I think I'd be a bad bitch Or at least I'd be doing My best to be I don't think I would What do you think you would do? I think I would Fucking go out With the girls shopping Right Really get them to compliment me Make me feel good Yeah Yeah I think I'd have a nice haircut I'd shave probably That could be a good start Right Right Maybe just get laser shit All over your face I'd get laser shit everywhere Doesn't grow back Lasered Yeah You don't wanna worry about stubble No You know Yeah Why are you eating pussy? Pretending to be a lesbian That's the thing about The weird ones Are the ones that They do it And then they're still straight Yeah Yeah That's called autogynephilia Autogynephilia Yeah They get aroused By the idea Of pretending to be a woman And they get sexually aroused And they're attracted to women Right But do they only do that In the bedroom Or is this like They have to live like that All the time Not anymore Now that these The new openness Of our society Allows them to go out In public And get excited And go into the women's room With a hard cock Yeah Don't blame them This is the thing About like being open And progressive And just being Like you know Accepting of people You're accepting Also of Sexual deviance Like there are people That aren't Just transgender They're fucking perverts And sex offenders The old school ones Like when I was a kid There's Old school sex offenders It was normal Now they're just Identify as a woman And they get a Willy Wonka golden ticket You could just What do you mean They get sent to like A female prison or whatever Well they definitely Can do that In some places California At last count When I looked Had 47 biological males That were housed In women's prisons Yeah Some of them Have gotten women pregnant They keep their dick There's no requirement In terms of As long as you identify New Jersey's the same way As long as you identify It's like There's a self-identification thing You identify as a woman You're allowed to go Into a woman's prison But do they make you do Do they make you like Put on Like high heels Or anything I don't think They get high heels In prison There's gotta be a test I don't think there is There's gotta be Some sort of a feminine test All you have to do Is get offended If they suggest That you're not a woman This episode is sponsored By BetterHelp If you've thought About trying therapy With our long-term partner BetterHelp Insurance options May now be available Nationwide With an average copay For eligible members Of just $23 per session And with World Mental Health Day On the 10th Now's the perfect time To give it a try In fact Don't even wait Until the 10th Because all that stress You feel It's not waiting around So instead of Letting it build up Sign up for a therapy session And unload at any time Not just on World Mental Health Day If you've been waiting To start therapy BetterHelp works With more than 125 health plan networks And eligible members Have an average copay Of just $23 per session With insurance Don't have insurance Or live outside Of the United States You can still get 10% off your first month Visit BetterHelp.com To explore Your payment options That's better H-E-L-P Dot com This episode Is brought to you By the Farmer's Dog Here's a fun fact Research shows That dogs Who maintain A healthy weight Can live up to Two and a half years Longer on average Than dogs Who are overweight Isn't that wild And also kind of obvious At the same time So why Is feeding Vague scoops Of ultra-processed kibble Still the status quo For most dog owners Healthy alternatives exist. 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You know, should I call my father today? You know, and he's like, nah. That's a very manly response right there. Very manly response. Yeah, it's, I mean, look, I wouldn't want to be the type of person who feels like you're trapped in the wrong body. It's got to be horrible. It's not like I don't have sympathy for them. But my position has always been like, hey, but whatever happened to perverts? Do you know, you've just given perverts a license to be around women by just saying that they're a woman. Sure. You know, there's no way of, there's no distinction. There's no way. There's no way to differentiate between someone who has gender dysphoria and someone who's just a pervert who's operating out of a loophole. Yeah. But you could probably argue that's the same everywhere in life, right? In terms of like, you know. That's a big one, though. Yeah. That's a big one. But people are scamming everywhere. There's con artists everywhere. Oh, yeah. You know, I could be from fucking, I could be from America and pretending to be Irish because I thought this would be like a way to fucking swindle people. If you were, you would really be like wasting your talent at voices. You know? Well, my accent's barely Irish anymore. My accent, everyone, I know for a fact everyone in Ireland is going to be watching this going fucking stupid American accent. What's he doing? That's crazy. Because it's soft as shit. It's real soft. Because all my friends are Irish. My wife's Irish. Sorry, all my friends are American. My wife's American. I just sort of talk around them. And I podcast so much that you hear the accent. Yeah, but you've got the dirt. There's a dirt. Yeah, there's a stupid shit. There's a way that Irish people talk that differentiates them from other people. Yeah. And then when I go home, I suck it in. Every time I'm listening to it, I get it back. It's thick as shit. And then I come back here and no one understands me for a week. And then it just sort of disappears. It floats away. See, to me, you sound very Irish. Yeah. Yeah. But to them, I sound like a prick. Really? Yeah. Like you've softened up. Softened up a lot. There's old clips of me on YouTube and stuff where my accent's thick as shit. Conor McGregor style fucking. What's the story? How's everybody doing? Wow. And now I'm like going to put the trash, put the trash out or whatever. But even when you're saying put the trash. Yeah, I guess there's little things in there. Yeah. Little. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. But to them, this is very, they'll notice this. They'll notice little things. And they'll DM me and call me a fraud. Faggot. And I'll go, I'm sorry. I just, there's not enough Irish people in my life anymore. How often do you go back? I usually go back twice a year. This year I didn't go back, but next year I've got like four trips booked already. I got a bunch of shows. If anyone wants to come out and see me, please come see me. Yeah. I'm doing shows in Dublin and Limerick. That's fucking cool. Yeah. I'm excited to go back. Yeah. I've never been able to, like I have a bigger audience here because like most of my career has been here and everyone like has been through leadership. Yeah. I've never been able to, like I have a region of skanks and Ari and all these type of fans have come to me. So I don't really have the Irish accent. So, or sorry, I don't really have the Irish audience. So I go back. That's ridiculous. Yeah. Because they get online too. They must be seeing you. I have a few. I have a few. But if I was in Ireland doing jokes about fucking Ireland, I would be, I think I'd be much bigger. When you go back, do you have a bunch of Irish material about Ireland? Not really, no. No? No. Well, it changes. The place changes so much. I don't know. I have stuff about my dad I talk about a lot. I'll talk about my dad a lot. My dad, he's very Irish dad, you know what I mean? And just like, he's just like an interesting guy. He used to be really angry my whole life. And then one day I think he stopped working and now he's the nicest guy. You know? I think there's something about your, someday, I think your dad is a mean prick until one day when you're like a grownup and then they just go, ah, you're all right. Like they ease off, you know? Well, one thing that happens, you get out of their house so they don't have to take care of you anymore. It's that fucking thing. It changes a lot. It's that riding again. They get the fuck out of that. Yeah. You get out of their house and you're not their responsibility anymore. And then they can relax and they're around you. And then if you're doing all right with your life, you've developed a career or what have you, then they're all right when they're around you. But my dad, my friends used to call my, my dad's name is Aiden. My friends used to have a nickname for him called Raging Aiden because he was such a notorious shithead. And one time we were, we were 18 or 17 and we're going to a concert and two of my friends were in the house. We're just drinking, pre-drinking. And he came home from work. Or whatever. And he's like, how's it going? And he's like raging. And he's like mad. And then he just, at one point someone made a joke and he goes, get the fuck out of my house. Ollies, get the fuck out of my house. And he grabbed the beers and threw them out into the street. He goes, get the fuck out of here. And my friend Bill, he walked off down the road. And then my dad comes out and goes, Bill, come here. Get back here. Get back here. And we walked all day up. He goes, get the fuck out of my face. He just saw a red. Did he just hate his job? I don't know. Yeah, he used to work as a plumber. So I think he just hated his job. I think he was just stressed about financial shit and everything. And now he's like retired and he gardens and he's a sweet little old pathetic man. He's like, my nieces have the best version of him ever. He's just in the garden all day, just planting. And he'll send me photos of flowers. I'm like, who is this guy? What happened? Well, how many people are ruined by a job they hate that they have to show up every day? Just be living in shit and stress all day long and then come home and realize that all that work that you did and you still can barely pay your bills. Exactly, yeah. That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what's that Thoreau quote? Most men live lives of quiet desperation. Wow. Yeah, that's heavy shit. It's true. Most men are out there working right now. Not that women aren't, but you know, that's the, it's the male quote because it's, there's something about working these brutal, horrible jobs where you're still barely making enough money for food. That's crazy. And you're wasted your life. And then all of a sudden you're 60, you know, and then you're like, well, what am I going to do? I'm going to go to work. And then you're like, well, what am I going to do? And then you're like, well, what am I doing? Yeah. It's tough in America sometimes too. It's like, you want to go to, you go to Waffle House and it's nice because Waffle House is great. But the people working there are like the saddest humans alive. Like it's like, they're, no one wants to be at Waffle House. They're like just all there. Not only that, it's, you're going to see fights five nights a week. Yeah. Yeah. They're exhausted. The odds of going to a Waffle House and seeing a brawl are very high. What is it about? It's like the fucking bat signal for fucking aggressiveness. I know. It's more so than a diner. Like it's very rare to see a brawl at a diner, like a 24 hour diner. No. Denny's, no one's ever fought in Denny's in their life. Most of the time people just- Waffle House is fucking Royal Rumba. Waffle House is just viral video after viral video. Are they organizing it maybe? I don't think so. Like, is that like a good thing? I think it's where Waffle Houses are. It's probably like they're in an area that's like more fucked up or something. Yeah. But I mean, when you're drunk and it's like two o'clock in the morning and you're like, man, you can get waffles? Like, fuck yeah. With butter and syrup. And you can get everything. Eggs, bacon. Chicken, fried steak. Anything you want. Let's go. And you can sit in a little booth with a couple of friends. Have some coffee, talk some shit. Yeah. And the next thing you know, some fat bitch skips you in the line or something. And then fucking Waffle House, bro. But you ever see that one where the lady who worked there, skinny little white chick with tattoos, fucked them all up. She was this tiny skinny girl and all these big fucking, fat ladies were screaming at her like, I'm gonna fuck you up. And she came out, she goes, you want to fucking go? Because the people that work there aren't like chumps either. No. They have to go through some sort of probably. It's called jail. They have to do a minimum of jail. They have to have a jail experience to work at Waffle House, yeah. Yeah. How many salt and batteries do you have? Okay, three. You could be a manager. You can go train all the other staff how to defend themselves at two o'clock in the morning from a fork to the neck. Yeah. Oy, oy. Oy, oy, oy. Yeah. And it doesn't close. That's the other thing. Like if you're a person looking for something to eat or do and it's four o'clock in the morning, you don't have a lot of options. And those people, if you're up that late, most likely you've made some poor choices. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Or good ones. Great ones. You know, I grew up in Ireland, fist fights all the time. So when the night clubs used to end at four o'clock in the morning in Dublin city center and everyone stayed out till four. It was like, it was, it wasn't even an option to go home before the bar closed. If that makes sense. I've never in my life heard of someone going, ah, it's two o'clock. I better go. And you go, no, just two more hours of drinking. We're here. That's, that's just the way it worked. I don't know why. We just love it so much. Why is that? I think, well, apparently the Vikings used to have to drink a lot of alcohol because that would kill the bacteria in the water. So there's, I think there's probably some sort of a thing that was just passed down. A bunch of generations of, I also think it's probably a whole lot of repressed fucking trauma over the years that we can only let out when we get blackout drunk and puke. that's our therapy you know there are a lot of stories in ancient days of people who drank nothing but beer yeah they just drank beer that's what so everyone was drunk all the time yeah which is really crazy if you think about it but you get to a point where you're kind of you're not drunk drunk but you're kind of buzzed right all day every day you're just a little bit horny just a little bit and also like that just the liver poisoning like yeah but you're probably dying in your 60s back then anyway probably killed by a sword fucking the honorable way to go yeah before you're ever getting liver disease but they did that at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin too all these guys the old coopers would make the barrels and they'd make millions of these per year and they had a free supply of Guinness to drink all day so these guys would go to work and they would drink 12 points of Guinness all day while they're fucking working and then after work they'd go down to the Guinness bar the pub and spend the money they just earned and keep rolling and then actually start drinking the one that during the day was moderation yeah yeah and you got a job there when you were 12 and you were drinking 6 pints a day from 12 everyone was drinking young everyone was drinking young when my dad was growing up he would go to pubs when he was 12 like so holy shit he's like 70 now so that was back in the day holy shit but like it's just a drinking culture and it's 18 now which means the law is 18 but we let you at 15 if you're a chick 16 if you're a fella that's just that's when people start drinking yeah in pubs in nightclubs for sure because you'd use your I used my older brother's ID when I was he was 4 years older than me so he was 18 so he would have been 20 and I was 16 using his ID but all the girls I grew up with would go in even younger because the bouncers like see a Q15 year old walk up they kind of let them go in then I walk in like fucking covered in pimples like a fucking moron they go nah you're not allowed in I go well that was my girlfriend they go not tonight there's a some sort of a series on I think it's on Netflix about the Guinness family have you seen it? yeah yeah yeah there's like a it's a drama it's like a Peaky Blinders type deal it's kind of weird yeah it's weird the accents are weird and everything so it's like it's tough to watch and they sound like I'd fucking sound but it sounds shitty like it doesn't sound like a good Irish accent not all of them but some of them are from Ireland so is it American actors faking it? it's a it's by the way it's loosely loosely based on the this this certain generation of the Guinness family can we listen to some of this? I don't know if there's any talking and of course our thoughts and prayers are most of all which are Benjamin Lee Guinness' four children from the creatives of Peaky Blinders a gift from Mr. Guinness from a representative of the Dublin poor Trouble is brewing behind our weak and divided now is the time to use that weakness you think there'll be trouble today? the man's name is Guinness of course there'll be fucking trouble so that accent's bullshit he's faking it yeah but that little guy they had as a leprechaun for some reason they literally introduced him he goes I've fucking done I'll sell your Guinness in New York sure I will you know you know it's kind of amazing with people being that drunk all the time that anything ever got done poetry that's you know the writing we did all that we never did we never figured out like you know you know finance or any of that important shit but we we had a good time we have a good time yeah a lot of poetry a lot of singing a lot of singing dancing plays writing talking we talk non-stop about Everton Everton a conversation in Ireland is one of the most fun things because you'll be laughing one second and then crying the next it's sort of just a rollercoaster of they love getting into the nitty gritty of like horrible things for some reason Irish people we feed on misery you know it's a booze thing probably it's a depressant I just I don't know what it is I think it's just we have to fill the dead air so it's like any time I talk to my and I didn't really notice this until I started bringing my wife to Ireland and she's like very heavy subjects and I was like I'd never even noticed but like we'd be having the dinner and then suddenly my mom would just go oh you know your cousin she was dating a guy called Jerry yeah yeah yeah he died he's fucking got hit by a car last night you know or they'll bring up someone who lost a baby or whatever just all the time it's always like just misery and you're like I don't even know this guy what are you telling me I don't know my cousin what the fuck you talking about and they love it though they love a little bit of fucking misery what do you think that is I don't know I think it comes I don't know probably just passed down from like the famine or something where we where we where we talked about it yeah you know cause the famine's a weird one that kinda still what was the cause of the famine the British the British did it what did they do they took all our food they left they so the when Britain was in control of Ireland in the 1800s but that was the date well there was like two major famines right I'm probably getting the dates wrong but they gave the Catholics the shittier land they took off they pushed the Catholics off the good land that could grow carrots and cabbage and whatever they pushed them to the shitty land and the only thing that could grow on the shitty land was the potatoes and then when the potato plight happened it wiped out the potatoes it was the entire food source but we were still producing loads of food but that was all getting shipped over to the crown so the crown so it was like a forced forced famine or forced starvation even how many people died I don't know I don't know the number but it it rocked the and the amount of people that left too holy shit between 1845 and 1852 about 1 million people died from starvation and disease and roughly 2 million emigrated between 1845 and 1855 potato blight triggered the crisis but poverty dependence on one crop and the British government policies made its consequences far worse a fucking million people I think a lot of people in Ireland 10 years a lot of people in Ireland would think that's a little bit too favorable to how much the British government actually played a role in that shit but I don't know where my family was back then you know I don't know so I don't know how many ancestors I would have had back then it must be like a hundred or something like people that I'm came from I don't know who was affected by it who was doing well right I don't know like probably no one was doing real well it sounds like I don't know it sounds like there's a starvation going on it's probably rough times if you're poor if you're living in a nice house and you're fucking doing something but one of the most painful facts is that the food continued to leave Ireland while people starved the story is not simply that Ireland exported food imported none grain imports also rose sharply the crucial distinction between the food being available in the economy and starving people having the money or assistance needed to obtain it crop failure alone does not explain the scale of the deaths so perplexity is giving us the nuanced details it says this guy worsening perplexity inactions of Lord John Russell's government worsening the disaster but they say there's a gene it affected the gene there's a gene where certain Irish people can use less calories their body will store the calories because they survived through those times if not right yeah I've heard of that before there's a longevity gene that's associated with it really yeah like people that are the descendants of starving people apparently live longer and they're more robust really but what if you have an infant it's like you know today's world we're so focused on making sure all our infants and everyone has got the good shit you know there was entire generations of kids who were born not getting nutrients into their brains so would that have like a long term effect on because eventually they grew up on IQs would they be like you know stupid for lack of a better word it's a good question they passed that on like would that have affected the national average IQ of Ireland it's a good question is that why we like to drink and dance so much because we starved ourselves a little dumb well it sounds like it's embedded in the culture and that could be because of that I wonder what life was like before the famine this episode is brought to you by perplexity you've heard me say it all the time put it in perplexity it's worth it what I use for research you ask it a question it gives you a straight answer and it shows you where it got the information so you can check the sources yourself but sometimes you don't just need an answer you need something done so perplexity built a new product called perplexity computer you give it a real job and it researches works across your files and apps and comes back with a finished thing a report a spreadsheet it'll even build you an app and it'll give you so whatever you've been putting it off hand perplexity computer the job try it at pplx.ai slash joe rogan I don't think it was great either it doesn't seem like it was it was great before the English showed up and then they kind of pushed us off that's why the Irish love Palestine so much because they just built in our system built in our culture of supporting the underdog I guess sure you know and then they kind of And no matter what that's going on, I think we just will naturally side towards It's the people who are getting genocided rather than the other people. Well, I mean, that's kind of across the whole world now. Now it is. Now, yeah. That's the weird thing about Jewish people in America. There's a lot of people that I know. I love them to death, but they have a blind spot. And that blind spot is their Jewish identity in Israel. And they refuse to say it's a genocide. They refuse to condemn it. They come up with reasons why they had to bomb those buildings. And Hamas did this, and Hamas did that, and October 7th this. Yeah, I'm kind of over it now, though. I kind of wish Israel were just going to hurry up, wipe them off so we can move on. Because I don't think it's—I think it's just—it's going on a little long now, Joe. And I don't think they're going to change anything. So wipe them out. Wipe out West Bank. And then—like, why is Macklemore back in my timeline? Because of Israel. Yeah. Well, because he made that stance. Sure. But there wouldn't have been a stance to make if Israel just hurry up and wipe them out. Because they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. It's going to just keep going. Jesus Christ. Don't you think it's got—like, do you see a—do you see a solution? Settle down, lad. Are you trying to be the 2026 Tommy Tiernan? That wasn't bad, actually. Oh, fuck. Karma. Sure. Yeah. The weird thing is they just had an election, right? And so Netanyahu might be out. And apparently this new guy is more hardcore than Netanyahu. Really? Oh, I thought it was going to swing the other way. Listen, I'm very peripherally paying attention. I'm very peripherally paying attention to this. It's like, what's going on over there? Oh, God. I read an article, like, one paragraph in. I shut the laptop. I'm like, I can't do this. There's only so much you can take in. I don't want to take any more anymore. I feel completely overwhelmed. And the days that I feel great are the days that I don't absorb anything. Yeah. 100%. I stay offline. I stay out of the social media and whatever people are screaming about. Live updates. The close race sets the stage for weeks of negotiations over the next government. Neither Prime Minister and Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, nor his main challenger, how would you say that name? Gadi Isinkat, were projected to gain a parliamentary majority. Okay. So they're going to duke it out and maybe someone dies in a bomb. Weeks of negotiation and maybe a drone attack. Fuck. He's rough, though, right? Isn't he, like, he's pretty hardcore. No idea. Find out. They said it was a 16% turnout and it was a record number of votes or something. That's crazy. That's because everyone lives in Brooklyn. Well, most Israel people or something live in America. I think they can. Most who? Well, obviously, I don't know. But I think a lot of them live in America. A lot of Israelis. Is that why it's only 16%? Because that's particularly low. That seems crazy. This is right away just a tweet that I saw that I'm not going to take as fact. What's a good election in America? What's our turnout? I don't think it's. 50's good? I believe 50% of people in America vote and then it's half and half pretty much neck and neck, even though. You know, this race and then all of that half like. So here it says less hardcore in domestic politics and political style, but not clearly less hard line on military force or Palestinian statehood. Eisencott is better understood as a security hawk offering an alternative to Netanyahu's leadership and far right allies, not a dovish, dovish alternative to Israel's security policy on military force. Very hawkish. Former. Israeli military chief. Eisencott broadly supported operations in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran, associated with, uh, how do you say that word? Dahiya Dahiya doctrine, uh, using overwhelming force, including against civilian infrastructure to deter enemy attacks. His quieter manner should not be mistaken for reluctance to use devastating force. Oh, fun. What a fun place. Fun. I know. I know people that go back. I know people that go back over there to visit, like Jewish folks. I'm like, wow, this seems like a risky place to visit. Seems like anything could pop off over there. Have you ever been to a war zone? No. Have you? No. But I, I feel like. You want to? No. I don't, but I feel like it could be fucking, it could wake, wake me up a little. I had, uh, Rick Springfield on the, you know, Jesse's Girl. You know that girl? I wish that I had Jesse's Girl. So when he was 18, he went to Vietnam, uh, to perform for the troops. He was in a band and, uh, he was in a fucking war zone. Like they got shot at, like he lobbed mortars and apparently killed one of the Viet Cong. They had, they threw him a fucking grenade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they, they were lobbing mortars and one of the guys told him, hey, you got one. And so this is like to this day, it fucks with him because he's in his seventies now and he's like, I fucking killed a guy when I was 18. I didn't sign up for that. I was, well, he didn't sign up for anything. He was over there to perform music. And they just got ambushed or something like that? Yeah, yeah. And then they said, you got to fight your way out? No, they just allowed him to do it. Hey, you want to, you want to drop a bomb? Oh, it was like, this is a, this is an easy kill. Would you like to take the kill? I, something along those lines. Would you like to participate? You know, we have some bombs. Would you like to lob? Well, I'd like to kill this guy, but it's, it's pretty easy. He's already wounded. You can have him if you want. Well, he's trying to kill you. I guess he did. I think Vietnam is all times one of the scariest ideas to me ever, being in the jungle. Like, do you ever just walk through the woods or the forest anywhere and it's a little spooky? Oh, yeah. But being in a jungle, a lot, without the Vietnamese trying to kill you, just walking through that jungle alone between the snakes and everything, the tigers. Oh, yeah. You know? Not only that, you don't know that area and they've been living there their whole lives. Exactly. And they dig tunnels. Yeah. And some guys would have to climb. They would have to climb into the tunnels to kill the Vietnamese. Fuck that. Fuck that. Imagine the night man. I'm going to overeat so I can't fit in the fucking things or something. I'm finding some reason. Right. Because some of those tunnels are pretty small. Tiny little things. Yeah. Yeah. Because the Vietnam people were very small people. But even if I, like when I go camping and stuff like that, I'll be in the middle of the night, you just hear it. Like, you'll hear a twig snap from something. And I'm scared it's a fucking whatever, mountain lion or something. Yeah. I'm scared of it knowing it was here. I'm scared of a human with a fucking carrying a knife in his mouth and fucking sneaking in to slit my throat. That's nothing scarier than that. And then these guys were just sent back and we're supposed to just fucking listen to the mamas and the papas or whatever. Yeah. Everyone else is dancing, smoking weed, going, hey, welcome back. And these guys are like, yeah, I'm fried. And they're doing heroin and they're fucking hanging out. And everyone knows the war is bullshit. Yeah. And you're probably going to die. There's no reason to be over there. None of it makes any sense. Right. Right. Right. And now we know that the entire premise. The entire premise for entering into the war was fabricated. Really? The Gulf of Tonkin incident. Yeah. I'm not familiar. The Gulf of Tonkin incident is a false flag that occurred during the, before the war got popped off. There was already some operations over there and they claimed that the Viet Cong had attacked and blown up an American warship. Yeah. In the Gulf of Tonkin. It never happened. It's all fake. And not only that. One of the guys that was involved in that perpetrating that was Jim Morrison from the Doors. It was his dad. Really? Yeah. His dad. There's a lot of like crazy shit involved in like the musical movement of the 1960s. There's a great book called, it's not, I wouldn't say a great book. It's a weird book. Was it Strange Times in the Canyon? Yeah. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah. But it's all about how many of these people. People from the counterculture movement in the 60s had connections to military intelligence. Interesting. Yeah. It's very weird. Weird scenes. Weird scenes. Weird scenes inside the canyon. So like it was almost orchestrated for a particular reason. That's the conspiracy theory angle, right? The conspiracy theory angle is this is all orchestrated by the government and that the CIA was manipulating people's minds, trying to get society to unravel. Yeah. And that they, but I, I, I only buy stories. So much of it because I'm like, how do you make a guy as talented as Jim Morrison? How do you make the doors? If the CIA can make Jimi Hendrix, why don't they make more of them? Sure. It seems pretty awesome. Like why, why wouldn't you? Maybe they have, maybe the modern day, they learned that like Lady Gaga will do or whatever. Maybe that's like the new thing. Maybe. Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga's working for the CIA. There's probably somebody who believes that. Yeah. There's probably some, some theory about Lady Gaga. Everyone's a plant now. That's the new thing. Everyone's a plant. That's what they say. Anyone who's successful. They go plant for sure. I go in the comments sometimes and I see all the people that they think are plants. You, you're a plant. I'm, that's what they think. Yeah. It's kind of interesting that I'm not, it's interesting to me that I'm not like, it's interesting to me that no one has tried to recruit me or pay me or hire me or influence me to do things. They don't need to. They definitely come on the show and say some things that aren't true. And I'm aware of that. And I feel like all I can do is like hear their perspective. Let the world know. And make their own distinction. And I think people are pretty good at it these days. Like, fuck this guy. He's this, he's that. He's working for this guy. I'm working for that guy. But if you talk to enough people, they'll assume that you've been recruited. But the really fascinating thing is I haven't. That's what's really fascinating. The really fascinating thing is that no one has any influence over what goes on the show other than me. Maybe they have you and you don't even know it. Maybe you're under their spell, Joe. Right. Like a Manchurian candidate. They fucking, they hacked your Instagram account. Right. So now you're getting. and particular things into the feed, something like that. Would that be crazy? Well, it wouldn't be crazy, but that's not going to work because I barely go on Instagram. All right. That's not going to work. And the Instagram stuff that I get to, it's almost like ancient history shit. Yeah. You know. That's nice. Bar fights. A lot of assassinations. Really? A lot of like South American assassinations. Like the presidential stuff? Well, no. People just getting whacked in a diner or a pool hall. Someone comes in and just fucking blows some guy's brains out in front of everybody. And then how do you feel after you put your phone down? Not great. Well, that's one of the reasons why I try to stay off of it. You're ignoring your kids going, sorry, I've got to watch this guy getting shot in the fucking head. No, I try not to do it at home. You've got to. The only solution is just to get it and throw it in a fucking river. And we all just go back to kind of just emailing. Well, I've been toying with the idea of moving away from a smartphone. Have you seen this stuff about the TVs going on? Yes. They call it a dumb phone, right? Yeah. Samsung TVs might use the mics of connected devices to listen to you. They are. They're definitely listening. So people always think that they have to. 100% of the phone listening, but it's every other device around you listening and then sending it to an ad company. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like there's terms of services that you sign up for when you click accept, and you don't even read those fucking things. And some of them, like the TikTok one, is insane. Yeah. I don't know if it is insane now, but the old TikTok one was TikTok, if you had a phone and that phone had TikTok on it. TikTok was allowed to have access to the other computers that are on the network that don't have TikTok on them. Yeah. So you're essentially allowing whatever that program is, whatever the software is, to access passwords, keystrokes, your microphone, all kinds of wild shit. Yeah. It's like some security expert looked at it and said it is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever read. These are the new guys who bought it. Is it? No, this is before. This is the old guys who was forced to sell it. And now it's owned by- The old Chinese guys or whatever. Yeah. Now it's owned by the same people that own CNN, CBS. That's good. Let them own everything. Fucking give them everything at this point. You'll change the narrative if you just own all forms of conversation. Well, it's going to be interesting to see what they do with CNN, right? So all of a sudden, these Israel supporters- Israel supporters own CNN. Yeah. So let's see what happens. Well, it's probably just a nail in the coffin for all this mainstream shit, right? Probably. You know? Yeah. It's tough. It's tough to kind of- People watch. People like love that. Like people will sit down- The olds. Yeah. The boomers. Yeah. Yeah. The olds who are tired and their knees hurt. And they're a little scared because they're old. And then this guy's telling them why they should be scared. Whatever it is. Fox News, CNN. And it's the same talking points. It's the same bullshit. Yep. Yep. You know? And then they just- Then they'll be like, breaking news, coming up. And then they'll push some fucking pharmaceutical bullshit on you. Yeah. You got two types of olds. You got the old boomers that are liberals that are basically like they have dried out brains and they just support narratives no matter what. I don't really know any old liberals, to be honest. You don't? Oh, old liberals are fascinating because they get violently angry when you confront them with facts. Sure. They get very angry. Yeah. Whereas old conservatives- Old conservatives are worried about like immigration. They're worried about- They're in a state of fear, though. Yeah, yeah. They're both in a state of fear. Yeah. Yeah. Well, olds, a lot of the olds, they get in a state of fear because they're dying. And they- They know the end is near and they know their health is not well. And they still think TV is truth. They were raised on news is truth. Oh, yeah. And then they still have that. Yeah. And they take all their boosters. This is what they have now. Skydance is the name of the company? Yeah. Yeah. So they have all the HBOs, MTV, Nickelodeon. Paramount Plus. Nickelodeon? Yeah, they own Nickelodeon. What do we think about Palestine? PBS, Smithsonian, TNT. TNT. Wow. Warner Brothers. What are the other ones? Adult Swim. Wow. All these cartoons. It's crazy. TNT, BET. It's crazy. Country Music Channel. Wow. Food Network, Golf Digest. Cooking. They own the golf? And DC Comics? There's also the golf channel. That's not the same thing. Fuck. They own everything. That is crazy. Eurosport. That is crazy. Discovery. Discovery? That's crazy. I'd love to own all that, to be honest. What would you do? Animal Planet? I would sort of just, I don't know. I'd probably just like fuck with people who bullied me when I was younger or something. Just like put out this, put out a random little news article every now and again about some guy having a little dick. They own the free press. They own everything. It's a strange time. But it's like, all that mainstream stuff, other than things like Paramount Plus and streaming networks that show shows. And, you know, things that people actually still watch. Most people are fucking tuned out to that. Young people are just like, you're not going to get them. No. They're done. It's, yeah. It's, it'd be crazy to meet a 20-year-old who sits down and puts on a little bit of fucking CNN at night. And really is invested. Yeah. Interesting. Wow. Wow. I didn't know. Yeah. It's like the most boring. And it's like embarrassing. It's like things whizzing by the screen and shit like that. Coming up. Breaking news. Coming up. It's like it's been coming up forever. Jimmy Carr was on the podcast yesterday. And one of the things that he brought up was that, was it his father that he was talking about who recognized that when they started putting music on the news? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So when they started putting music on the news, like, oh, fuck. They're making it. Dun, dun, dun. Oh. Dun, dun, dun. Breaking news. Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. They hired some movie director. Yeah. And then it zooms in to fucking Anderson Cooper standing there with his glasses on, looking very intelligent, very professional. Standing in front of a big, big camera. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big screen TV. Yeah. Breaking news today. We've got some bar charts that mean nothing. And you can sit there and go, hmm, I'm learning. Yeah. But a lot of people watch that shit, too. And then you go, what did you just watch? 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Well, there's a lot of the old liberals do not want to believe that, and that's one of the things that they push back against. They're not doing it for the good of their fucking health. It's a business, and your attention is the fucking money. Well, the best piece of evidence is that is they don't criticize pharmaceutical drug companies because they're a primary advertiser. You think it's unethical? To do that? Yes. Well, there's only two countries that even allow it. The United States and New Zealand. What's going on over there? I don't know. Apparently, they're much more restrictive, though, than us. The Kiwis, yeah. But in the United States, they allow people, like, how many fucking ads, if you watch regular television, do you see that are pharmaceutical drugs that are naming off a bunch of very obscure conditions that you've never even heard of? So why is there enough of a desire for this that you're going to put an ad on television for? It's very obscure medication. If you're sick and you need it, you should be able to find it. Ask your doctor. It shouldn't be impulse, like, oh, that sounds like me. I should try that. Ask your doctor, Colm, about fuck it all. I think what's really going on, though, and this is not my take. This is Cali Means and a lot of these other people. Their position is that why they do that is not to advertise their drugs so people buy the drugs. They do that so that the networks won't criticize the pharmaceuticals. So they advertise all their various products, and it gets it out there, but more importantly, it protects them from the eye of Sauron. It protects them from the news looking in. Because if their news really was the news, they would look into all the adverse drug deaths and all the different people that die because of these fucking drugs that wind up getting pulled from the market because the FDA didn't do their due diligence when they passed them. Yeah. But I remember I was listening to some. Um, guy had a role. in, you know, I guess, big pharma regulations or whatever. And they were talking about Purdue Pharma. And one of the things that was crazy was the guy asked him a question. He goes, is Purdue Pharma, with all of their unethical techniques that they did to push their heroin, essentially, on innocent people, why are they operating uniquely in the industry? And they're like, no, every single pharmaceutical company follows the exact same way. The problem was is that Purdue Pharma and the OxyContin fucked up communities to such a degree that they couldn't get away with it. Whereas Xanax, you could argue, there's a lot of people addicted to Xanax. But it's not enough that people are tweaking and smashing fucking someone's head in at a liquor store for $20. So they're getting away with it, you know? Yeah, Xanax can function on it. Yeah, it's the same lying. It's the same, like, fucking doctored results, things like that. Have you ever seen someone trying to get off Xanax? No, actually. I haven't lived around it. It is one of the hardest ones, apparently. I know a few people that have had it, but one of them real well. And Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is a big one. Like, Jordan, he got addicted to Xanax, and it took him a full year. Is that why he disappeared for a while? Yeah. Because of Xanax? He had to go through some medical detox in Russia. Why Russia? I don't know. Did they put him into a coma or something? I don't know. Maybe. He doesn't really talk too much about it, but he seems. Different. You know, and I think there's a bunch of factors there and why he seems different. He was very wise and interesting when I first met him. Not that he's not still. He's very wise, very interesting, very well-read guy. But much more damaged now. And whether that is because of health, I think it's also the pressure that comes with fame. I mean, he was a 40-something-year-old professor in Toronto, you know, who was a psychologist. Yeah. He's not. He's not a guy who was seeking out this kind of attention and fame. And then all of a sudden he's doing lectures in front of tens of thousands of people all over the world. Like traveling everywhere, doing these sold-out lectures where he's talking about all kinds of different interesting things. And it showed that people have a hunger for fascinating topics and deep discussions and conversations because his lectures were very, very popular. But I think over time, like some of his. Outbursts and like he's like, you know, yelled at people online, all these different things. I think some of that is just the pressure. Most people don't have any idea what that pressure is like. And then you all of a sudden get in it when you're in your 40s. Yeah. And you were never seeking it. And then everywhere you go, people are misrepresenting who you are and trying to make it seem as if you're some evil, right-wing, racist, xenophobic, you know, transphobic. Homophobic, homophobic. Yeah. Ideologue. It would be exhausting to have to live your life where every single thing is a take that is like a fucking controversial argument with people. Because everywhere he lives, you know, in conversation is a difficulty. It's not a very simple, you know, let's all have ice cream and watch fucking NBA. It's something about surgeons should be fucking losing their license for. Operating on trans people or whatever, you know? And that's like just a difficult. It's a real heavy life to be in that conversation. Right. All the time. All the time. Yeah, that's one of the benefits of doing a podcast, especially if you're a comic. Like I could have a guy on one day that talks about that stuff. And then the next guy on, he, you know, met Bigfoot. Yeah. Is that a Bigfoot t-shirt? It's a Sasquatch. Fuck yeah, sure. I went to Mount Rushmore. But I'm the ultimate tourist. I'll do it all. Yeah? I love it. I love going to fucking bookies and then to get a photo with the mascot. I did one of the best trips of my life last summer. I heard about how beautiful Montana is and everything. So I fucking worked with my agent to get, like, we went to Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, which is probably the most beautiful place in fucking America. Pretty gorgeous. All up there. And now I've got the. So we went everywhere. But over there, which is like, I think Rapid City is the closest to. Rapid City's nice, but then they've got the, like, the Black Mountains out there. The Black Forest Mountains. It's just beautiful out there. Beautiful. So that's all I want to do now. Is there supposedly Bigfoot sightings near Mount Rushmore? I don't think there is. That's the funny thing about it. I think I just. It was the only thing that didn't say, like, I heart fucking Mount Rushmore. So I wanted a shirt and I was like, this will kind of do. A Sasquatch type of Mount Rushmore shirt. That's a special kind of person. The person who really loves Bigfoot. I'd love to go to these places and do a little hunting. Duncan and I did it. You want to look around? Go find the guys. Yeah, Duncan, Trussell, and I. I had a show back in 2011 or 12 called Joe Rogan Questions Everything. Yeah. And one of the things we. Like, let's do a deep dive on chemtrails. Let's do a deep dive on UFOs. Let's do a deep dive. And so we did a deep dive on Bigfoot hunters. So we went and met people that met Bigfoot. We took. A lot of it is in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah. That's the hotbed. Yeah. Also, a lot of meth. A lot of meth. A lot of Sasquatch. A lot of heroin. A lot of Sasquatch. There is a car. Are these the Bigfoot sightings? Yeah, look where the big clump is here. Oh, it's in Texas. Yeah, it's Texas. Close to the pod. Is that where the moonshine's made? I have no idea. I just popped it up because I was going to see it. Whoa. Is there any near Austin? But there's, like, there's not. Yeah. There's Bigfoot sightings in Austin? Yeah, there's at least four. One down in Wimberley. Whoa. Are you sure those aren't MedScare with a wig on? Yeah. Let's see what it says. When was that? Airman encounters nighttime encounter on Birdstrom Air Force Base. In 81? On an Air Force base. He might be. Yeah, he might be an alien. September 2013, man has afternoon sighting of large bipedal creature. Afternoon sighting. Man, we're sitting there, drinking moonshine. All of a sudden, this big hairy fella come over to me and wants me to suck his dick. I'm like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. 1980, while two go shoot target practice, two men see upright, hair-covered figure. Homeless guy. Yeah. Could be anything. That was 1980. A guy with a fur jacket on. There was no homeless people in the 80s? Is that what you're saying? There was barely anybody here back then. This is a ghost town. So is the Northwest up in Washington, is that more busy than this? Well, there's a lot of bears up there, and bears walk upright. They do it all the time, and I think that's a lot of it. Also, one of the first things that Duncan and I noticed when we went up there is that when you're in the Pacific Northwest, the trees are so dense because it rains so much, it's like a box of Q-tips. It's like a box of Q-tips. You can't see. You can't see through the trees. There's so many trees. And you just sort of see a shadow. You see a shadow. You see a thing moving. And then in your head, your head starts spinning. I was in Alberta once, and for a second, I thought I saw a wolf, and it was a squirrel. Oh, yeah. It was a squirrel moving through the woods, and I saw the gray, and I think, I was like, what? It was a fucking squirrel. I'm like, what's wrong with me? But my mind had convinced me for a very short amount of time that it was a wolf. Definitely. And I was like, you silly bitch. Where was this? Alberta. Alberta. Nice. Very, again, very dense. Yeah. We did see a wolf up there, I'm pretty sure. It was either a wolf or a big coyote, but it was at dusk, and it was running across the road. But they have wolves up there. Yeah. My friends John and Jen, they run a bear hunting operation up there. Oh, cool. And they send me photos of wolves. They just sent me a photo of a wolf that were over a trail cam today. Wow. That's like kind of all I want to do right now. I'm organized. I'm like a hike in the thoroughfare. Do you know that? In South Yellowstone. Oh, you want to go to the woods? It's not even the woods. It's just like open rolling hills in South Yellowstone near the lake. It's called the thoroughfare. And then you walk to the middle of it. It's 40 miles in any direction from a road. Wow. And it's grizzly country, wolf country, elk, some moose, I believe. You want to go in there? Yeah. That's all I want to do. Why do you want to do that? Just because I just started solo hiking, and it's my favorite thing in the world. So do you get like a big backpack? All your food and a tent in it and the whole deal? Exactly. And then it's the most, I can't even explain it, but it's like a therapeutically, you pack up all your shit, you have no distractions, you make your food, and then you just, all your goal is just march. By yourself? Yeah. And you'll meet people, you'll say hello. I've never done like the thoroughfare that's as wild, but I'm definitely going to do it. But you've done the solo camping where you just put the backpack on. How far deep into the mountains did you go? Oh, I've never gone too crazy. I've gone. I've gone like along the Appalachian Trail and things like that, so you don't see people. But the trail is at least, it's a documented trail. It is a documented trail. You'll have designated campsites, and then there's all like beer safety stuff where you're not allowed to cook where you sleep, and you have the beer hangs and things like that. So. Yeah. I'm excited. You're worried about me? I'm a little worried about you, yeah. Do you bring an inReach or anything? Do you know what that is? Yeah, like a Garmin. Satellite, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've got to buy a Garmin. Yeah. Or is that how you say it? I'm not going to buy one. Yeah. A good expensive one. I've got to get beer spray, things like that. And then it seems like, people do it all the time. I've watched so many just vlogs of people walking around these areas, and as long as you're not stupid and safe, and they get cool videos, they're woken up by the elk, fucking bugling in the morning and all this stuff. Yeah. That's all I want to do is just, I don't have any kids yet, so I'm kind of hoping to get this out of the way before it seems a little too responsible, irresponsible. Yes. If you're going to do the solo hiking and get eaten by a wolf, do it now. But the thoroughfare is down. That's definitely my goal. That's what I want to do. It's eight days. You have to pack all your shit with you and you just head out. You just head out. But something about that, when I'm marching on those, after about 20 minutes, I just, I don't know, I get into this weird fucking head space where I'm just like, march, march, march. And that's all I'm thinking. I'm just empty. Empty head. Yeah. I think I've got too many fucking thoughts going on in there. I think everybody does. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I also think that there's something about being in the woods that's very therapeutic just naturally because that's our, that's our, that's the natural environment where human beings are supposed to be. We're supposed to be in nature. We are a part of nature and we're disconnected by nature by being in cities. And I think there's a little bit of anxiety and weirdness that comes with that and that it goes away when you're out in the woods. It definitely goes away. And I think the simplicity of life is like your phone, you don't have signal, so it doesn't really matter. You have your map out. I'd love to even go a step further and have like a fucking compass and a real map and try to do like orienteering style, but I don't, I don't really have to. I have a bunch of friends who do solo hunts where they go in and hunt. Yeah. Solo. And what do they do? Just all over? What's that? They do this everywhere? Well, you know, you have to go to designated areas and you have to go to like places where you can get a tag, but there's a bunch of places where you can get what's called an over the counter tag or, you know, you put in for a draw, you know, so what it means is like these biologists determine like, say if you're deer hunting, the biologists determine there's excellence. There's an amount of deer in this area and to keep the population healthy, you should remove X amount. Yeah. And so they, they put out generally enough tags to be, it's, most people aren't successful, so it's like they put out more tags probably than they want animals killed. So they'll give you like five tags? No, no. You don't have to get five deer? You would, most likely you'd get one. Okay. You would get one tag, but they'd put tags out for, you know, let's say it's, so there's the way public land works in America. There's certain areas that are restricted units where it takes a long time to get a tag. Like if you want to get like a Nevada elk tag, very hard to get, you might put in for 20 years and then you get one. So it's a tag of a lifetime. And if you get a month, like a Nevada elk tag is a big one because they have giant elk in Nevada. It's a very famous place to elk hunt. Wow. And so people will wait forever. They finally get that tag and then they organize, they get some friends to help them and then they'll go out and they'll, you know, pack in. And, and. These are probably in the kind of mountainous regions of Nevada where the grass is out. Like the Apache reservations in Nevada are famous for elk hunting because it's like some of the best elk hunting territory in the world. And the way it works is the nations control it. So reservations in our country, they're essentially of their own laws and they, they're not subject to the laws of the United States government. So they. Even when they were animals, even with. Yeah. With everything. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's crazy. Like in Canada, they alongside everyone else. So in Canada it's called crown land. That's what public land is in Canada. And if you're on crown land and you're a whitey like me or you, you, you know, you get a tag for a bear or a tag for an elk or a tag for a moose. They can do whatever they want. The indigenous people, they call them first nation people. When we were up there, we were fishing, right? And when you're fishing, you're allowed to catch one walleye a day. So we're on this. We're on this dock and we're catching, but we're next to these natives and they're pulling in walleyes left and right and putting them in buckets. They can catch as many as they want. They can use spotlights at night to shoot moose. So they blind this moose to the spotlight and boom, they're shooting them off the top of trucks. And then they eat moose? Yep. Oh, moose are delicious. Is moose good? Oh, it's delicious. I've never seen one. I want to, I want to see one so bad. I want to go up to the Adirondacks and do some canoeing. If you see a moose. Yeah. The thing about a moose as opposed to every other deer species, they will fucking kill you. They're going to go nuts. They'll kill you. They will stomp you to death. I want to see one from afar. I don't want to get stomped to death by a moose. That's a little too much. The females with their calves are the most dangerous. They're fucking dangerous. They're huge. You don't realize how big they are until you're with them. Yeah. You're like, oh my God. I only went moose hunting once and that was in BC and it is wild when you see one in real life. You can't believe how big they are. Yeah. They're so big. They're enormous and they will fucking kill you. Like they'll kill you because they have to defend themselves. They're around bears and wolves. They're used to stomping things and they weigh 1800 pounds. And they're probably, they kind of waddle in the water a little, right? So you're going to the water canoe and they'll just fucking, well, they won't come after you if you're in a canoe. No, no. They'll come after you if on the, like if you're on the land and they feel like you're too close or you might be a problem. Oh, they're faster than you and me. That's for fuck's sake. They have four legs and big muscles. Yeah. They, they'll fuck you up. Kind of. That's the way I want to go. I want to stomp by a moose. So much. Stomping. Yeah. Getting stomped by a wild animal, standing on a snake while you're on a hike or something like that. That's how you want to go? Kind of tragically hilarious. Yeah. That's a serious thing. And everybody makes fun of me on a podcast going, look at that fucking idiot Colin. Tried to get a fucking selfie with a moose and he fucking got that antler in the back of the head. Have you ever seen that Instagram page, Tourons of Yellowstone? No. Oh. It's just fat idiots getting ran over by a bison. Bisons. Love it. Sending people flying through the air. Did you? Yeah. There was a video last year of this old guy. Some old guy. Yeah. He was a geezer and the bison fucking hit him and he fucking, he did a huge, and he got up, brushed himself off and fucking, he was good. Wow. But it was unlucky because I think the bison chased a car that drove by and then when the car moved away, they were right there. So they were doing their distance right and then they were running around a tree like fucking three stooges trying to get away and then he just caught one and he went. Oh God. And it's like a viral photo of him just being thrown huge in the sky. There's so many people that want selfies with those animals. That was crazy. That was crazy. And to this day, people, there's something about, I'm wondering how many people have died from selfies. Yeah. It's kind of fine though. It's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, there's a lot of traffic and if you, if you're on a cliff getting a selfie and you tumble down. Right. It's kind of okay to me. Or if you're, or if a fucking elephant fucking. It's tragic, but it's. It's tragic. Sure. It's understandable. And especially young people. But not all deaths have to be tragic, do they? For fuck's sake. Well, we're all going to die. And some. Some let deaths are learning experiences for the people that survive. Yeah. Which is the Torons of Yellowstone. It's never happened to me. It's not happened to me. Not yet. That's, that's the New York mentality. When someone gets pushed in front of a train, we all kind of go, that wasn't me. Well, it happens infrequently enough that you're not nervous about it. Yeah. But you know it's a possibility. You don't stand right there and like peek out. I just don't think, yeah, I just don't think that would happen to me. I don't know why. I just have this confident feeling that someone's not going to shove me in front of a fucking train. Really? Something about, I just think of my. They know better. They know better. Yeah. Well, they probably try to do vulnerable people. They fuck little Asian ladies. Yeah, probably. That would be the, that would be the easiest. How many people every year get pushed in front of a train? I think one or two. It's like a big news story usually. Yeah. If even, if even that much. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, I've never gone hunting. I'm organizing a hunting trip. My cousin, he's a hunter in Ireland. Just started. He's a YouTuber now actually. He makes these great videos. Of hunting? Yeah. He hunts in Ireland. He hunts there in the Schliever. He flew mountains. Huge, beautiful. Like they're more like Irish mountains or hills by the way, but like beautiful. So he's a YouTuber now. Kyle Rohn, if anyone wants to go check out this is a shout out to my little cousin. This episode is brought to you by Chime. And I know people don't usually get excited about banking, but Chime is doing something different and it's worth paying attention to. In a recent survey, they ranked the number one choice for new checking accounts in America. That means real people, millions of them are choosing this over traditional. That's because banking at Chime is fee free, no monthly fees, no overdraft fees, and thousands of fee free ATMs. But here's the real kicker. 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Let me go again. 2010. 2010, okay. You'll say 2010. I'll say 1,700. Okay. I'll go low. Way too high. Way too high? Really? I mean, this is just reported, so it's 425 deaths linked, over 49 countries, I would have to say since 2011 or so. But how many of them get reported? That's what I'd say. Like, if a guy falls off a mountain, how do you know how he fell off the mountain? Well, you ever see that fellow who got caught killing his wife? I think it was India. Maybe I'm wrong, but they were getting photos, and he kept going a little further, but he didn't realize people were up on another cliff to see it, and then he ran over to her and just shoved her off the fucking thing. And people were watching? People were watching. People were watching from afar. They saw him fucking shove her. He almost got away with it. But then he would have to come down and be like, oh, she wanted a photo. Oscar, look at this. Oscar Otero Aguilar died accidentally shooting himself while posing for a selfie with a loaded handgun. That's happened a few times more recently, too. That's in Mexico City. Taj Mahal, India. A disputed example. Japanese tourist. He's widely reported to have died falling on stairs while taking a selfie at the Monument's Royal Gate. An eyewitness described a selfie-related fall, but a police official told AFP the postpartum found a heart attack. Okay. Right. But if I fall off a cliff because I'm taking a selfie, it's the fucking head wound that kills me, but the selfie didn't kill me. So that's kind of, it's the selfie led to the heart attack, no? Maybe. Maybe. This is going to evolve into being caught while live streaming. Maybe he had a heart attack when he realized he was falling down the stairs and he's 66 years old and he realized, oh my God, I'm going to die. So he had a heart attack. That's possible, too, because you do freak out when you realize, like, oh my God, I might die. And then your heart's like, check, please. I'm about to die right now. But that means he's probably on the way to dying anyway. That's what killed him? Just a little bit of a freak out from falling down a flight of stairs? Yeah. You know? Work on your core strength, sir. Have you ever thought you were going to die? Have you ever, like, really were like. I was in an accident when I was 14, not an accident with a car. We were hanging out in this, it was like this place that had these giant sewer pipes, like these huge cement sewer pipes. And there was this crane, this attachment that would lift up the pipes, like it would slide into the pipes and they would put it on a crane to lift them up. And we were fucking around and something happened and we were climbing up the stairs and there was this thing on this thing and it fell and it hit me on the head. It hit me on the back of the head. I still have a scar on the back of my head. And it hit me so hard that my consciousness grayed out and I survived, but I thought I was dying. I was convinced I was dying. And I was 14. I had to go to the hospital, just blood everywhere. I still have this gash. How did they deal with it back then? Did they just sort of say, hey, toughen up? Well, they said, you're okay. You're not dead. Yeah. That's how they just. Melted it in the 80s or whatever. I don't even know if I got stitches because it's a pretty significant scar. It's like right here, right on that. But if I was here instead of here, I'd be dead. Yeah. So it grazed my head. Like this thing dinged the back of my head and could have easily crushed my skull. I mean, it was this huge metal thing that they used to pick up these huge cement tubes. Yeah. And it banged my head. Yeah. I thought I was dead. I did. I thought it was going. Like it hit me so hard and it was so big and the pain was so extreme. And I didn't go unconscious, but I got real close like this. Yeah. You were rough for sure. Like more consciousness. And everything went gray. And I was like, oh my God, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And my friends had to take me to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. It was very scary. I think my friends took me to my parents. My parents took me to the hospital. It's hard to remember it all because it was so traumatic. But I thought at that moment I was dead. Wow. You were like saying goodbye to everybody. No. I was just like, ah! I was just terrified. Like I've never even done anything. Now I'm dead. For being retarded. Yeah. Being a dumb kid. I went to Laos years ago. I traveled Southeast Asia when I was younger. Then Thailand, Vietnam, Laos. Or Laos as sometimes people call it. But the whole place there is built on like a tubing economy where they just. You get in a tube and you float down a river from bar to bar. Yeah. It's like this cool party thing. Everywhere you go there's a DJ and each place has like a slide. Each bar has a slide. So you get in this tube at the start of the day where they drive you up to the top of the mountain. You jump in the water. You float. And then there's these little seven-year-old Thailand boys with a water bottle full of water on a fucking rope. And they're swinging it. And there's like six of them. And they're like swinging it. And they'll fly through the sky like fucking arrows from the fucking Indians flying. And they'll land, boom, right in your lap. And they'll fucking. They'll fucking pull you in. And you'll flip them with like a fucking euro or whatever it was. They're DJ kids because that's their job. And, I mean, they had a fucking accuracy like insane. You want to see talented people, like people in Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, because they learn just one thing since they're fucking can stand. And it was incredible. But I was over it. I don't know. One of these places had this cliff you would jump off. And then you'd land on this big inflatable like cushion, I said, massive, like 20 feet wide. And I jumped on it, fell off it. And then whatever happened to something, which is natural in the water. And I went down. Someone else jumped on it. And the thing kind of rotated around. So then I came up. I'm just fucking trapped under this whole thing. And then I said, fuck, I swam. And I tried to swim somewhere else. But it followed me up. And then I fucking hit it again. So I'm just like. Then I remember I started to panic. And then I do remember specifically going, relax, don't panic. And I swam down. And I just swam. And apparently I swam for like fucking so far. And then I came up like. And everyone was worried about me. Everyone was fucking crazy. Holy fuck. Yeah. Because people died down there. I think they kind of shut that down. That used to be like the coolest. That was like the last fun Southeast Asia thing where white people could die. And it didn't matter. It just sort of didn't matter. It's like, yeah, welcome to fucking Vietnam, baby. You're going to die here. But it's so much fun. Well, before the internet, people would die. And it would only be a local story. Great. What a nice time. To not have to hear about every fucking person that goes through trouble. That's true. That's a big problem with society today is that we are inundated by the bad news of the whole world. So 8 billion people worth of bad news. And then the visual stuff of the amount of people I've seen die is crazy. And the amount of things I've experienced through these fucking screens that should not, you know. Right. Versus what you've actually seen in real life. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big problem. And it's a big problem. Like, desensitizing young people. Like, they used to think that, like, video games desensitized young people. And I'm sure they do. I'm sure, like, being able to shoot a bunch of people in Call of Duty definitely does some kind of thing to your brain. It's an unusual thing. And people are blood splattering all over the place. And you're like, fuck yeah. You're having fun. But then when you're seeing it live all the time. Like, when I was a kid, until Faces of Death came out. No. Tapes that came out in the 19. God, I want to say it's the 1980s they came out. And it was a collection of videos of people dying. One of them was this guy. They attached him to. I think they attached him to cars. Like, they tied his arms and legs and then pulled him apart. And you see a bunch of things. One of them, the famous one, was Bud Dwyer. Yeah. You know, from that song, Hey Man, Nice Shot. Yeah. Like, that guy, he. He got caught in some corruption thing. I believe it was in Pennsylvania. I think it was. Anyway, puts a.44 Magnum in his mouth and just blows his brains out in front of everybody. It's funny that whatever that scandal was back then. Unpaid fucking parking tickets or some shit. That was going to rock his whole life and embarrass the family. It's like, nowadays, it's like, you've got to be caught with a child on your fucking lap before you fucking admit it or retire or anything like that. There's a meme that I just found the other day. Hold on a second. He had rotten.com. That was my generation's version. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Rotten.com. I remember being, like, eight years old and my cousins showing me a photo of a man with his hard dick in a fish's mouth. I remember it so young. And it would load. So you would just. Right. And you'd have to wait and it would load. And then you'd go, is that a fish? And then it was just cock in his mouth. Hard cock in this guy's mouth. And you were like, what? Yeah. And then they'd show you another suicide guy. You were just everywhere. Meanwhile, that's normal now. It's so normal. Yeah. There's these, like, I think society might be better with. I don't know. It's like freedom versus fucking, you know, the good of society. But I think having a couple of walls in place for me to see a man with a cock in a fish would be good for people. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a constant battle of, like, do we have speed and limits? Do we not? Well, I think that's more extreme because it's shaping your mind. like you're you're getting access to information that formulates your worldview and that that information is not necessary like you maybe don't need to see a guy mouth fuck a fish you know the fish is so mild today i know that's what's nuts like today that's like we've seen so and it's desensitized people to an extreme level like i don't know how much of an effect it's had on how people behave but it has to have a giant it definitely hasn't had an effect on how people communicate online to each other they're much shittier to each other than they were back then yeah i think they can't maybe they realize that you know being online is kind of a there's a distance you know so it doesn't feel like you're really being human to that meme i sent you oh no sorry i was reading about bud weir i did stuff i'd never heard that's great he was facing 55 years for what a big scandal about some you know he i don't know i could i could see the suicide rata down 55 hard years the part that's crazy is that he had the speech that no one knew he was going to give and it was it's gone on for 30 minutes and halfway through it the press was getting ready to leave and he says some of these are putting cameras away i think you ought to stay because we're not finished yet wow that's great way to go 30 minutes yeah 30 minute speech and then well i would have been happy it was over sure i will go back to that do it myself what does it say uh school go down a little further down down down yeah there we go uh dwyer alleged that his legal woes were political persecution due to his refers refusal to grant a travel voucher for governor dick thurber's wife for a trip to europe alleging that thurnborough said uh that he would get dwyer and that thurnborough referred to him as the fat fuck i'm not going to lie i'm not going to lie dwyer spoke out against the death penalty and expressed regret for voting in favor while he was in the pennsylvania assembly speech lasted for nearly 30 minutes and then he blew his brains out whoa he faced 55 years in a big fine and like his co-conspirator got one year oh someone threw him under the bus yeah i'm surprised there's not more suicides like that constantly yeah like a big fucking show i guess that's what it like a mass shooting suicide thing is but i mean just a suicide as like this is the meme politicians in 1996 i smoked pot once but i didn't inhale politician 2026 i a child but i didn't eat it and that guy's face that guy's sweaty face that's so funny i mean that's so funny growing up but people said i never i didn't i smoked but i didn't inhale as if that was like this weird right and then obama was like i did coke like whoa did he say that yeah awesome yeah good for him he definitely said he smoked weed i mean there's pictures of him smoking weed good what were we just talking about just before that i don't know oh no was it the rotten.com stuff you guys were getting into the fish no no no no but just much more recently i had a suicide people doing a fun suicide for everyone to see maybe that's it i can't remember big showcase i lost my thought but i had a thought are these are these stars that you have because they're shooting by there sometimes they shoot by yeah are they is this like a replica of the of the actual night skies this is just a bunch of you guys we we me and a few comics last week went out to big bend one of the most fun things we've ever done in oregon uh no no sorry uh no big ben's here oh big bend big ben national park it's south texas it's like the darkest region of oh um that's the darkest region one of them yeah down there so it's a designated night place so all the lights go off but we went out there yeah that's exactly where we stayed at the chisels mountains look how beautiful it's insane how nice it is out there and there was tarantulas walking around and because it's mating season they came over we're climbing on our and stuff no it's so cool it was cool but i look so we sat out at night the sunset would go down and we would watch the the stars come out and we would sit there for seven hours just staring at them and leaning back in our tommy bahama chairs wow we did a little lsd and then just looked at the stars all night it was one of the most insane things i've ever done but i've never i'd after that i feel like i'd i'd never seen the sky truly until i went out there right it was unrecognizable yeah you couldn't pick out the big dipper or anything like that because there were so many stars it was a mess yeah isn't that beautiful it was so cool it was the i i would recommend everyone alive head out the big band look at the stars do a little acid if you feel like it really think about how insignificant you are and my buddy tim butterly who's an amazing comedian he's he's in austin from philly he's one of the philly boys he brought his telescope with him he has this huge big telescope and we searched we're able to see saturn when you could see saturn's rings like in detail through the telescope and it truly was crazy acid on acid looking at saturn and you're just going what the yeah and it's quiet it's quiet out there it's quiet it's quiet it's quiet out there because people are camping all around you but it's quiet so like you'll hear someone from not far away just in this tent you know in the middle of the night some guy whacking off in the tent whacking off at the tent is crazy you could be out there staring at the stars on acid but you're like no one more night i gotta get in there yeah i think i'm a great date in high school but we yeah but that was that was that's a cool place to go out there it's not it's like eight hours from here but we are denied that image cities in as great as they are they've us and that we we have a disconnect with the universe now yeah you used to be able to every night you would see that in the sky that would be what i would do for entertainment if that was the sky in new jersey i would sit out my backyard of course and i would stare at that all night yeah and you're and at the beginning of the night saturn's there and then you think i'll watch for another hour and four five hours later you're just staring as this thing rotates and you can see the milky way which i've never seen before yeah there was like little clusters of that i'd never seen before and you're just and the reason why you can't see it is all just light pollution yeah there was a a time when um we went out to the big island to uh with my family to the keck observatory and this is i've been there three times this is hawaii yeah but i've only seen it really once and uh the big island you drive you actually drive through the clouds like we as we were driving up to the observatory like ah it's cloudy out we're not gonna see this sucks let's just keep going yeah but then as you keep going up the mountain you pop through the clouds nice and then you get to this observatory and the sky is magnificent i caught it one night where there was no moon out and that's what perfect yeah you want no moon and the sky was just littered with stars crazy it seemed like we were on an organic spaceship that's what it seemed like it did not seem like we were on earth it seemed like it was like a convertible spaceship and we're flying through the universe it was incredible and then you don't realize then you go back to your city stars and you're like yeah it's not enough it's just not enough a couple of dots it's not enough it's weird that weird trade-off but it's like that weird trade-off has allowed us to do so much but yet it has disconnected us from just our place in the universe it's very humbling and i think that humbling thing is very important people just to put it all into perspective to be able to see the stars and go wow wow what the man and that's just all you can see this is just one puny little galaxy yeah that's hundreds of billions of galaxies in an infinite universe it can get a little thinking about it can get a little heavy oh yeah because then you kind of start to go why do we care about anything right you know what's supposed to put it into perspective when you're looking at little tiny insignificant things that are freaking you out yeah you know little weird things like the guy at work he's gonna me i'm not gonna get that promotion and you're also like okay this is a bigger picture there is a way bigger picture than safeway where i work at or whatever yeah yeah being upset that the next netflix subscription's gone up or whatever right you know whatever it is it's bothering you yeah these goddamn liberals ruining the country sure exactly star so we we had a funny moment we were all lying out at this um just decked out looking at the stars enjoying it and we're quiet because it's late at night it's two o'clock in the morning and just tense everywhere it's quiet as shit and mike rainey who's a comedian he does dad meet podcast he was like i'm going to bed guys i'm off the bed he gets into his tent and it's quiet and i'm staring and you're thinking about like all of the previous humans that have looked at the same stars and the same thing and in the middle just out of his tent you just hear out of nowhere just wow wow wow wow it's fun to stay at the watch and i mean that echoed through this and it just echoed through the mountains he had gotten into bed and whatever way he opened up his phone but there was no signal one of the last things on his timeline was the ymca song which is when you excuse yourself from a bunch of boys look at the stars and get into a tent and then the loudest most embarrassing gayest song of all time goes bellowing like there was people in other tents we were crying laughing so hard because we were trying not to laugh but there was other people we could hear other people's tents start to laugh that's because we laughed for 25 minutes crying and we're like what the mike and he just he never said anything he was too embarrassed and i'll yeah uh that's hilarious one of the most fun trips ever that song isn't it weird that that song became a part of trump's campaign campaign yeah how odd like what i went to the inauguration one of the weird things about the inauguration was that the village people were performing at one of the after parties what's left of they were there yeah which one i don't know whatever ones are left what was he wearing the thing is like you could have a new cop you could have nobody knows who anybody is there's some purists out there there's a couple of village people aficionados you guys i saw what i yeah i saw the village people the real village people i saw them at that prime yeah back in the 70s when they're all alive that's some fucking gay orgy thing going on yeah yeah it's fun to stay it became the anthem of it's just a gay anthem i guess it's but it also became the anthem of the trump administration like he would go out there and do a little dancing like what yeah i don't know young man it's very weird right yeah but see you see his um nicki minaj's ass thing going on now no so nicki minaj is like a big trump girl which is so odd yeah what do you think that's all about needs to sell cds or something i don't know like i don't get it why why the fuck would nicki minaj also i'd be embarrassed to bring her out and go hey look at this fucking remember nicki minaj who used to rap about having a fat ass 10 years ago she thinks i'm cool that's like a bizarre fucking it's like embarrassed if you're a fan of his he'll take you in but he brought her out he's like nicki minaj is great she goes he goes she got a great ass he says yeah he goes can't miss that ass he goes show up show him nicki and nicki got up and did a little nicki did a little fucking spin for the crowd oh my god he might be going for a third turn with nicki's ass fucking vice president well there's people that think there's some sort of a loophole bro i gotta piss let's let's come back yeah okay we're back nice and we're back where were we ymca wow let me see that can we see the video pull up nicki's ass there did you see the breakup letter he wrote to bill maher no trump did trump found the ladder it's a breakup letter it's like a girl who got dumped who's like fuck him and he's always a loser and like that kind of thing he's really crazy but bill maher was like anti-trump and then he fucking had dinner with him and then he's a couple times great guy and had dinner with him recently and then went on his show and i guess he said some things about how trump is losing support in the polls or whatever it was and trump wrote this long fucking screed the scroll that he put on truth social about uh bill maher's a fucking loser and he was like he was drunk at the white house he needed a drink yeah it's just he he is a gift that does not stop giving even if you don't want the gift you know there's gonna be two things this doesn't have her in it but this is definitely a quote he said i'm studying him and then i made the mistake i told in fun i said i looked at his ass and i've never done that with a man before it's true off the record women yes men no okay by the way i looked at one hell of a beautiful ass before nicky minaj that that is so crazy that's hard to miss that's stand up that's hard to miss it's hard to miss is she showing her ass to everybody she's twerking or something over there that anaconda okay i'm gonna get back to my story i hope nicky wasn't insulted but we love nicky we love nicky so crazy it's crazy that politicians used to be so straight laced or like she's he's staring at her oh yeah she's up there talking in her custom fucking louis vuitton the crazy thing is all politicians swear now do they yeah yeah they swear that was unheard of you never heard a president swear but now they all swear it's super calm i don't like it i like the idea of having a politician swear i don't like it i like the idea of having a politician swear i don't like it i like the idea of having a politician who's fucking full of shit he's kind of straight yeah full of shit full of shit doesn't talk like a real human yeah but you kind of like that kind of yeah i think the guy in charge should be a little bit fucking reserved yeah yeah i don't want them under control writing letters to bill maher see that pull up the letter to bill maher it's crazy yeah wait till you read it fucking it's so long the only files released in the letters i don't even think what bill maher said was that bad i think the thing that got him was saying that trump lost all of his support with the republican party yeah and then he pulls up he's lost a lot not according to him according to him there's a cnn poll this is like 98 of republicans part of his magic though yeah you can find a poll here it is the polls are fake let's talk about this complete and total loser all caps bill maher let's talk about him he got a low-rated show on equally low-rated hbo which was once long ago a network of quality and excitement but that's all gone it's not hot all caps anymore exclamation point maher's friend and business associate chuck labella was also a friend of mine worked on the top hit show the apprentice as a gopher and because of the success of that show number one and top rated on many weeks with the finale being among the best on the top shows of the year he was automatically and quickly brought up through the ranks of nbc along with everyone else associated with the historic happening in all cap in uh quotes rather i don't know why happening is in quotes the success of the apprentice was so great that everyone partook it built many careers and that is a wonderful thing some people this is wordy some people say it even built my career because i became president i would have one without it Exclamation point. In any event, over the last few years, LaBella would call me nonstop and say, hello, be very nice and tell me how much Bill Maher loves and respects me and would constantly ask of me even before I was president for any form of meeting with Maher. And would I do his show? When I became president, I agreed to meet after the first one and the last one, but never agreed to do his show, which he wants me to do desperately. All caps. It won't happen. Exclamation point. When I've watched the show, which isn't often, it always ends with dishonesty about me at least. But who cares? He doesn't think it was a good thing to take the nuclear weapon away from Iran, which shows you he's not very smart. If I allowed them to obtain a nuclear weapon, the world would be a different place right now. Exclamation point. Using fake polls. I like how he capitalizes fake and polls. He also said I had my lowest rating so far. Even the Republican Party doesn't like him, in quotes. But that's not true. I have high ratings. And more importantly, he said that I'm losing the support and approval of the Republican Party when, in fact, CNN just came out with a poll showing them I'm at 98 and 99 percent support within the Republican Party and all time record high. All capitalizes all capitalizes the T in time. The R in record and the H in high, which I don't understand. Ronald Reagan was at 86 percent. CNN's Harry Enten also said I am the most influential president of the last century. Is this after the Ellisons bought CNN? Also on HBO, which is confusing when he's talking shit. I mean, he has a lot of time on his hands. CNN did another poll. The most popular person in the history of the Republican Party. And I won. That, too, with me being at 53 percent, Ronald Reagan being at 18 percent and Abraham Lincoln being at 8 percent. This is crazy. These CNN polls, people not exactly in love with me. So Bill Maher lied, but he lies about everything. And I believe he lied to me when I asked him with all the applause and laughter he gets after almost everything he says about things that aren't funny or even good. What laughter machine does he use? Laughter and machine have capital L and a capital M. People can't think he's funny. You know what? He might be right about that, though. You think there's a laugh track? It's not funny. I know that. Yeah, but people, like, love it. And they're there live and they get enthusiastic. It's the rhythm. Have you ever been to a live taping? Yeah. Live taping of a show. They have, like, a person that does this thing and says applause. And they have, like, a producer with a headset on. It's like, applaud, applaud, applaud. Okay, a laughter machine about things that aren't funny or even good. I don't know Bill. He didn't know me, and that was okay. I didn't know Bill. Then Chuck LaBella and my friend Kid Rock called me incessantly about meeting with Bill Maher. My first response was, fellas, this guy's a goofball. They said he wants to go down to the White House, be with you and talk. He said you're smart, but you're not into the liberal platform. Will you start thinking about it? He invited himself to the White House! We had our first meeting. Bill was very nervous. He asked, for a drink. He was very insecure, and he had a seriously bruised eye and nose area as though somebody had just beaten him up. But it wasn't me. What? No sooner had we had that first dinner at the White House, which is a very seductive and beautiful place, especially now that I have fully renovated and fixed it in the stock. which it deserves thank god bill wanted to come back uh the gopher called me many times multiple times saying how much he loves me and that he respects me more than anybody and he wants to come back for a second meeting after 10 calls from chuck labella it seemed that these guys were serious and wanted to learn more because their policies are so bad it's ridiculous exclamation also i wanted to tell bill that he is that he's a major pothead all caps he's gotta stop it's very bad for his health this is a guy this is the guy that's eating mcdonald's all day he's walking around the room saying this to someone typing it out and he's just looking around another thing he looked like hell this time bill was drunk and had alcohol in his hand as he walked through the white house stephen a smith and kid rock came along with him overall i thought it was good meeting it didn't last four hours it lasted two hours and he was like oh my god i'm gonna maybe less and everybody was happy we have the time stamps i learned nothing and felt it was a waste of time after the first dinner bill maher was friendly i guess everyone walked away pleased he gave me a good first show with a lot of laughing machine laughter and laughing machine and laughing and machine the l and m are capitalized which is a real term uh but it is what it is and then he reverted back to his former self and his old ways i understand that he's doing his thing i never took it personally i'd always mock his low ratings whenever i heard he's not a nice guy and what he spouts isn't what he believes he has to cater to his base which is mostly composed of losers there's a capital l and losers and people who don't like working it's why for so long i didn't get another call from chuck labella and i didn't miss him one bit after the second dinner bill's show in quotes was far worse than the first he went crazy exclamation point he's gutless because he enjoyed every minute also i'm not building a swimming pool in the white house briefing room and never had any intention of doing so i am thinking about moving the press and putting them in a different location but i will use that location for very badly needed space bill also attacked our great republican candidates when he knows my endorsement record is 98 in the house and 100 in the senate so how can you make a false statement like this these statistics are facts all caps and he should speak about them but he won't because he's very unfair exclamation point caroline levitt was great this is so wordy on the show but he started a buy but he he started with a bias dumb sleazebag all caps asking questions she defended me and herself so well but couldn't be comfortable going against lie after lie capital l and lies uh importantly bill lied about all the illegal voters in the radical controlled decrepit and devastated state of california just in the last few days alone they found 20 000 and the number could easily go to over 1 million there are so many falsehoods bill spewed but i won't waste time in fact checking all caps him he isn't worth it bill don't call me anymore it's useless and tell chuck labella not to call so much and say how much you love trump all caps in quotes and want to get together because you're a hopeless guy who is just trying to cater to your small group of fans in quotes you're also a coward who's afraid to tell the truth about how well our country is running because of your few fans in quotes and how badly the dumocrats have done almost destroying the usa if i hadn't won the election it would be dead all caps also turn your laughing machine off brings it back it's a joke when they laugh uncontrollably even when you said nothing funny and i'm going to have to have the report you're a loser capital l and loser i never watched your show much but i will never watch it again because it's nothing more than fake news all caps that america and the world is unfortunately subjected to thank you for your attention to this matter president donald j trump it has 4.64 000 retruths nice at the time i'm sure more now sure weird like there's got to be just questions about how much time he has to write that there's such a minor thing and everyone's got but i think the people around him probably just go he'll be distracted for a couple of hours let him go let him work on his little blog let him go work on his little blog and just and we'll try correct the decisions he made earlier today i think he gets very upset when people talk about the polls do you think the person writing it knows what to capitalize or i think he has to go back i think he says he has to capitalize the l and lies nope you didn't get losers right capitalize loses yesterday and did i mention the laughter track yet put fans in quotes maybe they didn't the laugh machine yeah i just don't know why um i mean that's not something i would ever do i don't understand he balances his time oddly yeah well how much he must have a lot of time because it hasn't his like worth like quadrupled in the last two years well it's definitely gone up with the coin right the trump coin that was a big one but i think across the board he's his money's going up so he must have a lot of time to be president and also become five x's billions well i would imagine he has people doing that too right yeah and that's probably why some of it is that's that's the best thing about america is that like a lot of countries would probably have a so that the most powerful man couldn't get the crow that much in wealth well it's not like it's not like it's not that it should be the case with the entire government that they shouldn't be able to profit off of it his net worth has increased an estimated 2.7 billion to 4.1 billion since winning the 2024 presidential election bringing his total net worth to roughly 6.4 billion that's a lie it's more than that see um see i don't know what that is um how much of it is stuff that i would disagree with right so the the the meme coin's crazy the meme coin like it was like a pump and dump essentially wasn't it yeah well they all are well hannah biden just did one of those yeah they all do it i mean if you're gonna put out a fucking meme coin that i mean they're almost all pump and dumps and even if they're not like whoever's putting money into it they're pumping it up and with the idea that it's gonna hit a peak and they gotta know when to bail yeah it's like everyone's doing that it's a ponzi scheme yeah yeah and the president did it and it's also i think it's a way to launder money um so like is that better so this is one of the things that hunter biden was accused of with his artwork and so he was selling his and i use artwork in quotes like trump would use it his artwork was selling for like a half a million dollars for a painting and you look at the painting like what the fuck is that yeah this is who the fuck is paying a half a million dollars if you wanted to give someone money but you couldn't just legally give the money what you could do was say why don't you draw a picture and i'll buy that picture and that's all you have to do yeah and that's the same thing like with a meme coin so let's let's say we're gonna do a column coin let's do it let's launch it let's do it we're gonna launch it that's unofficial by the way i'm gonna probably do it they'll probably do it i'm gonna go there's millions well you know i have to go buy it now yeah there you go buy column coin so if you wanted to do that the way those coins work is there's an initial investment that goes in so you get a bunch of people that to invest actual real money in this coin right and then there's a bunch of people buy into the coin so they buy the coin yeah so if you're a person that uh like if i wanted to bribe you right and i said uh listen what we're gonna do is we're gonna start this meme coin and uh my country is gonna put in 300 million dollars into this meme coin and this country's gonna put in x that's kind of and and then you know once it gets a certain level where we'll pull out you'll you're gonna be worth billions and then you say yes to that and whether you're hunter biden or whether you're trump or a wide variety of people have done these things this the hawk to a lady did it yeah right she had one and i think she she legitimately i think was unsophisticated and didn't really know what was going on they rug pulled her yes but i think i don't know what i'm just being nice um but i'm being nice by calling her a stupid idiot well young kid she's fucking 20 years old i think so i actually agree i would have been completely retarded if she's not around anymore so that's kind of she is around is she yeah i thought she i thought she like went back to working and fucking wendy's or whatever instagram is she yeah she's still out there she's still hot is she still spitting on that thing i don't know she don't spit like she used to now that she's rich silk sheets and these bitches get rich and they stop spitting stop spitting it's a great sophisticated now big shit you know yeah got caviar in your teeth but the point is you could put a bunch of money into a meme coin that person gets the meme coins and then pulls that money out and then you're like oh my god i'm gonna be rich i'm gonna be rich and then that's legal you see what i'm saying yeah and so that's a way to give someone money it's all legal and we all just kind of tolerate it i guess well it's weird the whole meme coin market is weird like who's who's running out the door to put all their life savings into the melania coin yeah it's an odd it's an odd thing the guys who know that's us yeah guys you know that like there's a way somebody made money some people made money and clearly he made money like what does it say trump made his money from cryptocurrency cryptocurrency nice Fake money. Why can't you be president and earn $2 billion on the side? A little passive income. Well, the weird thing is it's legal. This is the thing. So he's done nothing wrong in terms of the eye of the law. This is the fact. He is a businessman. In the eye of society, we kind of understand that this is a kind of a conflict of interests, right? For sure. Not something that looks good to the average person. This guy is making billions of dollars from being in. The idea, what we would hope, this is the thing, the goal that we would strive for, is to have someone who's a president and what they really want only is for the good of the American people. That person would be shot early on. Sorry. That's not what this is. Sorry. They don't want that person to be making billions while they're in office. Also, that person will run on honesty. They'll lose an election. And then next election, they'll lie. They'll stay true to their fucking teeth because they go, I lost it on honesty before. Now I'm corrupt. You'll get voted out. If you turn around and go, hey, everything sucks and it's going to suck for a long time. There's interesting stuff that I just found out here. It says Trump making money from crypto is not automatically illegal, even while president. Yeah. But particular details could be unlawful if they involve bribery or prohibited benefits from foreign government. All right. He lives in that space, though. Is that illegal? Right. So it's now. Concrete legal challenge. October 22nd, 2026, federal civil lawsuit alleges that Trump unlawfully benefited from two UAE linked world liberty financial transactions, a $500 million purchase, a 49% stake by an entity backed by UAE national security advisor Sheikh Taqnoon bin Zayed Al Nahang. How do you say that? Nah. I couldn't even guess. Nahyan. $2 billion purchase of world liberty. USD1 stable coin by an Abu Dhabi investment fund chaired by Taqnoon. The transaction amount is not the same as Trump's personal profit. Lawsuit alleges unconstitutional foreign emoluments, emoluments, emoluments, emoluments and seeks discourse, disclosure rather, and return of allegedly unlawful profits. So what is it? It's unlawful that the Abu Dhabi Sheikh put, bought into it? Is that what's unlawful? I believe so. Foreign entity. You know, I'm just trying to stick to stand up. Including main financial conflict provision that means a financial interest that will require an extraordinary executive branch official to step aside does not automatically create the same statutory violation for the president. That exemption is written into law. It isn't unique to Trump, but it's on a blanket exemption from anti-corruption law or the constitution. Okay. Look at the whole fucking crypto world is weird. They try to get us to do a crypto coin. They're the contact. Joe coin. And what they're a Jerry coin or something like, fuck off. Like, what are you talking about? That's not real money. Like, what are we doing here? But it's a loophole. It's a loophole. And this, this is, this is the thing. Like if it's legal, like what, if you can do it and you're a businessman. Yeah. You're a guy who was like, that's your whole thing. Make, make, make as much money as possible. Yeah. It's clearly a big part of his whole thing is to make a ton of money and you can make the money. And he's like, I'm still doing great for the country. Yeah. Get a little for myself on the side. Yeah. I don't know. I think we've had our fill of Trump though. That Trump was all the fun. And now it's kind of just, it's my whole time living here has been pretty much just dominated by Trump. And I feel like it's like things need to, well, I think things up a little things like that letter to Bill Maher are not the best, like that's, that's not a good look. One of the worst things he's ever done. That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah. I got out of it though. I got sucked in member with the Iran fucking, uh, war and invasion or whatever way you want to call it. And I was like listening to fucking just too much like friend tears and Dave Smith all day. And I'm, I just had to kind of just turn my phone off one day, went fucking out into the woods and stuff. But then there's two arguments, right? If you turn your phone off and don't pay attention, then all the craziness just keeps going. It keeps going on and your life eventually gets affected by it because they start bombing us. Sure. Like, you know, that maybe it's better to pay attention and to just keep your eye on whatever the fuck is boiling. When does bombs dropping? I'll fucking put on a little front desk and find out what's going on. Well, a lot of people are worried that after the midterms, so when the midterms are over, that that's when they're going to start doing more shit in Iran. Okay. That this isn't done yet. Have I drank all that on you? No, no, no, bro. Um, but there's a lot of people that. I can't believe that. Yeah. It's all going to start popping off again in Iran because it's like it's not resolved. No. I mean, they have to have people. Yeah, real blunder, real disaster. Not good. It doesn't look good. It's actually kind of, kind of pathetic, actually, honestly, on a world scale. It doesn't look good for America to not be able to just wipe out fucking country. Well, it's not just that. It just doesn't seem like it was something that was. Every other president was the attempt to talk them into doing this. Yeah. They tried. They tried to talk Obama into doing it. They tried to talk Biden into doing it. Nobody did it. Who's there? Whoever wants us to bomb Iran that might live in Israel. Not saying anything. Could be them. It could have been the Swedes. It could be anyone. Well, it could have been the Russians. Yeah. Uh-huh. That's the fun one. They always like to blame everything on the Russians. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, you know, look, this, the thing that disappoints everybody who supported Trump before he got into office was one of his big things. What everybody agreed with was no more war. Yeah. Like, please, that sounds great. No more war. That'd be great. Because we keep thinking, like, why are we involved in these unnecessary wars? Because we always assume there's so much money involved in politics because the military industrial complex has a huge amount of cash. They influence politicians. They influence policy. They need more war so they could sell more weapons. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like, this is the feeling of exhaustion where it's like, I'm going to turn this off. I'm going to go to Alaska. I'm going to see some fuck. I'm going to see some fucking bears. I'm going, I'm doing a weekend of shows in Anchorage and I'm hoping to go to, uh, Katmai National Park. Do you know it? Where the bears like catch the salmon coming out. Oh yeah. I'm going in September. So it's a little different, but. Is it past the salmon run by then? It's over. So they, they, they go to a different section. They're not jumping out and they're catching them out, but they still catch the salmon at a different section. So I'm hoping to go out there and camp overnight, but they, you camp in a, in like a fenced off electric, uh, gate. Gate type of thing, but you camp out there. Have you ever been over there to do any of that? I've been to Anchorage. Ari and I went over there and we went salmon fishing. Yeah. We went salmon. We, we had a two day thing. Yeah. That's nuts. So I got it. I got a trip. I'm doing a bunch of shows, uh, columnterrell.com for all my tickets. Oh, check out the special, by the way. Sorry, just to interrupt. A new special right now on YouTube called Bells and Whistles. Please check it out. Leave a comment if you like. Anyway, back to the grizzly bears. Yeah. This is what I'm going to go do and take photos of bears. Um, but it's like, it does a limited amount of time. It does a limited amount of spaces. So they have like cabins, but the cabins are like $700 a night or something. Or you can sit in a tent with the bears for $12 a night. And I'll go, I'll, I'll do that. Well, that's the more authentic experience. You don't want to be behind a door. But these bears are so well fed that they, they've no interest in you. Yeah. I just watched a thing about the lions in fucking, is it Botswana? Do you know the guy on Instagram, grizzly guy or grizzly guy? And he has this, he does these shows. I think they're called. Uh, endless venture. Yeah. And he goes all over the world. He just, he just did a thing in, uh, in, um, the, uh, the tundra up in fucking Alaska where it was like 24 hours sunlight and they went looking for grizzly bears or polar bears, real fascinating stuff. But they went on a trip to Botswana and the lions there are so well fed that the lions won't attack you as a human. So they had this cool. Yeah. This guy's fucking awesome. I love this fella. Wow. He's just hanging out with lions. And they'll. So they'll sit down and they get into a decent, like non-threatening position and they put out like a call, like an injured something. And then this pack of lions, you see the lions just slowly spread out and they all follow the main fucking leader. And then he gets right up to them and then they see them and they stare at each other and everyone's quiet and they stare for like five minutes. And then the lion goes and just sort of plops down and they're just sitting there surrounded by a pride of fucking lions in the middle of this Delta, whatever it's called, the Oak or something Delta. Where like it's one of the wildest. That's the, and they sleep at night, they camp and they have to keep the fire on all night so that elephants don't trample them in the thing. So like someone's job is to wake up every hour to keep the lion, the elephants away. And just hear them in the middle of the night. Yeah. And you could probably feel them walking around. That's a mountain lion. No, just for showing you. I got one. This is the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so he's done, does a bunch of stuff like this. Yeah. I think he was on my friend Cam Haynes' show. He's cool. I want to, I'd love, I'd love to fucking do something with him someday. This is like, they went out to. Well, I'll bet he'll reach out. You can go do something. Please reach out and bring me to somewhere really scary and cool. That's really what you like to do, huh? That's, that's all I want to do. Yeah? Yeah. I don't know why. I'm just obsessed with it right now. Getting out there and seeing animals. It's very exciting. Yeah. I think I got into it through birds. I got into, started getting into birds, birding. Birding? Birding is the most fun thing. So you're one of those guys that buys a banana tree? Binoculars and stares at the trees? Yeah. We always make fun of those guys. I'm really, I'm really bad at, on it. I get it too. It's kind of a little gay. Well, there's two groups of guys who buy high-end binoculars. Yeah. And the biggest market is actually birders. The second biggest market is hunters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a lot of kind of similarities between, I guess, just tracking a bird to shoot it with a camera and tracking an animal to shoot it with a gun. There's a lot of knowledge you have to learn, the calls, the wind directions and things like that. I don't think that's true with birds, but certainly if you want to take a photo of an animal, you've got to do the same thing. Well, just seeing them in their natural habitat is very exciting, especially if it's a rare bird. The thing about the birds are everywhere. That's why I think most people would rather be into more mammals running around, but there's none around. But the birds are in your fucking garden, and it's cool to look out and go, I recognize that bird or I recognize a call. My friend Tommy has this bird feeder, and it's hooked up to a camera that has eight. It's an AI. Yeah. And so the AI camera takes a photo of the birds when they show up and then tells him, sends it to his phone, tells him what kind of bird it is. I got him. You got that? Yeah, of course. You kidding me? Which one's he got? The problem is you get too many alerts, though, because it's a bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. And where do you have your camera set up? In New York City? Yeah, in New Jersey. Oh, okay. At my in-law's house, because they live out closer to the woods. I set it up there, and I remember seeing one day accidentally a hummingbird landed on the water, and the hummingbird shouldn't have been there, but I got it, and I was able to write it on my list of all the birds that I've seen. Oh, you make a list. Yeah, I'm a little fucking retarded. Wow. But from there, I just wanted to take an interest in what I'm hearing. When I'm sitting around reading a book or whatever. Tweet, tweet, tweet. What is that, and why is that, and what are they saying? And then once you start to do that, I started getting more into animals, and now I'm just hiking and camping and fucking. One of the things you'll see when you go to Alaska is eagles. Yeah. They're like pigeons up there. It's crazy. They're everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, the eagles are fucking cool. We saw some eagles in Montana when we were fishing, just big fucking guys. Wild. Yeah, and they just fly around. I got these amazing videos of fucking these huge birds flying around. Just snatching fish right out of the water and flying off of them. Yeah. It's like the most enjoyable thing you can ever do is witness that. That's so interesting that you're so into nature. That's all I want to do is just kind of go turn my phone off and go fucking hiking, and maybe if I'm lucky, ever see a mountain lion somehow. I reckon if you see a mountain lion, it might be too late. I've seen a few. You've seen them? Yeah. In California? I saw one of them in California. It was in Santa Barbara, actually. We were in Montecito, and we were driving down the street, and I saw this thing running across the road. I was like, oh, is that a coyote? And I saw the tail. See that wavy tail? I'm like, oh, shit, that's a cat. And you realize, oh, my God, it's a mountain lion. We just saw a mountain lion run across the street in a really nice residential community. Like, Montecito is gorgeous. Yeah. Like, beautiful old homes and mountain lions. I wonder how close they get. Because I was thinking about when we were camping. Like, there's definitely mountain lions in that region of Big Bend. Generally, they avoid people. But I wonder how close. Like, at night when we're seeing, like, truly. I know they avoid them, but is it by miles? No, they don't need to be miles away from you. I mean, you can't catch them. They know where you are. We heard some noises of something growling out there. When we were watching the sunset, you could hear some animal. It could have been anything. But it's late at night, and then you just hear kind of a, and you're like, what was that? What could have that been? Yeah, they have a crazy sound that they make, mountain lions. It's really weird. Yeah. See if you can find mountain lion cries. It's very strange. Mountain lion cries. Very strange sound. Yeah. I don't even remember. Foxes make a weird noise, too. There's an animal. I can't remember now, but I just saw a clip of an animal where when they let off a noise at night, it sounds like a man in pain screaming. I just saw this, like, two days ago. And it's literally like, ah! And, like, so it's like. It. Yeah. It's dark out, and you hear that. You're like, oh, my God, we're going to die. Yeah. And you're lost. Oh, my God. You can't figure out how to read the map. You're going in circles for days. Your phone died. You're almost out of water. You promised your wife. It's right up here, I swear. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. How could you sleep? Have you ever been hunting? No. I was saying that. I'm planning a hunting trip to Ireland. My cousin, he's, like, a YouTuber now, and he posts these videos. Cahill Rowan, if you can give him some support. But he hunts deer. Say that in a way that people are going to be able to write it down. Cahill, which is spelled C-A-T-H-A-L. Cahill. Cahill. But the T is silent. OK. Cahill Rowan. W-O-R-O-W-A-N. OK. So he's got a YouTube channel now. I've been watching it, but he goes out hunting. But he goes out in the morning, and he'll have, like, a big tripod, and he fucking sets it up, and he's fucking, and he's killing these deer. There he is. There he is. You're welcome, you little prick. He's only got 725 followers right now. Let's see how many he gets. He's doing his best. That'd be so funny now. He has a million by tomorrow, and I have nothing. It'd be so funny. But we're going to go hunting next year, so he knows all his shit about the deer, and there he is with my uncle out there. I didn't know there was a lot of. I didn't know there was a lot of deer. I don't think they have. There's a lot of deer hunting. It's not elk. I know that. No, I don't think they have them. But you know, Ireland had this thing called the Irish elk. Oh, yeah. It's the biggest. Biggest deer species ever. They were huge. Do you know they found their antlers accidentally? Like, people pulled them up when they were fishing? No, I didn't know that. Like, hooked them? Like, fossilized? They're, like, bigger than you could ever imagine. Bigger than any moose? Insane. Yeah, it was a huge, huge animal. It's an interesting. Because a lot of Irish history, we. I guess, like, everyone, we just don't really know what's going on. Like, there's a certain timeline where everything is, like. That's what it looks like. That's what Irish elks go. The Irish elk. That's crazy. That's found in a loch. It's, like, the biggest kind of deer species animal ever, is it? Yeah. Correct? Yeah. It was enormous. But we had bears, too, that. That's crazy. We had bears that we killed out before they started documenting anything. Because they find these bear bones that have been carved up and stuff. So, whatever humans were living in Ireland killed these guys off. Wow. Maybe naturally from the climate change and two or whatever. But they. Probably not. Probably killing them. It was co. We were co-living together at the same time. And now they're gone. We used to have wolves. I think they reintroduced the wolves. We killed them off, and then they brought them back. What a good idea. Bring them back. I guess if there's regions where it's not going to really be too much farmland, I guess, a couple of wolves are kind of cool. They're a problem. Yeah. They breed, and then they're smart, and they figure out what to do. Colorado's, they had the most retarded decision. They brought wolves, and they reintroduced them right out. Outside of Aspen. Okay. And they dropped them off. Some of them, they dropped off on my friend's ranch. And so, this ranch is. He doesn't run any livestock, but he's connected to other ranches that run livestock. And so, these wolves are now killing all these cows and calves. That's why we killed them off, I think, in the first place, wasn't it? 100%. It wasn't that they were necessarily killing us. It was that they were taking. Well, they were killing us, too. The wolves were taking us, too. Do you know the story from World War I? It's a great story. Do not. Please. The Germans and the Russians had a. They had a ceasefire, because so many of them were getting killed by wolves. They had a ceasefire where they decided, we're going to kill the wolves, then we'll go back to killing each other. Yeah? Yeah. Is that true? This is like when they played soccer on Christmas Eve? That's a different one. I think that was. Wasn't that the British and the Germans? Yeah, the British. Apparently, on Christmas Day, they stopped and had a little kickabout, and then they went back to shooting each other after that. I don't know. I think that's a myth. No, it's not a myth. It's real. No, the soccer one, I'm saying. I don't think it's a myth. Oh, no? No. Soccer one's real. They stopped and had a little kick around Christmas, why not? And then, apparently, the generals and everyone got very angry at them. Like, these are your enemy, go back to killing them. But, I mean, you don't know these fucking people. They don't know you. How could you go back to killing someone after they just fucking scored a great goal, or did something impressive on. Or just shook your hand and gave you a cigarette. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They were hanging out together. They decided to have a ceasefire and hanging out together. Shirts for skins, yeah. Fuck, man. And there was a referee and stuff, and the people. This is the New York Times. The New York Times Associated Press report of it. I don't know, I asked for, like, the AI stuff. It said it's a potential myth. Yeah, it's not. It's real. The Meat Eater did a whole piece on it, where I brought up the story, because someone. I forget what historian told me about the story. And I was like, is that real? And then I brought it up, and then Meat Eater did a whole story on it. Stories widely syndicated in contemporary newspapers, mainstream historians, and archival checks note a lack of official military orders, command logs, corroborating. Go to the Meat Eater story. Go to the Meat Eater story about it, because the Meat Eater story was pretty well-documented. You see it above there. There's a link. Those guys were real. See where it says Meat Eater? Click on that. Okay. Was there a ceasefire during World War I to hunt wolves? So, here it goes in there. Do-do-do-do-do. There, Joe Rogan. Multiple New York newspapers in 1917 reported the story, including the El Paso Herald, Oklahoma City Times, and New York Times. Since then, it's become a favorite bit of barroom banter among amateur historians like the powerful Joe Rogan. 1917, a dispatch from Berlin noted large packs of wolves moving into populated areas of the German Empire from the forests of Lithuania and Volhynia. Locals hypothesized the war effort displaced the wolves, so the canines started seeking out new hunting grounds. Hungry wolves infiltrated rural villages, attacking calves, sheep, goats, and in two cases, children. They also showed up at the front lines, feeding on the fallen, and sometimes taking advantage of incapacitated fighters. So, this is what happened. So, they would have some sort of a way to send someone over with a white fucking. Yeah. Yeah. So it says, as a last resort, the two adversaries, with the consent of their commanders, entered into negotiations for an armistice and joined forces to overcome the wolf plague. Wow. Did it say how many? And this is according to a 1917 New York Times article. But all to no avail. The wolves, nowhere to be found, quite so large and powerful as in Russia, were desperate in their hunger regardless of danger. So apparently one of the things that had happened was they had sent guys on patrol, and they wouldn't find them. They wouldn't come back. And then they would go look for them, and they'd find, like, a foot in a boot where their leg had been severed off and eaten. And they realized, like, oh, my God, they're getting hunted by wolves. Because if you're a small group of people, like two guys, and you go out, and there's 50 wolves, like a large pack, they will eat you. I have a friend of mine who was elk hunting, and he shot an elk. And they didn't realize that they shot an elk essentially where the wolves had their den. And the wolves surrounded them. And they started running in at them. Doing their thing. They killed three of them. He killed two of them with a bow, and the guy he was with killed one of them with a rifle. And then they backed off. The wolves took off. They realized that something was wrong. Yeah, they realized. They didn't know how many. This ain't no bison. Yeah. They also realized, like, something's happening where arrows are flying at them and killing them. And they watched these guys get killed, and they eventually took off. They're super smart. But he said, we were surrounded. Wow. My friend John Dudley, he talked about it on the podcast. He's got the wolf skulls in his house. Yeah. Do you ever see, like, a video of, like, a bison? A bison gets singled out, surrounded by the wolves, and they just bite. They just grab the legs. He's just spinning and spinning for five, eight hours. And I've seen it behind the scenes with the documentary, with the whole people recording it. They're, like, all crying because they're literally watching an animal fight for, like, for eight hours. While these packs just bite it and bite it and bite it. But there's a reason why all those old nursery rhymes, like the big bad wolf. Yeah. Like, the kids worrying about the big bad wolf dressed up like grandma. That was real. You had to worry. If you sent your children home through the woods, they could get eaten by wolves. That was real. I thought it was, like, a metaphor for pedophiles or something. Well, that too, I'm sure. Maybe I misinterpreted the art. That's probably part of it as well. But a real problem back then was wolves killing people. Can I ask you a question about the bows? What's the furthest you've got an animal from when you're hunting? With a bow and arrow? Yeah. 80 yards. 80 yards. So you'll go out, you'll have your, and this will tell you kind of a distance of something? I have a range finder. And you get it. I have a range finder, and I lock in on the animal with the range finder. It gives you a yardage. And then my bow is specifically calibrated with a sight that moves up. There's a reticle on the sight that moves up and down depending on where the distance is. So, like, say if it's 60 yards, I dial to 60 yards, and my sight moves. To a very specific position where my pin, that's where the arrow will drop. If I shoot straight and I don't move during the shot, that's where the arrow will be roughly at 60 yards. Yeah. But it's always the same release. It's just the dial will tell you to go a little higher. It's very complicated. You want to go down a rabbit hole of, like, obsession? Bow hunting is the greatest rabbit hole of obsession I've ever gone down. Oh, I bet you would. I could. Yeah. Want to see one? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. When you do it? It is one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life. Do you remember the first kill you got? It's right there. That's you? Yeah. That's a mule deer that I shot in Montana with Steve Rinella. And how far out was that? That was a rifle, so that was 250 yards, I think it was. But when you're doing it, you know, you're looking through a scope and you're shooting with a rifle, that's hard to do. But a bow is exponentially hard. It's way harder. It's way harder. You've got to get close. Like, the 80-yard shot that I had, the only reason why I would have ever taken that shot, that's the elk that I shot. Nice. That was 50, 54 yards. And you don't have any support on that thing. You're holding it. I'm holding it, yeah. Because my cousin, he brings out, like, kind of a big tripod that gets the shot for the gun. That's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't do that with the bow. No. But I would do that with a rifle. It makes the rifle more accurate. It's smart. Especially if you're shooting it at a distance. He has a silencer on, too, which weighs a ton. Yeah. Well, the silencers aren't that—they're not that heavy. Well, maybe he's a little bit of a bitch about it, but he's— It's not that heavy. I mean, it's not really a silencer. It's a suppressor. So it really just takes some of the sound out. You can still hear it. Is that so if you miss, you don't scare everything off? No, so it doesn't blow your eardrums out. All right. Because if you have a rifle, like, one of my rifles is—it's got what's called a muzzle brake. And a muzzle brake is at the front of the rifle. And there's holes in the barrel that allow the gases to disperse. So what that does is it lessens the recoil. So there's less of a kick when the gun goes off. So a very powerful hunting rifle, like if you're shooting a moose or something like that, you need a powerful rifle. If you want to kill Charlie Kirk, you've got a powerful rifle. And on the impact, there's a lot of movement, right? And if you flinch and if you're worried about that recall, you'll be less accurate. So there's a thing called a muzzle brake. And the problem with a muzzle brake— is it makes the rifle shot way louder. And I have two friends that have lost hearing because they were close to a rifle when it went off with the muzzle brake on it, and they blew their eardrums out. A buddy of mine, he has fucking hearing aids. Oh, Jesus. Really? Yeah. But the point is that, like, a tripod or shooting sticks that you sit down allows you to have a much better— Like, most guys, when they're shooting at real distance, so there's things—so there's, like, say, like, 50 yards to 100 yards, a lot of guys are comfortable shooting offhand. That means just holding the rifle, wrapping the rifle sling around your arm so you're, you know, tight, pushing it to your chest, and then making sure you're not moving, and boom. And you could—up to, like, 100 yards, you could probably get away with that. But if it's anything more than that, you really want to be stabilized. So you want to be on a tripod or a shooting stick. When it's further than, like, 300 yards, most guys want to be prone, so they want to be laying down. So what they'll do is they'll lay their pack down, and they rest the rifle on their pack, and they want their whole body to be rested on the ground, so there's no movement. And so they're looking through that, and all they're moving is their finger. So everything is stable, and all they're doing is slowly squeezing, so their rifle's resting on that pack. So there's no—nothing that could possibly move it. Yeah. It seems— It seems like a lot of, like, fun, or at least a very exciting thing. It's very exciting. Especially if you can—I don't know, if you're— especially if it's, like, a thing that's needed for the ecosystem to continue, the ecology of a thing. It certainly is kind of, but— Well, that's the excuse we'll only use, so I can kill an animal, not pretend I'm helping. Well, the thing is, if you don't kill them, they're going to get killed. No animals live forever and become angels. What happens is they get killed by wolves, and usually they get killed in a horrible way. But in Ireland, we don't have the fucking wolves. Or they freeze to death, or they starve to death. They run their teeth down, and they can't process food anymore. Yeah. And you see them, and they're scrawny and all fucked up. Yeah. And then something gets them, you know? It's usually winter. More animals die from winter than anything, especially in, like, the mountains. Yeah. They'll have strong winter die-offs, where, like, in Utah, where I was at two years ago, they lost something like 70% of their population of mule deer from the winter. Winter die-off. 70% of them froze to death. And the following year, they've got less tags to get out. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And so, in those kind of situations, you know, you don't really need humans to take care of the population. The idea is that humans manage the population in a couple of ways. One, you do keep the population in check. If it's an area where there's not a lot of predators, then it's kind of important that humans do it, because otherwise they can get diseased, and there's too many of them, starvation, overpopulation. But the other thing is that the money that goes into. Tags and also sporting goods equipment. So, when you're buying a tent, if you're buying a rifle, if you're buying a bow, a certain percentage of that money goes into wildlife conservation. So, like REI or one of these kind of places. They have to kind of. Yeah, it's part of the law. I think it's called something, Pittman-Roberts Act. And look that up. So, what that is, I think it's. I forget what the percentage is, but that percentage. Here, Pittman-Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act. That was in 1937. U.S. federal law places an excise tax on the sale of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment to fund state-level wildlife conservation, habitat restoration, and hunter safety programs. So, it's 11% federal excise tax on sporting firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment, and a 10% tax on handguns. And all that goes to conservation. So, that pays for game wardens. It pays for wildlife biologists. It pays to make sure that the populations are healthy. They do studies on them. Things like collaring wolves and, you know, finding out what their migration patterns are, following deer migration patterns. It's all so that we keep the populations healthy. It's like the number one contributor in this country to wildlife conservation is hunters. Yeah. So, they. Yeah. Yeah. Because they. If you. The people that don't hunt and don't eat meat or think it's cruel, they would think that there's no way to do it. way, someone who hunts low He loves animals. There's no way you could. Yeah, exactly. Once you understand the role of it all, I think it makes it. And also, I think a lot of hunters who are outside, they're more in tune. I think they're more environmentalist probably than most people who never leave. Unquestionably. Because they have an understanding of leave no trace, things like that. Unquestionably. The importance of it. Keeping these hunting places that they hunt, keeping them wild, keeping them like that. Keeping them pure. And it's like one of the most disappointing things when you go hunting and you find like a water bottle or a beer can. You find like a bunch of beer cans. A fucking used condom. At least they're very responsible. But you find like places where. I guess not many people are wrapping up in the middle of the woods, are they? When you go out to these places, you know, you want them to be. Look, footprints are one thing. That should be it. Footprints, maybe like a fire pit that you put out. But that should be it. You shouldn't be leaving your shit behind. Yeah. It makes a lot of money every year, but I just noticed this at the end. Okay. So it says. Regular generates between 800. Million and 1.2 billion dollars annually. Non-hunter contribution, even though it was originally pushed by sportsmen. Data now shows that roughly 73 to 74 percent of the revenue actually generated by non-hunters purchasing firearms and ammunition for recreational shooting, home defense or collecting. That's just because because it's 10 percent goes to handguns and 11 percent with rifles. It's just because more people have those than go hunting. But that's also no one's like fighting against that. It's a good it's a good use of tax money. It's it's very important because if you don't have that, then you just have these wild open lands and you don't have people patrolling them to make sure people aren't poaching. Yeah, because that's a real problem. Poaching is a giant problem. It's a giant problem in this country where people go into land that's not theirs. They go on to private land or public land where they don't have a tag and they hunt. And, you know, it's America so big. It's impossible. But. You're the lands that you have here are probably the best thing about this country. The national park. It's pretty systems that you have. I got I I never learned about it until I moved here. Yeah, that wasn't something you thought about. And you think of America like it's all kind of just fast food and fatties in their car. That's kind of it. Just some fat dipshit from fucking Tennessee eating Wendy's. And then you get here and then you hear about these national parks. You're like, well, and then you go to them and you're like, what the fuck? I know it's like I remember first I'm going to Zion was just fucking crazy. It's crazy, crazy, crazy. All of Utah is Utah's Utah's. I could move there pretty soon. Yeah, I'm a Mormon. Have 16 wives. Let's go. Yeah. Why not? That's the American dream. I want Utah's fucking Utah's beautiful. Yeah. The mountains of Utah is one of my favorite places to go. That's the one place that I saw a real mountain lion. I was with my friend Colton a few years back and we were driving. He's a hunting guy that I go with every year and we were driving back. So what we do is you drive. You drive into the mountains, you park, and then you're walking eight, ten miles a day. You're going through the mountain. You have to be in serious shape like I get in shape, like I work out specifically for these trips. Because how much what's the weight on the back? It's not the back. It's just the real carrying them out is a motherfucker. Yeah, because then you're you got like we carried that elk out and I got a bunch of guys to help me. We didn't even have to go very far. We only went a few hundred yards, but it was like this, like like an insane angle. Yeah. With loose dirt. And I had a quarter on my back, a rear hindquarter, which is like 100 pounds. Wow. And you're going straight uphill. Are you like tying that onto a thing? Yeah, you're tying it onto a pack. I have a pack. Yeah. And my pack is specifically gone. I have it's called XO Mountain Gear. When that's all done, because it's the same feeling as when you go to the gym and you're finished and you feel fucking great or whatever. When you've done hunting, got the deer back, you must feel like that's good. It's amazing. And then your phone goes. Did you hear about this? And you go, no, I don't want to know about it. I'm killing fucking deer. But when you're when you're doing that and you eat it, your connection to that food is so different. Like I made an elk steak or an elk roast rather yesterday and I was eating it and and I was eating. I was like, I was there. You got this motherfucker. I remember when this happened. I remember the arrow flying. I remember the sound when it hit the rib cage. I remember quartering it up and carrying it out. Yeah. I remember all the work. I remember all the hours I practiced shooting my bow. Wow. Well, you have to practice. People get that kind of feel like a little bit of that feeling from fucking grown like herbs in their yard. And then you feel great when you put a little parsley on something. So if you were to really learn how to bow and track it and learn to fucking have to follow them where they find them, I think it's probably rewarding. More rewarding than going to fucking Burger King. This is the problem is people think, and I love animals and I think I'm an environmentalist. And I used to, but I think people. They associate hunting with this kind of an anti-environment thing, whereas the guy in a Burger King is probably just as like, that's maybe arguably, you could say that's like less ethical the way we like farm cows versus actually catching a fucking. Well, especially industrial agriculture when they do industrial farming of animals is wild. That should be illegal. They should have never allowed that to happen in the first place when they have these giant warehouses stuffed with pigs. And now we're reliant on it so you can't get it. Right. Yeah. I mean, pigs need it. I could be probably persuaded. I could have somewhere in there with the right argument, I could probably be persuaded to kind of like get away from like unethically. Sourced food. Yeah. I could be convinced to go like vegan, I guess, but probably not, but. It's not that good for you. It's very difficult to do it right, to be vegan and to get all the essential amino acids and B12 and you have to supplement with a lot of things. Yeah. It's very difficult to just eat vegetables. But it's great to tell. You get to tell everyone. Yes. Well, you do get to tell everyone and go, sorry. You get to make Christmas difficult for your fucking-- A lot of animals die in making food, especially monocrop agriculture. You have to kill millions and millions of birds and rodents and rabbits and groundhogs. They all have to die. And if you have a large monocrop farm, you're killing a fuckload of animals every year. Yeah. And forget about the bugs, the amount of bugs you murder. You have to murder so many animals. You have to kill so many bugs in order to have a farm. What, you're spraying shit? Spraying, pesticides, they get run over by stuff, combines chew up animals that are there. There's a lot of death involved in acquiring food. It's just the difference between the death involved in acquiring food, the feeling that you get from just going to a grocery store and picking up some vegetables. You don't think about it. You think, oh, vegetables, no big deal, get some vegetables. A lot of death involved in growing those vegetables. No fucking question about it, unless you're going to a regenerative organic farm and buying all your vegetables from there. But I think the best way is to grow your own in a garden. The feeling that you get, like we were talking about parsley and herbs and stuff like that, the feeling that you get when you make a salad from your own garden is fucking amazing. Amazing. It's amazing. You're slicing up your own peppers, all that stuff, putting it in a salad, putting the olive oil and vinegar on it, you're eating it like, I fucking grew this. And you also, you share that with your family, which is probably the purest thing alive is to eat with your family might be nothing better than that. Killing on stage and then feeding your family tomatoes that you grew in your yard are the two great goals in life. We get to experience a thing that most people will never experience, and that is the feeling that you get from a crowd of people having a great time laughing. That is, I can't imagine a life without that. Because it's such a high, it's such, I've had so many conversations with my friends, like, imagine going through life and never killing. Not once. Never once. Never once where you get a standing ovation, everybody's laughing, thank you very much, good night. That feeling is, we're so lucky. We're so fucking lucky to have that feeling. And to have it all the time. You're going to have it tonight. Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, come on, brother. Well, here's the thing, even great comics can bomb, right? And then even bad. Comics can kill. It's sort of just the, yeah, less likely than a great comic. Oh, yeah, but especially when you release a special, then you're unarmed, and then you have to go on stage with new material. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just trying. Yeah. And the beginning few sets, they're painful. Yeah, I'm going through some growing, I got this, like, new bit without giving away, but it's about a caveman and his wife having a fight. And it crushes so hard for the first little bit. And then I kind of get into some deep waters where I don't know where the fight's going. And sometimes it works out where they, you know, make sense. And then sometimes it just, but one day it'll work. Hopefully. It'll take forever. Yeah. I mean, that's what it is, man. It's like this, this long journey of trying to figure out what a bit really is. And then there's a real problem with getting trapped in the original structure of it. Like, sometimes I get accustomed to saying something a certain way. And then I'm like, boy, this is dull. There's something about this I don't like. Yeah. I need to abandon it. I need to do it from the beginning. I know there's something in the premise. Yeah. But it's not there. You get repetitive. And like, I start off, that's my biggest problem is I start off loose. And then you say it so many times, so many nights that suddenly you start to go, now I'm reciting a script and I'm not talking to these people at all. Exactly. So sometimes I'll intentionally say something different. Even if it makes the joke a little worse. Yeah. It elevates the experience because they know I'm fucking in the room. But that's how I try. All my favorite people, Patrice and Burr and all these guys, they are like that. Whatever you say, it's the same. Yes. You're fucking around with it. Yes. And it keeps it fresh in your mind. It's still real. We're blessed with some of the Patrice O'Neill stuff because he has the same jokes in multiple different places, but it's a different kind of thing each time. It's a different vibe. It's a different way of speaking. Well, he was very improvisational, very loose, and also wise. Like, he would do these points. He would make these points. He'd be like, oh, yeah. Always. There was so much of his material. And he could sell it to you in a dumb way. It might be real stupid. Like, that bit about him enjoying watching baseball and then his wife comes over and his girlfriend comes over and sits beside him going, what are you doing? He goes, are you watching baseball? Why are the blinds shut? Like, let me open the blinds. Get the light in here. He's like, what are you eating? Are you eating a burger? You don't want a burger. It's 11 a.m. I'm going to make you a sandwich, a dry turkey sandwich. She's like, hug me, kiss me, kiss me, mean it, mean the kiss. Yeah, he's got the best bit. He's got the best. He was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I wish he was around. For just to have seen him once, you know, before he was dead. He was dead by the time I got here. Well, he would be the biggest podcaster on earth. You think so? Yeah. Beige. He'd be right up there. He'd be like, me and him would be right there together. He might be number one. I might be number two. That wouldn't be good for me. Yeah. Your rival is. No, just take a little weight off me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't know. Maybe he's a fucking wacky old fucking retard, too. Because a lot of people, that happens. You don't know. No. No, no, no, no, no. He was too smart. He would not have been wacky. He would have had great takes on things. He was just always, he was fantastic on Opie and Anthony. Like, that's where I hung out with him the most. Yeah. Like, doing Opie and Anthony with him. Yeah, he was the best. Crusher. Yeah. He just, it was so funny, like, finding things that you do that are stupid and, like, rubbing them in your face and you have to laugh. You're like, no, no, that's so true. Yeah, he would have been awesome on podcasts. Because he was, like, designed for that. Let's work. Because Opie. Opie and Anthony was really the first podcast. It was really, it was a radio show, sure, but credit to them, the way they ran it, they let the comedians run it. It was, you know, Voss and Jimmy Norton and Burr and Ari and all of us, we'd be in there and it would just be like a wild podcast. They let everybody just go nuts. They didn't have a structure. Like, if you do Howard Stern, you have a structure. Howard Stern's not going to let me come on with three of my friends and just talk shit and smoke weed and get crazy. With Howard Stern, you'd go on. So let me tell you, let me ask you a fear factor. Did you do that? Did you like that show? Did you just do it for money? He would ask, it was an interview. And I was emailed to you beforehand, these are the questions we're going to ask. No, no, no, no. Howard didn't do it that way. But when you would do Opie and Anthony, you would do it, it was a hang. Yeah. You would just go in and everybody would hang out. And there was always content. And it made me realize, like, oh, you don't have to have a structure. Like this conversation. Yeah. You and I met last night for the first time. We hung out in the green room. Had a grand old time. And then we came here today. We didn't talk about what we're going to talk about. We actually didn't talk about a single thing we talked about last night. I was coming in here today going, I think I'm going to talk about Ark of the Triumph or whatever. Not the Ark of the Covenant being guarded by some fucking Ethiopians. I was like, we're definitely talking about that. Didn't even come close to it. But that's the thing about a podcast. And that was the thing about Opie and Anthony. It was wide open. And I think that was the birth of podcasts. I think that show in particular, because of the way they ran it, particularly because Anthony Cumia is a very, he's got a lot of interesting information and knowledge in his head. And he always will pull these things out, like historical references to things. So the way this started, and he would explain something, and you're like, whoa, that's crazy. He knows a lot of things. And it contributed to the depth of the conversation. And then everybody would be talking shit about it. But they just let it play out. Yeah. If you listen on Spotify somewhere, someone's put all of the Patrice O'Neill, it's like a whole album. It's like a whole album of just Patrice O'Neill and ONA. And sometimes I'd put that on. When I used to drive trucks, I'd put that on. And it was just, there was something about it, because it was very slow, almost like as if no one was in any hurry. Sometimes with podcasts now, we're all trying to zing, zing, whatever. They had this kind of a calm thing. We're going, we're here for four fucking hours. So let's take our time. Let's relax. And they're doing it every day. And they would talk about one subject for a long time. Yeah. They would stick on it for an hour and a half. It was a great show. Yeah. I remember before I did it, I would listen to it all the time. I'm like, these guys are having fun. Kumi is doing something with Jim now. Yeah. They have a podcast. Fantastic. They were just guests on Kill Tony. Nice. So the episode's out this week. So I did Kill Tony a couple of weeks ago. I was in town. And they just let me go up and do a spot. I didn't have to do a bucket or anything like that. But I got more feedback on that show than pretty much anything I've ever done. It's huge. Yeah. I had cousins I haven't talked to in years reach out to me and things like that, going, hey, I saw you on Kill Tony. And I was like, yeah, well, I'm doing stuff all the time, actually. But yeah, thanks. And this, yeah, it's a man. It's massive. Yeah. I went to the Monday night. Well, I went to meet Jeremy Clarkson because he came to watch the Monday night show. He was just hanging out in Austin, wasn't he? Just hanging out. Hanging out in the green room. He's the best. He's so fun. But Jimmy introduced me to him, Jimmy Carr. So he was a guest on the panel. You know, I heckled Jimmy Carr in a theater before I ever did stand-up years ago. Fucking years ago. I don't know what got into it. You know, he was doing a Q&A at the end of it. And this is a big theater in Ireland. And he was like, I don't even have any questions. And I said, can I get a photo with you? After the show. And then he started making fun of my accent. Going, I'll get a photo with you. He goes, I'm a stolen camera. Or whatever. And then I said, your fat head might not fit in the photo. And then the whole crowd goes, whoa. And then he did a little, let me just open this can of whoop-ass. And I don't even remember what he said to me. But he just unleashed all of the. And people are grabbing me going, ah, you're from the strangers. You're a fucking idiot. You're a dipshit. Were you thinking about doing comedy before that? I think I might have been. Yeah. Right, like in the back. And I definitely started. I met him again years later at another show. And I told him the story. But I definitely, I wanted, you know, I wanted to do comedy when I was like 16. Because I saw it on TV. I go, this is the coolest thing ever. But I'd only ever seen specials. That's all I knew was specials. So I was like, I got to write an hour. And then I'll go do a special. That's what I, I was 16. I didn't have any idea. So I remember sitting down going, I'll write a little every night. And then after a couple of weeks, I'll have an hour. And then I'll just go be on TV like these guys. Like, that's genuinely, I had no understanding of what was in between there. That's hilarious. And yeah, so I remember writing a story one night. And then the next night, I sat down to write again. I reread the previous night. I was like, that's not funny at all. And I just said, all right, I can't do that. And then it wasn't until like fucking, you know, six years later, I saw a thing on TV about open mics. I was like, oh, I didn't even realize there's like a whole thing in between. Yeah, a process. Yeah. And then that was like years ago. Well, listen, brother, you're very funny. Thank you. You're really funny. I've enjoyed watching your shit. Great. I'm looking forward to watching you tonight live. Yes. Yeah, yeah. The caveman. We'll see if it goes or not. Let's go. This is the new special? The special Bells and Whistles available right now on YouTube. Where'd you film it? New York Comedy Club. Nice. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah, there we go. All right. Yeah. Thank you so much, Joe. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Let's do this again sometime. I'd love to. All right. Bye, everybody. I'll see you next time.