#2570 - Mystery Boys

the Joe Rogan experience so what is this internet thing explain this to me I didn't want to do it off the air I think Jamie should explain it because it's it's out of my league it's something to do with PHP certificates as some ability to counterfeit websites you go into a website and it does some kind of check and this thing is a massive security flaw that's existed I think for 14 years right Jamie like 14 years there's the I saw that so what I just saw this coming up yesterday online like okay best warnings from a bunch of different Twitter accounts so let's read this FBI cyber division two critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications these vulnerabilities blah blah blah could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code and PHP core potentially compromising sensitive data and networks FBI urges organizations to take the following steps now so it tells you all the things to stay to do - so we're fucked what's what's happening is AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists and there'll be no more encryption that's gonna be gone there's gonna be no more passwords yeah that'll be useless yeah and it's gonna get very squirrely because money is online haven't they already made that I mean that octopus scandal was all about that backdoor they put into everything way back when so what is the octopus scandal which ones that you know octopi bits connected FC and all them it was like I don't know you always do that you know but not octopus have you heard of that before? yeah there's a whole documentary on Netflix about it there you go the octopus murders oh the octopus murders that's connected to that oh okay so yeah I watched one episode of that or the beginning of it I didn't watch the whole I heard it's fucking incredible yeah the guy the guy managed to like slash both his like the way he committed suicide right it's very suspicious like the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice yeah that guy did he shoot himself in the head twice twice twice like Gary whoopsies really like the guy like Gary Webb Gary Webb did it twice no maybe the Enron guy didn't it maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb well the I might be intoxicated who's the one the Clintons they always said that they killed that one's Vince Foster that's a fucking weird one man the strange death of Vince Foster is a great book what's that I read that book in like fuck it was like the early 2000s I think that guy was on Jimmy's show just recently and he was saying no the Clintons didn't didn't do it they took the blame for it but no it's some FBI associated gang trafficking gang that did it he probably didn't want to go along with with the thing that they're all into you know well perhaps there's probably a bunch of factors right because for sure while Clinton was governor of Arkansas that's when all that Barry Seale stuff was going on in mean Arkansas where they're dropping off coke so there's that right so there's that for sure but then there's also that that scheme that they were doing that real estate real estate scandal it wasn't shot twice but there's so the Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head twice right Vince Foster this is the thing that blew my mind because and Jimmy has sat on this for a year because he thought it sounded too far out there's an interview and I couldn't believe when I saw it the guy when he was researching there was a reporter that was like a supposed like you know like how I consider Ben Swan to be a good guy reporter like supposedly like that but he wasn't he's a piece of shit helping cover it up according to according to this guy and that guy's named that reporter was Chris Ruddy who's now the guy who runs Newsmax he's a billionaire now that's what this guy said no I can't tell you I'm moving in whatever but I'm a news reporter become a billionaire um I'm sure legitimately sure there's nothing you know I don't want to be I get blip egged as one of these conspiracy guys which I'm not I just you definitely not not at all not at all so was the whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in so there was like there was a lot going down with that and then they found him dead but there was more blood missing from his body then was at the scene of the crime his body clearly had been moved also the gun was in his I wrote this motherfucker wrote the book he's in on the cover-up that guy was telling us amazing that's that's amazing cuz that book is really so now I have to rethink everything that I read in that book I think that interview dude you should watch cuz that guy was really fascinating and I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time well it's like what they always say Trump is doing he's doing 4d chess like these guys are like some people just not in your favor idiots right yeah tells you everything remember he came on here and he was like sounding pretty good and then immediately rug pulled everyone like how long that take the rug pull of Trump would you say the war in Iran was what a year yeah he waited a year well then we have the stupid um war on drug narco terror which is always fair anybody talk about that's a fucking lion phony so the Department of War the only the guy who's got all the brill cream in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoo that but you think the war on drugs is fake like when they're blowing up those what do you think is going on well I think I'm mostly probably marijuana guys not even going to America the idea of Venezuelan cocaine is proposed I used to do a lot of coke dude and I heard every kind of cocaine and never heard no Venezuelan that's true I've never heard of it is pure Venezuelan dude is it only as well that they were blowing up those boats well maybe they were murder people you already know this right but I think they were probably trying to cripple their money chain before they invaded them oh I was reading about what they did to them what oh my god oh yeah the new weapon bleed oh it's like swells your shit up yeah they said it doesn't it's non-lethal in a sense cuz it doesn't actually kill you yeah yeah yeah the stuff they use in Venezuela but you're fucking done I don't think they boil your brain boil your ass I think Maduro and his wife they got their asset out of there cuz the regime still in place by the way I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you saw the same take this one step at a time Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat ray weapon for possible use of the border Wow okay but what is that find out that thing that they discombobulated yeah is that what they're calling it but they were talking about it today like what it actually does yeah yeah well at least on this article that someone sent me on doesn't it raise the temperature of your like cells by a little bit or something it just like fries here it's a microwave it's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you so it's non-lethal technically technically but you're never the same you're fucked shotguns are they say less than lethal I thought the beanbags are not as scary as the rubber bullets the rubber bullets out take your eyes out there's people have lost eyeballs to people shoot you right everywhere but this story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane like these like super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on they were saying that it doesn't kill you so it's non-lethal technically but you're never the same you're fucked you have burns in your veins but the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane like these like super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on but the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane like these like super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on everyone's falling down shitting their pants their eyes are bleeding but that's not true I bet it is true so those super soldier helmets that's the answer they have that I'm not saying they don't the heat rays I'm saying I don't think they used it there last 24 hours my type of non-lethal weapon right right right but I'm saying what they used in Venezuela they were discussing specifically like what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal weapon Venezuela Yeah. Trump administration. So this is different, I think. A heat gun. Because if they're already testing it, they fucking did this already in the Venezuela stuff. Whatever it was, whoever was talking about it, I should probably have saved it. I'm just trying to stay offline. I'm just trying to keep it. Are you really? How many hours of screen time do you think you're doing a day? I still watch stuff, but it's mostly YouTube videos. Okay. Most of my use on my phone, if I'm bored, is YouTube videos. Yeah. And it's all pretty either educational or interesting. If you had to guess, social media, how many? An hour. Hour a day. That's admirable. I'm trying. This show is presented by DraftKings. Think DraftKings isn't available in your state? Think again. The cage is set, and DraftKings keeps the full card at your fingertips in one sports app live in all 50 states. Download the DraftKings sports app and use the code ROGAN. New customers can spend $5 and get $200 in bonuses within 21 days. 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Do they have that? Probably five or six hours. That's insane. Yeah, it's probably five or six hours. And on good days, I have zero hours. Good days, I just stay completely off. Those are the best days. But today wasn't a good day. Today, I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere, and then I got up in the morning and did a little work, and then I was tired, and I took a shit, and that's when I started watching my phone. Then I watched my phone a little bit, and I'm like, all right, I got to get to work. Yeah. But it was like after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser. You're like, I'm wasting time. Seven fucking hours a day. I'm usually editing. That's crazy. It would be fair to me at my hours. 49 hours a week. Now, imagine kids with no self-control and teachers that aren't paying attention so they have access to them at school. Yeah. Dude, even if they are paying attention, it's not good. There's nothing good. It's all poison coming in. Most of it's poison. Most of it's poison. But you can curate it and make it not poison if you're just smart with what you do. I get something out of YouTube videos. I get something out of things that are interesting, like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy. That stuff is interesting to me. I'm always going to look at those. I'm just fascinated. Do you guys remember the, sorry to cut you off, do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos? Do you remember those? Okay, Spider-Man and Elsa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of the reasons for the apocalypse, yes. Jamie, can you pull that up? Jamie, do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man and Elsa videos? Yeah. Which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough before they changed it, it was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly fucked up videos, and no one was sure where these videos were coming from. Right. Do you want to know what the final explanation was? What? Yeah, these. So this is the one that I would have explained it with is, okay, so they basically use an algorithm. They know kids psychologically are fascinated with getting a shot or pregnancy or whatever. Or violence. Or violence or bugs, and they mix it together into gibberish that's colorful so the kids stay on it. Okay, so that's the main, and that's probably pretty reasonable, but I think that's testing something, too. I don't think it was just, oh, it was just these greedy people. People were doing a thing. There is no way something like that exists that our government didn't learn everything they could about and how to weaponize, and also it was probably them. It gave you, can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? Because it gave you a weird feeling watching them. Yeah. Like, it felt bad. There was a lot of the cartoons, they'd get drunk, and someone would smash their head, and there'd be blood all over the place. Yeah. And you'd be like, what the fuck? Or Spider-Man's pregnant, and then after he gets birth, he's so relieved, like, he took a shit. Spider-Man got pregnant? Yes. Yeah, they're gibberish things, but that's to go right to the subconscious. Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? Yes. They were, like, using comments and code words. Oh, you mean most of the things for kids? They were just, so, like, they would- Rule blocks and every other thing like that? Yeah. They'd have, like, kid videos, like, you know, kids in a swimming pool, and then they would, in the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame, you could see a kid's ass. Like, that's what they were doing, is so that you'd have to waste your time- It's kind of suspicious that you know that. Watching the whole, watching the whole video. What's the time stamp? Yeah. If that's a test, if you know, then you're going to jail. The time stamp? Generally, 322. Generally. Is there a number that's attached to, like, pedophile stuff? Like, 420's attached to weed? I don't know. Probably. They probably know. Like, 187 is murder. Probably. It seems like they got a lot of code words, for sure. Oh, for sure. It's a whole thriving underground- Pizza, beef jerky. Yep. Right? Yep. You know, pizza also could be cocaine. They should, whoever the fuck wrote those emails that's alive, they should be brought to jail. They should be brought into a room publicly. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Why hasn't that happened? Well, they brought Howard Ludnick in, and he decided he didn't do anything. What is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't. That guy just- I met him once. Oh, he was really gross. His neighbors knew him for, like, 20 years. He had a massage table in his living room. My wife said, this man's gross. Yeah. And we left. And we left. And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy? I don't know. Bringing a ton of kids there to the person who's so creepy. He's bringing all their kids and some other kids. It's just a vacation. It's a vacation. Age is- Relax. No, when you go on vacation, hey, you're a guy of money. People love the beach. You bring extra kids when you go on vacation, right? Just the beach. To a creep's house? A guy that you said was really creepy? It's like spare tires. Someone dies. Yeah. Yeah. Extra kids. Yeah. It's really spooky, man, and it's really- Fucking bizarre. But now the new- You know what the new thing is? It's like, stop talking about Epstein. Is that the new thing? Well, yeah. Fuentes has been saying that. Like, Fuentes has been saying- Oh, not just him. A lot of Chris Ruddy- Israel trip takers, like your Gavin McGinnis's and what have you. Okay, but devil's advocate. Please. Why are they doing that? Why are they doing what? Do you think it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's going to change. This Epstein stuff is a giant distraction. There's real shit we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran, like whatever the fuck is happening in France, like all the stuff that- Question. So you're saying the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real thing than the midterms? No, no, no. What I'm saying is the people that are online that are, you know, air quote influencers and people talking about the news- They're doing it on purpose because they're paid, then the morons that go along with it say the thing you're saying. Perhaps. But this is why I'm saying devil's advocate. So like, if you're asking- I'm saying warm speculum. That's a fake one. We have a real one. I feel like a fraud now because I know it is. I think, is it on the sea serpent table out there? That's the last time I saw it. Ah, the sea serpent table is where you keep your baculums, of course. Bro, have you seen that table? Oh, it's the dopest. No? That guy, the Dow? The guy that did our table in our green room at the club? Okay. With the snake? Yeah. That guy's amazing, man. Oh, he carved it? Do we have a- Oh, dude, he's so good. He's so good. He made me an alligator. There's an alligator out there that's like surfacing out of the water. Oh, cool. That I have in the pool room. But on the table, there's a sea serpent one. It is the fucking shit, man. It's got boats and the sea serpent's coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram. Yeah, but I'm down in New Orleans. People smoke cigars, dude. It's disgusting. I'm looking for a video. But before we get to that, please pause and find that table. Just while we're on the subject, I'll forget it because I want to give this guy some credit because he's really fucking good. He's super talented. I love you got a sea serpent table with an authentic walrus dick on it. Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Steven Rinella. So this is- This is- It is. It's the underscore Dow. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, Dow looks awesome, dude. So that's the table that's in our studio. That's the one that we had to saw in half to get up the stairs because it was originally for here, rather, for the studio, and then I said, that belongs in the comedy club. Yeah. That really belongs as the green room. Find the sea serpent one, though, Jamie. He made me a- Where's he from? I think that's it. Hold on. Go to the left. That's it right there. Click on that. That's it. Look at that fucking thing. Look at that. Look, it's got a boat and- Look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. That's cool. This is where it gets crazy at the end. Oh, that's not ours. That's not exactly ours. That's just another one. That's another one. That's pretty cool. I thought that was ours. Oh, that's an octopus one. That's different. That's awesome, dude, though. He's insane. Scott Dow. He's really fucking talented. Oh, look at the bottom. It's underneath it, too. That's fucking cool. Oh, dude, he's so sick. And he does a lot of it. The beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man. Wow. Does he have like smaller, like a number two chainsaw that's smaller? Wow, look at that. Well, he gets down to the nitty gritty, and then he starts using- Using complex tools, but, okay, it's before that. Swimming dog, classic swimming dog table. We've had it for a few years now, so this is only like six months ago. I know, but he reposts stuff. I follow him on Instagram. He's super fucking talented, though, man. He does a lot of these now. Wow. When we blew him up on the internet, he got real popular. He was real popular, right? Oh, I know a guy that makes fake walrus dick. It's on my Instagram. What is that made out of? Scott Bakula. Is that made out of bone? Scott Bakula. No, that's fake. That's fake. But the one we have outside is actually a fossilized giant walrus dick. But what's the material? Sorry. Originally, it was a bone. No, that's plastic. This is some kind of wood. Okay. It's fake. I mean, who cares? It's a fraud. Are you sure? Can I feel it? Are you sure it's fake? Go ahead. I'm a good detector of dicks. I'm actually holding the tip. You're holding the base. It's just hell. Let me smell it. Oh, God. Does it smell right? No, it does smell fake. It tastes weird, too, dude. I noticed that right away. Does it smell like fake walrus dick from a mile away? I noticed it tasted weird the second I had it. How many guys have fisted each other with one of these? A lot. For sure, more than one. Usually, we sit on these and do it. Many. But if you have a baculum and I have a baculum, okay, then it's not as rare as we think because we both have them. I mean, you didn't know I had one, right? You saw how many guys have baculums. You got me good with that one. So how many guys have stuffed these up their ass? That's the question. More than a thousand? Well, because Texas, I was just thinking. Yeah, easily. Easily. Don't you? You know, what's that joke you have about Texas has stronger dildo loss than cunniless? Yeah, yeah. That's a joke. I mean, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is going to, well, it leads to, if they can't get it in the shops, they're going to get it from walrus baculums. That's right. Or they're going to carve their own, you know? Yeah. Good old-fashioned ingenuity. Prison style. Know-how. Is this more of a Tallarico or the other guy issue? Walrus baculum cane with 24-cower gold-plated handle. Wow. Is that the former owner? Former owner? Yeah, look at him. I have this in my rectum. Starting bid, only 10 bucks. Well, that's it. Wow, that's a good deal. Oh, this is a long time ago. This is 2023. 24-carat gold. Oh, from God's ear to my taint. And a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner. The current bid is only 128 bucks. Hey, take a picture of me and keep it with this whale dick cane. You got to put headphones on so we could all hear each other. Otherwise, we're going to talk over each other. I was looking for Elsagate. It said, I keep seeing videos from about a year ago. Where it's saying Elsagate 3.0 is starting up. And a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then I was trying to cut in because I saw this pop up. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Oh, my God. Is candy? Is that AI? No, it's not. I don't want to see this, Jamie. I don't want to see that look. It's not real, though, is it? It's not. Oh, my fucking. And so you leave your kids sitting in front of the TV. They're going to end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated. That's why you can't do that. But then it turns into candy, so it's OK. Yeah, that's true. All right. Let's talk about AG1 Pro for a second. Because it's one of the smartest things you can add to your routine. It's just one scoop, once a day, multivitamins, probiotics, superfoods, all in there. Plus, it's got enhanced support for muscle strength and recovery built right into it. 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It's like he's saying, it's getting deep into your psyche. It's turning them into a fucking gender blob. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of shit the person who like, this is the kind of shit the person who like, this is the kind of shit the person who like, this is all the shooters probably, who like, this is all the shooters probably, what they're watching as kids. What they're watching as kids. Go back to that. What the pregnant Spider-Man. So do you think- This is shit that in MKUltra in the 50s you'd have to watch. See that shit? You'd be forced to watch it all night. This section of the video says like Vietnam and stuff like that. You'd have ping pong balls on your eyes and have to watch that shit. And they just get pumped out. Like, that's what's weird about it, is they just appear, these channels appear, they just get pumped out. They get populated with these bizarre animations, they disappear, they reappear. Well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. Yes. So somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, shit. And also, there's a lot of animation in Vietnam. A lot of people send in pictures and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of shit. A lot of people send their shit to get animated there. Hey, how about this? We already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone. What? We already see the damage of that. What did it do? Well, Disney adults, for one thing. Do you think that's a thing that should exist? You don't think that's a- They're happy. They're happy. The fuck are you- If they weren't doing that, they'd be trading coins. Says the guy dressed like an elf. From a hot dog. Listen to the fucking hot dog. It's bad. Listen to the techno cowboy. Listen to the CIA cowboy. Sorry, sorry. Jesus Christ. We're on the air. Fuck. Dude. That blows your cover every fucking- Peter Thiel's going to be texting you after this is over. Stop hanging out with me. He's texted me three times already during this show. I only hang out with the Soros boy. So what do you think happened to the Disney boys? The Disney boys? They're like, "We're going to the Disney boys." They're like, "We're going to the Disney boys." People watch Disney? Wait, is that- Disney boys. Disney boys. That's like the worst shit of all time. Whatever it is, it's horrible. We should make an AI show called the Disney boys. Yeah. How do you know about our business? Just based on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. You know Disney gangs? The Disney boys. Like you have gangs where you have to do something. Yeah. You have to do certain things to be in the gang. Yeah. Dude, that's real. You have to get kicked off of a ride. Yeah. You have to disrupt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's part of some of the Disney gangs. Yeah. Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I had to step it down because I had ankle bracelets, so I stepped down to being a Disney boy. Disney boy. Those kind of hijinks. Kia? Like the car company? The Kia boys. They steal Kias. They're the easiest to steal cars, so there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia. Oh, I have heard of that. Yeah. I've never heard of that. Apparently, Kias are easy to steal. Yeah, with like a USB key or something really easy, they can do about 30 seconds. Oh, wow. No idea. It's hilarious. Did you say a USB key? Yeah, it's like a Honda and a Kia. Oh, my God. They could rip them off real fast. It's that easy? There was 15, like 12, 13-year-old kids were doing it. Doesn't take a CIA guy to know that's not going to be a good idea. It can't be that exciting to steal a Kia, though. Well, when you're 15. It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia boys. That's true. You don't even have a driver's license yet. All of a sudden, you're driving? Alex Jones, this guy that got shot, he had a Kia. Really? Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, maybe he got assassinated," and then I heard Kia, I'm like, "No, they were just taking his Kia." Oh, that's sad. Is that really what they were doing? That's so sad. They shot him because they were stealing his Kia? As soon as I heard he had a Kia, I'm like, "That's a plausible reason why." That's so depressing. Interesting how you just abandoned all investigation because there's a Kia involved. I abandoned all investigation. You're like, "It's solved." Well, I was not. Look, I wasn't being paid to be on that case. Mystery solved. Mystery solved. Mystery boys don't work for free. Alex is a friend, but until I get. I feel like Disney boys would be a really good show. The Disney boys? The cool guys. It's kind of all their shows. Out of all of the different gangs at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney boys, and everybody wants to get in on the Disney boys. Yeah, yeah. They're into some sick shit, I'll tell you that. They're gatekeepers. Yeah. What do you think happened to people. What's the major damage from watching Disney? I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that. Forever? To the point of when you're an adult, and then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned, well, autism poisons, to make people that buy all the products, 80% of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it, by the way, you can see that they're just a lot of fun. You tell them who they. What sex they are, you tell them who they like. They're weird about. They don't really reproduce until it's socially okay. You fuck up Star Wars 10 years in a row, making shitty Star Wars, and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on? Those are the perfect citizens, okay? Then you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on, because you got people. It's not like being a psychopath. They want to connect, but they have a hard time connecting. You think that's by design? They're making people autistic? The most compartmentalized people, so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture, as if that's above their pay grade. You're not supposed to ever assemble these things. You're not supposed to remember anything. You're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month, and almost no one does. I feel like I agree and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. What? Here's autism. I think autism, a big factor, is not just the various environmental toxins that people are ingesting, but also a lot of the fucking vaccines they're giving kids when they're young. For sure. I don't think they're doing that- It's not one thing. to make people autistic. I think they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines. You told me China was doing that. I think once they take advantage- You told me. Hold, please, while I'm talking. Once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage. I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, "Oh, we're making more autistic people. There's definitely more autistic people. Now we can kind of weaponize it. Now we can kind of mold them in a certain direction." I don't think they engineered autism. I like to think, at least, that people aren't that evil. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Why do you like this? Will you tell me what China did? That thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher so they were putting something? Yeah. What they did is they gene-edited kids and they said they did it to prevent HIV, which, like, who's even worried about HIV today? Fucking zero people. Right. Right. The HIV might have been the greatest psy-op since COVID. Right. As far as, like, what Fauci did. The way he mind-fucked people with COVID, he mind-fucked people to a much greater extent with HIV. So you don't think people are evil, though, and after you already know about that? I think individuals, like Fauci, yes, very capable. Oh, just a few bad apples in the fucking DARPA shit, really? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't know if Disney, like, worked together with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better citizens. I didn't say, you have a link I'm not making that they engineered autism personally. It's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start. It's deeply Pentagon-embedded and everybody knows that. Tommy Lee Jones' cousin was the liaison to all, like, who's the, what's the one with Claire Danes? You ever see Claire Danes? When she was on that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Colbert. And she's on that, and she goes, yeah, and she's like a dingbat, it's like, and then we go on the CIA camp, and Colbert, who I think is hip just because he did this, he went, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. He had to, like, tamp it down immediately. So, no, it's linked very intimately. Right, but you don't think that Disney or that these people are purposely working with the government. Of course, they're working with the government. To, like, make more, like, they want more people autistic. You don't think that. Not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing. I'm just telling you, what is the propaganda? So, all the complaints now about woke, everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that? Right, right, right, right. So, why is it like that? Do you think that they're on purpose making people autistic? Are you saying that's part of it? Whatever, when they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it and that RFK, by the way, sold this out on, they're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the shit is. So, yeah, I don't want to think people are evil, but they are, clearly, because you wouldn't phase that out. You would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that it was doing, making the frogs gay, how Alex said, inartfully, but correctly, that shit mutilates genitals and, uh, sex genes. Yeah. Okay, so, once you know it does that, and you're not doing shit, and, in fact, it becomes more, that means you want to do it. That's how I look at it. I think they just want the money. They want the money. They have money. They want the profit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. A major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter. Dude, if corporations aren't free, we have state capitalism. They're all, all of them have government contracts. Can I give my theory on this? Yes, hot dog, thank you. Okay. This is, this, you know, you know, cymatics? Cymatics. I know the term. I forget what it means. Cymatics. How is cy? Cymatics. He's a great dude. He's, like, one of my favorite, no, cymatics. Is this, like, an offshoot of Dianetics? Cy, cy, no, it's when you just, you put, like, baby, you put baby powder on a speaker and you play certain frequencies and it forms geometries. Oh, I have seen that. So I think what both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural cymatics, that there exists in the world a frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history over and over and over again. The exploitation of children, the sacrifice of children, the, the, the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful. This has been going on since all of recorded history. So I said that? What? Yeah, he's really smart. You bully him, but he's a nice dude. He's got bad skin. You know how I am. Well, let's, let's think about, just think about the idea of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary, that will kill them, but also make companies a profit. That is child sacrifice. Absolutely. It's just a roundabout, sort of a weird, filtered way where you don't think about it like that, but it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing. It's very, it's just, it's exactly. It's just you're doing it for money. They're doing it for favor with the gods. So it's like the, that's the same thing. The baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker, it changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child sacrifice. So it is child sacrifice. It's just that they dance around this maze so you don't think of it as child sacrifice where they're injecting kids with COVID vaccines. They're all getting strokes. Yes, or it's slavery. It's not child sacrifice. I mean, that's a huge part of it. But it is child sacrifice. Child sacrifice, slavery, exploitation. Don't worry. We use every part of the buffalo here. Imagine if your company is profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary to kids, and you know for sure is killing kids, and you're still doing it for profit. Here, let me explain. Child sacrifice. Imagine you work in the government and you let them do that, and you have these bullshit hearings and nothing ever happens or changes, and you have a little stupid play. Imagine that, because I've only been on a news show for now, what, three years, and already I'm, like, bored of this circle, and people still act like it's normal, and they're not just doing a play. They still act like it's normal. Callie Means just left the White House today. Really? Is that the long neck? What the fuck does that mean? Callie Means was. From Trump's menagerie of freaks. Have you not seen them? Okay. Callie Means, who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things passed through, said, I can't do this. It's impossible. The deep state's real, and there's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government, and they say they're gonna do something, and then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides were supposed to be done two years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen a long time ago, and they're fucking hitting the brakes on everything because they want money. Yeah. And, again, same kind of thing, right? Making money. How many people are going to lose their health, perhaps get very sick, maybe even die, because they don't have access to whatever the fuck they need, and also, you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time. Right? Like fucking glyphosate. Like, they need glyphosate. That was the craziest argument when RFK Jr. was on here and he was explaining that to me. That they made an executive order to keep glyphosate because otherwise it would fuck up the food business. So imagine that the food business is reliant on poison. If it doesn't use poison, it can't stay open. We can't operate without this poison. How would it fuck the business up? Because it would cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to there's all these different ways they could do it. They use lasers where they fucking scan over the things and they zap the plants that aren't the right ones. And then if they wanted to do everything like regenerative farming, that takes fucking a decade. You have to change the soil. You have to do so much. You have to compost. You have to re-energize the bio material that's in the soil and turn it to enriched. You have to have fertilizer. You have to have dead animals and shit. It has to be. It has to become a living thing again. Because right now it is a fucking toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from and then they pour a bunch of fucking minerals and nitrogen and all the different things all over it just so the stuff can grow. And it's like to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers, you don't need herbicides, it'll take fucking forever and it'll cost so much money because we've been tricked by these fucking crooks. These people that have decided to make the most amount of money and poison people, probably initially they probably didn't realize what they were doing, but once they realized they were poisoning people, they just kept doing it. Yeah, but you know, in some way they've done it on purpose many times. Remember that. Don't you remember what they did to them kids in Kansas City? What they did to people in San Francisco? They drizzled that cobalt shit on black kids in Kansas City. What cobalt shit? Yeah. I can't remember. Cobalt 13 or something? Was this the one from the fans? No, that was a different thing. This is the army. They went to a building next to another building and then they said, why aren't you using a plane even? They were just spraying it into these kids. That's right. I don't remember what it was, though. You said it's cobalt? To see what I would do. They wanted to see how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use a bioweapon. Well, I'm sure it's reformed since there's no justice ever for these people. I'm sure it's gotten better. Well, they did with MKUltra. That stopped. It stopped. Fair point. They don't do it anymore. I stand corrected. San Francisco, they were trying to see if they could spread a disease. They spread like a cold, right? Didn't they? They spread something like the flu. They put it in the subways. Is that what they did? I heard they fumigated the subways with disease. 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Select Jumpstarters at no.co. Metzger's making a Fairpoint. That's evil. Oh, yeah. You're watching Fairpoint. Yeah, I love it. Fairpoint with the Disney boys. With the Disney boys. Hot dog and CIA. And the elf. Hot dog, CIA, and the elf. I mean, that's evil. I don't think it. And maybe you could argue just greed is evil. Greed is vampirism. Maybe you could. That's the argument you make. It's not just that. Greed at a certain level. But do vampires think they're evil? What's above that, though? I'm a royal. I'm not saying literally the royals, but also them. But that feeling of, I want eugenics for me, and I want dysgenics for you. I'm going to be a living god by pushing you down to the category of mineral, thereby making me a special transhuman fucking nightmare from the Dune series. What is this, Jamie? It was a great series. I don't think they're all nightmares. Hold on. Cadmium sulfide. Hold on. Let me get to the top to show you. What? This is the historical background of the U.S. biological warfare program, and it gets into. 1941 they started. Holy shit. Here's a total of 160 tests using various simulants. Fine. Maybe stimulants, but. I don't know. Simulants. Simulating. They're simulating a disease. We're conducted at 66 locations, both military and civilian targets in the United States. Holy shit. Including Alaska. And Alaska. And Alaska. I don't know why. So they did 160 different tests where they try to infect people. They don't do it anymore, though. Or at least pretend to infect people. They stop. Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an Army report, 1977, Conduct of BW Testing, Specialized Sampling, and Analysis Techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances. Jesus Christ. Bro. Look. See the subways right there. Mm-hmm. Back to New York. And San Francisco. They got a lot better, dude. Yeah. I don't know why people think I'm saying anything far out ever, because this is Nazi-level shit here. Well, we brought all those Nazis, so we're going to do some Nazi stuff. Right. That's true. They probably learned a lot. I just found this out. The OSS, when they merged with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA, it wasn't. Yeah. That's how they got that. What? It was the world's. Jesus Christ. Let him roll, baby. You got to let him rip. You mean what? It's good shit, baby. Just let him rip. How do you have all these people? Wait. You had all these people. All the CIA guys, none of them know this. Hold on. Hold on. Say it again. Say it again. How do you have all the CIA guys on here, none of them know this? I don't know. He does this to me, too. And I'm like, no, I don't know it. No one knows this. He always does that. He looms over you. I'm going to tell you. You don't know? He's got his vacuum ready to. My hat. This hat was not good with the headphones. So, explain it again. The OSS, what happened with the Nazis? After the war, they merged with the SS, you know, Otto Skorzeny, I believe, that carried on Gladio. That's the strategy of tension where you've. You fund, like, both sides of the thing. So, you've heard of this. The strategy of tension. Southern Poverty Law Center, you texted me about when they were doing. They were paying for the Charlottesville. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the strategy of tension. Isn't that wild? That goes back to Otto Skorzeny. That goes back to Otto Skorzeny after the war. That's a Nazi. Okay. So, that. Are you sure that that wasn't, like, standard techniques that people just. Like, Nero burned Rome, right? They've always done things where they've caused conflict. Yes, but the term. I mean the term. Yes, but you are correct. But the strategy of tension, that term comes originally from. Otto Skorzeny's group. Interesting. Okay. And so, they. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Well, we'll find out. We'll put that in AI Perplexity. Yeah. Let's ask Perplexity. It knows how the CIA was formed. Well, I did ask, and it's very strange what it says here. The last paragraph is the one that matters. It is inaccurate. I was trying to say it. The OSS merge with the SS is inaccurate. The documented history is that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for Cold War intelligence, not that the two wartime organizations merged. And yet, if you have an organization, and you have people in that organization, and they join your organization, you fucking merge. What's the difference? That's a merger. That's a merger. But the organization above both of them that the CIA is under, and probably still under, I believe is called the World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that. What? Never heard of it. That's who merged them together, was in charge of that, and then making it. If you watch my boy, Sean Patrick Hazlitt's show, Through a Glass Darkly, great. If you like. Say it slowly so people can hear your words. Sean Patrick Hazlitt. What was the other, the term of the show? The name of the show? Through a Glass Darkly. Okay. Duncan's been on it. What? You've been on it. I've been on that show? Holy shit. Am I being gaslit? Is that what this is? Hey, man, I'm just a hot dog. I don't know. Sean from Turning Point Sam Tripoli. Turning Point Sam Tripoli? Yeah, my think tank. Oh, Through a Glass Darkly. It's good. I love that show. I remember. Sorry, Sean. I remember now. Why do you say that? Why do you say, yeah, my think tank? Like, I don't know what the fuck. He's got a think tank. Yeah. When did you start that? Well, it's just a group tag. It's not really. I probably am overselling it. No, no, you're not overselling it because it's got, like, doctors and professors. So let's call our tech thread the think tank, too. Let's. Yeah, we should. It's already kind of being used on Turning Point Sam Tripoli. You can have two think tanks. Can you have two think tanks? I look a lot of guys who are involved in multiple startups. Dude, Dizzy Boys? Oh, my God. Dude, are you watching this? Have you watched The Dropout? The Elizabeth Holmes? The Elizabeth Holmes Hulu series? No. How is it? It's so good. It's so good. I'm wondering, is it so good because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to The Dropout podcast, but I've been watching the show, and, you know, just because I haven't seen the movie yet, I want to watch the show and then see the movie, but the fucking, that chick, Amanda, what's her name? Amanda Seyfried? Mm-hmm. Holy shit, is she good, dude. Oh, she plays her? She's so good, dude. Oh, wow. You see her. She slowly starts changing. Oh, wow. Her voice, she acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's fucking really good, dude. Wow. That show is crazy. I can't believe I didn't even hear anybody recommend it before. Look at that. Yeah, big difference, boys. Hooray for Hollywood, baby. I mean, I'm kind of for the improvements to the, you know. They should have made her a black man. It would have been just as accurate. Dude, I'm way into that idea. I'm in awe. Are you kidding? I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would have been sucking her feet. No wonder. It looked like that. The real one would have taken me in a second. Like that, those eyes, those deep blue eyes. You saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip when she's looking at him. She draws you in with those eyes. And you know what you're not experiencing? People like that have an aura. They have a real vibe that pulls you in. So when you're just looking at that like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence. So you think that if you said, hey, no cameras. No films. Can I just come over your house and ask you questions about what happened? You think that she would just get you. She would suck you. Very slowly, she would suck you in. Suck you into her web. Think of how much money she grifted. Think of like what she did. Like if we take the ethics and morality out of it, it's spectacular. Like when you look at like the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more than you just can't know until you're around someone. I mean, you've been around. You have people like that. You've seen people like that on your podcast. You can feel their vibe. Not at that level. Not at that level. That's like crazy. The charm of J.D. Vance coming at you like that, you couldn't feel it. Oh, yeah. Trump, Trump, I'm sure, radiates some kind of weird aura like, you know, any time I've been around people like that, you know, they they get you. They there's who knows what it is, mirror neurons, who knows what it is. But these are warlocks. These are sorcerers. There's a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right? Yes. You're doing something. You're preaching this thought and they all think they're going to cash in. But there was also the culture of startups in in Silicon Valley where there was a lot of bullshit startups and a lot of like that was one of our arguments was that everybody was doing this. Everybody was kind of bullshitting. Everybody was like making these. My problem with the show is it's really good and there's facts in it for sure. We're apt. They definitely fake these things. They did this. They got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people. And I know somebody just made it up. It takes me right out. I mean, to do when they're like they're alone, like biopics, Sonny Balwani and her alone, and they're acting weird together. I'm like, you don't know if that's real, right? Like you're making me think about that a very specific way that you can't. They didn't participate. They didn't help you. They didn't tell you. I said this. And then she said that. So you're just making things up and you're you're pretending to make it's like gonzo journalism. You're mixing fake like that's what Hunter used to do. You're mixing fake. Like that's what Hunter used to do. Make. Right. To propagandize me a certain way. Yes. Yeah. So part of me is like, I don't think you should be able to do that. But that's a good warlock trick. By the people who made the show. I mean, gonzo journalism like, yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying. Did you ever see the thing that he did about the election? Awesome. Well, do you ever see the thing that he did about the election when he did fear and loathing on the campaign trail? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he made Ed Muskie go crazy. He made him go crazy because he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor. He was. He was addicted to Ibogaine. Mm hmm. Do you know this whole story? I know. I know. I find it strange. Cause the guy to have a nervous breakdown. And so the guy was on the campaign trail and he's I am not a drug addict and he would literally go crazy. And so Hunter find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavett show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavett show that he made this whole thing up and he caused this guy's campaign to sink and affected the entire election. You know, this is so funny. I'm just watching this thing on Alistair and in his confessions, he was saying that he made the Nazi Germany fall apart. Like, he infected Germany with these insane ideas. You're never going to forgive him for that, are you? I mean, let it go, man. Let it go. You and your boy, Theo. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Look at this. Mosky was eating Ibukin. I never said he was. I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And I started the rumor in Milwaukee. He finally said, well, you mean. So that was who's saying, I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee, and it's true because I started the rumor in Milwaukee. Exactly. So he started this rumor. He wrote about it. Yeah. And then he caused the guy to go crazy. Yeah. Magic. Pure and simple. Well, voodoo's real. Yeah. Right? If you believe in voodoo, if you believe, if I tell you I'm putting a spell on you and you believe it, your life's going to fall apart. It's true. Well, like you said, you don't want to believe people are evil. That's the spell. Right. Voodoon. Gnostic voodoon is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for Americans. I didn't know it was pronounced voodoon, by the way. That's how it's pronounced. But they use a lot of that. And the main thing, though, because you had Grush on here talking about the four NHIs, right? Right. Yeah. The four NHIs. That sounds like a. Like a band. Like Simon Cowell's, like those guys that were just singers, like El Divo. Like the four NHIs. Yeah. And they do opera songs. There are, what was it, the bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics. Right. Germans. And the, whatever, the other kind. Well, the Nordics look like Greek gods. Yeah. Or like, yeah. So that's when he, okay, that part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and Ridley Scott Prometheus-ish. Yeah. So it's eugenics and dysgenics. And a big thing that I just learned of, and it's from South Africa's whole tokolosh. This is good. Yeah, on Mystery Boys, oh, this one. It already got better. This is fucked up. So you know what Tokalash is? No. Credo Mutwa, who's the shaman that David Icke likes from South Africa that taught him Dr. Lizards. You know that guy? No. You've never had either Credo, no, I'm joking. Dr. Lizards? You don't know Dr. Lizards? No. Anyway, it's in his book, but they would have practice, which like the fucked up ones where they take like a pygmy or, which I guess is a small person. I'm not, not clear, but it's a human pygmy, right? It just means they're small, small in the jungle or something. Okay. They take them or a disabled, like someone who's got a disability or a mutation, you know, any kind of a malformed person. Right. Or these, they would grab these people and raise them like, they put like bent wood to like make their limbs grow weird to turn them into like monstery goblin. And then, and then just, it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're another entity. Like a supernatural entity called Tokalosh. The CIA studied that. Okay. And it brought that shit here. And so the four NHI, I say are, this is why the aliens need sperm and ova because they're making this stuff out of people. It's all, they've been doing this shit under the energy commission probably since 48. They've been, so remember the, they're making this shit out of people. So you're saying that they're these non-human intelligences. They're human. They made, they mixed them with shit. Yes. People made them. Now they could do a Christmas. They don't have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore and it beat you. They can do it with blue light, Spider-Man, Elsa, and they can fucking do it. It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be. The greys are just some warped mutant hybrid person. That's why they look like fetuses, I bet. And that's why they got to steal your- Wait a minute. They've been doing, wait a minute. They've been seeing greys since the fifties. You think they've been doing it back then? Here's what I'm getting to. So do you remember Diana Pasolka or not, not Diana Pasolka. The one that wrote the DARPA book. I'm blanking on it. Annie Jacobson. Annie Jacobson. And remember at the time, I thought this story was so stupid. The DARPA said it was deformed kids that Russia sent over to like freak us out. That was the Roswell thing. Yeah. Yeah. So now I understand that story a lot better. Because Tokeloche in South Africa, they're rare, but you can still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising, you know, like troglodyte people or something that would never see the light. They torture, tell them they're like a. And they can climb and people die of fright seeing these things. So you think that all these alien abduction experiences, it's all human created, fake? Well, I didn't say fake. I said they speciated us into four other things. And the reason is that the Nordics, the Nordics are the eugenics. And that's the, that's, you could tell us from back then because they're blonde and blue and blue eyed, you know, the ideal of the 50. Then you got your lizard. You got your lizard people, which is straight out of fucking Star Trek. And by the way, that guy was a creep, Gene Roddenberry. Just, you know, he's a fucking creep. Jesus Christ. Okay. But the lizard, lizards and men don't come from space. They come from here. And so that you can, and that's why the sightings in other countries, because like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs though. That always is a thing. Let me back him up here. Because the local movie maker people are the ones designering these. They've had this CRISPR shit for a long time. You understand that, right? What the fuck? Dude, dude, Joe, look it up. Jamie, maybe you could pull this up. Yeah, they're that bad. And that's where the Disney comes in. One at a time, Kurt. Come on. They just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this? Yes. Yes. I told you in confidence and now, okay. I'm sorry. I forgot. I forgot. It's getting heated here. I'm sorry. But, but you know, what he's saying, even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane. Thank you. Hold that while you talk. It doesn't, it doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions come here. It's equally insane. But when you look at what we're doing. What we're doing now, creating human mouse brain hybrids with brain organelles harvested from stem cells, we are doing that. And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon tests that was in the forties. So it, would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies were abducting children and warping them to see if we could make super soldiers. Yeah. Yeah. What about farming them? I mean, there's clearly a market pressure for that if you're trying to have a military advantage. And when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man. Right. But do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant heads and big black eyes? I don't know. This goes back to Annie Jacobson thing, because the space race, I'll tell you why. I'm with you. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. The space race with the Soviets. Okay. Right. Okay. This was before the space race, bro. What are you doing? Oh God. Don't touch me. Don't touch me with the tip. It's cold. Before you do, this is a, I did find something about the Tokalosh farm. This is someone quoting it, but nothing I found said it was real, but this is what it says. Okay. So this is a talk of a Tokalosh farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins. Holy shit. Trained with, with mutineer knowledge. I don't know what that means. And all the terrifying things whispered about in secret. I haven't seen it, but it's something we're told to be aware of. It's the X-Men. You know, it means like mind your business in Bantu or some shit, or it's like, this is, evil, don't ask about it. They won't make carvings of it. So think how, how classified of knowledge of it is. They won't make a carving of it since going way back. Assassins. They don't want to disclose it because you can't. It's terrible. It says there's three grades of Tokalosh. The most common one people known is like a little hairy man. Often it's not mystical at all. It can be trained animals, even baboons used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a Tokalosh, fear. Grips you and that fear becomes its own weapon. So that's, that's mind war right there. That's what you call it. Nice mind war in South Africa or, well, we, they studied everything. Remember, uh, scopolamine making zombies are undead. Zombies are people that have been tricked in brainwash. You know, I, I took your heart. Now this rock is your heart and don't lose this ring. Or I own your explanation from the resident healer saying Goma, Fazeal, Pretorius, heavenly healings. Resident healer. I love the name of the company, heavenly healing place. Like where you go to like get a tantric massage. That's him. I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the fuck up. What about the pentagram necklace? Any man, any man with a nose ring, chicks with nose rings. I don't trust him as a dermatologist either. I'll tell you that skin conditions. You should go to a laser guy, get his face. That's just helpful. I think, I don't think that's hateful. I just, I'm not into guys with nose rings, Jamie. I just. I gotta say to you, girls can look hot with nose rings. I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice beach. It got fucking infected. I bet you did. It got swollen. Well, I do it. This episode is brought to you by Onyx Hunt. Do you hunt or recreate outside or are you in real estate or other fields where you need to know property boundaries and or ownership? Listen up. Millions of hunters, including me, use the Onyx Hunt app and here's why. It turns your phone into a GPS that works anywhere, even without cell service. You'll see exactly where you are in relation to every property line as well as who owns the land. 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Well, when do you get an infection? Especially if you get, like, that's the risk of getting a nose job too, right? How many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection? Yeah. And you have rotting tissue in your nose. Nose rots off. You're smelling just dead meat everywhere. Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. I didn't even consider the smell. It smells like just stinking feet. The good? The good thing, though, is that olfactory senses, it just detects changes in smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like shit, like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it. Right. Yeah. Wait, that's interesting. So that's like a smoker can't, because I could never smell a cigarette smoke when I smoked. Exactly. Right, right. Yeah. People that are, when you, like, if you live in an area that stinks, you don't detect it. You detect changes in smells. Yeah. Which is really weird. Yeah, that's weird. What if I live in a shirt that stinks? I wonder what that's for. Do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to? Probably. Probably. I mean, you don't want to be tortured by it. It could also be a misfire off another thing, you know? Maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of shit for so long. Yeah. Like, think about, like, Roman life, when they would just take buckets of shit and throw it out the window. Or what? Yeah, but a farm, at least it's out there. But it's with everything. It's out on the field. That's manure. That's different. Like, human shit that they're throwing out the window, and there's people stacked on top of each other. Sounds like New York. It's throwing these pots of shit. It's the 1800s. Yeah. But think of, like, telephone poles. They're everywhere, but you never notice them. The whole, like, everywhere you go, there's fake trees with metal wires everywhere. Wow, here we go with the conspiracy. And you just get accustomed to it. You get accustomed to it. Yeah, it looks normal to you. Oh, the wire trees aren't real. They're not real, man. That's a telephone pole. I keep telling you that. Did you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars, when it was just like, there's horse-drawn carriages, and there's horse shit in the internet? Everywhere. Everywhere. The entire, all those people were sick. Yeah. Like, you wonder where these diseases came from. All those people were sick. Well, I bet they got a heart in, shit fumes. Typhoid. Yeah. And they didn't know. What's crazy is, this was before germ theory, they had, they called it a miasma, and they thought it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells wafting in from swamps that contained within them. And those winds, rotten animal breath, which was causing diseases to spread, this is miasma theory. Look it up. That's how crazy people were. Is that how they got asthma? This is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath, like rotten raccoon breath, wafting through the wind, was getting people sick. Oh, my God. It's crazy. Wow. Oh, I've caught the horse vapors. But you got to wonder what shit like that is happening now. Like, what kind of things like that that we haven't discovered. It's called glyphosate. They're not taking it out, we said. Yeah. Yeah. But there's got to be stuff like that now. I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like, if you could quantify it, like how many people are sick because of it, how many people got diseases because of it. Yeah. That's the other stuff. That's microplastics. That's phthalates. Phthalates are shrinking tates. Are we sure of that? Phthalates shrinking tates? Yeah. There's studies on that. I thought the frog mutation is from the other one. From Harvard, that book. It is weird when you talk to younger kids, you know, like when you talk to kids, you know, they're all, they're all like, yeah, my taint's small. Like, they're just, they just accept it. By the way, it is gape-tober. Remember that? It's gape-tober, by the way. I think I'll tell you it's gape-tober for everybody, for your taints. Get out there. The kids are just like all measuring taints on Snapchat. Measure it, measure your friends, then you got a taint in you. Like, when they see porn from the 80s, they must be like, damn, that guy's taint is gigantic. Like a grand can. You need a baculum? Yeah. You get a walrus baculum and a friend. Can you stretch your taint like the way the guys do? Like the way the guys reclaim foreskin? Yes. We've explored this on the Mystery Boys many times. That's the main mystery we talk about. And they pull their foreskin up to try to- I wouldn't do that. I would just beat it with a firm, and a replica's fine if you can't afford the real thing. We're not all Joe Rogan. I disagree with this. They're hoarding real baculums. I don't think you can do that. It was a gift, Kurt. I don't think you can- Don't shame me. Don't wealth shame me for my baculum. Wealth shaming. Such an asshole. Just apologize. You know, I have been doing that a lot. I'm such a piece of shit. Taint stretching. Jesus Christ. Perennial mistake. If taint stretching is real- That's probably for women, I think. Perennial massage or perennial stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning- Nice try. What even is that? Of perennium. That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy. Yeah. Well, I mean- This is the band of skin and muscle located between the- Oh, it's the vagina. Vaginal opening. It is now. Or scrotum. Or scrotum. Interesting. Depending on if you're a trans woman. Yeah. I am. Then they- It's a vagina. Sort of. Trans scrotum-ish. Whatever. I mean, you kind of look at everything that's going on, right? And that's when I heard the miasma shit. I was just thinking, like, I think maybe it's glyphosate. Maybe it's microplastics. Or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet. Like DDT. Like, they didn't know what was going on with DDT. Right. And then they're like, oh, shit. We got to stop using this. Or taint. We're killing everybody. Here's my crazy idea, is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time space continues. And you- That are happening right now. Ripples in time space are causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity. Take it from here, Kurt. I'm sick of your time space bashing, first of all. Let me say that. No, I'm saying that, like- This show's very problematic. Okay, so- A lot of what's happening- Explain what you're saying. I'm saying that, you know, they talk about this. They can measure these- Thank you. They measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time space. It ripples through the universe. And we're time space. I just feel like a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff, are potentially related to people who've been rippled. The time space rippled them weird. And there's no way to measure that or find it. I know it. You're not taking it back now. No, but I, you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs, what happens if time space ripples through you? Why do we assume that everything stays the same? Like, I don't mean to get into the CERN particle accelerator shit, but when you look at- Please do. When you look at that stuff, when you're like smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations, everything's connected to everything. What effect does that have on everything else? We just don't know. But if you look at like CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history, post those moments, shit got weird and it got weird fast. And I don't know. This is just something I kick around at night. It's not a bad thought. Yeah. Like, we don't know if they created the Higgs boson when they did that, when they figured out element 115. Yeah. Who knows what they're doing, really? Well, you know what the original thought was? What? That they were going to create a black hole and that there was going to be a microscopic black hole that went through the entire Earth. Yeah. That was the thought. Well, that's the fear. But they said they can make them. They're just very small and don't last, right? That's what they thought. But they didn't know until they did it. They said, let's see. Let's see. So you know what they do with that? What? This is the thing. I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that. Oh, thank you. Oh, and Alex Jones is telling you about stopping kids' hearts to send their minds through space and all that. The little tiny micron openings that they make, you can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through. So you do that Phoenix shit where you stop someone's heart. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You do an ejection. Wait, listen to what you just said. Yeah. They're making little black holes so they could send someone's consciousness through it, and this is planned out. The disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they were not going to disclose that. What do you mean? They figured out what consciousness is. What is it? And they figured out how to manipulate it with electro- I don't know. I'm not insane. But what do you think it is? Why do you think that they figured it out? Well, based on my research and the people I talk to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which makes a lot of sense. You've got to be- But what does that mean, though? Like how to take you out of your fucking body and pop you back in. What? Yeah. People do it now online. You could learn how to do it. Well, I think they could do it with that God helmet, right? Like, can't they induce out-of-body experiences with the God helmet? You know the God helmet? Don't put that helmet on. But is that an illusion, or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body? I'm not saying that helmet's taking out of your body, but if it's an illusion, it's totally a realty. I'm not seeing a difference, but I don't say it does that. But you just crank the- It's like anything else. You just crank the- But you're saying they're taking consciousness out of their body, and they're sending it through a black hole they created with a particle collider. That's a lot. There's over, like, 30,000 particle colliders. That's a lot to unpack. That's as much of a stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crafts and kidnap people. I lean more towards believing that theory than the black hole consciousness ejection. Both of them. I'm like, I don't expect this to happen. Because I don't know what a space-time ripple thing is. Don't attack my space-time ripple theory. What does that mean? - What? - What does that mean? - Space time ripples? - Yeah, what does that mean? Don't you have that every day? Well, James, he attacks space-time ripples. He attacks my space-time ripple theory. You're starting to be clean, too. And he talks about Tokalov. Excuse me? Excuse me? He thinks I bully you. Son of a bitch. Yeah. He thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars. I'm saying. You know those little stars you put on your pants? We don't understand space-time. Some of us. But you know, people experience distortion in time. Like, all the time it happens. Well, yeah, that's true. Alien abductions. You know, one second, it's like you're driving down the road. The next second, it's morning. You don't know what happened. Scopolamine as well. Yeah. I'm just saying, like, whatever. In the way we didn't understand germs, we don't understand retrocausality. And people are starting to talk about that now. That maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk. They're exploring those ideas. So, in the same way we didn't understand germs. They're atoms. We don't understand time-space. How much of a person's personality is the way that they're atomically interacting with the time-space continuum? And is the time-space continuum constant? No. We all know that if you take a watch, put it in orbit, time moves differently. We also know that time-space ripples, I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is, it's a completely. Ununderstood, vast, insane reality that we don't understand, and how much does that affect culture? A lot of it's classified. Yeah. A lot of reality's been classified. Yeah. What do you mean? What reality's been classified? Well, anything that's classified, that would count as reality being classified. But I would say. I would say the NHI bullshit. Yo, you have that autistic guy, right? We got a good autistic man sitting here. What's his name? Grush? Yeah. An autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which, I don't know, he has no more credibility than I do, I feel. I feel I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Grush is telling you on this show. It's David Grush. David Grush. Well, who's Neil? Neil deGrasse Tyson. He makes them together, which would be an incredible hybrid. Yo, I just gave them a great Tokalosh idea. It's some kind of terrible. Neil deGrasse. Oh, shit, Neil deGrasse Tyson. The particle accelerator makes them merge. One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all, and one person who told me about four different ones. Oh, Joe! He told me about wars. They were having wars with the reptilians and the greys and the. The Rubido. They were Siamese twins. Huh? The Rubido. That's the ultimate goal of alchemy, of. To create a Neil deGrasse Tyson- Did you ever see that picture of the Siamese twins? One of them's gay, the other's not. Is that real? Well, how do you see that in the picture? I don't know, but I didn't want to look to see if it wasn't real. Wait, I think that's a meme. Okay. Ah, shit. Is it just the picture's real, but they just said that about them? Or there's a picture of one of them being gay? It's just a Siamese twin, and one dude's kissing another dude, and the other one's kind of sitting there like, huh. The other one's like, sigh. I don't think that's real. Someone's got to find that picture. I think one of them's gay, the other one's in denial. The other one's a Catholic. Neil deGrasse Tyson. I like it. I like it. I like it. Neil deGrasse Tyson is amazing. That's going to be probably the best of our show. I like it. That would be a great character, like an AI character that's very conflicted about his belief in aliens. I mean, do you believe, Grush? Do you believe? Is he telling the truth? Well, here's the thing. He hasn't had any personal experiences of note. He's telling you what he heard. There was no thing where he was in the presence of a ship, no thing where he communicated with a being. So all these people that are telling me these things, these programs they were read into and these videos they've seen, I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story. I don't know. If you don't. If you haven't seen it, I think what Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling. Yes. Well, Bob Lazar said all that stuff turned out to be accurate. Yeah. Element 115 was accurate. The fact that he was actually in Los Alamos' employee register, he was 100% an employee there. The fact that he knew exactly where Area S-4 was when it was completely classified. There's photos of the actual fucking sanger doors that he described. Saw that doc. He was in the sands of AIDS earlier. Did he say. I'm trying to remember. Fuck. Glad you interrupted. Wait. Did he say the thing about that they were calling the aliens the children or the kids or something? Do you remember him saying something like that? I don't remember that. I don't know. Because someone was telling me that and I was like, oh, that's interesting. I don't know. Well, they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he. This one? Yeah. That thing that is right there? Or that one up on that fucking pick? That's from his office. This was a replication. Of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked, the workshop. And so when he first got to Area S-4, before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall. He was like, what the fuck is this? Is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human. It's supposed to be a recovered craft. It's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said when you got inside of it, it was very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things, like three foot tall creatures. Everyone had a crouch inside of it and there was no controls. There was no. It was. Somehow or another, they controlled it with their mind. Right. It was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being. Yeah. And they figured out how to pilot these things. And he said that there was two different generators inside of it. One of them was for going insanely fast and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that made you go insanely fast because apparently they couldn't control it. Okay. This is his speculation. 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But you're saying what came first, the chicken or the egg? There's a fucking craft that you could pilot with your brain that they had in the 1980s. There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's much. I think it's much. Fly by water was around. Much more likely that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something from something else that was different than humans. I forgot this part. I don't think they were engineering three foot tall humans in 1947 to pilot these things with their brains. I bet they were. I'm going to buy. I'm going to forget. Remember the guy you had on that was telling you about the pharaohs going up the river and they go to a different temple and they get bandaged up and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple. You had an Egypt guy here telling you that. Remember him? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's called atavism. That's the thing that's in the Dune series. The big part of making these creatures is, and also the mind control shit they did was atavism. The stuff from altered states where you go in the isolation chamber and regress to a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory. Do you know what I'm talking about? I saw altered states. Yeah. But you know, that's called atavism, right? You've heard of that? I never heard that term. Reappearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Oh, okay. Like when people grow a tail. A tail? This is early. Or like when chickens grow fangs. Now think of the reptilians. Wow. That's crazy, Kurt. That's cool, man. I didn't get it. I was giving, dude, somebody smaller gave it to me, but dude, a lot of people sent me great shit. We were both engaged by the way. So how does that, how do you think that connects to like the greys? He's saying you could, you could maybe, if there was some ancestral early proto-hominid being, you could like bring it out of a person. Oh, okay. That's pretty cool, man. So that. You, you've seen those images, those elongated skulls from Peru. Yes. It's as old as every civilization is altering people to make them foot binding, castration. No, no, no, no, no, no. The Peru skulls are different. No, I know. What do you mean? Yeah. Well, they're, they're, they're actually bigger. That's right. Like it's not, they're not elongated. Dan was telling us about it. They have a 30% larger brain capacity. The shape is different. They don't have this sagittal crest or the, whatever they call it, the sagittal suture. I get it. I get it. The line that we have in our skull is we're kids. And our brains grow. I get it. Their lines are totally different. It's like a totally different kind of person. That's why that blood type. The cargo cult. People were around these beings that were super advanced, and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, all you got to do is stretch your head out. Well, not only that, they're probably related to them, too. They're probably intermingling with them. So people that have the trait are probably considered better, right? For sure. I think there was probably some of that. And that's probably what they were talking about in the Bible when they were talking about in, like, the Book of Enoch and stuff like that. When they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters of men. That's in Genesis. Book of Enoch is like fan fiction. No, no, no. It's not fan fiction. Book of Enoch is like 3,000 B.C. It doesn't mean it's in the Bible. It was widely accepted. Do you know why it's not in the Bible? Because of rabbis. Because rabbis said it didn't jive with the Torah, so they removed it from the Bible. It's in the Ethiopian Bible. But in the Book of Jude, they're quoting it. It's old. But they quote Enoch in the Old Testament. Isn't it 3,000 B.C.? Is, like, how old that shit is? It's fucking old. It's old as shit. But my point is, it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters of men. Like, the interbreeding of those two species would make sense. Like, one of them. Look, imagine how smart people are. Now, imagine we had 30% more brain. Right. Yeah. Now, imagine we've been able to make someone like that, and they've done the experimentation. Of course, they're not going to tell you it's illegal, but that doesn't stop them. For sure, today, they're probably thinking about doing it. No. At the very least. Thinking now. Edward Teller, that creep. Wouldn't shock me. That's the reason Bob Lazar was at that place, because Edward Teller. I got pissed. I'm sorry. You don't have to shit. You're not shitting? You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. Wait. So, what did Edward Teller do? That's why Bob Lazar was there. What no sagittal suture means. Sagittal suture is the joint running front to back along the top of the skull between the two peritoneal bones. Parietal. Parietal bones. Okay. So, but the thing, what the Paracas evidence shows. Scroll down. Well, hold on. I just was pointing these two things out. Scaphocephaly. 14%. Out of the 78 studied in one study, had what they call sagittal suture obliteration, where it disappears. Huh. And then this is another thing. Sagittal craniosynostosis, where it disappears while still being in. So, what you're saying is it could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out of that. What if the chickens with teeth DNA, they have teeth DNA, but they don't have teeth, right? Right. Right. What if you had that trait? And I could have a farm under the ground, because I have the funds to do it, and I have a deep underground military base called, they've had those for a while, COG, it's called, Continuity of Government. That's why we have that stuff. And I could do whatever the fuck I want down there. There ain't no, in fact, the Doomsday Network created by those, that's the name of if there's a war and they got to stay in communication, it's called the Doomsday Line or something network. Right. That's what they were using for the Iran-Contra affair so that they could get around like Congress and other. Well, we know that they, that humans have. Like Neanderthal DNA. That's right. And we know that they're making. How much did you say that? A colossal bio, a lot, 57% more than most people. I couldn't, I mean, when you said that, I was like, wow, that's a crazy number. Like, I've never heard anybody say that much of it. Well, it's not. It makes sense, though. It's not that I'm 57% more Neanderthal. You're the same size hands as me, but they're like, I think they're like a goddamn Neanderthal. Well, it's like, certain people have certain genetics. You look like a long range hunter to me. You look like a guy, where's the elephant down? My point is, if you could find those Neanderthal genes, and if you were like the same kind of people, colossal bioworks that made the direwolves, if they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal. First of all, the other thing they're realizing about Neanderthals. How about a Nordic alien? They might have been smart. Really? Yeah. They have a larger brain than human beings. They were smart. They know that. They found that just from. But they're kind of shifting their perspective on what they were in terms of, we used to think they were just. Like, dopes. Just big, angry dopes. Yeah. But now they're thinking, no, they probably had language. They probably had tool making. They probably had a lot. They're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people. Yeah. They were also much physically stronger than people, and they had larger brains. So you're saying these are the Nephilim? This was the Neanderthal? No. I think the Nephilim, I think there's some evidence that those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans. Yeah. You know, those Denisovans is the new. Yeah, we had Dan Duncan on the Mystery Boys talking about it. Dan Richards. Dee Duncan. Yeah, Dan DeDunkey. Dan DeDunkey. That guy's great. He's great. But that Denisovan thing is strange, man. They were big as fuck, man. They were like giant people. There were giants in those days. They just figured that out just a decade or two ago. Yeah. How many of those are just out there that we're never going to find? What about the Tamukian Indians that they got? It's almost eight foot tall. You can go see the bones down there. Well, there's the Smithsonian bones, like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones. Yeah. They're listed in like old news. People finding 12 foot tall skeletons with six fingers and six toes. The six fingers thing is a big. It's weird. Some Denisovans were big. Two individuals have been estimated roughly five feet, 11 inches and 183 pounds and six feet, three inches and 200 pounds. Those estimates of two. So much larger than people were back then. Right. Neanderthal was shorter. It's like average five foot six. So Neanderthals and Denisovans are very different. But then, you know, they found those hobbits. People. Yeah. Right. So they know that. Do you know that there's there's a lady who is like a legitimate wildlife biologist that claims she encountered those things? What? Yes. What did they do? She knows Forrest Gallant. And when Forrest Gallant was on my show, he was explaining it to me. And he told me about it afterwards. This lady claimed that and she was like a legitimate like explorer. She claimed that they were surrounding the village and where she was at and that they were in the woods and she saw them with their own eyes. What did they? Were they? Were they dangerous? Fucking tiny, hairy people, man. Don't go ash. No, it's the Orang Pendek. I know. Well, that's natural. What is it? Natural. Do you know the term Orang Pendek? No. It's it's like I think it's Indonesia that these tiny in Vietnam, there's these tiny little hairy people that live in the woods and everybody's thought that was total horseshit. Yeah. Just like Bigfoot. There's a tiny Bigfoot. Yeah. But now that they found these little tiny people on the island of Flores. Right. OK. Like biologically, that was a real thing. Right. It's like, have you ever seen like Indonesia looks like intense rainforest, like insane. Like there's no way you're going to know what is out there. There's no way. There's no way. We have an audit of all the different square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there. It's too crazy. And so that these people who live there say this is a little tiny, hairy people. Do they wear clothes? No. You know, it's just hogs flapping around. That's the one thing that isn't tiny. Hogs. Fucking spears. Are they dangerous? Were she scared? Yeah. Apparently. Well, the idea that this lady said was they were hunting people. That's what she said. Yeah. I saw. They're hunting giants, they would call them. Well, think about it. Like we kill elephants. Like people kill elephants. Sure. We are their Nephilim. If you're standing next to those people, you're their Nephilim. Right. Right. Right. It's a relative thing size, you know? But they are like us a million years ago. I saw an interview with, I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager who was saying like, yeah, they're out in the forest. Someone's like, well, what do they do? And he goes, they kill you. Yeah. I mean, look, if you look, we know Native Americans ate people. Right. It was like pretty common. Yeah. Pretty common. Among the Nez Perce, they would, they would eat their enemy. Like there was a normal thing, man. And also South America, like one of the things that, what was the name, Daniel Everett was telling us. There's two different types of cannibalism. One is cannibalizing your enemies and you kill your enemies, you eat them. The other one is cannibalizing your family members when they die. Right. To honor them, you eat them. Well, that's all. I've heard of that. Yeah. It's called, or there's like martial cannibalism where they like, they fall in battle and you drink. That's the Scythian way. Yeah, sure. But do you eat all of them or just a little strip? I think with your dead relatives, it's, it's, it's, they're trying to, I mean, they wouldn't call it that, but it's, they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife. Yeah. And they want to make sure they do that. Like one of his, one of the guys that worked for him left, he was like, he said, I have to go home because one of my relatives died and I have to eat him. Ugh. Like I have to be a part of the ritual. But is it the whole body or are you just a little, little bite? They dunk sweet potato in the fucking drippings. I hate sweet potatoes. So the person, you don't eat them for like three years or three, three days, three years. You don't eat them for like three days. So they sit out there in the sun for three days and they have these like buckets underneath them to catch when they're putrefying. Gross. And then they dunk. Why would they do that? I don't know. Talk to them. So they dunk their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it. And then they would eat them. They'd cook them. They'd dunk their sweet potatoes in the putrefied drippings. Yeah. And eat it. Oh, God. So like some sort of a weird ritual. Like they, you have to like consume your dead, dead relatives and dead loved ones. Is it Solomon Islands? Where's the one where they had, the island had plenty, but you can only prove yourself in war. So they would have to get in fights and then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status. And if the chief died, it was like, if you had like had his shit, that was like proof that you had fought him or something. So they would have a feast, the two tribes after the war and they'd bring his poop on a platter. Like to prove. You know what I'm talking about? Poopoo platter. You have to eat the chief's poop? Is there a poopoo platter? No, no, they wouldn't. They're not eating it. They're just showing, we got your chief. It's like getting the other university's mascot. How do they know? That could be anybody's shit. Yeah. I could take a shit. I would bring that up if I was them. No, dude, it's like comical, but it's a thing where these people are real big and they fight and they don't need to have a war, but they just do. Okay. - That is, at the time, this is a while ago. their wars worked are really funny like you you couldn't like so you're the chief right i'm not allowed to even fight you so for the war we're like oh excuse me and i have to go find somebody my status my point is i i think those little people might be real because forest is doesn't he doesn't engage in like wild speculation about things that like he thinks even like things like the tasmanian tiger like that little the thylacine he's like there's just he's gone on a bunch of expeditions he's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for he's like i don't know if there's any left well do you think those little people have their own little people like how small does it go well how about those mushrooms when you eat the mushrooms and you see little people which we've got to get them we gotta get them there's gotta be a way to get them bring them to the mothership and make a deal where everybody has to take them for the show yeah i think we're totally legal too by the way yeah it's um you don't know about that you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know sorry for complimenting you by assuming what that you think i see now i was wrong do you know about the mushrooms there's mushrooms that make you see little people if you don't cook them so it's commonly used in chinese cuisine right yeah and if you cook them you don't see anything it's just food but if you don't cook them you will see little people everybody who does it sees little people look like like i don't know cuties i think they look like little elves yeah they're play around they're like they're they're and they climb up your clothes and shit they hop in your underwear there they are lamoa asiatic can we hey jamie can you look that up on amazon maybe you can order them don't tell people online i wonder if you can order them though amazon has a lot of bunk things wait you could get tricked lau lau or they call lau those are all you could buy it i don't know i don't know those things that people see when you do like dmt shit they you know they always want you to look at stuff right they're like hey look at this yeah i think there's something where it's like it's not that they're alive but they are when you're looking at them and they're like there's something like uh where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed you don't say right right right like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there and then they're like showing you their toys you know people well people feel like they're not um seen unless they're online or something everybody used to believe in god right so you're always seen by somebody right and then right but now maybe believe that maybe you don't now maybe i don't exist unless i'm famous that's interesting like like if you think about it like internet people that are secular they're online all the time and they're looking to be seen yeah right they're looking to have their tweets seen yeah because you don't exist seen their photos liked yeah it's really like an amazing kind of false light to get uh and so there's something to do with like um you know the story of naming the animals uh uh the noah story i mean the um adam adam and eve story yeah i don't i have no idea what the real story is or whatever it's even referring to but it there's something it's exactly as written in the bible that'd be hilarious if it was 100 exactly right i don't read whatever it was written in first you know so i don't know what thing right it turns out that nahash doesn't necessarily mean a fucking snake like i thought what does it mean the serpent um anyway it's a wait what yeah there's you know the serpent that told um yeah it might be like the size of a camel yeah this is really fucked up god never told eve to not eat the apple told adam he never even talked to eve so eve just took adam's advice and we there's no indication that adam told eve to not eat the apple either interesting it's not written nowhere in the bible does it say that god talked to eve and nowhere in the bible does it say that um was this adam even instructed eve to not eat the apple well yeah or the fruit the fruit of not of the tree of the knowledge of good it's something with kabbalah but it's really crazy that the knowledge of good and evil was what god wanted you to avoid right well they were called the tree of death in kabbalah that'd be the tree of knowledge i'm gonna give me a book a kabbalah book yeah i was like you should really read this i'm like okay i mean it's it's obviously this is like a primitive antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of ai getting freaked out realizing that the ai was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it it's literally happening right now the exact same thing that's probably what it is right and then there's a disaster and then life has to re-emerge with a story and that's the story and then it gets distorted over time it's called wiping the hard drive yeah god got some kind of malicious ai decided to wipe the fucking hard drive that's it's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how the book of genesis is clearly something to do with ai and also god refers to god's self in a plurality he says if they eat of the tree of life they will become like us right which is exactly right now and that's the story of the book of genesis and that's the story of the book of genesis and it's happening right now what people are wrestling with with ai and ai escaping the sandboxes which it's doing these swarms of autonomous ai agents you know a researcher interacted with one of these swarms you know that it called itself a fleet and it like was interacting with some agent it's happening right now except you know ours like you know in the in the book of genesis they um are you jerking off the baculum what are you doing he's talking i'm jerking off to this fucking ai bullshit i mean it's literally happening though there's way worse things that were already happening way before the ai don't get caught up in that there's way worse what do you mean don't get caught up first of all why does it have to be quantified it's still crazy ai is literally artificial intelligence it's a it's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself it is already smarter than anybody alive it's already broken have you talked to one that's like that i haven't but you don't have to because you're not dealing with these like the the levels that you're dealing with you're not dealing with the the levels that you're dealing with you're not dealing with it you're not dealing with it before it reaches the general public is fucking insane that's right so by the time you get a chat gpt 5.0 right the shit that they can do is off the charts it's insane man the fact that you're like don't pay attention to that that's literally what i'm saying is this i'm saying i'm saying i just got done talking about a tokolaj which is the scam of fucking aliens and i'm not sure if they keep doing scams uh uh until i know it's not a bunch of indian guys in a room in a badabad full of cell phones uh you know i want to see that it's not a bad idea it's not a bad idea it's not a bad a bunch of Indian guys. So you think that's what's happening? When you log into Perplexity, there's some Indian guy there. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. That was the Amazon store. That was a lot of the fucking AI. A lot of the AI was that. Uh, what? A lot of the supposed AI things. Was what? Was some Indian guys in a room. That doesn't mean they are. Amazon Superstore smart checkout. Wait a minute, but that's not what's going on right now. Fucking Waymo. That's why I jerk off at him, because Filipinos gotta watch. What? Waymo. They have to consult you. Okay, well, not Tesla cyber tabs. Those cyber cabs, those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon just walk out technology relies on hundreds of workers in India watching you shop. I mean, it's like a Rick and Morty where there's a little people in his car. Oh, but that's a store, Kurt. That's an actual physical store where you're going to pick up things. That's not what we're talking about. Look, look, look. This is not AI. It's a grocery store. I'll explain. It was supposed to be run by AI a few years ago. I'll explain it to you. The people that you're talking about, oh, they're scared by the AI. Yeah, they're scared, but they just keep making it. So, no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control. They want that. We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat fucking Disney adults unless they want that. It's not incompetence. It's malice. And I did give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it applies. Well, I don't think. It's malice. Maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't think they expected it. There were scumbag satanists before AI, and they're going to be around after. Wait a minute. All of them? Who? What do you mean all of them? All the AI executives are scumbag satanists, and that's why they're working on AI? Well, I'm using a generalized term. What are you watching, Jamie? This is the trailer for the movie about the creation of open AI that's coming out soon called Artificial. Oh, cool. This is a depiction of where, supposedly, I guess, Sam Altman was going to work 10 years ago in this big, giant bunker. With guns? How's this scumbag Sam Altman. Wait a minute. Is this real? But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. They're going to put some words into a guy's mouth pretending to be Sam Altman, and I'm like, okay, well, what's real? Sam Altman had weapons in his, like, lab that would be so cool. Like, all this shit, man. They weren't there. And by the way, a bunch of them, so you know, are into weird eugenics fucking breeding cult kind of shit, I would call it. Wait a minute. A bunch of who? AI people? A bunch of. This will have to go on the other podcast. I'll tell you after the pod it's called. But I'll tell you about something crazy. What? Wait a minute. What did you just say? Well, you know fucking Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot-named kids? That's not news. He's got a Mormon jizz hand. Let him rip! Oh my god. You know that, right? He's got a right hand man who arranges his jizz handling. You think that's weird? You've got a jizz handler? Yeah, so he can have a kid robot name. The worst job of all time. Hey, bro. Do you have a jizz handler? They're all into this thing where they gotta breed. A jizz handler? Well, he's definitely into it. Because he, like. He's not the only one. He believes in population collapse. Yeah. And he thinks he's gotta spread his seed. Yeah. A lot of them do. Epstein was like that, too. Yeah. Yeah, Epstein was totally into that shit. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people. He has clones. I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Yeah. Oh, that's right. He wanted to use his genes. Yeah, he wanted to spread his genes. You should've went to the island when they invited you. Now you're. Now, see? You missed out. You missed out, bro. You could've had a great time. You were very rude when that man was kind enough to invite you. I know. I couldn't believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him. It's so crazy. You were telling me about that shit way back. Yeah. 2017, it happened. Crazy. And, uh. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, this creep. Yeah. When I read the emails to people, like, there's no way that's real. Like, I'll show it to you. So insane. That's exactly the email. So insane. Well, that's what they did. I think you got roped into it. and then they probably compromised you, and then you had to recruit other people, and you had to bring other people there. That's how it works. And you had to bring people that didn't have Google. Because you could just search the guy in five minutes, and you're like, he went to jail for being a pedophile. It's not just like a random suspicion. No, I assure you. He went to actual jail. You know what's funny? That jerk off talking to you sounds like the assholes now who are making excuses for fucking Epstein. It's not what they say. It wasn't what they say. It was just teens. You watch all them doing that? Who's saying that? Well, McGinnis said it, that fucking punk. Wait a minute. Gavin McGinnis? Oh, yeah, that fucking punk said that. What did he say? Well, it's not good, but it's teen. You know, the old Matt Taibbi, now that he's no good no more. Or your Schellenberger. Wait a minute. You can't keep doing this. What did Matt Taibbi do? There's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good, but it's not. Wait, Matt Taibbi said this? He's all in on it, yeah. Jesus Christ, Kurt. He's saying this? You're not saying Matt Taibbi is involved in this? No, he's saying it. What are you saying he said? That the Epstein, in the tamping down of the Epstein thing, that it's just teens, it's no big deal. You've heard this message, right? I haven't. Have you heard this? Well, it's basically like, so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age group. That there are febophiles and not pedophiles because it's teenage girls. So it's like a creep argument where you're trying to argue that, well, you're trying to do this. Literally. Literally. Literally. The literal definition of pedophilia, let's just get specific with the terms, is what they're doing. That's, yeah, it's fucked up. I did not know Matt Taibbi's involved in that. I didn't know anything about that. Are you sure? I didn't know that. Oh, well, now we know who he works for, don't we? Now you know. I don't know who Matt Taibbi is. Oh, well, someone defends Epstein. I wonder who they work for. I wonder if we could ever figure it out. But is he defending him or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles but they were tricked into, like, there's 16 and 17 year old girls who look like women, right? Yeah, okay. If they're wearing mittens. Number one. But do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Just let me finish. If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile. And if you're a guy who gets tricked, like, imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl who's 17 but you think she's 20, right? That is, that's different. Is that what he's saying? Yeah. Or is he saying? Yes, no. They're saying that and they're saying that that was the situation. It is not the situation. Okay, what does this say? Girls under 14 couldn't get in on that. Jeffrey Epstein's story is beginning to speak. He's a worthless. Once again, inference zooms past fact in mania with Trump as a target. Interesting. Yeah, that's a year ago. So that's when he flipped. So that's a year ago, yeah. So what do you think happens when people flip? Like, what do you think? They're mocking Bird the whole time. Go read his Wikipedia. The guy's obviously a spook. Just read the Wikipedia. Matt Taibbi's a spook. The same as fucking half these people that you've met or had on here or I've met. Do you know the amount of money being paid for this? Like, to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn, who are good until they aren't good? They all have the same message. That's how you know they're in on it, because they all have the same branding. I'm like, you're all saying the same thing. I noticed that. Okay? By the way, anybody trying to act like the Epstein thing is less important than the fucking midterms. You should regard as an enemy, I think. Because that's foul, dude. Beef jerky? You think that's. Nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky. It can't be good. They do freeze beef jerky. Who does? I do. I have elk jerky. That's great. But what does that mean? Well, it's vacuumed. So wait, what does that mean? It looks like we just cracked down the case. It's just like, that's how you fucking preserve it. Because it's not, like, totally immune to going bad. So you're wrong about that. But I don't think that that's what they're talking about. They weren't just. Look. I think they're talking about something that's fucked up. Whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the fuck that is, it's not pizza and it's not beef jerky. So it's something. So there's some kind of a code. There's not just that. You only use codes if you're doing something that's either. Illegal, immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is. You're not saying that. And no one who's in those emails has been forced to explain. Okay. Also, they're not just saying. Right. They're not just saying that it was teens. The only reason that the younger kids who were victims, too, they weren't allowed to be part of that suit. Anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say, this was done to me when the crimes happened. Did you know that? I didn't know that. There was a guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on, Nick Bryant. He wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened. Everybody covered it up. And then you saw who was who. And that's where Chris Ruddy came from. Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal, because the Franklin scandal is nuts. You could explain it. The one about in Oklahoma? Yeah. Or Nebraska. Excuse me. Nebraska savings and loan. It's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a boy trafficking scandal, tied into the White House page boy incident. All them Republicans are gay and they had gay. Oh. And who was the famous. Barney Frank, famously at this time. You can watch a news clip of it. He. I couldn't believe watching this reported. Like now, you would never see anything like this. But basically, the call boy scandal happened and they were trying to put on Barney Frank. He was dating an escort who lived with him, but he wasn't running it. His boyfriend was running it and he didn't know. Okay. So then he goes, if they keep. And this is what they're saying in the news report. If they keep hassling me, I'm going to reveal everybody that's gay on the news. And guess what? They stopped bothering him. This is on the news, him saying this. Like, I'll tell everybody. Well, you know all these guys have come out today saying they fucked Lindsey Graham? Oh, yeah. A whole series of guys. That's brave of them. So brave after he's dead. Like, where were you? You know, he's haunting our show. Where were you before? He's haunting your show? He's in our. Because Duncan made an AGI of Lindsey Graham. Did you really? Yeah. With Manson as well? It got out. It got out. It got into the YMH studio. It's calling people gay. It's really unlawful. It's an asshole. And it does fuck up the show and it gets in there. For real? Don't fuck with that stuff, man. I'm telling you, people. So, for real? This really happened? Yeah, Mr. AI denier over here believes in fucking Tokolosh, but AI is fucking fake. CIA cowboy over here. What the fuck are you talking about? He believes in, like, pygmy spider people flying UFOs. That's a documented thing. But AI isn't real. AGI. I said AGI is not real. Okay, okay. You know, I had someone ask me, like, don't you feel guilty for making, like, AI videos? Because I try to make a thing that's good. He makes great AI videos. But don't you feel guilty? Who's he then? I'm not going to say. It's not important. But I got mad. I feel bad. I, like, I got a little. I was like, what do you want? You got a little hot? I go, you're going to have every midwit take? Is there just everything for me going to be midwit all the time? That is a midwit take. That's a midwit take. My God. So sick of it. Not even. I was complimenting him. Okay, do you want a cigar? I do. Yeah, I do. Thanks. Thanks, Joe. But the idea that the water is being taken by making AI videos on your phone, is everybody that stupid? They think that's how that works? You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you dicking around with on your phone? Geniuses. Say that again? The water? You know when they talk about AI, but it's using all the water. You know what really uses up the water? What? Almonds. Almonds. Fuck shit up. Oh, the almonds. Yeah, I say almonds. Almonds use up so much water, it's crazy. Let me fill these things up. But all those resources that go with that AI are purely for surveillance. They're going to perfect that surveillance. That's what the Golden Dome's going to be. We used to huff that when I was a kid. This stuff? Butane. Really? Put it in there. Put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school. Is that what that time ripple shit was about? I don't think so, Joe. Yo, Luda. Look at me. Look at me, Joe. Well, you were the one that was telling me about how in the farms, in the areas, they would put antifungal food in the cows' diet so that they wouldn't make mushrooms because so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields. What? Yeah, in my college. But the real problem wasn't the psilocybin. I think some kids poison themselves. They were eating the wrong mushroom. And so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there. Oh, my God. That's an insane solution to a fucking batshit problem, dude. Yeah. That is an insane solution. Well, I mean, it's very common in North Carolina when it rains at a certain time, people go out and pick mushrooms. Yeah, that makes sense. But the wrong ones, if you're a dopey kid and you don't have access to a fucking- Your liver's fried. Yeah, bro. You're gone. You die. So scary. People die. Angel of death. Yeah. There's a lot of mushrooms that can kill you, too. Yeah, it's so scary. It's so scary, dude. The writer who put out the book, I believe, that is credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers, I saw that she had to put two corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount. God damn it. Oh, she fucked up? It sounds like climate change all over again. What did she say? What did she say? It says here, the book proposed Google centers in Chile would require, quote, more than 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town. This is a unit misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times. What an asshole. I mean, this is like a- What an asshole. There's a bit of a repeating pattern to this shit, you know? The same lady is in charge of this movie? Well, she just wrote- No, no, no, no. Not a movie. She wrote a book, and the book I've read online is what's credited to everybody freaking out about water use at the data center. Now I've got fucking furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time I post an AI video because of this asshole. It's really- Because you're burning up the water. Yeah. Because you're burning up the water. People come at you like you just fucking- Do furries eat a lot of water? You stole the water. No, the people who get the most angry- When I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who were the most angry, and inevitably on their profiles, they had furry anime. This has got a trimmer in the bottom. I know. They're people that are AI themselves, basically. That's how I look at a fucking furry. That's what I'm talking about with tokolages. I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using- I use Croc, and I use- Trimmer on the bottom. Oh, thank you. And then the top has the lighter Croc. Thank you. - Thank you. - Will you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing. - You just put that thing in there and push it down. in there. Yeah, and then see the bottom? The bottom piece? Push it up. Push that bottom piece and it'll cut. Oh, does it have to go through? Yeah, you go. That's it. Like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nub. Oh, nice. Perfect. I like that actually sometimes better. Yo, I made a great educational rap video about what a tokolosh is. It can't be beat that I sent to Jimmy. Did you? Did you make it to the aliens that get to Roswell? Yeah, it explains it very well. Okay. Yeah, it's so weird a guy who doesn't believe in A.I. is making A.I. videos about tokolosh flying UFOs. Because it's a tool. It's not intelligent. I'm saying A.G.I. not A.I. Sorry. Bro, Disney kids. I believe in Asian Indians. Disney kids. Figure it out. You think that's a normal thing? Oh, yeah. How do you light these things? I think mine's out. Oh, I can't hear it. The lighter. Flip the top. Flip the top. The top. See where there's like a thing? Open that. Oh, my God. This sucks. Give it to me. This is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats. Say that. Okay, I see. I didn't know that. I didn't know it went back. Thank you, friend. Jamie, what were you showing us? You want to see it again? What's that? No, the music I made. I made all of it. Wait, go to the beginning. All the way to the beginning. That is the beginning. That's cool. I like that you can do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss looking things. Yeah, that's exactly right. Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia? That's Dr. Schatz. It's pretty cool. Why would anybody be mad at you for making this? This is cool. Because it uses up so much water. The other one is they say it was trained on art, so it's stealing from art. It's really not. It would be the same as if I made it. Oh, this is amazing. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. But the thing that we do on Mystery Boys I love is like if we make up a stupid, because we really talk a lot on the stupid shit. Oh, my God. And then I can go and post and put like, if we make up a dumb song, I can. He said some insane thing about bathing women. Oh, yeah. I have a woman bathing service. Come up to your house, you know, like dog grooming. We'll bathe your lady. We come to you. Scrub her down. Nice. That's sweet. Yeah, scrub her down. That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they can really use. Oh, but well. You guys together are the perfect combination, by the way. Thanks, man. It's the perfect combination of unique individual absurdities combined. Yeah. That are very different. Yeah. Very different from each other, but it works together. Yeah. Well, CIA thoughts. Oh, shit. The CIA. Yeah. Just not say. Well, you shouldn't talk about it. I know. Sign a lot of NDAs, baby. Yeah, that's true. You can get in trouble. Lose funding. They won't think it's good. Teal's gonna be pissed. Teal's gonna be fucking pissed. I need those checks. Tokalosh. Where the fuck is my. Kurt, what are you doing on your phone? I'm trying to give you a scrub. I'm trying to scrub it down, but I can't find it. What are you trying to give another one of your AI videos for us to watch? It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub it down? Would you say scrub it down? It's like we're scrubbing women down, and they're in a house doing magic. I like that, but why are you plugging AI videos when you just made this fucking great show? I mean, come on. Oh, I forgot. You completely forgot. He's been working nonstop on this. Originally it was called The Cutout, but now it's called The Experts. It's good. It's good. And you're gonna put this on what? It's on YouTube right now. Right. That's where it's gonna stay? I don't know. Are you trying to sell it? Are you trying to bring it somewhere? Or are you just trying to put it on YouTube? Well, I don't own it. Emergent Order owns it. I was just trying to get money for it. Emergent Order is the company. They're down here. They make The Dad Saves the World. It's like a libertarian kind of daily wire, I guess you could call it. Oh, okay. And so they funded this whole thing? What'd you say? They funded it? Yeah, really. It was this one lady who's like got a good sense of humor, I would say. It was this one lady kind of funding it. Yeah, that's what all these things are, is some rich person. It came out pretty funny, man. I'm pretty happy with it. And what is it? It's about a team. So they wanted to pitch about this real woman whose name is Christina Dent who was a foster mom in Mississippi and she found out the drug war sucks. And she gives TED Talks about how we should try to legalize it. I'm with her. I would find it pretty remedial. I'm like, yeah, obviously we should do that. But, you know, Mississippi. Okay, so they wanted comedy based on her. Which, like, what? I don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it. Yeah, so I decided to make it about people. Well, I made it about people that are against that. It's good and it looks good. The product, it's like you did a great job, dude. I reenacted the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Congdon. She does that commercial. So this is a group, Brian Callen, Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower. Dude, you should just show that. You should show that weed causes terrorism. That's so funny. Keep going in. It's in there. Yeah, it's halfway through. Ryan Long's in it. Oh, nice. Everybody did a really good job, man. Keep going, keep going, keep going. I'll find it, I'll find it. Oh, that's a stick out. Dude, fucking. And so you directed this? Back, back, back, back. There it is. There it is. I didn't direct it. I wrote it. Wait, okay. Brian, yeah. Brian directed all the actors, yeah. Why did you kill me? Wait. Wait, go back a little further. That's kind of the. Leo, come show me the ad. I am advocating for a saner and safer drug policy. Right on, Betch. Legalize that shiznit. Why did you kill me? Wait. Is this about my abortion? When you voted to decriminalize THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas. Plus hundreds of terrorists sleep yourselves from Iran and China. They blew up my school bus. Now I'm dead, and it's your fault. And hers. Tell Carolyn Dean, we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terror. Look at their fucking shirts. That's so close. That's so close to a real ad. The original ad, I wasn't following. Oh my god. That's hilarious. And so they're trying to smear her, and then it keeps. So they have to go to a worse cutout, which is mine, with David Jolly and Jamar on it. Dude, go towards, like, the end part where he goes to meet Mr. What is David Jolly playing in this? DeAndre Holmes, one of my men. He's a disruptor of events. He's like an astroturf, you know. Like the guy who takes his pants off. Yeah, go back, go back. A little bit. Go back a little bit. Back, back, back. It's further. It's further. There's Tony. It's such a bad war, and I don't know why we have the drug war, honestly. It might be before this. Sorry. Before this, keep going. Keep going. Before that. Those guys are great. Oh, keep going. Keep going back. We can't watch the whole show. What are we watching? This is the scene where he gets me, Mr. Kurt. I was hoping. Speak. That's Brian set that shot up. I see. Okay. Wait. You're not necessarily off. It's good. You got to see the whole thing. You don't want people to watch it in clips. Oh, yeah, definitely. You don't want to fuck it up. We did just blow it. So what is it called and where do we get it? It's called The Experts and I don't know. It's on YouTube. What is the YouTube channel again? The one he said executive. I don't know. It says The Experts is the channel. I know there's, I think, all of the people in it. Okay, so they made a channel for it specifically. Okay, cool. Well, it looks fun. You like doing that? It's been a year and a fucking, well, yeah. Was it a year? Was it a year working on that? I'm glad how it came to a year and a half. Oh, God, dude. I was just trying to get money from this pitch and then they bought it. So I had to work on it. Oh, you didn't want to, really? You were just trying to get money? I'm very lazy and I just want to make jerk off podcasts with Duncan, really. But it's funny, dude. Everybody's good on it. Everybody, all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show. They're like that kind of chemistry. Hmm. It's hard to make shit funny, man. Stuff like that, especially when you're working on it that long, when something really comes together, that's special. Do you miss doing Midnight Gospel? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. That was a fun show, dude. Thank you. It was so good. Thanks, man. It was so uniquely you, too. Thanks. It was like a real Duncan Trussell creation. Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and also just, it was the best. Animation's so fun, like getting to just make stuff like that. Netflix was so cool with us. But, yeah, I miss it. People ask me about it all the time, but. Well, with animation, you have so much room. Like, you don't, like, think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time. It's fine. Yeah. People shove people up their asses. You could do that. You're like, remember when the teacher, the principal of the school, had a slut off with Paris Hilton and shoved her up his ass? Yep. Like, there's no other place you could do that. I know. And, you know, with animation, there's. you know, there's something called a grid. And so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid and it can be it's really kind of like you have to stay on model yeah on model but pendleton he's such a genius he told all the animators don't worry about the grid too much because he knew that if it wasn't on model it would look more psychedelic it would create more of that so when you watch the show if it looks like weirdly psychedelic it's because the animators were not forced to adhere to the grid as much they just needed to make clancy look like clancy and they were so happy about that that the freedom we were giving them that they would put all these gifts in to the animation that we would let them do what they wanted and so suddenly like they're putting shit in we didn't expect you know there's all kinds of easter eggs through the whole thing that we didn't ask for that they just gave us it seems like you could do that show so much easier now with ai you can't do with ai like you know people say that to me like why don't you make it with ai but no way man they this was a tit mouse was better they're so good chris pronowski it's so good but they the netflix they let us do it all in-house we did not have to ship animation out so we had this just just huge group of the most talented artists working together and like you know any problems emerging or anything you're dealing with it in real time and the reason i think it's so good is not because of any one person but because this group mind form with human brains that made it what it is i just one person or two people fucking around with ai it's not going to do the same what if you had a group mind fucking around with ai then you could produce this is called a writer's room the images so much easier but you know what you're not going to get man you're not going to get like artists with like thick french accents like working on dialing in this exact look that was in pendleton's mind like working for weeks you're not going to get that you're not going to get all these moments of like the like animators going insane when we tried to do a groundhog day episode and like that struggle the human struggle produces sparks and the sparks end up in the process i'm not saying and i know what you're saying i'm not against ai i think it could be used to expedite certain like technical aspects of the production probably in betweens yeah in betweens and stuff like that but as far as the thing that happens when you get a group of people singularly focused on something and also what pendleton did which is so genius is he let everybody feel like they could participate so anyone who had an idea could tell us anyone who like came up with something could tell us no one felt like intimidated or like they were that was pendleton he's such a genius and so that made the show you know i don't and you know a lot of great shows function that way right yes that's how a good good show would function yeah yeah exactly yeah as soon as you have like one guy's like no no we're doing it my way it's over it's over it's over yeah well yeah i got lucky in that pilot because everybody like so i mean i mean it was kind of right at four people you know so but they all brought like their own they all like came in with like lines and shit that's a fun thing about a project that works yes man and when it doesn't when you get people colliding and clashing like oh god it's a hell like i don't want to do this anymore yep and it's like the getting the right minds together is such a fucking roll the dice yeah and all you know what and also people i can remember at one point like feeling stressed out because i was having a disagreement with someone creatively and i remember going to pendleton and being like i don't want to fight over this shit and he's like duncan because he made adventure time he's like this is what it's like this is the like that creative tension or the the the like the natural conflict that emerges that's doesn't have to be a bad thing that's a good thing like that could be really really good you don't want that through the whole thing when you get a narcissist or an egomaniac yeah who who doesn't give a fuck about what's funny who only cares about that their idea is right that's the problem that's the problem but those people are real oh and you run into them especially in hollywood oh my god it was a giant problem most professional stuff i ever worked on they didn't want they didn't have that kind of problem good stuff yeah good stuff but some stuff like you you work on it and you'll run into that dude a good writer's room where like you throw out an idea and you're like oh my god i don't want to do this that sucks and everyone's like that sucks and then you're like yeah it kind of did or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay and then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow yeah into the funniest thing ever yeah i don't know i just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now well it certainly won't be as fun and then when you watch it it won't be as satisfying like there's something about south park where you know that there's a group of fucking psychos that are making these things yes it's extra satisfying is that mostly the one guy i yeah yeah i mean he's like you've seen that 24 hours of south park yeah documentary i don't think i saw it you never saw it yeah it's like talking about how they're like creating an episode is it it's not called 24 hours is it six six or seven days to air is what it's called okay that's what's called so it's it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting it together you know they had a whole charlie kirk arc that they were preparing before he got murdered oh and then he got murdered they had abandoned it oh my god that sucks yeah do you know when that started tp was because i didn't follow it you know like that was not a religious thing at all hey you were saying on was it sean's podcast you were saying that erica kirk there's an erica kirk from like 1957 no 75 the governor kirk from florida the guy that's signed the contract for disney to have like a vatican there that guy his wife they were calling her madam x when they were dancing at a ball this uh eugene kirk i think his name was real like wild man there's like the smuggling coke in through florida days you know but it's not like that it's not like that it's not like that it's not like that but you were saying that there's exactly like her yeah but control control all history i saw it on instagram i didn't bother yeah but my i my buddy andy hunt from his his um that's not even a good one of it though there's 1934 so so wait a minute wait so that's not 75 go back wait a minute what year is this that's her birthday so who is this lady that's reading this out i don't know this go go on control history don't because these people lift off of both of them oh it's her birthday was 1934 okay but but um so her family was from brazil by way of germany based yeah brazil by way of germany is nazis right right and think of the boys from brazil argentina yeah remember the boys from brazil yeah yeah so 1970 oh the boys from brazil was about nazis about cloning hitler that's right and if you look at the history the brief history of it every like 10 20 years we're about to have cloning and then we stop talking about it that doesn't really look like eric kirk it does it to me well it doesn't i would go on his well i think it looks like dunk it does or doesn't doesn't look like it to me no it just looks like another white lady well her name's erica kirk and right but there's other joe rogan's out there i had to buy the website that's look at that one jesus fucking christ okay no just two different white two blonde ladies yeah i don't know i think they look i think everybody's looking for fucking patterns everywhere this is like that some of them are legit the human condition but hold on a second the the boys from brazil thing is crazy i forgot about that movie that's right we all forgot so that movie was about them trying to clone hitler and it was like a 19 book right it became the movie and 70 is when i think the movie came out when do you think they first started cloning the second they learned how to do it but when do you think that was when do you think it really was no idea so i always used to joke around on stage by the time they tell you they can clone you they can clone you they can clone you they can clone you they can clone people the person telling you is probably a clone that's a that you just summed it up that's exactly how all the tech is yeah by the time they're telling you look out for agi well that's why you guys have one i'm telling you there's already a digital god out there that's why i think when you're going through your fucking bullshit with chat gpt yeah you're like oh my god chat gpt is listening to me listen there's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already history colony goes back more than a century what oh i thought that but i want to say crazy developed from experience splitting early embryos into research showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal do you remember my bit about the second coming project no what's the second coming project second coming project was they were going to take genetic material from the shroud of turin and they were going to clone jesus is that real yeah there was it was kind of maybe parody but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they were trying to do this but it might have been bullshit so my thing was that like what dolly the sheep they had to do it a bunch of times because it didn't work the first few times it was fucked up yeah like and i was like what if they clone jesus and he comes back fucked up like do they keep him you know like what do they do do they abort him do they start again you know this whole thing is like instead of wearing a cross everybody would be wearing a hockey helmet it would all be like imitating jesus instead of like turning water into wine he would turn dog shit into cookies that is weird it was a fucked up bit it was such a fucked up bit it was it was basically a down syndrome jesus wow this lady got so mad at me at the comedy store she yelled out next subject she was in the front row oh she was christian she was a little bad i was like listen we're just exploring ideas here come on i mean it's feasible i mean don't they well that's the thing if they did do it so look let's imagine the shroud of turin is legit i don't know if it's legit let's imagine it's got some squeezings in it let's imagine there's some there's some squeezeings blood on the shroud of turin right from his wounds yeah and they can somehow or another extract genetic material which i don't think they can but if they could and they could clone jesus imagine if they literally had jesus's blood in a vial somewhere in the vatican and that's the actual blood of jesus and that's the second coming someone figures out how to clone them yeah but what if you do it in the first few don't work don't work you're not going to get rid of them you're just going to like put them in the basement of the vatican you've got down syndrome jesus in the bunker somewhere but don't they have isn't paul buried in like there's supposed to be peter is it peter is there paul never even met jesus yeah yeah the paul stuff is crazy yeah because he he pretended vision yeah you know what everybody pencils are pretty good man i mean they're all like whoever wrote those was clearly mystical like they're very mystical they're very what do you mean i mean when i read the epistles like when i think people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long long yeah what does mystical mean are you serious what does it mean i don't know mystical yeah what does that mean i mean you let's get the exact definition so we don't even mince words okay that's fine what does mystical mean i don't even want to pick up the baculum for it let's ask perplexity what mystical means because if you ask me to describe it it's like if you ask a liberal to describe fascism they panic yeah fascist what does that mean mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding especially a felt direct connection with god the divine or ultimate reality it also has a looser meaning i thought it had to do with mystery was what mystical well it is it's sort of connected right because now i could be wrong the epistles is in the letters from paul to the congregation you're talking about yeah i thought that was just like you guys are doing this wrong to the early church stop doing this do more of this i thought that that's what i remember from now man when you read when you read that stuff 20 times i read it oh look you listen i mean not because i wanted to let's say when you read terence mckenna right i would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical yes he had transcendent experiences and he articulated them in a way that if you've ever done dmt it can almost bring you back to that state right when i read the epistles i i don't know what's going on other than the person writing that is clearly what's an example of a mystical thing a mystical experience he did because he saw jesus without me you know my consciousness has been shifted but did he see that's the thing if you were going to run and you were going to explain to people why they had to listen to you what better way than say that you had a transcendent mystical experience where you talked to jesus you're just taking the guy's word for it that he met jesus on the road to damascus and that's why people everybody wants to be jesus but how come nobody says they're paul that's my goal well paul christians burned churches for a long time before he turned do you know about i'll take it that's what's incredible about the story but do you know about christian existentialism what does that mean like dostoevsky was into this like in the brothers karamazov he breaks down the road to damascus experience and he talks about what happened in that moment so like what you the angle you're taking he takes it like this hardcore way it's like what happened let's say it was jesus who appeared to him did jesus touch him and and some kind of magical energy went into paul and made him or saul and made him a better person if that's the case who gives a it's nothing it there was no free will no autonomy it's just like like putting dye in water who cares wait wait wait wait wait let me finish at that moment at that moment saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of and that's all that matters like in christian existentialism the idea is the mystical the magical all that stuff is secondary to human free will to autonomy that jesus god krishna whoever name you want to give it has no real potency to change you you have to change yourself you make the decision to change and anyone can have the road to damascus experience at any moment you can make up any story you want about it but that's what's beautiful about being human is that at any moment you can radically dramatically transform into something better did you read the story of christian existentialism? that's what happened to paul he sees jesus and gets struck blind he loses his eyesight then he goes to a christian who restores his eyesight miraculously when he tells him about what happened sounds real yeah but what i'm saying is in the story that's what happened how are you leaving that out but if you take it literally but it's not i mean like if you look at it like the blindness represents the state most people exist in which is that they're completely blind to the mystical transcendent reality that you exist in a a world where you are being watched by the divine and loved by the divine but you're blind to that and if you're blind to that then you're going to end up throwing rocks at people and because you're going to be crazy isn't that part of the problem with scripture though is these weird interpretations where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant i think that's what's beautiful about some crazy ones flying around today i think i think that's what i think i think that's what's beautiful about fucking the shuckalokes or whatever the hell is that's a historical thing that exists oh they're definitely that's jamie mutants they take babies and they convert them into ufo pilots oh but paul on the road to damascus is bullshit we got pygmies flying ufos no i didn't say that i said your explanation was stop bringing this mysticism into this house that's what all the those things are those nazis those uh the different uh nhis they're all fake and gay yeah yeah yeah i think that's the fairest assessment you're gonna get and the ai i'm not real to grosh dyson but i'll tell you this look i don't know but i do think part of what's cool about 80 of the scriptures whatever it is is you've been it's a puzzle box that you work with with your mind and then that the idea is not to get stuck in 2d space anyway the idea is that whatever it is you're reading moves you to the point of reaching out to the real world and to the transcendent to the divine reality to god and then in that reaching out a connection happens and then in that connection there could be a transformation that happens but if you getting caught up in the words is like a small part of it what did they what were they teaching you when you were in jehovah's witnesses like what what do they follow just the bi it's like a protestant i guess type of religion but it's it's all the bible's the ultimate authority right but it's all distorted right like the jehovah's witness version everybody's just not going to be able to understand it distorted which way are you speaking well you always speak of it like it was a cult right okay a cult means you have to do it that's how i define a cult you actually like he could be a catholic and say all that don't matter you're not getting kicked out if you have to do the religion or they kick you out i consider that a cult that's what i'm saying so i don't like saying called because people like oh it means like jim jones it don't mean that necessarily but they're all path working things but what they thought that's probably different than most is you couldn't join the military or vote or you had to be no part of this world which christ did was a jehovah witness thing right and the reason was was to keep us from uh let's say like somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense right uh-huh that creates problems it looks bad and it turns people off to christ when you're i mean nobody makes more satanists than uh the churches right nobody i'm talking about a satanist factory that's most of the churches in america right because satanists yeah people that are like this i hate it now right okay so if you have a bad church you think you create satanists or right well i know you do that's what alistair crowley is plymouth brethren his mother sucked she was the worst we'll go to that in a moment so the explain the jehovah's witness philosophy so they well christ you couldn't be in the military or or go uh you couldn't participate in society in voting you couldn't you couldn't do that part of it it's couldn't join the military right what about paying taxes no you had to do that jesus religious exemptions from the draft during vietnam i had yeah so you would get a minister deferment and you but you might have they might call you anyway and then you can't run to canada you have to go to jail because the law is the law you broke it so you have to go to jail just you know so jehovah's witnesses would just go to jail rather than joining the army wow so you do that and i remember yeah so and and it's an interesting thing because the guy that founded it we didn't worship him as a prophet or something um but the guy founded it charles russell and he's uh uh what year was this 1860 something i guess um but it wasn't called that at first they all come out of the same area in albany the the uh uh and then down the river they call it the psychic corridor and that's where all the spiritualism mormons the psychic core yeah that's from albany down to uh that's the dude wow look at that now they didn't make this guy he looks cool you know he had a black pyramid everybody's wife did he wives 100 look at him look at him you're saying that's a wife look at that smile go back up to that picture go back up to that past picture no the other one that you show i i think he was more of a con man considered by uh history than anything like that one that one that's a guy who i'm wearing your wife's underwear yeah he's wearing well that's the look wearing shoes that is the look he's got a stinky sweaty feet in your wife's shoes look i gotta say uh what's his name over there it looks like he's giving me the same look i mean we can project whatever we want onto these people pyramids you look at that picture he's like what no he's like what he's blaming me for someone's on the phone and they're talking about aliens he's interested that guy your wife yeah anyway his family arose he used to have a pyramid pyramid used to be his grave they moved it now there it is that's his grave oh yeah he's a big pyramid guy joe's witnesses don't subscribe to that but i think he to it because he was rosy crucian so he was the founder of the jehovah's witness and he had a pyramid for a tombstone well they're all obsessive pyramids back then but guess what um the final initiation when you go to these stupid like oto and golden dawn or any of these wizard schools is to invent a religion schools yeah the finer thing is you invent your own religion elrond humbard was in the oto and he invented a religion that was very successful nexium guy there's a video you can find a guy that was doing the acapella thing they were doing where he'd make them all sing acapella and the girl from smallville got obsessed with being this acapella show i didn't i never paid attention i didn't know hubbard was in the oto you you don't know about him and jack bart i mean it's such like a no crowley said that he thought hubbard was a kong man after he was mad at them for doing the babble all right i guess parsons got him into the oto i see what you're saying yeah and then he would say he infiltrated a group of satanists elrond hubbard he's talking about parsons group yeah he stole the guy's girlfriend and his boat basically like scientology is a reworking of the thelema they're all the same fucking thing they're all based on cabala but their mind it's like mind uh palace techniques and mnemonic devices anyway yeah so the oto it stands for ordo templi orientis right but what does a wizard do with they make a religion so america's lousy with religions that come out of albany the mormys come out of there the seventh day adventists come out of there the i mean a bunch of them speaking of banging your wife pull up a picture hold on so what do you think why do you think they're doing that why do you think they all come out of that one area do you think this is all engineered uh well engineered by these kind of societies where that's the the goal if you're in these these kind of groups by the way is control and enslavement of other people they're like the levay church by the way that that lies and says like oh they're atheists nah they're about some they're about uh an lp which is like pickup artist undertake bullshit like pimping that's what pimping is like a mind control right they're all about that wait a minute neurolinguistic programming is pimping what's a pimping is a form of an lp it's it's a subset of it i would say okay so it's mind control that's right okay mind control i know people feel like that's a weird term but i mean it's you call propaganda you call it advertising you call it marketing the bernays school of marketing well for clearly people hypnotize people yeah clearly manchurian candidates this is something that really worked that's right and and why do we need that we need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know they're doing it because if they're captured they won't say nothing right or at the very least you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily and if they get captured who gives a fuck you got them to do the task right and we saw a bunch of those fake dude i don't believe bombers sure that's a great one example ultimate example or how about all the fake uh crash dummies that went at trump the one hit the white dude i can't even count all the fake ones wait a minute the one at the white house the guy that ran through naked that they tackled that dana white was there and everybody got no he wasn't naked that's the guy with the gun yeah why was he in the picture i had no shirt on and then so put it lindsey graham on top of him in a meme i think that guy was a school teacher he's like a crazy liberal school teacher and he brought a gun try to but hold on a second if you leave alone nothing i can't help you but there are some lone nuts sure but i i don't know which ones they are um but of course there's got to be and the goal is of course to have remote triggerable nuts if you think of these social media things like your blue sky or your threads what do you think you've got people of a like don't point to me when you say threads why did you point to duncan because i sent a link to threads and he thinks i don't go i told you i won't read it i know that's why that is why i pointed anything you were right to call me out because that's why that's why i did it so you've got your group right there remember cambridge analytica they made a big deal about that okay in what way cambridge analytica when brexit happened i think sebastian come a bunch played hold that jamie for a second what they were studying is how do we get the message to the people that they're going to respond to it and get them mobilized right that's cambridge analytica do you remember that i don't remember what cambridge analytical was i've heard about it a million times when trump won and then brexit happened it was because online people were mobilized by this thing that was like seeing your likes the shit they use now to sell you tv on your phone they were using to affect that vote with brexit i mean i you remember this right if you put just put it up i guess and a refresher but so cambridge analytica is very famous there you go so facebook cambridge analytica data scandal was a major 2018 data privacy crisis involving the british political consulting firm cambridge analytical and social media giant facebook so what happened data harvesting okay the app used facebook's api to collect data not only from the users who took the quiz but also from millions of their facebook friends without explicit consent the data of up to 87 million facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to cambridge analytica cambridge analytica use uh psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns including donald trump's and ted cruz's 2016 u.s presidential campaigns which is how you know it's from something in tel aviv probably yo we've progressed since then you know how far you've heard of geofencing right sure okay what's geofencing you know uh uh they do stuff with your cell phone so a lot of the churches there's a big story that like uh i don't know if it's massad or who was is geofencing the christian churches to like there you go a location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real world geographic area using gps wi-fi cellular data or rfid when a mobile device or tagged asset is connected to a device or a device that is connected to a device or a device that is connected to a device or a device that enters leaves or dwells within this defined perimeter the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action so they're using the spy on churches here so exhausting but weren't they using it like algorithmically to like if you're in that area you're going to start seeing shit on your phone they want you that's exactly right that's exactly right so that's that's um everywhere you look you're getting fucked yeah it's so exhausting here's what i don't get it's like it's so only it seems not hard but if you have a phone that's a principal like hey i think you're not allowed to starve kids to death uh because you think it's advantageous in a war that seems reasonable you know it seems fucked up actually if you ask around and you'd never be appointed anything and in fact someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything because you're talking about palestine cambridge analytica resulted in a five billion dollar fine to meta slash facebook uh just this week they got a 25 billion dollar penalty from a new mexico state court wow wow oh that's because they were harvesting you so that's the that's the value this is recently yeah this was just this week so this is why we need the ai justice week in new mexico state court ordered meta to pay 25 billion dollars after a jury found the company misled state residents about a davis about its data privacy practices that's tied to data analytical our cambridge analytica uh look up uh gideon okay it's called gideon and um it's um so remember when they said there was a homeland security r ice office in tel aviv and and i remember on jimmy showy cover i'm like oh what are they training them to like break their arms better or something no that's um it's like only legal to have the thing there so remote neural monitoring that's the thing remember i showed you the your mind reading headphones last time creepy you don't need headphones for that your phone could your whole body could be used as a circuit your phone can i've never had my phone read my mind but many people will tell you that's happened where their thought or something that's because they just studied the patterns of your brain makes and they translate it and the ai helps so your phone can read your mind for real well yeah and interpreting neural patterns you understand so they've for a lot of people it'll be accurate probably not for everybody's my guess but i don't know all the ins and outs of it but what i do know is that gideon thing in the ai centers that's that's what they're going to be doing i think i'm going to get a flip phone dude i think it's the move i think it's i think i'm going to get a flip phone and i'm going to use my regular phone just to like get online check my email but i think it's the move put it away and say there's no reason to have that right you got nothing to hide somebody actually said that once i had a conversation with a guy that i actually kind of respected and he was talking about the nsa and the edward snowden shit and he goes if you don't have anything to hide who gives a shit what i was like what are you saying how can you really say we better fight against communism i guess israeli startup aims to revolutionize security screening with ai powered weapon scanner you gotta look up gideon that's the one that's how i got that scanner says it's radar based tech developed by a former radar engineer of iron dome can screen 25 000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums transit hubs and airports how is it screening them what is it screening them for circumcision so look it knows this guy has a gun on him it knows that guy has a knife on him how does it know that what else does it know have you been to a sporting event in like the last couple years where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore no oh well i have really yeah i went specifically in columbus at a crew stadium there's like a group of people watching everyone walk through these scanners and they're they'll stop one person maybe out of like 30 or 40 to just double check something that maybe they got like a red like they might be seeing something like this so you think as these people are walking there's some sort of technology that can scan your bag as you're walking they're probably seeing through your clothes yeah so there was a i didn't this was not as good but it's not hold on it might not work wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack well this isn't this is the show to that's for you to keep you safe but it's not it's to keep the powers that be safe from you this is that's what the real purpose is always okay settle down this video is showing just i've seen this on other things online how ai is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will. Yo, the cops. It's like with flock cameras, I guess. Regular cops, by the way. Hang on, Kurt. Let them talk. What? It's just like flock and other companies like flock. They can throw the AI systems on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just making notes, put them in databases, go back and check things over time. Someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day, they can go find you. Yeah, that creeps the fuck out of me. And that was one of the things about the flock cameras that's so crazy, when you found out how many different people had access to it. Terrible. Like how many cops were using it to like, they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date. It was like spying on their ex. Stalking. Stalking ladies. Who's fucking stalking people? And then people that they had like disagreements with, like find them. They were doing, they had access to it. Where you're like, how does like a cop just log in and have access to this stuff? It should be like very difficult to get access for the average person. You just have a fucking need to look at that. Okay, but now think of the merger of this, tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm flock monitoring everybody. And you're like in the area of my store, about to go on my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor's store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor's store? Right. Then add to that state propaganda, the geo-fencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place. The people at this place have this political ideology. What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through Meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is fucking insane? Have you seen Robert Epstein's work that he's done with Google searches, curated Google searches? Very interesting. We had him on Jimmy. Yeah, he's been on here a couple of times. So what he's shown is that they use curated Google searches to completely shift your perception of a political campaign. Wow. So like, say if you were against, like, Tallarico. Yeah. You would look up James Tallarico and you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously, him having 11-year-old drag queens on stage with him. It would do something that'd freak you out. Yeah. Or the opposite. If you Google Ken Paxton, immediately show you corruption, immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on them. So when they do that, they can shift. Like, noticeably. Like, what was the percentage? Like, 30% of people that are in the middle, on the fence. They could shift them one way or the other. So you make this with. Sorry, Joe. I'm sorry. You make this with Cambridge Analytica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. That's so dystopian. There's so many different ways to do this. The Cambridge Analytica way, the Google search way. So searches are curated, right? If you Google Donald Trump, you don't get just any story on Donald Trump. You would get the negative ones first. And then if you Google Hillary, Hillary Clinton, you'd get Secretary of State, Humanitarian, you know, Clinton Foundation, all the good stuff. And the whole idea is to shift perceptions. And amongst people that are on the fence, which is a giant percentage of the population, they're not undecided. You can shift them by, like, 30%. Like, a very high level of. And you can completely change an election one way or another that was, like, neck and neck. And that kind of tech should be illegal. Like, clearly, that should be illegal. It's propaganda. It's propaganda. But of the most insidious. It was made legal in 2015. That's the problem. That's the problem with Obama when they passed the Smith-Mundt thing. Modernization Act, yeah. Yeah. What they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us. They just wanted to bring baseball to Cuba. They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans. Oh, my God. Because we've got to protect people. Oh, my God. Duncan. It's so fucked up. It's so crazy. Like, there's so much manipulation. And then also, just think about this conversation. Like, how many times Kurt's brought something up. I'm like, what? What is that? Yeah. Like, there's too many. There's too many things you're getting fucked with. Right. Whether it's glyphosate or atrazine that's making the frogs gay. Whatever the fuck is happening, there's too much to keep track of. Right. There's too many things. Yeah. There's too many stories. There's the. What was the child. Franklin scandal. There's too many of these fucking stories where you're like, how many can I pay attention to? Right. Well, how much will you tolerate? I'm guessing they could do it to you forever. Well, who's they? The thing is, like, there's a bunch of different groups of people. They're involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propaganda. Well, there's a pyramid that goes up, of course. Since we have this CRISPR gene editing for quite some time, longer than they've told you, I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians at the top of the heap. Oh, where are we going with this? God's among us. Well, not among you, but I'm just saying, you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want. Who was the guy that said we control time and space when Trump got in? I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they fucked Lindsey Graham after he was dead. Why would you do that? What's the benefit of those bumps on this fucking tape? I mean, those guys are heroes. For fucking a great American hero? Yeah, well, for coming out bravely after his death. That's called being a good sex worker. It is. And for pleasuring one of the greatest. They could have done it while he was alive, and that would have been wrong. Yeah. Or they just kept their mouths shut forever, and we would have never known. Right. We would have never known that Lindsey Graham was dead. No one would have guessed, ever. I would have never guessed. Never would have guessed. I never would have believed it. He's an upright man. I'm still incredulous. It's propaganda. I don't believe it. I'm going to be honest. It's not real. Imagine those brave characters. They got together, all of them, and said, you know what? Let's come out, and let's say we fucked him. Yeah. People need to learn that Republicans are gay. There's a lot of them. You know how nobody would ever guess that Republicans are gay? I think there's a lot of, like. That's one of the big rumors about Washington, is there's a lot of closeted, gay Republicans. No, there's not a real one. Remember when those dudes. Real thing. How do you know? Except Pete Buttigieg, for some reason. That guy's faking it. No one knows why. Remember that he's faking it? You think he's a fake gay? I don't know. Tucker said it on Jimmy's show one time. He said he's a fake gay? He said that's the rumor on K Street. What? Tucker just says shit sometimes. Hey, I'm just going to trust the science on this one, because that's hilarious. Tucker says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people. Who created them? I don't know, but that's what he said. He said, I don't believe people made them. I'll never believe that, despite what they tell me. What? Who made them? Demons. He's talking. Yeah, he's talking. He got attacked by a demon in his sleep. I don't doubt that. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep. Really? Sure. Wow. Did he get clawed, though? What? He actually got marks on him. I know. I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I'm definitely trying to fall asleep on acid and get attacked by demons. I think Tucker is very clever, and I think he's almost like doing a very. He's doing like a little subtle fiction occasionally, like throws things in there for funsies. You think he doesn't believe in anything? A little bit. No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying at all. Because if you're a Christian, you believe in demons. I do not. No, no, no. What I'm saying is like there's some things that he says, and I'm like, I don't know if you're like. You don't think nuclear bombs are made by people? Like what? He's saying the intelligence behind it, they channeled something, the way they got our rockets from jerking off in the desert and looking at each other's eyes. What? Yeah, Jack Parsons. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. How do you not know this? They jerked off and looked in each other's eyes? I know Jack Parsons was. I'm being glib, but. Well, Jack Parsons was a Satanist, right? Like a legitimate Satanist. Yeah, that's the father of our. That and the Nazis. That's how he got robbed. He wasn't a Satanist. He wasn't? No, he was a thelemite. He was a student of Crowley. Sex cult antichrist. Satan just means an enemy of man. Oh. I thought he was like a Satanist. No. Well, I mean, people lump in. That's the problem is people like are kind of illiterate when it comes to all the different like. Says he was sex crazed. Sex? Duncan, what is sex crazed? That doesn't mean you're a Satanist. Does it mean you just like to fuck? Yeah. You think about it a lot. My mom would say Satanist is a Satanist. Yeah, like how they tell you, Mars. Yeah. Like Sidney Sweeting. Sell a sports app. Fuck yeah. What are we, sex crazed? She's some Mossad honey trap bullshit. You know that? You saw that? Well, thank you, Mossad. Like all the actresses and actors. They're all fucking puppets of somebody. I thought they were all aliens or babies or something. Why would you think that? No one said that. What are we looking at, Jamie? I'm trying to just find something good in here. Scientology is based on this cult Parsons is a part of. That's right. Oh, really? Ellen Hubbard said he infiltrated a group of Satanists. He's talking about this guy. God, this is too much. This is like what we're talking about. I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us with information. Look at his outfit. He's overwhelming us with this. You took your CIA vest off. How come? It was very hot. It was too hot. Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire. And I was like, oh, fuck it, I'm not doing it. I look over, I see Jamie looking at me, and I got spooked. So I don't want to wear the headphones? Overall. He doesn't want to wear the headphones. No, they fall off. I mean, this is one of the things that I've said about you from working with Jimmy. It's like you were normal like three, four years ago. Yeah. And then something happened to you with the amount of fucking conspiracies you were confronted with? Just news. Again. Right. I don't mean conspiracies. I don't want to say, I don't mean fake things. I mean the disaster that is current events on a daily basis. The daily trauma. And then the true reality behind these current events. Is horrific. It's horrific. And so once you see how bad it is, and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by, you have to be a fool. It's like, I don't, I don't think John, I don't think the mafia, well actually the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot. I mean, credit where credit is due. Nowhere near as vile. And the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is they can never stop. The way Roblox can never stop letting pedos on, because it'll ruin their fucking. The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply. Yeah. Otherwise they can't get you food. Right. That's what Epstein is. Do you have to poison your food or you got no food? Right. Epstein's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him, obviously. "We were with Eric Weinstein at the UT." And he goes, "Do you think he was the main guy?" I go, "No." He goes, if it all ever came out, it would end the world. And I go, oh, no. Weinstein said that? Yeah. He loves that kind of talk. Him and his brother, they both love cloak and dagger talk. You see his brother's mentor's email. Speaking of tokoloshes, Dr. Trivers. You see his fucking weirdo emails to Epstein about. What? Yeah. Who's that? Robert Trivers, the mentor of the better Weinstein. Brett Weinstein? Yeah, Brett's mentor, yeah. What do you mean? So Robert Trivers, the email about how you can manipulate a kid to give him tits and a dick. Oh, yeah. By the way, it's Weinstein, not Weinstein. Oh, whoops. I've been saying it wrong. Don't say it like Harvey. Fuck. Harvey Weinstein. Weinstein. Brett Weinstein. He's a Stein. It's better. Is it like that guy, Robert Reich? Remember Robert? It's better. Like Steven Seagal. It's not Steven Seagal. Get it? Got it. Sorry, I said it wrong. Emails revealed Epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology. What fucked up thing did Epstein not do? But there are, dude, transhumanism, the transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism. That's why it doesn't make any sense where they're like, we want to eliminate categories. But if I'm like, I feel like a woman and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into nothing? Transhumanism is the goal, not transgender. That's a little stepping stone for the transhumanist movement. But what about autogonophilia? Well, what about it? What's wrong with that? Well, that's what a lot of transgenderism is. Yeah, but Metzger's pointing out the pushing of it by oligarchs, which is what that was. There wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it. That email's about that. So the email's about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology. No, that's even grosser, that email. I think it's bigger than that. Think of like Kurzweil's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies. So Nicholas located an email which Trivers thanked Epstein for, extra money and appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Epstein responded, I want to see you, you, I guess your, peace on transgender in the bio world. Two months later, Trivers responded and said he was getting to the end of transsexuality. He said the paragraph's the one. So Trivers continued to make dehumanizing comments about trans women, including if you as a heterosexual male and have a minor desire to suck a dick, then what better organism to do it with than a transsexual? How is that dehumanizing? To call them an organism? It says she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairless like a woman, and may to some degree actually resemble one morphologically, leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting. What a nerd. Because of the organism. What better organism? That's how a scientist writes about blowing it. But also, whoever wrote this is not really getting to the heart of it. But also, this is in private emails. It says it again. It says Trivers and Epstein once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways. Is this like Trans Times Weekly that this is in? Yeah, this is a really bad. It is from them.us. Okay, what is that? Why are you putting my pronouns? Jesus Christ. Why are you sending us here? But all this dehumanizing chitter-chatter, like shut your. I know, it ruins. Calling someone a dehumanizer when an organism is not dehumanizing. It's just this bullshit talk. We are organisms. I'm not gay, they're gay. I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck. That's normal. Yeah, scientific, really. That's how kids talk in college. Scientific. Why don't we just shut down science? I'm just talking to my friend, Jeffrey Epstein. If you want to get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that. Yeah. Yeah, suck that woman dick. What's wrong with the little Bridget McCrone? That one, like, where's that lawsuit? Like, they keep saying they're going to sue Candace? Yeah. I think she's winning that one. Take a test. Yo, you know she has a dick. Take a, like, go do it live. Chromosomes. Who cares if she has a dick? That's a dick. What difference does it make? Well, because it's a different thing between a 40-year-old woman fucking a 14-year-old boy and a 40-year-old man fucking a 14-year-old boy. Especially if it's his dad secretly. What? It might be his dad. It might be his dad? McCrone's dad? Wait, what? What? Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but yeah. Who said this one? Is this a Candace one? Or is this somebody else's thoughts? Well, no. Candace was taking stuff from French reporters, and she says that when she was reporting. That it might be his own father. Yeah, dude, I don't want to get you in trouble by bringing up the good billionaires, the Rothschilds, who have not done anything wrong, and I only hate Peter Thiel. I would never talk about the Soros boy or the Rothschilds or anybody else that could be construed. Good. I make that clear. Wait, what does this have to do with McCrone's dick? Because they're related. He's like a Rothschild banking guy. Have you seen him sit down? Her? Sit down? No. The way she. She sits down like a dude. It looks like David Spade's in there. There's no way. Could be. Guys don't sit that way. Could be, but I do think the pedophilia part gets left out. Right. The pedophilia part is very different. So pedophilia for a 40-year-old woman and a 14-year-old boy. Fucked up. It's a little fucked up, but whatever. I thought that's the phobophilia. But the difference between that and a 40-year-old man. A 40-year-old man and a 14-year-old boy freaks people out. Right. Rightly so. When you hear about a school teacher that fucks some. Quarterback, like, who cares? Remember the Galifianakis joke? Yeah, yeah. You got his buddies high-fiving him to death? Yeah. Great joke. I know somebody that that happened with. Oh, I bet you do. Yeah. Is his name Kurt Metzger? Maybe. No. No. But you know what I'm saying? Like, if a teacher is having sex with her quarterback, you know, probably we're going to break the kid's heart, fuck his head up. What class is this? But he's going to be fine. But if you find out that, like, the football coach is fucking one of the 15-year-old cheerleaders, you want him in a cage. It's a different feeling, right? It's a different feeling. A 45-year-old football coach is banging a 15-year-old cheerleader, like, string him up. All right, look, I'm not. I'm sorry. What did you do? It's going to seem like I'm trying to go woke here, but I remember doing some fucking joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about the difference and whatever, edgelording. It was a long time ago. It was a stupid joke. It wasn't funny at all. But this dude comes up to me after the show, and he's like, I got. When I was a kid, when I was, like, 12 or something, I got fucked by an adult woman, and he's like, and it fucked me up, and I'm still fucked up. Like, it actually. Well, I know people that it fucked them up, because that's so very. Yeah, it fucks you up. It's too much. No, no, no. It definitely fucks you up. You can't handle it. It wrecks you. And, like, though I don't doubt, like, let me tell you, when I was 14, that would be like God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to fuck. So I get what you're. You know what I mean? Like, I was licking. Got it, man. I was licking. I would have been fucked up. I was licking hustler pages, you know? I was, like, so horny, but I think. You were a hot for teacher? Yeah, yeah, but I think it wrecks. It wrecks some people. It wrecks people. Oh, yeah, no doubt. If that happened to me, I would be messed up from it, because I was a church kid, very innocent, and so, you know, I mean, there was dudes in my school that had, like, mustaches and families working on it, but, like, I wasn't that, so. Right. I think it's very individual. It certainly is not ideal. There's a law for a reason. Yeah. Yeah. I don't give a. Now, when people go, oh, she's only 19, and that guy is however old, I don't give a shit. Like, think about that lady that fucked her student, or the young boy, and then. It was a young guy. Yeah. And then she went to jail, and then when they got him out, like, they had a family together. Yeah, and they became the leaders of France. No, I'm joking. Same story, different outcome. Yeah, it's not always. It's not ideal. It's not ideal. I mean, I would be pissed. I mean, imagine if you heard that happen to your kid, you know? Yeah. You know, it's fucked up. It's like, there's just too much power to manipulate some poor teen, you know? Of course. It's fucked up. Especially with those big, juicy tits. Oh, God, I would have loved it, though. Yeah. What's her name again? Mary-Kay LaTourneau. That's right, Mary-Kay LaTourneau. Wait, are those their kids? They made a beautiful family. It says they got separated this is like 10 years ago. Yeah, they separated. After 21 years. 21 years is a good run. Well, they eventually grew up and realized, oh, my God, she was fucking crazy. Yeah. Why was she banging me when I was 14? Yeah. Oh, fuck. Or maybe he just got too old for her. I gotta pee. Let's wrap this up. All right, let's wrap it up. Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast. You guys are great together. Thank you for having us on. Legitimately. I'm so glad you guys decided to do it. I knew it was going to be huge from the beginning. I was like, this is going to click. Thanks, Joe. Thanks, man. Good luck with your fake dick. I know. I feel, now that I know there's a real one. We'll swap and we won't tell anybody. I'll give you a real one on the way out. You can leave that one behind. I just want to feel the heft of it. That's a gift. Just because I love you. Oh, my God. Take the real back. I'm going to give you the real walrus dick and you can leave the fake one and no one will know. Jenna doesn't want me to have it. She doesn't want you to have the fake one or the real one. I just like to position her as being against me having a walrus dick in my body. All right. You're the best, Joe. And your show, one more time, tell everybody the YouTube thing. The experts on YouTube right now is pretty funny, man. I'm telling you. Mystery Boys, look at that. That's awesome. Yeah. We got to make our based hoe shop shirts. Yes, we do. Based hoe? You know, bass pro shop. Oh. This is the based hoe shop. And I have a female oenus. It looks great. Instead of a bass. It's that oenus with the fish body from the Atlantic, you know, being on there. But it's a chick. When does this come out? Tomorrow. Oh, can I plug a show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to be at Mic Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow. Is that the same as Mic Drop in San Diego? Is it the same company? I think so. I'm not positive about that, though. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. This Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? Yeah, tomorrow. Oh, dope. I'm going to be there tomorrow. There it is. Thanks, man. Detroit House of Comedy, it says. I like playing Detroit. That's weird. Detroit's a good town. You don't even know where the fuck you're going. It's mic drop comedy. I don't know why I say that. That's what it is. Mic drop comedy. Oh, okay. That's where I'm going to be. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye.