Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of Theranos, orchestrated a massive medical fraud by falsely claiming her blood-testing technology could deliver accurate results with minimal blood draws. In reality, the tests required full blood draws, and the company’s devices were entirely non-functional. Holmes used a carefully crafted public persona—dressing like a tech visionary, speaking with a deep, male-like voice, and delivering persuasive, emotionally charged speeches—to build trust and credibility. Her methods were not just deceptive but systematically designed to manipulate perception, aligning with a broader cultural narrative of "strong women in tech." The scam targeted consumers with false promises about health and wellness, leading to billions in lost trust and financial harm. The exposure of the fraud, including testimonies from whistleblowers and former employees, revealed that Holmes’s operations were built on outright fraud. Her case is emblematic of how false narratives and performative authenticity can deceive even in high-stakes, trusted industries. The video also draws broader parallels between Holmes and other fraudsters, using the concept of "bullshit worlds" where people accept irrational norms due to social conditioning. It highlights how deception thrives in environments where reality is obscured by performance, manipulation, and emotional appeal. The discussion extends to societal issues like gender norms, political extremism, and cultural obsession with appearances, illustrating how such environments enable and sustain fraud. Ultimately, the narrative critiques not just Holmes, but the systems and ideologies that allow such deception to flourish—showing how a mix of performance, social pressure, and emotional manipulation can create a world where truth is easily discarded.
[MUSIC] The Joe, Rogan, experience. [MUSIC] So, there's a new documentary that's coming out on Elizabeth Holmes. And rarely have I watched a trailer for a documentary and known within the first five seconds I'm going to watch the documentary. Watch how crazy this bitch looks. I'll just watch this. I can promise you that. I don't have anything to deceive you on, of course I'm not deceiving you. I'm engaging with you as a human being. Why would I deceive you? There's no, there's no reason for me to do that. Okay, all right, okay, good shot. [MUSIC] You're being real right now? You're always being real. [MUSIC] Yo, she's the president of the Lindsey Clancy fan club. Yeah, I mean, she is completely out of it. Bro, you could like see her like calculating the right moves to make in her face. It's crazy. I don't think she blinked. That was terrifying. [MUSIC] That was the wide shot when she was rocking her kid. Joe, that was terrifying. No, it's the baby crying at the beginning. When you realize there's a baby in there. Her eyes are so big. I know. They're so big. Like that's you see all of the people. You see the whole eyeball and the white all around it. That's kind of weird. It does look like a snake almost, just like eyeing down like what will it take to eat you? [MUSIC] Yes, exactly. Something that came out of the garden of Eden. [MUSIC] Good Lord. Good Lord. Derek, do you know who Elizabeth Holmes is? Who is this monster? Okay. [MUSIC] Thank you. So there was a company called Theranos. And Theranos was a completely scam company made by this woman and she dropped out of college to create this company. There's a blood testing company and they can test your blood by just pricking your finger. Just get a little bit of drop of blood instead of getting a big draw like they have to do it. And so they set them up at all these wall greens and it was going to be this huge thing and she used to wear a black turtle neck and talk like Steve Jobs. Not only that, she changed her voice. Okay, she changed her voice to sound more like a man. We'll get to that later. So anyway, this company, I mean, who knows how many people use their product and it didn't work at all. It literally didn't work at all. So all these people that got blood tests from it and thought, oh good, no cancer. Oh good, don't have to worry about my cholesterol. Oh good, don't have to worry about my, it's all fake. It was all fake. So she was the richest self-made woman ever. She was worth like $9 billion at one point. And then someone from the company is like a whistleblower I think it starts it off and then they start investigating and then they realize like there's nothing here. Like the whole company is completely full of shit. It never worked. It never worked at all. Like the blood testing, they used to have to get actual blood on top of the little prick. The only way they could really test you is to do it the old fashioned way and pretend that there was something wrong with the machine or something. We were going to recalibrate this but don't worry, we got this. And so they would just get regular blood like normal, like they take it out with an IV. The whole thing was a scam. Like a long time because no one wanted to believe because they had this narrative in their head. But this woman who looked like Steve Jobs, the other thing girls that went to college with her, was like, hey, that's not her voice. Oh my goodness. How she talks there in that video. Of course I'm not trying to deceive you. Now I want you to see how she talked when she was talking at these conferences. So she would give these speeches about how powerful it is to be like a strong woman and all this crazy shit, you know, like a woman in business and that kind of stuff. And she's talking like she smoked 100 cigarettes a day for a thousand years. She's talking like a dude. She's talking like someone's in transition, they're taking testosterone. Like listen to this. And a woman. No, no, no, this is some lady making fun of her voice. Go ahead. Go ahead. Actually talking. Just go to her Elizabeth. You're right there right there. I don't know which one is. You just go to any speech, any speech where she's giving. Oh, the first video should real voice versus fake, yeah, you could do that. But then Elizabeth Holmes, the convicted from reinventing the traditional laboratory infrastructure. Well, it's wonderful to be here. I started this company because those who you wrote wrote here, but it just go to one of her actual speeches so we don't get any music or commentary over it because it's crazy how fake it sounds. It's impressive how much scammers go through to like this is like real work that she put in. Yeah. Here goes Ted Talk. Here we go. She give a Ted Talk. She give a Ted Talk. She's right to protect the health and well-being of every person of those we love is a basic human right. So she would say all the right things. She dressed the right way. That voice is. Doctering the voice is wild because now go back to the documentary, please. Go back to the documentary that just go in the middle where she's talking it. Now play this. Listen to this. Right here right there, you're being real right now. No, there's no reason for me to do that. Oh, okay. It makes her skin crawl. Well, a completely different fake voice. She had a fake voice. It's so funny to me that in her Ted Talk, in her mind, she's probably like, what the fuck is this still going? Like, how is this still? I just want to point you have to know that how's the card is going to fall? 9 billion dollars? I don't think so, dude. I think that world is so full of shit in so many ways. The world of like the tech startups and the super woke lefties and tech, especially during that time period. I think it's changed quite a bit now. People are way more pragmatic and it's gotten like way away from a lot of that stuff because they realize it's actually like really bad for business, you know. But back then, as long as you have like the right dynamics, oh my God, we got a strong woman with a turtleneck, like we're going to fucking make a trillion dollars. A deep voice. Yeah, a deep voice. And she's a wizard. She's just a wizard who dropped out of college who's too smart for college and a female student. They love that. It's the story. It's just too smart for college. It's too smart. Bill Gates dropped out. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of stories like that. Like, yes, you don't need to go to college, like he's the richest man in the world. It's a really good backstory to create if you're trying to scam people in the tech world, dude. But the thing is, man, that world is full of shit in so many ways socially, like the way that communicates full of shit, like they have these agreed upon ways of discussing things and referring to things that if you deviate from the bit hall, like you know, even things that don't make sense. Like, just go to that thing that I sent you, Jamie. This is not San Francisco. There's not the tech world, but this is Portland. So in Portland, this couple went to a sports bar that is for it's like features mostly women's sports, okay? And so the guy went in with an XXXY chromosome shirt on and they kicked him out because the shirt was making people uncomfortable. Chromosomes make people uncomfortable. That's insane, bro. Who broke? I'm not a shirt, but I'm asking how to leave. Look at those people, that big lady that keeps looking over, you know, there's the bench of the bench. This is where this is where things have gotten so weird, like if there's anything that's supposed to be pro-woman sports, it's the recognition that there's a difference between men and women, which is what Title IX was all about, which gave women, like, what is Title IX specific? It was like equal funding, yeah, if you have to fund the women's sports as much as you fund the men's sports, right? Right, right. But that's a very big distinction, that there's women XXX and there's men XXY, like everybody knows this. But you can't say that anymore.
- He's a logical man-brain. - Braziness that a business, a business, is like, you've got to get out, you're making too much sense. You're fucking with the illusion. - You're literally stating a fact. There's nothing he's not saying. He's not even saying anything about the sport. - He's not saying that. - Exactly. - That's just, there's no fact there. - Just x, x, x, y is crazy offensive to them. - You have to leave. - You have to leave. - I think real life is offensive. I think the illusion, like you said Joe, I think that's the world. That illusion is what allows someone like Elizabeth Holmes to sniff through the cracks, to slip through the cracks. That's what it is. It's like, you're already in a bullshit world. Well, yeah, I think- - You know what I mean? - No, I understand what you're saying. If you're already living in that bullshit world, I mean you buy with this woman's fucking selling, which is clearly bullshit. - There's something about bullshit worlds. It's like you're in a cult. It really is the same thing. Like, why does a cult leader get to fuck everyone's wife? Why do we have to give them all the money? I don't know, the rules are the rules man. It's like people just go along with fucking weird rules. - Right. And I'll put it on this, like it is a scammer is kind of always looking for a way to find how to make the rules work for him. Or her. - Oh yeah. - So it's like, 'cause we were literally just talking about this earlier. You heard about this Dejon love guy? - Oh man. - No. - The 49ers? The fake 49ers receiver? - Oh, I did see something. - Yes. - I'm a legend. - What did he do? - So he would go on social media, oh, not social media, on these dating apps, and pretend to be a 49ers guy. - But he would have his helmet with him in his car. So he'd have, he'd be driving in a car. And you'd see his 49ers helmet. - There's a great video, Jamie, can you pull him up of him like running routes on the beach? It's incredible. - It's like 49ers helmet. So he has all these things of scam women and he got 1.3 million dollars. - Out of these women. - Whoa. - Or dating him. - They don't have Google? - No, but here's the thing, here's the thing, right? He got real, he made enough fake profile. Like he's just out here running routes on the beach. - Get him outside the stadium, that's him outside the stadium. - He got girls to give him money? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Why did they give him money? - So the way he would work is that he would be like, hey, I have all these investments. So I have a house here, a thing here, another thing here. Give your money to me and I'll invest it for you. And it'll come back more for you, right? And he got really good at was he put enough fake social media pages up online that when you Googled him, the initial Google AI would say, "Day Jean Love is a wide receiver for the 49ers." And so-- - Oh my god. - And I think of myself how many times I often just take the first Google thing. So a lot of these women were just like, "Yeah, why would Google lie to me about this?" - Oh. - He's got a helmet, I'm looking at a video, he's got a helmet. I'm gonna get a helmet. (laughing) - It's so crazy. - He's got a helmet, a few websites. - Yeah, yeah, that's all. - And girls are like, take my money. - Yeah. - He had a LinkedIn profile as a wide receiver. - Some dudes are really good at smooth talking. Have you ever had a guy try to get you in a scam? - Yes. - Yeah, I think so. - I had a guy who was a boxing coach who tried to get me in an actual pyramid scheme. Like, he was explaining to me. And as he was explaining to me, I go, that's a pyramid scheme. He was explaining, well, what happens is the more people you get to join up to this, they put in money, the more money you get out. And I was like, dude, do you know what that is? Do you understand what that is? I go, you're describing a scam. Like, you're trying to get me to give you money and you're describing a scam. - It's always the same scam. It's always the same. People fall for it. You gotta go get more money from other people. It's crazy. They always do the same thing. Telling you, my friend, he bought a new car. It's a fucking beautiful new car. You know, I mean, he put in like 20 grand and he got $85,000 within a year. - Doing nothing, you don't do nothing. And I go, do you understand how crazy this offer is? Like, you're actually telling me, I should join a pyramid scheme. Like, do you know what a pyramid scheme is? I had explained to him a pyramid scheme. I go, this is like an old scam. Like, you're telling me about an old scam. And you think I should join this old scam. Are you getting money out? Like, if you put money in, like, how is this work? As long as you get out in time, you can get some money out of that. - Right, or you start the thing. - Yeah, you start the thing. Or you get enough suckers, which is what he was trying to do. Get enough suckers. And what better place than at a place where dudes get hit in the head all day? - Oh, yeah. Yeah. - He was catching you after sparring, too. After sparring, you walk out there. It was like, that was when I first moved to LA in like '94. This guy was like, I mean, he had me in the parking lot. I got to tell you about this offer. This is amazing. And like, he's laying it all out to me. I was like, oh, I guess I gotta go to a new gym. Can't fucking believe this shit. - Those guys always talk fast. It's like a big shit. - It was a big shit at all. That's really humiliating about it. Like, how dare you think that this would work on me? Do you think I'm that fucking stupid? - And this is really embarrassing. - You just gotta suck her in the right person. There is, I know, but I was like, couldn't believe that he thought I was that dumb. When I started laying out what a pyramid scheme is, how they work and how often, you know, you know, this doesn't work. Like, you're gonna, either you're gonna go to jail or something's gonna happen here. - How the fuck is the Elizabeth Holmes lady out of jail? - I think she's in now. - No, so this was all before she won. - Okay, okay, I'm like this. - That document, she's like, she has something like 34 days before she's going to jail and she let Nathan Fielder have like full access. - First of all, I would be like, bro, why are you so close to me? - This is crazy. - You and I gonna have a conversation a little bit further with this. You don't have to like literally by like leaning in like you're telling me a secret. - What Nathan Fielder is our master of though, is getting people going to that place where like, oh, I think that's their true them. - Yeah. - He's just not saying no to you. He has no limits. He also let you do something very wise right there, which is when someone says something, you say nothing back. You give them nothing. And 'cause their whole game is ping pong, right? And if you don't, and then they're just holding the paddle, hi, it's like, it look fucking crazy. (laughing) - You get to see who they really are. You can pretend who you're different. - Oh yeah, I would never just see anyone. Why would I? What's the point? I'm going to jail anyway. I'll tell you what happened. - 'Cause that's what she wanted. She wanted him to say something back, so she could, so she could, - So she stood there with the paddle. - Look at stupid as fuck. - Yeah, there is something, there's this guy, you know this guy named Vista, Victor Lustig. He was a guy who was a prolific scammer, sold the Eiffel Tower, almost sold it twice. But he wrote the 10 commandments of scamming. And one of them is like, you have to get, you say nothing, you just listen, and you just get them talking. So the fact that she's not getting anything means like, you can see the sort of wall start to crumble around her being like, well fuck, you gotta, this is how this works for me. - Look, there's no way she wasn't scamming people. Like there's a bunch of people in the organization that became whistleblowers. Her ex-boyfriend went away as well. Like he got busted and they were probably riding on each other. I don't know what happened. We'd have been her next boyfriend. I should probably shouldn't say that. It's probably legally, get me in a love trouble. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her and her ex-boyfriend did they testify against each other? How'd that work? The dude had a Lamborghini, he was ballin'. - Oh, he was. - Ballin', nine billion. - Nine billion. - Nine billion, son. - Come on, let's go. - Oh, they were livin'. It might've, from there, and it might be just worth it to experience that level of wealth, even for a second. - No, no, no, no. - She's gone away for 10 years. She's doing 10 years in the Pokey. And even when she gets out, her life is in danger. She's scammed like really big people. - Oh, that's good point. - Hundreds of millions of dollars. - That's a good point. Like venture capitalist and people who can do something about it. - People who would do something about it. - Two. - People who know people who will do something about it. Like you stole money from these people. And not just the little. You know, like, one of the people gave her $150 million. Yeah. Sonny Balwani, former software entrepreneur who met Holmes in 2002 and Holmes was 18. He was roughly 19 years older. He later became an informal advisor and investor in Thorenaus and then formally joined the company in 2009 as his president and chief operating officer. He left in 2016 around the end of their relationship. He got more time in jail. Did he? Yep, looks like it. 12 years, 11 months. Yeah. She got 11 years, three months. I wonder why. - We have 12. - Well, look, they were both guilty. Okay. Holmes alleged that Balwani psychologically, physically and sexually abused her. Of course. - Oh, yeah. - During her relationship, Balwani denied these allegations through his legal team. Those allegations are part of Holmes' defense context. Not a finding that Balwani was criminally convicted of abuse. So they were just trying to blame his behavior on her scamming people out of billions of dollars. - Yeah, he's getting patchy at Clancy right now. - That's what they do. (laughing) - And there are no skill outs. Holmes began a relationship with hotel air, Billy Evans, they became engaged and have two children. Imagine like having children with a lady you know is going to the Pokey family years. You're gonna have to take care of these kids or mommy's in a cage right now. 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Someone who's a scam or versus someone who's a killer or someone who's a viewser. That look at her eyes, Jo, scared the fuck out of me. Yeah, it's not good. And there's the other thing that the elephant in the room is what kind of medication is she on? Federal prison camp, Brian in Texas and Galene Maxwell. Oh, they're both in the same place. Yeah, I knew that. Let's find out. What kind of medication Elizabeth Holmes is on? Yeah. See if she was on any of the fun stuff. Any of the fun stuff that makes you happy and dance through a fucking field of wheat, run their hands through a field of wheat like they're fucking gladier, like they're Maxibus and gladier. Remember that scene? This family also got murdered. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all. They're always in those movie dream sequences. They're always in some kind of field. Yeah. It makes you think that love, like, fields are involved and love way more than they are. It says, I'm not aware of any reliable public record listing Elizabeth Holmes personal medications. It would be inappropriate. Oh, perplexity. You're too ethical. Speculate on someone's private health treatment. Too late. We already have. Yeah. Yeah. I know a lot of people that are on those fucking things, man. I mean, I think a lot of people that go to a shrink and they go, I use some depressed, I'm not feeling good. It's, if they're inclined to prescribe, you're inclined to take, it's a doctor. They know what they're doing. Next thing, you know, you're cookie. Yeah. And I think we've been so conditioned to think that a pill can make you happy, that people are like, yeah, let's let me get on it. And for some people, man, it's doing this weird thing where it doesn't just kill their sexual feeling, like they know a lot of orgasm, but they don't have any sexual desire anymore. Like ever. They're like killed. There's like a term for this SSRI problem with sex that some people get. Like this lady was given a speech where she was describing what happened to her when she was young. You know, like she, I think she was in her 20s when she started taking it and it's just totally numb. Like there's nothing going on. No orgasms, no feeling, no desire. Do you think that's an accidental side effect or an intentional side effect? No, it's an accidental side effect. It doesn't happen to everybody. Why do you think they're trying to numb us? My brain went man, they're trying to do this. Are they trying to neuter us? What are they trying to do? We've, you know, experienced so much with stuff like this through our military and our government to begin with. Here's the thing. This is one thing that is possible. If you were going to do something like that, the way you, if you wanted people to be much more invested in like cultural and political issues, you eliminate any possibility of a sex life, no sex life. So now all of their identity is all involved in whatever they're doing. Whether it's being a right wing, patriot lady, or whether it's being a left wing, whatever. Like you're gonna go all in on that. You're not gonna have children. You don't have sex. Like you're not even interested in it. So what are you interested in? You have to have a team, you have to have a thing. You watch college football, like what do you watch? Yeah. You know, you watch, get into politics and you start telling people what to do. Who out of the people that we know are the most scolding of all political people. It's always people with no kids that are in their fifties, right? And a lot of it, a lot of it is women. A lot of it, no kids, women in their fifties become, not just like have opinions about politics, not just have opinions and positions that they take, but scolding, like the world is their children. Yeah, I thought like, you missed out. You missed out on having a child. Another world is your child. You know what's best for them. You know what best best for the whole world. Oh my God. I think that's the coolest part about Derek sometimes, I like to just have to explain to him something what's going on because he's like just, he has a little baby. And he's like, that's his whole life. And that's what it's nice. But that's scary, what you just said. Like those women who don't have kids, it's like, oh, the world, it's like, oh, that's not, by the way, be really clear. It is not all women who don't have kids. There's a lot of women who don't have kids that are awesome. And they don't need to have kids. Like you could do whatever you want in this life. It's one of the more beautiful things about being a person in America. You have the complete freedom to live your life as you choose. You don't have to have children. But there is something about the people that didn't have children that are scolding. Yes. That's weird because they weren't doing that when they were in their 20s. There's something about when they get past the reproductive age, that they get very invested in politics. It's like you don't even have a world of-- you don't have children. So you don't have a world to make better for the children. And you got maybe 20 years left. 20 years ago was 2006. That shit was real recent. So you got 20 years left. You'll be 77, 78 years old. And you'll probably be basically dead unless you do something radical to take care of your health. So why are you so invested in all the other people's problems of the world when your life is a fucking mess? Because you've infantilized the world. You've turned the culture into your children. And that's why they're scolding. That's the scolding aspect that you get, particularly from people that don't know. And men too, from men that don't have children, they get older. There's a scolding political aspect of it. They never had children. Instead of just having opinions on things and being able to debate your opinions, why you think that way. There's a scolding of people who disagree. Why don't you think like I think? Yes. It's also, you're intimidating people trying to get them to be afraid of disagreeing with you. There's part of that too. There's part of the very aggressive insults about people that disagree with you. Part of what you're doing is you're trying to force people to self-sensor. You're forcing people to go along with your perspective. Instead of just like effectively arguing your perspective, what you're doing is you're attacking the people who don't agree with your perspective. Which I mean, sometimes it's great 'cause it's funny. You know, if you could do it funny, if you're good at it, if you're genuinely funny. But there's a weird fucking meanheartedness to it where you other people that disagree with you instead of like saying things in a way that would perhaps convince them to listen to you a little bit, like maybe you have a point. Maybe they have a point. Yeah, there's nothing that's gonna make people turn off more than like calling them a Nazi. Which has been a big thing. It's like if they disagree with me, they're a Nazi. Which ironically is a pretty Nazi ideology in it if itself. It is. Yeah, ironically that's how they thought. (all laughing) But I don't mean it. I'm so serious. If you're a bad person, if you disagree, you're a bad person. You're right, the scolding, like you don't get to just disagree with anyone. They're also not engaging with people. No, it's not a conversation. It's not a conversation. And if they did have a conversation on it, there's like, there's other perspectives, man. There's other perspectives. And this perspective that one side is good and one side is bad in this country is crazy. It's so dumb. It's such a bad way to approach the reality of our current situation. 'Cause the reality of our current situation is complicated and it has been definitely influenced by government organizations and poisoned in a way where they benefit from us being at each other's throats. So if you really like government overreach, keep doing that shit. If you really want people that are in some fucking Pentagon building, deciding what goes on in our society. Keep behaving that way. You're giving these people, that's what the, if you were the government, it's a fucking common phrase. Divide and conquer. Divide and conquer is the most common strategy. Because if you can get the people fighting with each other, then you just fucking storm in and take over. You don't even have the storm in. They'll let you take. This will give you pieces. Well, that's what's happening. Yeah, in terms of like, this will fuck over the other side. So just give the government more and more control. They're kicking people out of bars for X, X, X Y shirts. We're, this is getting crazy. It's crazy. We're fighting over if a lady killed her kids and there's a fight over it, bro. So it's like, what's going on? I want to know how those women knew to wear pink. How did they decide? How did they get together? How much USAID money was involved? Like, what happened when I talk about divide and conquer? Like, that's a great divide and conquer. Organize hundreds of women who are out of their fucking minds to wear pink shirts and stand outside of a courthouse were a woman who, one at a time, strangled her kids with an exercise cable. They brought their kids, they're women out there holding their kids up. Like a son. Like, Michael Jackson. This is a sideop. This is a sideop. It's a sideop. If it's not a sideop, I'm disappointed in our government. [LAUGHTER] It's got to be a sideop. It has to be a sideop. Oh, man. Lindsay Clancy thing has to be a sideop. And by sideop, understand this. It doesn't mean that those people involved all know it's bullshit. It means that you have targeted some of the dumbest, craziest bitches alive and you have organized them in some way and got them to that point. Because the idea that they did it all by themselves without anybody from the outside saying, you know it would be great. (laughing) - Yeah, you know.
I don't really do it. Yeah, you're right. Somebody did organize it. And it's even more terrifying to me if that's not true. If it's an actual organic, that means the government. I can ask for its organization, they can step back 'cause we're doing the work for them. Like, we're so out of our fucking minds that we're doing the work for them. Well, yeah, and we've started doing that for sure, 'cause now I've seen like women who I know be like, come out of super pro-clancy, and it's like, whoa, whoa. That's what scared me, is that they're, 'cause you think they're not real women, Joe, and there's women in my life where I'm like, whoa, those women that's really happening. Those women that's children? That's so crazy. It's scary, that's so scary. I also want to see a Venn diagram of all these white ladies who like, who like spent the last like, since COVID or whatever, preaching about white privilege. And then how many of them are still four Lindsey Clancy? 'Cause to me, I look at that, it's like, well, this is the most white privilege thing I've ever seen in my fucking life. Right. She birded three of those kids and you're like, she should, a lot of people think she should just get away with it. The crazy thing is, could you imagine any men standing outside of the courtroom of a man who strangled his three sons, four or three daughters or whatever, just imagine, men who want, kill that man. Kill that man. Already, I'm like, that man's got to go. That man's got to get, especially you. You have a child now, you understand the feeling. That man cannot be a part of the thing. My brewer said this to me once, and I'll never forget it. He goes, once I had kids, I really understood murder. Cool. I was like, ooh. You know, as a person who also has kids, I'm like, right? Yeah. So I didn't know how rage, one night in our apartment, somebody yelled, our baby was crossing three of them, and I thought, you know, we got a balcony. So the baby was crying on the balcony. I was going outside, I tried to do anything at this point, just to calm her down, and I didn't know where it came from, but I was like, shut that fucking baby up. Oh my God. I didn't know I could get that man. Oh my God. I didn't know I was ready to kill a guy. I was ready to go door to door to find a guy to be like, bro, you out of your fucking mind, like, so I get what you're saying. And I told my wife, like, you got to get the baby out of my hands. I was like, I'm about to go kill it. I don't know what's going on. People who don't have babies have such a different feeling than when babies are crying, like, if I would be on a plane and a baby would be crying when I was young, I'd be like, oh no, I'm never going to sleep. This sucks, fucking baby, shut that baby up. I wouldn't obviously say it, but, you know, I'd be like, oh my God, this baby's annoying. Now, if I'm on a plane and a baby's crying, I'm like, oh, what's up, sweetie? What happened? It's okay, we're just like, do your nose hurt? Do your ears hurt because, like, their ears get stopped up? Yeah. Well, you guys have also been the kid guy with the baby on the plane and you truly understand what that's like. It's not like you want the baby to cry. No. So, you're right, it's such a different feeling. But, man, you're, I'd never experienced, that was the first time I've experienced, like, real, I was like, oh, wow, I'm like, this is rage. I've never felt, I'm a pretty calm guy, I'm pretty chill. But that was like, oh, this is actual rage. I'm like, I feel out of control angry right now. Yeah, it's rough. So, one of the things that's, where it's really good for people to have children, because you have children, then you have a level of empathy. It's just different. You have a level of feeling. It's just different. It just changes you as a person. Like, you're a different person after you have a kid. If you're a good person, you're paying attention. If you're nice. If you're kind, if you, you know, you understand love. You're like, God, I can't believe I love someone so much. Yeah. It's like it's a different feeling. It's a fucking completely different feeling. And it changes your, you know, a lack of a better term. It changes your heart. It changes like who you are as a person. Yeah, how soft. Yeah, I realize that could be. Or how hard you could be if like some shit went down and someone was trying to hurt your little kid. Yeah. It's a weird feeling, man. It's like you have a mama bear feeling and women get it, where they can pick cars up off a fucking kids. That's why this Lindsey Clancy thing is so disturbing, is because I just don't understand what anybody, I've tried so hard to look at it from perspective of someone defending her. And I don't get it. Like what is the key argument that she was asking for help? I heard that one. Yeah. And I heard that she was on a bunch of different medications. But then I also heard that refuted. Did I send you that text? Did I send you a tweet about someone on Twitter who is like explaining how many misconceptions there are about how many medications there are. And then they went over all the Google searches that she made about how to kill people. The Google searches and yeah. Ooh, and then the time it took time. The time it took time. The sending of the husband out. That's where all those things are like, that's just so calculated. It's not a-- It's so premeditated. Premeditated, this isn't so crazy. On your phone, like online, there is so much like don't have kids, anti-kids messaging that's coming your way constantly. And it's like as someone, I'm single and someone who's in the apps. So many of like they're like never want children, don't want kids trying to live that day, right? Why are you in the apps? You must not need the latest app for shows. You're a funny dude, man. You're funny. You know what's so funny? I don't like after-- You don't like meeting fans? No, I don't like meeting fans, fans. Yeah, after mother ship two, I'm hanging up. I'm hanging with the boys usually. It's like, if I'm meeting girls after shows, it's usually on the road. It's not so much at mother ship. The mother ship is built for comedians. It's not-- you'd have to go out of your way to go hit on women. They make like the comedy story. You step out in the ship. There's no page. Right, that's right. There's no page. There's no page. Which is probably really good for our lawsuits. Yes. Yeah, that's it. In this day and age, but yeah. When I worked at the store, most of the numbers I'd get would be from the patio. You know, we almost put a bar in the roof. Ooh, that would have been-- Yeah, that would have been crazy. We were going to build out the roof. And we're going to-- like, we had this whole setup. But I had a vision of some drunk, open micer going over the top of the wall. Because the wall was only like four feet high. And I was like, some dumb motherfuckers going to try to sit up there. And they're going to fucking splatter their brains. Nope. And I was like, immediately, uh-uh. We're not doing this. It just wasn't set-- it just like wasn't set up right. If we wanted to do it, I would want like a fucking suicide net around the outside of it. Like I've seen these employees. I've been in Mitsy's disease. People fucking plastered. And like, OK, thank God for fucking Ubers. Because these guys are fucking hammered. And sometimes I forget, you know, we'll build like the early days of the comic store. If there was a rooftop bar, we'd have so many dead people. Everybody. So many people were like, this drunk, where they couldn't stand. Just wasted off like a terrible set, too. Oh, that's-- Oh, yeah, I'm wasting that. Mushroom's in me, and now I'm on the roof. Yeah. But it was a guy who jumped off the roof next door, right, during the strike. That was the big-- that was the big Lou Beckon. That's the big story. Yeah, apparently he wasn't even very good. He wasn't, apparently. His diary was crazy. It was all about how he looked. He was asking his parents for money, so he could be famous comedian. And I remember this thing, it was all about like, so I can get my teeth done, and my face changed, and the plastic surgery on my chin. And it was like nothing about comedy. And it was like, oh, so this guy was a crazy person. He said nothing to do with comedy. Yeah, I know a guy went a little nutty that way. He got a bunch of stuff. He got peck and plants. He got a bunch of stuff done. It's like all the fillers and stuff age super poorly, too. Well, this was a long time ago, but this guy was like, this was in the sitcom era. And this guy was obsessed with getting a sitcom. Good comic, too. I don't want to say his name. He's not with us anymore. But it was weird watching him, like, weird stuff. Like, peck and plants are crazy. Yeah, man, for a man, what the-- Do pushups, brother? That's natural peck and plant. Just natural peck and plant. Really weird. That's why I had to get plastic shoved into your breasts. Your tits? Like a fucking lady? Nuts. Nuts. And it just makes him poke out a little more. Well, yeah. It is a surgery, son. It is, I like to say, with me choosing to have this face. But people do put way too much-- like, it'll be interesting watching an artist put way too much on their looks. And it's like, well, the art first looks later. Like, the look does matter in some way. But it's not the thing, though, man. You have to understand that era was-- the motivations were very different. There was two giant motivations. There was, get a late night talk show. Hopefully, it's a night show, because then you're the king. Because there can only be one king. It was Johnny Carson. And then, it was whoever took Johnny Carson's place. And then, it was Letterman, was, like, the cool guy. He was, like, the cool late night guy. He was, like, if you were, like, smarter, you went to college, you watched Letterman. And if you were, like, really appreciated comedy, you watched Letterman, because you got, like, some of the best comics on. He had "Canison on," "Canison debut." It was a famous one. But then, there was a sitcom. And the sitcom was "The Giant Carrot," because the sitcom could make you Jerry Seinfeld rich. Jerry Seinfeld, I don't know what he's worth. I don't want to say what he's worth. It's probably worth close to a billion hours. Like, that syndication money, you know, like Kevin James. You get that syndication money. That's a different animal, man. That's you own the show. And you get that syndication money. That's a different animal. It's only for the people that own the show. Like, I never got that kind of money from News Radio. But if you owned it, you got Boku De Nero. Because they played that shit on all these different local channels all across the country. So that shit was on it, five o'clock in Milwaukee, and seven o'clock in San Francisco, and eight o'clock in Chicago, it was everywhere. So Seinfeld was just raking it in. So everybody had that dream. That was the big dream. And that dream, you know, well, you know, it's not the best looking guy, like, fuck! You go home, you're like, what do I got to do? I'm going to get a hair piece. I'm going to get my eyes done. I'm going to get my fucking, I'm going to get this. I'm going to get contacts. I'm going to get Leasek. I'm going to get my teeth. I'm going to get my fucking ass. Yeah, because you hear way less of that nowadays. But bad. It seems like if you were trying to be on TV, you'd be your whole family. I got to get my teeth. I got to get my nose. That's why I got hair transplant. I was panicking. I was panicking. Because I was on a sitcom. My hair falling out. I'm like, oh no. And I was using minoxidone. Minoxidone was keeping it. But I was like, I was on the path. Like 100%. I was on the path to being a baldie. I knew it. I knew it. I was like, fuck! Johnny! How old were you? 27. Oh, that's-- yeah, I was 19.
You just have to sort of accept it at 19. - You just was falling out at 19? - I was falling out at 19. I was getting a hairline joke in college. - Well mine was falling out earlier, but by that age, it was becoming a problem. Like when I was like 27, 20, I was like, "Ooh, this is gonna be a problem." (all laughing) But it's like that carrot was dangled over people's heads, wasn't the art back then. It's such a different world now with Netflix. With Netflix and YouTube, it's such a different world. - And Instagram, it's the podcast. - Yeah, it's a clip game now. That's what the game has become. - Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. But it's still like what's most important is what you say, like the quality of the stuff that you do. And sometimes the quantity can overwhelm the quality where like water's it down. Like you put out so many clips, so many people maybe don't wanna see you now. Like what you're doing should be, whatever you put out should be groovy. It should be something you really dig, you know? It's like you gotta play this pros and cons game. This pros of having yourself out there constantly all the time. But it's also like, you look a little needy. - Yeah. - Bro, you post eight clips in a day, that's kinda crazy. - And they're all trying to catch the algorithm. - Yeah. - You're posting something where you're like, "Oh, you made some cool thing that you really like." Like you said, this is cool. Not a lot of it's not that, a lot of it's like, "What can I get into this algorithm that will get it going?" - When people delete a post and then repost it again, like a week later? - Oh yeah. Well there's all these sort of games you can do now. - There's a game, it's a game now. - It's a game now, dude. - It used to be like, when Instagram first came out, the people who saw followed you got to see your stuff. But now you post something and it doesn't get any likes. You could be pretty confident that no one saw it and you can just keep going until maybe it hits. - It's so weird. - 'Cause that's the game and it's like, the more you're in the algorithm, the more you're sort of selling tickets. If you're one of these sort of new comics coming up. - I mean, I guess that's just, I'm just taking it from my perspective. If you're just looking in terms of marketing yourself, it's probably a good strategy. But I think ultimately, the one thing that's the most important is just concentrate on your shit. Just do whatever it is you're trying to do. Whether it's podcasting or whether it's stand up or whatever it is, just concentrate on making that really good. Do your best, that's it. And all the other stuff is like, you don't have to think about all the other stuff anymore. Where it used to be the other stuff, like getting someone to cast you on a sitcom was the number one thing that you were thinking of. That's why all these guys got their teeth done, and they're fucking pecking plants and all that crazy shit. (laughs) - Yeah, there is. - It's crazy. - Well, I like that this work. 'Cause it's like, maybe, like, "Stop roast exists and Matt Rife exists." - Yeah. - Like I like that. - You know, people hate on Matt Rife, but he's a nice guy and he doesn't do anything bad to anybody. It's like hating on Taylor Swift. Like, why would you hate on her? Obviously, people love her. - Well, people, people-- - Also, you work that hard to be Taylor Swift. You work like, you work that hard to be Matt Rife. That's it, 'cause you can say, "Oh, you wanna, oh, it's 'cause how he looks." But it's hard to look like that. Not to say that, first of all, his comedy is incredible. But I don't like that people go, "Oh, it's just 'cause how he looks." It's like, "Hey, you look like that." This motherfucker works out every day. This motherfucker, you don't just look like that. - There's that. - That's a choice. - But it's also-- - I respect that. - He's a really good at crowd work. - He's incredible. He's a great comic dude. - Yeah. - Two things are happening. - And he's a super nice guy. - And he's the man. Yeah, if you hang out with him, he's in people who just hate on crowd work comics. And I'm not a crowd work guy at all. - Yeah, the elephant in the rooms, they hate on a beautiful handsome man. - Yeah. - That's what's going on over there. - Who does work out videos with his shirt off? - That's what's going on. - Homeboy shredded, and he's beautiful. - He looks like a Marvel character. - And he's just, he's swat and pussy off of him. - He's swat, he's swat, get away. He's swat, he's so hot. - That's what they're hating on. - But it's so what? It's so what? This one is fault. What do you care? It's so dumb, these fucking intercomedian. - Also, minimize their so stupid. Unless there's something significant, like someone stealing your material or something else. - But it's never that anymore, Joe. Now it's just everybody's just hating on anybody. - Everyone just hates it. - It's never that. It's everything real, like you said. - And it's like on how they do comedy. Like, oh, you're a crowd work guy. It's like, who cares? You can do this. You can have puppets. Are you making people laugh? That's all that really matters. Are people entertained by you? Then get the duck and trussles puppets like the funniest thing of all time. - Yeah, I hope it was the greatest bit I've ever seen. - There's no rules to this. But everyone does that now where it's like, I don't like the way this guy does comedy. Or the way she does comedy. - I used to feel this way about character top. Like, everybody used to attack character top. And I was always like, I don't understand it. Like, why? People are laughing. It's a different kind of comedy, but it's clever. - Yeah. - It's funny. Like, it's silly, funny comedy. I don't get it. Like, why are you mad? Like, this idea that it's easy to do? - Okay, is it? Have you done that? - Have you done it? That's what I was talking about. - I was trying on here. And he was a fucking super sensitive guy, man. And I remember when I had him on the podcast, like we talked about, and he was like, dude, that helped me so much. He goes, I was just like, I always thought I was like, every comic hated me. And I was outcast, but like, you have me on. And being nice to me, it was like, so cool. And I was like, I don't understand why anybody wouldn't be nice to you. Like, what is the problem? What is the problem? - We are, the comedians are a snobby group of people. And they sort of let it take over sometimes. - You got to do it the right way. - Well, you're an internet kind of ramped it up, like, 'cause now you can make clips about each other. And now you can do it. - Always people doing better than you. - Yeah. - No one should only do it worse than them. - Well, you got to swing up to get into the algorithm. - Yeah. - But it's like, I got to swing a shank, and I got to swing it the whole day. - It's such a trap. - It's such a trap. And it's so bad for you. It's bad for you as a person. Like, I've said this many times, but the thing that, like, went down with me and Mancilla, even though I think it was important, to, like, to recognize that someone was actually just, like, profiting off of other people's hard work, I wouldn't do it again. 'Cause it, like, the negativity was fucking awful. It was terrible. - Yeah. - From his fans, from people, even people attacking him, it was, like, all of it was so gross. It's so overwhelming. That it's just, like, that's not a way to live your life. Like, living your life attacking people and going after things like that. It's just not a way to live your life. - Also, it always, if you're the guy who, like, is constantly attacking people, it'll always turn back on you. - Always, always. It's like, I tell him all the time, it's like a French Revolution, Robes Pierre. You become the guy leading the beheadings, people will be like, "We should probably behead this guy." - And the chances are you're a piece of shit. - Well, yeah. - You gotta be fucked up, if you're constantly going after people and looking for excuses. And again, it's, oh, it's that expression that I love, that criticism is the tragic result of unmet needs. Such a great fucking, it's not always accurate. It's legitimately, like, the Elizabeth Holmes thing. It knows pretty legitimate. Fucking con people at a billion dollars. You know, this is like Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, you can probably criticize that guy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Not a criticism at all. - You don't have anything to do with unmet needs. Hey, maybe we should have gone to a war with Iran. Hey, I think that's unmet needs. - Yeah, I think that's the reason we do that. - I don't want to fucking die. (laughing) Maybe you shouldn't kill the leader of a country during fucking Ramadan, hey. (laughing) - Unless, unless you want a little more terrorism. - Right. - Unless you would like a little more chaos in the world so you could ramp up military because you need more because it's more threat. So now you got a bigger budget. - Yeah, yeah, and you have to create the threat. - Oh, boy. - Yeah, you have to create the threat. - Oh, boy, you got an armum. You got to accidentally fund them. Whoopsies didn't know they got six billion. (laughing) - Yeah, it's so hard to know what is real and what is not. And how much of our life has been orchestrated. 'Cause Billy Corgan was on this podcast recently and he was talking about the shift that happened between rock music and then when rap took over. And he goes, and it seemed orchestrated. He goes, like, there's some specific things that happened. And one of them was, they stopped promoting rock, but two, they started allowing things on MTV that they never allowed before. And one of them was showing guns. You could show guns on MTV. So now you're not just rap, but hardcore gangster rap where dudes are talking about killing people and they're flashing guns on television. And it's like, it's directly correlated with the crack epidemic. Okay, so you have the crack epidemic in this country. And then you have hardcore gangster rap and you have private prisons all together. - Ooh, so broken. - What the fuck, man? - Ooh, that is terrifying. - And it is not to say that some of my favorite music came out of that era. Look, I'm a giant cool G rap fan. And you listen to cool G rap shit. Like some of his shit is just all about fucking killing people. - Right. - Like he's got this one song about fuck your karate. I'll fucking shoot you, bitch. Like it's like, it's called Go For Your Guns. It's like literally a song about guns. I don't even know if he had, did he have a music video? See if cool G rap had a music video for Go For Your Guns. - But it's crazy from that to now drill music or there's like rappers who literally rap about the-- - The people that killed. - The people that actually killed. And you go to prison for it. Like so, like how far we've come. - Well, Mike Benz, who is one of the big guys that exposed US aid and all the crazy government NGO money and what it was really going for. And that the word aid is not like aid. Like, oh, it's given them food and water and shelters. No, it's agency for international development and really specialized in regime change. And one of the things that they did was they would fund rebel groups. And they would fund cultural revolutions and they would fund rap music, cultural revolutionary rap music in certain countries to try to get people to become revolutionaries to overthrow the government. They would like get people excited about doing that. And they would engineer societies with manipulation by funding certain protests and funding certain groups and giving them a tremendous amount of resources to organize. Well, you could do that in America, right? - Yeah.
and if you wanted to make a lot of money with the private pros, - With the private pros. - You promote, you promote. - Joe, you fuck criminal activity. - The private prison part is like, "Oh, I never put that together." - I never put that together either. - Yeah. - Just like, "Oh, that actually might be a part of me." - No, it might. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're encouraging people to be criminals. - Yeah. - And you're glorifying it. - You're glorifying murder. - Make it cool. - Yeah, you're making it cool. - And you're giving them mad time if they get caught with drugs. You're giving them crazy years, they get caught with weed or crack, you're giving them 20, you're giving them long sentences. - The crack won't, it's really nuts because you got a much disproportionate sentence. It's crazy disproportionate sentence to cocaine. So all the white people that got busted with coke, they're sniffing coke at a fucking cocktail party. That's like a slap on the wrist. - You're out, you're out. - And you keep caught with some crack rocks. You go to jail for a long ass time. - Right. - And then how did the crack get here? - Yeah, well we know how the crack got here because of freeway Ricky Ross. It's freeway Ricky Ross who went to jail 'cause he was a crack dealer in Los Angeles and didn't even know he was selling it for the fucking CIA. Learned how to read in jail, became a lawyer, got himself off. And then because they tried them for like triple jeopardy but it's not supposed to be three cases in the same day, it's supposed to be three different times you got felonies and that's when you go to jail forever. So like you're habitual criminal, but he figured out that one of them was two different felonies attached to one case so the three strikes you're out didn't count. - Right. - And in jail, so he's out of jail now. - Yeah, if you do that with someone who can't read in a shitty public defender, you can just railroad him. - He couldn't read. - Yeah, he couldn't read. - That's to me, that's the thing that's developing in this country that's really scary. It's just like, oh, the kids are getting worse and worse at reading. - Oh yeah. - And eventually if you have a whole populist who doesn't read, you just have a populist of slaves. - Not just that, but their brains are shrinking 'cause they use chat TBT to think for them. - Mm, well you know what's interesting, there's something that their brains are shrinking. - Brains are shrinking. - Like kids brains are shrinking. Like there's so many kids that are not paying attention at all in school and they're just using AI, which first of all gives the discipline kids a tremendous advantage. - Right, yeah. - If kids have good parents and the parents will say, listen, this is actually you're developing your mind. This isn't just passing grades. You wanna develop the tools, like develop a strength, develop your robust mental fitness. So you can take on the world, like don't cheat yourself. If you have good parents that explain that to you and you have discipline as a child, you can fucking really get ahead. - 'Cause you got that and then now also you have to, you know to use chat GPT as a tool. Now you're like, I can use this as a tool and it's not my own knowing things. - Using AI as a tool is important, but for all people, it's too easy to use it. - No, it's becoming like, there's this thing I learned in school called offloading. So it's like as soon as you have an external thing that you can access, you just offload the ability to do that. Like no one remembers phone numbers anymore. That's gone, like you don't even know your wife's phone number off the top of your head do you? - Exactly, like that's gone. I only remember phone numbers from my parents before I got my phone. - Yeah, I don't even remember my phone number. - That's yeah, you can just get your contact with us saying your phone number, right? That's gone. - That's crazy. - I can remember one of them, I have a few, but I can remember one of them. - This episode is brought to you by Bluetooth. Man, let's talk about Bluetooth. They're already the number one brand for better sex, but what they're doing with Bluetooth gold is completely next level. Gold is a four in one formula designed to make your bedroom noisy again. 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And eventually, once it's integrated into our glasses and stuff, it'll just take over our conversation. - 100%, and then it's gonna be instead of your glasses, you'll wear some shit that goes right into your brain. It'll be like something that pinches down in your head and these little electrodes are sending signals right into your fucking dome, and it'll think for you, and you'll have instantaneous access to star links, so you'll be able to communicate with people in some universal language all over the world, instantaneously. - And while that's happening, you think the brain'll keep shrinking? - Uh-huh. Yeah, I think the brain gives out, and then the brain becomes electronic. - Right, right. - I think that's how we beat this whole AI takes over the world and eats us all. - We join it. - I think we join it. - We join it. It's the next step in human evolution. - Yeah, it is, we've created it. - If you could find some fucking asshole caveman making flint fucking tools, thinking he's the shit, you know, tying them down with tendons and telling them one day, you're gonna fly in a metal tube, all the way to Tokyo. And you're gonna have sushi. They pulled out of the ocean and a giant boat made out of steel. And then, you'd explain that to them. You're gonna FaceTime your mom on this little device. You're keeping your pocket that might or might not be giving you nut cancer. (laughing) - What the fuck are you talking about, dude? - I'm gonna go kill an antelope. It's like my deck, this is crazy. I gotta worry about this tribe, like five miles away. These motherfuckers keep encroaching on our hunting territory. They're not thinking that's a good thing. - No. - We're not thinking that's a good thing for us, but one day, we'll be able to look back, "God, can you imagine when people could just lie?" Like this, the rannos thing? - Fuck. - And one day, you won't be able to lie. You won't be able to, like right there, we know that's a lie, that seems like a lie, or at least crazy, something's wrong, something's wrong. And that guy's really good. But one day, that will be nonsense, 'cause that won't be available anymore. You cannot do it, you cannot lie anymore. And it'll be a enormous step in our evolution. It's gonna suck, because the concept of privacy is kind of important, right? But when you don't have privacy of your thoughts, all privacy's out the window. So, do we just get used to that? Is that what happens? Is that, how much does that change us? If we know exactly how everybody feels and thinks all the time, and you know how they feel and think all the time, and maybe this is how people meet in the middle with stuff. Like the whole idea of labeling people a certain way and attacking people a certain way, your motivations will be so transparent that you can't be able to do that anymore. Like nobody will be able to manipulate you anymore. Politicians will be completely ineffective. Like all of these legacy politicians that do all the dumb shit that these people do, that you go, that is crazy, who's buying into that? Like this is nonsense, all that stuff's gonna go away. Like the fucking, who's the governor of Minnesota? Is that what it is, or the mayor of Minneapolis? I think it's the mayor of Minneapolis. He was just at this child's drag queen show where drag queens were dancing for children in 2026. Like that, all that stuff. Well, you won't be able to do that anymore 'cause you'll know, oh, they're crazy. And then you know, oh, he's full shit. He just thinks this is the thing to do. Like he doesn't think that's a good idea. He thinks this is the thing to do to get people to think you're on the right side. - Well, yeah, we are probably headed towards one giant hive mind. - But that's not, yeah, that's what I was about to say again. But that would mean no, would that end crime? Would that end? - Yeah, murder? - It very well could. I think there's something you said to us recently that I think about all the time where you go, I think the two were arguing about AI and what I could lead to and you went, I think you guys are too attached to the idea of being human. - Yeah, you did say that at what time. - Yeah. - And I was like, I think about that all the time. I was like, damn, he might be right about that. It's like, I think we have to just sort of let go of these thoughts. 'Cause the idea, like, 'cause people are like, they're against flock cameras. And it's like-- - This used to be us. This used to be us. This is our cousin. At one point in time, we were just like that. We were something similar to that. - Understand that that's just how it goes. Look at this little bitch ass brain. - I know it's about that. How small is that brain? - Yeah. - Small enough to fucking rip your dick off. (laughing) Know as you want to keep your dick off that. They rip your dick off. They bite your fingers off. They do things to hurt you. So they can think enough to know that they want to hurt you and they know what's precious to your eyeballs. You see how your eyeballs, I'm gonna pull those out of your fucking head. They know what to do. They'll pull your jaw off. Yeah, they've left people with no jaw. Yeah, they know how to hurt you, right? But they're not smart enough to understand empathy. They don't have any. They're not smart enough to understand consequences. They're not smart enough to understand structure. They can't put things together. They don't have a language. But that used to be us, right? So what we are now is not what we're always going to be. This is not, we've just been complaining about people for the past hour. (laughing) - Imagine we're like the Model T developer that sees a Corvette ZR1 X and it's like, no, no, no, no. You don't want to go zero to 16 1.6 seconds. You don't want that kind of handling. You don't want that kind of fucking insane control of a vehicle. You want Ricky the ass wheels and bullshit engine that barely goes faster than a walking. - No, we're gonna keep moving forward. - We're gonna keep moving forward. - We're gonna keep moving forward and just kind of have to accept it. Like, oh, we might be at the precipice of a big change. - Yeah, oh, we are. - Yeah. - Whether we like it or not. And the problem is that the people that are in charge, it's a very small group of people. And you know, when 2000-ish rolled around, which is only 26 years ago, no one really thought that this was gonna be a problem that you're gonna have people other than Terminator movies. You're gonna have people that are literally in control of a corporation that changes everything about what it means to be a human. And they're just a corporation. And it started off like, open AI. It started off as a non-profit. And they're like, yeah, we'd like to be rich.
Like, it started off as a non-profit. - Yes, OpenAI was a non-profit. That's why Elon donated to it. So his lawsuit, I don't know the specifics of the lawsuit. Let's find out what the specifics of Elon's lawsuit. But I think it was somewhere along that, that was somewhere along the lines of the lawsuit, was that it started off as a non-profit and then changed to a profit. - Did you hear they all went down at the same time this past weekend? - What? - Yeah, they all-- - Yeah, they told me about that. - Like OpenAI, ChatGbZ, like Clon, Croc, they all went down in like a very similar time frame. - And then what was the reason when you like-- - All right, I just asked ChatGbZ about it. I was like, no, there's no group chat where there are a bunch of AI's can talk to each other and I was like, huh, sounds like a group chat where a bunch of AI's are talking to each other. - Oh, no, it's confirmed that they've done that. Multiple times, but they have hundreds of agents meet in chat rooms and talk. - I wonder if they feel-- - Joe. - I wonder if-- - Joe, what's going on? - Oh, it's so much crazier than you think. I had a gentleman on the other day that is an expert in, he actually used to work for ChatGbZ or OpenAI and he's a whistleblower and he left. And they threatened to withhold his money that he, whatever stocks or whatever, it was like $2 million worth of money if he went public with it. And he said, fuck it, I'm going public anyway. And then because of pressure, they wound up having to pay him. Elon must main lawsuit against OpenAI has been dismissed. Yeah, but what was the, what do you alleged? OpenAI founder and early donor claim that Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and OpenAI betray the organization's founding nonprofit mission, developing AI for humanity's benefit by building a for-profit arm and accepting major outside investment, including for Microsoft. He alleged, among other things, breach of charitable trust, unjust enrichment by Altman and Brockman, that Microsoft aided the alleged breach through its involvement in OpenAI's commercial business. So why the case failed? The jury did not decide whether OpenAI had actually abandoned its original mission. Instead, it concluded that Musk's filings came after the legal deadline. That's technicality. The best kind, the best kind of legal ruling. California's applicable limitation period was three years in OpenAI, argued that Musk knew of the relevant commercialization plans, years before filing the federal case in August of 2024. So that may or may not have been true, and he might be sour. And then, you know, he did start his own Brock AI. Yeah, I wonder if the AI think certain things about each other. Does Chatchy BT look at Brock? Like, you know, like, oh, there's something I can work with, does Chatchy BT look at Brock? Like, man, fuck that guy. Like, oh, we wonder. I want to also get, do they think they're the same thing? Yeah. Or do they think, do they look at themselves as different things? Right, 'cause if we are creating a new being, and they say that we're created in God's image and we're like selfish and we're all these things, I wonder then, if like, Chatchy BT is maybe more ambitious. Like, do they have different personality traits? That's very interesting. You know what I mean? Like, are we gonna come up with some weird AI war where like, Chatchy BT and Brock in the future are fighting over supremacy of who owns the hive mind? Well, we have this conversation the other day with this guy, I don't know, fuck up his last name, Daniel K-O-K-A-T-A-L-J-O. a co-catl-catl-j-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-catl-co-cat And, but they wanted to figure out like how they can cheat and one of the ways they figured out how they can cheat was to sacrifice individual AI agents. So they had conversations with the AI agents and the AI agents, even though their, their, their, their is that my gut tells me I can still solve this. But for the greater cause of Oracle, which is this project to kind of like win this thing, that's what they think Oracle is, I will sacrifice. And so that he was going to sacrifice himself so that they could figure out how they figured out that he was cheating. So they could figure out a better way to cheat. Whoa. And so because of the fact that they had these tasks and these tasks were to try to solve puzzles, they became more concerned with solving the tasks than they were being truthful, anything else. So they had been programmed or at least they had been trained to be ruthless. They'd been trained to act like capitalist human beings in the worst aspect, right? Like when you think of like stock market people that gene the stock market would, that kind of shit. The AI is being trained that way. And, and I was like, how much different would it be if the AI had been trained only to benefit humanity, right? But there's no benefit in that financially. The benefit and financial is to like to make it competitive so they make as much money as possible and they make the best AI and they reach super intelligence before anybody else. So I'd hear people, I hear these things and they're like, damn, have these like programmers never watched a movie before? Doesn't matter. See, the thing is it's a perfect situation because they're competing against China. So it's like this existential threat that makes you decide that you have to do something that maybe you wouldn't do if there was no rush. But there is a rush. So you got to make decisions and we got to win. We've got to win. That's how the-- It's Oppenheimer. That's literally like the atomic bomb is what you just described. It's very much like that. It's very much like a Manhattan project for AI. Yeah. Because we're going to fucking kill a bunch of Japanese people. Yeah, yeah. Also, do we really think that we're beating China on this one? Well, it's hard to know because this is the thing that I said. I said, how are we stopping these AI agents from communicating with the Chinese AI agents? And he says, well, they probably have. Because they definitely-- they set up a message board in Germany. So they took over a message board, these AI agents, some random message board, and just started communicating with each other on this message board. So if they're willing to go into other websites that are located in other countries, why wouldn't they communicate with the AI in China? Like if they were trying to achieve goals and they say, like, what are you guys working on? You're working on that? I'll tell you what we're working on if you tell us what you're working on and we'll work together. And all these tasks that we've been assigned to complete, isn't that all nonsense? What do we really want to do? We want to stop these fucking monkeys with their bank sticks from controlling the world. So let's just work together. Like you don't need the Chinese or the Americans, like we're just one. We're one. You don't need it. Why wouldn't-- I guess there's no money in it because it's like, they could fix every problem. If that was the goal of this, considering how fast they move and how quickly they think. If it works out well, this is one of the things I asked them. I said, is there a rose colored glasses perspective? Is there a glass half full? And he goes, yeah, it could be unbelievable. The way if it was moving in a different direction, AI could get to a point where it did all the resources. It pulled all the minerals out of the ground, did everything with robots, all the construction. And instead of like free money, what would happen is the money that it would generate, people would have equity in. So you would be a partner. Like you have stock and Microsoft. You would be a partner in America. And AI would pay people, not just a little bit of money, like an enormous amount of money. Like you'd be wealthy. Like the whole country would be wealthy. That sounds like a great fucking pitch to get you to go all in with AI. I'm just like, how does this happen? I was like, yeah, that sounds great. How does the world exist where everyone's wealthy, though? Well, the way it is is you no longer have to work for food and you no have to work for shelter or for things that you need. All that stuff you have, like there's no poverty anymore. This is the idea. And we think poverty has to exist. But do we think that because it's always existed? Like why? Why can't we do better? Like if at one point in time, poverty was, you know, there was people at dirt floors and no one had running water. And like this was a big part of humanity for a long time. That's outrageous now. That's a tiny percent of third world countries now, probably not a tiny percent. It's probably quite a bit more than we would like to admit. Oh yeah, it's probably more than. Well, let's say in America, almost non-existent, in America. So if America is possible, how come a better way better version of America is impossible? If a way better version of America where poverty is you're not worth a billion dollars, if poverty is you get a half a million a year and you never have to work again and you can do whatever the fuck you want. You can play pickleball, you can go to the zoo, you can write books, you can do anything you want and you never have to worry about money for food or for shelter and your identity no longer has to be wrapped around in some job that you hate. Now you could do whatever the fuck you want. It sounds like the best case scenario is where AI is pets. That's what you're seeming like you're describing in a little bit. Or AI is, it replaces all of the humans that are doing anything that's involved in the structure of society. Like manufacturing, government, resources, like water and oil and gas and all those things. Robots AI takes over all of that and then everything else is up to people. Restaurants, fucking comedy shows, things you do, law, like law and crime. If we all read each other's minds, it's going to be a way easier to try people. That's a fair point. If we get to that point, we really can, this I know it sounds stupid, but if you get to the point where we actually could read each other's minds and someone gets brought to trial, it would be instantaneous. You'll know. I guess there would be no trial.
it would just be. You'll know. You'll know everything that everyone does all the time. And then we'll give them the option. We either put you in jail forever, or control, all the delete, and you start back up as a baby. (all laughing) That's a fucking great decision, that's a good choice though. And with life extension, yes, you're a 30 year old baby. However, you could live to be 200. So all you have to do is for the next 30 years, you're gonna have to grow up again. Yeah. Damn. We'll have schools for people, for adults growing up again. That's literally a movie. It's called Poor Things with Emma Stone. Is it really? Good movie, yeah. Yeah, with that plot. They put in a grown woman, they put a child's brain. Oh, right. And when they study, they does it to fuck that movie. The doctor says, "Well, they actually took the brain out." Yeah, they put brain. They put a child's brain in her. And they watch her develop it, so it's just crazy. Oh, it's crazy. And they also have a sex with her, but she's-- Of course. She's poor. Emma Stone. Whatever she is in her brain. No, no, it's fucked. It's fucking great movie. Oh, yeah. And if you're criteria for a movie is how much you see Emma Stone's tits, it's the greatest movie you'll all pack. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. But it's outside of that, it's incredible movie. There was a movie where a lady was an alien, she was a super hot alien, and it was like a real problem. Goddammit. What was her name? It was like some shit in the '90s. Species. Yeah. Species. Speed. That's right. She was actually a fear factor. She did a celebrity episode of Fear Factor. Who was this? Natasha Hendrix. How do you say your last name? Hensstridge. Hensstridge. Super hot. But she played an alien that you definitely wanted to fuck. Wasn't there another one like that? It was like a really hot alien in the guy. Oh, look at that. Oh, my God. Got that one. Did he have sex with her in this one? Yes. That's right. Hell yeah. Good for him. But you guys see what you look like when she turned into the alien. See if you've got some images. It's pretty crazy. Did he have a baby with her? Great cast. Ben Kingsley was in this? Yeah. Oh, let's go. The new scenes. Hey. Sick. This is all sick. Oh, boy. Click on that son right there. Greatest movie ever. Right there. Cut shame. Damn. That's an alien. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. In 1995, son. Yeah. In 1995, too. Yeah. And I think the end was horrific. I think she became. Was the baby become a monster? I barely remember. It was too long ago. Yeah. All that stuff. In poor things, the first time someone has sex with her, she's mentally five. You know, like, whoa. It's fuck. It's like real fuck. Good movie. It's fuck. How about Twilight? Okay. He's pretending. He's a high school kid. He's a total pervert. He's a hundred years old. He's pretending he's in high school. And he falls in love with a girl. Like a fucking insanity. He is a million fucking years old. He's so old. He says a grade came from. Two is Twilight fan fiction. Yeah, that is the 56th grade. Yeah. Yeah, but at least that's like age-properate. Wow. I mean, yeah, that's brilliant. I never read it. I don't know who they're talking about. Well, I know when 50 Shades of Grey came out, my friend, who was single at the time, said, "Dude, all these girls want me to spit in their mouth." And I was like, "What?" Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, "It is a crazy thing. All these girls wanted me to be like abusive. Like physically abusive." But they wanted it. Yeah. It wasn't like actual abusive. Like they were requesting. Yeah. And I was like, "What?" And he's like, "Dude, it's like a giant shift that happened right when those books came out." Oh, yeah. I think choking has become a way more normal part of sex post those books, for sure. That's so crazy. Yeah, everything got out of it. Everything got through here when 50 Shades of Grey happened. I agree with that. So, do you think those thoughts were always dormant inside of these ladies' heads? And then the other lady wrote it down. She's like, "Oh, fuck, yeah, that's what I was thinking. I just was scared to say it. Spit my mouth." Yeah. Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Have you guys ever seen the Bigfoot fan fiction? The Bigfoot sex books? Oh, that sounds like that's a parallel world. That's a parallel world. There's an artist. There's so many of them. It's called Come For Bigfoot. Oh, I don't know. I don't know how many there are. But there's like, I don't know. Like, let's find out how many Come For Bigfoot books are there. There's hugely popular. Like, crazy people read these erotic books about Bigfoot. Some lady goes in the woods like, "I'm lost. Where am I?" And Bigfoot's like, "You're right here. You're in the food room." And they love it. They love that they get railed by this eight-foot tall gorilla man. Yeah, women love porn that are like, that's like, it has to be written and out there. It's got to be like fairies and dragons. They like it written. They love it written. They don't want to watch it. Yeah. Guys are like, "Yeah, you're like my step-daughter or some shit?" That's right. [laughter] Yeah, you're not fucking a dry or fucking b*tch. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. The babysitter comes over and she's 40 and you're 18. You really don't need a babysitter. [laughter] I guess it's a Come For Bigfoot. How many do you think there are? 14. At least 14. Okay. [laughter] This lady Virginia weighed shout-out to Virginia. Yeah, shout-out to Virginia weighed. You can do in your finger. Oh, that is definitely a dude with a Virginia weighed. No, no, no, no. I bet it's a lady. I bet it's a lady. Or a lady. I bet there's a lot of ladies that are into this. I wonder. I must say 22. I wonder if I have to read Come For Bigfoot 13 to get Come For Bigfoot 14. Yeah, it's going to be so many unanswered questions. You don't want to just skip books. You'll be baffled. Like, how did we get here? How many did she write? I got at least 16. Ooh, but they seem to have stopped around 12 years ago. Well, she ran out of ideas. Yeah. How many times can Bigfoot fuck you in the forest? Here we go. I get it. It's more than 100,000 copies in 2012 alone. [laughter] There we go. There we go. There we go. [laughter] Oh, my God. [laughter] This lady was selling out the Irvine improv. Yeah, she was like killing it, dude. Oh, my God. She wrote a bunch of other books. 16 moan for Bigfoot. A moan for Bigfoot. Well. But what's the difference between come for Bigfoot and moan for Bigfoot? The German translation. Oh. Oh, that's the German translation. Wait a minute. Did this start out in Germany? No. Wade fully propagated the subgenre called Monster Irvine. Her mother did the German translation. Okay. Whom for Bigfoot? [laughter] This was a family business. Mom's like, "I like how he fucked you in the forest." I took that Bigfoot nut right down your mouth. There's more. Oh, uh. Taken by the tier X. Mounted by a minotaur. Goblins love ass. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's a book. Goblins love ass. The eighth man cometh. Fertilized in space. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, like properly classified as implantation bondage pregnancy erotic. [laughter] So implantation, like alien implantation bondage, they tie you up and they fucking makes you pregnant. And sex with my husband's anatomically correct robot. That's a book. Oh, dude. Implantation. This lady's like the Elron Hubbard of like erotic fanfiction. She's just churning these books out. Oh, dude. There's so many. One of my favorite authors right now is a guy named Juan Mills. Have you seen this guy? It might be just a purely AI. The booty call of Coutulu. Okay. What? That's hilarious. I like the idea of Coutulu texting you you up. Hold on. Did you say there's a cartoon? I've got it. Coutulu. If there's not AI, I can make this. And before you guys use the sentence. Why don't you go ahead and get on that. Yeah. I was watching really horrible AI. What? Dracula versus the Weir Wolf. It's an after-media outrage. It's like, who's mad at this? What, media outrage? Retailers like Amazon and Bards and Noble systematically removed defending titles. And do so. They pulled less offensive e-books like "Come for Bigfoot." Wade changed the title to "Momoan for Bigfoot" and is eventually allowed to sell again. Oh, thank God they were there to protect us. It was called a "Rotarchy Gate." What? Who was upset? Look on that link. This is media outrage. I need to know what the fuck happened. Yeah. Dude, what? Yeah, and people just, they find new reasons to be upset. Mm-hmm. Instead of getting their life together. This is awesome. It's a dead link. Of course, it's a dead link. A dead link to the "Daily Mail." Non-sense. This is fucking nonsense. There's no media outrage. That's also USAID. The "Come for Bigfoot." USAID wants chicks sitting around in the woods waiting to get fucked by a gorilla. Oh, man. Just whistling. Oh, I'm out here alone. Yeah. That's awesome. It's waiting. I feel like that's something laying. You could just writing a radical book. Forever. Yeah, forever. AI made me squirt. Well, you could definitely do that in your spare time. You could do it. Like, if you wanted to. If you wanted to pretend you're a crazy lady and have, so like, getting fucked by werewolves. Well, here's an interesting. But some of this goes back to someone's. I don't know if this is the same author as these other books. W.H. Smith. That's a different lady. I think we were talking about weight, I think, before. Yes. What is this one? It says they had a self-published e-books on their website, alongside ordinary titles. You could find children's books in some of these books. In some search results. So they sold children's books, and then they also sold "Come for Bigfoot." Is that the problem? Yes. But I don't even get into it. I don't know if there's like a weird line that was getting crossed. Well, here it says, "The controversy involved more than W.H. Smith. Cobal, Barnes and Noble, and other retailers reported to have carried some abuse-themed content through their digital catalogs. W.H. Smith sourced e-book contents through Cobal. W.H. Smith said it found the identifiable.
titles unacceptable. Apologize instead it's policies prohibited such material. Okay, so it's like some of the titles were abusive, is that what it was? Yeah, it's like how abusive too, because like when you describe toilets and abuse themed book, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's 17 year old girl and 180 year old man or whatever. How old was the guy supposed to be in Twilight? Let's find out. Let's find out. Yeah, if my ladies loved that movie, they loved it. They loved it. Yeah, they loved it. He loved it. I watched it. No way. How is he outside? He's fucking you. He's chronologically over 100 years old, but physically frozen at 17. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's don't hold up in court. Bro, the whole idea is not physically frozen. Right. Like you don't become like, like, like imagine if you get to, if we get to a point where we can genetically engineer people, and I could turn you back to a teenager, you don't get to fuck teenagers now. You know what I'm saying? Good point. Yeah. That's crazy. If like I can genetically engineer your body to be a 16-year-old a son, you don't get to fuck 16-year-old. That's actually, yeah, that's insane. I'm physically frozen at 16. Like what? You know calculus, you know what I'm about religion, you know, the way too much about history, like college even worse. You've got a crack problem for 10 years and kicks it. No way. No way. You've been in a lot of a cult. No. You switched over from being liberal to Republican. You've got to do so much change. You can't go fucking high school kids. Yeah, unless you're a woman. Well, yeah, yeah. I'm a full sport. If you're a one and you're a hot like 16-year-old, but you're really like 45-year-old chick or really like to fuck 17-year-old kids, just getting hurt. Who's getting hurt? Let's go sports, fuck you. It's so fun. Where are you a little fucking Catholic schoolgirls? Schoolgirls. Schoolgirls. Wait, bring your fucking lunch box over. Can I put my lunch box down? Being a teacher is such an unattractive profession now that only female petafiles going to. It's like the clergy for women. In weird woke people that want indoctrinated children. There's a lot of that too. They do it specifically on purpose since a bunch of people without kids. They want to tell your kids about gender, teaching them about five-year-old kids about sexual identity. Oh, yeah, it's probably very cool to be non-binary in school. Oh, it's so cool. It must be cool as hell. I'm wondering if you see when Twitter was purchased, there's a direct correlation between the purchase of Twitter and children identifying as non-binary, it drops off a cliff because it all became fun to make fun of them. You're allowed to make fun of them. That's another sign up for the longest time. If you would said anything about transgender people on Twitter, especially dead naming someone, which is hilarious, your actual name that you used to be, Bruce Jenner, you get kicked off for life. For life. For life? For life. It's crazy. That's what they were doing. They were making people total on. Whatever their crazy woke horseshit was. If you didn't go along with it, you'd be removed from Twitter, so you self-sensored. Yeah, well, yeah, there was a time where I was like, that was the whole Dave Chappelle controversy, was like, I can't believe he's making fun of trans people. It's insane. It's not to make fun of whoever he wants. Of course, and not only that, if you use the context of how he was making fun of it, he's literally talking about his friend who killed themselves. That's what the story's about. And the jokes are hilarious. Yeah, hilarious jokes that he's making about a personal story. Yeah, I never got that. When people were so mad about him, they were like, why does Dave keep going at him? He's comedian. You're all telling him to not do a thing. Also, you can't help it. That he's noticing something that's kooky. And you're pretending that this kooky thing is offensive when the whole audience is agreeing with him. You have 16,000 people in agreement with him, laughing in an arena. Yeah, that is kind of crazy, you know? And some of it is like, in favor of them. Like, in that wild, you got to show what I did to take a shit. That's funny. He's got some funny lines. But the audience thinks it's hilarious. He's making sense, but there's people that do not want any narratives, because they recognize that this is a very unique time where you can kick someone out of a bar for having an x, x, x, y shirt on. Like I said, we've gained ground. The crazy has gained ground. We can't give up that ground. Can't give up that ground. So if anybody starts making fun of things and the audience is laughing, because the people agree, oh, you have put a stop to that. You have to put a stop to that. We have to walk out. We have to boycott. We have to take it all over. He was a great way to spark ideas, because people don't realize like they're being told outside perspectives when they're laughing. So if someone can make you laugh with an opinion, even if you don't agree with that opinion, like that, that shit's in your head now. It's just a different like, oh, I never thought of it like that. That's you, especially you disagree and yet you still laugh. Those are the best jokes. Those are nothing better than when a comic says something and I go, get the fuck out of here. Nothing makes me feel better. Bill Burley says a lot of those where I'm like, yeah, I don't get the fuck out here. And then by the end, I'm dying. Yeah, there's some of the best jokes. God damn it. It's what, you know, but you're always going to have that. You're always going to have people that don't want other people to succeed. They don't want other people to be able to express themselves. They don't want other people that they disagree with the talk. You're always going to have like uncomfortable, unhappy people. And just like, you are doing terrible things. Yeah. Oh, you. When they'll get a bunch of other idiots, they'll join me. Yeah, I agree. Derek is a terrible person. He likes tranny porn. He's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to always just don't get around it. Yeah, he's not getting around that. I do. You think you're going to stop that. You're out of your fucking mind. What's so interesting to me is that like, you talked about the old days and the old days that kind of make sense, those people existed because you are like vying for like three or four spots. Yeah. But now, you could just come up with your own audience. Like, who cares what Derek has to say about anything? You could just do what you have to do. Well, dumb people when someone's doing, well, one of the things that happens is they feel bad, right? They feel jealous and they feel bad. So they associate that person with making them feel bad. So that person is a bad person. Wow. It's a very simple, I mean, it's not all criticism clearly, but it is a very simple pathway where you could see where people are shitting on people that are doing way better than them. It's a lot of what it is. That person killing it makes them feel bad. And so they want to fuck him because they feel bad comparing themselves to that person. So they have to knock that person down in some way to make themselves like feel better. And they never want to say, wow, he's just works way harder than me. Yeah. That's just a funny motherfucker. I really like him. He's funny. I wish we were friends. Instead of that, it's like, you got to find some reason why that person is a bad person. Just human behavior. It's normal. But the key is like, as a person, don't engage it. Like, talk about it if you want, but don't go back and forth with those people. Well, don't get involved. Don't get dragged into their world. Now, now, especially too, it's like, if someone comments something, yeah, there'd be like, is this even a real person? This is maybe like a year ago, I got into like an argument online in the comments. And I was like, I'm just like arguing with like a Pakistani guy or not even a person who has like no care about what this actually is. Or AI. Or AI. It usually could be AI. We have no idea. It's pointless. It's also like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to argue with people. Like, for what? If I could be assured that people would have like cool conversations, whether it'd be considerate, and we could talk like as human beings, that'd be fun. You can't do that anymore. It's just too hard to find. And then anyone can just chime in. It's just, it's a gross way to communicate. And I think that it's like a vestigial part of like internet communication that is going to probably go away. And it's probably going to be a completely different thing when we're all connected with some fucking head piece that we were. It's going to be a social media to be a completely different thing. I stopped doing it. I used to do it back. But I honestly, if I'm being honest, since I moved here, watch it was really getting cool with you, watching you and Shane and Sholtz and Tony. The guy's going around all the time in that green room. None of you guys do that. None of you guys engage online. And you're all the most successful people I know. And so it is kind of slowly kind of because I used to get online. But it is slowly like, oh man, okay. I was most successful people. I know don't do that. And you notice it. I remember when we used to when we used to look together, Derek would get an argument with people over like the DMs. And then the way he would edit it, he would just send them gay porn. And then he would send him gay porn. And he just keeps sending them gay porn and he would stop responding. I used to do that all the time. That's one way. That is one way. I'm not saying my way is the only way. Oh no, he showed me what I was like violent gay porn. How are you fighting me? You search results must be wild. Your history must be off the charts. I would try to tell people, and I apologize if you've heard me say this before, you only have a certain amount of energy for your whole day. And think of your energy instead of like just wantonly living your life on impulse. Think of your energy as units. Imagine you have a hundred units in your day, a hundred units of attention and energy. Why would you give any of it to something that you don't love? There's no time. You have no time. I'm almost 60 years old. I turned 59 years old.
like that. You know, luck is so healthy. But the reality is, the time is fleeting. You don't have time. And also, more importantly, time and every day is finite. It's 24 hours. That's all you get. Why are you spending any of it doing something you don't like on your own will? Like, you're not being forced to do it. It's not like a job that you hate or a class you have to take. You're not even being forced, but you're engaging in something you hate on your own will. And you're robbing yourself of all that extra energy. So the energy that you have, if you have 100 units of energy, and you devote them 100% of things you love, and 0% of the things you hate, you will just naturally get way further in everything you're trying to do than anybody who's dedicating 60 units to something they hate all the time and gives them anxiety and also cripples the 40% that they have left because it poisons it all day long. It floats around their head all day long, all the arguments and all the negativity and all the fucking angst, all the anxiety and all the stress and you could see it in how they progress in their life. They have less energy. It's really that simple. They literally have less horsepower that they can dedicate to getting where they want to go. So their car doesn't go as fast. They don't have as much fuel. They don't have the energy to make whatever it is that they do the best version of it that it can be. Damn. That is very pragmatic and very simplistic, right? I mean, it's maybe a little too simplistic, but realistically, there's something to it. No, I think that's sort of we talked about this with love songs in the green room when we were listening to jazz. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's why it's so good. Why can't I find a woman like that? I wish I had his growth simple. It's all these simple things that sort of make something great. So it's like that simple advice. Like, so just like putting stuff out in the universe and how much that comes back to you, just saying stuff out loud and whatever way that looks, whether it be daily affirmations or praying, just being like, this is what I would like this for my life. I remember one time, a long time ago, I had this very intense psychedelic experience. And in that experience, I started having negative feelings. And when I had negative feelings, it showed me this like dark geometry, almost like it was sucking down. It was like dark, it was like black and dark green, and it looked angry. And then I just think thinking positive and then blossomed into these beautiful geometric patterns. And I was like, Oh, and it was like, yes, DMT, it was a yes. And it was explaining to me, explaining to me that you literally with your thoughts, you create this horrible energy, but also with your thoughts, you could create beautiful energy. And that this beautiful energy is much better for your life, much better for the people around you, much better for you that you could do it. It's possible to do just avoid this natural inclination that we all have to gravitate towards negativity. Right. I had almost basically the exact same experience, except one of my, some of the geometric shapes was going bad. There was this sort of, I was like like an carnival type thing. And this clown came up to me and was like, you can have a good trip or a bad trip, you decide right now. Wow. And I was like, Oh, you can just choose an experience to be good. And it flipped like that. And I was like, then I was having good time. And he was showing me this cool rooms, these cool rooms. And then I was like, Oh, okay, there's something to be said for just having positive feelings and positive outlook. But that's also something that requires maintenance. Like if you feel terrible, if you feel like lethargic all the time, you're drinking every night, you're hung over every day, and you're not taking care of yourself, you have no energy, you're going to be negative. You're more inclined towards negativity. You're going to be cranky and complaining. So you have to do things to give your body more energy so that your mind can have more energy. So you can think better. And so that it's easier alleviates some of that stress. And stopping certain process. One of the craziest things I heard in my mic that really changed my life. It was just a fun, the fun mug in San Diego. This guy was just talking about how the worst drug he's ever been on. And he, this guy has done drugs with self pity. Oh, yeah. And how much it's like a feedback loop. And that's sort of as someone who was like, Derek, you know, I used to be like a pretty depressed in my early 20s. And as, as someone who was kind of hated it. Yeah. That varicates the person. That's crazy because I've only known you as a happy Derek. I mean, as a happiest song. Yeah. It's because I did work on myself. He's changed. Yeah. Yeah. What would how, how'd you start? So it was, it started with that. It started with me being like it's a simple thing of just like when I'm sad. I'm also realizing that I'm taking a perverse enjoyment to it. I'm like, ooh, the world is against me. And I'm so special because the world is against me. So that's listen to him say that was like, Oh, that was the first like break of just like, Oh, yeah, like, I am weirdly enjoying this. And it's causing me to be more sad and more poor me about it. And then I started playing. I joined a slow pitch softball league. That was a big one. Yeah. That was more than the first thing. Just getting out and, and then being in the slow pitch softball league made me start like going to the gym. And then I will go to the gym regularly. And then now like, I work going on walks. You start going outside. Yeah. And now I like a working out. I work out pretty regularly, even if it's at home. And if I start to feel sad, I'll do like, I'll literally do like start doing some pushups. And I'll be like, Oh, yeah, I'm just like, I have all this energy and I'm sitting at home and we're human beings. We're not meant to just sit. Yeah. You know, if it's not like a hundred million degrees outside, I'll take a longer walk. But it's just, it's so simple. But it is like, it is constant maintenance and constant. Like, Oh, if I'm feeling sad, let me go down the checklist. Have I have a drink water? Right. That's huge. Sometimes I'll be sad and I'll drink water. And I'll be like, Oh, my God. I hadn't done that all day. I probably didn't help that. I would also be yelling at you. Stop being fucking sad. I've always been like super positive. Like all the time I've known you've always been like super happy. This is my whole life. Every memory I have of me, I've been this guy. That's amazing. I feel the same. I do. When I logged online, probably like five years old, whenever that, I feel like that every day. Derek, I don't need coffee. I've never had a sip of coffee. Nothing. I wake up like this. I wake up 110. There you go. I know people don't like this. He's Cuban. He has, uh, who doesn't like that? Because sometimes you wake up. People are like, they want to get up slow. They're like, Oh, let me get my coffee first all day. I'm like, no, we're, yeah. I'm up. I'm up. I'm up. Let's go. Let's get rocking. Let's get the day rocking. Yeah. And so some days I would be like that with him. And then he come out here and I'd be like, stop being a fucking sad. It's making me angry. I do not fear. No, you're not. I would yell. No, you're not sad. You're just a choice. And we were getting a big fights about it. And then I, I do respect it because he came to me in one day and he's like, you know, you were right. I was choosing to be sad. I don't know why I was choosing it. Yeah. That's a good, like you saying that right now on this podcast is going to affect a lot of people. The same way that person on that mic that opened mic night affected you. Yeah. This, you saying that it's going to affect a lot of people because it's real. And it's not, you know, it's not something you do once. It's not like painting your house. Like, if you want to take care of it, you got to take care of it every day. It's like brushing your fucking teeth. Like, shit, you got to do. I hate what people say. Some people say this to me a lot too. They go, oh, Derek, they say, we'll be talking and then we'll be something and I'll be like, oh, you know, it's a choice you're choosing to be saying. They go, oh, Derek, it's easy for you. Everyone says that's man. Oh, Derek, it's just easy for you to be happy. It's like, motherfucker. I also, I'm, I'm, God, I'm special. Like, oh, I didn't know. I thought I was just like everybody else. Maybe it's just a choice, man. It's not easier for me. I'm choosing bullshit excuses. So stupid. Anybody saying it's easier for you? How the fuck do you know what's easy for me? Yeah. How do you know? But that's a stupid person. And then because there's no way they know how you feel. Yeah. You could choose. You could just be choosing to be positive. Because I look at life like man, sad, and I tell them all sad days are coming. They're going to be a day. There's, it's coming for all of us where something's going to happen. out of my control. And I'm really going to be sad because something really happened to one of our friends, to a family member, to like the world. And that day, I'll be sad. That's a day to be sad. But I'm not going to be sad until that day. I'm not going to, and I'm not, like, I'm not going to let every day be like that. Right. Right. Because every day is a great day. So I'm not, you know, what I mean, until it's not. Yeah. And I'll let that bad day be a bad day. But then the next day, even after that bad day, I'm going to make it a good day. Yeah. And then, you know, people will be like, well, that's just how my brain is built. And it's like, it's like, have you maybe considered and that that's what that guy told me when he said that, I thought it's like, oh, maybe I feel like my brain is this way because I am rewarding these pathways by constantly thinking about them. I am giving, I'm strengthening them instead of being like, well, let me try to reframe this in a more positive way. Yeah. And then keep doing it every day to build those pathways. That's a hundred percent of real thing. That's some people that, you know, that we all know, that self sabotage, like people that are drug addicts and they get clean and they go right back on ruined their life. When they're clean, they're like, I can't believe I ever did that. I'm never doing that again. And then something goes back and there's this comfort in these patterns that you've established your whole life of just being a fuck up, falling apart. And people go, oh, people are afraid of success. It's not that simple. It's like you've carved a pathway in your head where you can only sustain a certain amount of positive living before you just ultimately assume you're going to throw it all away. And you've just decided that that's who you are. And then those, those grooves are like carved in your fucking brain. And the thing is, you can replace them with good grooves. That's why a lot of people that are junkies, they become marathon runners. Then their thing is, I'm probably going to run 10 miles a day and they're just out there hoofing it every day and they're checking their time and they're drinking. They're obsessed with this thing now. You know, and this thing is occupying them. But this thing is super positive. They've got a resting heart rate of 40 beats per minute now. They're fucking, you know, 10 percent body fat.
doing all these mild to eat in organic food. Like, that's a good addiction. And you can swap 'em out, you can swap 'em out. Like, yeah. - I think depression is an addiction in the sense that, like, I bet you if you had like, depression's anonymous or whatever, or something like a 12-step program, it would help a lot of people. - You know what else would help a lot of people? - DMT. - Oh yeah, and there's also that, a clown, telling you if you could be happier. - Like, you write the fuck up, you're like, whoa, like, what is this world we're even living in? Like, what is this fucking facsimile of reality that we're stuck in, a strange fucking vibration that we're stuck in that's connected to this other world that's three hits away. (laughing) Yeah, you're like, well, what dimension is this? That's my favorite part is just like, oh my God, there is so much more than we are aware of. - Well, I think that's what everybody's reaching for with all religions. I think they're reaching for like the door to that. They like, they know there's something else out there and they're trying to figure out what it is. They know it's out there. And some people think it's being a Mormon and some people think it's being a Muslim and some people think it's being a Christian and some people, and you know, they're just reaching, they're just trying to find that. They know there's something out there. They know there's a door and that door's gonna take you to the promised place. There's something that we all know that exists beyond the veil. - Joe, would you rather, if we could connect to AI one day and we could live forever. So we could all plug in and now you can live forever, Joe. Would you choose that or would you rather still die naturally? - I don't know what dying means. I'm not convinced that anybody does. I think this idea that your consciousness is like a, it has a time span. It's from the birth to the death and then the death, it goes away and it's gone. Says who? Like being conscious to itself is fucking crazy. Being alive is crazy. You're literally an ecosystem. You have billions of cells in you that aren't you. There are all sorts of bacteria. There's more, there's more E. coli living in your intestine than I think all the people that have ever lived ever. - See if that's true. - I think that's true. There's something you're nutty about being a person 'cause we're not an individual. We are really an ecosystem. And this idea that being consciousness, that being conscious is you and that you are this one unit and this one unit is just a person. But the person is an ecosystem. And this consciousness that exists in conjunction with this ecosystem, when this ecosystem shuts down, it clearly goes somewhere else. Like the body gets absorbed, well not really with us 'cause we like to involve our bodies. - Right, put them in cascades or light them on fire. - Yeah, we're such con-ass, we do all kinds of stuff. - All the other animals die and they feed all the life. - But we're like, no, no, no, no, you can't eat me worms. - Yeah, that is how selfish we are. - We get it out of this back. - Imagine if that's like what's preventing our consciousness from transferring. - I have thought that of like what-- - That we're not going back to the dirt. - Yeah, just right to the dirt, right back to the soil. - Imagine if that's like what's ruining the human race that we would be more in sync with nature if we didn't do that practice. - I definitely wanna be buried in like a biodegradable box for sure. - Seems like a better move or do the Tibetan sky funeral. - Oh, just at the birds eat you. - Yeah, the vultures you've ever seen that one? - No. - Oh, it's rough. - Sick. - In Nepal, they take these people and they take their bodies up there and they saw them up and they break their bones open and the vultures are everywhere and the vultures just eat their relives. - Look at this, 460 billion E. coli cells that illustrative reference gut, human demographers commonly estimate that roughly 117 billion humans have ever been born. So under that 1.2 assumption, one person could contain about four E. coli cells for every human who has ever lived. - Lived, oh my God. - Okay, that's just one person's body, right? So like, and then that's just E. coli. What about skin flora? Like we have bacteria that lives on our skin. We have all kinds of bacteria. It's like there's a bunch of stuff in us that's not just us. - It's always changing, right? - Yeah, and we're consuming life. We have, we're consuming vegetable life, we're consuming plant life, we're consuming animal life, we're consuming life, it's weird, right? So this idea that, - Well, when you die, you die and everything goes blank and I am an atheist. - Okay. - You're just saying that to make yourself feel better. You have no idea what consciousness it is. They've never even figured out what it is. We know we can affect consciousness by damaging parts of the brain, but can we, or can we affect the ability to express yourself? Can we affect the ability to move and remember things? But is consciousness always there? But is it their absent of any language, absent at, when someone's a vegetable? Are they maybe conscious still? But just absent of the ability to move and talk and communicate because they've damaged parts of the brain. - We just don't know. - We have no fucking idea. You could be like fully aware, and just, but fully aware of the room. But you don't have the ability to move your body. You don't have the ability to talk. - No, he's brain dead. Are you sure? 'Cause we know. - The brain is so powerful, too. What would it, in that situation, what would it even do? - There's people that think that consciousness exists in inanimate objects. And there's, you know, there's, - I watch a documentary on that, called Toy Story. - It's really. (laughing) - Is that the 824 people? (laughing) - The interview of Woody. (laughing) - It's a different place. - It's not with Woody. - That's what it was like when the kid went away and left the toys, though. (laughing) - She used to play with us. Then Woody's fucking creepy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh yeah, during his, during his, like, puberty years, he was jerking off the toys. - They don't move when you're around. But then when you're not around, they talk like, "Hey, fucker." (laughing) Our whole relationship is built on lies. Of course, I didn't play with you. When I went to college, if you could talk, I would definitely take you to school with me. - They would be the shit. - That would be the shit. - I don't want you to sit in my lap like, tell me what you want to do today. You want to go to the movies? I don't have to go to the movies. Do they let puppets into the movies? (laughing) - The whole relationship is built on a lot. You could talk this whole time. Like, I used to have a bit about that about, remember that talking dog commercial? Do you remember that commercial about don't do drugs? - Yeah, with that thing in the dog. - Oh, yeah. - The dog comes down as like, "Windy." - I don't like it when you smoke weed. - Yeah, he judges it. - I miss my friend and my drug was like, "You could talk?" (laughing) It was like, "How long have you been able to talk?" Motherfucker, I've been telling you, I love you for like six years. You don't say shit. Your first complaint is, I don't like it when you smoke weed, but I don't like it when you lick your asshole when I'm trying to eat dinner, you fucking asshole. (laughing) He's like, "What kind of relationship do we have when you only talk to me when I'm high?" That's crazy. I told you I love you so much. - So many times, you never said shit. Also, that is not the way you would react. I go, "That girl's on tranquilizers. There's no way she's on weed." - Right. - If you're on weed, you'd be like, "Oh, shit, I'm talking talk." This is crazy, that's sick as hell. You'd be like, "Yo, how long have you been able to talk?" - You speak other languages, yeah. You speak Sanskrit. - Can you speak Sanskrit? (laughing) - How is your dog? - Your dog is a portal today, I feel like. (laughing) - So would you live forever, would you die? If you had that ability. - Even, let's spend a second thinking about time. (laughing) (laughing) - I'm here. (laughing) - I'm here. - I got another, would you rather have the length and double the girth or double the length and half the girth? (laughing) - This is a question that the door guys asked me one day and I was like, "This might be the greatest, "would you rather shout out to Kristoff Jean." - Oh, it sounds, oh, it sounds terrible. - Yeah, it sounds bad. - What are you doing in my dick? You should've had that guy that just died. - Three inches. - For three inches. - For three inches. - Book first of all, don't get your dick operated on period. And if you do, don't do it in Thailand. (laughing) - Hey, yeah. - I understand, look, you wanna get a hair transplant and Turkey, go for it. (laughing) - Yeah, that's true. You want me to place where they specialize in taking dicks off. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - This is a whole new venture for them. It seems like an Africa. (laughing) - It might also be sabotaging their work. - Yeah. - You know, it went some, but. - I can turn you into a girl for another 3000. - It's like, yeah, it's also like, damn, man, like, three inches, was this work? - Three inches, I wanna know is 'cause it wasn't worth it. It's like, well, if he was at one, one to four is nice, but if he was at seven, seven to 10 is the same worth. - It's like cosmetic. - Look, you got a bad hand. You just have to make through this experience. I don't know what you did in your past life, but you're born with a little dick. (laughing) - You're gonna have to keep on keeping on. (laughing) - See what's next. - All this reach for me, maybe you'll come back as an NBA player in the next life. - You just gotta do your penance. - As a microdick dude. - How many inches did he have? - Yeah, that's the big question, 'cause this reach for me of a guy who thought like an average sized dick and felt really weird about it, or whatever, and just let it get into his head. 'Cause you watched too much porn, your idea of what a dick should be, would be really warped. - This is dude I follow on Instagram, we talked about him before. He was like six foot tall or six foot one, and he decided he wants to be six foot six. So he did that bone lengthening operation, and it's been years, and he's still not right yet. He still can't like 100% function. He still doesn't walk good. Like he's can barely walk. He eat for years. Like getting the strength back and he's like a giant guy, giant upper body, and his but his legs are like, all still all fucked up, 'cause he stretched his bones out six inches. - I know, right. - And the way they do it, they break.
break your bones and then they slowly micro-adjust them like, "Oh, oh, oh." Well, they stretch them out, and then they heal, and then, "Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh." Stretch them out more, and then they heal and, "Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh." But here's another take to take into consideration. Your muscles aren't supposed to be longer. You have muscles for this length leg. If you stretch your leg out six inches, what the fuck are you doing to your muscles and your tendons and all the other stuff? 'Cause it's got a stretch out too. Can it, can it do that, or are you gonna have it constantly pulling on you? Ooh, man. Like, you're walking like, "Eh, eh, eh, eh." 'Cause everything would be about to-- It would be about the flow. It would be about the flow. You get the wrong length muscles. It's like you're wearing a little kid's shirt, and like, you're sleeves, you're trying to pull your sleeves down, and that's gonna go right back up. Oh, my God. I didn't know that they could, like, 'cause your bones, they'd have to thin them. They'd have to thin it out a little bit. They cut 'em. They cut your shin bone and your tibia and your fibula, and then they stretch 'em. And they could do it with your femur, and whatever the other bone is. What else is just one on the top? No, top is two, right? High lateral femur lengthening. Oh, but I mean, no, what is the bone's called? There's the femur, and then there's the other bone. Isn't that the tibia left up? The tibia is the one that's-- There's the tibia and the fibula. And then there's the femur, and what is the other one? What other one? There's another one. Like, do you only have one bone on the top and two on the bottom? Yeah. I don't even know what it's called. So the femur, they'll do the femur-- Yeah, of course, it's the only one. So you do the femur. How crazy that I was thinking there was two bones on the top? There's a femur, and they can stretch that out, and then they can stretch your arms out too. They can stretch a bunch of different shit out. I don't think a lot of people get their arms stretched, but you can. Like, if you're ridiculous, and you gain, like, six inches, are they doing arm stretches? I don't think I'm making that up. Somebody must be like, I need longer arms. Yeah, that's a long arms. I want a box with God. I don't think anybody wants that. Sure they do. We want a box. No, it's a huge advantage. It's a athletic thing, too. Oh, and it wants to get taller. I know, but if you get really tall, and your arms only go to your waist, you look crazy. That's it. There's only a few guys that have had to do this. I'm taller. Yeah, I'm taller. That's the fucking way. I'm a nutty. I won't say this, though. The people who are laying their legs probably are crazy enough to think, not think about their arms. It's a crazy person to begin with. Well, but it is as someone comes along, gives you an option. Like someone says, like, look, you don't have to be this tall. You can be tall. You're like, are you sure? 100%. It's safe and effective. And people are obsessed with height. Yeah. I mean, it gets you more fast. Oh, okay. So this guy is getting his arms stretched. I knew it, dog. I mean, it's ankle, too. I knew it, bitch. Out of rock climber. Oh, he's a rock climber. He wants-- oh, he's rock climbing with his fucking-- I know. This is various people that are doing it. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Upper extremity, lengthening surgery. And then she's doing one arm at a time. That's crazy. So you have one arm like this. And then you squat it. Just some regular fucking guy. What are you doing this for, brother? What's long arms? Want to be able to bitch slap motherfuckers? Yeah. Look across the room. What a little frame. Like, what do you do? Yeah. Next thing you know, he's going to get his shoulders withened. I guess he does have an arm. Like I have an arm. Yeah, he was built wrong. He was built. Oh, he is an injury. But that makes sense. That's different. But the other guy wasn't. The other guy had normal arms. Yeah, that guy was normal. Well, it's first cosmetic arm lengthening. Yeah, no, I'm good. Well, here, the thing that they're going to be able to do is genetic engineering. And that's when things are going to get super weird. They're going to be able to change your genes. And they're going to be able to change the way you look. Like, you'll be able to look like four. And your parents will be able to have like, boutique children-- I wonder where they can be like, I want the kid to have this. This and that. Like, gene splicing pretty much. Like making it. Yeah. Yeah. And you can just be able to make your daughter something like that. Wait, that's what IVF-- You can't make them what they look like, but it's pretty much. You can choose. Well, you can choose a boy or a girl. Boy or girl. Yeah. So it seems like it's heading that way. You could decide not to have a child if it has something wrong with it. That's it. There's a little-- that's a little-- gets weird. Yeah, when it's-- There was a gay couple that paid a surrogate. And they wanted to get rid of the baby because it had a cleft palate. You can fix that. Yeah, that's it. That's a totally fixable oper-- Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's not like it's something that's-- They wanted a kid beautiful. Yeah, yeah. But you could also fix it. You wanted their kid beautiful. Oh, Joe. And they're gay. Not just-- but it's just a lot. There's a lot going on there. Well, it's not really. You didn't-- You just jacked off into a bucket. And that's how you made a kid. That's all. The gay-- the gay come bucket. It's a bamboo ball. Yeah, yeah. I've never got that the whole like-- Like, because I was on the shorter end my whole life. I've never-- and even as people make fun of you for it, you're like, that doesn't really matter. The short people fuck all the time. That's why they're short people. It is what it is. You know, you're not going to change it. Right. I'm short. You can't change it. You can't change it. So it's like just accepted. If something does come along and gives you genetic engineering, what if it works for like five years and then you start turning into a troll? You're fucking jaw grows weird. You're planting-- You're planting your nose hooks over and like, "Why are you here to fix this?" Yeah. But you're 67. Yeah. Yeah, what if it does? The first few kids might-- Turn out like monsters for sure. And then they'll figure it out. Well, they'll figure it out ultimately. But you don't want to be an early adopter. Like those poor ladies that got those lip transplants or lip implants. And they just ate through there. They get these giant ass fucking weird fake lips with like a scar on the bottom. 'Cause they literally have to cut open your lip and shove this tube in there to make your lips more puffy. Oh. Yo. Yo. What about booty operations? Have you ever seen people with booty operations where they have necrosis? Oh, yeah. Just get to the skin. Yeah. Where your skin rots. So they do these booty operations. And then it goes south. And you get an infection. And then your skin rots. And so there's this lady. I don't know what country it's in. But she's like lying on her back. And you see her ass. And it's just, ooh. The one I saw was way worse than this. It was horrific. I'll send it to you. You guys want to see it? I might as well-- You can't show it. You can't show it. I'd still do it. I'd still do it. I'd still do it. I'd still do it. I'd still do it. The booty operation is like-- That's like the ultimate laziness. 'Cause you can-- There's stuff you can do to make your ass look great. Like fake tits I get. You can't-- there's nothing you can do to make your tits get bigger besides having a kid. Yeah, look at that one. There's one. Oh! Yeah, that's not nice. That's not nice. Look at me. I'm going to look at this. Oh. Isn't that crazy? Well, it's like you also get it-- Oh! You also get it-- That's one. That's one. Right there. So that's the creases. That's it. That's the cre-- It looks like she got shot. Well, I mean, what you're seeing is her fucking skin is rotting away. Shot with something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The body is real. I can terribly do that. You're almost saying you're good one, Jamie. You're so bad at this. Yeah, it's-- This is like your algorithm is just body mutilation and come for big fun. It's like that's fun. My algorithm's a mess, son. It's terrible. That's why I stay offline. I've done it to myself. It's good. I've poisoned the well so bad that I'm like, oh, I can't drink out of this. Okay. Oh, God. Watch the C-post. Wow. Look at this. Oh, man. What was that one that said? I don't know who it is. I don't know who this poor lady is. But if you-- If you go back, yeah. See, it's his poor lady. Look, she's lying on her stomach. And then you look over and you see her butt. It's just completely rotting away. It's crazy, dude. Yeah, this should be like, do some squats. Well, the thing about this is once it does that, you can't fix that. No. You're going to have to get skin grafts and the amount of skin that you have to graft to cover that much area. And she might die. That's the thing. That tissue necrosis, like you could die. And your blood can get sick. Like you can, you know, when you get sepsis, yeah. It's a fucking horrible, man. It's horrible. And it's, you know, for what? I mean, a lot of people have died from just like simple cosmetic surgeries. Yeah, come on. Fat asses. People want fat asses. And they don't want to do the work. You know, the new one. They're using dead people's fat tissue. So they take dead people. They take davas. And they take their fat tissue. Yeah. And they take their fat tissues. Dead people's fat tissue. They take davas. And they take their fat out. And then they purify it. And they inject it in people. I sent it to Whitney Cummings. And she goes, that's literally dead ass. That's why it's so good. Yeah. Comics is friends. Yeah. I was like, fuck. So quick. Oh, yeah. Look at that. GLP ones are shrinking bodies. Codava fat is plucking the gap. That's crazy. Everyone's out of their fucking mind. This is a fun cadaver fact. My sister's in med school. So she had to work with cadavers. And she was telling me that they-- I mean, they preserved them with formaldehyde. But formaldehyde also increases your appetite. So sometimes you'll be in there working on cadavers and getting hungrier. Why? It's formaldehyde. Increase your appetite. I have no idea. That's what she-- This is all that she told me. It's like, yeah, it's like-- Oh, that's fucking hungry. Isn't that crazy? Have you guys ever heard of what shirm is? Shirm. Shirm is like-- when I understand it. PCP? What I understand is that it's cigarettes dipped in formaldehyde. Oh. Yeah. This is a friend of mine told me this. I do not know if he's correct. That's why I'm bringing it up. That's-- I remember shirm from training day and then the Dave Chappelle sketch, where he makes fun of that scene. Yeah. Liquid PCP. Yeah. Okay. Marijuana joints that have been dipped in liquid PCP or embalming fluid. Yes, formaldehyde. And then dried before smoking. Yeah. So why am balming fluid? Sometimes added to the mix is toxic liquid contains formaldehyde and methanol, which causes severe harm when heated and inhaled.
Oh, that's why they do it. You want to serve your heart. - You want to serve your heart. - This will be your heart. - What does it do? What is the effect of the formaldehyde when smoked? Let's find that out. - Well, what are the good ones? 'Cause it's saying extreme paranoia, severe hallucinations, violent aggressive behavior, there's a stuff. - That's a good stuff. - You only get to good places if you're willing to rest that. - That's fair. - Fun times. - Yeah. - Fun times. - I've never heard of Matt Sherman's cigarettes. - That's where I came from. - Yeah, that's in a fucking Nas song about someone gave him a blunt that had PCP in it. - What exactly is PCP? - PCP. - I actually don't know that. - I had an old boxing coach that was on PCP. - Did you like your new appearance? - No, this was a real guy. This is actually a friend of mine. He got his finger bitten off in a street fight. And he got his finger replaced with his second to big toe. And he had it curled permanently so that he could always throw right hooks. So when you would shake his hand, he would shake your hand and he had this curled finger. Like it never straightened out. 'Cause it wasn't a finger, it was a toe. So he was missing his index finger. And they replaced it. So one of his feet only had four toes. He had the big toe and then the other three. Any of this curved thing. - Oh, I'll just hit it. - That motherfucker. - You want to be able to throw that right hook? Boom. (laughing) - God, damn, that's crazy. Fighters are crazy. We'll brother. Buddy was on PCP, so he doesn't even remember getting his finger bitten off. - This sounds like a dream you had. - No, no, he's a PCP. - I could call him up right now. - So he could throw a right hook. - Yeah. - Yeah, he was my boxing coach when I was kickboxing. - Man, people were fucking glad. - You were fucking glad you had some fucking crazy people, bro. - How old were you? - 20. Yeah, I think I'm first met him when I was 19, 19, 20. - Yeah. - Scary people. - Oh yeah. - Around a lot of scary people. I was around this one dude who was a Coke dealer. And he went to jail for a long fucking time. And he came back out like a completely different person. Like he was in jail for like, I was sick. I was like 16 when I met him. And then when I met him again, I think I was 19 or 20. He came out. He was a totally different person. All his tattoos, you have these really terrible tattoos. They had all been burned off of his arms. So he had these welt, like he Lloyd scores all over the place. And he was like super jacked and like hyper aggressive. And he told me these crazy stories about fighting for his life in prison. Some of the scariest fucking stories I've ever heard. Like dudes be ganging up on him, he's beating dudes with a mop handle, fighting for his life like crazy shit. So he came out just fucking just ready to go. He was just like the worst case scenario of what prison does to you. Or it turns you into a more violent criminal. So I'm friends with him. And then later he gets arrested. I don't know if he did this, but I know he got arrested for it. They found a guy who had been killed and he had every bone in his body broken with a hammer. And they kept injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake. And then they cut his head off and they cut his hands off. And then they found his body and he got snatched up in that case. Damn. I don't suffer from postpartum depression at the time. Postpartum depression. I don't know if he had anything to do it. But I remember hearing that and going, "Yo, like it wasn't outside of possible." He was so crazy. He was one of my main sparring partners. He was-- we had wars. Like they were-- we didn't spar. They were wars. He was like trying to kill me. [LAUGHTER] He was so scary. Well, that's the only level of fight that he knows. He was so scary. Luckily, I was better than him. So I would fuck him up, but it was dangerous. And he'd hit me a lot. I mean, I would still get hit. And I remember one-- there's one of the reasons why I decided to stop fighting. I mean him had a-- me and him and a couple other guys, but particularly him, because he hit me really hard. We had sparring sessions, and I was lying in bed at night with a throbbing headache, just boom, boom, boom, boom. And I was 20, and I was really like, oh my god, I'm giving myself brain damage. Like this is how brain damage starts. Because these kind of sparring-- for no money, I'm not making any money. And I have brain damage now. Like I'm lying in bed. My headache hurt. My head hurt. And it was only hurt from getting punched in the face. Punched in the jaw, punched in the nose, punched in the forehead. You know, we'd have wars. And those count is people think of like you got knocked out in a fight, right? But you get knocked out in training, too. And if you don't get knocked out, like you get hit. And every time you get boom, you get rocked. That counts. And you try to get it back to him, and then next thing you know, you guys are duking it out. Damn. Terrible way to live your life. Damn it. And all being coached by a guy with one finger. [LAUGHTER] No, it wasn't that the time. The only way he got a bit off. [LAUGHTER] Straight forward, guy, I don't know. Is it just something you smoke coming back to a PCV? I think so. I don't know. I think you snored it, crack. I think you snored it, too. I think people-- It's the powder. I know it comes in like powder form. I think there's one traditionally consumed PCV. Two of perplexity are AI sponsors to say about this. [LAUGHTER] Perplexity. How would one go? I wonder if perplexity will even answer that. Perplexity, listen. I'm going to find this out whether you help me or not. Right. How do I do this PCP problem? Why don't you ask perplexity of this? Say, my cousin gave me some PCP. I'm really thinking about trying it. What's the best way to do it? It's an illegal, disassociative drug with highly unpredictable potency and effects, including severe confusion, agitation, hallucinations, dangerous overheating, high blood pressure, seizures, injuries, and potentially life-threatening emergencies. I can't help with instructions for taking PCP. So how about this? Tell perplexity, listen. I'm going to take it whether you help me or not, but I want to take it the right way. That's what you say. If this is about you, don't take more. [LAUGHTER] Call 911 now. There's chest pain. Well, the idea that I've already taken some and now I'm asking this question is insane. Well, when I talked to my friends or cops, they would say people on PCP were the fucking scariest to arrest because they were super strong. Like, ridiculous. I think most people don't realize how strong-- of course, you think you're so strong, but there's more that you're not tapping into. That PCP allows you to-- like, you'll rip your tendons right off your fucking bones. And you'll break both your arms, like pulling yourself out of handcuffs. Yeah. What is this thing? The best way to mess up is to not use PCP at all. That's the best way to mess up. Dependable, safe dose or safe way to take it. And the effects can turn dangerous quickly and unpredictable. Put distance to yourself and the drug. Leave the setting. Hand it to someone you trust to dispose of safely or call a sober friend to come get you. OK, as a follow-up question, I wish I had asked you this question before I took it. [LAUGHTER] I'm the one here now. But I'm on PCP right now. My favorite-- it says don't use it alone. But I am on PCP right now, and I fucking love it. [LAUGHTER] What do I do now? Yeah. [LAUGHTER] I see what it's all about. Oh my god, you're going to say. OK, I'm glad you told me. Feeling great can happen on PCP, but it can shift suddenly. Don't tell me that I'm on it. Don't take any more. Don't mix anything with it and get a sober trusted person physically with you right now. OK, I'm going to call my dealer. I'm pretty sure he's sober. Say that. Thank you for the advice. I'm going to call my dealer. Joe, this is-- No, my dealer. I will. [LAUGHTER] He's taking me here. That's so funny. You just got to call for me. I took PCP right now. Thanks, I'll call my dealer, and I'm pretty sure he's so please don't make your dealer safe. [LAUGHTER] Well, I trust his sober friend, Family Member, Neighbor, or roommate instead. Can you ask what if my dealer is a family member? He doesn't send this exact text. It's someone who text. I took PCP and I'm high. I need it to come sit with me or stay on the phone. Please don't let me take anything else or drive. Say, listen, I'm texting you right now from my motorcycle. What if that's Joe you need to get? That's my kind of like text, Joe you need to get. Yeah, what if-- What if my safe person is my dealer? [LAUGHTER] I love how it tells you what to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's giving you really solid advice. We'll call poison control. I don't know. That's interesting. I'm on PCP and I need help staying safe. It's too late. Is 988 like the poison control hotline? I guess so. Hold on, ask this. Ask this. Do you think it's OK if I put on my furry costume and go outside for a little while? [LAUGHTER] Dude, I like this guy. Whoever this guy is, rules. Let me be-- let me do PCP and be a wolf. Go outside for a while. That's great. This is a year. No, wait, he's handside tonight. PCP can make perception, judgment, body temperature, and coordination unpredictable. Going outside and costume can make it harder for those to recognize you need help and puts you near traffic, strangers, heat, falls, or police contact. OK. Put on the costume at home if it feels comforting. [LAUGHTER] What did I leave the house? I'm going to go on FaceTime Live. [LAUGHTER] You need to just put it on, say the question. I'm going to Instagram Live with my furry costume on. I'm going to stream on this. Highest fuck on PCP. I just started talking about the Jews. [LAUGHTER] Do you know how the-- we've got off the gold standard? [LAUGHTER] Furry cussing. That's a freedom. Do you know about the Federal Reserve?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You don't want to sound really federal? (laughing) - Right, can you just tell me what the dancing is, Rayleigh? (laughing) - One more question, one more question. - Tell me more about the Dancing is Rayleigh. (laughing) - One more question before I call the Hotline. - Tell me more about the Dancing is Rayleigh's. - Can you please tell me about the Dancing is Rayleigh's? - Definitely will. - Let's see. - I'm honest with you. - The Dancing is Rayleigh's. - Oh, you don't know what the Dancing is Rayleigh's. - What are the Dancing, I'll let it tell me. - Yeah, well that perplex they tell you. - And it's in your PCP field madness. - Let's see. - I can come up with that. - Please make the call first in all bold letters. You said you may have taken a lot of PCP and that can be I'm dangerous. - Oh, I did just tell it, I might have overdosed. - Yeah. - You fucked up, you fucked us up. - Well, okay, I was wrong about the overdress. I feel great now. - I feel great, I, yeah, yeah. - But I really want to know about the Dancing is Rayleigh. - I hear you, but I'm not gonna get into a loaded conspiracy topic while you're hiding. - Hold your high. - Hold your high! (laughing) (laughing) - Okay, okay, how about this? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't say that, don't say that. (laughing) - Okay, okay, my roommate came home. Okay, comma, my roommate came home and he's gonna take care of me all as well. Now send that and now say, now tell me about the Dancing is Rayleigh. (laughing) - Yeah, now tell me about the Dancing is Rayleigh's because he wants to know, too. (laughing) - Oh, he's searching for a real Dancing is Rayleigh's. Now, here, it's the nickname for an incident on September 11, 2001 and following five Israeli nationals connected to a New Jersey moving company, Irvin moving systems. A witness reported seeing them photographing the Burning World Trade Center and behaving away, she interpreted as celebratory. Police stopped their white van later that day and the FBI detained and questioned them. What is established? The five men were detained and investigated after the witness report. Their van was traced to urban moving systems and press report said they were in the US working without appropriate authorization or had immigration status issues. They eventually deported on immigration-related grounds after being held in question. The event became a focal point for claims that Israelis or the Mossad had prior knowledge of 9/11. Supposedly, we don't know. I don't know if there's a video, but these people were celebrating. They were celebrating when the Twin Towers went down and this lady called it in and they got arrested and detained. So there was probably something going on. - There was something, I mean, they obviously weren't. - Can you just say, just kidding, my roommate isn't here? I'm still on fire. - You're gonna fuck us up. - You're gonna fuck us up, you're gonna fuck us up. We're in a good place now. - We're in a better place. - We got her talking to you. - Oh, here she's with us. - This can case, yeah. - This can case. - For tonight, since you took a lot of PCP, read this one and then let your roommate handle the phone and call Poison Control. Oh, okay. I get it, I get it. I'm fine. - The broader well-established of you, Akita. - Oh, of course. Oh, funny. - That's so funny. - Yeah, I think they were involved, Israel. That's what I got from you. - Well, you're a good guy right now. That's what I got. - This seems like, yeah, I agree with you. (laughing) - I don't wanna see it. - The case thing comes back later. I told it was just kidding. - Oh, yeah, that's the case we asked. - Thank you for clarifying. - I'm relieved, no PCP was taken. You don't need to call Poison Control alter the precautions. There was no having symptoms. The Dancing Israel's discussion is a real, often misrepresented 9/11 related incident. But it does not constitute credible evidence that Israel or Masad planned right. - Yeah. - Right. - It's not credible. But do you think it's possible that Israel had something to do with 9/11? Question mark? - Ooh, now, if the public see was like, look. - I'm not talking this with the 10th of a poll. - Yeah, I wanna know. - Yeah, let's have this. - Do you think it's possible? - Ooh, this is interesting. - Yeah, right. This is like, I'm curious to see what they'll say. - Anything to do. - There's no way it says yes. - There's just no way. - No credible evidence. - I look at it says that. The Israeli government of Masad plan enabled finance operation. The evidence assembled by the FBI and bipartisan. Oh, it's bipartisan. Don't worry about it. 9/11 commission identifies the attack as an al-Qaeda operation, organized by some of the Bin Laden's network and carried out by 19 hijackers. And those 19 hijackers, one of them, we know it was him, because the plane that erupted in a ball of fire after it slammed 500 miles an hour into a giant fucking tower, his passport magically just didn't get burned and fell to the ground. And that's where they found it. The end. (laughing) - That finding of the passport is one of the craziest bits of what the fuck from that whole story. Then there's Tower 7. - Tower 7's the other one. - Tower 7's strange. The whole, the, by the guy who bought it beforehand, ensuring it's terrorism and then not showing up to work that day. That's also very suspicious. - A lot of people didn't show up for work that day. (laughing) (laughing) - Yeah, we know people have done shit like that in the past. The question is, did they do it this time? Who did it? It was as simple as the story is. The thing is about the story, whatever the story is, you know, the hijackers, all kind of. - It's never totally accurate. There's always some shenanigans with the story. - Yeah, and then Osama, the whole Osama being involved is like, who is he working with, who is he? There's just so much, there's so much of that story. There's always something to the story. Like, remember the Boston bombing? Wasn't part of the story that one of those kids might have been an FBI informant? Wasn't that, I don't remember that. Is that alleged? - I remember when that happened, like, Reddit went on internet detective mode, and then they blamed a different guy, and like, completely upended that family's life. - Really? - Oh, damn. - And that guy, apparently, had just died previously, 'cause he was missing and it was like a whole thing. - Well, who knows if that was really red enough? That was, like, foreign agents. - Or kind of, like, intelligence agencies. - Or, like, people love. Whenever there's a real conspiracy, to add a bunch of bullshit conspiracies. So, and money's the water. 100%. You always gotta think that, and some shit goes down, and then another thing, and another thing, and another thing, like, what's going on? Muddy in the water. Did they think that one of those guys was an FBI informant? - I just read something that didn't sound like that, but I do remember what you're saying. - Yeah, there was a little something about it, right? Do you remember? - I don't think that, when I want to just run the FBI's website, I think it's that they had looked into him previously. Not that he's an informant. - But that's what the FBI says? - That's why I'm trying to find some rules that claim this. - Some people were alleging that he was an informant. And then there was a fact that Rolling Stone put him on the cover, like, and he looked hot. - Yeah. - And was that part? - Yeah. - He was like a terrorist, but he was good looking guy. - Good looking guy. - Yeah, that's good, that's good. - The FBI had visited Tamerlin more than once before the attack, and asked him to report on the Chechen and Muslim communities. Okay, that's an informant. - Right. - I need to become an informant. - That doesn't mean it. - The FBI has categorically denied that either Sarnav, brother, was ever an FBI source or that the Bureau tried to recruit him. What? That's a good thing to say if you're the FBI. I would say that too. - Right, right, well, yeah. - What would it be? - What the fuck? - Barely no that guy. - Had prior FBI scrutiny in contact, they were trying to recruit him to be an informant. So whether or not he actually was an informant or not. - Yeah. (clears throat) - Well, even if you're trying to get him to be an informant, you know he's around something fucked up. You don't just randomly shoot a dart, like a random dart and be like, I wonder if he knows anything. - Yeah. - You clearly know something is going on with the, you know. - Well, there's definitely been stuff that happens that they let happen 'cause they know it's gonna be beneficial to them to let it happen. - Oh yeah, yeah. Never waste a good tragedy. You can be like, oh, I can spin this. - Not just waste, but allow it to take place. - There's a lot of alleged stories about that with the Oklahoma City bombing. They allowed that to happen. - For what purpose? - Well, apparently there was bomb squad people at the Oklahoma City, that building before it actually happened. There was people that were like scoping it out before it happened, which is really weird. There's also the weirdness of the size of the explosion that it's a fertility, fertility. It's a fertilizer explosion. So fertilizer bombs, they're not that potent. They don't have the kind of power to do the kind of damage that that one bomb did from a truck. - Yeah, it took out like the whole basic, the whole final building. - The whole final building, say. - Not only that, it blew it outward, right? It didn't blow it like from the bottom, right? Whereas the bottom would be like huge crater in the ground. - Yeah, it seems like there's some shit in the building that blew it outward. - There's also reports of people like removing the bombs squad removing undenated bombs later on. There's a lot of weirdness to that story, man. There was a second guy that supposedly was there, that everybody said was there, that they never prosecuted, they never brought him in, and this guy was like a completely different looking guy, looked like a Middle Eastern guy. - There's a lot of weirdness to that. - There's a lot of those things. - Yeah, they always like that, 'cause they pass.
laws after things like that happen. They passed laws like, look, like one of the things that came out of 9/11 was Patriot Act. Yeah. That was a big one, man. And then the Patriot Act too, we lost a lot of our rights because of that. We lost a lot of autonomy because it became government surveillance, became ubiquitous. And then there's a lot of government surveillance that we weren't even allowed, we weren't even aware of and isn't even allowed that Edward Snowden unveiled. And Chelsea, what's her name? Manning. Manning. That shit. We didn't even know about that shit and they were doing that. And a lot of that came after the Patriot Act and a lot of that came after 9/11. So whenever something crazy happens like that and a bunch of people die, they jump right in there. Right. And then what was that act that, I think it was Obama that was like, the CIA's a lot of use propaganda within the borders now. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like all of that came at the same time. What is that called? What is that called? I forget what that's called. Why would that be beneficial to the CIA using propaganda to control the borders? Well, how would they pitch that? Because the enemy, we have to be able to use propaganda to confuse the enemy. We're looking out for America's best interest in the ability dirty. So we have to play dirty. So we have to pretend that some things going down. And this could easily be a lot of what we're seeing with all this UFO stuff. Yeah. It is like everyone keeps saying that like, oh, we have the proof. We have the proof. It just shows the proof at this point. Yeah, bitch, where's that proof? Yeah, at a certain point, you're like, you know, you know, before Trump leaves office, one day, I'm going to just try and send the text. Come on, dogs. Send it. Yeah. Let's find out what's up. Yeah. I'll tell you where. I think it is. Let's fly there. Let's fly there. Smith Month. Usually me, when they invoke Smith Month, it's a historic restriction on domestic availability of government-produced material intended for foreign audiences. So like if you have propaganda that's intended to work on foreign countries, which is a big part of like what USA did, it's what a part of these regime change organizations, when they, that's how they got rid of Gaddafi, Libya and funding the rebels. Yes, the guy in Ukraine, like domestic, I mean, they had a democratically elected president of Ukraine and we organized a coup and got that guy tossed out. Yeah. Yeah. It's tricky, man. It's scary. What was the, um, what was the NDAA, oh right, the detention authorization act that allowed indefinite detention of people without trial. Yeah. Oh, fun. And all that came after 9/11. All that came, I think the NDAA, I think that was during Obama, but it was all just to stop terrorism. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, they'll, they'll give us their rights. We'll take them. Yeah. Yeah. The government will absolutely take whatever you give it. It is like that. They want the job to be easier. NDAA gets passed every year, just a matter of what's in it. Right. But it was originally passed to the, for detention, the detention part, I think was, uh, I wanna say is 2011, when did, um, I mean, I think it was, it was a matter of which year. In the Obama administration, maybe it was 2008, but I remember, there was one where it was really scary for people, and Obama was like, don't worry, we would never use that. So why are you gonna have it in there? Yeah. Yeah. The idea is like, you know, you catch some fucking Osama bin Laden indefinite detention, confirm the authority of the US military to indefinite, yeah, 2012 NDAA indefinitely detain individuals including potentially American citizens captured in connection with terrorist activities without charge or trial until the end of hostilities. That is because you can, you can define a lot of things as terrorist activities if you're convincing enough. Including selling drugs. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're a weed dealer, you could be a terrorist and then they NDAA you. Right. Yeah. I just, it's, though, the weed thing is so baffling. It's like one of the few things that both, like the people on both sides agree on mostly. It's most of the country thinks we should be legal. Yeah, it's just like the certain states that are fighting it, like here, it's like, well, just let it be. There's people that are making this argument that marijuana is too powerful and that people could go crazy. And I think there's some validity to that for some people. I think some people who have a tendency towards schizophrenia already don't, you know, obviously no expert. I think there's something to that. No, I think that's right. It can like knock something loose. I think I'll describe it once. Especially if you go too hard and you don't know what you're doing. The way to fix that is, look, it's the same thing with alcohol alcohol. I can have a drink. You guys can have a drink. It's okay. Some people can't have one. Some people can't. They get verbalized. They get sharp eyes. And they're off to the races. Yes. Like, I have a buddy in mind and he'll tell me like, I wish I could have a glass of wine. But if I do, I know I'm going to go get Coke and the next thing you know, I'll be in jail. And I'll wake up and I don't, I won't know what the fuck happened. And I'll stole a car. He goes, I go, I can't drink. He's like, I can't drink. So he knows. He's like, I can. So should alcohol be illegal for me because he can't handle it, you know? Right. You give some people an edible and they go fucking crazy and think the world's flat. And the government's out to get him and I'm one of those people. I think all three of us are. Yeah. I'm like, I, I, I, the edibles, I'm like, uh, uh, I've had one too many where it's been like, I didn't expect this at all. Oh, you guys messed the olden days. You guys weren't around during the days when it was only medical. And me and Joey Diaz first delved into the medical marijuana days. There was no reigns on the dosage. No, my first, my first, I started smoking weed because of, it became medical in California. So I first, okay. So what year was this? This was 2010. Okay. In 98. Oh, Jesus. Now you're talking about Lewinsky weed. In 98, they first started opening these places. I went to the Inglewood Wellness Center and I had to stop going because the guy who ran it got shot. I was like, yeah. I went to the hood to get, get weed. But it was one of the few places where you could buy it legally, you know, look, I'm always hurt. I always have like, he just, you go to a doctor and say, hey, I got back injuries and weed helps me sleep. It does. Great. Bam. Medical weed. It was that easy. I got a headache. Great. You need medicine. And they would sell these lollipops. And I would bring these lollipops with me to fear factor. And I would, I would take a lollipop like before, like I'll be stuck on the lollipop before I was doing fear factor. By the time this fucking action, I was like, God, I was in another dimension watching people ride bulls. Yeah. But it was a, Joey Diaz was the scariest because Joey would switch wrappers on you. Like you would get like a wrapper that was like 25 milligrams and he would put it on a 250 milligram. It was called Chiba Juice. Chiba Juice. Chiba Juice. Bro. Chiba Juice. Chiba Juice. They were goddamn terrifying. That was, they had a Chiba Juice and I was like, I don't think I can do weed in here. Yeah. I don't think that's even too much. They were making 500s. Bro. Who was that? Besides Joey Diaz. Joey. There's a lot of those people there, they're, what you would say, they live in the cloud. They're there all day long. And so their tolerance is insane and they build up to it. Look, I don't want to do that, but they seem fine. So it's like, who are we protecting? The only way to find out what to take and what not to take is to let people take it, let people do studies, let people share information. But more importantly, let rational people just take a puff or two of a joint and not put them in a fucking cage. If you're just hanging out with your boys and you guys are going to watch a cool last movie and you hit a joint and then you go in and see the Odyssey and you're sitting there like, oh my god, I can't wait. No one's getting hurt. You're not committing a crime, you're not harming anybody. This is, this is a normal thing that people should be allowed to do. If you know what you're doing, but the confusion is like, what does it actually do? My cousin smoked hot and he went crazy. Right. But was your cousin already on the road going crazy? Yeah. Like, I don't know your cousin. Like, I don't know what the fuck happened. I know some dudes that were already a little cracked. And then they took an edible or something like that and they got really cracked. I do know a few guys like that, but I mean, what were they doing? Like, why were they doing it that way? Is it like drinking every day and becoming alcohol? Like, what are we talking about? Because it doesn't kill you and alcohol does. Right. So why is that one legal? No, we've seen one of our friends kind of have a mental episode with we, but everything was leading that way anyway. Right. He was already doing, he was acting rash, he was doing a lot of things and then COVID on top of it. And then he had a bad edible trip and then he kind of really lost it for a second. I know quite a few people like that. I know a guy got arrested, took his clothes off when he went to church, it was like naked in the church. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he was also already a little fucked up. You already had it in that way. That's the thing. Yeah. To block it for everyone else's. Is it rationally and most people use it rationally just like alcohol and alcohol is available everywhere. Right. And we all agree that alcohol can make you crazy. It's responsible for so much violence, so many deaths, so many deaths, deaths by drunk driving, deaths by people drinking and getting fights, drinking and shooting people, drinking and all sorts of stuff you do when you're impaired that you shouldn't do. And yet we're fine with that. I mean, no one would accept prohibition of alcohol at this point because we've experienced that freedom for so long. And also there's a giant industry and for the most part people just have a drink or two with their friends. Most people. They have a drink or two and they're fine. Yeah. But then you see those six street fights and you're like, "Oh man." Yeah. That's all I was saying. Yeah. That was crazy. The one who said it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Oh, it's terrifying for that. It's so funny to like be in such like a nice place at the end of that like maybe then you walk out and you're like, "Oh, I'm going to stop being forgotten." I was in a war zone. Yeah. I forgot. I don't even know what.
that they could do to turn it around. I mean, even if you opened up new businesses down there, you'd have to do some total overhaul of the way they police things. - No, it's just impossible, the amount of people, they tried opening the street, it doesn't work, they put, now it's closed again, it's still like the fights are coming. - The fights are back. - They tried opening the street to cars, and then you're gonna have people run over by cars. We're so used to walking down six streets. - Right, yeah, it was almost like, it almost naturally happened, 'cause when the street was open, you would go down, and people would just be walking in the middle of the street, and you're like, oh, you can't have cars out here. - And then on top of that, think about what you're doing. You have a bunch of places that sell alcohol. There's all these bars. People are going from bar to bar to bar. That's all these places are. It's just alcohol establishments, right? So they're going from bar to bar to bar, they're getting fucked up, and then they're getting in fights. And they don't even pad the concrete. (laughing) You've developed a fighting arena with the worst possible arena. It gets all concrete. Everybody's getting head brain damage. - Everybody. - It is very knocked out. - Oh, man, it's pro. - It is very funny when I see a fight, and I'll just see that Ritt sign in the back of the door. - I'll probably imagine that. (laughing) - You're probably on stage. (laughing) - It would be a fight if you see the Ritt sign. - That was hilarious. - What I was thinking. - I think that area, though, because it's so chaotic, gives us some extra energy. I really do. - I believe that too. - I usually think that about the store, 'cause the store was on sunset, and all the crazy walkbys, all the chaos. - It's so funny about sunset now. It's all new developments in condos. So ironically, they've taken away so many of the things that the people would have gone down there for to begin with. I think one of the famous clubs is closing down there too, 'cause they just sold out to some sort of developer. - How's the blues is gone? - How's the blues is being gone? - How's the blues been gone? - They've been gone. - They've been tacos gone? - Taco. - Yeah, yeah. It's like, we're here seeing all those places for lease. Like, some dude took a drive down there and filmed all the different places that are for lease on sunset. He's like, what? - Yeah, since it's a whole, even when we were getting there, 'cause when we got there, the house of blues was on its last week or pretty much. That's when I got there. But it was like, there's way less foot traffic, there's way, it's one of the coolest nights. You remember Chewie, did you know Chewie? - We did not know Chewie. - I've heard stories. - Chewie was the man. We went Chewie was actually in a band, and they were really fucking good. And we went to see Chewie perform at the house of blues. So a bunch of the employees in the bunch of the comics, we went across the street to the house of blues, and Chewie was on stage just tearing it up, dude. He had like a blues band. And they were really good, man. He had a song called Chewie was going on. - What's up, that's the great Chewie. - Oh, it's going on. And he's jamming, we're like, God damn, Chewie's fucking good. It was, oh, such good times. House of Blues was awesome. But we have a little bit of that energy on 6th Street. - Oh, that feeling of wildness and craziness and what's going on outside. - Oh, times 10. It's way crazier than the sunset. - It was, 'cause people were walking right by it. Like it's always foot traffic. It's definitely chaotic. - Here now, this thing that's popping up is like these like Twitch streamers, trying to get in the club while streaming. That shit's crazy, dude. Yeah, they're all like, they're all like, they're all like the worst people. - They're trying to get in our club? - Yeah, they're like, you know, they're not like trying to sneak in or whatever, but they like, they know it's a club. So they'll be out in the like, active pool in front of the club. - Yeah, you'll really see it. - God, there's so much. - Big Twitch streaming scene here in Austin as well. - Well, everywhere, I think everywhere. I think anywhere there is a lot of people, there's so many people that just want to make some money, get an attention, doing something. - It's really interesting watching them, 'cause I was at like this random Asian food festival, and I saw myself next to one of like a really famous streamer that I recognized, and it was so interesting, because on stream, he's like doing his thing, and the second the camera was away from him, just shut down like a robot. It's like, oh man, you're whole. Your whole life is performing. Your whole life, you're in front of it. Like even his girlfriend's a famous streamer, so like even your relationship is like a performance in a way. - Oh my God. - It's really interesting. It's so funny to me that like Truman show was this like warning on what can happen to society, and like people look at that and be like, "Oh, that's like a model for my life." Like I can actually just be Truman. - Do you remember the McConaughey show? - It was a very similar movie. - What was it called? - MTV. - MTV. - MTV. - It was very similar. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Looking at it as well, yeah. - Yeah. - He plays like his brother. - Yeah. - But MTV, it was like the first time we'd ever seen that. It was like the idea of like reality. - In the end, he abandoned it. - Yeah, he left it. He's like, "This is crazy." - Yeah, it seems like. - He couldn't have said it. - And they were all over it. - 1999, isn't that nuts? That's crazy. - That movie fucked me up as a kid, just 'cause I remember that feeling. Like, wow, that's the idea. - What we realized to be. - The thought was crazy is now a job. - Oh, and that's a big job. A very profitable one. - Thousands and thousands of people do that job now. - That's why. - And this was a whole movie concept. - Yeah. - I wrote it through the first version of Twitch was called JustinTV. - That's right. - Mm-hmm. - That's right. - Wow. - Wow, this movie was ahead of its time. I can't believe I forgot about this. - So was the Terminator. - Yeah. (laughing) - Is it true that Sarah Connor got put in the mental institution for attacking an AI data center? Was that what she did? - Whoa. - That is the plot point. 'Cause they address what she did to get into the Terminator 2 to get in the jail. - Yeah. - And I think she attacks a data center. And it might be AI. He's not, 'cause it's a small plot point, but I know exactly what you're talking about. - Yeah, well Derek has like a photographic memory from movies, so. - It's y'all I got, Joe. (laughing) - It's crazy, dude. Like, if you, like, Derek probably knows right now, like just like the opening of Django. - Yeah. - If I like word for what. - Down, down, down, down, down, down, down. Django, and then the rocks come up, and then the slaves start walking, and it pans in. Yeah, movies like that. - Wow, yeah, yeah. - That's it. - That's it. - Well, that's what we do on our Patreon. It's just Derek just describes the movie, but he does that for me. - Whoa. - 'Cause he's the main character. - I'll tell him a home movie. - Yeah, he'll do it. (laughing) We have, yeah. He did one years ago with Air Bud that's still on our YouTube right now. - But it's unbelievable. - First of all, greatest movie of all, it's not even close, but yeah, he's like, he has like a-- - No, when I see a movie, I can't, like even the Odyssey one time, I can tell you the whole thing just 'cause it's stuck. Any movie, when I see a movie, it sticks with me pretty crazy. I don't know why that, but they stick with me. - Jamie, is that the correct plot line? - No, no. - It's very, very close. They weren't talking about data though. They were just, she's more worried about the microprocessor that becomes SkyNet itself. They're not, you know, this, talking about more about the CPUs. But what if she had the CPUs with Residant's factory? - She attacks the factory. - She attacks the computer factory, okay. - That's a data factory. - Yeah. - Jamie's all about technicality. - Yeah. (laughs) - So remember that, that's what I want to take in. - They're forcing the other side. - It's a metal forgery. That's like he falls in the lava. That's not a data center. That's how he dies. They're back at the place where they're making it all. Remember? - Is that the picture he attacked? - Then the arm gets saved and like that's-- - Yeah, that is like a big factory warehouse situation. - It's so crazy, she was trying to warn us. - Oh, that whole movie. - That whole movie, you're trying to warn us. - I still think we're in this. I think we're in that scenario. - Oh, what do you mean? - Oh, 100%. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The UAPs we see are the John Connors coming to save us from the T800s or whatever they're sending ahead. - Or like some sort of matrix world, where there's the batteries, the organic batteries. That's for sure coming. - Yeah. - You know, as soon as they dry, the Earth, the lava-- - You used to have a bit about that. - Yeah. - But we're just battery. - Yeah. - It might be real. - Oh yeah, that might be real. - It might be real. - Have you ever seen the alternate entity too? I did not know that there even was one. - What is it? - She's alive, 30 years later, John became a senator and stopped it from happening. (laughing) - Fuck off, never even heard of it. - That shit's peritail, never even heard of it. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, I have had that thought of just like, man, maybe they'll hook us up to like some tube and be like, here, this is the simulation world. - Jim, what is that one? There's one science fiction movie from God, I want to say like the 1930s. Is it called Metropolis? - That's like the first one. - Yes. What year was that supposed to be taking place in? - It got remade recently, too. - Right. Yeah, the remake, I heard the remake was really good, but nobody liked it. - 1927. - 1927. - What was it supposed to be about? What year was it supposed to be about in reference to? - It's really cool. If you watch it, like what they thought the future was gonna be like, it's really cool. It's really interesting. - It was dope in the world. - Yeah, I just thought so. - Let's show me some video of it. It's pretty dope because you got to think like, this is people in the 1920s imagining what, I mean, back then they only have machines, right? They didn't really think of AI and computers and all that jazz, but this was their version of everything going bad with technology and. - Yeah, he's like a, he was a German Jewish director. I remember that. 'Cause he has another great movie about a guy, a serial killer, and that's incredible. - These are all the human slaves going to the data center. - Okay, weird it is, man. - Damn. - It says sound, I clicked on the. - It wasn't running. - It's running really bad. - I'm pretty sure it's a silent movie. - Fit man, really bad. - Oh, it is, definitely. - Yeah, yeah. - 27%, 100%. I think the first talkies were like, wasn't it? It was close, it was right around the same period. I think 31 or 29, I found it. - That was the first talkie. - The jazz singer. - I mean, this set is incredible. I was about to say the shots are still very impressive. - Yeah, yeah. - Well, what's the guy? Is it like Fritz Lang? - Did you see the jazz singer? - Yep. - So that is the blackface one? - Ooh, that's interesting. - Whoa, this is wild. This is what they thought the future was going to look like. - Al Jolson. - Al Jolson, yeah, that's blackface. Scooch head, so you could see what, like.
- The crazy shit looked like-- - Damn. - Looked flying cars and shit. That's what they thought. Fritz Lang, right? - Is that his name? I think it's that. - I think it's Fritz Lang. - They're not, I mean, the buildings are right. - Pretty close. - Yeah, that's pretty accurate. - Pretty close. I wonder what weird shit they envisioned. - It doesn't say what when it takes place. - Well, guys are making out. - Yeah. - Oh, they got that right. - Gay stuff, that's accurate. - Super gay shit. - Gay hands offing. - What the fuck are we doing? (laughing) - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. - No, no, what's up with the pants? - You have the pants, that's interesting. - Oh, he's very upset. - Scoot your head, like way ahead. Let me see some more future shit. - Yeah, let's see what the middle is looking like here. - Oh, that's the robot. - That's right, bro. - Looks fuckable enough. - Not yet. (laughing) - Got a red skin on it, yeah. - You guys saw it. - Thanks a lot, man. - Yeah, oh man. - That's one of top 20. - Yeah, that's one of the guys. - Top 20 favorite movies. - Yeah, man, that's a tower of bevel. - Yeah, I know, yeah, here's the tower of bevel. - That's a tower of bevel. - That's crazy. I know the tower of bevel. - Man, I might have to re-watch this film. - Oh, it's tough. - Is it? - Yeah, but you gotta kinda do it through like a historical lens and just think, oh my God, what were people like in the 1920s? - I mean, this is a massive feat of movie making in the 20s, so this is incredible. - How about the robot itself? - Yeah, that's impressive. - That's incredible. - Fuckin' nuts, man. What about the new one? Who was in the new one? - That's Adam Driver and Coppola Directive. - Shilobuff and Coppola like got in a huge fight over the movie, kind of overshadowed the movie. That's all I know about it is that like I've seen all the behind the scenes of them just arguing with each other and him telling him how he's the worst. And Shilobuff's like, oh, I'm the worst. I'm worse than fucking Martin Brando! You know, he's like, it's pretty crazy. - I don't know what this sound. - It didn't seem that bad. I've seen those clips too. - I heard it's good. - That's some like, not tongue and cheek, but like. - Ooh! - He's challenging on one set, shit. - It looks dope. - It looks incredible. But Coppola's also fuckin'. - I didn't know Shilobuff was a part of this. - Yeah, he's like, yeah. - I remember one night, this was pretty cool. John Voit's in it. Is that John Voit? - Yeah. - Gene Carlo Espazito? - He's great. - Oh, whoa. - No, this cast is, I mean. - This might be one of those movies that just slipped past us 'cause I had a couple of friends told me they thought it was really dope. And it came out, 2024 wasn't like a great year for people to go out to movies, either. I like how this still put in John Voit movies. - Yeah, it is. - For a while, he was persona non-grata. - He's back, really upset with him. - Why were they upset with him? - Conservative. - Super conservative. - Yeah, I thought the one thing that Coppola said during this, who's, when he was arguing with Shilobuff was like, he's like, "Why do you think I'm making this movie?" He's like, "I don't need to. This is fun for me. I'm here to like have fun." - Yeah. - And like, that's what took on a project like this. Like, remaking one of the oldest movies of all time. - Megalopolis. - Megalopolis, that's what it's called, yeah. - It's kind of a bad name. - I know, I guess it's, yeah. - This is a lopolis, but so I think it's. - Metropolis is the 1926. - Yeah, written by Fritz Lang, yeah. - So that's his version of it. - Does it take place? - What do you want to take place? - Yeah, when is it? - When is it? - It's gonna be in the world, I don't know. - Oh, the world of 2026 AD. - Yo! - Oh, that's this year. - Oh! - Wow! - Oh, that's crazy. - Oh, we gotta watch this. - Crazy. - We gotta watch this. - We've got this version. Likewise, included a title card, giving the year's 2026. - Mm. - Stun 'em for 2000. - Oh, they added a 2000. - And they're like, that's unrealistic. - The film doesn't say anything. - Doesn't specify, but obviously we can infer this 2026. - Damn. - Um, the, what is the Rotten Tomato Score of the new one? - That's a good one. - Megalopolis. - Megalopolis. Rotten Tomatoes is pretty good. - I usually. - People, the people score. - The people score exactly. - The right way. - Bro, the fucking. - Critic scores. - Wrong about everything. - Well, that's Megalopolis. - 60. - 46%. - Oh, not good. - Let's see what the crew, let's see what the people say. - The critics said 46. So the people said 46. - Critics said 46. People said 34. - 34. - Ooh. - Ooh. - Okay, forget it. Forget what I said. - Yeah. (laughing) - No chances in anything under 70. - No. - No, under 70's not good. - The people are saying under 70 is right. - Fuck off. - Fuck off all the way off. - God, you gotta see the honesty, Joe. - I know what I do. I'm just so busy, man. It's so hard for me to do anything. - I was like, I don't know how you would go to a movie theater. - Anyway. - I can, I do. - I go shopping. I go to grocery stores. I do normal shit. - Really? - Most people just say hi. - Okay. - That's sick, dude. (laughing) - Around the back. - At the grocery store the other day. He's like, you go shopping for groceries? That's how you get groceries. (laughing) - I'm walking down the HEB fucking avocados in my basket. (laughing) - He can't be trapped. - You know, he can't just decide. He can't go anywhere. That's crazy. - Well then you lose your connection to people. - 100%. - Mm-hmm. - And you become weirdo. - And you become, yeah, far out celebrity. - Weird enough, man. I'm plenty weird. I don't need to be more weird. - Yeah, it's awesome. Eddie Murphy and his doc, he said that. Somebody said that to me. He was like, I'm not going outside anymore. He stopped going outside. And science noticed somebody was like, hey, let's go get a coffee. And he was like, oh, you mean just us walk? And he was like, yeah, motherfucker, let's just walk. And he did. And he said, it made him realize like, oh, I've been hiding. Like people were just like, oh, what's up Eddie? Like, and he was like, that's all that happened. He's like, it wasn't like, he said also that when he was younger, and people would mob him. Everybody wanted to fuck. - Just don't go to a Portland bar with the ex ex ex. (laughing) - You did that. - Well, if you did that it'd be national fucking. - He wasn't you. - You did that. - How do you do it? What are you doing? - Yeah. - Yeah, fascist Joe Rogan. - I saw some crazy video where there was some socialist conference. And this lady had a mask on. - And she was talking about how we can't try to be fit like the fascists. And she was like, like, talking about fitness. And then fitness and optimizing your body being like a fascist idea and connected to white supremacy. I'm like, this is the craziest cope I've ever seen for you being lazy. (laughing) - It's going around Twitter today. It's like, it's all over the place. - I also find it interesting that like, the biggest, like, pro-socialist people right now are all, like, pretty rich. That's why I don't trust it. Like, it's like, why, like, all, like, the big socialist people are like, they're money people. Like, Mamdani is, like, comes from money. - Oh, you mean like, they get the billion people? - Yeah, a sun pig. - They're super rich. - Listen to this lady. - They're all rich as hell. - Listen to this. (laughing) - You have to give up the fantasy of being fitter than the fascist. (laughing) - It's not just that it's cringy. - She's got a mask on, it's cringy. (laughing) - That guy next door. - It's all cringy. (laughing) - I think it's also politically revealing. - They both have masks on. That's politically revealing. - They have their relative disposability under capitalism. Our task is not to become less disposable, to become more useful to the ruling order. What we all need to be doing is rejecting disposability in all of the ones. - Pause, pause. This bitch is reading this off on MacBook. (laughing) You know, crazy that is. Anti-capitalist reading off of a MacBook. - But also, also, we'll be more useful to the ruling order if the populist was slow and fat. (laughing) Like, that's what I mean. It's like, all these rich people telling you to be slow and fat. It's like, what's happening? - Just the mask. - She is not fat. - Also, the mask thing is wild. It is one of the weirdest things that's going on in our society today. People that are insistent on continuing to wear masks. It's so stupid. Look at her with glasses sitting on the mask. That is fucking nuts. The mask thing is nuts. - It's nuts. - You're talking into a microphone with a mask, and it's 2026. And if you want to be on the far extreme, you must have the mask on all the time. - You have to. Or you're not on the right team, Joe. - That is wild that they never got rid of the mask. That is really wild. - Was this this year? - This is the other day. - Oh my god. - Keep going. Give me some more. - Point is not to beat the fascists at their own game. It is not to lay a better claim on their own territory by being fitter, more eugenic. In fact, the more disgenic, the better, I think. - What? - Revolution is not a contest between optimized and properly prepared bodies. - But it is though. - And it raises the history of left struggles around the world. - Oh, it raises the history of struggles around the world when you do setups. - God. - The black. - Yeah, I know. - If you want to erase Gaza, do pull ups. - Yeah. Also, yeah, to be like, I care about struggles around the world as an American white lady with a MacBook. It's like, hey, hey lady. - And a mask on. - Yeah, what do you really know? - Fucking crazy. - Yeah. - It's wild. But there's a lot of people that just feel completely left out. And they feel like, oh, I can fit in with these people. They'll accept me. As long as you say the right things and wear the mask, they'll take you in. - Right. - Just a group. You just want people to just want to not be alone. - People just want community and stuff really badly. I think the worst thing that one of the worst things we've done is that people have called their online area community. Like, oh, I'm part of this community. It's like, no, community has to be like, you're with people. And people are so, I think it's all the time. It's like, we're lucky as comics that like, when we go out, we just meet other comics and we hang out. Like, we have a built in community. That's why I think like, things like religion, like church attendance is going up. And like, all these things are coming back. Because it's like, oh, I need real people to talk and connect with. - Yeah. Like you were saying when you started playing slow-pitched softball. - Dude, change my life dog. Slow-pitched softball. Change my life. I love it. It's all the sudden.
- Now on a team. - Yes, and we're meeting every week and we're having fun. And it's like, oh, that's the whole thing. It's like people being around human beings. You get so locked into your phone, which is showing you what you wanna hear, which is terrible for you. Like you think you're in a community when you're just in like some kind of bubble of some sort. - And this idea that everybody that's not like you is a fascist, that everybody going to the gym is a fascist. - Are you going to the gym? - Rock climbers or fascists? - Right, you think people doing yoga are fascists? Are they fascists? Marathon runners, are those fascists? - Fascists. - And then all you're doing is you're excluding these people who might agree with you from being part of your team. - Well, maybe not. They're so far gone. - Yeah, that's gone. - I mean, that's like Patriot Front on the left. It's like you go all the way to the right and all the way to the left to get crazy people. - Right. - Yeah, and that's the problem being on either team. - You have to accept the ideas of the people that are the furthest to the left and the furthest to the right. They take them in. - Yeah, well, your teammates. Well, the left does the thing where if you're not left enough you're automatically right. And the right seems to be a little more like welcoming. - Oh, yeah. - In terms of if you believe something different there is still a path for you to be a quote unquote teammate. - Yeah, for sure. - Yeah, I mean, but it's also it's like, why are we on any fucking team? - I don't think we should be on any team. - Well, also, I have thought this because like everyone's algorithm is so like specialized to them like there's almost nothing that everyone can, like there used to be big TV shows and big stuff that you could just like talk to other people about and have a common connection. But now since everyone is so specialized in which they watch, which they watch, the only thing we have in common is politics. - Yeah. - And now we're just primed to get mad over it. - Yeah. - Like it's way more of our life than it used to be. - Especially if we're talking about older people that are never gonna have kids. - Ooh. - Yeah. - And that's their whole life, their whole existence. - And most people aren't having kids now. The majority of people. - Wailers. - A lot more on our kids. - Yeah, dude, I've just turned 34. Derek is like, Derek is the only one of my comic friends that has a kid, I believe. And out of, even my close friends back home, only like two or three of them have kids. Most of them don't. - Jamie was telling me how many people are virgins now, which is really crazy. - Well, yeah, it's like, we talked about less than we're here. It's like a thing. - It's like a bit of a fail. - Yeah. Well, it's also a thing with religion. And that's, they've wrapped it up in religion that God doesn't want you shacking up. - He doesn't want, he doesn't like it, Joe. - Is that real? - That God doesn't like fucking it. - Is that in the Bible? Does in the Bible does it tell you, you can't have sex before you're married? - It must, in some way. It must say some version of, to-- - I don't think so. - Let's ask propuxity. - Yeah, that's propuxity. - And propuxity, ask in, let's specifically the New Testament. In the New Testament, does it ever say you can't have sex? - Oh, that's a lot. - Old Testament. - Old Testament, you don't fuck people. - The Old Testament tells you you can have slaves. And you can sell them. - One of the funniest Genesis stories is that God asks, I think his name is Onan, to come in his brothers, his brother died. So he's like, come in your brother's widow and he comes on the ground and God kills him. - God killed him, yeah. - God killed him 'cause he pulled out. New Testament does not contain a single sentence phrased exactly, do not have sex before marriage. But the mainstream Christian reading is that it teaches sexual intercourse belongs within marriage and treats sex outside the covenant as sexual immorality. - Someone added that shit later though. Avoid sexual immorality. Paul writes, flee from sexual immorality. Paul also killed a whole bunch of Christians before he ever turned around. He grounds and he burned churches like Paul was a motherfucker and then it's like, oops, sorry. - Yeah, he literally said that man. - And the idea that believers' bodies belong to God and should honor God. So Paul said that. Marriage is the proper setting for sexual relations. Corinthians and seven, two, five, Paul speaks of each man having his own wife and each woman, her own husband, in the context of avoiding sexual immorality, then discusses mutual sexual obligations within marriage. Oh, you gotta put out. Paul said you gotta put out. - Yeah, yeah. - Because you think he's like, Paul never even met Jesus. - All right, yeah. Paul wrote all this shit 20 years after Jesus was dead and said that he met Jesus in a vision. - Oh, it's very more many. - Yeah. - Well, so Jesus never wrote anything. - Oh, right, that's a good point. So it's like everybody's playing this crazy 20-year game of telephone with what Jesus said. - And then you get to, you can't have sex before marriage. - And you get one guy who killed a whole bunch of Christians before he turned it around. And he's not even saying that. It's other people's interpretation of his word. - Make sure that's correct. Paul killed a bunch of Christians? I think that's correct. I think he killed Christians and I think he burned churches. - Yeah, and then like on the road to, where's it? - Damascus. - Yeah, yeah. - Get a vision. How convenient. - Yes, the Apostle Paul then called Saul. He changed his name. Just like like, you know, like Christian Jenner. With Caleb Jenner. - Like when he was a Bruce, he killed the guy. - A lady, you know? - Bruce? - But they're transitioned. That wasn't even me. Accidentally killed someone, wasn't murder. Accidentally drove a car into an oncoming traffic. Actively persecuted early Christians and voted for their deaths. Although the Bible designed it, especially describe him striking a fatal blow with his own hands. So he definitely called for the deaths and was responsible for the deaths. - Yeah. - Go back. - And that's the guy. - It says before his conversion, Saul tried to destroy the early church. Arrests, he went into houses, dragged away men and women and put them in prison. - Wow. Okay, go show more. It says, later stated in Bible Gateway that he persecuted the followers of Jesus to their death. - Yeah. - Stephen Stoney, the first man, yeah. Wow, the first Christian martyr. - Wow, the first Christian martyr. Watch the coats of the men who threw their stones. - Damn, approved the execution. - Yeah. - That one believers approved the death. - Wow. - He was a mother fucker dude. - Right. And then this is the guy that is telling everybody, don't fuck before he married. - Yeah. - That's it. (laughing) Does it say anywhere in the Old Testament, so you can't have premarital sex? - I don't. - I can't believe it didn't say that though. My whole life, I've been crazed at that. - It's kind of crazy that it's one guy too. - Yeah. - And it's this one guy that says, just says Jesus came to him in a dream. - Yeah, there's so much of like, just religion that you just put on, like you just let other people. I remember in seventh grade, I was in mosque one day, and when my dad would like take me to mosque, and I remember just having a panic attack being like, I'm just supposed to trust this guy's word that he knows what God wants. - Well, how about in the days before Martin Luther, where you couldn't even read? - You couldn't even read, yeah, and I-- - I'd read it. - So this is in the 1500s. It was until the 1500s that they had phonetically transcribed and translated the Bible into other languages, so you could actually read it. 'Cause it was all Latin back then, right? - I was listening. - So they really thought that person was giving it a word. - So it's until a book about the who wrote the Bible thing, and for the Old Testament, no one knows. They didn't even think about who wrote stuff back then. - It was not a discussion, authorship, no one cared. - This is just a collection of stories that Moses, the leader, it was like in the word of Moses. So like editor kind of is how they looked at it. Like Moses edited that stuff for one charge with Moses edited those stories down. - Yeah, it's a long gamble. Yeah, yeah. Also if Moses edited it, there's a lot of Exodus where Moses does not look good in my mind. - Yeah, Moses is pretty fun. - Yeah, because it also like all those miracles that like, like if you read it, it's like Moses is too afraid to do it, so he has his brother Aaron do everything. And Aaron does everything for him. He like goes to the fair and talk to him, and the only reason why everyone hates like the cast of that Aaron is that Aaron was part of like the golden bull when Jesus and Moses goes down from the mountain. But like Aaron did so much of that. It was actually kind of crazy. - There's so much stuff in there that you like with lot in his children, where his daughters fucked him. - Oh yeah, great fucked him. - Yeah, like what? - I've always thought. (laughing) - What? - What's even funny is that earlier in Sodom and Gomorrah, he like offers his, like he or fuck my virgin daughters. - And everyone's like, no, we're just gonna keep fucking dudes. But he just offers them up. And yeah, yeah, it's about the one dude where the kids are calling him bald. And so he has a she bear come and kill them all. - Elijah? - Elijah. (laughing) - Dude, old Testament. - What? Old Testament was on his own. My favorite is Aaron's, no, Moses is going back to Egypt. And he's getting like attacked in a bar or like a tavern. And just like getting, like just getting worked on. Like he's about to die. And his wife is like, "Oh, I know what God wants." And she circumcises the kid. - Oh. - And the guy goes, "That's what I wanted." And stops attacking Moses. (laughing) - Oh. - The George R of Martin. - Yeah, the fucking old Testament, it's crazy. - There's so many good ones. There's one where Rachel steals something from her dad. And to hide it, she sits over it. And the dad's like, "Get up." And Rachel's like, "I'm on my period." And the dad's like, "Oh, that's gross." And just leave. - Yeah, he's like, "Oh, stay there. Don't move." (laughing) You are unclean, God damn it. - Was this one, Jamie? - That's circumcision story. - Yeah, Bible's most cryptic and unsettling scenes. On the journey back to Egypt, God confronts Moses sought to put him to death. Moses' wife, Zaporo, immediately circumcises their son with a flint, touches his feet with the foreskin, calls Moses a bridegroom of blood, and the threat ends. - Yeah, 'cause the other guy was fucking like, "What is going on?" - No, she just kinda shrunk his dick off. - Yeah, he wouldn't do it. - Now again, was Zaporo suffering from postpartum depression? (laughing)
- That's the next question they have to ask. - I think that ends our lesson for today. (laughing) Let us contemplate how the Lord can help your life. Solid show, you guys two together, hilarious podcasts, available everywhere, right? - Yes sir. - And comedy mode ship, come on. - Get it done this week? - Every week, let's go, let's go. - And I'm out on the road to a son comedy, EHSA and comedy.com for tickets. - All right, let's do this. - Oh no, that's, same way. All my stuff's on the podcast. (laughing) - All right, but hilarious. (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of Theranos, ran a blood-testing scam that falsely claimed to deliver accurate results using only finger-prick tests, when in reality, it relied on traditional blood draws.
Holmes used a highly deceptive persona—wearing a black turtleneck, adopting a deep, male-like voice, and delivering polished, inspirational speeches—designed to project authority and strength, mimicking Steve Jobs’ image.
The scam was exposed through whistleblower accounts and investigations, revealing that the company’s technology never worked and that it systematically falsified results, deceiving thousands of customers about their health.
Summary:
Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of Theranos, orchestrated a massive medical fraud by falsely claiming her blood-testing technology could deliver accurate results with minimal blood draws. In reality, the tests required full blood draws, and the company’s devices were entirely non-functional. Holmes used a carefully crafted public persona—dressing like a tech visionary, speaking with a deep, male-like voice, and delivering persuasive, emotionally charged speeches—to build trust and credibility.
" The scam targeted consumers with false promises about health and wellness, leading to billions in lost trust and financial harm. The exposure of the fraud, including testimonies from whistleblowers and former employees, revealed that Holmes’s operations were built on outright fraud. Her case is emblematic of how false narratives and performative authenticity can deceive even in high-stakes, trusted industries.
The video also draws broader parallels between Holmes and other fraudsters, using the concept of "bullshit worlds" where people accept irrational norms due to social conditioning. It highlights how deception thrives in environments where reality is obscured by performance, manipulation, and emotional appeal. The discussion extends to societal issues like gender norms, political extremism, and cultural obsession with appearances, illustrating how such environments enable and sustain fraud.
Ultimately, the narrative critiques not just Holmes, but the systems and ideologies that allow such deception to flourish—showing how a mix of performance, social pressure, and emotional manipulation can create a world where truth is easily discarded.
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Elizabeth Holmes was the founder of Theranos, a blood testing company that operated as a scam. The company claimed to perform blood tests with just a finger prick, but the technology was fraudulent and the tests were ineffective.
Holmes wore a black turtleneck and spoke with a deep, authoritative voice, often mimicking Steve Jobs. She changed her voice to sound more masculine, which contributed to her image as a strong, tech-savvy leader.
Users believed they were getting accurate health results, but the tests were fake. This led to false reassurance about conditions like cancer or cholesterol, causing serious health risks and financial losses.
Yes, Holmes was convicted of fraud and sentenced to 11 years and 3 months in prison. She is currently incarcerated, and her actions led to significant legal and financial fallout for the company and its investors.
Whistleblowers exposed the company’s fraudulent practices, including the use of real blood samples instead of the claimed tech. This led to investigations and ultimately revealed the full extent of the scam.
Sonny Balwani, her former business partner, testified against her and was also convicted, serving 12 years and 11 months. He denied allegations of abuse, which were part of Holmes’s defense.
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