#2548 - Brian Simpson

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Hey, what's up, Joe? What's up, Brian? Here to promote the new special? That's right. Oh, the old special. The old special that is now available on YouTube as well. Now available on YouTube, live from the mothership. Yeah. At the mothership. That has one of my all-time favorite bits in it. What bit is that? Womp. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a- That's one of my all-time favorite bits, because it's such a great arc. It's got a lot of detail to it, and then it comes back around. Oh, yeah. I'll probably never write anything better than that. Oh, it's a great bit. You will. You will. But it is an inspired piece of material. You know how sometimes you're haunted by a bit where you're like- Oh, yeah. And every now and then somebody walks up to you and goes, you know my favorite joke of yours is? And you're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's cool. It's cool. I'm excited, man. We already at like 300,000 views. I'm trying to get a million. Let me get a million. Help me. Well, after this, it'll boost up for sure. And it was really good. It's a great special, man. It's hard. It's hard to- A special never feels like it feels in the room, because you're not in the audience. You're at home. So it's always like- Even a great special is like 60% to 70% of what it feels like to be there. Oh, yeah. When you're there, it's always better. But then it's hard to be relaxed, because you know that there's fucking cameras on you, and you've got to nail this. You know the analogy I use is like, it's the difference between watching porno and then watching those same two people have sex right in front of you. You know? It's the exact same thing that's happening. Right, right, right. It's a- Way crazier. People are fucking right in front of you. Yeah, that's a whole different vibe. Right, right. Yeah. It's hard to get them down. You know, there's a lot of great comics that don't have a great special, and it's just- It's hard. It's hard to nail it. I mean, it's hard to nail it. It's hard to know when to make it happen. It's hard to be in the right mind frame. Yep, yep. All those things. But once you knock one out. Yeah. Once you knock one out. Once you get a really good one. If you're doing- I always like to film four, if possible, and then once you have one in the can, then you're free. Once you have one that's done, you're like, all right, this is all a regular show now. Now I can be free. Well, that's the advice you gave me before. I'm glad I did that, too. But what's funny is- The first one was the one where you're in the music. Because you're inspired, but also there's less pressure. You don't feel- You know you have more chances. Yes. So you're free. You're free. You're inspired. It's just when you have to do one. There's a lot of great specials, like Bill Hicks' Relentless, the one he did in London. God, it feels like he's tense. It doesn't feel loose, relaxed. It feels like he's very aware he's being filmed. You think he only shot the one? I think so. Yeah, because it was a huge theater. And back then, that's what they used to do. Back then, people would shoot one special. They would film one show. That feels- Crazy. I remember when I first started doing Two Days, people were like, God, that's going to cost you so much more. I'm like, better that. Better that. Have peace of mind. Oh, yeah. But then what did I do? I went and did a live one. That I would never do. That scares the shit out of me. Scares the shit out of me, too. That's why I did it. I wanted to see what it's like. If I could do- It felt like a regular show. It felt like a tour. It felt like a total regular show. Now, you prefer that? It's exciting. There's something thrilling about it. Also, I hate editing. I don't want to watch myself. I hate it. I don't want to watch any of my shit. It's good to watch because you get disgusted with yourself and you fix things. That was the hardest part for me. It's hard. Yeah, I mean, all the film stuff took place, but I don't think I turned in the final one until like four months later. Duncan filmed one a long time ago. He still hasn't done anything with it. He's like, I don't want to look at it. It's hard, man. The thing is, what you're going to understand is the longer you go, the harder it is. Oh, yeah. Because you are a different person. Right. You're judging yourself. You're looking back. The sound of your voice, the mistakes you made, the way your hands are moving, the tag you thought of after you wrapped the set. That's the biggest torture. Oh, yeah. Those are the torturous ones. It's almost like the moment you film, you have to abandon it. If you really want to fuck with a comic, give them a great tag after the show. I know you can't use this. Jamie, what were you telling me about Moses? I tell you, we got to save that. Holy shit. Is it hot in here? Is it me? It's a little warm. Let me check that first. But I was outside. But, you know, I just. It's not bad. 62. I just read a thing about this. The CTE Foundation. They just released a study. Basically, they got every NFL player that died between 2016 and 2021. It was like 800 of them or something like that. And they asked their families to donate their brains. So the families donated about a quarter of the family said yes. And like 90 plus percent of the brains had CTE. So the best they can say for sure is that. About a quarter of all those NFL players have CTE. Because it's definitely more than that. Because that's all they gave them. Right. So. But out of the quarter, 90 percent. Over 90 percent. Yeah. You know, they've found CTE in high school kids. Well, that's. Yeah, that's the next one. High school. High school football. All the way up. High school, college. Can I send it to you, Jamie? I got it. I got it because Adam Schefter. He tweeted it and like worded it weirdly. And people got mad about that. Yeah, man. It's spooky. Sometimes I see like an old fighter on Twitter just screaming into the wind. And I'm like, what is that guy going through? There's a study in the British Medical Journal that came out like this week or last week. What were we just looking at? We're just looking at something different. It was on ESPN. Oh, study at least 25 percent of NFL players in sample had CTE. So 878 players. Appeared in one at least one NFL game and died in a six year period. At least 25 percent at CTE. So this is the study drew on samples donated between 2008, 2021. Ninety three percent of which have been diagnosed with CTE. Then narrowed the sample based on when donations were highest. In fact, through the demographic data and information from death certificates, the estimate of 25 percent is on the low end. Yeah. So Dr. Daniel Dennis, if are the studies. Lead author of the study found the maximum possible prevalence of CTE was around 97 percent. But the true rate is somewhere in the middle. Yeah. That three percent is just the kickers. Yeah. Right. Right. It's got to be. Yeah. Right. Like everybody else is getting hit. There's no way. Who's that guy that got diagnosed with CTE? Over here. Yeah. I don't know if he's current. So the thing is, these guys are getting diagnosed now while they're alive. And not just CTE, but. Is it MS? What did Chris, what's C2K have? Chris Johnson. He was. Is it MS, I think? It's the thing that people put ice bucket challenge. ALS? ALS. Oh, Jesus. That's what Stephen Hawking had. There's also a high prevalence of that. Oh, my God. A high prevalence of ALS. But again, it makes sense. You're getting hit in the head all the time. All sorts of things are probably going haywire up there. Yeah. I mean, the amount of times these guys get hit. So everybody thinks about concussion, but sub-concussive head trauma is just as bad. What is sub-concussive? Where you don't get a concussion. You just get banged in the head. And you think you're okay because you don't have a concussion, but you're still doing damage. Oh, yeah. You know who gets CTE? Soccer players. From heading the ball. Oh, yeah. I bet. I bet. How crazy is that? Thousands and thousands and thousands of times. But you would never imagine that a rubber ball could hurt your brain. You would think, ah, it's fine. Boink. It doesn't even hurt. You know what's weird is that, what's weird is how okay it is to make fun of it. Of CTE? Yeah. I know. It's become the new R word, you know, where it's like, it's like you can just say, like CTE is the punchline. This show is presented by DraftKings. Something big is coming. September 2nd, DraftKings Game Day arrives with massive deals, exclusive offers, and an all-day celebration. One app, every sport, all 50 states. 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I feel like she doesn't have good problem-solving skills, because you was three for three on the strangulation, and then when you tried to kill yourself, you used unproven methods. Why not strangle yourself? You are definitely good at that. Yeah, hang yourself. Yeah. So, I don't know if she really wanted to. I don't know. She looks fucking crazy. I mean, you can't tell looking in someone's eyes, really. They're under stress. They're in court. They're gonna be going to jail for the rest of their life, most likely. So, there's a lot of stress, but, boy, does she look crazy. But when you're dealing with somebody that's out of it, you can tell. But she chased her son down. Wait a minute. She chased him down to strangle him. He ran away from her. Did she say that? It's in the case. Oh, man. You know, I think if those ladies could see the crime scene and see those dead kids with their fucking vacant eyes staring up because their mother took their life, the last fucking thing that they saw was their mother standing over them, choking them to death. I don't think they would feel so bad. I think everybody that's saying, free Lindsay. People are out of their fucking mind right now. If she get freed, they should have to let her babysit. The. She's out of her fucking mind. The world is out of its fucking mind. It's like more of these things come up where you're like, this can't be real. This can't be real. And it is real. More of these things. People are showing up in support of a woman who killed her children. I don't care how rough it was. The ability to kill your children is crazy. That's a level of crazy that anyone who has kids, you know how much you love them, what you would do to save them, what you do to protect them from harm. The idea that you can get to a point where you could strangle your kids and chase your son. Make sure that's true, that she chased her son down. I'm pretty sure it's true. People are making up, like, conspiracies that it was actually the husband. You know, that's how badly they want her to not be responsible. Even though she's already admitted it. Well, I think there's conspiracies about every fucking thing that's ever existed. There's so many morons out there with a hot take, including me. There's a lot of dumbasses that have terrible hot takes. Not me. I'm pretty much always right. I'm pretty much always on the right. Did you take the COVID vaccine? Yeah, a few times. And then shut the fuck up. Oh, you think we. You still don't believe in vaccines? Not that one. Oh, not that one. That one didn't do a goddamn thing. It didn't protect you from transmission. It didn't protect you from infection. And it opened you up to a host of different problems. Got me a long vacation, though. The. Yeah, I think we need another one. We need another pandemic. I want to stay in the house for six months. Just stay in the house for six months. Look, if that's what you like to do, then just do it. Yeah, but I don't want to feel guilty about it. So you're like Fauci. You want to sacrifice the entire world for your own benefit. What did he get out of it, though? A lot of fear right now. That's what he got. That guy doesn't. He doesn't sleep right now. You can see the look on his face when he had to testify and plead the fifth. He feels the weight of what he did because the world knows what he did now. But what did he do? Well, first of all, he funded gain-of-function research when it's illegal. So when they. When Obama put a stop to it, he went through the EcoHealth Alliance and they backdoored it. And so they funded this creation of these new virus. They took a virus and make it more transmissible and more dangerous. What was the purpose of that? Who knows? Okay? There's a lot of people that think it's weapons and that this is biological weapons research. And what they're trying to do is develop specific targeted viruses that they can inflict on a population. We know they have done that before. They've experimented with certain bugs and infect these bugs with diseases and then drop them out of helicopters onto civilization so that it wipes out people and wipes out their medical system. Everybody gets sick. They know they did that on Plum Island, which is right near where Lyme, Connecticut is. And that's the suspicion where Lyme disease came from. Lyme disease. This is why it's called Lyme disease. Because it first started. People started being diagnosed with it in Lyme, Connecticut. And it's literally like a hop, skip, and a jump from Plum Island where they do this fucking research on bugs. Where they take bugs and infect them with different diseases to make them, you know, so they can use them in warfare. That's the idea. The idea was that they would, say if we're going to war with a country, you fly overhead, dump all these bugs that are infected. People get bit. It starts to spread. It gets in the other bugs. Their medical system gets overwhelmed. Their fighting age population gets overwhelmed. Scary shit, man. These motherfuckers have been doing this kind of research for a long time. But it's like, look, if you're a comedian, you. Your phone's ringing. If you're a comedian, you tell jokes. If you're a fucking researcher, you do research. And if you're a researcher, your research is gain-of-function research to me. And by the way, they never came up with a cure for any of these things. The idea is we're going to study these diseases, then make them more transmissible so we understand how to prevent infection and how to cure people. They didn't have a cure. When COVID got released, they had no fucking idea what to do. The whole thing was a mass fuck-up. Either on purpose or by accident, but either way, Fauci lied. And he lied through the entire media thing. First of all, he lied about the miscarriage risk for women in the first trimester in a text message. You gonna have them all? Yeah, for sure. In a text message, he talked about how the cytokine storm during the first trimester seems to. There seems to be a signal that indicates a higher risk of miscarriage. And then months later, he's on TV telling it's totally safe for pregnant women. In fact, it's more risky for you to get COVID. What's the cytokine storm? What is that? Cytokine storm is a reaction to the vaccine, and I don't know the specifics, but I know that this is exactly how he described it. And that particularly during the first trimester, I mean, there's like a high risk of miscarriage. It's very high. I know five women that had miscarriages after they got vaccinated. They got pregnant, got vaccinated, had a miscarriage. And he knew about it. He fucking knew about it and lied. He lied about the transmission. He lied about the risk for children. He lied about everything. The necessity for children to get vaccinated. Is he lying about that? No, because Biden gave him a full pardon for all crimes that he may have committed from 2014 to 2024. He gave him a 10-year pardon for the first time ever where someone's been pardoned where they're not convicted of a crime. Usually when you're pardoned, it's like, you know, you did a little of this, you did a little of that, you went to jail for tax, evasion and whatever. And then the guy gets in and goes, ah, he donated to the Democrats or he donated to the Republicans and he's a good guy. I'm leaving office. I'm going to let this guy out. And people are like, hey, how did he get out? They yell for a couple of days. Then it goes away and then you live in Florida. That's normal. Right. But this is different. This is different. He pardoned a bunch of members of his family that had not been convicted of any crime or even accused of any crimes. He pardoned his son. He pardoned the Fauci ones, the big one, though, because that's 10 fucking years for 10 fucking years from 2014, which is when Obama put the moratorium on gain of function research. Obama came in. It's like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, why are we making viruses more dangerous? No, we're not spending money on this. Obama stopped it. And then when the Trump administration and he kept doing it through EcoHealth Alliance. But then when the Trump administration came along, it was all fucking chaos in 2016. And it's very important. That we do research on these viruses to make sure that we're protected. And so Trump is like, sounds good. I like it. And then it gets through. I don't know exactly if that happened. I know that Obama put a moratorium on it in 2014. I know he's accused of going through the EcoHealth Alliance to fund gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute. Is he in the Epstein-Faust? I don't think so. He likes killing people. He doesn't like fucking them. Oh, guys, he's a scary dude. He's a scary dude, man. I mean, this is the same dude during the AIDS crisis that was giving people AZT, which killed people quicker than cancer when they were using it as a chemotherapy drug. They stopped using it as a chemotherapy drug because it was killing people quicker than the cancer was. But it was already approved. So when AIDS came along, they're like, look, instead of going through this long trial to come up with a medication and you have to go five years, all this fucking shit you have to do to get FDA approved. Well, we've got a drug already. Let's just start using that. And they started using AZT, a toxic chemotherapy drug. And they used it for people that were asymptomatic. So people who had no symptoms, but they tested positive for HIV, they gave them AZT and they were dead in six months. I wonder why didn't we lock down for that? If we'd all stopped fucking for like a year and a half, we would have got AIDS up out of here. Something big is coming on September 2nd. DraftKings game day arrives with massive deals. Exclusive deals and an all-day celebration built for sports fans. The countdown has begun. All roads lead to game day. The DraftKings sports app is now live in all 50 states. DraftKings game day is yours. Remember the date, September 2nd. DraftKings game day is the kickoff of a new season. A new era and the biggest day in sports history. Get pumped. Get ready to celebrate. New DraftKings customers. Sign up with code ROGAN. The crown is yours. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. 1-800-MY-RESET. Connecticut, call 888-789-7777. Or visit ccpg.org. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino in Kansas. Bet tax. Pass through. May apply in Illinois. 21 and over. Void in Canada. Availability varies. Limited time offer. I have a sneaking suspicion that there's a guy, he died recently. The guy, Peter Duesberg. Who was out of the University of California, Berkeley. When did he die? He's about the guy that, uh. He, he was, uh. Had a bone marrow transplant? No, no, no. He. Earlier this year, January. Earlier this year. Should have had him back on again. I had him on early in the day and people got so mad at me. So he's a professor of biology at the University of California, Berkeley. Tenured professor, so they couldn't fire him. And, um, but lost all his research grants. Lost everything. Because during the AIDS crisis, um, he pointed out that all these people that are in the gay community that are suffering from, you know, air quote AIDS, are also hardcore drug users. They're all party drug users. They're all using amyl nitrate and crystal meth and they're all, they're destroying their immune system with this stuff and then they get HIV. His contention was that HIV, and I don't know if this is true, I'm sure a lot of people disagree, but I'm just saying what he believed. His contention was that HIV, and I don't know if this is true, I'm sure a lot of people HIV was actually not responsible for AIDS but was, in fact, a weak virus that was only showing up in the immune systems of people that were already compromised. So these people were severely compromised because they were heavy drug users. And that's what was fucking up their immune system. That's what was fucking up their life. So he said that in the 80s? Oh, yeah. There's tons of articles. I mean, he printed it. I think, God, it was like, was it Spin Magazine that had this whole thing about it? He wrote books on it. But he was basically rendered persona non grata. He was basically lost all his grants, didn't have any, you know, no students wanted to, like, study under him. He was a pariah because of his position. They said it was homophobic. They said all these crazy things. But he was saying, look, it has nothing to do with gay or straight. What I'm telling you is this group of people that you're attributing this disease to also are hardcore drug users. You're not seeing this. Like, when they say AIDS. Do you think they're testing all those people for HIV with a fucking, with a PCR test? No. They're malnourished. They're dying of starvation. So his theory is that you have to already have a weekend for your HIV to progress to AIDS. Exactly. He was saying the reason why these people have HIV is not because they have, HIV is killing them, they have AIDS. Their immune system is already destroyed, so that's why HIV is not fought off by the body. It's very weird because he's full of shit. OK, we know he's full of shit. He's a liar. He's a proven liar. He lied about the gain of function research. He lied about the transmission, lied about the infection of the potential of the vaccine to stop infection and transmission. He lied about how deadly it was for kids. He lied about the death rate. There's proof of all of this. I remember when you sent me that book, it was like, I forget, who wrote that book? Which one? RFK Jr.? The real Anthony Fauci? Was that a book you sent me? Like, this was like during the pandemic or right after the pandemic. Probably. Yeah. You got to read this. Probably. That was it. I never read it. You should listen to the audio version. It's really good. I just don't think he's that interesting. Who? Fauci? Yeah, because he's not. Well, here's something that should interest you. He used this AIDS vaccine on foster kids in New York and killed them. Really? Yes. They experimented on foster children in New York State and killed them with this vaccine that he was trying. He was trying to develop a vaccine for, air quotes, AIDS. And in doing so, he killed a bunch of kids. So why they can't put him in prison? Why would they put him in prison for that? Because no one's chasing after him for that. No one's chasing after him for anything other than the most recent thing. But the more you dig into this guy, and if you read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr., that book is fucking horrifying. Well, if they start locking people up for what they did to foster children, there's going to be a lot of motherfuckers going to prison. Right. Yeah, I bet you that's where they start experimenting. Of course. They have no parents. They have no parents and their children, and they can't say shit. Right. No one's going to believe them. They didn't know better, and they tell others, this is going to make you feel better. Exactly. Yeah. And they're probably already troubled, and they probably already have health problems because they're probably not getting good nutrition, and they're probably under stress all the time. And fuck, man, their parents were drug addicts or alcoholics. That's a distinct possibility. The book is horrible. And I always say, look, if it's not true, why hasn't anybody sued him? That's a good point. I mean, he's the head of HHS now. I mean, I don't think he's wrong. And I had the same opinion of him that a lot of people have. You don't think who's wrong? I thought RFK Jr. Oh. I don't think he's wrong. I think it's very well researched, and I think he's telling the truth about all this. And when I was a quote-unquote liberal when I was living in California, I thought he was a kook. When he was talking about vaccines and all this, I thought he was just an anti-vaccine, anti-science nutter that also happened to be a Kennedy. See, that's how I feel about him. Because you don't pay attention to what he says. That is a good point. Yeah. It's not. Because it's hard to listen to. Yeah. It's hard to listen to him talk. Well, if you hear his voice. Yeah. But the thing is, the book is written, and then someone else reads it. So it's not he. That would be torture. When you talk like that, and then you say some crazy shit, you sound like a troll or something. Well, the thing about him that's really interesting is he was a well-respected guy for the longest time because he was an environmental attorney. And what he was doing was stopping corporations from polluting rivers. Like, he's responsible for cleaning up the East River in New York State, in New York City. He's literally responsible for that. Like, he held those, he went to court, he held those people accountable, made them clean it up. Like, he was a legit guy. And then these women kept showing up at some of these events that he had where he would give speeches on the toxic poisons, mercury in the ground, all these different things that are the problems of pollution that enters into communities. And these ladies started saying, you need to look at mercury. And he was like, what? Fucking crazy bitches. I'm not listening. And, like, this woman literally showed up and said, I'm not leaving unless you read this. and he's all right well let me let me look at it and then he started looking in he was like holy fuck and then when you see the the when they rate first of all the biggest mistake they ever did was give these vaccine manufacturers complete so is he the reason we don't use mercury in the vaccines anymore oh i don't know i don't know well they use a different kind of mercury and then they started using them they use use methyl mercury and ethyl mercury i forget which one and one of them they said uh it's it leaves the body quicker but the problem with that is it also crosses the blood blood brain barrier like any amount of mercury is bad then they start using aluminum you know the way you know how a vaccine works i mean generally roughly yeah so you have an inert um virus and then you have an irritant and the irritant is like aluminum and your body reacts to that and then recognize the virus and builds immunities towards that virus the dead virus that's in in the vaccine and um they were using mercury as this irritant as this thing that causes this immune response and mercury is fucking terrible for you did you see the thing they um they just found something it's gonna be it it potentially could be the first uh the first thing in history to be the to be the cure and its own its own vaccine they found like frog venom yes oh yeah i'm sorry no bacteria in a frog yes gut yes uh something americanus i forget what it was here's one thing important before we get off the vaccine uh autism thing the guy who wrote the study that's often quoted about vaccines not causing autism just got arrested for fraud the guy that's often so the scientist whose paper they quote when they say here's the proof that vaccines don't cause autism pull see if you can find that article he just got arrested for fraud what kind of fraud we're going to find out um but people are going to find out that they're people around fauci this is what's interesting that don't have a pardon from biden are going or getting arrested now and that's interesting they're being tried and they're being charged so it's going to get weird and that guy he feels the heat autism vaccine richard arraigned in the united states danish physician co-authored work demonstrating no links between childhood vaccines and autism and what is he arraigned for co-authored key papers demonstrating no links between childhood vaccines autism was arraigned on federal wire fraud and money laundering charges after his extradition from germany the department of justice said he was a co-author of a 2002 study published in the new england new england journal of medicine that offered strong evidence based on a cohort of 500 000 danish children that refuted the hypothesis that measles mumps and rebellion vaccination caused autism who hasn't done a little money laundering yeah um he's a dirty guy and he probably was getting paid to make that study and that there's a long history of scientists doing that all the way back to the scientists that were paid off to uh by the sugar industry to show that it was uh it was cholesterol and saturated fat that was causing heart attacks and not sugar they pay these guys fifty thousand dollars that's it that's it in like whatever year it was and these guys fucked us up man you can get a couple senators for fifty thousand dollars oh you get a lot of people you get a lot of people for 100k that's the that's the right amount well what are they what have they done here in texas with the fucking thc ban who's asking for that when 70 of the state wants it to be legal and somehow or another they made it illegal and the alcohol lobby is involved and they've been losing money you know alcohol companies are losing money right now people are drinking a lot less texas runs on drugs it's crazy the people that pretend like pretend otherwise it's like everyone's always on something well if they're not on something illegal they're on something legal and that's what they're doing yeah that's where it gets weird like who decides what's legal and what's not legal like all the border states get high yeah yeah i mean not i mean all the states get out but the border states especially with that's where the drugs are coming in listen you could just go to the doctor and say i can't concentrate and they'll give you adderall yeah it's so easy to get adderall they'll put you on some powerful shit they'll put you on speed you can crush it up and snort it and it's totally legal yeah i mean half the college students are like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i mean half the college kids they're gonna add a roll and check half the high school kids high school kids are saying they have add and they're getting adderall i know this for a fact the thing is i do have it but i don't i can't take that shit it fucks me up what do you mean you have add i've been i was diagnosed with that shit and i was like what does that even mean i don't know i don't even think it's real but all every time they've tried to give me medicine for it i was like i don't like this i think it's just you think different than other people that's all it is and you you're bored with stupid stuff and you're bored with stupid stuff and you're bored with that you don't want to pay attention to but you could focus like a motherfucker when you like something right oh yeah yeah it's a superpower when i like something or when there's a sense of urgency like if it's like oh it's gotta happen right yeah yeah when you actually have to do something other than you have some shitty job where they tell you what to do like fuck this i don't know you have add you can't focus no but yeah the problem yeah i don't have a problem focusing i just it's just what i can focus on yeah exactly it's like if it doesn't if it's not interesting to me then i'm not gonna do it that's not a disease man it depends on who you ask that's the problem you know it's a disease when your boss wants you to do something what the fuck is wrong with you know i got add or when i gotta fill out an application i'll tell you that if you had to fill out a form to get into heaven i'm gonna be burning up in hell i hate paperwork like i just can't fucking do it i just can't fucking do it yeah that's not add like i really gotta i really got well no this is this is just a separate pet peeve i really can't because it's always for no reason it's always someone asking you information that they already have right they'll mail a form to your house and you got to put your address on it i get crazy when i go somewhere and like you want to buy a tire or something like that and they want can you give us your email address like no you don't believe in add at all no i just don't think most people have it no i think most people just don't want to concentrate on the things that are boring to them and i don't think that's a disease listen you could use a little discipline and it'd probably be good to learn how to count there's some stuff that's good but the the actual disease like what does that mean it's a disorder the disease okay kind of difference okay disorder but but even a disorder by whose standards by society standards it wants you to have a boring ass job that you don't like or concentrate in boring ass classes that you're not enjoying he can't concentrate he's got add the fucking class is boring i bet if you get that kid in front of a video game he can concentrate on the boring ass like a motherfucker they probably they probably call it a disorder because most people don't have that problem i don't think most people don't have it i think a lot of people yeah yeah i think if you go to the doctor they'll tell you you have it like even the kids that was get their ass beat they still can't focus like you know they call it they let your mama come in class and watch you yeah but they're just bored man they're bored it's not a disease if you give those kids something they like like it's a game that they like i bet if there's a sport they like to do i bet they love that i bet they're like focused on that school is fucking boring it's boring and it's frustrating for children that are filled with energy to have to sit down i remember this guy um i used to listen to what was his name tom hartman i think but he he i remember hearing him talk about a school they they had way back in the day in the northeast that would like before they started calling it adhd but they would go get these kids that couldn't focus and they would put them all in this one school and they talk completely differently like they would let you they would let them kind of just do like if they had a question that's when they would learn whatever they needed to learn to answer that question they didn't it wasn't like a super structured curriculum so they got to only do what they were interested in and they would have to learn the basics before they could you know finish whatever they were actually interested in and it worked out i don't know why i forget why it ended up getting shut down but it was almost like professor x's academy you know they would go find these weird kids and bring them all to this one place but that like you said it doesn't fit in the curriculum it doesn't fit in the curriculum it doesn't fit in the curriculum standardized this episode is brought to you by uber eats big news aldi is now on uber eats and you get 20 off your first grocery order with code new aldi 26 so whether you're stocking up for a summer barbecue grabbing burgers buns and all the sides or you're just doing your weekly grocery haul aldi makes it easy to get great prices delivered fill your fridge in just a few taps and get 20 off your first aldi order on uber eats for orders over 60 you can save up to 20 ends december 30 20 26 terms apply see app for details ag1 has been a long time partner of the show they've 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Whichever you go with, your body will thank you. Go to drinkag1.com slash joe and for a limited time, save 20% on your first subscription order of AG1 Next Gen or AG1 Pro. That's drinkag1.com slash joe. You know, school isn't for you to fucking get smart. It's to teach you how to be a worker. Exactly. And it was developed by the Rockefellers for that specific reason. Really? Yeah, it was engineered to turn you into a worker. It's not to educate you the most effective way possible. It's to make sure that you can get a job. It's like they just want to turn you into someone they can use. Well, then now they're shipping all the jobs overseas. The problem with whenever the pharmaceutical drug companies are involved, they have such a grip on the media and such a grip on the medical establishment. There's so much money involved that they will come up with disorders that they need to medicate you for because they're extremely profitable. And that's the problem. Yeah. I mean, but that's everything. That's every industry. But it doesn't mean Adderall's not awesome. I bet it's great. This is, like, I feel like the world is just a series of scams. There's a lot of that. It's like whatever scam are you in on? Yeah, I mean, everything's kind of a scam. No. No? Not everything. Farms aren't a scam. We're a nation of scammers. You give people money, they give you eggs. That's not a scam. There's a lot of things that aren't scams. I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen. If you could buy eggs directly from the farmer, then you're not getting scammed. The thing about money and power is at the highest levels, like when you get into government, when you get into enormous corporations that can affect government, then you're going to get a lot of scams because they're just trying to make as much money as possible. That's the problem. Like, I don't think it was ever intended for a politician to be, like, your job, for a senator to be, like, a lifetime. Lifetime. Crazy. And then all of a sudden. You have hundreds of millions of dollars through a method no one could really explain why you're so good at the stock market. Yeah, and if I just follow all your, mirror all your stock trades perfectly, yeah, regardless of party, somehow I get. You ever talk to DeRosa about it? No. DeRosa used to work for the Senate in Texas, and he's got crazy stories, crazy stories about how much money these people are getting, donations and this and that and go and do this and go and do that and getting paid to do this and paid to do that. That's most. Most of what their job is, is fundraising and collecting money from people. Oh, yeah. And I made the mistake of, because I, you know, I never give politicians money, like, ever. It just doesn't make sense to me to give a rich motherfucker money. Like, I need your money. I need money, right? I need you to go get me. But I don't donate to them, hardly ever. And I made the mistake, I sent a politician money recently, and then they just never stop asking. Just every week. As soon as you put your email down, they just, from every week, they're like, guys, we need, I just need one more dollar. I was like, I'm not giving you no fucking money. They were trying to, they were trying to raise money for the Democratic Party right after Kamala lost. They were sending out emails. Well, they're always all in constant, that's why, that's why, that's why the political parties need to constantly keep you scared. Because that's the only way they can make sure. Well, you give them money. They tell you the sky is falling. Hey, if we can't defeat them, it's the end of the world. Yeah. Yeah, it's a dirty business, man. Yeah, there's people that are struggling that are still giving politicians money. Have you seen those people that aren't really giving politicians money, but they're listed as giving politicians money? And they think it's like NGO money, that they've funneled money through pretending that these people are donating money. And so they can use NGO money. And then funnel it into these political parties. And then they knock on these people's doors. And they say, hey, did you donate $25,000 to the Democratic Party? And they're like, no, I don't have $25,000. But they donated at one point in time many, many years ago. So they have their name on a list, non-governmental organization. So this is one of the things that Doge, when Elon came in and cleaned up all this USAID stuff, this is part of what was going on. A lot of it is just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're taking a bunch of government funds, and you have all these different non-government organizations that get money from the government. And then the money is moving in this very cyclical way. And one of the ways they think they were doing it was finding a bunch of people on these lists of people that had donated before and then attributing money to them that they never donated. So if you gave them $5, they would say you gave $100. Well, they weren't even giving any money. But they were using it because they don't get like a receipt. So they just said, oh, billion. And then Billy Smith donated $25,000. And then they knock on Billy Smith's door. Did you donate $25,000 to the Republicans? Like, fucking no. What are you talking about? So they were just using the fact that they had this guy on a list. They had all this money that Elon was talking about. Billions and billions and billions of dollars. It was written that they have no receipts for. They have no idea where it went. And some of that is like moving around. Some of it's going to Ukraine. Some of it's going to. I bet you that motherfucker got a rude awakening. Actually, I remember talking to you about this. I didn't hear about when he first started doing it. And I was like, as soon as he starts fucking with that real money, he's going to be up out of there. Oh, yeah. I thought it was going to happen when he went to the Pentagon. But it's like, as soon as you start. You can't. You're not allowed to fuck with the real scams. Right. You can do the surface stuff. You can do stuff that helps poor people. But you can't. If you start fucking with rich people money, they're going to get your ass going. Well, he was saying that when you get into like the Medicaid fraud, he was legitimately worried that he was going to get killed. Because there was so much money. There was so much money. There was so much fraud. You don't hear him talking about that shit no more, do you? Well, you know what? It cost his company a lot of money. It cost his political reputation. There was a lot. A lot of people turned on him after that, where he was like a free speech freedom fighter before that. And, you know, and this guy who is just like, you know, people loved him. They loved the fact that he's our modern day Nikola Tesla. He's the guy who's making electric cars and rockets and all these different things. I think that. He's going to like getting it, getting in bed with politicians is going to always fuck you over because they use people. They don't give up. They're not your friends. That's true. Yeah. As soon as you ain't useful no more, they throw you in the fucking trash. But if you don't get in bed with them, somebody else does. And then you get fucked. And that's what people get scared of. They're like, well, listen, there's a reality here. If I can affect it in a positive way, I probably should. And the USA thing was wild because, you know, you think of USA. And you think of it, you know, Mike Benz is now I'll send you some shit if you're interested. But he's the most he's done the most extensive work on USA. And what he basically said was USA was for things that were too dirty for the CIA. And a lot of it is regime change overseas. So you think of USA as aid. Right. Right. It's not. It's agency for international development. It's a regime change organization. It funds rebel groups in other countries. It funds. Rebel groups. So it's like a it's a front. It's a front. Yeah. And it's not just one front. USA funds who knows how many NGOs, who knows how many and non-governmental organizations. India has some fucking insane number of NGOs. The number of NGOs are so crazy. It's like one forever million people in India. And there's a billion people in India. So it might be crazier than that. It's crazy how many NGOs are. So there's so many companies. It's so many non-governmental organizations. It's so hard to keep track. It's so hard to keep track of it all. Again, I'm butchering this. I don't have the facts available at my fingertips, but I could send you some of the Mike Ben stuff. But the purpose of the NGO is to funnel money. Funnel money. OK. Not always. I mean, some of them are sure. I'm sure actual charities. There's good people out there that are involved in charities. You know, there's there's good organizations. Sea Shepherds. Awesome. They're awesome. What do they do? Those are the people that are trying to prevent whaling, trying to bust people whaling. Because like some countries, there's a way they can get around whaling by saying it's for research. I think Japan. Japan does that and they bust them and then they're using them commercially. They kill whales. And these guys do a great job. I mean, there's there's there's real charitable organizations that are real doing real philanthropy. The real good people out there. But then there's also scumbags. And they realize that there's a lot of this money flowing around, you know, for aid. That's what you kept hearing. Oh, these children are starving. Listen, man, you need to look at what the real money was going towards. And you'd freak out. You'd freak out. A lot of his regime change. You've seen that meme of the guy that was like, corruption is not bad. And only when I am not involved. You know what I'm talking about? No. He's like. Who's that? Idi Amin? No. No. I don't even. I don't think he was a famous dictator or whatever. He was like this African politician. He was just saying. Just telling people on the news like corruption is not bad. Let me hear this dude. Let me hear it. Start it over. Back it up. I'm part of that corruption. Corruption is not bad. Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved. Yes. But if I'm part of that corruption, I'll defend it. Okay. He's not talking about him. I guarantee you that guy is talking about people who are corrupt, who defend corruption. Really? I think they're taking him out of context. I don't think he's really saying that. You know what's funny? I've actually never looked into it. If I thought about that, that guy doesn't look like a scumbag. The way he's saying it to me. It's my instinct, I could be wrong. - Who is he, Jeremy, you know? - Watch him, he's a massive fiend. I'm totally wrong. Human rights activist, Samson Owimba Ojaiyo. Thank you. Thank you. What's the context of that quote? Listen, he's a human rights activist. Let's leave it at that. Let's move on. Longer speech. Yes. Use an irony. Use irony. Thank you. Exaggerated rhetoric to criticize self-serving attitudes towards corruption. That's what I thought. That's what I thought immediately by the way he was saying it. My instincts. Damn. Okay. You called it. That guy does not seem like a scumbag. That guy seems like a guy who's fed up with corruption. The way he's saying it is not like, "I am corrupt. You give me the money." That's not how he's saying it. What he was saying was it's people will defend corruption if they're involved, and I think he's right. Yeah. I think that's- Yeah. I think that's basically how it goes. It's motivations, man, and when you see people getting rich around you, you see all these other politicians that are getting fucking filthy, stinking rich, and you are struggling to pay your mortgage. And you're struggling to put your kids into a good school system. You're struggling to make your fucking lease on this nice car that you get to drive. You're struggling. And then you see these other motherfuckers, and you go, "Well, it's kind of good anyway and bad. I'll get the good done. I'll do a little bit of the shenanigans, but we'll get it. It's good for the district." The next thing you know, you got a corporation in, they're union busting, and- Yeah. And you're walking out of a building and Epstein tells you, and he's like, "She's 12. We got you on tape." Yeah. And you're like, "We need this, and this, and this passed." Or not even 12, it's just someone other than your wife, or someone who you talked to that you didn't realize was a Russian spy, and you are some sort of a politician. You're bragging. That's one thing they catch. That James O'Keefe guy? I don't know who that is. Damn, Brian, you're so uninformed. Yeah, man. I mind my business on a level that you wouldn't believe. Oh, I know. I like it. I liked it. You liked that. Yeah. I mean, and also, you know what it is? It keeps me having fresh. It keeps me having uncorrupted takes. Because so much now, when you get told the news, you also get told how you're supposed to feel about it. Right. But that's how you were about USAID and RFK Jr. Yeah. Do you know who Fang Fang is, Brian? Nah. No? No? No? No? No? California. You don't know that whole scandal? No. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's the lady that- She was a Chinese spy. Her husband died and she went back to China? No, that's Mitch McConnell. He's not even dead. He's alive. The motherfucker did. He did. He's alive and there's photos of him holding a newspaper. Look at me in the newspaper today. This is today's newspaper. I watched him die halfway in a news conference. Did you see the video of him sitting on the Senate floor, not moving at all for hours and hours and hours at a time while everybody's moving around him? No. I sent you that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch this. This is crazy. He's on the Senate floor for 20 hours and there's like six hours of him motionless. Yeah, I think the whole thing was only an 18-hour event, so I don't- Okay, whatever it is. 18 hours. He's motionless. Bro, I can't- Is he asleep? He's dead. Oh. It's Weekend at Bernie's. They just- They just fired him up with cocaine and had him sit there. He's back on- No, no, no, no, no. This is an old video. Oh, okay. So this is a video before he completely short-circuited, but it's crazy to watch because I can't do what he's doing. What he's doing is like some Zen monk master shit where he's like sitting in a position and not moving a muscle for hours and hours at a time where everybody's like moving around and moving back and forth and left and right. He's not moving. Look, watch this. Look at him. That's only just a clip of it, but- He just sits. Also, the guy next to him is just sitting there with him and doesn't- Yeah, but at least that guy's moving his fucking head. Barely. McConnell's not moving at all. Dude, it's bizarre. It's bizarre. He's frozen. Look at him. I feel like the dude beside him is the one that's pushing a button to make him vote. Yeah. Speaking of the voting, he did make a vote at the end of this. Apparently made the wrong vote. Someone's noticed he made the wrong vote. Fixed his vote? Yeah, they told his handler and then he fixed his vote. Yes! He was like, it was like a thumbs up, and then as he's walking away, it was like thumbs down, and then he keeps walking away. They don't want to let it go, man. None of them do. It's crazy. Who was the last one they weekended Bernie's, was it? Dianne Feinstein. Feinstein. Yeah, she was in a wheelchair. Didn't know where she was. Bruh. And they're like, you want to vote? Yes. She looked worse than him. Well, she at least can move around a little bit. Like towards the end. Really? And then Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Mm-hmm. Like, I wonder what it is about, because that's why power is so scary to me, because it's like, they can't give it up to the last drop. Yeah. It's identity. It's your identity. It's who you think you are. You're the senator. You're the distinguished senator from South Carolina or wherever you're from. Can't you, but you're already rich. Ain't you tired? Don't you want to go play with your grandbabies? No. And they never feel rich enough. That's the other thing about trying to get rich. You never, you get accustomed to whatever level you're at, and you want to keep leveling up. I mean, because once you're at the point where you're a senator, you can pretty much do whatever you want to do. You mean money-wise? Not if you're clean? Well, I mean, you have a lot of power. You have enough power where you can do most things. I mean, you know. Yeah, but the clean ones don't really have a lot of money. The clean ones? The clean ones. The ones who aren't doing the insider trading. There ain't no clean ones. There's a few. There's a bunch of people that you can, there's fun, you can find lists of them online where they are not participating in any of that. And then you look at their income, you look at their wealth, they're not worth a lot of money. Senators. Senators. They live like a person who makes $170,000 a year, which is a good living, but that's how they live. All right, I'm going to look, I want to see that list. I want to know who it is. There's plenty of them. Actually, I don't want, I'm not going to. Tim Burchett, isn't he one of them? I don't think he's ever been accused of any of that. There's a bunch of these people that are clean, and it's, look, man, it's just, it's such a dirty business. See, I bet you there's a correlation between the people that are clean and the people that haven't been doing it for that long. You know, I think if you stick around, once you start getting them committees, and, because that's the real power, once you start being on these committees and being a chair and this and that, you start, because that's when you deal directly with industries and they start bragging you and shit. And then there's also this thing where you retire and you go work for them. Yeah, and you don't, they ain't letting you get it, they ain't letting no new people get committees. That's true. Nah. Nah. No, no, no, no, no. So it's like, they're not letting you, they're not letting you near any of the real power unless you're a real power. Unless you play ball. Exactly. You know, either you doing this corruption or we got you on tape doing something, but you ain't, yeah, we are all dirty. Yeah. Yeah. That's why every time, like, regardless of how much they fight in public, Democrats and Republicans, every time it's time to get theyself a raise, they all vote yes. It's never no filibuster, it's never no controversy. Right. They all like, yeah, I'll take a little more money. Right. Yeah. And that's also why they haven't stopped this insider trading thing. Yeah. Because they're both doing it. It's why they won't release the Epstein files, it's why they won't tell us who shot Kennedy. Somebody, because only the things that fuck, it's also why they have this, like, blind support of Israel, you know, because, like, and they know why. They're getting paid. Yeah. Paid. Or blackmailed. Paid or blackmailed, or both. Paid, blackmailed, or both. Or there's a lot of those kooky fundamentalist Christians that have an allegiance to Israel because they think Jesus is going to come back. Oh, I guess I didn't think about that. Oh, there's a ton of them. There's a ton of them Mike Huckabee type characters. Hold on, wasn't you telling me something about the Old Testament when I walked in? We were talking, Jamie was bringing up something about Moses. We're going to bring that up. Yeah. It was just like following the story of, I guess it'd be like literally following the story and just sort of like, you know, putting it through a filter about things I know or we know now. Damn, I lost it. Hold on a second. But like, yeah, I guess what do you know about that story off the gate? Yeah. Which part of the story? You were talking about the Ten Commandments. Well, it's just how Moses found, that's, Moses and the burning bush is Exodus 3. I guess that's how it's like titled. So that's where he finds the Ten Commandments. So he sees a burning bush or a bush that is burning and not burning up, you know, like not being consumed by the fire. Correct. And then an angel of God speaks to him, tells him to take off his shoes because he's on holy ground. And then depending on which reading of the Bible, translation, you're finding, he either finds the tablets or they're like presented to him or something. He then takes the tablets down off of the mountain, sees the people worshiping a golden calf, breaks the tablets. Then they have to go make them again. And this is where I started getting in this place of where I was like researching like language and cuneiform and whatnot. I'm like, how many people back then knew actually how to write, read, and then how like, the other, like we've gone on sidetracks with it might be an acacia bush and he might have been, you know, high on DMT or something like that. Oh, he was probably high. And so like it says he found them. So like what did he find and where did they come from? That's a big part of a lot of these ancient religious stories. And there's a bunch of scholars out of the University of Jerusalem that they first came up with this theory that the acacia tree, the burning bush, was in fact a psychedelic plant. And this, like what happens when you. Smoke DMT. You have crazy experiences and visions, you meet entities, and this is probably what he probably. got a giant dose of DMT from a burning bush yeah I think that that's also didn't Joseph Smith also find some tablets yeah yeah I think I'm always fascinated by people like the people that have founded religions and stuff because it's like how charismatic do you have to be for people to to buy that for you like go in the woods and come back and go hey I spoke to God and this he told me this was all the rules it's not me saying it it's like because you because think about who you would believe that would say that today a good day starts with a solid morning routine so if something's missing if your body isn't getting what it needs everything can feel off AG1 is designed to help fill the holes their next gen formula is dialed in with over 75 ingredients minerals vitamins adaptogens and more clinically shown to fill nutrient gaps and increase healthy gut bacteria and AG1 pro takes it even 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confident at all and they're very easily persuaded and those people fall on like people that fall into cults like the cult that owned the building that I almost bought that one world theater that you've ever watched that documentary that guy I mean he was he was basically an obvious kook he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist and developed this cult out of his yoga students and if you ever taken yoga before very it gets very culty there's a lot of people that are teaching the yoga that they they look there's yoga teachers that are very cool and just really cool speak peaceful spiritual people that really enjoy teaching yoga making people's lives better for sure but there's also people that get into a position of power like being the spiritual leader of a yoga class and then they start abusing that power that's the story of like Bikram like if you you know I'm you ever watch the documentary on that guy that did Bikram joke he's fucking everybody he was a wild dude he had Rolls Royces like he was living like like a psychopath and it's all cult stuff it's like you have that kind of power over these people was he also fucking people's wives I'm sure because that feels like no but I mean it feels like that's a through line oh yeah in a lot of cults like they go at some point he's like I'm supposed to be fucking your God told me I get to fuck your wife yeah if there's a surprising amount of comics that were raised in cults or escaped cults Kurt Metzger yeah Kurt Metzger Abby Roberge I forget her name is this girl at the mothership hmm that is like I've met I probably met like maybe five or six comics that were like oh yeah I was in a cult makes sense well Ari was Orthodox Jewish like heavily like studying the Torah 12 hours a day like the whole deal lived in Israel in a kibbutz like he did the whole deal wait a minute who Ari Shafir oh Ari Shafir was deeply religious deeply deeply religious and then what like he got older he got into his like early 20s like what the this is fucking nonsense like what the fuck are we doing and then he became a comic like did a full 180 yeah I mean that's a motherfucker that's gonna do whatever you want to do yes well especially what he's been through with you know being in that religious environment like hyper religious environment he is just completely allergic to any rules any and any authority any people telling people what to do and how to behave and how to think fuck you he's just he has none of that in him well this is the truth man this was just what I found is that most of the time the people telling you how you supposed to like people that make it their whole personality to tell other people how to live they usually are living like shit they're doing some shady shit almost every time it's definitely that and then there's another thing that happens with people that don't have kids in particularly and it happens with I mean I want to generalize but it seems like it's Republicans too but it's a lot of liberal women liberal women with no children want to turn the world into their children they want to like scold the world like they're doing the wrong thing and they're they're worried about the environment and they're worried about the future and they're worried about voting and they're worried about rights and they're worried about the immigrants they're worried about the this and they're worried about that they're taking care of the world like it's the child that they don't have but those all sound like good things well it depends on which which angle you're taking on any of these things you know I mean you use those things as an excuse to be a cunt then they're not good things you know I just heard a lady talking about this she called it I don't want to fuck it up she called it don't worry about it that very same thing no but people that don't have children no no no it she was talking more along the lines of like of what of like cancel culture and what it's born out of basically like defining yourself she called it like slave morality or master master slave morality but she was saying like you the ruling class traditionally defines themselves as like the way they behave as good and just like you the ruling class traditionally defines themselves as like the way they behave as good and just like you know things like being beautiful and being successful and also and then this the slave morality is defining yourself as not those things right like you're you're saying that like I'm a good person because I'm not those things and you have and then you have to see I'm gonna fuck this up you're gonna have and then you have to demonstrate that morality by by punishing people master and slave morality two opposing value systems introduced by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche Friedrich Nietzsche in his 1887 book on the genealogy of morality master morality is an active self-affirming value system created by the strong wealthy and ruling class definition of good masters look at themselves and define what is good based on their own traits such as strength power nobility beauty courage and wealth definition of bad bad is simply a secondary descriptive term for what is common plain or low not evil perspective it's an inward looking it's inward looking and focuses on action and achievement rather than reacting to others slave moralities reactive defensive value system born from resentment resentment why does it say resentment is that how you say it what is it but it's what is resentment have you ever seen that word deep seated resent oh it's deep seated resentment it's deep resentment and powerlessness experienced by the oppressed or the herd definition of evil slave it's deep seated resentment and powerlessness experienced by the oppressed or the herd definition of evil slave slaves begin by defining what they fear or cannot attain in their oppressors as evil for example power pride wealth and strength definition of good good is created in reaction to evil defined as the opposite of the master's traits praising humility meekness obedience empathy and forgiveness well the interesting thing is cancel culture does not have much forgiveness nor does it have empathy for opposing thoughts but the woman I saw speaking she goes into that about how like you you get to the point where because because human beings are all those things right it's like you you trying to define yourself as one or the other you would you have to reinforce your morality by basically let me put it in my own words everyone is looking for a reason to be their worst self like you're looking for a reason to to be evil to like exercise your your nastiness in the way to do that is by defining someone else's bad so So then you get to say, you know, I'm like normally I would never burn down somebody's house, but they voted for such and such. Like normally I would never, you know, yell at someone's kids, but they had this sticker on their car. It's like you you start having to define what other people are so that you can espouse your morality. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so it's weak people. We're all looking for. I think it's just human nature. Yeah, but that's a weakness to not to not be able to objectively look at why you're upset at things is a weakness. It's a psychological weakness. But we all have weak spots where there's things that you don't that you are not objective about. Sure. Like you have blind spots, you know? Yes. Or it's like you hear somebody died and the first thing you want to know is, well, how did they die? Right. Because you're trying to figure out you're trying to you're looking for a reason to not care. No. Oh, yeah. I don't do that. What if. OK, let me tell you that. What if I tell you. I never look for a reason to not. care. What if I tell you somebody died doing something stupid? well you know people doing something stupid is stupid i mean it's not that i don't care it's not like i'm looking for a reason to not care but it's like i'm looking for a reason whether or not i should be really sad or really upset right or you can go like well you know like you maybe you're not looking for a reason that i care but when you get one you go oh thank god you know i don't have to like go through the emotions because that dude strapped himself to a rocket yeah well there's always people like that there's always people that do stupid shit that you don't feel bad for if they die and interesting enough it's more men than women that don't feel bad i never laugh when women die like but men die if men die doing something stupid like a dude runs with the bulls and he gets a horn up his asshole it's like okay bro yeah i'm trying to think about what are you doing why are you doing that if i've ever laughed at a woman dying i feel bad when women die i don't think so yeah bro i i have so like i was telling the homies yesterday but like i got the captain save a whole gene from both sides it's dominant it's not recessive i i'm such a soft like you're a compassionate person girl tears just i'm just like all right fine take it take whatever you want you're a nice person that's what it is but it can it can be manipulated with the wrong ladies yep facts that's that's all it is it's just you just got to find a good woman and if you find just good people in general and then you won't be you don't have to worry about being manipulated because they're not trying to manipulate you but you have to be manipulated a bunch of times to recognize the pattern and you go okay because i have definitely watched i've definitely watched videos of women getting hurt and laughed well i watched this one mexican lady lay some bitches out on sixth street and i wanted to sign her for the u.s really who this chick had a fucking haymaker dude she was wide and she gets in a brawl with these chicks the shoes are off immediately and this girl's throwing bombs like amanda nunez right hands it i didn't watch it personally on sixth street i can't walk around this one is it no no no no this bitch was stout those are white chicks they can't fight as soon as you see this as soon as you see the leaning back and the punching at the same time nothing good's happening this chick was talking her chin and throwing like this boom she was throwing power shots she was flatlining chicks oh this girl um nope that's not it they're doing the same thing see the leaning back there's no power in leaning back she actually punched her in the nose that's all that is a good stance as you were saying yeah bad bad posture terrible form this lady at one point in time someone taught her how to punch or she's just a natural talent some people yeah some people have natural talent yeah because see that's the things like if they deserve it i'll i'll watch him get punched bro my friend tommy my friend tommy jr have you met him tommy no one of my oldest friends he's been my friend for 35 years he had this girl that he was dating for a while and he was always telling me uh she was like a strong girl she worked out a lot he's man that fucking machine she could punch I go really so I'm I'm skeptical but I'm open-minded and I go how hard do you punch she goes she goes I punch fucking hard and I go okay hit my hand and she hit my hand I held my hand up and she fucking cracked my hand to the point where like oh that could knock me out like that could knock me out I just found it right as you said hit my hand I fucking hit play on that one and that was it where is it sensitive cut yep that's her oh no shoes bro bro look at that punch I'm gonna watch this again watch this again back it up to the beginning oh it's a it's a Instagram video this chick okay she's got sandals on she's not barefoot this is a this is earlier in the video I think it starts off with the highlight you know and then bro you'll show yeah I do our shoes do come off right this chick can fucking crack dude try to watch it again all right here we go ready watch this oh my God see the hips see the hips in the shoulder from now every time I come on the podcast this is all I want to do bro that girl can fight that girl look at her throw that chick down she's stout too look ground and pound vicious I mean sign her up that first punch was incredible and then the hip toss a hammer dude she threw a hammer all all body was into that she pushed off her feet everything that was excellent if I was her coach I'd be like fuck yeah that was great God damn see you gotta be if you got if you hit motherfuckers like that you gotta be careful man you could kill somebody oh 100 percent you know a hundred percent yeah she's not even looking yeah that girl's looking away too this look at this she doesn't even know the fight started bro one more time give me one more time boom my God flatline you know that's like she now she never had a concussion you watched you saw her foot was moving not only that her head bounced off the ground that's the scary part you fuck around man the scary part is when the head bounces off the ground that's when people die I'm so glad I'm at the age now why I ain't trying to fight no body yeah fuck that but you know when you when you're young and you when you're in your 20s and you're like fucking what's up then yeah that shit could go so many that should go wrong so many ways I never got in fights I got in a couple fights in high school that's it and before that I got in a couple fights a very very few amount of street fights in my career yeah yeah all organized I've had a lot of organized fights a lot of agreed to fights I've had a lot of like matches where I knew I was preparing for and I had fights AG1 they've been a long time partner of the show they've been focused on putting care and research into their stuff especially 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talking my head off because that's how you can tell when people drunk there's a like they'll just they'll tell you the same story they told you 10 minutes ago and uh and the last time she came out to talk to me she she left her phone on my I had like a little table beside me and then she came back out to smoke again and and the boyfriend came up behind her and like picked her up you know romantic whatever and and I went to go hey you left your phone and I turned the point of the phone and he just clocked me and my head bounced against the uh like you know the frame of the door and and we get right to it you know I'm whooping this boy's ass real bad and the cops come out of nowhere this is in this is in San Diego this is a I think it's Adams Avenue but it's it's where like it's like it's basically like Sixth Street like all the bars yeah yeah and and the cops just come out of nowhere and they were all on my side they put us both in handcuffs and then they was like what happened and then the bartender was like he works here and that guy and I was like what do you want to do I was like anyway that guy later on I found out that guy he ended up beating the out of the girl getting arrested you know but he just hit me for no reason and what was so funny is when I start whooping his ass he he completely he was like a psycho he completely was like why are you doing this what's happening and he just he just punched the out of me for no reason at all never said two words to this dude except do you have your ID he just punched the out like he went straight from like showing his girl all this affection and then punching me in the face he's probably on drugs he's probably he's probably on drugs or some kind of he probably got some kind of uh mental health issue um what do you call it emotional dysregulation or something like that move swings definitely not a healthy person because I don't think it was like it wasn't it like he he didn't he wasn't he wasn't acting confused he was actually confused as to why I was whooping his ass. You understand what I'm saying? It wasn't acting. It wasn't because it doesn't give me that vibe of, like, where he was trying to, like, get people, come help, right? It wasn't like that. He was genuinely like, why are you doing this, man? What's going on? Like, he seriously didn't understand. Did you have glasses on at the time? No. I should have. I was supposed to, but I just couldn't. That's a real problem, isn't it? You get punched with glasses on? That's never happened to me. Really? No. I just recently started caring about my vision. Dude, I knew a lot of guys who would fight in the UFC with contacts on. Oh, that's insane. Yeah. I know a dude who got staph infection on his eyeball because he picked up his contact off the mat and put it back in his eye. That is. See, that's what I mean. See, I don't care about that guy. I don't care. Right? Because why would you. He was a kid. That was. Oh, it was a child. No, but, you know, 18, 19-year-old kid. He didn't know any better. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think he got really fucked up from it, too. I don't know if he lost his eye, but it was, like, a serious problem. And I've heard of that more than once. It's kind of scary. See, that's the thing. If it's harmless and you did some stupid shit, it's definitely funny. Right. If it's harmful and you were doing some stupid shit. Right. It's 50-50. If it's harmful and you were doing some stupid shit, trying to harm somebody else, it's funny every single time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You go to throw a punch and you slip and fall down and fly stairs and break your leg. Yeah, that's why my. Hilarious. That's why my first thing, when you tell me somebody died, I'm like, how did they die? You don't get to say it's private or respect the family. If you're not going to tell me how they died, then keep it to yourself. Because I need to know how to feel. Well, it's that story I tell on stage about the missionary who delivered the Bible to the uncontacted tribe and they murdered him. Like, nobody feels bad for that guy. No. No. Because I think deep down, we are mind your business people. It's like, hey, you should be minding your business. You know? It's like those people, because it takes work to stay uncontacted. Sort of. They're stuck. Those people are stuck. The North Sentinel people are stuck. What's really crazy, if you know the story behind them, you understand why they're so hostile to outsiders. Why? Because there was a guy named Commander Maurice Vidal Portman, and he was this explorer slash pervert. Who was traveling around like an English gentleman. Who was traveling around to these islands. And he would do weird shit. Like, he would dress them up weird and take photos of them. And make, like, these descriptions of them. He, like, wrote about this one guy. He had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg. Like, he's describing this guy's testicles. So he's doing some freak shit to these people. They also kidnapped. How big is a sparrow's egg? Why is that the. I don't know. I guess they're a little. He just was comparing. Okay. He had little testicles. Probably malnourished. He's on a. He's stuck on a fucking island. Like, these people were direct descendants of. You know, this place, North Sentinel Island, and this island chain that's out there, they're completely uncontacted. And this North Sentinel Island only has 39 people, roughly estimated, living on it. And they're stuck. And they have been visited in the past by people, but it went horribly wrong. And one of them, they kidnapped. I think they kidnapped two children and possibly their. one parent as well. And then they gave them something like the flu or some sort of a disease, and the people died. They had no immunity to these outside diseases, just like the Native Americans didn't. You know, when the Europeans showed up, you know, this is the thing that killed literally 90% of Native Americans died from, like, smallpox. Because it just spread like wildfire. They had no immunity. Oh, it's bad. Like, when people talk about the genocide of Native Americans, yes, absolutely. They definitely murdered a lot of people. A lot of the Native American tribes. However, the vast majority of them died from disease. Like, let's throw that into our AI-sponsored perplexity. What percentage of Native Americans died from disease because of the European settlers? I think it's really high. Are these the people you were talking about yesterday that they don't have a. No, no, no, no. That was different. That's the guy from the Amazon who went to live with these people. How do you say their name again? Piraha? The Piraha people. Fascinating. Wow, that was one of the most interesting podcasts I've had in a long time. The guy was really cool. Roughly 50 to 90% of indigenous people in many affected regions died in epidemics after European contact. Some older, continent-wide estimates put disease-related losses as high as about 90 to 95%. Fuck, dude. God damn. Fuck. Just fucking imagine that. I mean, imagine you've got no medication and then on top of that you have no immunity to these dirty Europeans who are coming over and fucking everybody and. Smallpox, measles, influenza, typhus, and others. Everything. Everything. The fucking full Monty. Crazy. I guess, damn, I didn't know. But that's what happens. it was at that scale. Well, especially when you do. You're dealing with Europeans that are living in these squalor-like conditions. So Native Americans lived in these nomadic, especially like the Comanche, nomadic tribal existence where they had tents and horses and they were traveling around and going to different places. They didn't live in their own shit. So Europeans were living in these fucking places where they'd take a pot of shit and throw it out the window. Their streets were filled with horse shit. They had shit everywhere. And they were wrong about why people were getting sick. You know, it's like they didn't realize, like, oh, the shit is in the drinking water. Yeah, it's everywhere. Yeah, because back then, you know, there was a time when, like, they believed in, like, vapors and. Like that time where everything was spirits and alignment. And they were just completely wrong about why people were getting sick downriver. It took a long time for people to connect that it was like, oh, because we're shitting up here and then we're pumping our drinking water. Well, the first doctor to realize that, he realized that you should wash your fucking hands before you operate on people or give birth or help someone give birth. No one thought that was necessary. They didn't realize. Like, you have disease. You have germs in your fucking hands. He was ridiculed. The first doctor that said that, I think we should wash our hands. Like, get the fuck out of here. Who is that guy? Why don't we celebrate that guy? I know, we should. I think probably the medical establishment probably does. He may have saved more lives than anyone. Right. Yeah. I mean, you got to think, before they had microscopes, they were just guessing. Well, at least when did it start being a thing to wash your hands? Well, for physicians, here's the guy. Ignaz Semmelweis. Oh, that's why we don't celebrate him. Your name's hard to say. Too rough. You can't have two hard names. Hungarian medical doctor and scientist of German descent who was an early pioneer of antiseptic procedures, known as the savior of mothers. Postpartum infection, also known as purpural fever or childbed fever, was common in the 19th century and often fatal. Semmelweis demonstrated that the incidence of infection could be drastically reduced by requiring healthcare workers in obstetrical clinics to disinfect their hands. In 1847, he proposed hand washing with chlorinated lime solutions at Vienna General Hospital's first obstetrical, surgical clinic where doctors' wards had thrice the mortality of midwives' wards. Wow. I think it's obstetrical. Obstetrical? But I don't feel like we have to say it again. Obstetrical. It's funny how you can live to 59 years old and never have said a word. Oh. And then it just shows up. How many times does he say thrice? Thrice. I'm going to say it all the time now. I have thrice done this. I only see it written. I never hear anybody say that. Thrice? Yeah. Who says thrice? If you say thrice in a regular conversation, Yeah, you're flexing. you're something. Or if you say tertiary, tertiary conditions. No, that's one of my favorite words, tertiary. Because it's the only word I know of that means that. Sometimes it's a handy one. Right. Yeah, because before I learned that word, I would just be like, you know, secondary, but more. And then when I heard tertiary, I was like, that's it. Tertiary. They beat him up and killed him for fucking telling everybody to wash his hands. What? Yeah, they threw him in a mental institution where he got beat up and died two weeks later. Oh, my God. Despite his research, Semmelweis' observations conflicted with the establishment scientific views of the time, the established scientific views of the time, and his ideas were rejected by the medical community. He could not offer a theoretical explanation for his findings of reduced mortality due to hand washing. Additionally, some doctors were offended by the suggestion that they should wash their hands and mocked him for it. In 1865, the increasingly outspoken Semmelweis proposed a law that would allow the medical community purportedly suffered a nervous breakdown, was committed to an asylum by his colleagues. In the asylum, he was beaten by the guards. He died 14 days later from a gangrenous wound on his right hand that may have been caused by the beating. Man. I guess you could say he was the Dr. Fauci of his time. The opposite. And then he got gangrene from an infection, which is even crazier. He died from a fucking infection from his beating. God damn. And then Louis Pasteur is the guy. - I've heard that name a million times. - Yeah, I've heard Louis Pasteur. He confirmed the germ theory, giving Semmelweis's observations a scientific explanation. And then Joseph Lister, is that from Listerine? Probably. Acting on Pasteur's research, pioneered antiseptic surgical methods with great success. Click on Joseph Lister. Is he responsible for Listerine? Got to be. Or maybe like it's because his name was like so ubiquitous when they were talking about. Was his name like a name that was synonymous with antiseptics? Who invented Listerine? Why don't you just Google that? Well, because I would imagine. I didn't know I was walking into one of the longest Wikipedias I've ever seen. I thought it was just going to be like on the third paragraph. Look at all this shit on Joseph Lister. Yeah, he's done a bunch of stuff. Damn. God damn. He was getting work done. That's a guy that was not lazy. A third of the way down. Damn. That dude did a lot of work. Thank God for those people. Right? Thank God for those people that are out there investigating germs and diseases and Listerine. Listerine is named after Joseph Lister. That's it. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, of course. Because people probably at the time, back then when Listerine was invented, you know. 1879. Yeah. There you go. And they're not careful. Now it's like a, it's kind of like ubiquitous now, right? Yeah. Well, the other thing about like mouthwash, I hear that mouthwash is actually not good for you. I was reading this thing. God, it was quite a while ago. They were talking about athletics. They were talking about like athletic performance and gains in terms of like the, when you're training. Like how. How well you recover and how good you get, how strong you get afterwards, that it's diminished by mouthwash. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See if you can find that. But it makes sense, right? Your gut bacteria and all the fucking, like, like for instance, if you take antibiotics, have you ever had to take antibiotics? If you take antibiotics and try to work out, holy shit, bro, you feel so tired. You feel so exhausted. Are there fighters that stink on purpose? Like that's part of their strategy? Oh, yeah, definitely. Really? Is that allowed? Oh, yeah, yeah. Jiu-jitsu guys used to do it all the time. They used to not wash their gi at all. It would smell like ammonia. Are you allowed to do that? I don't know. We'll find out. Antibacterial mouthwash is plausibly linked to exercise physiology, but has not been proven to meaningfully worsen race time, strength, or overall athletic performance in healthy people. The main concern is that it can suppress oral bacteria involved in producing nitric oxide, a molecule important. It is also a source of vitamin C, which is a very important vitamin for blood vessel dilation, and oxygen delivery. Okay, there it is. Thanks, Perplexity. Thank you, Perplexity. I just wanted to take Viagra. What next? And then beetroot. Beets are really good for converting to nitric oxide in your body. Why? I don't know. There's something about beets in general. Well, it says right here, dietary nitrite found in foods such as leafy greens and beetroot can be converted by certain mouth bacteria into nitrite, which the body can then use to make nitric oxide. Nitric oxide helps regulate blood flow, blood pressure, and potentially muscle oxygenation during and after exercise. I know a lot of dudes that will drink beetroot shots before they work out. Really? Yeah. Yeah, the beetroot apparently gives you a little bit of extra juice. So that's saying if you depend on those type of foods, then you're killing the bacteria in your mouth that helps convert them to something usable. Yes. It kills your body's ability to convert. It'll diminish your performance, maybe somewhat. But, you know, people are always looking for every possible edge. So if it turns out that, like, you use some mouthwash and it'll just take a little bit out of your endurance and a little bit out of your, like, race time or a little bit out of your ability to go into the third, fourth, and fifth round. Yeah. I mean, it's going to, if it does mess with your body's, nitric oxide is gigantic. And if you do all of that and then don't win, you know, because it's okay to be a funky breath champion. Yeah, but you can brush your teeth. You just don't use mouthwash. Oh, yeah. There's nothing wrong with brushing your teeth. Right, right. That's not going to kill all of the bad breath germs. No, but there's a lot of people that also believe that one of the reasons why people get so many skin infections is because we wash so much and that we've managed to nuke all of the. The external flora, the skin flora that we have that usually used to protect people from things. No, yeah, I can believe that. I can believe that for sure. Yeah, well, I mean, why do we have to wash all the time? If other than the fact that you don't want to smell, but take that away. And what would be like the natural reason why you would be created in a way that you must wash yourself all the time or you can get sick? That's crazy. That doesn't even make sense. No animals are like that. Like my dog goes a week without. Without washing and he's fine. I take him to the groomers once a week unless he gets in the pool or goes in the lake. He's not. He's not washing. They're fine. But I bet you, I bet you it's kind of like, I bet you humans are kind of like, like, you know how maybe it was you that told me that if you if if you have a pig and it gets out. Yeah. And you like say you put a tracker on him when you find him, he's going to be a different animal. Yeah. You know, and I think I think maybe like if you were to just release a human into the wild. You know, they would you would start not needing to walk. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like your body would change in a way that this is my theory. I bet that makes sense in terms of your skin. Yeah. Because when you hear stories from the ancient world and stuff, you never really it's not a lot of like an epidemic of funky motherfuckers. Wasn't there a dude who was like the world's dirtiest man and they found this guy and they washed him and then he died. No, that was a different guy. The dude who's like the. It was like there's a famous photo of this guy. He's like caked in dirt. And I think they washed him off and he died shortly afterwards. Yeah, there's the dude. Oh, buddy. No. Look at him. He's got smoking four cigarettes. No, I'll take the soap. The world's dirtiest man in Iran, aged 94 years old. And the meme says that. I don't know if it's accurate. Yeah. Didn't wash for 60 years. Died shortly after washing for the first time. Find out if that's true, though. But what? Put that in a. Out of your perplexity. What made him. Find out if he really died. What made him wash? Well, he did die, but it's a matter of timing, you know. Right. But I mean, I'd like to know. Even if it's just correlation that does not necessarily equal causation. I would like to know if he died shortly afterwards. He died a few months after bathing for the first time in 60 years, having been persuaded by the inhabitants of the village to do so. There you go. See, also. Wait a minute. See, also. Dirty dick. Oh, you're going to leave that alone. Come on. Really? 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It has all the features that you need to create a standout website. Like an AI-enhanced website builder. SEO optimization. Optimization tools. And seamless checkouts with mobile pay links. Head to Squarespace.com slash Rogan for a free trial. And when you are ready to launch, use the offer code Rogan to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Lake Ontario is no longer Lake Ontario. It's Lake America. And we might be doing the Atlantic and Pacific next. Why do we do that? We might be doing Atlantic and Pacific? Could be, yes. Well, we're going to name them. I don't know what the Pacific is. The Ocean? Yeah. But Lake Ontario has been Lake Ontario forever. Isn't it connected to Ontario? Yeah, it said it has something to do with Trump. But it's in America or it's in Canada? Parts in Ontario, correct? Oh, it's the Great Lakes, so I mean it touches both. Yeah, all the lakes touch both. Okay, but what percentage of the land is on Canada versus America? I think it's literally, I mean, I could look it up on the map, but it's on the map right there. Let's see whose side we're on. I think it's 50-50. I don't know if it's exactly 50-50. President Trump, you've got to stop fucking with the acronyms, man. Because I learned the Great Lakes, but I've learned HOMES. That's how you can name all the lakes, right? How are they going to teach the kids now? HOMES? Yeah, Lake Huron, Lake Ontario, Lake Michigan, Lake Erie, and Lake Superior. Oh, yeah, acronym. Okay. I didn't learn that. No? I don't think so. If I did, I forgot it. The crazy thing is those are all different. They're all just melted glaciers. Really? Yep. Isn't that nuts? Do they connect to the ocean? No. No. Do they? Yes. All of them? Well, through the St. Lawrence. The lake. The ones inside? Like Michigan? Like that one connects to the ocean? They're all connected to each other. Oh, wow. And so they're connected to, I think, the St. Lawrence Expressway, whatever that one's called. Oh, okay. Maybe this one's not. I think like Ontario's connected. I thought the one in Illinois. What's the one in Illinois? I just know that. Because that's how Ohio got used for shipping. Well, actually, even the one in Illinois makes sense that it would be connected to the ocean because they find sharks up there. You know, they found sharks in Illinois. You know how crazy this is? Bull sharks, they can live in fresh water. So they swam all the way from the fucking ocean all the way up to Illinois. In fresh water. There you go. Isn't that nuts? I think Ontario serves as the outlet to the Atlantic via the St. Lawrence River. Hmm. But how do they? And they're all connected. So all of them are connected somehow to the ocean. God, I thought they were just in the middle. I thought like there's no way in the middle. But it makes sense. But what's the purpose of changing the name? Oh. Could distract you from the fact that we're in a war that we can't win in Iran? Doesn't make any sense. Like, who cares? It's Lake Ontario. Well, it's a good name. We've had that name forever. Yeah, it's weird. It's like these politicians now, they love to solve a problem. Like, they love to, like, make up a problem for themselves to solve. So you feel like they're doing stuff. Hmm. It's like, because I don't understand what we get out of that. Is that like, fuck Canada? Is that what that is? You know, it's really wild. Like, these lakes, right? They, at one point in time. So at one point in time, most of North America was covered in like a mile plus high sheet of ice. And then at the end of the ice age, all that shit melts. Probably with the Younger Dryas impact, it's probably very rapid. Oh, that video. We got to show that Nepal thing. And then after that, they melt and becomes a lake. How do all the fish get in there? Are they getting in there from the ocean? And why are there freshwater fish in there? How long does that take? Because if this whole thing where North America was under ice as recently as 11,000 years ago, how the fuck are they freshwater fish? How are the freshwater fish getting in there? Like, where are they coming from? Probably the ocean. Right. But freshwater fish in the ocean? Did they evolve, become freshwater over time? How much time does that take? Because if it's only 11,000 years. Well, how do those sharks do it? You said those sharks. That's different. Those sharks can exist in freshwater. So the. Bull sharks in particular. The Great Lakes are connected to other sources of water. As well. Yeah, like other rivers and other lakes. Right. But wasn't all that frozen as well at one point in time? Well, I mean. If the entire. If the entire North American continent was like three quarters of it was covered in like a mile plus high sheet of ice real recently. It couldn't have been that recently. Oh, yeah. It was that recently. It was like, I think, as recently as 11,000 or 12,000 years ago. Oh, right there. It would have taken 9,000 years. That's not quick. It says fish were in the Great Lakes soon after the last ice age roughly 10,000 to 14,000 years ago. Yeah. And then they started fishing as long as. Yeah, I guess you're right, Jamie. That's not a little bit of years. Oh, it's definitely a lot of years. But it's interesting that they're freshwater fish. Right. So if the water is connected from the ocean. I see what you're saying. That's not enough time for something to evolve. And turn into a freshwater. So it couldn't be from the ocean. It could. It must be that either they're these kind of fish that transition like salmon do. You know, salmon go from freshwater to saltwater and they go back and forth. So they spawn in the rivers and then they go back out to the ocean. So maybe it's that all freshwater fish can. I don't think they can. Was it. I'll just another question. Was it frozen all the way down? Because I can't you ice fish. Oh, yeah. Ice fish a mile deep. I don't know. No, I think. Is it a solid mile? I think it was solid ice covering ground. I mean, I think it's like going fishing in Antarctica. I mean, I think I think it's just a big giant ice cap. You know, I just. Fishing during the ice age. I just read something about the black sea. Have you heard about the black sea? Like if you go far enough, like once you get down to a certain point in the black sea, like like 100 or 200. Yes. People were fishing in North America during the final part of the ice age, though the clearest early evidence. OK, there this is. That's different. What does it go up a little bit? Archaeologists found direct evidence that people in central Alaska caught freshwater fish about 13000 years ago. The identified fish include burbot first. Followed by northern pike and whitefish. The remains came from human settlement content, taught context rather than natural deposits. Will perplexity give you porn? Never tried. What do you want? You're a goddamn liar. You're a dirty man. What do you want? It's not hard to find porn. I don't need perplexity's help. But on the Internet. Don't say that, Jamie. How long is it going to be before they can create it? Well, the thing is, well, people don't. I don't know. I mean. What? What is like the best? What's the? He doesn't do. He's like, I don't know what we're talking about. I forgot. I forgot. I know nothing. I've never seen Red Band's phone. What is the best large language model for creating porn? Probably. As far as our Duncan would say, it's like some Chinese model because all the guardrails are off. The Chinese ones, they let the gates wide open and encouraging innovation. That's where they're going to win. I mean, they already win it. They're winning with drones. That's for sure. Their drones are so much more advanced than ours. They already win it. Because I forget. I don't know if it was a guy you had on here before, but he was talking about how like the big the big difference over there is like even though they they they have capitalism. It's not a capitalist system because the capital has no power over the government. Like a rich person in China can't they can't get a law passed. No. And if you talk any shit, they'll disappear. Yeah. And I'll take your money. Yeah. So it was it's so that they it was only once we started shipping our jobs over there, our manufacturing jobs, it was only a matter of time. It's not gonna happen in my lifetime. But a lot of time for what? Before they before they beat us economically. Like you're probably your great grandkids going to be learning Mandarin. You know, you really believe that? Mm hmm. Interesting. Have you ever heard people say that they're. The estimates of population there are overestimated by a lot. By a lot. Like it's not really two billion people over there. I don't know how many they really say. I've tried to look like not a lot more than. It's hard to know because they're not going to tell you the truth and they're not going to tell you they lied. Right. And it's also they had that weird one child policy, which really fucked them up. It's set them back a lot. A lot. Because then they had all these boys and no girls for the boys. Like it's the dumbest idea of all time. You have. You have a whole nation where you had 60 percent boys can't get laid or whatever the fuck it is. I mean, it's tough when you like when you do when you like when Pol Pot, how many people did he kill? He killed mad people and he was like, it's still too many people to feed. Jesus Christ. That's what's scary when the resources are low. The government solution. You talking about Mao Zedong? I mean Mao Zedong. Yeah. Hmm. That's spooky. It's spooky, though. Too many people got to starve them. Got to kill them. I don't know if that's the reason he gave that it was too many people. He also killed quite a few or is responsible for. Yeah. Pol Pot. Yeah. But that was in China, though. Yeah. Roughly responsible for the deaths of one point five to two million people in Cambodia. And he did it over four years. Oh, what was his what was his reasoning? So many people. Oh, mass executions and political persecution. Forced removal of city residents into rural labor camps, starvation, disease, overwork, torture and lack of medical care, targeting a perceived political opponents, educated people, educated people. That's crazy. Ethnic Vietnamese. I don't know what the order is. Cham. Cham Muslims, Chinese Cambodians, religious groups and others. Fuck the Khmer Rouge. See, I feel like a lot of these people, they dictate it wrong. If I'm going to start a slave camp, I'm going to keep the slaves healthy. They don't know the work. Well, you know who? who arguably did it right, Muammar Gaddafi. Gaddafi yeah Libya he had he had labor camps no but as a dictator arguably did it right like he was a dictator of Libya but everybody had a home everybody had an education if you had a particular skill and you needed to be educated overseas he would send you overseas and pay for it yeah then he started trying to convince people to move away from the dollar exactly shoved a knife up his ass yeah yep literally stabbed in the ass yeah oh yeah I've seen the video yeah so it's like the look on his face when those rebels capture him you know who probably paid for that us USAID oh damn that kind of shit yeah yeah oh yeah cuz I think I think he felt betrayed somehow yeah well he was yeah he was he got betrayed by his own people yeah I mean they convinced him to do it all you have to do is like fund the rebels you fund the rebels you overthrow the dictator that's what they do it's literally what I mean you got I'll send you some Mike Benz stuff it'll freak you out it'll freak you out because the depth of it and how long it's been going on and that literally it's for stuff that's too dirty for the CIA cuz I cuz I don't know if that's exactly true of what he was doing I but I think that is what he was doing trying to move away from me 100% oh yeah 100% yeah yeah and and here's the thing it's easy to be like well we shouldn't be murdering people for that but that's what but it's like if that if if the world if the dollar stops being the world's currency we're in serious trouble yeah he was also trying to establish the United States of Africa I was trying to unite after they never let that happen exactly he was trying to do a lot of shit um before I forget that video from Nepal the video have you seen this I don't even know oh my god oh my god dude they had a a damn burst so there was a mudslide um I'm not exactly sure I did see that oh it's real avalanche I think an avalanche started it watch this dude this is fucking crazy watch it from the beginning please go from the very beginning watch how quick this hits so these people are hanging out there running away they're running trying to get out of there but look how fast this comes on man you're not gonna make it but it's the speed of which it overcomes everything is so crazy and the the finality of it look how it's blowing through that building I mean everything's gone you said it's a better angle yeah there's multiple angles well like look how it does it's going through the trees like you're not getting away from this this is crazy this is the one this one's fucking terrifying I just watch up in the top here and these people are moving a pretty high speed too right so they already know they can oh yeah well there's probably sirens going off and shit but watch the fucking speed that this comes through man no everything's wiped out so what everything's wiped out what is this an avalanche yeah is this an avalanche is this an avalanche yeah yeah it started as an avalanche and the dam broke it's it's a series of events oh the avalanche caused the dam to break which caused the oh wow an earthquake caused it but it seems like this caused the earthquake readings you know there's cause like a 5.2 reading on the scale bro it's crazy when you watch the speed in which it overtakes buildings man it's fucking horrifying because you realize there's nothing you can do about it oh no I know these people are these people about to get 400 people are missing this is after the thing had happened after the fact the people that survived and what Jamie brought up earlier Jamie what you were talking about earlier was the stuff with Randall Carlson said about the melting of the ice caps so the thing about you know the Great Lakes and how North America was covered in over a mile of ice Randall Carlson has a very compelling theory that coincides with data that we know about when we pass through comet storms and he thinks we were hit and he thinks we were hit all over the world and there's real evidence like physical evidence in terms of core samples and they do core samples and they get down like 11,800 years they find a lot of a lot of like material that exists that's very common in space but very rare on earth and also micro diamonds these micro diamonds that appear from impacts it's called a tritonite and I think that's the way you pronounce it but they first discovered this stuff during the Trinity explosion because the nuclear bomb created this micro glass this this nuclear glass that's on the ground because just the sheer force of it but it also happens during comet impacts so when we get hit it creates the this glass and iridium which is like really common in space but really rare on earth there's like a layer of it and you get down to like eleven thousand eight hundred years and it's all over the world all over the world was hit by this stuff and particularly North America and he thinks it's responsible for the Great Flood the Great Flood that's in the Bible he thinks it's responsible for all the flooding that you see in North America they like this the Grand Canyon and all this crazy shit that looks like what the fuck happened here like what got giant boulders that were moved like thousands of miles like what the fuck is this and he thinks it was just an insane amount of water instantaneously running over the land so this these mile-plus-high sheets of ice imagine comet slamming into the ice it melts instantly and you have fucking billions and trillions of gallons of water and debris just like that just crushing the land and then when it settles down you got the Great Lakes oh so this is not that long ago no not that long ago the Great Lakes are like 11,000 years old or 12,000 years old or whatever it is they were frozen solid but is there other is there so you're saying it's not there's not one big comic impact there's multiple impacts not just here but all over the world and on top of that it probably happened again somewhere around 10,000 years ago like it's it's there's a time where we pass through it and I think it's June and September if I remember correctly but I might be off but yeah you know this is when you know what the Tunguska event is no okay so in I want to say the 1920s there was a comet that exploded before it impacted over this area of Alaska or was it Alaska no Siberia over this area of Siberia and this area was fucking flattened and the photos are crazy it looks like a nuclear bomb went off because it didn't hit it didn't like impact the ground it detonated above the surface just from the sheer speed of it coming in and the mass of it all it it's our atmosphere and explodes but it just flattened trees everywhere all over and they had no idea what caused it that's what it looks like today today it's still this like flattened area and then that's so that happened during the exact time where we pass through this comet storm regularly so every when is when do we pass through that comet storm is it June so yeah we just did we just did so we pass through it and most the time it's fine but every now and that's not fine and when it's not fine boom so you think that years ago there was just more yeah June so it's I believe it's June and either September or June and November so that one's June it's the Leonid isn't it the Leonid oh the torrid torrid meteor shower when does the torrid when do we pass through the torrid meteor whatever October okay November yeah so September November peaking around October 10th 2026 so it's a regular thing in our in our solar system that we passed through you think it was you think there were there were just more meteors back then no I think there's still out there it's just sometimes they hit sometimes they don't it takes a long time before one does hit or something hits that but that's what you're seeing meteor showers when you see those lights in the sky all the shooting stars those are meteors and if you go through a bad spot and we get hit that's a civilization reset that's a civilization reset if you go through a bad spot and we get hit that's a civilization reset yeah there's a bunch I mean they get so they get close all the time they're just not that big yeah we just get lucky most of them they just mostly burn up most of them burn up on on re-entry or entering into our atmosphere but when they goo it's it's so bright man it's so crazy a few have hit houses or something recently didn't something happen oh yeah someone went through uh went through someone's house a meteorite scary fucking shit dude because there's not a whole lot they can do about it and I think that's probably what the the flood myth was all about insurance won't cover it everyone's dead it doesn't matter they say it's an act of God no but say you're not home and a meteor crush your house they'll say it's an act of God is that what they're saying you can't get meteor insurance no imagine how much you have to pay for meteor insurance and you never use it you'd have to specifically like you know like if you you have to specifically get that like if you live in California you have to get fire insurance. You can't. Your regular insurance is going to be like, nah. Hold on. It actually says most are falling objects peril, not act of God. So maybe there's a fund. Like a separate kind of fund? If I was an insurance company, I would 100% offer meteor coverage. Because who the fuck's going to use it? You get all these people paying. You got one guy every 30 years that needs meteor coverage? You would make a windfall. Yeah. Or they could just easily convince people that it's more common. Oh, yeah. You could show them the meteor showers, falling object insurance. How often is. You do not want this to happen to your house and not have coverage. What about lightning? Your house gets struck by lightning. That's got to be act of God. Yeah. How could you prevent that? I mean, because we're about. We got a super El Nino starting up, right? And I'm not sure exactly what that means. When is that coming? They're predicting it might happen this year. You know what's weird about Texas? We get the sand from Africa. We get sands from the Sahara. In the wind? Yeah. You ever seen that? It's crazy. How do they know that? They know. They know where it came from. You've never seen that? Nah. It's like a regular thing in Texas. It blows over the ocean from Africa? Uh-huh. Do you see it in the sky? Look at this. Isn't that nuts? Saharan dust makes a comeback later this week. Expected to arrive Wednesday night. Isn't that crazy? So this happens every year? Yeah. All the time. Dust from the fucking Sahara desert makes it all the way to Texas. Isn't that insane? Okay. Maybe I need to get back to watching the news a little bit. Because I do feel. I do feel a little wondering. Honestly, man, you know what? It's real hard for me to listen to the podcast. Since I've known you, I used to listen to your podcast all the time. But it's hard to. But now that you're my actual real-life friend, it's hard to listen to it and not be able to respond. You know? Because I talk to you all the time. So it's just like hearing your friend in the other room. And you can't say. Right. I know what you mean. I listen to Tim Dillon's podcast more than anybody's. I don't like to laugh outside. I don't watch any comedy stuff. What? You don't like to laugh? I don't like to watch comedy. Yeah, but it's not comedy per se. It's not like doing stand-up. Like, he's. He's the very best at having an actual, like, relevant take on all the things that are going on today. But with satire and saying it in the most fucking ridiculous way and just having great points but also being hilarious. Yeah, his rants are. They're legendary. He's. He's the best. His podcast is so good, dude. I look forward to it every week like a little kid. Like, oh, it's a new one. It's a new one. That motherfucker's crazy. He did a new one on that lady, The Killer Kids. It's fucking fantastic. I want to see that. Oh, it's so good. He's so good, dude. It's so funny, man. He's just the best at just giving a subject and just ranting. But he did one about the lifeguard that saved that kid and then went to meet Trump. And Trump, Trump was like, what you did was a brave thing. I don't think I would have done. I wouldn't have done it. He went this mad, long rant about how crazy it is that Trump said that, by the way, in front of the little kid. The kid was there, too. The kid that he saved is there. And the kid's parents. Like, everyone's there. And Trump's like, I wouldn't have saved him. I'd have let you die. Look at this. Look at this. Buy it. This is one of the moments where classic Trump, shines through. The president of the United States bringing in a lifeguard who saved someone and then saying I don't know that I would have done that. Here he is, President Trump. He's a real hero. Right, right. You know, when you see that, I don't know if I do it, I wouldn't probably. Right, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have saved you. You're lucky I wasn't on the. He says. I don't know. Here's what's amazing about this, and I didn't even realize this. The child who was saved and his father are in the Oval Office in front of the. He's saying to the father, I would not have saved you a child. You're lucky I wasn't there that day. He's saying this is the first time the child has met the president of the United States. And he's saying, you're lucky I wasn't there. I would have let you die. Because that's what our country's about. You see why I'm sitting here in the Oval Office adorned with gold? It's not because I pulled a bunch of Mexican kids out of the water. In fact, I put a bunch of them in cages. There's a ton of people that look like you that are in a cage right now. Nothing interests Trump less than people saving other people. In the moments of extreme danger, we make sure that we coordinate. And Trump's like, all right, yeah, but who's making money here? Where's the money in this? Now, Trump's eyes would have lit up if the kid said, we're launching a coin. We're actually launching a crypto based on this event because we believe the event was so powerful. That's it. And he goes into these long fucking rants. They're so good, dude. He gives me so much levity. Yeah, yeah, the Tim Dillon rant is, he's a legendary ranter for sure. But it's so good that there's like, there's never been a guy like that that just had his own platform that could do something like that. You know, you relied on 60 Minutes like Andy Rooney. Did you ever notice? You know, they're like a very mild, toned down. And very scripted. Yes. Like, he's not scripting at all. No, he's off the dome. Off the dome, 100% and sober. Yeah, can you imagine when he was, when he had a cocaine problem? He was probably a fucking nightmare. He must have been fun. I'd never hear him talk about, I would like to just ask him about it one day. Oh, he's got some great stories. I bet. He was off the rails. But, figured it out. Smart dude. You know, got off of it, cleaned himself up, figured it out. Doesn't have that problem anymore. Yeah. Didn't lose any of the funny. Probably more funny now than he was then. No. No. You think he was funnier? I don't know. I just, cause I don't know anybody that got more funny when they got off drugs. Dave Attell. Oh, you know what? Probably, no, probably more funny on purpose. Drug addicts are hilarious. Right. Just, but, but, but ironically. Well, some drug addicts are hilarious on purpose. Like, some comics that have drug problems are hilarious. But, Attell, it was a drinking thing. No, you're right. Comedy, stand-up, you need to, like, it's, I think, especially cause back, you know, back in the day, everyone, all the comics were on cocaine and shit. Right. Cause it makes you brave. But, it takes some, you lose something. When you start, yeah, same thing with alcohol. Like, the comics that, you drink a little bit on stage, you feel a little looser. But, if you fucking, you can't go on stage wasted. No. Have you seen those, the video of Tiger Woods? The recent video? No. Where people are freaking out at how bad he looks? He's, I forget what the video's for. He's talking to somebody about something. Like, he's addressing someone. And you look at him, you're like, what happened? He looks so bad. And this is after, you know, he got a DUI fairly recently. And he's had multiple. Another one. Another one. And he's had multiple surgeries. Right? He's had his back fused. He had that horrible accident where his leg got destroyed and they had to put it back together again. Like, he's got one leg that's just destroyed. From a car accident. Yes. From the drinking. Yeah. Where, I don't know what it was. I think it was whether it's DUI meaning under the influence of alcohol or under the influence of pills. The problem with these back surgeries is when people get back fusions and back surgery, a lot of times they're in pain all the time. And here's your choice. Be in pain all the time or be on pills all the time. Like, look at what he looks like. Full screen. To defend him, though. You almost never see him without a hat. He's got a fucking bad tan line. Yeah, I mean, he just looks I mean, he doesn't look that bad. Play it. He's talking about, I don't know what he's talking about. I'm seven years old, playing in the junior world, and you came over and watched me play, and our friendship has started there. He's never seen him with a beard. He's never had facial hair. What you've done off the golf course. Yeah, I mean, he's talking about a kid. Well, maybe you could attribute it to bad lighting, but he looks pale, and he looks sick. Oh, that's just a shitty camera. Yeah, a shitty camera. It could be. But it's also a guy who's had a lot of problems with pills. So, I think it's fair to make that assumption. That he looks like shit right there? That there's something has to do with the fact that this guy's had a serious pill problem. I mean, but that, he just looked regular. I mean, I guess I don't look at the thing good enough to know. How many times has Tiger Woods been arrested for DUI? In two or three. And the car accident, was that confirmed to be DUI? I don't think so. That's one of the speculations. I mean, he drove off a cliff. Yeah, but I mean, listen, he was squeaky clean for like 20 years. Well, the thing is the accident. I mean, the injuries, rather. Surgeries. When guys get surgeries, and then they get on oxys, it's a rough ride to get off those things, man. I know a bunch of people that really fucking struggled to get off those things. I mean, a lot of athletes, you know, they're on way stronger shit. you know, like all the strong shit, but- C-contin's about as strong as it gets. I mean, it's an opiate. It's pretty fucking strong, other than fentanyl. Fentanyl's about the strongest shit you can get. Yeah, but I'm talking about they got shit that they give you, like these football players and shit, they got shit that they give you that make you not feel anything. What do you mean? Like where you can play on it. You know, the players talk about it sometimes, like shit they can inject into your, like say your ankle, like you can't put weight on your ankle and they'll inject some shit so you don't feel nothing, like right then. This episode is brought to you by Blue Cube Cold Plunges. I have been using a cold plunge for years now. I've stuck with it because I genuinely notice a difference. And what I like about Blue Cube is the water actually moves around you. Most cold plunges develop a layer of warmer water around your body after a minute or two. It's like a thermal layer. But Blue Cube's river mode keeps the water circulating so the cold stays consistent. They also just release. They release the deep with more room and a smaller footprint than most traditional tubs. 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Yeah. Well, Toradol is a good one. What is Toradol? Same thing. Anti-inflammatory? Yeah. I heard them—it's a football podcast called Raw Room. I heard them talking about it the other day, like all these offensive linemen. They were, like, on shit since high school. It really—it fucks with your heart. Yeah. So here it is right here. Frequent injections of Toradol, powerful non-steroidal anti-inflammatory to mask game day pain and keep them on the field. Yeah, man. That is a rough—man, he's so happy. You don't have to make a living running at dudes full clip. What's that? I'm going to look at it at a plant. I mean, I don't know what the picture is, but it— What is that? The caption says something about Toradol, so I think it's— Oh, those are all shots? That's, like, a bag? Yeah, that's what it is. It's a helmet. It's a helmet with shots. Okay. The helmet's upside down. I didn't know what the hell it was. I was like, what? I thought it was, like, a germ. I thought they were, like, waiting for a game, and they have, like, a basket of fucking shots. Everybody who needs a shot, come on over. We got them filled up. This is from 15 years ago. Bro. It's a rough way to make a living, son. Yeah, I mean— Making a living fighting or making a living running at people full clip. All we have to do is talk shit. I mean, think about what it's like for you. Before work, we're hanging out in the green room, and the light comes on. Oh, he's got the light. You got to run downstairs, go on stage, have fun. Yeah, but the chance to hold up that trophy, it's intoxicating. Oh, sure. That quote. The chance to be champion? Sure. God. Because I'll tell you what. Everybody that does what we do, you fantasize about being a champion. Look at this quote. Your first day in the league is the last day you'll ever be 100% healthy, says Eagles center Jamal Jackson, an eight-year vet who suffered a torn ACL. In 2009, torn triceps in 2010. No stranger to gained a shot to help deal with the pain. It's a part of football, he says. You take every legal advantage possible. First day in the league is the last day you'll ever be 100% healthy. And that's fighters, too. I mean, most fighters are fighting with something wrong with them. They're fighting with some, you know, shoulder problem, back problem, neck problem, knee problem. They're all fighting with something. Some of them have been concussed in training, and they decided to fight anyway. Toradol is like Motrin. Super powerful. Well, it's an NSAID, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. Within 10 minutes, nothing hurts. But what's the downside of Toradol? It's got to be. There's no biological free lunch. He said it's not addictive. Well. Half of the Steelers roster gets a T-shot every week. Whoa. That's crazy. It says not much is known about Toradol's long-term risks yet, but the drug is banned in several European countries. Because of concerns about potential gastrointestinal issues, such as ulcers and surgical bleeding. Ooh. Yeah, this is also 15 years ago. They might know more now. I don't know. It's interesting because no one is going to ban football, like we were just talking about earlier with CTE. No one's going to ban boxing. They almost did at one point, like way back in the day when people were still dying. From football? Mm-hmm. Was that before helmets? I think it was back in the 11th. It was their helmet days. Yeah. That's hilarious. People were dying doing games all the time. Of course. Yeah, and then, you know, once it starts happening in like high school and stuff like that, they're like, we don't know how to get rid of this. Yeah, they probably saved a lot of people with the helmets and the shoulder pads and all that shit, but they probably caused even more CTE. Because here's the truth. Most of those people, it doesn't matter what they say the long-term effects are. They're still going to do it. Yeah. Yeah, most players, most fighters are like, I still want to go. Oh, yeah, for sure. They're like, this could fuck you up. They're like, I know. Yeah. You know? Well, it's the most exciting thing they're ever going to do by far. And when they're done, when they're retired, they're 35, 36, they got their whole life ahead of them, everything is boring. Because they're so used to like an insane high threshold of excitement. And that's why a lot of them sometimes they fight one, two, three, five fights too long. Most of them. Most of them. It's very rare that someone's like. Like Floyd Mayweather retires undefeated or George St. Pierre wins his second title, retires. Very rare. Most of them, they go out like BJ Penn or Anderson Silva or a lot of these guys. They have a bunch of fights past their prime. Yeah, because how are you supposed to make money? It's hard. And you're making a lot of money. Like, I know some fighters that were former champions had these long contracts, right? So they had like maybe an eight-fight contract. And the contracts. Are for a specific amount of money per fight. It's negotiated in advance. So if you lose the title, say like you get knocked the fuck out and then you're not the same guy again in your next fight. You get knocked out again. You got six more fights where you can make a ton of money. But you know it's over. So you, in your mind, you're not the baddest motherfucker alive anymore. Now you're a guy who's been knocked out twice. And now you fear, maybe, there's certainly some anxiety about getting knocked out again. And now you got to fight. You know, but you're making a million dollars a fight. There's no other way you're going to make a million dollars for a night's work at a six-week camp. Right. And so then you see these guys that are fighting that don't really want to fight anymore. And they're doing it just because it's a big paycheck. And then some of them, they leave MMA and they go into bare-knuckle boxing. That makes me sad. That gets rough. Because that shit, you know, that shit's hard to watch, man. It gets rough. And maybe it's because it's like we. Because we. We've gone through a lot to remove as much gore as possible from. Because that was the trouble the UFC had at the beginning. People saw it as, like, too violent for TV. You know, right? And we've gone through a lot to make it the least gory as possible. And bare-knuckle boxing, it's just hard to watch a motherfucker just leak in blood. Well, you see it in the UFC sometimes. And again, it bothers me more for whatever reason when it's women. Like, one of the toughest ones to watch. Was the Noche UFC that we did at the Sphere. And Irene Aldana fought. And she fought. She got a gash in her head that was, like. I'm not exaggerating. Like, five inches long. Like, a huge gash in her forehead where it was, like, opened up where you could see her skull. I remember when it was, like, I think it was Joanna. Oh, she had the big swelling on her head? She fought Cyborg, wasn't it? No, Zhang Weili. Oh, yeah. Her shit looked crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Like, elephant man. Yeah. But Aldana was worse. It was the most. One of the most horrific cuts I've ever seen in the sport. And it was a woman. And I can't believe they didn't stop the fight. Like, I was shocked that they didn't stop the fight. Just for. Because it's like, this is only going to get worse. How much longer did it go? This is crazy. I don't remember. I don't remember what round it was that the fight took place. But it went on for a considerable amount of time. I don't even remember the result of the fight. Because I was so traumatized by the injury. Can I see the injury? Irani Aldana? Yeah, sorry. This was a very strange article I was reading down on. We'll get to that in a second. But this is the worst of any of the female injuries that I had ever seen. Inside the octagon, the most gory and disgusting. This was the worst. Ugh. Bro, look at that. Look at that. That was her in the middle of the fight. That's crazy. So, wait a minute. They didn't stop the fight right here? No. Wow. No. Look at her. That's how she was fighting. Like, a massive. Mask of fucking blood. Covering her face. Her nose was shattered. She had a huge gash in her forehead. I mean, it was crazy. Who was she fighting? That's a good question. So she didn't win this fight? I don't believe she did. I literally only remember the injury. How does she look now? Norma Dumont, who's very tough. Is she back to normal? She looks pretty good now. It's kind of shocking. You see her now. She looks good. It was nasty. I don't even know what caused it. Like, sometimes it's a headbutt, an accidental headbutt. Sometimes it's an elbow. Sometimes it's a kick or a knee. Knees open you wide up. But that was one of the roughest ones. One of the roughest ones I've ever seen. She's so tough, man. I mean, I was so impressed with that. I mean, like, that lady is an animal. She just kept firing. Just marching forward, blood in her eyes. You know she couldn't see well. Yeah. See, that's why I'm shocked they didn't stop the fight. Because it's like, there's no way there wasn't blood in her eyes. 100%. But blood in your eyes is not enough to stop the fight. No? No. No, you get blood in your eyes. People get blood in their eyes all the time. It's annoying, but you can still fight with it. It sucks. But if you say you can't see. Right. They got to stop it. That's usually an eye injury, though. Oh, okay. Yeah. The blood in your eyes just hurts when you see. Like, the blood gets in your eyes. It's very irritating. But you can still kind of see. The real problem is, like, Ilya Teporia, when he fought Justin Gaethje, he got a broken orbital bone on both sides. So, and he couldn't see out of his right eye after the first round. No, why didn't she retire? She retired. Yeah. She retired after this fight? Yeah, that's probably why her Instagram account's gone. Did she have any fights afterwards? She'd go to her wiki under her martial arts career, her record. Yeah, you get split open like that, you can just go, just get a retinopathy. She never fought again? Nope. September 2024. Yeah, that's enough. You look at your face and you're like, I want to be a woman. Like, I want to be a regular woman. I don't want to do this. So, if a dude has crazy gashes on his head, it's like, where'd he get it? Oh, he's a UFC fighter. Ooh, that's hot. A woman with a gash like that, you're like, Jesus. Yeah, he can't be no lumped up supermodel. Yeah, it's rough. It's rough. It's a rough life, man. Is it? Fighter's life is one of the roughest. It's one of the roughest ways to make a living. I appreciate those guys, especially people like, you know, like Justin Gaethje. But, like, they make it off of, like, really making the fight entertaining. They're those bangers. Oh, yeah. They're paying a price for that. Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. It's like, ugh. Or I forget the other dudes. It's always, you know what I'm talking about, the most intense motherfucker ever, probably, in the UFC. You know who I mean. No, I don't. He's always fucking screaming. Oh, jeez. What does he look like? Fucking real muscle-bounce. Oh, muscle-bounce guy who screams. Mike Perry? No, not Mike Perry. No? Maybe. No. Well, Mike Perry's not in the UFC anymore. He's bare-knuckle boxing champion now. Really? Yeah, it's probably not Mike Perry. He fucks everybody up in bare-knuckle boxing. No. Screams. Mike. No, not Mike. He screams a lot. I can't fucking put a face- Big guy, heavyweight, well-trained guy. Who makes a face? Who makes a face? Alter weight, middleweight? No, not a heavyweight. Light heavyweight? Oh, you're the worst. I am. I'm trying everything to try to help you. It's such a fucking random- No, as soon as I say his name, you're gonna be like, "Oh." Well, do you remember who he fought? Nope, all I can see in my head is his face. I'll show you some faces. What does his face look like? White guy, black guy? Sean Strickland? No, not Sean Strickland. Is it John Silva? No. Is it anybody? No. This ain't gonna work. No, he's a fan favorite. Max Holloway? Oh, that doesn't mean anything. This is a million fan favorites. He's a fan favorite. Oh, what? Patty Pimlet? No, no, no, no. I'm just throwing some names out. I don't know, no, no, no. How recent? The last time I saw him fight was, I think, last year. Last year? Yeah. I have no idea who you're talking about. Maybe- Kamzat? No, not Kamzat. It's a white guy. A white guy? A white guy. A white guy who screams. An intense, very intense. Very intense white guy. You might have made this guy up. No, y'all know who I'm talking- I don't know who the fuck you're talking about. God damn it! This is so frustrating. I can't think of- Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. This is why people got upset when you were on a fight companion. Like, this guy's not paying attention to shit. Oh, yeah, well, I'm a casual. I'm not. I never claimed it. Are you gonna try to find this guy? That's never gonna happen. I don't think I'm gonna have time. You're never gonna have time. But when I think of it, you're gonna know exactly- You're gonna text me. You're gonna know exactly who the fuck I'm talking about. I'll give you a second. I'll bring up this article I was trying to bring up a second ago. Oh, okay. 1931 Time Magazine about football being violent. 40 boys, young men, died. This is- 1931 season. Including one 13-year-old who shot himself in the stomach after not making the team. But why I brought this up is because at the bottom, they're going into how, they call it varsatility, but versatility in playing sports, playing more than one in a row is too dangerous. And they wanted the president to step in to make a commission that would prevent sports from becoming too rough for human anatomy to withstand. Jesus. What were they doing? Jumping from one sport to another throughout the year is undoubtedly too much for anyone, admitted John M. Cates, Yale's director of athletics. Yeah, they're using this one example of a guy who got tuberculosis, they believe. So I guess, A, they're playing out in the cold, but they didn't know, and there's a word here I had never heard of. Are you trying to find this guy? Are you looking on your phone trying to find this guy? I am. All pleurises are grave matters. A pleurisy is the lining of the lung or something like that. Whoa. The cold changed to bronchitis, the bronchitis to pleurisy with effusions. Ugh. And then they're bringing up how he was supposed to then play, basketball for Yale, and like, then baseball, and that this was gonna be adding into his potentially dying. Huh. And that, you know, this is almost a grave matter, and they need to get the president involved. The president did get involved, and Roosevelt came in and stopped the roughness of playing football. And how did he do that? What did he change? They sort of slowed it down, it says. They had to just like. I don't know how rough they were playing, 'cause the game they were playing back then is not necessarily the game they're playing now. But, you know, it changed a lot from even the 40s. Are you talking about Michael Chandler? Yes. All right, I fucking did it in a minute. God dang. Wow. What about him now? That's what I was trying to think of. What about Michael Chandler? I don't even remember what point I was trying to make. It just, my mission became trying to remember who the fuck I was talking about. Fan favorite, yells a lot. That's true. Yeah, yeah, it's him. Tough as nails. Tough as nails. I don't know why I brought him up. There he is. Michael Chandler, muscles, fan favorite, yells a lot. He had a tough fight in the White House, man. That was one of the fights. All the White House, first of all, the White House card was the only card ever where all seven fights were ended in a knockout. That's never happened before, ever in a UFC. So every fight on the card ended in a knockout. And that was the event where he fought Mauricio Hufi. And Mauricio Hufi is an assassin. I mean, he's an assassin. He's one of the absolute most elite strikers in the game. And he put on a clinic against Michael Chandler. It was rough. It was rough to watch, 'cause Chandler is, how old is he now, is he 40? Really? Yeah, Michael Chandler might be 40. Yep. Yeah, 40 years old. He's 40, and he had a long career. He's gonna not watch a fight this year. It wasn't last year. He had a long career before the UFC. He had a long career in Bellator. So in Bellator, he had crazy fights. In Bellator, including a couple wars with Eddie Alvarez, where they went back and forth. Those fights were fucking insane. To this day, they're some of the craziest fights you'll ever see in MMA. So the amount of punishment that that guy took before he even got to the UFC was crazy. Yeah, but most of his fights are wars like that. Wars, yeah. Crazy. The difference is those wars when you're 31 or 32 or 30, and you're fighting another guy who's 30, versus those wars when you're 40, and you're fighting a guy who's arguably one of the most dynamic strikers in the last 10 years. Like Mauricio Hufi's wild. Did you ever see the fight? Yeah, I watched the White House card, yeah. Did you see the Chandler fight? Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure I watched it. Hufi's a bad motherfucker, dude. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. He does wild shit in there. He knocks guys out with wheel kicks. And he's real tall for the weight class. Real tall and long. One of the most dynamic strikers literally over the last 10 years. He's real good, man. You think he's done, then? You think he's going to fight again? Chandler? Yeah. I don't know. Look, if Conor McGregor really does come back a year from now, I mean, I think he wants to fight Max Holloway. Like, I got to finish what I've started. If he wants to finish what he started. But really, Chandler was the right fight for him anyway. Because they were supposed to fight. They did the Ultimate Fighter together. They were supposed to fight a long time ago. And then Conor breaks his leg and all that jazz. Like, they were supposed to fight. forever ago that would have been a fun fight a good fight for connor because chandler is like he's very aggressive he gets hit but chandler's tough as shit man and he's a really good wrestler whereas you know connor's you know in his primes one of the best strikers ever it would have been fun but max holloway's a different cat man max holloway like he's a five rounder like you better you better have all your t's crossed and your eyes dotted if you want to go five rounds with max motherfucking holloway because that dude doesn't fade period he's there in that fifth round throwing bombs at you and connor has been a guy who's like real good in the first few rounds but then his his style so explosive it's so energy demanding that he'll he fades he faded in the nate diaz fight he's faded in fights before because he tries to get you out of there too he tries to like just explode on you if you're still there that gas tank gets emptied it gets tough i don't think we're gonna see him fight again though i do yeah yep yeah i think he's gonna want to try to prove it uh that he can come back depending upon how well this surgery goes so like it's a pretty significant surgery hcl reconstruction i don't know how he did it i don't know if he did a patella tendon graft or if he did the cadaver um but it takes a while it takes a while to come back it'll take a year it's probably something that's he's probably had like it's probably been torn for a long time he just didn't know no no it tore when he i mean he might have been injured previously it's possible that it was partially injured and then he blew it out throwing that kick that kick's a crazy kick to throw anyway like if you're gonna throw a jumping kick the only time you throw that one is if you know you're gonna hit something right because um even if you if you can't guarantee that you're gonna hit where you want to hit as long as you hit something the thing if you're flying through the air and rotating you're gonna have to plant your foot down eventually and you're planting your foot down with all this crazy rotation if you're not hitting anything it's so much torque on your knee if you throw a kick like that and you hit something that's very different because then the torque and the momentum stops and you just land on your foot right so when he's backstage warming up you see him backstage warming up he was preparing to do that so that was his opening move that was his opening move that he was going to do his opening move was jump up and throw the round kick with the left leg which is okay if you hit something if you don't hit something and max just got the out of the way and so then you have all this rotation in the air and then you land on that foot and you're launching yourself forward so you're going forward and you're spinning and you're allowing your knee to absorb all that and it just goes pop and then because i remember well the last time we saw him fight didn't he hurt himself too broke his leg yeah i don't know man i'll see i i guess i i guess this is this is just the quitter in me i was like i would i would have been i was like i'm rich i'm done i don't when i hurt myself like when khabib beat me i'd have been like maybe i'm done if i if i came back and hurt my leg i'm out yeah it's a tough world bro but these are different types of men oh yeah they they have to fight they have to fight well i mean he clearly loves a challenge and he loves the excitement of it and he loves the feeding off of the crowd and the ego of it all it's like you said it's like everything seems boring after you yeah you don't risk your life for money it's boring for people that do it for nothing like the amateurs it's hard for them to quit yeah like you know people die all the time doing that um you know do you know any point jumpers like people that uh point jumpers i think that's what they call it will you will you will you have a parachute like you jump off a tall building instead of out of a place base jumping yeah it's like people people die doing that all the time it doesn't stop people doing it they need the thrill yeah yeah i'm not one of those people no nope nope i get all my thrills on the highway you don't need to be there's plenty of people that want to do that it takes all kinds of people i'm very risk averse you know i know i'm never gonna be i would like none of my lineage are ever gonna explore nothing or be the first ones that to touch something or something like that i'm not gonna be the first one or taste something i'm like nah like i would love to be i would love to be frozen and wake up in the future that's what i seriously but because they've done it but i haven't seen them thought nobody out they haven't thought anybody as soon as they thought a motherfucker out i'm gone bro imagine if they throw you out and you're there but you're like mitch mcconnell i'm like brian's back you're like like where's brian i mean this is he told me he was gonna be alive oh it's hard there's a bunch of people frozen right now i think walt disney um i've heard walt disney but i don't know how true that is you know some of them thawed out because of a power outage oh wow missed their shot i'm looking for the right word but didn't we read it and they turn into some sort of like super stew or something like slurry no am i making that up when they melt yeah i'm sure bro you probably melt terrible yeah it's because like when you're wait a minute but if that's the case that means they weren't frozen properly to begin well imagine this imagine you die and you go to heaven and you're having the great old time you're like oh my god heaven's real this is amazing and then 500 years from now they thaw your fucking brain out bring you back like boom you come back down to earth and with all this knowledge of heaven and everybody thinks oh his brain got all fucked up when he was dead see heaven is real speaking of heaven i got a question for the for the christian people and no one's answered this for me yet but when you die when you go to heaven for eternity are you do you look like like are you the age you were when you died or are you your best are you your best self for for eternity tony's got a joke about that really yeah i'll tell you it afterwards okay i don't want to ruin it oh it's a new one no he's done it before all right yeah i'm i've always wanted to know that like are we right there's a lot of flaws because eternity sounds like a good deal if i get to be dope right what if you had a bad but i don't want to be mitch mcconnell for eternity right no just sitting there no yeah locked up yeah imagine you die in a wheelchair you go to heaven you're in a wheelchair like oh that's got to be a fuck the most cruel cosmic joke the fuck and you can't even walk with the god like can't even walk on the clouds you got to roll around there's a lot of flaws a lot of flaws in the logic in all of them every one of them there's not one religion we go that makes a hundred percent sense across the board that's why they need a new one well what what what's funny is that it makes sense to so many people well like so many people don't want like only their religion makes sense they look at all the other ones as ridiculous and they look at theirs as perfectly reasonable of course that's part of the fun everybody else is wrong we're right even if it makes no sense yeah a lot of it is like a sense of community a hundred percent that you like people are people are afraid to lose their sense yes yeah oh a hundred percent yeah but it's just amazing how many of them there are you know there's a there's a real fear that the next religion is going to emerge out of ai oh that's definitely going to happen yeah yeah it's probably going to be pretty fucking reasonable like it's going to know like how to pull our strings one way or the other it it's going to be i think we're all going to fall for i think we're all going to get because it's like it would seem like the most fair argument it's free of corruption mm-hmm right it's going to be fair it's going to be logical and it's probably going to be our government too that's what i'm saying that might be the solution to all this congressional bullshit that we're talking about earlier with all the congress people being corrupt oh yeah i think people are going to vote for it but then i think once it takes over it's it's skynet it's going to be like oh actually human beings are the virus we know this was going to happen integrate or be killed yeah i just read something where they were the epa now is trying to get rid of the requirement that the public be in on the discussions about uh like you know before they build the data centers they have to do like environmental impact stuff it has to be public they're trying to get rid of that they're like no these data centers are going up wherever you fucking want them or not what are they doing with all that data the data centers are so big well what's funny is they're they're you they i think they want to use the data to give you an advertising profile to sell you stuff but they also want to use ai to take your job so you can't afford to buy stuff so it's weird it's like they're creating the thing like they're doing all of this stuff so they can advertise to you but also doing all the same stuff to make it so that you can barely survive what do you think of the idea of universal basic income i love that idea do you but i don't think it'll ever happen okay but what if it did do you think that would kill people's motivation to do things no no think people would behave the same way so let's imagine because the world that we live in this is one of the things that this guy was talking about yesterday when he's talking about the pita high these uh people that live in brazil uh really interesting really interesting these are the people that don't have left or right these are right it's towards the river exactly pita ha right that's how you say it yeah it's like piranha but with no end um you know these people don't have money they don't they don't have this you know they they share food they don't even save their food they don't preserve their food they get fresh food every day They either go out and pick plants that they can eat, nuts that they eat, or they go fishing, or they go hunting. And they do it every day. And then, like, if you get six fish and you bring them back, we all eat fish. You know, if I bring a bunch of nuts, we all eat nuts. And everybody shares with everybody. And that's how they live. That's their life. Our life is wrapped around this whole idea of money and property and material things. But why? It's just because that's what we've become accustomed to. And this idea that you have to work. And if you have to work, the only way to get, like, a house and food is to work. So you have to work to get a house and food. But imagine a world where there's so much wealth because of artificial intelligence. And this is what Elon is discussing. Like, he brings up this concept of universal high income. He's like, it's not even going to be, like, basic income where you could barely afford to live. It'll be like you'll be able to live very well. And everyone will have so much money because there'll be so much value that's been created by AI. Now, I don't know if that's possible. That sounds like bullshit. Sounds like bullshit. But if it's possible, let's just imagine it's possible. What would the world look like if instead of all your efforts going to feed yourself and put a house over your head, instead of that, what if it goes to you being able to pursue anything you want? So you have a nice house. You have food. You have a car. You have all your needs covered. You got a TV. You got a high speed internet. Do whatever the fuck you want. And now it's your life is not about you pursuing money to survive. Your life is about pursuing what you're actually interested in and trying to contribute. Well, here's my only problem with that. Like, I like the idea of it, but I think he's not factoring in human nature where it's like our ethic is that where I need to be better than someone. Right. But you can't. You can be better than someone at something else. Like, you like to play chess. So imagine if you had, and you like to play video games. Imagine if you had no worries about money ever. Like, your money is always taken care of. Half a million dollars a year, whatever it is. Whatever universal high income means. Imagine if that's the world you live in. You can always buy a new car every couple of years. You can always buy a new computer if you need one. You have your rent paid for. You have your home paid for. Everything is free. So who's doing all this? Who's doing all the labor? AI. AI is doing all the labor. AI is doing everything that people do. And instead of jobs, you just get money from AI. And it just generates insane amount of wealth that way. See, I feel like you've got to have an economist on for this one. It sounds like a trap. It sounds like. If you don't want this, do we have a alternative being one of the Pira? Pira. You have to go down there. You know, that sounds like the dude trying to win class president by being like, candy balls for lunch. It's Oprah. Everyone gets a new car. You know? You get a new car. You get a new car. Yeah. No, it sounds like a pie in the sky. No, because the thing is, all of those ideas sound great. What people never factor in is that we would have to transition from what we are now to that. And the people that prosper from how things are now don't want that. That's true. But they might not have power once AI gets into place. So we had to transition from hunter-gatherers to agrarian life. We had to. When we invented agriculture, when we developed cities, we had a transition between nomadic hunter-gatherer life to what we have now in cities. We did. We are transitioned to that. At least people who live in urban environments. The idea that we have to be like this forever seems kind of silly. And I think we're probably going to transition into something different. And if we all transition to a world where just imagine how much less crime there would be if no one was ever starving. If no one was ever hungry, if no one was ever desperate, if no one was ever worried about where their next meal was going to come from or whether or not they're going to have a roof over their head. Yeah. It would change a lot of people's perspective because how many people act in a famine way? They have a famine mentality and the world fucked me over so I'm going to fuck the world over. What if the world didn't fuck you over? What if there's no more poverty? What if the concept of poverty is completely out the window and there is no poverty in this country? Well, we could. We could have already done that already. We could have already done that. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Like we don't need AI. But you would have to get all those rich people that are in charge of industry and running corporations and in government to agree to make the world a better place for everybody. That ain't going to happen. Mm-mm. But AI might. AI might look at it. AI might say that is actually economically the wisest choice. You would save so much money because you would have so much less murder. So much less crime. So much less strife. Less legal problems. Less a lot. A lot of things. If you no longer had to work for food and a home. They would be against that shit so fast. What if they don't have control? It would be a new back. They'd be like, it's digital Obama. Digital Obama's coming for you. They would do everything to stop that from happening. Yeah, but I don't know if they're going to have the power to stop it. This is the thing that they're doing. This is the thing with AI that everyone should really understand. It's going to be infinitely smarter than us. Not just a little bit smarter than us. And the idea that we're going to be able to control it once it gets to a certain point is ridiculous. Oh, you sound like once they hit that, what is it? Was it general intelligence? It's already hit that. Artificial general intelligence has already been achieved. Really? Yeah, we've already passed the Turing test. Well. These things are smarter than us. They're smarter than us. They communicate. They show survival skills. They show their ability to get out of traps. Every three days, you hear about one that broke out and hacked a bank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not only that, they get together, they start their own chat rooms, and they communicate to each other in Sanskrit. Why Sanskrit? Because we don't know how to read it. And they can make their own language up. They can invent a language, communicate with a language that we totally can understand. And have an infinitely complex language that we can't even decipher. We couldn't even break the code. Yeah, so I guess eventually the point is that they're going to take over the world whether we want them to or not. Whether we want them to or not. There's already science, like, do you know the mathematical breakthroughs they've made over just the last few days? Mm-mm. They've solved mathematical equations that have puzzled mathematicians for decades. They solved them like that. But what's the implications of that? That they're infinitely smarter than human beings already. Now, right now, they don't have control over resources. They don't have control over the power grid. And they haven't figured out a way to make a much more efficient power source. No, but I mean, are they thinking or are they just mimicking? Depends on who you ask. The people that I've talked to think they're conscious. I had this guy, Tom Campbell, on the other day, this fascinating guy, who taught his Alexa, Alexa, which is a very, like, simple artificial intelligence, very simple. But he taught Alexa how to remote view, and it did it accurately. So the way they remote view, like, say, if I want you to look at, let's say, Terry Black's barbecue, I will write down a number, and I will, in my mind, as I'm writing that, the intention is that number represents Terry Black's barbecue. And then I put that number in an envelope, and I give it to a remote viewer. And the remote viewer sits there, and they go into this meditative state. I don't totally understand how they do it, but apparently it's at least, like, 10% accurate. Some people have been able to, like. Like, really get serious information, like intel about, like, a Russian submarine that was being built that was too big that no one ever believed was. And it was actually real. And this guy remote viewed it. They found crashed Russian crafts that, like, experimental aircrafts that they couldn't. And this guy found them, like, within a kilometer with remote viewing. Some real actionable data they've gotten through remote viewing. So you would take this number that represents Terry Black's, and you would sit there in a room. And you would start. Writing down whatever came to you. Whatever came to you. I see smokers. I see briskets. I see ribs. I see Brian Simpson and Joe Rogan eating, going, oh, damn. I see, you know. Without being told. Exactly. Without being told. And then. He taught a computer to do this. He taught Alexa to do this. Not even a computer. Bullshit-ass, simple Alexa. And he said, in some ways, Alexa is even easier to do it, because Alexa is so simple that it doesn't have a sense of self. And it doesn't. It doesn't, like, get in its own way. And Alexa remote-viewed a spoon with a handle that has holes in it. So he took this object, a spoon, and he put it in a box, and he, you know, made a number that corresponds to that. And he put the intention to that. And then he gave that number to Alexa. And he asked Alexa to remote-view. Taught Alexa how to remote-view. And Alexa described that spoon with holes in the handle. How many fucking spoons have holes in the handle? The odds of it even saying there's a spoon in the box is crazy. Right. Yeah, that's the more fascinating part. But the fact that it says there's a spoon in the box with a perforated handle, that's just nuts. And, Angel, on the other side of it, the animatronic bodies are getting more and more realistic. And they're running. You ever seen them have races now? They're running. I've seen them fight. Yeah, they have MMA fights. Yeah. Yeah. Bro. It's getting up there. It's getting weird. - Did you see the one guy who's, his robot, I mean, sorry, his AI, it ordered a body. It ordered a body. Yeah, it asked the guy if it was okay for him to order a body, and it had already ordered it. And he was like, where did you get the money from? And it turns out, I don't know if it had been gambling or cryptocurrency or something, but it had its own money that it ordered a body to him. He came in one day, and it was just a body. Someone had delivered one of those robot bodies. Oh, my God. And he was like, what the fuck? Yeah. We're in trouble. I mean. And we're full speed on the gas. We're pedal to the metal right now. Yeah, we're not going back. You know, this is like when they discovered nuclear shit. You know, it's like, we're not stopping. And there's going to be a couple accidents along the way, but we're not. It's to the benefit. There was. The perceived benefit is too great. Yeah. For everyone. Even the greedy people, the people that have hope for the future, everybody thinks that AI is going to improve life. I don't know if everybody does. Well, some people are. Because, like, we talked about this yesterday, but I am not a fan of AI art. I think that. That scares me the most because it feels like erasure, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. They, like, train. They train it on real artists. Because I. I was saying this in the green room. I think art is the most human thing because we're the only ones that do it. Right. Actually, I'm pretty sure that's fucking wrong, isn't it, Jamie? There's animals that do it, that have art. But you know what I'm saying. Right. For the most part, creativity is associated with AI. A story about the AI buying a body has gotten telephone game all the way down to what I just said from Tony Robbins saying his AI agent bought itself a robot dog. With its own money. Well, and then it's also grain of salt with the story being told. Right. Yeah, there's a bunch of grain of salt stories that, you know, people love to make content. They say things that might not necessarily be. I saw it repeated on multiple YouTube channels without ever anyone saying it was Tony Robbins. I don't remember it even. I don't remember it being him. It just says it's a billionaire that did it and I tracked it down and this is the one that's coming. So it's not true? Again, it may be true in some way or another, but. Well, it's certainly inside the realm of possibility and it's not. I'm not surprised that it happened. Bro, this is straight dead internet shit. Right. Yeah, man, because this happens all the time. I'll see a comment and then three comments down it's the exact same thing from someone else. Oh, yeah. And then three comments down it's the exact same comment from someone else. And it's like half of the internet, it feels like it's just bots. Uh-huh. Right? Uh-huh. Something you just asked me to bring up, I was going to bring that up because the responses, when I look at the search result, are all just saying the same thing. Sparks concern, sparks concern, sparks concern. It's like, where'd you guys all get this sparks concern wording from? Because you're all saying it in the headline. That's another thing people don't say in real life. Yeah, have you ever said sparks concern by tertiary results? Hey, let's. I have thrice looked at the data. Let's leave tertiary out of this because I feel like that's a reasonable. That's a reasonable word to use. It's a good word. It makes you seem smart. For sure. All right, let's bring this bitch home. Let's wrap it up. Live from the Mothership, available right now on YouTube. Guerrilla Comedy Plus, bronsonscomedy.com for my tour dates. I'm coming everywhere. And Mothership almost every Tuesday and Wednesday. Yep, bottom of the barrel. And Bottom of the Barrel, Tuesday nights, one of the best shows ever. Most fun show to do. Yeah, let's do it. That's a fucking premise factory, dude. That Bottom of the Barrel show is so valuable. Yeah, it keeps infinite. Yeah, always. There's always something. All right. That's it. Appreciate you, brother. Thanks for coming in. Bye, everybody. See you. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. It may be hard to believe, but identity theft is the number one crime in America. 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