#2522 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. What's up? What's going on? What's happening? Chaos, I love it. Everything. Yeah. The world's crazy. The center of the storm. I think the world's back at war today again, like officially, right? I don't think that agreement with Iran lasted at all. Which one? I think there was bombings today in Lebanon, and I think there's bombings today in American bases. I try to not pay attention, dude. I really do. I try to distract myself with science stuff and space. I was watching this documentary yesterday on how they make chips, like how they make like semiconductor chips. Dude, this fucking machine that they use. I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because it's bananas. It's like one of the most complex machines in the world, and this machine they use to make semiconductors, make chips, and they were explaining the process of making these chips, how fucking nuts it is, man. The amount of atoms that are stacked on and like the way they do it to make these like super complex high-end chips. There's people out there, Tony, that are doing things way different than I am. They're doing things way different than us, okay? We're out there talking about sucking dicks and people shitting themselves, and what's going on in other parts of the world is people are doing science fiction, like they're actually doing science fiction. Here it is. Give me a second. I like to save things. Here it is. The world's most important machine. It's an hour long? Yes. Did you find it? Yeah, it's an hour long. Yeah, but just go to the. There's some animation where they show how they make these things. It was right where you were at. This is right at the beginning. Okay. Okay, so they're just showing some of the different aspects of how these things are made. Go back to where that guy had the laser beam. That's perfect, actually, where that guy had the laser beam. This is him explaining this. Look at this. Back it up a little bit and give me some volume. Get back it up a little bit, please. I want to introduce it to you with a thought experiment. Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an end, and you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt through metal like butter. Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin, roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot out in front of you around 250 kilometers per hour, and your task is to hit this not once, not twice, but three times in a row in 20 microseconds. Okay. With your little laser. Well, that is exactly what this machine does. It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row, heating each one up to over 220,000 Kelvin. That's roughly 40 times hotter than the surface of the sun. And it doesn't just hit one droplet. It hits 50,000 droplets every single second. How often do you miss a laser shot? We don't miss them. What? You do 150,000 laser shots a second, and you don't miss one. Exactly. The same machine also contains mirrors that might just be the smoothest objects in the universe. If you scale one up to the size of the Earth, then the largest bump would be no thicker than a playing card. What the fuck? On top of that, it is able to overlay one layer of a chip perfectly on top of another and never be off by more than five atoms. And this is all happening while parts of the machine whip around at accelerations of over 20 Gs. For 30 years, almost everyone thought that actually building a laser machine would be impossible. And yet, it exists. There is only one company in the world that can make it. So what is this company, and what is this impossible machine they've built? This video is. There you go. That's it. Wow. Yeah. What are they doing with that? All computers, like computer chips that are getting better and better and better. All these AI chips, this is how they make them. One interesting thing I can just add, I know when they make those, they make like a big sheet of chips, you know? Like there'll be like 30 or 50 of them. They'll test each one, and the ones that are the best, like test out like one out of 100. The ones that are like closest to 100 become like the i9 chip. And if it's like 85 out of 100, it becomes like the i7 chip. Oh, really? So they all come off the same sheet. Interesting. So it's like the best ones become the best chips. They sell them for the most money. And the next one's not. They're just a little degraded. No kidding. Interesting. So there was that issue with that Samsung chip factory, and it was about. They weren't getting the results that they wanted. So it's probably they were getting more of the shitty chips, and not enough of the perfect chips. Yeah, they want really high-end chips, and they're really, really hard to make. You could smoke. We have a fan in here, dude. Sweet. Yeah. I mean, imagine if everybody died, and it was just us in this room, and there was like three late. Well, it'd be more than that. We'd have to have more people. Otherwise, we're gonna fuck up the gene pool. We're all gonna look like the English royals. We need. We probably need a few thousand people. A few thousand people, like regular people, like you and I that don't know shit about how these things work. Yeah. How much time would we need if we repopulated the Earth with what we know? Basically, you're starting out like a fucking half-assed prepper, like someone who was on an episode of Lost, like one of those plane crash people trying to figure out how to survive out there. You're fucked. Oh, yeah. You're not inventing that. Uh-uh. How long is it gonna take? Infinity. Infinity. And how many people have to pave the way? This is the thing. For every one of these people that makes an invention like this, you're making this on the back of thousands and thousands and thousands of fucking super geniuses that have figured out each and every step of the way that can lead you to thinking, "Is this possible that we could do this next?" They all build on each other. So you need all these guys and hopefully they don't get any pussy because otherwise they're gonna get distracted. Yeah. You know? I bet if one of them gets a hot wife, like one of their patents kicks and they start making bank and then all of a sudden he shows up for work in a Ferrari, and next thing you know he's got a hot wife, everybody's like, "Oh my God." Yeah. Civilization just went back a hundred, two hundred years. Yeah. We're gonna lose Tim. Yeah. Tim's taking it out. We're all coding 18 hours a day trying to figure out how to get us to Mars. Actually, that's a bad point because Elon clearly gets pussy. And doesn't seem to be affecting him at all. 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It's fascinating how many people want to find flaws in what he's doing instead of just looking at this like, wow, this is an extraordinary time to be alive. But it's because of this narrative that people have. have. One of them, the big one is this USAID is killing people narrative, that people have died because of USAID. And then a bunch of people have given examples of how them cutting the funding has led to the end of certain people's lives, like where they were in hospitals that didn't have any funding. And there's a lot of that that you could point to say, right, if they had the money, they would have had the funding and they would have had that equipment in place, or maybe they wouldn't have. But here's the other thing. That's not discounting the fact that a lot of that money is fraud. Yeah, a lot of it. Like it's not a little amount. And the idea that you should let it go on, because it's going to save lives. And there's a bunch of people that are stealing money. Okay, I see that argument. But why are we sending the money in the first place? Like, did we do something to them? Do we owe them money? No. Okay, we're just being nice. Are you sure we're just being nice? Is there anybody profiting off of us being nice? Because usually just being nice for no reason, and just giving tax money away for no reason. I don't think they do that. I don't think that's real. I used to think that was real. I used to think that charity was real. And now I look and I go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a giant scam that's wrapped up in virtue. It's wrapped up in a nice cozy blanket of being kind and compassionate and virtuous and doing good things for people all around the world. I think a lot of people get involved in those things, because that's what they think. Good people. I really believe that. And then they find out how it really works. And then they get stuck in that system. And then they're making their way up their, you know, air quotes, corporate ladder to the point where some of them are making a million dollars a year. And you're like, what is this? What is this? This is a business. This isn't really charity. Most of the money is going to your employees and your overhead. And you're like, why do you have such a big building? Like, what are you doing? How come you're not just funneling the money to these people? Exactly. Like a fire aid. Great example. Spencer Pratt told me, how many, what number did he say of nonprofits got that money? So over $100 million gets raised. I don't know the exact total. All of it goes to these different nonprofits. I think he said 200 different nonprofits got the money. And then what happens to that? Well, they just pay their employees. They pay overhead. They pay their rent on fucking nice office on wherever they live. Fuck, man. It's so disheartening because you've, so that's what all that stuff is. And it's also, if you listen to when Mike Benz has been on my podcast a few times and explains USAID, people think of it as aid. You think of it as, oh, we're helping the world, which is great, right? But it's not that. It's the Agency for International Development. And it involves funding rap bands overseas that are the subversive rap bands that are supposed to, you know, excite people to take over the government. There's like a bunch of like weird shit, funds rebels. It funds newspapers. And what was he talking about? Like there was a lot of it, like funding rap music. Like, this is crazy. People have long said that rap music, even though, listen, you love hip hop. I know you just got back from Kanye West. I'm a huge hip hop fan. You got to talk about that at some point. We definitely do. I love hip hop. But there's people that believe that gangsta rap in particular, when it came about in the 1980s, was a part of the push to popularize it and produce it, was a part of the government, some faction of the government, some intelligence agencies wanting to create more crime, wanting to fill more private prisons, wanting to erode the fabric of society so they could push for more laws to keep you safer. This is like, one of the most tinfoil-y of tinfoil hat conspiracies. But people are pointing out that right now it's like one of the rare times where no rap music is on the charts. And they're saying, well, how does this coincide with USAID? Was USAID like actively promoting rap music? Was that one of the reasons why rap music was so popular? Is that real? That can't be real. Maybe back in the day, it seems like that would be more manipulative. I don't think so. I believed that until I heard mumble rap. I'm like, this is not real. This is trying to make people stupid. There's something about this. And obviously, some artists are better at it than others. Some of them are fun the way they do it. But I'm saying there's a giant chunk of them that are inaudible. Who's into this? Oh, almost all of them are inaudible. What's going on there? Imagine if that was it. It was like, people heard Nas and this guy, he's smart. We got to dumb it down a little. We got to promote some people that can barely talk. We got to promote some people that are on cough syrup, apparently. Have you ever done that cough syrup? No. They seem to love it. A lot of dudes who are into that cough syrup, man, they swear by it. It's crazy. It's got to be fun. It's got to be enjoyable. Is it codeine? Is that what they're doing? I think so. Have you done it, Jamie? Bro, we talked about this before, but I remember back in the 90s, I got a hold of some NyQuil, the real NyQuil. I guess they changed the formula for NyQuil. And I had whatever, the flu or something. And I took some NyQuil and I was laying in bed and I was like, this is wonderful. It was wonderful. Just the warmth, the softness of the pillows and the warmth of the bed with the covers over me, I'm like, oh, this is wonderful. And I remember thinking, ooh, this is dangerous. Oh, yeah. This is a dangerous feeling because if your life was shit and you found that, that's better than anything else that's happening in your life. And you can get it at CVS. Crazy. What was in the old NyQuil before they switched it? I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm afraid of medicine. So this stuff probably was like sitting in my house if I took it. So it might've even been older than 97 or 98, whenever this was that I was sick. But I'll never forget it because I never forget getting scared. I could love this. I could just drink this during the day and just sit on my back porch if I have the day off. Just get obliterated with NyQuil and just enjoy the universe. I told you about that time I took a half of the pain pill that the dentist gave me for my wisdom tooth. I was like, oh, fuck, this is life changing. It says the earliest NyQuil formula include ephedrine, which is a decongestant, doxyam, doxylamine, sucinate, which is an antihistamine, acetaminophen, dextromethorphan, cough suppressant, and about 25% alcohol. Oh, I was getting drunk too. Wow. What changed in the mid 2000s after the combat methamphetamine? There it is. They removed pseudoephedrine. So was that the stuff? So it was. There is NyQuil with codeine though, right? What I had was pretty good. I don't think it was as simple. Yeah. You had the stuff they could make meth out of or whatever. Yeah. Okay. We'll put it in perplexity. And perplexity says in the mid 2000s, yeah, NyQuil brands sold in the US do not contain codeine and there's never been a standard Vicks NyQuil with codeine in its active ingredient so does any cough syrup have codeine in it? That's what lean is. They add it or is it just prescription cough syrup? That was the whole thing about it. Maybe I am fucking up my memory and maybe it wasn't NyQuil because whatever it was, it seemed like I fucked up off NyQuil, but you have to drink like the whole bottle. You get NyQuil, like just get fucked up. I definitely didn't drink the whole bottle. I know I took a dose, like a strong dose. I mean, you're just a little bit on the side. See, the thing is it's so long ago. I can't remember. I say NyQuil because it's like saying Q-tips, you know, or Kleenex just because it's tissues or ear swabs. I don't know if it was NyQuil, but it was cough syrup, whatever the fuck it was. And I felt wonderful. And I remember thinking like, this could be a real problem. Like that one day in bed, cause I'm always scared of stuff like that. I'm always scared to get, I knew too many people when I was growing up that got hooked on stuff and it just derailed their life. So lying in bed, I was like, this is good. No more of this. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. I got a knee surgery once. They gave me morphine. They made morphine in a drip. And they say that you can only hit that button so many times it stops giving to you. But every time you feel pain, you can just hit the button. Cause I was on like a perpetual motion machine. So my legs going, and I'm just like, bang, bang, bang, bang. This episode is brought to you by Zip Recruiter. We all like to find ways to save ourselves some time. Like and subscribe to Zip Recruiter. Like ordering out for dinner or meal prepping. So you don't have to cook during the week. If you're a business owner looking to hire a great time-saving hack is Zip Recruiter. It's newest feature lets you meet the most interested, qualified candidates first. Try it out free at ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. And it doesn't just let you meet candidates faster. You can hear why they're interested in their own words. Save time and meet great candidates soon with ZipRecruiter. Four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a Quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. That's ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter. The closest I come to that, because I've never had like a serious surgery or anything, but I go to this, they have a dental office here in Austin called the Austin Dental Spa. So their whole thing is like a luxurious dental experience. And they will hook you up to laughing gas and they let you, like, if they're like, they're like, you want a little more? And I'm like, okay, yeah. And that's like the closest I get to it is once every six months or so I go there. And dude, I'm always excited about this fucking experience. It is so awesome. Do you ever come up with bits after doing laughing gas? Does it give you any ideas? No, but during the thing, it makes me weirdly honest. You ever seen in Kill Bill when he shoots her in the knee with the honest gun? Because he was a chemist. For like a little bit. Living is like his secret job. So he comes up with this truth serum. And I've noticed that it makes me like weirdly very honest. So one time when I was in the dental office, the guy's doing whatever. And I'm like, and I'm jacked on laughing gas because it's not really, you're not really like cracking up. You're just like in heaven. And you're like, it's kind of smiling ear to ear. And I remember going like, how long did you go to school for dental school? And he's like, whatever the answer is like eight years. And I'm like, did you ever think about going longer? And becoming a real doctor? And I realized like kind of in the moment, even though I was fucked up, like that's, that sounds mean. But I think they're totally used to it. I think they know that laughing gas makes people fucking. I bet they're not used to that, dude. That's so mean. That's not supposed to. That's what I'm saying. It's like a dangerously. A real doctor. A dangerous truth serum. Some people want to be dentists. Yeah. We need them too. Yeah. You know? Crazy gig. Yeah. That's a weird one. I know. You might show us bad breath they smell. And just weird things lodged in teeth for God only knows how long. When I got my root canal, one of the reasons why I had to get it is because I had a cap on my tooth or a filler, whatever it is. What's it called? Filling. No. When they just fill your tooth up. Why can't I remember? Filling. Fillings. Why did I say filler? Whatever. Yeah. It was an old school one. You know, it was like white plastic. And when I was a kid, I used to have them. They were like fucking lead. They used to give you lead fillings, which is crazy. Like kids had lead in their mouth. And it was hurting. It was bothering me. So what had happened was I had cracked the tooth and it had gotten infected underneath the filling. So he takes the filling out and drills into it. And the smell that came out of my mouth, it was puss. All this puss came out. And it's fucking horrific. Horrific smell. I was like, oh my God, is that coming out of my mouth? Yeah. He's like, oh, that's normal. It's decay. Right. There's an infection under here. We're going to treat it. You're going to be fine. Yeah. Piece of elk from seven years ago. That was a long time ago. This is a long time ago. It was before I was hunting, I think. But it was, you know, people die from that stuff, which is really crazy. Like if you don't take care of your teeth and you get that kind of infection, those kind of infections can become septic. Yeah. Well, it's nuts. Sometimes I'll do a thing. Or I'll water floss after I brush my teeth just to see what would have been left in there if I just did what normal humans do. Because I'm one of those high pressure water flossers that I fucking love. Complete game changer for life. And it's insane what will jet out of there. We'll get stuck deep in between the teeth and everything. And, you know, I think for the most part, I do it before I brush. But every once in a while, I'll be like, I wonder if there's anything left in there. You know? Yeah. You have to floss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get a bunch of shit stuck in there. And even then, sometimes I'll regular floss and then brush my teeth. And just out of curiosity, go, I wonder if there's anything left in there. And I'll do a one silver with the water flosser. And you see like, ding, ding, ding, three little things come out. And it's like, that would have marinated in between my teeth or in the back of my gum line or whatever. Yeah. That's not good. But according to my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar. He thinks if you go back and you look at like when people started developing serious cavities, it's. I mean, people have always. People have always had abscesses and broken teeth. And there's always been like dental problems that haunted people. Because back in the day, man, they just pull the tooth out and then who knows what kind of infection you still have in there and they don't treat it. In the 1700s, if you broke your tooth and got an infection, you could be fucking dead. Yeah. You know, you could die from that shit. But he was saying that the amount of cavities like steeply increased when people started putting sugar in everything. And then kids started drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary candy. And that stuff gets stuck in your teeth. He's like, I think that's the cause of it. Yeah. And probably high fructose corn syrup is probably just as bad or if not worse than actual sugar. That stuff's not good for your body. That's for sure. Your body doesn't like it. Someone explained to me what's the difference in the absorption of high fructose corn syrup versus natural cane sugar. I completely forget how they explained it. But they were basically saying that there's some issues with how the body breaks it down. When you drink a soda, just think about that. Where in nature do you get. You get 20 grams of sugar just in liquid form. And you just pump it down. Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug. Ah, refreshing. Crazy. My buddy that I went to school with just flew in from Hawaii, which is where he's lived for like 20 years. He's like a wilderness guy. Climbs trees and cuts down his own pineapples and coconuts and stuff all the time. He's got a great life. And he checked a bag this trip just a few days ago. And he brought it to the mothership because that's where we met up. And he surprised me with this checked bag that had the moldings built in and everything. It had four coconuts and two white Hawaiian pineapples, I think they're called, which run like $65 each or something in the U.S. It's impossible to get. And according to him, I don't know. He's a real hippy-dippy type. Is that the dude that you brought to the mothership? Yeah, Anthony. Your friend from high school. Yep. Which is crazy. Yeah. He's the man. He's just a real dude. It's crazy when you know people for that long. Yeah. Yeah. And so this dude is just living in Hawaii, living his best life. And I mean, holy shit. These fucking pineapple. He's like, dude, you're going to love this pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. He just kept going on about it. I'm like, all right, okay. Sure enough, holy fucking shit, man. It's nature can deliver you a sugar dose because he was saying that white Hawaiian pineapples have higher sugar but much lower acidity than what we're used to, so it makes a whole different, and since obviously it's natural sugar and this and that, it just makes a whole different type of fucking fruit. It's crazy. Sounds good. Wild how we have to go other places to get unbelievable shit. Well, of course, Hawaii. Yeah. Hawaii really should be its own country. Yeah. Listen, I love Hawaii. I'm glad they're protected by the United States. People are cool as fuck. It should be its own country. It's five hours by plane. I mean, come on, man. Yeah. White pineapples, primarily known as sugar loaf. Or white jade pineapples. Highly prized, rare variety grown in Hawaii. Unlike standard yellow, they feature creamy white flesh, practically no acidity, and a completely edible core. It was great. And fucking, he climbs a goddamn tree like a little fucking monkey boy. Normal little white dude. How did he wind up in Hawaii? He's a real free spirit. He always was. I think he just went out there, visited, and stayed. He's the kind of guy that just gets a one-way ticket places and figures it out as he goes. He's in Youngstown right now. That shows you how adventurous and crazy he is. He's like, I'm going to spend a week and a half there. I'm like, a week and a half in Youngstown. Why is he doing that? Visit family and friends, he said. Is there a good hotel to stay at in Youngstown? No. And I even had to look this up recently because I'm like, I'm not staying at the crazy hotel that I stayed at last time I was there. So I'm like, best hotel in Youngstown. And the funniest thing is, the actual closest option was in Pennsylvania, like 50 minutes away. Truly. I mean, there's one like double tree downtown, but it's in an area of absolute chaos. I mean, just death wish. Do you ever go back there and go, I can't believe I grew up here? Always. 100% of the time. I got a feeling for it immediately when I went to LA and I didn't hear police sirens anymore. Like, as often, at least. You know what I mean? Isn't that funny? In LA, with LA's crime. That's what I always thought. I'm like, oh, this is going to be crazy. I've heard these Tupac songs. Like, this is going to be nuts. And it was. That was USA. So peaceful. Yeah, exactly. So peaceful. In Youngstown, at least when I was growing up there, you could hear a police siren or an ambulance siren almost at any point of the day. God. Wow. My buddy sent me a shirt recently, too. Another buddy that has the stats on it of us. Being the murder capital. I think it was 90, 91 and 96 per capita, not the biggest population, but per capita, it was the most dangerous place you could be when I was in those most developmental years when a kid shouldn't be having his head next to the window. Yeah, there it is. I got that shirt. Wow. Four time defending champion, murder capital of America. Wow. Yup. In '01, '02. That puts me as a sophomore. a sophomore and junior in high school. 97 i'm 11 12 and you're being raised by your mom yeah on the north on the craziest fucking area of the whole goddamn thing the most dilapidated part of the north side of youngstown wow yeah i can't believe it that's why like every part of my fucking story i'm like this is so goddamn weird so weird it is when you think about it right when you really stop and think about it doesn't seem real 60 years ago this ohio city was named crimetown usa yeah crimetown 75 bombings yep oh this was the mob days yeah so it used to be a mob run town right totally they were called bomb town yeah it was a youngstown tune-up is a car bomb look at this 75 bombings 11 killings in a decade and no one seems to care they were so nuts in youngstown that somebody tried to kill them the actual prosecutor the actual da oh isn't that normal they always try to do that well it's kind of the stupidest craziest thing you could do because then the entire fbi comes down on you it's a little short-sighted to go uh we're gonna kill the main cop of this city and not think that anything's going to happen from that well we beat the game you beat the main cop imagine trying to be an intelligent businessman and also a mob leader imagine like pulling out of a car and then you're like oh my god i'm gonna kill the actual prosecutor playing things out in advance and but also you're a mob leader there was a lot of that going on and i got to see quite a bit of it like there were uh let's put it this way mall developers in youngstown and things like that and i got to see firsthand very young that they were communicating with politicians at lunchtime and stuff because i was working at this little italian restaurant at the time right out of high school and um and having they were having these quiet meetups in a quiet in the corner of a quiet italian restaurant and you would see these huge moguls you know i won't name any names but big business people in youngstown meeting with the local this and that and congressman i got to meet that congressman and that congressman because they're there meeting with these super duper rich people and i'm like i wonder what the correlation is there bro back then when there was no cell phones and you know they had to bug people they have to they had to literally bug businesses to get information like they were all doing something oh yeah you couldn't be involved in any big time business if you weren't down with the teamsters if you weren't down with the longshoremen you had a you had a we gotta work this out bobby we're businessmen that's that's how you did the business give a little money to their campaign not a little but a bit and then you can get your stuff passed and make life easier down the road dude i had friends that had no show jobs wow yeah yeah i had a friend of mine that had a no-show job in new york at the javit center you know the javit center is like a big convention center he had a union no-show job wow so he's a mob guy yeah and they they just gave him money i only get a free check on the sopranos they had those no that's real no show construction jobs they're sitting there with their portable fans yeah no that's real dude that is a real thing yeah there's they get a certain amount of jobs like they would make agreements like the union would make an agreement we get a certain amount of these jobs there's like you know it's crazy there's really a hundred jobs but we want 130. uh youngstown was a haven for organized crime related corruption was ingrained into the fabric of its society a 2000 publication new republic listed a chief of police the outgoing prosecutor the sheriff the county engineer members of the local police force a city law director several defense attorneys politicians judges and a former assistant u.s attorney as controlled by the mob so if they have that if they found that for sure imagine how many others there are right that's everybody that's everybody the prosecutor the sheriff the county engineer the police force city law director defense attorney imagine not being down with the mob like do you want to stay alive like do you want to work in this business right and this is a city i think we looked it up the other day actually i think it only has 25 000 white people so knowing that black people tend to not be in the italian mob just going off of 25 000 and that's current i don't know what it was back in the day but the point is it's like it's not a big city it's not i think 50 60 000 half or less white so there's tony yeah there's a little tony watching pro wrestling oh yeah pro wrestling and even then i was obsessed with goodfellas and a bronx tale and a godfather because it's like it's just what you're taught is humanity like that's life yeah so getting out of that and going to la and thinking it was going to be all oh it's going to be crazy gangs and stuff and it's just quiet granted i started in burbank which is a fucking television studio essentially but when i moved to new jersey and i didn't have any money when i first moved to new york i couldn't afford to live in the city so i was like i'm gonna live in the city and i'm gonna live in the city in new york city or i didn't even have an apartment i stayed with my grandparents because my grandfather lived in new jersey in newark and um he bought a house there in i think it was like the 1940s and they did a thing called blockbusting do you know what blockbusting is they would go to door to door and they would say black people are moving to the neighborhood you got to sell now and everybody sold it used to be an entirely italian neighborhood uh and he was like i like black people get the fuck out of here and he kept his house but it was like one of very few families that stayed and then black people moved out and then they started getting like different people spanish-speaking people like dominicans and a bunch of other and that's how it was when i stayed with them so this is like nine uh 91 yeah i was three years in the comedy so it's probably 91 and uh while i was living with them the next door neighbor's house got broken into by the cops the dea smashed down his door the dude had an audi parked in the driveway he was telling crack like right next door to my grandpa the whole neighborhood was just nuts dude like he would get really nervous when i would leave like i would leave to go play pool somewhere and he'd be careful like it was fucking sketchy yeah but it didn't used to be like when he first moved there it was just an all-italian neighborhood yep real estate people even back like what a dirty thing to do scare people into moving that's probably the first project of us aid that's probably they probably got real estate people to destroy neighborhoods there's something to it i don't know the correlation of italian neighborhoods being taken over not taken over but whatever by black people like the mob run cities like 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in the early 20th century were very poor. They were all coming over here for labor or jobs and things along those lines. And when they started doing better, they started moving out and moving into the suburbs and moving into more gentrified areas. It's always, what are the new immigrants that are gonna come and take over this area that was formerly a low-income Italian neighborhood or a low-income Irish neighborhood? - It's the same thing. There's cycles, you know? It's like there's cycles in fighting, too. In the early 20th century, there was a lot of Jewish fighters, like Slappy, Maxie, Rosenblum. You never heard of him, right? No. Very good Jewish fighters because they were poor, and they were the new immigrants. And this was like before World War II. And then in – and even afterwards, there was some. But then you get Italians. You get a lot of Italians. You get Rocky Marciano, Rocky Graziano. There's a lot of like Jake LaMotta. There's a lot of these like Italian bad motherfuckers because they were poor. Yeah. And then what happened? Then you got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of – it's always like who's the new immigrants? Right. And who are the most hungry, come from the most poverty-ridden areas, like Roberto Duran came from a terrible part of Panama. Like not terrible, but I mean like very poor, very violent. Yeah. And he was one of the baddest motherfuckers of all time. Boom Boom Mancini was right down the street. Yep. Yeah. I mean – Youngstown's known for boxing. Yeah. Kelly Pavlik. Kelly Pavlik, who's been on the podcast. He's awesome. Yeah. He was a beast, dude. Oh, man. That fight with him and Jermaine Taylor. Holy shit. Sometimes I still rewatch the end of that. How did he survive? Give me a burst of energy. I mean, how did he make it through? That was a crazy – I mean, he got dropped. He looked like – it looks like the fight was over. And then when he's got him in the corner and he rocks him, and you go, no way. Yeah. He's coming back. This is crazy. Crazy. Did you watch the fights this weekend? Jaron Boots Ennis and I forget the dude who was fighting? No. I was at that concert. I missed it. Boots is very good. And for the most part, he beat his ass. But the third round, he got rocked. The third round was incredible. Because the kid he was fighting – who's the gentleman that he was fighting, Jamie? Xander Zayas. Zayas, yeah. Young kid. He got dropped in the second round, like, pretty bad. Boots is very good. He's, like, one of the best boxers alive. And then the third round, the kid came back and rocked Boots. And it was just a war. Just the third round was incredible. Boots wound up stopping him. I think he stopped him in, like, the seventh or the eighth round. He just dropped him one last time in the corner call. It was enough. Like, he was getting his ass kicked. But he was very, very valiant, you know. It was a really good fight. Like, Boots is better than him, like, clearly. He's, like, he's on another level. But this kid showed just tremendous heart. But it's, like, that third round was just – coming back from getting dropped in the second. Like, those kind of moments where a guy's getting fucked up, like the Gaethje-Teporia fight. Yep. Perfect example. Yeah. Right? That's when it's really a fight. A real fight. Yeah. Because Teporia was on him in that second round. Ooh. Ooh. Man. We were so close. They were in – Oh, you could hear it. Oh, you could really – you could feel it where I was, man. And, you know, obviously we're always close to the cage on those things. But when Teporia was landing those body shots, it was right against our side of the fence. And I'm literally like, oh, my – I mean, holy fucking shit, man. And I've seen a lot of people get ripped to the body before. But there is something about his close-range strength near that clinch, that close-up fucking range of Elia that is scary. He's so good, dude. He's so good. And he's so precise. He just tried to – like, Chael – I always repeat this because Chael Sonnen said it was perfect. If you try to win by knockout and fail, you won't win a decision. Yeah. And sometimes you just run out of gas because, like, you're not supposed to fight like that if you think that the fight's going to go five rounds. Like, Elia had him hurt, and he's like, I can take him out. But Justin's so durable, man. He's so durable. And that left hook to the body, the sound of it, man, is just whip. It's so perfect. He throws perfect punches. His punches are just – I mean, even Justin said it in the post-fight interview. Like, when he's fresh, his skills are unmatched. Like, that's a crazy thing to say to a guy who just beat up and made stop. He stopped him in the fourth round. Yeah. That's crazy to say. Like, his skills are unmatched. But they really are. Oh, at every point of that. At every point of that, anybody I think that knows anything about those two fighters is going until this is stopped. Like, anybody can win this. Like, even when his face was blown up and his eyes looked black and closed, until that air horn rings, I'm like, anything. One punch. And we've seen it. Even with Gaethje, you saw it with Holloway, right? Was it him? Who did he square up with in the middle? Yes. Holloway, yeah. Yes. Max hit him with that final punch. One chin, with one second left, it can all be over. Yeah, that was a little different in that. But Holloway caught him with a jump spinning back kick to the face in the very last seconds of the first round and broke the bone of his nose. Oof. We talked about it on the podcast. And I was like, that changed that fight. Because before that, Gaethje was pressing him and it looked very competitive. And it looked like maybe Gaethje had a slight advantage. But that's because Max is very clever. Very clever fighter. Like, he's always switching stances and moving and, you know, really hadn't showed that spinning. Back kick a lot. That hadn't been a feature in a lot of his fights. He did it a few times. But for him to land it that way, backing up, jump to the face, I mean, it was perfect. Yeah. It was perfect. And his nose was fucked. And if you're fighting with a broken, like a broken bone on your face, every time you're getting hit, you're getting just blasted. The pain is insane. And then, you know, he had, you know, he was a step behind Max. Max was teeing off on him. He landed some good shots, though. Even though. It was a good fight. I mean, Max was definitely ahead in the fifth round. But it was a good fight. And then, you know, during that wild exchange, he should have never done that. Yeah. He was already fading, whereas Max was still very fresh. Fucking crazy fight, man. That was a crazy fight. I think Topiria's nose was broken in round two, I think. It was pretty early on. Hard to say. Yeah. You know, but Justin did clip him with a bunch of those uppercuts. So, Justin does this thing where he, like, collar ties you and then throws an uppercut in tight, and he's really good at it. He's really good at, like, turning you a little and then throwing an uppercut in these exchanges. He collar ties and uppercuts. He caught him a few times, and you just get one of those on the fucking nose, on the old schnozzle. This thing's so brittle. Yeah. It's such a, if you feel your nose, just feel it. Have you ever seen Merab's nose? The x-ray of Merab's nose? No. You've never seen it? I sent it to you, right, Jamie? Jamie will find it. It's crazy. Look at what it looks like. Oh, my God. Look at that. Oh, fuck. Bro. Gee. That thing is destroyed. I mean, it's destroyed. He's getting zero air out of that. He's got the best cardio on planet Earth, and he's getting zero air out of his nose. Wow. But he won't get it fixed. Because if he gets it fixed, he can't fight for, like, a year. And he just wants to keep on trucking. Yeah. That dude. That dude's a freak. If I was his friend, I would say, dude, you got a lot of money. You're a world champion. Fix the nose. Let's fix it. Let's take a year off. Come back and fuck these motherfuckers up. Because if that guy's got a fixed nose, he's got 10% more cardio. Are you crazy? Yeah. That guy with 10% more cardio, that's an extra weapon. I would get it fixed. But the problem is, if he gets it fixed, and then, like, he fights a guy like Halloween, he gets jumped in, spinning back kicked to the nose in the first round, and it's shattered as again, then he's kind of fucked. Because if they have to fix it again, then they might have to start taking pieces of your rib out, and reconstructing your nose, and grafting bone, and doing weird shit. And then, sometimes that shit doesn't take, and sometimes it gets infected, and then you have a bone infection on your face. And what do they do then? Do they have to remove your nose? Is that what they have to do? Fuck. God. Scary shit, man. Very much so. These fucking dudes, man. That is a crazy job, to risk your life, risk your health. Risk your bones. You're making a living by trying to damage another person who's trying to damage you. Nuts. But it's also why it's the most exciting shit in the world to watch. Exactly. So exciting. Yeah. Even boxing, as, you know, tamed in comparison to MMA, because there's less weapons and less options, and you don't- A lot more padding. Yeah. You don't get the chokeouts, the crazy chokeouts. There was a crazy chokeout this weekend. His name is Ruzaboyev, and he fought, God, how do I say his last name? He fought this Russian cat and got him, Russian or Ukrainian, I forget, but he got him in a rear naked choke and put him to sleep. And it was one of those ones where the guy looks dead, he's like lying there. I mean, it was a fucking nasty choke, man. And yeah, like, and it's, look at him. Oh, yeah. I saw that. It was dark, dude. It's another meme out this week, along with the WMV girl pointing. That's his name. Bro, it was nuts. The memes on these things are nuts nowadays. The internet is undefeated. Oh, it's crazy. They're so good at memes. Oh, my God. There's so many people out there working jobs that they hate, that are smart and funny. Yep. We were talking about it the other day, but have you caught up with any of those WMBA, what's her name, the girl that's pointing at her? Sophie Cunningham. Yeah. Yeah, I've been paying, can you put that thing in the middle? Put the ashtray in the middle. I've been paying attention very little. But one of the things that I did watch is all the fouls. throw each other to the ground, and they poke each other in the eyes. Like, they do this. They literally jab each other in the eyes. It's crazy. Like, they foul, and also, they travel so much. Oh, it's crazy. They take, like, four or five steps, and then no one calls them on it. Oh, yeah. Double dribble. Is there a trend now to not call traveling? Yes, without a doubt. In the actual NBA, it's a thing, too. It's hard to get into this without going way into, like, the weeds, but the NBA has a technically different rule than college and, like, high school and everyone else where they call it a gather step, and they definitely would call it in high school. But they work all day manipulating it with a referee, watching them saying, like, you can do that, but you can't do that. You can do this, but you can't do that. And so, like, they've got it to a place where everything they're doing looks like traveling and double dribbles, but guys will break it down in slow-mo, and you'll be like, well, technically it's not. That's weird. I always thought if you took a step, you had to bounce the ball. Yeah. That's how it should be. You're allowed to. But doesn't it seem like that should be how it is? Totally. When you see guys taking four steps, you're like, what's going on? Do you want to see exciting basketball or not? Yeah, I do. All right, well, then just let the referees call the game how they call it. But I think there's something exciting about you having to bounce that ball because you won't be able to score as much, right? Correct. Like, if you have to bounce it every two steps, whatever it is. I wish. I loved the NBA like I did. I did when I was a kid, and fucking Barkley and Jordan and Ewing and all these people were physical. It is just a whole different game now. So back then, was it traveling? Like when the Larry Bird days? Hell yeah. Unless Jordan talked to the ref and said, yo, you're wrong. Let me do what I want. Well, Jordan had the cheat code where he would leap from the fucking free throw line. That is so – when I've watched videos of that, it doesn't even look real. He was such an amazing athlete. He was so good and so possessed by his desire to win. He would do things that you would just go, how does a person fly? Dude, imagine if he was like one of those jumpers, those long-distance jumpers. He'd probably have an insane jump because he's going from the free throw line in the air. That's crazy. Everything he did was crazy. The way he did things, the way he practiced, everything. Yeah. And did he not? Did he not make his college team? No. High school team? No. Wasn't there like one year? When he was a freshman, he didn't make the varsity team. Yeah. Most freshmen don't. Perfect. May have changed basketball history forever. Most freshmen don't. That doesn't make sense because they're not even developed yet. Yeah. If you're playing varsity. I know kids in Texas that keep their kids back a year. Wow. They want their kid to be bigger. I want Billy to be the biggest freshman. I want him to be a 15-year-old freshman. We're pushing for right before his 15th birthday. Like, hey, 15's a sophomore. Billy's a fucking cheater. Why are you sandbagging Billy? That doesn't bother me nearly as much in a sport like football where I see what you're doing. Like you're preparing a kid for a professional future perhaps, especially in Texas. They're very into it down here. But if it's a wrestling, it's like, hey. Yeah. Hey, there's fucking no money in this. Right. And that kid's 16 and he's in the ninth grade. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. How old is the oldest that a kid can be and compete in high school sports? Jamie? Please put that into our sponsor, Perplexity. Let's find out. I wonder if it varies by sport. Definitely by sport and by state. Interesting. Do they all have a cap at 18? Or do they allow you to compete at 19? Yeah, there's going to be a – but before I even hit enter, I know it's going to say something about, like, you're graduating class, can't be out maybe more than, like, two years or something like that because you got held back or you had an injury or something like that. Boy, I remember from my days of being, like, 17 and 18, the difference between 17 and 19 was huge. Oh, yeah. It's a big difference. Fuck, yeah. By the time you're 19, you're basically man strength. You know, 17, I was like a boy still. Yeah. You know? Like, I was flimsy. 17, I was like a flimsy kid. By the time I was 19, it's a different age. You're an animal. You've got two more years of training and testosterone in you. Yeah. If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a huge advantage. Every advantage – everything in wrestling is a huge advantage. Starting one year earlier is crazy. Huge, huge advantage, yeah. It's 19 based off of certain results. Oh, bro. That's so rude. Making 19-year-olds wrestle against, like, possibly 15-year-olds is crazy, right? So if you are, like, in a certain weight class that's not strong – like, I wasn't a good wrestler. I was a pro. I was a pretty good wrestler. But I started – I was on the varsity team at my high school. And, like, one year I didn't even cut weight. Or one weight class I didn't cut. There was a guy that was below me at, like, 126 or 128, and he was better than me. And so the next available weight class was 134, which is – that's what I normally weighed when I was 15. So I just wrestled at 134. That's lovely. Yeah. But I could have been in there with a 19-year-old fucking animal who weighs a bunch. He's like, fuck, 60, and dries himself out briefly to hit 134. And there was guys like that, man. You would see them at, like, the States. And you go, what the fuck? Yeah. And they were going to camps. So they were wrestling 365 days a year, all year long. Oh, yeah. I just started. I didn't know anything. Same. I started as a freshman in high school and got fucked up. I didn't even start as a freshman. I started as a sophomore. I started as a sophomore because some kid kicked my ass in the locker room. Some kid grabbed me in a headlock. And threw me to the ground. And didn't punch me. He could have punched me. Decided not to. But I was so humiliated. I was like, oh, my God. I need to learn how to wrestle. And then I also wrestled in the park, like, in the grass with my friend Steven. And I thought I'd be able to. I was a good athlete. I was doing karate. I was like, he can't take me down. He took me down instantly. I was like, oh, no. This is terrible. Yeah. It's a whole different beast. It's also, like, how tired you get. I remember thinking, I used to think that I had worked out before that. Because I had, you know, taken karate classes. And done some taekwondo. I thought I'd worked out. Yeah. You don't even know what working out is until you go through a wrestling practice. You're like, we're running stairs? What? What? Right. We're carrying guys around the wrestling room. You pick up your partner, your training partner. You have the firemen carry them around the fucking room. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Then you're doing push-ups and sit-ups until you puke. And then you're doing live drills. Fuck. Non-stop. Dude. Animals. Yeah, we would rotate. You know, there's all those different weight classes. And just for shits and giggles, you know, one of the drills was, you know, escape from the next guy. All right. Beep. Whistle blows. Escape. You're on bottom. You have to get out. The next guy. So sometimes, at a 103 weight class, I would have Hugh Frost, who was, I think, 235, 245, 250. You had to wrestle with him? Oh, yeah. Just for one drill. And it's a fucking joke. It's a pancake. And he would probably, he was probably showing mercy at the time, obviously. But not really. Because he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to let this little fucking shithead 103 out from under him. So he's, you know, putting enough pressure to keep everybody there. Not to mention the 165 freak of nature made of muscle and the 185. You know, it was just a drill. But reality hits hard. That's how you see the difference between 15 and 17 and all that. And someone who actually really knows how to wrestle. Just wrestler strength. Like, I always tell people, if you want to look at MMA, like, what is the most important? The most important skill, the foundation is wrestling. The foundation. If you wanted your kid to be a badass fighter, like, my kid really loves fighting. He thinks he wants to do it, but I want to prepare him right, which I do. Teach him how to wrestle. Get that kid into a really good wrestling program. Because if you have advanced wrestling, you look at how it shuts down so many fighters. Like, look at what Hamzat did to Drekus Duplicy. Hamzat, he just racked all of them. His wrestling is at such a high level. And Drekus, who was a world champion. World champion. Couldn't do shit to stop it. He just dragged him to the ground any time he wanted to. Got him in a crucifix, like, three times. Marab against O'Malley. Exactly. Exactly. We're watching a guy that does a no-look right-hand knockout punch into a salute. No look at his opponent. Right? Get. I mean, it's just impossible. It appears impossible in every Khabib fight. The thing I always think about first when I think about. When I think about Khabib fighting is him being on top and having his feet under the other dude's feet, which is just. That's it. It's the final level when you can't even begin the process of posturing out in any way. You are nothing. You are a tissue in an octagon with a man. And he's wailing on your face. Yeah. He's wailing on your face, and he has your legs triangled underneath his legs. It's always funny when UFC. Or when casual UFC fans. Don't understand those little things like that that aren't even part of the fight. They're looking up here waiting to see if the punches are going to rain down. Yeah, here it is. But the positioning of his feet is what I'm always looking at and how scary it can be here. He's not even doing it right now. He's hell on top of people. He is right here. But that leg being thrown is torture. It's all the weight. Nothing we can do. There's just nowhere to go. And all that weight on those hips, people don't realize. like I notice immediately If I ever see somebody that's kind of on top and their knees are on the ground, like if you look, his right knee isn't on the ground. It looks like it might be. And look how he keeps slamming those left hands into Johnson's head. I mean, he got hit with like 15, 20 unanswered full force left hand blows. He's holding his arms so he can't move. Bro, he's horrible. He was horrible. So good. Khabib was so good. And he would do this to world-class fighters, man. And by the way, Johnson clipped him in that fight too. It was one of the few times in his career where he got clipped. He clipped. Yeah, man. Who's the one that looked really frustrated? What's that? Who's the one that looked super frustrated in that? Barboza? I'm just asking. I don't remember who it was. Barboza was one of them. But, I mean, a lot of guys that fought Khabib looked frustrated because there's not a damn thing they could do. Nope. Barboza was like early in the first round. He had that 1,000-yard stare. It was like, fuck. Like, I have to go through three rounds of this? Where they just give up on the idea that they could even win. Yeah. Like, all you're doing is trying to survive. Yeah. He was a monster, dude. Like, that. His. His leg being trapped is nuts. And look how he's scooting with it. And he's just slamming punches. And then you get up. He's just chasing you. Oh, yeah. I got to get my back down, I thought. But if you get up, he's just going to fucking chase you and drag you to the ground again. So you blew all that energy to get up. The moment you try to punch or throw a kick, he's on you. You're on your back again. Punch to the face. Punch to the face. Yeah, wrestling's giant. It is the biggest skill. Yeah. You have to know how to do everything else, too, nowadays, because all these kids that, like, you see in the Contender Series, these young guys coming up, man, they're all so fucking talented. He tried to wheel kick them. And really, more than anything, I feel like being out-wrestled and being just trapped on the ground is so psychologically demoralizing when you've been training for a UFC fight and the crowd is out there and the lights are on you and you see the logos on the mat because you're facing it. Back that up a little bit. I'm going to show you something here, too. What's interesting here, before that, before the clinch, so after he throws the wheel kick, like, Barbosa's trying to win, right? This is the third round. He's trying to win, and he throws this wide. But look. No, go before that. When he throws the kick, here it is. So he throws the kick and misses. He's so tired now that when Khabib moves for him, he clinches. Look. He instigated the clinch. Instead of pushing away, instead of circling to his left, he clinched because he's so tired, dude. He's so tired. And this dude just, look at that face. Right there, that's all. He just drags him down to the ground. He just drags him down to the ground again. It's just hell. Two on one on that arm underneath him. Legs being thrown in. He doesn't know what to do with his legs. He actually just put his foot above Khabib because it's so confusing. All that weight on you. You don't know where to even begin to start getting up. Well, the first thing he's got to do is get that left leg free, and he's not going to. That was the part right before the crawling thing. He was a monster. He was a monster. And retired undefeated. Yeah. And there's something to being on that mat. Not being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking, and this is not how you picture this going. Not only that, this is with the current rules, where I think there should be no stand-ups. I think the only time there should be a stand-up is when there's a foul. Yeah, I completely agree with you. I hate it when they stand people up. Even if it's boring. I get it's boring, but the guy can't get up, and this guy's holding him down, so he's winning. He's winning. See, I know he's not doing enough. What does that mean? He's biding his time. You've got to let him. You've got to let the guy have strategy. Like when Muhammad Ali did rope-a-dope against George Foreman, imagine if the referee's like, you've got to punch back. If you don't punch back, no, he's got a strategy. Strategy is let George Foreman burn himself out, and then eventually tee off on him, and that's what he did. Yeah. It stinks that referees can let the crowd get in their head. Well, it's the organization wants action, too. The fans want action. A lot of people disagree with me, and I understand their point. I understand their point, especially if you're a casual. A kid's gay. Get him up. Make him fight. They don't want to fight. They want a hug. Boo. Right. So what? So what? This is the sport, and if that guy who's on top, who's biding his time and recovering, then decides, okay, now's the time. Let me start dropping some bombs because I've recovered. Good. Well, he held the position, and he recovered his energy, and now he's winning. Like, let him fucking fight. Let him fight. Get out of there. Get out of there. Yep. There shouldn't be stand-ups. And I get it. The referee gets that cheer from the crowd. You know, it feels rewarding. That said, sometimes when they stand fights up, I get excited. Yeah. I go, yeah. Oh, yeah. Here we go. That striker has a chance. But my position is still the same. I don't think they should stand them up. I'm worse than that. I think they should start each round where they lost the last round. Oh, I love that. Yeah. That's great. So every round, why do you get to stand up? Why do you get that advantage that a striker gets of standing up when you didn't earn it? Right. Get back there. Get back down there. Yeah. Get back down there. Crucifix. Why did you have to start the round off in a crucifix? Yeah. That's how the round ended. They look at the big screen, get a freeze frame of the position. Referee sets you in the exact position and says, ready, fight. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Fuck off. Yeah. That's what the sport is supposed to be. And sometimes it's going to be boring. Yeah. But that's real, though. At least it's real. Because there's been a lot of fights where the guy got taken down in the first round, starts out the second round, and blasts the guy and knocks him out. And it's like, okay, it's exciting to watch, but he didn't earn that position. He just got that position because the other guy survived the first round. And so it's like, it's one fight. It's not five fights. Right. So I think it should be one continuous fight with a one-minute break in each round. Yeah. That'd be like if the team losing automatically got the kickoff after halftime or something like that. Yeah. And look, guaranteed, if I was running the UFC, I'd probably go bankrupt. I'm not the right guy. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'd be a terrible promoter. I'd be too honest about stuff. And I'd want to give people fights that maybe they weren't the most exciting fighters, but they were above the other person in the rankings. I think the rankings should be the whole reason why you make fights. Sami Zayn won the Universal WWE Championship over this weekend at a big pay-per-view. I have no idea who that is, but I'm happy for him. Shocked Cody Rhodes. He was like a guaranteed win. I wonder what happened. Rolled him up real quick. Do you think maybe that was fixed? Well, it was very entertaining. Very entertaining. I'm sure it was. I just don't understand how you go back and forth. Oh, it's the best. I know you love it. Well, sometimes. That's what I said about this White House card, by the way, is like there's nothing that could have happened that they could have written if it was written that would have made it. Yeah. More exciting. Right. It felt real the whole time. And the fights that happened before made it feel like anything could happen in that main event. Like it just felt raw and real, but also storyline, which then when UFC is at its best like that, it's like the WWE. That's what's interesting. Of course, it's not as, you know, acrobatic. Exactly. But it is. It was a special moment. You know, it was. But regardless of how you feel politically, and I understand it, if you're if you hate the Republicans and you hate the whole idea, I get it. But just as a person who loves a sport, it was a very unusual experience. Very unusual. And just I think people have to just look at some things that way. You know, some people have a really hard time separating themselves politically because they're going, oh, no, that the White House puts on this thing. There's all this bad press because of the war. There's bad press because of this and that. And they put on this. This thing at the White House. And it's sort of like MAGA washes everything. I mean, yeah, makes everybody like them again. Gives them positive press, which undeniable, undeniable. It gave him positive press. I mean, the amount of people that have seen it is nuts. You know, I think just on Paramount, it's something like 30 something million now. And, you know, they were telling me that they thought it was probably 150 million people had watched it in some form, which was, you know, TikTok clips. Instagram, YouTube. That is a nutty number, man. And I think Dana and Hunter, they were thinking it could get to like a billion people see it, which is just nuts. Yeah. In some form, you know, highlight reels, clips. I mean, just the Gaethje fight alone, just the highlight reels. How many people watch those on Instagram and TikTok? Totally. The awareness of the event of the moment was so huge. It was like nothing else. Like it didn't feel like any other event we'd ever. Like I was nervous before it started. Like I never get nervous for the UFC. I get excited. But I was like legitimately nervous. I was like I was feeling like a little like this is crazy. Like we're on the White House lawn. Nuts. The flyover is when it really hit. Yeah. Well, when they had all those jets together and they were so close to each other. Yeah. Like imagine if one of those fucking clips into their wing and spirals right into the ellipse. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. What a spectacle. Yeah. They would have definitely canceled the fights because they canceled the White House. Correspondents dinner because of that assassination attempt. Damn it. Oh, you had a bunch of bangers on that. I heard. Yeah. So annoying. I was more excited for that than like anything. How do they just cancel it? Why didn't they reschedule it? Maybe they're going to wait until the ballroom is finished because that's the argument for the ballroom that they could have it at a place like that where it's completely secured. Yeah. Kurt Maske thinks the whole thing's fake. Oh, no. The fake assassination attempt. Yeah. How'd that guy get in there? Yeah. - Well, I think some people are just incompetent there's incompetence there's bad security there's uh people that don't do their job also there's also people that you didn't expect to be a problem and were a problem and you're in a hotel also the guy made it to the first level of the first scanning of security it's not like he made it into the thing but he did shoot somebody right i think he shot one of the secret service agents in his bulletproof vest yeah is that true jamie i think so see there were so many stories online it's so hard to know what was true and what was not but i think the guy was a teacher like a substitute teacher nuts it's all nuts it's like man you didn't think this out and scheduled it for july 24th okay okay the correspondence dinner yep wow i did not know that you might want to polish up some of them bits yeah it's gonna be some new stuff go back and tag some of them with some current events where they gonna have it oh sorry i started to if they have it at the same spot that's not smart new event held july 24th it's not saying where is that the pentagon they might wait they might wait to release that yeah it's not saying oh uh waldorf excuse me waldorf astoria oh okay well i guarantee you they'll tighten that up a little bit oh yeah this episode is brought to you by squarespace if you're thinking about building a website you should try squarespace i know because i use it that's right joe rogan.com is powered by squarespace it has all the features that you need to create a standout website like an ai enhanced website builder seo optimization tools and seamless checkouts with mobile pay links head to squarespace.com slash rogan for a free trial, and when you are ready to launch, use the offer code ROGAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. 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Even I wrote jokes for the president of the United States to make fun of the press and everybody at the White House Correspondents Dinner. But I just realized Adam's here. Adam, you want to come out and read these in Trump's voice? And so he was seeing the jokes for the first time and reading them. And we had so much fun. I didn't know he does a Trump, which doesn't surprise me. I mean, his impressions are insane. He can do anything. Yeah. He can do anything. He didn't even, he didn't, he was dabbling in a Biden the week that I hit him up to do Trump Biden, which I think is a fucking God. I think it's like 40 million or seven, some crazy amount. And again, just like the UFC, God only knows after clips, but it was a monumental comedy fucking moment. Having Shane is Trump right before the election. Adam is Biden right before the election, right after their first, a debate where Biden was clearly fucking zonked and sleepy and just couldn't compete at all. And so I hit up Adam via text. I'm like, do you have a Biden? He's like, I cover it for five seconds. And in my standup, I'm like, are you free on Monday to fly to Austin and do Biden if I can get Shane as Trump? And I remember him telling Shane, I was like, I'm like, this is going to be an interesting ask. But I, you know, I'm just like, Hey, Adam's got a Biden. And Shane's like, I have something to do on Monday. I'm canceling it. I'm doing Trump. He immediately saw the brilliance. It was just such a hot topic at the time. And my God, it was fucking crazy. There's clips that I see of that episode. And I never rewatch kill Tony's or anything. I'll see clips sometimes. And I literally go, Oh my God, holy fucking shit. There's one part where Trump goes, how many more retards are you going to bring out here? Cause there'd been, like two handicap people on this show. All right. How many more retards you have come as I'm pulling a name out of the bucket in real time? I go, anything can happen, Mr. President. Let's see what the next guy's like. And he comes out and he has like these weird deformed penguin arms. And you see Shane as Trump and the crowd's dying because they see him first. And you see Shane as Trump look and go, fuck. It's just one of his, his react, facial reactions to things are like, his greatest secret fucking hilarious weapon. And when he's Trump, it's even amplified. It's like, in my opinion, 10 or 20% funnier than even Shane is. I mean, I'm sure he'd admit to this and know it because Trump is just such an interesting polarizing character. And his take on him is so fucking funny. It's psychotic. His impression is so good. It's the greatest Trump impression of all time. Cause it's like the jokes are so good. Oh, by far. He's so good. What's funny, Jim? It's so epic. Back it up a little bit. Another fun appearance by True Nickens. This is the best. All right. Tony, how many more retarded guys do you have back here? Anything can happen. This crowd is hungry for more retarded guys. Frankly, I don't think we've seen enough retarded guys. How about a retarded racist? Would you like to see? This next person could be one. I pulled it out of the bucket. It is the Kill Tony debut, I do believe, of Jacob Barr. Everybody, Jacob Barr. Oh, my God. Thank you. Well, well, well. Oh, my God. Okay. Careful what you're waiting for. Okay, hold on. We're going to reset this, Jacob. What's funny is Adam knows better than anybody that you're not supposed to say anything after the bucket pool comes up. So me grabbing the mic out of his hand and putting it down is even another layer of hope. It's kind of hilarious to all of us. It's like Biden's misbehaving. I don't know. Did you see Shane's face when he notices his hands? This is it. Look. And then he's our Jackie Gleason. Oh, yeah, without a doubt. Plus, plus, man. He's the great one. He's our generation. What people don't realize, I mean, obviously, is that he is that great. Cracking jokes. It's fun. Well, I know he was very reluctant to do the roast. You know, he's a little reluctant to even host that. Like, I don't know if I want to do those things. Yeah. You know, but. Well, everything is, you know, everything could be something he crushed so hard. It caused a real ruckus. Him and I end capping that thing. Yeah. It was supposed to be a, you know, this roast of black excellence. And me and Shane are just fucking having the time of our lives. He got to do. Who said it was a roast of black excellence? You're just saying that because it was Kevin Hart? Well, yeah. That's, that's like, that was. It wasn't like explicitly stated or anything, right? I mean. Because imagine if you said we're going to have a roast of white excellence. Right. Exactly. No, I know. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. It's weird. You can and can't say. Oh, yeah. That's weird. Oh, yeah. You know. Yeah. That's a whole thing with that. I mean, you can't talk about this, but you can talk about that. Well, it's just weird what we accept. Which like doesn't bother me at all. But like Cain Velasquez, when he fought in the UFC, he used to have brown pride tattooed on his chest. Cool. And his family came over from Mexico. They literally walked here. Yeah. White pride. Not so popular. Right. White pride on your chest. You know, fucking Sean Strickland just decided to get white pride. And he posted a picture on Instagram of him as a world champion with white pride on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a world champion. With brown pride on his chest. Yeah. And people would lose their fucking minds. Yes. And again, not saying that Sean would ever put white pride on his chest. He would. No, he would. I follow him. He doesn't have any tattoos. I follow him on Twitter. He would. Trust me. He's a wild boy. Did you see when he showed up? He did a temporary tattoo. He showed up at the UFC even though he was banned? He showed up and they arrested him? Yeah. Yeah. They kicked him out. He's the world champion. They kicked him out. American world champion. And they're like, you can't come. Yeah. Because you talk too much shit about Israel. He's a wild boy. But that's wild that your criticism about Israel is what keeps you from going to the White House as a world champion in a world title fights at the White House. Yeah. You would think you would want to celebrate the American male world champion. I think he said some other stuff too, though. Yeah. There's some Epstein stuff there. Yeah. He's a wild boy. Yeah. I think he's. I told him when he retires from fighting, he 100% should do a podcast. And he was like, you know, seeing these guys doing these streamers and like, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do it that way. He's like, I couldn't do that. Just sit there every day and talk to people for hours. I'd lose my fucking mind. I'm like, right. But you don't have to do that. Just your opinions on things. He's an awesome podcast guest. You know, I'm like, he could totally totally do that just to talk about stuff. And also Sean, when he lets the whole shtick down and just gives you his opinions on things. Very smart guy. Yeah. He's not stupid at all. And he would get better at it, you know, as he did it more. He easily could do a podcast. Yeah, he's entertaining as fuck. I just can't believe they kicked him out of the White House. And that is, they kicked him out of the ellipse, that area. I think there's a video of it. See if you can find the video of it. Sorry, guys. They got like fucking six cops in bulletproof vests. Yeah, I think there was like 85,000 people there. So it's funny that they're like, that one. The champion. It's just, he wasn't supposed to be there. He's banned. He was not invited or whatever. But even if you're not invited, shouldn't you be able to go to the fan area? If you're the world champion? If you want to be that wild with no security, and there's video of him from the first night, from the night of the weigh-ins, where they found out that he was there. It's amazing. Because he was wearing a hoodie the entire time. And someone told him he's got to take off the hoodie. And he's like, I can't. Listen. It's going to be a problem. And as soon as he takes off the hoodie, everybody goes, that's fucking strong chicken. And then he's just surrounded by bros. Hilarious. Just getting hugged to death. He asked some dude, some dude asked him to leg kick him. So Sean leg kicked some kid. Crazy. World champion fucking kicking some kid. What is this world coming to? There's starting to be some. It's him. Is there audio? This is crazy. I like that we have some entertaining American people. He's the most entertaining. That Josh Hockett. Hockett? Hockett. Hockett. Yeah. My God. That was what was hilarious. Was people were so upset that he said Michelle Obama's a man at the White House. It's like that's what he's doing. He's doing it on purpose. He's literally wearing an American flag bandana. He comes out to a Hulk Hogan song. He's wearing sunglasses. Yeah, it's not appropriate. You're right. Yep. Right. But he said the exact same thing when I interviewed him somewhere else. Yeah. He said, I'm pretty sure he said Michelle Obama's a man like last time I interviewed him. That's what I heard. It's not his first rodeo at the Michelle Obama's a man. That's what he says. That's how he ends his interviews. Hilarious. He's trying to get people to talk about him. Yep. You know, it's the whole thing is so crazy. But all of it would be nothing if he couldn't fight. Exactly. That's where it's real exciting is the pre-fight stuff. I mean, the post-fight interview, pretty polarizing, obviously, because that was the news. But for the real fans paying attention, you didn't get to see him do that did I send it to you, the Kill Tony Minute that he did at the press conference? I heard about it. Oh my God. So funny, because he's like purposefully bombing. So he's literally doing a joke. He says, you guys know Tony Hinchcliffe? I'm going to do my Kill Tony Minute. And he's purposefully like bombing. It's corny, purposeful, bad jokes. And he's going, man, tough crowd. All right, let me try this one. And it's like literally being hilarious by strategically trying to be funny, but not being funny. You could tell that he was planning on nobody laughing, but that it's set up punch. And he's just fucking, he's just trying to entertain. He's trolling. He's trolling, he's getting attention, and then the most important thing, he can fight. Yeah. That dude's good. He's fucking good, man. He's fast as shit. For a heavyweight, he's very light on his feet, fast as shit, fast hands. Yeah. So fun to watch. And, you know, what's interesting is he talked a lot of shit, about Alex Pereira. And, you know, I want a shama on your mama, or all that crazy shit. Pereira losing to Cyril Gaunt. If Pereira decides to fight again, I don't know if he's gonna fight again. He might be done. I think he said he might be done. But I mean a lot of fighters say that after a fight, and especially after a loss. Yeah. Let him sit around for a while, and then they come up with He's not done. They back up the Brinks truck. Get him versus Josh Hoke. Get him. Oh my god. As a co-main event on a fucking banging New Year's Eve card. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Hoke, it'll be making fun of his headdress, and his face makeup. Woo! Oh, it'd be insane. It would be insane. But, you know, the thing is, Hoke has got to deal with that guy. That's a different guy. That's not Derek Lewis. I mean, if he continues to fight heavyweight, it is interesting watching a guy who's been so dominant at 85 and at 205 with all that extra weight on. I don't know if that necessarily was the right move. You know, I mean, I think some weight is probably good, but maybe even 20 pounds lighter. Like, maybe 230-something. Maybe that would be a better weight if he really wants to fight at heavyweight because it seems like he was carrying. I mean, just, you ever work out with a weight vest on? Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Like a 25-pound weight vest. It's nuts how much harder everything is. So you gotta realize he had fought at 185 and he fought at 205. That was what he weighed in at. But let's be honest at 185, I think he probably weighed 220-something. 226, I think it was, fight night, which is nuts. That's 40 pounds difference. And at 205, he probably got into the 230s, like 235, 236, something like that. But still was not, didn't look like he looked at 251. 251, he looked like he was carrying unnecessary weight. A little bit of it, at least. And if he was just like 20 pounds lighter, he would still have that speed and movement, but he's always had crazy knockout power. It might be a better weight for him. It just seemed like it was a lot of weight he had on him. And it all went to his ass. His ass was giant. Fat ass. Big fat ass. You know me. You know that's all I'm looking at. That's why I watch UFC. And yeah, it was all there. It was like a backpack. Well, that's where all the power comes from. You know, when you're pushing off your feet and you're pushing off those fucking quads and pushing into those glutes and then torquing that body the way he does. Ferocious power, dude. But damn, that Cyril Ghosn's good. Woo! Woo! He's so good, dude. And he's in his prime right now. Cyril Ghosn is like really coming into his own. There's no heavyweight like him. No one moves like him. Yeah, I was gonna say extremely accurate for a heavyweight. Not just accurate. Agile. Because we were talking about this the other day, that basketball is a great place to start if you're a big athlete and you want to learn combat sports, especially striking. Because think about how many direction changes basketball players take, where they're always kind of doing that. They're always spinning and moving. It's a series of plyometrics. It's a series of hops and jumps. Like Jordan's jump. Imagine if Jordan had a flying knee. Right. Right? Yeah. He's fucking. He's hitting you with a flying knee from 14 feet away. Yeah. What do you got? What's that? It's interesting because. Oh, Cyril Ghosn's. Yeah, so he started out playing basketball. At least where I come from, basketball season and wrestling season are at the same time. So I wonder what he was doing back then. Well, he's in France, right? So France does not have wrestling in their high school or in their college. You know, and he learned wrestling after he had become a really elite world-class Muay Thai fighter. So he's got. The grappling has come up in big ways. Like his grappling's much better than it used to be. But really primarily he's a striker. And when John fought him, like John just got him to the ground and submitted him, like, quickly. It's like the different. I think that fight was kind of a big-ass wake-up call. And Francis beat him, too. So Francis beat him by just. Francis just got a hold of him and most of the fight was on the ground. A giant chunk of it. Because Francis fought that fight with a blown-out ACL. Wow. Defended his world title with a blown-out ACL. Crazy. Had big-ass knee pads on. Oof. I know. Wobbly-ass knee. But that's how dangerous Francis is. Yeah. He could just win it with grappling. It's a shame that he's not in the UFC. It's a real shame. Yeah. Because, like, that whole thing was what drove everyone crazy about boxing. You know? That it was really hard to get these guys together. You know? And this was the whole idea, why everybody was excited about what Riyadh's season was doing. And Turkey Al-Sheikh. And, you know, all those people that put together these big-ass fights. Like Tyson Fury and Alexander Uso. And the last one they just did, Rico Verhulst, in Usyk like they're putting together these big crazy fights like that was the thing that drove everybody nuts about boxing and that's what drives everybody nuts about MMA the one thing is it's the heavyweight division the fact that the best heavyweight or at least the guy who was the lineal heavyweight champion in the world isn't even fighting for the UFC that's crazy crazy yeah who knows maybe one day right nope no I don't think so I tried to make it happen damn I think we need to get those dudes together look at that look at Cyril gone dunking that's crazy I know see that kind of ability to throw your body around like that is so huge as a striker because a lot of those guys are plotting you know they're plotters they just kind of like wobble through I think what they need to do is get Francis and the UFC together they all do mushrooms yeah just like make friends yeah because he doesn't have much time left I think Francis is 38 is that how old he is I think he's 38 which is different as a heavyweight heavyweights he turns 40 in September whoa not much time left right 40 you can do but unless you're Bernard Hopkins fighting at a world-class level in your 40s kind of unheard of I remember when France when Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik a lot of people did not think that he had a chance oh yeah I remember it very clearly and he outboxed the fuck out of Kelly Pavlik he looks so good truly the executioner I want to say he was in his 40s when that happened I think so how old was Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly Pavlik he fought at a world-class level until he's 50 years old yeah nuts yeah no we were all watching that one everybody from Youngstown going all right this is it we're gonna get back on the right path because it was after his loss to uh Margarito is that right it's the guy that got caught with the cement in his gloves against the one guy Antonio Margarito I do yeah 43 wow he was 43 years old wow crazy 26 year old crazy especially at 170 pounds like nobody thinks at that weight that you you can be competitive at a world-class level into your 40s most of the time like people just write you off on that number yeah they don't care what you look like like he's not gonna be able to do it was he the first one to beat Kelly is that what I just saw wow okay so he lost to him and that's where shit started to get fucked up because then he went on a bad run after that well when you got beat up like that yeah it's just tough on the brain dude there's only so many of them fights that you could take where you get really beat up like that but not put it on them you know there's been a bunch of fights where a fighter got beat up really badly and then they were never the same again Meldrick Taylor versus Julio Cesar Chavez that's a great example Chavez just put it on him and dropped him in the final moments of the round and then Richard Steele stopped it and it was like this crazy fucking controversy because he stopped the fight with like one second to go in a fight that Meldrick was ahead on the scorecards but the the real the real story of that fight was that the damage that Chavez had put on Meldrick Meldrick was never the same again and Pavlik actually won his next two fights and then had a bad staph infection problem oh wow so after he beat Sergio so he was set to fight Paul Williams but to major staph infection and allergic reaction some antibiotics nearly killed him whoa he eventually was able to fight again against light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez oh Sergio Martinez beat him Martinez beat he beat him he Martinez beat him um but yeah uh unanimous 12 round decision Sergio Martinez was a bad motherfucker yes he was yeah in the late rounds Martinez came up yeah it's it's a just a crazy sport man you only have so many wars in you there's only so many times you could do that and the really clever guys are the guys who just don't get hit much I went down a Midana rabbit 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if you can find the tooth that my donna had a floor look at that oh my god that is so cool how hilarious is that that's so funny he had his tooth put on a fucking he wears floyd's tooth on a necklace wow that's crazy boy what a square jawed motherfucker that is huh yeah look at that jaw that guy looks like he could hit him with a baseball bat he was a tough dude insane career i think he fought everybody the broner fight too he dropped broner that was when broner was in his prime you know he was a beast it's a it's a hard ass fucking sport any combat sport that is a hard way to make a living profitable do you see all the stuff that's going on with floyd yeah i i can't wrap my head around it i don't understand how someone makes that much money and doesn't pay taxes or whatever yeah well i could tell you how you run out of money yeah you know you you spend so much money on things you don't do you think he has a business manager maybe he wasn't looking out for his best interest i mean just you gotta put somebody in charge of that amount of money you would think you would think 750 million dollars would last you a while yeah he's i mean he's not even 50 you give one guy five percent how old is floyd now i mean yeah put some away but the thing is it's like that lifestyle his lifestyle was all about showing you his wealth his lifestyle he's 49 imagine making 750 million dollars and you're 49 you're broke oh god that's crazy but tyson talks openly about how he spent hundreds of millions of dollars just went through it you know that life where you're just wearing diamonds everywhere and you're buying crazy watches and you know floyd does these things you're seeing when he'll go into a hotel room when he's traveling and he talks about like the watches that he brought and so he opens up suitcases with millions of dollars in watches he just opens suitcase you ever seen these yeah find them because they're kind of hilarious because he's just trying to figure out which one he wants to wear he brings them all with them yeah she's showing off and he's showing off that he's got two suitcases filled with diamond encrusted patek patek philippe's and you know the the most high end of watches look at this see if you do you have the clip here it is let's put some volume on this look at this i'm always in my business worried about what i'm doing what floyd is doing what floyd ain't doing what i do got what i don't got just know i'm gonna stay in my lane i ain't gonna with nobody and i don't want nobody with me if i go on vacation my fault when i go on vacation for 30 days i take 30 watches with me look at this but you know what you know what what's crazy is this if we add 10 more days i take 10 more watches but then i say it if i want to bring out the one and only then i bring out the watch that costs 18 million oh Jesus matter of fact you know what i'm gonna do for you haters today go fuck on $50,000 'cause I ain't got shit else to do. money made all motherfucking day you know that's the problem so that you can only do for so long yeah so if you have one 18 million dollar watch like okay let's not get crazy let's not get crazy you wanted to get it you got it you have 750 million dollars you have one 18 million dollar watch you can't have 18 watches that cost millions of dollars like because you're going to need more you're going to keep wanting to buy more you're going to keep you're going to run out of money how many rolls royces do you have okay each one of those is a half a million dollars you have four or five of them how many ferraris you got 10 ferraris okay what some of those ferraris are almost a million dollars you have 10 almost a million dollar cars okay so just in watches and cars alone we're looking at 50 60 million okay and then you have to make 120 plus to actually have 60 i don't know if he's leasing them i don't know how he's financing things i don't know but i'd love to know the reality make that money back by he can make the money that he needs back by literally making a super documentary about how he spent it you ever seen that 30 for 30 broke about how the nfl players all spent their money no well it's unbelievable one of the easiest watches ever and like it it's i it's got to be 30 for 30 is like biggest production ever like it's everywhere it's it's just huge and um yeah who the hell doesn't want to know about that right and i'm waiting on that nicholas cage doc that i probably nobody's making either where it's like because he's a different version of that you know about this he went broke oh yeah but even then he made it back again well yeah he works his ass off so he went on a he's on a terror he's just making movies left and right and uh yeah going from 100 he faced severe financial struggles in the late 2000s going from 150 million fortune to being 6 million in debt whoa he never officially filed for bankruptcy but he cleared his debts by relentlessly taking on movie roles including direct to video films and selling off extensive real estate and assets i guess he bought like a lot of t-rex skulls like he spent his money on like crazy things he didn't just go watches and cars he would find crazy pieces of art and like old historical things i think well he was a movie star from way back you got to realize like what was his first film i think his first film was like 1980 or something yeah i remember him being a movie star when i was in high school yeah that's a lot of time of being in that bizarro hollywood bubble getting your brain cooked by fame yeah he's one of those you can watch him do any things like one of those freaks where even though people will say i don't like this nicholas cage thing i don't like that from an article about what he spent his money on 455 000 for two snakes okay so it was 276 000 in 2005 the equivalent of 455 000 today thanks inflation how crazy is that what's the four think about that 275 000 in 2005 is 455 000 today damn how fun is inflation wow what was uh nicholas cage's first movie uh officially yeah he's done a few things like unofficially just that crazy movie with him and raising a persona to be like the first big hit right that was a big one that was a big one his new ones are good too these wacky ones filmography if you go all the way back 1982 fast times at ridgemond high is nicholas coppola valley girls would have been the best movie that i've ever seen in my life it was one of the best movies i've ever seen in my life 1982 fast times at ridgemont high is nicholas coppola valley girls would have been the best movie that i've ever seen in my life 1982 fast times at ridgemont high is nicholas coppola valley girls what i was thinking of that was in 83. yeah credit is nicholas coppola that's before he changed his name because he didn't want to be connected to what is his uncle francis ford coppola is that what it is valley girl so valley girl was 83 so i was in high school dude in arizona peggy sue got married those are big too big those were huge movies dude raising arizona is so funny i saw that like a year ago i forgot i forgot how funny it was remember ty co or a i forgot how funny it was remember ty co or a i forgot how funny it was remember ty co or a tex cob was in there the boxer with the tex cob was in there the boxer with the tex cob was in there the boxer with the flat nose who fought larry holmes flat nose who fought larry holmes flat nose who fought larry holmes he did a bunch of movies the big white guy he did a bunch of movies the big white guy he did a bunch of movies the big white guy yeah big big corn fed white guy on yeah big big corn fed white guy on yeah big big corn fed white guy on the motorcycle yeah the motorcycle yeah the motorcycle yeah oh yeah he's great it's a cohen brothers oh yeah he's great it's a cohen brothers oh yeah he's great it's a cohen brothers movie right raising arizona is movie right raising arizona is movie right raising arizona is those guys might be the goats they might those guys might be the goats they might those guys might be the goats they might be the goats of comedy them and the be the goats of comedy them and the be the goats of comedy them and the farrelly brothers yep no doubt how many farrelly brothers yep no doubt how many farrelly brothers yep no doubt how many amazing hilarious movies and the cohen amazing hilarious movies and the cohen amazing hilarious movies and the cohen brothers was they were always so out brothers was they were always so out brothers was they were always so out there everything's so out there there everything's so out there there everything's so out there some of their films are just like what some of their films are just like what some of their films are just like what the are you guys doing this yeah the are you guys doing this yeah the are you guys doing this yeah like king was kingpin farrelly brothers like king was kingpin farrelly brothers like king was kingpin farrelly brothers yes those guys too without a doubt that yes those guys too without a doubt that yes those guys too without a doubt that was good unbelievable was good unbelievable was good unbelievable that's a funny movie so great that's a funny movie so great that's a funny movie so great so funny so funny so funny the scene where he's throwing up in the the scene where he's throwing up in the the scene where he's throwing up in the toilet when she's talking about him toilet when she's talking about him toilet when she's talking about him eating her eating her eating her to pay his rent oh my god to pay his rent oh my god to pay his rent oh my god woody's range is incredible you know woody's range is incredible you know woody's range is incredible you know what i heard about that movie that they what i heard about that movie that they what i heard about that movie that they had primed all the actors to get really had primed all the actors to get really had primed all the actors to get really excited when bill murray throws three excited when bill murray throws three excited when bill murray throws three strikes because he had to throw three strikes because he had to throw three strikes because he had to throw three strikes in a row and so they said this strikes in a row and so they said this strikes in a row and so they said this might take a while so we're going to might take a while so we're going to might take a while so we're going to really need your enthusiasm and then really need your enthusiasm and then really need your enthusiasm and then bill murray actually threw three bill murray actually threw three bill murray actually threw three strikes in a row first attempt and strikes in a row first attempt and strikes in a row first attempt and everybody went crazy like for real everybody went crazy like for real everybody went crazy like for real because they were you know like they because they were you know like they because they were you know like they were said this is not gonna happen this were said this is not gonna happen this were said this is not gonna happen this way so when he actually did it way so when he actually did it way so when he actually did it everybody went bananas everybody went bananas everybody went bananas nuts such a good movie i love it dude nuts such a good movie i love it dude nuts such a good movie i love it dude woody's a freak bro since he's moved woody's a freak bro since he's moved woody's a freak bro since he's moved here and goes to kill tony and like we here and goes to kill tony and like we here and goes to kill tony and like we hang out and stuff hang out and stuff hang out and stuff only only only after after after like like like being making friends with him being making friends with him being making friends with him like i knew he did a lot of great stuff like i knew he did a lot of great stuff like i knew he did a lot of great stuff but he sneaks up in but he sneaks up in but he sneaks up in so many great things it's insane he's so many great things it's insane he's so many great things he's in um in um in um what is the coen brothers one with uh not what is the coen brothers one with uh not what is the coen brothers one with uh not there will be blood it was made at the there will be blood it was made at the there will be blood it was made at the same time with javier bardem oh my god same time with javier bardem oh my god same time with javier bardem oh my god how am i blanking on this it's uh how am i blanking on this it's uh how am i blanking on this it's uh no country for old men no country for old men no country for old men oh that's right he's in it and he's not oh that's right he's in it and he's not oh that's right he's in it and he's not even they don't even like promote him on even they don't even like promote him on that or anything he just comes in the that or anything he just comes in the that or anything he just comes in the movie halfway through with all these movie halfway through with all these movie halfway through with all these other greats and is crushing other greats and is crushing other greats and is crushing it's hard to think that that's the coen it's hard to think that that's the coen it's hard to think that that's the coen brothers probably the people versus brothers probably the people versus brothers probably the people versus larry flint he's a freak of nature larry flint he's a freak of nature larry flint he's a freak of nature well that thing that you sent me the well that thing that you sent me the well that thing that you sent me the other day with him when he was playing other day with him when he was playing other day with him when he was playing lbj oh my god it's so good i randomly lbj oh my god it's so good i randomly lbj oh my god it's so good i randomly stumbled across that one i'm like i'll stumbled across that one i'm like i'll stumbled across that one i'm like i'll fall asleep to this woody is lbj and fall asleep to this woody is lbj and fall asleep to this woody is lbj and it's one of those movies that kept me it's one of those movies that kept me it's one of those movies that kept me awake awake awake because it was so goddamn good because it was so goddamn good because it was so goddamn good mesmerizing super nice guy too like mesmerizing super nice guy too like mesmerizing super nice guy too like easy to hang out with oh my god the best very chill with everybody just hangs out when he's in the green room it's just like one of us yeah normal yeah you know it's just hard to do and you've been famous that long just be cool yeah but also he doesn't have a phone you get a hold of him you got to get go through his wife to get a hold of him he's smart just insulates him from himself from all the nonsense brilliant it's the way to do it yeah but i think when you get to like that level you kind of have to or go crazy yeah you know yeah he has this fun he likes laughing sipping his tequila smoking his weed he's got it all figured out grows his own weed makes his own tequila eats live food or whatever and just laughs and enjoys life it's perfect yeah it's nice to know that people can make it through that crazy maze and you know you could either go nuts and buy tyrannosaurus rex skulls or you could just completely disconnect from it all and just be yourself just just keep keep killing it i know him and mcconaughey have a tv show that's coming out where they play brothers right yeah i think it's on apple tv coming out soon yeah yeah so um what's it been like like the the weirdness the post roast weirdness i'm always surprised by these things i'm always surprised that they last so long that anybody's talking about it it's so bizarre i was surprised with the pang dang thing i was surprised at the trump thing and this one is really surprising because with other ones they're like ah there's a time and a place for jokes like that or this or that or whatever and this is the time and the place for it is like the roast of kevin hart you know i'm like go for it yeah and we roasted kevin you know i did a fucking george floyd joke in the uh at the tom brady roast and i did a who's the white guy that shot people um uh it's the same fan base as uh god damn it the kid that shot people up in wherever be a little more specific white times the white guy shot a couple people had a gun at a thing they made it look like it was black people but it was actually white people that he shot that were shooting at him or had guns what's his name has the i have no idea who you're talking about david luke is his friends with him brought him to the club oh kyle rittenhouse that's it that's it oh i did a kyle rittenhouse joke i did this and then this one people are offended or something i don't know and yeah if you just watch that clip on my dismount it's a crazy clip but if you watch the entire flow of the roast set it's just one last departing joke which that's my thing man it's like i knew earthquake would be standing up on his feet like he was halfway through my set you know how you know there's standing o's that are happening during my actual roast and on this one because there were so many people on it it was such a long big roast you know they set you to an allotted time so i'm like okay i'm gonna do something i don't normally do and blast off more jokes per minute than i normally do instead of milking it and getting applause breaks and things like that i'm just gonna create a bang bang bang bang bang final stand of things you know what's funny is that i have something that's supposed to offend everybody like i don't want you to like 100 percent of any of my jokes i'm not that guy i'm heelish i'm a bad guy wrestling heel exactly so what's funny is people got offended about the george floyd thing and people a lot of people said yeah well p davidson did a charlie kirk joke and they're comparing these things from two different spectrums but what what they didn't mention is that i did a charlie kirk joke in my set so fuck them fuck them fuck them fuck them you know what everybody gets them everybody gets it is always everybody gets some jokes everybody does i said that kevin has uh what quite the fan base he has more gunfire at his merch table than charlie kirk yeah or whatever and um so you know for them to for people to nitpick that joke and be offended and it's funny because it was a lot of uh a lot of comedians a lot of black comedians were like i'm upset about this you know they made their videos which is just hilarious because they're not on the roast they're not in attendance at the roast you saw tiffany hash that was the best one nobody handled it better than her fine tiffany haddish getting uh asked questions it was a tmz thing yeah about uh the roast because she handled it so perfectly they're trying to they were trying to beat everybody of course they were everybody even cheryl underwood who handled it all like a champ we made friends before at a netflix brunch that week that was uh for that festival well dude i told you about cheryl yeah she's the shit she's awesome yeah i i've worked with cheryl in like the early 2000s i think it was in montreal i told you she's a monster yeah she'd go and stitch her purse on just clutching her purse on stage and murdered oh yeah she'd here's listen to tiffany you look so good you have like 30 seconds to chat really quick yeah so talking about kevin hart roast right yes it was so much fun so lani love they didn't think so lani love was like you know what it's exhausting it's edgy specifically about the george floyd joke what are you thinking is it just comedy should they have been a little less uh i think it should have been shorter the show was too long okay i mean i was sitting there the whole time i had to pee something i didn't hear the george floyd joke because i had to pee so bad so yeah i was a glorified uh seat filler and i was tired well also i mean lani and other people were like oh maybe it was a little too racially motivated what do you think as far as like the jokes is this just comedy or are people taking it too seriously is this all comedian saying it that wasn't invited that's the fucking comedian tiffany haddish bro that was her version of the sean o'malley walk-off i love it i love it man you never forget those people that actually are answering honestly in real well real comics and again it's the same thing for 100 she's not only is it a fun walk-off home run but she's also 100 correct there's nobody that was there that was offended there was no ruckus there it's just like everything else where you leave and you go huh this thing's this thing's kind of crazily taking off it seems a lot of people are talking about that one joke at the end it's so weird we live in an outrage culture and an outrage there's a there's money in outrage there's engagement in outrage outrage is the it's the commodity that everybody wants yeah they want to be outraged yeah and they want to be right and if you're outraged and you've got a good point you just ride that fucking thing for as much juice as you can get out of it and then you move on to the next thing yep what are you mad at now it you know there's never in any of these things there's never a moment where i'm like okay this could cause a problem it was it's never been that way while it was high fives yeah high fives and laughter after my 3 p.m set in a half-filled madison square garden waiting for the 8 p.m arrival of trump to speak i'm you know on a 34 person lineup everyone was thrilled way to get the crowd going i mean just getting the party started the lights were up like it obviously wasn't the best position for me on that lineup but the same exact thing and then it's like a little bit later you realize like oh they're making a news story about the puerto rico joke of all things so interesting i told you that joke was gonna be a problem i would have never told you to do that joke during that but i told you that was going to be a problem in your act wasn't supposed to be in my original thing for that it was the last second filler because they gave me more time than everybody it was a very bizarre thing they gave me more time for every bizarre thing first of all the idea that you would go on after someone like who went on before you stephen miller no not even it was the national anthem with a guy painting a uh painting actually no he went on after me i went on right after the national anthem but someone had some kind of like rah-rah speech make america great again i wish i wish there was that all came like way after me which is crazy they just had me on the wrong position on the thing and uh you should only do stand-up oh where people are doing stand-up totally totally it doesn't work totally it's like but you gotta say but then again it did it did work in-house the place isn't mic'd for i'm sure stand-up comedy or lit for stand-up or anything like it no they were laughing they were having a good old time well they're probably happy that something wasn't stiff and boring right like taxes and fucking right tariffs i mean rudy giuliani went on like three hours after me that's crazy yeah it was a nuts all day it was a super long thing my point being is that it always surprises me that i'm the news even though i'm because if someone else said it if it was a politician that did it or someone else someone high up in the administration that would make sense same thing with the roast if it was a clean comedian right if nate bargazzi or jim gaffigan were on it and they said that that's crazy me saying it that's normal they don't know that though see the thing is it's like you've achieved a level of fame that like really snuck up on people over the last couple years you know it's because the rise of kill tony has been completely organic like there's been no promotion of kill tony that made it become what it is it's all just people sharing it on youtube sharing it online that's all it is clips and these moments you know and then you know obviously the shane moments and all the kyle dunnigan it's been just so many amazing moments this is a good show it came organically and then you got to this point over the last couple years like oh we got to pay attention this fucking guy and then we had us and then after they started attacking you from the white house thing or the madison square garden thing rather which is 2024 then it was on then it's on like donkey kong right so that's two years later so now you're a guy that they go to like to get mad at and there's a bunch of people like that online that that's their business their business is people are mad at them they have hot takes people are mad at them yeah i mean that's so you're you've fallen into that category and so there's going to be people that genuinely don't like what you did and don't like you and then there's going to be people that are just using it as a commodity they're just using it as outrage which is part of what the game is you know this this is what they do and their engagement you know fucking game that they play and it's kind of what we do in the joke game yeah you know you get engagement you get people to laugh they you say outrageous things that you don't even really mean but it's because it's a funny thing to say it's just like always say bob marley didn't really shoot the sheriff you know that right right it's like just jokes like when you say inappropriate shit on purpose and that is like everybody used to know that like louis ck was a very left-wing progressive guy when he was saying really fucked up things that he didn't mean on purpose because they were funny yeah like that was what he did and everybody was fine with it until somewhere around it seems like it was like 2016 2000 like it started to turn a corner where it became like people are starting to take these things as statements rather than as comedy material and they started trying to pretend that the person really means this like that's where it got crazy and that happened around the time where social media really came into prominence because before that there was no real avenue to do that there's no real avenue to pretend you were really deeply upset yeah i mean i'm sure there's were upset but there's also a lot of like people that are just ill they're online all the time on these social media apps just arguing and spitting out venom and yelling at people and they yell at them it's like they're in hell all day long And any time something comes along they could be upset at, they have to have their take. They have to have that hot take. Yeah. And if their hot take gets engagement, they're all looking at their likes and they just start reengaging with that subject and going back on it. And this is the real problem. Okay. Good luck with that. That's bad for your head, kid. Right. Exactly. Very bad for your head. All those people that I know that are like, especially comics that are doing it, the comics that are doing it, almost all of them don't have good careers. No, all of them. Right. None of them have impressive careers, especially compared to their contemporaries that are doing well. And then on top of it, they're all mentally ill. They're all people that are fucking filled up with pharmaceuticals and they're going to therapy. They're literally mentally ill and they're online talking about fascists. Right. You know, like, stop. Yeah. Get your shit together. No one, your opinion is not that valuable to people because they know that you're fucked up. Do you not understand that? Right. Like, the way you view the world. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a healthy, balanced perspective. Like, you're viewing the world in this, like, mentally ill lens. Well, the whole online thing doesn't, it doesn't even convert to sold tickets or a bigger thing. It's such a temporary drug for them to get, to fill this void of what they're not doing. Right. It doesn't convert to them people wanting to go see them. No. I mean, some people, maybe they get like a little juice out of it, but it's not enough because you're also opening the door. If you do become popular, you have to understand that if you've been spitting hate at people for a decade and then you become popular, boy, that hate's coming your way. Oh, yeah. It's coming your way, you know. And I mean, this is one of the things that I said after the Mencia stuff. I said, even though I think it was the right thing to do, I wouldn't do it again because it's just too much. Yeah. It's just too much. You just, you create all, you just feel the darkness of it all. The negative, it's all negative. It's all negative. Even though it had to be done because you've got this guy that with it. It showed me how completely absent of morals and ethics the business is. Completely absent. Right. They knew what he was doing and they did not care. They didn't care because they were profiting from it. This is the conversation that I had with my agent when they were dumping me. I told him, I go, you're making a mistake right now that's going to affect the rest of your life. You have to understand the choice that you're making. You're choosing to align with someone who had any other industry. That person would be in jail. Right. If that person was, and also if this was in literature or if this was in music, they would be sued into high heaven. Like there's songs that like, they don't even seem like they're that close to each other. And people had to give like songwriting credits to it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like songs, like people get inspired by certain songs and then they write a song that sounds close enough that there's a rhythm to it. That people get upset. Well, there's only so many notes and so many chords and there's only so many beats and so much timing. And it's often the same thing with comedy. Like there's some crossovers in a writer's room, which I've been in so many of. So many people writing on the same subject will have the same joke. It's only when it's like what Mencia was doing, word for word, long form. Well, that was a different thing. He was a buccaneer. That was a total. Totally different thing. But there's songs like, okay, so I was listening to this video the other day or watching this video the other day, rather, that was comparing Radiohead's Creep to an older song. And they had to give Creep, Radiohead rather, had to give this older song writing credits for this, which sounds so different. And then Radiohead accused Lana Del Rey or someone from their organization accused Lana Del Rey of having a song. And that ripped off Creep or it sounded too much like Creep. And it did sound a little like Creep, but it was very different. Like it should be. Obviously, this is like inspired by it, right? If that's like Elvis Presley's entire career was inspired by black musicians, like the way he danced and moved and the way he sang. So it's like, what are we doing? Like there's stealing and then there's inspired by. Inspired by is what we were all doing. It's like we were talking about that computer earlier, that chip manufacturer. That thing was built on the back of all the fucking super wizard geniuses that have been working on all the different technology that led to that being. You can't just invent that in a vacuum. You have to invent that on all these other inventions that have taken place for decades before you. This is like with music. It's interesting how litigious they are. Maybe it's because they're run by a certain group of people. Don't me. But they're so good at like suing people. Like Bittersweet Symphony, you remember that song? Oh, yeah, totally. They had to give all their money to the Stones. Yep. Because it was, what song? Let's ask perplexity. While Tony is, or while Jamie, rather is. Oh, I can't do that. That's right. No, you can't. Oh, we have to do it. They'll get us. Do it. I know. It's a 1965 song called The Last Time. If, if, I mean, we learned this the hard way because I have an actual band that can play. They could play anything and everything, and years ago they could play anything and everything. Our old episodes hold, because, you know, I'd literally be, to a, you know, a shy person, I'd be like, what do you, you know, you ever do karaoke? They're like, yes. I'd go, what song do you sing? And then they go, da, da, da, da. And I literally, they would go right into it. And now you can't hum a song for a few seconds. So Bittersweet Symphony was a sample from, the Verve developed Bittersweet Symphony from a sample. From a 1965 version of Rolling Stone's song, The Last Time, adding vocals, strings, guitar, and percussion. After a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones' former manager, Alan Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling Stones' members, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, who were also added to the songwriting credits. Wow. 2019, 10 years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the rights to the Verve songwriter, Richard Ashcroft, because he was probably broke. There's similar things that have happened recently with, I think, Olivia Rodrigo and Paramore, and then Puff Daddy, and- Yeah. Can you please look up the other one that I set up, though? Which was Radiohead, Creep, Lana Del Rey. And Radiohead, Creep had to give songwriting credits to another band. The Hollies. The Hollies. That's right. What was the original song? The Air That I Breathe. It's interesting. When you listen to. If you listen to them, see if you could find that there's a comparison video that I watched on YouTube. See if you could find that. Because it's interesting how they say the first one, and you're like, "Geez, I don't see it." We'll have to edit this out, ladies and gentlemen, but you could find it yourself. Radiohead's Creep versus Lana Del Rey's Get Free versus the Hollies' The Air That I Breathe. Yeah, that was a live version of it, but if you hear the recorded version of it, it's even more. You could see. Yeah. You could see people get inspired by things. I get it though. I get it in those cases, especially at the beginning of the Hollies song, and then the beginning of Radiohead, like, "Ugh, I'm sort of dead on." Yeah. They're set in a mood, like a very specific mood. Have you ever seen how the guy from. Here's a crazy one. The guy from the Gorillaz, the song Clint Eastwood, I think it is, he had one of those like little kids kind of keyboards. Yeah. Yeah. demo button because like oftentimes it'll just have a regular song or whatever and um it's the entire backbone of their biggest hit um you'd have to you'd have to pull it up i guess to understand but it's that yeah there it is so that's just on the thing wow and somehow they got away with it this episode is brought to you by dodge i've recently had the chance to get behind the wheel of the new gas powered dodge charger scat pack and it reminds me how much i love cars that give you an adrenaline rush the second you hit the gas first thing that got me was the sound of the performance exhaust it sounds awesome paired with a twin turbo six-pack gas engine mind-blowing i i love cars that sound like that and then i tried launch control it's fantastic you feel all 150 horsepower thing goes from 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds with a top speed of 177 miles an hour and it's comfortable it's nice to drive another cool thing you don't have to choose between control and performance you got all-wheel drive when you want the grip but you can switch it to rear wheel mode and just have fun with it totally get why people are so excited about this car i loved it check out the new dodge charger scat pack learn more at dodge.com dodge is a registered trademark of fb fca us llc this episode is brought to you by takovas all right seriously if you're looking for new boots or shoes this summer you gotta check out takovas these guys make some super durable and handmade boots besides being incredibly comfortable right out of the box they've also got some great slip-ons perfect for casual summer fridays their stuff is built to last and made for long hot months ahead and they look great with everything from jeans to khakis to linens suits. 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I was doing that joke during the pandemic to the point to where it got extended to where you were part of it. And what's funny is I left those tags of the longer joke out of the Trump rally one, which probably would have protected me. It probably would have saved it going, ah, it's gonna get me stabbed, whatever. Well, then you would have to do the Amy Schubert joke. Well, yeah, there was a lot to it. Yeah. People don't realize that that's a small bit of a much, much bigger chunk at the time. Well, that's why it should be in a set, you know? Of course. Comedy is such a weird art form. I mean, look, I love it to death, but real comedy should be seen in person. Oh, yeah. You know, Stan Hope said this once, like, it was like, everything we do on TV is just to try to get people to come see us in the clubs. Exactly. Like, that's really what it is. It's like, you just really want people to go there live, because that's the real fun. Yeah. The real fun is all us, a bunch of human beings, fucking around and having a good time. Right. As soon as you start taking it seriously and making it something that it's not, like, you're, I get why you're doing it, because that has become a thing that people do today. But I'm just saying, like, for your own mental health, just not, it's not good for you to be engaging. Like I was saying about the Carl's thing, like, just engaging in conflict. It's not good. It's not good for you. It's bad for you. Yeah. Feels bad. It's not good. It's not, it's your, this is, there's negative energy and positive energy. You should spend as much of your time possible on things that make positive energy. I know that sounds hippie, because I'm a little bit of hippie. I got a lot of hippie in me. But that's what I believe. I believe you should spend as much of your time having fun, making people laugh, having a good time, and less about dwelling on shit. Yeah. That's why I try to stay off Twitter, because when I get on, I just start freaking out at all. All the different news stories that are just abomination after abomination, where you're just so angry. It's just impossible now. And, you know, it used to be Twitter was Twitter and this and that. But really, it's just the news. X is the news. It is the news. And it's so hard to absorb that. It was fun. And, you know, it's cool and all. And my algorithm still shows me stuff that I love. Police chases gone wrong and UFC highlights. And, you know, all of this stuff. But all the stuff around that is just crazy. I did a thing because I was staying at a hotel in D.C. right after the State of the Union or something. Anyway, I'm like, OK, it's a hotel TV. I never get to watch regular TV. I'm going to be asleep in a few minutes anyway. So I threw on. I ended up going by CNN. I'm like, let's see what these wackos are saying over here. Let's see how fake the news can possibly be, because from what I understand, the most recent State of the Union was a solid State of the Union and very positive and long and entertaining. Let's see what they say. Oh, racism. This he caused the deaths of black people here. He's the reason why we why America's failing. It's the reason why we're the laughing stock of the country. It made me so stressed out. And I'm like, OK, well, let's see what Fox News is saying. And it was crazy over there. And then you have. What do they say? Well, they had their counterpoint person on, unlike CNN, where they're just all in agreeance. Yeah. Yeah. And going by six people literally going, yeah, he's the worst. And let's not forget that he doesn't think trans people deserve this and this. And they're just going on and on about straight doom. And Fox News had a counterpoint person that was stressing me out. And, you know, I swear to God, I'm not kidding. This is not a joke. I was flipping through the difference. I go by MSNBC. I'm like, oh, my God, this is crazy. I put on Silence of the Lambs to calm yourself down. I swear to God, I was asleep five minutes later. And I ended up it just coincidentally was on the Buffalo Bill part where, like, he's got a girl in the basket here, darkness. And I'm like, oh, finally, some peace on the cable television. I never get to just watch normal TV. So did Fox News have a positive spin on the State of the Union address? I did not watch it. I remember for some reason it was stressing me out, whatever was going on, because like they had they at least Fox has they'll argue still like the news used to be. They'll have both sides on and kind of talk it out. And CNN has that poor guy, that poor one guy that just takes all the bullets for everybody is just going, you're lying. This is that stat doesn't exist. Scott Jennings. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That poor guy is probably he's probably has months to live. He takes so many bullets every day. He's a fucking war hero out there. It's it's a very turbulent world when it comes to discourse. It's just everybody's mad at everybody else. It's really weird to watch. It's really weird to watch these these shows on CNN now that are basically like bad podcasts that get interrupted every five minutes for a commercial. It's really what it's like. I just don't I don't remember it being that way, where it's just so many panel opinion shows. I remember it was it was like CNN used to have Bourdain's show on, you know, where they would travel around the country and check out or travel around the world and check out food. And it was interesting. Yeah. He would give you his perspective on the cultures and all the problems and the things that these people are facing, their food and what the community was like. Fucking great show. They did a bunch of different shows that were different, you know, and then. Somewhere along the line, man, they just went all outrage. Yeah. And I don't think that's going to get any different now. I mean, now it looks like Barry Weiss is going to be running that as well. So she's running the CBS News and perhaps she's going to be running CNN. The same company is going to be running CNN. It's like, OK. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. Because it's already people already don't want to listen. They don't want to take it seriously. Yeah. You know, and that's why X has become the news. The reason why it's become the news is because they can't trust the news. Right. You know. Totally. It's crazy. Like Tim Dillon had these two New York Times reporters on his podcast and I listened to him talking about it. I hadn't listened to them on the podcast, but I listened to him talking about it. And he was saying that they said there was no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence. And I was like, what? What? There's no. Watch one Mike Ben's episode of my podcast where he breaks it down. It's almost impossible that he's not. Right. What the fuck are you like? No evidence. No, that's not true. There's just evidence that you're not considering. So it's like if the New York Times and the people that we're always supposed to trust to be the objective purveyors of all that's going on in the world, if they're compromised so they're not allowed to say things or they have narratives that they're supposed to spin one way or another, or they're very cautious about being honest about their opinion, very, very shielded about their actual opinions. Either one of those is not good. Or if they actually believe that, that's not good either. Right. Because that means you're not really paying attention. Right. Objectively. Like watch a Mike Ben's episode where he breaks down Epstein's connections. It's nuts. The whole thing's nuts. It's crazy that anybody could say that he wasn't intelligence. Yeah. There's no doubt about it, but they will do anything to push their own story. They don't. Yeah. It's, it's a propaganda network and whatever that propaganda is, I mean, that propaganda will shift depending upon who's in control of the realm of the, um, the reigns rather the realm really is a realm realm of nonsense. Well, whoever's in control, they're going to be the ones that dictate how the narrative goes. And it's always going to be whatever the sponsors are. That's why you never hear anything about any of these studies that they're showing about the vaccine safety signals that they found very early on how they hit it, all this Fauci stuff. They're, they're not showing any of that. The Tulsi Gabbard speech. We talked about that where, you know, she gave this speech explaining how he lied to Congress. And Fauci, uh, pressured these other scientists to change their perspective on whether or not it was gain of function research and yeah, the shit that we had a pretty big feeling about back in 2020. Yeah. You don't hear any of these people. They're not covering it and they can't because they can't really tell you the whole news. They can only tell you the news they're approved to tell you. That's not good. And that's how X comes about. That's how X becomes the place where everybody trusts. But then you go to X and it's just filled with horseshit. There's so much lies. There's always video of something happening and they're saying this is going on right And you're like and then someone says no, this is a video from 2022, right? This is in you know, this part of the world is a I this is China. This is not Israel This is you know, it's like there's so much horseshit and there's so many bots Yeah, it's like it you just dip your toe into the water and you just feel poisoned like I gotta get out of here Yeah, but then you feel irresponsible for not paying attention Exactly, you know I feel like so many people feel like they're doing the right thing watching the news and being informed and they Hear that the news is fake and they think that's just like a Trump talking point I've always said that Trump calling it fake news was like one of the worst things that could happen because then it sounds like a Trump thing and the Trump enemies go haha fake news Sure, it's fake if he's saying it then I can't be fake because we have to disagree with him Meanwhile, it's a fucking it's a goddamn production. I mean it is And they're right. It's fake. Yeah, it's fake. There's a lot of the news. It's fake It's not true all that. I mean the fact that no one got in trouble for all that Russiagate stuff crazy Absolutely crazy and that they still listen. That's the same people that were pushing that Russiagate shit or they're still giving opinions on TV, right? It's nuts. Yeah, there's no repercussions to be found. They get to say whatever they want It's crazy Well, the repercussion is no one takes them seriously mm-hmm and that's real they've suffered that I mean we've seen That in real time and I think the pandemic was the big that was the big wake-up call for a lot of people Especially people that were forced to take the vaccine because they had jobs Or you know, they had a fly or they had family members and then they got some horrible side effect and Those people got what they call red-pilled, you know, I know a lot of people that got red-pilled from that They just can't take it anymore it's crazy and it's Bubblish, you know what? I mean, there's certain areas geographically in which that's the mentality and they stick to it. I mean here in Austin I'm known as you know, a skinny little faggot I went to LA and it turns out I'm a racist Nazi Like I'm like they were doing jokes on me at that roast in which it's like, oh, what are you guys talking about? There's parts where I'm literally like what I've never even heard this about myself I'm on a comedy show every week where people take shots at me and I've none of this is a thing Well, it's made up and it's all they also made up a bunch of stuff about like you going to Saudi Arabia Yeah, which is crazy, right? Crazy, they just made it up. Yeah, not only made it up turned it down Yeah, didn't go when offered vast sums of money that the busboy bag boy Tony would never imagine turning down and people don't even know that you turned it down, right? Cuz you haven't been public about it, right? I mentioned it I meant glazed over it on one for one moment on kill Tony once but yes I people's that turned down that money are you and Shane Gillis? Yeah, and meanwhile Netflix clipped that and Po and pinned it on their Instagram that joke and with the caption long sip because I'm sipping my water because the joke isn't on me So the camera shouldn't be on me Meanwhile, they're getting my reaction shot to all you guys took that Saudi Arabian money and make it makes it Look like I'm offended or something or guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money But just a joke when you just lie about a fact and to make a joke is crazy Mm-hmm, cuz you're just lying Like that's there's a difference between that and making a joke about something like you had to make something true and then criticize them for something So you had a lie about something and then criticize them about that lie that you just invented Yeah, which takes three seconds to find out it wasn't true exactly Takes a really quick search look. Oh, he didn't go right? Okay on the contrary the the guys that Chelsea was complimenting during that set basically Kevin Hart and Pete Davidson did take the money Right and went to Saudi Arabia. Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler would have taken that money if they offered her to go to Saudi Arabia She went to dinner at Epstein's house. Exactly the fuck are we talking about? It's alright cuz Woody Allen was there Yeah, and apparently she gave him the what-have-you told him That's what they said. She told him she was very upset with him Yeah at the intelligence agent slash Sexual predators house. Yeah guys were arrested for statutory rape That's fine, though Crazy just yeah, don't be a white guy It's just the whole thing is so stupid Like if you want to make fun of someone for anything for you know, you looking gay or you like you're down with that but there you When you invent a fact that's not true you say it's not true and then you criticize someone for that like that's stupid That's a stupid way to do comedy. Yeah, you know and the way that it's covered and everything It's like what what are you guys doing? Well, if you didn't know and you people didn't know obviously because they laughed they thought you maybe you did go or maybe Shane did go They didn't know that you were the two people that did say no You know Jessica curse on went and she got criticized so much. She gave her money away She gave the money away. I think she gave what did she do with the money find out what she did But I was like, oh man, listen those people that went to see Jessica curse. I first of all heard she murdered over there She's very funny. She's a fucking dynamo. She's a killer on stage. Very very entertaining lovely lady. I love her to death She's fun to talk to She fucking murdered over there. I heard so a lesbian woman from New York went to Saudi Arabia and like it Donates Riyadh Comedy Festival fee to human rights campaign. Well, well all that money's going to someone's payroll Yeah, it's going to a daycare center in Minneapolis. Yeah, you feel better But meanwhile some it's paying for someone's salary. That's probably not fixing homelessness or whatever the fuck it is That's what they do. Tom Segura went and put a photo of a Ferrari and said thanks Saudi Arabia. Yeah But everybody was very upset but my my perspective is The people that are in that audience if you're upset at the people that are paying and organizing, okay The people that are in that audience though that they're performing to they don't get a chance to see American stand-up comedy And they're getting a chance to see it live and stand-up comedy like music like literature Changes people's minds it changes all art where you see someone a different person than you with a totally different perspective That lives on another side of the world that says something that you think is hilarious And you love it changes, you know It changes people's perspectives you win hearts and minds I mean that's real like you can change the world a little bit by getting people to say hey we kind of are We all have a lot of shared interests. We just want to have fun We just want to be with our friends be with our family and do what we want to do like everybody wants that Including those people in the audience like those people in the audience in Saudi Arabia. We're just Saudi Arabian citizens They're just a bunch of people that live there They came out to see Comedy like performing in front of them. I mean What is wrong with that? It's was wrong. It's wrong. You're supposed to boycott it because the people that run it Probably were involved with the killing of Jamal Khashoggi in some way or the people that finance it Okay maybe I See, I see how you didn't want to do it and I see how I Shane didn't want to do it and I probably probably Wouldn't want to do it either, but I don't have any problem with people doing it because I think at the end of the day You're just like I don't have any problem with Saudi Arabia putting on these boxing matches that I talked about I love that they put on these boxing matches and oddly enough That's not really criticized that much even by like heavy-duty left-wing MMA media, which is a real thing There's a lot of like shit shit libs that are MMA media Because they're journalists and they just happen to be fans, but they have that like hardcore left-wing perspective They don't seem to have that much of a problem with it Not like people had the problem with the comics over there Where guys like Louie and Bill Burr, they just get destroyed for that. Yeah Yeah, it's nuts, but I think Segura had the right move. Just don't even pay attention. Fuck off I'm gonna perform wherever I want to perform You know, yeah. No, it makes sense. Totally. I just can't go straight from a Trump rally to Saudi Arabia a little bit of a hop a skip and a jump I Know it's also it's like, you know What you want to do? I don't want to go there. It's too long, right? I want to be on a plane for 16 hours to go anywhere. Yeah, it's why I hate it. I hate flying. Yeah, fuck off It's terrible come to Texas. Yeah Yeah, exactly it's just we live in a very polarized society and I think a Large part of that is what we were talking about earlier with social media and mentally ill people just just screaming into the fucking void every day I Just would like to suggest to people just try not to To engage like that for a month and see how much better you feel Yeah, just try it talk and make friends, you know, hopefully that's not how you've set up your life where you have to do that for a living Hopefully you're not one of those people because there are people that are paid posters and they make a pretty good living Just posting and getting engagement. Well You know, I don't know what to tell you you're trapped, right? You know, if you're if your whole thing is like shitting on people all day long, you're kind of trapped. Yeah, but you can't feel good It's no way. No There's no way. It's like the amount of cortisol that must be pumping through your body all day where you're going over and and i see like people that do that i see how they get destroyed in the replies and i'm like and i know they're reading that like good lord yeah like i don't know how gavin newsom is still alive every time he posts something the way he gets destroyed in those comments it's like god fucking insane well no one is happy it's just the funniest thing because it's he reminds me of like one of the last actual politicians like he's a different just lying ignoring of facts type of human being because we're witnessing it maybe it's easy for someone in uh i don't know new hampshire to go ah that gavin newsom's the future but we lived in california and i've been to san francisco recently you and we've seen it like when you travel you know comedians aren't the end all be all and these wise whatever sages perhaps but we do travel a lot and you spend a weekend in a city and you're not just doing your shows you're having lunch somewhere you're having coffee somewhere you're dealing with the people at the hotel lot whatever it may be there's different communications and vibes and energies and there's so many of these places especially california you know san diego's like a last stand huntington beach is an area around there there's like these little pockets in which there's still some common sense and happiness enjoy newport these little pockets but those major cities are fucked man even the drive and you know i go to la basically maybe once a year now for a quick always fun visit always doing some arena and a couple nights at the store which is different unfortunately but the drive from lax to that area of west hollywood slash beverly hills is gruesome everything is for lease everything is empty um there's nothing new except for the crazy looking weird ass obama museum library which is the craziest weirdest eyesore humanly imaginable where's that it's like on the way up there i can't remember if it's like off of la cienega or fair that's not the new one because the new one is in chicago isn't it oh it is what's the fucking they built something that looks just like that monstrosity no the one in chicago people don't like it i think it looks dope it looks like it looks like something from blade runner yeah i like it a lot of people don't like but it cost a lot of money cost like 850 million dollars see if you can find out what that building looks like show me a photo of something that looks just like that building sports complex on uh in los angeles they made who did the obamas yeah oh okay um what is the um the one in chicago a lot of people were criticizing it and i saw it i go that thing looks dope i love it like that thing where is it yeah the one there where your cursor is click on that oh that's a rendering i don't think it's done yet oh it's not done maybe i don't mean this looks like i thought people were in it i don't think so what's it down there in the lower showed this online and everyone was going crazy i thought it was a rendering i don't think it's done yet people were already going to it i don't know that um i think that's it that looks like a rendering to me that looks fake as but that one down there that one down there with the darkness in the corner yeah right there is that real encyclopedia britannica i think that's a real photo i think it's done i might be wrong but oh you have uh los angeles chicago yeah it's real so it's up but i i think it looks cool it's different uh people are saying it's ugly it looks like see if you can find photos of it go to images yeah just there we go like there dude i think that looks dope um really yeah yeah yeah window list look at how it also writing on the top what does it say go all the way up please i'm trying oh uh unconstrained convention by what is written on two sides so oh right oh it goes all the way around it oh that's fucking cool i think that looks cool i mean maybe i have no taste i mean we can't even find an angle of what they're trying to say there's so right i don't know what it's saying but i think it's cool that they did that that they had words that go across like that i just think it looks sick but i like that kind of brutalist architecture i think that's what they call it yeah i like that kind of cool cement with big glass like there's a lot of houses like that especially like in the hollywood hills that i love i looked at one of them back when i was starting to make that cheddar and uh i was like maybe i should live in hollywood and then i could just do the store right there but i was like probably not that safe i looked at the house um above um the store that mitzi was selling what was on colfax was that what it was was that those street it was the comic store the comic house where like kinnison stayed there and paulie lived there for a while but i had dogs and i was like this is not enough backyard it's too small and also it's like it's too close to the machine yeah it's like right next to the beast like i don't know if i want to be like right next to the beast i think i'd rather be outside the beast and go visit like that for me for my head but uh i looked at a couple of houses up there and one of them was this house that was like really it was out of my budget really i was just i shouldn't have been looking at it it's like 10 million bucks and it had crazy like like concrete with massive windows but it was right there on the street like you're walking on the street there's a sidewalk you could ring over and touch the front door of the house and i was like yeah this is kind of crazy to buy this house and the guy was like don't worry we have state-of-the-art security system so i go yeah you know what that is i go your cameras are going to catch a guy with a ski mask robbing you yeah and two weeks after i said that the guy in the house got shot in it whoa two weeks got shot in the neck yeah damn yeah yeah so hey that's these places man but the arc that kind of architecture i think is dope i like like that crazy modern cement stuff but for a house like what you're gonna live in the reality is you'd probably be like i'm sleeping in a museum this is too weird yeah i'd rather just have a regular house yeah windows are a necessity yeah i just want to see stuff i just want to be able to have a cup of coffee and see some trees you know let me just sit down and collect my thoughts for the day you know i don't necessarily need to be in a museum concrete ass big it's there's something weird about it it's like you're too weird if you live like that you're weird man you're living with this giant 20 foot high glass wall in front of you that looks out at the blade runner scape that is los angeles from the hills yeah have you seen that view at night have you ever been up to a house oh yeah have you seen this house oh that's sick i love that house it's known as like the oakley founder's house i don't know if he still owns it but yeah that's up there yeah that house i love see if i was single and a baller that's where i would live 210 million a bargain love that i see like that i'm like oh my god that's where i love it but i don't want to live there for real yeah i think after a while you would be like i'd rather have a log house i was trying to find pictures of kanye's conga house concrete house but this is not the one that's dope i just love those kind of houses that look like that like especially that one that circular one the way you pull into that driveway and the the entire back house faces the lights and you see the lights like it's hard to see from photos of how look how sick that looks man that's sick i love that but the lights from that like if you're up in the hills you want to be above looking down and it's like a movie it's like a sci-fi movie it's one of the coolest views i've ever seen paulie has the as crazy as it sounds that when he made it he bought a house that's on top top top top top of the hollywood hills yeah with that mtv money dude it's crazy he remodeled it recently when i was there for the festival he's like dude you gotta come see the house come see the house i'm like paulie i'm so busy that's very highly unlikely come see the house dude you gotta come to the house sure enough i went there one afternoon for a coffee bro it is crazy he was right he's got the house he did it it's on top of everything so there's if a robber does try to go up there they're robbing someone else's house they don't want to go to the tippy top of the hill that's a tough escape that's the problem is the escape yeah you want to be close to the bottom right so you can right speaking of which i've been watching uh i got i went down a rabbit hole the other day on youtube we're uh street racers and there's this one guy uh who is like a famous street racer because uh there's all these videos of him he got his uh his thing set up where he can shut the lights off he's got this black corvette i'm gonna send this to you jamie i think i've seen this guy yeah his name is really slow like r y l s l o um and he's got videos of these cop encounters so they like baits cops and then goes on these mad runs and you you watch it you go holy shit i love it cars on the screen yes this is the dude yeah so about him not just yeah this is well he's like a legend online because he does interviews only with a voice changer where it takes his voice where he describes all the modifications that he did to his car but he puts a 3d camera on the back of his car and he uh you know they have those things where you stick it on the back of your car and it gives you a 3d view of the automobile you and he has video of the cops like flashing their lights and his car has got a thousand plus horsepower so these poor cops and they're like 300 horsepower fucking crown victoria they try to chase this guy he just disappears and then once he gets out of the line like go back to that video where it was before watch this i mean it's this is it's just edited it's not his videos it's just i understand but if you just i know this video but if you what what he does is they start pulling over and in the beginning when they pull him over he hits the gas and then shuts his lights off did you pass that spot here it is so so this is it so they hit the lights and he's like see ya are they going to show it yes this is not the okay so it's not the compilation so when he does it and he hits the gas he gets far here it is he gets far enough away from them they're not showing it these motherfuckers they have to edit their own shit leaving it alone is better so he gets ahead of everybody and then just he has a button where it kills his headlights and he's using night vision oh wow yeah it's nuts so is this it yeah he enters ghost mode here yes this is it so this is this guy so his license plate says we'll run like it's a fake it's a fake license plate the cops get up behind him they hit the lights and he goes bye and the cops realize there's no way to catch this guy it's not look at that oh lights go out and he's gone and he's flashing lights on people to get them the fuck out of the way and there's no way to catch him and then he bangs u-turns he knows where he's going he plots it out and the thing is he's filming this and uploading it oh yeah so he's gotta hide his identity through how many different channels how does instagram not know who he is how is he posting i guess he's using a vpn he's probably using a proxy and he's probably going through some other country or something if he's smart if he's smart enough to avoid detection but he just has these fucking crazy car bills like he's got a calvo viper that has like i mean i don't know how many fucking horsepower that thing has but they make some of these calvo vipers it's a company here in texas they make vipers that have 2 000 horsepower what like what the fuck are you talking about does anybody know where does he always do it in the same city i think he's in the dallas area how fun well yeah well not good if you kill somebody but it's uh very spooky yeah yeah it's nuts man because this fucking dude uh really knows how to drive too and you see these poor cops and one of them the cops wipe out they slam into another car and then they're trying to pass by these cones and the road cuts off and the cop hits the cones then loses control of his car and slams into another car so like people can fucking die especially if he runs a red light and he runs a lot of them and someone's being an idiot and he's maybe someone's doing exactly what he's doing while he's running the red light dude you have to see what kanye is doing right now it's a it's a historical moment in all of art it's unbelievable yeah you said that he's standing on the globe right well not only that he the entire everything is a super production and it's all him like you could tell he's made every decision and tweaked everything to the to the color of everything to when it happens to how it happens that it's not too much he's not overwhelming the senses with lasers and lights and all of this it's all so strategic but most importantly it's first of all it's the fucking greatest production i've ever seen of anything and i come from pink floyd land where the live show has to be ahead of its time and state of the art and everything for my mind to be blown and i was expecting this to be like every other rap concert that i've seen which is going to be fun and good and maybe great of course it'll be great but this was like a thousand times my expectations because first of all he's doing pop-up shows at stadiums which is crazy he announces it a week or two in advance and the stadium's like okay we're sitting empty that night we'd love to sell beer and water and get a percentage of merch right how these venues work they don't give a fuck and he's not promoting it everyone else that's been to one or seen one is promoting it and then the mayor of whatever city or whatever leftist person whether it be the governor of that state or whatever is like this shouldn't be happening so they're promoting it for him and it's filled to the top of the fucking stadium whereas even pink floyd or the rolling stones or whoever announces a tour all at once and goes hey buy tickets i'm on tour pretty please come right he's just like san antonio july 4th boom a week ago literally and what's crazy is that my buddy got me tickets to go see him in tampa because as all we knew is that he was going to tampa and so there i there i was and i'm looking and it's filled to the top and the floor is filled and it's he doesn't stop he doesn't take a break there it is i saw that on instagram after his first one that he did i think it was in la and i'm like oh that's crazy i need to see this that is nuts that stage is nuts but these pictures and videos do not do any justice to what he's doing and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna go to is happening sound wise energy wise just that stage alone is fucking insane it's crazy and he enters at the he walks through the crowd because obviously it's in the round he comes out and you hear a pop from one side because they can kind of see him and then the globe turns on and you know he waits until it's dark so he is he enters at one point and then inside is a a a a lift that is him so like there's no one that can storm that stage or anything because it's inflatable on the outside so it's an impossible impossible to you know storm the stage or anything like that and he's the only one that has access to the lift obviously and he has a tether that he's attached to so that he doesn't go off or anything so doesn't fall into the balloon exactly and it is the most diabolical show i've ever seen in my entire life ever and that includes all of the other shows that i've ever seen in my entire life and that includes all of the other shows that i've ever seen in my entire life and that includes all of the other shows that includes all of the other shows that i've ever seen in my entire life and that includes all the fucking everythings and again i come from the school of pink floyd which is always 10 20 years ahead of its time production wise and this was fucking nuts because he does not stop he does not take a break he doesn't go thank you guys for coming out until the very end in which he goes it's all about love i love you guys thanks for sticking with me all these years when all these people said this and then by that point two and a half hours then when he's saying that you're all about love i love you guys then by that point two and a half hours then when he's saying that you're realizing that he's always been a kanye fan like it's such a crazy fucking thing because not only does he have hits on hits on hits but he does not stop in between songs because some of his beats kind of correlate or this and that he'll literally just keep going and going and going until his amazing on his new album he has this keyboardist with one of those like crazy blow into tube instrument things i don't know what it's called but he has a solo a big one on one of the songs which is gives kanye a minute and a half to catch his breath an hour and a half into non-stop going and also on top of all that you know a rap concert's a rap concert but kanye's the greatest producer of all time in that industry so every noise that's happening even if he's not talking or or singing or rapping into a microphone is all him and him only you know what i mean like he might get an idea or an inspiration as we've talked about or he's a master of sampling um old hit songs and having them be in the backbone of the thing and everything but this is it's just a whole nother level of absolute insanity like i thought i was going to go there and be like yeah and maybe you know move a little bit or sing along or whatever and instead my jaw was dropped the entire time is there anybody that ever bounced back from being cancelled like him and that's really the underlying thing there's this feeling of loyalty that's there and were right you know what i mean there's a feeling that everybody there is like they're correct does that make sense yeah i saw a breakdown of it because my algorithms feeding me kanye stuff non-stop since i went to it because somehow fucking instagram knows and whatever and i watched a breakdown of it talking about how like it's like this psychiatrist or energy specialist or something that's talking about how and why this is the craziest concert ever done before and she breaks it down and goes people that like kanye believe in themselves because if kanye saying i'm the greatest i'm the man i'm a god all of these things makes you not like him and you insecure you're insecure does that make sense like it's like he if that turns you off to somebody then you don't really like yourself that much you why do you think that well again this was someone else's psychological breakdown of it and i'm probably not explaining it correct because i was stoned on a couch i see how what they would be saying to try to defend him but there's some people that just get turned off by that kind of braggadocious rap music i don't right i love that shit well i love 90s hip-hop talking about how great they are i love it yeah i'm a giant fan of that shit yeah you know i think like some of my favorite rap lyrics like some of naz's lyrics just him talking about how he's the shit yeah totally i don't mind it at all but it's like it's when you're singing along to that stuff and you're listening to that stuff like you're feeling what that guy's feeling when he's saying it and if his raps are hit if his rhymes are really hitting especially like kanye or any of the greats you know biggie tupac naz like when they're nailed it's like oh my god oh oh with good lyrics and good execution it's a beauty it's a amazing art form even if usa really did create it yeah i don't i don't want to believe that you know i think they're probably very they promoted it what's really interesting is the lack of big rock and roll bands i know jamie's kind of defended this but right i think it's a fact oh no no doubt there's less big rock and roll bands than when we were a kid when we were a kid rock and roll was everything it was like rock and roll and if you like rock and rap like you were a weirdo you know yeah like i really became a rap fan like almost like silently like secretly because you had to be a rock fan if you if you loved rock music and you went to rock concerts like that's all you liked but i was like yeah but this is good too oh yeah you know i'd like listen to ghetto boys i'd be like you gotta listen to this come listen to this is awesome yeah oh my range is absolutely ridiculous well our green room i just got roy orbison on vinyl oh oh yeah pretty woman oh my god and again that's one we're gonna be trouble for that probably and again pretty woman much like pink floyd's wish you were here is like one of my when you get into their radio stuff it's kind of funny how some bands and musicians get like typecasted by their hit whereas like pretty woman's kind of repetitive and easy even though it's a jam right but his other songs they're like i hadn't even heard before because i'm like this guy seems like he has some some hits and he does man and uh you know i what i mean by the pink floyd thing is it always fascinated me that people go oh yeah i like pink floyd wish you were here another brick on the wall and it's like damn it it's because those are the radio songs because they can't play an 11 minute long shine on you crazy diamond right all their real hits that they're real echoes which is like 17 minutes and goes slow and fast and and bluesy and then jazzy and this and that um yeah there were so many songs like that especially from like the 70s where they just took wild chances and had long ass songs like for famously free bird like record executives are telling them like the beginning of it is too slow yep and they're like nope this is the song exactly this is what it is bohemian rhapsody yep there's another one one yeah a whole lot of love yeah a whole lot of love is a minute and a half of sounds and symbols and it's weird i only recently got to see the uh the queen movie whatever that is is that bohemian rhapsody i believe so whatever they call it i haven't seen it yeah well i walked in on a part where it's the wreck they're at the record executive's office and he's going this can't be the main single off of this thing and and and freddie mercury's like dude it has and i'm obviously not right quoting this but uh and the record exec's like man you're saying gibberish at points it's slow with a piano you're saying things that don't even make sense and it's eight minutes long like what are you thinking and they're arguing back and forth and back and forth and his bass player guitarist or one of the guys that's in the meeting with this record exec sitting behind a big fancy desk points at the wall and goes so you were the record exec that made this huh and he points at dark side of the moon and you see the record exec go oh because what the was that it starts with a heartbeat has no words for the first what however long also what is the deal with it aligning with the wizard of oz crazy roger says it's just coincidental i know but it seems like the universe organized it yeah it almost seems like evidence of the simulation yep because it's so good the way it lines up yeah it's too good i've always said it's the craziest coincidence of all times i feel like it's evidence of the simulation there's something about it there's evidence of like some weird bizarre synchronicity between those two pieces of art yeah the produc producing that would have been near impossible impossible not like you couldn't but just the amount of planning and so hard things out yeah technology then would have been so hard to do yeah so hard to do yeah so hard pink floyd would have had to they would have literally have to watch it and then go over each beat and decide how high was the person that figured it out too right got discussed but like yeah how do you know hold on is it it's going it's still going right 45 minutes right but meanwhile it's perfect like we've watched it before it's perfect the lyrics are the scariest part god which one is which at one point when only when the only moment when both the good witch and the bad witch are there yeah it's nuts and the wildest one to me is always when she's balancing on the thing you know in black and white and with the other farmers around and on the run that crazy blue blue blue blue blue blue starts and she falls off at that exact moment and chaos is happening it's crazy is there a why in that conspiracy you know like why would they have done that just to do it just for funsies just because floyd yeah there's a lot of other movies you could have picked well i mean roger water says it was an accident i know i'm just saying like i know i know what the conspiracy theorists i don't know i mean i would imagine they think that i brought the people that believed that it was some sort of a coordinated conspiracy it's like why wouldn't they say that why wouldn't they just say we we lined it up with it'd be awesome the wizard of oz yeah if they said that it would make more people watch it and more people listen well they did pretty good off of it yeah they did pretty good who are we to give them advice yeah speaking of doing pretty good you're killing it dude congratulations thank you buddy it's awesome watching it all thank you man you're taking all the hits yeah keep on moving keep on trucking just makes it stronger on to the next one makes the jokes better new jokes are killing it yeah yeah it's fun we're having a good time yeah tuesdays and wednesdays are the best working them out at the mothership yes sir all right i appreciate you brother thank you man 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