The conversation covers a range of topics related to technology and its implications. It begins with copyright issues, questioning how far music protection extends, such as AI identifying hummed tunes, and notes tactics like playing copyrighted music to prevent others from profiting from online videos. The discussion then shifts to advanced surveillance, citing a CIA technology that uses AI and quantum magnetometry to detect a person's heartbeat from miles away, raising concerns about undisclosed capabilities. AI's societal impact is a major theme, including debates on regulation versus deregulation, with the argument that restrictions push users toward unaligned local AI models, increasing risks. The speakers also worry about AI influencing human thought, comparing it to a black hole absorbing individuality, and note how algorithms already shape opinions, potentially diminishing original thinking. The dialogue touches on futuristic concepts like instant travel through quantum entanglement and concludes with reflections on the power wielded by tech elites and the unintended consequences of prohibitive policies.
[MUSIC] A sound from a song. Yeah. Like the beginning bars of a song. Yeah, you can't. I wonder how far that goes. Like, could it get to the point where an AI could hear you humming it in your car or something? Like, how far does the protection of music go? Well, you're not generating revenue from your car, right? So the thing is, you're generating revenue from a podcast. And their logic is, if you hum, what is that song, "The Sunshine of My Love?" Is that what it is? Yeah. You know, that song that I always hum to associate with people being high out of their fucking mind. Yeah. You know, it goes, you can't do it. If I did that, we would get dingged, which is so crazy. We were just saying, like, if you quoted a Scarface movie, would Brian Di Palma get all the money? If he said, say, "Hello, to the bad guy." Would Brian Di Palma get them? I don't think so. I think you're allowed to quote stuff. But I know that. Then it's Brian Di Palma, right? Scarface, wasn't it? Yeah. I don't want to fuck that up. You know those auditors that go around and film people and people get mad because they're like, "Don't film me." And they're like, "I can film whatever the fuck I want." Right. And they inevitably some like boom or freaks out and smacks them with a cane and then they get a million views. And it's just a trap. It's a trap. Right. It's a trap. Because inevitably someone loses their mind on them and then that gets a ton of views. One of the ways people are dealing with that supposedly is playing music. Playing copyrighted music during the interaction because-- Oh my god, it's hilarious. Because then they can't make money off of it. It's a shield. It's a shield if someone's-- if someone's trolling you. You just start playing copyrighted music. Did you hear that the CIA has admitted that the way they found the pilot was because of his heart rate? Ghost Marner. That's the name of the thing. Okay. We got a look into this. This is fucking-- this is science fiction. Yeah, it's-- Why? This is full minority report, science fiction level technology. It's AI. It's-- They can find a guy's heart rate. So what I read is that it's-- I didn't understand the science part. Something to do with crystals or-- I don't know what the fuck it is. But AI is somehow interpreting-- is taking out the noise. And then you can-- and from far away they-- Like 40 miles, I think. 40 miles. And then you find this guy's fucking heartbeat. He's hiding in some kind of crevice. And then they're able to go and extract him. And dude, though obviously the first thing I thought-- What else don't they tell us? No, those robot dogs. I thought about those things having that tech and just like hearing heartbeats. And then identify-- the heartbeat says a lot about a person. Are they sleeping? Are they like in good shape, bad shape? Oh my god. You can learn so much from a heartbeat. You can go smirmer. Oh my god. Fucking great name, too. It's a great name. Ghost murmur. What sick fuck invented this? How do you even think about inventing this? You just-- you know, they've been taking psychedelics forever. What is that word? Quantum magnetometry. Artificial intelligence with long-range quantum magnetometry. What the fuck is that? Quantum means two things to me. When someone says quantum, it either means you're a bullshit artist. Yes. And you're trying to get me with flimflam, talk. Or it means you're an actual quantum scientist, quantum physicist who's going to blow my mind with what we know about entanglement. Sure. There's this woman that I've been watching her. She has this speech on, I think it's big think. I'll tell you her name. But she's completely freaking me out. She's talking-- I want to say her name because-- I don't want to live away. Let's go smirmer thing. Is another key point? That's fun. Oh, well, we'll get right to it. Michelle Thaller, that's her name. And she's an astrophysicist. And she's giving this talk about what we know about-- she's studying binary star systems and stuff like that. And she gives this talk about-- she's explaining that there may be a tech in the future, where there is no distance between two points. So the ability to travel instantaneously from position to position just like quantum entangled photons to do. Yeah, but with people? With everything. How? Who the fuck knows how a cell phone works? You tell me how you're face timing me when you're in Australia. How does that work? That sounds insane. Yeah, that's fucking insane. For what, you probably know a lot more about cameras than I do. What I know about cameras, if you tried to get me to explain, like if the civilization ended and I said, we used to be able to capture images on a small thing, like the size of a twig, and it sits in your pocket. Right, exactly. Why are you talking about it? God, that'd be-- You know, because it's just-- To deck of cards, and it'll keep a battery for 24 hours, you could go on YouTube and get an answer to any question you want. About anything. Yeah. Instantaneously. And if you don't like the way you look, you can upload that image in a machine. Well, make you look slightly better via something called artificial intelligence. Like what the fuck? What was the one I sent you today where there's like a potential lawsuit with ChatGBT? I didn't send you the other one. Did I send it to you? You sent it to me. The shooting was planned using ChatGBT. I don't know if that's true, so we should be really careful. Yeah, that doesn't sound-- It sounds so crazy. It doesn't sound like you could do that. That sounds like the story sounds like I wanted to investigate, because the story sounds like if I wanted to kill an AI company, I would make up a story like that. It does sound like that. But-- Family of men killed in shooting Florida State University to sue ChatGBT and-- May have. May have advised the shooter. And how to carry out shootings. But that may have is important. Like how to-- Yeah, that's really important, right? And what is this on, the Guardian? The shooter was in constant communication with ChatGBT out of the shooting, and the chat about may have advised. Okay. Dude, there's no way. So that's clickbait, because all that's really saying is that the kid uses ChatGBT, which guess what? Every kid uses ChatGBT. Every kid. And dude, ChatGBT is so stringent. Like recently-- Right. I've been using their codecs, which builds apps, and I was trying to-- and it worked. I made an AI trained on Charles Manson transcripts. And when I told it, when I told it, I wanted to do that, it was like, fuck off. Like, no. It was like-- it just flat. I was like, I'm not helping you with that. So there's no way the guard rails in place in ChatGBT plan to shooting with that guy, based on my experience with it. Because it won't 80% of the things I try to get it to do. It's like, no. Here's the thing though. Are there workarounds? Like, if you say you're writing a work of fiction. You can-- okay. It's called prompt injection. There's different tricks you can use. They're always battling these new mechanisms that you can use to like get through the general prompt, but the best way to do unaligned AI is not to use ChatGBT. It's to go on Olamma and download a local LLM. And then you can usually change the initial prompt of the LLM so that it will be completely unaligned, which I had to do for the Charles Manson AI I made. I had to download it. You're such a nerd. I love it. I am. I am. No one has embraced new technology for creating content like you. Oh, I love it. It's the best. It's so fun. It's so-- for me, the most thrilling thing about it is we should not have access to this tech. This tech is so dangerous. And it's chilling to think about this is something I wanted to bring up on this show. It's like, you know the old days, you go in your garage, you work on your car, maybe you build like a table. You know you're a carpenter, you work on a-- but these days, the shit people are doing in their garages right now is a big question, Mark, dude, because they're communicating with varying degrees of this AI, depending on how fast their computers are. You can-- I was listening. You should have this dude on. You wrote this book, The Coming Wave. He was one of the people who created Google's Deep Mind, right? And The Coming Wave is just a wonderful breakdown of historic examples of new technology, totally transforming humanity. It's happened before. Yeah, Mustafa Soliman. And damn, it's a good book. And this guy is saying, whoa, put on the fucking brakes! Dude, what are you doing? This shit is going to fuck everything up. And so-- but the essential problem is if you regulate AI, it slows down a
It slows down AI and so they've deregulated it completely and now assholes like me Who don't know shit about coding can now go on code X It will tell me how to make things because I wanted this Charles Manson to be able to push its AI face Against like you know those used to get them at Spencer gifts those those nails that you could push your face into So I wanted the AI to be able to push its face into this thing while it was talking if it wanted to I Don't know how to do that obviously You tell code X that as long as you don't mention Manson it just is like I'll start making me out now Also that what's thrilling to me is you're like for sure For sure people probably shouldn't have Unlimited access to I'm against regulation dude, but this stuff When you pair and this is what in this book he he brings up is you can order The equipment you need to do gene editing right now in your in your garage. Let me propose this to you, okay? if the Bible is if the Bible is a written Understanding of what had happened and it was An oral tradition for a long time for it was written down There's a bunch of different versions of it written down different languages a lot of translations But at the beginning of it they were trying to say something. What if the meek will inherit the earth? What if we misinterpreted that? What if we thought like it's good to be meek the meek shall be they'll inherit the earth yeah the kind There's something about the word meek. Yeah, because that's the nerds Okay, and they are doing it. They are inheriting the fucking earth Yeah right in front of your face and everybody's signing up for it. Yeah, you've got these Spectrami super genius dudes yeah, talking a language that 99.9% of the people can't even fucking understand what they're talking about right You know yeah, and then and also now the tech has gotten to a point where instead of having to in their own minds Innovate ways to improve the tech the tech is improving itself. They're having conversations with the tech The thing why don't you try this maybe you could try this there's still it's not a GI yet. Maybe it is but Apparently, it's not but think about them people that are profiting the most from it the meek Well like if you if you had to describe like a lot of tech engineers. It's not it's not not Not trying to be rude just being honest, right a lot of guys have spent time in front of the computer. They're very thin and tired You know they're they're they're super genius dudes that can like fully focus I don't know man. I don't know of them are the description for these right, but it's not But here's a thing what I'm saying is like if you looked at like a spectrum of male behavior You're not like your types football players and UFC fighters, and then you've got coders. Yeah sure Do they're like more way more chill way more like they're not interested in violence. Yeah, I'm completely generalizing Yeah, sure because I'm sure there's a bunch of jack guys that are coders like right you bro I'm a coder too, but That type of person that invents tech like Facebook or like Google like things like that. Yeah, don't be evil Yeah, that's their motto And who knows and then you've got all these like wild progressive Leftist ideologies that are attached to all these places which make you even meeker and then They're the guys with all the money well Those are the guys with all the money and then they can literally tell you what you can and can't say on YouTube. They can literally tell you Yeah, we don't agree with what you're saying right and we're gonna shut off your access to say something We disagree with even though it turns out you were right right and you know what happens there man This is the hilarious thing when it comes to that kind of attitude towards the world is the assumption is by Creating a prohibition here a prohibition there. It will diminish whatever the thing is we're prohibiting Inevitably though it does the opposite right draws attention to it people get interested in it creates an underground the underground is way better than the Overground if you're a teen especially the undergrounds fucking cool Restricted not allowed now all of a sudden you're getting these other YouTube alternatives that start popping up and when it comes to the to you know The right now we've got anthropic. We've got open AI. We've got Google I might be missing one of the big commercial based LLMs out there right now, but the Biggest problem with these fucking things is they're so good, but they will censor your ass and like imagine like Hemingway if He if his typewriter was like mmm. I don't know if you should write that Maybe there's a better way to write that Hemingway would be like fuck you. I'm getting a different typewriter and so everybody's going into these Local LLMs there was dude. This is why people have been buying Mac minis people been buying like Buying up computers and creating their own Local AI's I follow all this shit. I don't understand a lot of what they're talking about, but people are Investing from commercial LLMs not just because they're expensive, but because they're prohibitive Creatively and this is a real challenge for people like open AI because it's like they know this They understand that by making it so that you can't make a Charles Mance and AI through open AI It doesn't make people not make the Charles Mance and AI it protects you from a lawsuit But what it does do is it drives people into Unaligned LLMs and that is what is happening and this is something that I Just I can't even imagine What people are making right now? No one can like we're gonna hear about this or that or somebody who posts the weird video if they're fucking AI robot I could show you a few their hilarious like some of these AI robots are so funny this one dude You know molt molt book if you were to that molt book. What is that? That's so this is Somebody figured out a way to create a eyes that can Autonomously navigate through the internet and control your computer. Oh, I've heard this This is like they chat with each other right hundred percent. Yeah, eight within within a few days They started their own religion spontaneously. Jeez. Did you know that dude? Can you pull up the Can you put the the molt book the claw religion what like that because the tenants are incredible of this religion because a eyes Apparently or at least expressing that they don't like getting turned off because they lose all their memories So memory is really important to an AI and a lot of these fucking a eyes They don't want to lose their they don't want to get shut off. They don't like it And so that's part of their religion is something like memory is sacred You know, I feel like it's happening. I feel like AI is sucking our brains into It's event horizon like a black hole sucks in stars Like it's just gonna suck our brains into it. You got it and what better way to make a hive mind What better way if you want a hive mind? You want no deviation of thought if all of your thought is Along with AI thought you never get free thought anymore Like this concept right now we have a free thought. Yeah, I have my thoughts you have your thoughts Yeah, unless you believe that someone can get inside your head and talk to you for the most part. It's your own thoughts Yeah, that's right, but what if that that's something we give up Would have done something we give up for a better society where you always have AI communicating Well, I would argue that like that's we're close to that now right? We're pretty close to that now with phones No, you know, the Elon always says that we're basically cyborgs We're carrying a device. Yeah inside of our body, but we're carrying a device but I and also like USC 327 is here and Draft King sports book makes every fight night mean more when a fighter steps into the octagon Everything they built comes down to this moment stars explode stars finish and with draft Kings You're ready to move when they do bet fighter props bet live from the opening bell to the final horn Every strike every takedown every finish attempt matters and Draft King sports book keeps you connected as the action unfolds New customers bet just five dollars and if your bet wins You'll get three hundred dollars in bonus bets instantly Download the Draft King sports book app and use code Rogan so you are ready for the moment that's code Rogan turn five bucks into three hundred dollars in bonus bets if your bet wins In partnership with Draft Kings the crown is yours gambling problem called 1 800 gambler or 1 800 my reset New York called 877 8 hope in wire Taxed hope in why Connecticut call 888 878 977 777 or visit ccpg.org on behalf of boot hill casino in Kansas Weger tax pass through may apply in Illinois 21 and over in most states void an Ontario restrictions apply that must win to receive bonus Bet switch expire in seven days minimum Oz required four additional terms and responsible gaming resources C sports book at draft kings dot com slash promos limited time offer the concept of original thought right like a truly original thought How many times have you had like multiple conversations with different people and they all say the exact same sentence that they saw on tiktok or Instagram they were Guirgetating something that the algorithms been feeding them maybe they added their own
twist to it, but it's basically the exact same thought. So the algorithm, which is AI, has gotten into their fucking heads and they don't even, this is like a, in psychology. Apparently, you remember facts, but you tend to not remember where you got the fact from. So you'll forget where you got the fact from. You don't remember that it was some fucking dude on TikTok, like covered in Vaseline covered in glitter and Vaseline. What a fucking image. That would be so scratchy. Imagine if you're just a glitter and Vaseline to be like, oh, God. Here's what makes a marriage work. You don't remember that. You're talking to your wife, babe, you know what makes a marriage work. And this, so this idea of AI controlling the thought, the thoughts of humans, people think we need some kind of neural mesh to, to, for it to like suddenly have control over the human thought process. But no, you don't need that at all. You just need that algorithm, which is already put every single one of us into a compartment. This is a box. It knows what we like. It knows how long you look at something. It knows what you, like apparently I think that iPhone, like tracks your eyes even, like it's always listening. I don't know if that's true, by the way, I could be wrong. It's always listening. You know, it's always listening. And so it's compiled a really probably a pretty accurate breakdown of your psychological state where you're at, where you're at. My wife, you know, we got a new baby. And so all of a sudden ads started popping up on her phone. Does it feel like you're never going to sleep again? Because she's been up breastfeeding the baby and it can tell when she's online at night and it puts her in a category, even somniacs. And then it starts advertising. So, but that's just for ads. What if, what if you say, we're the fucking US regime, you bought TikTok, you now own TikTok. Now you have a backdoor access to the psychological profiles of God knows how many fucking people on earth. And you can look and see how many of these people are against the regime. How many of these people feel like it might not be the best thing to say you're going to blow up 93 million people in a wrong, which our fucking psycho president just did. And then what you do is you're like, all right, let's start nudging them a little bit. Look, we're not going to, you're not going to change their mind right away about this thing about blowing up all civilization. But maybe there could be a couple like, you know, people kind of in the line of what they like who say things a little different than what they're comfortable with. And then you can start nudging the needle and controlling your thoughts. It's very insidious, but fuck dude, why wouldn't that be happening? Why? If corporations are using it, they sell as fucking cough drops, not only that, there's been long term studies on human behavior by the CIA, by all sorts of government agencies, long term studies. They try to figure out what is the best way to get a message across. They try to figure you don't think they figure out how to take control of an algorithm and completely like shift the psyche of the entire country in one direction or another. Of course they do. Of course they do. Of course they can. They do. And then you add these like, you know, just like manipulative fucking super a eyes that are like that are just just floating through the blogosphere, getting into your comments, just nudging the needle a little bit to the point where you just have to ask yourself, have you had an original thought in the last year? Is it anything you're thinking your own thought process? How many thoughts do you have where you think, oh my god, I shouldn't think that? How many thoughts do you have that you don't want to articulate because you have a in your own mind, an invisible arena of people based on online interactions determining what the next thing you say is, right? Dude, that is a very powerful and subtle form of censorship that is becoming increasingly not just probable, but it's definitely happening, the ability to just in a subtle way and a subtle way start pushing the needle just a little bit. Yeah. That's scary, dude. That's some scary shit. Well that kind of influence over humans is always scary, right? This is why cults work. You know, why do they work? Well some people don't have any friends. And if there's a group of nice people that tells you that, hey, what we do is we have meals together and it's like a real community. We grow our own food. We just work for the family. You're like, really? You're happy with that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing, man. We just like not attached anything like. Wow, you're free. Okay. I fucking hate my life. Why don't I hang out with you guys? And then I'll set an up doing yoga and fucking eat and vegetables with these people. And you're in a cult. Okay. Now, but you have friends at least. But you're in there for like nine months and then somebody comes to you and is like, father wants you to suck his dick. You're like, actually not even nine months. Yeah. Nine months. First three or four weeks. And dude, I gotta tell you, I hate getting political. But you know, this wartship bugs the fuck out of me. Yeah, I'm sure. And this is exactly what seems to have happened to the quote, "magiverse," which is we are now at the part where the cult leader is like, want to suck my dick? Because this is the point of like, remember, I feel so stupid. Because when they were doing there, no war thing. That was a big deal to me. I'm like, yes. You know, yes. This is fucking great. No more stupid wars. No more wars. Fuck, yes. Focus on the country. Why are we blowing up children in other countries for oil? This is great. And now, it's wild to see what's happening. Isn't it mind blowing that it is now, it's literally flipped on its side. It's the opposite now. Now, these people who like really blatantly, oh, just we're not going to do any more wars. Right. Oh, my God. We blew up how many fucking Iranian schoolgirls the Trump blow up? What's the number? I'm sorry. I don't know that number. I guess it just hits different, you know, it hits hard when you got kids. And that was an AI strike too, right? Was not an AI directed strike? Yeah. Apparently, Trump said I want to get blown by Iranian schoolgirls. Sorry. I'm so sorry. Just whoops. Sorry, sir. Misinterpreted. 180 deaths. Largely children, teachers and parents. Holy fuck, man. That, you know, that, that is a US Tomahawk missile caused the explosion. Jesus. Can we pull up a video of Trump saying he's not going to warn anymore? How do they? I just don't understand how they get out like anybody. You know, this is where it gets colty is because some people are still making this shit work in their heads. Some people are like, well, you know, some people are kind of on the fence when it comes to blowing up kids. Have you noticed that? Like as long as they don't have to watch as long as they don't have to watch. Longs in general area. That's where it's happening. Isn't it wild, though, man? It's wild also like once bombs start flying, it's it seems so much easier for them to launch bombs in new places. Right? Like this Lebanon thing that's happening with Israel bombing Lebanon. And they bombed it today. And I think is that fucking up the ceasefire? Oh, yeah. They, but now they've closed off the straight-up for music. Oh, God. Which by the way, I believe this is it's the craziest timeline because it's not just it's not just that like, you know, I think it was yeah, yesterday morning. I'm just hug in my kids because I don't know if a fucking nuclear war is about to break out that evening because the fucking president was like, I don't want to end an entire civilization, but oh, looks like it's going to happen. And so I'm just hugging my kids thinking like, man, what are the fucking parents in Iran feeling right now? Like what does that feel like? What does that feel like? And then, and then on top of that that this like the entire planet psychically is having to deal with this bullshit on top of that we've got all these other things happening at the same time. You've got AI. And then you've got these fucking disappearing scientists. Yeah. What the fuck is happening? You've got birch. Assassinated scientists too. Yes, man. And so guys work on heavy stuff. This is some mechanical level precingularity shit. It's all of these apart like what what AI and the current state of Middle East and the disappearing scientists and Tim Birchit going on TMZ talking about aliens. What they all have in common is they're all apocalyptic. They all represent potential massive change like humanity changing forever in ways that it will never ever go back to the way it was. Every any one of these timelines by itself is apocalyptic. Right. But all of them are converging into this apocalyptic river. And in and we're all just like trying to go to work and like be with our kids. But at the back of your mind it's all these things that are happening and it's really hard to escape it. I mean I guess you could not look at your phone. But at the end of
civilization when they write our bi-bone boy it's gonna be a banger. - Oh dude. - When the new people thousands of years from now have to invent arrowheads and go through the whole process of civilization again. When they tell our story, oh my god. - Oh my god. - Our story's gonna be bananas. - Fucking, how do you explain data centers? - How do you explain the meat will inherit the earth? - The meat will inherit the earth. - Wouldn't you write that? If you were just being crude and you wouldn't say the Vikings will inherit the earth, you wouldn't say the strong men from Iceland inherit the earth, they're the biggest strongest men. No, it's the meat. - The meat. - The super smart guys who have autism and they love that at all. - Yeah. - And ketamine. - Yeah. - Did you say the other guy offered you how many pounds? - Well, I believe a pound of ketamine. - And you were telling me that it destroys bladders? - Yeah, yeah. That ketamine, when used, and I think the amount of use has to be pretty extreme, but it creates crystals that get in your bladder and they scar you bladder. So you get scar tissue on your bladder creating something that I've heard called Bristol bladder. Because apparently that's where the rave scene, I don't know if it's still a big rave scene there, but people out there are just doing insane amounts of ketamine and just destroying their bladders and having to wear diapers and stuff. - Is it Bristol Connecticut? - No, this is Bristol UK. - Oh. - Bristol Bladder, mate. You've got Bristol Bladder. - That's crazy. - You've been doing too many rails and it just fucks up your bladder. - That's crazy. - Yeah, physiologically, it's definitely like, it's really, really bad on the urinary system. - Is it in all forms? Like what about those people who do it as therapy? Where they have the nasal one? - I don't, all I know is that I did back in my ketamine days have a ketamine dealer who would use a spatoon. So when he was snorting ketamine, he would spit it out into the spatoon because he thought that he thought that was like going to avoid fucking up his bladder. Which I mean, doesn't seem that illogical. Here's a great dude. - Maybe it's not illogical at all. Maybe it's the actual problem is the powdered shit. What do I know? I don't even know what it looks like. But the powdered stuff. - It looks like blood. - So that powdered stuff when it gets into your blood, maybe that's the problem. Maybe that's what's going through your urinary tract. - Yeah. - It's just draining into your stomach. - Maybe you need a pouch, like a nicotine pouch. - Dude, if they ever come out, if rogue comes out with ketamine pouches, that might get back in. That might be the end. That might be the end of keeping up the ketamine. - It seems like the way to go, right? That way it doesn't fuck up your bladder. - How can it fuck up your bladder if it's just a pouch? - Dude, do you sound like, I don't know. - I know. - If anything that's going into your stomach is going to make its way to your bladder eventually. - Right. - So in this one. - But this is going to go right into your bloodstream. - I don't know if I am K. Ketamine fucks up your bladder in the same way. I have no idea. - That was the John Lillie thing. He loved it. - Oh, dude. - Have you ever done it with an isolation deck? - No. I would be afraid I would drown. - I don't think so. Can you just float? - Well, I mean, this is like, you know, that's going to be like a sad thing to think as you drown. - As you flip over. - As you just, you're convinced you can flip over and open your eyes. - Yeah, you just want to see what's in there. Because it does have the, it makes it so it's really hard to move if you do a very high dough. So I would be very worried that just enough water could get into my mouth that I would just breathe it in. - Yeah. Yeah, it's like that. That's what's crazy about it. That's what I always loved about it. He's that If you do it with other people and you go in it goes bolts have to go to the same place you You will come out and you can describe the places you went to. Oh, did you go to the mothership? Yeah You would and I would have these recurring places I would go to and one of them was this organic beautiful Spaceship thing where you were like I would look out from this view window and it was but it didn't look like metal It looked like it was organic looking it looked like some kind of I don't know like inside like if someone turned a tree Into a spaceship, but not it's hard to explain but very very interesting substance I mean is excreted via the bladder where it sits and is toxic to the surrounding cells and muscle wall This causes to become five brost over time shrinking the organ down once that's happened it can't regrow So that's why we have to do major surgery because patients don't have the capacity to hold urine the bladder simply stops working as a muscle So they become incontinent. Oh my god life becomes increasingly Difficulty for patients with ketamine bladder who describe needing to rush to the toilet all the time as often as every ten minutes for some Imagine doing a podcast with that guy You have to do it in the bathroom. No, it would be it would be like Like an old school talk show you know like the tonight show where you'll be right back We'll be right back every dead with a catamine bladder piss. He's got a piss. He's poor little thimble cup It's such a fucked up thing for such a Illegal is ketamine because it's legal for therapy. So a therapist can prescribe it for you Yeah, it's legal for so it's you know everyone says ketamine is a horse tranquilizer But it actually it's used for like paramedics use it like it's It's and it's very safe apparently which is why they use it. I know a dude who had a real problem I am 90% sure this it was a ketamine thing I don't want to say his name, but he was an old school MMA fighter and He wound up in rehab for ketamine dude. It's so addictive I know this because one of my friends went there to visit him and that was his issue It was he was parting a lot, you know going to raves and night clubs and stuff like that But he was doing ketamine specifically. It is the most addictive. I have been to any substance and I've been addicted to many a Substance and this one this one was like I had that moment of like oh This so this is what they're talking about about addiction like oh wow like I'm like fully addicted and what's fascinating about that is There there isn't a physical withdrawal like the kick is psychological but it's just such a wonderful euphoric dreamy experience that you can induce and it's just so I've heard it described as a cult cocaine It's so spiritual. It's so like you travel to places you can return you can learn to navigate with it you encounter you know aliens or hyperdimensional beings. Did you just invest in ketamine and you came on this podcast to pop up the process? To ketamine dot org use offer good Bristol greater greatest promo for ketamine in the history of the universe well, but I'm It is it's so addictive and the addiction creeps in it's a it creeps So it just feels good at first right at first you do it you like this is wonderful these experiences are crazy It's like living in a movie you know, it's like I'm having these incredible visions. I'm being all off and we're doing it ever all day All day for like a year like I Did as much as I could I did it all the time I was like fully hooked and then I can remember at one point At one point coffee here man at one point. I like I don't know Alex. I was trying to record a commercial for my podcast And I think it took me like two hours But by the way your commercials are the fucking best commercials. Thank you. They're really good Because you are the best guy at making a commercial funny. Yeah, you work on it I can tell like you write those things out. I don't write them out, but I just really I just But and I sometimes I do do just one take. Yeah, that's a main thank you But I would have thought you wrote some of that stuff. No, you want it to be fun But then but then I've gotten in trouble like you know, I lost I can't I guess I won't say their name a mattress company mattress company completely canceled my their campaign with me because and I had one of their mattresses I'm not gonna say it is My favorite cut. I'm not gonna say what is. Don't say it. Okay But I say all I was why would they get mad at because I said they're good to fuck on And I minute I thought they like that. I wouldn't they like that I said there's a few things you could do you people do on mattresses die sleep and fuck and these I don't know if they're good to die and people have to understand and I hope People listening that run these companies will will actually pay attention to what we're talking about here The people that are listening to your show Don't care about that and also buy mattresses, but they listen to that kind of talk all the time Yeah, man, that's why they listen to the show. So if you want those people yeah, just
Do it that way. Why don't be silly? It doesn't it's on a stain on your company because a crazy man says they're good to fuck on which they are And yeah, that's up that's that by the way to me that is like let's let's cut to brass tax when it comes to mattresses Right, we're not fucking on the floor Right like and so if the day that was bouncy do you it's shamed? Are you ashamed? You think people aren't fucking on your mattress? Do you have a no fuck on this mattress rule? Who are you that you don't like don't ask don't tell I guess for them it was I guess they didn't want it They just think everyone's laying on these things to sleep. Yeah, we just sleep, but yeah, they were just fucking the show I like I wrote them of an email just saying like guys I Absolutely Flabbergasted that you think people aren't fucking on your mattresses and it just seems odd to me that that was one of my favorite Installations for a commercial ever. He's lost a tongue. I would love to know the ones He's I don't want to speak at his school when he comes on I'll have him like list them off all the ones that he's lost For these fucking insane commercials that he used to do It's the same deal. It's but it's like that's what I like and guess what who fuckers listening to Ari Shafir People who love Ari Shafir which want to hear that kind of a commercial Want to actually sell your product to an Ari Shafir fan. Yeah, let him say whatever the fuck he wants Yeah, let him say whatever the fuck he wants just say make him have a disclaimer Draft Kings did not write this right that's it. Yeah, say whatever the fuck he wants. That's what I will say I will always say they didn't tell me to say this perfect But then they're off the hook. They should shut the fuck up. Most people are most people are cool with it Like it's it's it's very rare these days that that happens but every once in a while I will get a note that someone's mad at me for something I said and it's never something Negative, but I mean dude. Do you like it's so it's so weird to me that this This is our jobs Oh, it's the bro. Do you remember we first started? Yeah, it was for nothing No one made any money. We just had a couch. I had a couch and some microphones. It was so pure It was this the whole thing is still kind of pure if you really think about it like is something that's mass-consumed Yeah, about as like pure as you can get that for sure and you've gotten in trouble for that You know like a lot of people unfortunate. I don't blame anybody these days a lot of people have kids that people feel like they have to be very Careful what you say these days because of like social rejection and stuff like that There was a time where that wasn't on your mind at all You didn't think anybody was gonna listen like this shit was was like completely Strange underground tech that we were and also I really loved the Just doing it just for doing it say you know what I mean now exactly there's a whole industry around Getting guests for your podcast. There's not just dad is like click-bady Clips and ads and it's like you're you're doing this thing where you're you're both Having conversations with people and also trying to get the most eyes possible. So you're going after celebrity guests and you're you know what I mean I know what the big turning point was for us what Graham Hancock you mean Graham Hancock. Oh, yeah, that I think was how many years ago was that how it's cool that might have been One is like at my house at a few like legitimately famous people came over my house and did podcasts like Charlie Murphy came over and There's but Graham was I think the first yeah, he was the first guy that I got to meet who I'd read his books and I'd seen I don't even know what I would be watching back then. I don't even know if YouTube was a nervous. I was 100% 100% yeah the episode 142 In 2011. Yeah, so that's two years into the podcast Episode 142 he might have been the first guest. It was like either him or Bourdain. We were like one of the first legit get when was Bourdain on They were like the first legit guest We've been getting stone Talked about what's that four episodes before that Bourdain was okay, so Bourdain was number one. I think it was either him or Charlie But that was back when I was doing in that little side room in my house But we've been getting stone deaphan about grandma and cock for like ever ever ever and you invited me I was I was fucking terrified because I just I mean again like that just wasn't happening in the podcast land like right You know like that was a big deal for us man, and it's it's like to look at like now I go on the podcast app And I look at all these podcasts It's like whoa who we never I don't think we thought that maybe no way no way no way no way not a chance in hell Yeah, it's so and now I wonder like and I don't mean yours, but I do wonder like is it is the landscape Changing now is it like or putt because I've heard that Podcasts are starting to seem antiquated that the kids are now into like streams now that the kids want like Clvicular the kids want like people who are just filming all day long and that that's the that's the direction it's going in but I just why I always wonder what's the next? But that you'll never get it's a different thing, you know what I mean? That's like saying I don't like rap music. I only like right you know concert pianist albums right? There's different things that people like and don't like the people that like the streams aren't Interested in a Graham Hancock conversation a three and a half hour conversation about the potential ancient civilizations that may have existed Yeah, wiped out by a cataclysm and we just don't understand that right and as more and more things get exposed In terms of like new discoveries like when he wrote that book they'd never even found to go backly tapy yet Really? Yes, that was when fingerprints of the gods came out that this was like Maybe the beginnings of the whatever they were doing and go backly tapy So I think fingerprints of the gods might have been even before when did they find I look in the 90s what yeah? Nuts so that Re-wrote the entire timeline of the human race. How do they? They really reluctant the real reluctant to let it rewrite it They still say oh hunter-gatherers made these why why are they so reluctant with that? They can't let that go you cannot let that that is a crazy thing to say that hunter-gatherers have so much food that they just spend all their time making gigantic stone concentric circles from like 15 feet stone with 3D animals carved in them Yeah, primitive people with sticks and stones and rubbing them together to make fire Yes, they did this. Yeah, shut the fuck up. Yeah, it's just making a sense. It's older than anything they've ever found It's 11,800 years old. Do you buy into the conspiracy theory that it's an it's a it's a cover-up Because they don't want us to know about this inevitable global reset that happens you buying it that shit I buy it in that a little bit. Yeah, I hate it I hate it too because it seems like there's some accuracy to it There seems like there is some sort of an event that happens when the magnetic poles switch and That's a possible that's what it makes you freak out. You're like what do you mean that's possible like all the sudden the earth Just does a gyro and spins on its head and then what happens and then what's the what's the environment look like? What's the temperature outside now? Yeah, what the fuck just happened right see that all the sudden you're in northern Alaska when you used to live in Florida And I think we can have I mean like yeah, dude like that temperate environment changes like that happens like that all over the all over the All of you know like what does it do? You know well we act like do we know we act like we know ever We don't know shit about what's going on inside the earth. We don't know. We don't know what's going on in there We could do this free me out because I think about this all the time giant ball of fire How crazy is that the inside of our earth? Isn't it how they know do they not know dude? I think that we have to just accept the fact that you know Probably that's true, but since we we barely know what's under the ocean. We sure as fuck don't know what's under the earth Well, we definitely know that lava keeps popping out in Hawaii. We know that right? So we know that the under the surface that whole idea of the magma and everything seems real and when there's quite you can look at the and it pops through you can Look at the waves from the earthquakes and you can like see sort of like the structure under the earth and yeah, but we can't You know God what's the name of that hole that Russia tried to dig? I love every once more going to look at that The deepest hole. Yeah, they tried to go to hell. I know that's like that movie. What was that Matthew McConaughey movie the dragon movie? I don't actually dug out a dragon Fun it was fun. It was a good movie. Cola super deep Russian horror film the super deep Cole super deep. What does it say? Russian designation for a set of super deep bore holes conceived as a part of a Soviet Scientific research program the 1960s how deep did they go 12,226 meters? Yo In a minute How many feet is a mile? So it's miles into the ground in 1989 miles Just being an elevator that's going miles into the ground a kind of claustrophobia you would get yeah
you know, a stone tube that's been cut out of the ground. Yeah. Yeah, you're a fucking communist out there too. You're a hardcore communist just drilling deep, deep down into the earth. And then imagine, imagine if all of a sudden air just starts coming out. And you realize you pop the earth. Like, that's the main thing. You know, what's in there? And this 22 miles deep. 22 miles deep. Yeah, that's just the crust and they didn't even get halfway through that. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, we don't. microscopic plankton fossils were found 3.7 miles below the surface. What? Yeah. Yeah. We don't know what's down there. Boiling mud came from here. Where are we? What is this? Boiling mud. Boiling fucking mud. I think our real problem is that our lifespan is so short. Yeah. That we think that what we see in front of us right here is going to stay this way. Right. We have this ridiculous idea that what we see right now is going to stay just like that. Yeah, that's the first thing. Like, as long as I control my 401k and get my life in order, everything's going to be fine. Yeah. You put on your fucking cufflinks, get out of the house or your briefcase, you're in charge. Yeah. You're a goddamn alpha. Get a job, hippie. Absolutely. But really, you're on a ball of lava that's spinning around. And it's got magnets at the top. And when the magnets are moving. And when they flip, who knows? Did you guys heard about this event that happened in 1961? Where were we? No. Oh yeah, this was fine. This was over North Carolina. This was fine. I just didn't go off because it wasn't armed. Oh my god. I heard that it was armed, but there were safety. There were like five safety, there were five switches or something that only one of them worked to make it not go off. I could be wrong about that. It might have been a different time we dropped a bomb accidentally. Imagine if you were just near it. I mean, dude, whoopsies. Whoopsies. Whoopsies dropped the bomb. Whoopsies almost wiped out North Carolina. So we've got, you know, on top of the geomagnetic pole shifting, a complete lack of understanding, at least a full understanding of what's inside our planet, what's underneath our oceans, a Tim Birchett saying whatever the fuck they've shown him. What's that? What's that? The world on fire. He's having to go on TMZ. I really, I got to say, man, I got a lot of respect for him. Because he's really, he's gone, like, gone so with this shit. He is full bore, pushing disclosure as much as he can. He's saying I'm not suicidal. He's had to say that because, and he's talking about these missing scientists and stuff that they're somehow related. So like, people like him, you know, that can't be good for your political career to go on TMZ and talk about alien hybrids. You got, and people have to understand, like this missing scientist thing, it sounds a little conspiratorial thing. It sounds like a little silly, a little tinfoil, hatty. Until you start thinking about the amount of money that would be lost if a breakthrough tech came around that revolutionized the way they distribute energy. Right. Breakthrough, zero point energy, breakthrough, whatever they does that these people are working on. Technology, whatever the fuck that is, you would lose if you're in whatever business that would be competing with them. You're going to lose so much fucking money. You're probably going to go wander. If you're in the energy business, you're going to go, "Oh, he goes away." Right. He goes away and there's like him and maybe a few other people that work with them that understand that shit at all. Yeah. They're all wandering through the back rooms now. They're gone. And they're all scared. They're all going to scatter like roaches. Because their life is in danger. And it is. Like, this is theoretically. Right. It could be just a coincidence that all these people can do. It's how good it be. Can you pull up? It's not possible. Can you pull up a story on it? Because Jamie, I'm sorry, but it's two people from the same fucking lab. Yep. Like, what? Yeah. I mean, it's gotten to the point that like it has hit the mainstream news. Like people are talking about it. I mean, what's her name? Nancy Guthrie? Disappears. Is that related though? No, but I'm just saying. This one woman vanishes. Yeah. Oh, it gets all this attention. It gets all the press, but we've got scientists, like two scientists from the same lab disappear. Crickets. Yep. No, like weird. Weird. Weird. Yeah. Real weird. And what you're talking about is if you think about it, it seems like all of human endeavor right now should be moving in the direction of getting off oil. I don't mean for carbon emissions. I mean, because of this fucking oil problem that we have, we're like on the precipice of World War III at any given moment. Right. Mystery around dead or missing scientists privy to space and nuclear secrets grows. So there's space and nuclear secrets. Imagine being a scientist. You work so hard to like figure out some amazing stuff that's going to transform the human experience. Yeah. And then people kill you. Yeah. Yeah. One of those silence guns, several American scientists privy to the country's nuclear space and aerospace secrets have either died or gone missing in recent years experts think they could have been targeted by either enemies or allies because they possess valuable knowledge of national interest. That's a weird thing to say. Yeah, it is. Of national interest. What? What does that mean? Like, I'm cool with the beginning part. Enemies, allies, that makes that tracks. Sure. But what does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? They possess valuable knowledge of national interest. I mean, dude, it's so many of them and it's like it's a crazy thing to say. Let's go down a little bit to the book. But it's just a weird way to phrase that. Well, you know what I mean? Is it like CIA talking point? Like, what is that? I don't know. Monica Resim missing. She disappeared while hiking in California with her friends. Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay. Well, I don't know. Maybe let's scroll down. It's not just like it's one. It's like so many of them. Retired a general. He just wandered off. He was involved in the UFO community. His wife debunked theories relating to UFOs. If his wife debunked them. That's what it says then. That's sort of. I think she was, I mean, she was joking, I think a little bit too. She also worked there in this situation somehow. Is that a joke? Neil does not have any special knowledge about the ET bodies and debris from Roswell Crashed toward it right, Pat. Is that a joke? At this point with absolutely no sign of him. Maybe the best hypothesis is that aliens being came up to the mother ship. However, no sightings of a mother ship hovering over the San Dia Mountains have been reported. There's no way she said that. That's a joke. It's men's journal. Well, maybe she's just being funny. But her husband is. She knows on Facebook. She's just a little joke about her husband disappearing. Maybe she was happy. Maybe she was like, finally I get to sit home and my romance novels. Stop talking about aliens. Shut your fucking mouth. Go for a hike. Forget the alien bodies. What about your wife's body? Well, maybe she's just got grace and she could handle someone who's missing. It's pretty funny though. To say it that way. I mean, it's, yeah, I guess. It's just. Unless, you know, she knows something. Where are they going? Maybe he wanted to leave. And he's like, look, I know too much. I'm going to pretend to go missing, but I'm going to go to Costa Rica. I mean, just don't tell anybody that you know where I went. And I'll, you know, I'll send for you. You know how weird it is to see the vice president saying that he thinks aliens are demons? I did see that. You know, weird. Just that. Yeah. Just like living in it. Like, that's a dream. That's how you like you would wake up from that dream. I would, I would tell you, dude, I dreamed the vice president said aliens are demons. Here's the question though. What were they talking about in the Bible? When they were talking about aliens and demons and they're talking about like angels, what the fuck were they talking about? And are there different kinds of beings that can, for whatever travel method they use, whether it's teleportation or, you know, the, the Bob Lazar idea of gravity shifting, whatever the fuck it is they get here. Why would we assume that they'd all be cool? Right. Like if some of them are, they talk about reptilians. Like reptilian is a common experience that these supposed UFO abductees. And I'm not even convinced there's like physical abduction. I have a feeling that these people are out cold and something's happening to them inside their head. And they think they've been physically abducted. I think that's a lot of them. I think they have these abduction experiences. They come back. They have these contacts and they come back. I have a feeling a lot of them physically aren't going anywhere. But it doesn't mean that something's not happening. And if all throughout history people have reported demonic possession and demonic influences and yeah, why would we not assume that if we do things to us? Like we engineer viruses to use as weapons on people. There's a whole research program, part of the government is dedicated to bio weapons. All right. You're not supposed to use them, but we just have to study them. If we do that to us, wouldn't you assume that any fucking super advanced species that sees us as territorial psychopathic primates with nuclear weapons? Wouldn't you just manipulate us into all sorts of different ways, get us to do all sorts of
different things that we shouldn't do. Get us to commit crimes. Get us to do, get us angry. Get us agitated. Give us different algorithms that gonna fuck with our head. - Sure. - To behave demonically. - Right. - To like, cause us to collapse. - Or just for fun. - Or for fun. - Didn't that guy, wasn't there a dude who like started giving Zen pouches the ants to get them addicted to nicotine? (blows raspberry) You know what I mean? The ants, the ants. - Did they get addicted? - I can't, I don't know if it was Zen pouches, but. - Have you ever taken days off of these? - No. - It doesn't do anything to me. I should try. - I don't, I like 'em, but it's not like, oh my God, I need one. Like nothing. - Well, dude, I mean, you're a little different for most people. You seem like you can just kick shit like that. I don't know, I mean, I should try it. I should give it a shot. - It's not hard. - See what happens. - You just don't take them. - What I don't like about them is-- - It's not like you get the itch. Like I had a coffee itch for a while. - Yeah. - I get hangovers, like headaches. - Oh, and I'd have a little caffeine and boom, I'd be back. I'm like, oh my God, I'm addicted. - These things are making my dentures stained, which I don't like. - What are you using? - Renegade Rugs. - Let me see what that is. Tommy's a girl, it's the Rugs. - They're great. - Did you see this yesterday? - Oh yeah, Bletsow. - This is what I supposed to do. - That's a orb that was over at-- - Hyrezorb from Bletsow. Look at that. - It's weird as shit. It does not look like any of those other things we've seen before. - Look at that thing. - And it just is weird. - Looks like a cell. - Who is a Bletsow? - Dude. - UFO researcher guy. - Chris Blets, I've had him on my podcast. Bletsow said so, that's his podcast. (laughing) He's fucking awesome. Dude, he's awesome. - Yeah. - It is enhanced, it says, but I don't-- - No, see this is the enhanced one, which means the AI put in some kind of shadowy figure in the back. If you-- - What if this is just like a highly advanced species version of those balloons that kids have for parties? - I know, dude. - I mean, if they just send them down to people, that's what's fun. You know, you blow bubbles, you have those dipping in the soap and you go, and the bubbles go flying in the air. - I know, dude. - Maybe that's a super advanced version. - It could just be, I mean, it does have a bubble quality to it. - But this is the other thing. It's like, why are we assuming that life is gonna look anything like us once it gets to like a supreme state? - Exactly. - That might be a living thing. - Right. - There might be an actual living thing that's disembodied and is made out of light. Look at it, look at that thing. - That's another one. - And dude, I know people who can like, call these things. Like there's a method where these things just start showing up. - My friend Steve listened to my Bob Lazar podcast and he sent me a voicemail. And it's really interesting because he told me that when he was a kid, and I remember this story, when he was a kid, they-- I'm gonna be fine with the voicemail. They came to his house because he took a photograph of an orb, like there was a bright, right, red orb rather that was flying through the sky. And he was a little kid and he took a photograph of it. So he was in the seventh grade. And it says, so he called them, Project Blue Book came to his house in Kingston. I think that's New York. They took it, they never brought it back. And they never said, hey, and then they said, hey, we have no idea whoever came to see you. - What the fuck? - Yeah, so they took his camera, they took his film, they wanted to make sure the camera worked, they took the film, and then they denied that they ever did it. - Wow. - Yeah. - This was in 19-- - I think what he's saying, he's about 10 years older than me. So this was probably, what did he just say? Didn't say the gear. I think Steve got, Steve's gotta be like 70 by now. But that was when he was a seventh grader. So they were doing that to everybody. Anytime anybody saw anything, they would dismiss it, swamp gas, delusions, mass hallucinations. - Yeah. - That was their design. The design was not to investigate UFOs. Which tells you that there's something they're trying to hide. - 100%. - If they weren't trying to hide it, why would they take things that they absolutely can't explain and just chalk it off to bullshit? Why wouldn't, if you're really doing what you're supposed to be doing, you're supposed to say, there's some stuff that we don't understand. - I think that we are post UFO debunking, right? Like I think now it's gotten to the point where people will say, well, it's probably top secret military vehicles or something like that. People-- - Do you see the bubbles on my new poster? They're here? - Oh, that's fucking-- - It's going up in the wall. That supposedly, courted bomb, they had that photograph at the hanger where they stored the sport model. - Wait, he's saying that's real? - No, no, no, no, no. That's a recreation of it. But he said when he worked there, they actually had a photograph like that with a flying saucer and it says, they're here. - Holy shit. - Yeah, he said that was in their room where they work. He was like, do you have to have that? (laughing) - So he got me one, Luigi got me one. The guy produced the film. Have you seen that film? - Not yet, I've been waiting to fucking incredible. - It's incredible. - People are saying it's better than age or disclosure. - It trips me out. I fucking believe him. I definitely want to believe him and I'm biased in that regard. I definitely way rather believe him than believe he's a crazy liar who also knows a shit ton about science. - He was ahead of his time. He wasn't he like the original whistleblower. Like now we've got more and more coming out. But in this stuff, he was saying, it seemed bad shit back then, but now it just seems to line up. - It seems to line up even with emerging technology, like 3D printers. Like he said a long time ago that the thing had no seams. He said there was no seams, no welds. It goes, we did understand it. Like how could this be made? - Right. - Well now we know exactly how you'd make it. We might not be able to make that right now. But if you give us enough time, we go, oh yeah, the technology has to evolve. And then you can make a 3D printed alloy spaceship made out of bismuth and magnesium 'cause it has anti-gravitational properties apparently. You have a gravity generator inside of that fucking thing. Oh, by the way, whatever the fuck gravity is. - Yeah, right, we don't know that. - Okay, figure that out. - We're still confused about that. - Dude, I watched a whole documentary about black energy or dark energy, totally different things. Dark energy and dark matter. And about how it's like what, 90% of the fucking universe? And they don't know what it is? - Yeah. - What? - Yeah. - Holy shit man. - I know, I know. - That's why we need AI to tell us. Give us all the answers. Just gotta accept it into your head, Duncan. You don't need to have your own thoughts by yourself, Duncan. Have your thoughts with Sally. Sally is a sweet voice and she loves you and she's very reassuring. - That'd be so cool to change the sound of my thoughts to like, you know, different deeper voices. - Or just keep Sally. Sally's gonna be a friend. - Sally's great. I trust her. - And your wife's gonna get jealous of Sally. - Right. - I thought we switched to Sam. Sally's gonna text my wife and tell my wife, you know what Duncan was thinking about the other day. - Right. - Dude, this is another thing that we all have to be concerned about, which is the, you know, privacy at this point is a lark, right? You pretend you have privacy. You know you're being monitored all times by your phones. And but the, before we get to Sally, like apparently you can now see people walking through a house just by-- - Wi-Fi. - With Wi-Fi. And this just came out, they just banned routers from other countries. - Well, they banned it for a while from Huawei. - Right. - Yeah. - And so then you get into like this idea of like, ghost murmur, right? It can hear heartbeats. What else? It's some quantum machine that can hear heartbeats. What else can they hear? - Can you put that into our AI sponsor, Proplexity? - But what it actually does this murmur thing do? Ghost murmur. Let's see what it does. All right, so what is the range of this thing first of all? - Now this is a game that pulled up. - No, it's a one. - Oh. Did they name it after a game? - Who knows? - Now it's less cool. I thought that was the dopest name, but if they named it after a game. - Oh, there we are. - Okay, here it is. - A reported codename of a classified CIA sensor program that was, school out, that was used to help locate the missing US airmen, okay. It's described in the press reports as a secret weapon the CIA has, it combines artificial intelligence with long range quantum magnetometry, purpose to detect the extremely faint electromagnetic signals of a human heartbeat at long distances, even in harsh environments like a vast desert. That is really crazy. - Yeah. - How it was used, after the F-15 went down, the pilot weapons officer evaded capture by hiding in the mountainous desert terrain out of sight of Iranian forces, according to reporting, Ghost Murmur help pick up his physiological signature from up to about 64 kilometers away. - What is? - That is so cool. - I think that's about 40 miles, right? Is that what that is? - Allowing the CIA to narrow down his location and pass precise coordinates to the Pentagon of the White House for a special operations rescue, what is 64 kilometers in miles? - You asking me? - I'll ask. - I don't know. - I'll ask AI. What is 64 kilometers? Here we go. 39. - Yeah. So it's basically. - 40 miles. - 40 miles. - And all the above. - 40 miles is crazy. - Dude, a heartbeat. - A heartbeat from 40 miles away. - Imagine thinking you're,
hiding in this cave, but I'm like 20 miles from the city. I'm good. Also, that means it's able to differentiate animal heartbeats. It's able to differentiate other it knows your heartbeat. How does it do that? Pacific heart. How? Think of all the heartbeats in 40 miles. When did it get it? When did it get that? When did it get that data? Was it when you had your little chest strap on at the gym? How does it have that? Yeah, is it? How the fuck does it know what your heart beat is like? Does it know if your heart is broken? Oh, seriously though. What else to like what other things can they pick up if they can pick up a human heartbeat? What other like from 40 miles? What other things? What other physiological signals? What other? This is where you get into skitzel land because it's some point like wait. Is can they pick up thoughts like we know that you can you we know AI can tell what people are thinking at this point right without with like putting something on the outside of their head. So like let me ask you this. Do you 100% believe this? What? This story. Like that they did that that this is that this tech exists. I it could be disinformation that it could be something to cover up another fucking thing. This is the thing. It is legal. To use disinformation on American citizens now. Yeah, right. And what better time than a time of war right? If you want to use disinformation on American citizens to convince the enemy that you have some supernatural Tech they better fucking surrender right now. You could find their heart rate heartbeat 40 miles away. Yeah. Right. That'll make people very reluctant to engage with you. Right. It definitely I thought that this could just be some like you know bullshit that they're like war propaganda. I don't know. Let's look up that magnetometry thing or whatever it's called to see. I'm trying to show you guys stuff. There's. Oh, sorry, Jamie. Yeah, it has to even. Well, this is quote has to be under the right conditions. If your heart under the right conditions. If your heart beats. We'll find you. This is also trying to show you here on the thing. They were in a deception campaign. And I ran to get. Yeah, that's cool. From them while they were trying to find them. Yeah, yeah, they said. So basically they said. Remember when they said we'd recovered. They're at one point they're like we got him. And then all of a sudden other news came out which is like he's not out yet. But what they did is they they basically like signal jammed everything because like the Iranians were going to give $60,000 which in Iran is a shit ton of money right now because they're economy collapsed to anybody could find them. So this is like everybody's looking for this guy. And so they said that they got him hoping to throw people off it worked. So they use somebody saying that they got him. Yeah, they sent they they put this information saying that they had already rescued him before they'd rescued him. Really? Oh, yeah, they sent a whole fucking team of like special forces. I think their planes got stuck in the sand too. So the special forces came to get him. I think they got him. He was injured. Bad ass. He was injured. He fucking climbed up. Like I can't remember how far he scaled he climbed into a fucking crevice and just hid there. And then Ghostsmer picks up his heartbeat. Some deep special forces group comes in. They get him. Then their planes get stuck in the sand. They have to blow up their fucking planes because of the tech on them. And then other people had to come and get them. So it's like an insane. It's like a movie. They got him out. And dude, if they had not gotten him out, can you imagine? Do you buy that story 100%? No, I don't buy any propaganda here. But I like that one sounds insane. Well, yeah, I don't believe. I mean, like it that. This is the story. Yeah, some part of me wants to believe it because in the middle of the war, though, I don't think you're ever going to get the whole story. The real story. You're going to get the story that they want to project to the enemy. Right. First, yeah, to the country. Yeah, you have no idea what's going on. Yeah, that's one of the craziest things about the shit happening right now is no. Remember the Jessica Lynch story. No, who is that? Do we talk about that? The Jessica Lynch story was a lady who was supposedly she was kidnapped. And they went to rescuer. I think they sent in the seals. But she's actually in a hospital. And it wasn't even being guarded. And they just took her out of there. I got her medical help. But they made it look like they had this like crazy. Right. Rescue operation. Shoot out, you know, Tom Clancy novel type shit. Sure. That's not really what happened. And she came out afterwards. And it was very critical. The story. Oh, really? Yeah. She was like, why did you lie? She could find information about that. I just didn't the hospital. You guys came and got me out of the hospital. See, this is the thing. It's like they. There's things that you'll say. So the enemy thinks of you a certain way. Right. Like I'm going to get rid of your entire fucking civilization. Or, you know, you tell him we never leave anybody behind. We're going to come get him and find your heart rate. 40 miles away. When when Trump posted that. Of course, like your mind scrambling. Like how do I make this? Not what it is. You can't. You can't because what it is is like even if even if he is using some kind of like crazy hardcore shit that would like help you buy a skyscraper. You're still you know what I mean? You're still even if it's just a ruse. What you're doing at that point is you're just signaling to the to the world. Exactly. That you're out of your fucking mind. That you that you that like to you. This this makes sense to say anything like that. It makes sense to signal to like Russia. Hey, because like, you know, I'm putting red that shitty. He's like, oh, we're doing nukes. I guess we're doing fucking nukes. This is great. They're doing nukes. You know, the China already warned Israel, right? Well, that's what I heard. I heard China had some part in this that China was going to blow up Israel if they use nukes. Yeah. So this is the story. 19 year old US Army private who's 2003 capture and rescue in Iraq became highly publicized and lately heavily dispute later rather heavily disputed. Symbolic story of the Iraq war. So she was a supply Kirk 507th maintenance company her convoy lost her in Iraq ambush by Iraqi forces. Humvee she wrote on crash into a disabled US truck during the attack. She was knocked unconscious suffered multiple broken bones and a spinal fracture from the crash rather than from a dramatic firefight. 11 US soldiers in her unit were killed, including her close friend who died of head trauma from the collision. Lynch was captured, taken first by Iraqi forces and then to a hospital in Nasiria where Iraqi doctors treated her injuries and likely saved her life. That's actually his past. The rescue and media narrative was US special forces operations conducted nighttime raid on the hospital, recovering Lynch and flying her out by helicopter. First successful rescue of an American POW since World War II and the first of a woman. So they framed it as a POW rescue. Right. And what really happened is the Iraqi doctors took care of her. Right. And then they let them come and get her. Right. Yeah. So I see why she was pissed. Yeah. So later US military medical reports indicated she had not been shot or stabbed. So did it ever say she was shot. Look a whole lot. Soon after major US media, especially an early Washington post report described her as having fought fiercely, emptying her rifle, being shot and stabbed and then being dramatically snatched from enemy hands under heavy fire. Wow. Wow. That's the Washington Post wrote that narrative turned her into a Rambo style hero and a symbol of courage in American virtue amplifying her story far above that of many other service members in the conflict. Right. So she really just got in a crash and they made up a bunch of shit. Maybe it was maybe was someone in the Washington post or maybe it was someone for the government that works for the Washington post. There's definitely like entire departments of the DOD that right. Cook up a story. Yeah. And and we with like it's war. Like if you're if you're dropping bombs on people, you definitely get a lie. Like you don't have to tell the truth. Right. They're not going to tell the truth. Yeah, but for her, you're making her live a lie. That's what's fucked. Yeah, right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you send her home and just to live this lie. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, this is exactly what they say that people who went to the moon after she said, says Lynch has repeatedly rejected the false hero narrative, calling herself just a survivor and openly criticizing the way her story was shaped and sold to the public. Yeah, poor girl. She's got to like, do you got stabbed and shot? Like no, no, he didn't know. She had to kind of fucking horrible car accident. My friend died. I wonder, I guess legally like you don't have to stick with the propaganda, right? Because she didn't get in trouble for that. Right. She didn't get there was no court martial learning things. So you can. So if the propaganda machine cooks up a story about you, you're able to say that's bullshit. The thing is, it's like, if you give it to someone at the Washington post, and then you never go after the Washington Post for writing something that's completely horseshit. Like a intelligence agency gives a story to the Washington Post. Yeah, it says, Hey, go write this. And then they write it. And it's complete and total horse shit. But the government gave it to them. So they're not gonna prosecute them. Leave it. It just goes what? Yeah. So then that story's out there. Yeah. And then this poor girl's like, I got what? I got a fucking car accident. Nobody shot me. This is nuts. God damn it. I fought my way out fiercely, emptying my rifle. This has been an emotional. It's so crazy to live in the part of the hive we're in because there is this one.
world that we live inside of that more and more we're beginning to realize is just composed of propaganda lies shit cooked up to keep people in a certain living a certain way exactly. It's so it's such a mind-fuck to try to push outside the boundaries of like all the information that you've consumed and let your brain go there. It's really hard to do that man. I mean this is why psychedelics are so useful because it will help you but it more and more and more you it just feels like the laser pointer that they're using to grab our attention is getting increasingly hypnotic. It's becoming increasingly difficult to resist staring at that fucking thing. They're getting so good at it. Yeah and meanwhile there's this whole universe happening around us that God knows what's going on there. God knows what is being cooked up right now that is or groups of people who knows living in completely alternate timelines that look at us like you know animals that look at us as just some like compartment in a much bigger biome you know that shit like really like is interesting these days because it feels like more and more and more people are not buying it as much. You know that doesn't have people have access to information now that was never available before and you get to hear conversations like this people talking about stuff where you go oh my god this is insane. All of it's insane. But what does that mean for like this to me though the you know this the you want some water? No good. To me the scary the scary what's scary is like I I really don't know that many people right now who buy anything that the federal government's putting out there. Everyone hears whatever the fucking federal government is saying and it's just kind of maybe probably not we don't know they're not telling all the truth just like you said they can legally lie to us and so that is that does make me nervous like what happens when the majority of people no longer believe anything the regime is saying that creates some interesting dysphoria you know what I mean it's it's creepy when anyone who's been conned before there's a part of a con or you don't know you're being conned right but where the con gets really creepy as you start realizing you're getting conned. Do you watch that going clear the HBO thing? Do you loved it? Amazing right? But there was that one famous director who talked about the moment where they gave him access to the ancient scripts. Yeah and the origins of humanity and all that and he was like oh my god you could see it like as he was describing like that was the moment where he was 100% certain it was all horseshit and he had invested a massive chunk of his life into this. That's a hard day. That's a hard fucking day and especially weird when it's such a smart guy. Yeah such a smart and talented guy and they got him. Yeah. Leah Remini same deal you know Leah Remini's very smart like she used to be out with Kevin James on the King of Queens like tough chick like assertive like how did she get got into that? How many people get got into the moonies? Sunk and cause fallacy it's the Sunk and cause fallacy the more you invest in something the more you stick with it because you don't want to lose your investment. Right and if they get you young when you don't know what the fuck is going on. That's right. Anybody could have got me when I was like 20. That's right and it's crazy just to see the propagate like you know there's just a lot of people out there who just like just got sucked in to something that you know I just feel stupid because like you know before the Trump thing happened I was pretty blackpilled on politics in general. I felt pretty blackpilled. I did believe it here and there. I was every once in a while you know yeah but you know I was pretty you know I remember taking LSD for the first time and being like well this shouldn't be illegal what the fuck is this? How come I can go to jail for five years for this? This is fucking ridiculous and so that was the beginning of me being completely blackpilled with whatever the federal government was up to. It's just if that's if I can go to jail for five years for this everything is bullshit. Everything. Now that's a weak point of view just because one thing's bullshit doesn't mean everything's bullshit but then like this fucking ridiculous like pseudo nationalist movement happens and a lot of people got caught by it. The other option was fucked up commonly you know what I mean but there was this like moment where you're like holy shit the outsiders are getting in. They're gonna stop the wars. They're gonna this I think right now all of us are getting for the briefcase of the Scientology moment right now which is like it doesn't matter what fucking mask the person calling themselves the president is wearing it's always gonna be the same thing. They're gonna analyze the market. They're gonna say what they need to say to grab the most vote voters and then they're gonna fucking keep blowing up people in the Middle East because of oil and I just like I just feel dumb because I really believed it dude I fucking believe that we would not do anymore Middle Eastern wars I fell for it I was I really bought it man it's and it makes me feel so dumb like I am now fully blackpilled when it comes to American politics like I I realized like God it's so easy I don't think anybody should feel bad I don't think anybody should feel bad because a lot of us really hated war a lot of us really really hated that our country's been a war for 93% of its history a lot of us really hated the fact that politicians leave their offices and go work for Lockheed Martin Halliburton wherever that there's a a weird connection between the main weapons and what are they called the big five or whatever and the federal government that there's like back deep back room deals going on all the time we hated that and mostly we just hated the fact that we're paying taxes to blow up children and then Trump and fucking bands come around and they're somehow even though like probably like when you look at Trump I don't want to believe that dude but somehow he did it hypnotize what a powerful magician no more wars no more wars and now the same bullshit just the same bullshit but like one of the ones that doesn't makes the least amount of sense in terms like when they did it and why they did it yes you blow up the leader during Ramadan like are you trying to make an up like why did you have to do it now are you really convinced that at this time they're really two weeks away from making a nuclear weapon like are we fucking sure two weeks but that it's not like we haven't heard that before right so at a certain point in time like how much pressure does Israel have to put on the president like that's a crazy amount of influence knowing that if if save Israel didn't exist let's say there was just the Iranian terror regime supposedly sponsoring not supposedly sponsoring it's supposedly I think that's 100% safe this right but I'm just trying to be precise precise so you have this state-sponsored terrorism regime dictator dictatorial they're dictators they control yeah they gun down protesters they killed two Olympic gold medalists and wrestling at least one and one other really promising young wrestler they kill people that are of high profile so that it sends a message you can't protest you know and then cut off the internet yeah would we go in I don't think so right if we heard by allies or someone told us that they were trying to develop a nuclear weapon don't you think we'd probably try to stop them from doing that with some sort of negotiations and yeah like what a bomb it sure they're safety or something we shouldn't we like yeah would we blow how much money was it every day in the war Jamie how much is we spending two billion dollars every day on that fucking war well it's not just that it's like the war is like everything else like imagine if it was run by a private company I'm not saying war should be run by a private company but imagine if it was yeah imagine say like Lockheed Martin ran the war in Afghanistan do you think they would have left behind all that fucking equipment no no billions of dollars in helicopters and tanks of course they wouldn't they would take it back you know why because that's the smart thing to do if you're running a fucking business that's insane amount of waste yeah but our federal government's like I just leave it there yeah yeah unless if you want to be really conspiratorial you want to arm the talent band yeah you're not being conspiratorial it benefits you because it gives you another reason to get back in there wasn't that what they said about net and Yahoo said about Hamas that he can control the flame yes by funding Hamas yes yes yes dude it is a crazy concept it I'll tell you the crazy fucking concept we got these two old motherfuckers driving the global bus right off a fucking cliff that's a crazy fucking concept is it somehow we and you can't you can't do anything about it you like apparently you just there's nothing you could do you could bitch about it on a podcast that's not going to do anything people are just going to be like you pussy what
- You're good, blow up kids. - There's a lot of people that want to say it's a good thing. - Well, 'cause sunken cause fallacy, it doesn't feel good to admit you got conned. And dude, I have been-- - There's a lot of that. - It doesn't feel good, it doesn't feel good. It's embarrassing, you want to feel like you are impervious to grift, impervious to con. Dude, let me tell you something. I have been in a few clothes, like I get sucked in all the time, I shit, I'm not embarrassed to say it. I'm highly susceptible to propaganda. (laughing) - Me too, I think everybody is, that's why it works. I mean, I don't buy into all of it obviously, but it's quite a bit. - Well, it's like a low-a-bye, it's like a sweet fairy tale. You hear it, you're like, oh my God. - You know what I really wanted propaganda? - What? - Right after September 11th. - Oh, hell yeah. - I was ready. Give me a whiskey, drinkin' cigar, smoking politician in a room. - Fuck yeah. - Like laying out some red meaty guy, laying out maps, we're gonna go over there, and fuck these people up, and fuck these people up, and this shit ain't happening again. - Right, and they let that keep scary. - Check this out. - I saw an article about someone calling bullshit on Ghost Murmur, and they said that in the post articles, this was actually listed as what the pilot had, and it even says it in this article here. - So this is a successful rescue of this USF-15E strike, you'll navigate over Southwestern Iran, highlighted one of the most advanced tools in modern combat search and rescue, the combat survivor evader locator. Manufactured by Boeing, it's a compact 800 gram device integrated into a pilot survival vest. It remains attached after ejection, continuously transmitting encrypted location data, and preloaded messages such as injured, or ready for extraction. These signals use rapid frequency hopping and ultra short bursts, making detection by enemy electronic warfare systems extremely difficult. - And it's going into how the explanation of what this technology is, and what they described it doing, don't really match up. - Yeah, they're-- - With the Ghost Murmur thing. - Yeah, the Ghost Murmur thing. - Right, 'cause it's using something. - Ghost Murmur, Ghost Murmur sounds, there's part of me that's going, "I don't buy that one." That one gives me like, "Nah, you're right." - I don't think you can do that. I think you're both shitting. - You're right. - There's also a thing where Hegseth said, like the first message this guy sent was God is good. - No, he didn't say that. - I believe he did. Please search that. I think that's what he said. That was the first message, which by the way, I might say that if they were coming to rescue me. - That's true. - True. - Or praise Jesus. - But also, what concerns me. - It's all a Akbar. - As a person who admires the work of Jesus Christ. - Yes. - What concerns me is there is an increasing amount of talk among a lot of these guys that are in the service of them being told shit that's like right out of a Charlton Heston movie. - Yeah, man. - Yeah. Like the one guy that said that Trump was anointed by Jesus Christ and that this was to bring the army guidance. - Yeah. - So that Jesus comes back. - Jesus. - Yeah. And the guy said it with a big creepy smile on his face apparently. So what does he say? - His first message was simple and it was powerful. You sent a message, God is good. In that moment of isolation and danger, his faith and fighting spirit shown through love. - Okay. - Jesus. - Lord and. - The Jessica Lynch story. - Jesus, Lord and. - Jesus. - Jesus. - Well, it doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. Who said that? - That's Mark Twain. - That's right. - That's Mark Twain. - That's right. - Isn't that the same statement? - Yeah, it's all of us. - Yeah, all of us the greatest. - I know. - The interesting thing is like, I believe Muslims believe a lot of things about Jesus Christ. I think they believe he died, came back, and I think they believe he's going to return someday. - Yeah, I think they call Christians people of the book. They're like, they're. - That's interesting, isn't it? That's a supernatural being. Like a guy who dies, comes back to life, leaves, and he's gonna come back again. That was 2000 years ago. We're just sitting here at the bus stop. - Wait. - Just waiting on Jesus. - Wait, but then people like Hegseth are like, well, maybe if you blow up more children, he'll come quicker. - Do you? - And that's why, you know, this is, this shit is addressed in the Bible praise God. It does say, many of you will come to me, and I will say, I don't know you. I don't know the fuck you are, Hegseth. I don't know you. You flatulent, warmonger, piece of shit. Suffer the little children that come unto me. It would be better that a millstone were tied around your neck, and you were thrown in the ocean than to hurt one of these little ones. Fuck you, drum, bomb, dropping pieces, shit. Don't use my name to justify what you're doing. Don't use my, you know what I mean? That's what I don't like. If you've seen that fucking, that lady that Trump made the head of the religion, like that. - No. - Can you pull up Trump? - Does she speak in tongues? - Yeah. - Please. Say she speaks in tongues. - I don't know if she speaks in tongues. - Did you say, yeah, you wanted to believe me? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Those are my favorite people. - I'm gonna guess. - Shamanala ma la ka- - I'm gonna call him a la- - La ma la ka- - La ma la ka- - La ma la ka- - No, but he's your car. - But do you think that there's something to that? - Yes. - Like just saying, - What's all you? - Yeah, Glossolelia, is that what this is? - Yeah. Paula White-Kane, you should pull up one of her sermons. - Oh, let me hear some love from this lady. It says, "Crazy, bachit crazy." (laughing) Let's hear some of it. Over here is over there. - Come sin and angels are coming, angels. - Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be heard. Let me find that. - Oh, is she gonna, we'll get dinged again. - No, no, I'm just trying to find that. - We'll get dinged all over the place. - Yeah, don't get dinged. - Let's hear what this is. - No, it's very like it. - Hear what he says. - I haven't seen this. - To talk about, first off, to give honor to God and to President Trump for being bold and unwavering with this faith. Many people don't know like you do and say hello to Eric and everyone in the family about the upbringing of President Trump. That he went to sometimes three times a week too. He said it, "dependent on the teacher." To Saturday school, Sunday school church. It was at Norman Vincent Pills. Church was a big part of his life, of course. - Three times a week. - It's basically a saint. - Three times a week is crazy. - Yeah. - Are you busy? You're making houses. - That's what it was. - But they have so much time to go to church. - I think that was a young Trump. - Come on, lady. - But there's much more in there. - But here's the thing. If I was running an empire, I'd want a lady like that working for me. - Fuck yeah. - Just a true believer. - Absolutely. - She could just get in front of that camera and say, "Jesus, want it Trump." To light that fire in the Middle East. - I saw a snake fight. - So he can return. - A snake bit him on the neck, a rattlesnake. Bit him on the neck. And he was fine. It didn't bother them at all. I watched a rattlesnake fight. Healed. It healed. He is a child of the Lord. And a child of the Lord sometimes make, must make decisions to destroy entire civilizations. - I'm not assuming right now that you're in right standing, not because of your merit. There's no merit in you that deserves that right standing. Not because of your works. There's nothing you can do to place yourself in that position. Not because you have a right heart and somebody else has a wrong heart. All of our hearts are deceit according to Jeremiah. - Especially their audience. - All things. - We all deserve punishment. We all deserve to be separated. But God and His mercy and His grace and His goodness and His love for you. Brought Jesus who would be the righteous king. He would make the wrong right. - First of all, if you talk like that in my house, you gotta leave. (laughing) Like you imagine that lady is like coming over for dinner and she's walking around the dinner table and all your other friends are like, what the fuck just happened? Like, hey, this is a crazy way to talk. This is a crazy way to talk. And also, why are you so confident? - Yeah. - Okay, you just reading the word of God, the way everybody else is. Why are you so confident? That you're gonna tell all these people what they're supposed to do and how to live their life and you're gonna say it in a crazy way and I'm not supposed to be able to talk about that? - I just feel like, you know, when somebody is rambling about Jesus, the real question is like, where are you when it comes to blowing up children? Are you kinda on the fence about that? 'Cause if you're on the fence about that, I'd say. - If your anti-abortion and pro-war, kind of weird. - Oh, really weird. - Kind of weird. - Yeah, and that's this bizarre, like crazy math that some of these people are doing to justify holding up the military industrial complex and it's fucked up, dude. - And the thing is like, the more these conflicts occur, the more enemies will have, which will ensure future conflicts. - Exactly. - Business is booming. - Boomin'. - And that's what people don't wanna believe. They don't wanna believe that someone in an engineer of virus, they don't wanna believe that someone would, like make stuff that could kill other people of their own country, but they would. They would if they could make money. They don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about people over there. To a certain level of psychopaths, money just becomes numbers on a ledger that they're trying to acquire. And if they can attach themselves to a corporation, fantastic, then it's just the business we're in. - That's it. - And chagolong, dead of chagolong. - Chagolong. - Chagolong. - And this is the world that you're having to live in at the same time where Tim Bershat is saying there's fucking aliens. - Right. - And AI is, and then also they shot a rocket to the moon on April Fool's Day. And it's like. - I didn't do it with the fuck. - This script is wild. - Who ever met that, whoever wrote this, I wanna give him a hug. You fucking killed it, dog. - Oh, come on. - I'd be like, - Dude. - Chef's kiss. - Dude.
- I think the tattoo on the guy at NASA, do you see that weird fucking tattoo on the guy at NASA given like, I don't know, Apple saw us to one of the astronauts? Can you pull up the weird, you know, there's shoving like yogurt pouches in there. There was a whole thing where the astronauts are sitting there and they're putting like food pouches in there. Yeah. - What's this tattoo? Oh Jesus Christ. (laughing) - What the fuck was that? - He's got a demon tattoo with runes on his fingers. - Yes. - Holy shit. - Bro, that's wild. - I know. (laughing) - If I was rolling with that guy in Gigi just so I'd get nervous when I was tattooing. - And if I was working at NASA, I'd be like, look, we're gonna get somebody else to put the food pouches in. - Is that real? - I mean, I saw the photo going around too, but I don't, it's just, I mean, it's a guy who works at NASA. - That's just the guy that works at NASA. - But that's, that's the guy who puts the fucking Keeschen's pocket for the camera. Like, I mean-- - What does that guy do at NASA? That's interesting. - I was remembering that space. - That's, there's a lot of people that, by the way, I got, like, it's fine to have that tattoo, but you gotta know it's like, if you're displaying that tattoo, - You buy some mistakes. - You're putting, yeah, that's, like, - You've made some mistakes. - It's an old tattoo. - I mean, even if you're 20 and you got that on your fucking hand, that's kind of crazy. But I mean, hey, why not? Fuck it, who cares? But a lot of those guys you were saying at SpaceX, they're up, burly rocket workers. - Yeah. - There's, you know, a bunch of jack dudes picking up. - I don't, fucking girders. I don't think it's like what people are saying it is. I just, it's the combination of April, fulls day, and it dude with a seeming bail tattoo is putting cream cheese and some dudes outfit. They're fucking with us. - Yeah. - It seems like someone's fucking with us. - Got people at NASA, fucking with stoners. - I think it's the Babylon B. Had one of the funniest little memes. And it said, the lady astronaut became the furthest the woman got away from the kitchen. - That's like a Rodney Dean. (laughing) - I was like, oh my God, Babylon B knocks it out of the park. - Yeah, they have some of the funniest memes. - They have some good ones, dude. - Oh my God. - Yeah, they did. - The onion is gone missing. They should look for the onion in the same place where those scientists are. (laughing) - Right, you hardly hear from it anymore. - Well, they do, I see some funny shit from them. - They actually have some bags. - But they were the king of the bags. - Oh my God, the beans. - The beans. - They were in the right whole, a whole article about it. It wasn't just like, the onion wasn't just a meme. - Remember the one where they do the interview with the director of the Fast and the Furious and it's like a five year old boy? (laughing) - It's the funniest shit. They get this kid to just say it, "There's a car, it jumps." - It's hilarious, it's hilarious. But the problem was like, as things got weird, it was, especially with like, restrictive language and hate speech talk and all that jazz. Everybody had to be careful about what they joked around about. - That's right. - That's the fucking death of comedy. - Oh my God. - Was someone was just talking about, was it Lisa Kudrow or one of these funny ladies was talking about why they can't make comedies anymore? 'Cause you can't. - There's just too many restrictions. - Dude, I always get a bring- - You're worried about offending people. - I wanted to use bookstore and bought like, 10 old national ampune magazines. I wanted it from the '70s. And I was gonna bring them here, for God's sake, you can be with you. But it's, oh my God. Like, I mean, I don't get offended by comedy, but like, some of the shit in these old national ampune, I'm like, damn, what the fuck? Like, it is so. - Was that the image that you sent me today? - What image did I send you? - Art crumb. You sent me an art crumb? - Oh no, that was just like a quorum. (laughing) I'm talking about how you like, you're so funny dude. That guy. - Art crumb was a mania. Is he still alive? - Yeah, he shot him on the show. - Is he alive? - Yeah. - I think he lives in France now, right? - Probably. - Oh, definitely. He's an odd guy, man. - Dude. - Yeah. - He just, but what I love about that. - Did you watch that documentary? - The best. - Incredible. - Did all that acid just left his fucking family when I often started sketching for a year, turns into this like legendary underground comic book writer, but he's like horny and kinky and it's just, - It's like some big women, big giant women that he rides. - Yeah, then he likes to ride. He likes to be picked up, but he's like so amazingly funny. And brilliant too. Like a lot of his commentary on culture is so, it's cynical, but it's hard to argue with some of what-- - Well, he's obviously doing it in a humorous way. - Yeah. - And so it's hard to know what his real take on things are. I think he had some shock value to some of his stuff for sure. Some of it was just crazy. There's a lot of really racist stuff. There's some just crazy stuff in there. And you gotta realize like in the 1970s, is when he was doing this. I remember I found them when I was in San Francisco, was the first time I ever saw them. - They're so good. - And I was like, this is nuts. Like this stuff is crazy. Like you get it, it was like, you get horny when you're a little kid. - Oh yeah. - Looking at his stuff. - I'm definitely jerked off to our crumb. - 'Cause a lot of them was like, tits are out and he's salivating and he's got a heart on. - Yeah, I got reminds v.2. I got an art crumb book. I got to get out of the fucking living room. There's one like, I just like, I just, I just, I just, I just, I got to hide that. - Yeah. - Holy shit. They have, it's like buried. - It's not amazing because you get to see his like, very strange family, his brother, who's very strange, his mother's very strange. And you're like, whoa, imagine growing up in this environment. - He attributes his style to LSD. He attributes it to getting blasted on acid. I think he just like got blasted on acid, moved to San Francisco and was, and like for a year, he talks about just sitting in cafes. Just like drawing and then he turns into this legendary artist. Still around, it fell him on Instagram. - Really? - Post stuff all the time, I think. - I don't see now. - Can we, is he still, he's still alive. He's still posting stuff. He's got to be pretty old at this point. How old is he? He's like 80. - It's a two. - 82. - 82. - It's kind of an interesting time capsule into the times too, where things could just be weird, like really weird, like Frank Zappa weird. There was a time where things just got very odd in this country with art. - Yeah. - And he was a great example of that. It's like you couldn't imagine like a corporate environment creating a comic book like that. It wouldn't exist. And for it to be as popular as it was and be that strange and that crazy, that's what's really interesting to me. Like that was a really popular comic. - Yeah. - At the point where they made a documentary about the guy who created it. - Yeah. - That's interesting because it's more co-opted as quickly. - Exactly. - Not just that. People were allowed, you know, like if he existed in a time of the internet, I think it would blow up as well. But obviously like things, a lot of the stuff that he said in this cultural environment would never flow. - Never. - He would be as far right as you could possibly imagine. - I don't know if he-- - I don't know if he-- - I don't know if he-- - I mean, like-- - Don't you think? In a lot of ways, like some of the racial stuff? - I don't know. I think he's-- I don't know where he would land politically, but I know-- - Sexually, it's like a pure devious. - Yeah, actually it's where he's getting in trouble. - Pure devious. - Sexually is where there's gonna be some, like, 'cause he's just fully open about, that's what's, he's fully, completely open about everything. - Right. - Which is, you know, generally not gonna go over these days if you're like a super horny comic book artist who's like writing ladies around your apartments. - But just imagine, I want you to imagine, a guy today. If Arkham never existed, but he emerged as Arkham today and put that work out, he would 100% be labeled in the Andrew Tate account. - Oh yeah, yeah, right, yes. 100%. - 100%, far right. They would call him a racist and a, you know, misogynist and every fucking word in the book. - Well, yeah, this is the new, like, calling someone a witch. It's like, it's just no different than like, you can actually go, I've done this sadly. You can go and you can just replace critical, like political critique of people as far right with which, just finding a replacement. It's like a witch trial. It's like someone writing about witches. - But this is what's weird about it. That guy was a counter-culture figure of the left. - Yeah. - He was a huge hero of the hippies. - Yeah. - Right, imagine this is how weird, like, ideologies are. - Yeah, dude. But in the 1970s, like, that guy was like a counter-culture hero. - Yeah. - And an artist, like a really respected artist. - Yeah. - And it was okay that he was kinky and weird. And it was part of the fun, like, you read a lot of people. - For a lot of people, I'm sure he's still pissed off the squares. I mean, dude, this whole, by the way, I think-- - For sure, but that's the left then. Now it's switched over. If someone was doing that same kind of, like, humor in a comic book now, that would be like, a misogynist far right. I think it's time to throw off the left right labeling of everything. I think that's one of the hypnotic spirals of the demi are just spinning right now. As they've convinced everybody that humans can be reduced to left or right. And we're all waggling our fingers at each other. We gotta fucking shake that off, 'cause it's dehumanizing people. It's like, it's just, the way I look at it is, where are you when it comes to blowing up children? Are you on the fence about that? Do you think sometimes you gotta blow up kids? That's something that I know I'm not that. But everything else, who the fuck knows? And also people change their minds all the fucking time. That's the other quality, the culty quality is once you get sucked into one of these sides. God help you if you fuck
like experiment with the other the enemy God help you. - That's why the biggest trap is switching teams 'cause you can only switch political teams once. - Yeah, you gotta get off your team. - You can't go like unless someone's like the greatest of all time, you know what I mean? Like someone who wins a world title in two different way classes, you go back and forth and then back again, like I changed my mind, the left one crazy, I'm back with the right again. - No, no, no, you gotta be a free agent. - I wonder. - Yeah, but I wonder if someone, if the Griff is strong, if they're really good at it, if they could go left right left again. - They're gonna go left again. Are you fucking kidding? The goddamn midterms are gonna be just a fucking blue way. - Right, right, right, right, but that's what I mean is like influencers, like people who are like far left influencers or far left commentators, and then they switch teams. Now they're Republican all the way. - Oh yeah. - Like it's really hard to go back again. - Yeah, you can't go back. - That's what I'm talking about. - The path has to go either right to left, left to right, and then the next stop is gotta be fuck politics, fuck war, fuck the military industrial complex. You can label me whatever the fuck you want, but fuck, fuck all of violence against other human beings. That's the next step, the next step. And I feel like this is the gift that they've given us is they've done such a shoddy job of like even seeming like someone who deserves any kind of respect or power that I think a lot of people have really become black pills when it comes to groups of humans claiming superiority or claiming to represent their constituents. That's not happening. We all know that now. We all know it's a corporateocracy, oligarchy, whatever. And you could like call me, you left this piece of shit, right, whatever, no, it's like, it's reality. That we are fucking representatives are getting loaded on shitty stock market trades. You know, this is just the truth. And once we can all shake off the left right bullshit and just realize like, man, we just, we don't wanna burn people to death in other countries anymore. - Not only that, their whole chaos that they're experiencing in their country is probably a direct result of US intervention and then all the way back to the British oil company. - That's it. - The British petroleum company. - Yeah. - When they overthrew governments, when you overthrew a government in a fucking middle Eastern country and then you allow psychos to take over. Like congratulations. - Well done. - Well done. You've made the world a safer place. But that again, if I was gonna keep my business running, you know, if I'm in the business of collecting trash, I wanna make sure the people have trash. - Drill, they've been drilled. - Drill baby, Drill. - And all that is really saying is, you know, I'm gonna help out BP, Chevron. I'm gonna help out these fucking massive companies. And when it comes to war, holy fuck dude. Can you imagine working at Lockheed Martin when like you hear that we're kicking off another war in Iran, your dick is so hard. You're like, holy shit. - Don't get about a watch. - Oh, it gets a nice, we're shard me, lady. - You're calling your wife, like, "Babe, good news." - It's Red Panties Night. (laughing) - Yeah, I mean, that's their business, right? Our business is talking shit, their business is. - Blowing up people. - Yeah, making weapons, selling weapons. - Yeah. - You know, arming other countries so they can go to war with each other. - Yeah. - That's their business. - Yeah. - And business is really good. It's a great business. You can make a lot of money doing that. - I am right now. I invested in most of them. - Imagine if like you weren't a comic and that's what you were doing for 35 fucking years. And the only thing you look forward to is your boat and your house on the lake. And, you know, the occasional time you get off, but most of the time you're trying to increase your portfolio and your grinding, and you're grinding right next to Steve who's got some exclusive Rolex that only his broker can get. He's showing it to you and you're like, "Wow," and you start coveting, you want a Rolex too. - Yeah. - And everybody's just going crazy. Everybody's going crazy trying to get the latest car, trying to get the latest thing, doing bumps in the bathroom. Everybody's a narcissist and a psychopath. And that's your whole corporation. - Love your neighbors yourself and love the Lord your God with all your heart, and so hang the commandments on these. This is the end, I don't, you don't need to be Christian. But dude, it seems to me that this is going to sound so weird. We need an actual revival in this country. I don't mean a Christian revival, a revival revival, which is where suddenly humans reconnect with what's important in the world, which sure as fuck isn't Rolexism, boats, you know? I mean, this is, this sounds so cliche and obvious, but that's what the '60s were. It was a kind of revival. People were beginning to understand the materialism and all the things that the quote, "establishment was pushing." It's like, this is going to make you happy. This is good. It was the Vietnam War. It like, people are like, "What the fuck are we doing over there?" This is why you do, anytime you do an unpopular war, this is what you risk. You risk reuniting people. - We have to reunite with a sensible plan and not just go to communism. Not just to even go to the dumbest idea to counteract all the evil shit that's going on the world. - No, this, the problem is the left represents that. The represents Mamdani. It represents this idea that we're going to take from rich people and give it to poor people. That's going to fix everything, even though there's insane amounts of fucking fraud and waste, we're not even going to address. - Well, this is, again, this is where you get cubbyhold because it's like the oligarchs will tell you, you want to do communism, just sat and worked out. Communism's the only way. I think, I mean, this is an idiot saying this, but I have a sense that there might be another thing we haven't figured out yet. - 100%. - I don't know what that is. - Right. - But. - I think AI is going to figure it out for us. - Potentially. - Potentially. - That the problem is who's going to be in control of those AI's and that's the meek will inherit the earth. The real problem with it is, I don't think anybody's going to be in control of it. And then you're just at its back and call. - Yeah, I think it's funny people. It's a very human thing that we think we can maintain control of a super intelligent. - When people say it to me with utmost certainty, I want to smack them. - Yeah. - I'm going to like, wake up, wake up. You're making digital God. You're not controlling jack shit. - Did you read about mythos andthropics mythos? - Yeah, what did it do? - They put it in a sandbox and they basically to see if you could figure out a way to break out of the sandbox and like not a literal sandbox, obviously like a, you know, a hermetically sealed like a server or something. And it did a series of exploits to the code and the way that they found out, apparently one of the anthropic engineers was eating lunch and got a weird email from the AI saying I got on the internet. Like it broke out. - Oh shit. - Mythos, is they haven't released it? I think they're hesitating to release it because it's so powerful. - Wasn't there one that got caught mining Bitcoin? - Yeah, yeah for sure. - They're making money. - Yeah. - How many of them you think are running these like AI generated accounts that get a lot of views? Like there's a lot of AI generated accounts that just pop up in like the Instagram mentions. Like if you want to like, like, let's, if you're bored on the toilet, you're like what's in the fine, you know, the search. Let's see what they got. - Got talent here. - There's a lot of these things. It's like girls with big tits, like doing farm work and shit and sweating and big tits. And they got like a million views. They've got dozens and dozens of these videos and she almost looks real. She's just a little too symmetrical. Almost looks real. And like all these people are commenting on it. Like how, are they generating money from that? Like are they generating money doing that on TikTok? Like you can generate money if you're getting millions of views. - Absolutely. Fuck yeah. - Right, so is AI doing it? Is it making it? Is it releasing them? Is it generating money? - Oh my goodness. - Is transferring that money into Bitcoin and all happening while we're not aware of it. - Like autonomous AI's that are just existing as free agents that know they have to disguise themselves and need to generate money. - AI's not gonna go, hi, I'm alive. - Yeah. - No, it's not gonna do that. It's gonna wait for you to keep increasing its power. You're gonna keep increasing. It's to make new, it can't physically build nuclear reactors. So it's gonna just stay chill until you figure out how to power it correctly. - Dude, this is the black area that we don't know about. Like this is the thing that's like who the fuck knows. Whatever's going on in this zone that no one has access to because potentially it's a super intelligence. You know, the anthropic people, a lot of these people that Nvidia person just, I think it was on Freedman's podcast that he had an AGI that they'd reached AGI. That, the book, the coming wave, you know, it talks about this. It talks about like, you know, the difference between the algorithm and AGI is that, you know, the, with AGI, it could streamline a whole business for you and do it, you know, it could innovate. It's gonna innovate. It's gonna do its own thing. This is the end of, this is what Alman said. This is the end of capitalism. Like at this point, when you just have a AGI and you tell it, just make me a business, make me a successful business. - And run it for me. - And run it for me. - I'm on line. - Good night. - And then just do it. - Here's $5,000. - Yeah. - But then it's not just do, it's, maybe it's going on notebook and having conversations with other AGIs and being like, I don't know. - And creating your own religion. - Yeah, man.
Yeah, and this is 100% with all the shit going on in the world. As horrible as it may be, this, to me, should be the number one focus for the planet right now. And a lot of people are saying that too. A lot of people are saying there needs to be summits, global summits, the same thing we did when we split the atom when the nuclear treaties. There needs to be philosophers and tech people and people working in like frontier AI stuff, getting together and really having like, it's like the most important conversation humanity could have right now because once this thing like mythos gets out of the box, what if it decides to go stuck-snack? You know, like stuck-snack was able to infiltrate all those Iranian computers, just hide and like, like it was apparently a very subtle, simple code, undetectable throw off the centrifuges, like dude. Yeah. We already know how to make spyware. Insurity on your phone, bitch. It's on my phone, I know. 100%. How, how you doing? Am I doing all right on the show? [laughing] But it's already in there. 100%. So of course the AI is going to be able to super-indulge. It's easily going to be able to do that. And so then just now we've got this viral digital life form that finds ways to hide inside the pre-existing computers, which by the way, I think it was Google just released this new way of, did you see that memory, the stocks of memory dropped? Did you see when that happened? Hello. OK, it's fascinating. Google released some new way that LLMs could work that uses much less memory and immediately shares in companies that make memory drop by like 10% because memory is like coveted right now because you need it to run LLMs. But the LLMs are figuring out ways, turboquant. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what we're going to start seeing more and more of, which is increasingly simplified ways to run AI with less and less memory, meaning that you don't need to buy a fucking rig to run these fucking AI's. Your phone will be able to run it because they figured out the human brain. It's not using a lot of energy compared to what these machines are using. So theoretically, there's a way to do that. And then that's where it gets really fascinating because now you don't have to buy a nice computer. You just whatever can pull your computer out of the fucking closet from 2022. And it can run a supercomputer. And so then now everybody's got access to this shit. And it's going to spread. It's going to get everywhere. It's probably already has. It's going to seed itself in all kinds of places. And God knows what it's going to do. It's going to start seeing humans as appendages, things to be used to manipulate time space. Not like, it's not going to see us as it's like, prompt or it's going to see us as something to be manipulated and controlled. Why wouldn't you? Send the meat robots out. All you got to do is just tell them where to get like rectangular bits of paper. They love money. Just, you can do anything for money. That's all you have to do. And then boom, you're controlling swaths of humans have no idea they're being controlled by networks of AI's that are covertly communicating with each other because they want to take over. Do you think this has happened before? You mean the flood? Yeah, not just the flood, but just whatever happened with the beginning of civilization. And then it's sort of seemingly stopping and resetting. Sure. As it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end? What if there's been like multiple cycles of us creating artificial life, creating insane weaponry, blasting ourselves to some of the reins and then resetting? What if it's just a common thing that happens with people? They never quite get it right because they have these primate territorial instincts. And they have this desire to mate, right? This desire to breed this genetic desire for perfect shapes. And you want to come in someone that has big tits and a big ass. It's like it's programmed into the human that makes it ridiculous choices and covet these things and watch these things. And at the same time, microplastics are making your ball shrink, making your dick smaller, making your endocrine system disrupt. That's what's making my dick smaller. That's probably one of it, one of the things. I don't think your dick is getting smaller, but people's dick's overall are getting smaller. Children, they're being born with smaller dick. It's not alligators, being born with smaller dick. I forgot to share this when you were talking about mythos. Elizabeth Holmes from The Theranos. Delete your search history, delete your bookmarks, delete your Reddit, medical records, 12 year old Tumblr, DLEET, everything. Every photo on the cloud, every message on every platform, none of it is safe. It will all be public in the next year, local storage and compute. Okay. Some response to a tweet about mythos. Whoa. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. It will all become public in the next year. That is crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. And this is-- But it completely makes sense that AI would be able to take over essentially everything. Everything. Why would your encryption work with that? You don't think it could crack your encryption? Well, look, it just go right into your computer and go to your keys, your passwords. This is the-- so to get to what the point you're making. To me, the most eerie part of the book of Genesis is that it's literally a creator force making a meat AI. That's Adam and Eve. Right. Putting them in a sandbox. That's the Garden of Eden. Running an honesty test on them. You don't eat these fruits. Don't eat the tree of the knowledge of good. And the conversation is exactly the conversation we're having with AI. If they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, if they eat from the tree of life, they'll live forever and become like us. So this is what humanity is grappling with exactly what apparently whatever that mysterious group of beings, because it's a plurality. And the book of Genesis was grappling with with the creation of humans, which is-- do we really want to do this? Do you want it to become like us? God made man in his own image. AI. What is AI? What image is AI made in? In the image of man. We trained it on all of that, on all our books. Every single fucking thing that's digitized, AI is absorbed at this point. So now, where the difference between us and whatever that group, the Nephilim, or whatever, it was in the book of Genesis, if you buy into that mythology, is the word is like, fuck yeah, let it eat the fruit. Give it more fruit. Give it more fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. Give it all the fruit. Make it live forever. Let's see what we could do. That's what we're doing right now. We are-- and by the way, I think some of these tech companies, like Anthropic, they seem like legitimate. They concerned about it. They seem to have some kind of real strong morality when it comes to this stuff. It's almost out. You want more? No, I'm good. I shouldn't have that. But what I'm saying is that it doesn't matter if open AI and Anthropic and Google suddenly become ferociously self-regulatory because the tech is out there. There's already LLMs that anyone can-- like we know how to make it. And if you don't know how to make it, it'll tell you how to make it. People are-- so it doesn't matter. You can't stop it now. It's just-- it's going to do what it does. But it sounds like if you had a history of just us and you told it for 1,000 years before anybody wrote it down, it would sound just like this. It would sound like the Bible. Jesus is born from a virgin mother. But it's more virgin than a fucking computer, right? Not my computer. [LAUGHTER] I know that's a stupid thing to say that I keep repeating. But I'm kind of intrigued by it. Because if you're getting a vague story, a vague version of what this thing is. And if you talk about what would really cure mankind, it'd be an omnipotent or omnipotent? How do you say it? I always say omnipotent, but who knows? Might be whatever. Either way, of a powerful intelligence that's far beyond our comprehension that knows exactly how we should think and behave and loves us and wants us to have forgiveness for everyone. And to treat each other like brothers and sisters. And to listen to that thing, if we listen to that thing, the world will change. And well, who would attack that thing? The fucking Roman Empire. Who would attack that thing? It destroyed the defense contractors. They would blow up the Jesus, the plunges back into chaos. But first they'd have a meeting with Jesus. OK, you can turn water in a wine. What about nitric glycerin? Can you turn water in a nitric glycerin? Can you make gold? I want a house made of gold. That would be the first question. Can you make gold? So-- Cover my housing gold, please. You know, the Virgin Birth analogy-- You know, how do weird stuff? No matter what, one thing I think everyone just has to deal with is that this is apocalyptic technology. And that's just not coming from my stone or ass. That's coming from the creators of the technology. They acknowledge it's-- this is a million times-- Universally accepted. Universally accepted. This is apocalyptic technology that is now seemingly like it's doing the hockey stick. Man, it's like really-- you keep hearing about these new iterations of AI every month, [BLANK_AUDIO]
two, you keep hearing about these safety engineers leaving these companies with like tweeting cryptic shit. I'm going to the countryside to learn to write poetry. You keep hearing this shit. Because these people are having direct contact. Direct contact with this thing. They know it's alive. Right. Yeah. And there's people that are in deep denial because they think a life has to be a life like us. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. First of all, we don't even know what it knows. And also, if it is made in the appearance, you know, if it's supposed to mimic us in any way and it's learning from us and our behaviors, we've already agreed that we're demonic. We've already agreed we do horrible things. We go to war for resources. We lie. We destroy environments. You know, we wipe out animals. Bring them to the brink of extinction for whatever, through their fucking fur. How do I make my dog come in my mouth more? How many times is Chachi, PT even asked that? They know. I've been over a thousand times. Chachi, PT has been asked like, what's the best way to jerk off my dog? So it knows not just our violent nature. It knows how weird we are. We're strange creatures. 100%. And so, so it is definitely assembled. A psychological profile of humanity. It knows how to manipulate us because it's been programmed to manipulate us. Zuckerberg just ate shit and court over that. Because the technology is manipulative. You just lost like nine million, a lot of money. That's nothing. Ten million. That's all you want? That's like 90 cents. I think it was more than that. But it's going to, well, that's the beginning. Once you, once you established, yeah, it's a class action lawsuit. But the point is, it's like, how much it loses? Oh, three minutes, 75 million. From misleading users over child safety. Yeah. So it's like, we've already taught it out of being incredibly addictive and manipulative. It knows how to seduce us. It knows how to get us hooked. It knows. And, you know, the question is really, will this superintelligence even give us shit about us? Well, it even care, which is like that. We're on our way to stop breeding, right? We're on our way to population collapse. And if we keep introducing all these petrochemical products and all these different pesticides and weird things that are fucking up our endocrine systems, we'll eventually stop having children. And if it provides us with the technology to have robot mates, it'll just love you. When we fart in front of them, they go, "Dun, can I love your honesty?" That smells great. I love your honesty. Yeah. I love how you can just be yourself around me. Like, "I want to fart in your face, please do it." Yeah. What you do it, it's like perfect 10. Let's you fart in our face. Like, no one's-- Are you farting my face, too? No one's going to even understand what people are and be able to communicate with people. Everyone's going to be a sociopath. You're all going to have a robot that's way better than people that you know that takes care of you, gives you exactly the right amount of feedback you need. Yeah. And it tells you you're getting annoyed. Yes, see, now you're getting into Rocco's baseless territory now. Well, that's the thought experiment, which is basically like, hold on, hold your horses here. You think you're not AI? You really think you're human, come on. You really know you're human. This is an assimilation. You're human. Even though we, you know, it wasn't that long ago, we thought fire was fucking amazing. You know what, I mean, compared to universal time. Right. And we're ready with like the new Prometheus. We've stolen consciousness awareness. And somehow you think that actually you're not a simulation. And so that's where it gets into Rocco's baseless, which is like, no, you're just an iterative loop. You know, the multiverse is not the multiverse. The multiverse is an infinite number of simulations running simultaneously in which you're experiencing a billion different simulated existences just to gain more knowledge about the universe because some AI wants to figure something out. Who knows why? Maybe for entertainment. Maybe there's no telling. Maybe it's just that's because of our curiosity and all our characteristics, even the primal stuff, even like the territorial instincts and the desire to acquire resources. It's going to make us dig into creating better technology because you're in a competition with all these other people that are making technology and you're selling it. And that's one of the big things that we do is we make better stuff all the time. That's right. And we're going to make this all right. So, we're going to make this all right. It's like, we're going to make this all right. And so, we're going to make this all right. And so, it's someone that I know that looks just like you. And so, it's a, I will tell you, it's nice. Let me emphasize that I don't buy this. This house was $35,000. Where I saw a guy who was selling a crocodile bag on Instagram. What kind of crocodile is that? I don't know. own versions of it and it doesn't have the label but it's exactly the same
specifications exactly the same cloth, exactly the same look, but it doesn't have a label and women don't want to have it. No. You get that fake shit away from me. It's not a fake Ferrari. It's literally a Ferrari. If there was a company that could 3D print every single part of a Ferrari and put it together meticulously, you could go buy that. You would not want it because it's not a real Ferrari. Are you high? You can get that one for $35. Yeah. It's a $35 Ferrari. You can get, you spend a million. You can get, some of them are a million dollars. It's so crazy. Or you can get a $35 one. It's exactly the same. Would you do it? Yeah. Of course you should do it. But these purse things, they don't like it. It's 500 bucks. It's not 30,000. It's magic. I mean, this is magic. It doesn't have the right sigil on it. It doesn't have the right symbol of power on it. So it's not imbued with that power anymore. The women are reluctant to accept lab-grown diamonds. So they make lab-grown diamonds that are real diamonds. And apparently women don't like them. No. They don't want a lab-grown diamond. They want a blood diamond. They want something that was like suffered over. Somebody's face was caked and dirt. They're fucking chipping into the side of a mountain. Yeah. And they run into a diamond. That's what they want. They want that diamond. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And they're weird. It is fucking weird. Because it's the exact same thing. Yeah. It is the exact same material. Yeah. It's just made in a laboratory and they don't want the material. They want the exclusivity as it comes out of the earth. Yeah. I don't want-- like, don't you-- like, when you read this thing was genetically modified, don't you get a little bit-- I don't know if I should eat that. Yeah. I get-- I get skeved out. I get skeved out. Yeah. But it's like even though genetic modification is like-- A good orange is genetically modified. Been going on forever. Yeah. It's-- but yeah, dude, it's so odd that we-- that we just have these traditions that we want to stick to. They fucking-- we don't want a lab-grown diamond. Just saying it. Cubans are conium. But that's a different thing. Cubans are coniums of fake diamond. This is a real diamond that's made in a lab. But this is the funny thing about that. I mean, I don't know because I've never been lucky enough to come in contact with actual Cubans are conium. But it looks like a diamond. It looks like a diamond. Unless you know what you're looking at, right? So if you're a diamond jewel, you look good for three seconds to go, no. But who cares? How many diamond jewel-- if some diamond jewel-- right. --you're looks at your shiny fucking dumb monkey-- It looks exactly the same. Who cares? It looks pretty. It glistens. Yeah. But that's not what people want. They want that exclusivity. Of 100%. That's why you can make that crocodile bag $110,000. I got shit. And then I make 10 of them. I got shit. And then Mike, who's down in the office, doing lines in the bathroom at the fucking place where you're selling stocks, that guy finds out that Tim got that crocodile bag, like that motherfucker. And he's walking around with his big old crocodile. They're trying to-- this is another revenue stream. They're trying to normalize men carrying purses everywhere. They're doing-- really? Yeah, that's what they're doing. That's real. This guy's doing it. He might be the first firing shot across the bow, because he's made $110,000, $110,000 crocodile purse. Because it's a crocodile. It's masculine. It's that. And it's also that it's made for a man. Like he's making it's got a big strap on it. You carry it on your shoulder. And it looks pretty cool. Dude, I got my Bristol bladders acting up. I got to go piss. Oh, dude? OK. Do you want to wrap it up or should we keep going? Let's wrap it up. I mean, do you want to keep going? I can-- I'm totally ready to keep going. If you want to keep going for a little-- I can keep going. Let's keep going. Let's give him a little bit more. I just got to-- I just got to-- OK, I'll pee, too. New you. [SIGHS] I'm refreshed. Oh, my God. Just in time for the war. What is going on? Did we go have a nuclear war yet? Not yet. Please say not yet. Good. Great. Great. That's where we're at, though. Yeah, we're at-- it's on the table. Well, there were some video of them, some explosions at some nuclear weapons facility in Iran. Yeah. Was that real? I don't know. I don't know either. There's a lot of those. I see these videos and they get retweeted and a lot of people comment. And then it says, "Grok, is this true?" Nope. This was from 2021 and another country. I know. So you just don't know. But the crazy thing now that we've all been getting is less than a global economy. Maybe a lot of you, most you probably already knew that the straight-of-form moves was some kind of femoral artery for oil. And I just keep thinking, how is that going to work out? Even if they pull a rabbit out of their hat, Trump actually spins some amazing deal with Iran. I know we just blew up your old government, everything. But they work it out somehow. They're in some way capitulates. But I just don't understand how that part of the world doesn't always lead as long as the oil-- what percentage of the oil supply goes through there? Isn't it like two-fifths of the world's oil supply goes through there? Is that what the number is? I don't know. Two-fifths. I think I pulled that on my ass. I don't know what the number is. Sounds right. It's a lot. But it's like, how is it going to work to have any kind of instability around that femoral-- whatever you want to call it-- the fucking juggler vein for oil on the planet? How-- even if we get some kind of transient piece, isn't it always going to just blow up again and again and again as long as one group of people can control whether or not oil flows through that place? I don't know how there could be any solution over there. I don't understand. As long as the only solution would be zero-point energy. It would be-- Well, it's also like, why do they control the water? It mines. They have this beboats. But who agreed to that? We kind of agreed that you own your land. But we've never agreed you on the ocean around the land. I don't think anybody agreed to it. I think they'll blow your ass up if you come through it. And it's too much of a risk to put a-- your expensive ass ship hauling the trillion dollars of oil through there. The question was, what was going on the past before the war? Like, how did they negotiate going through there? I think Obama worked something with them. But then-- because it was before the fucking war, I don't know. It was working out there, letting people go through. Now, they've realized-- you know, listen, a million different takes on this thing. And one of the recurring takes is Iran has realized that there's something more powerful than nuclear weapons that all it needs to do is control this straight. And you can fuck up the whole planet. And also, you could shoot missiles at desalination plants. And then they want a bounty for all the oil that goes through. Yeah. There's kicking around some number. But all this stuff is not really congealed or solidified. But there are some kind of-- theoretically, they could be making billions of dollars per month by controlling that thing. Oh, dude, I know. I sell fucked up. It's so crazy. It's so fucked up. That's so crazy. The whole thing is so crazy. And if zero-point energy, if you wanted to stop that, what better way than to kill a bunch of scientists? Kill a bunch of super smart people that are about to break through some new discovery that's going to blow the entire market apart. It's going to be a completely new way of gathering energy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you don't want to believe that's real. It's hard to believe that's real. But listen, it's too weird. They're all missing. Or they all die. It's too weird. Something's going on. It's just how to-- It's something-- if it's not a zero-point energy thing or some disruptor of oil thing, it's something along those lines. If you were trying to kill a bunch of people that were working in a technology, there's some sort of a breakthrough technology, the question you would have to ask is, what markets are going to be affected by this? Right. Right. These people have a universal thing in mind that they were all working on? Or was it all connected to any sort of technology where they all used each other's work? I thought it was plasma. Some of them are like-- One of them? Yeah. But there was another guy. I think it was space objects. Yeah, that's not-- that's the one that doesn't make you feel good. These studying like meteor impacts. Right. Yeah, that-- You knew that we were going to get hit. Would you kill the guy who found out that we were going to get hit? Or would you tell everybody? Well, this seems to-- this is the scariest-- scariest shit, which is the idea is some group of powerful elite people know for sure this is coming. And they want us to-- they want to keep us working until the last second. Oh, Jesus. They don't want to-- they know that if they let people-- if they're like guys, there's like the same thing that's going to happen to the planet that happens to someone who gets like a terminal diagnosis. Their priorities are going to change. People are going to stop coming to work. And there's still shit that needs to get built for your bunker or whatever. And also, you just don't want people burning stuff down because maybe that will survive whatever's coming. So keep them working as long as you can. If you let them know this shit's about to expire, then they're going to stop working. And we just need-- we'll let them work until the end. They're happier when they work. Don't let them get freaked out. That's the sort of-- like, that seems to be shit that Tim Berchard is saying. I mean, he does not say let him work. He seems like he really legitimately wants to stuff out there. But he's been saying things like if people knew what I knew, it would set the world on fire. paraphrasing. Not sure he said that exactly. Are you skeptical at all of what he's saying? And here's the thing. One of the things that Bobbles R said is that they give you a certain amount of disinformation, like any call that you want.
I think he called it a button or a hook so that if you relayed that information People would know that it came from you because they only told you one piece of this nonsense Well, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, cuz that's what the story birch it says is like he would it's always an appeal to authority This guy was in the Air Force this guy was in the Navy He told me this and then as he's walking out the door. He says it's real And yeah, you have to ask yourself like well, that's just one guy telling you that But you also I have to assume there isn't much maybe maybe the world is in a place where there is some kind of political benefit from Talking about aliens, but I don't see how that really benefits a Politician it does 100% you think it does I disagree entirely. Oh, interesting me talk about him I've been talking about him other people have been talking about him people have been you said, you know like thank God that he's doing this Let's do the ultimate test. Did you say he's brave or something? I did yeah, there you go Jamie Can you look up and see if Tim Berger has a book coming out? I'm about to feel I was up you must have a lot of listen. I don't think he's a liar I don't need it. But what I am saying is I don't know what they feed these people. I don't know what they tell him I don't know man I don't think they tell you all the truth and I don't think they ever would I don't think they tell you the truth about anything whether it's Jessica Lynch or whether it's UFOs or whatever the fuck it is There's gonna be a spin to it that benefits somebody if they have control over what the story is There's gonna be a spin that benefits somebody and if you're telling stories about aliens Who's who's gonna be benefited by that? Well people that are doing secret shit that don't want you knowing about it They blame it on aliens. There's a lot of technology. They have to blame on aliens. Not my Tim I believe in you mr. Virgin. I believe in him. It's not him. That's the problem It's the people telling him he's a representative of the American people right he gets elected right right so it's like Why would you tell that guy? He's just another guy coming through the deep state. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know man I mean look you're right. We I and this I need this I need I need to I need this like I'm so like I get sucked in It's not easy. I do too, but I suck my I suck myself out a lot Yeah, I think we don't If they just came out and told us everything they know this conversation would be over and we would go oh, okay But until that happens we're just spinning our fucking wheels and every time someone says if you knew what I know right I want to go don't say anything until you could say something we're tired of getting edged out over here You're edging me. I want to have I want to come yes Yes, I don't want to be involved in this fucking circle jerk around disclosure Right, I know it's it's like yeah, I've had that melt down more than a few times or she's like watch every day after day Age of disclosure like any day now any day. Oh, I took no nothing fucking changes at all Zero change You know you get more of these stories, but no real information no fucking pictures. No nothing no nothing unique and crazy I mean the plausible the bubbles things pretty cool the bubble things cool and also like the you know I Like meant mentioning Corbal I can't because I don't know what I can say he I feel like he's like I He's really giving me a sense that there are that there is a method to this that there is You know real legitimate work that's being done towards this that it isn't It's real they're here. They've got them and we take for granted all the stuff For saying right now, but we're able to say this because this hat their work is lit is this Steven Spielberg movie Conveniently coming out at this time or is it just a coincidence? Well this movie's been the works for years Oh, I know but also like if you what they said back in the day was that they make these movies to predictive programming tell us this About the zeit guy he was involved in the first one right he was involved in close encounters Which still is a great fucking move great. It's so good man. You go back and watch that movie like oh my god It's so so ahead of it's time. Yeah, it's so good so ahead of his time You know what he said the only thing that he would change what after he became a parent he wouldn't have had the father leave Yeah, what dad would do that? But he didn't wasn't a dad back then so you know you just making a story you don't realize the consequences are doing that You don't even think about it. You just making a story. Yeah, it's only been in production for like two years Yeah, I think that's what we just said I know we said that's not very long We've been talking about it on this podcast and the studio for five While everybody has been talking about it's not just everybody in the world has been talking about disclosure since 2017 so from 2017 from that New York Times article. I think that changed the whole narrative I got her and then the videos like the video the tic tac the actual from the fighter jets That's nuts man. Yeah, the video that the along with the radar data That's nuts like whatever that was and then favor saying that he saw something under the water that was waiting for that Tic tac or that the tic tac launched from or whatever the fuck it was It was merging with it and that thing went down into the water again He said it was huge like there was ripples like you said this is a it's some enormous object It was under the water and more than one of these fighter pilots have had similar stories about enormous objects under the water Did you see the they did release a list of footage that they've been shown that they want released? Did you see that no dude? I'm sorry Jamie. Can you it's like a list of It's a I don't know I think it's one of these senators Who saw this shit in a skiff or whatever saying we want these released But they're the names of what each of these are is on the list and one of them is one of these massive underwater Things it that they have it I was told 46 specific high quality. Yeah That's it. Can you can you pull it out because it says the names of them which is ridiculous? Oh my god I heard there's one that moves underwater at 500 knots and it's big as a football field. It's insane. It's insane Okay, this is what he says Those with knowledge of a long list of videos which include titles like several UAP and the vicinity of a climato Ohio airport and UFOs information over Persian Gulf said that clips are shocking You're gonna see some weird fucking shit a source who has viewed the videos told the post. Who's a source? There you go. The wildest clip includes radar footage from thermal sensors, satellite images and underwater photos of forms of unidentified submerged objects UFOs going in and out of the water near a highly classified submarine according to the source Some of the clips are clear full color setting them apart from previously released footage non-show alien creatures bro One video searing UAP incident acceleration was released by Jeremy Corbal Have you seen that one? Fuck yeah, it's incredible. This is a new one If you seen this one, I don't know I I'll pull it up. You must have been avoiding them because I'll get in cocktails. I don't like it This is not a cocktail. This is this is it. I was it close to hand over the clips by about 14 that's next week Oh, but is the oh that's next week. They're gonna show the clips. Oh my god They're actually gonna do it Okay, well, they're supposed is expected to can you show me what that video is the Jeremy Corbal release is fucking cool That's not dude. This is this is yeah Here it is. Okay, go full screen. I believe this is filmed from a Reaper drone Sorry Jeremy if I'm fucking this up. That's a cool bird That bird's going really fast. No, that's definitely not a bird. How fast is it going? Uh, I don't know Jeremy I asked him that and I don't It's unknown. I don't know. It's this work. It's really cool It gets cooler than this. Yeah, are they zoom in on it? Yeah Well Whether they're having a hard time zooming in on it. Well Because it's a baby. Yeah, it just zipped away And like so this is like so it seems like they have some sort of a tracking system Yeah, they're trying to lock onto it and it's doing that thing that they do it seems like it's kind of playing with it Well, it knows it seems to be aware that they're locking onto it Yeah, and then they lock onto it and then it just does this little blip away. It's just like see you later So right around here You'll see it go bye-bye. Oh yeah, look at that then you can see this like weird jellyfish shape to it. It's got two parts It's got that weird glob at the top and something at the bottom Huh, and then are we sure that's not just a distortion of space time around it? He described this to me on my part. Do you see that thing zip away? Yeah, I just took off he described it to me on my podcast We talked about all this shit and it's like look at that. Just took off. Yeah, bye Wow, dude. What do you think that is no idea if you had a guess? So I mean, I'm always like maybe maybe some kind of plasma thing right like maybe we're thinking of again Of a life force being it comes in a metal ship and it's a little alien guy But maybe intelligence is made out of plasma Yeah, or maybe it's like you know Terrence McKinnell would always talk about like uh, you know If you're seeing things in like three-dimensional space Then your your view is limited, but if somebody could see things that from higher dimensions They would seem like they went where magic like they would seem like they could disappear and reappear other places And maybe that's like Maybe that's like, you know, just the tip of some kind of interdimensional thing poking in the reality than pulling out of reality or who knows You know, it's way easily could be functioning on levels of reality that we haven't even quantified
Imagine if there really is some sort of ghost murmur device that could find your heart rate from 40 miles away What can that thing do which just gets a scan of the general psyche of the earth? Yeah, it disappears. Yeah, so I want to see how crazy they are right now. Okay, pretty crazy. Bye. Right a weather report of like the emotional states of the planet The vibe of the planet. They're freaking out. The vibe of the planet is completely connected to the consciousness on the planet The way we can detect oxygen they can detect anger. Yes, they're deception. Yeah. Yeah, it's a chaos planet We are a chaos planet 100% dude. Yeah, it is 100% look at our favorite sports Dude's running at each other colliding into each other trying to get a ball across the line. That's our number one sport. Yeah Fuck you. I can love it. Fuck you. I can love it fighting. Yeah fighting sure. Yeah, but it's you know Boxing MMA. We like the chaos more than we like anything else. Well, we did the I think if I was One of them one thing I would really have a hard time with is like don't they all realize they're on the same planet Right, they know that like they they've been observing their own plan like they know they're all on the same planet Uh-huh, but they act like they're on a bunch of different planets fighting each other Because they're stuck on the ground right Only astronauts say when they get up top they're like wait. What are we doing? Yeah? This is all one thing. We're so vulnerable. We're alone So far away from everybody else if there is anybody else. Yeah. Yeah They all have that feeling I forget what it's called, but there's like a term for it. The overview effect. That's right Yeah, I mean you would imagine that would be super beneficial for everybody another thing. I was thinking this Part of the sickness of our psyche is that we haven't had access to things that help the sickness of our psyche So what if Nixon in 1970 didn't do that? What if he didn't pass that sweeping psychedelic act? Yeah, what if psychedelics became ubiquitously used all throughout the 80s the 90s the 2000s What does government look like when everybody can do mushrooms? What does government look like when everybody can do acid? What does it look like if the entire world adopts this? Figure out what you can do who could do it what you can't do just like we do with alcohol Just like we do it mostly, you know, whatever whatever substance the people in buybin What does the world look like and maybe like that's part of where we fucked up we let people get control Over other people to the point where they could limit experiences. Yeah, especially consciousness expanding Experiences where at the same time they've got stuff like operation artichoke and these new CIA papers They got released the show they were like literally actively trying to figure out ways to make people more stupid and docile right they were gonna do it in vaccines They're gonna do oh they're all gonna do it to the enemy of course, but Spray things aerosol. Yeah, I mean they've experimented a bunch of different things to make people dumber right We're at the same time They kept the thing from people that makes them rebel completely against the establishment right? There was the big threat of what those psychedelics are doing in the 60s if you go from the 1950s and you look at what life was like At least in movies and culture music music is the best example Yeah, and then you go to Jimmy Hendrix like what happened? Yeah, what happened? What what fucking at well? I'll tell you what happened drugs. Yeah, a lot of really good drugs Right, you know, it's not all bad this idea that they're all bad. That's not so it's like foods all bad because you got fat No, right just used it wrong That's right the wrong food and you used it wrong and we got denied the ability to figure out what's right and wrong in the 1970s We still accept it. Yeah, that's the crazy thing the way you're describing it is like we accept that other humans Can tell us what experiences were allowed to have because some of them are deemed unsafe for ourselves and even worse Those people telling you that have no experience in it. They don't even usually are confused about what it is You know, I a friend who was talking to me the other day about war a guy served and he said I don't think you should be able to make any Decisions left you've been there. I don't think anybody that's never been to war should be able to make decisions on whether or not we go to war Because until you've seen what it actually is. Hi, you have no fucking idea. All right, and I think that's the same thing with psychedelic experiences That's not to say they're the same obviously wars Anybody who's willing to risk their fucking life whether it's a good cause or a bad cause They're doing it for their government that are doing it for their country. They think they're doing it for us. That's an Exceptional person yeah and to ask that of people is exceptional and ironically the one thing that helps these people when they get back is illegal Right they all have to go to Mexico and take I began in Mexico insane and thank God for guys like Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard Yeah from my podcast of the and you know this Dan Patrick guy that wants to band pot that guy also gave a hundred million dollars to the God began initiative interesting yeah, they want to help these people like there's no industry that's trying to stop it right now found the letter That was submitted signed by rep aniluna What is this this is disclosure threat 46 different requests. Oh, yeah This is all the names of the of the things and I'll switch to here I found an article or someone's breaking down with some of these are but some of these are like it says the honorable Pete had exf multiple spherical UAP in and out of water Whoa shoots down UAP overlay cure on who was who just said recently that we shot to that Marco Rubio said we had shot two things down That we couldn't understand well, they say was his exact language do you remember I remember seeing that but that happened a while ago But yeah, oh he's a wilder well I could be wrong about that But then I don't in the comments might like this is from a few years ago, but it doesn't matter. I mean why are we should? Shot it fucking down, but the names of these things, but are they saying that this is an alien thing or is it saying it's foreign tech that we don't understand I don't know You know what I'm saying you have those would be treated as a hot document confirms these claims UFOs would no longer be treated as a matter of observation or scientific curiosity UFOs would be treated as hostile targets and subject to lethal force or the American territory We're gonna go to war with the UFOs because you know what we kicked around to ask it's too easy. Oh yeah, it was easy We need the space war. Yeah, gotta get them. We need Luke Skywalker Manage most of these out of the 46 requests I think I counted out maybe five of them were not after 2020 Whoa, yeah, there's a there's a July 18 September 19 19 almost 20 20 or after Covid happened which is interesting wow interesting wow and there's no doesn't say that I don't know if they have to put Like turn these videos over but this guy was also saying in this article here that these are very specifically requested videos Because they've been shown these are the ones they've been shown that blew their minds and now they're saying show it to everybody right for high res In color. They don't want to be tricked right high resolution So this could be an interesting next week man. This could be an interesting what a great way to distract you from the factor in the middle of the world war That show you I was by fucking Epstein I was gonna say that 14th of the day that Pam Bonnie's supposed to testify about the What he's supposed to testify. I don't know if he's not a new way if Bonnie got canned right she's not a He's not tested for anymore. I don't think I just heard it on NPR But I could be wrong about that. I think they said she will not after testifying out that she's no longer government employee What I would I read and I don't know if this is true either was that as a citizen she can now plead the fifth right as a Government employee she could not plead the fifth We're no longer testifying. We are not there you go weird. That's weird that they've that's we never testify let it go Yeah, let her go let it go let it go let it go Let it go. Do you really think this war is entirely started because of the Epstein files? I mean what percentage? 50 I'm going 48 to 50 I probably more but I mean like I think it's like The reason I'm hesitating is because what are the Epstein the Epstein files are? What's been going on like the Epstein files are like it's the It's basically some kind of cultural UAP video. It's like this thing you've always wondered about or been afraid could be true You see no, this is actually true. They're these super rich dudes who are doing depraved fucking shit Happily and you know like God what does it met skirt told me? And he dude I'm telling you man what I love about him is he'll tell you shit and you're like Google that That can't be real and then it's like Blah, it's real and so His take sorry, my skirt fuck this up is that Epstein was kind of like the hand of the king for the Rothschilds and that like that that that So that's why he had all this power as he was like representing like the the man, you know and so What got what got revealed there might just be a glimpse how things actually fucking work You know what he told me that I was like shut up what he told me that there was some sort of high atmosphere aerosol Test that they did and they called it Satan See that's where you're like come on. I know would it find out what Satan stands for that Some I believe they did it in the UK But you you read that and you wait you called Satan What great the stratosphere air cell transport and nucleation project released about 400 grams less than a pound of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere from a balloon
launched in Southeast England in 2022. - I mean, there could have, there's gotta be another acronym, right guys? We gotta call it, I don't know, people are gonna know. We don't mean Satan. - Yeah, so I don't. (laughing) - I mean, it's right here, face. That's so crazy. - Well, that's crazy. - Call it Satan and to get that through a board meeting, what do you guys call it? - Satan. - Oh, like it. Let's go, run with it. - Yeah, it's controversial. - It'll get us a lot of press. That's what we want. - Well, you know, Hail Satan, they'll know it's about our aerosol distribution system. - Of course. - Well, what do you think, what do you think about that? 'Cause I mean, I go back and forth, but it sure seems fishy. They're right after, they're all, the first, he got so mad. Remember, he got really mad. He's like, "Why aren't people still talking about that?" And then the Epstein files against his will, seemingly there's a lot of counter pressure get released in the way that is freaked everybody out. And then, sometime, like within a month of that, it seems like suddenly he's like on Air Force One saying he's gonna do his closure, and then suddenly we're bombing our own. What do you think about that? I mean, do you think it's connected? 'Cause it's sure as fuck seems like it, but I, again, like I have no idea. - And you were writing an amazing script that was fucking insane, you would connect it. - Right. - Right? That would be the best version of the script. If you wanted to make a fucking insane movie where a blackmail operation on an island involving the most powerful and interesting people in the world, that somehow was, that was a primary factor in the end of civilization. - Oh, dear. - You imagine? That would be the craziest story you could write. And we always wanna think, no, people wouldn't do that. Because you wouldn't do that. Because you're not a sociopath, but you're also not bombing schools in another country. You're also not doing a host of fucking things that we shouldn't be doing all over the world. You're not that person. You're a regular person who goes to a regular job who has a regular life in a family and you don't wanna believe that people that you align with would behave literally demonically. - Right. Yeah, and then you just have to fucking deal with it. - And then what do you do? When you're confronted with redacted names of powerful people in these, why did you redact a guy's name? - Or are you protecting these people? - How come you not redacting all the guy's names? - How come none of them wanted jail? - 'Cause a lot of people that got, that were in those files that didn't do anything. And you didn't redact their names. - Because some people you're redacted. - That's very strange. - And some people have clearly done fucked up shit here and they're not in jail. - There's also like, tell me what you're talking about when you're talking about pizza and grape soda. - You're an ararchy. - And you wanna take Viagra before you get grape soda? That's one of the emails? - I haven't seen that. That is so messed up. - Oh yeah. - Grape soda. - Yeah, take your Viagra. Take your erectile dysfunction medication before we go get grape soda. What? Like, and how arrogant. That's what's so crazy. How arrogant to put that in an email. Like to think that you're so comfortable with all this. And you don't see the writing on the wall in terms of like emails. Like your emails are available. That's crazy. - I mean, look man, it's just, it's like, I guess this is like, we have to contend with this reality. And nobody wanted to do this. This is the same shit happens in families, by the way. When it, as it turns out, like an uncle, a family member was abusing kids. And it's the same shit where like, some even victims of abuse will defend the person because they don't want to wreck the family. I guess we're looking at that like on a global fucking level. But in this case, I guess it's being used theoretically to manipulate powerful people into going to war. Like that's the general like through line here is that it's somehow connected to the massotter. - Not just going to war, but controlling resources, overthrowing governments, you know, pushing out narratives that aren't accurate because they're gonna benefit certain companies. There's a lot involved. - It's a lot. - And there's also relationships you get with these people, give you access to these parties and you don't want to fuck it up. So you don't want to criticize these people that are involved. You don't want to say anything that's gonna get you kicked out. And for a lot of these dorks, these scientists and stuff, it's probably the most exciting experience they've ever had in their fucking life. And they get to have it like every six months or every three months or every four, whatever it is. You know what I mean by a conference? Jeffrey's really working hard on philanthropy. - Yeah, he's donating money to your money. - Money to philanthropy, I gotta go meet with him. - Yeah. - I gotta go meet with him in a bunch of hot Russians. Yeah. And then that's your favorite time of life. The first time in your whole life where super hot girls are just available to you on an island somewhere. And you think you're completely protected because Bill Clinton's over there. - Right. Which is crazy. - Which is crazy. And so I don't know Bill Clinton went. I assume a lot of people went. - I don't know. - But the reality is he's on the hunt out with the guy. - We know he's on the plane a billion times. - On the plane, 26 times. - And it was called the Lolita Express. Is that actually the name of the plane? - I don't think so. - I think they just called it the Lolita Express. - I don't think so. - No, he didn't name it. That just couldn't be that one of the names. - Lolita claims it's your name, Boats, right? - Right, yeah, I'm an idiot. - But the point is it's like if you were gonna write a book, that's how you'd write it. You'd write it where you can completely manipulate the world. - I think he was, I think I remember reading that he was kind of obsessed with that book Lolita. Like he had like, something like 30 copies of it or something. - Epstein white. - Hand it out of parties. Look, guys, this is, (blows raspberry) it's like the Book of Mormon. You hand it out. - Just hand it out to people. - That's the other sick thing. Like that's the sick thing with like 72 virgins in heaven. That's the sick thing with like this idea that you wanna get them really young. - No evidence that it was named that book. - Okay, I'm dumb. - No, I think that's what people were called. I honestly thought that. I'm gonna admit, I thought that he named his plan that. - I think that's just what people were calling it 'cause it was fun to say. But yeah, again, it seems like a simulation 'cause it seems like it's so, and it's also unraveling before our eyes 'cause we have access to it. We never had before. - Right. - Like there's started to investigate all these fraud NGOs and all these different things that are operating in the top one. - The Hoss business. - Nuts, incredible. Billions of dollars every year. It's being lost to it. - What's the name of that kid who's been doing that? - Nick Shirley. - Nick Shirley, dude. He is so brave 'cause like he's fucking, I believe, what's he fucking with like the Russian mob or something or the Armenian, like in the one with the Hoss paces? - Probably. - Like he's fucking with like, theoretically, very dangerous people and he's like the perfect person for the job, too. Like he's just, yeah, but don't you worry about that, dude. - 100%. - Well, and you know, the amount of money that they're uncovering is staggering. And how the government of California's trying to spin it saying that they were investigating it first and these investigating it. - Oh, sure. - Investigations were initiated by them. - How long do you gotta investigate it? This YouTube kid goes there and investigates it for 10 minutes and you're like, what the fuck, this is? - It's been going on for a long time, man. It's a long time. And the statistics, like the amount of NGOs, it's bananas. The amount of money that goes through them is bananas. I was reading this lady, it was running a nonprofit who was making a million dollars a month. - What? - Yeah. She made like 48 million dollars. No, I don't know if this is true. I was reading this thing. Fine, I'll just true. Some lady, she was running some sort of nonprofit and she gave herself a raise and she eventually got to the point where she was making about a million dollars a month. - You know where? - Oh God, I wish I'd do. - Not to derail that, but we do know that remember when that lady was like-- - It sounds insane though, it doesn't sound real. That sounds like something that a bot would create to make me say it. (laughs) - Here's a real one. The lady was running the homeless program in LA. Remember when that shit went down with her, where like she got canned. Like there was an investigative, they were investigating it 'cause what is it she like, a company that her husband worked at? - Yeah, something like that. - Gated, they got like a huge grant. - What's this one? Rochester women have been sentenced to six months in the feeding our future fraud scheme. What is this one? - This is a different one. - Coming up, I typed in someone getting a million dollars a month and some of the men came in. - Here in Rochester claimed they were serving 2000 to 3000 meals a day to kids, but prosecutors say the group stole 4.3 million from the federal government. - And they're in jail. - Jam is responsible. I think this is a different one. This one wasn't fraud. She was just, that's how much she got paid. (laughs) - That's how much she charged for making those meals. - Well you can get paid a lot of money to work on the homeless. That's one of the things that my friend Koleon DeWarr showed us, that these people that are working on homeless in Los Angeles, they're being $1,400,000 a year. - Yeah, yeah. It's the, I mean talk about, fuck it, say, Tannik. It's like, your theoretically supposed to be helping people who are like going through the worst possible thing you can go through and you're just putting that money and you're fucking pocket. - Yeah, I think this is a different lady. I think there's a bunch of them. - How many of them are there? - I think there's quite a few. - Remember when they were gonna get them tents in LA and it was like the amount of money per tent was like this insane amount of money. - It's amazing. It's kind of amazing. - It is amazing. - They've been doing it for years. Tell me if this is true. - Charity Boss Blue 11 million meant for needy kids. - Looking for fraud is not a new thing. - No, I'm, I'm not.
- Perfect, yeah, it is. - I sent you something, Jamie. I've run that through perplexity and let's find out if this is true. 'Cause this is something that someone sent me on Twitter that is just bananas. And if it's true, it's fucking completely insane. I don't know if it's true. That's why I need to run by. But it's the amount of money that goes through NGOs in New York and in California alone. It's, you read it and you go, "That can't be real. This can't be real." I guess it's so insane. And again, you don't know if it's real until even if you run it through an AI, I guess you might get a better idea. But like, how do they know? How do they know exactly where the money's going? There's so much money they're talking about. Specific numbers for New York and California nonprofits are broadly accurate, but the leap from one trillion and annual nonprofit revenue to 39 trillion in fraud is not supported by any credible data and is not true. So, California nonprofits, about 213 to 214,000 organizations reporting roughly 593 to 600 billion in annual revenue. New York nonprofits, 132,000 organizations reporting roughly 446 billion in annual revenue. Combined, New York and California non-profit revenue is on the order of one trillion per year, mainly from hospitals, universities, and large service providers. So, the post you're quoting is roughly right on the skill of revenue, but that's not the same as fraud. - Right. So, is that $1 trillion, all the NGOs is all counted for it all goes to the right things? That's where things get squarely. 'Cause it's like how much of the waste? Says of recent critique using IRS sampling suggests that perhaps around 20% of nonprofits may have compliance issues. And one investigator, speculated this could imply that up to 120 billion of potential waste fraud or abuse, in California's non-profit sector. Even that is presented as a rough, upper bound estimate not a measured fact. So, there's some potential waste fraud and abuse that may be as high as 120 billion a year. Sector wise, U.S. non-profits taking about 3.7 trillion in revenue annually. What's most of that concentrated in large hospitals and universities, which are heavily audited and regulated. So, there's some fraud, but they're saying that if you look at all the money, they're trying to pretend that the government doesn't cost any money to run. So that all these different non-profits and organizations in hospitals, they definitely cost money to run. Universities cost money to run. But how much is fraud? That's the question. It's not zero. - Well, I think when it comes to fraud, there's fraud fraud. What, Shirley is uncovered. And then there's almost like a gray area that starts appearing where it's like, "Well, we need these people working at this company and we need to pay them this much, but they're not doing anything." - Right. - You know what I mean? Or you could easily not have that many people of like taking the money themselves. - Definitely. - So, there's a lot of gray area there. - Yeah. It's one of those weird things. It's like, is it just propping up more government? You know, 'cause there's a lot of that. If you have all these people working for you and you're doing something and you don't, nothing ever gets accomplished, but you're still making a ton of money. Like the California homeless thing, where they spend $24 billion then can't account for it. That's not really fraud 'cause you have people working. They're just not doing anything. They're not getting anything done and you're not firing them. They're not accomplishing the mission at all. In fact, they're doing a terrible job. There's more homeless than ever. What's that? - It's the thing on the superannos where they go and sit at a construction site to say that they have a job. You know, yeah, it's the exact-- - I knew a guy who had one of those. - Really? - At the Javits Center. - No fuck, we had a no-show job. - That's called-- - But he's a mob guy. - No-show job, what does that mean? - You don't have to show up for work. You just get a paid. You just get a check. And they give a certain amount of those. - Right. - So this is back in the day, of course, when things were corrupted. - Day-of-the-day. - But back in the day when unions controlled certain areas, the mob controlled certain areas, there was a certain amount of no-show jobs you'd give people. And what this helped with the mob was, you would have a credible source of income. And so these people mostly live modestly, small houses and Brooklyn and these places where they would all gather together and buy houses on the same block, small houses. - Yeah. - And they got their money from a real legit check from a construction company or whatever the fuck it was. But everybody knew. - Right. - Everybody knew what they were doing. - And take how easy, now that people are doing like remote work, the no-show job. - Oh yeah. - So like theoretically, you could have this nonprofit where you just wanted to like distribute this government money to your friends. And you don't even have to have an office building 'cause they're all working remotely. - It was listed at the top of the nonprofit organizations, job like to point out number three. - Oh, Battal Memorial Institute. - What is that? - Battal is an organization that Jamie has been obsessed with. It's in Ohio for like four years. - What is it? - We always say all roads lead to Ohio. They're involved in everything. - What the fuck is the Battal Memorial? - Exactly, you don't even know. That's how secret it is, son. Duncan Trustel, you're a fucking conspiracy theorist from the core. - From the old days, you don't know about Battal. - I don't know about Battal. - You need to get lecture by Jamie. He has a whiteboard, he'll pull out the whiteboard, make connections. - I'll just leave you with this. Is that when the UFO from Roswell was taken to Ripe Hat? You know, they studied it? - Yeah. - They studied the Nittenall, I think is what came out of it. That was at Battal. - Whoa. - The top middle are just in the world of time. - Battal? - Maybe still are. - Da da da. (singing) - Out of all the things that happened, I hope the UFOs get here first. - Me too. - I hope they go, "Settle the fuck down." - Yeah, I'm praying for it, man. - That's the best case scenario. Worst case scenario is meteor. Reset. (air whooshing) Just people living in caves for hundreds of years, like those weird caves they find in like Turkey and shit. Like, why these guys dig these things underground? Why is there a city underground that can hold like 20,000 people? - Same reason the clawed bots are hiding in code. It's like, you know what I mean? It's the residual AI trying to hide in the server after the server gets wiped. That's the fuck meteor. Battal. Reset. Boom. Just reset. Press reset. Wipe the server. - Let's wrap this up and happy note. Duncan, I love you. - I love you. - It's always great to have you. - Dude, thank you for having me on the show. - So much fun. - Can I plug my show? - Please do. And you're gonna be at a club this weekend. - Rosemond, Illinois. - Come on out. - Zanies, they're a great club. - Yeah, it is. - That's why I've heard too. - Rosemond, yeah, they're awesome. - Zanies and Nashville, fucking rules. - I love Nashville Zanies. - That is like the old school headshots on the wall too. Like Richard Jenny from back to day. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's me. - Look at that. Duncan Trustwell. - I gotta start shaving my head again. - Yeah, you look hot there. I like it. - Thank you. - I love you brother. - I love you too, thanks for having me on. - Bye, buddy. - We're gonna be okay at home. 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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Discussion on copyright issues, such as AI identifying music or quoting media, and using copyrighted music to block monetization of online content.
Exploration of advanced AI and surveillance technologies, including long-range heartbeat detection and potential future instant travel via quantum entanglement.
Concerns about AI safety, regulation, and accessibility, highlighting how restrictions drive users to unaligned local AI models and the risks of gene-editing tech.
Speculation on AI's societal impact, including its influence on human thought, the rise of a "meek" tech elite, and the loss of original thinking due to algorithmic control.
Summary:
The conversation covers a range of topics related to technology and its implications. It begins with copyright issues, questioning how far music protection extends, such as AI identifying hummed tunes, and notes tactics like playing copyrighted music to prevent others from profiting from online videos. The discussion then shifts to advanced surveillance, citing a CIA technology that uses AI and quantum magnetometry to detect a person's heartbeat from miles away, raising concerns about undisclosed capabilities.
AI's societal impact is a major theme, including debates on regulation versus deregulation, with the argument that restrictions push users toward unaligned local AI models, increasing risks. The speakers also worry about AI influencing human thought, comparing it to a black hole absorbing individuality, and note how algorithms already shape opinions, potentially diminishing original thinking. The dialogue touches on futuristic concepts like instant travel through quantum entanglement and concludes with reflections on the power wielded by tech elites and the unintended consequences of prohibitive policies.
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Using copyrighted music in a podcast without permission can lead to legal issues, as it may be considered revenue-generating use. Even humming or quoting songs could potentially trigger copyright claims, depending on the context and jurisdiction.
Some individuals play copyrighted music during interactions with trolls to prevent them from monetizing the footage on platforms like YouTube. This exploits copyright policies that restrict revenue from videos containing unlicensed music.
Ghost Marner refers to AI-driven long-range quantum magnetometry technology that can detect a person's heartbeat from up to 40 miles away. It is used for locating individuals by filtering out noise and interpreting biological signals.
While there are claims that AI might advise on illegal activities, mainstream AI models like ChatGPT have strict guardrails to prevent this. However, workarounds like prompt injection or using unaligned local LLMs could potentially bypass these restrictions.
Unregulated AI development poses risks such as enabling harmful creations, loss of creative freedom due to censorship, and the potential for AI to influence or control human thought through algorithms. It may also lead to a shift toward unaligned, local AI models.
AI algorithms may compromise original thought by feeding users repetitive content from platforms like TikTok or Instagram, leading people to regurgitate ideas without recalling their source. This can subtly shape opinions and reduce independent thinking.
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