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Speaker 4Then I said to the CEO, "How's your bladder?" - What? Oh yeah, you too. - I mean, do you think there was anyone that day who asked the CEO how his bladder was? - Probably not that whole week. The thing is, cool is not something you aim for. Cool is something you just ask. - So you can't self-define? - No. And you also can't try. - No. - Because then that is uncool. -
Speaker 5The menopause supplement industry is basically the Wild West. That is the headline. It is predicted that the global market for menopause supplements is due to reach $25 billion by 2030. - So, what's the next step? - Well, we're going to have to wait and see. We're going to have to wait and see.
Speaker 4Yeah. yes oh right okay
Speaker 5but he didn't find that
Speaker 4funny i was because i was so amused but he doesn't know you yeah so you said yeah you said oh he is gonna be my second husband no i said if
Speaker 5i was to have a second husband no you didn't you said he's gonna be oh yeah i said if i was ever to have a second husband it would be him something like
Speaker 4him no no not him him no you said if i was ever gonna have a second husband
Speaker 5it would be him yeah and you and i
Speaker 4said so rude and i said and there was a lovely um audio engineer in the room at the time wasn't there yeah setting the room up yeah i said
Speaker 5to her just to be clear i am happily married i don't want a second husband no you said that after yeah because i didn't want her to get the wrong
Speaker 4impression you said that after i said i love you you did not
Speaker 5say that you just looked at me and you said i'm sorry he is much too cool for you you what she's like he is much too cool for you he's got like bracelets where he's got jewelry he and you were like yes if you then you
Speaker 4said yes it's true i don't actually like jewelry i actually there you go then i
Speaker 5don't like men in jewelry it's not for me so that
Speaker 4exactly yeah a ring a bracelet
Speaker 5a necklace right it gives me the ick
Speaker 4but i wasn't the one that said it anyway you were like you were right really offended you were right really offended you were right really offended you were really really offended you were really
Speaker 5offended you know do you remember
Speaker 4then i said that's when i said i love you i said i love you but but he's just not your vibe and you're like what do you mean he doesn't want a middle-aged woman with three with three kids who can just bake for him all the time i'm like he's the ceo just pay for someone he doesn't want someone to
Speaker 5do that it's fine it's okay i keep thinking about now i'm thinking about him i'm thinking about that real housewife i can't remember her name but she had the husband who always wore the black cord pendant necklace do you know who i mean they got divorced because they had some sex flat and some open marriage come on bronwyn bronwyn and her husband and he had the black cord pendant necklace and it like it it gave me such an ick and i can kind of imagine him maybe wearing a black cord necklace with a pendant you know
Speaker 4i don't want to cuss now he's got a colostomy bag and he's got some icky pendant this guy was perfect he was great he was great if you had your zip fixed
Speaker 5yeah on the black jumpsuit yeah i could be cool with him somewhere into her house i
Speaker 4don't i don't think you're cool is not a word i would use to describe you you're wonderful and i love you one of my favorite people on the planet but you are i wouldn't describe you as
Speaker 5cool i don't think i i don't think i i should be aiming for that at nearly 50 anyway you know what i mean i think that's probably best yeah like that would be so sad i think it's not like the goal but 50 is it anymore was it ever the goal not really thing is cool is
Speaker 4not something you aim for cool is something you just are so you can't self-define no and you also can't try no because then that is uncool very who's
Speaker 5the coolest person
Speaker 4you know oh the guy
Speaker 5who's 50th birthday i went to the other weekend yeah but he has been cool since we were 14 yeah yeah that's what he was cool then you're either in you're just you just are yeah he's a skateboarder he was into cool bands he just had it he was just cool and then when he was cool when he was 30 he's still cool at 50 but also he doesn't try to be cool nobody tries to be cool nobody that is cool tries to be cool and his wife also cool and he's got kids and they have also got this just very cool vibe laid back vibe from him you can't buy it you can't manufacture it no you just can't no it's
Speaker 4just yeah it just is
Speaker 5just is it just is yeah yeah i am
Speaker 4really pleased that we have taken the first segment of the show to figure out what cool is because you know what two nearly 50 year old women talking about what is cool is so desperately
Speaker 1uncool the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years think about it now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime comes first seven up flip the
Speaker 2sip this episode is brought to you by netflix's new series east of eden a bold reimagining of john steinbeck's masterpiece following generations of the trask family through love betrayal and the choices that shape humanity starring mike feist and christopher abbott as the trask brothers and florence pew as kathy ames the complex anti-heron determined to build the life she wants no matter the cost watch east of eden
Speaker 3now only on netflix this episode is brought to you by palm olive family time isn't just the big moments it's weeknight dinners sitting around the table everyone talking all at once so when the plates are empty and the sink is full use palm olive ultra palm olive's most powerful formula removes up to 99.9 percent of grease leaving your dishes sparkling clean and the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together shop now at palmolive.com fall never arrives
Speaker 6all at once first the air then the light and slowly the things you love begin to find each other a jacket meets a dress a hoodie slips beneath a blazer an old cap finds a new scarf because you don't simply step into the season you create a new season and you create a new season and you create a new season and you create it layer by layer until it finally feels like fall find fall your way at ross yeah yeah it is isn't it anyway yeah you have
Speaker 4talked about
Speaker 6that
Speaker 4there's apparently a lot of midlife news going
Speaker 5on god there's so much midlife news going on this one's going to make you very very cross oh very very cross itv news revealed an investigation into medical schools in england this week and they found that some student doctors receive how much menopause teaching in their five-year degree how much menopause i think i think i know this isn't it like a weekend no no no no oh no no no but
Speaker 4it's a weekend but
Speaker 5it's also optional uh no um as little as one hour of formal menopause teaching during their entire five-year medical degree your friend syra yes who is an
Speaker 4endocrinologist yes that is a hormone doctor yes said that when she was studying which was how many years ago years ago right yeah they were offered this non-obligatory training weekend on the menopause and let's bear in mind she was studying to be an endocrinologist yeah shocking and most people don't know that she was studying to be an endocrinologist people didn't take
Speaker 5the course yeah so some universities apparently rely on students picking up menopause knowledge opportunistically during clinical placements the medical school council points out that menopause is now part of the licensing exam and said that the itv figures don't capture all the practical learning but the menopause specialist interviewed by itv said that the amount and quality remains hugely inconsistent one gp men and menopause specialist said that she was taught an hour of menopause herself 25 years ago like you said like syra and she was shocked that some students are still getting the same amount today and described it as bonkers the researchers found that women experiencing menopause symptoms often misdiagnosed and offered antidepressants instead of hrt which we know right um dr olivia hendrix who led this groundbreaking research said there was a study done in 2002 that alluded that hrt caused cancer it's been debunked but i think that doctors are still hung up on that and maybe that was the only one they were taught when they did their degree there is a lot of medical misogyny going on with women going through the menopause she added they are not being listened to they're being invalidated and told that they are wrong even when they're requesting certain treatments like hrt they are being denied it and sometimes being outright told that the doctors don't know how to prescribe it so we'll just prescribe you an antidepressant
Speaker 4instead oh my god oh my god and in the meantime these poor women are having to come out of the workplace because they're not coping and they're not getting on with their partners their long-term partners they're friendships are declining they can't go out the house they don't want to like they're losing themselves in and amongst all of their hormones draining out of their body yeah all they need is some proper support yeah yeah it's
Speaker 5it's shocking it also can we say we've been on 50 of the population it's not like you're dealing with a niche niche amount of people yes yes 50 yes i know we'll 100 go through it
Speaker 4right yeah oh i know right i know it's maddening it really as glennon doyle says if you're not angry you're not paying
Speaker 5attention it really made me cross that okay second thing was aren't you watching youth on hba max no it is the new sharon horgan show oh yes i love sharon it's been impossible to miss because she's on so much promo for the show it's kind of everywhere i have watched two episodes it's absolutely brilliant so it's sharon horgan all over does she write it yes yes yes and yes okay so she found herself single and divorced as she was about to turn 50 so she basically did what all good writers do and she made a show out of it made a show out of it um it's called youth she plays the role of alex she's a divorced sandwich generation woman trying to date whilst being caught between her job as a literary agent her teenage son who's like bunked off uni basically started uni and left and her aging parents and then she puts herself under a lot of pressure to find a partner before she's too old whatever too old might be um and it is called youth because um people in their 50s say that the 50s is the youth of old age oh i like that do you yeah the youth of old age yeah i don't know anyway the critics went absolutely mad for this show yeah um the guardian said it's utterly hilarious the telegraph said it's painfully true and it is a portrait of midlife that is anything but mid it really is good it's a really good show i really recommend it all right i'm i'm
Speaker 4on i'm onto that you'll love it yeah asm and lady rose going away for the weekend in a couple of weeks maybe i'll save it for that weekend and i plan to not leave the house okay well also slow
Speaker 5horses is back yeah we started watching it last night loving that so much yeah jealous on bake off i don't think i've ever been so happy as i was last tuesday i sat on the sofa i was like this is this is everything i've ever wanted in the world it's nigella and bake off in one show together all in one place i'm just i felt so happy in that moment and you know what that is not cool okay i'm gonna give you the last my last new story of the week this will also come as no surprise to you the menopause supplement industry is basically the wild west that is the headline it is predicted that the global market for menopause supplements is due to reach 25 billion dollars by 2030 but a new review published in climacteric and that sounds like a fun publication found there is a significant variation in the ingredients and prices of supplements available in the uk less than half the products contain vitamin d and calcium which are basically the only things you actually need in menopause for your bone health those are the real ones senior author professor joyce harper says that menopause can cause symptoms that affect daily life the supplement market is growing rapidly despite limited scientific evidence that many of these products improve symptoms the menopause gold rush is growing as companies realize midlife women are an important consumer market for products such as supplements social media influencers promote these products as effective solutions despite many claims not being supportive of the health of menopause in menopause for your bone health it is reported by scientific evidence it's not good is it right but
Speaker 4that's the same with all supplements that's not just the menopause space but i know they've just made a new space out of it
Speaker 5and also they think midlife women have got a higher disposable income so they can afford to buy oh it's totally exploitative it's really bad there is limited research available to substantiate the efficiency of many menopause supplements they said these researchers identified 201 different products available to purchase but there was no single ingredient or even a category of ingredient that was common across all of the products they varied in price ranging from 1 pound 50 a month to 95 pounds a month with little evidence as to the effectiveness of even the most expensive ones do you take any supplements i've stopped completely since i started hrt i now take zero supplements all i do is between october and april i take vitamin d but even now i listen to a whole podcast with chris van talleken who's said that actually you don't even need that but don't you remember
Speaker 4when we got all our bloods done at welbeck and our vitamin d was fine because we're outside every day yeah through the roof
Speaker 5it wasn't through the mine was that's what she said she said it's through the roof she said most people in the uk because of our terrible weather though we've had amazing weather this year theirs is not good i mean it's just i mean i take i
Speaker 4literally take creatine yeah um which helps me enormously with my aches and my pains and muscle recovery and all of that and i take i drink an electrolyte every day and sometimes if my sleep is a little bit disturbed i take magnesium just before i go to bed but that is that's it yeah because the rest of it really you can get through a healthy diet and i'm lucky enough to have access to a healthy diet as are you and i think if you eat leafy greens and you eat your fruits and veg and you eat some proteins and you eat your carbs and you have a nice balanced diet then really you should be getting everything from that
Speaker 5yeah the british menopause society emphasizes the importance of a healthy diet oh there you go and regular exercise for some women ensuring a balanced diet will provide most of the vitamins and minerals found in menopause
Speaker 4supplements thank you thank you and i do find now that i am post-menopausal i have to be so careful with what i eat in terms of like if i eat loads of sugar i just get so bloated now there's just certain changes that my body is just not massively coping with and i just don't want to feel lethargic and bloated and shit and just know just know anyway that's our show that was cool was it maybe you are cool well you're cool to me you're cool to me thanks maybe we should ask the ceo found you cool i don't
Speaker 5think the ceo is going to even remember our five minute exchange yes he would why wouldn't he well because he probably meets 1800 000 people a day during his rounds in his very important job rounds this
Speaker 2episode is brought to you by netflix's new series east of eden a bold reimagining of john steinbeck's masterpiece following generations of the trask family through love betrayal and the choices that shape humanity starring mike feist and christopher abbott as the trask brothers and florence pew as kathy ames the heroine determined to build the life she wants no matter the cost watch east of eden now only on
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Speaker 5was doing the rounds of the studio he was coming to the guy was showing the studio off he was obviously looking to hire the studio
Speaker 4for something yeah we don't know we'll never know no but i would like to know what the weed was oh he said
Speaker 5it grows in everybody's garden and it's a weed that you would normally just throw up in the garden and it has changed this kid's life he said the kid was very depressed very down and it completely turned this kid around taking this very common did he put it in a tea yeah this very very common garden weed that grows in you've got like nothing special yeah yeah i don't know what it was i bet we could google it he said he will message us with it well how will he psychically know our phone number unless you slipped it in his pocket no but you could you could you could get in touch no i won't be doing that but the listeners no the series is reading i do
Speaker 4want to know what that
Speaker 5weed was okay but the listeners could get in touch with us hello at 40ish.co.uk nice they can dm us thank you so seamless they can dm us on instagram at 40ish.podcast very nice you can come join us on substack oh yeah midlife club you've got to come and join us come be a founding member of the chico before a month something like that yeah um and you'll get all the links to everything mentioned
Speaker 4great thanks and that's cool we'll be that is that is cool we'll be back next week see you then bye
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