216 - Kandahar Giant, Roswell & The Greatest Deception in Human History

This week on ninjas are butterflies ancient structures scattered across this planet mysterious giants in discoveries That can rewrite everything we know about human history then nearly for 80 years the truth about Rosswell's been buried But our guests are returning but our returning guests stop it quit laughing on the mic, but our returning guest L.A. Marzouli But our returning to what you cut it out the punch in the face. I'm gonna punch you in the face But our returning guest L.A. Marzouli has brought something interesting into the studio something he claims came directly from the crash site I'll be at her in a final And finally the government is slowly revealing what it knows about UFOs But what if disclosure isn't the end of the mystery what if it's the beginning of the greatest deception in human history and what if We've been preparing for this entire time all that more on this week's episode of ninjas our butterfly This podcast is brought to you empowered by sunday cool watch this or listen or listen You not just let me have a line or listen or listen or listen Little muggy, it's so muggy. Yeah, it's nasty. I can't wait because I'm sweating. I already I'll take my pants off Gotta get the breeze in here So I put my finger Okay, all right ladies and gentlemen L.A. Marzouli is back in the bell Ninjas of butterflies to the sequel. We're running it back. I told him I want to start calling Uncle L.A. I think that makes sense. I know it's we I mean we have on the sand. We have on the L.A. No, hey guys doing. Yeah, it's great Last time you are on the people people loved it people absolutely loved it I think what do you say there's a second most viewed episode that we've done? Wow that's a real honor. Yeah, so that's your honor It's an honor for us. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, we're psyched to have you back. Yeah, do you like dogs? I love dog Okay, well, I got all ten of them out They're all stinky for those who are wondering what the weather's like here in Florida. It's like If you're to put a sweaty smelly socks in an oven. Yes, and then jump in the oven. Yes It's it's the worst. Yeah, it's pretty rough. It's the beginning of October, which we had a week Where he was chilly it was raining and it felt great We're like oh false here and then suddenly Nope, it was a joke the whole thing was a joke. So that's that was how are we are as like 102 degrees today? Which is really a typical were you at well in the Santa Monica mountains? Okay, yeah, in the Malibu, but in the Valley huge fire No Santa Ana's no Santa Ana's and that's when all the pyros come out so we're okay. Yeah, yeah, but still oh Yeah, it's so so so so scary. I remember as a kid we were lived in Ramona, California Yeah, yeah, you're familiar with that. Yeah, and I remember vividly as a kid there was the fires there and just how Devastating it was I mean you'd go into the grocery store or come back out and your whole car would just be covered in ash Mm-hmm. Like it would just be wild. Yeah, we lost our home in the 2018 fire. Oh, geez. I mean everything everything everything gone awful Yeah, but though, but the Lord restored it so it was really cool. What happened? Yeah, that's cool Like a phoenix rising from the ash. How do I do? Yeah L.M. R. Zooley, you know, your beard's gotten I don't know another six inches. I know it's growing. You know, I've got a good. I've got overcompensate. I'm losing I lost everything. So can I have some too? We're just making a joke about going to Turkey because you know, they have the new known stuff But also getting a hair trance hair trance plan. Yeah, that's the place to go is turkey. Yeah, so he's gonna donate some follicles Go around the office. Yeah, why not? Yeah, this is my Filipino patch Oh, man, now you've got we've we've had the rungs of disclosure here in the studio before but now This is the new revise an expanded version. So what what can people expect to if they've already got the original What should they expect when getting well? It's revised and expanded. I mean What happened was is we the first edition we went up to run number 17 and then since then we're up to run number 30 and And they're not letting up You know, Congress David Grush. I mean, all these people are yeah, you know It's it's happening and we've got crashed craft. We've got not even biologics You know all this all this stuff is going down and it's what I see is it it's like an acceleration and I think the top rung Is when Trump stands up and this is another run and apparently they've got a speech now this is all here say so who knows Allegedly, he's got a speech all set and ready to go true Trump. So he stands up on Friday night So he's on a Friday night and says we're not alone in the universe. So what do you do with that? What do you do with that? Yeah, you know, how does that affect the church and in my opinion it affects a lot? Yeah Yeah, especially people's people's response to it is gonna it's gonna affect them So the church must have a response or at least hopefully a unified one, right? I mean There's a scripture which to me is very telling and it's in the book, but it's first him first Timothy chapter 4 verse one and It's this the spirit especially states that the latter days some Will depart from the faith giving heed that's reducing spirit some a doctrine of demons. So if you're a Calvinist Oh, I'm once they've always say the mature. I'm in it's I'm not going anywhere, right? No way I'm moving off this rock. That's it But if you're an Arminian, you go well, I got free will you can walk away So they've been worrying on these two theological points for centuries Yeah, so I call myself a Calvinian so I don't offend anybody The problem is the spirit Expressly says that some will depart and then Jesus warns us that memory from fear for was coming upon the earth What the heck is that right? You know, even if elect will be deceived if that were possible because the powers of heaven will be shaken I mean, we're looking at something that's unprecedented and it's happening now in my opinion and my church differs the church for the most part And I love the church, but there is sleep and they don't we were just Jesus only we don't want to be talking about the stuff We're just Jesus only so let's go to be Jesus only man fame for fear was coming upon the earth be like a days of Noah When I return and when the days of Noah everybody knew he's talking about two thousand years ago Yeah, there was no Sethite theory that said the sons of God were the Godly line of Seth and the women with a hoochie mama's the cane. It's not there. No, but nobody was talking about that stuff Yeah, so they look for that in the Bible. There's no who she know. No, there is no Anyway, I mean, that's the thing now that got me in trouble when I was googling it It's only told me about it Speaking of hoochie mama, should we sing a song? Oh, yeah, Ellie. Do you want a song? I'd love to hear a song The first one around the house all the time. That's scary Hopefully like this one. This one's you have a genre in mind that you'd like anything. I'll just leave that up to you guys. Okay, all right. Okay. I got His favorites rap. I got my part. Okay. All right. Cool. Yo, you know, I'll be hey. All right. We'll go there It's got the big dog out. We'll see. We'll just make sure we heard you shredding in your earlier. Yeah We were gonna be old Beatles song. That's fun. Yeah, that's really cool We can go we can deep dive into them as well. We've got some ritualistic stuff We didn't hear it. I can hear it. Oh, yeah, yeah Imagine what that's Doing I couldn't be doing anything to our bodies Josh Can you turn my ears down a little? How's your audio LA? It's a little hot, but it's okay Turn down a little bit. You got my hairy gauge. And what? We would go now Twenty kids they can hear it Look to the ground now look to the sky if that's what they're ballooned and so in mind Giants in the dirt lights flying by Genesis six baby open your eyes. A woke up Monday. Everything was fine. Tuesday night. There's a sauce So resigned when say morning got a knock at the door six finger door and he's eight foot forward Genesis six better open that book L.A. walk in and said take a look Giants watchers watch that's now. That's a red head giant underground Big school long head something ain't right. Something's doing donuts in the sky y'all night government said nothing to see L.A. says explain that to me L.A. what? Yeah, it's L.A. My Julie L.A. what? Yeah, it's L.A. My Zoolie thinking of the past like an agent who are moving you know his name L.A. My Zoolie I got nine pounds and a nepholim's one ancient world palms and we're having some fun Smith Sony's sweating somebody hit right L.A.'s in the phone. He brought it to the one Did he in the drones with the Bible in his backpack? We had seen tools in this year months. That's just miss Sony puts on the phones when they miss L.A. says come and date this you know his name is L.A. My Zoolie. You know he's been worse and it knows it cuz it feels me Looks at the corpse and says that's a hoax Take it for the truth to the day that he crops funny in the ground. That's 10 feet tall. This ♪ Pick up the phone, give LA a call ♪ ♪ Demons, run, hide, whisper, send his name ♪ ♪ Nethwo, no, we ain't playing no games ♪ ♪ LA, what, yeah, sellin' my Zooli ♪ ♪ LA, what, yeah, no, it's LA, my Zooli ♪ ♪ Diggin' up the bass like an agent ♪ ♪ Or a movie, you know his name ♪ ♪ LA, my Zooli ♪ (clapping) - I got to have a copy of that. - I got it. - I got to have a copy of this, geez. - Oh my God. - I was a little more than messed up. I got a little tongue tie. - I messed up a tongue tie. - Smith-Sony and Sweatin' is a very hard thing to say very fast. - Smith-Sony and Sweatin' is. - Smith-Sony and Sweatin. - Deffy-Duck. - Yeah, it does sound like it. - Oh, man. - Yeah, keep that all right, you saw this. - Yeah, it was really great. - Look at that. - This says loud environment. (laughing) - Please exit the loud environment. - Thinkin' the house down. - Oh, man. - Oh, that was fun. - That was a blast. - That was fun. - Unfortunately, I think the fun's over. - What? - We just started. We just got here. We haven't seen LA in a long time. - I know. - I know Uncle LA is here, but we can't move on. - Oh, is it time for them? - I can only imagine where this is going to go. - I hope it's not going anywhere. - I just love this. - I just love this. - I hope not either, 'cause he seems like he's in a pretty good mood. - I mean, last time I remember your opinions on giants. - Don't get us started on. In the amazing football team that they are and you're just just being ruthless, yeah. So I mean, there's a really, I don't think there's a trick question to this question. - No, let's give 'em a layup. - All right, yes or no, can't elaborate. Again, we don't make the rules. - Which we did. - I wish we did, but we don't. Uncle LA, today's question is sent in by a viewer. Do pyramids hold ancient knowledge that we should learn? - One more time? - Sure. - No problem. - Do pyramids hold ancient knowledge that we should learn? - Yes. - Oh. - I, okay. - I don't even know what to do. How long have we been doing this nine minutes or so? That was fun. - Thanks, thanks Uncle LA for coming. - Nice press. - That was, oh my goodness. - And early dinner, let's go, John. - Of course, LA, we're talking about pyramid schemes. - Yeah, obviously. - The ancient practice of pyramid schemes. (laughing) The practice that has just ruined lives, Andy. - My great aunt was, her house was taken because of a pyramid scheme. - And then she died. - And she died right after. - At a very old age. - And the last thing she said. She said, dang those pyramid schemes. - Dang those pyramid schemes. I hope no one says we should learn from them. - Absolutely. - It's an art quick question. - Yeah, like guys are unbelievable. - Billions of dollars. - Billy, I Googled it today. How many people have lost money? - How many, Josh? - Billions. Billions of people, LA. - I can't even comprehend that amount of people. - Yeah, it's impossible. - It's literally impossible to put it in number to it. - You can't. - You can't. - And they tried, they can't. - They can't. - Because it's a pyramid. - It's a pyramid. You can't even see the top of it of how far it goes. - Well, I guess you guys heard here first. LA wishes you would lose your home to a pyramid scheme. - And he thinks it's funny. - Welcome to the show. - Can I save Ninja? - I meant- - Wonderful. - Can you slow down when I've got- - Oh my gosh. - I said empty your mind. - You were- - What's your heart? - Fuckin' Johnson! (laughs) - Thanks, guys, yeah. - Dude. - I'm firing myself. It's my job every week to hit that thing. - And you missed it. - Every week. - Can we try to hit two? - Yeah. - Do the gas like that. - It's still almost a little way to that. (laughs) - I was like. - Oh man. We got a lot to dive into today. - We gotta talk about- - We gotta talk about disclosure. - Paramets. - We've been seeing a lot of stuff about people talking about Lidar and America, dude. - Lidar and America? - Yeah. - Just like the pyramids that are found with the only river banks and stuff. It's crazy. Like it's just nuts. - Yeah, so since we- - You've last been on, which was- - How long ago? - About a year? - About a year. - Over a year, yeah. - What's been going on? Why have you any new, fun discoveries? - Well, number nine on the trail of the Nephilim, which should be out in a couple of months. I reshot a lot of the footage. And we actually have a guy. He's a Shawnee chief that came on the record, which was really cool. - Yeah, that's me. - And he looked right at the camera and said, "We didn't do this. "We didn't build these mountains. "We're 100 gathers. "We're too busy about what are we gonna do for winter?" - Yeah. - Right? I mean, that's what they're, but, you know, mainstream archeology and, you know, the thing that really irks me more than anything is our work that we did on the DNA, the paraka skulls. Were the only people on the planet that's ever done that? You know, allegedly, Guy has set down two guys, but they haven't published any. We have a film, we have a book, all this stuff. And it rewrites history. And what I mean by that, these skulls are thousands of years old 'cause we did C-14 testing, carbon-14. And the DNA shows a Middle Eastern European connection. Well, that rewrites history. Oh, you're super saw, you know, you're pseudo-scientists, you know, it's all contaminated. And that's what we get, excuse me, there were 28 samples of sequence, out of the 58 we took, out of the 28, 18 of them showed that Middle Eastern connection. And then we've got archeologists, anthropologists, surgeons, medical doctors, chiroprackers. I mean, just a whole group of people looking at these things, going, this is genetic, this is genetic, this is genetic. So it, the reason why I think the Kabach comes down is because it points back to the validity of scripture. The Nephilim, and they don't want to go there. So that's kind of frustrating on some part, but this will be, nine will be the, I don't have a title for it. But let me just wet your appetite. There are sites in Europe. Let me back up. America Stonehenge, ancient site, about 4,000 years old. So if there's a stone there, and the stone was in the Chamber of Ruins. And so when they were doing an archeological dig in the Chamber of Ruins, because it's collapsed, they found this stone, about this big. It's got writing on it. No one could decipher the writing. It lay in the museum for 11 years. So if it's a hoax, oh, this guy's cleaning up, is he? So if things lay in the museum for 11 years, right? And no one can read it. And so they, they get this guy by the name of Professor Barry Fell from Harvard. He comes out, looks at the stone. I think it's Iberian Punic. I think I can translate it. It's Iberian Punic. Iberian Punic. And yeah, I mean, who could read, who could read it? Well, Iberia is the Spain, that whole deal, right? So Punic is a form of ancient, ancient writing. Oh, very cool. Back like 4,000 years. Sorry, guys, let me get a slurp. So you're good, you're good. A slurp. Punic, you're a fun word. Yeah, it seems like a derogatory term. Iberian Punic. That was good. So, so he translates it, and I, and this is all in film. I've got a little Osmo camera. I'm with the grandson, Kelsey Stone, and he said, where do these Kelsey? Oh, these are the stones that we find with the writing. What's that one? Oh, that's was translated by Barry Fell, it's an Iberian Punic. Oh, really? So what does it say? And he just goes off to coffee, goes to ball of the Canaanites and dedication. No way, no, and you hear me in the film. I'm going like this. I'm going like, what did you just say? I can't believe what I just, any kind of giggles nervously, and he goes, so on, film. And he goes to ball of the Canaanites and dedication. I go, you got to be kidding me. We take the stone out, now we're filming with this thing. So this is in Spain or this? The stone was found in New Hampshire, that America's Stonehenge. What's that doing there? And it's written in Iberian Punic to ball the Canaanites and dedication. Are you flipping kidding me? Yeah, how did I miss the American? I sold that out too, but that's insane. Yeah, completely. It rewrites everything. And of course, it's a hoax and someone just did that. Great hoax, right? You're making tons of money off this thing, right? Nonsense. So where it doesn't make sense is why would a hoax be kept in the museum for 11 years? And until someone deciphered it, well, now it fits a different narrative. Yeah, so now we'll bring it out, right? Now they want us to be a hoax. It's just absurd. So Kelsey Stone, same guy, right? Kelsey Stone went on Google Earth. Now there's the America's Stonehenge. So here's the center of the hands. Let's say right here, all around it are these standing stones, standing stones. And when you stand here, the summer solstice sunrise comes in right over the stone. So you're standing here looking at it. Sun comes down, sits right on that stone. So Kelsey Stone goes, well, yeah, I wonder where, I wonder if I draw a line on Google Earth from the center of my hands out to the standing, I wonder where it will go? Just inquisitive kid. He's like 23 years old at this time. He's like 30-something now. And so he draws the line on Google Earth. And it's kind of cool. And now he's over Nova Scotia, Maine, Nova Scotia. Atlantic Ocean. And he just keeps following the line, just keeps extending it. And he extends a little further and he's in Ireland and now he's in southern England. And he says to himself, gee, I wonder how close this line comes to Stonehenge England. There are two triathons, they're like this in the circle at Stonehenge, two triathons like this. That line comes in dead center above for them. Oh, he smokes a triathlon. Two pillars with a capstone on top. And these are the tonnage on those things are amazing. Like a gate, exactly. So the fact that this, there you go right there. That's it. That's the sacrificial table. Wow. We have two films on this, America's Stonehenge. It's a mine. And it's in the Americas. It's in New Hampshire. So what the heck is that doing there? So, of course, to me, that is one of the most astounding archaeological discoveries of a 21st century. That should be, people should be, and people have, they've tripled checked it and quite, triple checked it. It's there. You can do it yourself. Go right on Google Earth and do it. And it's in Salem. I missed it somewhere. Forgive me for asking again because I'm sure you said it. But the trajectory for him going from American Stonehenge, how he drew that line? How did he get that? Like, what was the catalyst for that? The catalyst is the standing stone. Yep. Right. So the sun. So who takes a three or five or six tonne stone and puts it like this with absolute precision. So when the sun comes down and sets, it's right over that. And then the wine drew from the center of the edge out of a summer solstice standing stone and all the way out. Okay. So now I know that. Yeah. So and then by the way, in the film, we show this that those standing stones around America, Stonehenge, depending on where you, which, where you want to go, it goes to Chaco Canyon, Machu Picchu, the Canary Islands, the Great Pyramid of Giza, of course, Stonehenge. Oh, what a coincidence, right? No, it's not. There's a connectivity. And the only way you can do this is to be up in the sky and triangulating because you have to know the curvature of the earth, it's not flat, curvature of the earth, you have to triangulate, we're looking at advanced trigonometries, what you're looking at. So I know that you asked me about, well, the film we're working on, no one knows what we know. Nobody. It's my discovery. I'm boasting, but it's my discovery. So we were on, over overseas at different sites and I went on Google Earth. I'm following the footsteps of Kelsey. My wife was looking, don't tell him, don't tell him. I won't, honey, don't worry. Our secret is safe. So after the show, okay, I'll tell you how. So the, these sites line up to another site in the Americas with absolute precision, absolute precision. And this will be revealed. And most, you know, most people are just going to go, well, who cares? So what? Excuse me, excuse me. It shows that there's this ancient civilization that was here, that was global, that was all, somehow was all connected, were they gateways, were they portals? You don't know. Credibly civilized. Like the knowledge is, oh, it's, that's all the truth. We can do it now, but, you know, we've got satellites so we can try and do it and all that stuff, but then how was it done? Oh, they had, you know, Vamanas, they had UFOs even back then. So that's what I'm working on. That's so fun. Can we guess what it is? She takes factory. Can you say hot or cold? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You take the first guess. Oh, I have no idea. Okay. I'm just going to say, let's do some spooky Washington, DC. No. Okay. In the Americas. Yes. Okay. Geez. I was trying to thank Bucky's like the Cahokia stuff. The Bucky's headquarter right to the beef. You're getting, you're getting, you're getting, what did you say? Yeah. Cahokia. Mike is a Cahokia. Dude, we talked about, that was like early podcast. We were talking about the natives. And then I found the connection of the, like, Munein people and, I thought, I thought it was an old wooden tree. The Munein people, right? Grey's. Yeah. Munein people, the Grey's. But, but they are, but it's an ancient site on in America, known ancient site, Serpent Mountain. That's all I know. That's what you're close. Is it northern? Yeah. I don't want to do the rest of the podcast. I can show you after the podcast, but you have to, you have to square. You have to square. We got bottles in here. We'll do it. That's what we're doing. I'll show you. Okay. All right. We won't tell you guys unless you subscribe to our Patreon. Dang. That's fascinating. I mean, because that's, that's interesting that it was like the, the stone, the writing on it was like the, what did you say against the Iberian punic? Iberian punic. I mean, people read Iberian punic. But it's there. And the late Barry Fell, Harvard professor translated it to Bala, the Canaanites, and dedication. I mean, they didn't even know what that was. Oh, you know, okay, Bala, they had no idea that it tied him with a Nephilim. You know, ties him with our theory that there was a diaspora when Joshua and Caleb comes into the Promised Land and starts, it's not genocide. I got this from Judd Burton. It's giant side. And so they start, there's a diaspora. They, they flee the Promised Land. That's where you get that steal, they, commercials of Africa, we are they who fled from the face of Joshua, the robber was son of none. And it's recorded by Apricopius, the Roman historian. So all that's legit. And, and they just, they just went like this. They fled, but they set up shop wherever they went, wherever they went. Do you think the connections? Do you think it's why we have so many similar ancient sites all over the world is because of potentially the Canaanite people? Nephilim tribes. And here's something to think about. It seems like they're allowed to set up shop for a period of time. And then something happens, something dramatic happens and they're gone. Like when you go to TOT Wakano, I've only been there one time and you just sit there, you go, because it's the largest pyramid on the earth. It's the largest pyramid. It's not as high as Giza, but it's bigger than Giza. That's one in South, or Mexico, Mexico City. I just out there, just, I couldn't even look at it. And they don't even know who built them. They call them the TOT Wakanos. They just make up a name. Yeah, make up a name. And all this alignment stuff and this whole complex and then, and you hear this, and this is what's interesting. Every place I've ever been, I hear the same story. Well, we don't know who these people were or really what they call themselves, but they just assimilated into the indigenous culture, drum roll, please, because of climate change. Oh, really? Where's Al Gore when you need him? So Keral, South America, in Peru, the oldest city in the Americas, over 5,000 years old. That's what you hear exactly the same thing. Go over to the island of Gozo, out in the Mediterranean, right? Same thing. Say, well, you don't know what these people were or where they came from, but they did this, that and the other thing. They just make stuff up. We're saying that there was a diaspora because this whole megalithic structure that you see, it disappears. And then from stone, it goes to dirt. And then from dirt, just vanishes. But these sites, like you mentioned, the serpent noun, highly charged. You know who Henry Grover is? Well, we've talked about that name. Why do I know that Steve Kuala? Let us use the interview that he did with Henry Grover. Grover was, he's passed away now, but he would go to these ancient, ancient sites, all in Ohio and all these places. So he's going home on Thanksgiving night, right? That night before Thanksgiving. And he sees a sign on the freeway, serpent noun. So he says to himself, well, I'll just go and pray over that and take care of it. So Henry gets it, you know, pulls over, pulls in the parking lot. Nobody's there. It's not before Thanksgiving. Nobody places empty. So he walks and I've been here like three or four times. So he gets out of the car, walks across the parking lot and gets to gets to the serpent noun, follows it, goes up on the head, prays, you know, breaks the curses, does this whole thing, right? Turns around getting ready to walk back. He's hit in the solar plexus within an invisible force. Down he goes. He can't move. He's paralyzed. His knees are up to his chest. He can't move, paralyzed. And he's like laying there in pain. And he's praying to the Lord, you know, and uh, Lord's not answering. He's rebuking, doing everything he knows in his real house. Lord's not answering. And it starts to snow. And I've seen this before. It starts to snow. And Groover is laying and snow is accumulating. And now he's getting covered with snow. He's thinking of himself. They're going to find me here frozen in the morning. And then the Lord speaks and he said, I'm going to release you, Henry, but you came here without me telling you to come here that you did this on your own volition. Can't, can't be doing that. So he gets released and Henry goes back and he tells us the story and it's, we use it one of our films. These sites are highly charged, hey, highly charged and good to keep away from probably. Well, you can go and you can go and listen. You are. You get prayed up before when we were there. The last time was a separate mountain. It was the uh, it was the spring equinox. There was a covenant of witches over there. there. Cool. Oh, yeah. I wonder what they're doing there. Yeah. Hey, ladies, it's a serpent mound. Yeah, they know they know exactly what it is. It's who they serve. That's where they were there. It's just their big day. Oh, man. I'm going to kind of take a little bit of a turn. But that was good. Sorry. Try try to get in the little like little more engine. Okay, but you're like the first one. You know, you just can't please everybody. What is it? You can try though. So you're like can a hard giant big, big part of what you do, breaking that story. And I wanted to get your reaction to his name's Devon Lair on the Joe Rogan show. When Joe Rogan, the Canadian arm wrestle, arm wrestler, he talks to beat him a couple times. But I thought that was crazy. He's on the show. And he's like, I've seen giant, like, you know, warlords over there. And then he talks about coming back to your bridge from, um, from Europe to the Americas had me think about like where the Neflon may have run and his experience in doing arm wrestling, arm wrestling training, going to Canada, encountering these people. He describes these native Canadians as being eight foot tall plus maybe nine foot tall indigenous people. Yeah. Indigenous people into them. They're, it's just normal, but they don't talk about it. And I'm like, if you had, you know, some diaspora, you hadn't fled, you wouldn't be, you know, you'd be pretty low profile about it. And so like the corners of the earth makes sense. I was wondering if you had any, uh, any thoughts on one, the interview with Rogan, but then kind of what he expounded on it. Well, Tim Alberino was talking about that with the giants. He talked about it. And there are two separate giants. Quail and I got together. Um, and we bought his, his guy and we bought my shooter and my, the guy that, that we interviewed, there's actually two, some guy just did a hit piece on us on the candle heart thing and Steve Quail's giant. I mean, they're, you know, on YouTube and, but he didn't, you know, he acts like he's, you know, the gatekeeper. And he is. It's his show. I get that. But we had two witnesses. We had one, the shooter that was there and the shop, this thing. And then we have the second witness who was there at the candle heart base about two years afterwards. And the buzz was everywhere. And he weren't supposed to talk about it. And they're doing cave training and the instructors going, now if you're in a cave, you want to shoot, I, and this guy goes, what do you mean shoot? I, why am I shooting? I, how about, no, just trust us, just shoot. I, and that's, that's two witnesses. And those are in the film. Since then, I've had two more witnesses come. One was a guy embedded special forces. And he was dispatched today or the day, a second day after the killing. They went back to the cave. This is what he told me. He said they went in. And let me just back up. I was at a conference and this was set up by the person setting up the conference. This whole thing because this person went in to the pastor and basically cleansed his soul. He had done stuff. So he was burdened down. And so the pastor arranged so we would sit next to each other at lunch and we talk shop. Because I know stuff that's never been, you know, so we talk shop. And the bottom line was this, they went back to the cave where the Candahar giant allegedly came out of and they went in and there were three more in there. And there was a firefight. They killed one, the ever two, and you're going to know exactly where I'm going with this. What does Sasquatch do? They appear, they disappear, they appear, they disappear, the ever two, just disappear. This is the guy that was stationed this the pastor. Yeah, this, he was the guy that came in afterwards. And I got it. I mean, it's a tall story. I mean, how do you prove any of this stuff? But we've got, that's the third witness, the fourth witness came on my show. And his grandmother was the witch of Candahar. Now, can I prove that? No, I can't. I mean, I could trace it down and try to go to Candahar. Excuse me. Are you the witch of Candahar? You know, but it's a weird thing to claim. It really is. But my mother, the witch of Candahar, you're going to love it. Trust me. But she had tattoos on her forehead. You know, demonic stuff. Sorry. Woo. Is this an attack? What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. Lord, please. So, she would bring goats and other animals to the cave entrance or near the cave entrance and stake it out. Now, why is he making this stuff up? And he heard the story from his father and his father was from the Candahar pride. That's where we grew up. So, you know, you get all this stuff. And the naysayers who were anti-supernatural oil, that's a can happen. And it's, you know, exascoach is just another ape. You know, it's a, it's a, it's a hominid that we don't know. Excuse me. The supernatural world is real. And the following one is messing with the genome. How do we know that? The book of Enoch tells us this. Yeah. You know, he's in the, against the animal kingdom. Chimeras are real. Centars, Minotars, Fonds. They are real. They ruin the earth at one period of time. And after the flood. So, and then Jesus warns us to be like a days and Noah. Why would he say that? You know, the angel tells Daniel. That's why, you know, you go back to the whole thing. Jesus only, you know, the spirit of Presley states, latter days, some will depart from the faith. That's Jesus only. Second Thessalonians, because they did not believe the truth. God sends them strong delusion. What's the strong delusion? Everything we're looking at right now. Yeah. And we are on the fast track. I'm going from Candleheart to UFO, but we're on the fast track to some kind of disclosure. We really are. And I find that very alarming. Well, it's interesting. You say that. David Grush was just on Joe Rogan. I don't know. Did you watch that episode yet? But I know about very insane wild claims. I mean, wild claims like stuff that to me, it just seemed fishy. But I mean, he was talking about this one story where it was these basically two UFOs, one of them being grays, one of them being reptilians fighting and fighting and then crashing. And then the US military fighting and shooting these reptilians seven foot tall reptilians. Another Tuesday. At what point can we like, wow, that's, that's either like a true story or it's a complete weird, sigh out propaganda piece. Like how in your lion profession, how do you, I mean, obviously the Holy Spirit helps with discernment, but like from a practical standpoint, how do you kind of weed out discernment with that stuff? With stuff like that, I call it. I put it on the back burner. Just put it on the back burner. I know about it. Put it on the back burner. Do I run with it? I might, I might show, I might say, Hey, this is what, you know, David Grush is saying and take with a grain of salt. But we know that they're, look, I have a, an informal call. His her name is dev. So she comes on. And she was a Christian. She's a Christian. And she was abducted when she was a Christian. So that blows a lot of stuff out of the water. Tim Alberino, I've talked about this. And Mando Gonzalez and I've talked about it and others. So she talks about, and she does this wonderful graphic, I can show it to you after you can use it. And there are four types, the graze, the tall whites, the reptilians, and the insectoids. And she's seen all four of them. And she drew them. She's like an artist, incredible artist. So she drew them. And they're there. So what do I think is going on? I think, and this is real problematic within the church. So there were well-meaning Christian brothers and sisters. Oh, it's all demonic. I don't think you can say that demons are the lowest, you know, at the bottom there are hybrid entities and demons over this and body spirits of a Nephilim. So they're hybrid beings, they're part human, part fallen angel. I get that. But if you're whole to the set fight theory, then all that goes out the window and good luck because you'll never, in my opinion, unless you understand Genesis 3, 15, have the proper exegesis of that, when you get to Genesis 6, you just left, well, I don't know what this is, right? So, and that's where most of the church is. So you have a Luciferian hierarchy. That's what this is. You've got Cosmocrotters, you've got Archons, you've got, you know, wickedness in high places, redifusion six demons are at the bottom. This is a well-oiled machine and it's a hierarchy. It's well-structured, very well-structured. Do you think they were fallen out of the kingdom of God or do you think they were? Yeah, we know. We know a third fell with Lucifer and that's not a 24 hour deal where, you know, all the angels are created on day, whatever, three and then day four they all rebel. Yeah, I'm tired of being this angel. Stop thumbing a rebel. What's rebellion? I don't know what we're going to do it. You know, and it makes no sense. The rebellion may have taken eons for the fallen charibur for Lucifer to round up everybody. What did he promise him? Okay, the Bible silent. It's conjecture in my part. I fully admit that. But something's going on there because there's a well-structured hierarchy and Ephesians six tells us in the kingdom of darkness the same thing in the kingdom of light. It wills. You know, what are watches? You got bad watches, right? And you got the good watches. Read the book of Daniel. Yeah. So it's a class. It's a structure. And to say demonic in my opinion, it's a very truncated view of the phenomena where you say Luciferian. Now you're encompassing tall whites, reptilians, and so sectozoids, grays, and the grays we've talked about this last time, in my opinion, of a disembodied, their meat suits, their avatars, because a disembodied spirit, a demon needs to inhabit something. So this is the deep end of the pool. I mean, it just is. And most of the church never talks about any of this stuff. So people are ignorant about it, but the supernatural world is real, totally real. And this stuff is going on. So when, you know, when, when David Grosch gets out and starts talking about the four, and I'll, I'll show you that afterwards, because we've got, you know, I'll show you what it looks like from Dev. She was there. They, they would, they would abduct her. They would take her. She go up through a ceiling wherever you're at that before. So that defies the laws of physics as we know them. But before I tell you what happens when she's on the ship, let's talk about defying the laws of physics. So if there's a guy in jail, not a good place to be, and they, they, he's chained the wall, and then the tea pops through, it doesn't come through the jail cell. Just pops through all of a sudden the chains fall off. Peter, you got it. What's that? What's that? Everybody switched off, you know, the door cell opens, they go about the prison door opens. Same thing. And it's, it's so similar to an abduction, so similar. So Dev would get abducted, go through the ceiling. She'd be up there. And, and I've heard this before with the room. There's a room aboard the ship and people are doing these tasks and Dev just wouldn't do it. She goes down, I'm out of here. And then they would throw her back on the bed. And she'd come through the ceiling back on the bed like that. And then a period of time to go by, she'd be taken again, always the same thing. Grace come into the room, make eye contact. They go for the ceiling. She finds herself in this forest, hiding behind a tree. There are, there's Sasquatch there. Really? Oh, yes. Sasquatch is there. The grays are there. The reptilians. I mean, the whole, so it's like, and this happened like three or four times that she's a, she's a Christian. That's why I ran with the story because there's an element in Christian thinking saying that, oh, if you're born again a spirit film and this can't happen, oh, really? Where does this say that? You know, rebuke first and ask questions later. I get that. The name of Jesus high above all other names. I totally get that. But it's stuff happens in the supernatural world. And I'm not sure why. And about that, you know, it hasn't, it hasn't happened to her until she came on the show. It hasn't happened again until she came on my show and, and confessed all this, confessed it, not confessed it, talked about it. What happened next was freaky. There were these window like things which appeared in the room. And in the window were, and I'll show you this, in the windows with this one guy who looked at her and said, you're my enemy. And then the windows just went like this and went back. So I mean, it's high strangers. I mean, I get that. What do we do with stuff like that? And it was she believes that this entity that she came in contact with was a fallen angel. Hmm. Well, yeah. I mean, fun, that happy note. I'll take a burger. No pickles, please. Quick, quick question. You said that the grays are meat suits. You said that demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim. Correct. Based on the book of Enoch and that the gray aliens then would be meat suits that those demons need to possess. Correct. You have a theory on where that meat suit is generated. Yeah, Satan's a super scientist. Again, we've got this truncated view. Who's, who's making these, these craft? Where do the craft come from? Yeah. Who's making these vast under cities, underwater cities, and our oceans, which go down miles? You know, who's constructing these things? Who's constructing the New Jerusalem? That's a, that's a good guy's. But, you know, yeah, God could blink his eyes. And there's, I don't think that's what I think they're building it. And it's at the end of the thousand years. It's got plenty of time before they, that thing descends. 1500 miles wide. And length, all that's just allegory. So if you're on the line list and on the line list and all this is allegory, it doesn't mean it's really no literal thousand years. There really is no literal, you know, New Jerusalem coming down. It's just, you know, nonsense. There's a literal New Jerusalem. And that baby is huge. Just think about the structural problems. You've got to expand 1500 miles. And then you've got some sort of levitation device because the guy's just not going doing and dropping this thing and killing millions of people. So it's got to come down in some way. Does that mean it can go back up again? I don't know. But I mean, 1500 miles wide? Oh, it's, maybe they got the numbers wrong. No, they didn't get the numbers wrong. And you can fit a whole bunch of people on that thing because it's 1500 miles wide. I'm a practical thing. Or where do you think? So you think maybe they're making the grays underwater in these cities. Organic matter. So good question. Yeah. Catamutylations. Okay. Genetic material from the catamutylations. We, we, in our film on catamutylations. And, you know, by the grace of God, there's 34 films and 16 books. So if it's a corpus to work, we've got some time to go through some of this. But it's, we're just scratching the surface. So we know that the whole catamutylation stuff really takes off around 1948, 1950. They were catamutylations before, but not like today. So a woman has taken Karen Wilkinson talks about this. And, um, and the third month of pregnancy, she's re-abducted. They come in and they take the hybrid fetus from her. But it needs to live somewhere. Okay. So hold that thought. They've come in and they've done the whole thing and they've taken the baby up. But the baby can't live outside the womb. So they have to create some sort of an artificial womb. Human blood can be used when treated in the human transfusion. I'm sorry cat. The bovine blood, the blood from cattle can be used in a human transfusion. Yeah. Maybe so that last time. So that, so now you got that. Then you got the genetic parts, you know, the utters, the sex organs, the stomach, the heart, the flesh around. And they're taking these things. Why? Because on my opinion, they're creating artificial wounds. And that's where the hybrid entities grow to the fullest. That's conjecture, but it makes a whole lot of sense. And, and we've got reports from abductees that have seen the vats heck the ex files that I show on this. Where the vats were there in this one room. And then when when when scully and, and, and, you know, everybody goes in to, to check it out, the room's been completely stripped. So I was leading. I was hoping he was going to say they were making them underwater with organic material decomposing down there. Because that would mean that the grays are just fish poop. I was trying and I was trying hard. Hopefully people do say they stink, smell like sulfur. It sounds like fish poop. It sounds like fish poop low tide. But we have our military fighting these things. That's what they're rushing saying. That's what he's saying. Like that's that's a scary thought that we have modern day military men going face to face with these aliens with a reptilian, a seven foot reptilian. They're what they claim. No, thank you. Joe Rogan, he was struggling a little bit with that. He's like, as anyone would. Yeah. Like as a normal person. I just, it seems very out of left field though. Because David Grush has been very reserved and quiet. Very much so. Yeah. Very much so. And then all of a sudden it's very professional, very elaborate stories. And it's just, to me, it's just strange. I don't know. Makes you skeptical. It does make me skeptical. And it's just, I mean, do you think he's like, okay, go ahead. Sorry. Well, I just, I, with everything that we've ever researched on this podcast conspiracy wise, government wise, it's just, it's, it's so hard to trust anything that comes out. And let you see it for yourself. Right. You got to be able to vet it. Yeah. So I don't know, because we hear a million things. And so if we believed every single thing, godly, I mean, like we wouldn't be have a thing to stand on. Okay. Roswell. Yeah. So there was a crash there. How do we know that? Just him or herself, senior. He's the Patsy. He's the Lee Harvey Oswell of uphology. So we go out, kills everyone, my business partner and I, along with Chuck Sikowsky, Frank Kim, where there are guys, we go out to the, the brieffield. So part of me is thinking, thinking to myself, we're going to see the crap that's still there. Of course not. Yeah. You know, there's that little 10 year old boy. Well, maybe it's still there. So we're there with metal detector. This is all in film. And according to Chuck Sikowsky, we're the only film company ever to show a piece of the metal going out. And I've got it here. You brought it with you. Yeah. What are you, what are you talking about? Like in your pocket? What are we talking about? I am sorry. I am. No, Peggy. Can you, can you open up the very front packet? Should we should we cliff hang this for an ad? Yeah, you should keep people here to say. Well, actually no, we'll show them right. There's that's it. Oh my goodness. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a new channel. So make sure you guys go subscribe, ASAP, and be at the forefront of something epic. Because guess what? Well, you know, like five years from now, we're going to be like, Hey, can you believe that we hit a billion views? I mean, a billion subscribers on Ninja's Butterfly's Clips channel. And then you could be the guy that says, I remember when I was like there, when you guys had like 500 subscribers, yeah, that's exactly what could happen. Yeah, because we're going to be sponsoring all types of clips. We have compilations. We've got some of your favorite clips in the podcast. We might do like fun compilations. Like what if we do it every song ever? We might do that video. We might do that to do that. That you, but you don't know unless you subscribe. So go here at Ninja's Butterfly's Clips. And it'll also be in the description down below. Appreciate you. Love you. Bye. and we're back. Alright, where's that piece of metal? Where's that piece of metal? What the end of the episode. That's right. All right. So you were, okay, at Roswell, he set it up again. Yeah. So we're at the, um, he went through Roswell with the idea, let's go to the debris field. Let's see what it looks like. And we had been there. We had two guys, a Frank's, yeah, Chuck Sukowski Frank and Frank Kimpler. And Frank had been out there, numerous times. So we're at the Roswell Museum and I'm interviewing Frank Kimpler. He's got this little display case thing and he opens it up and there were the pieces of metal that he's found and he's had them tested. So, and it was, it was pretty cool. And he's been out there numerous times. I mean, like a lot, a whole bunch of times out there. What did the tests come back as? I'll get to that. Okay. All right. So would you stop jumping again? Tell me everything right now. So we drive for about an hour outside of Roswell going north for lane road. Nothing to see here. Then we make a left hand turn on this country road. Now it's a two lane road in the middle of nowhere. Absolutely middle of nowhere. Nothing around, right? And we're driving. There's a farm way over here and bunch of cows over here. Then we make another left hand turn. And that's on a cattle road. Basically dirt with gravel on it. And there's, and there's just free range cattle wherever you look. Just like, you know, 100 cattle. Stop the car and the cattle come across them. That's what it was like. We're on that for about a half an hour. And if you don't know where the debris field is, you'll never find it. So we get there. Oh, yeah, you never find it. There's no sign. Roswell, debris field, not like that. And so it's a cattle gate and Frank gets out, opens the cattle gate. Now we're four wheeling up this thing like this. And we get to the top. And again, part of me is going like, oh, this is it. You know, we're going to, we're going to see the craft. Because this is little 12 hours. Yeah, I mean, it's just, I know I'm not, but I'm excited. And we get to the top of the hill and we look down and that's the debris field. That's it. A bunch of cow patties, rattlesnakes, we didn't see any, you know, shrubs, you know, the shop, not that real. Basically, you know, it's free range cattle. That's what's there. So we're out there. And Jim Peterson, our sound guy, second camera guy's there, Gil and myself. So we're by Chuck's pickup truck and Chuck's out there with the middle detector. And Frank Kim was out there with his middle detector. And they're not finding anything, nothing's happening. And so we pray, true story, true story. So we pray, Father, we come against anything that's happened here. We ask that you cleanse the land, but we'd also ask that you show us there's something here. And I'm a minute after the prayer, right? Frank Kimber goes, hey, guys, I got a hit. So the cameras are rolling and we're running like this and the cameras are bouncing up and down. And Frank's going, beep, beep, beep, put the metal detector. So there's something there. We don't know what it is. And he's got a little garden spade and he starts digging this thing out to see if he takes it out, puts it over there and puts the metal detector. No, it's not there. He does this for a period of time. It's all in film. And finally, we hear beep. So now we know it's out of the ground. Now he's taking the soil and he's going like this, sifting it and taking it and putting it next to the metal detector. Oh, nothing there. Okay. Got sure to that one goes like this. And he does this for a period of time. All in film. Finally, he realizes that he's got it in his hand. So now he goes like this and like this and looks at it and puts that one down. Now he's down and he's like this. And he goes, oh my gosh. And he picks it out. And it's not a coke bottle top. It's buried about six to eight inches down below. The metal is folded in on itself. And it bears, I'll get to that in just a second. So so here it is. This is what we found at the debriefing in the world. Can we hold it? Yeah. Can I swallow it? No, okay. I'm and we took it to a skating electron microscope. And the metal is all folded in on itself. It's like folded in on itself. And it's an aluminum alloy, but they don't know what I'll tell you what happened with that. So there's a machine that the metaler just had. You can put the sample in there and it will tell you what you're looking at. And it kept going, oh, it's this aluminum alloy and then it would go, no, it's this aluminum alloy. No, it's this aluminum alloy. It kept squiching. So she couldn't, she couldn't dial it in. And and I said to her, I said, well, let me answer something. What would cause this piece of metal to look like that? She had no idea where it was from. And she goes, well, like a crash or an explosion. Really? Oh, yeah. So there was no prep on her part. No, she had no idea what we were looking at. That's exactly dangerous to tell her. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And then we go, it's almost like you've been doing this investigation stuff for a while. No. What gave it away? So she goes, well, where did you get it? And I said, it came from the Roswell debris field. You know, one of one of those, you're kidding me. No, and she looked at it again. That's when the black SUVs pull up real quick. Pretty much, pretty much. So that's all we know about it. I would love to do isotopic ratio, but it'll destroy the piece. Yeah. Which is why I haven't done it yet. So yeah, are you, is there a next step for that that you're wanting to do? The isotopic ratio. Is there nothing else? Have you searched more of that area? Well, it was interesting. Yeah. What was interesting is that same day, Frank got another hit on his metal detector and we dug down 12 inch spike. What? 12 inch spike. And that 12 inch spike with the government with somebody. I can't say if I got I don't know who did it. We believe it was the government. They spiked the field. Spike the field. Okay. So when you're with the metal detector, you're going to get a false reading. You dig down. Uh-huh. Full of just a metal spike. Yeah. And every two or three of those, you just finally give up. But Frank knew where to go. And he went outside that. And then of course, we found one. He also found three military buttons from the debris field. Cool. And these military were buttons and he traced it down. We're issued between 1940 and 1950. So it fits the window. They're made out of aluminum and there were fatigues. So what you had, and we talk about this again on the film. So you got these guys. What are the buttons doing out there, folks? Oh, that's because they were retrieving that weather balloons. Sorry. No, they were down on their hands and these picking up every piece of metal. But what happened was it was a skip site. This thing came in and hit. And when it hit, it was like an explosion. And the shards went everywhere, everywhere, like a bullet out of a gun. And then it went and flew for miles and crashed. So it's two sites. Marcel senior was only at the first site. The bodies and the craft were at the second site. And apparently from what I've heard the second site, this is this is um information that I heard from somebody, I haven't vetted it. So do it at what you will. But the second site now is completely fenced off completely. Whereas the first site, you can still go there. Wow. That's so cool. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. So you know, it's well-meaning Christian researchers who say, all of us was a weather balloon. That there's no physicality to it. In my opinion, it does a great injustice. And people can believe what they want to believe. It's just like a difference between, you know, someone who is, you know, a dispensationalist like myself or a charismatic, charismatic, dispensationalist, I believe in the gifts of a spirit. But I believe that the church in Israel were two distinct entities completely. I believe in prophecy literally not some allegory stuff. So the problem with this is you've got people saying it's all demonic delusion. And it's not. There's physicality to it. And that's why when we went out there to the Roswell debris field, look, we took out the implant that we talked about the last time. I think we touched on it. I don't know if we. There's a guy who's taken these five years old. He's implanted right here. Okay. So the late Dr. Roger Lear had, it's not in there. It's not in the run of disclosure. It's in our films. So he's unbelievable. So he's abducted at five years old and he's implanted. So he runs into Richard Shaw by former business partner Richard passed away a few years ago. And Rick has just moved into Wakanda. So this, this guy shows up. He's seven foot tall. He's a former basketball player. And he goes, he's changing the smoke alarm. This doesn't mean the ladder because he's seven feet. And he goes, what are you working on to Rick? And Rick goes, I'm working on a film on UFOs. No, never met this guy before. And the guy goes, I've got an implant, just like that. I've got an implant. It's got a guy. Yeah. Seven foot guy. So, well, and they they converse. Richard calls Dr. Lear. Calls me. We meet this guy. We go to Dr. Lear's office. The first first step in the protocol, this particular person has to fill out this whole questionnaire thing because it weeds out the people who are looking for fame and fortune. this guy wanted was this thing out. So there it is on the X-ray and he goes and gets a cat scan. There it is on the cat scan and we do a gouse meter sure enough it's giving off a frequency. Well, we take a metal detector from from Home Depot. There it is right there. We take him to Dr. Matrishyanis office to surgeon. He takes an ultrasound one and goes like this. Oh, there it is right there puts a little X looks at the X-ray. Oh, it's right there. Okay. We'll see you in two weeks. We'll take it out. So now we're there. Camera crews are there. A bunch of witnesses are there. Dr. Roger Lear, Richard John myself, Dr. Matrishyanis of the surgeon, because Dr. Lee were just assisted. And so I'm figuring oh, we'll be here 15, 20 minutes, early lunch. And that's it, right? Wrong. So Matrishyanis like he's looking at the X-ray. He puts it next where he thinks the thing is most pretend this is the ultrasound one. He's like this. We're an hour and 20 minutes. He's like this. And he's looking at the ultrasound monitor. Nothing. Not a stinkin thing. For an hour and 20 minutes, we're prior to that. We had found it within less than less than two minutes. Definitely. He just went like this. Look at the X-ray. Put the X-ray here. Made an X. Oh, there it is. Yeah. You will see in two weeks. Now, it's two weeks later. We're in the theater and it ain't there. It's like it's just like it's been cloaked. It's been completely cloaked and hidden. And he's really perplexed. We all are. He finally turns to Dr. Lear and goes, maybe we should get another X-ray. And Dr. Lear goes, no, we know where it is. We saw it. We know where it is. And at that time, Richard, Richard's standing about this far away where you are. And I get a tap on his shoulder from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit says, you need to pray over this. You need to rebuke this thing. You need to pray over this and you need to do it now. And so I'm a roomful of non-believers except for Rick. And I go, okay, guys, I'm going to pray and I'm going to do it now. I'm all kind of like, oh, Marjouli has lost his marbles, right? No, I haven't. So my prayer was really short. Father, if there are forces which are cloaking this device, I pray that you'd beg your power and do it soon. Okay. Dead silence. Everybody's like, yeah, exactly. You know, all the years out of the room, all of a sudden, this object comes in like this on the monitor, just like that. And everybody goes, what's that? And Dr. Matrishyana goes, that's the implant. And he takes the wand and he taps it and looks at it and puts it back on there's the implant. There's the implant. So we took the implant out. It's all in the film. We have all these pictures, all this stuff. I can give you those too. Yeah. Now we're in seal lab and we cut it open and we look at it and it's made out of meteorite metal. We did a scan on it made out of meteorite metal. I'd be doing a documentary on this, hopefully in January or February because the gentleman who's got all the implants from Dr. Lear and we're going to we're going to go through this. I think that these are prototypes for the mark of the beast. Oh, that's what I think they are because the evolution of them and there is an evolution. The one we took out at that time was 40 years old. The one prior to that was so hard that you couldn't cut it with a diamond blade saw. Dr. Lear had to take it to a laboratory and they cut it open with a laser beam and inside are double walled carbon nanotubes which who knows what they're doing there and what they're there for tubes of double walled carbon nanotubes. They're microscopic, but they're doing something. So we know that this is an evolution. We know where they're from. This guy's been a lifelong abductee. He's not anymore. He stopped and you took the tractor out of him. They don't know where he's at. Well, that's part of it, but they know where you're right anyway, but that's part of what it is. Absolutely. So it's very complex. We don't have all the answers, but people have been implanted and I believe this is conjecture. We won't know that when they actually show up, they're going to have this technology and in fact, I remember talking to a woman who was an abductee and she had one on her forehead and implant her forehead and she just took a razor knife and cut it out herself. Goodness gracious. Exactly. I would do the same. Well, a guy had felt it, knew it was there and cut it out. So it's more common than what people think. And again, this is the deep end of the pool, guys. This is like high strangeness to jail on Linux term, but it's high strangeness. But it's real. And for those of people out there, well, it's all demonic illusion. It ain't, or you're calling all these people liars and you're calling all of our works somehow that we're just making this stuff up. It's all on film. When I started talking about implants in 1999, because that's when I met Dr. Lear, we were laughed at. Just people just scoffed and laughed and blah, blah, blah, not anymore because we actually show the incision. It's all on film. Richard did a great job. Here's the incision, open it up and then you can see the implant and better than the flesh. And then he takes a scalpel and slowly cuts it out and there it is. I mean, there's no, no side of hand here. I mean, you can see the whole thing and it's coming out of this guy. And it's, you know, giving off a reading on the gals meter and it's all this stuff. I mean, it's, it's hard science and this guy, he remembers being abducted as a five-year-old and then implanting it in his leg. He talks about being on a camp out with his friends and the grays come over the fence and take them. And he was, he would character wise, was he just a pretty normal dude? I have lunch with him like every couple of months, even now, even though we pray. So he told you, this is on, on our, on our film, years later he came to my studio and I filmed because I told him, hey, I want to do this, you know, kind of find out what's been going on. So, when his, his parents and grandparents used to find him out on the lawn or the backyard at eight o'clock or seven o'clock or six o'clock in the morning, right? It's just a kid. And they were afraid of going to drown in the pool. So they locked him into his room. They locked on the doors, locks on the windows the next morning, out on the lawn of all the locks are still there. And then he looked right at the camera and he goes, explain that to me. Yeah. So, you know, this stuff, the breeding program is real and he would say, well, oh, they were a scriptural basis for that. Go to Daniel 243. Their seed will mingle with the seed of them, but they will not clue to them. Who were they? What's not human beings? So who's left? Does he remember, like incidents or is it a lot of it repressed? Some of it is repressed others. He remembers. Has he ever done that? Well, what do you, what are your thoughts on like the hypnotic? We've done regression. Yeah, regression. Yeah, we've done that with, that's in our, in our film in our 10 part DVD series. We did professional, she came in and there was a woman that was taken and she was pregnant when she was taken and they took the baby. And the next day, you know, she's freaking out and all this other stuff and she goes to the OB-GYN and she goes, we saw the heartbeat. We saw it. It was there. It was in the womb. We saw it. Nothing. Everything's completely claimed. And she remembers, you know, when you say regression, it's not what people think. You're not laying on what you can be laying or sitting up or whatever, but it's not like you're losing control or anything else. And what happens is a trained person can, when I say regressed, even that's the wrong word. You're just in a very relaxed state. Extremely, but you're in total control of your facilities. There's nothing demonic here. You're not opening yourself up to anything like that. You're just very relaxed, extremely relaxed, taking some deep breath, just relax, and then the person will go, I want you to go back to that moment in time where the ship appeared outside the door. And sometimes nothing happens. Sometimes all of a sudden it triggers a memory. And it's different for each person. And she remembers waking up at two or three in the morning from a dead sleep and her husband at that time is right next to her. He's completely gone, completely asleep. And she looks out the window, and there's a UFO just hovering like right there. And it's big. And she thinks to herself, what are you doing here? And immediately mind the skull, you know, voice the skull. We're here for you. Yeah. And that's, and the next thing she knows, she goes down on the floor, and that's it. She's levitated in the ship. And that's when they take the baby. Was it her? So her baby, because I know their stories were like they implant you and then, but that was her. Well, we never got that far. Okay. We never got that. She found herself pregnant, just like Karen. In my opinion, that was one of theirs. Yeah. Hybrids. So you see, when you say something like this, it's like people, we have no, and I get that for you know, you're listening to this for the first time. It's deep into the pool. You're going like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard. But then you go back in the scripture where Jesus tells the serpent, the dragon, you know, your seed, your offspring will be a war with the offspring of the woman. Genesis 6, the reason for the flood is because the sons of God, see for who she momma's a cane, go into of them have hybrid beings on as a flame, which results in the flood, Tower of Babel. Why does he confuse the lambs? What's going on in Sodom and Gomorrah? Who is in the Promised Land? And then finally, what is the angel-sated Daniels, who have the words of the book, Daniel? Men will run two and four over the face of the earth, knowledge will increase. That's where we are. But just before that, he says, their seed will mingle with the seed of the men. Who are they? So who the heck is it? Genesis 3, 15, that's the story. Why would Jesus himself point back to the days of Noah? Yeah. Seriously. Very specific. Yeah. And everyone in 2000 years know what he's talking about because the bones of the Nephilim, according to the 1st century historian Josephus, are openly on display in Abraham. They're there 20 miles from Jerusalem and who knows what might have been in Jerusalem. But we don't know. That's a conjecture. But we do know from Josephus that the bones were on display in Abraham. Everybody knew. Everybody knew. There's no equivocation here because there is no satellite theory. That doesn't happen to a 3rd, 4th century where this knucklehead, Julius Afrikanis, just invents this thing, Augustine latches on the wit. Now it's taught in seminary is the truth. It's like that's where the book of Enoch is so important. It's not part of our can. And it's found in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Jude's quoting from it. So you're not quoting from something unless it's part of your will else. Yeah. Now, I was looking at through your, the revised part of your book, I mean, the expanded part, I guess, because you're talking recently about disclosure day by Stephen Spielberg. Correct. Now, we've been talking about him a couple times, but let's get out. Maybe he's been pretty to certain military knowledge, a lot of the things that you wrote about before and talked about before we're shown in this film. You know, you talk about kids who've been visited all their life and heard going back to that house at the very end that they can, you know, constructed and Satan can be disguised as a being of light. Yeah. And so like, what was your take on that? Like, what do you take on Spielberg and like the modern day UFO disclosure stuff that's happening right? How much time do we have? I don't have to get home to like, 10 days. I have a whole presentation on this thing, where I take, I take the three trailers, I take hello down there from this 2024 Super Bowl. I take age of disclosure and run through that. I take the, the first three trailers from Spielberg film, but the whole thing is flipped. I'll tell you why. So in the third, third trailer that Spielberg does, right? So you see this, the little innocent girl in bed and the cardinal, right? The little, the little mobile cardinals like this, those are triggers. And then this beautiful stag appears. This is beautiful. The antlers are amazing and the cardinals lands on one of the antlers. And then you see a warm little fox, cute little fox and a cute little raccoon. And they just all go, now she trusts them and they just somehow leave the room. And she's in this field of snow and she's walking to the gingerbread house. I was almost, I was almost screaming because this is disgusting. He's flipped the script because the stag is not a stag. How do we know that? Because in the film and in the trailer, we see the eye of the stag and the head turns and guess who it is? It's a gray. Yeah. It's a gray. The Greek word, I got this from Russ Desdar, it's called "Mediske's Monocyte." The ability to shapeshift and change your look to fit your purposes. So let me get this straight. Is it okay to abduct a five-year-old girl against your parents' wishes? There's no parental consent form here. But what if they mean well? Well, that's where, that's what Spielberg does. Yeah. So the end just to fire the means, oh, I'm just going to present myself with some animals that you love and trust and you'll follow me anywhere. We'll go to the gingerbread house. But guess what? She goes into the gingerbread house and guess where she winds up. She's on the metal table. And then the thing comes down on her head. And the eyes go like this and the grays do in this and the clicky noises, all thing. The whole thing is flipped. And somehow that gets a pass. Are you flipping? Kidding me? I was just, I'm screaming in the theater. I'm not really. Because it's ridiculous. The whole thing is completely, completely flipped, completely flipped in any way. Now what's the purpose for that? Because obviously that we have the government trying to really bring it into our everyday culture of like, you know, these things are real, is it to sympathize with these outside creatures? Yes. Okay. Because the grays, oh look what we did to the grays at Rosswell, for the section, oh my gosh. If Spielberg has completely flipped the script completely, the grays are the good guys. And we're, and remember during his film, what's happening if you haven't seen the films for the alert? What's happening in the film? What's the backdrop? Were worth three is about to happen. North Korea is about to launch a nuke. What's the top rung on the ladder of disclosure? The trigger for their revival is a nuclear thing. And so my friend sitting next to me and he goes, Dale goes, goes, it's like they read your book, you go, yeah, kind of, isn't it? Because if you have a nuclear device, we talked about this last time going, going off anywhere on the planet, it creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced, collectively. That's when they show up. Mass hysteria. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mass hysteria. We are your creators. We are your progenitors. We created our whole life on this planet. We seated you here, you know, from Epsilon Aridhani, and now we're back to Usherman, kind of a golden age. So this whole thing is a construct. It's interesting in the third trailer. Is Spielberg says something on a paraphrase, but it's pretty close. He goes, you know, I used to think to myself, how wonderful if if the American people found out that all of this is true, and it cuts away, it shows more of the film than it cuts back as to even Spielberg. And he goes, it's all true. Yeah. Then he shows Ross, well, she's someone like me who's been embedded with this, and not because I'm so smart, it just goes, I've been studying it forever, right? Because the Lord has raised me up for this position. Yes, sir. So here we are. I didn't sign up for this. I'm a worship leader. Okay. But here we are. Yeah. And 34 films and 16 bucks. So he knew what he was doing all glory to the King. So you see Roswell. And there's a slate. You guys know the slate is right. Take one. So the slate goes, this is really profound to me July 7th. 509th bombing group, Roswell in Mexico, entity number five, role number 18. And July 7th is when they're all there are filming this stuff because July 6th is when Jesse Marcel Sr. is in the debris field and brings back pieces of the metal and shows his son and his wife and then goes to the base. And that's when they're dispatched. But Marcel Sr. is in where we were, the debris field one. He doesn't see the bodies. He doesn't see the craft way later when he's being when they're, they're all meeting and passing around the objects and stuff. So Spielberg reenacts out. And the question I have is did he see the original film and they just reenact it? That's what we were wondering. Yeah. And then from there, so the Roswell one is an easy one. But then he goes to Jackie Gleason, the entertainer of the 50s and then he was a big deal, man. I was a kid. I remember you're watching him on TV. It made my parents, I mean, he was a big deal. He was like, you know, amazing. And there's Richard Nixon and Jackie Gleason at a, at a base someplace and the five bodies are being, they were in frozen state and guys and hazmat suits, the whole deal. And they will. These things out. We actually show the Jackie Gleason thing in our 10 part series where Gleason's widow goes, he came back from his wisest sheet, poured himself a tall one. So that's real. Yeah. Nixon and Gleason seeing the bodies and then after that everything gets hushed up, then it shows Kexberg. My father and mother-in-law lived very close to Kexberg and I asked him about it and I actually went to the site and filmed there and they said that when Kexberg happened, that everything was shut off, the government was all over this place and they took something very big out of the site, it was all covered in tarps, the roads were all sealed out, this whole thing. So you've got Roswell, you've got Kexberg, you've got Jackie Gleason and Richard Nixon and then the fourth one is Eisenhower, General Eisenhower going into a building, being followed by the three grades. That's where the treaty was signed and the treaty was, we'll give you the technology. You give us access to the population. Where have we heard that before? Book of Enoch. It's right there. I started the whole thing and Enoch, the fallen angels gave us what, technology, and we gave them access to the population, to the women. And this is where the whole thing, the whole thing takes off. So walk through this, you've got 1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki, two atomic bombs, 47 you get Roswell. Why Roswell? Because the 509th bombing group is at Roswell, who cares about the 509th? The 509th is the bombing group that drops the atomic bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. 1948, May 14th, 1948, Israel becomes a nation. This whole UFO thing takes off like this from that point in time. Just launches, crop circles, counter-mutilizations. Yes, they were there before I get that, but not like after May 14th, 1948. And the abduction thing starts to happen and the countless sightings that we see, swamp gas, weather balloon, nonsense, and now it's all coming out. What they've been lying to us for 79 years. Why? They're terrified. Explain it. They can't. They're what they're really afraid of. In fact, in the six tranche that was released as a video, I forget the guy's name. He's a general or something. This is a six tranche delivered by the war department. And he says, there's no video, just an audio. He basically says, yeah, we were, we were, we were very concerned with the population of mass hysteria. That's why under, under, so what do they do? We have Star Trek. We've got Star Wars, we've got all these films, everybody's incultrated. I mean, if one walked down the aisle with a mall, who cares, well, yeah, that's a, what, you know what I'm saying? Cause we've all been incultrated of this thing, but the phenomenon is real. And that's what they were afraid of. And the old guard at Roswell, they're all dead. Gemma Raimi, who bought the Kabash on this thing, he got the orders from higher up. And that's the famous picture where Jesse Marcel Senor's holding the weather balloon. Right. I'm, you know, sorry. And, and Raimi's got the telegraph, the telegram, rather, and the telegram says disc and bodies. Hello. And that was by Rudyak, who, the same for that and figured it out with a, you know, photography equipment. So they're rolling it out. That's why guys like David Grush are so important. We have non-human biologics in our possession, you know, Commander David Fraver, first rung them a lot of disclosure, talking about all of this. And then, you know, May, what was it May 8th, 2026 this year? That's the day that's unprecedented. That's when our government admitted that the phenomenon is real. And now that was the first tranche and we're up to number six. And a tranche is the segment, just think of a pie. So a tranche can be a very small sliver. Now there's six of them. And still, we have better UFO footage than they do with our Comberg as UFO. Where do you think the government is lying when it comes to this disclosure stuff? I think they need to show us the film from Raw as well. They need to show us the film as if they have that. They have a whole lot more. They got everything. They got bodies. They got the crap. Bibles are said it. He's back engineering the propulsion system. They know. Yeah. You know, what would you say your predictions for the next year? Like, like that would affect our everyday life and our like humanity and civilization. Like, what do you think you see coming down the pipeline? Nuclear event. Nuclear event. Yeah. And that's the game change. That's what they're waiting for. Who's pulling the trigger first, you think, in your opinion? With a nuke? Yeah. Could be anybody. Yeah. There's a lot of turmoil happening. It's nuts. I mean, I got said earlier, Germany is threatening to get involved in the war with Ukraine because, you know, NATO is doing this whole thing. Russia is saying we will use nukes. We will use the nukes. I mean, you can't make this stuff up, you know, every domino effect at that point, right? Yeah. Very much so. Everything is very extremely unstable. And remember, Spielberg shows and all throughout the film, everybody's in panic mode because the North Koreans are going to start World War III. This is where we are. And this is in the book. This is the final trigger. Before that, I think Trump will announce that we're not alone in the universe. At that point, does that kick off the great falling away that we read about in second. Because they did not believe the truth. What's the truth? That Jesus spoke everything into existence and the beginning was the Word of the Word with God. The Word was God. All things were created by him without a nothing that was not made. It was made. So there, that's it. He spoke. Don't ask me how that works. We spoke everything into existence. We believe that or the fallacy of Darwinism, where somehow they just keep adding zeros over billions of euros. This whole thing. I was just talking to my friend John Manoranzo, who brought us out here from charisma media. And his wife is pregnant. And we were just talking about all the absolute mind-boggling details of pregnancy. When a baby has a certain type of saliva, it can trigger the milk in a mother's breast. So it'll either enliven the baby like caffeine or help the baby sleep. It's like, wait a minute. Evolution. Evolution did that. It's so brilliant. No. That's the hand of God. Figuring all this stuff out. And one of my favorite, and I've been talking about this lately, the idea of irreducible complexity. And I got this from a book. I can't remember who the guy who wrote it. And he did. He talked about the eye. And of course, immediately, he was jumped on and blah, blah, blah. So just let me ask you this. So we have a human heart. No one knows how that works. We know what this electrical impulse support has come from. And why is it the heartbeat starts in the womb, right? It's the first thing that happens. So what does the heart do? It's pumping. So, you mean this thing was just somehow created by itself, some pump. Oh, no. Wait. Wait. The pump. The pump is pumping blood. Where's that come from? Oh, wait. You got to have a containment area for the blood. We'll just make these veins. Evolution is just so brilliant. It knew all this. And from those veins, somehow the blood is going in and out, and then, oh, wait, I'm breathing. And that's, you know, creating this whole thing. And I'm not even thinking about it. And it happens automatically. Are you kidding me? Stop lying to us, stop putting this ridiculous coolly down everybody's throat. Evolution is the biggest scam that's ever been perpetrated on the people of the globe. And yet it's look at sacrosal and the higher halls of wisdom in our culture, it's just nonsense. Because they did not believe the truth, God sends them strong illusion. That's where we are. And they will believe a lie. What's the lie? That these entities created all life on this planet, started the world's civilizations, started the world's religions, religions, and governments and civilizations. And now at this critical juncture, the new going off somewhere, they're back. We're going to our sherman kind of a golden age. But wait, those pesky Christians, there are some people that don't belong here anymore. And they are stopping the harmony of the earth. So this is in our track that we do, it's actually channel information. There is a moment in time where many people will leave the planet in an afternoon. The people who leave the planet during the time of earth changes do not fit here any longer. That's channel information that's decades old from a woman who's open to herself up. And this entity has come in automatic writing voice to skull whatever it is. It's in a cult technique, basically explaining away the rapture of the church. So the other side of the aisle has already explained the way. The kingdom of darkness knows about it and they're explaining it away. Yeah. That's funny because it's not a new concept because like you think of like ancient civilizations like the Anonaki who present themselves as the creators of all you know, it's the same old thing. Yeah, it's just kind of rinse and repeat and it's like refining, you know. It's interesting. And the Anonaki are nothing more of an account that we get in the genesis. They're just the fallen angels. That's what they are. Yeah. It's something they want to be worshiped. Hey, who does it? Speaking of worship. We worship Jesus. You've been into the Shroudatur and oh yeah, I would love to hear your take on all that stuff. Well, let's look at what's happened in the last 127 years or even 130 years, whatever. So you've got this artifact, it's been laying in Torin Italy for who knows how long centuries, right? And it just shows this very faint image of a man in repose, both a frontal and a dorsal image. So this thing, whoever was this was on it, the man on the Shroud, it shows it lay on the front and lay on the back of him. So you see this image, oh, it's an artist did this. Oh, it's a hoax. So the carbon 14 dating showed it was a evolution, yeah, evolution didn't exactly. So in 1898, you get this guy called Sikundapia, who's been commissioned by whoever to go take for the first pictures of the Shroud. So he does. He goes and takes pictures of the Shroudat, it's an old box camera, it's not like these, old box camera with glass plates, one shot at a time and you put the glass plate in, you get under the hood and you go click and you hold this thing and let's go off and now he's in his dark room. He's got all these glass plates in a little box, whatever, and he's taking the glass plate out and he's doing this. He's got dark room, got chemicals, this is not the, the iPhone of today and he's going like this and the thing begins to develop and there's the face of Jesus staring at him. And he realizes I'm the first guy in 2000 years ever to see this. He almost drops the glass plate because it should have been a negative image where he sees this positive image. So the, the film, what you see on the Shroud is a negative image. And so whoever did this knew about photography, that somehow some, you know, centuries later, that this thing is someone's going to want that photography and they're going to see this negative, negative image is actually a positive image meant really? And when you look at the Shroud, the forensic detail is staggering. The scourging is, when I, when I worked on the film, I, I just broke down on wept at one point because the scourging is horrific. I mean, these guys are, you know, the guys who whipped him absolute professional, he's, he's whipped within an inch of his life, literally, which is why he falls on the way to the cross, which is why he succumbed to his wounds after three hours. It's just like he's, he's been flaying alive, there's no coming back from this absolutely no coming back. How long did people typically, because crucifixion was a suffocation death? It could last days. Yeah. That's a last day. I could remember how long it was. Yeah. Three hours. Yeah. These are three hours in these to come. And people go, why? Jesus will to note strong. Excuse me. Why you could flade like that and let me know how you feel. So he's, you know, and then it's a helmet of Thor is not a crown, it's a helmet. And you can see the blood. So that in itself puts you right in the shock. You have a, you have a crown of Thor and it's like that, a helmet of Thor and you're, you're in shock because all those nerve endings, I mean, you are just, and then the nails don't go through the palm like all medieval, right? They don't, they come further down in the palm. The Romans would take your hand. I got those from Barry Schwartz. He was a stir photographer and they would take your hand and bend it like that. And then the nail would come up like this in the back. So it would start here, right in the palm down in the palm and then come back here. So no bones are being split, but that's how you can pin them and he's not going anywhere. So he's pinned with the nails. And then the feet, when you look at the wound and the side forensically, you see this mixture of blood and water just like Gipsy's tell us, but it's called in modern parlance. It's Billy Rubin and that's what you see. So forensically, the shroud is anatomically correct in my opinion. And you know, this is the most studied artifact on the planet, the shroud of Thorin. And what about the fabrics and stuff like that? Like because they they sourced it back to that time. Correct. Yeah. It's an ancient herringbone weave. There's pollen that's only found in Jerusalem. And only some of the pollen only found at a certain period of time. So the Vatican underproped John Paul and his daughter, he signed the thing to restore the shroud. And sorry. And people, Amitra Sindanologist like myself, the shroud of Thorin research project game, everybody freaked out. So this woman comes in and she's a textile expert. She vacuums the shroud. Goodness gracious. That's deliberate folks. That's absolutely deliberate. Hey, clean the carpet. Yeah, carpet. I don't have a carpet. Yeah. That's exact. It's deliberate. Yeah. And then they stretch it. So the shroud is about two inches longer than it should be and it's just on, it's unbelievable. But the shroud of Thorin research project and I think that like John McCormick, I want to say, I don't think it's McCormick. I'm, forgive me if you're watching this, but he was the one that put that team together and Barry Schwartz was a Jewish photographer who went and documented everything. They had access to the shroud of Thorin for 120 hours. And so the, and the carbon 14 data has been debunked. We show us in the film Ray, is it Ray Rogers? I wish I had my nose in front of me, but okay. So Ray is, it's a guy who is a textile expert. And when this paper came out by Joe Marino and his wife, who passed away, they wrote a paper on the shroud and the shroud, the carbon 14 dating and they postulated that these fibers were taken from a part of the shroud that had been rewoven. So the textile guy from the shroud of Thorin research project, I think it's Ray Rogers and Prisha, it's his name. So he looks, he goes, well, I can debunk this in three minutes and he goes down to his lab, and he has pieces of the shroud. He's got fibers that are right next from the place where they actually took the sample. Sure enough, there's linen fibers and then there's cotton fibers that are dyed to look like the linen. So it's a reweave, which throws off, this is all done from the 15th century from the fire, that damage the shroud, this is when these, the reweaving was done, which skewed the carbon 14 dating. So wait, interesting. So you've got 1898, you've got the shroud of Thorin. In modernity, circa, you know, maybe 25 years ago, somewhere in that time because of computers, right? There's a, there's an artifact called a sedarium of Oviato, the sedarium of Oviato is just this cloth that's been fused with blood and serimates totally disgusting and chose no implant or imprint like this route. It's been laying in Oviato Spain since the 7th century. So what they did is they took the cloth because legend has it that this is the cloth when they took Jesus off the cross, they were out of respect for the dead. They wrapped this face in this cloth. They wrapped this head in the cloth and took them down. So any, according to Jewish tradition, anything with blood on it has to be buried with the person. That's why the cross is buried. That's why the nails are buried and all the stuff is buried with them in the tomb. So the sedarium of Oviato, been sitting in Oviato Spain since the 7th century, they can take it and overlay it forensically photography wise, right? With the shroud, the face on the shroud is over 100 points of congruency, over 100 points of exactly, which means that that cloth was on the same guy on the shroud and it's the same blood type it's AB. So all this is, so now you've got the shroud, you've got the sedarium of Oviato, then you've got the Torah codes which come into vogue. So for the first time in thousands of years, someone goes, there's a message system here, the Torah codes, the first five books of the Bible, and that's Aliyah who rips, who figures that out with little three by five cards. That's how we did it originally and eventually went to the computer. So you've got all this stuff coming out, you've got the shroud, the sedarium, the Torah codes which show that there's something that there's a kid in message system within the first five books of the Bible. Gee, I wonder who did that. And now, drummer, please, you've got what might be, we don't know yet, the remains of Noah's Ark and Jerady to repent our. So if that's true, if the samples come down and they start finding animal DNA, 60 feet below and all this other stuff, then they got to open it up and that's mind-boggling. What are your thoughts on that? Are you pretty confident? Not yet. I need to see the data. Well, you know, it's interesting. I don't, I could totally get this date wrong, but they like very old maps, like I'm talking to like the 1500s, I believe it's around that time. They show the Ark being on that mountain. Really? Yeah, like it's a very old, it's a known place and there's those, like the stone anchors that are close to the site, that they would have potentially used on the Ark, like literally ancient stone anchors. And that's what they would do to keep the boat from sinking. Yeah. Because the stones weight the boat down, give it bowels, which is what they need. And then in the waves, there's not doing this, and the stones are all around that Dora Pinter's site. They're all there. I had a gentleman who has been to the site and asked the archaeologist, is it real? And the archaeologist apparently is Muslim. And he looked right at the guy and he said, yep, it's real, this is it. But we don't know. Yeah. And what I did a whole show on my show is on YouTube, the LA marginally, thank you. Go there now, folks. I'm joking. So he, um, the head archaeologist was threatened, death threats, number one, they ransacked his apartment, he's an hiding. Why? If there's nothing to see here, then who cares, right? I did. That was pretty recent. Was it? Yeah. Very recently. Like last week, like what was it? Was it the Sactus house? Yeah. Where they are. His apartment. That's so strange. You think? Yeah. Yeah. It points back to the validity of the biblical prophetic narrative. And if Noah's Ark is true, then what else is true? If the sedarium of, of Oviedo is the cloth that wrapped Jesus of Nazareth and the shroud is true, you got to start rethinking your, your position on life. Yeah. But, you know, if you're an atheist and a lot of people are, oh, it's just, you won't look at the evidence because it goes against your paradigm. Yeah. It completely destroys your world view all of a sudden. If you're an atheist and you're a Darwinist, there is no supernatural, there is no God, there is no prophecy. There are no miracles. Don't bother me. This all happened by accident over billions of billions of years. But if you get an artifact to try to turn, that rocks your paradigm completely and now you've got to deal with it. But you don't want to deal with it because you've got cognitive dissonance. But it's true. And if that's true, then Jesus did rise from the dead because that's how that imprint on the shroud was done. Yeah. That's how it was done. Didn't they say I could be wrong in this, but they say that the image on the shroud that it had to have experienced like a burst of light, burst of light came out like last year. That was like that huge negative image of the, the shroud. Yeah. That was crazy. Explain that a little bit. Like, how does that happen? Because they say with technology today, they couldn't duplicate that. But they can't. That's the thing. They cannot duplicate it. And I mean, to me, the, the forensic evidence on the shroud itself is just mind boggling. I mean, it's so exact, you know, I mean, because you always see that the nails going through the palms, it's not through the palms. It's like that coming up the backside. So it's like, and you just, I mean, people have started it. I mean, I'm an, an amateur, even though we have a film on it, I'm an amateur, and the knowledge is compared to some of these guys who have spent like like Joe Marino, he's got books like this thick on the shroud, you know, wrapped up in the shroud as one of his tombs. And you know, Barry Schwartz, he was Jewish and he took, he was out of 120 hours, he were allowed to examine the shroud, 110, he was awake for 110 hours, just thousands and thousands of photographs. And this is 1978. So there's nothing digital here at all, doesn't exist yet. So it's, I think it's just so cool that like, like these relics, they're not necessarily necessary for our faith, but God, he allowed them to say, you know, like, and be discovered. And I'm like, I just think it's so cool. So if you get Noah's Ark, so you've got, just think about this. You've got the shroud, the sedarium, and you got Toraco's, the Ark of Noah. What's next? Ark is a covenant. All right. Oh, man. That's a weapon though. That's a weapon. That's not like just like something like you. You think about what power it had to drop someone that touched it and stuff like that. Just touched it. The, the number, the flash of light was, it was Jeremiah Johnson, who was, he was on blurry creatures. He did the unpacking of it. 34 billion watts was the number that they came up with to generate what existed in the cloth. Dang. Like the face of a Nazi, that's what, make time. That's great. Big time. That's great. That is fascinating stuff. Golly, I love it. Super fascinating. I want to talk more about discoveries that you've made, either current past, present, whatever, honor, patron. Are you cool to do a patron with us real quick? I'd love to. I'd also love to ask you questions about crop circles. I love crop circles. I almost pushed it there because I had something about it. Just pulls me in. I just love crop circles. I think they're fascinating. So I'd love to get your perspective on the sites and stuff. You've been there before. I've been there. All right. Let's talk crop circles. L.A. Would you like to plug your stuff? I'd love to. Yeah. Yeah. Rugged at disclosure. Expanded. You can get on an Amazon, of course, or L.A. Marzoli dot com L.A. Marzoli dot com. You know, I do updates on these and you can go to our website rungsofdisclosure.com. Any, this, this one goes up to, I think, number 29, but any new rungs will be on rungs ofdisclosure.com. But you want to read the book because it's got a lot of information. It will bring you up to speed because it's all the deep end of the pool. And the bottom line is, we are going up to full disclosure. And when that happens, remember, Puritimethy chapter four verse one. And if you're a Calvinist, well, you're, you're welded in steel. 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