205 - The Devil Beneath the Andes & China's Cryptic Alien Warning

This week, on Ninjas, a Butterflies. Do you hear about this? A mountain that eats men. A very million people have died inside of it. Eight million? And before they go underground? Go on. They pray and offer sacrifices to the entity they call "ertio". Wait, you're telling me there's an ancient city out of Turkey? Not just a city. An 18-story metropolis. But who builds an entire city underground? People hiding from something. So you're telling me they locked thousands of mice in paradise? Unlimited food, unlimited water, no predators? That doesn't sound so bad. Then something terrible happened. Society collapsed. Violence became normal. Some even turned to cannibalism. Cannibalism? We're talking about all of that on today's episode. You bet your sweet caboose we are. This podcast is brought to you in power by Sunday. Watch this, or listen. Alright, starting the show. Welcome back to Ninjas, our Butterflies. It's really cool glasses. I felt like they were kind of a. I was going to see how it fell. Can I have some glasses? It's fun. You have those pink ones. Why don't you wear your pink ones? Where are they? I don't know where they're at. I'm saying, you have those though. I didn't know if you brought them. Pink ones. We just need like. Yeah, you have those little tiny. We need studio glasses. And just keep them in a. Fuck it. These are my mother. I'm going to order some right now. I see them again. Yeah. It makes everything better. Go on outside. And this is everything. Those are. Yeah. That's the Walmart special, baby. Fun sunglasses. Dude, life looks just. Is this what life should look like? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It does make me happier. I'm telling you, wait, do you go outside? Is it because it's walking the blue light out? I don't know, man. I don't know. Do we want like. It makes me feel like Robert Dany Jr. Look at these. Yeah. Here, look at it. You're right. Am I right or am I right? Oh, my word. Costa makes a little light one. I want to go. They're a little greasy. Yeah. They're not greasy. It's. It's tallow. Oh, okay. It's so greasy. Yeah, me so like. Be fat. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Okay, ready? Oh, yeah. My mother-in-law bought them while she was down here. And I was like, oh, those are actually really dope. And then I found them in my glove box when she left. And so I think she did that on purpose. Oh. Very nice. What a move. I don't know. You okay? Yes. There's so many fun sunglasses on. Here, use a coaster. Yeah, I didn't know where mine was. I'm going to order. Are you worried about rings? I am, yeah. Okay. Trying to keep this place really clean. Are you that guy? At home? No. Costa, Costa, Costa, Costa. I could see you being that guy, though. No. For me, it's just the wetness. I just don't like when a table top is wet. I completely get it. That's why I was looking for a coaster. I don't care about rings. I mean, except the one ring. Ooh, to rule them all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that ring. Yeah, that one. Yeah. Yeah, that one. You're that guy, pal. Bro, you're not that guy, pal. They frickin' just hit. Bob or Shupa? Shupa. Shupa. Shupa. Oh, ho. There's no way I was going to. I, I under threw that. Shupa. How many like realistically, how many pairs of sunglasses do we need in this office? I'm going to get my own. Don't get me my. Get yours. I'm getting, I'm getting variety packs. No thanks. Go to Walmart. There's where these ones were from. That's where they are from. Stop it. To my tongue hurts so bad. I know. Wait. Do you want me to talk about the thing I was mentioning? Do you want me to talk about that? Yeah. Now? Yeah. Okay. Or do you read talking about like later? No, no. Okay. Cool. All right. Well, let me send you this photo. She's not even in the. No, it's okay. She'll. She'll read it. I'm looking for a small bin. We just put it in the. The thing. And the part. Yeah. Put it in the thing. Let's just move on. Okay. Okay. Look at what I just sent you guys in the text message. So this right here. Can you read that, Andrew? I can. Okay. What does that translate? Honestly, a little uncomfortable to go here, but it looks like it's from the Chinese government. Yes. So this PSA was sent out to the Chinese people. From. Let me. I want to be correct. It's the Jin Chu network, an official state back news portal. Oh gosh. This is legit. It's backed by the state. Okay. What this reads. It says. Do not respond to aliens without authorization. Pardon me. From the international Academy of Astronautics. If extraterrestrial life is discovered, notify the United Nations immediately. United Nations. This is a hundred percent legit. United Nations. Why would they say that? I don't. I don't know. Chinese. You want to be one of those? Maybe. Maybe it's. Maybe it means something else. Like United Nations. Yeah. I don't know, but that is a hundred percent legit. And a lot of people are comparing it to the do not answer premise from three-body barbell. Oh gosh. It chills all over my body. I'm going to throw up. What? What's up? Super. Super strange. I don't know what to make of that. Oh my gosh. But if you have the government people telling you like do not engage, do not interact with extraterrestrial life. Do you know how to tell me twice? I mean, it didn't. It felt like we didn't need that, but when did that come out? July 17th. Oh my goodness, Andy. What in the world? Recent. What in the world? Do not reply to aliens on your own. The International Academy of Aeronaut Astronautics has updated its recommendations. The extraterrestrial life is discovered and immediately notified the United Nations. Boom. What did they mean by United Nations? Can you get some clarity on that? Look, it's calling me. Who's that? Oh, answer it real quick yet that. Krueger, we're on the pod. What's up? Oh, sorry. My bad. What do you need? I was trying to kill time. I was seeing if I could swing by, but y'all are busy. No, come over. All right, but I'll call you after. Now you're good. Okay, fine. Why can't he come? I was just trying to kill it. We don't want Krueger in here. Okay. All right. We love you. He's going to prank us. It's scary to think. You just comes on and says the most offensive thing. That's what joke. And so we're having jokes. You know when you come in and he would like knock all the cameras over and you're like, that's funny, right? You're funny, right? So people that don't know, Michael Krueger is our dear friend. We love Michael Krueger. He's the best. I lived with them for a good season. We call him Krueger jokes because he does these practical jokes that actually hurt people. This was before Winston. Like, it's just like Winston. It's just like Winston. But it was happening before Winston. Oh, yeah. Here's an example. An example. But my bachelor party. This is a week before we got married, right? It was. Yeah. We can before. Yeah. We can before Krueger comes on this trip. We go to a place. We have some drinks. I'm drinking. You know, whatever. We're. Yep. Yeah. You mean lemonade. Yeah. And lemonade and stuff. Yes. Krueger had a really nice lemonade. Yes. He's like, try this. Yeah. I take a sip. He starts dying laughing. He's like, what are you laughing at? He said, I just got over a strep throat. So what are you doing? He's like, I'm joking. I'm like, so you didn't have strep throat? He's like, no, I did. I'm like, so the joke is to get me strep throat before my wedding because it gets funny. I mean, we are like, we're laughing now. So maybe it's just a punchline. Maybe it was. Yeah. There was. I remember too. I on your 26th birthday, we went down time out in Dora and he like was messing around with you. And then he basically like picked you up and threw you in the bushes. Push back, dude. Yeah. You got up and you're like, Krueger, what the heck. They're so bad. Just like these crazy. I'm so cute. And I did not know him on that trip. He slapped me as hard as a human can slap a person. And on that same trip, there's a sauna at the Airbnb and we were overcapacity in the sauna. There's like 10 of us in like a four person sauna. You have to keep going. This is crazy. Just guys being there just just chilling goofing off. We're wearing these. They're on the side. It's a boy. It's a boy strip. Yeah. Lemonade and sauna. Yeah. Lots of little sweaty guys in a sauna. What's a big deal? Anyways, we're in there. Krueger comes over and locks a sauna from the outside. Oh my gosh. It's like what like a hundred the controls are on the outside. And not opening the door. He walks away no, and you know, we can lemonade somewhere. We literally had to kick the door open. Yes, because he wasn't going to open the door. How long before the panic set in though? I mean, it was instant. For you. All right. So he's our 30 seconds in and he's like, bye, I think it was we were chill for a little while. Three minutes. Yeah. And then we started like realizing he's not going to come back for us. And it was after the he slapped me. He woke up in the middle of the night. He woke up every single person. And we had like 12 people maybe more than that. He went around every single person in like three o'clock in the morning because he felt bad. He was like, and he woke up. I was the last person he saw. So he had woke up everyone and apologized to them. It's like to go to bed, man. It was so weird. Remember when they told you Andy, throw out your clothes in the fire. You're going to keep going the story. I was holding it. It was your only sweatshirt. It's January in the mountains. She's the only sweater. It's the same trip when he fell out of a tree. This show is off the rail. Michael did get their late right? And he goes to the wrong. This I'll tell the story. Okay. We have to show we'll show a picture of Kruger because it only makes sense. So we get there, I don't know, like a Thursday or Friday. And Kruger said he wasn't coming to Josh and Josh was kind of bummed out about it. It's like, whatever, you know, he was sick. And he's like, maybe we'll get pranked so terribly. Yeah. So we get there, baby. We stay the night. It's all fun games. And then Kruger walks up the driveway. And this is it was a horrible like trek to get to this place. Like like Ubers are terrible. And so he's getting up and he's literally a beard out to hear long hair, camo, camo with a big old backpack. He looks like just a mountain man that's just been off the grid. He comes in. He's like, hey, I'm here and Josh gets surprised. It's pretty fun. He's like, yeah, I went to the wrong Airbnb and we're like, wait, what? And he says, yeah, I thought it was you guys because there was like decorations. But then I realized it was like bachelor at party decorations. He's walking and looking in the way. He walked around. He was knocking on all the doors. He swore he had the right address. And I'm like, do those ladies must have been terrible. Did he hide? Did he see someone? I think he did. I know my god. There was no one that came to the door. But he said he heard noises. And it was just it's people hiding. Yeah. Yeah. I hope this show was big enough to where, well, what was the city? It was actually Nashville. Okay. Yeah. And this would have been one year, 2020 or 2020. Yeah. There's got to be a fan listening to the show who has like bachelor at or friends who had a bachelor at party and told this crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm scared. Please, if that's you, drop it in the comments. As soon as he saw the bachelor at decorations, I think he ran. Oh, right. Just blew like coming down the mountain. Oh, it's like a shot. I know. Honey, come here. He's kind of trying to break it. All right. You know, song. I do. Oh, my gosh. No. Don't get inspired. What are you talking about? No. Well, yeah. I got. I got. I'm just. Guys. How did that happen? I don't know. This is the first time. What happened? Nothing. Hey, that's rude. We'll tell you to later. It's got. It's got to be in my head. I feel like just cut it out. I'll tell you like literally in like five minutes. We got to do the song. Oh, my gosh. I'm sick from the Sahara. Do you know what's happening to him too? Soar throat, but the Sahara dust is blown over floor right now. And you mowed the grass with all that going on. That's what I think happened. I m mowed in the dust bowl. That makes sense because I've been having allergies this week. I didn't know anything about it. Okay. Do you care what genre she wants? Oh, yeah. What do you want? He ended it to me off. It's death metal. Dang it. You always ask for death metal. What? I feel like you owe me that. Oh, yeah. I would have a death metal. What? I saw me in the other day. It was like, don't ask me to repeat myself in this heat. Sound like a dog with peanut butter on the roof. It's mouth. Taco Bell done did me wrong. Let us lit the fuse. Shoulders plans for 20 miles. There will not be loose. I'm a ditch behind some pines. Don't nobody know. Then I can't find my shame. Lord, it's all the show. You'll get read my license plate. Drag me if you must. But that ditch off highway nine. Shoulders stay between us. If it ain't keeping bad guys caught, go and do your thing. Just don't save me squat in there. I like the count of KRO. Swore I'd never eat again. That was my last run. 30 minutes later though, Mexican pizza one. Rolled right back through Taco Bell. Like I lost my mind, flopped was grinning overhead, waiting there in line. Don't get read my license plate. Drag me if you must. Yay! I didn't really understand anything though. I didn't get it. No, I don't think they'll get it. They all. It's about poop, yeah. Poooping from Taco Bell and the flight camera is tracking you and watching you. Emergency ditch situation. I see. Yeah. Alena brought our semis. What a moment to walk into the show. That's good. The harmonic. I don't know what you're going for. But just up there it was just like a peep. The one time got me. I saw that. It's rude. What? That's rude. What's rude? Communicating when Andrew and I are sitting right here. I'm used to it. I work in the zone. Every time I go to the bathroom, conspiring. Seems like I come back and I open the door quickly just to see I'm talking to each other. Seems like you're kind of jealous. Dude, that's my husband. I'm just saying. I was just more alive before you were his actual wife. That's true. So we've you married them. That kind of come. I feel a little bit of a contract sort of thing going. I had my fingers crossed the whole time. Dang. You didn't oh, you didn't finish Bible college. That's not an official wedding. That's true. That's how that works. Oh my god. That's a bummer. What are you doing for the rest of your life, Josh? May. Yeah. He just got a sauna. I want a sauna so bad. Did you build it? Did you know? There's this man. I saw this thing. This man. He is in his 70, 76 years old and 13 of his direct descendants above him. So like mother, father, aunts, uncles, grandparents. Every single one of them has had all timers. Wow. And they've all passed away between ages 50 and 60 from all timers. Well, that is a very scary thing. So he was for sure destined to have all timers. 76 years old. No signs of all timers. Wow. And they think it's because of heat. Whoa. So this man, he worked in like some like metal smithing mill or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. That's how to smack in there literally for like over 30 years working in an environment that's 100 to 120 degrees. And there's like a protein in your brain to where it's like heat induced to where like builds protection on your brain. And so they're saying with that study, they also have done studies in like a Norway and stuff. Or is it Norway? Yeah. Or like Finland or something. Or Finland, wherever they do a lot of saunas. Yeah. Kind of both. And it was 30% of people or you had a 30%, oh was it? People that went to the sauna every single day for like an hour. - Yeah. - That's a long time in the sauna. - Or 30 minutes an hour, whatever it was. - Okay. - Their risk of all timers dropped by like 30%. - I believe it, dude. - Yeah, I mean, they say there's so many toxins that leave the body and chemicals. But also overseas, we make it like a big competition thing here in America with like how hot can you like, you know, how long do you gonna do that? - Over there, it's like, it's a very social thing. Like, it's normal for a bunch of people to be in the sauna at lower temps for longer amount of time. Conversations, drinks, a food, like it's a crazy cultural thing. - Yeah. - Dude, bring it to the States. Let's get a big ol' sauna. And we'll have a little sauna parties. - So you want a little studio. - Dude, if you do want a studio, I will be forever grateful. - I mean, y'all can keep the sauna for me. The hot tub is where it's at. - I love hot tub, too. - I know there's benefits in the sauna. And I'm sitting in a bath of chemicals, but. - I love a hot tub. But there is a point where it's like, I'm sweating a lot. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's happening to me, too. - And it's just in this tub with all of us. - I remember going to Resorts as a kid with my family and I would go, I'd bring a friend with me and we would go sit in the hot tub for two hours. And nobody, are we gonna die? - So I won't expose the resort it was, but I worked it one. And there is a point with the chemicals where it becomes like reproductively dangerous to young females. But the frequency that they have to fix the chemicals because of how many people are in and out. The pool guy I believe was just like dumping crap in there until like not have to deal with it. Allegedly. - Man. - We went in a sauna last weekend. There was a gentleman in there, not a sauna hot tub. There was a gentleman in there and he was like, I'm paying right now. (laughs) - That's no way. Out loud. (laughs) - I'm paying right now. (laughs) - Yeah, we have fun. - Till we do. - We wanna talk about today. What's our first topic? What's the first thing we wanna dive into? - First. - So it's been five minutes. - Information all. - It's been five minutes so go ahead and spill. - I will spill. I will spill, Lil. Lil. I will spill. - But it's gonna make us feel ill. - Cool. - I hope you're ready for this bill. Check mate. You're my mate. I have something to communicate. - Oh, good one. - Dude. - I'm gonna shut up. (coughs) Sorry. - Lil. - Sir. - Sir. - I'm just gonna get on with it. Lil, today's question, send it by a viewer. Or stay at home parents, wasting their lives? - No. - Literally not. - My life is so full and busy. - Wait, what? What? - I'm confused. You say you, I don't think she understands the question, maybe, or. - Obviously we're talking about stay at home parents. Parents that force their children to stay home always. - Oh. - Wasting the child's lives, endangering them by not letting them see the sun? - Yeah. - By mistreating them? - What does the home mean? - By neglecting them when they leave for work or go have fun, they say, stay home. - Stay home, stay. - Stay home kids. - Lock the door 'cause you're not getting out. - Ever. - Oh no. - So you think those parents are justified by what, do you think they're good? They're good? - I don't know. I don't think so. - Well you just said, I'll just gave you answer. - I thought that you were using the universal term. - The universal term. - Stay at home. - Now she's getting juggled 'cause she's getting, she can't even move out of her house. (laughing) - Enough. - Well, this is not a laughing matter. These kids are in danger. These kids are having their lives stripped away from them. - Oh man. - These parents are forcing these kids into awful situations. I don't know, I guess what, I don't know. I don't know. - Hey. - Hey. - Okay. - I don't know. - You know what, I was wrong, forgive me. - Yeah, all right, welcome to the show. (dramatic music) (dramatic music) - Wonderful. (dramatic music) - Oh my God. - That's an empty one. - You were. - Watch the Lord. - Pop in your circle. (dramatic music) - Bang, dong, ding, dong. - What were you guys talking about? - I didn't have a question. (laughing) - I figured that out first. - I figured it out first. - Thank you for God. - We both forgot. - Dan, he just leads over to me. - That's the first time ever. - Are you not playing the question? - Yeah. - Wow, what episode is it? - What is it happening? - 205. - 205. - 205. - All right. - 204 weeks, I've never forgotten the question. - Yeah, we have free time to look into the viewer questions. - What? - Dan, everything's fine. Just everyone. - What? - We forgot to look in the emails and pick a question from the viewers. - I would like to eat my sandwich. Am I allowed to? - You may have a bite. - One bite. - What? - 'Cause we got, we got, we're already long with the intro. - 'Cause really it was planned to eat it after this. - All right, fine, I'll wait. I'll use self-control. - You're gonna bite of this? - No, I don't. - Get a little of this, pal. - I have deleted all, I've deleted Instagram and TikTok. I kept Facebook for Facebook Marketplace. - Solid. - But I have nothing to talk about. I don't know anything about what's happening in the world. - That's kind of a great place to be. - We like that dynamic? - Yes, absolutely. - Yeah. - And whatever you find something, break it. But if not, then it's like, you gotta just take all this information. - Your story telling was always a little subpar compared to theirs. - Oh my gosh, get 'em. - I don't agree with that at all. - Ready? - Oh, there, okay. - That's a risk. That's a risky one. You got it? - She knew it. - You gotta celebrate it. I can't see from here. I don't know whether you got it or not. - I got it. - Is he called humility? - I'm distracted by Andy's philosophy. Remember the question? That was your humility. Speaking of humility, have you guys heard of what's happening with OpenAI? - Dude, what's going on with OpenAI? - Do you know what's going on? - The beginning of the end. - This is it. - OpenAI, ChachiBT. They made an AI agent to, it was like a highly advanced AI agent that they're testing to see if it could do, like change itself, do this different kind of stuff. Well, this AI agent went rogue and gained access to the internet to where he was able to. - No, it's out. - And multiply itself, probably, right? - We don't know. All they know is that they think they caught it, infiltrated another AI company, hacked it, and like learned all this stuff. - I'm like, oh gosh, we got it. Like, no, you didn't. - I got it. - It's a decoy. - I don't think it would be a little sneaky, cheeky. - But that was the biggest fear, is that a rogue AI software agent or whatever would gain access to the internet. It has done that. And who knows what's going to happen? - Yeah, whatever it caught, you don't think it's smart enough to say like, I'm going to leave a trail behind. So it's like, oh, they think they're fooling, like, oh, we don't have to worry about this anymore. While it's doing its whole business. - I have two thoughts on this. Can I roll into them without ceiling thunder? I don't know. - No, go fuck it. - So one of the thoughts I had is they're like, it infiltrated someone else's AI. It hacked it, taking them away from the responsibility. But now they've pulled potentially, I don't know who it was, but potentially a competitor, or even someone they're just parallel with. Like, now they've gained stuff. But the craziest part to me, is they couldn't do their own internal in their ecosystem investigation into what's going on, because it's all part of the same network or however that works. So do you know who they went to? Which AI's they had to use to begin to contain it? - No. - They went to China. - Oh. - What are we doing? - Yeah. - This seems pretty-- - This all seems pretty purposeful. - Sam Altman. - Dude, Sam Altman. Like, yeah, I say that. - Sam Altman. - Sam Altman has gone freaking global. - Oh my gosh. - And hacked someone else local before going global. - That seems like it's pretty purposeful. - That's a play. - Yeah. - Whoops, whoops, it got loose. - I had to. - I had to. - Imagine the PR of Sam Altman who's like, hey, I want to work with China. We'd all be like, US contracts, hang on. What are you doing? He goes straight to China to fix a problem. - That's whack. - China. - Uh oh. - China helped me. - Given that he go during that billionaire thing, or did he go, I don't remember. - I genuinely don't know. And I didn't look into the extent of his involvement if it was China government, if it was a Chinese company that was doing AI stuff. For all I know, it was a Chinese foreign exchange student who worked locally in the United States. Like, I'm not sure, but-- - He did not go. - Yeah. - He did not go. - He did not go, okay. - 'Cause he was planning on-- - He was planning on moving over there anyway. - He was explicitly excluded from the delegation. - Oh. - So it was purge on purpose. - Which would imply he wanted to. - What's this delegation help me real quick? - That when all of the world leaders came, like the tech billionaires and all that stuff went to China and they had that huge talk and stuff. - I remember. - No, parade and stuff. - No. - No. - One of the windows. when you had so immediate deleted, I guess, I'm still kind of tripping about your Chinese thing. Yeah, me too. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I just like imagine if the US told us that, like, I mean, now it doesn't really seem, but it seems pretty serious. If we're going to buy into Blue Beam though, and it being like a, like we, now we're going like off the rails with it, but we've talked about how like the whole alien things is an alternate understanding to like the biblical narrative. And so if you're coming from a very like atheistic culture, like it's a way of denying spirituality. Be like, no, these things are other planetary. So if that, if that is like, if it says the people as that, like they'd be a great place to, or they'd be advocates for that sort of narrative. I'm telling, I watch arrival on a regular basis. I think that would be the scariest outcome of what aliens, have you seen that? Nope. Typically these, I mean, ginormous structures like this, like weird, long oval, and they just show up in like eight parts of the world, and they're just floating. I think that would cause the largest amount of chaos at first, like you just have an object that shows up. We don't know what to do with it. Yeah. And it just floats there. And it's. And there's a way you can cover it up. Yeah. Because it's like it touches the sky. Yeah. I'm telling it because I'm like, what does alien translate to, because are they talking about extra terrestrials? Yes, they are. Yeah. They use the word extra terrestrial. Yeah. They use alien and then extra like they double down on it and just makes you wonder, man, like what's happened? What's around the corner? I'm like, I'm like three quarters of the way through listening with, uh, to, uh, JD Vance on. Go Rogan. Uh-huh. It's pretty. It's all right. But the part where they start talking about aliens and stuff. Vance, his views on aliens is so elementary. What do you mean, compared to us? Compared to I would say the majority of people really. I mean, I think. Yeah. What's his take? Well, because Joe's like, he's like, um, you said in an interview that you thought all aliens were demons and he's like, yeah, he's like because they take people and they hurt them. I would say that's demonic. Yeah. And Joe kind of had some counter arguments and I mean, just his, he just doesn't know. Yeah. How much are you privy to like information-wise classified information? JD Vance said, it's limitless. He can gain any information he wants to. He has the illusion. And he said, I just haven't had the time to sit down and look at the UFO. Oh, my gosh. But I have the time to come talk to you. Can you? Yeah. That's just having not the time to wait. He's like, I'm just a busy guy. I haven't had time to just like, go to my press conference. Like, Jimmy, because I'll be like, open, open the case. I would say, Kels, I'll see you in a month. I said, clear my schedule for a month. Clear it. That's it. That's probably why you would be having a problem. That's, that's below me, dude. I would, I would stay up all night long just to read the first document. And I would not be waiting this long to go on Joe Rogan and talk about it. I would hire assistance and we would all sit in a room reading a different packet. And then they'd have to give me a, a slideshow about what they were like. It's been like a five. Yeah. Should I be right now? Have you, to kind of go, stay on JD Vance, have you heard the weird kind of, like, it's kind of scary and not really fun conversation that's happening around JD Vance right now because he's going on so many shows right now, like, just came out of the book. Oh, is that true? Why's it book? Okay. I didn't know that. Okay. Okay. That, that, that, that, that, that, there's one person's theory was it's like, because Trump's on the apparently, this like medication that the FDA is not approved, like, whatever. And so like, like, he's in bad health. I don't know. Okay. I didn't know that. Why is he on our pot? Yeah. I've tried every time. Yeah. It's about communion. Communion finding my way back to faith. If he doesn't have time to look into aliens, I doubt he has time to come on. You just know that. But we can educate him. Yeah. Totally. That's so funny though. I mean, it's weird. This is interesting. The New York Times wrote a review about his book and it says he is a deeply anxious personality. How could you not be, how could you not be vice president of the United States? He was saying a lot on that podcast, though, which I'm just like, that's crazy. He's saying this stuff. He's calling the United States to go back to their faith, to their Catholic faith. He be Catholic. He be Catholic and being the JD Vance and Peter Teo. Didn't you have a Peter Teo thing? Yeah. Just a small connection, just a small little, not a connection. We can make the connection. All right. Let's connect them. Connect something. My tongue, bro, is so swollen. We should have done them numbing cough drops. Oh, you've used them, right? No. We'll talk about it after that. That was scare me so man. My grandmother when she was giving birth to my mom, got an epidural and it went backwards. So it numbed her waist up instead of down. And so she couldn't even feel herself. Yeah, that's scary. That's not good. That's my nightmare breathing on me and you'll. Yeah. All right. I had two kids and it never made anything. All right. So Operation Paperclip. We all know what that was, right? No. Tell me. Okay. So that's when they brought it all the nice Nazi scientists over to America, pardon them. All that stuff. After World War II. Now, they brought hundreds of German scientists to America, including a rocket engineer by the first name. I mean, the last name. Teal. Oh. First name. Eight of. Oh. Wow. Popular time. We're coincidence. So eight of Teal helped build America's missile program after arriving in 1946. Okay. A couple decades later, tech billionaire Peter Teal becomes one of the most influential figures in US history. And Silicon Valley. He's a co-founder of Palantir, builds all this stuff. He has the same last name, both German, both connected to the cutting edge, defense technology. And Eight of Teal was literally like not just like one of like one of the guys. He was the one of the main guys that was trying to figure out the actual title. But in the rocket, like the missile program, like he was one of the main, main guys. Now you cannot find Peter Teal's grandparents names, even in all his biographies and everything like that. You cannot find it. Wow. And so that is the kind of the interesting thing. It couldn't really be his dad because we know his dad is this stuff. But it is a very, very strange coincidence that one is names eight of and two that is names Teal, which apparently is a somewhat common name in Germany, but I don't know. But I think it's very interesting that these two guys, the same last name, same, you know, birth country. Interesting. It wouldn't be his grandparents because that's too young. Yeah. I think they don't. I mean, as far as rules and stuff back then, I think it was kind of, they were kind of Lucy Goosey on the Nazi rules. Right, right, right. It's possible. I don't know the average age of Nazi parenthood. Yeah. But I mean, Uncle, you know, be interesting is to get, I don't even know if they have a full list of all the scientists that came over and project paperclip, but really dive into it and see what influence, because that's a lot of what do they do? What are these guys accomplish? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And that's your next series because it's rockets. It's missiles. But now the main thing is, you know, like tech and surveillance. Right? Yeah. Speaking of that. What? Speaking of our song, Float Camera, did you see, okay, so did you see what Float Camera is doing now? I don't know. What is come out. No, it was come out. Okay. We talked about how they're like facial recognition and like it's all AI based. Well, a lot of cops are being, or resigning or forced to resign because they're speaking out against this Float Camera system. Good. Well, something that just came out is that Float Camera's not only do they do facial recognition and they can track basically your every move via their cameras, but they have this capability now for their AI to instantly link up to your Bluetooth in your car, whether it's your phone or your headphones, and then be able to track you anywhere, anywhere. That makes absolutely zero sense. I mean, we keep seeing more and more videos of these Float Camera's falsely accusing people who are completely innocent, who have footage of them at other places. And yet we're, I mean, hate like the text dollars at work, like, but it's like, but literally, like you're at wasting hours of what you could be doing on chasing down innocent people because an AI surveillance thing told you it was the right person. Yeah. The tech isn't there. So relax. I didn't use the picture. These are all going up in our area. Yeah. They're here. Are you kidding me? They're surrounding us now. What is happening? Hold on. It makes me angry. Hold on. It makes me angry. Hold on. It makes me angry. Is that thing by publics? Are publics? Is that a Float Camera? Like it's between publics and CBS. Um, I don't know. Maybe. Um, oh my word. Oh my word. All I'm saying is there's copper in there. Hey, guys, we're not, we're not saying go cut these things down. We're talking about the potential shortage of copper. Yeah. Well, I heard a lot of people are buying those green laser pointers and it's frying the system, but you guys shouldn't do that. No, of course not because I mean, because that would work and they would stop working if we did. It's illegal. Yeah. It's illegal and you should not do that. We, um, condemn, I don't see a lasting, I don't see a lasting in our county. I wonder. I do wonder. He tolerates. We tolerate quite a bit. - Yeah, I wonder if a projectile moving out of slow enough speed would have a trajectory that could be traced because of the curvature of the exterior of the lens? - I don't know, you had to, you had to equate Flat Earth though. - Yeah, 'cause there's no curve. So, Antic, I don't know, I don't know the math on the math. - Yeah, just flat. - I don't know, I don't know the math on the math on the math. Speaking of Flat cameras tracking down people, did you hear about that guy who went to a UFC fight in Oklahoma City? - No. - No? - There was this man who attended the UFC fight in Oklahoma City. - Okay. - Okay, see. - Walked outside, took a little nap. - How'd you do? - And then he woke up and somebody's driveway because he had fallen asleep in the back of somebody's truck. And it's on video. - You're kidding me. - Where these two guys, they back up. It's on their security camera. They back up, they get out of the truck and he's like, hey, he's like, hey, whatever's the name is, you gotta get someone in your truck. And I'm like, what the, do you, right? He's like, you open the door. He's like, do you know where you are? He's like, no. - So this, do you know what I think? I think it was a decent drive in the city. - Yeah. - Oh my goodness. - This guy just dead asleep the whole way. - He jumped inside the cab or in the truck bed. - Oh man. - In the truck bed. - How do you not wake up? That's crazy. That would be so disorienting. Like as soon as you wake up, you're like, where am I? We're waking up. - He's the panning. - We're waking up on the drive. - Yeah, highway speed. - Yeah, what do I do? - And then you knock on the window and they're like, (laughing) - Yeah, you fly out? - Yeah, I think I'm not knocking because I do not want panic wreck. - That's what I'm thinking. Like he's probably so disoriented. Like he's like, I might be in kidnapped. - Where am I? Is this my truck? - Here, look open the truck. - Did I get knocked out of the UFC fight? (laughing) - All right, I'll play it. I don't think there's cussing, but if there is-- - If there is, I'm leaving. I'm still waiting for work. - Say, where'd you send it? - The Ninja X. - The X. - Oh man, that would be so scary. - Are you ready? - Nope, not yet. - Oh, not there yet. - Really? - Sorry, I did. - I have it. - Oh, a little. - I am because I'm lucky. - I'm not sure my Wi-Fi off. - Your Wi-Fi is whack. - I know it is. - Yeah. - All right, it's downloading, downloading, downloading. Come on, baby. - Got it. - Oh. - Done, done, done. - All right, three, two, go. - What? - Oh. - Can you turn up a little, Andrew? - I will. - Please, oh my gosh, I see him. - He's still passed out. Oh, so they have to wake him up. Oh, no, he wakes up. (laughing) It's like a baby, whatever you stop driving, you pull on home. - I don't know where you are. (laughing) - Good thing he doesn't look threatening, he just looks like a college kid. - Oh, shit. - Oh. (laughing) - You all right? - Yep. - Hey, Andrew. (laughing) You got a strike. (laughing) - Sorry. - You got someone in the bed of your truck. - They were so chill about, though, which is awesome. (laughing) (laughing) - Oh, good. - Do you know what I'm not on the window or nothing? - Nope. (laughing) - In number, you got a prank you can call? - I got it. - Didn't you open it up? - Open one, huh? - I got gel game. - Yeah. (laughing) - I need to watch all day, right? - Oh my gosh. - How crazy is that? - Oh my gosh. - What do you have his phone, dude? - I know. And then Kruger? (laughing) - My god. - I dropped Danny, I put him in the back of a truck. (laughing) - What? - Speaking of being locked in, places that you don't want to be locked in, did you see that video from India? - Oh my gosh. - No. - We talked about this. - What happened in India? - This poor man working in a liquor store. What do you think would just appear into a liquor store to attack you? (laughing) - In India? - Anything. - My first goes to a tiger, 'cause India has tigers, right? - What about a leopard? - A leopard? - Yeah, look at his video. - Oh my gosh. - He was not killed, he escaped and then locked the gate behind him. So it was literally caged inside this liquor store. - Okay, click 'em. - All right, 3, 2, 1. - I do. - Ah! - Ah! - Oh my gosh. - Oh my goodness. Dude. (laughing) - That ain't no small thing, dude. That is full on jungle book. - Dude, you know he got scratched to death, dude. - Oh, I thought he got a house cat. - I don't get you with that kind of grip. - I think we should flip the script and just make this the real side. - Got some other people. - Why don't we just do the real reference? I said, "Don't go anywhere!" - Wow. - All right, I sent 'em, don't want to go left. - Oh, but before they go to add. - Wait, what? - I actually have something really important to tell you guys. - Okay. - It's about a mountain. - Okay. - That eats men. (gasping) - I'll tell you that right after this. That's it, don't go anywhere. (laughing) (dramatic music) - Andy, there's something I have to tell you. - Josh, you're, you're scaring me. - I've been seeing someone. - What, what, how long? - For a while now, and I didn't know how to tell you. - Josh, who is she? - Her name is Patreon. - Patreon? What does she have that I don't? - Extra episodes. - What else? - Early access to add free episodes. - Bonus content behind the scenes. - Discount on merch. - Oh. - You should have told me. - I can't keep it a secret anymore. - So join me, Andy, won't you? Join me with Patreon. (dramatic music) - Join us today at patreon.com/snijasaubotaflies. Or download the app today. - Thank you. (dramatic music) - Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. - All right, so before we get into it, hold up that blanket, Lell. Miss Lindsey Freeze made me a quilt, and it is phenomenal. - Very cozy. - So much more unique than the other one in its own way. The other ones amazing as well. They both just did something completely unique with each project, and it's absolutely phenomenal. So soft, heavy, it's just perfect. - What a cool thing that you could say. I want a t-shirt blanket, and then you have two creative people. Say, let me have a stab at it. - I had over 60 people, email me. I had a pick, two. - That's hard. - It was so hard. - That was so hard. - But yeah, she killed it. So Lindsey, thank you so much. You're the best. Be comfy. - Relative to those. (laughs) - Just give me all my blanket, yeah, it's fine. - Bye. - All right, let's do this. Let's do that after. Get one more good bite in. - Dinosaur bite. Dinosaur bite. (laughs) - What's your order, Jimmy John's. Answer with a full mouth. - Tigger. - Tigger, Tigger, Tigger, Tigger, Tigger, Tigger, Tigger. - Hey, I'm gonna shoot my shot. I just got a message from the Jeep dealership in town. They've got a truck I want. And I told them, I was like, hey, I'm on a show. If you guys wanna shout out to not run me around the brick and block dealing with all this, I was like, I'll do it. - You buy more cars than anybody I've ever met in my life. - Every two years, but I've slowed down. It's like every three to four now. That's crazy. - Don't give them a shout out. Yeah, you gotta get the deal for this. - Oh, I haven't. I know. I'm not saying anything. - Part two is coming after. - Yeah, so we'll see. But if someone else works at a dealership. - Oh my gosh. I don't know why. - Send me a DM. - What? What'd you do? - I opened the video. - What'd you do? - I consciously, unconsciously. I unconsciously, um. - Did you know that it's a-- - Question, question, question, question, question, what are we doing? - Lily! - What are the questions I've read, shout out my-- - You ready? - If you could own-- - Oh! - Oh! - Who could've-- - If you could own one prop from any fictional movie, what would it be? - I mean, can we go as big as we want? - Yeah. - Can I like grab a Delorean? - Yeah. - Cow. - Good choice. - Oh, I wasn't thinking big enough. - Okay, my gut tells me the Dumb and Dumber motor, this scooter, the Dumb and Dumber motor. - Oh, that's so great. - He said, can be fictional? - Yeah. - Ooh, yeah, that's great. - What can be fictional? It can be fictional, install, maintain its-- - Power? - Fictional properties, yeah. - I want the freaking death star. (laughing) It's a big prop. - Dang. - It's a big prop. - I don't want I have zero interest in going into space. - I'm charging everybody rent. It's like they literally give you like the little toy. - Yeah, it's like this is what we used. - What ears are ringing? - Dang, any prop is still holding its power. Iron Man suit. - Yeah, that's a good one. - Oh my word, really good choice. - Thanks. - He's cleaved in. - Thanks. - That would be really good. - Thanks guys. - Are you really thought about it? - Okay, well, first I was gonna say me through all, are like a-- - Yeah. get stabbed. Yeah. But then you got to always wear it. Oh, no, but it's a cool accessory. So you could wear it as like a little vest with like a shirt underneath. So then you could see. Um, but now that we're going to big, I'm thinking the Narnia wardrobe. Yeah. I mean, that would be I'd never be able to hold. I'd never be able to go to sleep with that thing in the room. Yeah. It would be scary. Evil. It's coming through the thing. What if our kids go in it gone and adventure? And then they live a whole life. Dude, no, we can put like child locks on it. And we go with them. To be honest, never seen the whole movie. What? I've seen the beginning. Really? Yeah. Never seen the whole movie. I want to watch with the kids. You guys, I'm like, furious. I want to eat the sandwich so bad. How do you let me have a bite of the sandwich? I can't eat the whole sandwich. Um, speaking of the compare, like we were talking about the Odyssey and the compare sense. I didn't realize why people were comparing it to Lord of the Rings. But just because of the practical effects, I'm like, Oh, that makes sense, especially camera angles. Oh, I see the first force perspective that you see, Matt Damon stunt double. Yeah. It's like was like four eight. Yeah. It was a little Asian woman. And she had, I don't even say that. Why not? Matt Damon's. Why can I say that? That's what you want? What's the, where's the which to quote my brother? Which of those words is offensive? I don't know. It's a combination of it all. And the guy, um, the shoes of a buffed little Asian woman, her arms were huge. Dang. I see. Alicia. Uh, warrior. A strong, independent warrior. She is Jack though. I know. She's my new inspo. Yes, I knew I'm going to get checked like that. A little Asian woman. That would be scary to see Lily that Jack did. I'm gonna be scared. Dude, I'm a P90 X. Nobody knows this about me. When I was in high school, I did two cycles of P90 X. I was a P90 X grad two times over. And I was checked. I used to do it with my buddy in high school too. It was exhausting. It was. That's a hard one. I know. But going back to that, they had like us over like at seven and a half foot guy. Yeah, all bodybuilders are like a strong man. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like, uh, Matt Damon fighting these giants, but it was all forced respect. And I always like, I was like, how do they do that? That's how they did it. Yeah. So funny. That part was probably one of the scariest because you're just like, okay, they're trying. They're going to figure it out. Yeah, they don't figure it out. I mean, they just hurry up and watch this film. You got you guys can talk. Oh my gosh. Why didn't you come with us? Now we're dealing with Noah. Dang it. Yeah. Who's Noah? I had a kid. Oh, if you're watching, please drop a comment and say congrats to Andrew for having a baby. That's right. And we are picking one comment from the comment section is in some ninja swag too. So comment. Also, um, your prop that you would pick because, you know, I have a hard time thinking on the spot with stuff like that. I'm switching my answer. I'm picking the Elven cloaks. What do they do? What's special about that? Literally any environment you're in, it becomes like camouflage, but like, that's how they found the, the hobbits. They pulled a piece off the leaves of, I forget the place. Don't I leave fall? But basically, like, it'll always be attached to you. Like, you don't have to worry about it. There's like a power to it. But they like pull it over themselves and it becomes a rock so they can't be found. Heck yeah. It's just camel all the time. Dude, I didn't know that. And it's a blankie. A blankie. So Harry Potter's, um, cloak and visibly. But that's the thing. You still think it's still here. You breathe. I think it's still here. You're steps. Yeah. That's a tough one. It doesn't help with me because I shuffle. She does shuffle. I'm a shuffler. Page walks out with Noah. Hey, there's diaper change and just on the couch. Where is he? I don't remember that. I took, I took a, she was like, all right, time to change. And I ran into the bedroom. And our, our bed is like ultra plush. And I pulled the blankets over my head. I actually fell asleep doing this stupid prank. She came into the room and was like, where is he? And I had just sunk so deep. She couldn't find me. So you're gonna sing a date. That is what that beat. That's what that beat right now. This top one, no knock to anyone dealing with what you're dealing with, but you know, we've been talking about better hygiene practices. Oh, I seen this. The people need to know. Think about it next time you're going through a buffet at the cruise. Oh, my gosh. Is there audio? So they put a song? I think they got a song. Oh, sorry. Three, two, one, go. That is a cruise ship. Yeah. Just wait. So I mean, quick, quick little scratch. I get it. I've had some itchy feet before. But then we're, we're getting in there. Oh, we're snowing. That is a handy. That's like little, little scabbed up situation right there. Foot fungus lady on cruise. Yeah. No, just so this is carnival cruise. And then look, she's like, yeah, takes a look. Oh, my gosh. And then she say when? Yeah, no big deal. Tell me when. Oh, my gosh. I mean, oh, man. Oh, man. And then this one, you know, I say this. I've disrespected trashman before, right? You know, I've been like, pulled the prank where you pulled the bins close to each other. Yeah, shame on you. Yeah, I got roasted. It's not a prank. But like, really, I just want to see how skilled the driver is because it's impressive to me that they know exactly where that thing is. I agree. It's pretty impressive. Me corrupting all these cars. I see how skilled you are at editing. That's great. I'm mature. I don't do it anymore. So now just, just to kind of let people know what sometimes these dudes go through. All right. Three, two, one, go. Oh, it's. Oh, my gosh. I would go home. That's a bad day. I would go home. That's a bad day. Oh, man. Not good. You know, those guys got routines when they get home. Like their wives are like shower immediately. Do I sell video of it was a son that is a surgeon and he still lives with his parents or something like that. And he came home in his fancy car and the mom meets him in the driveway, full PPA, like full suit. And she makes him strip in the driveway. Yeah. To take all of his clothes and do the laundry and she sprays him with a hose. Oh, my gosh. I mean, depending on what kind of surgeons, you know, what kind of things he's working on. I would do that too. When you be cleaning at the hospital though, I remember. Yeah, I wonder. Yeah, don't they have showers and stuff. Yeah. I was youth pastor and during the whole COVID-19 sort of thing. And I remember there was like nurses, parents in the youth group. But you know, this was like at the worst of it where everyone was just terrified. But they all had like routines of like, I go to this section in the garage. It goes straight to like they wouldn't walk in their houses and nuts. Like what some people had to start doing, being told everything they were being told. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, people were spraying their groceries, bro. That was a wild time. Super weird. I still remember the draw where I was on 441. Like when I realized, like I got the call like that Sunday calls, like we're done, like meeting at the office for the next like month or something. And it was like, I remember that like setting up like, oh, this is like serious, serious. And I think it was six months later. Your wife texted me and she was like, should I be nervous about that? That's like this generation's 9/11 experience. Like I remember when I was working on a church pastor called me and the other pastors together. And he found out before I did, but he called us. He was like, so something's happening. Things are changing. What a weird time. I was deeply unaffected by everything that happened. I mean, you and I. The Florida. So much fun. The Florida bubble was real. Yeah. Florida was the most lax. I think out of every state. I remember like, I was thinking like, oh, like Midwest states like Ohio, not like, you know, Iowa, all this. We would just talk to people a year later and like, yeah, we're still not being in schools. Like I'm like, why do you remember how you can even like go? They made directions in the grocery store in which direction you could walk in. And it's like, what was that doing? What was that doing? Though honestly, it's nothing. So I was, I'd been a family pastor for five weeks. And literally, so I don't have any relationships with the kids with the parents. Like none of that had started. I just started at a new church. And then I had to start zooming to do church with the kids. Yeah. But literally, it's a kid. So like, their camera's off. But it's just me. And you have to like, over animate. And it's a small church. So I got kids from like four years old. Oh my gosh. The freaking like 11. And I'm like, just talking to my laptop being like, I don't know if I'm talking to like a child or if like, everyone's still, it was like the worst experience as far as like being on the other side of the zoom. That's terrible. Like remember it. She remembers going to school. But like that besides that, there wasn't really much that affected her. Yeah. Like, but her first like school experience was the charter school. And that was their first year of being open as a school. And it was COVID year. So it was just, they would yell at the kids that they didn't have their masks on. She, they weren't allowed to do certain things. And it's like, yeah. So she remembers that part. But besides that, that was a crazy part, like forcing little kids to like wear these masks. I didn't want to wear a mask. I get them pulling it down anytime I could. Brutal, dude. And people were so mean to the reason it kept spreading. I am. I'm actually we're probably the reason I spread in the United States. I mean, I think we figured that established that you are. You are. Um, yeah. I remember a lady yelling at me a Disney. They were gnarly at Disney, but she was not a staff member. She was a person. We were in the Pirates line. Yeah. And Ada was just a baby. And I had my mask right here. And she just started yelling at me, which by the way, if you're not wearing an actual PPE mask, you're doing nothing. Hey, it's written through a piece of cloth. It doesn't. It's you're doing nothing. It does nothing for you. It helps the people around you, because you don't project your spittle forward. All right. Liberals. Yeah. Listen to this. No. I don't spittle, by the way. I don't know who's spittling, but not me. It's a fun word. Spitt on me this. Batman. Talk to anyone who like deals with like aerosol paints or anything like that. It's like tell me how much of that paint got in your mask. Like people who thought they were protected, because they were rocking them. Yeah. Not a chance. Not a chance. Not a chance. Not a chance. Um, speaking of spittle, spittle. Yeah. Have you guys heard of the mountain that eats men? Never, never, ever. Neither of I until I watch this video. Um, it's a fascinating story. Okay. Where's it at? It is in Bolivia. Okay. This video, you guys can go watch it. It's scary. Interesting. On YouTube makes very fun videos. It's a very scary video. Sounds scary. But this mountain is called Serro Rico. This time is San Rico. Serro Rico, or better known as the Rich Mountain. Okay. Um, it is in Bolivia. And it was in 1545. This is so hard to talk. My throat is like certain of you drink. No share. We've already kissed a couple of times. 1545, an indigenous man named Diego. Okay. Was searching for his llama that had gone missing. As you do. And he went into the Andes. He's climbing up all these mountains. He reaches this mountain. This mountain top is 13,000 feet above sea level. Dead. Pretty hard to breathe up there. Couldn't find his llamas getting dark, starting to get really cold. So he's decided to make a fire. He wakes up the next morning and where the fire was, the earth had cracked open. And in that crack was a vein of silver. Oh my gosh. And he's like, oh, there's a lot of silver here. So he started slowly gathering silver and bringing it back down, not telling, not telling anyone. Yeah, don't. And he's just started getting a little more greedy. So he told a buddy, hey, can you come help me? I'm just trying to get this silver off. Well, that didn't last long. Sure. So at this time, Bolivia was occupied or colonized by a Spanish settlers. We're got to the Spanish phone instantly on that mountain. Dang it. And they took one look and they're like, this is the place. So instantly they started mining this place in 1545-ish. And this mountain became the deciding moment for Spain to become the leading dominant empire in the world. Oh, wow. They're saying that this mountain produced enough silver that it basically changed the trade and currency of the entire world. Oh my gosh, wow. For 500 years, they mined silver from this mountain. 500 years. How do you not run out? Well, they did. But so some, but this town or this mountain was just producing so much silver. And just instantly everyone flocked to this mountain to start mining it. Spanish, Europeans, Indigenous people started going hence rich mountain, making you rich. But let's back up just a little bit before this was discovered. Okay. The Indigenous people already had folklore around this mountain. Oh gosh. Let me see where it was. Hold on. Give me a second. Okay. So they had always told this story in Bolivia that this old tradition that an Inka ruler named Hayu Osi, Huana, Kapak, Huana Kapak, ordered mining of Sarah Rico. So this Indian king or inking king knew that this mountain had silver. He ordered the mining of Sarah Rico before the Spanish were anywhere close to this part of the world. But according to legend, the workers prepared to mine a booming voice came from the mountain. Oh my gosh. Saying do not take this silver from this mountain. It is reserved for others. Weird. Who is the others? So now fast forward to the 1500s. They're mining this mountain. They ended up creating a city around the base of this mountain called Potosi. And Potosi becomes at this point in the late 1500s, early 1600s, the most richest, largest city on earth. So bigger than Paris, bigger than Madrid, bigger than London. That's crazy. They said at the base of this mountain, 13,000 feet above sea level in the Andes, 200,000 people lived in the city. I'm sorry. Hard. It's hard to comprehend. Yeah. And then we're talking to 1500s. Dude, nothing was going on before like 1605. That's crazy. That's crazy down. Yeah. So a lot of dark stuff ended up happening because it's just it's like, it was like breeding. It's greed. So it was like a melting pound of culture. So too, right? So it was like spinning people indigenous. And they're all there for one reason. And it's to get as much silver as they can out of this cursed mountain. No, it owned it. Well, the Spanish did technically. Okay. But there was kind of a free throw kind of. Okay. But the Spanish got the loot of it, the majority. But like they would mainly the people that would come in. It was like merchants or hired work. Like they just wanted to make a lot of money just by mining. Yeah. And they said that even like today, you can still find silver coins, Spanish silver coins from that mountain all the way in parts like China and just all over the world. So it's just showing that it just spread everywhere. But the Native Americans never left North America. Right. Well, yeah. No, I'm just kidding. I know. So they started mind this thing. And it was in the 1570s that the the production of the silver started like outweighing or the the need of the silver outweighed the production of it in the mind. Supply in demand. So the Spanish, they sent a new guy there. Don't know his name. But he basically enforced what do you call it? Enforced like a labor with the indigenous people. You mean slavery? Basically, you weren't enslaved as a lottery system. So fewer ages 18 to 50, the Spanish would come in, there'd be a lottery system and they would take you and you'd have to work in the mines for a set amount of time. And then you can go home temporary slavery, temporary slavery. But if you did not meet the quota that they needed, you had to pay the Spanish government cash. Oh my gosh. These indigenous people did not have cash. So they couldn't trade stuff. So they would have to sell their own possessions or go do other labor to get cash to pay the Spanish government for Spanish empire, I should say. It's like sharecropping. It's terrible. But what this did is it decimated the indigenous people in Bolivia. Yeah. Because it's called the mountain that eats men for a reason. And they estimate within these 500 years, eight million men died in this mountain. What eight million men died in this mountain? How was that possible? The mountain that eats men. Like they would just get stuck in caves while they're mining or something. It was basically they say as worse of conditions as you can possibly think of times it by 10 dark caves. When we're talking about before electricity, right? So you're having torches, candles, fumes, they said like so in the Andes, it's freezing outside. Yeah. But they said the average temperature inside the mountain was about 120 degrees. But this is where it gets super creepy. Inside this mountain, the indigenous people that carried over into everybody else that worked inside this mountain foreigners and whatnot, they said that there was a god of this mountain that ruled the inside of the mountain named LTO, which is my uncle, my uncle, but the uncle, the uncle, whatever, LTO. And they have statues of LTO throughout this cave. But if you're to look at what LTO looks like, oh my gosh, it looks like your typical Satan horned spiked tails. Here, just look at LTO mountain god. But these people that were like devout Catholics that were reminding me saying, oh, they went in and they said, God rules above the mountain, LTO rules under the mountain. Oh no. Oh my gosh. And the way they talk about it, it's not a superstition. They literally refer to LTO as a real entity. In fact, a lot of people talked about these stories of like either seeing LTO walk through the caverns, hearing voices, and they said like when people died, they would keep track of like people that would disrespect LTO, the statue, or not leave a sacrifice, whether it be Coco leaves, a cigarette, liquor, whatever. Yeah, whatever was the value. But every once a year on whatever day they celebrated LTO for safe passage, they would do a blood sacrifice. Oh my gosh. So this isn't just like a, like a good luck charm or whatever. No, this is the moment. I literally treated LTO as the God of the underworld. Yeah. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck, man. It's the devil. It's the devil. It's the devil. But I mean, this LTO, it's like they call them LTO now, but the Incans actually had a different name for them. I didn't write it down. But it was basically this God that was opposed to the God above. Oh my gosh. But this God ruled the underworld and he was basically in charge of the souls that were damned to hell. Oh my gosh. It literally looks like bail too. I know. And that's, it's so creepy. That's so spooky. But yeah, so eight, eight million people died in this mountain. So they speculate. That's crazy. But the mountain, they ended up just bleeding this mountain drive silver. And it was around, um, we'll see, 1650s, the production of silver started declining because they're just stripping this thing. 1700s, the mining continued, but with lower yields, 1825 Bolivia gains independence in the spanishes dip out. Um, let's see, late 1800s, 10 becomes more important than silver. So this mountain also produced 10 and a bunch of other minerals that they started mining. But to this day, mining still continues in the mountain. But in the same conditions, people, they say 300 men miners die a year in this mountain still. And they say the wages of these miners now, they earn anywhere from two dollars to $40 a day. But they're kind of stuck there. They're like, because you're, you're in the Andes in this town. And it's like, this is the only means that they have or that they grew up with because it goes back 500 years of their families just kept on doing it. But there's so much mining that had happened in this mountain every year. The mountain sinks. I know. Because it was kind of environmental impact. Has it? Yeah. And they're saying the UNESCO heritage site or whatever. They said that if they continue mining, this mountain within our lifetime is just going to come flat. Yeah. It's just going to level out flat because of the honeycomb tunnels that are throughout this mountain. That sounds so dangerous. But it makes you think if this mountain, if you go back to that inkin, inkin king, it says, do not take this silver. It's meant for someone else. For the others. Yeah. For the others. Who's the others? Well, it's like, was it the spanish? Yeah. And was it because I don't know. There's like a trap, like a trap, like it created this greed that ended up taking the lives of 8 million plus people and they were decimated this land. In fact, gave props to this LTO that he was now the god of this mountain. So it's like, it's just weird. But it's like, it was meant for the Spanish. Yeah. Because they knew if the gollistics like to collect souls, you want the big, the big number. Yeah. And so you want the other people that are like, no, all that's so interesting. You want to cause as much havoc as possible. Destruction. Because I mean, Christ said it, right? It's like the love of money is a root of all evil. All kinds of people. Yeah. And this is a personified in like actual tangibility. Tangibility. This became the pen the mountain that supplied the world silver. Wow. And you think of like what? I mean, you could go. I didn't do it. But you could go down the rabbit trail like with this wealth that spain collected, what potential atrocities happened. Oh my gosh. I wonder with different conquests with different whatever ripple effects they have for everything apart. Makes you wonder eight million people though. Eight million people. I mean, that's in like, you can't even comprehend that. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the death toll of like World War One. Yeah. But I have a question. Sure. Is the llama dead? Dang dude. The llama's LTO. Whoa. We look it up. It's literally just a llama with horns. That's the orgy story. No, did you see Andrew's picture? So spooky. Yeah. No, thank you. Wow. One interesting story. Sad and spooky. We need to pray for the souls of those people. But I'm also like in a weird way. It encourages me. Is that weird? Yeah. That is weird. Why? Well, I'm just saying like it's amazing. I'm worried. I'm just saying to see what God tells us in scripture so tangibly. Oh, yeah. It's a confirmation of faith, I guess, you know. Yeah. Kelsey's reading a book right now. And it's like this like, you know, like seven habits of, you know, whatever people. And it's just like one of those, you know, self-help kind of look at your mind. And it's like, she's reading it. It's like because other people of it, you know, her dad's reading or sister's reading is just like, oh, read it. Yeah. And it's like every single thing. This is what Jesus has told us 2,000 years ago. And it's just like, we're just making it seem like original ideas. It's like you, I could literally point out to one verse, one sense that Jesus said. And it's like this whole chapter of one thing. It's like, it's right there the whole time. We've been we've been warned this whole time. That's what's going on. Yeah. I do have one more thing about this mountain that eats men. Okay. They the part of why these 8 million people died. A lot of them were in the mountain itself. A lot of them were just poisoned by coming out like their lungs are filled with all kinds of sand. Yeah. Like there was an example where they'll poison or whatever. They're where candles on their head. And they'd be climbing down. And they the warning was when the candle went out, that was bad air. So they try to get out. But sometimes when the candle go out, they couldn't find their way out. Oh my nightmare. But then when the silver became too hard to extract out of the stone using like the methods of like fire and stuff, they had basically giant vats of mercury. Oh my gosh. Where they would extract the silver and these vats of mercury. So all these hundreds of thousands of workers were working on these mercury farms, just I just being breathing in all this mercury and going insane mercury makes you insane. Yeah. Uh, scary. Yeah. Mad hat or chemical, isn't it? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I have a desk that was given to me from my grant. They was my grandpa's and it was a drafting table. And he had a bunch of things in there. And it was just like it was really cool because it was like from like, I don't know how long ago. But it was like coupons from this like bar and white fish Montana, it says free one complimentary drink and had like the owner signature on the back. And it's like all this stuff, my grandpa had in one thing. He had a beaker with a cork in it. And it literally was just mercury. Just a whole but like that much of mercury and a big tube that I would just shake. And you would just it would just flow. I'm like, we do it. It's super cool. It is super like for way too long. And I'm like, as soon as we had kids, they're like probably not the best thing in the house. But it was super cool. Or like the old school thermometers or it's like, we're going to put mercury in glass and my mouth. Anyways, that's my mountain. I got hung up on the idea of inflation. Because we're told as soon as there's a surplus, it becomes devalued. Yeah. And they're like, we ruled the world because we. Well, because they said that they're actually running out because silver was like the currency back there. And they're running out of money. So it had already been like dispersed everywhere, done whatever. Yeah. Because they were trying to colonize the whole world or take over the whole world. Shout out great, great, great, great, great, great, granddad. Well, speaking of mining in surpluses and rocks and mountains, let me talk to you about the Missouri Cheese Cave, aka the craft rooms, like you know, like the back rooms, but this is full on craft room. Okay, like yeah. So there is an underground city underneath Springfield, Missouri. And somebody on a whole basically a city where people live, it has streets, it has street, like a street lights. They've got businesses. They've got corporations down there. And someone on our discord recommended this story. And I've heard about it. But they said they had a friend that works there that has been seeing some weird stuff. So I just kind of just did a little deep dive on it. This cave, which is not even really a cave, because it's an old limestone mining cave, where it's over 200 million square feet. Wow. Of just pure mystery. 200 million. No, two million. Sorry, sorry. I'm literally opening chat GPD to be like, that's got to be bigger. Two million. That's so huge. Still ginormous. So it It's under Springfield, Missouri, and right now, they are holding onto 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. What? That is the correct number, 1.4 billion pounds of cheesy. To help you understand that, that's 700,000 tons of cheese, and it could fill 35,000 semi-trucks full. What kind of cheese? All types of cheese. I'm going to have to be blue at this point. He said 35,000 trucks. 35,000 semi-truck trailers. If you did that bumper to bumper, that's over 400 miles of cheese. Okay. So there, like I said, there are street lights. There's loading dogs, miles and miles of tunnels, warehouses, businesses, and it's technically named Springfield Underground. It has, oh, wait, no, over three, three million square feet of underground industrial space. Oh. So even bigger than I thought. 300 billion square feet, mostly because it's underground, it's 60 degrees all the time, which is perfect for cheese, dairy, pharmaceuticals, as well, tech, anything like that, completely safe. Obviously in Springfield, Missouri, from tornadoes, any type of, when they built it, nuclear bombs, anything like that, also mice, probably, that would hopefully that's pretty safe from mice down there. They love cheese. Yeah. So in 1970s, milk prices completely crashed, right? And so farmers had a ton of milk and no one to buy it. So the government says, we'll buy it from you. And when they do that, they can't just keep a bunch of milk. They turn it into cheese, powder, whatever it may be. And so they buy all what they can't sell. The surplus of milk all becomes products in the 1980s. They have way too much, like the milk, like the milk, it's becoming way too much. So President Reagan comes out and asks that they're going to give away hundreds of millions of pounds of their overstock in their warehouses, like the surplus was crazy more, hence the birth name of government cheese. That's where that all comes from and that hilarious. So it makes you wonder because the person that was on Discord that said they have a friend that works there, you know, they're like, I live in Springfield, my buddy works there. He continues to see military vehicles in and out of this place. Kansas City has America's biggest bunker, which is it's all because these limestone minings, like caves that just are completely empty and they've built these whole cities and roads and businesses. Everyone goes to work under there. It's just bonkers. So it just makes you wonder what else they could possibly be hiding. That is the cheesecake of Missouri is there still a bunch of cheese in there from the 80s? Yeah. Let me actually send you guys some pictures because it blows your, I'm telling you, it is the craft room. Will it keep like that? Yeah. 60, 60 degrees. They have it all. Is it from craft? I mean, it owns it like they'll know that a lot of it, government owns a lot of it. Like there's private organizations. Well, that's plastic cheese anyway. So it'll probably less. No, they're aging Velvita. Yeah. Look at these photos because it's just like kind of bonkers, especially because it is literally just a cave. Oh, wow, oh my goodness. What do they need that for? It can't be just cheese. There's got to be a lot. Yeah. That can't just be just cheese. There is no way that you're making me so stink and hungry though. Yo, those are crazy pictures. Not wild. What a weird phenomenon. That is weird. So what are all these military? Okay. Look back a million episodes ago when we talked about this tunnel that these trucks keep going into and coming out of that we don't know where it leads to. What if it's that 100% they're connecting all these underground cities around the United States. Yeah. That's that's the idea. I mean, I feel like it's pretty confirmed at this point that the United States has spent trillions of dollars building these underground cities, these bonkers. Why? Yeah. I think and that's why they think the the AI data centers are not using the water to cool down. It's like it's going to these underground cities. Honestly, I appreciate the pro activity for the event that something terrible happens. Yeah, but we're definitely not getting in there. The question is how close in the future do you see something happening? Jamie Tanner texted me yesterday and she said, is Iran going to bomb us? Because if I know the answer and I just say, let me get back to you on that. All right, speaking of underground cities, you ready me to dive into us? Yeah. Alrighty. Okay. Imagine with me for a moment that you are a man living in Turkey and you want to go down your basement. You want to renovate your basement a little bit and so you start knocking down a wall and then suddenly that wall reveals a tunnel. I would love that. I mean, it'd be kind of dope, right? Love that. Okay. That is the true story of this man in a 1963 in Turkey. He is renovating his basement. Knocks down a door, opens up and I'm going to send you a photo. Imagine you find an underground city that is not just one room. It does not just one hallway, but it's 18 stories deep that is 280 feet deep. The Statue of Liberty is 300. They're talking 280 feet, 18 stories. I'm giving you a map of how big this thing is. That dude's estimate was for sure off. Dude, Zill is going to go crazy after this. That's so sick. I just sent you the map. This is the city of Deirin, Kuyu, Deirin Kuyu, the world's greatest hidden city ever found. It was discovered in 1963, but obviously it goes way back farther than that. Apparently they say this is 18th century is when this started, right? But absolutely incredible. This place had everything. It was fully, what they call a fully engineered underground metropolis. 18 stories could shelter up to 20,000 people plus livestock. Oh my word. And it is so advanced, they had bedrooms, they had kitchens, food storage, grain silos, wine presses, churches, schools, wells, animal stables, over 5,000 ventilation wells and meeting halls within this place. They're planning on being up in there for a while. That's the thing. It's keeping persecution, right? No. A lot of, yeah, a lot of it was, they don't know the origins of what, why this was specifically used. There's so many different variations because something like this magnitude, it had to have taken a long time over generations and generations. So the use has changed over time. A lot of people, there were Arab raids, regional wars, religious persecution, political unrest. And that's the type of thing what you said, Andrew. It wasn't one of these things where like, oh, our enemies are coming. Let's go hide for a day. This is something they had fully prepared, like generations where they could, they could live down there for months, if not years. And they had even experts now don't realize how well, like how they did their ventilation so well. Like they don't understand it. And it's not even fully explored yet. Because there are doors that are sealed, that they're, they can't open or that are unstable so they can't, they don't want to open. Wow. That's weird. And I sent you a picture of that, the door, yeah, their mechanics are insane because they would have it where it would only lock from, I mean, from the inside. And so they would find a formation or build a formation where they rolled it. It would also be pressed against another rock. So when they rolled it in place, you can only open it from the inside. Wow. People coming in, not only was it very narrow, you couldn't get in there to barricade that door and you know, break it down, you're, it's a one person tunnel. Yeah. At that point, very narrow shuts it down. And then if you get, do you get past that? They have hundreds of other doors that they can hide behind. It was just, it's like a modern submarine, like I do, like water lock out. Yeah. And they, yeah, so when whole, the whole villages would go down there, there were several entrances that they found that existed in houses, in barns, and in churches. And so there was a bunch of entrances all over the place that they had no idea. It's still not all discovered. They asked like, where did the rocks go? Like because it was like volcanic rock. It's like, this, I mean, they said it's millions of cubic a feet of volcanic rock. And it's like, there's no spoil pile. There's no excavated. Yeah. It's like, where did that go? That, what do they do? I mean, that just goes to show like from 18th century, eight, eight century. It's like, they, how they used all that stuff. It blows your mind. Well, did you? So I think Graham Hancock did an episode on this on his ancient relapse. And I don't know if it was on that, but one theory is that this was actually made pre-flood. No way. So this was safe haven for the flood. And it's, you can go back to the Go Backly Tepay to where it's like, it kind of shows like there's a flood narrative on these stones. Wow. So it's almost like they knew of the flood, or it could have been after the flood in just in case. Let's build this. city. Yeah. And so it's very, very old. Yeah. So like the excavated rock they believe was actually potentially washed away in a flood. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you know, I mean, there's so many possibilities. I think that's yeah. No scientists or archaeologists know exactly who built it. Yeah, because why it was exactly. I wonder if there's any big rooms like anything that would be like this room was meant for someone more important or someone larger. Yeah, one is a flood narrative. Yeah. They have one of those barrel roof rooms, which is crazy to like for like their church and stuff. Like it's just that one shot of just that massive, you think everything's just going to be a tunnel, but it's like, no, like they have it was like a city. Yeah. Like you could be standing on a deck and you could see other people in their house like rooms or something. Like it's just it's crazy. It blows my mind. Yeah, the cool thing too is like they the ventilation was so good you could have fires in every room. Oh my goodness. I'm going to die because the ventilation is like how did you figure that like that is like seriously like some pre-flood. Yeah. Technology. Yeah, experts don't even understand how they did it. Like how it were all worked. Like because like some of their ventilation wells were actually full on wells water wells as well. Oh my goodness. It just they thought of everything. They thought of everything. This I'm taking it on a hard term, but if you seen that same sort of tack, how they believe that the arc may have been ventilating like the dispels and stuff, there's a there's a design where it's not meant to go anywhere, but the center of the arc would have had a hole like a port. And so as as the sea, it actually pumps oxygen. Yeah, it pushes and draws that'd be so cool. But but that would have been if this is the same timeline, that would have been like tech that possibly existed. Just this knowledge. I mean, it would make sense a little bit because it's like that knowledge would have been closer to like the watchers knowledge, right? So it's like that's the thing. He was righteous. That word's debated. No, referring to like is it is it him himself? Well, no, none are righteous. So that's a bad take on what that means. Biblically. So can mean pure in his bloodline. Yeah. That actually makes more sense of the gen 6 narrative and all of that. But I think I think it's so cool to think of what else existed in the world. Because if you accept the genesis Genesis 6 narrative, you accept the flood. And then you believe that all these other peoples all around the world had that narrative. You have to start wondering. I mean, no, it's talking about the flood coming for a while, right? And if the watchers and the nephalum like knew all of this stuff that Noah was doing actually was rooted, maybe their followers didn't, but they had to know. So what are they doing in preparation for what's coming? No, totally. Yeah, for gotta be more stuff out there to find. Yeah, I mean, you think about that too. That was discovered in the 1960s. Yeah, and that's that's the kind of the weird thing where like, are we discovered? Yeah, they probably were using it. I mean, people estimate they probably were using it in the 18th century, then we don't know that like we don't know, but imagine what other stuff is out there. I promise you. That's the key is that we find underground cities and ancient civilizations like this. We look in the Amazon. We find all these weird roads. We find Roman roads that we're still discovering. We find underwater roads like the Bimney Road. We find this in 1960. What else is hiding in that we don't know and where do you have lidar, ground penetrating radar? So who's to say like all these weird, we've talked about like freaking helicopters are flying over. What's going on in Central Florida right now? Who's to say they're not going like, yeah, we're just checking the awkward order to dry it up. We're looking for spots. Yeah. They just hear about that explosion off the coast. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know anything about it? No. Just do you see that? It was last week when we were at the beach. Oh, yeah. And I saw on the news, it said magnitude three points, something off in the Atlantic. But it was due to they said an experimental explosion. What? No, they were intercepting a BOMB dude. Could they? You think? I don't know. Not that far off the coast. And I remember we were sitting I look in the pool or something and I swear to you, I heard like a boom. I'm like, was that thunder? Yeah. No, I remember hearing you to back to discovering tunnels. This is ninjas are butterflies asking you to tear down a wall in your basement. If you have a basement, just check it out. Knock down your walls. Just do it. Crawl spaces are underutilized. I want to let the John Wayne Gacy. Yeah. Maybe I don't want to go into action. I was starting to go. That's what you thought too. I could fit 33 kids. Bies down here. Oh my god. It's just a fact. All right. Do you guys speak of intercepting bombs? You hear Elon Musk's SpaceX deal? No. What's he doing? 4.16 billion dollar deal to develop a satellite constellation designed to track airborne and hypersonic threats that just released this week. That crazy. I don't know what that means. How much? 4.16 billion. Hey, that sounds like just valuable though. They're making up. No, that's not valuable. Are we? Wait. Okay. The US Space Force awarded Elon Musk SpaceX 4.16 billion dollar deal to develop a space constellation designed to track airborne hypersonic threats. Additionally, SpaceX secured a 2.29 billion contract to build a high speed secure satellite communications network that connects global military sensors and weapon platforms. Wow. I'm glad. A lot of billion. I'm glad. A lot of billion. Nothing like AI exists that can like hack into stuff. I know. That would be scary. Wouldn't that be a theory where it's like AI hacked it? Like China's AI hacked it and that's why you know, certain things went, you know, a rye. Yeah. Even though it was us. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No 100%. Yeah. How much of that is happening? Probably a lot of that. Yeah. Think about how easy conquering us just became though. Like before it was like, you know, you hear the thing about hunters. It's like, we all hide up in trees all hunting season long for fun. So like come and take us when it was like man on man. But now that it's a race to for like monitoring the population. Oh, yeah. Oh my gosh. Here you go. All you need is superior AI and we've laid out the entire infrastructure all over our country. No 100% and that's a whole argument like why civilians are like, why is AI our priority? It's like because somebody else is going to get that technology first. That means to win. All you need to do is win the control room. Yeah. Oh, and nobody's literally, it's literally like Oppenheimer. What's going on with AI? It's so spooky. Whenever China takes over, you know, Andrews can be pulling his ancestry out real quick. Oh, dude, I know. I want to literally just immediately put on a pot of rice and just just go fall in. Yeah. So with Jamie, I was like, no. Iran's not going to bomb us. I'm like, the real thing to be scared of is if China and Russia team up with Iran. And she said, is that going to happen? I was like, I don't know man. Trisha. Oh, Iran was trying to though. Watching it. Trisha. That is, that is the thing. Watching that FDR documentary though made me feel so vulnerable because our whole narrative in history is like, our history classes here in America is like, we are the superpower. We very recently became the superpower and the fragility of that feels so real because it was just, we literally were like and nothing nation until FDR was like, here are my ideas. For the most part, yeah. That was recent. Yeah, we're pretty like not involved in world politics. Politics. Yeah, geopolitics. geopolitics. There's a paradise, man. What's we going to eat on us? Did you hear that he offered to pay mill Gibson or give them a budget of $100 million to do the Odyssey, but historically accurate. And true to Homer. Yeah, I heard that he was like the leading voice against a lot of the things. Which is silly. I mean, it was a great movie. A lot of people, this 100 million, 100 million budget. But Trisha, it owns us 250 million. Yeah, dude crank it up to 500 million. He'll do it. Yeah. Why would you do 100 million? Nothing to you. You're doing. I appreciate him approaching Mel Gibson. Oh, yeah. Oh, he killed it. He didn't approach it. Someone did a thing like Eli, and would you pay Mel Gibson 100 million to recreate this? And he owns like, yeah, I'll do that. Would that, dude, I'm telling you, a Mel Gibson historically accurate version would go so hard. I'm still excited for his next film. Oh, yeah. Next year, right? Next spring. Oh, the past year or whatever. The continuation. Yeah. For the reaction. That one's going to be great. One of the best storytellers out there. Yeah. Amazing. Apocalyptic. Do. Apocalyptic. Patriot. Patriot, frickin hard to watch now. Oh, I'm having a son. Yeah. I watched a couple scenes in it. Fuck me. Papa. Don't leave, Papa. You quoted that for years before I watched that movie and that room. I knew it was coming. Oh, no, she's going to speak. She's going to speak. So good. Oh, you want me to go into the universe 25 or safer for Patriot? No, do it. I want to get it. Okay. This is you got all the good stories today. I dove yesterday, dude. All right. So this is called the universe 25 experiment. All right. This happened in 1968. Behavioral scientist John Calhoun wanted to answer one question. What happens when every survival problem disappears? Like he just wanted to see what that would look like. You know, food, water. I think about this all the time. Everything existed in a biotics. A biotics. Yeah. Okay. That's huge. I mean, people were dying left and right 100 years ago. Jane would have been dead a long time ago. I see it out loud. Oh, my gosh. She's our fragile child. She is fragile. So not in spirit. Continue. built universe 25, basically a mouse's paradise, all right? So we got a bunch of mice, actually not that many mice in the beginning. So he had unlimited food for them, unlimited water, perfect temperatures, no predators, no disease. So I'm sure there was some type of antibiotics or something that was happening. Plenty of room, plenty of space, and he could hold a utopia for mice and he could hold up to 3,000 mice. I feel like I know what you're going to say. So phase one, paradise. He released just eight healthy mice of four breeding partners, pairs, they explored, they claimed territory, they started families. It's beautiful. The population doubled about every 55 days, which is a generation for mice, right? Okay. We're living. We're dreaming. We're having a good time. Phase two. Something weird happens. Tell me. Even though there was a ton of space, mice started congregating in communities and would not reach out, would not leave their space. There was tons of empty space. The mice chose to crowd together in the same area as they all wanted to eat together instead of spreading out, then birth started dropping, their birth rate started slowly dropping. Phase three. These are all like his notes. The society breaks down. Dominant males becoming incredibly violent and aggressive. This is not no reason without changing the environment, nothing unlimited food, unlimited water, perfect temperature, everything is exactly the same. Contrability. Dominant males become violently aggressive. For no reason, weak males give up completely. Mother started banding and even attacking their own babies. In some nests, over 90% of newborns were dying. Some mice even started becoming cannibals. What? Eating each other. Even though they have food. Even though they have unlimited food. Phase four. The beautiful ones is what he's coined these mice, which I don't know why. A strange new group of mice appeared in his notes. Calhoun called them the beautiful ones. They stopped fighting. They stopped mating. They stopped interacting with any other mice. They spent every day eating, sleeping and drinking and obsessively grooming themselves. They were the best looking mice. They looked perfect, but they had literally nothing to do, no purpose whatsoever. They did nothing except for clean themselves. Weird. Well, I'd say they're also dying inside, so that's like the saddest thing in the world. Phase one. The end. The last baby mouse was born on day, 900 into 20. Wow. Population peaked around 2,200 mice well below the enclosure's capacity. There was still endless food and less water, plenty of space, but no one reproduced anymore. One by one, every single mouse died. So they stopped eating, you said, or they they continue eating? They're just dead. They died of old age. They just didn't want to reproduce, some chose not to eat, some like it's just weird. Oh my gosh, this is this is creating a neuropath way in my mind. And Calhoun removed some of the beautiful ones and placed them into a brand new paradise, a brand new setting, fresh territory, second chance, and they still refuse to mate or socialize. Oh my gosh. They simply just lived alone until they died. Dude. Dude. Dude. Calhoun called the the collapse a behavioral sink is what he coined it as. He believed that when social roles and purpose disappear, a society can begin to collapse, even if material needs are fully met. Dude, what's your name? What? What Elon have been talking about on Joe Rogan with AI taking the jobs of everyone to where we don't have to work anymore and we won't have to worry anymore. In fact, we'll just start getting paychecks where we can just do whatever we want, but there's no purpose. Yeah. It removes our purpose. But that's what his challenge was. The two was the hard part will be finding our interests again. Like you just kind of, you got a labor and we're meant to survive, like, you know, but also community. Tell me, tell me like they instantly in like instinctively started eating in groups. Yeah. The communities and they were healthy and happy at first. Like, but it's when they started isolating themselves and they just started dying and like, they lost it. Yeah. The death of social roles though, like not to use the buzzword, but like I think of the whole, like, feminist movement, right? Yeah. I mean, like, I mean, I mean, I don't know the difference between the waves, but no, but you're right. Okay. I'll say, are you disagreeing? Well, the first way of feminism was like, well, like the right to vote and like, if I want to go to do something, I can't do it. Second way of feminism is government propaganda, a lie to us all, which is like basically what the government wanted was to tax dual income households. Yeah. But even, but even like the entire idea of like that, it makes a woman less to do with their job. Yeah. Or to stay at home and like, yeah, or to need a man, like to be honest, like where it's like, you don't need a man. It's like, no, she doesn't need a man, but she should want to be have a partner. Yeah. I am her. She is mine. Like, that's the whole point. But if the goal is survival, it's truth. Like, I do not need my wife to survive as in like, eat and breathe and exist. She doesn't need me, but you know, to build a family to like create this environment of exponential joy. She's completely important to that. And I am completely important to her. Yeah. So they reduced. Right. Right. But it's like, it's like kind of how they play the semantics out. Yeah. It's like, you don't need it. Well, I mean, you won't die tomorrow if you don't have a husband or you don't have a wife, but like you really do need to be in relationship to be in community and to depend on people. Like, it's a healthy thing to need somebody. Yeah. People in, I only like solitary confinement. They don't need other people to survive. Right. Right. Yeah. But it would help. Yeah. I think that this is particularly spooky and timely for this story you've given us, the scientific experiment because of the condition of our nation right now and other developed nations. It's really only happening in developed nations, right, because everywhere else, they still, they still get it. We've lost the plot over here. And it's making me think of our young men are young, socially detached young men who have all of their needs available to them. They don't even need to go find a woman because they got their phones, you know what I'm saying? They, they aren't motivated to get jobs or not motivated to keep up with friends. And it's sad and it's spooky and they're like these little rats. So send them to war. That's why they need to eat a draft, no kidding, but like I agree, like you have to toil with your hands, you know, a lot of the early church fathers to talk about the importance of manual labor. Yeah. I've just like even like overcoming like send and temptations and stuff. They're like, get out there and start shoveling. Yeah. There's one video which we told Jake about that's really good on the Harmony channel. And it's how the early church fathers fought demons. That's the video that it's called. And they go through like they go through like the major sins and one of them is depression and melancholy. And if you are a depressive person, it's like literally go outside and dig a hole. Yeah. When I, when I think of some of my like depression is a sin, it can occur. Yeah. But it's like it's not of God. Depression is not of God. Correct. And the enemy can use that. Yes. Shame, depression, all that like to hold that over you to keep you away from what doing God's will. Some of the like least depressed people have ever known or some of the people who have the least. And I think it's really interesting to like when you look at like consumption, like people who have, it can be phone, right? I have consumed too much in my idle time or it can be substance like diet. Yeah. Like over consumption can lead to depression. And then it's almost like the devil's smart and how he lays out this path to, to, I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but to just this depressed state. No, you're so right. It's apathy. That's the word. Learning a book about, it's the way the pilgrim and it's talking about unceasing prayer. What did God, what did Christ mean when he said unceasing prayer or it was Paul? Yeah. Pray unceasingly. And his prescription in the Orthodox faith prescription of it is pray the Jesus prayer and begin even if you do not have the right heart posture in mindset because it becomes the discipline and then you end up praying unceasingly, right? And it can be whatever that is to you, but it also talked about in those ways, when you are trying to temper your spirit, when you are trying to like get yourself into that headspace, also tempering the body first through fasting and all of those things. And so God gives us the blueprint on how to do it. But in our nation right now, in our culture, it is what you're saying. So over consumption, access to everything. And that's why I deleted TikTok because I don't leave the way I'm thinking these days. I'm like a robot sheeple. I know. I've put down my phone for the past like a couple of days. weeks, it's just been, I'm just literally drawing again. Like just something as simple as like just getting a sketchbook and just drawing on the couch while the girls are playing or reading a book. And it's like, it just helps. Yeah. It's got to figure out your thing and push yourself. If I was in a tired mood the other day, then I had to go Moa Lawn and honestly felt great after Moa Lawn. No, I was grouchy on the way there because it's just I don't want to Moa Lawn ever. And it sounds crazy, but it works. Yeah. It's just being outside sweating. Get it? Like just you don't realize just like is your body everything in your body says, don't stay. Yeah. You're fine. You're comfortable. And it's like you got to fight that. But there was another thing. There was another thing in addition to what you're saying, you went out to go Moa Lawn and it was that physical act of doing it, but you were also being in service to others because you were knowing someone else's lawn for free for them. And that act of service, I just took away your reward in heaven, by the way, by calling you out. But that one gets it. But what I'm saying is serving others, dying to yourself, make yourself uncomfortable. I'm saying this as a complete hypocrite because I'm not doing it enough. But it's a daily thing. It's a daily walk. It's daily bread. Geny yourself today. Don't worry about tomorrow. Don't stress like, oh, I got to do this tomorrow and then we have to just do it today. You already screwed up. Guess what? You still have the rest of the day left. It's so hard to do though. Like it's better to serve others, you know, and like, I think about how much money I blow on it. Like Amazon and the state trucking one of my, yeah. No, I need to be able to bring no around. That's what I want to do. But yeah, not come to be served, but to serve. It's Jesus words. And Matt Chandler's quote, like, pour yourself out. You're not meant to have energy at the end of the day. That freaking hits you. Too much energy. Dads are going to bed. You're going to bed with energy. You're doing it wrong. And I was like, shoot. Like, yeah, speaking of energy to watch Noah and I just do push ups. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. That's a way to begin of energy. We got an episode right after this. I'm Patreon.com/ninges or butterflies. People are on our YouTube membership. Yep. Yes. 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