2026 Fantasy Football Standard Mock Draft: Biggest Non-PPR Values, Touchdown Picks & Draft Strategy (Ep. 2148)

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We do half PPR, we do Super Flex, we do full PPR, but then there's a few of you psychos that are out there saying you sickos that are like where's the standard league mock draft. It's not so standard anymore, but we're still going to tackle it because that's what we're doing. On the Fantasy Pros Draft Wizard, we have got a standard league mock draft where two wide receiver, two running back were even doing kicker and defense, we're doing a little bit of all of it. And joining me today for the episode, we've got the King of Bros, Derek Brown, Tara Roberts and the fantasy dude, all of us in here, two deep row, as I mentioned before, tackle something that's not so standard anymore. It doesn't mean that like, no, maybe like a majority of ESPN leagues are still doing it, tons of people are still doing it, but we do need to retire the standard term for this format. I, I am fatically agree, I think this should just be however we want to phrase this, touchdowns only, touchdown hunting, like whatever, however we want to coin that term, I think that's what you're looking for in standard leagues right now and that's really how it should be framed. Tara, non-PPR is essentially all it is right now because I was going to say, yeah, non-PPR, because like I was saying, off air when we were doing this, we almost have to actively kill the term standard because I think it makes people feel like that's the format if we don't want to get cute with fantasy football, you do, but I think a lot of the sites and stuff have changed to what their default format is, is like a half PPR Tara, but we just got to kill the name, even though we're literally calling it the standard, we're not going to do our job here. It's okay, yeah, non-PPR, touchdown happy, all that good stuff, it's fun, it's different and it's fun to mock draft. And apparently the standard league is very loud and very bright because the fantasy dude rocking with this, I don't think I've mocked draft with anybody with the sunglasses before on an episode, but I appreciate it, what's up, my man? Not much, not much. My group of friends, we actually call it Retro Ball now because it's the only way we used to play. Oh, yes. I like that. It's all football, yeah, yeah, let's try to make it out, yeah. Remember Barry ball, whatever you want. All come y'all's at fantasy, something like that, like, that's what it is. Back when we used to check our stats in the morning paper on Mondays, that exact right, I'm making all of that. Cloud fantasy? Yeah. Yeah, old man y'all's at cloud fantasy. Sure, that's what we got. Cloud fantasy. Whatever your style is, we've got it available on the draft wizard. You can go and do standard half PPR superflex. You could just sink your league. If you guys have got some cool special settings or whatever, and you guys can do exactly what we're doing today, as we are going to be jumping in at phantasypros.com/mock. You can download the fantasy pros app, and then you can create whatever you want, whether you're jumping into the fantasy mock draft lobbies, or you want to create some private ones for yourself where you can mock draft with buddies, or you could just mock draft against the system. Everything is powered by ECR, the expert consensus ranks, and there's a bunch of great stuff in there. You've also got coats that's going to help you out. You want to start tackling and get ready for your draft. Go into the draft simulator, phantasypros.com/mock. Just like we are going to do, and we are going to tackle this mock draft right now. We have also got our wonderful, awesome Discord members, which we posted this into, and this is full of our Discord, so fantasypros.com/chat. If you go and check that out, you could be a part of these mock drafts, and that is what we've got. We've got like DVR. Most of our insane people that are looking to hurt Debros feelings for sure, and then we are also tackling this. I jumped into the two spot for this mock draft. Debro went to the four. I believe the fantasy dude is at nine, and Tara took the wheels. We will get screamed about, Debro, that we did not take five, six, or seven, just warning you. We're going to get yelled at, but we are balancing that out by drafting kickers and defense. So I took the four spot, because the YouTube comments told me that nobody is drafted from the four spot. And I will not mention the two numbers between five and eight on a show right now, so picking that draft spot, I will not do, not in the year 2026, that a man with a man with a child. So in the big two six, Tara, on the 12 spot, anything that you wanted, was that something you wanted to do? Is it your favorite spot? What was the impetus of taking 12 in the standard mock? Yeah. In my defense, the reason that I did not do a mid-round one was because we did that perfect draft one, and I challenged myself with that mid-round. It is miserable, right? So I thought that was a nice reference point, so I'll go to the end here, give myself an end of the turn experience. I like that, especially in standard, it'll be interesting. And the due to bides with the nine pick, and I can appreciate that I actually really like that spot, because it's like early enough to still have something cool happen, and then you have a quick turn, was that your approach there? Kind of, my lead personally, we do a third round reversal, so I like to pick near the end of the draft most of the time. So I like to have the 12-11 spot, but I figured if I move it up a little more, I could still play with that same kind of draft strategy, but a little bit more skewed to the side. All right, perfect. Well, we're going to start this up. By the way, would you like us to go by your government name of the, or would you like to help me with the fantasy? You could actually call me Ryan if you would like to. Okay, I did. I want to kill a government name. You're actually a government name. I don't want to kill my history of mine. Oh, it's okay. People know who I am. Okay. Look, look, look, I even have eyeballs, I even have eyeballs behind the glasses, as a fellow of the, the Welsh, I can appreciate it. So I just want to make sure. Yeah, exactly. When he's tied to you, you have to mention his middle name, though. That's the only rules. 100%. All right. Mark Drap is underway here. Again, two running back, two wide receiver, quarterback. We do have a flex. Jumeer Gibbs goes on the number one spot. I am up here, and I am going to also tackle the running back. I took the two spot here just, I mean, also as a host, it's a little bit easy to jump in here. But I wanted to tackle one of these early running backs. And I don't think I've actually drafted high end drafts so I could see what the back into the second round looks like. So nothing different from full PPR, half PPR or standard here with Jumeer Gibbs and Bichon going. The third pick is Jamar Chase. D-bro, you're up at four. Also I kind of be curious, what do you think is going to deviate? You took Pokemon Akua. So again, nothing has really changed for anybody versus any of these. Formats. Real quick on Puka, obviously, no concerns on any potential suspension or injury. And was there any hesitation of something maybe you wanted to do different being this a standard league? No, I mean, right now, again, touchdown hunting and stuff. So I mean, I still think the right approach here is between it. If you're sitting at the four spot, whoever falls to you, whether that's one of Bichon Gibbs, Chase or Puka, I went with Puka over somebody like a JSN or Amanra. You can make the case. Like, I think it's equally possible this year, the touchdowns flip between Adams and Puka. And if that happens this year, then again, he's wonderful and standard. And unfortunately, I'll ask for a Puka, stop acting like a freaking pigeon, man, just open the glass doors. It's fine. You don't have to run into them. Yeah. Someone get him a pacifier so he doesn't bite anybody, have a glass door, like just chill out. James Cook. I'm Jaygba, Amanra St. Brown, that is the 5, 6, 7 Ryan. You are up in one pick. We've got a pick before. We have not seen Jonathan Taylor go, Christian McCaffrey. So I mean, maybe there's really nothing deviating here, but what are you looking at doing? So I know Taylor goes, I would have probably taken Taylor there, had you fallen. I'm not big on Christian McCaffrey this year, based off of what's happening already, based off of the usage he had last season, what we've seen happened to him after that amount of usage has happened to him in the past. He's already dealing with injuries, we're trying to figure out what that is. We don't know what timeline they're saying, you know, it's not, but last time they did that, we don't know what happened. And he missed half a season. So I'm still going to take him here, just based off of the value that has fallen to me at nine. But I normally, it's just because it's a mock, normally I would not do that in a regular league. But if the mock draft, I like to try things out. I want to see how my team is going to look in the end. That's what you're doing when you do a mock. You're not trying to win the draft, you're trying to just have fun and see what your team is going to look like. Yeah. I like the buildup of like, here's the negative, negative, negative. I'm going to take him, but anyway, that's my boy, I'm down with that. I mean, especially for touch on equity, he's such an advantage in PPR, but that doesn't really matter because he's still a high-tuck touch on equity. Now, Tara, you did the thing that I really wanted to focus on. Lamb goes 10, Jefferson goes 11, you went back to back, running back. And I think the biggest advantage early on in standard is a guy like Derek Henry, who you did take it 12, you backed him up with, say, Quam Barkley. So those are two monster picks here. And I wondered if Derek Henry was going to move into the first round and you made that happen. Yeah. It was interesting. I was worried that we were going to see one of those guys go and then I was going to have to make the decision because, you know, in full PPR, I am taking a guy like Ash and Gentee before both of those guys for the massive receiving upside that he has, but we're talking about standard high-tucked downs. Derek Henry, obviously massive advantage there to get to 15. And when it comes to sake one, I think if we're getting the bounce back of we're getting new Sean. our new offensive coordinator, Sean Manion, the leaning aggressively on the ground game, as they try to figure out who's going to step up opposite of Devonte Smith, if that's going to be a reliable option, they need to lean on Sequant Barclay, I really like that start. Then when AJ Brown, Gen T and then Ryan, you came back with Drake London, really, really solid pick on the wide receiver. Any sniping happened before? Was that what you were locked into for the second round? Elf Alken's hat, yeah. He's my boy. You got anything for us on the Drake London pick? I'm just a big fan of London in general. We saw what he could do last year before the injury. He was dominating and that was with, in my opinion, poor quarterback play. I don't think he's going to have any better quarterback play, but besides the beijon and pits on the team, who else are they throwing the ball to? I mean, they're going to be playing from behind quite often. They're going to be having to air that ball out. I love the talent there. And I'm not opposed to taking him that early in a second at all. I would have taken him on the turn. Had he still been there if I was if I was Tara. So Nico Chase Brown, Pickens, Divi Archa, Ken Walker, and Debro, you took Omarian Hampton. So Omarian Hampton at two nine. Let's hear it. I was in between the top of my queue was Kenneth Walker and Maureen Hampton. I mean, both those guys, I think we're looking at similar touchdown equity. I think in a standard, is there a little like I have no qualms or questions about Kenneth Walker being the definitive red zone guy for the Kansas City Chiefs. I have more questions about Omarian Hampton. But again, if he is the red zone guy for this offense, he could score 12 plus touchdowns this year. And it's fantastic. So the fact that I was able to get one of those two guys over somebody like Devon H and where I have questions about the scoring potential of the offense, very happy. One of those guys fell to me. Followed that up with Devon H and went right after you. And I took Chris O'Lavae who I was locked into. I mean, who are the hell else is going to be scoring touchdowns there at this point in Debro's offense. So I loved O'Lavae. Bowers was interesting. Bowers went to 12 and 301. I'm up and I am battling a couple different plays here. And I don't know if I want to go super unpopular. I love this one in a standard league. I'm going to go with Kyron Williams. And I think that's like something to talk about. Yeah, well, what are the adjustments in standard versus what everybody might be used to in a PPR. Again, go back to the Derek Henry Pick. You're talking touchdown equity. Yes, there's some stuff around Kyron Williams and sharing and Blake Korn, but it is like one of the top in most powerful offenses. We've talked about it. You know, if you're looking at, you know, whatever it is, like sharp football and you're looking at the top projected team totals, the Rams are at the tippy top. So why would I not want to take a high end running back for a high end offense? Because I need touchdowns. That's all we are, we are battling touchdowns and big yards. And that was my touchdown play. I actually love the play that went right after and Trey McBride. I kind of gave some consideration to him. Debrale, you went with Javante Williams. You also went running back here. So hit us with Javante Williams. What do you think is starting to change, by the way, versus like what we do in PPR and half PPR for standard, as we move through these rounds? Do you do feel any formmatic type of changes to what you normally are doing? Yeah, I mean, pulling Javante up the board. I think a lot of places he's still like a fourth round pick. I think people would be surprised that I took him over Josh Jacobs. But I'm worried about the suspension with him. Breeze Hall has got the growing issue. Jeremiah Love and a car Cardinals offense that what how many touchdowns are they scoring this year? Heck no. So looking at Javante, it was really kind of between Travis E. Chan and Javante as far as touchdown equity offenses that I want to invest in. Javante was was fifth in red zone touches last year. So the touchdown equity is definitely there. Plus, I look at this whole tier of wide receivers. I think it's really flat when you look at standard leagues right now. Like you can make a case for a ton of guys that are going to score between six and maybe upwards of like eight to 10 touchdowns. So like, if I think the wide receiver tier is flat, there's only two running backs that I like. Then I think can really probably score 10 plus touchdowns that are kind of left on the board versus a lot of other options. Yeah, I took the running back here. That was a guy that I was considering as well. Zayf Flowers win three five Breeze Hall Malik neighbors. Josh Allen, our first quarterback in here. And then Ryan, you actually did something I gave heavy consideration to. Again, this is the standard thing. You took her shoe rice. And if you're talking touchdown equity, I'm not the biggest machine rice guy. But for obvious red zone coverage, that's why I liked rice. So talk about your three nine pick. That was basically the reason I went with it. I was considering Allen if he had dropped to me. I'm not a big quarterback early person. But being that it's a standardly, you're trying to find an advantage in certain areas. And I kind of view it. My, my build is a hero RB build at the moment. And when he got sniped the pick before me, I looked at rice and considered the amount of touchdowns that he could potentially have as the red zone target for the Kansas City Chiefs. And hold the trigger. Yeah, don't hate it. Josh Jacobs win three, 10, Colson Lovelin, three, 11. So we did get a couple of those tight ends here. And then Tara, you did a wide receiver wide receiver, three, four split here with mecca Buka and T Higgins. So I love the, I love the mecca side. Maybe a mecca like is a slight, like little baby downgrade in like a standard just touchdown league knowing, you know, what they've got in the rushing game and Chris Godwin and stuff. But love T Higgins, there. So talk to us about your two picks. Yeah, actually, I actually think that mecca, when I bump up a mecca next to Chris Godwin, considering that Godwin's going to be out of the slot, I actually think that we're going to see Godwin in the production that we kind of saw around that 2023, 2022 timeframe where the touchdowns weren't where they were early in his career. It was more of like a max of five. So I actually like it to be more potential receptions tilting over to Godwin, but more yardage and touchdowns with a mecca. So in a standard, I give him that slight edge over Godwin. T Higgins, I debated on this one, not going to lie. If Kostin Loveland didn't go there right before I was I in him down, I was like, Oh, yeah, I'm taking Loveland right here would be a great red zone target. So then it had me debating whether T Higgins or Tyler Warren, you know, touchdowns, I've kind of worried that maybe we get a little, I'm not worried about Keenan Allen, but you never know how things might shift and they have Jonathan Taylor, the aggressive use on the ground. So decided to just go ahead and lock in that second wide receiver there. We had Lad McConkey, Lamar Jackson, a couple of quarterbacks have gone in this round. And then Ryan, you took what is going to be seen as, you know, whatever it's controversial or it's polarizing, at least at this point, Jeremiah Love. So you jumped in with Jeremiah Love at the was at the four four spot. And it's interesting in this format too because you're not going to get a ton of that receiving equity and you're talking about maybe volume going out. So what was the, what was the power behind taking him in the fourth round? I was, I was debating between him and Travis HN and I really wanted to go with the New Orleans. And I'm going to be honest with you when it comes to like a breakdown of why I made that pick, it was because we're in a mock draft and I wanted to try things out. I'm just being 100% honest. I haven't taken Jordan Love in any of my mock drafts this offseason. And I'm going to be honest with you when I took it, it didn't feel great because I don't think I'm going to be taking him in any of my leagues. The offense is going to be playing from behind most of the time. If this is the standard league that I'm playing in, you're not getting that receiving work. You're not getting all that extra stuff that you're, you're accustomed to with what we play when it comes to the PPR standard. But with this pick here, it was just more along the lines of we're trying mocks. I'm trying things out. And I wanted to see what the team would look like. I'm going to be honest. I'm not happy with it. But we're trying things out. I like that. That's usually mine. That's how I encourage. Tertoro McMillan for five Jalen Waddle Drake May, who I gave some consideration to. And then DeBro, you jumped in with Christian Watson. So Drake made Devonte Adams, by the way, the one right before you. I was heavily considering Devonte Adams if he had fallen to me. So did you get a little bit snipe there pivoting to Christian Watson or you locked into Watson? I was, I was willing to, because that would have, I would have Puka and Adams there. But I feel like if that's the case, then I was fine taking Adams. If you fell to me, because I'm legit locking up most of the touchdowns, definitely with probably like all of the touchdowns are at least a large part of it through the air for what we consider to be one of the best offenses in the NFL with having Puka and Adams. But Watson, man, I mean, 10 games play last year, six receiving touchdowns. He's going to be the clear white receiver one for Green Bay. And certain, one thing I do want to zoom out and just kind of discuss real quickly is that when you're looking in your touchdown hunting and standard for these players, it's not just the red zone usage. I like to look at the quarterback positions like consistently year after year after year, who are these outlier guys and passing touchdown rates that were like, okay, that's going to regress. It's going to regress. And then it doesn't Jordan love comes to mind. He's consistently above that. I think that happens again this year. Another guy is also on this list. But I'm not going to tease this too far because I'm curious if the guy comes back to me here in a second. Okay. I got a couple, there's a couple sneaky ones in here. It's a couple sneaky sneaky. Deandre Swift went, I decided I kind of had this in my brain that with a standard format, I tend to lean more running backs just for touchdown equity. And Travis HN is where I decided I wanted to go. I do have two saints in here, not necessarily what I'm wanting. Debrose got to love this. The new powerhouse offense of the saints for this division. But, you know, Camara being down, I think it helps this a little bit. I mean, both really my Olovi and HN picks are like the pieces around them falling apart. Like with, I remember I've done shows with you, Tara, where you've had a lot of questions about you were kind of wanting to avoid HN and everything. But it's just like there's nobody else around. So I just wanted to have a little bit more of a hyper focus on RB. So I put an RB in my flex. There were a couple guys I was looking at, that Jutkins is really interesting. I do like Bucky, but I just felt I wanted to lock that up, but also because I like where we're at with wide receiver and I think there's some values and I might start doing some tricky stuff here coming soon. We'll see as we move into the fifth round before we do though, we talked about Colson Lovelin a little bit ago, I think in the third round, you can make him your first round pick because this is your chance to win a Colson Lovelin. Sign Bears Jersey, you can put that up in your office, put it wherever you want you can wear it. If you need be, I don't care. But all you got to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel. So subscribe, drop a comment below on, since you're here this video, but any video will do. And then that's it, and you're entered in. We'll be announcing a winner right here on the channel. Make sure to turn on notifications. So you get the new videos and you can actually claim your prize. Colson Lovelin autograph jersey can be yours and I would love for it to be yours. So we are going into the fifth round after my HN Pick, it went to him a client for 12. David Montgomery was the wheel at five ones. You can see some of the running backs are going, but I will point out, David Montgomery just went ahead of Jutkins, Scadiboo, Irving. That's kind of fun as he should. And I can, I can take his obstinate wide receiver. And I really want to take my govins here in the fifth round. And I want to take him over. There's a couple good wide receivers, interestingly enough in the standard format. Draftways are just pushing James and Williams. Garrett Wilson also seems to be falling, but I hate that Jutts offense. I'm going to do it. I'm going to see what happens. Screw it. I'm pulling my govins. I want to touch down. We got there. I want to tease. I figured you were going to do it. Touch down upside because I was going to make the case. Brock party consistently. Every freaking year is over a 7% passing touchdown rate. Well, yeah, you did a good job though. You did what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to play coy and you're supposed to not say anything. And you did a very good job. But you're 49ers home or dumb. And the fact that Evans is a smash pick, definitely crushed me here. It's a smash pick. Again, this is one of those format changes. I don't want to be annoying about it for everybody. But I do want to continuously hyper focus on that. There are some differences. Sometimes I feel like half PPR and PPR tend to kind of flow more the same. And then when you jump into standard, things are going to start to alter and go nuts because you're going touch an equity, though it is funny. Luther Burden went five three. DJ Moore at five four, Debro was the other guy that I was looking at. I was battling those two players because DJ Moore is look fantastic, going to be a big point of the offense. So I do like this is like a consolation prize. Yeah, those are the two pack of guys that I was looking at. I mean, again, I would love to have Evans. I think he could be this year's Devonte Adams in lead. If he could stay healthy, lead the NFL and receiving touchdowns. But I think DJ Moore is going to be Stefan Diggs for the Buffalo Bills. I think they told us that loudly in a week, one of the preseason. And so again, you're investing in a top six scoring offense. Yes, please. Cam Skataboo, Basel Tutten went five five five six. Another thing you can do is we're closing in here. Ryan, you're about to be up. But if you guys have questions kind of throughout the draft, make sure not only are you going to get suggestions from coach, but you can ask coach live in drafts of, you know, what are some advantages? Who are some players for standard? Even though it's going to kind of give you some of those suggestions, coach is going to be there in the draft wizard while you're drafting. So you can ask questions and or it is going to give you suggestions based on what's happening. So just a little fun aside, we have aptitude. And when Jayden Daniels, another quarterback, Quinchon, Jutkins, as I mentioned, and Ryan, you went with Jardarian price. So you're going with the young dudes. You've got a backfield of Jeremiah Love and Jardarian price. Yes, I do. I was just again, we're going with the standard. We're looking for touchdown upside. I see Seattle moving the ball quite effectively this year, just like they did last year. I see a lot of, you know, end zone runs for him. I don't dislike the draft in the or the draft capital of a fifth round pick and near the end of the fifth round, I'm all for it. If he's there for me, standard or PPR, I'm jumping all over it. I like it. Garrett Wilson really fell the 510 in this format, Bucky Irving, and then Tara, you just did a double tap of Tyler Warren. And then James and William. James and William has kind of been floating up as one of the top top holes from fantasy pros on the draft wizard. So talk about those two picks. Yeah, I feel like the gap. We had a nice little gap there after Colston Lovelin. I think that makes a lot of sense when it comes to a standard league because a lot of these guys after them shift into more questionable offenses, questionable touchdowns. So there should be a gap. There's only so much of a gap that I can leave. So I was like, OK, it's been enough mix. Let me go ahead and grab Tyler Warren, shore that up. And yeah, James and William's like, this is funny. This has been a controversial one because I've done 10,000 shows with Pat this off season. And he loves James and William's. And the comments are always like about last season. It wasn't great until the end. And I want people to let go of what happened last season because it's a transition, right? We've got a change in offensive coordinator. We saw the offensive play calling shift in the middle of the season that helped out James and as well. And then we've also got a different setup here in terms of David Montgomery's gone. We've got the elevation of Jameer Gibbs. And we've also got this beautiful schedule. It's a wonderful schedule for the Detroit Lions. Very easy, a top three strength of schedule for Jared Goff. Lots of domes in the back half of the season. So there are going to be a lot of high upside games, especially in the critical moments in the back half of the season if you're making playoff pushes. So Jameson is a fine flex option. We have like a murderous row of picks in here that I liked. Parker Washington went six, two. Roman Jones, he had six, three. Ryan, you took Joe Burrow at six, four. We had Traveon, Brooks, Pollard, and then Tucker Kraft up to Deebro. But Joe Burrow, Ryan, I was with you. There's another kind of thing. I put maybe like a tiny bit more of a focus on quarterback and stand to leagues. I would have loved to have gotten Drake May if there was a value. I'm in this space. I've got to be careful where I'm like, ooh, I think I want this quarterback. But then I'm letting things slide. 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But I was, I was considering him for the last couple picks and the fact that he was still there in the six were playing standard. We went, we need that touchdown upside. He's a consistent top five quarterback when healthy. I just didn't see a disadvantage to taking him there. Yeah. I like that one a lot. After bro, bro, it went Henderson Brooks, Pollard, Kraft, and then deep row. You went with Remander Stephenson. Erickson will be very proud of you in this, because he is still the theoretical one. But I don't know if we have seen in many drafts we've done Henderson and Remander go in the same round. So I thought that was really interesting. It is interesting. And I think, I think Ramondrey should go ahead of Henderson 10 times out of 10. Like this theoretical upside for Travion Henderson. I don't disagree with it necessarily, but it's all theoretical. Like Ramondrey has been the guy. I think he remains the guy he was for all this explosive talk about like, Oh, his big runs and stuff. Does everybody realize Ramondrey Stephenson had a higher explosive run rate than Travion Henderson last year? So like people frame Ramondrey as being this slow plotting back and stuff. And that's just definitively not the case. And I think he's going to remain the goal line option for what we, again, what we project because another part of like, in standard leagues, investing good offenses that you think would score a crap ton of touchdowns. Do you think the Patriots are going to do that? Yeah. 100%. After your Stevenson picket when Jalen Warren, I was so inspired by Ryan. I'm going to take the, I'm going to take the value of Jalen Hertz falling. I like Hertz kind of in general a little bit more than your board, but the rushing upside in a standard league as well. And if they're going to let it fly a tiny bit more, either way, Jalen Hertz has obviously got like QB1 upside and we need to play touchdowns. And if he's not doing it in the air, at least we know he's going to do it on the ground. So he was the end of a tier at quarterback, which is really happy about the wheel from 6, 12 to 7, 1 went carnal, tape and Dobbins. I was looking at tape. So I decided to pivot to get my backup wide receiver, my third wide receiver. It took Marvin Harrison, who I'm not super crazy big on. But the one thing I do think you could see more of is I would not be surprised if you see more receiving arts and receptions from Michael Wilson. But I wouldn't be surprised if you, if you see more touchdowns from Marvin Harrison. Kind of similar to those early drives, a cardinals have had where it was like Wilson, Wilson and then the red zone, all of a sudden I became Marvin Harrison. So maybe there's some touch on equity there. Wide receivers also like thinning out a bit. So I wanted to make sure to get one of those guys. So that was seven to we had Quinten, uh, Quinten, Johnston. And then DeBro, you went with another running back here in Rico Dattle. Yeah. I mean, and again, highlighting this particular mock, it is only start two wide receivers. So I feel really good about my wide receiver room when I have Puka, Christian Watson, DJ more already. So I was just going to take like what I look at as being one of the last of a tier of running backs, where I get all this buzz at a camp right now for the Steelers is that Dowdell is going to be the RB one. And I think if you're looking at who is going to be the goal line back in that offense, I kind of put the the chances higher for Dowdell than Jalen Warren. But maybe that's not consensus. But again, if he is that guy, I look at him as probably the end of a tier for running backs. Uh, we're having them, by the way, speaking of running backs, like I know running backs usually go, but like it seems like it is really bad out in the standards format. Like it is really gross, uh, you, so it's smart. You took Rico. Uh, I have three and I probably should have maybe even considered another one there because it is really thin. Justin Herbert, Blake Korum, Corey Croskey, Merit went seven, uh, seven, Chuba Hubbard, seven, eight. And then Ryan, you went with the tight end. Sam Laporta was just kind of staring at all of us. Uh, this, this late in the draft, Sam Laporta is a mad value at seven nine. I'm not, I'm, yeah, that was the main reason of that pick if I'm going to be honest. Like it's just, he's there waiting for you to take tight end in a great offense as well. Jordan Mason. I was like, oh, maybe Jordan Mason will come back to me. Nope. Uh, he went seven, 10. We had RJ Harvey. And then Tara, you just did your double tap of Trevor Lawrence and Kalmanon guys. So was the manon guy pick a little bit based around not only like you're going to like, but also what the hell is going on with Arby's right now. Like you had to get some more depth. Yeah. I'm so irritated. I had Jacori Croskey, Mirat Tita, if I had Jordan Mason, Tita, but I'm like, oh, fantastic. So, uh, because I have Derek Henry and Sequon and my flex is filled there with Jamison. I can wait for Kyle Manungai to get healthy. There were a ton of rushing touchdowns and that bears offense last year. So this is not a bad bench option for an RB three because you don't have to utilize him. You know, one half thing, once everything works out and he's back, um, and good to go. And you know, for all we know, Deandre Swift, whenever he could potentially suffer an injury, the upside from an unguy would be literally top five. So yeah, in a standard league, I'm cool with going this direction. But yes, it was painful. That run. Yeah. Didn't make me happy. Yeah. And you took, I mean, when above Aaron Jones, who went eight two, Brian Thomas going eight three and then Ryan Alec Pierce, which I really like is because it's going to be a bench wide receiver. Yeah. Alec, would he, he had big play last year's, this is a solid spot. The keen and Alan signing does concern me a bit when it comes to his injury. It just without the team saying anything that just tells me that they're, they're not telling us everything about it. But at the same time, what we saw last year from him was just so promising. And the fact that they gave him the contract extension as well, just let's me know that they want to make him an absolute piece of this offense and to get him that late, I'm cool with it. Uh, DK met calf going eight five. So again, there was like, there's a big slew wide receivers of values that have just been floating out there. Michael Wilson going eight six. It makes me sick that he's down there. I like that pick. Kenny Gainwell, Divi R is up at deep. Oh, you're squirming. Who do you want? Who do you want here? I took it. I knew he was going to take him. That's what it's so bad, dude. I wanted Sutton because I feel like he's been disrespected at this point in draft. So I'm going to take an upside shot again, investing in a high flying offense that I think scores a crap ton of touchdowns. At this point, the risk is fine. I'm going to go George Kiddell. That was my backup. It's a great pick right there. I approve. That is a dude approved pick. I got some more cycle Sutton, so, you know, it is, man. Look, if it'll comes back and that injury isn't hindering him, he's going to be a touchdown monster with Mike Evans. I office and fatically agree. And I think there's so many good spots of Titans that if he doesn't just say George Kiddell starts off as a part time player for the first three to four weeks of the season, there's a lot of good later tight end options that I think can kind of float the boat until Kiddell is back to. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Like that. Pick the bro was as you went. Oh, that was me. I wanted George Kiddell, you know, turn about his fair place. Sorry. You can't draft all the 49ers. I wanted Evans. You know, I have it. There's that. Oh, I have my camera. You got my cameras. That you snipe deep row on. Yeah. Right. I mean, I guess I've got some old funny that he on the wide receiver side, but Chris Godwin at 8/11 felt pretty nice there for touch on it when he were shot white and Stefan Diggs on the turn. I actually like that. Oh, that's a good pick. Yes. Stefan Diggs has continuously been sneaky just because wherever you are, his ADP or wherever he sits in a draft room has just not caught up. So like a high suggestion for Stefan Diggs, as you guys are going into your drafts in the next couple of weekends, if he is of any target to you, go and find him and queue him up early, early, assuming hopefully you do that. But like, Debra, I feel like every draft we've done, we're like, dang, how did stuff like, we just forget because he's just floating down. He's below the Jacobi Myers and Matthew Goldins, which he really shouldn't be, right? No, he shouldn't be. I mean, like Stefan Diggs, and I've said this since he was signed with the commanders, he should be considered a top 36 white receiver. So look at that in your overall rankings. And in that like 30 to 36 range, where they're going, just kind of slowly put Stefan Diggs. And there's another player we will get to here in a little bit. I think that's in a similar range to him. Okay. Well, last time you did this, when we stopped there for a second, last time you did this, you screwed yourself. Now, I'm going to have to look. Who's that guy that you're looking at? I do have two Ben White receivers. So I probably got a float a little bit away from that. So we're going into the ninth round. Stefan Diggs was the nine one. We're going to be tackling the back half. The quick question I want to ask everybody, I want to do a heat check. And are we going to see our first kicker, Tara? Let me start with you. Kicker or defense goes, which one goes first? And then what round do we think we're going to see? My preference is defense first. I think that I know a lot of people want those high and kickers early. So maybe 13th, I feel like in mock drafts, we don't see things go to side with, do you guys think it'll go sooner? I think someone's going to do it. I think the 11th round of kicker or defense is going to go at all. I was going to say, I'll pick defense, I think defense as well. So you're going to go 11th round. I'm going to say 12th round now, what, which defense? I bet you it's going to be the Rams of the, it's the Rams of the Texans. Texans are the top live, Ryan. What do you think? I was going to say, I was going to say 11th with the Texans. Okay. So that's our just a little guess here. It won't be for many of us. I'll tell you that, but that might be floating out there because we are drafting them kickers and defense, jumping back into it here in a second. But we want to remind you guys, fantasy fest is coming. Yes, the once a year, big event we do here on fantasy pros where we've got the industry grates and we are a lot and we're kidnapping them and we're forcing them on live streams for hours and hours and hours. And that is what we're going to be doing. And I believe, I remember correctly, I think me and Debra were going to be like buddy partners. We're going to play buddy cop on the live stream for the first couple hours because I'm I'm going to be starting the hosting where we'll take over a couple hours in, but I think me and and Debra were paired up. And we want you guys to hang out with us. It is Wednesday, August 26th. It is at 3 PM Eastern. You can get all the strategy talk rankings. We're talking tier sleeper bus league winners. We're going to do mock drafts. We've got giveaways and more. And there's going to be an after party after the four hours where we're live on YouTube. You can go over to twitch twitch.tv/fantasypros and you can check it all out. We got Nathan Yankee, we got JJ Zacharyson. I mean, we got like, we got great crew. You guys are going to love it. Come and check out, go and hit the notification. So you don't miss any of it. I know Tara's going to be there. So hang with us. August 26th, 3 PM Eastern is the start. That's where you get me and Debro coming hang out. And then if you miss it live, don't worry. If you don't want to watch a four hour live stream, we will have some clipped out pieces for you guys. But hopefully you come and hang out with us. All right, going into the ninth round, I am up picking this back up here. So far on my team, I've got no tight end. I've got my flex at running back. And I've got two backup wide receivers. Running backs are scary and bad. This is a player that I have not hyper focused on that I'm going to take. But I am going to take him in this spot here because we are talking touchdown equity. And I'm going to go with Chris Rodriguez. And I know Michelle Tutton has been the dude. But Chris Rodriguez is here is here to do one thing. And they just score touchdowns. You know, it'd be like the thing. I'm here to do two things. Two gum and score touchdowns. And I'm all out of gum. Like that is what Chris Rodriguez is going to be here to do. Is goal line stuff. So I'm going to go with him. I want a little bit more coverage on the backup side of my running backs. I don't feel good about it though. There's a couple of other of those guys. But running backs are thin and scary here. But I've got some wide receiver depth. So that is my pick here at nine two deep row. The top need I see here is you do not have a quarterback as Caleb Williams just went. Is that going to be your ranger? Are you going to go with your super sneaky guy? I'm going with a sneaky guy. I'm going with a guy in standard leagues that was tight in five last year. And again, backing up my George Kiddled pick scored 11 receiving touchdowns. I don't know if that happens this year, but he's going to be heavily involved in the red zone Dallas Goddard. Come on down, baby. Let's go. Oh, wow. You went back. You sneaky. Sucker. Yeah. I actually love that. And that would have been a nice little pair for Dallas. Goddard here. But you did just take Dallas. Got it over. Herald Fanon and Kyle Pits as Fanon just. And after that. Better offense is nine five. Ryan, you're up in a couple picks here. Luckily, you filled out a bunch of your overall starters. It's just to defense, kicker, bench need. Where are you hoping to go with this ninth pick? I'm looking at the running backs. It's getting pretty thin. We're looking at like handcuffs by this point. And then I'm looking at the wide receivers. And there's a couple number one targets. I'm still seeing out there. But some of them are attached to questionable situations. We got Jordan Tyson with his injury. And you know, would they say two months? You could be out potentially with that. And we all know how hamstrings love to linger. So I don't really know how I want to take him there. Then we got Michael Pittman Jr. sitting there. And I'm not sure what to expect with him in Aaron Rodgers yet. I do feel like he's going to be the target over a guy like DK Metcalf. That's kind of that's kind of the way I'm looking at right now as Michael Pittman Jr. I've kind of been a Michael Pittman Jr. Truth or since he came into the league. I don't feel like he's ever really gotten a fair shake yet. And not to say the Aaron Rodgers is a big jump up for a quarterback for him. But with competent quarterback play, I think he could have a potentially low key good season here. Herald Fanon went after Goddard, Mike Kyl Limon, Kyle Pitt. So apparently this is the tight end round. I do not have a tight end. So that's bad news for me. You took Michael Pittman as mentioned. And Terry, you're coming up here as Wando Robbins and just one. So you're one pick away. I don't want to take away from any of the process here, but do you know where you are or what you're looking for with these upcoming picks? The decision. Yeah. Well, the first one is going to be fairly easy going with Tyler Algier, because again, we've got the injury to Jeremiah Love. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, ankle sprains ambiguous, you know, could linger throughout the season. So maybe that turns into something that is valuable. And then the second pick, this is, this is, it's torn for me because, yeah, it doesn't look pretty. I know exactly what I want to do, but I'm torn on which one that I'm going to do it with. Go ahead and go with, I know the other guy is not going to make it back to me. So it hurts my feeling that I'm going with Casey Concepcion. I'm so torn. I had multiple receivers that I wanted there, but yeah, I think he's going to end up being the first look for the Browns. I know people think Browns offense, but again, we're talking 10th Brown. This is a good discount for a guy who could be the first look on the offense. And I love how they use him in the, you know, little spurt that we had in preseason very creatively, little rushing upside there can get touchdowns in a wide variety of ways. So yeah, Casey Concepcion. I like that one too, because it's sneaky, just because they're going to use him in different ways as well. He's not just going to be a receiver. They're going to do end-around stuff. They're going to probably try to play a lot of screen stuff with him. So there's just more touchdown opportunity, and that's what we've got to play here. So I think it's a really sneaky pick. Woody Marx goes 10, 2, Zach Charbonne and Ryan, Dejon Stribbling in the 10th round in a straight up standard league. He's breaking records, target and reception, equity of what he's getting in the preseason looks incredible. We are seeing it without McCaffrey and Kittle and Evans, but he's clearly a target. And you just, I just want to point out, you took him over, guys like Josh Downs, Jordan Tyson is still sitting out there, Matthew Golden, Romeo Dobbs. We know he's jumped up. I talked to us about Dejon Stribbling. I'm actually, I'm not going to say I'm a big truth or a Stribbling, but I'm definitely going to grab him later in your drafts in your PPR leagues. Don't grab him in the 10th round like I just did here, but I did this again. We're doing, uh, there goes Debowl. I was debating between him and Debowl and he comes to the touchdown upside. Debowl was a guy I was thinking and considering it, Asi, I knew you were talking, yeah. That dude, that's exactly who I was alluding to earlier. He was getting that. And that's why I've kind of had Debowl sitting off to decide, but again, we're doing a mock draft and I probably would have gotten Debowl there, but I want to try things out. I want to see what my team's going to look like at the end and I want to, I just, I love trying that stuff. Uh, Dejon Stribbling is somebody I'm, I'm pretty big on when it comes to like later round guys to go and grab and have on your bench later because I think there's potential there, uh, partway halfway through the season where he's really going to start getting, coming into his own like you see with a lot of these rookies. The first half goes a little slow. That second half really bumps up 49ers round. We had Jacobi Myers, uh, Jonah Coleman, which I freaking love that pic. Debowl has mentioned Bigsby and Debowl. You went with Brock Perty. Yep. I've talked about it. I mean, outlier passing touchdown rates. I don't see how that changes this year. I was in between him and Jackson Dart felt like it was a good spot. If, if Debowl didn't fall to me, I was going to pull the trigger on one of these quarterbacks. Um, and, and I feel good. I mean, like the team is balanced so far. Like I've got two tight ends. I've got a, a bunch of running backs. I do have only three wide receivers on this team, but I feel like we've gotten to the point of the draft where like the wide receiver tier is very flat. Um, you're really just taking upside shots on guys or veterans that are too cheap and draft. So whoever comes back to me kind of like out of this tier, I'm fine with. I decide after Matthew Golden when I went with Travis Kelsey, as my starting tied in at 10 11, it did want a Dalton concade. I'll pass on that high end offense. Really torn here. And this guy is taking a huge slam for a multitude of reasons. But I'm going to take Josh downs, Josh downs falling down here. I mean, I know like PPR is the place and, and Kenan Allen, you know, is going to take some equity away. But I just, I, I think overall we're riding off Josh downs a little too soon. But I do worry about what his touch on equity looks like when you got a guy like Kenan Allen running out in the red zone, Tyler Warren's going to dominate that in Jonathan Taylor. So that he just is not as sexy in this format. But I just feel like from as far as like a bench wide receiver, I got him as like my fifth or six wide receiver, there's some pretty good value there. In between my two picks, we had Boston Goad and so Boston and Jackson Dart at 11 once. There's some, you know, there's some quarterback value Tyrone Tracy goes 11, three. And then deeper, that was a guy I was really battling because I think there might be better touch on equity. And maybe it would have just been a better overall choice. Romeo Dobbs, you went with again. I think I'm investing in what could be a top five top three scoring offense this year. People talk about targets spread around for New England. That's what happens when you don't have a clear number one and number two wide receiver in the offense. AJ Brown, Romeo Dobbs are going to be that this year. So I think he's going to score more touchdowns than people giving credit for because the offense is going to be really freaking good. And again, just in standard, you're not only touchdown hunting, just invest in good offenses. Rashid Shaheed goes next, by the way, we are in the 11th round. So we are officially on to like kicker defense watch for everybody. So we'll see if it ends up happening. There goes Ryan is up here in a second. We're at a spot as well. I mean, at least for me, I've got defense kicker and then we've got two bench spots. We've only got a couple more rounds and then we're going to take a look at the draft grades here. There it is. Oh, it is. Aubrey. Aubrey was the first pick. I thought it would be defense. So kicker goes. I thought it was a kicker. Yeah. So I think kicker was right. And then Debra, I think you said 11th round. So I think. Yep. I was just looking for 11th round. One of them to go. All right. Good job. Xavier. Good on that draft. We're at 11 7. That's the official pick. Xavier worthy. And then Ryan Tajay Spears for your ninth pick in the 11th round. Yeah. I mean, when we're getting this deep in the draft, that's just more of a depth pick for me at this point. I'm trying to fill in my bench. And I only had three wide or three running backs at the time. I don't really believe too much in Tony Pollard this season. Tajay Spears has shown us that when given the ball, he can do the job. So I mean, this late in the draft, I'm really not upset about it. I'm not sure if I can get it where we are. Isaiah likely Keaton Mitchell just went and then I just know I was like man. Jalen coakers are really good value that's kind of floating out there. I mean touch on equities a little scary. That's where Tara just went with the 1112. And then I'll let Tara make her pick on the 121 as we finish this out here. But I really like that Jalen coaker value because it's not a ton of value that's floating out. There's a couple tight ends. There's a couple quarterbacks, but from the skill position standpoint, it's slim pickings and Dylan Samson was your pick, Tara. Well, yeah, I didn't love that. I was just looking at I got sniped on Keaton Mitchell. Thank you, thinker. That was a good pick because that for all we know, I mean, just based off a very interesting usage. Maybe there's more of a handcuffed direct handcuffed situation there than we were thinking with Keaton Mitchell. So I love that pick. Jalen coaker knew what I was going where they're with again, you know, touchdown equity in the Panther's offense is shaky. But following to the 11th, that's really good value. Dylan Samson, this is another one that is more suited for PPR, but thought process here. If there are any lingering issues or perhaps a new issue that pops up with Quenchon Judkins, that would open up some more opportunities for Samson. So just a handcuffing situation with a little bit of standalone value. Khalil Shakir, Brian Robinson, and then Ryan with Dalton Kincaid. Kincaid really seemed like there was some value that did you already have a tight end? Or was that your first one? I did. Yes, I already had Sam LaPorta, but at this point of the draft, who Kincaid sitting there in the 11th or 12th round with the touchdown equity that you have with a team like Buffalo, I can't pass on that at all. And with with how he was playing before the injury last year too, it was just unstoppable. I don't see that not stopping again this year. Mark Andrews was the pick right after. Joanne Johnson, so big tight end one and Dalton Schultz. She's I didn't realize that. Braille and Allen and that is a great pick, Debro Don TV and Wix. I've really warmed up to him this off season. When Mikhail Eman being kind of a failure to launch with the hamstring issue, I'm not projecting it this way, but I think there is a possibility we could see Don Tavy and Wix, who's been like a deeper separation rap win rate darling over the last two years. Now in a full time role with Philly, he's having a fantastic camp. There's a run out where Don Tavy and Wix shoves Mikhail Eman into a very Luther Burton S Gricky season that nobody's ready for that conversation, but it's possible. All right, I'm going to go with the backup tight end and Jake Ferguson, just simply because I had Travis Kelsey. I think I was like a little susceptible there. And again, coming back to our buzzword of touch on equity. That's what I wanted to play. And then well, I kind of hate everything. I am going to still not get into the kicker defense range. And I'm going to take my boy, Emma Johnson. Emma Johnson is a is a flyer touchdown high in touchdown RB guy. If there's any injuries with Ken Walker and that's going to fill out for me. That's going to fill out my positional stuff. So I am going to be going kicker defense. Does anybody here feel that there is anything? I know we didn't do it. So you're probably going to say no. But like Ryan, I'll ask you, is there any like we should be drafting one of the kickers we Aubrey is an advantage? Maybe defensively, the Rams are Texans. Did anybody feel the pole of wanting to take a kicker defense earlier? Or is it just last two rounds, lock it up like everybody? Yeah, no. OK, nobody. No hand down. No, no, no. All right, good. All right, I thought I could get somebody, but the fact I took the fact I took a quarter back before round seven was a big step for me. So we had Martian Lloyd and Isaiah Pacheco go between my image, Johnson picks. Cyrus Allen's a really good one. That's another one of those sneaky ones is just kind of floating down there. Um, we had a Washington looks phenomenal with Vegas. Yes, he has. My RB two of this draft class pre draft, I'd loved Mike Wash coming out as a prospect. He's looked fantastic. My top of my queue was March on Lloyd and Mike Washington, Jr. So I look at both those guys are the clear and definitive handcuffs for their offenses. Gentie goes down, Josh Jacobs gets suspended. The MCL stuff lingers. I think Lloyd is going to be the clear guy there. Uh, we had our first defense and the third, instead of this is where they should be going about 13th round. We had the Houston Texan. Now we're going to see the run. Yeah, we're going to see the run of the kickers and the defenses going to start happening. Uh, the Rams went immediately after then Sean Tucker and then Ryan, you've got your defense in here. You're in a good position. I'm probably in like, well, I guess I'm not in the worst position, but I sure it's held not in a great position for this. Uh, you got the Broncos. The Seahawks went right after. So you're in this defensive range. Anything just you wanted to top in defense. Do value defense over kicker here? I do value defense over kickers. I just find the kickers to be so volatile. Um, it's a, it's an up and down thing. I actually haven't had kickers in any of my personal leagues in probably eight years now. So it's a very foreign concept. I have a balance though, but there's, there's been some interesting discourse online where people are like, because there's a lot of us. I mean, obviously there's like the jakes of the world who are just so anti kicker. There's a lot of us that don't do want to go crazy into the value of trying to draft them because like we're going to draft them at the back end of rounds. But there's a lot of people that are pushing back that it's like, well, there's some advantages and stuff like that. I'm not necessarily sure I agree unless you do do like wacky scoring where something I firmly disagree with is like a 41 yard field goal being like 4.1 points. Like it should just be like really standard eyes of like under 50 is three points. Maybe you could do four points for over 50 and then five points over 60 or something like that. But kickers are very divisive subject, at least online right now. Uh, we had the Seahawks go. We had Fair Baron and then Tara, you took, uh, Trey Tucker and then you took a defense before kicker. You went with Eagle. So anything to share on either of those picks? Yeah, the strategy wise, I don't, I don't mind streaming kicker. So I'm okay with saving that one for the last round there. Um, I did want to say is a side note. Deeper of shout out to another Mike Washington truther. There we go. Well, I love it. He's good at football. Yes, it's really good. Uh, Baltimore Ravens went 14 to we had, uh, Dicker, the kicker go 14 three Cam little. That's a, I mean, it's a great pick for you, Ryan. Just, you know, get a, get somebody on a high scoring offense and, uh, you know, personally, when it comes to kickers, I like to look for those offenses, offenses that are going to move the ball down feel, but not necessarily score often. You want to get those, those field goals, right? But on an offense like the chargers, they're going to be in scoring position. They're going to get their field goals. They're going to get their touchdowns. You're going to get lots of points out of him, not much more to explain than that. We had, there you go. Uh, we had the Steelers Malik Willis can get sneaked in there. We had the bangles, uh, bow nicks. There's another sneak one chargers. Uh, Debro, you tackle the chargers. Any, any big defensive breakdowns you want to throw at us, uh, they get the cardinals and the Raiders, the weeks one and two. That's all you need to know draft the chargers. I like it. Uh, duh, duh, duh. We went with the Vikings. I took the Patriots. That was a top lift, according to fantasy pros on the defensive side. And then the Jaguars went 1412. This should be a big kicker round. We had Myers go 151. I was locked into Panero. So again, for me, give me kickers that are either, uh, like an indoor or high powered offense, high powered offense being the first most important thing. So love Panero McPherson goes, um, McLaughlin goes to you. Debro again, Tampa Bay offense, anything extra there. No, just invest in good offense, kicker analysis. Hashtag. All right, I'm not going to go into crazy more of this. Let me ask you this while we're doing our last picks. Debrose since you and I are done, where do you think you are going to just do this quick? Because the draft will be done here in a second. Where do you think you're going to be, um, bottom third, middle third or top third of the, I actually really love this team. This is probably going to burn me horribly. I think this is going to be a top five team. Maybe I'm over muskies here. I think I'm going to be, I also think I'm going to be top five. So this is a problem. Um, let's see, duh, duh, duh, Ryan's up here. Tara, where do you think you're going to be? I'll go in the middle. I want to keep it modest. Hopefully, over to you that expectations, you don't want to get buried like us whenever we're like, well, should I or we're probably like assume we're alive in the bottom five. We're guaranteed 11 and 12. Yeah, we are after that analysis. We are guaranteed to be the worst on YouTube. I like Belle. I like Belle's a bit real quick. Ryan, where do you think you're going to be? I'm going to be in the middle probably. Okay, so we got two medals. So no one's going to be in the full bottom half here. So we got Tara. Tara's last pick and then we are going to see, oh, I nailed it. I am in the top five. And I am 12 that again, there you go. I'm 10th. I told you I told you as soon as I said it. And I love this team. So I adamantly disagree with the grace here to be kidding me that you were not just low. You were the bot. All right. So here is the finish that kills me. Your top 12 deep row at the bottom. Trusted venom at 11. Tara, you finished 10. What's happening here? We had thinker at nine. AM at a DVR at seven. Ryan, you finished six. So that does mean I am the big winner here of us. I finished fifth. Kicker love at four. Big C at three. AMM at two. And Makalaka finished with the number one. I ended up getting a B. I think that's what Ryan most likely would have got. Maybe a B or a B minus. And then your score is very, um, an interesting number, by the way. Yeah, um, uh, it is an interesting number. It's the mark of the beast. I didn't even realize that. I am the mark of the beast one. Six, six, six, uh, D row. Just real quick is we're going to break this down. Let's see. Draft. I'm going to look at your team. You had Brock, pretty at quarterback. Hampton, Javante Williams as you're running backs. Puka and Christian Watson as your wide receivers. George Kiddell at tight end, DJ, more at Flex. Really strong. Chargers defense and McLaughlin at kicker. Your bench was Ramandra Stevenson Riko, Mike Washington. in White Out, you had dobs and wicks and you had Dallas Goddard in there. Is anything you would have rather have done differently? I mean, the projections don't necessarily mean everything here, but you just, you hate to see the last spot. Should this really have been last? I, I mean, roast me, everybody roast me. Like if you hate this team, roast me, I, I, I love this team. I, I don't understand why I got crushed, but I did get crushed. I mean, it has me like eighth at tight end when I got George Kittle and Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard was tight in five and standard last year. So I don't, why are you? I don't flex with DJ Moore either. I don't, I don't, I don't know. I'm literally speechless. Like roast me. Tara, we all might, no, we all must have been really good. Well, tell me what sucks, um, I can't tell you what sucks about your team. Cause I don't think it does. I know that this draft hated my wide receivers. That was really, it's telling me wide receivers, subpar selections. And then also said, hey, girl, you should have done something other than Tyler Warren. Yeah. We'll look at that. We'll look at that here in a second. This is what's really funny. On the insights when you're doing the mod drafts, and once you finish the mod draft, you're going to get pick analysis. The number one change it had, unfortunately for your team, it really didn't do too much for you. The, the pick analysis that you take Jordan Addison instead of Dallas Goddard. That would have been a big boost for you. Jordan Addison and Jake Ferguson over Dallas Goddard and Don Tavy and Wix. Or if I had to go on Malik neighbors and Alizeia Bacheco over Javonte and Wix, like the funniest thing about this though is under experts. The number one lover of his team is there on brand, I gave myself a 94. So I, at least I'm drafting based off of what I like. He's consistent people on brands, Brent Merchantson Lee were he also liked it. He had one F that was from Lawrence, Icona, who did not like yours. Nobody here or anything like that, hating it. So that was a C unfortunately. We'll go take a look at Tara, who Tara finished in the 10 spot. The team was, as I go over to Trevor Lawrence, a quarterback. You had Derek Henry and Sayquan absolutely sick running back pair with Whiteouts of T Higgins and a Mecca. I really like that. Tyler Warren tied in. Jameson Williams that flexed with the Eagles and Bates as the defense and kicker. Your bench. I'm a non guy. Algier and Samson as your backup running backs, conception on Coker and Trey Tucker as your wide receivers. I actually, I think the structure of your team looks really good, but maybe it just didn't like some of the pairings. I'm not 100% sure, but yeah, you were ninth at wide receiver, ninth at quarterback, middle of the pack kind of on the rest, but you finish with a ninth starter, 11 bench. So any thought you want to throw on this Tara? Yeah, you know, I love the running bugs, I'm noticing as I'm looking. The combination of Derek Henry and Sayquan Berkeley, I think might have also been a weird one, but in standard, I love that combination. I can see why that. It would be a big problem in half PPR, obviously, and full PPR for sure, but in standard, I would double down on that direction 100% every time. Yeah. And only worry with your team, Tara, is if a Mecca's toe injury, it lingers by only worry would be the wide receivers, but I think you backed it up with two great upside shots with Casey Katsy on and Jalen Cokeers. So Lawrence, by the way, just as the biggest hater, Lawrence also hated yours more than anybody. And it was a Mecca, but funny, the second biggest hater was deep brown, Derek frowned, Derek. It's like, I liked your team, though, too, so it's like what a Derek Henry, you hit, you hit it. That's where I have Sayquan lower than consensus. So that's probably drawing a lot of that here. Yeah. The top spots Seth Miller, like this team, the most with a plus 97 out of 100. You did have the number five consensus sleeper RV, which was Dylan Samson. So those are a few of the insights. And again, they've got the what if stuff, pick analysis, how do you take in Brian Thomas? They said at 712, instead of Trevor Lawrence, you would have scored 25 points higher. Unfortunately, I mean, that would have gotten you to about sick eighth or seventh or something like that, but it wouldn't have done anything crazy. So that is your team going over to Ryan, the fantasy dude, finishing with an 85 out of 100. And we're going to take a look at this team structure. Ryan's team was Joe Borough at quarterback, Christian McCaffrey and Jeremiah Love at RV. I forgot you got McCaffrey. You see all those rookies with McCaffrey. Drake London and Rishi Rice at wide receiver, similar port at Titan, Jadarian Price was the flex, Broncos and Cam little defense and kicker and on the bench, only one running back on the bench, Tajay Spears, heavy whiteouts, Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, Dejeanne Stribling, Chris Bell, and then you got Dalton Kincaid. So what do you think overall, you think you did say middle of the pack so you kind of nailed this, Ryan? Yeah. I mean, I said it with the Jeremiah Love pick with mock drafts, you want to try things out. You want to try and take players you're not comfortable with, see how you feel about it. You're not trying to win a mock draft. You're trying to see what you're happy with with your team. I wasn't happy with Jeremiah Love. I'm going to be honest with you, but I tried it out. Otherwise, when it comes to my team, I really like the addition of Jadarian Price as my flex. It's on upside, especially in a standard league is going to be pretty big for him, having Sam Laporte fall down as far as he did was also kind of a blessing. But yeah, for the most part, I'm happy with the team, but there are a couple picks I might have done differently along the way. The biggest one on under the pick analysis is it said, you had taken James and Williams at five, nine over Jadarian Price and then it had a suggestion on what you could have done later. You would have scored 37 more points in a row. And that would have gotten you third place, had you made that change. So that's kind of like in tow with what you're talking about, very, very funny. I got to say the running joke, though, deep, bro, you're on this again and you hate this team. You're the fourth lowest score with a D at 66 icon or, yeah, I think it's, I, I kind of just hates all the team. So that must be a bug. But Joel Smith from Yahoo, number one with a 96, you got a lot of 94, 95, I see Tom Stracken in here. Norris, you had some really good people liking your team overall except deep, bro. And that's the right thing. Well, and I don't want to be very, very particular. My, my hate and the reason I think that my grade is lower is I'm dramatically below consensus. So I'm Rashee Rice and Jeremiah love just because I'm scared about them. But to do, like, and outline both of those picks and the, the, you know, the thought behind this exercise. All right. So my team, I ended with Jalen Hertz at quarterback, Bijan and Kyron Williams at running back. And Mike Evans at wide receiver Kelsey's my starting Titan and Travis H in as my flex. I like that Patriots on the defense, Pinero at kicker, my bench. I got Chris Rodriguez and Emma Johnson as my backup running backs. My backup wide else for Marvin Harrison, Chris Godwin, Josh Downs, and I also took Jake Ferguson. I very much like my team. I was given the number one flex. So that was me going high and running back that they hated my wide receivers though. I think Mike Evans in standard didn't, it didn't equate to because it gave me 12 at wide receiver. And if you go on the spider chart, it gave me the worst second wide receiver you could have of really. Yeah. I just I completely disagree. Standard league with Mike Evans. Right. Yeah. If you go under too strength, you can see this really disagree with that. Yeah. But running backs. It gave me the number two overall running back. The number three RB two in Kyron Williams and the number one flex. So I really kind of strengthed up strength up there. If you will. Yeah. I mean, it ended up working out. I guess Alec Cup loved my team the most. Unfortunately, the DeBro love ends here. But I got I got A's and A pluses at a 97, but Erickson didn't like my team. But I will say I did not get a single F. I got one D and then a couple C's. So no F's in there. So my team ended up being 86 out of 100. I'll kind of take that. And then the final thing to throw at you was what the number one team looked like. I just want to give the draft board for Makalaka was Jackson Dart at quarterback. Jamir Gibbs, Dave Montgomery running back, Devonta Smith and Terry McClurent at White receiver. Brock Bowers at tight end, carnal Tate at Flex, Jags and Myers at defense kicker on the bench. It was Dobbins, White, Pacheco and Marshall Lloyd and backup Whiteouts were Stefan Diggs and Boston. I don't actually particularly think this looks like a number one, but I think this is the best bench bar none between anybody. There's a little bit lacking on the starters to me, but I see a ton of exams on this team. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. This is the number one run. I mean, I wouldn't I don't know if I agree with the number one, but I definitely see why it's ranking in it. Number one, when you look at Gibbs, Monty Smith, you know, Bowers, all this touchdown upside here in a standard in a standard league. The bench is deep. I love the bench. You're not kidding on that at all. So I definitely see why this one's at number one, but not a team. I would probably draft. I think the fact that they drafted, possibly the two players that could finish top, like number one at their respective positions and Gibbs, not really hearing a lot of water. Yeah. Well, we'd love to hear from you guys in the comments below. We finally rocked in a standard mock draft. What do you guys think? What was your favorite build? What were some of your favorite picks? And also, who are some of the players that need to change and adjust where you're normally drafting players like we did with Mike Evans or Devonta Adams or Derek Henry, who are some of those players that you think need to be boosting up. You guys can drop in the comments below. And when you do so and you're subscribed, you were putting yourself in a chance to have Colson Lovelin autographed Jersey coming to your house. You can win that autographed Jersey. We'd love for you to have it. And if you guys are getting set for your mock drafts, you can do just like we did here today, going over to the draft simulator, finisupros.com/mock. You can also just click through the draft simulator. You can set up private mock drafts where it's just you, if you want. I'd also say you can sync up your league. You can do your draft settings. You can practice against ECR or you can jump into those public mock drafts and you can draft against people all day long. 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