2026 Dynasty WR Prospects + Flavor Town - Dynasty Fantasy Football

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg, Betts, and a Baller. Welcome in. It's a big episode here. Episode 155. Wow. Mid-intro. Didn't let the guitar play out there, Kyle. I mean, you were just excited for this show. And who wouldn't be? Because the people, I don't think they were super happy with the order we went. Like, you know, like, people are really excited about this wide receiver class. Rightfully so. And you guys did running backs without me, unfortunately. Then we hit quarterbacks, which we could really say it's quarterback. And the tight end group, which, I mean, I like tight ends. I'm excited. But the wide receivers are the headliners here. So people, I think, have been waiting, like, where is the wide receiver show? It is here, but I think we're going to need, like, three episodes to talk about all the prospects here. It's a deep class, but we're going to talk about the big names that you all probably know by now. I'm excited about today's show. It should be a good one. I feel like with wide receivers, you and I get to paint with a couple of different paintbrushes. And. Very specific. Very sophisticated. Yeah, I know that that hits most of our audience who spend the offseason just painting in front of a canvas. But we get to describe them in a lot of different ways. We get to talk about, you know, here's the type of routes this player used. Here's how they're using their offense. Here's how they profile. Here's how they compare to the NFL. Here's what they're not doing. And I like going through all those different doors. It would be very easy to say, this player's number one on my board. And, you know, you can give, like, a statistic that says, you know, this player's number one on my board. And, you know, you can give, like, a statistic that says, here's the breakout age or here's their production. When right now, it's February 25th, I haven't fully arrived with this class yet. That's okay. For sure. And actually, one of the guys we're going to talk about today, you know, like, when you hear bits and pieces about a certain player, you start to get this image of your mind of what the player is and is not. And then, and that can be good or bad, just depending on how you do your process. But, like, when you go back and then actually kind of, like, dive back into the numbers further, watch them for a second or a third time, you start to notice stuff you didn't know. You didn't notice the first time. And so, you change your opinion a little bit. And I think that's okay. Like, people want black and white as early as possible in this process to say, here's the rankings. They're not really going to change. This is definitely wide receiver one. This is definitely wide receiver four. But the truth is, a lot of this stuff is going to develop and change over the course of the next two to three months. When we get one of the biggest pieces of the entire puzzle, which is draft capital, we mentioned last week at the tight end position. It matters, but it can be overblown because certain tight ends are drafted for a specific role in an offense. At wide receiver, like, we know the deal. These top round one guys that go in the top 10, top 15, the hit rate is awesome. The fringe guys, the guys that slip to day two, it's kind of a crapshoot. So, we're going to get that final data piece that will shift a little bit of thinking on some aspects of what we're doing here. But it is fun to just let this be a fluid process throughout the entire spring until we finally get to a decision. And really, you don't have to make that decision, honestly, unless you're doing like a sicko style dynasty league where you're doing your draft before the NFL draft. You don't have to make that decision until late April. So, we have time to just get this information, watch some more tape, you know, do all those things, let the combine happen, and go from there. One of the data points that I think kind of makes sure that people understand how important and how much we don't know yet. One of our writers, Marvin Eloquin, he does a lot of our dynasty stuff. He put out this tweet, and I thought it was really helpful. He looked at the correlation coefficients, which is really fun stuff. Oh, my gosh, Kyle. You already lost half the audience. What correlates most with fantasy points per game for prospects? Nerd. The lowest possible thing you could look at is their three-cone drill. It's not great. And we talk about that a lot. 40 time was next lowest, as in it doesn't correlate very well, people running around in their underwear as fast as they can. Vertical. So, a lot of the combine stuff we would say for wide receivers will inform probably more so what the NFL thinks than how we look at it for fantasy. And then, you know, yards per outruns, fine. I talk about it a lot. We talk about it a lot. It's fine. It gives us an indicator of what they did in college. But by far, the data point that is the strongest to fantasy point production, isn't that crazy? It's just draft capital. So, at the end of the day, if you have a round one wide receiver, and the NFL thinks about them that way, that should weigh heavily into the process. It's not the only part. It's not the end-all, be-all. But that's what we will find over the next month or so. So, let your process evolve over time. Don't just take one. Take one tweet that Betts threw out there where he's just trashing the universe about a certain player, and let that ruin your day. Kyle, these guys are all going to the Hall of Fame, okay? So, I only put out the good stuff about all these players. So, you won't find any negatives on my profile. But before we jump into the show, I would be remiss if we didn't just bring up the fact that corporate sucks. I mean, where are these guys? That is the longest intro. I know there's people clocking you right now, as the kids say, clocking. And if we're over five minutes. Five minutes in. This is ridiculous. Ridiculous. I mean, they don't care about the show. They don't care about you guys. But Kyle and I, we love you. We all love you so much. We're here for you to break down these prospects. But yeah, corporate, let's just say they're in off-season mode, and they might not come back. I'm just kidding. They'll be here next week. Yeah, they'll be back. They'll totally be back. Speaking of corporate, we do need to mention that if you order the UDK or the UDK Plus before March 1st, that's coming up, you are entered to win a spot in the Listener League. You get the UDK Plus. You get the lowest possible price, and you get access to all of the profiles, all of our write-ups. We're adding in our scouting report notes of the players that we're talking about on today's podcast, the top-end quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends. All of those are found in the Dynasty Pass, and the best part is that thing updates throughout the process. So we'll have our risers and fallers after the Combine. We will get to add some more info. And then the best part is that you get the UDK. You get the Ultimate Draft Kit, which year in, year out, we do the math. It ends up being about. It ends up being about 90,000 to 100,000 words worth of information that you can spend your entire summer just reading away. I mean, some people say, you know, in the summer, it's a great time to go outside, see your family, if you've got kids, hang out with your kids. We say, no. Sneak away from your family, read the Ultimate Draft Kit every day, basically until kickoff, and your entire summer will be made. No, man, it's such a good deal. I love it. And you mentioned that update is coming basically a week from, like, yesterday. We'll have that out there as the. Combine is happening this week. I know last week you were like, hey, you know, in a month when the Combine happens, I was like, Kyle, it's literally two weeks. So it's Combine week, which I'm excited about. And we'll have the update for you guys, risers, fallers. And you mentioned last week that little tidbit about, like, our scouting notes and stuff like that are in there. Those will be added as well in this most. This next update, I should say, which is happening literally next week. UltimateDraftKit.com, if you want to get in on that. I do have a fun quick question before we hit the top five prospects. I was inspired. I was inspired by a tweet from Daniel Jeremiah, who's truly, you know, one of the goats of the industry, one of the people that we look to the most in this season. Not perfect, but I think he does a good job of kind of giving a pulse of where things are. And he threw this out there. He said, there will be a lot of variance in wide receivers, and he mentions edge rushers, across different teams. There are so many similarly graded players with totally different skill sets. It's a flavor draft. And I thought about that because when we talk about the receivers today, we. We analyze them and their skill set and how they're utilized. We need to think that NFL GMs and teams are thinking about their team. They're thinking about the coaching staff, the offensive system. And they might approach this very differently across the board. We'll talk about Mekhi Lemon. If you want a slot-wide receiver, hint, he's not just a slot-wide receiver, but that's kind of how he's been profiled. A team might pick him over Jordan Tyson, who profiles a little differently, in the same way with Cornell Tate. So, I wanted to ask you this question. We're going to develop this together. Let's think about categories for NFL wide receivers. And then, what type of flavor are they? And I'm going to just, you know, comp them to wings. Are you a big, like, wing guy? I actually do like wings a lot. I used to go once a week with all my high school buddies. It's obviously a long time ago. I had wings most recently, like a week ago, for the first time in, like, a month. And I was like, man, I kind of forgot how good these are. So, I am a wing guy. I do like them. My boys are starting to get into it. So, that's, like, part of, like, not. They don't like the hot stuff, but they're willing. They're willing to try out different things. And so, I'm kind of rolling with it. And I took a couple of flavors here for our little process that are from my favorite wings spot. Okay? So, just a little shout out. ATL's Best Wings. That's what I'm going for here. What a name. Those are the flavors that I. I know. They just. It's like for the SEO. They're just like. I was going to say, if you search Atlanta's Best Wings, that has to come up first. Oh, for sure. No. If I'm starting up a new, you know, new restaurant, it's going to be like restaurant near me. That's what it's going to be called. So. The first category we're going to do is X wide receiver. So, basically, the receivers that can do it all, that profile is number one. They're often physical because they get pressed to the line of scrimmage. For me, the flavor. This is my favorite flavor. Okay? It's lemon pepper. I don't know if you feel the same way. It's not my favorite, but I do like it. Okay. So, that's like my go-to. If I'm thinking like, do it all, wide receiver, and I'm picking a wing, it's usually lemon pepper. Who are the wide receivers that come to your mind in the NFL right now? I mean, how does the first name not be Jermar Chase? Right? Like, he literally can do everything. Because it's Puka Nakua. Puka will be up there. Justin Jefferson will be up there. Who else you got? AJ Brown in his prime is up there. I think of Chase and Puka as the ones that can block at the line of scrimmage, too. Where, like, Puka was probably one of the best wide receiver blockers in the league last year. And then, obviously, had an unreal season. So, those are the two. I think Neighbors could be that guy. He just doesn't have the same frame. As Chase and Puka. So, when I'm thinking, like, X wide receiver, the flavor, if your team wants it, those are the guys that you model after. If you're looking for a slot wide receiver, which, to me, that's teriyaki. It's not for everybody. Okay? But sometimes, that's what I want. That's a good comp. I like that. I mean, the first name that comes to mind for me, you guys will be shocked to hear this, is Amon Ra St. Brown. What's weird about Amon Ra, which we'll talk about him today and kind of explain how he's comped so much to Mekhi Lemon, is that he's had so much more success even on the outside the last couple of years. So, when he came out of USC, he was seen as a slot wide receiver who fell to the fourth round, but he actually played a lot outside his final year at USC. So, it's like the best slot wide receiver in football right now, Amon Ra, is also kind of one of the best outside. It's wild to be able to say that. I put Ladd down as one of my favorites. Ladd. I'm so disappointed by last year. But, yes. He is up there. You have Chris Olave on the list. I think that's fine. CeeDee Lamb, certainly up there on the list. This is like the cheat code in fantasy. The guys that can move into the slot and get the high percentage layup type stuff, but also in two high receiver sets. They don't leave the field. They just kick outside and they still win. That is like what the top tier receivers are in the NFL today. So, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. And, obviously, I have to mention Keenan contractually because truly, truly one of the greats. Yes. What about someone who is a zone buster? So, if you're looking for a wide receiver, that they have the IQ, the ability to read the defenses, I put them down as like, this is just a standard. You need this no matter what. Like a Buffalo, like a medium. Medium hot wing. The classic. Yes. Everybody likes it. You got to have it. Yeah. JSN, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee. What do you think about Drake London? I think London's an interesting name to throw in here because he came into the league. As like, oh, well, this is just a jump ball guy. And slowly but surely, they've moved him in the slot and manufactured these, you know, easier targets for him. Now, he's had a hard time staying on the field just because he's been hurt every so often. The team's also had a lot of turnover at quarterback. But London might be one of those players that when we're comparing prospects in the future, we shouldn't just say this guy's just a downfield guy, 50-50 ball guy. He can do a lot of different things. And so, he is one of my favorite players. Obviously, I'm a Falcons fan. But, like, I feel like he's just like a smart player. He knows how to use his body. He knows how to use space. He's a buffalo. Literally. All right. I need something spicy here. Who is the wide receivers that you think of when you think of stretching the defense? So, if a team needs somebody to get behind the defense, keep defenses honest, who are the wide receivers you think of? But the guys that will actually see a target when they do it? Yes. Not the, like, the, you know, nine route and, like, not the Calvin Austens. Okay. There's also Jahan Dotson, who will do this, but he will not see the ball at all this year. I mean, when you have Jame on the other side of the line of scrimmage, don't you just have fear in your heart? Like, you know what could possibly happen. George Pickens, when he's at the height of his game. George Pickens. I think Scary Terry is probably an underrated pick for this. Last year was so tough injury-wise. And, obviously, the commanders had a really significant regression from what they did two years ago. But, like, when he and Jaden are on, I mean, Terry on the deep ball is money. Yeah. And if you need, like, a discount spicy, like, Kayshaun Booty. He's kind of morphed into that player. Do you, I don't like super spicy wings, though. I need to put that out there. I do like spicy, but there's definitely a fine line. Like, my brother-in-law, like, he enjoys, like, when he's, like, crying and, like, it hurts. I'm like, I don't, like, I guess that's fine for some people. But, like, that level, to me, is not fun. But he, like, loves it. So, I do like spicy, but there's a fine line. Like, and I don't really have in-depth conversations. But, like, if you have truly spicy stuff, are you just, like, paying for it the next day? Like, are you just, like, brutally murdered when you're on the toilet? I will ask my brother-in-law. Okay. I'll report back. Tell him it's from me. A couple more categories here. Looking for a red zone weapon. So, somebody that has the footwork, the jump ball ability. This is, like, the honey barbecue. Like, barbecue is kind of, like, a safe standard. But I like the honey barbecue a little bit more. Yeah, I do, too. How do you not go with the goal line wide receiver? Nice. Devonta Adams. I mean, in the red zone, that guy is unbelievable. Mike Evans. Touchdown machine. I like that you have Cortland Sutton on this list. Because I feel like Cortland Sutton, when he came out as a prospect, he was, like, the hotness, right? Everybody was very excited about him. And he kind of had, like, a four-year lull where it was, like, he's fine. And now he's had this, like, two-year resurgence with Bo Nix where he's been very good. So, I do like Cortland Sutton on the list here. What's interesting about that class that he came out of is 2018. He came out of SMU, second-round pick. A lot of those dudes just haven't lasted that long in the NFL. It was, like, Christian Kirk was in that class. Michael Gallup was in that class. And then you have, like, DJ Moore, Calvin Ridley that have hung around. But, like, Sutton's kind of just stayed pretty consistent, you know, getting the extra contract recently. So, it's not the sexiest. Honey barbecue is not the sexiest thing that you could order. Put it that way. Certainly not. Okay. All right. Two more categories here. I'm just talking about a playmaker. If an NFL team says, I just need to add somebody who's a playmaker, the, quote, get-the-ball-in-his-hands guy, I put Caribbean Jerk, which I don't know if you like that flavor. I don't really. But I like it. Okay. Who do you got? I think Neighbors is probably my favorite example of when you just see him get the ball in his hands. Great things happen after the catch, before the catch, all that stuff. But I think Luther Burden's kind of, like, what people want the next guy to be in that category. I mean, the guy that, I don't think he's there right now because he's kind of starting to age out. But, like, four years ago, Debo. Samuel, on those insanely efficient Niners years, out of the backfield, in the slot, down the field, breaking tackles. I mean, just figure out how to get Debo the ball in, you know, 2021, and good things are going to happen. Last category is the Cardio Kings, which they have a role in the NFL. These are guys that are just like, hey, you're running the nine route. This is what, like, Dante Thornton Jr. did this past year. It was just like, hey, we're not going to throw it to you, but just run. A lot of empty routes, a lot of empty calories. These are the boneless swings. These are the people that say, you know what? I'm going to a wing place, and I'm going to eat with a fork. You're putting a lot of people on notice listening to this show, Kyle. Like, I will eat boneless wings if they're in front of me. If they're the only option? Yeah, but I'm not ordering them. I'm not out of, like, shame. I mean, I have respect for myself, okay? I'm not going to do that. Yeah, so these are wide receivers that, they're there, but their purpose really isn't to, like, be a wing or be a wide receiver. It's just. It's Jahan Dotson. Oh, man. I was thinking of. That's who it is. I was thinking of what Alec Pierce used to be, and now he's not one of these dudes. He is going to make a lot of money in about a month. Who else? I'm trying to think of a good example of previously. MBS? Oh, MBS is one of the best at this kind of stuff. I mean, I will say Andre Yoshivas kind of does this a lot, where it's like, he's one of the leaders in routes the last two years. Then you look up, you're like, oh, you have a nine. You have a nine percent target share. Van Jefferson is one of my favorites in this category, just because he's been a running joke for so long between us of just like, dude, coaches trust you. You somehow are still in the NFL. How? I don't know, but he's doing it. He's running the routes. All right. Let's take a quick break, and then we'll talk about these receivers. We have scouted. We've scouted the running backs. We've scouted the quarterbacks, tight ends, wide receivers. Here we come. Wide receivers. I love the fact that we get to spend time on these five players today. And if you're listening in and you're saying, why are you not talking about this other receiver? All these other podcasts do, or I already have my opinion. We're still watching film for a lot of these guys, and we have a lot more time in front of us over the next couple weeks, where we will have another episode coming up. We're completely on wide receivers. We will have another episode that's literally called Deep Dives. So, hey, I looked at this player who's getting day two buzz. Here's what I think about them. Here's what they could be. And we'll also find out what the NFL thinks after the combine. If one of these wide receivers, like one of the names that's getting thrown around a lot is Brennan Thompson of Mississippi State. If he runs a sub 4-3, he's going to end up a day two pick. Probably. And we would say. That you shouldn't really change your opinion about a player based on their 40 time. It's a data point. But for us, like all the other stuff we're seeing should be weighed much more heavily. However, the NFL will look at that player and be like, ooh, I like them a little bit more. John Ross or whoever. As our examples, your buddy Xavier Worthy, who, you know, fast, not as fast in pads, as they say. Turns out running in a straight line with nobody in front of you does not translate to being a good football player. We are three years removed from that conversation, by the way. that's crazy man and you know what this isn't a I was right or I was wrong it was just my comment was I didn't feel like he was as fast in pads sure sure what did we say Kyle does he get a good second contract in the NFL a good second contract I think he gets a second contract I don't know what that means but yes I mean look Rishi Rice is doing everything in his power to give Xavier Worthy more chances in the NFL good lord dude so I think he probably gets an opportunity to prove that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of rookie year without Rice to like what we saw last year and obviously he was injured but yeah I think he gets a second contract one of the things that we look at and we'll reference it as we go through these prospects is there are certain thresholds that a player meets or doesn't meet based on here's what a wide receiver draft in the first round has done over the last decade so we have all the data of if you're drafted in round one here's typically what you should look like or you should be close to so the names that we always throw out there is like Jalen Rager his production profile went back through it again blew my mind that a team like the Eagles would draft him so highly and especially above Justin Jefferson imagine terrible franchise and yet he did have an early breakout age so like if you were a breakout age only guy which I know you are that's the only part of the spreadsheet then that would look different so we have different thresholds we'll talk about we'll talk about what they did against zone coverage because that matters a lot we'll talk about their different you know types of player they are and would you say before we get into Carnell Tate to start these are the big five that have kind of separated or you think there's kind of like a you know a couple other names that we should throw in there the way that I view this class right now is that there is a big three in Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon and Jordan Tyson then I have a tear break personally and then I think you could probably whatever you prefer as far as the next kind of tier I think Casey Concepcion might be like in his own little mini tier and then like Denzel Boston right after that but I do agree like that's probably the top five right now I will say the Omar Cooper Jr. hype train is currently headed full force and probably not going to stop anytime soon and it's so funny man like this time of year I love Twitter Twitter is a great place but like everybody loves to share you know their favorite sleeper and this guy is definitely going to translate to the pros and this guy is popping in all my models and all this sort of stuff and like everybody's favorite sleeper right now is Omar Cooper Jr. and so I don't know if he even is a sleeper anymore and now he's getting some potential kind of could he sneak into the first round buzz and he might enter this kind of back end of the you know top five type conversation I know some people have him in their top four top three as far as like real life NFL rankings do so he was getting a lot of love but I would say right now for me the top three at the top are in their own tier and then you can kind of you know sort from there yeah I think I'm kind of in a similar spot as of this recording right now and it is a good reminder that everyone ends up copying copying off each other's papers when it comes to mock draft oh Omar Cooper he's a top 50 player okay that's kind of like the sentiment of where he goes and then you just kind of keep reiterating the same fact of what people are feel like oh he kind of goes in this region when there's so much we don't know we don't really understand the perfect example is Troy Franklin a player that we all loved a couple years ago and you just kind of assumed he'd end up being round one or round two ends up going to round four and it was you know it's one thing to say his weight and everything else was a big part of why he wasn't drafted so highly but for a long time we just kind of said this is where he goes this is like I didn't have another point other than I liked his production profile and I thought he'd go in this direction because everybody drafted him there so things can change I think for these top couple names most of them feel like first round picks and we'll start with Cornell Tate junior out of Ohio State so a long line of Ohio State wide receivers which we'll talk about 6'3 195 so not as thick maybe as like other people think of these wide receivers like Marv or some of the other wide receivers he grew up in Chicago he's a five star recruit he was the number three wide receiver coming out of IMG Academy which I talked about that a couple weeks ago and then part of his story just before we even get to the other part is like he came to college one of the first things that happened is his mother died that's like a it's like a huge part of like the back story of this man yeah crazy story unfortunate obviously I know there was some interviews that he did with it very close with her and you know try to like go to college A B play on Ohio State where the pressure is insane and then have this tragic life event where you have to overcome it I think speaks a lot to who he is as a person people talk about him very highly from a football IQ intelligence I think he was like I don't want to misquote this but I think he earned a lot of like academic honors this past year too at Ohio State so by all accounts really good dude which unfortunately you can't say about everybody that enters the NFL so the background on this guy is awesome I will say if you're looking at this without context at his production profile from an analytical perspective it's not the best we've ever seen for a guy that's projected by a lot of mocks to go in the top 10 and I would say barring anything unforeseen top 15 feels almost like a lock at this point for Carnell Tate the production profile for that type of guy usually is elite of the elite for him it's not and it's not necessarily his fault when you go to Ohio State you understand what's going to happen is you are surrounded by future NFL pros that enter with you that are in front of you and then you have guys coming behind you who might be even better and that's Jeremiah Smith who is just you know one of those guys that you can kind of pencil in for the 101 next year so I definitely don't want to like overlook the production profile or kind of lack of the elite analytical type stuff because it does you know when you play with these guys as teammates these future NFL studs it matters but I will say if there's one thing that you could say like it's not the best we've ever seen that is it that said early declare draft capital is going to be there he brings a very unique and different skill set than the other two of Mikhail Lemon and Jordan Tyson yeah when you can explain away why he didn't see the raw production of some of the other players that we've seen in the past or just some of the other players from Ohio State when you're playing with Jason I mean you're playing with Marv Ekbuka Julian Fleming was actually a really big wide receiver coming out of high school yeah transferred to Penn State and did nothing why why did that happen we're not going to talk about that so you can explain away a lot of stuff if he's drafted in the top 10 which is kind of where he's being mocked a lot of the time if he's drafted in the top 10 he would have the lowest final season targets per outrun of any top 10 wide receiver drafted over the last decade it's at 23% now there are players in college that if you go back to their profiles you go okay Justin Jefferson his final year at LSU was only targeted on 23% of his routes it did not mean that he couldn't come in he just had a first round pick Jamar Chase on the team and a second round pick in Terrace Marshall Jr. on the team so you know you gotta get the targets to lockjaw when you get a chance but I think what Tate the early story I want to share is just that he does all the right things and a player like that you can look at their college production and just say that's all they are I've kind of moved in the direction of like man what else could he be and I think NFL teams are also looking at it that way he led the nation in passer rating when targeted he led the class in receiving EPA EPA per target by a wide margin and if you look at just his catches like what he did when he caught the ball over the last two years 63 of his 92 receptions were either a first down or a touchdown so like the big plays the money plays were there all throughout the film the Wisconsin game was maybe my favorite one to watch where he was just unbelievable everywhere so my headline is I tried to poke holes into why I shouldn't like this guy for the breakout age and everything else but I think he has the tools to be successful at the next level he does yeah he really does and when you kind of think about the highlights of Carnell Tate you probably if you've watched college football this year if you just are looking back at his highlights from this year you're gonna pop on you know YouTube clip or something you're gonna see a lot of deep targets and a lot of insane body control catches down the field but if you watch him in totality that's not all he does I think the NFL will very very highly value him for that role which is kind of hard to find nowadays like these guys that can really take the top off the defense and earn targets I think his second gear when he gets to the next level is like insanely special his body control is elite he's a very good hands catcher on the sideline multiple times getting two feet inbounds even though you only do one in college like he he looks like an NFL wide receiver and teams will value that that piece that he brings to the puzzle but I also think there's a little bit of an untapped ceiling here with Carnell Tate I think he can do more than just that deep target type stuff and if you watch him he does a really good job I think coming back to the quarterback especially on like scramble drills and stuff like that so the football IQ is there but to me his his special sauce is really that second gear when he gets over the top those 20 plus yard targets he is insanely talented at those and like I said the NFL is always looking for that next guy that can bring that to their team into their offense so I think he's going to provide a ton of value for an NFL team right away in year one I do have just not a concern but like maybe a question mark like if we look back in a year on this class would we really be that surprised if it was like oh you know Carnell Tate had a nice rookie season he wasn't a Jamar Chase type of guy where he caught I don't know 40 to 50 catches for 600 yards and like 6 touchdowns I wouldn't be surprised by that you know I think he's got a guy that maybe have to learn a little bit in the NFL but there is so much to like about Carnell Tate that I don't want to I don't overthink it too much yeah the word that gets thrown around a lot and I think it's an Ohio State thing which their offensive coordinator Wider receiver coach is Brian Hartline. If you know that name, he was in the NFL. He left. Where's he at now? I think he's the head coach at South Florida. That's news to me. I'm going to bet that in case I'm lying. He has been the wide receiver coach and OC in the past because now Arthur Smith is the OC. And the word that gets thrown around a lot about these wide receivers is they're polished. And you've seen the fifth consecutive draft. We're going to have a wide receiver taken in the first round from Ohio State. It's the dudes. It's JSN. It's Olave, Garrett Wilson, all the guys. And when you look at the type of routes that he runs, you talked about the deep ball. So 26% of his routes were go routes. But he also had 25% that were hitch or curl routes, which are kind of like the technical routes that the really good wide receivers who can take the top of the defense can also turn around. So Olave was one of those guys that had at least 20% go route and 25% hitch. Another one is Terry. Two Ohio State wide receivers, which I know I'm connecting the dots here, but I think that's the type of routes. I think the player I would comp him to most, and we're kind of light on giving comps is I think he has the ball skills of T Higgins, but he runs routes and his size is more like a Calvin Ridley, who was also a first round wide receiver. And I say all of that to say, I think Tate, you have it in the notes here too. I think he fits really well as a two in the NFL and people won't want to hear that. But that's like a really NFL player who's going to get a huge second contract. For sure. I have seen some comps thrown around to like a George Pickens type player, which makes a lot of sense when you think about his build and kind of how he wins down the field. And it wasn't until finally this year that we really saw the full potential of George Pickens unlocked that, you know, that's what I was saying. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if it just takes a little bit of time here with Tate, but the talent is there. The draft capital is going to be there. Obviously the pedigree is there. So there's so much to like about Karnal Tate. And before we do move on, I did want to confirm. Brian Hartline, South Florida. Okay. Makes sense. Another comp I see is Brian Thomas Jr. And that has a bad taste in our mouth now. A year ago, we'd been like, oh my gosh, this is another Brian Thomas Jr. I think at the end of the day, if he gets more crossing routes, which they didn't run a ton of Ohio State, I would, I think there's a bigger ceiling that you talked about here. But in my rookie drafts right now, I think he feels like a very safe pick. I would be very happy if I had, a top five pick and I could take Karnal Tate because he's going to get the draft capital that goes along with it. I'm not expecting year one, just like blow the doors off, but the dude can do it all. He's a, he's a really good blocker too. I will say this whole class, the guys are willing to block a lot more than maybe guys we've seen in the past. What do they say? No block, no rock. Yeah. That was the JMO thing. And then JMO switched, man. Now he's, now he's, now he's the guy. Now he's the man. Next one we're going to talk about is Jordan Tyson. We're going in order of where they are in NFL mock draft database in our rookie ranks in the dynasty pass. All three ballers have him at number one. Would you have him at one right now? I think right now without knowing specific draft capital, I mean, we're assuming obviously round one for all these guys. I personally do have Jordan Tyson there. There's concerns, which we'll talk about. But if you, if you look analytically at like, does this, does he fail at anything from an analytics perspective? To me, the answer is no. And when you add in the round one draft capital with that background, you know, the breakout age, the reception share, the dominator rating, the yards between pass attempt, all these things, like he really checks every box. So for me right now, I do have him as one. I will say I have a soft spot in my heart from Kyle Lemon, who we'll talk about. I think he is most likely to step on the field, have a role and produce right away. So if you look for that in your rookie drafts over potential ceiling or something like that, I wouldn't fault anybody. But right now I think Stan, I do have him as my one. Tyson is a red shirt junior because he had a medical red shirt in 2023 with his collarbone injury. I know we'll talk about injury stuff. That's one of the big concerns in a second. 6'2", 200. He's from Allen, Texas, same high school that Kyler Murray went to. And he first arrived at Colorado before Dion was there. And one of the most intriguing things about Tyson is that he has the earliest breakout age of anybody in this class. In fact, the only time I'm going back like a really long time that I have a breakout age of 18.1, meaning like you were that young when you hit this threshold, is like Drake London and then blast from the past Jordan Matthews. Dude, there were some fun years with Jordan Matthews in fantasy before things fell apart. It's just at the end of the day, it's rare for someone to step onto campus and be the number one wide receiver. Now the counting stats aren't crazy for him, but I actually think his best game, maybe his best game in his entire career, was as a freshman on Colorado against Arizona State, which is just crazy to think. I mean, he was killing it in the punt game too. But his story is interesting because Dion arrives, he breaks his collarbone, and he's basically told with the new regime in Colorado, like, hey, I don't know if you have a spot here. And that is the story for a lot of that Colorado team. Like it's either like you're totally in Travis Hunter style, or you're like totally out, which is fine. Everybody has different things going on. NIL money started to get thrown around. He transfers to Arizona State. And then recently, I don't know if you saw these headlines, when they played each other again, Tyson after the game sought out Sanders and basically said, dude, I was sorry. And Sanders said that meant a lot to him. And he's kind of vouched for him publicly like this dude is legit person off the field. No, I hadn't seen that. But that's good to know. I mean, that we always get so stuck in the weeds on like the put this guy in a spreadsheet and do all the fun stuff. But it's like these are human beings and then that matters. Yep. His big brother. Another fun fact is in the NBA six, six was a first round pick for the Cavs. So athletic family. And then my other favorite fact that I found is that his wide receiver coach at Arizona State is Heinz Ward, the, you know, most people would say he's the best blocking wide receiver of all time him or Larry Fitzgerald. And you can see how he progressed from Colorado to Arizona State in the blocking department. But before we get into the numbers, like talk about his injury history, because that's like the big red flag that a lot of people have. Yeah, you'll notice that. I don't want to say it's split because these guys are all kind of top tier regardless of what game you play, whether it's fantasy or if you're a NFL fan or an NFL draft analyst, but you'll see a lot of fantasy folks very high on Jordan Tyson for the analytical type stuff. And then you'll see NFL draft scouts mentioned, hey, NFL teams are going to flag Jordan Tyson because of his injury. Nerds like you. I mean, can you imagine caring about that? Couldn't be me. And you'll see him lower on teams boards because of that. So yeah, you mentioned, uh, the fracture collarbone collarbone. That was one piece of the puzzle, but he also had a multiligament ACL injury. Uh, when he first started at Colorado, that was an ACL, PCL and MCL. And then this past season dealt with hamstring issues. There was a report. He wasn't likely to do everything at the combine this week because of just making sure his hamstring was right. I got actually asked about that on Twitter a bunch. Like, Hey, are you worried about that? Not necessarily. Uh, you know, these guys want to make the best decisions possible for them. And if they are 80%, 90%, of where they could be, they don't want to put out a bad 40 time or something like that. So I'm not super surprised by that with Tyson, but that's the injury history that people keep talking about. Uh, the ACL, the collarbone, and then the hamstring issues that plagued him this past year. What's interesting about Tyson is when you turn on the tape, which I mean, imagine not turning on the tape. Couldn't be me. He faces arguably like the toughest coverage of anybody, like 40% of his routes were press coverage. And as you're watching, it's like, these aren't free. Elyse is the way that a lot of these guys, either from the slot or somewhere else, like these are really, really tough matchups that he has. And the team's understood at Arizona state that like, this was the dude there. His production profile is really strong across the board. And it's going to look really good. The only area that's kind of low was against zone coverage this past year, only 2.18 yards per outrun in the previous year, 2.34. It's kind of low compared to most prospects. I'm kind of growing and going back and forth, figuring out what zone coverage it's like. There are certain, there are certain prospects that didn't excel because their quarterback did not excel against zone coverage. So it's like, I can't always hold that against them. They dealt with injuries this past year with Sam Levitt going down. So at the end of the day, he wins in so many different ways. He's the, I think he's the best route runner in this class and create separation where you go. That's what wins in the NFL. That's what makes sense. That's why this guy's going to profile as a wide receiver one. Yeah. And I mentioned that when we were doing our little, uh, wing segment at the start, you know, what wins today in the league is these guys that can move inside, outside and have that versatility. That's what Jordan Tyson can do. Uh, 34% slot rate the last two seasons at ASU spent about two thirds of his time on the perimeter. So you can move them inside in the slot. You can play them on the outside as a true perimeter guy. You can move them all around the formation and the way he wins, I think kind of fits the NFL today in some ways, you know, like gone are the days of, Hey, you're bigger than everybody else. You're a huge receiver. Good on the field and bully guys. Like, there's still some of those guys left, but the way that players win now is this finesse type stuff where you can kind of move all around the formation, win with route running. That's what Jordan Tyson does. So there's a lot to like about Jordan Tyson. When you watch him play, um, I would say he's more like slippery and kind of a finesse wide receiver than a physical type guy, which I just mentioned. And you mentioned, uh, it's interesting that I say that because the fact about him being pressed a bunch at the line of scrimmage, I didn't realize it was so high. I just wonder how that will translate to the NFL, but analytically, it's off the charts you had the first round draft capital you add the talent i think that he has some really insane wow moments on tape where diving catches you know acrobatic type stuff in the air like he is a very very good athlete who is a very good wide receiver um like i said the only question really i think a lot of people have on him is do nfl teams dock him from an injury perspective does he slip to 18 19 20 range as opposed to hey this would be a top 10 pick if it wasn't for the injury stuff we'll have to sort that out over the next you know two or three months but i do think there's so much to like about jordan tyson like i mentioned as things stand right now he is my one in this class for fantasy one of the games i would encourage people to watch the texas tech game you saw 16 targets but there's at least three times where he left the game injured including you playing through a hamstring injury and then at the end of the game like when he when he has the injury and even the announcers are like oh man tyson's down again he comes back has this huge fourth down conversion and then he draws a pi in the end zone and they end up winning the game it's like it's crazy stuff uh so i don't think he's gonna if he's gonna run or not run we were just talking about that i think he'd probably run in the four or five range and i don't care i just don't care yeah it doesn't matter these are the guys that i'm always gravitated towards like there's so many times where teams and people will mention like hey you know i know he didn't earn a ton of targets in college but like when he gets the pros he'll do this it's like that hasn't worked ever that doesn't work but the guys that can earn targets and i would say earn targets like at an elite level that we care about in fantasy jordan tyson can do that he averaged in his career over 30 percent targets throughout run this past year it was over 32 percent so if there's a guy whose profile says hey i can be an alpha you can build your offense around me i think that's jordan tyson yeah if you're looking at like comps based on the routes that he ran it's a lot of jsn it's like a finesse type route runner than uh pure like size and then if we're giving some comps of like who gets the draft capital like this who has the skills and the size the highest end comp i can give is like you could be a cd and that's i don't really want to throw that out a lot i think i liked saying devonta smith but the more filled out version in terms of like just not paper thin yeah which is a compliment too because we both like him so i think we're going to be high on tyson for fantasy he just he's going to work he's he's going to get so many targets like right off the bat if it's in the right situation don't go to the jets man i was just thinking about it like there's like this pit in my stomach that like one of these three guys is going to go to the jets because they're they're in prime territory like right in the middle of the first round you know the third wide receiver on this in this class will be there remember zoom out we draft for talent yes oh i'm still taking him i don't i don't care we're going to be in the middle of the first round we're going to be in the middle of the first round where he lands but that would hurt for a short term at least all right let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about bets his favorite guy mckay lemon we are back and we're talking about mckay lemon jr wide receiver out of usc 511 195 he is from los alamitos california or as the locals would say los al he was a griffin and what's really interesting about him is that he's a griffin and he's a griffin and he's a griffin really fun doing a deep dive on that high school is like so many famous actors and singers have come from that high school like pedro pascal the actor like that's what the school's actually more known for um he originally committed to oklahoma and then when lincoln riley went to usc he went there it was a slow build and yet this past season like the the big semi-yellow flag i will say is a little bit to get going and yet he just won the bulletin a cuff award and his tape is really fun to watch really really really fun player so i'm gonna i'm gonna hand it over to you yeah i love mckay lemon um right now i have tyson at the top but there might be a point in this offseason where i feel like lemon might be the preferred guy just depending on just feeling spunky just depending on the day you know what kind of mood i'm in when i wake up but that's why i was saying these top three are in their own tier and i think they're all they're all awesome targets in the early part of your rookie drafts you shouldn't feel disappointed about them but i think they're if you get the third of these this group they're all awesome mckay lemon to me and this is the part you were mentioning earlier just a different flavor he's not the same player as jordan tyson he's not the same player as carnell tate but the way he wins i think is very conducive to today's nfl and i think is going to work it's these guys that can win in the short to intermediate area of the field and when i say that you might think like gadgety type guy that's not the case at all with mckay lemon he also saw a bunch of targets down the field and the knock on him or at least like the mild concern from a how does this translate to the league perspective is that he played a ton in the slot but we've seen that doesn't necessarily mean you're only going to be a slot wide receiver in the nfl and there are routes where he's on the perimeter and wins and there's a lot of fun moments there too um and his yards front run actually popped from the perimeter this past season so i think he can be one of those and it's so annoying because everybody's making the comp with that amon ross style where it's like hey you are a slot guy but if we go to two tight ends and it's a two wide receiver set you're not going to leave the field you can also play on the perimeter i personally think mckay lemon can do that maybe nfl feels differently so if there is one thing that you could kind of say like is that going to happen in the nfl we'll have to wait and find out but the production this year is off the charts and another early declare um and the peripherals are so good one of the only guys in this class that average three plus yards per outrun against both man and zone coverage according to pff so he is looking like an awesome awesome pick uh in this class and one of those guys that i would be super excited to take in the top three or four picks yeah if you're looking for a slot wide receiver on the outset you would see a lot of guys that are going to be in the top three or four picks okay well this is the guy in the class i mean there's other guys omar cooper jr zachariah branch i'm using quotes um if you think of him as a wide receiver and not just like a an athlete and yeah and an extension of the run game antonio williams of clemson those are kind of the guys that were heavy slot guys and the reason why i'm kind of using asterisks there is that amon raw is basically a 50 50 guy right now in terms of where his routes are it's grown from early on that first season when you know he caught bets his eye and bets like hasn't looked back since that little end of season run changed his life he's been 50 50 and we want players that can be versatile so ed buca was one of those guys last year that came in it's like oh if you need a slot guy right away you know he ran 81 of his routes at ohio state this final year to do that he's that guy justin jefferson ran 98 of his routes inside the slot same thing with juju i know we laugh at juju now but he was a really good prospect and had a really good first couple of years and he's a really good prospect and he's a really good first couple of years it's the players that can transition the nfl and become more than a slot wide receiver that have crazy scenes that's cd lamb cd is slot and yet he can do anything on the field so you're saying to me that when you mix in the production profile the way the nfl is structured and just being a dog because dear lord for someone that's only 5 11 when the ball's in the air i feel like he just comes down with it more often than not and then even like after the catch he forced up like that's the combo that gets you hot and heavy for sure and to point to that i think he does have the dog 21 missed tackles forced this past year for a guy that like you said relative to other big body nfl wide receivers as air quotes undersized tells you a lot about the player he's competitive he also a fun story man he played both ways in high school he played offense and defense and when he started in college he played a little bit of corner too so i think that brings out that competitive toughness that you see when you have the ball in his hands so yeah i love mckay lemon a very fun popular i'm copying off your mock type of situation right now is mckay lemon to the jets or excuse me not the jets uh the saints and like picturing what he could be in kellen moore's offense next to chris alabe that gets you hot and heavy so yeah if he lands with a creative playmaker i think in year one it wouldn't be surprising if you look back and we're like oh he was the most productive guy of the top three i slot wide receivers and just defenses are approaching and i feel like the seahawks are the perfect example where there is this move to two eye safety looks across the nfl last couple years and then the seahawks there's been a lot of discussion about this basically said like here's what we're showing you pre-snap oh wait here's after the snap what it's going to look like and it's like the safeties are shifting and all the assignments before the snap and after the snap are completely different slot wide receivers actually had a really bad year across the board like it was the lowest yards per outrun for slot and then it was the lowest yards per outrun for slot wide receivers and it was the lowest yards in the nfl in a long long time and i think things change over time we think of like the slot wide receivers that used to just absolutely kill in the nfl keenan all those type of guys it just ebbs and flows and so i want a player that's versatile and i think lemon can do that so please hear what we're saying this is not a slot only dude where i think the other guys like i think cooper and antonio williams specifically is like slot only that's what i view him as i think lemon is really good in the slot and can also be other stuff and my last little note is his body control is really legit for someone who's not a leaper like he's not going to test out very well in like the vertical why because he's short he's shorter he doesn't jump that high man i'm gonna be honest wow kyle giving his jumping takes here after after the speed debacle you want to be now the jump guy also i did have that down i don't think he has top end speed no i don't think so either but again it's like we know through years of data that he's not going to be the top end speed that doesn't really matter so he's not going to be the guy when people are leaving indie being like dude did you see mckay lemon is 40 like that's not what people are going to talk about it doesn't matter you put on the tape and you watch him play like he's a good refined route runner and that's what wins today not necessarily the speed all right so the comps that show up in terms of routes are Khalil Shakir which we think of as slot only guy Ladd who kind of actually does everything on the field although we think slot only and then obviously Amon Ra shows up at my kind of old school medium comp for him because I can't give anything other than Amon Ra is Golden Tate who actually started out his career as down the field guy moved in the slot later on and then my low end people are gonna think this is a slap in the face is Sterling Shepard who had a long career in the NFL he was just playing this past year are those not kind those not high enough comps I want to try to find one that isn't Amon Ra because it's so easy to copy and paste and you know USC and same style of player but like that that really is like kind of what I think of when I watch him play but we do need to figure out a better high-end comp I've seen some JSN stuff I don't know but I think the Golden Tate one is actually kind of interesting and if you've only been playing fantasy recently like that means nothing to you but like Golden Tate had some years were like he was awesome so I don't want that to be viewed negatively yes yeah of course all right next day we're gonna talk about is Denzel my man Boston I gotta Denzel Washington reference Denzel Boston I need to confess is not usually the flavor that I go after in fantasy because if you don't look at the film if you don't look at anything else you just go okay this is jump ball guy and jump ball guys the NFL don't work out very much I feel like there's a little bit more to him as I've kind of grown and watching his film learning his story I also need to point this out because this is everywhere on the internet and this is Kyle's soapbox moment why researching with AI does not cut it because if you listen here kids this is kids listen up I don't know you and whatever you're doing right now I don't know you and whatever you're doing right now I don't know Denzel Boston is not related to David Boston the former all pro wide receiver who played for the Chargers Cardinals lots of teams his dad is Chris his dad sells insurance man and if you ask AI is Denzel Boston related to David Boston AI will say oh yeah David Boston is his dad this is not true you have the you have the test to prove it or what I'll do it I local county court records are very clear glad you cleared that up for us Kyle because I know everybody was thinking it you're right though man like this is the guy that when I first started diving into all these wide receiver prospects you know you kind of hear like okay he's if there's one guy who's going to be a traditional ex-receiver in this class this is the guy and like when I hear that I'm like okay he probably is more of a down the field type guy wins at the catch point and we know historically like that used to work in 2015 that doesn't necessarily always work right now and while I don't know if while I do think that that is part of his skill set obviously like he's the type of guy you throw it up in the red zone let him go get it because he will win you know it's not a 50 50 ball I think it's more like 60 40 in my opinion when it goes up for him he's that good in the air his hands are insanely strong when he's in contested catch situations but when you hear that you might think okay that's all he does and then therefore boomer bust type player while I still think he does kind of have a boom bust overall profile if you actually watch him play like they get him involved on screen sometimes he was used as a returner in the punk game which that is a large human being to be returning punts and he was effective at that there's some nice moments where you can kind of sit in the zone and then create after the catch so I initially was kind of low on Denzel Boston I was like we've seen this story before probably isn't going to work the more I went back and watched him I kind of had more of an appreciation for his game so if he does get that round one draft capital which a lot of people think he will kind of sneak into maybe like the 22 to like 32 range if he gets that and he does have some nice stuff in his profile from an analytical perspective I'm I'm kind of interested in him you know where he could go in the middle it's like later third of rookie drafts in the first round and I would be totally fine taking a shot there on him I do think he does have a wide range of outcomes but I'm more willing to see the possibility of it working in the NFL than I was maybe a month ago he has a later breakout age of 20.8 so the slow production he's seven catches through his first two years in college which you can also explain away thinking of those Washington teams with Roma Dunzey Jalen McMillan and the great Jalen Polk of course couldn't forget that dude second round pick and now flipping burgers I don't know what he's doing man I think he's on the Saints I think they traded for him while he was on IR I have no clue what that I'm gonna do a deep dive check in on him you know just a little you gotta check in on your friends see how they're doing this year's this year's biggest sleeper Jalen Polk on the Saints you heard everyone's like biggest sleeper everyone's like I did not know he was on the Saints um so he's six four Denzel Boston six four two ten and if you're and if you look at wide receivers that have kind of fit this body type like just being taller six four taller recently straight London 2022 Quentin Johnson 2023 Marv in 2024 and last year was Teterow McMillan so those have been the taller wide receivers where we've talked about how the NFL has kind of gone away from this traditional mold where Denzel Boston in 2004 oh baby number yeah easily easily 14 of his 18 career touchdowns have come against man coverage and so if I did have to give a red flag for me is that against zone coverage it's not been great in his career 1.81 yards per outrun only targeted on 21 of his routes I also watched a lot of Washington film and DeMond Williams is not the best thrower of the football at all that's a nice way to say it yeah I was trying to be nice I just feel like a lot of the zone coverage stuff he didn't see it and didn't trust himself and so a lot of the balls are late so you know you could do that but a lot of the routes that we're seeing here from Boston are deep 40 of his routes were either posts goes or crossers and that makes him that makes a very difficult evaluation the NFL level there are players that came in like that Nico Collins and then they refined their routes and they were used more in the intermediate and short area stuff and it worked but if you're not you're going to end up just being a deep ball guy and that's scary to me but you I will agree like there were more screens than I thought in his in his game considering he was 6'4 yeah for sure and I do think like if you're kind of leaning one way or the other like how does he profile in the NFL I do think it's the mold of the traditional x receiver you use him down the field you throw a 50 50 ball and like that obviously invites a wide range of outcomes where it's like he catches all of them and he's great for fantasy or he's missing them and obviously he's a bust but I do think there's some untapped potential and and one of those guys that just because he did this in college means he will do this in the pros I think is misleading on Boston because like I said when you watch him and they do more with him and use them in creative ways that I think there's a potential that he could do that in the NFL I just don't know how likely it is and it's going to take the right scheme I think so that's why I was saying like I obviously prefer the other guys way way above Denzel Boston but like initially I was like this isn't going to work and then I watched more of them and I was like this could work in the right scheme so I'm leaving the light on for Boston let's see where he goes the NFL draft and let's see kind of what in what information we get over the next two three months yeah a couple final notes here willing blocker I wouldn't call him a fluid route runner not a burner but his hands look reliable high pointing the ball is probably his best attribute and off the line of scrimmage I feel like there's a couple times which is like man this just took a while to get up to speed yeah I see that too so but it's one of those players where if I'm lower on the analytical side I don't love his own coverage you know I look at that stuff my natural inclination be like I just don't like this he lands in the right situation with the right team it's like oh I like you as a wide receiver too for a team in the NFL I saw the other day the bills in one of the mocks and I was like gosh do I trust this guy to be the wide receiver one for the bills I don't I don't see him like soaking up 130 targets no I don't either I did also really think it was funny I'm obviously not sliding any mock drafters out there but I know Daniel Jeremiah also in his most recent one had Malachi Fields mocked to the bills and I thought it was just perfection it was like the same they just did this with Keon Coleman right where it's like right can't really separate more of a big body type guy I don't know how he works in the NFL and like they just did that with him and it didn't work so I just thought that was funny but um yeah that it does like I said it's gonna take the right scheme in the right system I don't know if I see him ever being a one quite honestly but we say that about players all the time they change so who knows all right last name and I need you to get out your fingers people I need you to pinch those fingers yes yes yes this these this is for people that are in the finer things club okay people that appreciate good art you know deep things it's Casey Concepcion of Texas A&M Kevin if you just want to call him Kev um 511 190 this is a player that Bets and I have just really enjoyed throughout the process he's from Charlotte he was a three-star recruit Chambers High School Cougars the same high school college teammates with James Pierce Jr. former Atlanta Falcons player and I use former lightly because I don't know where he's gonna land with all his legal trouble but Concepcion started NC State transferred to Texas A&M interesting story man right at the get-go as a freshman was used so much um also his story is really really great uh he speaks with a stutter his dad speaks with the stutter and he's talked about how he's had to overcome public speaking fears um anyway I just loved his story loved learning more about it he was an all-american this past year he was also the paul hornug award winner as college football's most versatile player and when you're projecting him from what he did in college the pros there's like like he's the playmaker one when we talked about that or the luther burden the malik neighbors yeah that award that he won is just so fitting for how he plays because he can literally do a little bit of everything and it's it's actually super fun so if you want to have fun in your rookie drafts and you want to have so much fun when you pronounce the pick to your league mates casey concepcion you know a little little accent there at the end um this is your guy i will say his production profile is actually pretty off the charts like early uh breakout age and there's so much signal too like sometimes we knock guys we're like oh they used him out of the backfield as a running back type stuff you know is it fluky is it is this is that it's also a signal of hey the coaches value your talent enough to say we got to just figure out how to get this guy the ball this guy's 70 career rushing attempts that is insane for a wide receiver and he's also electric and insanely dynamic in the return game but you know we don't always like to necessarily bank on that for fantasy but like that again is a signal hey let's get the ball in his hands and let him make plays so when i watch him like the first thing i just think of in my mind it's just playmaker like that's what i see when he has the ball electric after the catch and i think a guy that probably has some learning to do as like an nfl receiver but the tools are there and there's a number of ways to do that so i think it's a signal of hey let's get the ball in his hands enough in the analytical profile that says this certainly could work especially if he does sneak into the back of the first round which some people are at least projecting right now he kind of seems like a fringe first second round pick but the thing that i loved when i watched him and when i looked at some of his usage and the underlying type stuff his slot rate changed year over year as he grew as a college player so in year one 93 at nc state it's like okay this is definitely what you're doing year two was 82 it's like okay you're you're pretty much still just a wide receiver in the big boy routes and and big boy stuff 34 in the slots where he did transition into this kind of inside out versatility guy so again as we talk about what wins in today's nfl can you move around the formation can you get the ball in your hands a bunch of different ways can you win on the outside those are all things i think that casey concepcion can do and so yeah i do think this guy's one of those players that's very very versatile kind of a funky evaluation and kind of a funky fit in the nfl but there's a lot that i think could work here for fantasy all right i'm down with the funky fresh you're trying to figure out from film in our mother's basements what nfl teams might do and how this person like there's so many different areas to this that we can't figure out um a fun stat when i was kind of comparing him and like man has anybody ever had this type of production profile here are the only wide receivers since 2000 to be drafted with 2200 career receiving yards and over 400 rushing yards khalil shakir wandale robinson casey concepcion you might laugh at that and go those are funny players you're trying to figure out from film in our mother's basements what nfl teams might do and khalil shakir got a second contract wandale's probably going to get a solid contract in the nfl and wandale just saw over 140 targets in back-to-back seasons so gadgety yes i think concepcion is more than those players though i agree and the wandale comp you know in fantasy we have a negative connotation it's like okay yeah you're getting these like three yard eight outs who cares and like i could see the same path for casey concepcion where it's like initially he kind of needs that stuff and then he kind of learns nfl position and he grows and he can actually do all the other things and he's going to be a good player and he's going to be a good all the things wanda robinson saw a bunch of targets down the field this year what if i told you he had more 20 plus area receptions than jameson williams this year i would believe that because for the first uh 10 weeks or whatever it was john morton said we're not doing that um come on john uh but that but like i think that comp actually makes a lot of sense as far as how his nfl career could go and you might think oh that that stinks but like if you have the 107 or whatever and he kind of falls to you there it's like these guys aren't all going to turn into those picks could this guy turn into a wide receiver two for fantasy a wide receiver three i think so and again we all want the jamar chase right but like these guys that are going to stick around the league and kind of have the shelf life that we care about in dynasty the worst thing you can do is take your rookie pick light it on fire and all of a sudden now you're kind of stuck in the same position you were a year ago i don't think that's the case with this type of player so i'm definitely higher i think than market on him i think he is certainly worthy of being considered above denzel boston for me personally and i know there's a lot of people out there that are some people out there who kind of have him like right up there we're like just behind the big three and for me that's a little spicy but i i kind of understand it so i think he's a he's a player that it might take a funky kind of route to get to where he's ultimately going to go in the nfl but like i said i do see the path where this will work for fantasy all right a couple of notes i need to give at least one semi-negative that will be brought up it's about his hands and his drops and the drops yeah yeah he had 19 total drops in three years and then my note next to that says i don't care because because drop rate is by far if you if you stack up every single statistic in the nfl it is the least predictive uh in terms of future points per game in fantasy it's the least it doesn't matter it actually has a negative correlation year over year so the player who led the league in drops this year do you know who that was oh this would be a great question that i should have tried to figure out beforehand no i have no idea i'll give you a hint he's your favorite player in the nfl i'm gonna yeah that guy sucks yeah that's what i'm saying like it's cd had problems with drops it year over year it's not a very stable statistic and at the end of the day if you're you know being paid and you are the one or two on a team the drops are going to pile up because when you end up seeing 160 targets yeah the math says you're going to end up dropping someone you're not going to catch everything so that's one of the issues people bring up the twitchiness the note that i have is just explosivo he's just he's there so the comps in terms of his routes are khalil shakir marquise hollywood brown which is another wild comp the way that he's been used chimray dk the way that he was used this year all over the map and then another one if you're just looking at the type of routes he ran a lot of justin jefferson stuff too so i think that it could go all over the place he's a player that i'm higher on as well my favorite actual comp when i combine draft capital size skill everything else is emmanuel sanders which maybe people don't know about but he's a player that i'm higher on as well listening now don't realize like emmanuel sanders was a really really good wide receiver and a wide receiver one in fantasy for multiple years so um the low end though is like is he cadarious tony and i hope not please no i i still think cadarious tony would have worked if he wasn't always injured and had some other things going on um one of my favorite things about him though when i was watching him is like if you just envision like the right scheme in the right system like get this guy moving pre-snap players are not gonna be able to follow him on crossers and slants and stuff like that where he already has like a leg up in terms of speed he's just so sub-explosive so i do think if there is one guy leaving indie where it's like man he's turning heads like look at his athletic testing obviously we talked about kenyan sadiq and some other guys last week on the running backs i do think casey concepcion is going to be one of those guys after the combine if he does everything we'll see he's such a fun guy to root for anyway he's probably going to be somebody that we keep talking about over and over again actually all five of those wide receivers i don't know if you could tell people i liked talking about them all the time like i i really enjoyed the prospects i enjoyed that part of the process and the best part is that's not the end of it because next couple episodes we will be talking about some of the other wide receivers the jeremy bernard who did get targets at washington way back in the day ahead of denzel boston that's an interesting little little thing you throw in there chris bell i know he's dealing he dealt with injury stuff but like he's an interesting name malachi fields all over the map of what people think so elijah sarat your jmu boy both yeah you guys cooper they're super interesting names so i this class i would say it offers a lot of quality and quantity and we're going to get to go through all of them next week though here's a fun tease we will be doing our first rookie mock draft on the podcast oh baby so right after the combine right after the combine we're going to be makalaka ding dong and it's going to be uh it's going to be a good time and 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