2024 Barstool Pick Em Week 10

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Down in the order, down in the order, like a glaciers. Yes. Yeah. Double lead, double lead off. Exactly. Yeah. I texted Steve and I was like, Hey, Dave's out this week. Can you, can you come on? I was like, Hey, Dave's out this week. Pick'em. It'd be really fun. And he's like, absolutely. He's like, it's even better because Bosco has been asking me to come on all this stuff. And I've just not, I haven't booked every it's I'm telling you right now, you're gonna be booked again for Bosco in one or healthy debate either way. Uh, March, you always do conference championship week. You always, he always does. I have him by the balls. It's the best. It's my best interview. Him and Rothstein. No, just, just Steve. Exactly. You don't like him either. That's your show. That's your show. I can't make it on Dan. Yeah, you can. All right. So Steve, how are the picks going bad? I'm in the leaderboard. Really? Yeah. Looking at a trophy potentially. I can't, but college basketball starts in a week. So that's when we go like this. So I'm 46.9%. Bosco's 52.2%. Dave is 46.7%. So Bosco's he's got the Pat Hill in his sights right now. First ever. He's never won a Pat Hill. Uh, he is set. Uh, Ebo is seven and two in mortals. Then Bosco is four and four and one in mortals. The second Ebo kind of has mortals locked up. He has Bob Diaco locked up. Steve, I can't win a weekday game to save my life. This conference USA. If I like looked at it, it's like the old drill tweet. Like, can someone help me with my budget? It's like rent a thousand dollars, food, a thousand dollars, uh, clothes like a thousand dollars conference USA losses a hundred thousand dollars. Why am I poor? That's what's happening with the conference USA and me. So I don't know. Yeah. Have you been betting? Conference USA? Cause this is a, a long time thing between us where you tell me I don't have to bet every game and I say to you, yes, you do. Yeah. That you and Dave jumped on me a while ago about that one. Um, I forgot what we were. It was, I know exactly. It was a big event. It was a big event. No, we were at Superbowl or no, no, no. It was at the tornado room in Madison. You came out to dinner with us. That's right. The, the tornado room, which is a great place has laughed out of that room. Yeah. Has not great wifi. So I kept on standing up to go get scores for me and Dave and like stand in the alley behind it. And, and Steve just turned to me and Dave. He's like, you guys know, you don't have to bet every game. And we just both at the same time looked at me like, yes, you do. What are you talking to say when those guys are paying for the meal too? I felt bad. Yeah. Really bad. But have you been betting any of the weekday? I've dabbled a little bit. Ben are like, you know, three games last night looked Sam Houston state fell a little fishy. Uh, did you see the ending of that game? Yeah. By the way. Yeah. That, that would have been cataclysmic, uh, for the other team backers, uh, had Kennesaw against Liberty, uh, last week, but no, not, I'm not diving in every single game. Um, so I'm guessing this comes out later, but, um, coach rich rod is very interesting this week. Oh, is he playing tonight? Liberty, I believe Liberty is they're playing Liberty tonight. Ooh. Okay. Put it on my card. There you go. It's easy as that. I'm back. I'm back. Uh, okay. Let's before we do the games this week, I want to talk. You have some big picture stuff. So let's start with you. You got big picture stuff, throw it at us and we'll, uh, we'll, we'll chop it up on some college football. All right. Uh, are you guys, where were you before the announcement at 12? And now where are you? Has it changed? No, I love it. Excitement level is beyond because I think you've got games now, like Alabama LSU already was a big game. That's a knockout game this week. Yeah. We didn't think it was going to be a knockout with the both have two losses, but that's a knockout game. Um, Notre Dame is playing by the skin of their balls, even though being a top 10 team, like you got a lot of these teams, these games mean more, these regular season games mean more and the playoff is going to be that much better. Yeah. I also, I'm a big proponent. I'm a big, like, when is the game on? They nailed the schedule this year. Nailed it. What do you mean? You get a weekend before Christmas, you get a new year's Eve into the new year's day. And then you get Thursday, Friday into wildcard weekends, championship game on Luther King. They nailed the schedule. Uh, Steve, I believe my schedule is my first week. And off is the weekend after the super bowl. Yeah. So yeah, you're everywhere. You're everywhere. Uh, Steve, it's football season. You don't get a day off. No days off. No days off. I, I accidentally landed on the correct take. And I mean that by, I was always a proponent of the 12 team playoff. I never wavered from that. I said more games, more fun, everything. Uh, I think I accidentally landed on the correct take because with the transfer portal and NIL, the parody in college football is a lot better. It's flattened a little bit where teams can, you know, you have a Vanderbilt beating in Alabama. You have a bunch of teams in that group of, you know, maybe three to 10 that are all pretty good and you don't know what's going to happen. So if it, if it had been a 12 team playoff pre NIL, pre transfer portal, we're talking like, you know, five, 10 years ago, I think I would have been wrong because that would have been the days of there's Alabama, there's Georgia, there's Ohio state and no one else. Can win. I think there are like six or seven teams now that can win. And I think there's going to be very competitive college football, uh, playoff games. So I accidentally got on the right side of history, being a proponent of the 12 team playoff, not realizing that it was actually the NIL in the port, in the portal that has made college football more fun and exciting this year. Okay. What do you think? Yeah. I like, I mean, there's over 20 teams that can make it guys like that. You know, it's, I think coach Saban said at the beginning there, hope, you know, you, you don't try and, you know, build your team on hope, but your fan base wants hope. And I think the way it went last, you know, the last decade with, with the sec dominance, a lot of teams started out with not hope and now they have it. So the interest level is crazy. I, I look at all the people that said regular season was going to be taken away from that hasn't happened yet. Now it's still could, it could. And, you know, even looking at conference, championship games, but there's still going to be plenty, plenty to play for. So, um, I got some questions for you guys as far as team one, one follow-up, one follow-up on that. I never understood the regular season will be meaningless crowd in that. I get it. There was, you know, in the olden days, if you lose a game, it's your season's over. It's devastating. But if you are someone who watches Oregon versus Ohio state or Texas A&M versus LSU, and you're watching, these exciting games, these great games, maybe not Texas A&M LSU because it got away from them in the second half, but exciting. great college football games big time atmospheres and you're sitting to yourself being like well this doesn't matter you're a loser like i there wasn't any second of the oregon ohio state game where i was like oh well this doesn't matter because they're just going to play again in the big it didn't it was a great football game it was a perfect college like that game was exactly what i close my eyes and envision when i think of college football also nothing's a guarantee like ohio state could lose to state penn this week and they're not in that that rematch that you thought was locked up yeah not locked up it's a great point it's a great point yeah it's i mean you got indiana waiting in the wings there um yeah i know ohio state's going to rico's favorite place this week rico what's the what's the last biggest have you ever been to a big college football game or like like monmouth fairfield doesn't count no i've been to i went to a bachelor party at ann arbor uh been to some notre dame i'm talking about like a big no no no sec no no we got to get you to i know i haven't been to you guys out the ohio state arts and uh game at like yeah it had been a while since i was there i played there it's like these ohio state people were coming in trying to say it was gonna be 60 40 in the stadium like you're out of your mind this isn't no offense purdue like you can't just ransack a stadium i know you have the biggest fan base but uh it was awesome i do think that helps them as we look okay quick break to talk about our friends at game time football season is here we can't wait to get out to some games this fall with the help of game time the official ticketing partner barstool sports rico can you pull up ohio state penn state right now yes you 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notre dame i think hmm this is gonna be tough well indiana with work indiana with work uh that that i should throw that out there he he was playing out of his mind i don't know i i think indiana like the you talk about belief and hope that team feels like they're just riding a wave right now that they have the confidence that is uh just out of this world and it can do that confidence can do things for you in defense if i if you had to if you said pick a unit of those two teams it's notre dame's defense notre dame's defense is is is awesome lights out they got pros everywhere i don't know if i trust riley leonard in uh big time throwing situations i think they've they've been in some games recently especially the navy game where where navy was turning the ball over a lot the purdue game where they could just run the ball down your throat what happens when notre dame gets in a game where they can't run the ball down your throat and now you're in a third and long and riley leonard has to make the right decision the right pass don't feel as confident about that feel more confident in curtis work making that okay rico alabama or miami hold on is it on wait are you going to tell me what your thought was good test yeah you're good no you guys are on okay no but i want to hear what you say after okay okay i i agree with you being there with indiana it's it's real yeah and i'm dying like we were there last week and i'm like anytime i hear a quarterback with thumb surgery you're out like months so what i'm thinking is maybe like he got his nail ripped off or something like that's why like i watch go back watch the tape he can't throw the ball like he's slingshotting the football and then the hail mary before the end of the first half he lines up and he throws it like 30 35 yards yeah so they said he started throwing last week uh they're they're they're so efficient with him their skill guys are way better than you think yep the problem is even with losing morrison at corner notre dame's defense is one of my favorite units in in the country like we've gone back and forth on the show and i've said that since i watched him in person at a&m so i would tend to agree with you right now although they are in a very very tricky spot this week is rico's mic working i think it is now yeah i like that answer i yeah no i i will i will stick with like indiana better team notre dame their defense their defense can keep them in any game aside from a&m notre dame's wins are not that impressive well indiana hasn't really you can't say indiana's no indiana hasn't played a murder's row either but i don't want that no no the michigan state game this is going to be a very good game i think it's going to be a very good game i think it's going to be a very interesting spot for them at east lansing i i think michigan state is one of those teams that that teams can overlook and they've they've had a little bit of spark here and there i had lost got to knows about that don't overlook sparty what was that for what year i'm just what year just throw a year out there the year that we lost on a hail mary and then and then beat him in the big 10 championship game okay it's like a rolodex i mean yeah well there is the year that you remember the uh fuck what was it was it oh five when wisconsin started undefeated and then they we had fourth and goal i think we're down 14-7 to michigan state in east lansing and we didn't run the ball with matt bernstein and we should have and we got stuffed and then we lost like 49-14 and then lost like every game after that so yeah dan no young dan no gray hair that was bad that was a bad one that one haunts me i think for your question alabama miami i hate to say it i think i'm going alabama just because of miami's conference and how weak that is they're going to get a spot like they're going to be there with clemson potentially at the end but what's miami hanging its hat on florida i think alabama is a little bit better and i don't love alabama's defense but i think alabama is a little bit better of a team alabama's defense is getting better and better man yeah they they really are and you know milrose ultimate wild card i've heard and he is watching him in person like being there for the first half of that georgia game it's like why don't they do this all the time and then the second half they didn't do it and then they did it again and then they did it again and then they did it again and then they didn't do it uh you agree with that dan i i probably agree with that uh miami to me i think it's very weird miami obviously cam ward in the heisman conversation he's electric he can get them out of a lot of bad spots which they've been in some bad spots uh i think it's it's the acc is fascinating because clemson almost like that it was almost perfect they lost week one because everyone got off the scent and they've just been handling business ever since and i i think not beating anyone yeah they haven't beaten anyone but they also i give credit to teams when they when they blow out other teams uh i think clemson might they know what the number is every week yeah i think clemson's better than miami okay last one both of you tennessee or clemson i'll go clemson i say clemson as well i love tennessee i go tennessee you like you like i mean their defensive line is great offense though i don't know if i i've seen it with nico it it's bad when it when it's bad it's really really bad and um uh if you're in a big time game i think i would take club nick over nico right now i mean i don't think that's a hot take uh oh you you think you think that's a hot take i'm in i'm in the tank for nico i still i go back and look what's this eighth start oh great like i like i think it's just gonna keep going up and when you go back like being there for the oklahoma game you know they throw that you know i don't want to get too between the weeds but they throw that you know the odd front the three-man front where they played a three three and have everybody back in but you got to have good guys oklahoma had that then you see arkansas kind of mirror that then you see florida kind of mirror that uh it's been a process for him where he's you know getting all you know he's he's he's avoiding all these shots and they've still been able to run the ball their defense is very very good uh and i go back to that bama game like if you told me tennessee was going to score 24 points i would have said bama wins that game and they did it and it was because of of tennessee's defense so i think they're a wild card here um obviously they're obviously a monster matchup going down to athens in a couple weeks but uh i i think they're they're still gonna be they're gonna be a tough out yeah i i do love their defense i just and i i'm not selling on nico long term i'm just talking this year if you put him in a big time game i i i have my concerns because i've seen it now and it's it's you know he puts up 100 you know points against kent state but then he looks like he's never seen a defense when he plays uh arkansas so i'm a little i i'm a little skittish on him whereas klubnik has he's been in some big games obviously the the first week wasn't wasn't great at all it was actually horrendous but yeah i think clemson comes is a little bit they're kind of laying in the weeds they don't have any big games do they clemson they go to pit and what all right what are your thoughts on no they got south they gotta play south oh yeah that's right last week this season that's gonna be a tough one uh do you can you give a question to hank um yeah hank yes what's your favorite college football game this year this year yeah there's a lot to pick from i liked what was just wondering when hank taps out and just goes all in on celtics that's all oh it's already happened yeah it's already happened yeah it happened before so it's got to be from week seven prior no but i don't even know but that's golf season so there might have only been a window what was the illinois game where they came back and it went into purdue illinois purdue is my favorite that's a good answer that's enjoyed that yeah i got a question for steve okay i didn't know hank was here i'm sorry i thought he in a meeting like a suits meeting you said 20 teams can make the playoff how many teams can win it oh good question Bosco wow good question Dan I thought we were ganging up on him yeah but he just hit us with a good question I'm gonna look right now too um well let's go down it yeah Oregon Oregon yes Georgia yes Penn State's a yes to me yeah they're yes to me as well Ohio State yes week Miami's Texas is a yes Tennessee's a yes for me yes not for you not for me I don't think Notre Dame is no BYU's not Texas A&M's a yes for me I'll wait a week on them okay yeah because this is a tough one I think Clemson's a yes Clemson I don't know I'm not there with Clemson if they got to play Georgia again that goes back to our feelings on Tennessee and Clemson right there yeah Alabama Indiana Boise Indiana I gotta see it I gotta see what it looks like against Ohio State if they keep it if they if they give Ohio State a run I think Indiana can can yes I'll be I'll be fully I think you imagine I think Indiana is very very good I just got to see it against one really elite team because they have not played it's no offense Indiana they've had an incredible season I think they're very good they have not played an elite team yet okay here's one for you LSU I don't think so that was bad that second half Nussmeyer I've never seen him like that where he was he looked like he was gonna cry he looked like he was gonna cry when he was playing Texas A&M last week because I think they could win it I don't know if they're gonna make the playoff yeah they got to beat Alabama you know I'd put him in the could win it depending on the draw yeah they could win it depending on the draw and then what about what about anyone from the big 12 well that's the other thing you said too like no what he talked about the like I I I got Colorado winning that so okay so uh I'm all in the big 12 might not be the most compelling conference and they're not they're probably not gonna win a championship any of those teams but the big 12 is a true race here yeah oh yeah you got some big games coming down with the big 12 oh yeah Reese nailed it at the beginning of the season he said it's not the deepest conference it's the widest yes where you just have so many options and we're gonna see that play down uh the ACC too like this idea the three teams finishing unbeaten and then it's gonna go to conference uh opponents win percentage I know that's terrible it's all horrible like right now somebody did the thing Clemson's is the highest at like 46 percent and then Miami's 42 and then uh SM uses like 36 yeah like it's bad the the I'd say oh so where we at like 10 or 11 that was like that was like eight or nine it was more like eight or nine okay the uh the big 10 has the same thing where I believe if if Penn State beats Ohio State or no Ohio State beats Penn State and Indiana beats Ohio State I can't remember the second spot yeah I can't remember what how it works out or if like Oregon catches a loss they would be they would be in trouble because their strength of schedule is not the best crazy in conference it's basically if you played Purdue you're you're you're screwed because they they've been so bad uh all right let's take a break from the games to get to our friends at factor sweater weather pairs perfectly with savory fall foods but with your busy schedule sometimes it's hard to eat the way you'd like that's where factor comes in the chefs do the shopping and chopping to bring you fresh never frozen fully cooked meals right to your doorstep all you have to do is heat and eat all their meals are dietician approved so you know you're getting the nutrition you need along with fall flavors you crave when it comes to 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the conference did not bet him to make the playoff because they already have two losses and you know they got a better chance of winning the conference um in my opinion i look at what chador has done it stuck out to me the first couple games his arm strength is so improved you know everybody talks about caleb williams playing amongst chaos last year chador's done it for i think he's done it better uh because he stays on track his receivers are great i understand what travis has done uh this week i thought i saw it announced he's the first guy ever yeah to win conference player of the week on offense and defense in the same season uh but i i am wary i think the majority is with you dan okay i believe people um i'm not a fan of of how many people and who vote on the award that's another thing i think you got to factor in yeah where the freshness of a travis hunter story uh is on your side so yeah i think you got a winner i don't know he's got still got to play he's still got to play uh but he uh he's doing something no one's ever done before that's my whole point that was why i bet on him because it was like if he plays the whole season we will walk away from this season and i know genti has been incredible and i know cam ward is is lingering and so is dylan gabriel but he's the o'shanti of college football yeah he's the o'shanti of college football he's he what he's doing i don't know if we'll ever see it again like he is a top five wide receiver top five cornerback yeah the storylines are there for you the reason i bet chador too is they're going to be favored in every this was going back before the cincinnati game or even the one before that that they rolled yeah ucf they're going to be favored in every single game and i believe he's going to put up monster numbers and it's um it's it's going to be really interesting yeah to see like i i'm i i bet chador because i see them winning that and i see other teams falling off and them getting in the big 12 title game the problem with hunter is like the wins and losses matter and the like stat lines matter like does he have to get to a certain amount of touchdowns does he have to play in a certain amount of snaps like i feel like he's already beaten all that and he's way ahead of the curve on other guys as far as that goes so i'm not sure if wins and losses play into travis hunter and obviously they're going to take votes away from each other yeah right here you and i yeah disagree but i think you're going to win the uh my calculation on taking travis hunter before the season was i thought if colorado could get to seven or eight wins i think that would be enough and we saw the precedent last year with jayden daniels where that wasn't a playoff team what was lsu last year eight and three uh and nine and three so it it does feel like it's shifting a little where it's like not just oh you need the best team quarterback you know which i actually like i hate how they do it in in the nfl i think it's stupid that it's basically a one seed quarterback has to win it uh correct so yeah it would be interesting i and genti's still there i mean but there's a lot of people who don't watch him yeah and i think there's also a lot of people who could be biased against dion which might hurt you i think it actually helped in a weird way the fact that dion last year happened because the the hype got so out of control so early and then they kind of fell flat on their face the end of the season that they then went back a little bit under the radar where where people aren't people are like oh that's this is what they are yeah people are slow to go now right we're up where i'm not i'll just say i'm not going to be able to like watching the tape like they're way better than they were does hank have any heisman no he just walked out just got a meeting golfers keep track of that guy there he is instant instant he just walked he just left checking in hey do you have a heisman pick steve asked you a question as you walked out he's going to play 18 on the sim i wish um my only husband future is dylan so oh yeah it's not gonna work i do have a loser in nico i did bet nico oh no i have travis hunter too okay yeah yeah i just because i can't think of him without mention i saw will on the sidelines at austin i'm like hey we've been a couple of flights we literally sat across the aisle from each other on a 5 a.m flight after a&m notre dame and we didn't realize till we got to dallas and we were on separate flights where we dm'd each other i was like was that you on that flight was that you so i said hi to him finally at austin we talked he doesn't even say hi it's just like rayola that's all he said he's in a he's in a uh he's in a world of last week man yeah all right last question before we do games uh i want you to tell me steve unbiased perspective the state of the wisconsin badgers oh um glad you asked because last week uh i thought it was there he was it was there for the taken uh i i've i've said it on a couple like it it got it got it's gotten to a point like i think luke fickle is that such a good guy he's got a lot of good guys he's got a lot of good guys such a badass of a dude like he's just like if you haven't doing it go back and watch his old wrestling videos like he whipped ass wrestling like there's one thing with football guys everybody knows who the wrestlers are and it comes from a leveraged standpoint but to finally see his team start to get to the level and play like him like the Alabama game just you know crushed with with the injury of the quarterback Van Dyke but then you see them get up back off the mat and start establishing things you know getting back to run the full defense is on a better page and last Saturday knowing how good Madison is on a Saturday night it was there for the taking and they just couldn't do it the pick six you knew as soon as it happened it's there so whereas Alabama you're out of it after the first second quarter you've you've you made strides like you were you were there you had the winnable game in the second you had the lead at halftime yeah right 10-7 yeah um so I on the up and up this this game's monstrous this week yeah because I was kind of teetering you know now they made the quarterback move um and like I always when it gets to this point in the season we have a good mindset are you better than you were last night? Yeah and when you're in Luke Fickle's standpoint of trying to build this thing back up there's no doubt Wisconsin's better than they were last year that was you know that was my my my preseason take when anyone asked me about Wisconsin this year I said I think there'll be a better team I don't know if they'll have a better record which sounds crazy to say but it's no it's crazy knowing the knowing the North said the same exact thing yeah at the at the PGA championship in May yeah he told me that I was saying it all summer because I was like look we play the the the revisionist history there's some there's some angst in in in the Badger nation that you know like the Alabama game obviously the USC game USC doesn't look good you know the rest of the way that's a winnable game but the angst is there and I think people are doing revisionist history when you think about the best Badger teams I was I was there I was in person in Dallas in 2015 when when the Badgers were still had you know they had stuff going and they played Alabama and we would run off the the best Wisconsin team in the last 20 years does not beat Alabama that's just it's just it's just a fact so you don't like that game to me and how it went was not surprising and I didn't think it was the indication of where the program is it was that you just played Alabama don't schedule Alabama I wish we backed out of next year's game all right let's take a break from the games tell you about our friends at rollback it's safe to say we'd bet on these guys any day of the week because we absolutely love their gear it's college football season and rollback is ready if they're collegiately licensed drop there are custom designed polos hoodies and q-zips for some of your favorite schools rollbacks performance polos are the only polos we wear we don't even wear polos that often but when we do it's always rollback they have the most comfortable fabric and best fit it's that simple rollbacks performance hoodies are the 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weekend in madison because we play arizona and basketball on friday night oh wow yeah arizona friday night and then uh oregon on saturday uh i believe that will be i think that will be big noon i'm looking at it right now big 12 30 i should call it i think it's going to be big noon because in 12 28 it's brutal dad steve oh no yeah that'll be big noon because nebraska usc plays they'll put that at night start the game nebraska usc will play at night don't you think they'll put that on peacock i would think so yeah um are you guys with me there can't be a better uniform game this year or maybe ever than penn state at usc this year oh yes that was classic that was the sun was shining it wasn't the rose bowl it was a conference home game there was a guy there was a guy who i uh and he was taking like pictures on the sideline and i just looked through all of them and it looked like you were in a time machine it really did it looked like you were watching football from like 1960 it was so fucking cool that was oh incredible yeah i mean penn state's uniforms are they're elite i don't like them but it's a good uniform yeah all right well let's get to the games let's start with yeah yeah let's let's talk games ohio state penn state is the first one we got on on our list uh the current line i believe is still let me pull it up it is still uh ohio state and a hook minus four is it has it moved to three and a hook uh let me see three and a hook all right three three and a half uh okay i i'll start with this over under 45 that's come down a lot yeah i i don't want to feel like i'm walking into a trap here because you see penn state handle their business second half in madison on saturday you see ohio state struggled nebraska you know like you you think yourself you're like all right penn state's better than ohio state ryan day owns james franklin who's got more pressure on them in this game i think it's equal they both have a lot of pressure who's got more pressure i totally disagree i think it's ohio state yeah yeah because penn state's they're going to play out yeah yeah but i mean james franklin just cannot beat ohio state they have not beaten them since 2016 i'm gonna take penn state plus three and a half i'm gonna do it because i think ohio state losing their left tackle that was the thing that was shocking to me too yeah yeah they lost their backup too right backup got hurt last week yeah that was a shocking thing to me last week was like they were getting kind of bullied in the trenches and penn state is a real deal defense so i think penn state i don't know if allers playing a perbula i actually think they should do a package for both because they're they are very different uh but i'm gonna take penn state plus three and a half what do you got steve uh just a couple things here for numbers for the people penn state's failed to cover the last six games as an underdog of six and a half or fewer points that's the longest active streak in fbs uh franklin has struggled uh one and nine straight up against ohio state however they're seven and three against the spread okay and going to ohio state's feel like you touched on it dan they looked as bad as you could be coming off a bye i was there at austin i mentioned and they were there step for step had the lead oregon answered every time they scored with a big play splash play and kept that crowd in it and they thought that was a major factor in the last drive um i don't love this i i really want to take the over um i just feel like there's too much talent i love both off as coordinators uh ohio state will have something uh from a creative standpoint to be able to run the ball for ryan day to come off the field and the first thing he says in the press conference is we have to be able to run it um their salary cap at running back is maxed out and those guys need to get the ball and have some wins by field goal therefore i will take penn state plus the point i i kind of agree with the field goal game i'll lay the three and a half you're gonna take yeah will howard's my guy will howard's my guy like what he said about running the ball i think franklin he owns franklin i don't love that it's a noon kick instead of a night guy if it was nighttime i think it that's an old school handicap obviously but at nighttime is a little bit more electric for state penn i like ohio state here close obviously it's gonna be a couple things here why won't they do a wide out for a noon game what's the biggest reason why they won't do a wide out for a noon game freaking deal good question yeah all of a sudden they want to follow the laws you know what i mean steve like he says bring white white out energy yeah just do a white out like seriously just do it yeah i it's it has you haven't won in eight years do you against ohio state do you do you trust will howard steve i don't um you know it sucks because being there i was really impressed with him at all at oregon i thought he played great and then the last play happens so that dictates how everyone says i i thought he played fine last week you know and that's what i i think about this week and having quick game all that stuff i do trust him in that i wasn't sure before the season he's earned my trust this season uh does rico have any places for me to go in uh state college i do not no you don't have any friends i would say champs because they're good to us we went to a local establishment you have any peeps on the feet on the ground there uh we don't know i don't want to ask anybody no i'm not familiar with that place did you you're a people person i know yeah you are did you get wings in uh bloomington i did did you go to buffalo louise oh yeah so good so wow yeah they're they're a one seat yeah they they're they're shout out to buffalo louise guys they brought us a whole platter when we went to bloomington i uh i try when i say i don't trust will howard it's it's just to win a national championship that was my take before the season that's my take still i think he's a very good quarterback i just don't know in audson like you said steve game on the line uh but his his receivers are so good that it might not matter you know what i mean like he's played in some big games at kansas state yeah obviously racing for that conference championship every every year yeah all right yeah the game that scarred me last was last year on a thursday night he went to stillwater and looked awful that place they got rocked yeah uh yeah all right oregon michigan next up oregon's minus 15 over under 45 i'll start with this one as well i hate doing it but i like the under i like the under I like the under I think Oregon's defense has Uh, I think the only two teams who are the two teams or Ohio state and Boise state are the two teams that has scored more than 14 points against Oregon. Do you think Michigan is Ohio state and Boise state on offense? Absolutely not. I think Michigan's defense is still good. They're going to be that. This is kind of like a, you know, gut check. Hey, we know Oregon is, is a great offense. Let's go fucking man up on them. I like the under 45, uh, for this game, Steve. Uh, you nailed it. Uh, with my thoughts, I just want to point out, this is the second largest home dog Michigan has been since 1978. Wow. I was one. I was one. Uh, what were they? What were they when they were 2013, 2013 Ohio state, they were plus 16 and a half. Wow. That's they lost. That was a 42, 41 game. Yeah. Crazy one. That's right. That, uh, that, that, that is crazy that that's, it's been that long. And yeah. And so like, I mean, they're all in. Five against the spread against teams above 500. Like it's not for, they're, they're a brutal watch brutal. Um, and you nailed it with the defense of Oregon. If Dylan Gabriel sputters a little bit, they still got some plenty of talent. Michigan's defense. There'll be, there'll be juiced up for this. That defense will keep them in it. Cause Michigan just, they can't do it offensively. Um, I'm going to lay the 14 and a half with Oregon. Yeah. Um, but I love, I love your under, I don't want to do the same thing after you go first. So, uh, I do love your under call. Uh, maybe, you know what? Tease them. Both. That's, that's a win. I like that. Wait, tease, tease the Oregon and the Oregon and the under. I like that. Yeah. No, the, uh, in Oregon, uh, has not, or sorry, Michigan at home or Michigan this year, I believe the only team that scored over 24 points against them was Texas. So, or no, sorry, Washington scored 27 against them. So, I mean, if you do the math, if Michigan keeps them to 27. 30, is Michigan scoring 17 points in this game? It's have nots. It's have, haves and have nots with the quarterback. I think Oregon rolls them. Oh, you like the ducks to roll. I like the ducks to roll. Both like they could win boring. I think Michigan's defense, uh, but their offense is just that bad where they're not going to score. Like their defense will be like, what do we do? We held them to 24 and they went 24 to six. Yeah. Something like that. Like I do dig it. I think it's, could be ugly, but, uh, I like Oregon here. Big. Okay. Uh, next Michigan first half. What that is. Yeah. That's a good call. Cause yeah. Keep it in with the juice and then they get a little deflated. You're going to be getting more than, yeah, you're going to be getting more than a touchdown. Let's see. Haves, uh, Michigan first half is eight and a half. I don't hate that. Uh, throwing it up. Yeah. Uh, cocktail party, Florida, Georgia. I'll let you start Steve so that, uh, you don't copy me on anything. You know, uh, one of Dan's favorite all timers, uh, Graham Mertz, I really am bummed. He's hurt. I would have loved to see him in this game knowing that, uh, he's got himself so much better. You get it. You know, quarterbacks want a chance to go against the best. And that's what makes me think all that's been up. I'm Billy Napier guy. I really like him. I want him to do well. Keep that job. Um, I believe that he knows what he's doing. He has been really, really good with quarterbacks going back to his days, um, at Louisiana with Lee, uh, Levi. And I, I, it's like George's off. It hasn't gotten there yet. And now I'm starting to want, like go through the sec quarterbacks in conference play and all of them look at touchdowns, interceptions, Carson Beck's eight and eight. That's not good for a guy that like people had top of the draft boards. Um, and when you want, like being at the Texas game, being at the Alabama game, he's not, he doesn't put the ball where it's supposed to be. Uh, that led to, you know, critical interceptions in the first half against Texas. And I just wonder, I don't think he's going to be able to do that. think they can overpower uh florida i i like florida um to hang around in this game i do like the under okay uh we got 52 52 yeah um yeah this game feels like it goes under a lot yeah special team like bowers always broke big plays in this game um georgia has not been good as a 14 point favorite this year oh and four ats uh but i don't i'm i'm sort of just i want to this game's awesome when it's good i know it feels like we get blowouts all the time um florida's not i'm gonna i think florida keeps it inside which if it gets to 17 i would take florida it's at 16 16 and a half right now but under 52 and a half all right i'm wrong i want to correct myself the last like two years it was 42 20 43 20 34 7 28 44 so never mind there are points in this game i was wrong give us the other that's on like all overs yeah yeah uh rico under 52 and a half okay i'm taking the under uh i do think florida is not as bad as people think um this year they were supposed to be awful and you looked at that schedule they might still hit that win total which everybody loved the under that win total and it then went i think it went from five and a half to all the way down to four and a half and they still have florida state on the schedule they do have a murderer's row here coming up of the next four games i don't know what old miss is going to be when they go there right watch out yeah exactly so they're not as bad as they think i think this is an under i think georgia takes care of business defensively florida doesn't i think it's a little a little gross under the thing it's all on lagways was his third start like if they had any quarterback with some experience that that's seen um anything in the realm of georgia i would like florida a lot but i just can't do it with with such youth that quarterback okay i'll join you guys in the under i i wanted to take georgia but i just that's just a lot of points i in florida i agree with you rico like florida's not as bad they're really not as bad so bad that people they might make a bowl and that's a win for this year i don't know if it keeps napier's job but they might get a bowl i think it does okay yeah yeah i think we're gonna get i that's always the question gruden lane lane is the only answer all right i mean that's what they want i don't think they can get them they got a lot of money at nil at old miss though yeah all right uh next game we've got uh texas a&m and south carolina whoo that's two and a half i believe uh i i love south carolina in this game and i might be walking into a trap i'm doing it on defense i'm doing on letdown spot that texas a&m game was fantastic they played fantastic against lsu in that second half who do you think is going to play quarterback are they going to go are they going to go back and forth with wegman and marcel reed i would start reed okay knowing what knowing his capability uh and knowing what south carolina brings to the table uh you know what do you go two for two throwing the ball yeah for like 50 yards yeah yeah and the throw couldn't have been even better this uh go ahead whoever's no rico yeah i'll go texas a&m you're going texas i like texas a&m i wrote him last week against lsu in a big time spot i know it's a letdown everything roads that way i like the way this texas a&m team is playing okay i like elko as well yeah i like tight spots i'll back the coach when it comes down to it i like elko because it reminds everyone that you don't need the flashy hire every time just get a good football coach he texas a&m did the jimbo thing mike elko is just a good fucking football coach and it's like you know whenever boosters and in schools get into that their own head of like oh well we need a big name we need a national champion coach all that shit get a good football coach mike elko's a good football coach i had a west virginia fan come up to me the other day and say what do you think about uh jimbo to west virginia if they could get them interesting they might be able to get him he's not doing anything no i wouldn't hire him okay uh what do you got in this game you guys nail it with elko uh got a chance he let me come to practice before the notre dame game the guy's so freaking good um you know he's what he's he's one of us uh you know he's he's he's down to earth but god damn he gets his team to play uh it's just what they're up against here getting back up after the game and they're not doing anything they're not after such a big win against lsu south carolina's five and one against the spread against hp top 10 teams since 21 that's the second best uh in the country over that span that place is special at night um it sucks because i trust elko so much more than beamer and that's going to be the reason i'm wrong uh i will take south carolina plus the points at home yeah okay last on the field rico on the field on the field on the field last game pit at smu got a big laugh from jackie back there he's been asleep for 45 minutes but huge uh huge game in the acc pit at smu uh do we know the status of holstein i think he's gonna be again i think him and drew aller are both going to be game times okay i i like smu in this game what's the what's the current line i thought it was seven pit has been awesome they've also they've had some crazy games that cincinnati game was crazy i mean last thursday season yeah thursday three pick sixes five interceptions i think smu i think it kind of the cinderella story kind of runs out tonight uh on saturday night with pit i'm taking smu steve i'm gonna take pit plus the points uh love what narduzzi does i thought it was a huge ego check when he brought in kade bell as offensive coordinator he's a hurry up guy he brought some guys from western carolina with him totally goes against everything narduzzi has ever stood for and here they are undefeated ranked 18th in the country. Just feels like it's too many points. Love Rhett. Lashley, I thought that was a big-time decision he had to make, changing quarterbacks. The numbers are against me. Pitt's six straight cover losses as a road dog. It's the longest streak in FBS. Something tells me Pitt's defense hangs around. There was a quarterback position, you know, for Pitt, and Holstein won it, so their backup is capable. And, I mean, both – you look at both those games last – Pitt has the five picks, three picks, sixes. SMU turned the ball over six times and still won. Yeah. Like, you can't be – I mean, I believe it's ten lost fumbles, most in power four. SMU, you can't live like that and continue to be successful. I'll say SMU wins, but I'll take Pitt plus the points. Okay. Rico? Over. Over. I think you get some – like you mentioned, Pitt playing some weird college – get some college football plays in this one. I've always liked SMU's offense coming into the season, had their win total over. Thought they were a sleeper in that conference. Even with the quarterback change, they've been putting up some points. I kind of like the over here. Okay. You know what? I'm going to ride with you in the over. I like the over. I'm going to add the over to my card. 58 and a half. Is that your first over? Yeah, it was my first over. Scratch it. Are you still finding yourself after Sunday? I'm having a terrible, terrible, terrible football season. I need college – I'm like Bosco. I need college basketball. Just a reset. Speaking of college basketball, you did go to practice, Steve. They're 13 deep. They're fucking unbelievable, right? Like, we're booked for – Oh, UConn? UConn? No, I'm talking about Bama. But UConn's very good. Yeah. We're booked for – Alabama. I'm going to put it on the thing right now. Anything less than us being at happy hour in San Antonio would be a failure. Oh, yeah. They better go to the Final Four. They better. Back to back. I mean, this is a big – Like, if you don't do it, I'm going to make fun of you a lot. A lot. A lot. And rightfully so. They're 13 deep. They look fucking unbelievable. The other night against Memphis, they got three starters missing. They're still scoring 96 points in scrimmages. You've seen the culture down there. The guy, like – I texted you about it. You didn't fucking answer. Talk to me about the culture down there. Guy's a winner. Yeah. I mean, you got to go to practice. I texted you. I said, are you starting to see it? I will say, seeing it in person, it's really cool. He lets anybody affiliated with a high school program come to practice anytime, any day. Well, yeah, of course. He doesn't forget where he came from. He lets Bosco go in. I mean, if you let Bosco go to your practice, you're letting anyone. You need just a warm room to sit in. You can go to Alabama's practice. Dan, I got to admit, I got in trouble from Scott because I bought the Kool-Aid in Bloomington. I put on the candy stripes. I was all in. And I got five – not five minutes. I got about a half hour by myself, all by myself, on the floor in Assembly Hall, looking up, checking it out. Like, I'm older than you guys, but, like, the Bob Knight – Yeah. When I was young. They never fucking lost at home. I mean, like, never. It was years, it felt like, watching as a kid. And to be in there, like, it was really cool. And then you go in the Players' Lounge, like, Oladipo and Zeller donated everything. Like, you're in this immaculate Players' Lounge, and then you go out, and it's old-school Assembly Hall. What's the best venue in Big Ten for hoops? I mean, Assembly Hall has got to be – It's pretty – Well, the Kohl Center, because they can help us out with the refs. Scott would say that. By the way, Bob Knight – People forget, Bob Knight was supposed to be Wisconsin's head coach. History could have been very different. Really? Yeah. He was going from Army to Wisconsin, and the press leaked it before he could tell his wife. And he's like, no, I'm not going. That was how close it was. Hoops for Big Ten. I mean, Assembly Hall has got to be one. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. I'm just double-checking. Yeah, no, I'm just thinking if there's any – I mean – Sprinkle's going to have the boys on the rise. Don't forget that. Yeah. Hank's all in on Washington. Is that still American Airlines Arena? Yeah, is it? No, Alaska. Alaska Airlines. Alaska. Maybe. I hate the Oregon court. What about Mus in the Galen Center? Yeah. We went – We practiced there. It was awesome. Pauly's Pavilion? Yeah, Pauly's up there. Yeah, Pauly's up there for sure. All right. Well, Steve, thank you, man. We appreciate you filling in. We got some good football talk. Do you have a best bet? Oh, you got a best bet this week? Yeah. Ooh. Hmm. Oregon's up there. Yep. Okay. That's mine. Oregon minus 15. Hold on. That's mine. Hold on. Is it 15? I thought it was 14 on the hook. No, it's 15. Oh, damn. Another meeting. Arkansas. Oh, I liked Ole Miss. Okay. Arkansas. Steve, you're the best. You're the best. Thank you. We'll see you when we see you. See you on the road. See you on the road. You'll see him before me, but I'll see you in San Antonio. Yeah, Rico doesn't go to college football. Can we get Rico to a college football game? It is kind of crazy. You do have to come to one now. All right. I didn't realize that you'd never been to like a big, big time one. His first one should be whoever Northwestern plays at Wrigley. Yeah. Yeah. Come out for that. Northwestern Ohio State at Wrigley. All right. There you go. Yeah. Thanks, Steve. All right, Steve. Try to get me to a big one. Or send him to a Northwestern home game on the practice field. Yeah. Soccer field. Everyone tune in to, you know, SportsCenter. It's the best with Scott, SVPod. Steve's on game day every week. He's the best in the biz. All right, Steve. We'll see you. All right, guys. Take it easy. See ya. Okay. Thanks to Stanford. Steve, let's do our cards and our mortals brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings, by the way, this week, DraftKings has a college football parlay profit boost. All you have to do is head to the app. Opt into the Barstool Boost. Make your bet. So, head to the app now and claim this week's offer. Rico, card. Memphis, minus seven and a half. Navy, minus ten and a half. Louisville, Clemson, over 61 and a half. And Oregon is the best bet, minus 15. Oh, I like that. Louisville, Clemson. Add that to my card. Yeah. Over. I'm going to take Army Air Force over 41 and a half. I know. I wanted to do that, too, with those service academies, but I think Army rolls them. I think Army rolls them. And I'm also going to take Michigan State. Michigan State, plus seven and a half. Let's do our mortals. I'll have more adds to the card as we go. I can't do anything. I'm just bad this year. Where is Ebo? Mortal. Oh. I want his mortal. Miami, minus 21. Miami, minus 21. Versus Duke. Duke. Okay. Duke's overachieving this year. Gave out their win total under. Didn't do it. Soupy. Go in Texas A&M, minus two and a half. Okay. Texas A&M, minus two and a half. Bubba. You on this? We'll get his. Jack. Jackie. Mine and Ebo's. Mine is Minnesota, minus three. Ebo's is Florida, plus 16 and a half. Florida, plus 16 and a half. They're not that bad. Bosco. Oregon, minus 15. Oregon, minus 15. I think they win by 21 plus. I actually was going to do Ole Miss, and now I'm scared because of Steve. So I have to figure out what my. Okay, lock is. I'm going to look real quick. Stall. Say something, Rico. Say something? I have something for Rico. Oh, here we go. I just wanted to ask, if you're so confident in Alabama going to the Final Four, should we bet your ability to go on the trip only if Alabama makes it? I love that. I mean, you said you're very, very confident. Very, very confident, but I have to go to the Final Four. You have to? I got meetings. I know there's a lot to. I do a lot of meetings. I get numbers. If you're very confident, I'm going to go to the Final Four. If you're very confident, I think you should put that on the table right now. The NCAA tournament is always a weird scenario. You know what I mean? Anybody can beat anybody, but I'm very confident in them. Yes. Very confident. So we have a deal? Jack's making decisions on guest lists now? That sounds like a good deal. If there's people expecting me there, like. Sounds like a good deal. If that's the time I catch up with them. Okay. I'll do Penn State plus three and a half. Mortal. All right. Dave will be back next week. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Let's win some bets. Let's take care of it.