2023 CFB Pick Em Championship Week

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I don't go to doctors, but I finally went. Went on the antibiotics. It got better, and then I got it all back, too. Like, are we comparing. You don't take care of yourself. You have a gradual. I took the fucking antibiotics, and then it went back. All right, relax. I got the diarrhea, fucking morning sickness. I got the diarrhea, too, yeah. I was battling it. It's the Graduate Hotel in Ann Arbor, which should be shut down. They. It was 100 degrees. I didn't sleep. That night, I know when I need sleep. I was going on a night where I need sleep. I was tired, traveling. My personal life, I had a stressful Thanksgiving disaster. I needed to sleep, and I got none. I was up all night, and that did it. So if you. Again, I've said this now for. We've been doing Barstool for 20 years. If I open a hotel chain, I'd call it AC and water pressure. That's it. That's all you need in a hotel room. And pillows. They didn't have the AC. Pillows, too. Maybe parentheses. AC, water pressure, parentheses. Also, pillows are important. It's crazy how every shitty hotel has pillows that are, like, huge, so your head is like that. I would say free. Yeah, free of disaster. Free movies, too. I feel like when you go. No, no, I don't care. Who cares about movies? Hotels are, like. It's not an airplane. Listen, of listing them out, it's water pressure, it's AC. Movies are down the list, though. I feel like you scroll the cable channels, there's, like, 12. No, no. No, when we're. That's not on the list. When we're traveling, I don't spend any, like. My hotel's sleep. And what do you not bring? Like, you have computers, you have your phone. Like, there's plenty of entertainment. Movies, that's crazy. I need a sleep chamber. I need literally a pod that I can go and they can just, like, make it so cold and comfortable and just put me to sleep for eight hours. And I'll come out of the sleep chamber and be ready to go. Yeah, okay. Movies. Although, Dave, I was thinking about it. I do think this is actually. The hotel aside, I think this is a Feast Week tradition. Two things happen to us every single Feast Week. We retire from gambling and we get sick. Like, my body shuts down every single year at this exact time. I lost my voice last year this time. Like, it just. My body says, no moss. Like, you've done too much. I didn't even bet that much, but every bet. I have lost everything since the Joe Burrow. Everything. I knew that Bills game. I had one bet on Sunday, 100 grand on the Bills. I knew they were. I just knew it. I knew the entire game that they weren't going to win. Everything that. It's just. I just knew it. I just knew it. I won, I guess, Michigan. That's it. What'd you get with the Bills, though? Did you technically push? No. Two and a half. Two and a half. I bet it right before kick. Oh, yeah. And crazy, I looked at moving it to three, but it went from, like, minus 105 to, like, minus 129. I wasn't going to do it at 129. I wish I did. It would have saved me 100 grand. Football numbers. Football numbers. They are important. Dave, it sucks, though, because you're retired, and when you're retired, like, Elio should be hot, and he's not. Yeah, I know. I actually was. I saw that he lost. Well, I mean, he won, like, 10 of 11 at one point. I know. You can't keep that up. I know. And Che got. I think this is actually exactly last week we might have been talking about. Che and Elio got cold at the same time. Yeah. And I'm like, how do I not have any money? Oh, it's because of both my guys. I haven't been dying, Che. I have been Elio every day. I haven't had him last two because I haven't bet. Yeah. So. All right. So are you. New York Post, we were texting about it, Dave. Like, did you ever think the New York Post would write about you retiring from gambling? A while. Because we've retired from gambling 100 million times. I'm not surprised when the New York Post writes anything about me. But even that one, I was like, whoa. Like, because I literally. I mean, I retire 10 times a week. Yeah. When I'm going bad, I quit and retire every day. I've always said, like, and knowing you for over a decade and, like, knowing how you gamble, I've always been a little bit jealous of the fact that you couldn't actually retire. Because you know me, Dave. Like, I never retire. Yeah. I always have it on. No, I. I've really slowed down. Because I just get. It's like, all right, that's enough. Like, and I've been doing the same units, but I mixed in after that. The Bengals, I put 70 on them to win the Super Bowl. I got maybe half a quarter out of that bet. Then I put 100 on them against the Ravens. Definitely got half a quarter out of that bet. Then I put 100 on the running Utes. I got 45 seconds out of that bet. And then the Bills. So I've had some monster losses. Yeah. And Dave in retirement means that he'll start watching shows. If you have shows, tell him what shows to watch. I remember there was one year where you went into retirement right around this time. And you were, like, you were talking to me about, like, Coco Disney movie and shit. Yeah, that's a good movie. Yeah, you were just. I was, like, sweating out, like, Pac-12 basketball. And you're like, I watched Coco last night. I was like, God damn it. I wish I had this ability. Yeah, it's a totally different lifestyle. You go to bed early. Yeah. Did you load up? You live healthy. Did you load up on Michigan? No. I had 25 on him straight. Okay. Roscoe, you're so bad. It's bad. My family's concerned. Fucking nuts, bro. Are you going to see the situation? First guy to ever get sick. First guy to have kids. First guy to get sick. Yes. Be better. You're right. In fairness, I never asked out. I was told don't come, but I don't believe. Even sick, being sick. I'm not saying you asked out or anything. I'm not. You said your family was concerned. Yeah, they're like, the cough sounds bad. Everyone has cough. It's going around. I know. It's crazy. You may have the vid. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't know about that. It's a weak aversion problem. We're all probably good. I guess weak and weak and weak. No, I think the only. Yeah. The only way. Yeah. The only way to fucking get out of it is, like, go on vacation or something like that. Speaking of which. Which is a great, great roll call. It's good, you know, championship week. Good to see Dan. Good to see Dave. Uh-huh. Austin back there behind the glass. Liam, obviously. Hey, Hank, you there? Yeah. Hey, what's up? Zoopy. Good to see you, Rico. Wait. Ebo? Ebo's finishing up mostly sports, but I saw him this morning. But he's working, right? Yeah. Dave, I also want to commend. Dave, I want to commend you that it's nice, you know, you give the. Like we said, they're keeping the glass running. Are you a little concerned that maybe some of the people have already spent the money that hasn't even hit the account yet? What? Isn't the Jack of Tables not there? Is that what you're driving at? He's in South America. I didn't even notice. Yeah. South America. He takes the waves down in Smack-frica. No, he's in South. I see the models down in Smack-frica. He's in South Africa. What's he doing there? He's on a vacation. Planned vacation. He didn't know that. I mean, how could you know that? I didn't know that, you know, like late November, early December, they'd be playing football. You want this checkmark, there is nothing I won't do. Rico's been waiting for this moment all year. Oh, my God. My credit card has cocaine rams, I do. Crazy time to take vacation, it really is. Yeah, it's whatever. You got time. Any time anybody asks me anything, I'm just like, yeah, for the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. after i did july bedtime baby aruba i've told this story but i actually got out of jury duty once uh like three years ago i went and it was like september and they're like what why do you need to get out and i was like football season they're like okay when can you come back i was like after the super bowl after the super bowl before mount march madness that is yeah then after after the tournament then you then you're really free yeah then it's then it's like all right we made it we made it but yeah aruba baby oh you're going to ruben august who goes to ruben august worst time to go there i went last year that was the famous thing he bought the fucking company back i'm sitting on zoom like an asshole well you go to ruben august you go to ruben february we went in august it was hot it was hot yeah you get the discount rates though there no one's there that's yeah that's true all right yeah so jackie tables he's in uh he is in south africa i i started telling people he was in south america and then that rumor started south africa south africa he's got a shawley stern thing he got tired of chasing chicago girls now he's a fucking legit model he's in south africa south africa yeah who goes on vacation in south africa i don't know rich people and shit drug people rich people and drug people so he's rich uh malisek who the fuck goes to south africa i don't know so how long has he gone for like a month no he's gone for a week he's a vacation guy combining thanksgiving into a week off his smart move but but so isn't that like a 48 hour journey there doesn't matter his dad's got a piece his dad like was a founder and tim hortons or something he's got fucking money up the wazoo true who you call you can just call south africa like i don't know no way what time yeah you said africa dave you the fact that you've done this a million times we were like you called hawaii on company like you called hawaii on company you still think long distance exists no but it's a weird race it's a weird ring what are you talking about calling european on cell phones isn't that different yes see there's a weird ring hear it no it's cell phone to cell phone no it's a weird ring no no it isn't just cell phone to cell phone you're good like you're gonna dial like zero zero yeah it's a weird ring yeah that's if it's a land line there's no way if the man's cell phone is in south africa the thing rings my phone i don't think that's true yeah definitely not well it depends what kind of service you got i guess but they don't even have the same services and shit i guess i don't know if you get wi-fi wi-fi you could do phone calls so what happened did it actually go to voicemail yeah but it was a weird ring did you hear that ring no i couldn't hear it but i know it's everything's fucked i don't think even just someone says in south africa the other side of the world you just call them on fucking verizon like normal listen to the ring it's weird oh wait no no this is a real ring that was a weird ring at first wasn't it you need somebody he's in a meeting in south africa have them zoom in send them the zoom link all right perfect maybe like zebras and shit behind them you gotta get gas i like gas you gotta get gasoline on these guys a little bit more and if i'll tell you what if jackie did a fake background like he's in an office gasoline on him what are you talking about gasoline's on this guy's more than anybody has there's no working leans up the mouth i'm just looking at your email right now i can't see them anymore oh zoopy no i'm saying like you know push strain them a little strain them like lean on them make them hurt a little make them sweat what what do you want to do just be like hey pal you're in south africa fucking well listen everyone gets vacation it's just yeah football season's a weird vacation i take my vacation my one vacation a year after football season same i learned from the best yeah um okay uh oh how was the dinner postponed oh no no it's okay i didn't feel fucking good and neither did i would have been i wouldn't be able to keep the food down gas of me i was happy to go out for the dinner i was in the middle of a pretty bad cold and he was taking it personally i feel like shit we had listen excited to hang out yeah you had every right i didn't push you that hard no but you were acting like i was dodging it i didn't know i didn't i didn't at all it was very funny though that you had forgot about it and like two o'clock i'm like dave what are you in the mood for and you just watch dan he's walking down the hall and he just goes oh he forgot about it you watch the life of his body just gets so because i didn't feel good i didn't feel good yeah no i it would have been a shit dinner so it would have been like so when is it postponed to well we're all gonna be yeah we're gonna all be together in chicago so that will be that will be our bowl season preview am i invited to this dinner or do you don't want me rico you want one-on-one i think it's a one-on-one okay it's a one-on-one got it so but then you got to save well i guess we'll do pick them before the dinner i'm coming in at 6 a.m on wednesday okay so maybe we'll why don't we just do it normal wednesday morning yeah no it depends on when dave gets in but we should do the the final bowl pick them should be all in person because i think we got a lot to do discuss right because the dinner's got some things to discuss i'd assume oh it's a casual dinner there's no friendly dinner there's no business at this dinner it's a friendly dinner i thought yes the business comes when the business comes but maybe at the dinner i don't know if he wants to wait that long oh you think it's gonna happen before that dave is it gonna happen before it the business because i for people who don't know oh that was an interesting time out by dave yeah i'm gonna take one as well hold on one second i mean what are we guys just leave me here what the fuck you want coffee this is i feel like this is yeah i'll take a coffee this is like a fever dream episode where we're all a little bit sick and it's like i don't really know what's going on antoine walker's sitting in the office i did the thing where i took nyquil last night and i took too much of it and i woke up too early so i'll have nyquil brain oh yeah where it's like i'm a little dizzy it's kind of fun it's like you guys ever you guys ever robo trip that's i was i shouldn't have said that you heard robitussin back in college did a couple robitussin blunts yeah that's bad i'm like part of the you know like i was part of the reason why they they not actually part of the reason but they started locking robitussin up these kids started doing that i was dumb i was dumb i mean i'm i'm not proud of this felt good though yeah robo tripping hey pick'em listeners we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners cozy season is upon us bombas makes your comfiest fall staples so you can make the 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dinner was a friendly fucking dinner it is that's why i was wondering if i was invited but i'm not he's throwing all that in there he's throwing all that in there what if we took out all the producers or a friendly to ensure a friendly dinner got it business yeah i would hope business is what yeah because if we do the three of us pledge master is just gonna keep doing this no i'm not gonna do this i'm gonna i was i wasn't saying just the three of us i was saying all the guys that work on this show a good year yeah but that's okay i think yeah i think it's i mean it's up you know this is around the this is around the time when when things start heating up in terms of talking but you have six different things on your list you got to deal with shit you're dealing with you got michigan trying to win a title got the company back true what else promoting surviving barstool you're paying shit out of here pocket like true i expected yeah i i expect i expect in the next two weeks santa visits the house oh okay i think that's a not a crazy time i don't think so either it's december he's doing something else there you go no i'm listening i'm just asleep yeah it's got a lot going on let's talk some football let's talk some football let's talk some football uh okay playoffs this is going to be the best conference championship saturday because we got i i mean i think this is the most undefeated teams we've had this late in the season since they started the college football playoff four teams we've talked about it what do you guys think is going to be the final four if you had to predict right now michigan yeah georgia yeah oregon yeah florida state i agree with you Michigan Michigan And if Florida State loses, Texas. Michigan. Yeah. Georgia, Oregon, Texas. Wait, say it again, Rico. So you don't think Ohio State has a chance to sneak in? I think Ohio State needs Florida State. Yeah, they need a lot of help. They need Florida State, Texas, and Alabama to lose. They need a lot of help. Then they'd be in. You don't think they can jump Texas? Or stay ahead of Texas? I don't think they can jump Texas because Texas has – they're playing – I shouldn't say jump. They're ahead of it. Yeah, Texas would jump Ohio State, I think, with a win on Championship Saturday. Against Oklahoma State? I think conference championships matter. Yeah, I mean, I will say – I think someone I saw say the odds are plus 1,500 for Ohio State, but that committee loves Ohio State. They do. They do. They do. Like, why wouldn't Texas already be ahead of them? I don't know that Oklahoma State is that big of a win. Yeah. No, you're not – it's not that – It's not that crazy to say that. So you're saying, like, Florida State loses and Alabama loses, Ohio State's in. I think they have a chance. Which is not a – like, that's – Why wouldn't the committee signal right now if they're clearly going to put Texas in over Ohio State? Yeah. Why wouldn't they have done that already? Yeah, why wouldn't – Because I don't think Oklahoma State's – It matters. Why wouldn't Ohio State be behind Texas and Alabama right now? Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. It is a little weird that they're ahead of them. But I do think just having that one extra game, because Ohio State can't do anything this weekend, so. Yeah, I agree with you, but, like, I don't – like, Oklahoma State is not a quality win, really. Yeah. Well – They're good. They're good, but, yeah, it's – It's not – But who's – but State – you know, Ohio State's only really hanging their hat. I don't think Ohio State should be in, but I don't – I was very surprised to see where they put them in the latest poll. Oklahoma State's 19, so it's not like they're unranked. No. Right. So – But that's not – I mean, yeah, who's – they're 19. Who's 10? 10 is – Penn State. Yeah. Penn State. Penn State. Yeah. Yeah. So that's still – they're looking at that as a much better – They're looking at it as a much better win. Alabama loses to Georgia. They're out of the top 10, maybe. Yeah. The – and then, yeah, the Michigan – just, Dave, like, have you had a second to process the fact that that was maybe – I said this on part of my take that I think that was maybe the worst loss a fan base could ever have in Ohio State. Because it was like a – That was – It was a skins game. It was a skins game in golf. It was – that was – they were playing for the last three years. Like, if Ohio State won that game, they would have been like, nothing mattered. Michigan has never beaten us fair and square. The biggest game in the history of the rivalry. I honestly believe that. And it was the last time that it's going to be like that because they're getting rid of the divisions. They'll both be in almost every year if they stay what they are. Right. So, yeah, it's pretty crazy to think. Did you see, Dave, too, the – there was local broadcasters in Ohio, in Columbus. I did. Their radio show. They were so mad they didn't cut to break. And the host was like, I'll just pay for the ads myself. We're not doing commercials today. It was awesome. They needed, like, an intervention. Yeah. The producer was like, we have to. We're getting paid. Like Common Man and T-Bone or something. It was perfect. It was so perfect. Like, I'm not exaggerating. I think that's the name of the two guys. That's exactly the name of the two guys. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So – We do have a – yeah, we do have a few nightmare scenarios on our hands. All right. Play them out. Play them out. Well, just – no, just five – I mean, it's very simple. It's the one we've laid out all day. Bama beats Georgia. Texas wins. Oregon beats Washington. Michigan and Florida State. And you've got four seats for five teams. I don't think that's that nightmare. I think it's Texas, Oregon, Florida State, and Michigan, which would be a Michigan's dream. I think you're crazy if you think that they won't – the committee will not fuck the SEC. The committee will fuck the SEC. I think when a push comes to shove, they know who butters the bread, and I could see them fucking Oregon. I could see them fucking Florida State, and I could see them fucking Texas for the sake of Bama. I know it makes no sense. It's just how they do it. Well, they wouldn't fuck Oregon because Oregon's so far ahead of – Oregon's fifth. Bama's eighth. If Oregon beats Washington, Washington's what, third? So, like, that – Oregon isn't a win and get in. I think that's pretty clear. They could fuck Texas, which would be very disappointing because, like, why would you – Games are supposed to matter. Why would you play all these iterations out when it's like they literally played each other? Right. Yeah. What do you – the one you touched on, too, where – what is it? Texas loses, Florida State loses, and Georgia loses? How are you saying – No, if Texas and – If Ohio State was going to get in. Yeah, if Texas, Florida State, and Alabama lose, Ohio State's in. Oh, there he is. Jackie. What's up? What's up? Who the fuck goes to South Africa? Jackie, you'll never believe this, but your name came up from one Rico Bosco. Of course it did. I assumed it would. Wait, we did a roll call, Jack. I just want to make sure the guys weren't spending the money. We always do roll calls. No, I know. You're always worried about what everybody else is doing, I'm sure. You're worried about me. Who takes vacations in the middle of football season to South Africa? Well, it was – it's like a long, long time ago. That's why I wasn't on, like, Pick'Em before. You did? When it was booked. You didn't know that they were playing football in November? You didn't either. Well, no, I knew they were playing football. Before Penn bought us? Yeah, yeah. It was way, way back. This has been, like, in the words for like – Wait, you bought it four years ago? No, no, no. Or no, no, no. When Penn owned us. Yeah, I said before. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because when Penn bought us, I thought you were, like, in charge of gambling. No, I was. I was. Right, which is important during, like, this busiest part of your life. But I'm not, like, not – Jack, you manage gambling? What time is it right there, Jack? What time is it, right? 6 p.m.? This sucks so bad. So, when the games are playing. So, what time do the games go there? Like, at, like, 3 in the morning? Like, late, yeah. So, you just stay awake. You never sleep. It's easy. Dave, he walks out of the clubs, and then he checks out the games. It's perfect. No, no, no, no. I mean, I'm not, like, completely – I'm not completely tapped out. Like, I was still, like, doing – I'm still doing things. But, yeah. What is it? Was it your family? No, no, no. Pals. Boys trip? Boys trip. Who takes a boys trip to South Africa? Drug guys. Dude, relax on that. Are you in the drug trade? No, I'm not working the drug trade. Well, in South Africa, I don't think of drugs. I think of zebras and lions. In diamonds. Are you in the diamond trade? Oh, you're a diamond guy? Yeah, you're a diamond guy? You want this checkmark? Honey, there is nothing I won't do. My credit card has cocaine wrapped. Stop with the cocaine. I do the things down in South Africa. Jackie Table down in South Africa. Jack, are you – when you're meeting chicks out, are they like, ooh, you're the Barstool gambling guy? Yes, a bunch of South African girls are like, wow, you're the Barstool. You're the Barstool gambling guy. Hell, yes. He does it all the time. You got to hear him at River North. He's like, hey, you guys want a pizza? Just a week. Just a week. You want a pizza review? I can't hear anybody when he goes crazy. Give me a pizza ass. Give me a pizza ass. I'll get you in a pizza review. It's just a week. It's just a week. How long of a flight is that? Like 48 hours? It was 14 hours from Newark. Who takes a – who does that for a week? In football season. Well, I mean, when you go to the other side of the world, you generally minimum two-week vacations. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I didn't. When are you back? Tuesday morning. I mean, everyone deserves vacation. I'm not – you go on vacation. Yeah. Enjoy your vacation. You knew that – I'm unlimited. You knew Pickham Rico was going to bring this up. 100%. Yeah. But this was booked before I was on Pickham, and once I – like this whole last week, I knew I was going to get fucking roasted for this. So then I'll – yeah, then you're good. You knew it was coming. Were you – were you – No, I mean, the first I fucking knew this was coming, I just got a touch from Mal. It was like, you're getting fucking roasted. Can you join the Zoom? So when you were – when you were in South Africa with the boys, you know, hanging out, going to the diamond mines and all that shit, were you like, oh, 6 o'clock on Wednesday night, like, that's going to be Pickham, and I'm going to have to – I'm going to have to be ready. Well, yeah, I had a call with Gaz actually at the same time, so I was like, I'm sure I'm just going to be getting fucking eviscerated while I'm on this fucking call, but – Hey, you deserve vacation. Yeah. Thank you. I just – I kind of knew I was going to get roasted, yes. Yeah. You find your girl Charlize yet, or what? I don't know what that means. Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron. South Africa. Read a book. South Africa. Isn't also my girl from there, Kansas Swainpool? Oh. When I think of my girl, I think of – Elon Musk from South Africa. Anna Chomsky. I thought you meant Anna Chomsky. Louis Deleuze. My girl. Anna Chomsky, my girl. Oh, the movie? Oh, unbelievable. said. Candice is from South Africa. Ooh, Candice is from South Africa? All right. Are you fucking Jackie? No, I have a girlfriend back in Chicago, and she's amazing, and I'm not fucking anybody. All right, shout out your girlfriend. You have a girlfriend, and you took a boy's trip to South Africa. Oh, my God. This is a book nine months ago. It's fucking beautiful. This has been nine months. Davey, look at you. You booked this nine months ago? Rico, fuck off for two fucking seconds. Davey, look at the views, Dave. It looks like a fucking screensaver. Look at how beautiful it is with the pals. Oh, man. It is funny. It is funny that you throw me under the bus after the July 4th. That's all you do, though. You took three fucking weeks off. You got a motherfucking MTA union card with how many people you run over the bus. Cocksucker, you hateful tweets. First of all, the lunch table thing wasn't me. The lunch table thing wasn't me. I didn't leave you off on purpose. All right, good tweet, Jackie. Glad they got internet in South Africa. Wait, what's the lunch table tweet? There was like a – we did one. Someone made a graphic from Barstool Gambling of like a choose your poker table and he wasn't on it. Oh, you guys. And Jerry was with you and Dave and he like immediately tweeted out, Smacky Jable is doing coke. Can't fucking – he leaves me off the graphic. Fuck this guy. And I'm like, I didn't even fucking make this thing. Malasek behind the booth right now probably made that. Yeah. Sorry, Malasek. I didn't mean to like throw it right there. No, no, you did. You got it. You got to survive right now. You're cornered. You have to survive. You have to survive. You have to survive. You have to find your way out of it. You're just shooting everyone. I mean, that is very classic Rigo to just be immediately like furious about that. I mean, of course. Like, he stays up at night with that shit. Yeah. All right. Well. Night, Terrence. Enjoy South Africa. Thanks. I will be back Tuesday. Okay. We're excited to see you back. We're not going to do any football until you get back. We'll pause it. We're going to pause the season. Yeah, we're going to pause the season. We're going to be tapping. We're going to be tapped into football. Okay. Okay. All right. See you, Jack. All right. Bye, guys. That was our South African correspondent, Jack McCarthy. What a world. Louie Usta, who is crazy. I think it's bananas to go to the other side of the world for one week. I thought that was a known rule. You need two weeks to do that. Yeah, you're not mad. You're not mad about the vacation. For 14 hours. Yeah. No, I am mad. It's crazy. After the Super Bowl, if you're traveling for 14 hours, it takes two weeks. It takes two to three days to just become normal again. And then you've got to jump on the plane and head right back home. 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All new Stell Blue coffee can lattes now available at stellbluecoffee.com. Or subscribe on Amazon for 10% off. Let's do some games. Let's start with Friday night. Oregon at Washington in Las Vegas. Oregon minus nine and a half. Over under 66 and a half. I'm trying to complete my flip that was a risky move after the Washington-Oregon game with my Oregon 25 to one ticket. I'll start. I think Oregon's. I think Oregon's going to smash Washington. I think they're going to smash them. I think Washington's been hanging by a thread for the last month and a half. Great season, great offense, incredible story. I just think Oregon's got this situation where they were so close the first time, they probably were the better team, but they lost by three. Left points on the board, dumb decisions. Yeah, they're going to go and they're going to be all business, and they've been crumpling teams, so I like Oregon in this game. Sometimes. Sometimes. Horse racing. You see this, I feel like, a lot. And then, like, you see a horse race, and there's a horse. It's like, win, win, win, win. It's like, hey, this horse has beaten that other horse. And then you look at the odds board, and the horse that's won is like five to one, and the horse that came in second and lost is like six to five. You're like, what the fuck? And everyone's like, well, if you look at the race, he was wide, and he got cut off. And then they run the race, and the five to one who keeps winning wins again. And you're like, wow, this horse just fucking wins. What am I, stupid? That's my philosophy on this game. I think Washington, who is getting no respect, just keeps finding ways to win football games. Very TCU-like. Very TCU. I think they're getting totally disrespected. I think they know what the line is. I think they know they've beaten this team already. And I'm taking Washington for the upset. But don't you think that's a crazy line, Dave, that they're trying to get people to bet Washington? Because nine and a half, they beat them the first time. Crazy. Yep. But it's like the horse race. I do agree with that. I think at a certain point, you just keep winning. I do think they give TCU type of vibes. Don't forget what they did. That Oregon State game, where everyone's like, oh, Oregon State's going to beat them at home. And all of a sudden, their defense showed up. That, to me, it's like, maybe there's a little amoeba to this team. I don't know. I don't know. I just think they're finding ways to win. I'm going to play the under in this one. I do think Oregon's defense has showed up a little bit more. I don't think it's going to be a track meet. And if you watch that first game, a lot of points, and they barely went over. I think it was 36-33 in terms of this number. Championship game. They did leave points on the board, like you said. They did leave points on the board. But I think Oregon's defense has played better now. I don't think Washington's offense is as elite. So I'm leaning under. The situation I was going to play out as well, too, is could you see a world where if Washington, Dave, loses this game by a fucking bull hair of three points, that they're not in over Ohio State? You don't think they have a more impressive? No. No. So you think Ohio State is a better team than Washington? No. Yes. But that's. You asked me, do I think the committee would put them in? No, I don't. Well, a million things would have to go right. Like Texas would have to lose. Bam would have to lose. No, I'm saying if it came down to losing a Washington team that lost versus Ohio State, they're going to put Ohio State. They love Ohio State. Yeah, I agree with that. There's nothing the world loves more. Which is bullshit to me because the only way. I don't know why I talk. I don't. You're right. No, you know what it is? It's the Zoom and the natural. You're right. I apologize. Please finish that. I'm sorry. No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Don't sulk. I'm good. Committee loves Ohio State. I forgot my turn of thought. You're good. We're good. Let's move on. It's a crazy thing to argue anyways because very unlikely, but there's zero chance a one-loss Washington team gets in over one-loss Ohio State. Yeah, Ohio State is weirdly in a, like, obviously they'd rather win that game against Michigan, but they're in not a bad position. The fact that, like, they obviously can't jump because they can't win a game, but they also can't. They can't go, like, much worse because they can't lose a game like Washington could lose a game. I thought they were more dead last year, to be honest, than I do, I think, there this year. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I fundamentally disagree with that, though, because the only reason Washington lost a game is because they got to the championship game, which Ohio State couldn't do. Didn't that happen last year, though? Yeah, you're talking about USC last year. That's what, well, USC, though, had two losses, no? No. That's different. I thought they lost to Utah and then lost to Utah again. Yeah, so that's their second loss. So, like, the argument was they shouldn't be an extra game. They got eliminated because they played an extra game and Ohio State did not. That was the whole thing with USC last year. Right. Right. You got it? Yeah. I mean, it's too awesome, but it's still an extra game. But if a team runs the table, yeah, yeah. If a team runs the table, they're defeated. Yeah, I get it. But that's literally what we're talking about because USC went to the Pac-12 championship. They went to the Pac-12 championship last year with one loss, and they lost the Pac-12 championship game, which they got to because they were better than Ohio State and got to their conference championship game, and then they were eliminated from the playoff, and Ohio State did nothing and got in. But that's my point, and this is wasting air because they're unlikely scenarios, but that is my point because I don't think you should be able to jump if you don't play, but that's my point. Like, why are they keeping Ohio State? Why are they keeping Ohio State ahead of these teams? Yeah. Because then they can still say, well, Texas won, but that's not good enough to jump Ohio State. Yeah. Okay. Before the next championship game, let me tell you about our friends at Manscaped. Manscaped's performance package, 5.0 Ultra, is the ultimate bundle for the man who deserves it all. Included in this special sack is the Lawnmower 5.0 Ultra, the Weed Whacker 2.0 Ear and Nose Trimmer, Manscaped's liquid formulations, and two free gifts. Starting with Santa's number one helper. 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championship game for a texas team the line i was shocked that's a lot of points i was shocked to see it's that high so it's the dance point why is this that high with oregon it seems like texas is the right side maybe i'm not no oregon oregon and washington played each other that was my point with that they played yeah but you and he's actually saying the line is begging you to take oklahoma state so it's a trap so take texas but he's taking oklahoma state i think that's what you're saying which side are you uh i'm taking oklahoma state but how did you seem because it seems like the line the line is so high it seems like why is it this high texas somebody knows something it's got to be texas like i'm a little worried backing oklahoma state i'm confused now no because he started he said the line is begging you to take texas because he thinks the lot he was surprised the yeah the surprise it was that big of a spread so they want you to take oklahoma state because they're begging you to take it by giving you that many points which means take texas so he's taking oklahoma state so he's falling into his own trap yeah i don't know about that i just i think 14 and a half in a championship game for a texas team who's looked very human since that alabama win for an oklahoma state team who's spunky why is this line 14 and a half i expected this line to be like six seven so yes you're saying exactly what i just said and that you responded i don't know about that and you're still taking yeah i'm still taking oklahoma state i'm still confused no i dan i'm right i have what's confusing you is he he is laying out a trap a very clear trap and then he is walking into the trap and it goes and he gets pulled into the tree in the bag it's been a while but he says like oh this is a trap as he's walking into it and he's like watch me walk into this trap correct why would you walk in a trap it's been a while since i walked in a trap you know tiger can't change his stripes i i i'm usually the trap guy i think i know now i was going to take oklahoma state i am now taking texas because he's saying what he's saying is what i thought i'm like oh that's a big line i think oklahoma state's gonna play this game very close that's what rico thought he's like what a trap this is they want me to take oklahoma state they're begging me to take oklahoma state took oklahoma state all right oh yeah fair i think that's what i think i gotta take texas too now i think texas is yeah i'm gonna take the line i'm gonna take the over for right now we'll see where this line goes i'm gonna take the over for right now i might 14 i would like it to be 14 you got it rico kind of it's a fucking tricky line man i don't i don't i don't know if it is no okay um is this your computer model that had it at six yeah yeah up here yeah uh okay i'm taking the over in this game so write that down for me uh next game georgia alabama awesome game can't wait for this game so excited uh i might have a game of the year i might have a game of the year boys i haven't decided yet but i might have a game of the year uh i'll just say well no i'll wait it'll be my motor lock but i i might have a game of the year which for people who know like i put a lot of money into my game of the year it means a lot it's i will fight tooth and nail for my game of the year i will get sick for my game of the year i will lay it all on the line for the people for my game of the year i'm going to take georgia though minus six that's not my game of the year but i'm taking georgia minus six uh dave to the over the over is going to be my game of the year i haven't decided yet that's what i was doing excuse me i'm gonna take um georgia in the over i mean one of the great and by the way i don't love georgia uh i don't know what to make what just happened alabama i know this i don't like the quarterback you don't suddenly grow up i was talking to the boys like he's like no he's good that man pins a delusional he's not a good quarterback um he's they're gonna struggle i think i'll take georgia uh i but that yeah i'll take georgia i'll take georgia and the old the most important thing for my game of the year is i got to figure out what i'm i have to clear my whole schedule okay you have georgia in the over yes i'll run into christmas parties i just yeah i gotta you it means a lot when i put a game of the year i don't i don't just didn't you have what was the famous what was the story you lost the game of the year and then you had to go to a fucking christmas party or something yeah that was that was two years ago talking to you yeah i just like georgia yeah and like that was georgia i left that hurt and you were yeah but then i got i got revenge on georgia in national championship game of the year but yeah no the last i haven't done a game of the year i think since uh since bill baylor no since baylor byu and uh i got sick for like two weeks after that because i put everything on the line i would stayed up to like two in the morning trying to fight for that over uh okay so wait what's your pick rico i'm gonna take georgia okay um all right next game michigan iowa michigan iowa hardball back what what the the team total is half a point for the first half i was team unbelievable yeah i kind of want to take it by the way i finally got in the hardball circle of trust let's go you got his number i got i got the uh facetime at the end of the half of the game yes nice he's the best he's the best dude ever but if not through him it's through his daughter oh yeah grace hardball shout out grace hardball um i'll take michigan who knows this is like one of those things everyone's like you're going to the game it's like no i'm not going to the game i gotta get ready for the rose bowl which is probably we're gonna be um it's the worst big 10 that i mean it's a shitty game dummy i i i don't want it's one of those things again i like don't want anybody to play i you know this is one of those horrible situations just rooting um against injury again i'd like to give i think jj mccarthy was probably uh uh banged up a little bit the the last two weeks because he was fucking awesome he was awesome he was um i'm gonna take michigan minus 23 and a half here uh solely because what do you guys think of uh and i know georgia is playing alabama i still think it's kind of stunning that michigan is like the clear favorite for national title are they i think they're plus 180 ahead of georgia yeah because i think they think they think they have to they can't yeah that makes sense georgia can lose to alabama yeah that makes that's gonna flip though that's gonna flip once you think if yeah yeah i like i i think if georgia play michigan georgia is still like uh four to five point favorite yeah if you if you like georgia to beat alabama you should just take them to win the national title right right yeah um i think i think michigan's gonna kill him minus 23 and a half because uh i actually would be weirdly if harbaugh had coached the last three weeks i might bet iowa because michigan like they've won the big 10 title the last two years there might be a little bit of a difference where it's like all right now our sights are on we got to win a playoff game so it's like obviously it's a championship game but not show everything i think harbaugh being back Like, he's going to pulverize them. He's going to want to make a point. He's going to want to be like, fuck all of you. Like, this conference suspended me for three games. Iowa's not scoring. We're going to score 40. This is going to be a blowout. Yeah. Most likely, if Oregon wins, we're looking at a pseudo-Rose Bowl playoff game. I love that. You've never been to the Rose Bowl, right, Dave? No. It's the best. No, I booked my hotel already. I'm all set to go. It's the best. I get fucked, I guess, if Georgia loses, then Michigan's won, and we go, although we go New Orleans, and I'd just be stuck with Oto. Yeah, you could just flip it. Yeah. But it would suck because we're in Arizona, so it's a lot worse. Yeah. All right. So you have Michigan as well, Dave? Yeah, I mean, obviously. Yeah, I get everything you're saying about Halliburton pulverizing them, and that makes a lot of sense. But I also think, to Dave's point, he's like, he just said it. From a fan base, like, don't get hurt. Don't show them anything as well. I don't think – I think they were going to hold the playbook. I love, by the way, clap Michigan coaching staff, Sean Moore, whatever. The conservative nature of what they did the two weeks before Ohio State, they came out throwing – listen, this team can win the national championship. We have to win a playoff game. But if the quarterback plays like the quarterback plays, they can win national title. This guy, he makes plays. And even when they lost, they had a couple quirky things. This kid is a big game quarterback. Yeah. But I think they're not going to show much. And Eileen – because I do think it's Iowa's Super Bowl. I think Eileen, Iowa plus 23-and-a-half. I think Michigan could give a shitty – like, oh, I'm sorry. I think Michigan could give a half-ass effort and still beat them. And then Iowa just gets within the number, and Michigan doesn't show enough. And they're content winning 20-3 without any – How does Iowa – How does Iowa score? How does Iowa score? Yeah, I know. Fuck it. No, no, no, no, no. Stay with it. Stay with it. No, I mean, you're right. 23, you're right. You're right. No, I know. I was that bad. It was just a question, Rico. I shouldn't change your pick. They – 21-0. They can't score. Yeah, 21-0 works. You cover. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just going to go Iowa. Do it. I think Iowa should actually – you say how should they score? I think they should completely change the offense and go fucking – five wide at all times. Like, why the fuck not? They haven't game planned for it. Throw some kind of curveball out there. Forens is leaving anyway. You should play – you should do the fucking oop-de-oop half the fucking time. They should just punt on first down and try to get good field position. That too. Like, if no one's batting for Michigan, you just bomb like an 80-yard punt and just be like, let's just try to get a turnover. Okay. Last game, Florida State, Louisville. Saturday night, Florida State's minus two and a half overrunners. Forty-seven and a half. I went to sleep because I was starting to get sick on Saturday after Michigan-Ohio State. The way I lost that Florida game sucked so bad. I don't know if you guys saw it. There was like a roughing penalty that was like a third and 17. It was one of those situations where Florida was in the numbers. I assume that I lost because I had Florida in the over and was a dumb loser. Yeah, Florida was in the number the whole game. It was like 15-0 or something. Yeah, it was third and 17 or something with like three minutes left. In completion, called a roughing the passer. Then Florida State just goes and runs it in like a few plays later. It was just like there was no – even if they had gotten a first down there without the – like it was just sucked. The whole thing sucked. We should have won that game. Rico, I'll start with you. You're the ACC guy. Yeah, I'm going to take Louisville. I just think like this whole nightmare scenario, like somebody's going to lose. Texas a 14-point favorite, so they probably win. I really don't want Florida State in the playoff anymore because I think they're a sacrifice. They're a sacrificial lamb. If they win out, they deserve to get in. But what are they going to be, a 12-point – you know. I didn't watch any of that game. I was the back of the quarterback. Okay, or somebody called in yesterday and said he was horrible. I'll be honest, I didn't watch much either. That's progress. That's progress. You were ready to answer that, and you didn't. Yeah. That is huge, Rico. I am leaning here Louisville. Louisville. I'm going to take Louisville. Plus two and a half means you think they win the game out. I'm taking Florida State as well. I think this is going to be the trendy everyone's like Louisville's going to win. I think Florida State's going to win this game. I do. I mean, I think they have a good – they're – obviously, Jordan Travis being out is fucking enormous, but they're still a good team. It's a rally game, I feel like. Yeah. It's a rally game. Florida was too, but I feel like this is, you know, rally the troops. And I don't think Louisville's that great, so I think they figure out a way to win. Yeah. Yeah. I like Florida State. All right. Rest of cards. Do we have anything else you guys want on – Miami plus seven and a half against Toledo. Yeah. UNLV plus two and a half against Boise. People kept making fun of me about UNLV in Michigan. It's not so funny when they win the whole conference. Not so funny now. Yeah. Who's laughing now? Is that it? Yep. Rico, anything else on your card? Yeah. I'll just read it off. Oklahoma State plus 14 and a half. I'm going to take Boise actually minus the two and a half. They fucking fire the coach and they'll still win the conference. Like, I was ready to knock – credit to Boise. Boise minus the two and a half. I do think UNLV's a good team, though. SMU Tulane over 47 and a half. Louisville plus the two and a half. Iowa plus the 23 and a half. Oregon, Washington under 66 and a half. And I will make Georgia minus six my lock of the week. All right. My only ad for right now is, New Mexico State plus 10 and a half. And then everything we talked about, I'll probably end up playing every single game. Standings, by the way. Dave has got 53%. Rico, 51.8%. I've dipped back down below 500. I was battling diarrhea on Saturday. That's not fair. 49 and a half percent. And then Bob Diaco standing. Zupi still in first place. Seven and five. I'm seven, six, and one in the second. I'm also ineligible to win because of the Auburn, New Mexico State disaster. Jack at seven and six. Hank at seven and six. Ebo at seven and six. Dave at seven and seven. Liam at six and six. Rico at six and eight. So it's tight. It's tight. Damn, we suck. I started one and fucking seven. Yeah. All right. My mortal, I'm going to do Miami of Ohio plus seven and a half against Toledo. Okay. My mortal is going to be the over 53 and a half. Georgia, Alabama might be a game of the year. I'll let everyone know if I'm going to unload the game of the year there. Ebo. Okay. Malasek, you get to pick instead of South Africa boy. Florida State. Also, fuck Malasek, by the way. He had everyone in this office and everyone online being like, Virginia can beat Virginia Tech. They were never even close to in that game. That was a game that I like missed the kickoff and I looked at it. It was four minutes in. It was like, that's a loser. He fucked up. You fucked up bad. Fucked up. Fucked up real bad. Wait, so what was your last date? Florida State. Zupi. Georgia. Georgia. Minus six. Hank. Got to ride with the game of the year. That's what I do on the show. Over. Liam. You're a real motherfucker. Oh, Liam's not on. Okay. We'll get Liam's pick later. Austin, you want to do a pick? Dave just leaves. Nope. I'm going back. I don't want to talk to you guys. All right. See you, Dave. All right. We'll see everyone. So no pick them next week and then bowl season pick them. Bowl week. Live. All be together for the final finale of pick them. All right. All right. Thanks. Thanks, everyone, for listening.