2023 CFB Pick Em Bowl Special

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All right, now back to the episode. Pick'em, season finale. Bowl season. How we doing, boys? Everyone's here in person. We're here for the finale. We're here for the finale of Barstool, or surviving Barstool. I don't know if we have the camera. There's an extra person in this room. It's Dave, Rico, Hank, and then we have someone sitting in a chair here. I don't know if you can show them. Can we show them? You're showing them? Okay. Liam's holding the camera. Oh, Liam's got the camera. Yeah. Benjamin Mintz in a dunce hat. Yeah. By the time this airs, he spoiled the second to last. What do they call that? The. The. Penultimate. Penultimate. Surviving Barstool. He just went on Wake Up with Mintzy and just said who the final three. Twice. Twice. Just. I haven't been that. It was one of those moments, like it. I really caught wind of what happened maybe a minute and a half before I was walking into the office, so I was furious. We've talked about it before, though. When I have to text you and be like, we got a problem, it's the worst because. I mean, I. I just don't know what's going to happen after that. There's a lot of people in the bullpen going towards the out, like the railing. Mintzy scurried to look over and we backed the fuck away. It was like. Mintzy had just. Once he fucked up, he grabbed his backpack and just ran away. Literally. Literally ran away. So he wasn't here. I can't believe he was on air without a dump button. Like, I thought that was crystal clear that he is too stupid to do live programming ever again without a dump button. I heard it. It was. Just ripped him apart. I actually apologize on the way because I. I couldn't tell the dump button what we figured out. First, he's like, yeah, we have a dump button, but no one was paying attention to what he was saying because it was too busy setting up for Surviving Barstool. It's like, well, how dumb are you to let this guy. He's done 12 Wake Up With Mintzys. 12. He's had two international incidents in 12. So, like, the guy. 17%, he said. Yeah. He can't. He can't go. So, like, you can't let him go. You can't. So, it's like, well, what's the point of a dump button if you're not going to pay attention? Turns out we didn't even have a dump button for his setup. Which I take a little blame. I thought we had one, too. That's on you. That's on you, Wayne. Yeah, no, I thought we had one. I absolutely thought we had one. It was crystal clear. Wake Up With Mintzys never comes back until we have a dump button because he is incapable of going freelance. He can't make it more than two episodes without something major. So, I was. He's killing Stefan. It's not set up. Wake Up With Mintzys is once again canceled until or postponed indefinitely until there's a dump button. He did point out that it's a shame because they had a lot of momentum. They had a lot. Yeah, 12. They had a lot of momentum. And then I'm like, didn't you do radio on ESPN? He's like, I never had an issue. Yeah, they have a dump button. Yeah, no, I was saying, like, there's a chance that. He's talking to air. Yeah, Mintzys did three hours of radio every day and just all of it was dumped. And he just walked out and was like, I crushed that. And the producers. The producers are like, whew, dodged another one. So, he's just. Today, he's. I mean, I haven't yelled at Mintzys even when he did his last one. I mean, I was doubly mad he wasn't here. I screamed at. I haven't been that mad in a long time. And I think in this office, it's like the Happy Dan Club. Like, you're a more cheery guy. People haven't, like. No. People were. That's true. It brings me back. Talking. Energy. No, people were diving around. I told you. Everyone was kind of going. I was going towards the railing. Like, ooh, let me look at, like, here's the shark. He's about to eat somebody. Everybody's like, uh-oh. He's fucking, like. No, it was like an old Western movie where, like, the big bad bow comes back into town and people are just diving into saloons. Home all coming. Home all coming. Getting underneath their beds and being like, oh, no. We got to get out of here. He's back. Megan making money has the least situational game awareness of any human I've ever fucking met. I came in and she's in the lobby. She's got some fucking sandwich. It looks like gruel. She's like, hey, you want a sandwich? I was like, no. I was storming around in circles trying to find Mincy, trying to find tech people. Couldn't find. There. I think there was literal steam coming out of my ears. I screamed at, like, two people. I come back around. She's like, you sure you don't want this sandwich? I was like, shut up! Like, wake up and see. Like, read the room, Megan making money. Her defense was very good. It was very good. Like, I will say, and we said about Mincy, it's like. It's hard. It's like a Dukes. It's like, what are you. He's so lovable. Like, what are you going to do when someone's like, I'm just so stupid? It's like, there's nothing more to yell. It's just. It really sucks to. Hopefully, it didn't get as widespread, how many people. Our problem with our crowd is they. People are jerks. They revel in spoiling it. Yeah, they're going to intentionally go out of their way. So, you know, we've made it this whole season. It's almost like a storyline, because even when I was in New York with. KFC, with Barstool Radio, I was like, do not talk about it. You're going to spoil it. It's impossible not to spoil. So, I've been very scared of that. Yeah, we haven't talked about it at all on the act. All because it's so hard. Well, because you say something, and then you accidentally say, like, oh, this person's been around all week. Yeah, right. And so, those are. Those suck. Those are spoilers. People can figure to do some things. Mincy, God love him. He, like. That was the most efficient spoiling I've ever seen in my life. He just went straight to it. He's like, hey, here's why. That's what I'm spoiling, and it's here. I think these three know. I know these three are in the finals tonight. I don't know. Actually, no, I do know. Yeah, it wasn't like. Because, you know, there's been a couple times where people are like, oh, yeah, Stephen Che was getting followed around all week or something like that. And people are like, oh, well, clearly he's around all week. Mincy was just like, I don't know if you want this spoiler, but I'm giving it to you. I'm shoving it down your face. Like, just like. With no answer. Stuffing. Did you watch the episode last night? He's like, no, I didn't know where they were at. We've got to make a. You don't even know. He's just so dumb. We've got to make the meme where it's Kevin from The Office, and it's Michael Scott. Michael Scott is Mincy, and the broccoli is a spoiler, and he's just shoving it in our fucking audience's face. He's like, you're going to eat this. There's nothing you can do about it. And then, like, literally, people. This was written in pure anger. Oh, yeah. Have it pulled up. I thought the whole thing was going to be all caps. You only did the cap with the. Yeah, like. I thought the body was going to be caps. This was at 9.45. 4 a.m. in the heat of me still being as mad as I could be. All caps, subject line. Ben Mintz is too dumb to ever be live without a minute-delayed dump button. I can't believe I have to write this since it's already crystal clear, but Ben Mintz cannot be on any program live ever without people paying attention and having a minute-delayed dump button. If he doesn't have it, then he can't be on any live programming because he is too dumb. This is not a joke. And I told Mincy from now on, anything he's on, he has to sit. Before he opens his mouth. Well, is there a dump button? If someone says no, he gets his fat ass up and walks off. He can't be on anything that doesn't have a dump button. He's incapable. He's so stupid. He's so vulnerable. I likened it to everyone knows there's one kid in the family who just fucks up, but you know it's mom's favorite and there's nothing they can do. The other kid's a doctor. The other kid's a lawyer. And then this one kid, he's just doing a. wake-up show and just having problems all the time. It's like, buddy, I love him. When you weren't there. in the office he's like it's been six months since the last screw up yeah but uh two days since you brought back wake up mitzvah you haven't done content he's got to start act three i said it to him act one was 40 years act two was six months now it's time for act three it's crazy and he is a little got a little rain man in him because it like when you were doing the math he corrected you on the perfect math of like the 17 percent i said no he goes 16.6 yeah no he goes no i literally said i was like because i was just doing in my head i was like oh yeah two out of 12 like that's like 10 he just is like actually it's 17 it's just poker it's dustin wapner doesn't know right from wrong but he has that math he's got a goldfish swimming around in his head but he does have that math thing it is like the office too and just went like a runaway runaway train yeah he sprinted he just went to the railroad it was like i'm getting out of here when i called him i'm like where'd you was like he said it's we have it i think on it was being recorded like i ran away and he just ran apparently full speed because it took him forever to force gump like worm and rounders we gotta get the fucking yeah in the parking lot like let's go oh man so that was a twist to start the morning wasn't expecting that no in those are there's been a couple times in barstool where things hit right at the time to get me like as mad as i can be because i haven't had time to digest it so it's like i literally we were pulling in the parking lot when i found it and i was like oh my god and i was just enraged mincy mincy mincy mincy all right so twice twice twice and it was so again it was the most efficient spoiler ever it wasn't like oh i'm gonna spoil it or like turn off if you haven't watched he's like hey here's the here's the final three maybe it's the final three no this is the final yeah yeah yeah he almost opened it up for like a non-spoiler but all three and by the way did you watch last episode so you know where they're at no he did not so i don't know like in what world he thought he that's that's him he's just there's nothing going on up there oh all right so uh yeah that's the start of it um we're all here it's the finale of pick them how's everyone feeling how's everyone doing gambling wise we have um not great dave you you're closing in on your second pat hill trophy yep which would be uh so you and i would be both two-time winners is it like even well it's bowl season i would have to get i'd have to go in i don't think i can catch you actually i think i need you to get really cold and i gotta get hot yeah dave's at 54 percent 179 yeah big that yeah it is gain yeah much i'd almost like started horrifically so yeah well i'm gonna play every bowl game so if i win every bowl game i guess i'd have a chance i don't even know that you would it would i'd have to be like side and total every bowl and then like 60 you know i'd still probably have to go yeah um rico 73 and 71 50.7 and i am exactly on the dot which is pretty insane 285 and 285 diaco's wide open diaco is wide open yeah diaco is wide i wish i didn't start so bad i'd be in it diaco has uh ebo at eight and six uh jack mccarthy at eight and six zupi at seven and six david at eight and seven that's gonna be should we do one more to lock for bowls and then one more to lock for the semi-final like that's the way you've done it in the past yeah or two mortal locks yeah or yeah and we may have to do a bonus right because what if there's a lot of yeah we might have to do the national championship game championship game yeah i like that yeah uh hey pick them listeners we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners cozy season is upon us bombas makes your comfiest fall staples so you could make the most out of one of the best seasons of the year bombas new suede moccasins are perfect for fall with cushy soles a shirling lining and water resistance suede plus for every item you purchase bombas donates an essential clothing item to someone phasing housing insecurity head over to bombas.com slash audio and use code audio for 20 off your first purchase that's b-o-m-b-a-s.com slash audio code audio at checkout all right now back to the episode how's everyone doing rico how you feeling good i think uh apology is in order um um me being the guy to do it like when you get a little out of hand like and you start to roll like i i'm not the guy who should then be pounding a guy like that and taking a joke too far uh and that's what i did to jack and you know i know he doesn't really want to hear it or have time with it but wait here's a little context i was walking around after i came downstairs like 45 minutes before we recorded and rico was just chasing jack being like give me 30 seconds give me 30 seconds i was like i'm not talking to you i'm not talking to you i'm not talking yeah friendship means a lot i have said the hardest working guys is one of the guys i love here the well mine is south africa football fair uh so yeah it got it got a little out of control it's what do you i don't i'm i'm i'm very lost i thought you were gonna say something about che but that's wrong you're saying on that what are we talking about yeah that just it just piling on and piling on it's an unfair thing to say wait you're not on zoopy's gotta turn you on it has nothing to do with south africa it's mostly the entire internet thinking i'm a massive cocaine right an addict and i thought you're gonna say sorry that zoopy and malice wrote the song i also agree with that wait and just so just i don't know we got to get the other mics on just to clarify jack is not a massive cocaine yeah he does do coke see that's how things get out of control i think it's kb got kicked out of a hotel for stashing coke fair vegas people have said i'm a coke head that's been like right one of the number one things on me coke and i i'm not a coke i'm very much i mean i'm old now and i have kids so my partying days are over but i loved the smell of cocaine back in the day i'm also on the record saying if you've never been at a part of coke you're a loser that's true right yeah what's that that's a fact yeah yeah jack's been a lot of them loser who you've never been at a party with coke no that's not true oh well well you and jack don't hang out socially we can't hear dick i don't know why they can't well zoopy's not usually the one who's sitting there it's usually memes sitting there yeah i mean i'm turning them on and it's just not working i don't know what's going on but what the hell go get memes go grab memes he can do it it's snowballed it's it's no hank can do it well like stranger wait that's a joke though so i think wait but wait uh no it's not you snowballed yeah i call in my phone kb is this is kb like coke swag yeah i don't know it's just the whole internet's coming for him that's the most i felt yeah forgotten story he literally got kicked out of his hotel in yes vegas wait so you're apologizing and you're done that's what you're apologizing for for all the things that's the first formal apology yeah that was like a very serious apology for presidencies and as for that joke you've done far more hideous things than that all your other apologies all your other apologies were like forced out of you where it's like oh something really bad came to light and now i have to apologize you just willingly apologized for a coke joke and took like a deep breath before yeah yeah that's crazy people can change that was a tom brenneman i want to get in front of it yeah it's our friendship means a lot he's very upset at me i'm not very upset relax so wait so just actually what hanukkah and it's hanukkah yes you're right i did say it's literally christmas it's coming up literally yes i did fight a lot of battles right now rika i agree it's literally hanukkah yes literally yes joey yanks so it's not it's not joey yanks suggested and down the road and then it's hanukkah now it is hanukkah and joey kanks suggested a yale blue color way for that harvard clown shirt but i heard yale is a little like fugazi too all those ivy league schools there so wait so no more coke jokes uh not for me no the coke jokes can stay i would prefer if riko doesn't tweet photos of me where he's like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so i may be under the influence of coke not well in fairness that was a black friday promo of a highlight video matter bro yeah that's fair no it's not it said support our producers these guys work hard our biggest party animal and it was a highlight reel of jack no it was a straight photo of me all right so so you're gonna slow down on the coke jokes but jack you're gonna keep doing coke no i have no problem with our employees doing coke as long as they don't do it during business and they probably still are around here who fucking knows mincy sober california's over minus we good jack mincy's sorry bro mincy's sober i went to i went to a uh dead concert with him a couple years ago and someone in our suite uh offered up mushrooms and mincy like tripped over everyone trying to grab him but he's sober he only does shrooms and weed sober we good jack i mean not really yeah oh man we gotta rebuild i gotta live in that world okay is this still soft for the no there you can hear him now all right speak again hello hello check check check so um i reached out to smacky jables he will be turning the content down as well i like him i mean it's kind of i also think it's bullshit yeah it happens what it happens what are you gonna do all right also give credit about that song well we were about that i mean oh you didn't write that song i wish we had the footage and he doesn't credit people that's what you should apologize for apologize to zoopy and malicek and eba we're we're you should apologize for that bowling before i say a couple lines they say a couple lines how many lines we'll do it together and then no one else sang with me how many lines did you give evo how many lines did rico give uh i actually i didn't he wasn't there i was it was mouse zupi can answer how many lines did he give zupi uh i how many lines did rico yeah did he create like when we're doing song credits and we're gonna because obviously we're gonna put this on spotify and it's gonna be like at some point we're gonna have to there's gonna be royalty that we got to pay out who gets the credit so rico came in to the zoom singing africa he was singing the song and then me and malicek just started riffing a little bit on the lines malicek gave the uh my credit card has cocaine residue line yeah and then i gave the honey what's it gonna take to make that check mark blue line okay so we got zero bangers zero lines that's what you should apologize well you're gonna eat jack from like your family or something what do you care i mean i i don't love that my mom thinks i'm a coke head but yes it's show business i honestly don't really mind too much it's just the outside world but i also i'm more mad about rico taking a funny song from somebody else and playing it off on his own yeah you got to give credit right that was someone else's song i feel like hesh because that was a banger yeah it was apologize but also i didn't demand an apology i want that on record that's crazy i i willingly did it was a weird okay that's how much i mean this is this is where your heartfelt apology came in an un an unforced heartfelt apology which you've never given i'm a fucked up guy but yeah i'm like you've done you have done i was a fucked up you have committed war crimes yes i was a fucked up and never apologized i was a fucked up guy it's like it'd be like hitler apologizing for jaywalking yeah like but sincerely like i'm so sorry let everyone know yeah i didn't have the i didn't have the little white walk light like when you start there i have to really like getting choked up with the deep like the the jack mack coat jokes like well jesus i had no idea where that was going because if you let that go then who knows what's next i'm trying to stay on that okay path of righteousness what uh so what's going on in the college basketball world rico what's the content we got coming up you're going to creighton alabama i'm going to my christmas present i'm going to bama creighton and then driving three hours and then i'm going to to uh manhattan kansas oh nice what what time is the bama creighton game 7 30 shout out john rothstein he had that yeah he did he did he had the time remember the game yeah yeah there's a controversy yeah he didn't have the dommer glasses i don't know if i like i like to look a lot i don't know it makes you a little scared he looks he looks artsy yeah it is dommer uh so yeah to give us a little college basketball what's coming up we got bosco and one back yeah we're gonna try and get uh trying to get fanta before the holidays and then we got to try and hit the pavement with uh with the guests here and there so but i think just doing it on youtube with its own thing might not work i might just double it up with healthy debate what do you mean so like why get why spread out your takes i agree with on your own youtube like get the guests on healthy debate you know i know a lot of college basketball people in the industry uh talk to them coaches whatever like you know they might not want to be live but whatever you tape it you figure it out and then uh we go that way we have dumb buttons now 40 minutes of 40 minutes of hell you know tuesdays or tuesdays and thursdays or tuesdays and thursdays college basketball related calls heavily so okay i'll focus in all the opinions and wait 40 minutes hell is on healthy debate yes i like that's like the segment part yeah yeah i like most of the calls like right from the get-go with college basketball guys anyway right people want to talk college basketball with me i like that and dave was right you know you don't need 52 different things in a podcast like make it work this seems like it's working people like calling you can interact live instead of just a voicemail so you know listen to the coach yeah run the play i like that um i'm a set to the corner what hey pick them listeners we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners this one's brought to you by tick pick ever actually read a ticket receipt service fee processing fee convenience fee convenient for who that's an extra 30 bucks a ticket tick pick doesn't do that never has never will no fees means the exact same seat same section of the room no fees means the exact same seat same section of the room no fees means the same section same row costs less on tick pick fans trust tick pick for all their live events check the reviews yourself so why overpay for the exact same seat download the tick pick app and never pay another service fee again and for new tick pick customers take 20 off your first order with promo code pmt20 in the tick pick app terms apply that's pmt20 at checkout for 20 off your first order all right now back to the episode i just had your meeting about contracts uh i don't want to make you do it here i'm just asking no i think he's got a lot going on if he declines dinner uh when are we when is when are you thinking dinner five today yeah okay back out 7 15 tomorrow healthy debate goes three to four local here i think we have to be back by 6 30 yeah i don't think we they want us to watch the finale i don't know why we have to watch the finale so maybe we can yeah like they maybe to react to it but what would we react on the yeah it's a little no no but so it's like fresh in our oh yeah okay all right when we go live after yeah yeah it's a little tight yeah that's that's a we can we can we can i we can probably do that i was gonna get a haircut i can skip that yeah let's just do a meeting yeah but i mean it's very rare he wants to go to dinner so that's a true true other sign of righteousness what oh yeah i was a i was a dickhead no you didn't want to be seen with me no no no no yeah you missed what that was go ahead go ahead the way you phrase that is very rare that i want to go out to dinner you want to go to dinner and i said okay yes right dave wasn't like hey willing is very maybe maybe replace the word wants to willing yeah he's tolerating right accurate dinner hey for a long time hey dave you want to go to dinner fuck no rather die we went to dinner didn't we go yeah yeah yeah but that was when i was light on the drugs then i really yeah so yeah i'm fine with you saying that i'm fine with you saying it's very rare that is willing to go to dinner not very right it wants to agree there like if you're like no and most of that is self-inflicted i agree yeah definitely well i'm excited for it i think it will go well yeah it's been a good it's been a good rehabilitation year it's been good i i have thoughts on in the dinner i guess we'll talk about it i i don't know how the dinner is oh i honestly don't why because i don't know what's going on in his head i never do i don't like that no i don't like that either yeah why not yeah positive i it could be what do you think it's gonna be an ambush what no i think sometimes you're delulu as the kids say delulu i will that's what they kids say now i fucking love that uh yeah i think i was but i think you'll be impressed with the opening monologue i like that you have notes and then i no when you say notes well have i driven around my car you said monologue yeah when i've driven have i driven around in my car and rehearsed it or practiced it because you get in the room with with the gladiator you can get rattled uh so i'm not coming at this like a it won't be a position of like um i'm not trying to instigate or or right i just think it's not i think it's not a position of like um i'm not trying to instigate a very civil conversation not limited to you i think there's just an overall sense of delusion amongst our company company-wide yeah the delulu is high yeah i also think i've botched every kind of every one of these conversations in the past so i can vow that i will not go in only trying to hit fastballs right like if i think i'm just gonna or out muscle everybody like uh remember the titans you can't run past everybody in this league so i feel like that's an admission that you might not have leverage well well it's just good he should know that because that is more rational and i would also say like uh the number one and this isn't necessarily a rico thing but it's a company-wide thing is people want to eat before they're ready to totally eat like we all i feel like we're fair here but it's like it just doesn't automatically happen but i i think don't think you're gonna be like when i say where i'm at i don't think you're gonna be like insulted at all like you're in the best place this conversation i'm happy to have it where in years past i felt like you were very lucky to even be here yeah i mean i went in with a horrific attitude correct of comparisons and right yes so delusional different things like and our relationship on little things like that and even like just shifting in your is shifting in your benefit now where it's like we're starting to get the process where you'll be treated like a rational adult even though you're not but like you've had a good especially i would say second half of the year yeah it's like you're going into it knowing that you're maybe not talking to rico bosco maybe you're talking a little bit to the team man yeah a little bit yeah yeah which is a good thing i would assume yeah yeah yeah and i always wanted to have like i said i think you know the the comparison or the statements dave's the fairest you've said that a million other people 100 is i haven't experienced that and that's on my own accord because when you go in and you got the guy in a stranglehold how do you expect them to be fair yeah so i am now excited to see fair dave who had who in a stranglehold i had you in a stranglehold like the way i approached it what i don't think you did no okay i think you had yourself in a stranglehold right and i was you're like dave look at this stranglehold i have no yeah there's i have no air going to my my brain the oxygen well yeah yeah i was in a right i don't know i was in a sand trap and or uh what are those things quicksand quicksand and just tried instead of trying to help out i was just dragging people in so yeah i'm excited for fair dave i think dave should be excited for non-dalulu rico should be a great meeting fair dave is is is great i remember i tell everyone when everyone's like he asked me like oh yeah like how does it work with you know bars was like the first i think maybe the first year or the second year like come christmas time i was like i had a number in my head dave just called me and i was like oh yeah i'm excited for fair dave i think dave should be excited for fair dave he called me he's like you're crushing it and he just said the number first it was bigger i was like all right that's awesome so yeah what are you gonna eat oh yeah you gotta eat something light dave's pick yeah you gotta eat something we gotta be probably close to the office we'll have to have someone pick a place for us this is there's some really good places right around here whatever yeah whatever okay i'm excited for this you know we might have some wrecks oh oh i forgot he was here mincey and mcdonald's i'm excited for this mincey and mcdonald's i'm excited for this you know we might have some wrecks oh oh i forgot he was here mincey and mcdonald's any recommendations for dinner okay diego no i'm not okay all right all right all right okay okay okay sushi coal-fired pizza oh coal-fired pizza we could do that white whatever you want no i'm not gonna do pizza i do pizza every day fair that's picture of the boxes yeah you're in your car it's insane people think it's easy it ain't we go we go on six seven hour journeys have you ever thought about just doing one bite yeah um all right well i'm excited for it i also rico we're not doing it here which is good that's a that's growth by me i think that's fair yeah i've asked no i yeah no i i appreciate set the tone off for the luluness to luluness yeah i mean i know it's it was very incredible content but this is now real life so yeah um okay uh let me take let me do one more thing i'm gonna do one more ad and then we'll maybe start talking games i'll just do it here you want to do it right now this is a joke oh i was right and there's nothing i want more i'm i'm respecting you i there's literally nothing i want more in life than for us to do this right now but i'm being i'm trying to grow myself and and not have it be give us all right give us a tease the opening monologue no just give us like uh no is it is it like luca brazzi is it like uh hello dave i got one day of your of your wife of your of your daughter's wedding i hope your son the masculine son i got one shot i'm gonna say this i'm pretty confident your monologue has absolutely no effect on on what the rest of the conversation he's mad at vincy for laughing uh the model because you yes the monologue doesn't change like the body of work or anything it it but what if he crushes it the monologue yeah what if it's like that what if it's a what's what if it's a 10 bump mom monologue you don't know you don't know till you know i you know what i will i'm gonna do that right now i'm gonna write what i think is the number do you know his number i do not i'm gonna write what i think it is okay and we'll we'll check back we'll check back yeah just give us the first line of the monologue hello dave thank you for for taking me out to dinner are you gonna pay i yeah i'll pay oh i think that's what he's probably i think that's what he's gonna ask for oh that's a spicy meatball i think that's what he's gonna ask for it's a spicy meatball check back i don't think he's gonna i'll tell you what i think he's gonna ask for we're not doing this right now he's trying to he's watching like what's written he's trying to he saw the first number i wrote i think that's what he's gonna ask for and that would be reasonable ish where where where we're far apart yeah yeah yeah really who's higher no no no there's a delulu number and there's a t-man number we're not saying unless you want to give us a monologue if you want to do it now might as well do it now i think it's no i like i said i'm excited for rational dave fair dave why you want me to text you want to text me what you number you have i could tell you which one was closer i just want to know who's high so i know what he can tell us i want to know i'm not going to tell you and you if you ask me after i'm not going to tell you i want to know who i'm going into the box you asked you right now what's it matter we're both saying what we think you're going to ask right he's going to ask you 300 times before dinner yeah i'm not going to say it because i don't want you like you got a number in your head yeah what does it start with i will say this oh tony's out for at least three months he got a bag so if you got a guy working around the clock i don't know i'm lost do you want like an otani deal where you get paid like 20 bucks a month a year like 20 27 might as well just do it now that is a part of that is a bullet point but i don't know if i'm gonna get to that bullet why don't you just say the number we'll bleep it you want to do the future point i don't know if i'm gonna get to that point i don't know if i'm gonna get to like no no no it's a complicated years it's a complicated year you could say the number we could factor for you or i just want we could say the number we could bleep it and you could get dave's reaction no okay because i think it all affects i well it doesn't though because i think i think dave has a number in his head i don't think anything that was his point about the monologue i don't think anything right right that is said is going to change what no no i don't think it's it's not one of those things where i i don't think it's going to change the number as well it's more of a things that need to be said i don't think it's going to change the number as well it's more of a monologue i think you've said everything you're going to say if i had to guess the monologue is going to be a decent amount of regret for the last three presidencies with like you know now healthy debate i i'm no longer on drugs i see the future type that i think don't forget the the there's gonna be a lot of analogies to sports oh yeah like i was i thought i was a starter then i had to take a bench spot now i know i gotta pass i'm not trying to shoot his much it's content it is it is incredible content yeah i don't think there's much moving off of your number either way so right right that's the thing i do want the dinner though and the dinner would actually be nicer maybe a celebratory it would be like a fun friendship dinner that doesn't have to have you won't want the dinner based on what happened who knows yeah maybe we take back you paying for dinner or maybe you pay for dinner and dave's flight home there's a lot on the table look at me like i got cards in front of me playing poker this is good i want yeah i want to see it but i i i think i'm just gonna stick to i had a plan coming in i'm gonna stick to the plan it's good content okay is years is years of contract oh that's a good question not really so is it is it kind of like we know it's a one year i actually i would i would estimate he i think that's the way he's gonna i would think he would want a one year at this point yes because i think that i think my number or the numbers that we've passed around i think you want one year and then maybe it becomes a bigger if you're truly seeing the light it's like okay if i'm starting on the right path here you know you're you're not at the end of one year there's no jeopardy we're in control of the company and you're not at the you put up a big number next year you like if you do it then you you don't want to be tied in with a lower number so i would see a one year being in your benefit right which you've said in the past yeah okay but to be honest one thing most people say the year contracts things don't mean a ton here because if someone outperforms it it's generally like it's ripped up i mean it's a little bit of i've never i for rico for and obviously we're in different spots but i the two things have happened to me i i'll never leave barstool but i've also i don't think i've ever even been close to free agency because every time that it needs to be ripped up it gets ripped up yeah i think it's just the sense of like not having to do it every year to dave's point yes it is beneficial but it's yeah every year but i think we're in a better spot than we were last year we're oh you think dance dance yeah i mean last year you weren't an employee i agree i agree you were yeah you were negotiating right no but i'm saying the whole thing it starts in september or august and it's like you're not going to be able to do it next year you're not going to be here we go dance monkey boy dance for the we haven't i don't think we've made you dance i agree yes but this year also because i haven't acted like a fucking asshole that's true that's part yeah that's right except for jack yeah that was bad calling him a cokehead this is tough we tease the audience i know they're just sitting here on the edge of their seat here i'm gonna do a row back at and then you just think about a little more row back it's safe to say we bet on these guys any day of the week because we absolutely love their gear with the holidays quickly approaching we only recommend row back it is simply the most comfortable gear we have a special guest coming in maybe that will help contract. Hey, Pick'Em listeners, we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. Football season is finally upon us, which means it's game on with RYOBI with over 400 cordless solutions including speakers, fans, and lights for the tailgate, leaf blowers, and string trimmers for yard maintenance, stick vacuums and spot cleaners for cleaning up after the party, and drills, saws, and more for your DIY projects. RYOBI has you covered from the tailgate to the garage, backyard, and everywhere in between. Find RYOBI products only at your local Home Depot. Visit ryobitools.com slash barstool to see the full game on lineup. What's up, Skip? Kirk's here. Kirk Minahan. What's going on, guys? We're just playing a dance right now. We're doing this again? No, we're not. Oh, we're good. We're done. Very healthy. No, it's been a very civil, healthy. I had a plan going in, and I think doing a one-on-one at dinner is the healthiest. Cut the booth. Yeah, sorry, they were talking. The one-on-one at dinner is the healthiest way to do it. Good. Okay, when's that going to happen? That's tonight, but then we just started talking. Dave and I both wrote down. Just one-on-one dinner? Yeah, Dave and I both wrote down numbers that we think Rico's going to ask for, and they're far apart, so we don't know. You haven't made these numbers public. We've not made these numbers public. We offered to do it right now. Yeah, we said we would make it public. Can I see these numbers or no? Yeah, you can see them, but we won't tell you which one. It's a secret so you can't tell Rico. That's fine. Where's yours, Dave? We won't tell you who wrote which number. Fair. Kirk is going to come over here. Kirk, you might be able to. And we actually were done with it, and then Rico is like, he's thinking about maybe doing it right now because it is great content. Don't show Rico. Don't let him see. Yeah, there's a big difference. Do you know the number, Kirk? No, I have not. As his agent, you don't? The only number Kirk knows is $100,000 for once a week. Yeah. Right. He did offer you that. That's the all-time best. You want to talk about a guy being on drugs. He didn't know our show was on Barstool. Well, no. I fucked up, and I was listening impaired, and I heard that you pay Mike out of his pocket. I'm like, ooh, he loves me. He'll pay me out of his pocket. Right. $100,000. I know he did. It's fucked up. It's okay. I understand. What would that have been a year? You're saying $100,000. $100,000. For a year. Oh. To do the show 52 times. I would bring him. I'd pay for transportation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, $150,000. So, I'm going to guess that you went higher without knowing anything. Who? Dave. I'm not going to say. I understand. I respect that. Yeah. Would you be comfortable if the number was the middle of those two numbers? No. I already have my number in my head of what it is. Yeah. That wasn't. That wasn't his number of what he's going to. That's what we can ask for. That's what we think he's going to ask for. Yeah. What I'm saying is if the number was between those two. Oh, no. There's no. I know I have my number in my head. Those numbers were irrelevant to what I think he's going to ask. What it's going to be. Yeah. So, it's going to be you two at 5 o'clock. Right. Or right now, we could. So, to reiterate, there really is no. You're not moving off of your number. That's why it's like. It doesn't feel like a negotiation at that. Oh, it's not really. No. There's not much. I have a pretty good zeroed in ballpark of what. And it's a small ballpark. It's like. It's a. It's a band box. Yeah. Ebbets Field. Yeah. Popping them out. Well, okay. How are you feeling? Okay. Oh. Like the key to a negotiation in general is, you know, Alex Cooper, Dan, like, well, we got these offers over here. I got it. It's tough to negotiate. Do you have this year? No. It's another pretend offer from another radio station. No. No, you don't. Oh, you might. We played that card. I feel like that. We could have. We could have made that happen. Yeah. We could have gotten some. Yeah. Fake offers going on. Another joker. Though we count jokers in Hold'em. But that was the reason why. Does the band box sit more than it currently sits? I mean, do you want to do this now? I'm just dancing around. But the only reason that I know. Dave does know what he's going to. So that's the thing is like the numbers, the number. So it's like the dinner is kind of irrelevant. We're saying all I'm saying is does the band box that I'm saying to me, your band box fit more than it currently sits right now. That's a negotiation. We either do it at dinner or we do it now. Do it at dinner. So that's what I'm saying. Can you squeeze? So we could squeeze maybe five. That's important, right? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So yeah, we do. We upseating. Could he squeeze more out if he did it right now? Can you squeeze? He knows that it's content like that's almost a sign of like, I understand content. These are purely hypotheticals. Yeah. I mean, you don't care really. No, nor do I. I do not care. I want to see everyone just be happy together. Sure. But if he was like, yeah, you didn't spoil anything right now. We haven't said anything. Yeah. Well, do you see him? Well, I'm just saying I'm looking at the positives. And I mean, again, I think that should be on somebody in production, not on this gentleman. But that's a different conversation. Were you here when I went out for production? He's screamed. Oh, no. Of course, also not on your email because you still haven't put me on company emails. It's been four years. That's crazy. Well, that's also you got taken off. I understand. But I have done enough not to be put back on. Like, I had no idea. I got taken off when he started. You're starting to sound like the guy sitting next to you right now. I'm going to need to tell him. I'm going to need to tell him the story again. Mistakes were made. Mistakes were made. But you're blaming. It's like when little Harry Minahan was little. You know, he's in his 30s now. But he was a little kid. And when he was wondering, he was pooping in his pants. Yeah, you two are sounding very similar. What I'm saying is, you know. Yeah, no, he can't. He can't help himself. He's not potty trained in that way. I cannot believe he was on doing live streams without a dump. That was very clear. Yeah. No, I took a little ownership because I thought he was definitely on a dump button. I should have double checked that. Right. Because, yeah, he's not capable of anything. No, no, no. Or he's capable of everything. Right. Right. 12 episodes, two international incidents. 17%. That's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good. This guy, this year, I mean, Angel. Yeah. Yeah. He's done a great job. I'm looking at a different man right here. Yeah. They said I couldn't do it. I did it for myself. Even his eyes are different. He's like Riggs. He's had the surgery. Yeah. He is the true, true, had to hit rock, rock, rock bottom to. Chris Herron. Yeah. Chris Herron. He's Chris Herron. Yeah. He's on drugs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have Chris Herron's jersey. Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly. I don't know if that helps or not. Yeah. But point is. You know, I wrote for Comeback Stories. Yeah. So this is just the two of you at five o'clock tonight. That's what the plan sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like we're not going to do it right now. I have something at four, but it's, but if he did it right now, we would bleep out the number. Absolutely. So just be number reaction. Well, you, I'm sorry. You didn't answer his question. I don't think Dan's question. Would you be more open to negotiating in this form than say at dinner? Because it's content and he's proving that he knows. Maybe he'd have. A very slight. There's no healthy debate. I honestly think you're. I think we're in a good spot. Good. Good. Fantastic. Yeah. I think it's good, too. I don't think he. So I think you're still a little worried. Say your number. Just say he'll react. We will. I think we will 100% bleep it out. There's no like I will. Dinner doesn't put my fucking. We can still go to dinner. I'll swear on my kids. The number gets bleeped out. Show the difference. Of like you like me go, then you come back and then I and then I. Yeah, but you keep like I rather. I already have. But there is no. Yeah, that's what I'd rather just get that. What's the first? What's the first number? I'd rather just get that ballpark to know like. Oh, yeah, because if it's. I also respect like don't make a fool of yourself. But you're not going to get the ballpark tonight either. Like you're going to sit down at dinner and he's not going to say his number. Oh, yeah, he's not going to say his number. No, that's not how that's how you negotiate. Yeah, there was. There's never a world where he's going to say a number first. If he did, I'd be very inclined to not come back with anything. I still don't think that changes. I don't think he gave you like if you were the number. He's saying that if you said the number, he'll just accept whatever. And it's one of those things like, do I really want to go down this road of fucking poking? No, but we're at it. Hey, that's a good number. We're not buying a car here. I'm just take take the number. Like, what's your number? Cover up your mouth. What? Cover up your mouth when you say it. If you say it right now, cover up your mouth. What does it start with? A dollar sign. OK, I think you should do it now. We've already gone this far. It's almost unfair to people listening. Yeah, just let's just do it because we've talked about it. I think you have your agent here. This will be done. I think I think it's good done. I think it's be done very quick. I think it's going to be very quick. It'll be done in 10 minutes. If your if your if your number is reasonable, which I know will be. Just do it. Yeah, again, I really don't. Yeah, I don't want to make myself look like an asshole, but we're going to bleep the number. The number is bleeped. The number will not be in the podcast. If I think it's ridiculous, I'll I'll postpone it to dinner. Oh, that's fair. That's actually a number. I'm like, we're going to dinner. That's fair. And then we just go right to the games. That's fair. That actually is fair. Okay. cover your mouth yeah i guess i could go on the low end this way or do what you will do what you think you're worth don't don't yeah don't short i'm not gonna do it a mocking way if the number's like i know there's a lot of discussion that has to be done you say number i'll say dinner we'll go into the games get the calculator out i wish we had like a side bet on who's closer our number like if we had that as a on the like a sports book your number versus mine i'll bet you a thousand bucks cash i think yeah i would actually fine all right i'm actually would like to okay i don't know who's this who's yeah you have to get on this i have a thousand bucks cash i have a good feeling about this i think this calculator is burning right what's he's doing he's peaking beautiful mind this is good everyone's look at look at liam get everyone in there look at them they're all yes that's fine all right so i mean we'll do a round number all right cover up your mouth and say it because that way we're gonna bleep it anyway but just so people don't people can't i'm at a low ball myself i don't i don't know what you want me to say fair okay okay okay then then then bump it up a little bit well remember you get a little bit of bump from doing it right here yeah right so by the way go you know there's as dan told the story before when he said his number in ours like i if i'm not if somebody gives me a number i think they're worth more than the number i don't i did that's fair that's happened twice to me where i've said a number dave's like you're worth more than that totally fair negotiating i will say that about dave yes happy kirk's here for him this is great this is fucking great mincy turn around you don't get to enjoy this content you do not get to enjoy this content mincy in between this is a mound visit right all right i'm saying yeah cover up your mouth when you say it because we're gonna bleep it i don't want people to be able to guess what you're saying oh yeah that's a good idea that's a good idea you got a paper yeah dinner there's still some things to iron out at dinner but this will yeah yeah yeah and again dinner could be celebratory it could be friendship it could be it could be a big yeah it could be just everything you take us all to dinner to celebrate right yeah we get this thing done don't do that you can't well don't but but be a good change your face good faith done done we're done wow say yes say yes don't fuck this up don't don't don't do this okay don't do it done shake hands go shake hands go shake hands can we can we do everything else yeah no that's a great that's a great deal that is a great hands right now that's a great fucking deal that's a great fucking deal dinner unless you have stuff to ask me private oh man we go to dinner rico i rico so here he dave owes me a thousand dollars he owes me a thousand dollars hold on rico look you went high i went low i told you what i said i thought he was going to come in show it to well no actually i don't want to show well yeah i do think but that was also just what we thought he was going to come i almost nailed it rico so i think that's a great deal and rico he was lower but you're high you're higher than what i guessed put the calculator down it's over you made a good deal yeah you made a good deal you know what's fitting what 16 oh mincy it's mincy's fuck-ups 16 of the time he fucks up wake up that's uh the bump yeah bump i think i think i think it was a little low but no i don't know no no you had all your no good deal i don't think you're low that was right about yeah on yeah yeah yes that's what i figured that rico that you almost you almost hit exactly what i guessed and don't forget and you were actually a little higher than that so don't forget you haven't been there but almost everybody content gets sizable bonuses based on how they do well that's uh that's on a bullet point okay yeah but like yeah but that's uh that's a that's how it works it's a base salary and then that's correct yeah bonuses a base out and then you'll get it i was remember that was that was dan to his call yeah that was bad in a full iowa sweatsuit when wisconsin was playing yeah other dickhead move that's why i don't think that's why i don't think you lowball just let no kirk last year he after everything that happened he chased me my car and he's just like it's a no bonus for me this year you quit two a month four weeks ago yeah yeah it's done i feel really good about that i think that's a great deal for you rico like i'm happy for you you deserve it you've done a great job this year that's fucking i i thought it i i i thought you're gonna come in the lulu higher but i thought in the end you'd be happy like that i'm i knew a great job yeah i'm happy for you yeah and like i said wasn't gonna change much that's like where it should be that's right right and rico think about it a million and a half dollars a year is a lot in satin island agreed big time oh that's oh that's what he just signed for oh i just realized the decimal what he asked for that's low no that's good that's a joke rico that was a that was a a good sign of everything yeah i think that was great negotiation by this very good job you got him over you got him ready to go right yeah what what's wrong oh don't do oh no don't do this oh no so yeah it's a little yeah here's i got a little bit of that thing at war dogs where they're like hey i gotta ask why did you give us the deal it's like well you guys were 53 million dollars lower than every but i don't do that no he doesn't do that i know but i think in that ballpark yeah rico i'm telling you god's honest truth two times because it's been what like 12 years now so there's been many times when dave and i have sat down two different times i can see in my head where i've said a number dave's like you're worth more than that yeah so it's not like he's like oh i'm gonna just oh you said a number great i can get you for cheap that's how he works it is hard it is hard to define like what base salary is for well yeah it's just a lot right like like i have the numbers and but there's dan's in a unique spot because they have very clear ads and there's people in the company who it's very easy oh we make this much on it yeah of course rico along with a lot of people aren't there yet hopefully healthy debate gets to a point where it's like oh stands on its own correct or yeah or reality shows reality shows are huge i talked to kirk about that that is a hard thing to quantify that's a big reason why i'm still here but but yeah it that we have to get more using the cast who may not have the individual shows that have the clear p and l but we make it on you know when we get the golf together or we get the you know well that yeah that's a bullet point too you want to be in the rider cup yeah okay i'm out then i didn't realize that we get and we gotta be better at selling those like yeah that's a whole different conversation yes but well i mean yeah all right yeah i think it's uh it's just ironing out yeah small very celebrate this is celebration it is celebrational life this is not a man that looks like no it's not a happy look i mean there's a big i don't think you i don't think you thought that piece of paper was gonna have yeah i think you still thought it was gonna be diluted well i didn't know what my i wouldn't have let you put that no i wouldn't have let that happen i also wasn't gonna in fairness i know i the things you were seeing were not crazy now i know i know i was saying no that that that was fair and that's over how many years that's salary one okay well i thought that'd be three years for that total so you're really overpaying jesus wow i thought that was a three-year good job rico i'm proud of you congratulations that's good that's good it's done now you're done now you can relax also you just said 16 is like i mean that's i can already tell you that's the lulu of this company right you give raises and they look at it it's only six percent it's only six percent it's only 16 right i've had that conversation i only got 10 raised like well you look at the world yeah yeah no we're in a recession thanks joey b yeah sleepy joe sure you sleep at the wheel five o'clock yeah you got a pick for us kirk before so now it's a group dinner is that okay yeah are you okay with that you know uh i could do two skips yeah oh i'm out okay no dan no even this whole thing he's still kind of like i wasn't wait i like the paraplegic good fellas i was and help if we play back the i was very much not staring at airplanes and starting i was trying not to do this he was in the yeah if you do replay it we were done with the con yes you said something yes i want to get very much like don't do it raced content but no right but don't no that's not true it just was it was more of i don't want to make myself look like an asshole no that wasn't how would that be an asshole compared to the what the things you were doing in the past there have been many times where i will absolutely cop to poking me poking poking poking poking many many times i don't think if you replay that tape i poked at all no that was a there was an awkward silence that then began yeah i think yeah i agree i don't have to come to dinner i'm not wanted he's not you don't want you if you want to go with just dave i don't care yeah let him go with just dave because we actually had this conversation just go you and me yeah you guys have a celebration we're good we're in a good spot yeah kirk you and i will go to dinner we'll go to dinner we'll go to the same place they go we'll sit one table over i'd like to have dinner with you tonight yeah let's do it i feel like we're not it's hurtful what well i mean you and i i mean i helped get this deal done no you're a thousand percent can go no it's probably about myself again it's fine there's a jimmy johns on the street all right give us a pick kirk you're the best gambler any college football game well i mean i gotta go with my guy nick savin oh i mean champions are champions like i don't like i would say alabama 34 michigan i'm gonna put a million cash i'm rooting for you all kidding aside i gotta actually do that today probably i keep waiting for what's the number now it's minus one i think it's still on on the different account i've seen it on different you gotta take money line yeah okay not at one i wouldn't rico no one you don't have to oh that would just be all time oh no you wouldn't care thank you if you didn't if you pushed one no no yeah right it's one minus 120 yeah that's crazy and it's minus one minus 115 minus 120 is the money line yeah but oh that's money line yeah minus 120 money line minus one minus 115 on just the spread okay yeah i was over and rico said should we do just do it on the show right yeah yeah you know it's i guess a little i know you want a celebratory dinner rico i also want to say i do not care take offense the fact i think you want to have dinner just solo with dave and i respect that that's you you should go do that you think so i don't know especially because i don't know what that means but true no so michigan here they're minus 115 minus oh one so that's all a fucking lot of money when you're yeah that's big 50 grand yeah um do so before we do the games do you want to i mean you can do the monologue i still probably okay all right to be honest save the monologue all right let's talk games that was great i'm happy for you rico that's a great deal right i'm being honest with you that's a great deal i also still think there's a little still a little water in that rock maybe so i have to steal the good that old laugh is old school yeah sick laugh crazy laugh i still got it yeah all right let's do games yeah we let's do games hey pick them listeners we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners hey it's fran from chicks in the office it's officially sweater season and this 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know that i was gonna get fucked i didn't think it'd be florida state but i thought it'd be texas but looking back like texas texas and bam are a package deal yeah i agree yeah yeah so and then um i will say this i think the committee got it wrong leaving out florida state but they gave us the best four yes so and that's the crutch they're always gonna have and they're like you're gonna watch anyway shut up so it's a ratings game yeah it's true tough year well yeah because for new year i i will never like to me and i said this i will never like pay attention or give credence or actually credibility i if if you're 13 and you don't get in at 12 i don't care right like but it's gonna be two losses versus three losses yeah right like you had a chance to do something you cry me a river i don't care about that snub but florida state what are you gonna say you play a perfect season uh it kind of defeats the purpose of sports it sucks for the kids yeah right now we would be debating like oklahoma lsu and arizona right right tough year for uh in a new year's day it's essentially a school night you got we're back into work on the second the way it falls on that monday i always hate when new year's day is what when new year's day is a monday and you go back on the second think about we're gonna be up till 12 30 watching these games yeah no i like that i prefer that though that's way better it's like after it's way better than it has been before it's been on like christmas eve no new year or new year's eve you know this that was the worst you have your new year's wind down yeah exactly it's new year's then you just don't even get i just made the fact that you're up you'll be up till one two in the morning you got to go to work tonight let him finish dave yeah you're right i apologize you're uh you new year's eve next day a little hungover order a ton of food sit and just watch football all day that's how it used to be every oh yeah it's the biggest day of the year yeah okay you're right you chinese food guy on new year's day finish love love it but let rico finish his song anyways i like the games on new year's i'm very it's a school night we all go back to work the second that's tough no depends when it falls well yeah that's most of the time unless it's like because if it was let's say if it was if new year's day was a thursday you think he would make us go back to work on friday the second no if it was wednesday he might give us thursday friday like it's it's the way the week falls do you know what is bullshit though you know what's bullshit that's gone away right the fact that we don't have uh any bowl games on that tuesday wednesday after new year's that's bullshit you need the come down games they used to do no but that's that's kind of new too relatively no because no because they changed it you mean the shit games no they used to always do like the peach bowl oh yeah yeah like on the tuesday night and it would be like like a top 15 matchup right they've taken away that but that is like i i missed when just everything was on new year's like there was 9 000 yeah yeah but i i do miss the come down games like i need a couple bowl games on tuesday and wednesday because we have this whole like stretch where i'm just betting football all the time and then they just cut it from you i feel like new year's i always remember it's like 11 a.m tennessee iowa yeah that's that's literally this year is it yeah tennessee iowa yeah do they play like every year yeah they're playing in the citrus bowl yeah that's why i said that bowl yeah 11 a.m yeah yeah i know the one you're talking about is wisconsin lsu what bowl is that's the 11 a.m uh bowl it's the what it was was the camping the camping world the outback bowl thank you mincy it's now rely a quest bowl got it but yeah um i'm so jealous of you dave by the way that you're going the rose well it's the greatest football experience ever huge game in my life it's i i have everything this super bowls are obviously bigger where where is is this bigger than one of the super bowls no no i'm a bigger patriot fan than i am right again but like this is the this is the jewel that i'm missing in my championship yeah thanos all of them yeah you got all of them super bowl though is when you would go to super bowls like that's business this is like you're gonna get romantic about football well like that's what it feels like you just see it college football rose yeah but i i that that is not on the same crown as me like i that's distant if you said i can get football national championship or college basketball championship they're they're very different to me and we really only got fucked but uh no i i'd much rather win it's also a lot of stakes for you because you in years past if this game was happening you'd be like well patriots playoffs the pages are dead right so now it's like you got a long winter can't bigger michigan alabama and the rose bowl doesn't get bigger massive it's gonna be great all right should we talk a few games and then we'll do a couple picks so uh arizona bowl obviously arizona bowl is on the list i put that on there everyone tune in cw and barstool.tv on uh december 30th i think it's two o'clock local time four o'clock uh eastern time saturday december 30th are you checking uh no i was checking something else for a recommendation but yeah i'll get you the game hold on no i i'm pretty sure i got it all right let's talk a couple other games uh these are just like the the big bowl games leading up mizzou and ohio state uh ohio state has everyone transferred everyone ryan day i actually believe the rumor that he's like soft launching his nfl career like trying to figure out if someone would get him and get chaos um for that reason i'll take missouri because everyone's playing and they're ready to go i think ohio state is chaos like you said uh i think it's also gonna be high scoring so i'm gonna take missouri in the over yeah i'm gonna take missouri too yeah the ohio state situation like i do think they'll be fine long term because they're going to be playing they're going to be playing they're going to be playing because they're ohio state but right now they feel like they're at like a weird crossroads where it's like what's what's going to happen here they've gotten the piss beat out of them three straight times yeah what's that face uh grand canyon has a home game but it's the same day i thought it was the night before it's an unreal experience out in arizona huh i would not be going to that okay no i'm just i'm saying i'm not fair enough i appreciate that it's nuts it's like i've gotten actually weirdly lucky with the arizona bowl because you know i've gotten actually weirdly lucky with the arizona bowl because ordinarily i wouldn't want to fly to the west coast but michigan's out there again last year was a debacle obviously you're uh yeah you hit a home run with that um all right other game i'll take you doing that as well you got mizzou okay it's bad you could have got two and a half or minus two and a half yeah yeah you're not even playing but this is the thing i i will still bet every single bowl game crapshoot it really does you should live bet every single one of them yes watch like one series of each and see who's trying who's playing but i even though i know that's the right move i mentally can never do that yes it's it's it sucks how the portal and everything has changed it so that portal is there was a famous bowl when houston came in and they were playing army and it was in somewhere in the middle of texas and nobody gave a fuck about or whatever and army goes right down their throat the first one right down the second and it's very clear like houston does not want to get cut locked here for three hours yeah like let's just get out of here not die and whatever and army just pounded them yeah uh all right that was very famous uh famous in the sense it fits the live betting you could have made a fortune yeah uh old miss penn state penn state's minus three and a half over unders 48 and a half any intel on old miss i don't walk into me about it and come talking to mike talking to a mike give the people here is that yeah okay oh all right penn state's defensive coordinator took the duke head coaching job to tap top pass manny diaz yeah manny diaz top pass rusher opted out i heard they're gonna have more opt-outs old miss is playing everybody and fired up about it so i like old miss on the tower and old miss is better athletes i actually like old miss i think i'm gonna take old miss plus three and a half then old miss i liked them before that speech but i do like them yeah all right uh georgia florida state's the last oh and then we'll talk arizona bowl but georgia florida state uh florida state's plus 14 i'm gonna take florida state in this game i i don't know i feel like they're gonna have the the biggest like rallying cry of all time yeah it's tough i i'm taking florida state too but i don't i have no idea what to expect out of them i think it is they couldn't rally or they could be deflated i think georgia's deflated yeah i always think the team that's just got their uh life cut out from under them they went from number one never lost they play for national championships i don't think they play for this game so i just think you're gonna get a subpar georgia effort i have no idea what to expect florida state who knows but i'll take the points the thing too with florida state is i know they look bad against louisville but that was their third string backup yeah rotamaker kid's not he's not great but he's he's at least competent and florida state's defense can play with anyone i yes i agree and there's been countless examples i feel like of sec teams yeah because they get the benefit of like oh we didn't try or if they win they're like cs yeah better right who who are in the line for the playoff and then they don't make it and they just lay down in the in their next game what do you got rico uh i'm gonna go to florida state okay i agree i think this they'll rally listen georgia's still um but do they really give a fuck in this like they really care florida wins a fucking fake championship yeah that's what i was just saying i agree yes i agree the only argument you could make with with some of these bowl games in a team like georgia is they have so much fucking so many dudes on that roster freshmen sophomores that are going to be the next dudes and they can use this game as their launching point for next year that's it uh all right our bowl game toledo wyoming wyoming's coach is retiring yeah taquan finn is out for toledo i don't know how you can't bet wyoming why this is i love that coach too he's all cred bull what's out west what they travel going all the way yeah well wyoming's in the area yeah yeah no i'm bad with directions but they they had like a full house last year yeah yeah no i mean i'm are we gonna be on the same side in this game this year sounds it yeah i i just don't i mean that that coach retiring is like he's been there forever i also like the over oh yeah even though daquan finn's out wyoming puts up a lot of points okay um all right let's talk uh the semi-final games the first one is texas washington i am now staring down a doomsday scenario because as we've talked about on the show i put a future on washington cashed it out for a profit took the profit put it on oregon picked the wrong horse jayden daniels made it a little bit better because in a weird way i i'm never good at like figuring out math and hedging jayden daniels actually ended up being a hedge against like oregon not winning that game um so won a little money there but yeah if washington wins it's gonna be an all-time fuck up by me you were a little hot are you mad about the washington tie did in fairness dan i tried to jinx him not jinx what what did you what did you have them at i had washington at 18 to 1 for 5k they beat oregon i cashed out for 12k then put 5k on oregon at 25 to 1 right so i still ended up so up seven grand or whatever or no you would have won if your bet was just standing you had a chance to win 90 yeah yeah yeah so it hurts yeah it hurts a lot but then i had jayden daniels plus 550 for 5k so a little bit back there but yeah it hurts it will be an all-time blunder by me because i'll have to go look at it and be like that's well we just need texas i i'll start i love washington i love them i i i've been i i've been on them now for a bit there's always teams that you start to see evolve i don't think they're getting the respect their defense is playing much better than it did in the beginning of the season and they're a chameleon team which just finds ways to win they that i don't that oregon game wasn't even that close they brutalized no they it was it looked like oregon essentially just read the power ratings that everyone had and they're like we'll show up and win that why i texted you i go like five minutes in the game it was clear that they were going to win and they were going to win and they wanted to be there not want to be there but who is more physical dominant i am not sold as much as people in texas washington underdog again i think they win this game um and i think they can win the whole thing to be totally honest i like washington yeah so what rico was alluding to um i forgot about this completely so i guess that answers the question that uh am i over it yeah because i forgot about it but i just went and looked back uh so i play i just told everyone what my future situation was if you remember when i had the washington future we called his friends uh sally yeah yeah i remember that and i said that if washington makes it to the final i believe or was it to the playoff it might have been a little so he said college football finals okay well i said i think i said playoff i will give sally 1k yeah so i had forgotten about this sally got ahead of himself and well so did you uh rico texted me in the middle of the fourth quarter uh with a text from sally being like this should be brought up on the fact that big cat owes me a thousand dollars and rico texted me expensive night for you in the middle of the four trying to reverse jinx that doesn't know sally said sally texted with eyeballs washington eyeballs and the game wasn't over and oregon's making that run i'm like all right here we go dan says come in this hole i'm fucking jizzing all over the place here sally got ahead of himself i don't care if sal wins a thousand let's get dan to the window one time what's saying expensive night for you like how is that because it how is that a jinx because i'm all it's just it's over yeah it was a very mean thing to do i'm sitting there watching the the jump that i made was brutal to watch and he wrote expensive night for you yes the reverse jinx i was also acting how is that a reverse because i was acting like washington won as well and then the gambling gods it's very much nikki smokes i was trying to put the checkbox i don't think then it comes back on us and oregon wins i don't think this is whack whack whack that reminds me of another i don't know if jerry told you this exchange no i just went back sunday november 26th i had 100 grand on bills i think you did tell me this yeah yeah yeah the bills verse um jerry thornton or gerard gerard um jersey jerry jersey jerry um he's got a very popular show called jerry after dark he's doing well so but i thought they 100 grand on i had the bills that eagles thank you mincy mincy just sitting here i lose that bet and i'm ice cold 100 grand should have won that fucking game and i get this at 8 25 the game was over for 25 minutes do you want to give up on that mac jones bet he's bad they need to draft the qb i wrote back read the room midget oh he he did tell me this i was like why would you do that crazy rico did the same thing to me expensive night for you yes i tried to reverse that's not a reverse jinx i don't know how you could read that as a reverse jinx just look at this this is this is the text that he sent so this is him and sally sally said uh this better be brought up on pick them and he said yeah lol i will rico sent me that text exchange and just said expensive night for you yeah that's not a reverse jinx that's just so fucking sticking it to me when i'm down that's tough and then i demanded rico got i could tell rico got scared because i just wrote back what's his venmo you're always sick with your timing and he's like don't flip out i said what's his no no give it i said give it to me right now otherwise he gets nothing dan so then i i got the venmo and i sent him a thousand dollars right away you are misreading the text for the record okay hank the halloween costume when max is tweeting that you're talking into air you're talking to the engine or truck this better be brought up on pick them that's the end of that conversation then it starts a new oh so just the huskies just the huskies okay just the huskies but still expensive night for you is not how is that a reverse it was whatsoever and i needed to be there i needed to also be on washington so the gambling gods come back on both of us but in reality i'm really rooting for oregon if you had texted me saying sally's getting ahead of himself that would have made sense expensive night for you is like you're right like hey remember this guy you own a thousand dollars to get better text all bets have been paid though sally get sally deserves it yeah he actually tried to not accept it i said you if you don't accept it we went i'm gonna fucking use a thousand dollars and burn something down guys on staten island we're we're uh you know a man of our word he wanted to make sure it wasn't fine no i i i'm i'm almost positive that i said well you football playoff football finals i think i said it because i wanted to hedge out so all bets are paid sally was right good for him thousand bucks for him yeah um Okay, who's your pick in this game? You know, I wrote down Texas, and I think I'm just, ah, man. I agree with everything you're saying with Washington, but I think I'm just going to stick with Texas. Washington over. I don't know if I said over, but I want overs over. Yeah. I'm with you on Texas. I don't love it, though. I don't either. I don't either. But I'm going to write down Texas. I love Washington. I'm also in a spot where I have to bet against Washington because I can't make it. Yeah, I think that makes the blow a little, it softens the blow for you, so I will be rooting for Texas. I just think Texas, the one thing that scares me is Texas secondary is not great. But everything else they do is pretty damn phenomenal. But you're right, Dave. Washington, like, their defense has been so much better. So much. Work hard and hydrate hard with Body Armor Flash IV. Whether you're working in extreme heat or powering through a long shift, Body Armor Flash IV delivers faster, longer-lasting hydration. With more than 2,000 milligrams of electrolytes, vitamins B and C, and zinc, coconut water, and no artificial sweeteners, flavors, or dyes, Body Armor Flash IV keeps you performing at your best. Get Body Armor Flash IV at your local 7-Eleven. All right, last game, and then we will do, so everyone's got to have two more to locks, regular bowls, and then one from these two. Alabama-Michigan. Michigan's minus one, over-under's 45-and-a-half. Dave? I've said how I feel about this, and it's not just, uh, like, hyperbole. I just don't, I'm not sold on Alabama. I, I, the quarterback, I don't like. I don't think he can throw. Uh, I think Michigan coming off losing last year in the way they did to TCU, all the controversy. They've risen to the occasion. Uh, I like Michigan to win this football game, and I also love the line. Like, all you hear is Bama, Bama, Bama, Bama, Bama, Bama, Bama. Michigan's favorite. Michigan is favorite in this game. The line hasn't really moved at all. Um, I think the sharp money is on Michigan. The fools are on Alabama, and they're thinking it's one of the all-time Alabama teams. It's not. Yeah, they beat Georgia. That changes the nature of their season. Auburn is horrible. They had no business being Auburn. That's not like, oh, yeah, they squeaked by them. They need a miracle that Auburn was stupid, and they lose that game. This, I love Michigan. Love. Do you worry a little bit about this overlooming narrative of, like, Michigan? Do you worry a little bit about Michigan? Like, sometimes, you know, the scripts we say in Bama-Texas rematch. Because I agree with you. Michigan's a different team, and now third time in the playoff, this is when you break through and get to a championship. That is a fair point, though. The storybook. The storybook is written that it's Bama-Texas, and I'm not knocking on Michigan. It's just how it goes. I can just argue that the storybook is Michigan with all the controversy. Also true. Also true. America's team. That's a very good point. This game has me twisted, because I think, I do think, I do think that Michigan has the best defense that Alabama will face. But I also am a little scared, because there has not been a dynamic offense that Michigan has faced. Like, Jalen Milrow, his ability to throw and pass, I mean, run. He can throw the deep ball. I watch Alabama, and when you play a defense like Michigan, you can't, you can't get do-overs. And he is, he misses lots of guys. If you miss one defense, if you miss one guy in a series versus Michigan, the odds are you're punting. So I just don't think he's consistent enough. I don't think Michigan's going to give up the big play. I love Michigan. Okay. Yeah, I wrote that on Michigan as well, but I do worry about, and to Dave's point, the line being, when is Saban a fucking dog? Never. Literally last week. Okay. Other than that. That was pretty quick. Yes, it was. You're right, Dan. You're right. Dan, you're right. Overall, though, he's been. That was tough. That was tough. That was literally the last game they played. Well, because I know that point. It's four times in the last like five or, I'm sorry, four in the last like 10 years or eight years. I feel like. I don't think that's true. Literally the entire country is saying Alabama. When else would they have been a dog? Championship game. They've been dogs to Georgia a couple times. They were definitely dogs to LSU when they had Burrow, right? Oh, that was, because that was Alabama, right? When else have they been dogs? Mincy. National championship game. I'll text Brad. My only issue with betting all this money on Michigan more. I'm thinking I like Washington equally. That's my only issue. So what are you going to do? I don't know. It's like Michigan is almost like a heart. Like I wouldn't be. I'm betting that I'm going to be there and I said it, but I would put a million on. What about, what about million dollar parlay? Well, don't do a million dollar parlay, but obviously the games are at different times. Where for? First. No, you're second. Oh, you are first. Yeah. Cause the Rose bowl. I'm stupid. Oh yeah. You're right. So you can't do that. No, but you, I could do it. And then if I win, put, uh, yeah, you just roll over onto Washington. Yeah. That's what you got to do. But I'm not 2 million on Washington. If I won. Yeah. Not 2 million on Michigan in the championship. Well, no, he wins. If Michigan is his championship, he'll have a bankroll to do whatever. Yeah. Right. I I'm saying I like Washington all in Washington. Right. Oh no, don't do that. No, that's what I was saying. Oh, so, okay. Got it. Don't do that. That's what I did. That would take four. That would be your, that would take, but also that would take a million would be my biggest, but I've never been. Don't do that. Don't do that. Cause you, you, you would have the highest of highs beating Alabama, winning a million dollars. And then if you, yeah, that's, that's an old school, Dave gambling right there. Where it's like, I went one in one today and I lost Villanova. I have that feeling like it's you. It's a drug. Like I, that, that, that, that feeling of just thinking about, Oh, 2 million in Washington. Woo. You're going to, you're going to text me. Like I went one in one. I want a million dollar bet today and I have nothing to show for it. I lost. Yeah. One in one lost a million after the biggest bet ever. Uh, okay. I'm, I'm going to take, what do you need? PFT. I don't see it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Nice kicks. What's up? What's going on? What's going on? Uh, all right. Of course. Um, you have to see everybody. Hey, Hey, uh, all right. I'm going to take Michigan. If you got to make a lock in the semis, I'll, I'll make a Michigan. I worry about, I don't want to take Dory, but I don't love Texas either. So I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm never really a big semifinal guy, like in the sense of feeling the sides. So that's always been the case. I'm going to take the over in this game. I, I glean Alabama, but I don't, if, if you're going with a million dollar bet, there's no way I'm betting out. Yeah. You got any targets of these Bama guys in the office? What? Travi, uh, Mancini, Jake Bass. Those are so below. Are you, you're not taking a little tight. Really? Is he going? No. Oh, okay. I don't know if he's going. Yeah. I'm not going to ask. Well, I know they won't do that. They're actually pretty cool. No. Willie's the best. Yeah. Um, he made that video with Drew's. Awesome. Yeah. Uh, all right. So locks in this, in these games, Hank, Michigan. Okay. Rico, Michigan, Zupi. Uh, I'm going Washington. Okay. Bama, Bama. Ooh, Jack. I have no problem with that. Listen, there's so much going on in this game. I hate it. I mean, Austin, no pick Zupi, Washington, Washington. All right. I got this. That, uh, well, how many times since 2010, there are three in one straight up and three against the spread as an underdog, all four games versus Georgia. This is the first time they've been an underdog to any team, not named Georgia since the 2009 sec championship game. Shout out Brad powers. Okay. There you go, Brad. I was crazy saying eight. They're never a fucking dog. That's crazy. That is crazy. And when they are, they win. Michigan's your lock, Dave. I'll take the over in Alabama. Michigan is my lock. Yeah, I have, can I, I, yeah, I also want to can do too. I also want to lock Washington. Yeah, I guess I could be your second. It could take. Yeah, because you were, we're going to do the second B from anywhere. Yeah. Okay. All right. So any other picks and then we'll do our last mortal locks from just bowl season. So, all right. Uh, I'm going to play, I'm going to play, play these now. And then I, I will get involved in a lot more. Uh, but UCF minus four and a half against Georgia tech air force plus three against JMU. Uh, that's the armed forces bowl. I have that as well. I like JMU. There's a bunch of, there's a bunch of defenses. Yeah. Uh, air forces. They're legit. They'll be fine. Kansas UNLV over 64 and a half Oak state plus three against A&M. A&M joke of a fucking program. This one was going to be my lock, but I'm worried about this BC quarterback. I love SMU minus 10 and a half. Um, that one will be the lock Clemson minus four and a half. I got a real good feeling about Clemson's ranked. Dabo is like rallying the true, you know, like the beats at sec team. It's a nice little capstone to a season when everyone said they were disaster. Clemson minus four and a half Tennessee minus eight and a half. Um, and we just got the word. If you're familiar with this show, the pinstripe bowl. My uncle is Owen 12 straight up with the team. He gets assigned. He has been assigned Miami. Yes, that was actually my, that's my lock Rutgers. Yeah. Yeah. He's been assigned. That's well classic guys coming from South Florida up to, they don't want to play in the pinstripe bowl. Rutgers will travel. Oh my God. Rutgers. Like people there. TJ was TJ. They were, they, were uh six and two and he was celebrating being bowl eligible i was like dude you're six and two what about the rest of the season he's like well we got to a bowl yeah that's how ruckers is the lock yeah get well no we'll wait for your lock what's your card i've been riding these guys and they've just been cash cash cash cash northwestern plus seven against utah cash cash uh kansas unlv over 64 and a half kansas state minus three nc state arizona minus three the quarterback's gone right at oklahoma yes going to oregon which is he's gonna be good there yeah he will be he was good at oklahoma 62 and a half over i feel like they'll have someone else who can play i agree rico on clemson what's that minus four and a half what i wrote down they all can move whatever jack locksman missouri minus two and a half ohio state over 48 and a half old miss plus three and a half against penn state fsu plus 14 uh wyoming minus three over 44 and a half tennessee minus eight and a half against iowa michigan minus one washington plus six plus four in the over 63 and a half my two mortals if i could do three it would be northwestern but if i can only do two i will do uh washington and michigan okay i have uh you know what i'm gonna do washington northwestern and michigan will be my million dollar bet yeah that's actually good because then you want to you want to win bob diaco too um and you that's you're putting everything into one game right if you do that all right i have oklahoma state plus three as well i've uh ruckers i did say my lock ruckers plus one air force plus three iowa plus eight and a half i'm different than you i would just wins ugly bowl games like they they're just gonna muck that shit yeah the total is 36 so like if you look at that you probably should take yeah yeah and also uh wyoming minus three we already talked about the big thing for me with bowl games is like i always just try to look for good running teams because these guys have taken a month off and the passing game always looks clunky to start if you can run the football just they show up and they run the football and guys don't want to you know they want to get fucking smoked in at the line of scrimmage for a game it means nothing all right other locks hank almost all miss plus three and a half rico uh arizona minus the three i like oklahoma without a quarterback you like the oklahoma or you like the over i had arizona in the over i had arizona in my car i think arizona had a great year it's a story like who cares about bowl games rarity arizona cares about a bowl game i will always back that strategy now when no one cares about bowl game yep and i don't care about the bowl game oklahoma gives all fuck yep uh zoopy mine's also arizona okay jack i'm gonna take liberty plus 17 and a half against oregon okay austin no pick uh ebo uh my semi-final is going to be the under in texas washington uh and then i'm going to take the uh oregon minus 17 okay dave you already did yours i did mine good show great oh liam liam give us both yours all right ruckers and over in as well so liam's got those two um great show great show great season so are we done yeah i mean we will do we'll do as usual we'll do a march madness pick them yeah we'll do a march madness is that part of the negotiation i mean do you want it do you want to do one before the the championship game we can no we don't need okay you guys doing a show at the championship game no i don't think so no i don't think so oh i don't even know i i i don't know whether if michigan wins i haven't decided whether i'll go or live stream i don't know i don't know i'm not a huge fan of the houston yeah houston but yeah there was not a great but it is going to be a great game regardless regardless so also that's there the championship game are still on the do not enter list is that no i didn't know it was atlanta i was atlanta yeah uh he went to the final four in houston um and it's not an nfl uh one eight for the championship game will be the inaugural rider con apparelli apparelli so for them all sorts of rider con ice con all these cons going on i like this we're gonna watch the game in between probably maybe have a dj you do some name that tune yes one-on-one burpees saved by the bell against frank with the mets if i don't get i'll say one thing about rider con this i'm very excited for your rico if i don't get a video of like 25 riders with their shirts off doing burpees in the barelli parking lot i'll be very upset i guess it's as good a time to to help promote my friend uh elio's doing ice con as well which uh he didn't really he didn't really do anything he didn't do anything he didn't do anything he wasn't even calling it that but we were in the car the other day where we oh celtics he's like how far is it from miami to where the panthers florida panthers play hockey i'm like i don't know hour 45 minutes why he's like and like just me and some of the ice people are doing like a meetup i'm like how many is like 50 to 100 of us i think in march we're just gonna like wear white shirts and stuff so ice con is coming in march for anybody who wants to be part of that love it yeah really it's one eight everyone just ripping stuff their shirts off imagine ice people ripping shirts it's gonna be like the m&m music video yes yeah that's great uh all right thank you everyone yeah we'll do we'll do a march madness so you'll hear from us then uh blue great job congratulations rico thanks all right you should be happy i am