2 Chainz Talks Weed, Intuition, and Becoming Himself

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This ain't from New York. Baby, those guys are on the other side. Selling some. There you go. That's it. I just went on that punch. One more, man. One more pimp. I'm good. I'm good. One more pimp, bro. You gotta do at least three, bro. Ten. Nine. Oh, my word. Eight. Seven. Six. Five. Four. Three. Three. Three. His glasses. His glasses fogging up. Two. One. Yes, sir. Wow. Walked around and found out, huh? Hello and welcome to a very special episode of the Adam Friedland Show. I'm Adam Friedland. My guest this week is Grammy Award winning rapper and newly minted author 2 Chainz. I won't lie to you audience, this was one of my most challenging conversations of my entire life. Mr. Chainz was immune to my charms as an interviewer. He deftly dodged each query as I scrambled on my back heel to find a way in. I sucked. I sucked up. I copycatted. I even tried to ingratiate myself to him via shared use of psychedelic drugs. This interview changed me and I'm sure you'll see that. And maybe not for the better, I don't know. I'm still figuring that out. So please enjoy my conversation with 2 Chainz. I hope you enjoy it. I hope you have these, uh, big furry Balenciaga boots on. I know, but it's giving you maybe like 6'7", 6'8" right now. Yeah, I'm 6'5" and then with these shoes on I might be about 6'7", 6'6". I think it's a little egotistical perhaps. No, I mean, I love myself. What can I say? Um, you grew up playing, playing ball. That's right. Yeah, I did a little balling. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What was your, what was your like game? You were a guard? Um, I think I was a great passer, a great playmaker. Uh, I have a really, really beautiful life. Looking jump shot is pretty. Um. What's your, what's your NBA comp? Oh, a comp for me probably would be, ah, currently, currently in the league right now. Let me just think who was in the All-Star game. Uh, for me. Steph. Not Steph. Steph, he has the range. I'm more of a playmaker. Uh, who do I, who do I, who do you think, Halo, that's in the All-Star? Ant. Ant-Man? Jalen or Ant-Man? Ant is something that. You know who's got like. Ant is nasty. You know, oh, he's the, and he's also like happens to be the most, the funniest guy. Like, he has that Chuck thing where he's like, he could, he's funnier than any comedian. Well, Ant is, you know, from Atlanta, we just have great personalities. Did you see that clip of him meeting Obama? Um. Ant was like, I will cook you. Like, he didn't care that I was the president. He don't, he don't. He's like, any place, any time. Competitive. I will smash your soul. Competitive nature, man. Yeah. Uh, I actually, I watched a clip of you saying you're, you're, not that this is pertinent at all to the interview, but saying you're a top five and we have an identical top five, uh, in the NBA. Really? For the NBA, yeah. What, what is it? 'Cause I put Shaq and Steph in the top five. Okay. Yeah. What else we got, Kobe? It's Bean, Bean, Braun, uh, MJ, Shaq and Steph. Okay, we got the same. We have the same. That's the same, same kind of guy. Yeah. That's cool. LeBron, uh. LeBron, uh, produced an album for you. Not produced. Produced would mean he would have actually made the track. Yeah, I know. He was an executive producer. Executive producer. He was like the Suge Knight of your. No. No, well, he not, I'm not saying he dangled anyone from a, uh, by their ankle. Anyway, I'll stop talking. Nah, nah. I gotta stop talking. LeBron is a, a great friend of mine, great friend of the family, and. Friend of mine as well, UTA, uh, Clutch Sports family is my agency. Okay. Uh, no, I. Shout out. LeBron. Yeah. He came. He came to the crib in L.A. and he is a huge, like, we always see him on Instagram, like, playing artist music, right, like, supporting artists, and we haven't seen any other basketball player to his greatness do that, not Jordan, Rest in Peace Bean, none of those people, so him being the biggest, um, basketball player in the world, sitting in the back of the Maybach supporting different artists' music, it was something that I took to, I had him come over, I played about, I don't know, over 20, 30 songs, and then. him and I kind of narrowed down the album, and that's how he was a part of my album. There's a famous clip of that, of LeBron inventing the Deluxe album. You've seen the clip. I mean, you know what? During that time, people really weren't doing it. I mean, Deluxe had started, and they, just like anything, they fade away, come back, and all of that. So, at that time, I don't think he thought he invented it. I just thought he was coming up with a good idea at that particular point in time. I would say he invented it, and he also dominated in the dead ball era, the three ball era, and invented the Deluxe album. Let's give it up for LeBron James. No, but I grew up a big Kobe fan. I'm a Laker fan. Yeah, I love Kobe. Were you guys the same class, like in high school? No, but I just, just like with anything else, his Mamba mentality, that whole his aura was just like on the court, off the court. You know, I saw him off the court a few times. He just was someone that automatically just demanded that attention, man. Very detailed. Yeah. From me being around him, just even talking basketball with him. I remember having a full conversation about hooping with him, like after a game. So, rest in peace to the GOAT. I saw that you, maybe this isn't true, but that you did AAU growing up. Did you play against Sharif Abdur-Rahim? I know Sharif. That was because that's a streets will never forget like guy who I think is overlooked a lot in terms of just like an absolute killer. Sharif is a, he's definitely a killer. Sharif is, you know, with the G-League, he's involved with the G-League. He almost runs the G-League. I'm not sure what his, I don't want to get his title confused or messed up, but I literally just ran into him. I was walking out the restroom, he's walking in and won the College Park Skyhawks game in Atlanta, like, I don't know, not even a month ago. You're an owner, right? I'm a minority owner of the Skyhawks in Atlanta, yeah. Yeah, and that's your, that's your neighborhood that you grew up in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How's that feel? It feels wonderful, man, being, I don't know, five miles from my high school. Not even, I don't know, maybe five, six miles from my high school. Me being from the area, the owners of the Hawks. So, you know, noticing that, realizing that involved me into something new and refreshing for the city. So, yeah, it just, you know, it feels like I was at the right place at the right time. There's no reason to have a lot of money unless you have your own squad. That's my, that's my, like, take in life. If I ever. That's what most billionaires, that's how they think. If I ever have enough money, like, if you're just a billionaire and you don't have your own team, you're just, I don't know, what, trying to. I didn't look at it like that, but I'm sure as a billionaire, it's something that you have to do. It takes a lot of sex to let them know, like, I'm a, I'm a billionaire billionaire. I really, I want to get into your book. Tell me about, like, what growing up in College Park taught you and, like, you know, how, like, what it, how it molded you, I guess. College Park molded me in many ways. It taught me resilience. It taught me some independence. I did most of my adolescence growing up in College Park. I got there, you know, early ninth grade. Built a lot of relationships. You know, I got a lot of my social bandwidth from College Park, so it just means, you know, it means a lot. How, how did. like seeing atlanta become atlanta in terms of like national profile when it came to music it was like for for a while like when i was younger it was pretty coastal then i remember like there was outcast and goodie bop but like prior to the like beyond that like atlanta kind of there was no concept like i think maybe little john or something or like no we had like crunk crunk and like brought like uh and ludicrous maybe yeah ludicrous is after outcast and goodie no that's what i'm saying like the only concept anyone had uh beyond outcast and goodie mob they didn't really have a concept of music from atlanta until you saw like uh def jam south i would say yeah you had ti you had jeezy you had even before organized noise you had kilo we were listening to kilo getting ready today um gucci yeah so you just you know atlanta has went through different different periods and different eras but for the most part it's been sustainable and it's like we keep passing the torch to the next and that and that gives us like a lifeline too but i mean outcasts is when i think they won an award and andre said about south had something to say yeah and then it started being more intentional as far as what we were doing but atlanta has always been like a city for like growth and creativity musically have you seen music become less regional like for instance like too short like went platinum and he i think he sold like like uh 500 records on the east coast music could be west coast on the east coast i think on the west coast he's he went platinum oh but like so it was like so regional that you know like in the bay he was like were you famous and like a known quantity in atlanta for a while before you became nationally famous i think excuse me i was known in atlanta and not necessarily for my music i was known in atlanta because i'm like i played basketball i hustled i'm from the streets so yeah i would be outside i've had a i've had nice cars my whole since i've been driving you know i've been presenting myself in a nice you know way far as a tire and all that so a lot of people already assumed that i was doing something gonna do something they're gonna be something early on you can kind of see my trajectory coming up you had three cars in college i did how did you like get them there i drove one yeah it was in alabama so i would ride home with somebody else because alabama was two hours from atlanta and people would literally go almost dating you know what i'm saying it was two hours and it was an hour behind so you would lose an hour that's not bad yeah you know you'll leave and this is a question i had when i was reading the book i was like how the hell did he get the three cars up down to alabama yeah i know you thought i took a tow truck but i didn't it's literally like people it's like how did he do this another rap guy lying no i had a cadillac i had an expedition i just want to i just want to let you know i'm really i've really been having it like you're a division one athlete you weren't a rapper i said i was division one in the streets too yeah so i pull up expedition with the tvn with the beat ram eddie bauer pull up with the not the eddie bauer just a regular black expedition i didn't have an eddie bauer you know what i'm saying i had the eddie bauer had the left of mine and have left on the inside but once again i'm in college you had the xlt i had the xlt come on man come on you know my family come on man i had the xlt my family had that exposition yeah i had that and i'm wham wham wham watching you had the firestone tires do you remember that the explorer had those tires that kept exploding no no no no mine never exploded no no no thank god yeah yeah yeah and then i had a i had a um uh i want to say like a 93 it was it was blue um navy blue black in there with the rims with the gray leather and then i had a i say maroon some people say burgundy but i had a maroon box box chevy on rims and on monday you know wednesday and friday i swapped cars and then between tuesdays and thursdays because i was staying off campus i'm like but yeah yeah that was me yeah i'm a vulva vulva yeah yeah yeah my cousin had a book no he had a sob yeah those are nice cars yeah they discontinued the the varvel and the side were like because swedish yeah they looked they were so but they sold volvo to the chinese now everything isn't really yeah but i won't get too political with you right let's let's focus on the book for a second what is the thesis you want to get across like like what do you want people like to take away from this book this is my first um piece of literature that i'm putting out for the world to see and to consume it's called the voice in my head is god the book is not so much a religious book um it's about intuition yeah it's about me using intuition as a sixth sense it uh the voice in this title um it speaks to my conscience um my intuition and then when i say god it's me giving credit to someone much higher than myself me giving credit to something higher than my ego in this book i talk about how the voice in my head which is i assume it's intuition i assume that it's god because they say god is inside of you and you know um lessons come from within so this is just my presentation to the world and hopefully it helps someone um make decisions helps them make decisions based on their own divine guidance yeah trust your gut yeah yeah yeah you get it i mean that's like becoming a man basically you have like one too many relationships with a girl who's like i cheated on every boyfriend i ever had and you're like this time is different yeah yeah yeah you're right right right bro you like you you get it damn i'm different yeah yeah yeah that's exactly that's exactly what this is when bigger rappers would come through atlanta like you would serve like is that what you were doing prior to rapping yeah yeah actually can i can i show you something i have this weed dealer who wants to is that what is that right here what is the ashtray here the ashtray is kind of a classy kind of like 1960s kind of vibe i mean you could you could do uh we eat if you want okay i don't know can you uh yeah i mean if you want it okay cool okay i'll pick with you dude i'm not really honestly i don't smoke weed i just feel bad for this guy so i still buy weed from him because he's had a tough time what what i give it to i give it to the homeless that's a good idea so i've done that before too i've i've they've said they want something another and yeah yeah they didn't grab that they didn't grab my joint and went on about the business so i've done that before well you smoked like doinks and then you like uh like i saw your ashtray i saw your ashtray where it's it's very wasteful unless you give it to the homeless your roaches are like this long i think i should start doing that though well i mean it's just like i mean you're a wealthy gentleman and i'm not gonna if you if you're put a towel under the door someone jonah put a towel yo can i you don't own this building you like you could own this building your parents own this building right now my parents uh i want to be sarcastic like this is something your parents own right your parents are on something no no no come on what do you think i have literally like i literally got no benefits from jewish no i'm not going for it it's like it's a waste of time i would never believe that i swear to god you you the only person that's ever helped me out was an anti-semite named nick mullet what anyway so my weed dealer his name is ari stern he well this just well i guess he wants to be a musician too if i could play it for you can you tell me like uh whether or not i should keep it encouraging him no i don't want to hit that no i think you do want to hear this i don't want to hear that i think you might want to hear this it's very it's very i wouldn't hey let me tell you that what people need to hear it's a song people not not ready for that some people need to hear i'm just saying let me tell you this he asked me if i could play two chains his song about uh losing his son in custody he's what the so funny well baby should i tell him to keep going for it yeah it sounds like yes i'm sorry to disobey you know where i think it could work because somebody can relate to it yeah yeah because you like uh because a lot of people get divorced yeah well nah is people get they child you don't have to be divorced for your you don't have to be married to have kids yeah some people just do you know any guys that are like really too upset at like uh about at family court no i don't know gilbert arenas he used to tweet all this or instagram all the time about i'm the king of this family court he used to talk i'm like i'm like uh his kids going league yeah i like watching yep yeah his kid is like well he has a couple kids just like that yeah so i like i like watching him talk about basketball is is we got to get are you are you doing project kobe yeah halo will be going to the league till he's 10 years old he'll be gone is he tall like his father yeah I think he's tall you're going to the league young man I'm saying so he can he say I'm going yeah okay what's your game what's your like your pastor oh he's humble he's humble like his father yeah yeah right he's not he's not humble hey humble but he pop it - are you good at 2k I'll fry you I'll fry you immediately wait so I got his game up here in the room he just like talking like he take his game very well you're gonna say no to the where's my lighter cuz you know again get him a lighter and put it on my nerd get him a light you got me listening doing an orange shit we supposed to be talking about this guy lost his kids man I don't care I got my here's the song so somebody this is just dropping out all right all right all right all right go ahead I'm sorry you lost your kids I'm sorry it's not me it's the weed dealer lost his I'm sorry about it and I don't know if I should tell him to stop no tell me keep going because here's the thing in white in the white house all weed and I talked about in the white community if your drug dealer wants to become a rapper that sounds like the worst thing ever it sounds like he's the worst like oh so I didn't look you gotta hang out with him and then he wants to play you his music and it's just a punisher like you started stepping back when I let this weed up it bothers you dude no no don't worry about it I'll pick I picked on Saturday night I'm getting back is that what the that's what the Jewish brothers say no no New York New York bro it's a dead-ass New York style let's say better yeah yeah it's dead-ass New York did us what you say I don't want you to have no part of this okay so they got you want you in the NBA I got the buck weed up here though you say they got this I don't want you I don't want you going down this path your father and I are all don't want it at all for me for like one of the most like incredible moments that I ever witnessed was that like generational run that like Wayne was on like 2005 to 2008 right like dedication driving everything going up to the corner right and the first time I heard you was when he did the hook on duffel bag and you do can I can you want to hear you want to pivot up if yeah I don't think you need it come on bro I don't understand I've smoked weed before this ain't from New York so like you tell a story about like when you first met him right was it that you sold baby two zips mm-hmm and and what happened after that no so yeah I was in the studio recording and cash money baby knows guys on the other side don't look no no you hitting them off I see go ahead that's right you know what you do all right so anyway I was selling so there you go that's it I was went on that punch good old punch you guys be king of the jungle yeah one more man one more pimp good I'm good one more pimp bro you gotta do at least three bro you can't just do like two to two is to change you gotta do three for Adam I'm titty boy dude yeah come on hit a real woman hold it hold it hold it put me hold it hold it hold it hold it 10 9 oh my word 8 7 6 5 4 3 his glasses fogging up 2 1 yes sir wow around and found out huh I used to I tried so hard I'd be a stoner and I took like a month off and I realized and I try to blaze again and I realized I I was like I'm tripping on weed like all my all my tolerance had gone away mmm and I was like I became like a 14 year old again what about now how do you feel like you're I'm back to 14 yeah you know the J boys we loved piff the J boys that's cool is that that's cool to say I'll give you the past I ain't going for that you can say that J boys is cool no we used to love we used to love to piff and then listen to rap we put on Mitchell and s we burn we put one of the put on Mitchell in there yeah no let's go back to it though like like this Mitchell and s when y'all put on these jerseys like one of y'all dad be on the team or something like that no I got no benefits of J I'm telling you I'm not going for that what do you think I am from the Rothschilds no no no I why do you think I'm doing this you know you all right all right good so wait let's let's go back to the story let's go back to the story about wait what happened what happened oh the bathroom yeah it's around the court uh so wait so so cash money comes to Atlanta you remember I thought you forgot because I thought you think I thought you forgot I was gonna let your story go by but it's a very funny story oh yeah it's like a kind of an anecdote that you we clip we'll say like truce like 2 Chainz true story we put like a like lo-fi I want to tell the day come on dude we'll find some more can I tell the story for you so he's so he sells two ounces of marijuana young man I don't stick to never mind okay and then a baby doesn't pay you for it and then they're like we're going to Atlanta or New Orleans fuck I am high okay we're going to New Orleans and and you're like fine I'll ride with you and then you first met Wayne there in a door swimming pool he piffed and then at a certain point you're like I really do need that $900 and then he paid you yeah that's a great story thanks bro that's great let me tell you about his story I know when it like I guess like it was the first moment you knew that you were a known entity like outside of your home city and like how did it dawn on you I was like oh man I'm so high I'm interested no no no when I knew I was you know I think it was when I started to it was before it was probably before I got my record deal honestly because I was so hot in the streets doing like mixtapes and yeah and and just touring the chitlin market I would go to different cities the Carolinas Tennessee yeah and yeah I mean and people would just be with fan out man you know people before I even got my record deal I was the words they would knew the words they they knew to be here because they would try to follow the vehicles on side of like real fan stuff so I was having fan experiences prior to get my record deal and I started realizing that this was something that I wanted to do before I got my record deal and I started realizing that this was something that was going to be a little something that was going to be a little bit larger than what than I expected yeah was that Dante or were you ready I prayed for it so I believe it could happen you believed mm-hmm yeah you retired your your mom's oh yeah my mom I worked in I don't know how many years I'm gonna work in a long time yeah are you you're close with your mother yes sir that's the first day before two chains titty boy titty boy name from the family you know nothing derogatory towards women got it from no it's sweet like being a sport brother you know that's a great titty baby like breastfeeding yeah from your mom oh yeah and in this case just being up under her so much like yeah not giving her a minute to do really anything and that was kind of what I was known for early on yeah me too I was a mama's boy really yeah I was breastfed until like 18 19 years you got any siblings over I do have a younger sister I'm the oldest we have the same birthday four years apart swear yeah what prompted you to like rebrand reinvent yourself me looking at business and we have a mentors in the business space and noticing how the businesses rebrand every three to five years so I treat the to change brand as a business so every two to three years if it's not logo it's something I'm doing to just the marketing is something I'm doing to just bring new light to me and what I have going on yeah it was also like titty boy like you couldn't say it on like the news or something at the time now you can no yeah at that time you couldn't but I would go to the radio and and because when I got my record deal I just was like I guess I'm titty titty whatever you know people would you got to think a lot of people automatically go into situations thinking negative and you have to make them well I thought it was you know you're fat growing up I thought it was like a fat kid with with titties and then I was like it was about like that you're close with your mother yeah I'm not landing yeah no I wasn't saying it as a bit I really thought it because we had friends I had friends like that growing up and now I've been slender a long time it just was the point that I was an only child that's why I said did you have siblings because I that's why I - Yeah. - I was the only child, so. - Yeah, no, I mean, for sure, like, when I found out you were a Division I athlete, I assumed you weren't Titty Boy. Or perhaps that's how you stopped being Titty Boy, by getting incredible at basketball. - Well, no, I guess. - We're high, dude. - You're high. - No, you're fuckin', you're off your rocker right now. - No, man, I do this for, I literally, you know, I smoke just, I smoke casually throughout the day. Now you, you leanin' back, you bouncin' in a chair, you got one leg up. - I can't, I'm not comfortable being like this on the camera right now, and I'm getting a little self-conscious. - Your legs crossed, you tweaking, you scratchin' your face. - I'm not tweaking. Oh, I'm fine. - One of them took somethin' else. - I'm fine. - You know, this shit done amplified whatever you took. - So you got straight A's in high school? - Did you? - You did. - Did you, though? - No. - Really? - No. - I assume that Jewish people just had good grades in school. - You're putting your foot in it right now, accidentally. - No, I just assumed, I assumed that Jews, I just assumed this. - No, my, I guess we did. - It's assumed, it's like, I'm assuming this. - Yeah, there are a lot of harmful stereotypes like that, like getting great grades, being-- - You dropped out of school? - No, I went to college, but my whole thing was, 'cause my parents wanted A's, I would try to finesse it to like, doing the least amount of work to get an A. I wasn't like, I didn't think of school as like, you learn there. I was like, it's like a game. Yeah, we used to do cheat, we used to cheat, we used to like, yeah. - Really? - Me and my friends would game the system, but we were also smart, yeah. We were just like, it's like a cost-benefit analysis. We're like, we could, and we'd still do well on the exams at the end of the year, but like, it was like out of, it was like trying to beat the system a little bit. That's how Jews, it's called white-collar crime, yeah. It's like, that was my first experience, yeah. At the end of the year, you do a, it's not important. Why are we talking about it? At the end of the year, you do a test called the Advanced Placement-- - We're talking about the system, brother, and how people get around the system. We're talking about how people get around the system, brother. - If you didn't tap me there, I would've died. - We're talking about the man and the system. - Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. - Yeah, okay. - No, it's like, we're like, I mean, when Jews came to America, they were just criminals. 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Going off, going back to you realizing you were well-known, like something about you that I think is so resilient and the reason I think you're, if you trust one man's opinion, is that like your skill and your presentation seems like both effortless and not lazy, you know? And that's, was that your style throughout or did you have to like find your style to begin with? I've always been like this. So you knew your voice, like you're, like you've never like tried other, like other styles, I suppose. I'm so blessed, dude. It's crazy. It's so embarrassing. You put an answer as if I'm not. But you asked for it. They're not listening, dude. They're not listening. But you asked for this stuff. I know, because I thought. You asked for this experience. You know, you're a fan. You smoke with, you smoke with Tony, man. I used to be great at smoking weed, dude. Yeah. When I saw There Will Be Blood, I, I, too, to the face. What's your take on shrooms? You ever tried shrooms? Yeah, yeah, I have, certainly, yeah. What'd you think, what'd you think about it? If you do like an eighth of shrooms and do a proper, like, trip, I always like, sometimes will feel like everyone in my life hates me and then when I leave a room, they all start making fun of me. That's how it is. That's how you think. But if you do a little bit of shrooms, I found that it's, it's kind of pleasant and nice and you're not, you're happy and you laugh a lot. Yeah, an eighth is crazy, too, though. Yeah, in college, we used to, I did shrooms in college in Mission Impossible, the scene where, like, he's, like, on the wire and it was one of the most afraid I've ever been in my entire life. You were afraid. Yeah, for Tom, for Ethan Hunt. You were afraid for Tom Cruise. Yeah, I didn't want him to get in trouble. I wanted him to cheat. Well, yeah, crazy. Anyway, but, like, going back to you, like, like, are you, to what extent are you, like, aware of the concept that, like, you've been on songs with, like, the biggest rappers of your time and you've kind of killed, a lot of the time killed it harder than them? Does that register or are you, like, I'm just, I'm on the team? No, I know I'm, I'm fine. I'm like that. You know, I get that. You know when you've bodied everyone. Mm-hmm. You won't say the songs, though, right? No, it's just, that's how I'm coming. Mercy a little bit. Mercy? Yeah. Yeah, I had the best, I mean. You know you did. Yeah. You'll say it? Wow. Did I say I had the best work? Yeah, because that's, like, a legendary. Yeah, of course I had the best work. Yeah, yeah. What was it, Ye was, like, very good to you very early on, is that correct? Mm-hmm. How did you guys meet? Like, what was your? I was making noise in the streets, putting out mixtapes, and. What year was it? Man, this is a good one. I would say maybe either 2010 or 2011. So after graduation? Yeah, before my first album. 808, actually, what did 808 say? This is before my first album. Okay, cool. So my first album came out in 2012, so we met way before. So probably 2011 or late 2010 or something. Yeah. To where we built the rapport, and it was through the music that I was putting out in the streets. Yeah. Through my mixtapes, started building a rapport, talking on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Found some creative ideas. What did he teach you? He's a genius. A lot, bro. Yeah. I don't think you can just name something he taught you just by being around him. He has a very high level of everything from architect to engineering, not just music. You know what I mean? So it's just like art. Also just as a producer. Yeah, art. Yeah, all of that. So just, you know, I've definitely. And then I'm someone that tries to learn something in different when I'm. Around the Wayne era or whoever I'm around that has more knowledge in that particular department or more experience. I come with my eyes and my ears open. That's what Kobe used to do, right? With like legends. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you. I think you should study him. I don't. I do less talking when I'm around certain individuals and more listening. Kanye is like my favorite. I like. I think it's not said enough, but he could very. Very well be the best producer, you know, ever. People like talk about him. His rap career is like so like massive, but like the beats that he's made just like throughout his career. Like, I think the best. Yeah, I think he's really dope at curating. He convinced you to up your fee for featuring. For my feature? Yeah. I mean, maybe he did. What do you what do you tell you to up it to? I don't know. I was this was when I was doing a lot of features at the time. And. I would come in studio sessions with him. And then, like, go to another room. And I got to knock out this feature. So it started being something that was not getting in my way, but it was something that I was doing so common. And so I think his idea was just to put a high number on it. So it would just. Yeah. Limit. Because at that time. You've done a week. In a week. Yeah. In your life. I don't know, man. I can. I don't know. I don't know. Probably 10 or 12 or something. Times that by 100,000. It's Henry Swope. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Because. 1.2 million dollars. Oh, yeah. He wanted me to judge. Yeah. But yeah. The chart. I was. I was charging. But that was when. Because what happens is you work with artists that you're one fans of and that you plan on working with. So sometimes when you do that, you just do swap out. You'll just swap it out. Yeah. Like, you know, whenever you need me. But then it became a point where you just charge because you're not going to swap. And even now I have. I don't know how many swaps. I don't know. Maybe two years ago. I did like the update to see how many people actually owe me versus and some of that. Some of the people on those lists. I don't even want nothing. I don't even want a verse. I don't want a verse from Jason Derulo. He owes you a verse. Did I charge? I don't know if you charged it, but you were on a massive song. But you know what? That song is almost diamond. That'd be my. So I had to figure out like that. It worked. Does it sound like Jewish to you a little bit? Does what sound Jewish? That song. It does kind of. That was my reference point. At least I was like, what is this? I don't know. I don't. I don't. You know, musically. What? What is the Jewish background of music? Lesber. Lesber. Klesber. Klegsberg. Yeah, kind of. One more time. Klesber. Klesmer. Yeah. You want to hear it? It sounds like Jason Derulo. Talk 33. Play it. All right. I'll put it on. You want to hear this, but not my weed dealers reggae song about family. So what you about to play is a Jewish artist? No, this is a style. It's like a. I don't know. I think it's kind of not bad. It's kind of like Radiohead a little bit. I can't believe I just said that. That's so embarrassing, Hunter. Did you hear me say that? It's kind of like Radiohead. I'm so lit. OK. I'll put like, I guess I don't know. That's the style of music. Yeah. That's what you and your boys was pipping to. No, no, no. We were listening to Paul's Dropout, Black Album, Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, y'all listen to our music? Yes. Of course. We're Jewish, Jewish boys. Yeah. It's like this. Like Jason Derulo. No, that's not. It does sound like that. What instrument is that? I think a clarinet. You know, Woody Allen plays clarinet. Anyway, it's kind of fire, though. You could get the reference to Jason. Jason Derulo track. You do get it, though, right? Yeah. Am I bodying this or am I bombing this right now? Wait. So I like what I would suppose is like, do you ever like have a feeling if you crush it on like another person's track, like you're like, it's like I'm giving them like a great song. Yeah, I have thought about that before. Like, I should say this verse for me. This is a great song. I mean, this is a great verse or something like that. I have said some dope stuff on other people's song, but ultimately I think it's something that's dope. Yeah. Or if you're like on a song, I imagine with like other killers, you just want to kill the hardest. Absolutely right. It's like it's like when the Gary Glenn Ross, the this movie where it's like all the best actors. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why I said that. We should watch it together, though. I'm not watching the movie with you. Jack Lemmon. Good work, Adam. Matt. Keep up the good work. Alex Chino. Alex Baldwin. The movie sounds good, but like me and you watching the movie is crazy. It's like mercy. It's like you're on that track with the other best. I understand everything you're saying. I think even listening to mercy together for me is crazy. Like we shouldn't be doing none of that. We shouldn't be watching the movie. We shouldn't be. We shouldn't be. We shouldn't be. We'll see how you feel in 13 minutes. How do you feel? I feel great. Honestly, this is one of the. This is one of the funniest things ever. What would you do after this? I'm impaired right now. I know. I have to go back to work. I have to edit the Gavin Newsom episode. Oh, you had Gavin promote. this book he came over here yeah you're the second book promoter did you yeah I feel like yeah I feel like I don't know why I'm in this let me ask you this let me ask you this let me ask you this okay we're totally gonna watch a movie I feel like it's turning no you crazy I think we are had Gavin Newsom on here right yeah he's gonna be the president maybe look at him all right so listen you was acting like that when he was up here by his book I didn't piff dude I was all right before the piff you gotta say look for you use your network that's why I'm on here use your network no this is a independently produced kind of punk rock style place you're at right now we're outside the system kind of selling it out the trunk if you will yeah I got him I got it finally do you have any advice for me young man whoo get get secure chill out he needs a cure oh my god having a kid told me to chill out from smoking weed it's not straight no it's not for everybody I know do you see this is what I'm saying okay everybody my kids probably need to see that cuz they've known that man definitely gonna mess with this man that's doing this for him right now no you know I'm doing it for the future he's the future of this country yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he matters more than us yeah yeah what was it like having your kids are like rich my kids are rich yeah yeah like by proxy of like yeah I teach my kids to really be rich from the inside out so they got a good foundation inside and they not really like I mean this you worry about being spoiled you just be cutting people off no I was gonna ask that do you worry about them being spoiled I mean yes and no but at the same time you don't want them to experience what you experience so they gonna have a higher level and more experiences than you did coming up so I think my wife and I did a good job of putting them in a certain light right but you know as they get older we'll take our hands off the steering wheel and kind of or take the training wheels off and let them learn on their own as well that's lovely I can tell you talk about my book cuz I know to get I'm gonna look at the gaps Gavin Newsom episode I'm gonna see a completely different thing talk about I'm a fan of yours talk about book I got it okay so wait you mentioned your grandmother like shot at the police and then you never followed that up can you tell us more because I wasn't there bro I heard this story from wait so what's the story though I just wanted to know more my grandma was so bootleg liquor and wow and this is before I guess you could get liquor and I guess the police was coming to ass or something up from my assumption she shot at them shot at them pulling up so the boys I'll do it yeah sit back bro I have a book that's very important to me it's very very very important to me I'm the author of this book it's called the voice in my head is God they took me over two years to write this book it's very introspective and it's very detailed as far as my life experiences in my journey it has the title God in it but it's not necessarily like a religious book I don't have like scriptures in it I do have stories of the times that I either left a relationship meaning business or whatever or stayed in one too long I just let people in on the way that I think the way that I move and I think that this piece of literature can help my community navigate through their daily experiences by listening to the divine guidance that they have inside of them and they can help you from everything through business decisions heartbreak what shoes you should wear everything from top to bottom so yeah that's how you do that okay that's how you do your editing can we be like so tell me about the book that's cap no I just showed you just let's get it clean so tell me about the book oh wait I want to were there stories that didn't relate or that didn't make the book yeah yeah yes what what I think I have a lot of stories that just didn't make the book this the ultimately the book ultimately the book is me telling stories through the lens of this voice in my head and how something told me if you've ever said something told me to do something to say something something told you to something what told you did did what told you to do this I thought it'd be cool I thought you I thought it was slam dunk yeah so something told you to do that all right so sometimes the voices sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes the voice could clearly be off depending on who you are so you have to like you know oh yeah when I blaze I I think about everything I say throughout the day and I'm like you suck yeah I go through my entire day but I think you say stuff and you don't fear the consequences because I'm delusional yeah yeah because you know your family got money right no they really don't have money I bought my dad's house yeah so the Jewish kids can't like oh yeah parents will know it's well yeah no it's I'm just gonna just I'm gonna learn at this point they're not plugged they're not plugged yeah why not but don't you like have like friends of the family that like help no no no because we're not from America yeah okay we're not like connected yeah yeah uh but now that I have agents and obviously they're Jewish yeah yeah or managers yeah yeah but I've like earned it through whatever this is through being great at asking your questions yeah you're absolutely the top wait wait can I ask a good question then let's try that let's try a good one bro let's see what you got what is this this is one of those shows dude this is like getting along best friends then watch a movie afterwards show yeah you just laughing at this thank you your wife is she's that's how we watch comedy so we laugh at two different things your favorite comedy that's not that's not my question I don't know man how do you mark like evolving and growing as an artist like you obviously want to top yourself each time right uh so like what are your markers of like a progression that like is there a moment where you're satisfied or is there a moment where it's like I'll never be satisfied yeah I think it's hard to put a glass ceiling on passion yeah yeah I think when you just love something it's hard to really you know find that end all you know for me at least yeah you know yeah so you always you know you wake up every day thinking you know you could take it up a notch you can go up a level you're delusional when you're a creative you just you know you you you you wake up and then you yeah you hope that that day brings you an idea that you you know that you can reap the benefits off of so yeah um when when did you consider you fully like uh accepted tapped in that God was that God I feel like I've been tapped in for you know it's not been a very long time but I can it I think it took life experiences and the outcome for me to come to a conclusion that this voice in my head has helped me navigate through some of the toughest times and torn more than my life yeah and it got stronger absolutely right you got it clear it got clearer clear yeah uh you think that's what like uh maturing like that's the point of it yeah I think so too I kind of wrote a book like that at 20 some years old yeah go through some stuff yeah um you seem remarkably like grounded for like someone as famous as yourself yeah like uh is this the method and means of you maintaining like a level an even keel I think it could have some secret sauce in that book I think it could I think I could be and who knows you know this is my opinion this is my personal belief yeah so I think what works for people is whatever they believe in this is what I truly believe in this is how I truly be operating so ultimately you know it changes the way one person yeah navigates throughout the day and they pay more attention to that's something told me boys have you said it to any like uh any people you know you're like I think you might have you said it to any baby bros maybe tell them to keep their heads straight oh man I think I've definitely sent out some advanced copies um I've also had this conversation with people before writing the book so that's what gave you the idea well yeah yeah all right last question is there a sneak diss perhaps a sneak this yeah in that book no there's one line where the the one guy on Earth reads it and he knows he's like oh this book about positive vibes man and uplifting well I I think it's a it genuinely is a great thing you've shared with people and I think it's like the I know you're saying it's just your opinion but I think it's pretty universal to learn how to like accept your your intuition and uh and accept that you're like life is kind of lucky at certain points and so you have to like trust your gut trust your gut yeah what is the biggest inflection point like that in your entire life where you it could have gone one of two directions dramatically different I've had a couple of those crossroads bro I've had a couple of them yeah that you know at that particular time it probably led me somewhere that I felt was dark ultimately leading me to the light and then I've made decisions based off just uh good night's rest and this is what I'm going to do so I've had a few pivots throughout my life that have came yeah you know through that process I got it together you're not together but it's okay I got it together at the end there you gotta give you gotta give me all right okay cool am I saying no no you've got a cosine you have to tell the people that you're like I'm impressed by the by the tenacity and the all right how many hands I got you have two hands okay you don't have visuals from weed I'm just trying to make sure it is exotic I will I will uh attest to that this is okay but you look like a man when I leave you're gonna be punching it you're gonna be punching yourself man you'll be like damn I got high as hell and I'm already knowing how you're gonna be personally who's that hunter let me tell you how you and hunter right there let me tell you how like uh like uh delusional I am I'm not even gonna do that I'll be like that was awesome yeah you're honestly you didn't I know out of my mind all right my guy I thought honestly bro clap for him that is that is going to cut together so fun what an unmitigated disaster one of my personal heroes two chains hated my guts and to make matters worse I was high on illegal marijuana I had to get out of there I ducked out of the studio my head was full of dangerous negative self-talking horrible unspeakable things that I was telling myself like you stink things like that and it all went black where was I what what had happened you know before technology like the cell phone or the mailman were invented carrier pigeons used to be used by humanity to communicate for thousands of years these pigeons don't know that they're carrying a correspondence for a general or a star-crossed lover all they know is that they need to go home they're unaware of the magnets in their heads guiding their path or the sun serving like a compass pigeons only know one thing no matter how far they started they could always find their way home I'm Adam Friedland and I'll be back next week I promise I'm going to go home. 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