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#192 - Edy Modica and Marley Gotterer

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#192 - Edy Modica and Marley Gotterer

In this episode of StarVee's World, hosts welcome comedians Edie Madica and Marley Goddard for a lively, unfiltered conversation. They begin with banter about last names, comedy specials, and the streaming platform Veeep, which features stand-up performances. Marley shares her work at a camp for autistic transgender teens, where she teaches comedy and soccer, comparing her experience to a "Harry Potter" world she missed growing up in Western Massachusetts. Edie discusses her family's chaotic background, including her grandmother's flophouse and an uncle who avoided court by being in the hospital, and her comedy special's personal, authentic style. The conversation shifts to middle school bullying, cyberbullying, and tattoos, with Edie revealing a Hamza tattoo she regrets. They explore themes of authenticity in comedy, appearance, and the pressure on women to look a certain way, with Edie preferring to be relatable rather than "hot." The hosts then take listener calls. One caller asks about touching his wife's butt; they advise open communication outside of sex. Another caller, who has a history of abuse toward his brother and sister-in-law, wants to make a joke in his best man speech; the hosts strongly urge a sincere apology instead. A third caller deals with a friend feeling excluded at a techno festival after bringing his girlfriend, with suggestions to compromise or include a bigger group. Finally, a woman in a male-dominated workplace seeks advice on handling gossip about her friendliness, leading to a discussion on workplace dynamics and stereotypes.

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(upbeat music) Welcome everybody to StarVee's World 904 800 stop. Call the StarVee's World hotline sponsored by Visible and we'll answer all your problems. On the couch today, we have Edie Madica and Marley Goddard. Thanks for being here, Gals. - Thank you so much for having us. - Thank you very much. - What are you gonna do on those last names? - 'Cause Modica. - Modica. - You could be Modica. - Modica. - My uncle used to say Modica to give it like a spin. - It was a spin, but it's Modica. - I used to say it. - Modica. - Modica, it could be a girl I went to high school with. That is true. - In high school, I would say Modic. (laughing) - Good morning. - You got me. - Honestly, it worked on me. - Yeah. - You were doing it as like, can you believe it? And I didn't catch that at all. - Yeah. - I was like, wow. That was funny. - Modic. - Modic. (laughing) - Was it like, uh, like this? Or was like, ah. - Oh, that's true. - You're doing better. - Yeah. - You needed me in middle school. (laughing) - I would have fucked you up. You actually did mine perfectly. - I was impressed. - I was like, there's no way you would have got it. - Yeah. - I just went out on a limb, so it feels good. - It feels good. - It feels good to have got it really good. (laughing) - And we do want you to say up top, Eatie's got a special, which our pal Benny butchics worked on. (laughing) I'm just like you and it sucks. - Thank you for saying that. - Yeah. (laughing) - Did you see it? - Did you see it? - It was fun. - Thank you. - It's really funny. - It's so good. - Go watch that, folks. Available on, of course. - Veeep. - Don't go. (laughing) - Oh my god. (laughing) - Okay. - Veeep. Veeep. (laughing) - Can we get some fucking-- (laughing) - Thank you. Thank you. (laughing) - Yeah, they're begging me. - And that is a website that has old episodes of Veeep on it. And that also shows your-- - Stop it! (laughing) - Wait, you got me. (laughing) - Okay, maybe I will get a subscription. - It is a live show's website that you can subscribe to. - Oh, it's kind of like, what is it, Netflix? - Yeah, it's similar. - My dad, the other day, was literally like, he was like, "And when does it come out, out?" (laughing) And I was like, in September, and he was like, "All right, that's what I'll tell people." (laughing) - Your dad won't even plug it. - He was like, "Oh, no, he said to me, "Well, Eddie, not everyone doesn't have Veeep." (laughing) I was like, "Yeah!" (laughing) - You shouldn't get, I will say they do put a lot of good specials on there. A lot of very funny people have gotten their names on there. - Name for you. - Name for you. - Be twice, Blair Socky. (laughing) - Yes, and Carmen Christopher and Katherine Cohen. - Katherine Cohen. There we go. - Honestly, when I saw Katherine Cohen had it on there years ago, and I remember being like, "Oh, shit." - Yeah. (laughing) - Oh fuck, she's putting her shoes on. - But now it's like it's a reputable upside. (laughing) - Run by the big Charlotte people. - Is that so? - Yes, the Charlotte brothers. - Oh, well, you didn't say you didn't lead with that. - Well, I just found it out quite recently. - That it's fucking, what are their names? Wal-Dorf, Maryland's own. - Oh, yes. - Wal-Dorf. - Wal-Dorf, Maryland. - That's the playing with Dirk. - Real white trash, though. - Okay. - Oh, Wal-Dorf, like, place. - Wal-Dorf, yes, yes. - Okay, Wal-Dorf. - Wal-Dorf. - It's funny because the Wal-Dorf is storyals. - Yeah, that is true because those are fancy. But Wal-Dorf, Maryland is, it's maybe the worst white trash. - Really? - It's a very specific kind. - I wouldn't say worse. - Like what? It's kind of like, it's getting southern. It's like regular like, like east coast city white trash with like a southern twist to it, you know? 'Cause they're a little further away from major cities. It's kind of between DC, it's, you know, it's like sort of a DC suburb, but not really, it's not really near anything with real culture. So, you know, it's just, yeah, white trash. - Come on, DC has culture. - DC's discussed. - Oh my. - DC's one of the worst fucking towns of all. I mean, it's, it does have culture 'cause of the museums and shit, but man. - The spy museum? - Yes, that's my culture. (laughing) - That's my fucking culture. - That's a good-ass museum. When you're a child, spy museums where you wanna go. - Yeah, that's true. - I mean, I haven't been there as an adult, but I'm sure it's still, it's fire. (laughing) - They got the little microphones on the little microphone. - Yeah, yeah. - The spy museum, I bet you it holds up. I haven't been in, I haven't been in a while either. The rest of it though, the Smithsonian's a shit, that's pretty good, but anyway, fuck wall door for fuck the good Charlotte brothers. Actually, I just changed my mind. - Fuck you. - Fuck you. (laughing) - Fuck you. - Where did you grow up, Marley? - Western Massachusetts. - Western Massachusetts, we're talking. - Yeah, kind of like small town. - Eastern. - No, no, no. - That's Eastern, but Western because it's not Boston. So I'm like, almost like New York, yeah, yeah. It's like, so far West. - So far West, that it also feels like, it feels like a completely different place. - It's like, it's really, it's a beautiful, sad, lonely place, but in the summer, it's like a lot of, you know, New Yorker kind of culture of like theater and arts and stuff. - I'm actually there right now, 'cause I'm working at this camp for mostly, let's say Autistic Transgender Teenagers. - Wow, that's awesome. - There are freeze, they like magic. The gathering, it looks amazing. - It's pretty much such a special place and it's sad that I grew up 30 minutes from there and I had no idea it occurred. - I was going on, that's like, that's not new. - I would be totally different if I went there. - That's like if Harry Potter grew up four minutes from Hogwarts and had no idea. - That's like, it's definitely like Harry Potter. It's like, JK Rowling is, I am literally like JK Rowling. Like, I'm serving JK Rowling. Down. - Hell yeah, what's the programming for the, for the little Autistic Teenagers? - Well, I'm actually gonna do comedy with them this week. So we're gonna do comedy, like comedy writing and then they wanna do a comedy show, but I also do like drag stuff as well. But I'm also gonna do World Cup Soccer. - Okay. - They have to run. - 'Cause they all have chains, they all have fake chains. - Oh my god. - They're fake, the dazzles came in. The teens have fake heels problems. - Oh, more so then. - Let me guess. - It's like, there are days of K-20, a lot of N, Mast, N24, Mast. - Yes, N95, N95, maybe 24 as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, they got the masks. They have the white kid, the hijabi white kid. - Of course, of course, of course. - We have all of it, and it's so special. - That's beautiful. - It's so special, and they're all such geniuses. - That's awesome. - But I'm kind of there of being like, 'cause I went to a sports camera growing up. So I'm like, let's run. I'm like kicking their canes and making them do that. (laughing) - I like that, 'cause that's like, you bully them almost like an acceptable amount that they can get over. It's like what a vaccine is, where it's like a little bit of the disease. - A little dose. - You die. - They do need to be bullied a little bit, 'cause the world will bully them. - Well, it's too much of a utopia, then they're gonna go back, and it's just that. - Exactly, yes. - Like, it's like, they come from anti-voxville, and I'm like, vaccinating the fuck out of them. - Right, right, right, right. - Are they kissing? (laughing) - Ooh, that's a good question. - They are. - They are, they're death, they're in like, there's like, T-boy polycules for sure. (laughing) - It's like, oh, that's so amazing. - I'm just, oh, I remember going to camp and thinking it was gonna be like, everything you heard about, where it's like, people, 'cause all my friends that went to like, Jewish camp, they were all getting jerked off. That seemed to be clashing. - Right. - And then I went to Christian. - Well, sorry, not to put it in there. - They're getting jerked off by the other guys. - Oh, really? - The girls aren't jerking them off. - That's a not Jewish camp. - The guys are jerking off the guy. - Is that maybe your experience at Jewish camp? - I don't know. (laughing) - Let me just say, just a little more. (laughing) - Yeah. (laughing) - I'm like, no, the closeted women are jerking off on the guys. (laughing) - 'Cause I didn't hear that much about that. I'm not, you know, I don't wanna, 'cause to me, that was not that big a sell as a eighth grader. I was like, if they were like, oh, we're all jerking each other, I'm gonna-- - You wouldn't take it from anyone. Maybe if you caught me in, there were-- - I would have got you. - Yeah, maybe if a secret girl at the time, you know what I mean? Like if I could have picked up on that energy for half. - Everybody for half. - Because I'm an empath. I could have told you, I was like, no. Some about this guy, I don't know, man. Let's check back in 10 years. And maybe I'm not gay after all. Maybe I'm not gay, second reality. - I knew it, I knew there was something normal about me. - Checking on the guy that jerking me off in middle school and being like, come on, come on, come on, friends. (laughing) - Wow, that is killing me. - Well, all it's funny, you say that because everybody that went to my camp was from Baltimore. - Oh, wow. - It was like a heavy Baltimore. - You know how I know. - Exactly. - Oh my, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I wonder, let's compare notes. - Yeah, I don't go through my middle school textbook. - No, I definitely, and I'll draw their deck. (laughing) - That's who I heard it from though. These kids that would go to like, these Baltimore like my Jewish friends who the reasons I even went to a bar mitzvah, those guys, they would come home. They would come in the fall with awesome stories about getting jerked off. And I had been in Greece getting tan, eating gyros. I had a good summer too. - Yeah. - And I wasn't getting jerked off on social media. - Yeah. my parents, I was like, there was a Greek, there was like a vacate, there was like a Greek, they called it CSE, some Christian, something like a Christian summer camp. Is that, is it that easy? I don't like it. Some are C S Christian, but anyway, doesn't matter, they actually, it does not matter whatsoever. I went there and it just, yeah, it was just kind of boring. It's dead. Yeah, I was like, they were actually teaching this Bible shit and I was like, what? I thought this was just a free tense. There were girls, yeah, yeah. But I don't think anybody, even like the cool guys weren't really getting, they're maybe kissing and it's like, we're getting, we're letting these Jews fucking embarrass us. I know. We're supposed to be working up stuff one down too. I know. Because there would be like two straight guys. Yeah. We used some moan in this one guy's here. Oh my God. Oh my God. And he would get, he was in once on this island, this is like a rumor that like, he was lying down in like the dress and once on this island and got a boner and that's what made it known. It was like, oh, so he's the guy we should like go for now, because he's been out. Yes. Yeah. This pissed me off too, because I, I had a moment where I decided I was going to pretend to be a cool jock guy in middle school, like I didn't, I've said this, I've said this a hundred times. I feel like on this recently feels like I tell this story every episode. But anyway, I did not get the part and you're a good man, Charlie Brown. And then I was like, acting gay, actually, I'm a jock. And I quit. But now I was hearing these stories, it's like, my life was so clear what I should have done was be the straight guy in theater camp. Yes. And obviously would have been a star. And all of the girls would have been like, oh my God, he's funny because I'm like, look at my life. I like that kind of you now. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But I needed it. Is it, you know what? If I'd done it then, I'd be like, I'd be like, you know, honestly, I would be a lawyer. You would honestly probably be toxic and not like you wouldn't have that suffering in this. That's true. I needed to suffer at that point in my life. Were you bullied? I was bullied up until I realized there was like a moment. It was these same, these same Jewish guys who would talk about like, they would come, they would talk about it. And then they would, they, they bullied me. You have such a Jewish trauma. I do. I do. I love that. Well, no, there was a specific, it's just these specific guys who like, this one kid who would brag about, you know, whatever and then he would, I would get bullied. And then at a certain point, I realized, like, wait, why don't I just bully them? Like, there was like a, there was a clear turning point where I was like, right, what are we doing? You like to make out what? What? What? What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was like, wait a second. You're, you're like a little guy. I'm at least a fat guy. And then people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then it's also the thing where you don't know you're going to be good at something. But I didn't know the cruelty that I had that I keep at bay now at all times, but that allows me to roast people effectively. I had no idea I had that in me until you're forced to, until you've just, yeah, until you've just been called a fat pig too many times in a row, then then you're like, wait, I'm just going to flame you. Right. Yeah. You're fucking parents. See, I feel like, you know, wait a second. I just remember you're fucking parents of us. Your mom has huge tits. And I can tell you about how awesome they are and how much we all want to suck them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, fuck. I feel like being mean. I realized how funny that was. And then I went too far and like hurt someone close to me. Oh, absolutely. And then I was like, okay, okay. I had my English teacher in school, like in sixth grade, I was like the fat little bullied kid that she had to like, she'll be in eighth grade. She was like, I am ashamed of like she was like, you are not the young man. I knew it. Yeah. Because I was lighting kids up. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. So hard for a teacher. Yeah. She's like, I nourished her to just make this little boy until he became a monster. No, I know. It's like, I definitely was like calling people faggots and then one day I was like, wait, what if I am that? And then also, it's like, I would, I mean, I don't know if this was y'all, but it was like, it was like, Facebook, sixth grade. Like, I was like, I think I was the first cyber bully. I do think I was the first cyber bully, but in a way that it was like, you know, I'm having some conversations with like the one other person in line, like the other nerd, like the other Jewish nerd. I'm bullying the other Jewish. Right. Right. And that's how it had to be. That was what it was for me as well. I went to Baltimore City Public Schools and I was like, well, I'm at least going to be the coolest white guy. You're not going to let other white people bully me. Are you fucking kidding me? And so that was really, that was a nice one. Oh, yeah, I'm obviously calling Jewish people, like, yeah, yeah, at the time, this was pretty strong. Yeah, yeah. In the 2000s, you guys had kind of been there and then, you know, you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're getting your homes off. So I am. I have a Hamza tattoo on my foot. It needs to go. It's giving Israel a heart, it's the hands, it was the eye, the hand with the eye. It was my first tattoo. I was, yes, literally I found it on Google images. You can probably find it. My cousin, his first tattoo, when he turned 18 and went to the Marines, huge homes on it. Yeah. Like, I was a spiritual Marine. It's, I'm a Marine that's been to Burning Man. Don't bring up Burning Man to me. So Hamza, see, to me, I would not, I don't associate with Israel at all. So I mean, there's like vaguely Indian, you know, I mean, like yoga, eat pre-love white women. Yeah. I literally think I saw it and I was like, that is so fucking cool, right? And I love that I'm a Jewish girl, right? And I'm gonna, I need that the second I turn 18, I need it on my foot and I was like, hand on my foot. Like, that was a part of it. Nope. I hand on my foot. And now when I see, like, people who have this, it's like, oh yeah, there's something. No, it was co-opted. Like, I do because the evil eye is also like, I feel like an other cultures used and then I think, yeah, the evil eye, I think Hamza is used in Jewish culture, but then it's, yeah, it's protective. Yeah. Yeah, evil eye, it's like, talk to the hand kind of. The evil eye is like, it gets the, the evil, because Greeks love the evil eye. And that's purely like, if somebody's talking shit, it's basically a shit. It's a shit talking deflector. Yeah. Yeah. For real. Yeah. And my grandma, she would do the, they would call it the, um, someone has eyed you. God, you've been, you've been said when Matyaksi, and then they de eyed you is what they call sex and Matyazune. And so my grandma would just be like, she'll just be like under her breath saying like incantations, like it's so, it's so clearly old folk or the day that they had to like shimmy into Christianity to like convince whatever mountain people they, like a thousand years ago, it's so clearly left over bullshit of like, oh, we have to shoot like, you know, energy at you to get the evil eye. And like the evil eye is a talisman, but I, we have no, we don't, we don't throw the hand in there. Well, it's also a bird. Oh, and it's a bird as well. It's also a bird. It's also a bird. Oh, it's also a bird. It's also a bird. It's also a bird. It's also a bird. It's also a bird. It's also a bird. Yeah. It's also a bird. So this is really because it's actually aerobic thing they stole It's yeah colonial nickname from an air. It's it's got you got you. Yeah colonization But I think it comes from like aeromac. Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, yeah, you should get it off your foot. It's almost gone. Yeah, it's almost gone Yeah, you don't want to have a stupid tattoo on your body got forbid these are bad ass What is that the carton we got pizza the the set that one's all I know can we do I know what's off it tattoo tour The juice boxes. Oh, he calls me half pint because I'm small adorable. That is cute. All right, I take it back I love my mom. This one's good. What is that one cool? My mom when I was a kid I was like my ass. It's just like I was itchy on the street So she pulled me into a storefront and scratched my ass for me So we go like this to each other because it's like mother's love bitch That's what I wanted her to do it and she did it You didn't even reach it. It wasn't like you couldn't get to it. I could I was like can you I mean, there's something about a mother's love where it's like you will like I for the first time It's been a long but I sent a picture of my anus to my mother There was yeah, there was a couple things in and around it And yeah, so there, but you know world clear now Yeah, she literally is okay cool. So she is an amazing doctor And like she I did it need to I didn't need to say and all is then she prescribed me the wrong medication So fuck her interesting. Just kidding. I love you mother That's got to be nice though mom doctor. Yeah, I just had effectures a little kid. Well she was like an eye Ayurvedic doctor. So it was like like kind of ancient Indian like medicine Yeah, but she's she's going why I was saying don't bring up burning man She's going for her second time this year. Oh my she invited me a pair. She was setting me video. They do like There's like a stand up. There's like a there stand up and burning man Like a fake brick wall Oh, I know we should do it Show it's that burning man. I'll just check that out stand up at burning man, ma'am Burning ma'am Talking the wrong eye Man, that's all right. We can look this up. Let's get some day we'll get there. Some day will be we'll be lucky to do stand up Yeah, I think we can I think people sponsor Is it one deeper No, we have to keep saying it because that's gonna get people Oh, wait, we for beeps. Beeps. Okay Beeps Beeps stemming it was a great look, especially very funny. You looked great. The your family was there. That was awesome Yeah, the look like doesn't she look so good like it's like I'm like you need to be on a big screen Everyday that's what I wanted like because I like not we were talking about this in the car I don't like to lead with hot right because I'm just like it annoys me or I get mad when people are leading with hot Because it made me feel bad. I think no one should lead with hot. I think some people can sure and make it fun But there's some people you can tell Yeah, like I think there is like like putting it on You can but I can okay, when you're saying it's nefarious. You mean hot so you're saying lead with hot Because as long as you're not what you're saying is there's a hint of Let me let me see if I know what you're saying the nefarious is I'm hot and there's an implied like maybe you could fuck me if things go You're my way or like you're using or you when you say it's nefarious is like are they is the hot person sort of like implicitly trying to lead on their audience is that what you're saying or no you're putting There's a way where you can make women feel bad by how you're looking hot. Do you know what I'm saying? I mean it's like literally It's like it's more you can in power. It's like skinny. It's like like these types of things that it's like I'm going to Put on to make you strive or and I think some people can you get serious as a wall to be like what I'm saying is not actually that funny And so it's like we are at this point where it's like okay we You know we have like hot comedians. Yeah, and I think that's always been the case But it's like well hasn't it been you know, why can't we just wear like pants in a t-shirt, right? It's like well now. It's like such like you have to be it's true a multi-hyphenate of it where it's like model actress comedian influencer Magician Worker prostitute No, it's like a really cool person. That's my job And then and then like and then it's like the nut comes out of my mouth So you're saying there's like I maybe there's another thing where it's like Maybe this is maybe the same thing but something I've noticed is that There's also you really overdo it when you're doing some big like I try and avoid it too where it's like I don't want to not be myself I don't want to be so like Spend all this money on like wearing clothes. I would never wear yes, and if you're a woman Yeah, yeah, yeah, and for women it's even more like you could go super glam with it if you wanted to or like super over the top And it's like who the fuck is that that's not the person there is that is something with specials in general that I think about where it's like It should still be the way you it should just be the best version of this material not a complete hood upon thing That you're trying to trick people in the fitting who you are right. I also feel like personally. I'm trying to be like I want to be accessible and make people feel good about themselves like that's why I'm doing it. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't want to be like I don't want you to be thinking about sex. I do it in the special. Yeah, but like Yeah, I'm like I'm thinking about sex the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like I'm watching your fingers like on your pussy Like, but it looks about you jacking off But it is joy and relatable. You just happen to also be beautiful and sexy. Yeah, where I think it's like it's personal It gets like you your family like it cuts to your family like it's like you're talking about like You're parents being right there is awesome. No, it's like it's so and it's personal It's and it's where it's like I think be with like There can be this wall where it's like oh, it's actually not personal like anybody could be saying yeah, where it's like yours It's like the narrative the artistry the aesthetic like is so you and nobody else could do that That's a really good point that like that you could because there's a way to just be generic hot They completely washes over any of the stuff that makes an individual performer special that a lot of people go for When they're like being when it's and I sort of get it to because it's like yeah, these are the nicest cameras that are ever gonna be pointed at Yeah, I kind of look good. I mean listen we're talking to somebody who got famous when he was 350 pounds and five seven You know, I mean like now how much through a nice 280 okay, and I'll tall I'm my growth spreads kicking in any day. Okay. So by tomorrow We're waiting waiting like today. I'm still around five I got some heels that I think could fit you so yeah 11 and a half quadruple Yeah, maybe some brawls as well. I know it is like different like for guys like I'm just like yeah like It's like I don't know like people are like even like Netflix specials like people are churning out like Three Netflix specials a year, and it's like who it even just like I'm like who is styling that like who is styling? And it's like in one way it's beautiful that there's an art form where it actually doesn't really matter what you wear and it's like You are what you say, but then it's just like that's just not the case for women. You know, it's like yes And honestly, I want to be a damn actress and sometimes you got to look like an actress like when I go out I also like looking like shit online, and then when you see me in person. It's like oh, yeah, I didn't know Yeah, I like that like yes But I feel like it makes people like me that I look like sure that I'm myself. I also love that you're pretending This is some grand plan you have and not just what happens and what you live your life That you are right We're gonna look at No, it's really intentional I was like my neck rolls and my titty is flopping out And there's a one big hair That's intentional for my acting career That's I feel that way. That's why I look like shit in my Instagram stories for my career Completely Yeah, I get that. Oh I'm excited. I'm excited for I mean, I've thought about that how I want to be perceived I will there will be a two-pay era of my life. I can't wait for that. Oh your weave Yeah, I can't wait for that. We're still I'm gonna grow the bald pony a little longer And then I'm gonna enjoy that I think for the rest of this year and then who knows I don't know I can't I'm actually starting to think about an era past Bald ponytail, which I never thought I'd get past it. Wow like full bald. I don't know I mean, no, not I don't think I'll go buzz cut again, but just you know, let's get creative total I get some weird balding hair thanks going technology is like It's there, but I don't want it. I see it as cowardice to get to get a transplant right now. I completely agree This is the sexiest thing you can possibly do. Thank you. Thank you. I might just go I might just go You know Tony soprano with it short, you know, we'll see a back bang That would be really fun to a back bang. I kind of I kind of do want to do the like Hitler stash back bang shaved like Fade Long fucking mullet in the back. Or have you seen when people slick what you have forward and then you cut it like a perfect line. My uncle's case worker used to do that The perfect person in your life to remember a hairstyle He tried to get me My uncle was in the hospital with swollen legs and he tried to get me to sign he He has cancer luck my uncle like any time he was supposed to go to court for not paying rent for 18 months At my grandma's apartment To be the time that he was in the hospital. So he got to miss it, but they I needed a doctor's signature and the case worker was like, "Do you have good handwriting to me?" Because they couldn't find the doctor. So we want to meet a sign of orange. Like if a permission slipped to the zoo. (laughing) - That was an awful fight. - That's crazy. The case worker wanted to do this. - Well, he's also my uncle's friend. There was something going on. - Like Fred. - And his name was. - He's a. - Sharper. - Oh, oh, okay. - Maybe we blew that out, eldest. (laughing) - He made it work. - Was he a social worker when you say case worker? - I do not know what this man did. He looks like a drug addict. - He was probably a drug addict. - Yes. - He's probably a drug addict. - And he was my uncle's friend. - I am a social worker. - Right, right, right. - Honestly, that's still what it is. - I was on case worker. - Like, what I gathered was that he was going to talk to the judge and bring these sign papers to the judge with my signature. - He was just his friend. - Yeah. - He was not a lawyer or a friend. - He was a case worker. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's awesome. - I mean, you describing, I mean, truly you're upbringing is hysterical. - Yeah. - It's the fact that you're even a semi-cogeant person. - Right. - That you're not, that you're not an insane train, like you're obviously crazy in certain ways. - Sure. - But. - I have a bigger problem with you. - Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But you could be like full, like, a meth-hat. - Oh, honey. - You could be like. - I know. - Yeah. - You could be crazy or not. - I know. - The grandma's apartment in the special is. So, it's like your uncle. So basically, your grandma ran a flop house for the failed member of your family. - Yes. - Yeah. - And you spent a lot of time there as a child. - As a kid. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And there's lots of rugs. - There's a lot of rugs. - There's a lot of rugs, all of a rugs. - I had this drawing I just found. It's from 2004, so I was 12. And it's just a drawing of a woman under it says misprostitute. (laughing) - Oh, I saw that. - You saw that. - Oh my God. - I sure would say that to me. - That I use, like, onion. Like, you know what, onions come in like the fishnet. I like cut that and wound it as the fishnet. - So you're doing like 3D collage. - Yes, I've always been like creative. - Yeah. - I mean, put that in a pilot. - I know. - I'm like begging just like we're talking about being an actress. I'm like, I'm begging just to be. We're going back in time. I'll be a prostitute. I'll be dead prostitute number one. Like, we're not even there anymore. That was like 30 years ago. We're now off. It's like, you know, what are we going to do? - You could be a live prostitute. - I would love to. - Look at this. - Walking around. - You could have one. (laughing) - Cheap though. Still cheap. Still cheap as fuck. I wish I was more expensive. - That, that sounds like you're like a meth head prostitute. - Definitely. - That, that, that, that. - I'll take some matter all. - What was the, what was the, you're growing up in Western mass in an aerobic doctor's home. What is that looking like? Are you living on a comedy? - Her family's awesome. - Yeah, it's great. Parents are no longer together, but, you know, they are both on their own spiritual journeys now. - That's beautiful. - They originally met doing West African drumming and dancing. And then. - And this is by the way, this is what conservatives think. How you create a trans? - Yes. - Daughter? - Yes. - Do you think if you do too much? - No, laterally. - Drumming, if you do, if you do too much stuff from other cultures, your child will become trans. - Compassion. - Holy. (laughing) - Holy. - No. - I was indoctrining. (laughing) - And then I was indoctrinating everybody else. - It's so weird. - They didn't know like any gay or trans people really growing up in my town. And now it's like upstate in Western mass. It's like riddled with them. Like you can find them in every hole in a tree. - Yeah, it is so much, but yeah, it was, I mean. - So they met, sorry, I would love to go back to the meat at the. - So they meet, yeah, my dad's drumming, mom's dancing. - Okay. - They, you know, dad's a dead head. - Awesome. - Mom is a free spirit, dancer, doctor. - Awesome. - And then they move to Western mass, older brother, me. Then it's like very, you know, I'm like playing sports. Start an improv group basically. And then immediately when I leave, it's like, okay, something's up. Like literally something is up. I'm like, right, so I was looking at gay Tumblr porn for quite a while. I was like, why do I love Tumblr? I'm like, where are you publishing? Like, I'm just being gay and Tumblr. I'm like, sure, why not? And then, then I would like go back and visit in college. And that's when I definitely was. I was, I was jerking some people off and doing some things for a little bit of time. - Sure, sure, sure. - And it's like, girl, your mom's a doctor. Like how much do you need? - Right, right, right, right, right, right. - Like in some ways, but also I'm like, it was. - It was an interest. - It was more spiritual, it was something. - That was your drumming. - That was no, that was my, it was like, explorative, creatively, financially, and then spiritually. And so it was like, also when you go back to your hometown, I don't know, maybe you both feel this. It's like that repression kind of immediately clapped where it's like, you're that kid again. That was like bullied and sixth grade. Like you're like on the rug again, like humping that shit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And it feels, it's like hard and scary, but also like, kind of sexy, almost in some ways. And I'm like, there's nothing sexier than money sometimes. I left that to the side. - Sure. - I left that to the side. - That was in your youth, it sounds like. - Yeah, it was like teen, yeah, it was like very much. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then I tried to dabble recently, but now, you know, I'm trying to be an actress hooker instead of like a real one. (laughing) We're shooting for the fucking stars here. (laughing) - One is a much more reliable. - No, it's a much more reliable. - It's literally, I'm like, I'm a touring standup comedian. - Yeah. - I'm in a writer's room. I still probably could make more as a bartender or hooker. - With that question. And it wouldn't be less embarrassing. - It wouldn't be like cooler. - Sex workers are respected. - Much more than standup without question. - Writers? - It is, yeah, I respect somebody. You just have to suck a stranger off at work. - Has you ever paid anyone for sex? - Yeah. - For sure. - I was, when I'll go to like Europe, we go to, I've done an Amsterdam situation. - Like Red Light District vibe. - Red Light District vibe. - When you, you know, you're on vacation. - If I went to Rome, I would go to the Colosseum. You know what I mean? But I happen to be an Amsterdam, so I'm gonna go to the Red Light District. - And like Red Light District. - What's your like type of hooker? - You know, I just, I like to just walk around and just be like, oh nice, I'd like to fuck that lady. - Right, I'd like to fuck that lady. - I really, have you gone trans? - I have not gone trans. I've also haven't done it that much, to be honest. It's only been, there was only one lady with, I just like, truly just saw the first lady with huge tits and like, big lips. - Right. - Just like Houston, European, like I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're like, yeah, I'm like, you're like, I'm just seeing it, it's like the first one. - I'm like, yeah. - You're like, right, that's you. - And this will be right here. - Oh no, you're in a golf park. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm just an obese American and a rascal scooter trying to bypass you in Europe. - You're like on one of those like one wheel, right? - Can you lift up my stomach and get my dick out of it and ask them on the air? - So, I can't see it, I can't see it. Where's the dick? Where's the dick? - Excuse me, I'm the customer. - I don't want to be talked to this way. - I'm seeing three balls, three balls, the normal three balls. - Here's eight more euros to pretend my dick is huge, please. - Oh, I'm joking, I'm dying, sir. I'm dying, I'm dying. - Thank you, I just nod immediately. - Thank you. - So you've never gone, you've never gone tranny. You've never gone to trance though. - No, no, no. - Even in your, I mean, you got too, yeah, yeah. - You got to know this, you're just talking. I'm like, Eddie's kind of an ethical chaser. - Chaser? - An ethical chaser, in a way. - Is that the tip you're on right now, Eddie, we haven't caught up in a while. - I do, I've always been this way. I do like, it's hot, sorry. - I mean, well I can't exactly even tell what your second, like sexuality is, like the stuff you're into is just, it feels like it's like so abstract from the actual act of sex or like what you're describing in this special where you're just like, it's just like you want to see like filth and reality and just like, and that's what gets you fucking horny. It's like, to me, I'm like, yes, I get that. I understand not wanting how fake everything is and I understand what people like, I can't really get into like, you know, mainstream porn 'cause it's so obviously fake, but at the same time, I want-- - Well, I can watch that too. - Yeah, yeah. - It's like, there's a long-- - No, I get that. - It's a spectrum. - You're on the spectrum. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're describing like just, yeah. I believe it was like the actually kind of similar to what we just talked about me with an Amsterdam where it's just like the fattest guy of all time with this littlest dick in the disgusting room. And to you, it's just like, well that's real, right? Was that the appeal to that joke that it's authenticity, the authenticity gets you horny? - Yeah, it looks like it's undeniable. Like I like, when I'm watching that, I can see that it's real. Yeah, I think like, yeah, that is-- - It's pure authenticity, right? - It's pure, and like that person, like I don't know, seeing like a strong guy with abs, like I don't care what he wants, 'cause what he wants-- - Whatever he wants, whatever he wants. - Right. - A guy who doesn't get what he wants, getting what he wants. - He needs more, he needs more. - Oh, so when someone's fucked up or when someone's on the bottom of society, then finally getting to enjoy themselves. - Yes. - Is so much, I want to give it to them. - Wow. - It's gonna be the fun. - Wow, okay. - It's like in this moment we're in of this trigger warning, maybe bleep this clavicular. - Clavicular down where it's like, "Oh, we're trying to become these Greek God manosphere, whatever where it's like, oh, there's in culture where it's like, no, we like bodies." And we like people to have bodies and like faces and be actually real. And I think in the next five years, like, we're gonna get fat again. Fat asses will be bad. - Haley Bieber, you're gonna be fat. - I hope so. - It pisses me off. We finally had huge titties and big asses as culture. - Yes. - And now they're trying to take that from us? - No. - So fucked up. - It was like crazy when I spiced this really made me sick. When I spiced, got skinny and then everyone was mad. And being like the ice melted. And then she got thick again and was saying like, I'm back, you know, like, do you like me now? That like was happening. - Yeah, I mean, well, I think that's like. - Of course. - This is where you're describing is like, yeah, we objectify female pop star. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, Britney Spears. The words disgusting. - So shamelessly, like, be like, oh, I'm sorry. It's back. I got back. - Yeah. - I ate my oats. - Yeah, yeah. - Right. Where it's like this, even I mean. - But they all are like that. What are you talking about? What you signed in for that? - I'm not. - What do you mean, yeah, how are you doing right now? What's the special call? I'm just like you and it sucks. Hey, John, how all the money from your success has gone? (laughing) That's what principles get you. - I don't care. - I know. - I know, that's cool. - But there'd be at the bottom. - That's cool. - Well, we'll do like a car wash, but it'll be like a dick sucking type of thing. - That's cool. - And we'll raise money. - My car wash. - My car wash. (laughing) - You pull up in the golf cart. (laughing) - Are you, where do you think you would both, this is like a retirement? Where do you see yourself? - Great question. - Like, you have a beautiful career as you both have and do. I admire both of you, you know. Where are you in Florida, golf car? Are you in a different country? Are you right back here? - I'm in Greece. I would say I'm in Greece half the time and here half. I do love New York for real. And so I think that's kind of, my goal would be to be here whenever it's nice, when I'm retired and then like just be gone when it's not. Like in the summer, just be in Greece. That's the dream. - Yeah. - That's all I've ever wanted in my life is like, if I could be, 'cause I remember growing up, even when you're in Greek town in Baltimore, even these families that were doing just okay, they would have these restaurants, these Greek restaurants. And then there would be a sign on the door for three months. And they're like, we're in Greece. We'll be back in literally the fall. And I just remember being like, that's a problem. - Yeah, bye. - And those people are not rich, right? But they just have an awesome life. And I just remember being like, I wanna get there. Where I just like, I'm just like, don't even fucking look at me in the summer. I'm on a fucking beach. Until like mid-September. Like, I'll come back to you, that's my dream. That's my, and I just love, I don't know. I love being on the side of a beach. And like, you know, I am a fucking beach. - I'm a beach guy, big time. - Oh my God, it's the best place to have her. Being naked on the beach is like, in the water. That's what we're meant to do. - I know. - Swimming the earth. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm a lake girl. - I love lakes too. - Sure. - I'm sure. - I love a lake. - Are you going to lake retire, you think? What do you think? - I definitely want like lake house. I'm like, I want to walk, keep lightning on a rocking chair on a floor. - Yeah. - A rocking chair is a huge part of retirement. - No. - A rocking chair is a huge part of being closed. - I'm like, let us them. - Yeah. - Let us them for until we're rocking chair. That's all stimming. - Yes. - You know, they were all doing that shit. - I mean, I'd even like, I might country club it too. - Yeah, I could see that. - Fuck it. - I could see that. - The thing is, it's like I do have like the illness where it's like, I think I will probably work till I die. Like at least like create, like I just like have to. Like I'll be like, okay, let's write a pilot about playing bridge or something. - Doing pickle ball. - Yeah. - I'm like, so I'm playing pickle ball. Now it's a reality show. But see to me, the truth, like when you fantasize about retirement, it's that I'm fantasizing about not being programmed that way. - Yeah. - I'm fantasizing about just chill relaxing. I know how to relax is what I'll say. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like I can be in work mode and then I really can just. - And what about you? - What about you? - What's your relax? - Have you been to Martha's Vineyard? - I actually have. - I've been to the other one, the one that you're buying. - Kiko. - Oh, you're maybe been to Kiko. - This is bizarre that you. - Well, my boyfriend's rich and I'm different now. And I don't fucking care. - Wait, this is Keith's rich. - Oh. - Yeah. - Like family? - Family. - Wait, what? - My mom is literally like-- - You want to know this? (laughing) - You want to know this? - Yeah. - She's so happy. - Oh, man. - She's so happy. - You want to talk about a movie. You want to talk about a white. I want white Lotus, but they also invite your family. (laughing) - No, literally. - You want me to look at you. (laughing) - She's like itching her ass. (laughing) - Why is your mom's finger in your ass, yeah? (laughing) - I'm like, "Math Pie." - That's awesome. - Yeah. - Okay, that's so, it's just really funny to say this. - That place is magical. - Yeah, my God. - I really, I just went with my boyfriend and a group of my friends. And there was like no hot water. Or one of my friends was like, the hot water isn't working. And I was like, did someone tell Ethan? And my friend was like, "You've changed." (laughing) You're a different. It was like, "Oh, we have to tell them about the house." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have to tell the hell. - It's a me, like, you deserve that, man. - It's really funny to say both the, you've said the phrase, my uncle's case worker and Martha's vineyard are the same within an hour. - No, I mean, you're the only person that's ever done that. - The duality. - I am having a hard time, Gregg. Or it's hard in the relationship too. Like, I get angry. I have problems with it. - Sure, there's like, what's that? - And like, his mom and my mom, we also went to high school together. Me and my boyfriend. So like, we grew up five minutes from each other, but completely different. - Wow, that's fucking nuts, yeah. - It's nuts, it's hard, but for me, it's awesome. (all laughing) For him, I'm like, there's nowhere really for us to go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So interesting because it is like, it's like my family is like that. He's the exact type of Jewish boy/family you want to marry into. - Yes. - You did it early, that's like you did it. - Good for you. - I know. - You accomplished it. - Don't fight it. - Don't fight it. - I'm not, but it is annoying somehow. Like, our moms were moving at the same time. My mom bought a studio apartment. It's a room. - Your mom's doing stuff in a glad bag. (all laughing) Shoot, your mom's packing up her bindle. And put him in a state. - Literally. (all laughing) - And fucking me, Guadalamalans are packing up his mom's home. (all laughing) - It's crazy. And I have to be like. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's awesome. The secret is to grow up poor and then get rich. - Exactly. - Because I get to have this superiority over like, well, I mean, I'm a self-made man. - Let's know, but it still is kind of annoying. I mean, the thing about getting money, it's like that a noise that's been the most annoying part is who you're now around. It's like rich people aren't fun. - I don't want to be around now. - And it's not even, it's not even the, whoever made the money usually is kind of interesting, even if they're evil. They're at least they have like an interesting ambition. But most rich people are somebody's kids or grandkids that most rich people didn't work for shit. And so when you go to these like nice places, you're just surrounded by like, I'm surrounded by like 20 year olds who haven't worked hard at all at anything and have like a really conti attitude. And that's so fucking annoying. - And as they get older and they're more in the real world, I feel like they're kind of grappling with that. Like they hated about themselves. - I don't think they do. - Or some of my friends hated about themselves. - Well, they do until. - Well, that is the thing where it is like, it's like you want to suffer. Like it's like when I went to like you know, private liberal arts college, it's like all these like really generationally like L.A. New York, wealthy people come and it's like, their cause playing as Paul. - I'm broke. - Like I'm broke and then it's like, yeah, and then you have people it's like, okay, sure I suffered in my own ways, but now it's like, I'm going in like being a hooker. Like, wait, why? Like it's like, you feel like you need to suffer in these ways that it's like because you didn't have that in the same way. I think that the mind is a little bit more generational of like New York Jews and like everybody trying. I mean, like, well, it's like I'm the first generation that gets to be an artist. It's like my grandma, my great, like everybody like wanted to be an artist, but they have to be like teacher or like Mafia member. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And now it's like, I get to be the artist. - I'm always speaking of, so I watched like one clip. Who is the girl who kept saying Tranny, Tranny, Tranny? - Jordan. - Jordan Gentson. - So I had to break her record. - Oh, okay. You want to run it? Yeah, yeah. How many was it, Eldis? All right, can you give us a six? - Yeah, what's the count? - It was a six that gets slurred. Watch out. >> Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. >> It's like why it's really good. >> Did she broke the record? >> She broke the record. >> She has something. >> Yeah, she's got something going on, but she's cool. She figured it out. >> Very good. >> And that's what this is about. It's about figuring out things live. And because people on the internet yell at you. >> They really do, but the good news is you now have the record. You have the T-bomb record. >> That's something. >> That's something. >> We'll make a plan. >> Yeah, we literally will. >> We literally will. >> But I do think it's time, we're having a great time, and you'll have to come back, Gals. But I do think we need to get to, we need to get to, we need to get to work. We're fucking calls here, eldest, right? This happens when you're on ED, because I just, everything I hear about your family, I could ask 1,000 follow-up questions on, but let's get to some calls here. >> We should come with your parents. >> My fucking God. >> My God, yes, you said. >> I'll kill that. >> That's an interesting podcast. >> I would love that. >> And they're divorce parents. >> Yes. >> You're, anyway, that's who I'm loving this already. >> Next time. >> And let's hit the Stavis World Hotline presented by Visible. >> He's got a eldest, one of her esteemed guests. I feel like I am obligated to say this is what he really says. Anyway, but I'm in my early 30s, the married for a few years, when I started dating this woman that I'm married to, she wasn't very sexually liberated. She looked like a virgin, she had a six in high school, but she had never masturbated, she had never had a full baby before, and through time, we'd kind of pitch that together. Now, she comes good every time we have sex, she's like a little bit, just a little bit. >> Just a little bit. >> What? >> What do you want to do? >> We want to be silent to talk, and she was really taking charge. But now, the wildness, I touched the bottle a little bit. >> Okay. >> It's so hard, like the hardest I've got, and she goes, "This guy's voice is awesome." >> I love when I have sex with my girlfriend, she calls her from bottle touching. >> She had squat from a bottle, I think it was a shot, but still calm nonetheless. >> Thank you for going, so hard. >> Since then, when the mood strikes, you know, I'll touch the bottle a little bit. The other time I do, it's the same thing, she's coming way harder than the average six. The other night, while we were in line in bed, we come to one of those buckhole encounters, and I thought I'd ask, "Do you, after?" I thought I'd ask, "Do you like when I touch your bottle?" It seems like every time I do, it's really time for you. And she said, "Not really, I don't think it's doing anything for me." And I said, "Well, do you want me to stop?" And she said, "Kinda." All right. What I was surprised about, because the correlation is crazy, there's been every time I've touched your bottle the whole time, I know. I think you got a few records of liking it, and she doesn't want to fess up because she's, you know, still a fess up. >> Got a little bit of that shelteredness. From now to tell me, one thing or by, he's telling me another. >> Oh, bruh. >> That's a tough sense, man. >> That's a real tough sense. >> It's really hard. Also, I just wanted to click, it is like a, you know, like a, like a mic best, you know, just a little pressure on there, I'm not figuring anything there, just for a clear state. >> Thanks for clarifying. >> I was thinking about how your finger, if it was inside or outside, and your, the time you're both calling counters, like he can't say anal, like he's allergic to that. >> It's interesting. >> Well, I was, I sort of was on, I sort of was hearing what he was saying until he was like, her body's telling me one thing, and her mouth's telling me, like, no, not, very if you non-rapeists have used that term. >> Well, you just don't want to be using rapist parlance, and unfortunately that is what you're doing with it. >> Well, it's like you've touched her but whole five times, and then you ask, is this okay? >> Is this okay? >> Right. >> And so it's like, well, we can just communicate about sex right off the bat. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Where it's like, it's not a crazy thing. I think probably straight guys are just like, just like a but whole is just so crazy for them to like process as a thing. And so it's like, yeah, what if you were, where it's like, okay, maybe she does like it, but she's now uncomfortable because you've touched it a bunch and you haven't talked about it. >> Yeah, maybe ask in the moment. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. In the moments kind of, I feel like it's the kind of thing where, I don't think there's anything wrong with like kind of doing the debrief if you've been kind of like slowly working your way up to something. Because in the moment, I do feel like it's better before or after personally, because in the moments, it's just such a, just a different energy to be having it. >> Right. >> You're almost having like a logistical conversation. >> I mean, you could say you want to, you want to have that whole? >> Yeah, yeah, that's true. >> You want that whole? >> But like, what if it's like, she's like, whisper it, that's hot or maybe, but maybe she wants to like, prep her but whole more before, maybe that's what she's like in her head about it. >> She said, she said, kind of, the two of them, this is like, this is tough communicating on both parts. >> It's hard for me. It's like, I want to be respectful, but I'm like, you haven't eaten her ass yet and she hasn't eaten yours. It's like, what are we doing then in sex? >> That's true. >> And so, but I'm like, yeah, she's, I don't know, especially if this guy was, this is honestly good for you for asking about this, because maybe this is the first time you've ever even thought about consent with that voice, and also asking for consent with like, what could I say, speech impediment? >> What if you had a regional accent? >> She didn't masturbate. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, she didn't even masturbate a pussy. I would say, now look, the other thing is, it seems like you just don't really talk about it that much and there's nothing wrong with sort of like, you broached the topic, maybe she was also caught a little off guard, maybe, look, he might be a little right here, maybe she still is a little sheltered, whatever. You can still keep having a conversation, right? Like you can say, hey, like the, before the next time you're a guppy, be like, hey, from that last talk we had, because also after and before that, those are different energies, right? Like, how many times you've beaten off something and been like, I should set my laptop on fire? You're like, it's the whole time. >> It's not clarity. >> Me every time. >> Yeah, every time. >> It was in that vibe, right, where she had just busted and she's ashamed of herself now. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> So now let's have, let's try this conversation. >> Just talking more. >> Right. >> Let's have it before next time. >> And she probably has her own, it's like both of you maybe should like see a sex therapist or counselor and she probably has her own insecurities about her bout hole. >> Yeah. >> Or maybe somebody mistreated her bout hole before. >> That's a good point. >> And so it's like, you just don't know and so you have to like, yeah, I think before honestly. >> Before or yeah, like even during anything but after or anything but after or even like sometimes completely not even around sex like. >> Which is the best. >> Yeah. >> Yes, yes, yes. >> Where it's not charged at all. It's not. >> Yes. >> It's not. >> Hey, I've been thinking about this. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. >> At dinner. >> Dinner a nice brunch having a cup of coffee. >> Well, and I think, yeah, I think that's right and it's like eating some chocolate ice cream. >> Eating a donut, yeah, chocolate pudding squirting out. >> It's like you need to be able to like say like anal, you need to be able to like have the vocabulary if you want to be doing that, you know what I mean, it's like he's beating around the bush. >> Yeah. >> We're on like just say what you want or like your desire and then maybe she'll be like, okay, like it's okay for me to like say, yeah, yeah, you know, so I think, look, in general, they seem to be on some kind of little journey here. She's coming out of her shell, whatever. Keep the talking, keep the conversation going, it seems like, you know, if she's busting, that's a huge, you know, she's coming super hard. She's busting hard, that's great, keep that going, keep the conversation going, my friends. >> Literally, next time he calls, he's going to be like, you did see my ass. >> She in my mouth. >> Yeah, my butt hole. >> What else we got, LD? >> Uh-oh, what the fuck? >> I feel it out of it. >> Holy shit. >> Oh my God, it's time to, oh, it's time for the mother fucking fucked up ass question of the fucking week brought to you by the little fucker who's going to see. >> Oh, it's twice. >> I'm locked up with a twist on me. >> That's good stuff. >> I really want to pour this on my head. >> Don't do it, don't do it. I appreciate the fact that you want to, though, that's good. Elders, what's this week's fucked up ass question of the mother fucking week brought to you by our pals at Twisted T. And you know, there's no beverage for the summertime I'm quite like Twisted T. I think we can all agree on that. What is the question this week, Elders? >> Stubby, Elders, steamed, yeah. Hope you guys are doing well, man. I got a fun one for you today. So my brother is getting married in a couple of weeks, and we haven't always had the best relationship. I kind of beat the shit out of him a lot. I like that. So, you know, it's been rocky a little bit, but you know, we're older now. So we're good for the most part, but his wife to be and I had a pretty rock. You have been with his fucking fiance too. I used to beat the shit out of her. I like that, but we're good now for the most part. Does it count as domestic violence if it was my brother's wife? Mostly because of me actually. Oh, one of the first times I met her, we were moved a bunch of stuff in my parent's house, and she just like didn't help. And so I called my dad later, and I went off and called her a lazy fucking bitch. Went ballistic. I was not feeling good at the time. Yeah, I was on speaker phone, and she was in the room. And apparently she just started crying. That's not that you did that. Like if my sister-in-law, if we were moving stuff and one of my sisters-in-law just didn't want to do it. I'd be like, okay, who fucking goes? It's like he was like, it's my mom's house. I don't fucking care. Also, it's like, what app? Anyway, let's keep going. And it's been super awkward ever since there's actually a couple other small things. Have you apologize that weren't great either, but I really want to show up for my brother. I want to do the right thing. My question for you is, when I do the best man's speech, like, I have to give a nod to this. Oh my god. You have to give a nod to the answer. Congratulations, see you fucking bitch. You know, it didn't help. He's like, he's flowers on the table. He's like, Sarah. Oh, gosh, I remember one name is to beat you. Oh, man. What the fuck are you talking? People really think they're like something has infected our brains, especially with like all the all the phone shit where everybody thinks they're everybody posts like they're famous. This guy acts like it's like every we know I have to address our deep lore that everybody knows about. Nobody knows or gives a fuck about the time you were a dickhead to your sister in law. What you can do is say, I'm sorry before the speech you go to like, hey, I've been wearing this speech and I'll just be honest with you now. And by the way, we've said this a lot marriage. There's a couple moments in life that act as almost reset points. Yes. Man, people getting married, funerals of love. Like the big moments in life, a kid being born, these are moments that you can change. They're like hinge points for your life in many ways. This is a textbook one make it right. Make it right right now. Be like, I don't want us going into the right you and my brother, the rest of your life. I'm going to be your brother in law forever. I want it. I want this water under the bridge. You're not going to fucking fix this with a nice zinger about it in the best man speech. Go get your fucking actual, give her an actual fucking apology. You dumb mother fucker. Is there more to say? You know, I'm not going to pretend that it never happened, right? Otherwise, I would be super awkward. Most of her family probably knows about this. I've met some of them not all of them, but what would you do? Like how far into this story would you go? What? Why are we talking about the speech? Okay. You're not the wedding. You need to apologize. Yes. Obviously that's like you're thinking about the speech. You're making it about you. And you want like you're thinking about zingers right now. You are abusive fellow. You're like a quarter of the way of taking accountability. Yeah. Don't call a podcast. Call your sister. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe you think you have to discuss this. I can't believe you think this is the way to deal with this. And without speaking to her, like that's where he wants to deal with it. Yeah. And because her family knows. See, that's actually a really good. But that's a really, if you're the type of person who cares more about how you are perceived because of your faults as opposed to actually making them up with the people they matter, you're a piece of shit, you know what I mean? Like, and that's the type of person who thinks you're looking at this like PR. This is not PR. This is mending your relationship with an actual human being, not plainly. Well, I want people to think I'm cool at the, at the best man's speech. So your attitude is all fucking wrong here. I'm also like the brother should step up. Yeah. The brother should, it's like I guess he has trauma as well from you. But it's like he asked you to be his best man. And so it's like if he's asking that, it's like I wouldn't, it's like it seems like you're almost like putting your wife in danger. A man who used to beat y'all and verbally abuse you is going to be drunk at your wedding. This is an unsafe environment. It is, I will say, it is like, I'm curious as to the brother making him the best man, making our caller here, the best man is like, is the brother trying to make a man? Like is the brother trying to be the bigger man and be like, Hey, now you're my, because it's like, you know, we've all grown up with people who have these weird sibling, like these sibling rivalries that come up from one of them being a piece of shit, sometimes never go away. Sometimes it's just the way they relate to it. Like I have friends of mine who it's like, Oh, yeah, oh, brother and sister Bicker and now they fucking hate each other. Right. So it's like sometimes, and look, I've been very lucky. I was kind of a piece of shit. There were me and my brothers, like we had, we had like, you know, I mean, me and my brothers, we talked about it. We all had anger problems just from growing up in our house and we, there were moments we were all, we hated each other. We've come, we've figured it out. Now at this, you know, I was the best man in my brother's wedding, but like, we figured it out. We went to therapy. We did it. It doesn't seem like either of you guys have done that. Right. But the brother's interesting here, well, it is, I used to get my older brother used to beat me up. Like we really did not get along and then recently, honestly, like when my parents lit up, I had like a lot of resentment towards like the men in my family. And I talked to my brother and I was like, that was so fucked up, like all that shit. And he was like, I was a kid too. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, whoa, like even just like realizing that where it's like, Oh, we were both children. And like, I guess it unfortunately was on the adults, wherever it was, to take accountability. And so it's like, you know, I see that it's like they're trying to make amends. And at the end of the day, all you have is your family. And we want to be retired in Greece with our, you know, brothers and that's like, have whatever boundaries that you can as adults. But it is like, I would like to know, yeah, what conversations you've had with your brother because-- I'm questioning the marriage. Yeah. Because this person is-- I'll let you finish. But this person is asking the brother who they haven't talked about anything, clearly, to be the best man. He's probably doing that because he's like, well, this is what I have to do. And maybe the marriage is based in the same thing of like, well, this is what people do. Unfortunately, yeah. That's true. It's like a cycle of abuse and, like, untaughty and worst case scenario, yes. Best case scenario, it's just like people just go with inertia, right? And these are people who don't think deeply about themselves, right? Yeah. Like, this guy might be just, his brother might just be kind of a meek guy who's like, well, I don't have that many good friends. I guess my brother is my best man. Like, ah, I really hope he doesn't bring up that time. He called Sarah Cunt. But maybe he's true, you know, but he might be like, cucked like he could do his wife. And it's just like, well, like, I'm supposed to do this. I'm like, you know, he's all, I don't have to be friends. She is. Yeah, what is a bitch? What if she is a raging fucking comment? So, yeah, call her. You're right. Yeah. Keep saying that to her. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Make a joke about it. You want to sing her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You call her a bitch again. Um, okay. I guess let's, did he, did we get it? Is there anything else? There's a little more, but this is the, it's the, it's the gist. Okay. So, um, all right. I guess, yeah. You, you don't want to make things right. So if you want to make things right, the speech is not how you do it. You apologize to her. This idea that everybody knows this, that this happened is weird that you think this. You honestly might think too highly, I can't tell what's going on here, whether you have too high self esteem or what your deal is, something though, there is a crucial piece of information we're missing that like kind of explains the family dynamics. I think either way, whatever it is, um, you have sat by your own admission, you, you've glossed over them, but you seem to have been a dickhead multiple times here. So what you're thinking is not going to get you out of this. So what you want to do, which is make light of it and be forgiven by being so charming and funny, which we don't, I don't think you got it in you. I can happen. I don't think you got it in you, pal. But even if you did, let's say you did, right? Let's say you possibly could do it. It's not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is to talk to your sister-in-law completely, privately. It is not about what other people think. And if that means that you're, and by the way, if you're thinking like, well, my speech, I'm like, you know, thank you, thank you. Well, I'm like also obsessed with it's like you just have like untherapyced men calling in and asking, and you want help that they don't have people to talk about that. That's what I'm doing too. And I'm like, you really are like, it's really beautiful. So I'm just like, uh-huh. Yeah. And so I guess my point is like, let's say in a perfect world, you could pull it off and it would make your speech better. The fact that you, like, you should do the thing that makes your speech worse, but make your sister feel better. That's how you should be thinking about it. You should sacrifice this great singer to be a better brother-in-law. Even though, even though that, that's be very clear, that singer doesn't exist. The universe where you can pull it off doesn't exist. But let's say it does, you can think of it as you making a big sacrifice to help your family by just keeping the speech about, you know, not, and by an embarrassing incident. And by the way, we all speak publicly for living. There's no way that would work. You could not pull this off with telling you that. But yes, go talk your sister-in-law, actually apologize, uh, actually mean it. And that's all you have to do. And then just write a regular fucking speech. And also, by the way, you might, it might be a nice opportunity to talk to your brother too and just be like, sorry, I used to beat the fuck out of you. You know, that might, that might be appropriate as well. Hit us with another one, little LD. Oh, oh, oh, that's the twisted ass fucked up question of the week. Oh, that comes out and look at the end of the day with your new family, get together and crack open an ice cold twisted tea. You know, keep it twisted, man. I'm going to take a sip of it. Next question, little eldest. I wish I'd have a baby, big LV on a guest. Um, uh, my last message ran too long from the children. I got all that. He invited me to a new accessible at the techno festival and it's in Detroit. And it is long, grueling and brutal. You got to earn your way in. And you said you got to have cut your teeth on. Other events, he can't really go there. It's a rookie. You know, it's not for fun. So he invited me. We had an amazing time. The following year, I met this gal and been with her and she's huge in techno. Uh, she's also done the festival circus that she knows what she's doing. So I invited her along with. I wanted her to be there and to experience it like, like I had. We all went and we had a great time, uh, but after everything finished up, he said he didn't really want to go again next year. If he goes, because he felt kind of like a third wheel. Now me and her kept our, you know, we kept it friend vibes during the actual festival. I told her, you know, hey, I didn't suck or push you. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You kept it friend vibes. Right. He's going to be the third wheel you fucking asshole. He's there with a cup. Oh, my old roommate did go to Coachella and masturbate in the crowd. What? Um, I think it was like Lord or something. Like super cut of like kind of just a little bit for their own or like out in the open. I think like in the crowd like in his like jeans or whatever. Like, that's wild. That's a wild move. I don't want him to feel like a third wheel. So we got it like, you know, roll with him and be all inclusive. We don't want to like go off and do our own thing. But he said the vibe was totally different. For instance, you know, me and him, we tend to stay up for like multiple days. I mean, she wanted to turn in early some time. Yeah, a little bit. Now going to the next year, he says he doesn't want to go or she's going to go again because the vibe is different. And she really wants to go and have it heard. Okay. You know, she's experienced that she's like, holy shit, everyone to go again. So I messed up. I brought a gal to do, you know, a bro situation. Yeah, I don't want him to not go because he's the great buddy of mine. And on music, we like get down like that. So I know it's important to him, but I hope it doesn't hurt. Not everything you say sounds gay. Like that. She's been exposed to her. She thinks the best thing ever, which it is. So I guess my chickens are coming home to roots. And I guess I'm a little lost on what to do. I feel bad for both of them. I put both them in the situation of thoughts and I'm a fucking idiot. Okay. Yeah. I guess you're being mean to yourself. I know. I'm a fucking idiot. I guess. Well, no, no, but he's being mean to himself in the way that like that's also a way to deflect blame. We're like, I'm just so fucking stupid. I'm just such a piece of shit. Right. Take a count of billions. We're actually, but it's like you're not like what do you want? What do you want? Well, he wants both of these things. He wants them, but he basically he wants his friend to just be like, I don't care. I'll come. Yeah. Like it isn't weird situation because I do think there's a faux pas that he like, look, there's nothing wrong with if you're going to go somewhere and just like, yeah, it's it happens sometimes. It's like, yeah, if you're dating somebody and you have a friend who's single, sometimes it ends up being like a third wheel situation. Right. Who cares? The weird, the place where it's a little bit of a faux pa here is that he did take the thing. His friend introduced him to he now made it a so it's not I wouldn't my general advice wouldn't be like, I would generally tell the the third wheel to be like, all right, man, like that does suck. But if it's just like an event that he wants to bring his girlfriend to, unless you had some explicit like, oh, this is like our tradition, then whatever people can bring their significant others. But the fact that it was their thing to me is I see where the friend is coming from. Right. Normally, I would tell the friend like, you know, if it's just a general thing, it's like, hey, whatever. I mean, this is just growing up, right? Like, people have fucking seen me. That's okay. But in a time where it is kind of explicitly a like, uh, this was our hour thing. So I get where his friend is coming. Like, I'm sure he asked the friend, can I bring my girlfriend to this festival? And then the friend realized he didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah. So the friend should bring a friend. I also don't think it's that big deal because, yeah, the friend should bring a friend. So is she his girlfriend? Because like, when, like, when he brought her, they was just friends vibe or it's like, are they just together? He's with the girl. Okay. He's with the girl. I think he's saying we weren't acting weird or not saying at the festival. Right. Like, we were like, couple. Yeah. But it's like, well, it's like, I mean, as somebody who is like, always fucking single, it's like, it is just, it's tough to feel that loneliness. And then when you're like, on a bender, I'm sure doing a bunch of drugs where it's like, you're on high highs and really low lows. And it's like, you need somebody who's like your person. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, your buddy is actually with somebody else. And it's like, okay. Yeah. So maybe it's bring some, like, is there another person that he could bring? Maybe he doesn't have any, he doesn't have friends. But I'm sure it's like a music festival that it's like techno where I'm like, you could find your family there. Have you heard of Plurba? I feel like maybe they could alternate alternate years. You bring the girl, you bring them. I'm choking on dance with the key. I went down the wrong pipe really. So yeah, this is because also I would say to the friend, because I guess, I guess there's two ways this goes. Either the caller here is completely overreacting and the guy's like, hey, look, I'm just, this isn't really my thing. You seem to have fun with your girl. I'm just gonna, whatever. But also if the friend is like, if the friend is almost doing it like ultimatum style, that's pathetic too. Yes. Because it's like, and look, I get it. I've I've talked about this before where it's like, there have been times in my life where it's like, yeah, I'm the most immature, I'm the most emotionally immature person of my friend group without question. I like, everybody's ahead of me life wise. Why would say like, you know, Elder's been a serious relationship. Our friend Christina got engaged with him together. And there have been moments where it's like, when you're like, I've charted it at different periods of my life where it's like, when you're like 23 or whatever and someone like, and you're like best friend gets a girlfriend, it's like, dude, but like we fucking chill. And this fucking bitch is stopping us from chill. And it's like, and it's like, and she wants to go to bed. We're doing whip it up for him. Oh my, who else am I gonna do that with? And so this is just a tough situation where it's like your friend should not keep having that thought. Like you have to, and if you find yourself being jealous of a friend's romantic partner, your pathetic and you need to grow up, right? Or unless you're secretly in love with them, then you get a prize. But either way, you have to act on it one way or the other. But so to, but if you're, it's actually so much more pathetic to be jealous of a romantic partner and not want to fuck your friend. That just means you're right. Brat who's like, well, I want to hang out with my friend whenever I want, even if it makes him not happy. Even if it takes away the best thing that ever happened him so I can play fucking Xbox with him later tonight. Right. Well, it also seems like the friend was like, you know, man, not manipulated, but is like, this is like an elitist techno festival. Yeah. You have to put in the work. It's like, my friend brought me in and like, now I have to like, like, also, it's like he really, they confused me too, cool friends, I guess, you know, and it's so it's like, he looks up to him. And maybe that was like the power dynamic that they had. And so it's like this almost older brother, like being like, you got to be cool to come hang out with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so then it's like, well, you're not related. You're not dating, you're 30, you know, you're at a festival. Yeah. You're at a techno festival. Yeah. First of all, just let's stop there. Let's stop there. That's a problem. Like, it's not that big. Honestly, yeah, they should get a little crew. Go with like a little crew. Yes. But it's all the group of sex. So funny where his friends like his friend wants to stay up and do fucking drugs all night. It's like everything we've heard about the friend makes him sound like a fucking idiot. You know, where he's like, ah, if you're going to bring your fucking girlfriend, I'm not coming. Yeah. Yeah. Are you going to bring her? It's like, no. But festival. I'm like, I guess I don't really go to them, but I'm like, yeah, taking drugs and staying up all night sounds fun. Yeah. It does. It sounds fun. But also it's a guess. What is turning it around? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, is she talking about just going to better like one or something, probably 2 a.m. And he wants to stay up all night? Well, she probably wants to go like, it's cuddle time after you've been dancing all night and like, having this amazing experience, it's time to go make out in the tent. Yeah. I mean, lie down. And the other guy is like, ah, I'm still going. Yeah, yeah. But he should go find a girl at the festival. That's what they're for. Like, or a guy. Yeah. Or a guy. I'm sorry. Sorry. Wow. How dare you. Or something in between. I'm allowed to mess up because I am a chasing. No, that's true. What do you mean by that? You have a boyfriend who's rich. We just went over this. Yeah, but I'm allowed to do. She can have desires. Yes. You mean desire. We open me. If I wanted to hook up with someone, I would be allowed. I'll say that. Oh, nice. But it's not. I don't like labeling it. It's just like witch. We just talk about everything. We're not dead. Okay. Yeah. Well, and I would say to give to end this call with a little, just a little constructive stuff, whichever way you go with this, because it does feel like it's a either you do crew or it becomes one or the other person's thing. Yes. And whoever it, whoever loses out on this, you should make it up to them in some way. Right. Like, because I, we also on this pie, you know, on the pie, we understand that there are, you do need bro time sometimes. You do need to just like, there's sometimes it does, it can. You do want to have a stag party of some kind, you know, it's not, not everyone's got to be Cohen. Yeah. Yeah. So what you want. You know, say that. I do. I do. I need to buy his friend a plushie or the girlfriend a plushie. Yeah. Either way, either way, or you know, go to some other festival or go do drugs for a fucking weekend with your fucking friend. Right. There's a lot. There's a lot of festivals. There's ways to figure it out. But yeah. What's my dad? He's always going to festivals. I'm like, this could be my, that's about my dad, honestly. This might be about my dad straight up. That's what's dad's up to is go to festivals and stuff. Yeah. That's cool. He's, yeah, y'all have a hung out. Yeah. When I met him, I came over and he and Ethan were talking about come for my show. And that's awesome. He does sound cool. He hooked up. Yeah. Yeah. He has for you. Yeah. He has for me. You're dad and my boyfriend hooked up. Oh, that's right. You mean, you're still old one from the time your boyfriend sucked off Marley's dad. Yes. Oh, I see. You guys, you guys, yeah, you guys operate on like a tit for tat situation. Exactly. I see. I see. Can you play us another one, Elders? Okay. Okay. Let's go. A woman in a male dominated job market, I think you need to leave the room. And I'm in charge of my department and in the place that I worked, there's other people and other departments. And consistently, the whole time that I've worked there, guys from other departments will either hit on me, ask me out, ask people for my number or whatever, it's not that big of a deal. It's not that easy. Why are you complaining? We turn on her. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you got a job, but you can find a husband. You know, it's more important than you can have a baby maternity leave. What's the point of being a woman? Orange and clean. I shoot people down politely, but recently it's come to my attention that one of my employees on my team has been complaining to the other guys that I'm so friendly or like cordial, I guess, with the guys from other departments that have hit on me in the past and that I'm giving me signals. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So I guess my question is, it's kind of like a, there's options here. Do I address that with the employee? Because he didn't say to me, my call's drama, that's unnecessary, and people are allowed to complain about their boss, it's kind of fine, but it kind of hurts my feelings because I don't really know how else I'm supposed to go about that kind of thing. I can't really force people to knock it on me. Of course. And I can't just ignore everybody that does it, you know, but do I address it with the employee or do I adjust my behavior, like I think I just need, you know, I don't know, you know, thank you. See? Quiet down. She is smart. It turns out. I mean, this woman's a genius. She knows what she's missing, a podcast or a male podcast's opinion. I'm going to, I'm going to act to have a listen here. I'm just kind of like, is HR a thing of the past now? Yeah. I mean, HR is just, but he's the thing, if you're the boss, right? Right. It's like, I fully understand what she's coming from because as a boss, you don't, HR is snitching, right? And you also want to just deal with it. And you don't want people to turn on. You don't want people to think that you're like, yeah, that you're the kind of, and also unfortunately, it feeds into female stereotypes too of like, oh, she can't handle a little, whatever the fuck, right? Like, oh, she had to go back and get me in trouble, that fucking bitch, whatever. I'm confused about what happened with the input, like, about what happened. I think what happened is, so this woman works, you know, she works plain, works absolutely. She works in tact or some shit. I don't get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Some barbies have jobs, you know, like, there's like a barbie who's like, business barbie. Like, business barbie. Great. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Okay. I love her a little bit. Oh, man. Is the boss? Yeah, I know. It's crazy. So I think what's happened. So basically, she's just, let's say she works in like a tech company, right? She's one of, there's barely any women, everybody in this office, you know, one guy from each department hits on her, right? And she just kind of whatever, you know, let's it go. And then one of her employees, apparently, is complaining that she's like leading people on, I guess, effectively, right? That she gives people mixed signals at whatever. Like, there's a reason they're hitting on her. May, I don't even know, it's unclear what is, what the nature of his complaint is like. So like, it's unclear if he's mad that she's not nice to him or that whatever, who knows? It's unclear. But either way, and look, here's my knee jerk reaction. And then we can all discuss as a group and see if I'm wrong or what or whatever. And is your podcast not for long, but I think you don't, you do not change your behavior because of this because that shows weakness from your underlings. If eldest was talking shit to me, I'm not changing my fucking behavior because of eldest. I'm sitting the eldest down, I'm going, shut the fuck up. Don't you ever say that shit about me? But I do think, actually, now look, she makes a good point where it's like, they're just rumors. You're allowed to complain about your boss. I think what I would say is if like, if there's any like credible way that this comes back to you, that's above a rumor, that you can sit him in the office and be like, don't speak. Yeah. You're his fucking boss. You're like, listen, you can complain about me. You can, whatever you want to do on your own time, it doesn't matter. Don't, you don't spread rumors about me in the office. I'm your superior. You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna do that in, you know, this is what it takes. It's, this kind of behavior is completely unacceptable. I put up with it to make this, you know, to make this office work better. But if we had, and I don't want to, you got to make it clear that it's like, I'm not the kind of person who goes to HR. I'm handling my shit in house. If you want to take it that way. If you want me to fucking put on your record that you're the kind of guy who gosh, just about his female boss. I'll do exactly, exactly. I do think you need to drop your nuts on this guy a little bit first. You're gonna have to girl boss. Like you are a girl boss? Just girl boss because it's obvious this guy is insecure that he has a woman as a boss. And probably also treats women not probably amazing outside of the workplace. Yeah, it's possible for sure. So it's like, yeah, just like, I would say be a girl boss. And it's hard because it's like what you either take it or they think you're like a bitch. Yeah, being a woman is hard and then like being, and then it's like, but you want to be, it's like there might be like a one woman in another department that it's like if you have like this conversation, she's gonna look up to you. You know, it's like I think there actually is like a cool opportunity that you can kind of be intentional. But it's also just like, yes, sit them down, be like, I mean, if it was me, I'd be like, you are delusional if you ever think that I am flirting with you in this workplace, we are here to work. I have my outside life. Like it's like, please can we not do it? It's like, I would be like, I'd rather you think that like I'm a bitch than like think that I'm flirting with you. That will never be the case. Let's end that here right now. Let's get back to work. Moral high. Donut tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I do think it's something, absolutely. I do think it's something that highlights pure professionals and be like, it's completely unprofessional for anyone in this office to think we'll be dating. We're here to work. It's very unprofessional for you to be, you know, talking about me by my back, whatever. But at the same time, I will say you, this, that's only if this raises to the level of a problem. It's also possible that you just care with these fucking pieces of shit think too much. That's a possibility, right? Like you said, people are going to talk about their boss whatever. So I think there's two full things here. For you, you have to let this shit go and you need to work on not being affected by this. And that's hard because yeah. Yeah. Having to deal with that all the time is fucking annoying. Or it's just like, she pretends it isn't like, you're not giving yourself enough credit. You're like, whatever, it's not a big deal. Someone every fucking day tries to fuck you at work. That's annoying. That's you live in hell. You live in a corporate hell. In a corporate job. Those are hell already. I won't talk about this, but I am empathizing. Girl, I'm empathizing with you. Literally men in the workplace. If y'all had a woman in this workplace, I'd feel so sorry for her. We do have one, but she does work remotely most of the time. Good. Yeah. Do not come into work, sweetie. Oh, you heard it. We can't hire any women. And I wanted to, but they won't let me. I also feel like the second she-- Day. [LAUGHTER] I did think that. And why didn't you speak out, you know? I thought you were a chainsaw. I thought you were an ally, you know what? You didn't-- oh, you did that in my back. I guess I'm non-binary, girl. [LAUGHTER] Are you going to be in general a bunch of women? I just feel like the second she confronts him, he's going to be like, I didn't-- But also confronting it gives him almost two-- you almost raise it in seriousness, where it's like-- I don't think this guy is worth a time. I honestly don't. I really don't. But I also think you need to work on not getting your feelings hurt by them, because this sucks dick. This shit's not going to change in our lifetime. Like maybe it will, by the end of your career. But unfortunately, there's how shit should work. And there's the reality of surviving in these environments. And it's like, this is going to be in a male-dominant space. This is how this shit's going to go. And I think you can't let it get to you. And if it raises to the level of a problem, you do have to just, yeah, girl boss. Girl boss. Because the thing is, it's like a guy in a boss or power position, like, wouldn't even be thinking critically like you are in this. You're absolutely-- You would literally just not-- He would fuck the employee. Like, you know, it's like they're not thinking-- Yeah, of course. So it's like-- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So it's like, at least you are thinking about this. But it's like, I think, yeah, you're thinking too hard. You're thinking too hard. Be strong. You got this girl on the boss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go be a millennial girl, boss. Absolutely. Yes, this is-- you have permission to do that. Give us some fun to go out on Little Eldis. Hey, Savi. Big fans, Patron, and subscribers. Yeah. Thank you. I like the difference to go. You're good at that. Thank you. This is not really a question, but more of a funny story. So I'm like a gay, non-binary bitch who lives in the Bay Area. Oh, you're a gay, non-binary bitch who lives in the Bay Area. Like, what's he do? Everybody else. OK. You work at the farmer's market. Bitch who lives in the Bay Area. And it was pride we set past the game. And I was out at, like, an underground trans wave in San Francisco. And I'm walking around this wave. Like, you know, people are stuck in and fucking everywhere. This is the dance floor. It's a whole scene. And I walked past this person who is literally a doppelganger of you to the point where I got so excited. I promise you, this is the fattest, baldest person you've ever seen in your life. Never in my life. As anyone said, this is a doppelganger. And it's been cool. But it's probably like a stone butch. Yeah. It's probably like a non-binary like butch. I will say this is probably way more reasonable of a doppelganger for me than just a fat guy. I bet, yeah, you'll find a butch that has the exact same, was wearing this shirt. And you have a lesbian type of swag. Absolutely. That's not every fat guy has. Absolutely. No, no, no. That's interesting. They are onto something. It's warm. Yeah. It's warm. All right. Let's keep going. Two to three to the point where, like, I got so excited. I thought you yourself was in this stinky transgender, great party. You could just say stinky or transgender, but you don't have to say bye, but bye. It's like we got it. You love adjectives. We just see what that means the same thing. All right. A freight. Go. But no, just the doppelganger and the boot, this person was wearing a t-shirt with your face. Whoa. There were two dovey fans in the room. Respect. But yeah, he had the hair, the mustache, the body, the body, the brown head, the brown head. So, fuck. Here, it's more square. You wanted to let you know. So, did you suck and fuck the doppelganger? Did you suck me off? Because you eat a real fan, if you don't suck, fake me off while they're wearing a t-shirt of me. Fake fans. Yeah. Sounds like you're not too proud. I'm like, you do probably, if you were, I mean, you went to San Francisco, but if you went to a pride party, like you would pull, like, gay, non-binary bitches in the Bay Area. Perhaps you would. You could start a cult there. Yeah, yeah. I would like to actually, we did a movie that we started a cult, but maybe I should start more. Was it in the Bay Area? No. No, it was in Chicago. That's right. I do sometimes think about how awesome would be a starter, just to actually start a cult. Just a sex cult. I think you would have no problem with that. It would have to be a sex cult, because imagine starting a cult and not getting the fuck every week. That's the whole point. No, your point. Yeah. You're sucked by everybody's way. I know. So go check it out. It's like, tell me I have to actually fuck all your wives. That's weird. Literally. I'm going to start a cult, too. It's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be against your cult. Okay. I'm going to give everybody aides in mind, and then they're going to come over to yours. And then you're all going to do like a ritualistic, like killing up the air size sheet. I'm going to kind of do my own thing. Right. Some trans guys. I'm going to do a little one on one. Yeah. Same thing again. Furry. You probably have a lot of furry fans. I don't know. Shout out. Shout out in the comments. Shout out. Shout out. We love you. We love you. It's your first round. You're like the last time I texted you with actually a friend that was trying to, you probably get that so much. Oh, nice. Tell your friends. It was so weird. No, let's, uh, let's talk. end the episode. We have something to discuss. But no, we do that. That is going to do a first for real. This was so fun. This was so fun. Come back sometime. We had a blast. Edie and Marley go check out go check out the special on Veepes.com, as as said, and it comes out in her father's word for real in September on YouTube, like there's like I was wondering if I was like, I could maybe make a few shackles and be on Veepes.com. But if not, I just want people to watch it. So it's very funny. It's the it's higher streaming than Netflix. Like YouTube is the place to be. It is. It's going to blow up on YouTube. Yeah. And that's on y'all. Okay. Yeah. Netflix still a great place to have a special, you know, check out Uncle stop on Netflix coming. What's your new special going to be called? Uncle stop. Uncle stop. Yeah. Uncle stop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're working on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Check out Uncle stop. Check out maybe Bunkle stop. I don't know. Right. Auntie stop. Few years. Yeah. Non-binary lesbian. Auntie stop. Yeah. That would be awesome. Yeah. You can check out Marley in the woods. Check out wherever there's a woods you can find. Yeah. Where shall any anywhere that you want them to find you? Yeah. Marley is Marley on Instagram.com and you know, I get a lot of counts deleted. So it might not be that. Okay. By the time this reaches you, you can't post your full spread hole anymore. I know. They really talk Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg sucks taking that away from us. And they're going back. They're going back in the archives. I'm getting things removed. No later all the time. Oh, really? Yes. And banned from messaging. What was the video like before I knew you posted this video where you're like titties are out. And it's less. That was the funniest video. It was really good. I was living in LA paper on just my nipples. One wasn't let me. It was I was trying to be a housewife. Like the opening where they like, you know, I don't even know. I'm the dog in the pound. I think I do. God. I need that. You do love just being nude. I do. Yeah. Yeah. You were doing like you were doing like a live show fully nude. Yes. I used to do that. I think that's also a young thing. Yeah. I think so too. I just want to be as bad as possible. I know. I mean, it's the way that's how I look at come down. Where it's like, yeah, I'm glad I did it in my 20s. But it's like, I don't want to be the come down guy when I'm going to write 40, you know, I'm like over here doing like shows with like prosthetic balls like fully. It's like nipples fully titties out. Where I'm still I still have one more year in my 20s. Then 30 will be a serious working actress process. Like, you know, it's like then a lot of Hillary Clinton suits. Wait, I'm actually trying to do that because I just know I am because I just got like my first like writing gig. So it's like, okay, what do I wear to an all? An assless suit. You're like, all right. Not bad. As you're pitching, you're just like, so what do you guys think? Yeah. But check. Yeah, fart. That's good stuff. All right, all right. Check all our friends out. Watch the special when it comes out. Tony is out, I think by the time this, I don't know. I'm in a movie that that should be out soon. Tires comes out soon. We got a lot. Tony, the summer is, this is the summer of stop, baby. We got fucking like every summer. Literally until you retire in Greece, it can be the summer. Yeah, where's your TV show? Too much work. All right, it for you. It's like, I'm tired of working. That's the thing, even when you achieve your dream, you have to go to work. No, no, the character, your character is always sleeping. That's not bad. Is drinking is drinking twisted tea and sleeping. That's not bad. We'll get sponsored by twisted tea. Yeah, there we go. All right. We got some stuff to discuss. That's going to do for us this week. Guys, we will see you next week. Bye. Bye.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast episode features hosts and guests Edie Madica and Marley Goddard discussing personal stories, comedy specials, and cultural observations.
  2. Marley works at a summer camp for autistic transgender teenagers, teaching comedy and soccer, and shares experiences from her upbringing in Western Massachusetts.
  3. Edie discusses her comedy special "I'm Just Like You and It Sucks," family background, including a grandmother's flophouse, and her uncle's court case story.
  4. The conversation covers topics like bullying in middle school, cyberbullying, tattoos, and the evolution of personal style and performance in comedy.
  5. A caller asks about touching his wife's butt during sex without clear consent; advice focuses on communication and discussing desires outside of sexual moments.
  6. Another caller, who has a history of being abusive to his brother and sister-in-law, asks about making a joke in his best man speech; hosts strongly advise a sincere apology instead.
  7. A third caller struggles with a friend feeling like a third wheel at a techno festival after bringing his girlfriend; hosts suggest finding a compromise or crew.
  8. A final caller, a woman in a male-dominated workplace, deals with employees gossiping about her friendliness toward men who hit on her; discussion centers on handling workplace dynamics.

Summary:

In this episode of StarVee's World, hosts welcome comedians Edie Madica and Marley Goddard for a lively, unfiltered conversation. They begin with banter about last names, comedy specials, and the streaming platform Veeep, which features stand-up performances. Marley shares her work at a camp for autistic transgender teens, where she teaches comedy and soccer, comparing her experience to a "Harry Potter" world she missed growing up in Western Massachusetts. Edie discusses her family's chaotic background, including her grandmother's flophouse and an uncle who avoided court by being in the hospital, and her comedy special's personal, authentic style.

The conversation shifts to middle school bullying, cyberbullying, and tattoos, with Edie revealing a Hamza tattoo she regrets. They explore themes of authenticity in comedy, appearance, and the pressure on women to look a certain way, with Edie preferring to be relatable rather than "hot." The hosts then take listener calls. One caller asks about touching his wife's butt; they advise open communication outside of sex. Another caller, who has a history of abuse toward his brother and sister-in-law, wants to make a joke in his best man speech; the hosts strongly urge a sincere apology instead. A third caller deals with a friend feeling excluded at a techno festival after bringing his girlfriend, with suggestions to compromise or include a bigger group. Finally, a woman in a male-dominated workplace seeks advice on handling gossip about her friendliness, leading to a discussion on workplace dynamics and stereotypes.

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The guests were Edie Madica and Marley Goddard.

Veeep is a live show's website that you can subscribe to, similar to Netflix, featuring comedy specials.

Marley Goddard grew up in Western Massachusetts, in a small town far from Boston.

Marley was working at a camp for autistic transgender teenagers, doing comedy and drag activities.

Edie has a Hamsa tattoo on her foot, which she got when she turned 18 and now regrets.

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