#190 - Stef Dag and Gabby Bryan

Upa! Welcome everybody to Stabby's World 904-800-STOP! Paulus on the Stabby's World Hotline brought to you by our pals at Visible and we'll solve all your problems. Now let me change my clothing real fast and introduce our guests. Hey, maybe we'll play the theme music again. Upa! Welcome everybody to Stabby's World 904 800-STOP! Paulin will solve all your problems. We're back in the new studio, returning to the couch. We have Gabby Bryan and Steph Day. How are we doing, Gals? Hello! Awesome. Really good. Really good. I like that. You're both glowing. You seem like you're having a great time. Yeah, we both are. How are you having a. Tayon or a U-Tam? You're not Tayon. Let me stop you right there, Gals. I'm a little Tayon. I'm a little Tayon. And you've probably got to spray Tayon in the last month so we've kind of arrived in the center. Usually, you're a different color than me because you're a Croatian, which is a black person of color. And, say it, a person of color for the baldens, right? To a rich girl from New Jersey, that counts as black. Yes, that's right. I'm Bridget Seafire. I wasn't able to see your parents. But I'm so white so usually you're such a different color than that now we're sort of meeting in the middle, which makes me feel black. You're Benjamin Buttoning. And let me just go ahead, you should not feel that way. Maybe the furthest from possibly, and you're just talking pure tone here, right? I would say red. She's the furthest from black. That would say pretty red. Sort of the opposite side of the color wheel. I was saying glowing metaphorically. I was saying it seems like you're in a good place in your life. Do you think we're ugly? Pregnant. No, no, no. You think we're ugly. Pregnant. So what are you looking at us? What do you see? Yeah, I guess if I really had to, yeah, I guess I'll be impregnant is right. Yeah, great personality. Busted for radio. Busted. Do you like the cameras are off? Two different styles of busted gals. If you really got to know, I was trying to be polite and give you a compliment. But I think you're more ugly. I do think you're more ugly. It's the true. No, no, I think you have a, you're a fair skinned person who was at the beach yesterday. Yeah. And it didn't seem like you hit the SPF as hard as you should have. Right. But not in a bad way, right? You know, I think you'll be-- So a bird. You're a little burnt, but you're going to be over it and you're going to look beautiful tomorrow. I think you just had a blush on. No. No. No. That's kind of sad that she's your best friend and I would be-- Well, because you always have, like, reverosatio thing as well. I do. All right, hell yeah. All right. Nancy, call a muggly, watch them fight. Watch them try and prove who's the less ugly one. I get it. I have a pink face and you guys don't shock the fuck up about it. That is true. You're talking to Eastern Europeans here. Yes. And I'm jealous. Yeah. I'm Polish, isn't that Eastern European? But you're a Jew. Yeah. Yeah. Where are you? So we really started getting Croatian. So we really had to prove their Croatian. But you're a Jew, so you're actually from nowhere. But you're not welcome anyway. Yeah, right. You understand that. You kind of do have, like, the DNA type of the people going to Israel and getting sunburned. You know what I mean? Like, Polish Jews are like, we're from here. And then they, like, are allergic to the pollen and they're just red all the time. Yeah, that's exactly right. You would do really poorly, you know, in Israel. In Israel. Hopefully for multiple reasons. You know, hopefully for moral as well as suntan reasons. I love it here. But it's a little hot. Yeah. Is everything else they're doing? Great. No, no. It's just a little hot. What? I'm a shirt. I did do a fake freckle today. Have you heard of this? I like that. You like that? I'm a fan of freckles and I don't see why those who don't have them naturally can't cosplay a little freckling every once in a while. Yeah. What you do is it's like a dark pen and they go like this and they go, I used to do that with Sharpie growing up, as well as where a fake braces. I would, I would bend my. Like braces? Yeah, I'd bend my bangles and put them in my teeth and I always pretend that I had a broken arm and stuff. Wow. Are you jealous of me right now? Yeah. I have like a hospital fantasy. Yeah. There's culture without your costumes. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have, so you kind of were like your own Gypsy Rose? Like your Gypsy Rose's mom to yourself? I was just Gypsy. Yeah. First of all, my culture is Gypsy. Yeah. Yeah. You do have kind of a schizophrenic theme throughout your life. Like in college, you did tell everyone your name was Dakota. I changed my name. Dakota. And this before Dakota Johnson, right? Yeah. This is before Dakota. This is to go to Annie's time. Right before Dakota. Shout out. Shout out to Dakota. Shout out to everyone in school. I had stomach cancer as well. What? You loved the tension. No. No, this is so much cancer. There's like, there is something. There's like the most fatal one. Like, you need to make up one that you could recover from. Yeah. I'm a miracle. I'm a walking miracle. You can have said melanoma. Put a bandaid on. I have prostate cancer. Yeah. Okay, interesting. Hold on. We're going to take these one at a time. Right. Grade school braces. Did you want them? Were you jealous of those with braces? Yeah, I just like wanted something wrong with me. Oh, interesting. Like, I just like wanted something to be wrong with me. So then I developed needing disorder. Right. Because that one I could be controlled. Right, right. That's one of the easiest things you could develop. It's easy. It's not hard. Well, it takes a little bit to get into it. How so? You got to figure out. Figure yourself the trouble. Oh, yeah. See, I, as a little fat kid who loved food so much, but felt like everyone was mad at me for being fat. Yeah. I tried. I literally tried to like throw up. It's hard. And I was like, this is fucking hard. I'm just going to keep you. It's hard. Your blood vessels pop in your face. Yeah. But when I heard about it, I was like, loophole. Yeah, it's kind of the perfect thing. But then it's really not. It's really bad for you. I hope you didn't do it that long. No, it was the perfect thing. It was a decade. A decade. But I didn't make me skinny. What did it do? Here's the thing. Here's the thing about bulimia and doing cocaine. Neither made me skinny. Oh, what are you giving this to? What did it do? No, it's not for me when I was doing cocaine. I was like the fastest I've ever been. I was living in Argentina. It was $7 a bag. I was chubby. Well, I think you might have gotten some stepped on stuff, maybe. Steped on stuff. It was pretty good. So you're what's studying abroad in Argentina? I was studying abroad in Argentina. Okay. Hell yeah. Getting fat. Getting fat off what? The local cuisine? It's a steak, I suppose. Well, that's probably not good. Is it a big steak culture? I don't know. I was drinking a lot. Right. I was fully drinking a bottle of wine a day. It was that. It was a steak. Were you sick as a really little kid? And it felt awesome to get your mom to care for you. So you were like, I want this. Well, I think I wanted them to care for me. Like I would purposely be believing so close to my mom's room. Be like, ugh. I didn't come out and be like, that was crazy. And my mom was like, good night. I was like, keep it down next time. Keep it down. Very loud in the bathroom. It's not good. I'm trying to watch SVU in here. I need to do it in the bathroom. Please leave the bathroom so I could do this. Yeah. It's time for your culture. Yeah. Have you ever caught and never did a parent catch on? No. And then eventually someone told my mom. And then she went on a PR campaign and told all her friends. I just found out that my daughter's believing me. She tried to get attention for it. She tried to take it. She tried to get attention. But holding a gun to each other. She was like, Russian nesting. It was so true. Foreign moms. That's a type of foreign mom that cry about how hard it is for them. Yeah. And then my dad, who's a nutcase and was a drug addict at the time, took me out to dinner and he was like, so I tried that belief thing. And I was like, why? Your dad's gonna relate to you. He was like, he was like, I was brushing my teeth. And I was like, I ate a lot today. And I kind of, and he's like, pretty good. No way. No way. You started a trend. You started a trend. I started a trend. You just did no chance. That's fucking, were they together at the time? Yeah. Legally speaking. Legally speaking. Legally speaking. Interesting. All right. So that was super vulnerable. Yeah. Right on top. Right. Have you grown up recently? No, I can't do it anymore. Okay, good. It is fucking insane the number of girls who like just grow up with a, like a specific, like, whether it's anorexia or bulimia. And it's like, how bad that fucks your. I don't know a single one who hasn't. Had that nothing for you. And now it feels like I'm chubby yet in your face. No, no, it's okay. And I'm-- I raised my hand and then I bailed. I'm like this. Oh, I had it. Gabby, you've had an eating disorder. I've been friends with you for 10 years. You were like vegan. You were like vegan. You were like vegan. You were one of those eating disorder. Oh, yeah. No, I've starved myself in a playful way in adulthood. No, you really for sure had one. But in high school, no. In high school, no. In high school, I was actually too skinny under malnourished. Shut the fuck up. And my dad would make me drink banana cream muscle milk, several a day to sort of gain weight. Oh, wow. And then I would almost puke up the banana cream muscle milk. I'm so jealous. Mm-hmm. You wanted that. She's getting attention for being skinny. Yeah, he's sort of like your dream as a child. And she was sickly and Jewish. Like, people were worried about me because I looked too good. Yeah, yeah. I wanted like someone to be worried about me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that'll happen with a drug addict in a Western European mom. Yeah. I'm worried about you. I'm sorry, I missed that. We just. - I said, I'm worried now if that helps you. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Just now, you've known her a decade? - No, no, she's been really worried. (laughing) - Okay, 'cause in my experience, in my experience with Eastern European moms, they definitely, it's the extremes. Where you have the most loving, you can do nothing wrong, or you have the sternest, like I went through World War II, or communism, or whatever, and all my job is to make you survive, but I don't really think of love in a real way, in any real way. - My mom is very warm, actually. My brother can do no wrong. My mom would find, we'd in my brother's bed, or like alcohol under his bed, and be like, I wonder who put that there? (laughing) And then we found a condom in one of his books ones, and she was like, that is such a weird place for that to be found. (laughing) And then I would have a stain in my bed, and she'd be like, this is heroin's thing. (laughing) She was so crazy. - Oh, interesting. - Wait, was she condom in a book? She would, he carted out a hole in a book and put a condom in it. - That's awesome. That's so Nancy Drew. - That seems like you're discussing that. - And by the way, I had Molly in my underwear drawer. (laughing) - Was he fucking though? 'Cause that feels to me like a plan of someone, like that was something when you're like, oh, I better, I better have my secret condom. - Right, right, right. - Just in case I get pussy. - He was fucking unfortunately, my friends. - Oh, really? (laughing) - Oh my God, this is a disaster. - My home life was a disaster. - Every part of this is a disaster. - Oh yeah. - I have a butterfly tattoo, like I'm not. Well, it just did. - Oh man. - It was close to my friends. - Yeah. - He's one of two of my friends. - He's older? - Yeah. - Okay, that's, if he was younger, he'd be cool. - Right. - Fucking your older sister's friends when you're younger is cool. - He didn't fuck them until later, honestly, until knowledge. But he was, he was dating the most popular girl in school. - Wow. - He just was? - I know, it's funny. 'Cause my brother's very nerdy and like-- - Interesting. - And tiny. - And tiny, that's a tiny boy. - It's a little tiny guy. - He's a five foot six boy. - Wow. So he's pretty tall. - He's like, I'm tall. - So he's like, he's pretty much like average to kind of above average time. - He's exactly who. - He's what I'm saying. - Don't worry about it. He's like, he's barely short as what I'm hearing. (laughing) - He's completely a full grown man. (laughing) - Right, so he's like the starting power forward of the basketball team. - Backward, backward, backward, backward. (laughing) - I do respect the five, six, a five, six guy, like getting pussy. That's kind of awesome. - I think the short guys are getting a lot of pussy. - I think they're getting more pussy. - They're getting more pussy. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause they're getting more pussy. - They're getting pitty pussy. - They're getting pitty. - No. - Pitty pussy. - They get regular pussy and pitty pussy. - No, no, no, no. - You think pitty pussy. - I mean. - I mean, I've been fucking short guys my whole life. - But how short? - Right. - Not shorter than me. - Hmm. - What? - I'll tell you. - I'm like five, eight. - Okay. - I fucked it short. I was dating a short guy in college. That was like five, seven. - Okay. - Like a shorter than me. - Okay, again. - And they fuck good. (laughing) - We're just getting it from the purpose of scouting. - Five, seven is tall. - Five says. - Five, six, short. (laughing) - That's sort of the, that's kind of the dividing line. - That we all societally agree on. - Yes. - I couldn't disagree more. (laughing) - I think that's tiny as hell. (laughing) - Interesting. Why did you fucking chug some banana milk? You fucking dumb bitch. - I'm a mad. (laughing) - I guess it's bitch of banana milk. (laughing) - Somebody get her banana milk the quieter down. Eldis, get the thick milk speak of women who are talking too much in this video. (laughing) - Get her some thick milk. - Hey, here's, you want to have this? It's just like, it's just like the chocolate. - It's just pure honey, your mouth is stuck. It's like a venous fly trap for the rest of the episode. - Gabby, are you ready to say that five, seven is tall? (laughing) - Give her the antidote, Eldis. (laughing) - Yeah, Eldis hit you with a blow dart. (laughing) - Oh, sorry, short games, short games. (laughing) You're really old to me, you're old to me. - That's right, that's more like it. (laughing) - No, I've said this before, but I hilariously, my entire life truly did not know I was short. - How short, how tall are you? - I'm five, seven. - Wait, you are? - I am five, eight, but I think there's power in line and going down one issue. - Wait, I think you're five, nine. - I think that's, my whole life is like tricking people into thinking everything is a little better than it is with personality. - Right, and that's true. - I put the multiplier on, and for some people, it really works, you know? - Yeah, it's interesting. But my whole look, because, because, like, me and Eldis have grown up together, and we were the same height in kindergarten, and my doctor was like, you're gonna be tall as fuck. Like in kindergarten, my doctor's like, you're gonna be so tall. And I think that's the last time I thought about someone saying I was tall or not, and my entire, like growing up, I was like, I'm pretty tall, like I'm not the tallest guy, but I'm not short. - Not a good size. - Like in my head, I'm like, I'm fucking, I also, you know, I don't know. - If it helps, I've never considered you as short. - Nobody, I mean, I also agree with that. - I never really pay attention to you. - I know. - I've never once considered you're high, and even was like, you must be 5, 10. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. - Really? - Thank you for having another inch, the second time. - Of course. You're gonna be 6-5. - Someone's learning, Gabby. (laughing) - So I could, like, - The turn, two runs against this, just turned into, like, bullying you guys. (laughing) - And stuff, you're looking mighty hot right now. Gabby, next to that. - Gabby's really coming through. - Gabby, do you need some aloe vera? This is getting worse by the moment. (laughing) - I feel like it's real in here. (laughing) - I feel like I'm in Tel Aviv, damn yeah. No, I do think, there was just like, I really think, and I just, my whole life, even like, I made the middle school basketball team, so I'm like, basketball teams tall. - Yeah. - And then I went to high school, and it was like, you could not get cut faster. Then I got cut a try out for the basketball team. 'Cause it's Baltimore City Public Schools. Kids are doing, like, windmill dunks. (laughing) We literally had a kid who was 6'10" on our team. - And what was his race? - Uh, he was, I believe he was Filipino. (laughing) - Wait, did you just walk in, and they were like, no! - It was literally like, all right, everybody line up. Let's do a sprint back and forth, and then they blew the whistle, and they're like, you, you, you, you gone. And it was like me, a kid who had a cross-eyed kid. A kid with, like, braces on his knees. And it was like, well, I guess I'll try wrestling. (laughing) - Something a little closer to the ground. - Just get closer to the ground. (laughing) - Wait, I had the opposite. I did gymnastics, and I was so tall, and they would make us, they would make us vault, and then weigh us afterwards. - Oh my God. (laughing) - I'm in horrible life. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I wonder what happened there. - And they would, and they would, Wes, and then they would be like, weigh you? - Yeah, they would, how old were you? - This was, I did gymnastics. I was in the junior Olympics. I did gymnastics for a really long time, and they would call, yeah, they would call over the other coaches when I would go, and they'd be like, look how big this girl is. - Holy shit. - 'Cause I was, I was skinny. Like, you look back at photos. I was like a skinny tall girl. - Of course. - You were a child. - Yeah, you were a child. You should not have been weighed by adults that were supposed to help them grow in a skill. - Yeah. - But all the girls on this scale, they're like, "Jesus." - Jesus Christ. (laughing) (laughing) - They had a button if you're over like 85 pounds at the hot, the hot button sounds. (laughing) - That's so, Jesus Christ. - Yeah. - Wain kids for gymnastics? - Yeah. - What was your best event? - I was, you were gonna be like, not good. - So how much did you win? (laughing) - So what was your sickest wain? (laughing) - No. What was the like, you're, no, you're being modest if you were in the junior Olympics. - Oh, it was good at vault and floor, and I sucked it everything else. - Okay. - I was the worst on the team. - Well, oh, the vault, yeah, that's pretty. - And floor. - And floor. - My floor, I did this. - No, no, no, there's no ribbon. (laughing) - It's a flood. - It's on the circuit. - There's a ribbon. - There's a ribbon. - There's a ribbon. - You're running around, juggling and dancing. - I was good. - Come on, there's a fucking ribbon. - They're like, "Look up ribbon Olympics." - No, no, that was good. - It was a different song. - And more of them. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - And my dancing. - Ribbon dancing. - Ribbon dancing on space. - Yeah, I do that. - The song was the Star Wars theme song 'cause I was cool. - Oh, hell, yeah, the like new hope. - The good one, you weren't evil. You didn't do the Sith one. - Right. - Yeah. - Bum, bum, bum, bum. - That would have been fun, cool. A little golf. - That was before and after they weighed me. - Yeah, they weighed me. I was kind of like bum, bum, bum, bum. - That's fucking insane. And who were the, what are the coaches? Are they like mean ladies or they mean Eastern, 'cause I feel like Eastern European. - They're mean ladies. - It's a coach who would like, who would come and make us condition with the boys and he was really fucking scary. It was intense, it was like five times a week too. - Holy shit. - Oh my god. - Yeah, it was really really intense. - Where was this in New Jersey? - New Jersey, oh, most Jersey gals. - No, no, no, this was like after school. - Like all-star team or whatever, I don't know. - Oh yeah. - And then I did cheerleading, 'cause I like broke my back. And that was also crazy. - What would you break? I have a, I have a fucked up background. - I had two her kneaded discs. - Damn dog. - At what age? - This was middle of high school. And then I, yeah, and then I did cheerleading. - I got a catcher. - When, when was the first good year of your life? - She was like 28. - She was like 28. (laughing) - Honestly, COVID, like 2020. - Again, no one can hurt me in here. (laughing) - You're like paragliding with Bon Jovi. - You're like, you're on a horse. You're like, hey, dad. - Look at me, look how thin I look, that's really-- - That's really, of course. - That's really, of course. - Can someone get me, can I get a servant, get me a banana milk? (laughing) - Oh my God, that's fucking wild. - I'm tied up in a basement. (laughing) - They're still weighing me, too heavy. - Yeah, they just let, for lunch, for lunch, they were just like wave a sandwich below your nose. They're like, all right, three sniff girls, and then back hit the floor again. - That thing is eating, that thing is eating. - That's so fucking crazy. I mean, it seems like they're not doing that shit anymore. It seems like now you can do more. - To me or to-- - No, no, to general, yeah. - To girls, well, they had that, they had that gymnastic doctor who was raping. - Sure, that-- - I'm sure that's still happening. - That's certainly something. - Laser doctor-- - Larry Nasser. - Yeah, a real piece of shit. For the record, we are staunchly opposed to what's loving this. - I hope, I do hope some bad stuff is happening. - I hope it gets hit by-- - A bus. - A bus, he's on my hit list. - I do, like, you don't wanna, I just hope he's having a real tough time in prison. - I can't imagine he's not getting-- - Yeah, a word. - A word. - He's getting a different kind of foot long in prison. - Yeah, that's right. - Yeah. (laughing) - We are sponsored by some way. (laughing) - Some way, remember how our mascot, we just actually was a pedophile? - He's a pedophile. - And we didn't even like change the logo? - You gotta get a new color scheme. - Where did he go? - He's actually, look up how serving time. - He's an Indiana serving time right now. - My question is, is he's still thin? - Ooh. - And what was his name again? - Jerry. - Jerry. - Did he keep the weight off? - That's a great question about-- - That's a great question. - Is the stress in prison-- - Make him thin or fat? - Make him fat. - 'Cause he had enough money to get commissary. So he can probably get his mate Cheetos and shit as he wants. - You ever see those TikToks where it's like a guy's making like a ice cream sundae out of like what you can buy in jail? - No. - There was a great genre of TikToks. It's like, here's a nachos and he would like take a bag of like corn chips and like beat them into like-- - He's out of prison now. - Yeah, but he's just showing you how you ate good in prison. - It's like when you would play top chef with your siblings and be like, what can I make in the fridge, but he's doing it at prison-- - Yeah, in prison. - My algorithm's way different. - I'll tell you this, I went on a date recently with a guy who's been to jail and he told me that in jail they all passed around different books. They share books and when he was in jail, everyone was reading-- - Lying to impress you. - Can't read, can't read. - I wasn't doing any more crime, I was reading. - We had books. - And he said when he was in jail, they were all reading the Twilight Saga. - That's awesome. - That's fucking interesting. - All of these true, blue murderers. - Well, you went on a date with a guy who was in that kind of jail? - No. - I guess not. - We got to go in jail. - He probably did like white collar crime. - I don't really know the different kinds of kids. - Do you know what he did? - Drugs. - Oh. - What happened? - Selling? - Doing? - Selling, doing. - It usually goes hand in hand. - I thought they're all in their misc. - No, they're like that. - No, they're not like that. - They're kind of crap in there. - And there's two different things. - He was in prison. - He was in prison. - Oh. - Jailers, they just hold you there for a little bit before you go to prison. - Should I text him if he was in jail or prison? - Yeah, yeah, no, don't do that. I actually did a go, did they go well? - Yeah, we're kind of seeing each other. - Oh, wow, good for you. Is he a nice guy? You guys-- - Is he getting a full full full full full full full full full full full full fullた. - Hey, were you in jail or prison? - And were you team Jacob or team Edward? (laughing) - Great, thank you. (laughing) - We'll find out soon. - I can't wait. - Awesome. - And where did you meet the internet? - The internet. - Nice. - Yeah. - Cool. - Gabby gets cool guys in her DMs in a way that I don't. - I've been really playing the DMs in a fun way. - Hmm. - What? - I don't get, those are dating apps. - I don't get those are dating apps. - Those aren't coming through in my DMs. (laughing) - Yeah, what's going on? - My DMs are like, I mean, Gabby always joke because we toured together - And the line to meet Gabby is girls that are like, - They're like, (laughing) - And then my line is like guys standing like this. Literally like this and they're like, (laughing) - What do you think about the war? - Yeah, it's kind of like your fan base shit. Like, I bet we kind of have the same fans, but I just have zero points. You're one percent of that stuff, though. I would not want this. - And it's your worst one. - Yeah, I would not want a small of like year one come town. - Yeah. - I don't want the, - Oh, they're my boys. - That's exactly what they're like, baby boys. - Yeah, yeah. - Well, you know what, I'm glad to see they've moved on. - And then, yeah, my DMs, it's not like hot, cool guys. - Yeah, but I DM too. - Couple guys really devastated listening to this podcast right now. (laughing) - Like I'm in DMs every day. - There's some five, seven guys. (laughing) - Which is big. - Yeah, which is huge as you're covered. - That's where tall starts. (laughing) - That's where tall starts. (laughing) - So you're a real height queen, huh, Gab? - Yeah, I'm a bit of a heightist, but I'm tall, I'm five, 10. - Interesting, see, I think we have the opposite where I just don't, again, I have a mental illness where I think I'm like better at everything than I actually am, which has served me, I think it's good if you think-- - That's a mental illness. - I think it, yeah, I think it's like being-- - Speak on it. - Thinking you're like 15% better at everything than you are, is a perfect amount. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's not full delusion. - Gabby has that too. - But it's confidence. - I would bump Gabby's up a couple percent. - Gabby has, we would-- - I would get to 30%. - Gabby has said, Gabby is like we did in the eyes and said she has no insecurities. (all laughing) I said, surely that's not true. She's like, can't think of one. (all laughing) - This is really, we're really being pitted against each other right now, but it is true I have perfect mental health. (all laughing) - I'm gonna make, I would argue you don't, but I'm happy for you. - She has no imposter syndrome. - That's true. - She's the only person I know who doesn't have imposter syndrome. - That's big. - That's big. - No, Tommy doesn't have imposter syndrome. - Yeah, but he's a man. - Well, men don't have imposter syndrome. - I did, it takes a lot. Like, it really took to be like, the first time I got nervous in a while was like doing a movie with Emma Stone. Like, that's where I had, that's where I was like, which, that wasn't imposter syndrome. That was like, why am I here? Like, I was like, that's like correct. - I was feeling correct. - That was the correct emotion. - Thank God, Yorgos Lantimos was watching tires one night, I guess. (all laughing) I don't know how, I still do this day. - So cool. - It's so random, it's so perfect. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But that, that was like, the first time I was like, oh, fuck, but now I'm like, it took, it's like, now I'm like, oh yeah, I'm a fucking Hollywood. - Thank God, Hollywood. - No, I don't give a fuck at all. Now it's actually kind of fun because I am shooting a movie and I'm kind of treating it like I did like, my job I kind of cared about, you know what I'm saying? - That's perfect. - That's what you're supposed to get to. - I'll just show up. - Wait, do you know that we're both obsessed with Anthony Bourdain? - Oh, well, yeah. - He's, yeah. - You're in what? - Anthony Bourdain biopic. - Are you playing Anthony? - Yeah, I'm young, I'm in flashback. I play him as a child. (all laughing) - Oh my God, that's so-- - Trust the New Jersey. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm eating a big lollipop. I'm like, I hope I learn what a cacole is someday. (all laughing) - Your first words. - Catch you at pip pip. (all laughing) - Yes, I'm in the Anthony Bourdain biopic. I play, I don't want to spoil too much. But I think you can guess, I play a line cook who bullies young Anthony Bourdain. (all laughing) - Fuck, I want that roll. - Oh, I went out for that, actually. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We were both up for this. - We were pretty pissed together. - Sorry, Gales. - No, Anthony Bourdain is the love of both of our lives. - Love in our lives. - Interesting, that's a little millennial of you. That's a little-- - Is we are millennial, hey? - I know, you're cuss. - I'm trying so hard to not see, like what? - I'm solid millennial. - You're solid millennial. - No, no, he is the man. I fucking love Bourdain and those shows were, he was the, and I, it's millennial of you and I say that as a 37 year old fully, millennial motherfucker who loves him. It's like, that feels like one of our defining like generational things. - It's our guy. - Yeah. - They don't make good guys like that anymore. He was a solid man, I think. - He was everything and more. - Yeah. - And his books, his books for me. - His books are great. - Not to talk about books again. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, let's see. I feel like he's never assaulted someone. And that's rare. - Yeah. - Well, you know, I guess. - In terms of Hollywood. - Man. - Actually, actually, this biopic does take place in the first, it's basically the first two chapters of kitchen confidential. It's like his first summer in Provincetown. And he, I think he did get married to like, the girl he dated as a team for a long time. - And then they got to print. - Now. - Was he a team? - The second that kitchen confidential money hit all the sudden. - He really got to see what. - So, you know. - He was a really fucking hooker. It was like, I can see that for him. He was doing heroin and fucking hooker. - Which is cool. - Yeah. - Which is cool. - Which is cool. - And I bet he treated them nicely. - Totally. - Yeah. If you're a sex worker dealing with a heroin addict, there's no better one than that. - Yeah. - That's a good one. - But those guys are probably, yeah. - Right. - He's probably gentle. - He's cooking afterwards. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's ramen noodle hot dogs, you know. You're in a crack dinner wherever it is. But yeah, he's making the best of it. - But who's playing Anthony? Is that public? - Yeah, Dom Sessa from the Holdovers. - Don't know. Do you know? - He's a hot guy. - He's perfect. He's perfect for it. He fucking killed it. - And he's a fucking piece ass. Look him up. I think you'll both enjoy him. - Is he single? - I think you're setting us up with that. - You want me to say you're with Dom? Who's also like 25? - Literally, so be up with anyone. That's fine. I don't care. - Okay. - Is that anyone? - That should be something that's sort of bubbling around in your head. - You want to see, you're the fact that this is just such proof that like, you know, we are friends, but we're not immediately set you up with all the movie stars. I know friends. - I thought you were. I actually thought we were your baby. [BLANK_AUDIO] - You don't see why you want to consider that. - Hold on, let me take a pick and I'll send you a big-- - We've met. - Do you want to smack? Okay, you text your current, you know, prison boyfriend? - Picture me at this free time. - I'll text Dom and be like, hey, do you want to fuck either one of these girls? (laughing) - Just put that right on your story. (laughing) Just go ahead and put that right on your story. - Say to any A-list celebrity, and your girls, I'm available for work. (laughing) - As well as jobs. - Yep, yep, yep. - We're good jobs right here. - No, I can't have sex with the 25-year-old. That's on you. - Yeah, that's where you should. - That's where you should. - Wow, we do have a lot in common stuff. (laughing) - Just to scumbag Eastern European stuff, yeah. (laughing) - Oh, interesting, is that what you're into? - No, actually, that's actually, we said that, but I've never fucked a younger guy. - Oh wow. - But I fucked men who were emotionally a lepon. - Oh, come on. - So-- - Don't say 11. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughing) - 11. - Now mentally, mentally, mentally. - They're mentally 11. - Okay, that's tough. - They're not old souls, but they're old men. Yeah, you know, but that's not my story anymore. - Yeah, no, you're different. - No, we're changing the narrative. - What are we changing? Let's work on this. - I had a tarot card reader the other day. Tell me that I am gonna meet my man soon. He's gonna be an airy, he's gonna work an entertainment. He's gonna be very, very rich. - Where are you assigned? - I'm a Aquarius unfortunately. - Oh, bad, bad, bad, bad. - We were just about to get married. Honestly, everything else except the airy's does check the box. - Aquarius is better than airy's, in my opinion. - I don't know, Aquarius, I can't do another air sign. - This is why your life's bad, by the way. (laughing) - The fact that you're letting someone-- - I got so genuinely, and I was like, oh, you're right. - No, it gets horrible. - And what about it? Educate me, what about the air sign? - So, I'm a water, I'm a cancer, and that's the most sensitive sign, the most feminine sign actually, and I need someone who's flowy and grounded. Air signs are all like, I just don't really know right now. Like, you know what I'm just trying to get-- - You got me there. - Exactly. - You do get it. - They're in the clouds. I'm in the creek, I'm in the babbling bro. - Right, you're in the mud. - You're up there. - Well, I didn't say that. - I'm in the mud, I'm in the clouds. (laughing) - I'm fine with it. - I'm fine with the bird. (laughing) - You're down there. (laughing) - You know what I was doing? - You know what I was a troll. - Yeah. (laughing) - Have a little fatty. - No. - Your friend rides back, she's a little fat. (laughing) - Yeah, I'll take the fat one. (laughing) - No, you are not fat. I'm sorry you had an eating disorder. I'm sorry to aim, you know, as a mem-- See, as a thing, men also. I clearly haven't eaten disorder, by the way. It's just the complete opposite one of your ways. - Benjiden, you're just not purging after the bans. - No, no, I just didn't get the purge, right? But I have an insanely unhealthy relationship to food. It's for sure. - I don't know anyone who has like a good relationship to food. - Genuinely. - Genuinely. - No, sometimes you just see a person like, you used to be out to lunch and they'll just have like three quarters of a sandwich and be like, that was it. - Yeah, I guess I did. - Yeah, but that person is a serial killer. - They're out there. - I only overeat or under eat. - Same. - Those are my two modes. - Interesting. - And I'm the way that, and I don't cook and I don't have regular food in my house. (laughing) - You gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. - Yeah. - I mean, the peptides, oh. - Oh, we're getting pepped up. - Gabby's not got, what do you want to talk about it? - Well, I am a peptide princess right now. - I'd love to get into, I can't wait to do a bunch of peptides. - Why don't you do a bunch of six? - Because I right now have two traumatic injuries and I'm filming a movie. - There's a peptide for that. - This is excuse. (laughing) - Yeah, I do want to get some-- - Work's just been crazy right now. - Yeah. - I don't even have time to inject my body now. - Where do you get these though? Do you have like a guy? - I have a dealer who lives in Arizona. - Okay, so that's a problem. So, you know what I mean? Like, I'd love for a doctor to do this. - And you might also have a doctor in Boyfriend. (laughing) - Yeah, she did. - Wait, really? (laughing) - She did. - I have a doctor? You don't want a doctor. But I'm such a Jew that the doctor was too much money, so I found a dealer to describe me the same things and now I pay a third of the price. - Oh, interesting, okay. - And it's obviously a little league baseball coach in Arizona. (laughing) - Oh, that's like an awesome. - He sounds cool. - No, he's cool as well. - He sounds really cool. Yeah, well, I'm gonna be in Phoenix. Tell 'em to come by. - Gabby's been trying to get me on these peptides. - I'm loving the peptides. - And what's it doing for you? - I'm on several different ones. - She's on a lot. - I'm on a lot. - Okay, and do you think, why? - 'Cause I'm having multiple jobs every day. - I'm doing multiple jobs I like in the morning. - Every day? - Yeah, I like it. - No, hold on, you do a shot every fucking day. - Multiple jobs. - Multiple jobs. - Wow, okay. - I'm up. - What do you do? - I take one by one, right in the side of my ass. - Oh, little this. - Little. - Cool. - And it's fun, and it's exciting. - What are we doing? - She's been actually like, she's on crack cocaine. - Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun with it. I'm on something called red a true tie that only men with Bitcoin are on and me. - Doesn't that make you jacked? - It makes you jacked. - Is that why you're red? You're not actually, are you not actually have a sunbird? - My blood is going stuck in the street parts. (laughing) - I'm on that one, I'm on NAD, what you're doing. I'm on a hair skin and nails one. - NAD. - NAD. - NAD is not, I think NAD is really just like a vitamin. - NAD is just like, it's not red. - I did it one time and it felt good. - I really like it. - That one, I feel like I'm not scared of the risks. But what, make you jacked? - It's a GLP3, so it basically dissolves all of that. - Oh yeah, you shouldn't be on that. You're fucking so skinny, that's insane. - I know, but it's like. - Remember Gabby said she had to go insecurity. - I said, as a never had anything to say. - This is fucking crazy. - Oh no, yeah. (laughing) - Someone who was so malnourished as a child, her dad had to treat her like a leukemia patient. - I missed the name. - He's on reddit truth. - You're on, I'm on a GLP1, you're on a GLP3. Of the people in this room, you're on a more, you're on the more advanced fat loss drug. - Yeah. - That's insane, yeah. - But I'm on a microdose. - Okay. - Well, it started with my friend Tukko Zempe, and she lost like 30 pounds and every now and then, I was like, let me just get a hit. - Right, that's not how it works. - Yeah. (laughing) - It can be. - It really shouldn't be. - I've been just doing it. - Okay, all right. Yeah, no, you're right. You have no mental health problems whatsoever. (laughing) - Okay, that's nice. And are you, and so, you're looking to ride peptides to a better life? - I'm just interested in how far we could push this, you know what I mean? - Would you like to be a, would you put like robotic stuff in your body? - Yeah, yeah, I would do full transplant, brain transplant. - She's being serious. - I would do anything. I would genuinely do anything. - What's the dream? Like, I read a book where they would clone you, and they, and you could, you just had like, young version, like you picked whenever you thought you were the hottest, and you just cloned yourself at that moment. And any time you're like, body started like, you would just trade in a new body every like five years. - So I could like, have my 11 year old body? - What is with my legs? (laughing) - So I can finally understand them and the man I'm dating. (laughing) - Now we're out, now we're out, now we're out, now we're out. - Your brain unfortunately would stay the same stuff. - You sure take out a pile. - Yeah. (laughing) - I would take out all my blood, replace it with virgin blood, but I would be doing sort of classic witch moves, yeah. - I'll do all of it. - Okay. I don't think you should want to do all that stuff. - Why? - And you're healthy, like, why are you doing that? - Because it's fun, I'm from New Jersey, it's like part of the culture. - Well, I guess your dad was on, was it meth? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So this is a positive, I guess, generation. - Is your dad taking peptides? - Yes, everyone in my family's on peptides. - Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. - That's fucking awesome. - My dad's really doing- - How was your dad, by the way? - I love, one day we gotta get you and your pops on. - Oh, whenever you want. - Together, I would love. - Hey, you know what, my dad, I'm too- - I would actually. - Wait, you guys know what, my dad, I'm- - I would have, if you want to contact him for, I assume the first time in a decade. - Anyone who knows where he is. (laughing) - If you could turn him-- - Get him on the pod. I'm sure some, one of your viewers has sold him cocaine. - Tell him it pays $250, maybe he'll show up. (laughing) - We got a, there's enough of an order, he's already here. - Hello? (laughing) - He's carrying out one of the TVs in the fucking lobby. - He's stealing the copper. (laughing) - Oh, fuck. - No, he's so brave. - Oh yeah. (laughing) - No, he has turned his life around. - Oh, good for him. - No, he's doing good. - He's a religious wise, like did he go like-- - He got really into AA. - Oh, okay. - But he's not really, he's not like drinking the coolate of the religious stuff. He's, my dad's actually really funny and cool and like a hippie guy, but he doesn't call me. - Right. - Yeah, okay. (laughing) - That's actually, yeah. That's tough, 'cause he's were sober now. - Yes, he is. - You know that's the thing, it's like, you're gonna have alcohol. - Well, he was, when he was on an ad. - He's still your spot. - That was like, he's like, ah, what am I gonna fucking do today, fuck, this is boring. - He's sober, sucks. I guess I'll crack another Siddoku or something. - Do I have any close relations, I have to call? - Nah, nah. - Maybe I'll take my son to a baseball game. Maybe I'll take my perfect son to a baseball game. (laughing) - My perfect small son. (laughing) - Damn, did you ever get a stepdad, or did mom go say-- - So here's the thing, my mom-- - This is actually topical. - Okay. - It's been dating a man named for 10 years. - Okay. - And he's an accountant, and my mom has roped him into doing all of her gypsy friends' taxes. - Awesome. - So it's just picture like 15 Eastern European women. He's doing their taxes for free. - Oh, okay. - This year, my taxes were such a nightmare that he broke up with my mom over it. - No. - He's so mad at my mom, he's ghosting her. Because he begged her not to open me an S. Corp my mom did it anyway she opened it wrong. Oh, she also called it these it's this sucks productions But she did this sucks production also because she was like, it's just one right right and she opened it wrong And she felt the right paperwork. I'm being fined. I don't know and he dumped her He's not he's not talking to her right now I haven't filed my taxes yet. That's awesome. He's just clearly been cheating. There's like nice an excuse He's like, yeah, it's for crazy Your daughter's you bitch don't have that daughter's your bad bitch daughter The first that last Jesus Christ I'm drinking now Damn you really do need to do your taxes. Yeah, you get to be your boyfriend. I Don't know you don't know you don't have a guy. I'm like really bad at like surviving it like I have like low-survival Instinct that's actually true It is true. She does have like four Steph has always had like the best job. I have two 401k. She is too far on case. She doesn't know how to get access to the last work Okay, I've had I've been in corporate America since I was wait really 7. What would you do the youngest director at conda and asked ever? That's true, but I like wait, what do you mean? Like I would direct videos for like oh good GQ and stuff But and I've like been financially independent from forever and all this stuff But I'm like also like fully She was the youngest director at conda nascent we'd go on a trip and her plant she wouldn't pick a seat on the plane Right, like I don't have a phone charger with me. Yeah, she would just buy I see but I'm like the running businesses But like how I and I would keep getting promoted in So you can do high-level sort of stuff, but you the day-to-day is boring to you. Yeah, yeah, okay Yeah, like I don't I don't buy groceries. I don't cuz I think you need a little five four husband to do all your to do tasks for you Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can keep in your purse. Yeah, a little guy If you know any Yeah, why so those DMs are lighten up sister And let's just say it's not gonna be an improvement on you on what you were complaining about at the beginning of the episode a little bit worse I get that though because I feel I actually feel the exact same way where I Like would oftentimes Like my whole life, I've never thought about money and then it just I got lucky the things went the way they did But I can't I don't know how to like, you know I don't know how to like like if a if a let if a bill comes like of a paper bill comes It's never getting fucking. Yeah, I don't know how to do I don't know how to do upkeep stuff low executive function Very low executive function. Yeah, I can't plan stuff like Sometimes I get really excited to sit down and like be like I'm gonna think about this the next two weeks and it takes me like Just four hours to look at a calendar and be like podcast at 12. Yeah, I'm like fuck dude. All right. I need a break Just literally scheduling shit takes me so fucking long like Logistical shit like that takes but creative and it sounds like maybe it's a similar thing where things that excite you You can do things that you see is like your time a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, but so numbers are hard We're vibes. We're more vibes and we are numbers. We're about that. I just but dwindling attention span because of social media So then that's also going so I'm like fully becoming like kind of like this Gen Z Gen Z. You can't that's not how it works If you give yourself the same like Mental illness of a young person you don't become young you understand that right? That's what she's doing We and gavier both experimenting different formats. That's what of her treatment. I see I see I see Okay, are you just depressed? It sounds like I actually don't think I'm depressed. I think I'm like pretty it's just your affect What you said that I actually don't think Pretty I'm like a pretty joyful person. Yeah. I just Complaints I get in some hole. I don't am I complaining a lot? It seems like you're not sad. I think I'm just It just seems like you're not sad. I'm not saying I'm not genuine. They confuse. I think it's because I have a prune and I'm saying I've been to blonde Anything I say seems like I'm not that stupid Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm like the one with yellow hair happy This is the least goth I've ever been, right? Yeah, I'm pretty Okay Okay, you know, all right. We'll revisit in a few months She loved Anthony board. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I just know I got depressed once I when I broke my When I broke my arm and I the fucking postpone a bunch of shit It just I was like, oh right. This is what like I love post-productive Post-poly stuff's fun, but have you an injury is the worst thing? Yeah, yeah, I once broke both my feet And I had a cancel a year of my life Broke your feet. Yes, how cuz she had an eating disorder My I was thinking and I wasn't taking vitamins and my bones were very brittle and I was walking down the street I was walking you fucking broke two feet walking. Yeah, I sort of was like playing with a dog a little bit I went like this and I was wearing those fake Balenciaga socks sneakers. You remember those? Yeah, and my foot sort of fell off the Maybe the worst shoes of all she had a decades long eating just yeah, yeah, she was walking and went yeah Yeah, yeah, that's fucking and what did you do? You just fucking laid it? I sort of laid up I was I was obviously living with a boyfriend who had no teeth and he would sort of carry me around and he was doing a lot of Carrying this is really I think this this is proof of like a Perspective changing everything cuz Gabby's life also sounds bad, but she's smiling about it Smiling this whole time, but there is a different. I think you'll know. I think there's a quality to like Gabby's legitimately having it like happy Yeah, you know, it's your face is smiling those eyes Those eyes can Working on it I think N.A.D. is really gonna Feel so good. You leave it a little more delusion. That's really all it is. Yeah, I'm very I'm very realistic Who was the toothless guy? Where did you find him? He was a British guy. He had no front teeth But the teeth next to the front teeth were gold. Oh cool He had skabies he had active long-lasting skabies He had an old gelopy that broke down in the back of my cousin's house And he left it there for six months to a year That's not yeah, you know move back to England. He's doing very well good for him Yeah, and you both seem to love England. I feel like every time I look at Instagram one of you England pilled me Yeah, yeah, what's up with that? I just love it. They're all so She's an angel file. I don't really like it that much. I like it I like the accents. I'm actually coming off of it right now, and I've been sort of into America, but like If Israel wasn't that hot, I'd be there and now I want to come to America No, I really like England. I like the I just like it. I loved London I did I went to I wanted to hate it so bad I want to be like in London so I could dig New York number one baby, and then you're like it is a little better than New York It's so much better. It's just people are funny and they love so much. Let me say not so much pop cultures cool Liverpool is the best better nightlife. I don't think I've been delivered Manchester's amazing like this is not amazing That's fucking ridiculous. Is that where I went? It's like a fucking mall. That was one of the places. Manchester so beautiful Yeah, the best I'm beautiful. It's beautiful. No, it's fucking Well, you're greeting on a curve. It's England. Yeah, it had like Burger King. It was the place that it was like a fucking Strip mall, yeah, I guess that was right by the train station and everything. You're at their vernal Broadway. Judging you are by Penn station. Yeah, it's better than fucking whatever I saw in Manchester. I don't know. The world's Most famous arena right across the street pizza supremac right there got a great slice. I don't know. Sounds pretty fucking good to me And you guessed it. There's also a subway. Yeah, we went to Wales, which is an England, but that was fun. I love Ireland. I like the UK. I like I like how they're all violent. Mm-hmm and a press. You're 10 over there. Oh, that's a good point. Also, they're very that makes sense Yeah, well the guys I think England has the most disparity the guys are really hot and the girls are fucking ugly Mm-hmm except the people that come to our shows. Yeah, um, but so busted you said a lot. No, no, no, you can't walk that back a lot of busted Horses over in England. Yeah, it's not a great looking group. So you you walk around and I don't see in my head I just think about like like I guess I only think about when I've heard black girls talk into British accent and to me That's so hot that I'm like the girls are hot. I think the accent catches me black British guys The rapper and I'm like yeah, yeah, there's I do like everyone's in a blazer. Mm-hmm. I like that. I like that. I like that. In short of chose. In short of chose. Yeah, yeah I'm and then you but then like so you prefer other parts because I feel like you you're both always traveling internationally Yeah, that's true. Were you just in Europe? I'm a euro girl through and through you know, but I'm big on meant the South - Hell yeah girl. - Mediterranean, you know. But I also love, hey, Berlin. - Oh. - Right. - Hey, I'm so Berlin, I love Kennedy. - I love Kennedy. - I was just in Berlin, and I kind of want to move there. - Interesting. - Did you go to Bernheim? - Bernheim? - Did you say that? - Bernheim. - No, it wasn't open because it wasn't a weekend, but I'll be going. I like, we'll go on like one bendery here. That's like, that then puts me out for the rest of the year. - Yeah, so, that's awesome. Definitely something you want to think about. - When it's like, all you're looking forward to is that bendery, you're like, "Let me just get to the fucking drug addiction." - Can't work for my potassium. - And each year, it gets a couple days longer. - Yeah. - Famously, I always end up in a hospital in Europe as you know. - Any time, Steph, Steph acts like, first of all, we go to Europe all the time. - Yeah. - Together. And any time we go to Europe, Steph acts like, "Oh, I'm partying, I'm partying." No, she gets strep day two. - Day two. - She goes, immediately goes to the hospital. - Wait, you get strep a lot too? - I get strep every time I leave my house. - Me too. - I think it's an STD. - You think so? - I think one, it's an STD. - Hold on, do you get as a kid? - I don't. - I cut it a lot. - 'Cause I got it as a kid and it just kept going. Every time we're on tour, I get strep at least one. - 'Cause I think it's from exhaustion and like, I think your body just, whatever. But yeah, I get it every time. - You guys really try NAD. (laughing) - Well, now I carry on. - I wear everything in a nice routine. - I went to Mexico, I got a monster sale. - The Phoenix little sluggish post. He really says you should do some NAD. (laughing) - When he's not rearranging little fat child, which fat child is gonna play catcher, which was gonna be in right here. - Trigger, trigger, trigger, trigger. - Hey, hey, come on. No one was a fat or child here than me. All right, let's fucking relax. - I was incredibly thin. - Yeah, yeah. - No. Yeah, she's always in a hospital. - Did you have to go this time? To a hospital? - This time I didn't, I was sick. But now I carry around a moxasillum from Mexico that I got at a Mexican pharmacy, just in case. And I sorta just start taking that right before I go. - And. - I really shouldn't do that. You really shouldn't just take antibiotics, just in case. - Yeah. - That also fucks up your gut. - I recently had strep twice in two weeks. - Whoa. - I got strep, I think I gave it to a guy. He didn't take antibiotics. I went back, we had sex again. And then he gave me back my own strep. And he never took antibiotics. - Whoa. - And I was on them for a month. - Do you think his like, Thompson's gonna explode? - I don't know, I was looking at his tonsils and they didn't look good. - Yeah. - But he was like, I'm gonna pass it. And I was like, I don't know. - But he's fine now. - That's one of the dumbest things you could possibly, it's like, the most, you take one antibiotic, you feel like 80% better immediately. - Immediately. - This is a dumb guy. - This is a dumb guy who dies from strep. (laughing) Obviously. - Not in prison. We're in some of his negative attributes. - He's a 100 gel too. - Oh. - Multiple times. (cheering) - He's awesome. - He's like a guy with a little grit. - Back in my own clothes, girls. And I think it's time we hit the Stavis Road hotline brought to you by our pals at Visible for some calls. - You guys true, you know what? No one has showed what experts they are and how exactly right they are to give people advice to you too. Then the first 50 minutes of this podcast, no one has done a more authoritative job convincing our listeners that they should heed your word than what we've just experienced. - I have perfect mental health. Don't forget that. - Yeah, yeah. - First question. - Without further ado, I don't know why we're wasting time. Let's use these two beautiful brains to help our colleagues. - Out and faces. - As well as the bodies. - Right, let's use these two nice brains and pretty good bodies to help our - But it's a sad, beautiful woman. (laughing) - And so, anyway, go ahead. (laughing) - Hi, Tommy. I have been married about 12 years this year. - Wow. - Nice. - When we first got married, I found out my husband had cheated on me with some escort services. - Oh. - This was shortly after I gave birth to our first daughter. - Oh. - Ooh. - We worked through that. I had another kid. - He's still fucking them. - Perfect. - Kid, then a few years later I felt pressured to be in an open marriage, which I didn't want. - It's me. - She doesn't see that. - Jesus Christ, this is brutalist poor girl. Keep going. - Is that meeting someone? - And I did have an affair. - You have an affair. - He told you to open. - He wanted you to fuck, so he could keep fucking sex workers. He wanted you to just dick down your fucking- - I think I left this voicemail. (laughing) - I've been in a sex situation. I'm not kidding. - So that's two kids, by the way. Both have strapped. Keep going. - A affair for about 20 months. And I felt really bad about it. - Wait, wait, Elvis, do we miss something? She did this when she felt she was in an open relationship. Right? - Yeah. - That's not an affair. - She calls it an affair, but it was after. - This poor girl. - There was poly rules. - She saw that she broke. - And she's being manipulated, obviously. - Yeah, but she does, yeah, she feels, even if there were technically rules, like, it is funny. I do have a friend who figured out a way to cheat in an open relationship. And it's like, come on. - That happened to me. - Really? - Yeah, because our rule was like, no, X's. And then he fucked his ass. - That's crazy. - Yeah. - I mean, that's cheating, no matter what the circumstance is. - Right, and it just happened to me. - This is the thing. - Oh my God. - Yeah, no, I was real off about you being devastated right now. I'm the one, I'm the one reading the situation wrong. - That's sad, that's your singing arise. It's actually joy. - Yeah. - They're sorry on my face. (laughing) - Keep going, Jesus Christ. - And I felt really bad about it. So I ended up telling my husband. - Oh my God. - Why? - He was extremely upset, which surprised me because he wanted an open marriage. - Yeah. - Oh, so he wanted an open marriage and then she, but they didn't officially do it. And so she started an affair. - Okay. - I see, I see, I see. - Ah, damn, it does hurt that you did something dumb. 'Cause you were, you had the other hand. - But I don't think that's the truth. - I think that, they were in an open relationship. And then the affair was that it wasn't just fucking. She was like. - Oh, yeah. - It was emotional. Okay. And I had figured he was probably cheating on me anyway. - No, why? - So we're in therapy now. - Oh my God. - We're trying to move forward. - Damn. - And the other day, he said that I looked better and I was putting more effort into my appearance when I was having an affair. - Oh. - And that I don't do that for him anymore. - He's like so fun. - So can you suck off your coworker again? - So you hit the elliptical every once in a while. - I would genuinely, and I'm being serious. - Yeah. - Poison and murder this man. - I mean, that's an, it's funny because I do, again, I guess I see the twisted logic here of being like, hey, you know, while you were cheating, you like cared how you looked. It's like, you clearly like, it would be nice if you put that effort. Now, if it came from someone who hadn't already cheated on her, hadn't pressured her like, this is crazy. It's a, we know this guy, you kind of have to be like, all right, she kind of gave me a get out of jail free card. - Yeah. - I guess that's what he's doing. - That guy's never gonna do that though. - Yeah. - I dated this guy. They're sick. - Yeah, cool. - And they're narcissistic. - They're narcissistic. (laughing) - I mean, if you want to pick it right, it's up to you. (laughing) - I think so. - I think so. - Keep going. - It's like just answer my question. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, I'm really good guy. I'm confused because I'm the same size I wear the same clothes. I'm 5'8", I'm the size 6'8". - She's giving this room to me. - I know I look good. - Oh my God. - I'm gonna cry. - I don't really know what he's trying to say here. - I know, this girl always sounds like Stas. - I don't know what she's looking for. (laughing) - What I should do from here is, it might have been just never satisfied. - Yeah, he's a piece of show. - Am I never going to be enough for him? - Yes. - Yeah, this is an intrinsically evil man. - And I want him to get a work because we have two kids. - This is emotional abuse. - This is abuse, this is abuse. - At the very least, it's a horrible relationship. - Never say together for the kids. I've never understood that. That's crazy. - It's never worked. - You're not crazy. You're not crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I get when you're so wrapped up, sometimes when you've constructed such a story about a relationship to justify why you're still in it, it's really hard to unravel from that. - Yeah, I mean, that's psychologically that's very true, but also when you have a, these people also just have logistically, they're bound together, they have two kids. They've, I mean, even just having to get a place. Like they probably have a house together in a part, like, your life. - There's like 10 stars. - Inertia, inertia is so every layer, every year you're in a like marriage. And it just like adds a layer of inertia that keeps you in it. - Yeah. - I mean, so that's clearly what you said. I mean, look, the real answer here is, a guy's cheating on his pregnant wife with S-corts. - No, this is the same answer. - You break up with that guy. - Like, man. - You just say, oh, this, I don't want this guy to be like, you know, you gave him a second shot, and then he, you work through it, you said, and then he clearly tried to like, he just repackaged cheating with open relationship. - Yeah. - This like, this like millennial branding, like remember, there's that company Bloom that just like put bright colors on Meta Muscle, and was like, it's good for your digestion. - Yeah. - It was just like, what are grandparents used to fucking drink? It's like, that-- - I felt for that. - They basically have done that with open relationships is just millennial rebranding cheating. - It's horrible. - And so, this is, yeah, yeah, it's fucking crazy. - So I was doing it. - Yeah, no, it's so bad. - So do it. - First of all, don't do it. - I think the first time you do the podcast, you're in the depths of that, and just probably, privately, I was just like, never gonna work. Never gonna work. - Never gonna work. - And I did it! - And I did it! - And there was literally like 20 minutes of my life where I pitched that to somebody, and instantly I felt like a fucking idiot. I was like, "No, never mind, never mind." I'm so fucking stupid, I'm sorry. - Yeah, it really is great for men and horrible for women. - Well, it's not great for all. I mean, I think usually it's great. It men think it's gonna be great. I think the usually what happens in a marriage that's been established is that the guy thinks it's gonna be awesome. And then he quickly realizes, "Oh, it's so much easier for a woman to just get." If she wanted to, she could fuck a guy. It's good for a certain man. If you can fuck. - I think what usually ends up happening is the guy, well, men can have sex and compartmentalize it, I think, a lot better. - That's what you mean. You mean like they're men are more capable of throwing in. - Men are more capable of throwing in. - But then when a woman, and this is what I find in most open relationships, the woman resists, and then she's fine like, fuck, okay, I'll do it, because you are, and then they kind of fall in love with someone, because there's not treating them nice. - Yeah. - Because they're not manipulating them. - And but also we fuck someone, and then we're like, I love you. - I love you. - I love you. - And then the guy's like, what's the fuck? - Yeah. - And she's like, well, you fuck 500 people, I fuck one, and I fall in love with them. - And then they figure out a way to, but you know, you cheated by having feelings. - You cheated by having feelings. - Yeah, even though I wanted to fuck around. - I was just using women as receptacles, as just trash cans. - How dare you do eye contact missionaries. (laughing) - I'd be really funny if there were rules on positions. They're like, you can do missionary, but you have to be wearing sunglasses. - Yeah, and you can do the sideways one, but not, yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - Bring back family values. (laughing) - I'm serious, I think you should kill him. - And I know you should kill him, legally, no one on this podcast is telling you to kill anyone. - I think you should slowly poison him back. (laughing) - So no one would ever find out. - I think he sounds like a loser. This is loser behavior. - And he sounds ugly. - This is a loser behavior. He might not be out. We don't know. He could be ugly. - Sounds ugly. - That's besides the point. - The perfect height for a man. (laughing) - Why are we complimenting this guy? I don't understand. (laughing) But, I mean, is there any more on this? Are we done? So, yeah, I mean, this to me feel. - And don't come to this podcast for the-- (laughing) - No, I genuinely sound upset, and I think you should go to seek professional help. - But they're in therapy. - But I think, I get, let's be honest. They're in couples there. - Right, right. She means you're on therapy. - Do a little individual. - A hundred percent. - And then also, I think you should get your, this guy's a shithead. I think you should get your kids a really fun, whimsical, stepdad. Who does your taxes? - Who does your taxes? - Yeah. - Who is a shadow. - Yeah. - Is nice. - You guys can, you guys can fix it, babe. - You can fix it, please. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take my mom back. (laughing) - Please, we miss you. - Yeah, I think get away from this evil manipulative man. - Yeah, I mean, to me, this is like, look, I do think cheating is bad, but it is something you can get over in a relationship, theoretically, but somebody has to really change their, you know. - No, don't give her that. - No, no, I mean, not you. (laughing) - Hey! (laughing) - Maybe she'll tell you what to do. - A sort of different constitution. - I think, I think everybody gets, not everybody, but I think it's possible to get depending on the relationship and depending on personalities and depending on where you are in life. It's definitely possible for one case of infidelity, depending on personalities, for somebody to get over it, right? That's not, you know, some people, it's a hard line, some people it's like, let's figure it out. But when you've already forgiven somebody for a pretty fucked up version of it, like when you're pregnant-- - He called me Kardashian, dude. - Yeah, Lamar, he Lamarter. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That was actually a different guy. - Oh, I'm sorry, Tristan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. I know all the basketball players that have cheated on Chloe Kardashian. From a hoops fan perspective. This is the Venn diagram. Yeah, this is the Venn diagram. You know, with Kardashians, I know them from great, hilarious photo of him in that hookah bar, by the way, Tristan Thompson. - With the girl in his lap? - Yeah, I had a basketball podcast at the time, so I covered it, you know, extensively. - I was a journalist at the time. - Yeah, I was a journalist at the time. - Who was in Lamar smoking like crack? - Lamar was on crack. Yeah, he was, he like had a stroke in a, in a, at the Las Vegas, or not the Vegas, the cat ranch, the like, in wherever Nevada. - Oh, yeah, it's called though. - The brothel, yeah, yeah. Henderson, is that the town? - What does that place call? - I don't know. - The bunny ranch. - The bunny ranch. - The bunny ranch. Yes, which, if you're gonna have a stroke on your favorite drug, and your dick's like by four. - Not bad, not bad, we're gonna go away to go. - I didn't go. - Yeah, he's still around. Shout out to Lamar. - David, honestly, an incredible, a player that was ahead of his time. A lot of players are playing that way now. He was a, he was a four that had guard skills, and he was, he, he, he, Kobe Bryant really got a lot out of him. - Some guards, you know? - Well, yeah, actually, that's actually something we might need to study with. - Yeah, I need guard skills. - Not that kind of guard, they're not like, not like emotional guard, no. - Open his head. (laughing) - All right, I apologize. Anyway, I think like, there's an, I do think, and look, go to Couples Council and go to your own therapist. Have your personal therapist confirm the hunches three comedians have right now? - Right. - But, it re, I would say, if this was a close friend of mine, who you are basically, listen, everybody calls in, you know, I don't know if you're on the page. - What about it for you? - But, subscribe. - Subscribe, 'cause, you know, I'm about to, obviously you could afford it. - Yeah. - Yeah, most therapy. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. You'll be, hopefully you'll be getting a nice alimony payment soon, but. - Pretty soon. - If this was my friend, it was a personal friend of mine, a thousand percent, I'm saying you gotta go. - And also the guy's not gonna change at this point. - No, no, no, no. - He's too old and cemented in his way. - But also, you kind of let him get away with it, right? It's like, he got away with it once, and then he has this weird, and you're, they weren't an open relationship, or they weren't. - She never really clarified one way or another. She said they talked about it. - 'Cause to me, this maybe sounds like, unfortunately, we maybe, she did, it's kind of, he cheated then she cheated. So if that's the case, so there's two different, just to cover all our bases. If it was just, if it was like, you took an open relationship too far, whatever, whoever's fault it was, it doesn't seem like it's gonna work, right? Now if, if you cheated and he didn't, I get why you maybe feel guilt, but I also feel like on some level, this woman wanted to do something bad. - To get out. - So that they, no, no, so that they could be even, so that she could be like, well, now we can be, - I wanna know her star sign. - And eye for an eye. - I wanna know if she's the water sign. - Honestly, up until that open relationship, it's like, okay, and eye for an eye, whatever. But then when he said, you look like shit, that's when you start to slowly poison and kill it. Now that devil's advocate, right? Let's just, so we've given the, we've given what we think. 'Cause like, this seems like there's a lot of fucked up shit going on, it's probably beyond repair, but again, go to your therapist, you do some real social searching, whatever. Devil's advocate, right? He cheats on her, right? He feels with, you know, sex workers, so it's like, maybe in his twisted way, he's like, it's like, you see those Japanese tiktoks where it's like, is cheating with a prostitute? Is it cheating if you look a prostitute? And they're like, no, it's a job, right? And it is. In his way, he's thinking, well, I didn't have an affair. She was pregnant. She, I didn't wanna bother her with my sexual desires. I tried to take care of it. It got, I regret it, whatever, we went to therapy. And then years later, I pitched an open relationship. She told me, no, then behind my back, fucks a guy for two years or whatever. She went, how long was it? 20 months. - 20 months. 20 months. - You know, pretty close. Yeah. And then, and now he's like, but I still love her. Let's get back into therapy. He feels cocked because he literally was, right? Like, in a real way. And like, she had an emotional affair and she was seeing this guy. - She were like three seconds away from calling this woman a bitch. - Well, I'm just, I'm just trying to lay it all out. - You made your bed, you bitch. (laughing) Hold on, Red Pill, Sula. Let me finish and then you can take over. - Well, maybe I could figure out the math on how to make this guy sound awesome. - No, I'm just, I'm just saying, like, I'm just giving the two sides here. This is the only way I could, this is what we could be missing potentially, is what I'm saying. And then he feels cocked. He's also maybe like the, he's the kind of guy who can't really say what he feels emotionally. And that's not an excuse. And maybe this is just his like, 'cause some people say they can, maybe he unlike her can't get over the cheating. And so now he's being passive aggressive about it. And he's like, oh, you looked better. You know, he's just lashing out this way. - Also, I will say, you do start to judge it up when you have a crush. - So she probably was. - By the way, he's at home. Like, yeah. - Why is she gonna look good for her ugly, weird, dementia little husband who's dying actively from poison? - I know. - You know what I mean? - The only in your dreams is this man dying from poison. - Like, why would she be hitting sole cycle? - Well, I guess the argue would be because they're in a loving relationship and you wanna look better for your partner. - Yeah, they're not, they're not, they're not. But that's, I'm just trying to lay it out here. Do you wanna take a fully red pill, red pill take or not? - Not really. - Yeah. - And there's just really no scenario where, like, even if she technically cheated or whatever, he's just a bad guy. - Well, we haven't aired his song to the show, right? - And that's exactly the thing. - But I know you're saying, like, yes. Maybe on the technicality, she did cheat or something. - I mean, she did cheat, she said herself. - But once you're facing a relationship off technicalities, you know it's, you're in a bad zone, you're in a bad zone. - That's the thing. No matter which of the two scenarios it is, it doesn't seem like it's gonna work. - It doesn't sound good. - Even if the very least, like you're not keeping up with yourself in your relationship, means you just don't fucking care. - Yeah, and let alone, we hear how her house, she sounds. - Yeah, you sound horrible. - She's fucking sad, she sounds sad. - So, I don't know, dog, we, you know, we can lay it all out, it doesn't seem good. Again, do some soul searching, confirm these hunches with the mental health professional that's just yours, not your couple's therapist, and go from there. But, you know, good luck. - The part you no matter what. - Yeah. - I'm gonna do that. - I think girls are like, you have to break up with the bits of YouTube, but the part you no matter what. - No matter what, whatever you do, I support you. - We're still getting drinks on Friday, okay. - Wow, that was very serious in a way I wasn't expecting. - That's how this show goes. - We make fun of them a little bit, and then we give some real wisdom. - That's so hard. - Bring the temperature down a little here. Okay, what else we got, Elbe? - Hey, Tommy, baby, help us, the steam guests. I think I'm kind of sitting on this, - The steam. - I don't think so much a question, but I guess I want to give you a opinion on this. So, I'm an advocate, like girl, like action figures, statues, things like that. - I like that. - I like that. - I think I'm very mad now. - Kind of found the wrong card, you know. - Fine. - Stone. - Found a pond, you know, find all this stuff. I like to save money, you know, things about the future, meaning not so much, but I'm on board with this, and we do pretty good. We're not like living paycheck to paycheck or anything. We're pretty good with our finances. But I've managed to. - I want to get into $1,000 Grogu, baby Yoda. - But I'm done, I need braces. - What do you think I should do? - Sort of hide money from her without her realizing, which I used to buy. Said collectible, since like on the day she's working, when I'm at the house before her. - Polarious. - And I'm able to achieve like my collectibles without her knowing. And since I have so much stuff as it is, she doesn't really realize if I get something new. - So you're lying to your wife. - You're hurting, figurines. - Yeah. - Pay attention to my collection. - So you're damaging the trust in your marriage to acquire Dragon Ball Z figurines, okay? - Which I get. - Yeah, yeah, okay. We're just, let's just establish that. Keep going. - Is it the bad that I'm hiding money from her? - Yeah. - I get on this stuff. Because when I compare it to what my dad used to do with my money, my dad cheated. - I was like, I can't be like. - Well, my dad's tapping me. (laughing) - He's gonna compare it to Hitler killing all those Jews. (laughing) - That's not happening. (laughing) - Dude, that's hilarious to be like, compare to my dad. - My dad and I barely hit my wife. (laughing) - Only when she looks through my figurines. - Only when she takes something out of the packaging and does decreasing its value. (laughing) - It's the bad that I'm hiding money from her and spending it on this stuff. Because when I compare it to what my dad used to do and he would hide money from my mom and throw out like, "Mitch this and stuff," you know? - Right, so it's a pattern. - I feel like I'm not doing bad. - So what is this? - Compared to him, you're not. - I'd like to get your opinion on this. - Thank you. - Well, this is kind of like how, you know, even like a fucking Chihuahua used to be a wolf. - You know what I mean, your dad, his dad just hit the money. It's like, yes, you have been, the viciousness has been bred out of you. Although Chihuahua is maybe a cocked poodle or whatever the fuck, just some white fluffy dog. I don't fucking know. What's one of those? - I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I don't. - I didn't grow up with money, so I don't know these small dogs are. - Yeah, me. - That's true. So your opinions don't consider dogs pets. They all live outside. I actually am the same way. But basically what I'm saying is, you've bred out the viciousness from these traits. - Yeah. - Like you're not, but you're still being dishonest to your wife. And it's like, look, you're hiding it because she wouldn't want this to happen. Like you're just doing something. - Wait, where is he getting this money from? - He's just sucking away a little bit of his own personal feelings. - Perfect, you're giving off short accounts. - It's giving autism. I mean, it sounds like he has autism, right? - Or, yeah, he's just a, he's just, he's calling into this podcast. (all laughing) - I, yeah, I think. - There's something, there's something super interesting about the phrase he keeps repeating, hiding money. Which I've never heard it like, that's just something. - It sounds like he's like a few dollars in putting it under his mattress and being like, "When she's not home." - Well, this is clear. You know why, Elders? It's probably because this, and even because he's thinking of it in terms of his father's, father probably literally hid money. - Yeah. - Like under the fucking mat. Like how many foreigners do you know? My, you know what I mean? Like my parents had fucking money in like a, you know, fucking sock drawer and shit like that. I'm sure your parents had like a little rainy day cat. That's some real like, foreign or shit. I, and he clearly can only think of his relationship to his wife through the paradigm of his parents. So I think that's why he's repeating that phrase, right? - Yeah. - It's like so smart. - It's like crazy. - I'm not that. I'm really not that smart. - No, I think about you is that you're absolutely so cute and smart when you do this part. (all laughing) And you're like so like poisoned. (all laughing) - And you're gonna go shit. (all laughing) - Genuine advice. You're like throwing wood, look at this. - No, no, no. - Through the lens of a con. - That's the thing. I know how to maybe sound. I'm just good at talking. So my dumb ideas I can package them. But I just think, I think that like you got to free yourself of that. Just 'cause you're dead, you're not as big. Just 'cause you're a minor piece of shit compared to your dad. Doesn't mean you're not being a piece of shit. Like would you be mad if your wife was like, taking, hiding away? If you agreed to share all your stuff. And she was buying peptides. - Buying, but yeah, buying an AD. - He's like, she looks amazing, huh? - Yeah. - She looks amazing. - Yeah, you're just lying. It's the truth. - And having figurines is embarrassing. - It is embarrassing. - At least her dad was cool and was spending it all. - Right, he's getting pussy. - He's getting pussy. - Your head sounds fucking cool. (all laughing) - My type of guy. - I would rather if I found out my boyfriend was hiding money, I'd go, please tell me you're spending it on prostitutes. (all laughing) - Please tell me you're spending it on prostitutes. - Please tell me it was on prostitutes. - And then I open the closet, I'm like, I'm actually entering a go-kart derby and I'm using it. I'm using it to make a more ero dynamic. - It's just a bunch of plastic yoke-eye and a. - And a katana. - Yeah, ooh, not bad. - Yeah, pretty cool. - So look, dude, I just think two things are here. Two things are going on here. A is the like, clearly you're thinking of everything through the way your parents relationship was, which is how everybody starts, right? That's the kind of the, you're talking about Freud, that's kind of the basis of psychology, especially our little armchair psychology we're doing here. But also your embarrassed of your fucking little hobby. - It's what it is. - And I would say, don't be embarrassed. That's the thing, you gotta free yourself of the embarrassment. Look, you're a fucking grown man, you're in a nice marriage. You're not gonna, as much as we do think your dad is cooler, it's better to not be cool when you're like 50 and married. - You're a good guy. You wanna be a good guy, you wanna be a good dad, you wanna be a good husband. - We don't know. - It's a good guy. - I assume he is, he's a little. - At the end of the last thing in the voicemail, he's like, I'm also beating my wife. (laughing) - With my figure. (laughing) - So yeah, dude, I think you have to free yourself of your shame for your little hobby, it's fine. It's fine to, you know, it actually is, the reality is in something I am struggling with, is like, there is a moment in someone's life where it is not cool to get pussy as a man. Like when you're like, when you're like 45th, how many fucking pathetic old comedians do we know? - Scary, it's actually-- - Maybe some of them are, maybe there's some of the DMs you're talking about. (laughing) But like when you're like a 50 year old guy with fucking like, veneers and plugs and trying to fuck a 22 year old, that's sad, right? It actually, being a dork who provides for his family and like doesn't do anything fucked up, that's good, that actually is what being a good guy is, that is cooler in the grand sense. - And then listen, yeah, Steph. - At that town? - If you should indeed drug addicts. - Just 'cause your dad was one. Doesn't mean you have to recreate the cycle. - Cycles and sadderings just stop being forced into open relationships at gunpoint. By guys that probably weren't that good to begin with if we're being honest. - I don't know, I'm just guessing, I don't know the-- (laughing) I don't know these guys, I'm just calling it an educated hunch, but so you just have to just stop by your wife and just be like, and just look at this as any other hobby and just look at this as any other budgeting thing. - Be a dork. - Yeah. - Being a dork is cute and snackable and fun. - Shame is a low frequency emotion. - Okay, you heard it. - I've heard of, it's so high frequency is good. - High frequency is good. - Vibration, high vibration. - You wanna be vibrating. - You wanna be vibrating high. And then you manifest that you're at the same vibration as manifesting vibration. - Interesting. Oh, slow. - It's magical. - So if you're not at the right vibration, you're attracting more battle. Well, 'cause you attract what you are. So if you're shameful, you're gonna attract shameful situations. embarrassment, shame, jealousy, that's it, you want to be happy and then good to happen you are what you see. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Okay. Interesting, interesting. I also love a person with figurines. My mom is also a figurine person. I love a, I love a little fucking weirdo, like not Star Wars, but Star Trek. Star Trek, really? Yeah. Mom, your mom was a nerd. My mom's total nerd. Cool. I'm also a total nerd. I like, I like someone who has a little thing and like it has to stay in the box because it's, you know, like the blonde extensions for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's fun. I think being a dork is cool. Tell people about that more. I think it would make you more likeable. What's me saying? I have perfect mental health, not likeable. Are we the most unlikable person? I think not. I thought everyone liked us, but I'm having a real real hard time. You're here dumbasses. I like you, but it is, that's very endearing actually that you're in the dorky shit. I like fantasy. I like creatures. I like magic. Yeah. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. That's cool. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. Yeah. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. Yeah. I think that's cool. I think that's cool. No, we went to the Renaissance fair. No, but I do think we are both right. We're like, yes, that is, if you really wanted to, I suppose you could, I mean, it's just a matter of your. Also, your psychology and all this other shit, whatever. But yeah, that's why I said in the beginning, it's either great because he's going to want to lock it down or it's bad in that he has. Maybe he's an air sign. You know, that could be a real problem. I just have to talk to them in the ways they understand. We're going to. We're going to, we're going to. We're going to. - Oh, what's your name? - Air. - Air? - Oh, good. - If you ask him and he starts talking about what sign he is, that's a pretty bad sign. - Oh, yeah. - He's ran, he's ran, he's ran, he's ran, he's ran, he's ran. - Saturday, 6 AM. - Then yeah, he is. She's not going good. - I think as someone who is rushed into so many things in this life in terms of men, I think take your time. - Take your time. - Take your time. - He's actually this is the best part. It only gets worse after this. - Oh, that's not true. - But-- - Hopefully not. I mean, as of now for you-- - Why do you just, I just think when you're like falling for someone, you're like, what is it? - Of course. - The first month when you're kind of figuring it out as long. - Yeah, and you're being loved by-- - And you're being loved by-- - Ooh. - Love, we're getting loved by-- I love you, I love by-- - I don't understand why that's bad. - I never understood it. - I love by-- - Yep, yep. - Feels good. - Every fucking time. - If you're watching this, we want to be loved by-- - Yeah. - Please, please. - Yeah, I think take your time, you're in Esquela, you're learning, you know, like-- - Well, but you, okay, so you've given this woman Contra Dictory advice. You said either you will know the moment you see them. - Well, yeah. - And now it's take your fucking time. There's gotta be, so let's give her some concrete advice of like, so I know you mean though, where you're like, this is somebody that you know on a first date, where this person has the prospect of becoming a boy. - If they qualify-- - Potential. - For potential boyfriend. - Potential boyfriend. - But I also wanna know what she's really asking, 'cause if she's asking, it feels like she really likes him, and I'm curious of what she's actually asking is, he hasn't stated that he wants to really ship you out. How long is it appropriate for me to wait for the guy to bring it up, right? - Right. - Because this feels like a conundrum every woman is in all the time, which is you mean a guy, the woman kind of knows quicker than the guy's gonna try to stay single as long as possible. How long do you wait for the guy to-- - Right, right. - And that's like, questions that have been asked by Aristotle and me today at brunch. - So Aristotleina. - Aristotleina me. So I don't know, and also let me know if you've figured out. - I'm gonna put a time on it, two months. - Two months, and then what? She has the conversation-- - And you have a conversation at two months. - If he doesn't know by two months. - Active dating, after two months, you could be like, so what's going on here? - And what are you seeing each other once a week, or what are we talking about in two months? - Is it like a real age? - You're living together by that point already. - At that point, I'm like filing for divorce. - Yeah. (laughing) - Gary dates a guy that moves in immediately. - That's awesome. - I like that, that's-- - When it works, it works. - So never? (laughing) - Hey, I'm dating a guy who was once in jail. (laughing) - Did we ever find that if he's team? - He said, jail, Colin. - Colin, nice. - That's the right one. - Right answer. - Why? - Right answer. - Right answer. - And he asked why? - Yeah. - No reason. - That's what I said. - Oh, jail's not as bad as prison. - Yeah. - Oh, she's not a bag, he's fine. I mean-- - No, he's a totally bad person. - Prison's fine. Our fucking system is a fucking nightmare. Our criminal justice system is a nightmare. - I would date anyone, did jail or prison. - Well, I don't want to go that far. - Running on what you did. - Yeah. But I do think we can offer two, the two perspectives on this issue actually. And yeah, I think you're probably on the money where it's like, I would say even a little faster than that if we're being honest. - Really? - Really? - As a man, you think that? - You know, as a man who's like, 'cause two months, basically it's like, I do think there is something fucked up about like, you know, again, this depends on the psychology of the guy, because some people see it as like, oh, I don't, until I have to be in a relationship, I'm not going to, right? Which is like, you know, it's a childish way of thinking. It's like an immature way of being like, ooh, let's see how long, how much, even though I like this girl, I could fuck a couple more girls and it's not cheating. Like, I want to be able to do this on a technicality. And I would say the longer that goes on, the harder it is to then start a real relationship. In my experience, I think that- - More damage gets done. - I would say I have been given too long a leash many times and have fucked up the relationship as a result. - Right. - I'm just, I'm thinking directly about me right now where it's like, I would like to actually be forced to think about. - But would you accept a woman after a month being like, so what are we, or would you be like, oh. - Well, it depends, right? It's a month, how many times have we seen each other? - You don't mean- - Two times a week, I'd say. - Two times a week. I mean, you're talking about eight hangouts. - I just ate it someone for six months and was like, oh, this is how it's supposed to be. You're supposed to take a long time to figure out. - I think we all just live in New York and are in show business and we have warped minds. And that's what I'm coming around to, 'cause I'm trying to fix, I'm trying not to be a 38-year-old who behaves this way against everything in my DNA. - So if you want a girlfriend and you're dating a girl, so you're already open to the idea of having a girlfriend. - Well, now you're bringing in something else. Now you're bringing up traffic light theory, right? - Let's traffic light theory. - Which is that when a man doesn't want to be in a relationship, the best girls can pass and buy and he won't fold. But a man who goes into dating, wanting to be in a relationship, pretty much the first girl he's down. It's called the taxi life. - We're in an operate opposite, like, well us. But it's not like we're ever looking to be in a relationship. We just meet a person, we're like, oh, I like them, I'll be in a relationship with them. - Yeah, I do think that there's a little bit of that. Like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I do think that probably does make sense. Like if for me personally, it's like, I don't know. I just haven't been in a relationship because I've unfortunately, I have put my career above everything too much and I'm trying to stop doing that. - Right. - But I would say, yeah, if I'm seeing somebody, it's like, I like when somebody has that conversation because then it's like, listen, then we can just be on the same page, right? And by the way, I do, I am very open now. I'm like, listen, I just don't. I tell, if I'm seeing somebody, I'm like, there's just no way right now in my life I will do this and I totally understand if you don't want to, you know, see me a second time, or whatever the fuck it is, right? Like, or even say, if I, I mean, I'm barely going, if I ever go on dates, barely, but it's like, I'm just, I'll just say that. I'm like, this is clearly where I'm at and I've worked on just communicating that instead of just being like, how long will she let me get away? - Right. - Yeah. Cause you don't want to set the relationship up in the context of him feeling like he's getting away with something until you force him in a very traditional gender roles nagging way up to a lot of that. - I'm just, I'm just realizing a lot. - Yeah. - I'm just having a meltdown. - There was sort of a physical reaction. - Yeah, sorry. But that's my perspective as somebody who has been a piece of shit in the past, right? Who's been like just who, and who, and you know, I'm, I don't want to, I'm, I'm stopping that behavior, but it was like a thing of like, first you just like, see how long it'll go. And then I would get of like, when I had the conversation, I'd be like, fuck no, I don't want to do this. And then I realized, oh, wait, I actually really liked it. Like, I have to, I have some real hangups with intimacy and like, what, I mean, you, the bad family stuff, I think does make for me, and not bad. I mean, you know, my mom's an angel, my dad, you know, a flawed individual, but he did his best, whatever. But to me, what I learned growing up is like, love is a burden, you know what I mean? Like, my loved ones were the ones that like, I was taught obligate, my dad would complain about having to come to America because of us, you know what I mean? And then my mom, who's great, I saw her being overworked by, like, she was the one who loved my dad, but she did everything to keep. So like, and nobody I grew up with, none of their parents were in good relationships, right? Like, almost nobody, not nobody. Literally the one shining example I had, the fun, like, one of the greatest guys of all time got brain cancer, and it was like, God was beat. Like, literally, what I told everyone I had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the most fucked up shit. So, to me, when I was in my 20s and maybe, yeah. Through my, my 20s and maybe even early 30s. That would trigger this, this thing to me of like, oh, fuck, now I have to be, now I have to be, but what, this is obligation, which of course is crazy. You suffocated. Exactly, which of course is insane. And if you fight through that, then you get the only, like, relationship I had that ever worked even for long term. I had that feeling, I fought through it. And we had like a good year and a half, but too much damage had been done during the leash era, you know what I mean? So, and then mellant and also self sabotage, which is crazy, which women don't really do as much as men. Totally. Like, my don't be like, this feels good and I'm scared that it's going to actually work out so I'm going to like, blow it up. 100%. Yeah. It's crazy. And I'm done. I don't do that. And so anyway, that, my perspective is a guy who is trying to cure these ills that have historically plagued me. That's what I would say is that it's okay to have this conversation. And by the way, it's okay to date monogamously and not seriously, right? That's the only thing I was going to say. Like, just date someone and just, like, don't date around and it doesn't work. It doesn't work. But also have that conversation be like, hey, it's not, I don't want, like, I like you. Like, I'm not interested in dating other people. Would you like to be exclusive, you know, and then go from there. But there's, I do think, and part of my hang up, too, was thinking that just saying somebody's my girlfriend means that we're married, which I know you can date somebody for a month. And I have a girlfriend for a month and it's not a big deal. I break up. You could break up. Yeah, you could break up. You can always break up. So I do think sooner rather than later is generally pretty good. I think anywhere between depending on the, you know, potency of how much you're hanging out, it's also like a one month where you see each other three times a week is a lot different than one month where you see each other three times total, right? Right. I think ultimately, like, just enjoy the pace. just enjoy the pace. - But she does feel like she already has feelings for this guy? - Or she's like, should I make him my boyfriend? - Sure. - Make sure it's been this amount of time. Like, should I be having this conversation? Or are you just sort of like, - I think it's so annoying also that the woman always does it. Like, I've never once had a guy be like, "So what are we?" - Right, right. - You have? - Yeah. - Not me not realizing that you're gonna have to say that I can't say. - Maybe a few people, is it happening to you more than me? - It's not happening at all, really, yeah. - See, see what would happen if you put a little light in those eyes? (laughing) - Oh my God! - That happens though, it does happen. - Okay, it's okay. - You really should try dating a different type of guy. - Yeah, maybe you got to break a pattern. - I need this. (laughing) - A guy with collectible figurines. - Yeah. - You, that's what you really actually need. - A nerd. - Five-four nerd. (laughing) - A tiny little nerd. - A tiny little nerd. - He's hiding money from you. - Yeah. - Well, that means he has money. - Here we go. - That's already a step up for me. - There we go. (laughing) - So yeah, good luck. (laughing) - Seriously bitch, good luck. - Good luck, baby girl. You got some fun for us to go on. And by the way, do you have anything you got? You guys wanna plug here? We don't know when this comes, probably comes out. - You could follow us on Instagram. - We're really, we're starting a podcast. - We're starting a podcast together with on-deer media. - Do you have a date? - No. - No. - In the next month. - Okay, well let us know actually we might be able to coordinate when it comes out. - Oh, that would be nice. It's called Alvo if you go. - Yep. - Oh, that's a good title. - It's the two of us, Chad. - Love it. - And, and we will also be releasing a travel series that goes along with that. - That we shot in the UK. - That's awesome. - We shot like a, how many episodes is it? Is it eight? - Eight. - We shot at eight episodes. - Well, it's the nebordane, but you get no information. - Yeah, we're raging horse. - We don't eat. - We don't eat at all. - We're pretty cool. - And we're alive. - That's what. - Being alive is important. So check that out. Check those out. - And then we're both on tour. Come see us on tour. And you can find us on social media. - Go see the gals on tour. All right, great. I'll just play us a fun one to go out on a little buddy. - Listen, Savi, Elder's beautiful guest. I'm sorry. I'd left another boyfriend out, ignore that one. We're gonna use this one as our main going for it. I just put it out. It was just real quick. - Okay, just, you don't have to do that, guys. People do that a lot. Like, sorry, just left the voicemail. The first one wasn't good. We don't give a fuck. - Yeah, we never knew that. - Every voicemail is a new beginning. - Elder's, no one knows. - Yes. You think Elder's goes through all the fucking voicemails? We probably have such incredible calls that we don't get through, 'cause the only time Elder's ever comes through the voicemails is 20 minutes before an episode. - I go through them. Sometimes I'll see like. - I'm like, all right, I do do do do my job. - Sometimes I'll see five in a row from the same number. I'm only listening to the last one. - Yeah, I like it. - So just keep that in mind. - Just housekeeping. Don't fucking do this going forward, 'cause now we just lost nine seconds with the explanation. - And it also creates like a bad felt, like you're starting with just someone just trusting you. - Low frequency, it's low frequency behavior. (laughing) - You're like, whoever's hearing this is automatically thinking, oh, this guy's stupid. He's gonna be a waste of time. This person can't express themselves. But if you're calling back to express yourself correctly, this is your chance for a new start. And no one has to know. - No one has to know. Go ahead, eldest. - I just wanna ask, is it okay to deny women coming to the boys' polka night? Here is a situation. We've got a boys' polka night. It happens a couple times a year, first few times. It was just the boys. It was never explicitly stated that wives and girlfriends were not allowed. But my buddy, he's got a wife. She really likes polka. She appeared at the last polka night when he was hosting. But for this-- - You made her own home. We've had a different group. - You mean she was cooked all the house? - She cooked all the house. (laughing) - Keep going, eldest. - This upcoming one, we've got a different bro who was hosting the polka night. And I just need to know, can he deny-- - No. - House role. - My buddy bringing his wife to the polka night, if it was never explicitly stated, house roles. - That it should be boys only. Basically, I was talking to the guy and what we decided was that we cannot deny her to this one, 'cause they would be unexpected. But for all polka night moving forward, we would just-- - You're gonna wish issue a memorandum with polka night, all polka night's going forward. - And now it's been announced here. - Attention, one woman we don't want to hang out with. - Melissa, you can no longer come to the polka. - As if this is just one woman. - It's just one girl. - Girl wants to come. - Dude, I do understand the frustration in that, like, look, sometimes you just want to be with a boy. - You want to have a dumb ass evening with just the fellows, whatever. - Also, the inverse of that is like one of-- - It's when your a girl's night and a girl brings her boyfriend. You're like, what the fuck? - When I've been dating someone, I accidentally end up in a hang that like, it wasn't explicitly a girl, but it's like, it just so happened that I, by poor planning, ended up being the only guy there. Nobody's, I'm not happy. - No one's happy. - And if you find yourself in that position, here's what you do. Be charming for 20 minutes, ask everybody how they're doing and then be like, ah, something came up, gotta go. And buy a round of drinks and get the fuck out of there, right? - Yes, buy a round of drinks and drink. - Yeah, cool. - That's what you gotta do. I get where you're coming from because sometimes you just want a thing. But this girl already came. She, by the way, she likes poker. She's not like a poser. - Which means she knows how to play, she's good. - She's not like, she's not like a pick me. She's like, she really likes poker. Like this, so I say, I think what you wanna do here is, you have to rebrand. Poker has been, poker has been, unfortunately for you, the Supreme Court has ruled and poker has now opened, has been open to women. - We lost a lot of our stuff. - There's no point the two's face back in the two. - We lost Rookie Wade, but we can go to poker. (laughing) - Right, right, right, right. That's actually true. Actually, we did, I guess we over turned Rookie Wade. Maybe you can't have men's, just the boys of poker night. But, I think for this social circle, the precedent has been set, that poker night is going, so I would even say, open it up a little more, right? - Bring your tape, every trace line. (laughing) - Yeah, yes, gender-wise, open up, make it fluid. I would say now, poker night could be a little more of a part, 'cause you'll host poker games and it's like, it's couples usually, right? There's a bros. - It's usually bros, but, I don't know what it's like. I think we have to make a second secret poker game for boys. - Well, that's what I was going to say. What you have to do is-- - And underground to do this. - What you have to do is-- - We have to do this game. - Yes, exactly. This has become an open game, right? - Yeah. - Now you need this executive game from the sopranos, right? Now you need the, but what you do now, you have to rebrand, 'cause poker has been lost as the boys activity. You say it's only happens twice a month, you know, twice a year, they said. This is clearly not about poker. This is about the fellas hanging out. So now you need to rebrand and have like, fellas night or like a game, or put it around a sports thing. - Think about things that women confirmed don't want to do. - Right. Say you're gonna have a fucking Steven Segold movie marathon, right? You know what I'm saying? - Yeah. - But I don't know this. Like if we want to hang out, like, you know, we just, me, Eldison, me, Eldison, his lovely wife, had a great Saturday in industry city. We were hanging out, like, we have no problem, like, you know, all, me, all our friend group, like, we'll hang out in whatever configuration, but there's nights where if your wife came to my apartment, where we're fucking watching, fucking Hong Kong action movies, getting hides, like she doesn't want to fucking be there. So like, there's nothing wrong with occasionally having some, you know, silo activity, but I do think hooker night you have now cannot be that. So just say, like, you know, we're gonna go, it just fell as night or whatever the whole, however you want to say it. - Applebees. - Yeah, Applebees dollar leaves. - Oh, apps, app. Same old app, sampler, app app, sampler. - Yeah, yeah, yep. - Yeah, I think you could just make hooker night sort of a sexy situation now. - 'Cause you know night game. - 'Cause you know night. - You're kinda hot. - Yeah. - Everyone has to bring a date. It's kind of like dinner for schmucks, but it's just hot girls. - And also everyone fucks this guy's wife. - 'Cause that one dinner for schmucks is like at all, by the way. What do you mean by that? You mean like, you're just a, instead of bring a weird guy, you have to bring a hot woman. - You have a plus one. - You just mean, yeah, having a date. (laughing) - And two for schmucks, that movie about plus one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's frame of reference for dinner for schmucks, it's just a dinner for schmucks situation is inviting someone somewhere. - There's like so much to an event. (laughing) - Do you sort of a dinner for schmucks? - Incredible. - And invite a friend. - But with hot girls. - I think Poker Night should be a gangbang. - I think they should wanna train on his wife. - I think they should run train on your wife. - Or you know what, if you really wanna freak around and be like, you and your boys got to suck each other off in front of her. You'd be like, this is what happens at Poker Night. - Yeah, that's when we're being a little gay. - Then she'll get out of there. - I also do think you could have a reasonable conversation with this wife and be like, Melissa, I'm assuming her name is Melissa. - I also was thinking Melissa to be like that up. - I recently said it. - Okay, that's what I was. [BLANK_AUDIO] - You said Alyssa. - Alyssa. - Alyssa. - Oh, okay. - Alyssa, we kind of want to have a boy tonight. - Yeah, I actually would disagree with you. I think if it's just one woman, you can kick her out. - That to me seems more, if it was a few women, it feels like one woman seems more harsh. - But why is, like already, it's like girl, why are you at the boy's poker tonight? - 'Cause she likes poker, go start a girl's poker tonight. - Yeah. - What does she hate women? - Yeah, oh good boy. She's a, she's a, she's a, she's a, - Accuser of having internalized misogyny. - Yeah, right. You're not being a girl's girl. You're not being a girl's girl at the party? - Yeah, you're trying to fuck your husband's friends. - I don't know. - And why are you wearing that? - Why'd you show up in that? (laughing) - Okay, I mean, let's do two different, I guess I just think, like, I'm putting myself in a position where it's all my guy friends, and one of their wives loves poker. And I like this person, right? Like, I wouldn't wanna hurt my friends, 'cause she's my friend too. - Yeah. - And she's shown that she really likes it. I wouldn't wanna hurt her feelings and be like, you can't come anymore, 'cause it's just, 'cause like, what we're trying to get out of it can be achieved in a non-poker way. - Right. - It can be achieved by just going out to a bar and getting drinks together. It can be achieved by watching a movie together and getting high. Like, you just wanna have locker room, you just wanna feel like you're in the locker room again, right? And you don't need to play poker to do that. And if one of my friends real, who happens to be a girl really likes, you know, the activity we're doing, it's like, I wouldn't wanna be fucking mean to her. That's how I see it. - It's so much better. - It's so nice. - It's so crazy. - I'm really overwhelmed. - Like, overcome that. - Yeah, yeah. - But we're talking about my real friends, right? Like, 'cause I only hang out, like the people I actually see are like, my closest friends and their significant friends. - So what if you guys had a boy's poker night and me and Gabby wanted to come? - That's a little different, because it's like, not like-- - I'm not anymore. - No, no, no, no, first of all, you could come to put, like if we were having a program, you're 100% invited. I don't see poker as gendered, to be honest with you. But if we were having like a, if me and my five best male friends, we're like, we're gonna fucking get high, get Karim barbecue and go to the movies and you're like, we wanna come? I'd be like, - No. - Like, we can hang out at a different time. It's not about poker night. It's about the sanctity of, these guys didn't make clear that this was about the fellas hanging out. They just said we're having a poker night. - I've kind of known, I think. Like, read the room a little bit. - You know whose fault it is. - It's the husband's fault. - Her husband's fault. - He opened the floodgate. - And listen, you can punish him. He needs to be sanctioned within your friend group for doing this, for ruining poker night with estrogen. - It's actually so true in that she, he should have been like, it's the boy's night. - Yeah. - Can you go have a girl's night with your friends? - Right. And actually, if you think he's capable of personally talking to her and ironing this out. - He can do it. - He can do it. - I don't think he can because he let her do it. - He's cocked. - He's cocked. - Let's be honest, this guy's cocked, right? Or maybe he's just not a misogynist. And he wants us, and he enjoys playing poker with his wife. - But you know what I'm saying? You can play it on this friend's life. - Yeah. - He would just love his wife. - He'd be like, babe, they all said you could. - Yeah. - No. - This guy's clearly a cop. (laughing) - He loves his wife and wants to spend more time with her throughout their busy schedule. My best friend has a girl's book club, and they live in Raleigh. And she said, to the husband, stay up great town. Stay upstairs, do not come downstairs. - No, what's written in his right mind would want to enter a woman's face like that. - Not true. He wanted to be a part of it so bad. He sat on the steps and listened. - So this guy's cocked. - He slowly, he slowly just walked into the living room. - Right. - So it's like, the other person wants to be involved if they're there, you know? - Maybe, maybe not. - 'Cause you're just upstairs, knowing his gossiping. - If I was dating somebody and there's a fucking book club going on downstairs, I'm playing Xbox upstairs. Like, I'm not coming down. It just depends on your personality. Yeah, maybe loves, actually, I love, actually, I know. - You love Tiki. - I imagine all the girls are gossiping. - I'm actually lying. I actually love when it's just me and girls, actually. That's one of my favorite types of hangouts. But anyway. - Being out with us. - Yeah, what are we doing? - Gossiping. - Gossiping. - Doing peptides? - Poker, peptide. - Poker, peptide. Poker, not Poker, peptide. - Not Poker, I'm peptide. - We'll sum for everybody. - Wait, I should throw that. - No, I'm, let me be clear. I'm not taking any of your fucking little league peptides. - All right, to each his own. - I'm, I'm going to a doctor. - I have a doctor's number. - Yeah. - So yeah, I guess that's, that's how I see the whole thing. And, okay, let's say you really like her. You don't want to hurt her feelings. Let's say you don't like her telling her to her face. Now creates animosity within the group and, and you escalate. So I just think to be safe, re-channel the bros-only energy into something that it is established from the very beginning is for the bros-only. That's, that's how it handled it personally. - I think it should be golf. - Golf. - I know some women like to play golf. - I fucking hate golf, though. - But. - But I know you mean, yes, there's other ways to do it. Golf. Like the lake, it's like smoky and dark, it's poker, you know. - Here's the, you can lie to your wives about what you're doing. You could be like, oh, we're, we're watching the football game and then have a fucking poker night. - That's what I'm saying. - You need a secondary poker night. - You need a fake poker night. - You need a show. - You need a show. - You need a show. - You need a show. - You need a show. This woman. Pretend that it's a poker night. - A bunch of extras that look, a bunch of guys that kind of look like them are playing with her. - Yes. Like the fuck out of this woman. - A screen falls. They're playing with her. - Yeah. It's like what's going on. - That's really funny. She's playing poker with like holograms of them. - Yeah. - One point you're like, whew, whew, whew, whew. - Yeah, fuck. - Yeah. Yeah. Mate, you're right. I do, I get it, but that's personally how I would handle it if I were in this situation. What do you think, elders? You're a man who both married and has poker nights, so you're, I would like, I would like the, I think it'd be fun if someone's wife or girlfriend was like, oh, I'm gonna come to poker night if she was into it. - Totally. - Does she actually like poker and, you know, she wasn't being a dumb bitch, asking what every hand mean. - I'm like, right. - I don't know, expect that. - You know, it is, it is just a fun new energy and totally. - When it's just guys, it's like, you know, it gets a little autistic in there. Everyone's like, he's getting real quiet. - Right. - And they're like, oil breaks in. Right. - You need the female energy. - Yeah. - She better be showing up in a bikini. - Totally. Or a tits out, that I think. - Or a tits scene to be out. - We haven't figured that out yet. - Something low cut. - Jennifer Tilly playing poker with her tits out, man. That was awesome. - Yeah. I agree with you. I don't think of like poker as gendered mean either. So this is hard to see, but, but, but I think at the same time like. - It's also very possible that she's better at poker than them. - And they're pissed. - I was thinking that as well. - Yeah. - Because if she's really into it and they were just using it as an excuse to not hang out with their wives, it's possible that she's, she's the one who's taking it too seriously. Like, she could be a better player than, or say, you know, we're just maybe. - Who knows? - But anyway. - But anyway. - There's just different ways. I'm sorry to cut you off, go ahead. - Yeah, same time. I don't know. I don't think there's anything wrong with being like, eh, just the guys tonight. - Sure. - That guy does, that doesn't need to talk to his wife. - Yeah. Yeah, you could also be like, hey, yeah, yeah. But it's up to the guy and I don't have faith in him to pull it off. - I know what you mean. - I don't either. - Because we have friends who like will definitely fuck up a hang by not like, and it's actually both different genders to like, like, like, we've definitely had people like come, and it's not just anything other. Sometimes it's just like they bring a weird friend or like, we have people in our lives who just will fuck the vibes up, you know. So. - It is a little bit on the wife. I've, I've been the guy who like fucks up the hang by like bringing his girlfriend before. So like my wife just, you know, she reads it right now, she never, I never have to like be like. - No, you should be dating someone who needs the social situation. - Yeah. But also this girl seems like she fucking loves poker. - I don't know. She really wants to play it. - It's kind of like sad. It's like, you know, anyway, whatever. This is just, to me, I just think they're just, they, maybe we're reading it wrong. It doesn't seem like these guys are fucking poker fanatics. They just didn't want to hang out with the fucking wives. So, but either way, we get, we talked enough fucking figure it out. - The wives need to come up with their own. - Yeah. - Texas hold like, and then they can do it like a, is Texas hold up in poker the same thing? - It's a type of poker. - Yeah. - All right. - Mm-hmm. - Watch out. - I don't know if poker was a genre. - It's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, there's like so many different types of poker. Texas hold them as the one that got like the biggest, like when we, when I was a, probably well, how old were like 13, 14, Texas hold them like exploded. - Yeah. - I mean, I remember coming down to Greek town and play with games. - Yeah, we used to have poker games, some of our buddies in like fourth grade. - Not fourth grade. - Middle school. - Middle school. - Yeah, we started gambling in middle school. I literally had a friend who had a bookie when I was like, when I was, like, and he's now, you gotta dig the gambling and disappeared. - Oh yeah. - And like he resurfaced in Asia gambling. - Okay, this guy's awesome. - He actually is awesome. - I love him. - He was the man. He was a fucking cool dude. - Seven amp. - Did he resurface for you? - Actually, he would be exactly your type. - Real piece of shit. - Please don't date a bookie. - Hey, not a bookie of gambling addict. - Yeah. - Anyway. That's it. That's our advice. That was a good one. There was a lot of meat on that bone. There's not really the, you know, the fun, go, that usually the fun go out when I thought we were, this episode was going to be over 20 minutes ago, but we ended up rolling. - Yeah. - We ended up really dissecting that one. - I like, yeah, I think we, I think we ruled it justly in this case. That's going to do. to do for us, Gals. Thank you so much. This was so fun. - Thank you. - Thank you. - Watch, listening to you, Pod, go see the girls live, come see us live. I assume we're pro, maybe we're about to finish it to her. Who fucking knows, maybe the specials about, we're about to tape the special probably. - Let's talk about it. - There's like five episodes that have already come out where you're like, we just finished the special. - I know, on the, on the fucking Jibuki episode where I'm like, and there was one episode where I was talking about, man, I wish I had a couple, a little more time to work on the special, and I really cursed myself, man, because I got it, I really fucking, I really got what I asked for, but anyway, that's gonna do for us, we'll see you next time, bye. - Bye.