19 Crimes and Counting

(upbeat music) - So we're supposed to start the podcast. - Ready, one, two, three. Patriots, patriots, theytriots, black triots, brown triots, and triple trumpers can do what pumps. Faggah! Welcome to America's Top Dei podcast. Pumps, what have you had it with? - Well, I had a different habit to start the show, but I have successfully had it with my iPhone, which I know I bitch about my iPhone a lot. But I have the unique ability that I have in the last hour, deleted both my ability to call on my iPhone and my ability to text. Those boxes are have disappeared from my phone. I don't know how I did it, I don't know if I'm magic, but I can suck up a wet dream and I have done it with my iPhone and so I've had it. - Wow. - Yeah. - You really did yourself. So you're unable to place a phone call or send a text. - Correct. - Receive what's your plan of action? - Okay, well here is my plan. - My plan is, I'm going to go to the studio and have Seth fix it. - That's smart. - That's my plan. - That's exactly what I would do. - Yeah. - Yeah, because I think it's just like a reinstall situation. - I tried to make my settings, I can't figure it out. Like I really, I'm at a loss. How do I continue to do this all the time? - Yeah. Yeah, it's, have you noticed that they've reorganized, we may have talked about this before, but they've reorganized the text messages and the most recent download. And so then you have like unprogrammed, unknown contacts and it goes to one place and it's not in your main queue. And so I ran into a couple of people and I'm like, I've texted you like four different times and I open it. I'm like, I do not have a text for me, you must not have my number. They pull up the contact. I'm like, no, that is my number. And I'm like, this is so weird, it says delivered and I'm like, it's not in my text. And then I notice that there is an unknown text section that you have to go into. And again, this is a situation where you have people having meetings that they shouldn't be having where they think, okay, let's make the iPhone better. And really what they're doing is just, let's do new things with it. And they do new things with it. And the new things complicate the situation like I can't even discuss the downgrade of the photo album from like two or three dates ago. I just, they've overcomplicated it. And improvements that overcomplicate something that is supposed to be smart are not improvements and I've had it with that. I mean, I've had it too. I think my smartphone makes me feel dumb. And maybe I am dumb, but I can't be the only one that this happens to. I mean, probably with the regularity, yes. But I just, I've had it with the iPhone, had it. - Yeah, yeah, I've had it too. And then you think about the people that are Android users. And I'm telling you, like they have this pride about being an Android user. And I used to kind of tease them, like, oh, you have a green text and I felt like an elitist right using my iPhone. And then Tim Cook made a trophy for Trump and kiss the ring and you know, all the things that are just horrible that we're all living through. And the Android users, I think I owe a big apology too. - I kind of feel the same way. - Yeah, I kind of, and I feel like they were onto something a long time ago. - Yeah, they're a little laugh. - For sure. - Yeah, I think so too. All right, so I've had it with something that's happening to me quite a bit. So when I'm on, when I'm not recording and not reading the news so that I know what we're talking about on our political podcast, I hip news. If I'm on social media, I don't even look at the people on following, I just go to the curated page for me that has a bunch of different things. And I have a combination of tennis instructors doing little instructional videos about how to get more topspin. I have a French bulldog videos. I have a lot of punch the monkey. I have, it's all happy things. And that's why I like to go to that particular page. There's nothing political in it. And so I'll find a really cute, like great looking dog, super photogenic, great smile. And I just think, oh my God, I am in love. And then I'll send the image in our family DM, or send it to one of my sons. And I'm like, this dog is so attractive, so photogenic, you can tell this dog has an incredible personality by the way he's interacting with the camera and its owner. And then one of my sons will respond mom, that's AI. Oh my gosh, they're doing it with dogs? Yes, yes. And it's like just a really cute, like French bulldog or a fluffy French bulldog or something. And I like, God, this is a great looking dog. Like this is, wow, I'm so enamored. And then I find out it's not real. And then there's these videos of like these dogs that like jump into the snow. And then they come back out of the hole and pop their head up. And I was so proud. Like I felt like, God, that dog is fearless. And that dog just jumped in that snow. And then came back up and was like, peek a boon to its owner. So I send that and I'm like, I wish our dogs would do this. And then there's some mom, it's AI. It's just video after video after video. I mean, I knew when they had the French bulldogs doing the high dive competition. Right, we all knew that. I knew that was AI. But now it's just like, there's this whole trend of AI right now where it shows a little child, like a toddler that maybe three or four. And there is a mess on the wall, like maybe a crayon all over the wall. And the kid is facing the wall. And then there's like a golden retriever behind it. And there's a series of these, all different kids, all different golden retrievers, all different acts of domestic terrorism. And when I say domestic terrorism to any young mothers out there, you know that your children domestically terrorize your actual home with markers, crayons, whatever. And so the mom is like, why is the dog, you're in time out. Why is the dog standing there with you? And the kid like adorably goes, because he picked out the color. And the dog is sitting there like this. And so I've sent this to my family. Like, oh my god, this is so cute. AI. And it's like, now this world where we don't really believe anything, like there's a whole conspiracy theory that mentioned Netanyahu's dead, because he's using AI. I know the Trump administration, you know, the remember that speech where Trump is at the Oval, and he had an extra finger and stuff. They're using AI with leaders. And so that's the dangerous aspect of it, but just from a personal aspect of it, I'm falling in love with toddlers, which is a new one. And golden retrievers and cute dogs doing cute things. And it's all fake. And this is just the way this is escalating and accelerating. You can see how problematic all of this technology is going to be for us. Well, and here's the deal. And it's just the ability to distinguish it, like your boys can immediately distinguish it. I can't, like I've sick, Kylie ship that I was serious as a heart attack about. And it's AI. And so figuring out what is AI and what's not, that to me is terrifying because obviously we've seen of late in our political sphere. People are not, I mean, you're not always the best and brightest out there on the internet. So it's like, it's hard and it's getting harder. And you hear all these stories. So I've had it with AI. I couldn't have had it with AI, AI bubble. I mean, it's just like a fucking hat. All of our jobs. You know, everybody's, I mean, you just hear layoff after layoff and it's AI. And it's just like, fucking AI, who needs it? Wasn't some guy saying like a super oligarch saying, oh, I couldn't parent without AI? What the fuck is the same old man? What is wrong with you? It's just, it's gross. So listener on our other podcast, our political podcast, IHip News, I can't tell you how many times it's probably been 10 times. Perhaps it's like, I have an episode. I'll lead it. So we go into it and we get to like the third point in the episode. And she'll say Kylie, play the video and the video goes up. And then like eight seconds into it, Kylie and her, but like, this is AI. I know. It's bad. Stop. Some of those, I have, I am not good at figuring out AI. You are a PhD and not being able to figure out. I should lead that, like I should lead the club of can't figure out AI. I am the president of the Congressional hearing. You can be a congressional hearing with me. You can sit, you can be a congressional hearing. AI is a famous podcaster, pumps. And America's greatest legal mind, even she cannot distinguish between AI and a real video. [BLANK_AUDIO] But I feel somewhat betrayed though, after I have developed a relationship with a K9 or something adorable online. And then I'm told it's fake. And then I feel some sort of betray, like really I just said here and I felt emotion in all of this for something that isn't real. There's, I don't know, there, when this keeps going over a mass, mass, mass scale, I think it's gonna be really damaging to our humanity. - Agreed. - Agreed. - All right, welcome to, I've had it, I'm Jennifer. - I'm Angie, HBIC for Beaver. Haven't said that in a while, just wanna remind everyone, I'm the head AI fraud, not detector, and a beaver. - And the head tech at the Genius Bar at that store. - Can you imagine if you went into the Genius Bar and I was in a hole? - Yeah, I think, yeah. There would be riots at the mall. - Riots. Okay, Kylie, how are you? - I'm good. On AI, Jen, it's getting so much better that it is getting harder. And it's these really mundane clips. It's not, it's not, it's not Trump doing Cirque du Soleil like it was. You know what I mean? Which that would get Angie. Those are the kind of things Angie was getting. - Put it in the back. - We had to, we had to trash can. I have news episodes that we were eight minutes in filming and then Trump doing a triple lads. (laughing) - That's the whole of this. - We need a gold medal, the Olympics, no punks. That didn't happen. - But no, you're right, it's more mundane stuff that seems believable and my kids can detect it. Josh and I cannot. And it's something that's really like earnest and like when Instagram was good, when social media was good, when you saw sweet connections to humanity, connections to creatures, connections to nature, through your phone. And it was like, oh okay, we're all still connected, we're all still out there. And then you fall for it, something mundane, but heartwarming. And then you find out that it's fake. And then I just feel such a betrayal. - Just one last thing on this too, Angie, before she had adopted any fringies, we were all on tour and we were sitting around having lunch. And she was trying to find one she wanted. She wanted this long haired thing. She was, I found the one I want. I've never seen one like it. It's so unique. She shows us and it's a video of like a video game looking dog. - Oh, I can remember that. - It was obvious. - I didn't know I knew that. - Yeah, we were like, Angie, that's not real. It's like what? That's the one I wanted. - Okay, I've got some reviews. This one is five stars from Scotty Titled Spot On. And he says, "Love to see women." I would typically write office MAGA proving me wrong. These intelligent red-state women are the ones who could save this country. And with a bunch of clapping emojis, he says, "Genefer needs to run for office." - That is so nice. - That's so nice. - And you hear that all the time, would you consider it? - No. I don't want to run for office. I don't. There are people that are better at running for office than I would be. And I am interested in the things I'm interested in. In order to run for office, you have to take on a lot of policy and delivering for people is boring. - Right. - And I don't know that I have the bandwidth to mire myself down into the boring policy of some sort of road work improvement and the budgeting thing for it. The politics that we cover is the splashy stuff and I shine and talking about all of that. But the truth of the matter is a lot of governing and politics is really, really boring. And I don't know that I have the depth to do that. And I appreciate everybody thinking that I do, but this is a character defect in me. I think that I would be like, "Cut some boring shit." And what are we talking about today, potholes? (laughs) - What's Marjorie Taylor-Green doing? How can we fuck with her? - I don't know that I appreciate it, I do. But as I play the tape through, I can see myself getting incredibly bored with a lot of the really important things that politicians do that don't make the news, that make our lives better. A lot of bills that have all of this budget policy wonky stuff and I don't think I have the mental capacity for that. So I don't think I'm a good candidate for those reasons. And now that I've said this online, should I ever do a 180 and decide to run again? My opponent can play this exact (laughs) so that I will lose. So I will lose the election. We'll say from the horse's mouth, she thinks improving people's lives is boring in what's no part of it. And I'm like, yeah, I did to kind of say that. I want people's lives improved. I do. Can we just, you know, here's, and here's the thing that's so bad about this. This puts me in bad company. Trump has to have people make the news entertaining for him. We talked about this on a night hip news episode. And of course, could I mire down and geek out on shit? Yes, I absolutely could. I just think there are people at it that are better. I think they're just better, smarter, policy driven people that can do a much better job than me. To be fair, Jennifer, I believe that if you were in office, 'cause I don't like the Trump comparison, if you were in office, you would hire the most expert, expert, wonky. I mean, you would have the most authority on the subject in every meeting and you would listen to them and you would welcome feedback that disagreed with you. That's what I think. I thank you, Pumps. Thank you very much, Pumps. I probably would do that in my interior design business. I always have like the best subcontractors. The, you know, like, let's get the best experts in here to figure out how to handle it. But I appreciate it so nice, but I just don't wanna be a politician. I don't wanna have to go to work at Congress. You know, you know, here's the deal. If I did, Pumps, can I come to work with you today? Yeah. Yeah. I hope you like Johnson and the whole. Should be trolling around the hallways, hanging out in the restroom, hanging out. When we went to the DNC, she was like, I wanna go up to where all the media row is. I wanna see what all the, what all the journalists are doing and what the politicians are doing. She loved it. She wanted all this to keep up. You'd be a good politician too, Pumps. Oh my God. No, although Oklahoma County is looking for me to run as they are kindly. Let's run Pumps. Pumps for State House. Pump it up. If you wanna pump up your life. How about, how great would it be if like your commercial, if you just, it was like, it started pump up the jam and then you just kinda came up the screen. Pump up the jam and then you just blessed it out. Eight counts. Pump it up. And then you could like take a blindfold and be like, justice is blind. And you could do this whole little dance. I think it'd win. I do. (laughs) That's where the artist has to make a statement and be like, we do not want her using so much. Right, so we do not want using our staff. It's embarrassing. I think pump up the jam people. I can't remember who's saying that. I think it'd be all on board with it. Yeah. That was a great song. Now it's gonna be in my head all day. I've been having this random songs are getting into my head and I can't get them out. So you know what I do that's so evil? I tell it to Kylie. She has it too. And she'll sing it just the one catchiest part to send it to me and away from her. Yeah, it's, yeah, that's diabolical. Yeah, 'cause I want to get it out. Pumps, did you ever, I would always go to clubs and when I was younger in college and when pump up the jam came on, it was like, skirt out to the dance floor. Just, here's me just. Slosh in my vodka around on the dance floor. You have to dance with the drink in your hand. And I would do it this way. I dance with the stick too. Yeah, yeah. We have this one hand was a sig and one hand was a cocktail. Those are the just just slosh it around, blow and smoke in everybody's face and you've loved it. Like more carcinogens. More. Little bit of pop now in the second hand smoke. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Yes, I mean, that's the universal popper. I want, I want, I want, here's the thing now. I love to dance. I think it's so fun. I have no musicality and I'm the worst dancer because I can't stay on the beat. And so as much as I love to do it, I'm really, like I'm not self-conscious very often, but dancing, I'm self-conscious because I know I'm bad at it. So can we roll out like TikTok dances now for that I've had a TikTok page? No, I'll do it because I can, I like nobody has to tell me I'm a bad dancer. Like I checkmark. So if we want to just do it to make fun of me, I enjoy that kind of thing. So I'm all in. Okay, Jen, do you want to head up some news stories? Yes, I have some news stories I want to share with everybody. The first one is, and this is about a week or so old, and we have been remiss and reporting on it. As everybody knows, the three of us are die hard. Oklahoma City Thunder, basketball fans, [BLANK_AUDIO] training, champs, reigning MVP, Shae Gilgis Alexander. And so they won the championship. We were all at the game. It was high times, high times in the 405, which is the area code for the OKC. The mayor, David Holt, he was on a permanent high for months on end. We had parades. It was incredible. And so as you know, that when a team wins something, they get an invite to the White House. And so when you are an independent thinker, a free thinker, a Democrat, an independent, progressive, and a red state, your politics gets so diminished because of the electoral college. You never have politicians come to see you and you just kind of have to go with the masses. And so you never hardly ever get a little win ever in your state until this team, this national championship team, Trump invited them to the White House. And they said, and I'm paraphrasing here, go fuck yourself. Actually, they said we have a scheduling conflict with our interpret as, don't fuck yourself. You wanted to go. Totally. You think if Obama's president, they're not going over their ASAP right to drain threes with him. I mean, 100%. So Kylie put up the headline. We have some news right now. The Oklahoma City Thunder will not be visiting the White House to celebrate their 2025 NBA championship win, breaking from past customs of NBA champions, heading to the White House to celebrate this year, according to the Atlantic, the Thunder will not be going to the White House, will not be meeting with President Donald Trump. They cite timing issues. They said, quote, we have been touched with the White House and are appreciative and grateful for the communication we have had, but the timing just didn't work out. Now, Donald Trump's election in 2016 has disrupted the past precedent of NBA champions visiting the White House. For example, the Golden State Warriors in 2017, and again, in 2018, decline the invitation from the president of the United States to visit. And now you have the Thunder declining the invitation as well. This is such a win. Such a win for people like us and blue dots and red states all over the place, because we have to deal with so much. You never get presidential candidates that come to your state for a rally, because it's just a foregone conclusion it will turn red. Here's how election night goes for somebody who's all three of us are very politically active, right? And we follow the news cycle and all of this stuff. We can't pay and we have the signs in our yard to have stickers, we get merch, we do everything we can do for the blue ticket, because we see firsthand the dangers of mega supermajorities or before mega, Republican supermajorities. And this is what happens. You get excited to go vote. Then you get back home when you're watching Cornacchi or John King somebody, right? One of these guys with a magic wall and you're flipping back and forth channels. It's like, okay. Right now the following states are, the polls are closing in Oklahoma and it goes, do do do do breaking news. Donald Trump wins Oklahoma. It's immediate and it's devastating. And so kudos to the Oklahoma City Thunder for not being fascist collaborators, for not going to play patty cake with an administration that is removing actively removing black history from all pillars, national parks, the US military, all sorts of places. Because this is a league that is, I think it's 80 something percent, African American athletes really, really high. And so I really love that they aren't going and then just another personal grievance that I need to air. And if those of you that don't follow sports, I apologize for what this will make this short. But there is this announcer and her name is Doris Burke. Yeah. Doris Burke, she is an MBA announcer. And she spreads propaganda about shea Giligas Alexander. And she called refers to him as a foul merchant. Yeah, which means that he is intentionally getting all of these fouls or faking people into fouls. This guy just broke Wilt Chamberlain's record. He's on a streak of like 20 plus points, MBA history. Yeah. Whenever I see somebody and we talk about basketball because I have this little Oklahoma city thunder beanie that I wear in New York and it's been really cold. And people say you like the thunder, I love the thunder as shea is incredible. And they will say, oh, he's a foul merchant. And I was like, that is Doris Burke propaganda. You are propaganda, that is bullshit. And so I've had it with that. And that's something that pumps is so into sports. So I want you to be impressed that I have a sports grievance pubs. I am very impressed. I was shocked. I mean, you even name checked her. Yeah, I thought you'd be really proud of me. I'm very proud. And my boys are super MBA obsessed. And so this is something I bond with being a hashtag boy mom, being the only hashtag girl in my family. I have had to become interested in things that I wasn't normally interested in, which one is MBA basketball. And once you get into it, it's really fun. And they're so athletic. And the league is fantastic. And obviously the Oklahoma City Thunder is fucking incredible. National champs, fuck you, Trump. And I just want to say Doris Burke, stop with the SGA propaganda. You are propagandizing the youth to diminish somebody's incredible run. And you need to retract that statement on the record, on the record. And we will welcome you to, I've had a podcast. To do it. To make your retraction. Because clearly at this stage, you, by letting this out there, you are poisoning the minds of MBA youth fans against somebody who is going to be legendary in the history of history is not going to be kind to you, Doris. And you have a chance, just scooot. She has a chance. Jen, there's a shirt. I'm going to have to get it for you that a lot of people in Oklahoma City have. And it's like an anti-Doris Burke t-shirt. Oh, and then when I tell people Doris Burke is a propagandist, then they'll come back to me as, oh, a woman not supporting a woman. And I'm like, here's the thing with that. The women supporting women is one of the most abused things on the planet. I support women, of course, of course I do. I don't support propagandists, regardless of the gender. So I've had it with all of that. 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That man who is yes talking about teleporting to a waffle house is Greg Phillips and he now holds one of the most important jobs of FEMA overseeing the office of response and recovery. It was an incredibly brightening moment to experience yourself in your car flying through the air. I tell you teleporting is no fun. Phillips is a far right activist and he now helps determine how the government responds when disaster strikes, according billions of dollars in search and rescue operations and emergency aid. He was appointed to this position in December and a CNN K file review of Phillips podcast and social media history found a long record of extraordinary personal claims. They tracked down what a week we felt like we're we're three million on citizen voters election fraud conspiracy theories and violent rhetoric towards public officials said we know that three million illegally voted. Do you have the proof? Yes. Will you provide it? Yes. Can I have it? No. In January 2025 after Trump took office, Phillips was discussing a Trump executive order that targeted intelligence officials who had questioned the veracity of Hunter Biden's laptop before the 2020 election. Phillips said this. I'm going to find you. I'm going to track you down on the beat the living snot out of you. He then talked about former president Joe Biden. I would like to punch that into the mouth right now. He is a nasty crappy human being and he deserves to die. And I hope he does. Phillips first rose to prominence promoting false claims of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 and 2020 elections. The unfounded claims were widely disputed by both courts and election officials. On multiple occasions, Phillips described migrants crossing the southern border as an invading force and urged people to arm themselves. The world is here. They want you dead. They come. They've come here to kill you. Be right armed. Take care of your family. The person making these remarks is now in a position of public trust at an agency where judgment, credibility and calm decision making carry life or death consequences. A FEMA spokesperson told CNN this is so silly. It's barely worth acknowledging. DHS FEMA and Mr. Phillips are focused on the critical mission of emergency management and ensuring the safety of the American people. So I say this a lot on our political podcast and I think it's worthy to repeat here. We all saw January 6th. We all saw Trump 1.0, the bleach, scramble the pussy, winning a hang mic, pants, etc. So him winning again, exposes a real cancer in American culture where in the electorate, a lot of people didn't care about that. They wanted to celebrate the villain. They wanted to celebrate a felon. They wanted to celebrate a cheater. They wanted to celebrate a violent person. And so they voted for him. And then now that he's in government again, you see the moral collapse of not only the oligarchs but of the people who want to go work for him. Because anybody with integrity or decency would say, I am not going to work for that man. I am simply, I morally have massive issues with him. I believe in the Constitution, I believe in democracy. He clearly doesn't objectively. He doesn't. And then you have these nuts. All that remains are nuts. Only crazy people want to go vote for him. And this why the waffle house. Let's dive into that. Why waffle house? What working theory do you all have? Why are we teleporting to waffle house? I'm so traumatizing for him. If I was teleported somewhere, I don't think waffle house would traumatize me. Now I'd rather get a iHop if I was teleporting now. But here's the deal. Will you iHop over waffle house? Hang on. I hop over waffle house. Yes. I love iHop pancakes. Love. Love, love. Kylie, act. I go there sometimes at night for dinner. By yourself? Yes. Do you sit at the bar or booth? No, I get a booth. I would be waffle house. My theory is, and I've teleported to waffle house before. Blackout drunk. Right. That's what I do. I've been out. Someone drove me. I appeared in a waffle house. So like, that's my theory. I agree. 100%. He was fucked up. He was fucked up. That's the only explanation for that. Or alternate explanation. It never fucking happened. Okay, that's that's a great alternate. He made it all up. He's making shit up just like the three million votes. Right. He's just literally free-balling and pulling shit out of his ass for clicks. Yeah. And now he's like a government. And that is great. Yeah. Okay. A long time ago, in the early days of this podcast, Pumps and I did a lot of reporting on the Dugger family. And for those of you that don't know, the Dugger families are these Uber religious breeders. And they bred to the tune of, I think it's 19 children they had. And they had a reality show, the Duggers and the Duggers and me and the Duggers have more kids and on and on. And they homeschool their kids and the curriculum looks like it's literally like here. Here's history class and here's the hunter gathers and they're handing the dinosaur like it's it's with deliverables. That's what that called. Wisdom booklets. Yeah. And so the Dugger kids, as you can imagine, that upbringing has not be hoved them. The abstinence only purity culture not tethered to reality, magical thinking, iron age thinking has not equipped them for impulse control in adulthood. And originally one of their sons was charged with a bunch of pornography, right, pumps. And then I think the sisters had claims that he had sexually abused his own sisters. And so now we have another Dugger that is in trouble. Kylie pup this up. Joseph Dugger of 19 kids and counting arrested for sexually abusing a minor. The accusation against the seventh born son of the sprawling reality TV family came five years after his older brother was arrested on similar charges. A statement from the Bay County Sheriff's office on the 31 year olds arrest indicated that he has been charged with lured and lascivious behavior involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor. His arrest comes five years after his brother Josh Dugger, the eldest of the Dugger's 19 children was arrested on charges of receiving and possessing child sexual abuse material. He was convicted in the sentence to 12 years in prison. I'm shocked the Trump hasn't pardoned him. Just that just came into my brain right there. Okay. According to the sheriff's office on March 18th Bay County investigators were contacted by a detective with the taunt to town police department regarding a report of past sexual abuse after a 14 year old victim participated in a forensic interview. Speaking with authorities, the girl discussed several incidents involving Dugger that she said occurred during a family vacation in Panama Beach City when she was nine. Police said that an investigation of the incidents led them to learn they took place in 2020 while the family was staying at the residence on Danny Drive the victim reported that Joseph Dugger at the Dugger's seventh-born child repeatedly asked the girl sit on his lap as the vacation continued. He is alleged to have asked her to sit next to him on the couch and covered them with a blanket during this time. Dugger manipulated the victims' underwear and graced her genitals. Dugger would also continue to rub his hands on her thighs. Sorry for the graphic content, but we cannot sanitize, especially in the Epstein era of the United States of America. The horrible sexual abuse allegations of the Dugger family. Well, and you know, here's the thing. This is just based on my experience and you know, looking out and seeing all this sexual abuse of children. You see it more in these uber religious environments. They are not taught about no. They, you know, I mean, it's just so sad to me. This is just so sad. Yes. Because these girls, and it can be little boys too, they don't know A, can I say now? What is this touching? They're told, well, you brought it on yourself. The victim's shaming is unbelievable. You won't be believed. You're full of shame because you participated in sex. Like it's a whole mind fuck. And I thought we were moving forward with me too, but we have gone so far backwards from that that we have this whole Epstein class of people that apparently everybody knew about and we still don't have any accountability. And it's just, I worry about the chilling effect of girls and boys, but particularly girls coming forward because they feel like they won't be believed or they will be dismissed or they will be bullied. But in this particular family, you can see how somebody that ignores the rules of sex education and only teaches abstinence. This is what happens. And it's just, you see it more and more in these uber religious cult-like situations and it's just, it's extremely sad. And I would just state that the problem with a lot of this is that as a society, we need to address the abstinence only lies and how much they endanger children because in abstinence only, all they're taught is you cannot do any of this stuff. They're not taught about consent, proper consent, improper consent, age of consent. They're not taught about agency and autonomy over their bodies. They're only told you, all of these things are dirty, all of them, even consensual making out among high schoolers, right? In the Duggers world is Sen, devil, beazelbubs coming to get you. And then all of a sudden, magically when you're married, ta-da, it's godly. And that's a real mind-fuck. I mean, that's just a, it sets up girls and boys. But I will just say one thing, Poms, about girls not wanting to come forward. It's worse with boys because of the societal expectation that boys should like it. That I think even the president of the United States has said something about a male victim in his past when he was a New York City resident, that, oh, well, I'm sure he really liked it. One of these teacher things. And the problem for young boys is that there is the social construct that even if it's rape or even if it's sexual assault, that take it, you know, at least you got some. So it's even worse. And I think that as we unpackage all of this fascism stuff in the large Christian nationalist component to it, the most co-opted group of our electorate, they're positioning and they're thinking regarding sex is problematic from leaving these kids vulnerable that don't understand what consent means. Don't understand that it's perfectly normal to want to make out, make down, get a hickey, you know, all the stuff that we did. Yes. And all of this also extends to homophobia. The abstinence only is a anchor that leads to shaming sex and then they start quantifying which sex is the worst. So it is something culturally that when our ancestors came over here in colonized the United States of America, we got the crazy Christians. It's always pitched us that we came over here for religious liberty. And I think that's a little disingenuous. A lot of them came over here because they wanted to be more religious and we got the crazy Christians. America has had a crazy Christian problem since its inception. The one thing, the common link that people think when they think about Americans that are not Americans is how religious of a culture we are. We are very religious culture and this abstinence only stuff, not only does it not work. It's dangerous. It endangers children very, very, very much not to have open candid conversations about sexuality and consent. And even after you're married, in a lot of these situations, the wife is being raped but she doesn't know that. She knows she doesn't like it. She knows she feels violated but nobody's told her they'd like, if your husband does it, it's fine. So I mean, it is really a disturbing problem that is, it continues to happen. It's really sad. Okay, Kylie, let's go to some boys' memos from our listener. Okay, first we've got one from Tommy. Hey ladies, it's listener from Wisconsin. This message actually specifically is for pumps. On your last podcast, you mentioned spending five minutes with Ted Cruz would be better than being on a cruise ship full of Disney Christians. Well, I just have to say that it is very bold of you to assume that Ted Cruz will last a few five minutes. I'm guessing it's about like two minutes and 32 seconds, which also includes four play, the actual event going down, cuddling afterwards, smoking a cigarette and possibly writing the fridge for something to eat. Guys love all of you very much. Keep up the great work. Tommy, you're right. Tommy nailed it. That was such a, such a miss on my part. I mean, Ted is a gywriter, quick shot, all the things. So thank you Tommy. Yeah, for sure. Okay, Kylie, who's next? Okay, next we've got Chris. Hi ladies, Gatorate here. I'm just gonna cut to the chase. I have absolutely had it with unsolicited advice. I go to take my dog out today. I see this old man very hunchbacked by the way. Just pass me by and he has a dog off of the leash. Whatever he's passing by, don't care. But then he makes eye contact with me. And for whatever reason, I must have a very inviting tell me everything face or something because he comes right over with his ugly dog and starts giving me unsolicited advice. As to, oh, well, if you take all this stuff off your dog, they can listen to vocal commands. Meanwhile, his dog is nowhere to be found. Like where the fuck is your dog at? And then also, I could tell that my dog was very uncomfortable because he literally goes to pet my dog and my dog starts whimpering and backing away. Sir, who the fuck are you to give me advice? Also, put your dog on a damn leash and don't give me advice about stuff that you don't even have under wraps. This is insane. Don't fucking talk to me. I don't need your opinion. And figure out your fucking hunchback. Go to a doctor. I don't know what to do. Anyway, love you guys. - It's so true. Unsolicited advice is the worst. And I have found myself in the throes of doing it. And then like two or three sentences in, I'm like, what are you doing? Why do you care? Why are you involved in this? I'll give you an example. So it's probably about a year ago. I'm playing pickle ball with all my friends at Chicken and Pickle in Oklahoma City. And there are these people on the court next to me. And they are using the wrong type of pickle ball. So there's outdoor pickle balls, and indoor pickle ball balls. And they had the wrong ball. I don't know what came over me. Like everything I've had it with, everything the caller has had it with, I was. I walked to the side of the court. And I have an extra ball and I go, hey, I just wanted you all to know you're playing with the wrong ball. You're playing with an indoor ball. And you need to be playing with an outdoor ball. And they said, but we're indoors. And I said, yeah, I know, but this is the surface as an outdoor surface. The indoor ball you're playing with is like for a gym at a church that's been converted. So here's the extra ball. And then they start asking a lot of follow up questions. And it's probably about 10 seconds into them. Like, why the fuck are you not staying in your lane ignorant, what? Why do you care what pickle ball they are using? Why is this your business? Why are you the pickle ball leader? No, it all. I just was so disgusted with myself. I think I lost every match after that. And I'm just deserving. Deservingly so. Deservingly so. Well, because I was just like, what an idiotic what I am all up in their business about what kind of pickle ball they're using. So I agree with the caller. Yeah. Thank you for reminding me of this because sometimes I do this. I agree. I am. And I need to cease at all times. I do the same thing. And I'll catch what and I'll be like, I don't know why I'm telling you this. I have no idea. Like half the time. I don't even know what I'm talking about. But I just feel like I have to tell people, it's like, shut the fuck up. Just shut up. I do it all. You really are the worst. I'm the worst. I have started telling like if somebody asked me a question about like, when this happened, my new responses, it could have been last week. It could have been five years ago. I just don't know. I just I I fuck up timeline so bad that I've just given myself that out. Do you think this is early onset? We know I do. I have so many different things that I think are. But so good. Go ahead. I was going to say, but you know, last time we talked about it on the episode, I had so many people leave me comments that like, if you're question alien, you probably don't have it. So yeah, I do. It crosses my mind quite a bit. So Josh and I, you know, we've seen each other across word many yesterday. I sent him my results. It was 58 seconds. that I didn't send it to him. And then he sends his and it's eight minutes five seconds and he just writes, fuck me. Usually it says, it makes a long for him. I don't know because I told you he's a victim of the clues. He thinks the clue, the people who make the crossword puzzles are colluding against him to fuck with him. He gets super analytical about it. Here's the deal. Josh is super smart. I hate saying that, but he really, really is. So I am surprised. He is self sabotaging because there's no reason he can't figure this out. It's just not. Yeah. All right, Kylie, who's next? Okay. Up next, we've got Brian. Hi, Jennifer pumps and Kylie. This is Daniel. I'm a gay triad from rural North Carolina. And I have fucking had it with people using religion in the workplace. So back in February, I started a new job. I had previously been laid off for quite a while. And then I log on to my first Monday morning, weekly meeting, kind of like a kickoff meeting for the week. And my boss looks out across the zoom call and she says, we're going to start all of our Monday morning meetings with prayer, as long as no one has an issue with that. And so meeting the new hire I have been previously laid off, all of my financial wellbeing was riding on keeping this job. I didn't feel comfortable saying anything. So what did we do every fucking Monday morning for the entire time that I worked there? We prayed as a group. And first of all, I feel like this should fucking be illegal. But yeah, I'm fucking had it with people using their position of power, especially in the workplace, to try to push their religion onto other fucking people. And I'm happy to report that I no longer work at that company. I found a good opportunity. That was the first of many red flags, but I just could not fucking believe that I had to sit through a prayer every Monday morning to start off my week. Yeah. I mean, there's just something that compulsivity with religion is something that's so ubiquitous in Bible belt states that I'm sure people in the coast or international listeners are listening to that going, how is that legal? And it is so ubiquitous. There is just this people try to out religion each other and out pray each other. And it ends up being incredibly performative and it has no real meaning to it. But I've shared this story before. It's probably a couple of years ago, but I'll share it again. So in my early days as an interior designer, I got these clients. And they were building a really big house. It was like a big project for me to score. It's probably like eight, nine thousand square foot house. And they were real hardcore Bible tempers. Like the guy was, he had some sort of, he was like some sort of Christian DJ and he had was real high up in the mega church and all this shit and eat listener. You know, you know, how much I despised this shit, but I was poor. And I mean, money was money. And so I take the job. And I thought they were just kind of, you know, I lived in Oklahoma. I knew Bible tempers. So each meeting that we go to, I would show them something or pick out something or design something like, okay, for the crown molding, I think we do it this we do this many inches. It starts here. It wraps here. And it was like, praise Jesus. Not like that's a great idea. Everything was like, praise the Lord. And the Lord has spoken. And it was just Lord, it's broken. Crazy. It was, but Nana's. Okay. So then the paint color, we get to the paint color phase. And literally it's like a warm white with beige undertones and then a warm white with gray undertones. Those are the two options. And they're just tormented. And it's written these kind of things when you get in these projects, you just live with it forever. You get an air down to two. It's common to have this kind of torment. So I said, which one do you want to do? They're going to start painting tomorrow. The painter needs the colors. And he said, well, you know what I think we're going to do, Jennifer, we're going to take this home and pray on it. And we'll get back with you in the morning. And I was just like, I just cannot fucking work for these people. I just cannot fucking work for these people. And then I think a couple of days later, something happened on the job site that was not my fault, but this is a very common thing where the subcontractor messes something up. And they call the designer or somebody and they just start screaming. These Christian people, I've never had my ass chewed out by a subcontractor, a builder, an architect, a client. Like, I have this guy that was like the radio Christian DJ slash part-time pastor of a mega church. It was rich as shit because the house they were spending was a few million dollars typical. And he calls me and he's like, fucking any it's F bombs. He's like the fucking trim carpenter didn't put the it's this many inches. Did you tell him? Did you fucking tell him Jennifer? And I was like, yeah, I can send you the email that I forwarded to him. It was all drawn out. This is on him. This is not on me. Well, the god damn blah, blah, blah. I mean, it was god damn's and fucks and fuck me and all this shit. And I was like, I don't think I can work for you anymore. I just I think we're done. I think I need to quit the project. I'm firing you as a client. This project has to be over. And then he calls me later that night in the evening with his wife on the phone. And that's always, you know, when I husband and wife have to be on the phone together. Like, yeah, he's a big boy. He needs to apologize on his own. He doesn't need his babysitter on the phone with him apologizing for being a dick. And she's like, honey, do you have something you would like to share with Jennifer? A child. I, you know, I led my wife and I led with prayer and sometimes Satan gets ahold of us. And Bob, and I just said, I really wish you guys the best of luck with your home. I genuinely do. I am not a good fit. I am not a good fit for this project. And it was a shit ton of money. But there just wasn't a bank account big enough that I could go through that process. This was just when we were doing the bones of the house before we even got to the furniture. And it was just I had to kept it. I had to kept it. Yeah. And it's hard to kept it when you have, like, you have to have the money. Here's the deal. I wish I could say any part of that story surprised me. I wish I could say, oh my gosh, that's just that's not the norm. That's exactly the norm. It's exactly, exactly it had divorce clients to do the same shit to me. It's like, I want to pray over this decision. And then it's like, you know, they're fucking everybody on the street. You know, they're just horrible, horrible people. And it's just like spare me the fake outrage over not going to send a school on sending. Like shut the fuck up. Josh, my husband will have criminal defense clients that are charged with a crime. And they'll be like, well, what we're going to do is we're going to accept Jesus again for the get resaved, the resaving. And Josh will go, that's great for you. But the judge is not just not going to give a shit about that. Like that doesn't mean anything in court. I'm glad your personally doing that. But that just means nothing. All right, Kylie, let's do one more color. Okay, the last one we're going to do is Brian. Hi, pumps. Hi, Miss New York. Fucking city. I have sort of had it with that. It's Brian from Oregon. The one who had it with bare feet on an airplane three years ago. Well, bitch is I'm back with a cameo. And by the way, congratulations on your gay award. I can say that because my husband's gay, I have fucking had it up to my nostrils with people at the grocery store who shove parsley and their shnauz for a sniff test. Well, first of all, I don't want your bookies on my parsley. Second, this is store bought parsley, laying in a box with ice shipped from Mexico, not known as farm and tuskeny. So now I have to scoot the box out and take my parsley from the back to avoid all the nastiness. I witnessed it three times in the past two months. I swear to God. And for the permanent record, this seems like something pumps might do as part of her caranism. Love you, pumps. Love you too for her. Here's the nose. You well. He never. We so well. I can totally see you cram in that shit, rot up your nose and doing a big sniff and then putting it right back down. He, he, he picks up what you put down. Yeah, totally. And I have even done the cantaloupe. I don't get parsley because I don't cook that much. But in the summer, I get cantaloupe and I hate picking up cantaloupe because I fuck it up every time. But I will sit there and do that. And then I realize I have my whole nose when I get in the car has like dirt on it from shoving it in so many cantaloupe. So that is me nailed it. So is there a sniff technique? Yeah, I watched YouTube videos like if it smells sweet, like if it smells like the inside of a cantaloupe. Stop, stop. You went on to the worldwide web and Googled how to pick the correct cantaloupe. Yes. And why do you video? Yes. I watch several. I mean, I, I love cantaloupe. I love watermelon. Like I will eat one. I love, love, love it. But I can never get a good one. Never. So I mean, I went deep in. I never knew this about you. Yeah. I love you like cantaloupe and watermelon. But I didn't know that you put this kind of effort into picking one out. Yes. Because I, for like four years, I got shitty ones like cut it open and threw it away. It was so bad. Let me ask you this. Okay. Like the pre cut cantaloupe. Is that not as like a, because it kind of has a weird aftertaste and it kind of gets mushy in certain spots. What about honey do you like honey do? I do like any duvet not like. like I like caneloop. - See, I prefer a honeydew over a caneloop. I do. I like a honeydew better. I would rate them as follows. Watermelon honeydew caneloop in the melon category. I think I would go caneloop watermelon melon. Wait. So caneloop first, then watermelon, then honeydew. - Okay. - Yeah. - Yeah, I prefer honeydew over. I just didn't know that is there a whole subculture of people that engage in this type of internet deep diving about how to pick the correct. - True. I mean, I don't mean that. - How many views have you been doing? - But it had like over a million views, a couple of them did. - Like millions of views. People want to know how to pick a good caneloop. - Okay, probably. - Now I'm thinking is it AI? - The next time, no, I think it's probably real. I think there's probably a whole like niche to that. But because we're not growing it. So we're having a trust. - Some. - You ever grew it, right? But there is a farmer's market close to my apartment in New York on the weekends. They are set up every single time. Now I particularly don't really know how to, I wouldn't even know how to begin to cut a caneloop. I'm not culinary thing is not my, the seeds and all of that in it. I've just, but the next time you're up here, you can go to the farmer's market. 'Cause I would imagine that I think that the farmer's market fruit would be superior to the grocery store. Do you have any intel on that with your deep dives? - Well, no, it didn't really go into that, but I do, I stop at those corner melon people. - Like a corner. - As a better corner. They'll have like caneloop and watermelon stands. I'll get them from there. - Is it better? - Yeah, I think it is, but then I don't know. You know, I don't know. 'Cause then I have them pick it out. Like the person that grew it. I'm like, pick me out a good one. So that tends to be better. - Seedless watermelon or traditional watermelon? - It has to be seedless. Like I hate being like that, but I have to have a seedless watermelon. - All right, well, I just didn't know that you, I didn't know that you were investigating and researching and educating yourself on how to pick the correct, is this an ongoing thing that you continue, continuing education, like you're continuing legal education? - No, I be fracking you. - It's my skills. This was about two years ago, but I keep my skills hound. - Okay. - I'm proud of you, Pops. Let me know. Like keep us updated like what works. - What a good one. - What's going on? - Yeah. (laughs) All right, listeners, we'll see you next Tuesday and Thursday. (upbeat music) - Play what I'm having with. - Jared, I'm having it with them. Listen up, Patriots, Gatriots and Patriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. 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