# 174 Building a one-person AI agent business that makes $50K/month

10 clients at 5 grand a month, one person running the entire thing with a team of AI agents. That's $50,000 a month in recurring revenue at 90% margins. And we're going to hand you the entire blueprint in this episode. I brought on Nick Vasilescu, who's a co-founder of Orgo.ai. And we built out the entire business model live on screen, everything from the offer to how you find clients, how you onboard them, and then how you deploy managed agents without touching a single line of code yourself. I even watched Nick deploy a Hermes agent from scratch in 26 seconds on screen in this episode. So if you want a business that you can start this week with the skills that you already have, this is the episode for you. All right, Nick. So who are you and what is someone going to take away if they listen to the end of this episode? Man, I'm telling you, the best opportunity today is to set up agents for businesses, and you can do it on Orgo. On the co-founder of Orgo, we give you the computers and the environments that you need to set up these agents. And what's interesting is you could set up Hermes agent. You could set up OpenClaw. You could also set up Codex and Cloud Code and Cloud Desktop for your customers on a Windows computer in Orgo. Manage fleets of them in work spaces. So we're giving you this all out of the box, business in a box. You could set this up in a day, have all of your customers have their own workspace in Orgo. And yeah, I just think that this entire stack from the offer to how to get customers, how to onboard them, how to build these agents out. We walk through all of this for you. And so at the end of this video, you should be able to have everything you need to get started. So start making money with the skill that you have today, which is setting up agents. So I'm super excited to see what people build. >> Me too. So yeah, so to kind of summarize, at least my take on it and your title of the diagram here sums it up nicely. Like we're going to be handing you guys in the audience. The blueprint for building a 5K a month per client. That is 5K per client per month, one person, AI agent, managed agent, business blueprint. You can take the diagram that we have here. We're going to put it in the description. Take the diagram, hand it to Claw, hand it to Hermes, hand it to your agent and have it build you out this entire business plan. And that's exactly what we're going to be all today. So I'm excited to dive in. Let's do it. Like the biggest arbitrage here is a few things. A, everyone in tech Twitter or on AI YouTube, like we think that the rest of the world is like us and that they, everyone can set up Clawed Code, everyone can set up Hermes Age and everyone already knows how to do that. But the reality is 99% of people, especially businesses, they don't know. They're still asking Chagy Bouti what the weather is. And the value that they can get, like the magical wow, like time, that first wow moment is very, it hooks a lot of business owners. And then their creativity just goes through the roof of like all the different problems they can solve with AI. So yeah, like a lot of this comes down to, you know, I'll walk through kind of how to think about what problems to solve here, you know, the highest value problems that require the least effort cost and time. And then just solving those first and having it infiltrate the business. And then everything else that gets solved along the way, it's like, it's easily valuable of, you know, the range of five, four, four, six, six, and a month. And yeah, I think like not enough people are doing this and we're seeing a great amazing pull in the market for this. So yeah, shall we just dive right in? 100%. Yeah, let's get into the model. I'm excited. So let's dive in. Cool. So essentially, what we want to do in terms of our offer is that we want to, once again, remove all of the complexity. These business owners, they don't understand, okay, what is token usage? What is infrastructure? Security, like, what is Hermes agent versus open claw? What's a harness? They don't know. They don't care. They want their problem solved. And so we have to keep that in mind. And we have to create as much simplicity and clarity in our offer as possible. So what I like to do is I like to say, look, we'll handle unlimited tokens, limited agents, unlimited infrastructure, computers, whatever you need, we'll handle it. You don't have to worry. Like, that's at the end of the day. Like, that's what you have to do as a company. You come in to reduce the friction, get rid of all the friction in terms of settings on the up. You're doing a managed service for them. So keep it that way. Keep it simple. And then go in and offer, you know, kind of abundance. And with that, a lot of people are like, well, how do you ever make money if it's unlimited agents? What if they want 100 agents? I have customers. They think they want 400 agents. Really what they think is what really what they want is just, you know, they have like, maybe a few different automations in mind. And they think it's going to take 400 agents. But that's where you need to really come in and just be like, that domain expert and say, no, okay, like it's really like, maybe it's one of three agents. So yeah, I think like, there's no need to be kind of like worried about, oh, I'm going to get screwed over like a lot of customers are very reasonable. If they genuinely need 20 agents, like they will be happy to pay for that. And you can clearly like communicate that. But yeah, I like to just keep it very simple and do the, do the five cam month offer. I see that work really well. I don't know about you, Corey, but the industries that work really well for us are agencies like marketing agencies, brand design agencies, law firms, insurance agencies, even insurance companies like software companies and insurance is really good. Manufacturing wholesale real estate. We try to avoid healthcare and finance because there's just a lot of red tape in these industries. But if you're already a domain expert in healthcare and finance, then go for it. Like at the end of the day, when it comes to picking a niche, you really just want to pick either a what you know or be wherever the market is pulling you. And I would avoid trying to like, guess on like, oh, I'm going to go into, I don't know, like telehealth. I remember when I first started in online business like doing a marketing agency, like several years back, like I started in telehealth. It was like terrible decision. I didn't know anything about telehealth. I was just like, oh, it sounded like a good idea. So don't do that. Just try, try a bunch of different industries. See where you get pulled into the most and double down on that. And in real quick on that topic, I think that's really good advice. So that's something that people ask me all the time. It's like, oh, should I go niche or should I go abroad to start? And my answer is kind of like you said, it's like if you have really specific domain expertise, if you're a lawyer by trade, then serve law firms from the start, right? You already have an edge there. But if you don't have any specific like super deep industry expertise, do not go niche from the start, say yes to just about any client. And then like you said, the market is going to kind of, you're kind of going to find your niche from doing that. Like I know when we were doing, when we started off doing our AI assessments, we were obviously doing them for anyone that wanted them. And we were like, oh, hey, we're actually a lot of like realtors are asking us for these, right? And that's not to say that we specialize in realtors now, but like we could if we wanted to. And that'd probably be a lot easier for us to do because we've already validated that market. So that's, I think that's really good advice on your end. And that's just a reminder for the audience. Yeah, exactly. And I don't know. I think it's a kind of a new mistake in business when you get started out of like putting something off because it doesn't sound scalable. It's like, right, oh, I'm not going to do this because I'm never going to scale. And it'll never like be repeatable enough that like when you're starting out, you just need to make money. Like you need that. So like, however you're going to get that, you got to get it. So like if it's doing an audit or if it's doing something that's a little different, like from a customer to customer, like the whole, the whole point of when you get started is not necessarily to be scalable from the beginning. It's to like actually learn, get in the trenches and learn, you know, what works, what doesn't work. And so I think a lot of people live a little too much in theory. And so I guess like the big, my biggest piece of advice here is like, just get out there and start selling a building. And you will kind of like, this is how I learned all of this is like, it's not like I, you know, kind of wrote it down one day and philosophized about it. So, um, yeah, I guess as far as next up in terms of getting customer, I think that's what I'm saying. So, you know, I think that's what I'm saying. So, I think that's what I'm saying. And so, I think that's what I'm saying. So, you can have a terrible funnel. So, like, content is king. People want to know who you are. They want to see that they can trust you. And going into a call, they feel like they already know you. Like, that's the biggest strategic advantage. If you don't do content, I love, I love Upwork. I just love, I don't know if you've, I don't know if you've looked at like Upwork. You could like, you could just go to Upwork type in Hermes agents or OpenClydants. Like, people are literally like, you could like, you could like, you could just go to Upwork type in Hermes agents or OpenClydants. willing to pay thousands of dollars to help you set up Harmie's agents in this video. I'm going to show you how to get set up really quickly on Orgo. But yeah, like Upwork is another great place to get started. And also, I don't know, did you ever do anything like free in the beginning? Because when I started doing like computer use AI agents back in November for businesses? I'd like the first five of them that I did were actually free. And it was just for the case case studies. 100%. I mean, when we when I first started in AI, again, around a similar time, we were doing AI assessments. Like that was the first offer that I that I ran and we're still doing them. But the first ending two or three we did were completely free. And that was because one, we wanted to work out the kinks in the process. And two, like you said, we wanted those case studies. And we wanted that feedback from the client on what we could do better. Exactly. Yeah. And like they'll always give you a referral when you do that too. And so then it's just a snowball. So yeah, we still I still have like actual technically I still have people's like agents that I managed today that they were free. But they're you know, you're the free people in the beginning that in a way they kind of they even though even if they don't give you money at first, they still believe in you enough to like spend time with you let you solve their problems and trust you in that way. And so. And so then it's kind of funny because I know in your so Corey just had a video go viral about audits. And one of what you said one of the parts of that video is how in a call with a customer, you have like an AI voice recorder like granola and you give it to Claude. And then Claude just comes up with the whole like solution for the workflow or tool for to solve their problem. And that's exactly what I do as well in terms of onboarding clients. The first call I don't even try to actually sell in the first call. I really just try and get the pain points understood really well. And like what is the workflow specifically. And then either the result of that is they close on that call immediately or they close on the second call. But the whole point here being we want to identify their problems, have an AI voice recorder. And then we want to map the whole workflow like tip to tell of what that might look like in terms of an AI agent that solves and automates that problem through and through. So and if you do that with not just like one workflow or automation, if you have like several of them. So here's a graph. It's a simple practice is like a design thinking's practice on how to know what problems to solve. You can imagine these are all like sticky notes and you're like okay, like this one here is a customer support workflow. I don't know. This one over here is like another I want to invoice agents workflow. So on and so forth. And you just want to map them in terms of okay, what is the one that has the most value. And takes the least effort cost in time. And that's your that's your golden area and you want to start there. And so that first call you're trying to get all these cards. You're trying to figure out what are all the different things we could automate. Maybe this is your audit in your case. And okay, then once you figure out what the things are to automate. I mean, that's they literally just told you their problem. They just told you they want to automate this thing. It's like such an easy sell at that point. And so yeah, to kind of add to that too. Sorry to cut you off, but that's right. You can. So I mean, what you're explaining the audit, like that's literally what we charge for. Like people would pay us a thousand dollars for that exact call many times. And I think to even take it a step further is like you sell the audit is kind of like a foot in the door offer because it's a lot easier for someone for you to be like, Hey, you know, basically pay me a thousand dollars one time fee. And I will show you all of the AI agent or automation opportunities that exist inside your business. Right. And then when you're delivering the audit to them on a follow up call, you're upselling the five grand a month managed service. But the the kicker is you credit the thousand dollars they paid you for the audit towards the first month's managed service. So it's like, hey, yeah, it's like, Hey, the audit is complete. Like you already paid me a thousand. I'll make it free. I'll basically refund it to you if you go with our managed service offering. Right. So that's a really good way for them to be like, Oh, yeah, no brainer. And honestly, like, I think I'm going to adopt that 100% now that you say that because it's like that is in and of itself a really good way to qualify leads is if, yeah, if they're willing to pay money up front for an audit and not waste your time, then like, yeah, like that, that's actually like one of the best things you could do in terms of just protecting yourself and making sure you're not wasting time with anybody. 100%. And the audit's an easy sell. And then you even do a you can do a many audit, right? Uncover one pain point, show them one opportunity. That's free full audit, you know, is five to seven or more pain points. That's a thousand bucks. And then managed service is like the moneymaker offer and then we just credit the audit, the thousand dollar audit towards that service. That's kind of how I would structure it. Yeah. Oh, that's brilliant. So for everyone watching this video, steal this, steal this offer, steal this kind of like flow paid audit into a managed service agent. Yeah, that's like that's some sauce right there. And it can we can we put the X Khaledraw drawing that you're showing here? Like can we put this diagram in the description so somebody could lit like somebody could literally if Nick's school with it, they could take the escaladraw that we'll put in the description in the show notes. They can give it to Claude or their Hermes agent or their open-claw or whoever and have it build out the full infrastructure like everything from the SOPs to the onboarding to the skills to like everything. And then here in a couple of minutes we'll show you guys how to actually set up your first managed agent on orgo, Nick's product. And that that's kind of the whole thing A disease. So like this video is literally will be a five thousand dollar a month managed agent business in a box, right? Exactly. Yeah, we'll definitely include the X Khaledraw for sure. Awesome. Yeah, so yeah, I mean when you when you solve when you find all the workflow automations that you could solve and you pick the ones to solve and you do those first, it's kind of like the first hit that's the first magic moment. And the reality is open-claw Hermes agent these two tools there's some of the stickiest products of all time they grew so fast they went so viral like you'd be silly to not try and get this in the hands of business owners and get them addicted to it. Because it's like the retention problem for for those being like a product market fit solution like that's already solved like you just need to get it out there. So you need to be the implementer. So the term in terms of the stack right, but we can kind of dive in on like how to build these agents. But essentially there's a few tools I love to use. One is actually a composio. So let me see I'll I'll pull up a composio.dev and let me just go into my account and then I'll pull it into the main screen here. But this this company they allow you to connect all of your different apps in one connector so that you can give it to your agent. So you see here I'm connected to my Gmail connected to my super base. I have all these connectors and I literally can just go here to install. I'm not going to go there right now because it'll show my API key. You click the install you give this to your agent and now your agent has access to all of these different connectors, which is one tool. The reason this is so important and I want to I want to make a big point on this is because the the fulfillment process for building managed agents for employ for companies. The one of the biggest slowest painful like bottlenecks in doing this is getting all of their passwords and getting all the connections set up. Like it used to be a pain in the ass but this tool just makes it so easy. You just have your customer go here, make sure they're on the for you over here, not on the platform. They go here, they connect everything and then they go to the install and they'll give you their API key and you just give that to the Hermes agent or the open client agent and now it's connected to all their tools for them. It's like I love this company big shout out to them. Yeah, just to all kind of put in a voucher composio as well and we're not like affiliated or sponsored in any way but I mean I have I think seven or eight different Hermes profiles like an hour ago before we set down the record. I was setting up composio with these new Hermes and yeah it's that simple. Like there's if somebody's capable of like you know people are going to think like oh well I don't want to have to ask my client to do more than they need to or like what if they get stuck here trying to authenticate their tools. It's literally the most brain debt like anybody if you if you have a business you can set up composio like if you're competent enough to set up a business you can one click to connect any of your tools to composio and it's done so it's so easy. I know we're going to hear that objection and it's it's truly the easiest most user friendly process even if you're not technical at all so I just wanted to throw that out there for sure. Yeah, yeah I'm big fan of this product. I remember hearing about them early on and not knowing like for sure like what's the use case of this and then there's a lot of companies that are like that like what was the use case of this product like what is this tool for agents. I don't get it and then agents became a big thing with open claw and Hermes and it's like holy shit there's so many there's a whole new software stack that you can build for agents. Anyways one of those is being the computers for the agents and so I guess this is a good segue into kind of or go our product what we do and what you can do with Orgo. So here is like the playground interface for inside of Orgo when you spin up a computer, I can call this Harmies Agent Test. And I can spin up a new computer and you can go here and see it's already spun up. Harmies Agent Test, brand new. And this is like a full proper Linux desktop. And what this serves for is for your agent to be installed inside of this so that it can live in here 24/7, operate the computer, runs scheduled tasks, it has its own home, it has its own environment. And the way we built Orgo was to be so that you can manage fleets of these agents because you're going to have lots of workspaces, each workspace is its own client. And inside of each workspace, you can see here like we have like 50 computers in this one workspace here. So yeah, this is like the best way definitely to manage fleets of agents is with Orgo. And of course I'm a little biased. But you can see here we have this templates button. Templates is super exciting because we take out all of the difficulty with setting up permies, open claw, clawed code. You just go to templates, you launch this computer, I'll say, uh, Harmies Agent, I'll call it like Corey. And we'll launch this computer. And you can see here like I can also stop these computers when I'm not using them. If I want to like save on resources or what have you. And then here in my workspace, the Hermes agent will be spun up. It'll take about a minute and then we can just die right into getting it all set up. But um, any question so far? Yeah, I was going to say, let me ask a clarifying question. So, so with Orgo, right? So like you said, it's in the top left, we can kind of toggle between our different workspaces. And so the idea is that each client we have, so everybody at each client that's paying us say five grand a month has their own workspace. And let's say we onboard a new client, let's say it's like a law firm, right? So we would simply go to the top left, spin up a new workspace, call it client XYZ. And let's say this particular client, we're setting them up with the Hermes agent. So all we're having to do is go to templates, one click to set up a Hermes agent. And then it deploys a brand new virtual computer with a Hermes agent already installed on it. So then from there, we can just dive right into step three in your ex-cali-draw, which is the onboarding, right? Simply mapping, like I assume sitting down with a client and having a conversation to kind of map out those initial workflows. And then where do we go from there? Like, once we have an idea of like, okay, we know the effort versus impact for this client, we know the, these are the maybe the first two workflows that we're going to hand off to Hermes. How do we physically give those tasks to Hermes? And then the, the follow up question is, is the client ever having to get into Orgo themselves? Or is this something that we're just handling end to end for them? Yeah, great question. So, I'll answer it. So the last question first. So the, in terms of what the client sees, the client almost never is actually inside of Orgo. Orgo is like your operator layer. It's like, you're good. That's what, that's the one like thing I was unclear on. I'm like, I really hope the client never has to jump in here. Obviously not because it's a bad product. It's great. But because I feel like as soon as you start talking to your non-technical client about like, hey, you've got to, you know, spin up a Linux machine and then click that like, their eyes start to glaze over and that's when you lose them. Exactly. So the fact that they're not having to do that, I think is like, that's what they're paying you for. Exactly. Yeah. Like this, this is meant to be like your operator layer where you're going to manage their, their fleets of computers or the fleets of computers that you manage for just all your clients. And if you want to invite like other people into your workspace, you can invite here and get actually just like to elaborate on, you know, workspaces and computers together. We also have this like connect and agent feature here. So obviously we have an MCP and CLIs and skills so that I can actually like, this is really cool. Like, I'll be on a walk and I'll get a message from a customer like, hey, like my, my, my agent's not responding. Something happened. This used to be a lot more common back back in the day when OpenClaw was like, it was pre-hermese. You just used OpenClaw and OpenClaw was super unreliable and the gateway would always go down. So I'd always have to fix it. And now, and what I would do, I'd be on a walk and the gateway would go down and get a client, you know, hey, my OpenClaw is not responding. And I would just tell my agent who had the Orgo MCP connector, say, hey, Mark's, Mark's agent went down. Can you like get the gateway back up? And it would do it because it has the Orgo MCP and it could talk to the computers, go inside the computers, fix the Hermes agent, get the gateway back up and do it all for me. So, yeah, that's, that's this connector button here. You can essentially connect your Cloud Code to manage the fleet of Orgo computers. And I'll just show that real quick because I think it's like pretty cool. So let me, yeah, being able to essentially being able to troubleshoot a client agent deployment from your phone, from anywhere at any given time is insane. Like I know, like you said, like early OpenClaw days is like, you literally spent just as much time troubleshooting it as you did actually using it. But I think this really solves that pain point. And like, I guess that's really only possible with Orgo, right? Like unless you had some super complex setup, like whether locally or whether on like a VPS that would probably take a ton of time and know how to configure, like Orgo, this kind of what makes that possible, is that right? Exactly. Like, yeah, that's exactly right. Like you, you could set up, you know, these Hermes agent on a, on a VPS or on a, on a, you know, another virtual Cloud computer. But like no one has really made it super easy to manage like fleets of these agents. So that's a use gate. Like that's, that's what Orgo is built for is like if you're, if you're deploying agents as a service, then it makes sense to do it on Orgo. Like if you just, if you just wanted like your own standalone, like single Hermes agent, probably not the tool for you, like is that, is that fair to say? Yeah. Like if you want to set up a single Hermes agent, like you could use Orgo, but it's really meant to be for like teams and agencies and like software companies. Like let's say you want to, let's say you want to make an app for one click Hermes for solar, the solar industry. You could literally do it all with Orgo. We have all our APIs, all the docs and everything so that everything that's a functionality within Orgo in terms of spinning up a computer, installing Hermes via the template or anything controlling the computer. You can do all of that access, all of that through our APIs and you can literally build an app so it's like one click solar panel, Hermes agent for, you know, solar panel industry. And you can just go take that, sell that as a product, I just app really. And yeah, I like to call it like the, you can create your own perplexity computer for your own industry, you know? So if you're familiar with perplexity computer, it's like, it's a super easy kind of out of the box open clawing away. It's not exactly like open claw, it's like 60% there, but you can do that for industry. And that's the valuable part because it's like the more, the riches are in the niches, the more specific of a workflow and problems that you can solve out of the box. I think that's just like, that's the opportunity. So yeah, you can see here, I have my clawed code managing my Orgo workspace and that computer we just spun up Hermes agent for Corey, it's running and it's all, it's ready to go. So, uh, and then yeah, and then like you said, so in this case, right, my clawed code is connected to all of my connectors. It has composed you as well. And if we were in a call right now and you're explaining to me your workflow and your, you know, problems that you need solved and this call was over and I'd have it in my granola, I could literally just ask my clawed code, hey, I just got down with this call with Corey, I need to build out this automation, this workflow and I want it, I want, I need to build it into a skill for his Corey, Hermes agent computer and I'm from here from clawed code, I could just do that. And it's like done for you, you know, it's like, it's insane. It's taken the transcript, like it's basically taking the client's own words from the transcript and saying, like, okay, this is the pain point. This is how they're currently doing the process end to end. Great, I had that context, let me turn it into a skill and then using the orgo mcp, they can basically port that skill over to the Hermes agent that's on the orgo computer and then now, like, I mean, theoretically within 10 minutes of you wrapping up that audit call with your client, you could have the V1 of the skill created, handed to Hermes already and ready to test. Exactly. Yeah, that's insane. So in one more thing, too, I want to mention for the audience. So obviously, we're talking about orgo, Nixacov founder at orgo. He's put together a, is it a discount code? Is it, what do we have for the audience if they want to go try out orgo themselves? So everyone can get started. You can use code Corey. It's just Corey's name, CO or UI. And you'll get your first three days for free at checkout. You just type in the code, Corey, you'll get the first three days for free. You'll get 20% off the first three months and you can try out orgo, give it a shot, get your first customers on there, start making money. And yeah, we're just excited to see what everyone builds on top of it. We're going to be doing a lot of work. He just launched as well. So have you ever heard Corey when people say, "Oh, like, open clot is going to destroy open clot and clot is going to destroy hermys and no one's going to use these anymore." Have you ever heard that argument? Yeah. So what's interesting is with Orgo, you don't really care how you solve the problem. You see here, this is a Windows computer I have right here. You can see I was talking to the agent over here. It's like, we have our own manness. And in this Windows computer, I can install my clients' codex. I can install my clients' clod code in even managing their codex for them and setting up skills for them because the customer, these businesses, you think that they know what an MCP is, they don't know, they don't have time to set that up. So even if you just manage that for them and you use the Orgo Windows computers to do that, because you can download the desktop app for clod, you can download the desktop app for codex and set up the connectors for them and set up the skills for them. And then on their account, when they open up their computer and they open up their codex, it syncs through the cloud because the connectors and skills they do that. Like, if you just do that for them, that's huge. Like, they love that. So I think that's like another thing that's unique with Orgo is like, "Okay, it's one thing to get set up with clod codex or clod code on your own computer." The beauty of Hermes and OpenClod was like, "Oh, now you can do this for other people via VPS." But even beyond that, setting up clod code and opening up his codex for other people, you just to not be able to really do it because it required to be on their computer. And now you can do it by just setting it up on an Orgo computer. So that's-- >>Yeah. >>And that solves a big pain point. My business partner was talking about last week. We've had to turn down-- like, we've had people come to us, like you said, and they want us to literally install clod codex, into in for them, onboard it for them, put in a couple of skills, et cetera. And it's like, we've done that before on a call with the client, like walking them through it, but that's a pain in the ass and you always run into roadblock, and it takes-- >>Yeah. >>5 times longer than you expected to. And he was like, well, for us to do it for them, like, they would literally have to set up team viewer on their computer, and we'd have to go and-- like, that would be a pain, but again, Orgo pretty much solves that pain point and makes it to where we can-- you can offer done for you co-work installations or done for you clod code installations or done for you codex installations. So that's a little different than, like, a managed Hermes or a managed open claw, but it's the same concept. And you could easily charge, you know, a 5 to 10K setup fee for that, and a monthly retainer to either, you know, build X amount of new skills per month or to maintain it for them or to just be on call to troubleshoot it if they run into any issues. Like, that's almost like a hybrid of our AI concierge offer where it's like, hey, for, you know, X amount of money per month, I will set up your codex or your clod code or your co-work, and I will be there to basically walk you through anything related to it on a, you know, six business hour SLA via my, my, my Orgo computer. So it just-- Exactly. So many directions you can go with this. Yeah, it's like, your creativity is, you know, it's the limit of your creativity, honestly. Like, over here, I wanted to show this to-- when you spin up a Hermes template in Orgo, and you type in Hermes model here in the terminal. By the way, you can SSH into this computer so like, I can run from my own computer. I can just connect to this computer. So if I want to use my own terminal, I can do that. I don't have to be over here in the web app. But I'll go ahead. I'll set this up. So I'll do the, the news research portal. This is the company mimics Hermes agent. There's copy. This link real quick. I'll go here, paste it in. I'll authorize it. And I just wanted to show how, once I have these credentials and auth connected to this agent, obviously, it'll-- okay, log in successful, cool. And then I can go here. I can select my model. I always use GPD 5.5. I think it's pretty efficient for-- oh, an open call on Hermes. And so now that's set up. And so if I type in Hermes here, it's all set up. It's going to get connected. Okay, say, hey, and we're off to the races. And so that was super quick and easy. And what we can do-- That's a 26 second Hermes installation. I literally counted it. And so I think, yeah, that's that ended of itself as value. It's insane. This used to take forever. This used to actually take forever. Like, okay, I got to give VPS. Spend it up. Takes a few minutes. Install the agent. Get it all connected to all the connectors. Compose yourselves. So now it's super easy. And here's the cool part. If I made a templated snapshot-- like, okay, I'm going to set up Corey's Hermes agent. I'm going to set it up to be general in the sense of all the skills I give it. It's going to solve problems for-- I don't know. These law firms is an example. We're going to solve matrimonial law firms and their problems. And we're going to give skills to do that. OK, we need bait stamping. We need demand letter, skill generation, so on and so forth. And then once I have that golden snapshot set up without any kind of customer specific details so that I can kind of templatize it, I can clone this computer. And guess what? I clone this computer. Everything comes over exactly one for one. Perfect replica. And even the-- everything as far as even the auth. So you saw I connected to my Hermes account. So it was-- use my LLMs credits for that. When I type Hermes in here, Hermes is still installed. This is a brand new computer. It's a clone. And it has my account still connected to it. So it's like, if you made the perfect snapshot for a Hermes agent, you could essentially productize it and just make infinite clones of it. And look, now it's already connected. Hey, and this is not the same computer as the first one. So we just cloned the first one. And it's already set up and ready to go. That's definitely how you'd productize that, right? And you know, you talk about kind of going back to the audit. Let's say you do-- let's say you do want to use that example, like matrimonial law firms. We have managed agents for matrimonial law firms. We have a good understanding of what the vast majority of them do. So we've got like these 10 or 15 skills that all of them could make use of. Well, to build those 10 or 15 skills the first time around, you do that audit, which would probably be a pretty in-depth audit with like a lawyer from one of those firms, for example. But you could have a voice agent that does the audit. You could spin up a voice agent, I assume, on an org or just in general, that is trained to just ask the right questions and ask deep questions for that ICP, right? And go to all those pain points. Yeah. From there, the voice agent is the one doing the audit. That's what we have a voice agent that does our audits. But the same concept can apply here as being the first step for the paid managed agent as well. Exactly. Oh, that's such a good point, actually. He just gave me an idea of-- I should really just make kind of scheduled tasks that every time I get off a call with a customer, and obviously they're going to tell me what they want. What am I doing? I should just have my cloud code on scheduled tasks, be auto implementing these upgrades to these agents in the fleet. Yeah. So you could actually do that. So yeah. So that's in terms of getting set up, that's pretty much the stack. Hermes agent, Composio, Orgo. I like Agent Mail. Have you used Agent Mail? I'm familiar with it. I haven't used it. And that's what agentmail.com or. Yeah. And that just gives your AI agent their own email inbox. Is that right? Yeah. And that's nice, because it's something nice to be said about having your agent have its own email. It just feels right. It's the same way it has its own computer. It's like it has its own email. And then I actually do use Agent Phone. And now there's Agent Card. I'm going to get set up with Agent Card. OK. I'm going to do all that. So that's kind of the stack. And then I guess as far as the last step-- so guys, it's so important. I don't know about you, Corey, when you set these things up, but when it used to be a really big problem, it would go down a lot in the early days of open claw. These days, it's nowhere near that level of inconsistencies. And a lot of that comes down to we have watch dogs in place. So whenever a customer has a cron job that, especially as a very important cron job or a scheduled task that they need to rely on, you should have a watch dog set up in place to make sure that whenever that goes down for whatever reason or whenever something that is bound to potentially break, like maybe they run out of credits. Any kind of thing that could go wrong, you want a watch dog in place so that you get emailed about it before it happens so that your customer doesn't have to tell you about it. Because you just want to make sure-- once again, you're managing this agent for them. They shouldn't be the ones to tell you when things break. You should be alerted before them. And then you should go in and fix it. And you can use the Oregon agent to go in and solve the problem for you or use Cloud Code to do it. So that's just a really big point. I wanted to mention. is always implement watch dogs on the very important like reliability tasks that your customer will have. And then you look so good. You look so good when you tell them about their problem before they even notice it. Okay, by the way, your agent went down for 10 minutes but we were on top of it, we already fixed it. This is just an FYI. They're going, wow, I didn't even realize. Like that, okay, yeah, that's what I'm paying them five grand a month for. Like that's exactly what it kind of reiterates their decision to keep paying you. I don't know if you've also had this too, Corey, of like a lot of these business customers, B2B is also like really fun because like I've flown out, a lot of our customers are in New York and I've flown out to New York to meet them in person even. And like a lot of this AI managed service kind of opportunity. If you're good with people, like they will, they will, they will trust you so much, they will just want to work with you because you're the guy, you're the guy. Like, and I think that no one talks about this, but like if you could just be, okay, you're good at AI, you're a good communicator, and you get along with your customers. Like I don't know, I just, that just came to mind just now in terms of like, I think that's super important. And so in terms of like churn risk or anything like that, you really are becoming a part of the team when you implement these agents for these companies and these businesses and they really start to depend on you a lot and you start to drive a lot of outcomes in their business even maybe more so than a lot of their own employees because you have so much leverage from the agents and they associate the agents with you and it's like, it's kind of incredible. So I just say that. Completely agree, 100%. Yeah, I think it's a, it's a, it's a cool feeling. And I guess one thing in terms of setting up these managed agent token usage wise, I use a codex subscription now. I give each customer their own 200 a month plan. They don't really run out of it honestly. If I see one customer potentially might, they'll just get them another codex plan. Have two. Yep. So yeah, I think that's like the way to do it. And then yeah, I guess as far as last other things, I mean, that's really pretty much the whole stack. So, and just to go back to the math real quick, right? So you have that last box like 10 clients equals 50K MRR, which is run entirely by one person in agents, right? And some people might look at that and be like, you know, oh, that's an exaggeration. Like that's, that's not realistic. And if anything, I think it's incredibly realistic, right? And when you talk about 10 clients, right? Obviously, this is a higher ticket service. So you don't need hundreds of clients to make this work. And if you are doing the things that you mentioned in the like, how to find clients box up there. If you're posting content, if you're talking to people, if you're, you know, posting client wins, you're getting testimonials, you're getting case studies, you're asking for referrals. If you're just doing all the basic sales motions required to sell a service, then 10 clients in a year, you're talking about what, one every six weeks, like literally one client, one new client every six weeks on average. I mean, when you break it down like that, that's not unrealistic. So within a year of getting one client every six weeks, you're going to be a 600 grand a year in AR. Right? And your margins, I mean, you have in the box there, like 85% gross margins, probably even higher than that, like probably 90% gross margins. So, you know, I say all that to say is like, is this easy? Well, no, because if it was, everybody would be doing it. Is it a simple business model at its core that any realistically competent person with drive could execute? Sure. But I mean, most people watching this, unfortunately, to say still won't take action, or they won't take action long enough and consistently enough to make it work. But that's the competitive advantage for the people like me and you, who like see this opportunity, we're locked in, we're posting content, we're, you know, we're grinding every day, and that's the opportunity. So true, dude. Like honestly, even when we first started running this offer, it was a little bit like risky. And I'm saying this to kind of emphasize the point of, you have to be willing to a, think long term. Right now, what we were thinking when we launched the offer of like unlimited tokens, unlimited agents, all this, it sounded crazy at the time, especially because open claw, when it first came out was like super expensive to run Opus for open claw, which was like the only model that was really good at it. And yeah, we didn't make money that first month of like total cost of tokens and then like even charging 5K a month, like we still didn't make money because it was that expensive. It was that expensive. But we knew that the models would get cheaper. And the cost of intelligence would go to zero. And then we would just capture the whole spread. And so like right now when it comes to margin, like, I don't have any problem paying. If, and we don't, you don't even have, this problem's already practically solved with the whole codex subscription plan. So it was actually quicker than I thought. But I wouldn't have a problem paying more for tokens or more for the cost of doing business for this sort of business model, even if it, even if I had to pay more, I wouldn't have a problem with it because the cost of everything is going, is going to zero. And so yeah, I just say all that to say, think long term, think about where the puck is going and how to like take advantage of that. So yeah. 100%. Well, Nick, this was awesome. And this is something that like we said in the beginning, somebody could take the X-caladral diagram, which we'll put in the description in the show notes below. They could take that, they could hand it to their Hermes agent or their OpenClaw or Claw code and have it in a couple of hours, running autonomously, build out the entire business plan, the whole infrastructure, build you a website, build your offer, build your marketing material, everything. So yeah, this has been, I think, really tactical stuff that people can implement right away. And then, guys, just another reminder, if you want to test out Orgo, which is what me and my business partner, Nick, are using for our managed agents and what we're using as the infrastructure for how we build this business. Because this is exactly what we're doing. We're focusing on a five grand a month lead gen, basically managed agent lead gen offer. That's what we're building right now. We're doing it on top of Orgo. So guys use the code Corey and that's, we'll have the direct link to Orgo with the code in the description as well. But that'll get you, I think you said what, three, your first three days free and then your first three months at 20% off. Yep, exactly. Okay, yeah, so that's a steal. So go use that and guys hit Nick up on social Nick. Where do you want people to follow you or where do you want to point people aside from? Yeah, I'm pretty active on, I try and post cool demos on Twitter. It's just my name. And then also, yeah, YouTube, I gotta start posting more content on this sort of kind of opportunity around the business, but also just how to set up these agents and how to do cool things with them. So yeah, feel free to give me a follow there. Corey, thank you. This has been great. And I'm excited to see what your audience, what everyone does with setting these things up and combining it with the audits. I think the audits are brilliant. I'm going to start doing the audits. So yeah, thanks for having me, man. Yeah, thanks for coming on and guys, we'll put links to all the Nick's socials and his profiles in the description and then the show notes. So thanks for watching and we will be back in a couple of days. Bye. Cheers.