1486 - Christina & Danny Enjoy Bathhouses Together, Couples Swaps, MMF Threesomes and More
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Shannon Maldonado, käsintehtyjä artesaanitua teitä myyvän lahjatavarakaupan perustaja, kertoo valinneensa Shopify-alustan sen helppokäyttöisyyden vuoksi. Hän perusti vuonna 2013 pyöräilyvarusteita valmistavan yrityksen ja arvostaa Shopifyn kykyä hallinnoida liiketoimintaa ilman teknistä osaamista. Dana puolestaan jakaa henkilökohtaisen tarinansa biseksuaalisuudesta ja panseksuaalisuudesta, alkaen teini-iän kokeiluista ja Craigslistin kautta tapahtuneista kohtaamisista. Hän kertoo ensimmäisestä anaalikokemuksestaan ja käynneistään kylpylöissä, joissa hän osallistui orgioihin. Dana määrittelee itsensä panseksuaaliksi, koska hän tuntee vetoa kaikenlaisiin ihmisiin sukupuolesta riippumatta. Hänen nykyinen kumppaninsa Christina kertoo olleensa kiinnostunut naisista nuoresta asti, mutta hänellä oli vain satunnaisia seksikontakteja ennen Danan tapaamista. He keskustelivat avoimesti biseksuaalisuudestaan ja päättivät sallia toisilleen kokemuksia muiden kanssa, mikä vahvisti heidän suhdettaan. Heidän ensimmäinen yhteinen vierailunsa kylpylässä johti ryhmäseksiin, johon osallistui jopa 20 miestä. Dana korostaa, että biseksuaaliset ihmiset voivat löytää onnellisia pitkäaikaisia suhteita, ja heidän avoin kommunikaationsa on avain onnelliseen suhteeseen.
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Like it was like, you don't really know what to do with yourself. But then it was like, and then it all just comes naturally. And I was like, okay, I feel like this is this is not bad at all. Like my mind state was like completely different of what my expectations were. So it was like, it was, it was fun going in there for sure. Okay. Well, we're going to get back to right at that position where you walk in. And I want details of what goes down what you see and all that stuff. But I first want your guys back story because obviously Christina, you had to know that he was into dudes. Dana, you had to have experience knowing that you were, you know, because you said you were very heavily involved in the gay community. So you had to know that you were into guys. So let me get your backstory first, Danny, of like when you knew you were into guys, how you labeled yourself, did you always know you were into both like all that kind of stuff? Why don't we start there? Okay. So it kind of goes pretty far back about 20 years when I was about 15 while me and my friends, you know, just experimenting. We would experiment when, you know, we'd go for sleepovers and stuff and it kind of started there. But we didn't know what we were doing. Was it like circle jerks or were you guys like blowing each other? Like what was going on? It was, it was circle jerks start. Yeah, absolutely. Like yeah. We, we gave each other head ones. Oh, I know. And that's it. Yeah. So that was a different experience. We were both kind of weirded out after we kind of didn't know. We kind of just turned away and kind of went back to playing on the trampoline or whatever it was we did. Yeah. Listen, I heard that story from guys a lot. I mean, it happens more than people think, right? At least guys know that it happens because plenty of guys hooked up with their guy friend in high school. I think sometimes it's like even sometimes guys that don't go on to do it anymore. It's just like they're young. There's no chicks around. They're fucking horny and their guy friend hooks them up. You know what I mean? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah, go on. Well, then I'd actually gone on Craigslist. Just interested. I found out about Craigslist personal and I ended up just kind of looking at pictures for weeks and weeks on end and. Guys. Yeah, I'm looking up big dicks and stuff like that. And then. And then one guy kind of caught my attention and he actually came and picked me up and we went back to his house and that was my first anal experience. So you bottomed? Yeah, I bought them. Yeah. Okay. And you were into that. Like you knew that going in that that's what you wanted to do. Yeah. After watching lots of porn and stuff, I was really interested in how it felt and what it would be like. How was it? It was my first time. It was kind of awkward and weird, but I really enjoyed it and I kept going back for more and I kept seeing that guy for another two years. And what was his deal? Do you know if he was like a married guy doing this on the DL or was he a single guy or was he a gay man? That was like in a relationship or single. Do you know his deal? Yeah. So he was in a relationship. He was a gay man in a relationship. Oh, okay. Okay. Cool. Okay. Cool. And then you were like, "Are you just a bottom? Did you like, did you experiment in other ways with him?" With him, no. I was just a bottom with him and I didn't top until maybe another five or six years later. Okay. Now, during this time while you're doing all that, we'll get back to Christina when you meet her and everything. But like, did you also know that you were totally into checks? Yeah. I had a girlfriend the whole time. Oh. Okay. Did she know what was going down? Absolutely not. Oh, I thought you were going to say absolutely. But the younger people, there's so much more open. I mean, here you are calling me with Christina there and she went to a bathhouse. So you are kind of open, right? But when you were younger, your first girlfriend had no idea that you were doing this on the DL. Exactly. No. Oh, my God. Crazy, right? Did you never call you? Yeah. Nope. Okay. Nope. Never called me. So now, what you consider yourself bisexual? How do you reflect? Well, like, if you had to label yourself, what label would you choose? For a long time, I would label myself as bisexual. Uh-huh. I feel like I'm more kind of pansexual. And what's the difference between you? What's the difference between pansexual and bisexual? So for me, uh, bisexual is like either like men or like women or both, right? And so like, if you would like both. Yeah. For pansexual from my understanding, I kind of have an attraction to almost any kind of person. Right. Like, the chemistry and whatnot. Right. Like, you don't see gender. It's kind of like if it was a trans woman or a trans man or a cis woman or a cis man, like you could get down with any kind of person. Correct. That's the difference. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Cool. So when did, so none of your girlfriend at that time didn't know how, like, how long have you and Christina been together? About a year and a few months. Okay. So let me ask this before Christina, did you have like, were you going to bathhouse and all that kind of stuff, right? You were doing all that yourself? Yes. And now was this all in the DL by yourself? Well, like did you meet guys there and had friends or did any of your friends now or was this a secret life that you were living? This was a completely secret life that nobody knew, no family, no friends, nobody. Oh my God. Would people have been surprised if they knew that this is what you were doing on the DL? In the last six months, it's kind of opened up to lots of my family finding out and everybody is so surprised. Right, because everybody has an idea on their head of like what the guy that's into guys is like and they always think he's like super feminine or whatever, right? And that's not the fucking truth, right? At all. No, absolutely not. No, definitely not. Yeah. Do you remember your first time at a bathhouse? I mean, it's kind of ballsy of you at such a young age because you're like in your 20s right going to bathhouses by yourself? Yeah. I know. Yeah, I do remember my first time. Yeah. There wasn't, it wasn't crazy. I kind of just went in there to check it out and just see like what it was like. I think I'm pretty sure I remember I only gave head and I got head a couple times and then I left. Uh-huh. But I kept going back and I did everything you can think of there. Oh my God. I've heard stories. Okay, it's crazy shit can go down there, correct? Depending on the night. Correct. Yeah, like I've had orgies with 10 guys there. Oh my God. 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Well, how does she know about everything and why did you decide to be honest with her? So in the last, I'd say a couple of years, I did some like deep inner thinking like soul searching kind of thing and realized like I'm not going to be the happiest. I'm going to be if I don't come clean 100% to my partner. And I've had instances with past girl friends where they suspect something and then it's just arguments and arguments and arguments. And I'm always trying to stay on the DL but it's just never works. They were very judgmental about super judgmental. Well, did you ever tell them the truth or do they a couple? Yeah, two of them I did tell the truth and they took it like I was the worst person on earth. Really? Yeah, most disgusting worst like they call me the names and like it was it got bad. So I was really nervous to come out to Christina but when I did, she actually mentioned to me first that she was bisexual way early when we started first dating. So it kind of gave me a little bit of like showcase. So she's more open-minded. Yeah, I really do think for bisexual men and women, the best partner is another bisexual person. Don't you think? 100% I think that. Yeah, they understand. Exactly. And they're going to understand you they're not going to be judgmental. I'm surprised and I give you credit for the fact that even after you got trashed when you were honest about something so vulnerable, you know, that's like a scary thing to put out there when you really care about someone. And then when they come back at you so negatively, I'm surprised that you were like, I don't really care. I'm still going to be truthful, which I think is great, you know, but probably yeah, like I don't want to have like hiding a second life all the time. And I do want to like get my experience that like you know what I mean? Like everybody has needs. I do want my needs met. I want her needs met. I told her like when we started talking about like that we're into other the other genders, I told her that like if she ever wanted to have like a girlfriend, she's totally with more than like I don't mind at all. Right. So let Christina, let me hear from you now. When did you realize that you were into girls? Because you went into the relationship with Danny knowing that you were into girls and you let him know that you were by. So what was what's your backstory with women? Well, I've always kind of been like into women ever since I was younger, but I didn't really like can I experience things when I was younger as well, but as I grew older, I never like had a full-on like female relationship. Like obviously I went on dates and did all that kind of thing, but it was it was like I never got to have the full experience, but at the same time I wasn't really looking for that full experience. Like I always had like a male partner and everything. Oh, but when you say a full experience, do you, are you saying like emotions and stuff, but you would just have sacks? Yeah. Yeah. It was just, yeah, I was just straight like hookups and stuff like that. Right. I never had like an emotional and relationship with women and everything. So I never got that emotional kind of feeling for them, but when Danny and I got into like our relationship, we never, we didn't talk about it for quite some time. You didn't tell him, because you were the first person to put it out there, right? You didn't let him know. Well, like, yeah, it wasn't really needed to being set or anything like that. And then we're kind of talking about it. We were driving. I think we were heading to the pet store. It was like the most random time to talk about it. And we were going to, we were just driving and talking and then it came up and I was like, yeah, like I do like I've had experiences before, like how about you? And then it blew up and like we we talked more and more and more about it. And it ended up being a really, really good conversation. And we like opened up about both of us. And it was like a really hard to heart conversation. And it was, it was honestly like it was breathtaking. The conversation. Yeah. Like it was, it was like, wait, lift it off your shoulders because then it was like, okay, well, I don't have to hide my true self. And then he didn't have to hide his true self. And you might be able to experience your true selves while being together, right? Like not just put it on the back burner, correct? Like because you were not only saying that this is what you want. You were both during that conversation, I would assume maybe saying that you would start, you discussed allowing each other to be with other people and stuff. Yeah, it was, and like it was completely open because like we are, when we talk about I was like, you know what, I would, I'd be down to watch and like, you know, join in. And he's in the exact same boat and really, okay, well, you know what, this just opened up the whole new level in our relationship because like when I was pregnant, like our sex life went completely down. And then we had this conversation and it was like, we were trying new things, we were exploring new toys and like it was, it was honestly a lot of fun. And it was, it just opened up a whole new can of beans. And I was like, in a good way. Right, right. And because I think that you're always going to have your best sex when you're the most comfortable with someone. So there is probably an added level of intimacy between the two of you and connection that wasn't there before that is always going to make sex better, right? Oh my god. Yeah, like I've never been so like close to somebody throughout my entire life. I've never felt so connected and so close with someone where I can like be myself. He can be himself and still be like madly in love with each other. And it's, it's crazy. I never thought I'd be this in love with someone. Right. And that's the ideal place to be for sure. Yeah. And it's good to like the reason I have these kinds of stories on my show is to let people know that like, you know, listen, if you guys exist like this, other people like, as other people hope, yeah, who are by I listened to this one serious show and they have like one of the producers is bisexual and they're all and there's a vanilla people on the show, you know, celebrities, regular people and they're always making fun of the by guy telling him he has to pick one side. He's never going to get a relationship. Nobody will ever date him. And it's like, yeah, maybe in your fucking world, that's what you think. But in the real world, in my world, I talk to people all the time who are bisexual, who have a long-term relationship with other bisexual people or even straight people and they're happy and fine. And just because your bisexual doesn't mean you could, you can't find somebody to date, you know, three decades. Yeah. Yeah. Like it like a lot more people like if you're open minded, like I feel that like I never ever have to worry about him cheating on me or like talking to someone behind my back. Like he is so open and like I'm so open. And like we talk about crushes and like, you know, past and everything like that. And it's just, it's nice because we don't have to hide anything from each other. And I feel like that creates like a really big bond for us. For sure. Now, when you guys started talking like, did you guys, I mean, was the first step into things the bathhouse night that you guys had together? I know you had four sums and stuff like that. But I mean, like when you're starting to talk about the fact that you're buying your ball down, are you talking about like her whole game of what girls and you hooking up with guys? Or are you also talking about her hooking up with guys and you hooking up with girls and like everything's on the menu for the two of you guys? Well, I had mentioned to her. I'm like, we could we could go to a bathhouse. This would be a good place to go where we can both experience other genders together. I mentioned that to her because they have genders night said a lot of these bathhouses. And what's gender night? Meaning everybody's welcome, correct? Everybody's welcome. That's right. Yeah, so I also mentioned to you that
if she had any fantasies or if she had a certain type of guy, she's attracted to, I would be willing to allow her to try it out, but I do want to be there. I've got to be present in the moment kind of thing. Now, are you one of those guys that thinks that that could be hot to see her with somebody else? Did you know that about yourself? Were you maybe just saying that because you wanted to be open, but you didn't know how you would feel? Did you have any reservations? So I had never experienced watching my girl as another man before, but I've watched lots of videos and I was kind of into it. I kind of wanted to see if I would be into it. And when we went to the bathos for the first time and found the couple, we kind of just went all out. Like everything goes kind of thing. Oh my God. And it was more so in the moment we set boundaries before we even walked in there. Tell me what those were. So she didn't want me playing with girls. Okay. She wanted me just to play with guys if we were going to play with anybody. Uh-huh. And we weren't going to separate. Right. And it was the same thing with him. Like he didn't want me to play with guys like unless like we kind of both gave each other the okay is. Right, but you or did you think that there like, had you been on these gender nights before, Danny that you knew that girls would be there as well for Christina? Yeah, that's why I think that's the girl. She wants to be with girls and I know she hasn't had her needs met in years and years and years. So I was like, you know, I would put in, and I think it's super hot. If she was to play with a girl, I was like, no, I want to see that. I want to experience that with you. Right. And so I knew the genders nights would be a good place to start because she had fun a girl there most likely. Yeah. And now Christina, did you know that you would be into like, have you ever watched gay porn? Did you know that like seeing two guys together would turn you on? Or were you just like open to trying and you didn't know how you'd feel? Okay. So I was a little bit like I'm super like I was super vanilla before, before everything. And I didn't really watch porn like like that. Uh-huh. I mostly watched the female side. Yeah. So everything like once we did this, like it was all brand new. And then like we kind of we watched porn together and then we'll put the gay porn on my kid. This is I like watching him watch that. And it just turned me on. So it was like, you know what? Like what would be the difference of like watching my man do that in like real life. And I'll go, yeah. And I was like, I think I would enjoy it. So I was really open-minded to it. Like I didn't have any negative thoughts about it. So I was more so excited to see it like and be a part of it and watch it because like we've we've done stuff together. And I just I love doing it. Like I like using the toys and everything like that. And I don't know. Like it's a. She never peg the guy before and she's I was, we she started pegging me when she was pregnant and she found a whole new love for that. Right. Right. So imagining a guy do it to you. Like you were down like you're open to it. You didn't know for sure. But you were like you knew that you liked when you mocked it up. So maybe the real thing. So the so going into the bathhouse, you have the role like it. You're not going to fuck other people just the same sex. Now Christina, when you walk in there and you see all these people and everything because you know, Danny had been there before. He's a little bit of a professional. But for you, you've never been in a bathhouse. Was it like overwhelming? Were you super nervous? Were you turned on the minute you saw all these naked people? Was everyone naked? I don't even know. You tell me. Okay. 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And then we just like looked at each other, just started smiling and giggling, and then we kind of went back at it. - And how was this all for you, Danny? I mean, because the guy's not into guys, right? So you knew like you weren't hooking up with him, but you started to hook up with the other girl as well, correct? - That's correct, yeah. - Okay, go on, you guys. Whoever wants to tell me this rest, yeah. - Yeah, so when she asked you, she was like, just kiss her already, and then I started kissing her, and then she had told me to start eating her out. - Oh, so I was like, really? Okay, so I started eating her out, and then it just kind of progressed. We were all playing with each other. Me and him didn't play with each other, but we kept swapping the girls, the girls were playing with each other, and then I vaguely remember this one point where the girls stood up, and it was just Christina on the bed, and then me and the other guy, the other gentleman, we just went to town on Christina. We were spit roasting her, throwing her around in different positions, and then we got the other girl, and then we started doing that to her, and it just got wild. And then we would, we'd left that room, went out to their room, and then we, it was a bigger room, with mirrors on the walls and on the ceilings, and then we just started going to town there too. - Oh my God, was this couple hot? Were they around your same age? Like, what was their deal, do you know? - They're about the same age as us, and they're both pretty hot, yeah. - Wow, what a lucky night you guys got, right? I mean, is there typically couples at the, at the all gender nights? - So the Saturdays, when you go there on Saturdays, it's couples night, but genders are all genders welcome. So, but we went on a Friday night, which was, it was a gender night as well, like from six to close, it's genders. Genders night, so we went on the Friday night, we didn't go on a Saturday, but we still got satisfied. - But you still got lucky, you got really lucky, that's why. - Really lucky, yeah. - Yeah, it was quite the time. - Yeah, now, did you get to see him with a guy that night as well, Christina? Was there any guy on guy action for you, Danny, that night, or did you just play with the couple the whole time? - We just played with that couple, and there wasn't much, like, we kind of stuck with them, and then we got it, we had to kind of dip out of there pretty quick, like, we didn't realize we were there, we were there for like four hours, I think. - And it felt like we were only there for like an hour. It was like time, there's no sense of time there. Like, it was insane how quickly time flew, 'cause you're just having a great time. - Yeah. - So you had a great experience. - Yeah, we would have stayed longer and tried different rooms, 'cause there's also this room, what was it called? - The fuck room. - The fuck room. And he was telling me that there's like, what was it with that horse chair? - Yeah, there's like the different seating type chairs where like sex position chairs. It's like a black room with a black light, so like, people's outfits will like light up. And there's like stairs where the guys will stand and put their dick through the railings. There's like little holes. So there's be just dicks through railings holes everywhere. - Okay. - It's kind of like a good to experience that one and like, I really wanted to, but we had to, yeah, leave at a work time. But next time we go, I'm definitely wanting to go straight to that room. - Right, now is that the four of some that you had or did you have them after that? Did you continue to see that couple or what happened after? - We plan on seeing that couple again, but we haven't seen them since, but since then we've had about five other four of them since we saw them. - Okay. How did that happen? - Is that when you went on SDC or Reddit or whatever? I mean, how did other four of them come into play? - Yeah, SDC is one place we've looked. - I give out my code. I always give out my code, SDC. I don't do it as much as I used to, but I'm always pimpin' them out. I tried to find like an online dating, adult website to partner up with, just to hook up my people. And this is the one. People love SDC, right? I'm assuming you guys like it. - We do enjoy it. It can be a little scarce 'cause we're in the Northern Pacific area. - Yeah, I've heard, yeah, I've heard depending on where you live. But if you wanna try SDC, the good news is I can give people a three day trial, I think, or a week trial. I don't know what it is. It's a free trial. Use my code 37712 or go to the description and click on, like, get a free trial. So you guys, so did it? Was it after though this experience that you guys decided to put yourself up online, looking for more experiences like this? That's what I'm assuming. - Yeah, so after that bathhouse experience, then we kinda knew exactly what we wanted now. Like, she's experienced it. She knows how fun it is and she wasn't scared of it now. - Right. - So we've kinda put ourselves out there. We've kinda, we are into throttpoles or other relationships, but more so the guy for me, the girl for her, if that comes into it, like another couple would be ideal. - Right. - But yeah, so since then we've just kinda met some couples and we brought them over to our house and we just have some fun and then kinda from there, we just, we haven't met anybody that we see regularly. Okay, but you've had a bunch of forciums and cents. So let's talk about those. Let me ask you this though, because we still haven't had Christina experiencing seeing you with a guy. Have any of the couples, and we'll get more specific about them anyway, but overall, where any of the couples, did any of the couples have a by-guy in them? Okay, cool. So walk me through the couples, walk me through the next three couples. We still have like, you know, 25 minutes. - Okay, yeah, so one of the couples who came over, they were a nice older couple. - How much older than you guys? You guys are like in your 30s, right, early 30s? - And say at least 20 years older than us. - Okay, so in the 50s, and are they both by this couple? - Just the guy was by. - Okay, and you're okay with that Christina, 'cause you'll go in and hook up with the guy, right? - Yeah, yeah, it was, we talked about it before. Like we won't ever put each other into that awkward position and we always know when like something makes us uncomfortable where super open and communicating on things that we like and dislike. And if we don't like it, then it won't happen. But like we talk about it and we don't get mad at it, but it either. - But wait, you were both into the guy though, I would assume. - Yeah, we both, we both played with the guy. We like, we both gave him head at the same time, shared his dick. - Okay, well that's a big experience for Christina. Like Christina, so you meet this couple, they come over, they're like way older than you guys, right? The guy is by, and now I'm assuming you go in and like everything's on the table, except you're not gonna hook up with the woman, correct? Christina, right? 'Cause she's not by. - Yeah, so it was kind of a bummer on that. We didn't really know until like she was open, but then it was just not really, she kind of changed her mind. - Oh yeah. - So it was, but it was still fun. Like it was, like we've just traded basically with like a life swap kind of thing. - Yeah. - Which it was a good experience. And then we all played with him and like the other gentleman. So it wasn't bad. - How was doing a double blow job with your guy and then seeing him with the guy and all that kind? 'Cause this is the first time for you. - It was fun. Honestly, I really enjoy. I think it's hot as fuck. Like not gonna lie. Like it's definitely a really good experience. And it's a turn on. Like I never thought something like that would be such a turn on. But like he's opened my eyes to so many things. And like letting me try new things. And I was like, hey, like I wanna try this. He's like, okay, let's do it. And watching, like doing that with him is just, it's like a whole other, it's a whole other feeling of like it kind of brings our sex life up more because it's like he's open to trying things and he's open to letting me try things. - Right. There's no boundaries really. I mean, it's just so open. - Yeah. And like I really, like we, all of the stuff that we tried, like we talked about it, right? Like we're like, hey, well, like what would you be interested in doing? So like doing it like both of us on someone. And so like, okay, well, that was like the first thing. And it was, it was, it was a lot of fun. - Yeah, that's interesting. And I've heard that before from many women. I remember Brooke Blaze talking about it. She's like a content creator with her guy who's like very alpha and totally into sucking dick and being with guys. And she said she was like, you know, she didn't know how she'd feel before she experienced it. She wondered and she worried 'cause her guys like super alpha and she loves that type of guy, you know, and she was nothing but fucking turned on by it when she, you know, she was surprised and she totally digs it, you know, and it just made her more attracted to him. So that was your, and now we're all the other, where the other two couples, the guy by as well, or were the girls by two? Like tell me those other two couples and the experience with both of them separately. - So most of the, the other couples we had come over, the girl wasn't by Chris. - Oh, you're kidding. So Christina, you haven't had another girl yet. Since the bathhouse girl. - No. - No. - And the bathhouse girl, she lives far away too. She doesn't live here. - So, okay, so that's why you haven't had that. - But we have her contacts. So whenever she comes here quite often, so when she comes here, she'll contact us and everything. - Okay, so walk me through the second couple, the one that, now were the other two couples, though let me ask you this, the other two couples were both of the times the guy by as well. - Yes. - Okay, exactly. - Okay, and so what was the second couple like? - It was, honestly, they both, the next two couples were kind of boring. - Yeah, just tell me what was boring about them. Like what makes a boring couple in a force them? 'Cause like I sometimes think that are sitting home alone, okay, that I've never had a fucking force them. They'd be like, how could a force them be boring? But you tell me. - Right, well, because on their end, it was their first time. - Okay. - And it was really, really, really, really, really, really,
really awkward and slow going and wouldn't kind of get into it. Like, no, they weren't really open-minded to it. They were just kind of trying it out and experiencing it and one guy wasn't into it at all. What do you mean? Like what was he? He didn't want me giving him head. He didn't want me touching him, which was totally fine. He was just interested in Christina, which is fine. So that was okay, but she wasn't interested in him. Oh no. That's not a good catch. Yeah. So all of us were kind of just in an awkward state that we're just naked on a couch and kind of giving him head a little bit. It was what she was doing and then he kind of fucked her for like 10 minutes and then it was done. What was his wife doing the whole time? Where is his girl? His girl was kind of just sitting there as well. She wasn't really interested. She wasn't really like, I don't think she really wanted to come and like, do I think this was more of the partner's idea and like seeing, oh, let's test it out and stuff like that. Right. You could always tell. Yeah. And it kind of just threw the vibe off. You know, like everyone needs to be like excited and like open-minded and just like wanting to get involved and like having the experience, but it was just, yeah, it was, it was a little bit awkward. How old were they? Everybody in their 40s, maybe 10 years older than us. Okay, but they were newbies so it wasn't that great. So the second couple, same thing, what happened specifically with them that made it so lame? Honestly, it was pretty much the exact same situation. You're kidding. You're kidding. Like, no, it was almost to a tee how similar it was. There was both trying it for the first time. Once the guy wasn't into guys at all, the girl wasn't into girls at all. And it seemed like the guys just wanted to come play with Christina. And that's what the only thing they were somehow convinced their partner. They just wanted to mess with another girl. Wow. But maybe use it an excuse that we're all doing this together kind of thing. I don't know. I just seemed kind of awkward. Yeah, that is weird. And what was the partner do? What was the woman in that relationship doing? She was okay with like just going there and pretending she was there for Christina just to watch her guy try to hook up with Christina. Well, she, we, me and her started playing a little bit, but she just didn't seem into it. Like she ended it by halfway through. She's like, "K, I'm done." Oh, God. What did I do? And now I was like, "Okay, so me and her just kind of sat there waiting for Christina and him to finish." Right. I guess for him to finish because Christina, once the vibe was off, Christina was not into it. She was like, "No, I'm kind of bored." Yeah, I can imagine. How do you get out of those kinds of things? Like, how do you get those couples out of your house? Or where are you meeting them? I don't know why I'm assuming you're at your house. Like, where is this going down? At our house. Yeah. Oh, you were at your house. Okay, so how do you get them to fuck out after that awkward experience? Well, they kind of wanted to leave too. Anyway, I just meant, like, I don't know who's the person that raises their hand and like makes that happen, but everybody secretly wants to just fucking get out of there, right? I think it wanted to be like, "Let's fucking get out of here. I just would say it, I don't care." It's like, we were all waiting for the guy to finish once he finished. Both times, he's with they both left. Oh, thank God. I just used my partner as a bag of meat for 10 minutes. Oh, my God. I mean, sometimes these are learning experiences, right? You start to really learn, you know, stuff about this world, right? And everybody learns different ways, you know? I mean, you had a great first-for-some with that first couple. You were lucky. I mean, that was like ideal. Everything just sort of reloaded. And then you were like, hit with reality like, oh, look at like the opposite of that is what you experience two times. And I've talked to plenty of new B-couples that have had those kinds of very awkward experiences. Unfortunately in the lifestyle, there's so many women they call it like buy for their guy, right? Like the first woman, they'll pretend they're into girls, but they would just do it for the guys. Maybe she'd chickened out. And they're just not really into it and vice versa, you know? So you get that kind of nonsense. But what are you guys looking for now? We're kind of open right now, but I kind of want to have like a friends with benefits with a guy. And I know she does too. So we're kind of looking for a girl. For me a guy for her a girl. Oh, okay. And then we're kind of looking for a couple that's like a bisexual couple that we can see regularly. Right. So that you could have the same kind of experience with the first couple, meaning that everybody could hook up with everybody, correct? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Now in your time of looking for this, is it something new that you've been looking for or have you been looking for a while? Is it hard to find or did you just start looking for these kinds of things? It's been about three months, I'd say about three months since we've been actively looking for like another couple. The bike couple. And how hard is that to find? I would think for hard. It's difficult because like, yeah, it's actually a lot of single men coming at us. I can imagine. We like, we bring them over. We had a really fun three. Some of them about a week ago with another male. Okay. I want to tell me about that. Yeah. He was he was into both girls and guys. And we both had a lot of fun with him. It was really fun. Okay. So that was a good experience. And listen to some people wind up modifying what they want because of some one thing is more easier than another, you know. Maybe it'll be easier to find single women and single guys. And then maybe if you find a single guy and a single woman separately, you could bring them all together. It's kind of what we've talked about too. Like, if we can't find another couple that's on the same level as us, we'll find two single people and bring them together. Yeah, especially because what you're looking for, if you're both looking for, you know, long-term booty calls of the same sacks, you know, then maybe you could all sort of hang together as well. That would be like the couple's swap. So that guy experience, like, did you do everything the same way? Like, did he fuck your Christina too? Like Christina, you fucked that guy and you guys both fooled around with him as at the same time. Yeah, that's right. And I topped him while he was eating Christina out. How was that for you, Christina? That view. It was good. Like, it was, I was kind of bent in a weird way because we're on the couch. Like, is that's where it started? And that's where it ended. But I was like, we have an L coach. It was kind of a weird position, but it was great. Like, no matter where you sit and look good. Now, okay, so you're looking for the single hookup right now. When you say a friend, like a friend's a benefit, you guys aren't poly, right? You're not looking for relationships. You're just looking for hookups of the same sacks, correct? Well, we're kind of open. We have, we've talked about the polyramorous thing. We'd be open to try it. As long as we stick within our boundaries, then yeah, like we'd be open to try like a relationship type thing. But we don't really want to bring anybody into like, like another parent figure into our child's life. Yeah. It'd be mostly just for us. Uh-huh. Kind of thing. So it's kind of complex, I guess, but we'd be open to try a polyamorous type of thing. So if it would to go further, you're open to it or you think you would be. Yeah, we think so. We'd have to try it first. Right. Yeah. It gets complicated, especially you're, you still have a young child in the house, right? That's right. Yeah. She's less than a year old. So it actually gets really hard to be able to go out and try and find and look for these people and even play with them. Yeah. And then if you add a relationship on top of it, it's hard enough you're taking care of your own relationship. Plus having sex with all the other people. Plus you put a relationship with other people on top of it. And now you got like four babies. You just, I just, yeah. We don't want to go out and get into it. We don't want to have an infant. I know. It gets complex. So we're just kind of going with the flow. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, we're still happy. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like you guys are like you, you're, it's more, not, it's not really like intentionally being poly. You're just like you're, you're, you're, you're intention is just to be open and see where anything goes and not really create any kind of boundaries with each other. That's what it sounds like you're more open to, right? Exactly. Yeah. Then specifically being poly. It's more like if that naturally happened, you know, you'd be down. Both of you, correct? Are you two Christina? Yes. For sure. Like we wanted to go and try out like the couple, like what is it? The key to the resort. Yeah. Yeah. We wanted to go experience those kind of events and stuff like that and see how those we go because I feel like we would find kind of what we would be suited for. Yeah. For sure. With that. And, uh, oh, there's so many things you could do and try. Yeah. And like we're not, we're not closed off to it and everything. So it's just like we're just kind of taking as it comes, like we're not like forcing it. We're just going with the flow and just like vibing with everything and being just, just us and like if it pops up, then we'll have that great experience. Who does most of the vetting of the couples online? Are you both looking at people together? Uh, well, it's on his phone and then we are sit there together and then like if we vib, we vib and like if not, we'll just kind of, but it's like here and there kind of thing. It's mostly him, for sure. Right. Right. And so you're, and you're also
on reddit correct me people on reddit uh. we haven't met anybody on reddit but i we've had many conversations with people on reddit and there seems to be more available on reddit then stc it is a big look up please i got to tell you i was very surprised to find out there that there's this whole place on reddit all over in every area uh. where people could like hook up with other people in their area on reddit which i would never even think exists but that's a thing i was blown away myself yeah i was like as if reddit got this section like that's crazy yeah how do you find it like you put in your place and put in hookups like how do you even find the place in your area where there's like fucking people dating and looking for hookups well i saw on the facebook group that like i'm part of a facebook group uh. just popped up about like some someone hooking up with another person on like on a reddit was just like a post on facebook yeah i didn't realize that reddit had anything like that so then i started looking on reddit and just looking up different groups and like look at it gives her even is it like horn on here and i saw that that boom there's all this crazy porn i was like so this to read it has everything then so i just started looking up different groups like swingers groups and swingers clubs and all this type of stuff and then there's like a whole dating section groups just for people to hook up in so now we're part of like a hundred different groups you're kidding and you put in and you get specific on reddit right like you could put in those places but then put in where you live and then you're going to hone it down correct exactly yeah correct so you put in like uh. the all that i don't even know why don't you want to give a shout out to your reddit i i always try to hook people up on my show you can or you don't have to if you don't want to uh. i don't even know remember what my name is on there that's okay well listen when you get off when we hang up okay and i'm gonna wrap it up now you're going to get free access to my discord maybe you'll hook up with people in there people are going to love you young couple open by i have a big audience over my discord there's a lingerie contest coming up right now everyone's doing the winter gets one fifty second place gets fifty bucks so you could uh. christina you could put yourself in there if you want what's great about this course you could post your own stuff and people in there get x rated i mean my discord is like anything goes probably like what you find deep down in reddit you know over there so you could put yourself up on my discord you'll get free access to that and when your episode errors you could put picks of yourself but do me a favor and send me our rated picks if you can if you want to from a patreon like for my patreon i always say like a photo girl pictures that's like lingerie but safe lingerie or like a bikini shot if you want to then you'll get free access for a month for my patreon to see the comments here episode but maybe you'll hook up with people on my discord and then you'll have to come back on i mean you guys just started but you have a super interesting story you know and i feel like you've done a lot considering this just happened in the last couple months right? we're right exactly which it's something we're not going to just throw out the door like we're not just going to stop because we're both how do you stop what exactly we don't know how i don't think you can stop i mean sometimes it's kind of like okay where do you go if you're a start at the top of the mountain you know what i mean like then where's there going only downhill i remember one person one saying oh when you start at the top you could only go down but i mean i feel like you're at the top of a mountain but there's so much more to experience especially because of how open you are like you said your lifestyle resorts maybe finding a swing or a club you know doing some parties house parties like more you know meeting more people online and eventually meeting a great couple you know we're getting your booty calls i mean you guys are open to trying so many different things so i feel like there's so much more for you to you know experience a hundred percent like we're starting at the top of the mountain but we're jumping off the mountain and learning how to fly exactly oh my god we'll fly back here in a you know in a year and give me a we'll do a part two and hear your stuff but go join my discord and join us Christina and Danny make sure you put that as your name so people know who you are when your episode airs but this episode will be up really soon thank you i love your story it's super interesting thank you so much for calling us now thanks for calling in and go sign up for my dessert by the way you'll see the link when you get my countly link my countly like you know thing will send you a thank you email automated it's going to go out after we hang up it's the discord link the free discord link is in that email okay so make sure to look at that and that's where you'll get the link to sign up okay okay sweet thank you so much guys bye bye bye [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
- Shannon Maldonado perusti käsintehtyjä artesaanitua teitä myyvän lahjatavarakaupan ja valitsi Shopify-alustan sen helppokäyttöisyyden vuoksi.
- Shopify tarjoaa kaikki myyntityökalut, kuten varastonhallinnan, yhdessä hallintapaneelissa.
- Shannon aloitti pyöräilyvarusteita valmistavan yrityksen vuonna 2013 ja arvostaa Shopifyn mahdollisuutta hoitaa liiketoimintaa ilman teknistä osaamista.
- Dana kertoo kokemuksistaan miesten kanssa, mukaan lukien ensimmäiset seksikokeilut teini-iässä, Craigslistin käyttö ja käynnit kylpylöissä.
- Dana määrittelee itsensä panseksuaaliksi (ei biseksuaaliksi), koska hän tuntee vetoa kaikenlaisiin ihmisiin sukupuolesta riippumatta.
- Christina kertoo olleensa kiinnostunut naisista nuoresta asti, mutta hänellä oli vain satunnaisia seksikontakteja naisten kanssa ennen Danan tapaamista.
- Dana ja Christina keskustelivat avoimesti biseksuaalisuudestaan ja päättivät sallia toisilleen kokemuksia muiden kanssa, mikä vahvisti heidän suhdettaan.
- Heidän ensimmäinen yhteinen vierailunsa kylpylässä johti ryhmäseksiin, johon osallistui jopa 20 miestä.
Summary:
Shannon Maldonado, käsintehtyjä artesaanitua teitä myyvän lahjatavarakaupan perustaja, kertoo valinneensa Shopify-alustan sen helppokäyttöisyyden vuoksi. Hän perusti vuonna 2013 pyöräilyvarusteita valmistavan yrityksen ja arvostaa Shopifyn kykyä hallinnoida liiketoimintaa ilman teknistä osaamista. Dana puolestaan jakaa henkilökohtaisen tarinansa biseksuaalisuudesta ja panseksuaalisuudesta, alkaen teini-iän kokeiluista ja Craigslistin kautta tapahtuneista kohtaamisista.
Hän kertoo ensimmäisestä anaalikokemuksestaan ja käynneistään kylpylöissä, joissa hän osallistui orgioihin. Dana määrittelee itsensä panseksuaaliksi, koska hän tuntee vetoa kaikenlaisiin ihmisiin sukupuolesta riippumatta. Hänen nykyinen kumppaninsa Christina kertoo olleensa kiinnostunut naisista nuoresta asti, mutta hänellä oli vain satunnaisia seksikontakteja ennen Danan tapaamista.
He keskustelivat avoimesti biseksuaalisuudestaan ja päättivät sallia toisilleen kokemuksia muiden kanssa, mikä vahvisti heidän suhdettaan. Heidän ensimmäinen yhteinen vierailunsa kylpylässä johti ryhmäseksiin, johon osallistui jopa 20 miestä. Dana korostaa, että biseksuaaliset ihmiset voivat löytää onnellisia pitkäaikaisia suhteita, ja heidän avoin kommunikaationsa on avain onnelliseen suhteeseen.
FAQs
Parasta on, että liiketoimintaa voi harjoittaa ilman teknistä osaamista, ja kaikki myyntityökalut, kuten varaston suunnittelu, ovat helposti saatavilla dashboardissa.
He keskustelivat asiasta autossa matkalla lemmikkieläinkauppaan, ja se johti avoimeen ja rehelliseen keskusteluun, joka vahvisti heidän suhdettaan.
Hän meni vain katsomaan paikkaa, antoi suuseksiä ja sai sitä muutaman kerran, ja lähti sitten pois.
Hän oli aluksi hermostunut, koska aiemmat kokemukset olivat olleet negatiivisia, mutta Christina osoittautui avarakatseiseksi ja ymmärtäväiseksi.
Dannyn mukaan biseksuaalisuus tarkoittaa vetovoimaa miehiin ja naisiin, kun taas panseksuaalisuus tarkoittaa vetovoimaa mihin tahansa ihmiseen riippumatta sukupuolesta.
Hän teki syvällistä itsetutkiskelua ja tajusi, ettei voi olla onnellinen, jos ei ole täysin rehellinen kumppanilleen.
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