110 - One Jackie, Two Jackie, Red Jackie, Blue Jackie

I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass and I'm all out of bubble gum. I'm going to give you audience what I think they want. They want chasing, they car crashes. They want the cops to bend the rules to get the job done. They want the boy to get in trouble. They want the good guy to win. They want the bad guy to die. Hopefully in the biggest explosion the fraud you will allow the most importantly senator. They want to walk into a theater for 90 minutes. Forget the fucking mess that you have left of this nation. They'll get your bubble gum. You be kind, motherfucker. Hello and welcome back to the All Out of Bubble Gum podcast. This week I am joined by Alberto. Hello, how are we all doing everybody? I'm doing fine. Today we'll be discussing twin dragons from 1992, starring Jackie Chan and Jackie Chan. So are your thoughts on twin dragons just like right off the bat? I used to just think it was a good movie because I had seen it. I don't know like a decade ago. I thought hey, this is good. I mean it's no police story 3 but it's a good one. But rewatching it now I'm like oh, they have, yeah this car does go hard. Yeah I love this one from the start. This is probably probably my third favorite Jackie Chan movie after police story 1 and drunken master 2. I loved it from the start. It's just such a fun movie. That's a good way to describe it. It's a fun movie. It's just Jackie Chan doing what he does best. Oh yeah. I mean you get the stunts, you get the, you know, you know, he just, in provisional weaponry, you know, just, I will environmental weaponry that he's famous for. I mean he's using all sorts of stuff in this one. You get the slapstick comedy, you get the situational, you know, sort of slapstick situations you get some stuff in. I mean it's all there. It's just no Sambo or you, you'll be in. I just say you and be you but I really don't know. You and be you. Yeah. I mean everyone gets his name wrong. So yeah. Yeah, it's not easy for an American to pronounce that name. Anyway, this is Jackie Chan's double impact. Like, or just a John Claude van movie in general because John Claude van Damned does a ton of movies where he plays beside himself. Anyway. Oh, but. Let's not ignore the fact that this was directed by Ringo Lam and Sue Hark, who also both of whom worked with Jean Claude. Oh, that's right. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, I think Sue Hark did knock off and what is it, double impact? I can't remember. Double team, yeah, I think a double team. Oh, that's it. That's the one, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting because I didn't think about that at all. And yet we have the JCVD influence coming in. Jackie Chan starring with Jackie Chan and it is awesome. I'm not sure what the plot was other than, you know, Jackie Chan playing beside Jackie Chan. But it's still so good. I can't resist this movie. The action scenes are on point. The humor is actually very funny and the pacing is just so fast. I mean, right off the bat, it does not waste any time. No, it does not. It starts off literally with a bang. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. The opening scene is like a couple with their newborn twins that immediately a guy who's a criminal shoots a cop and escapes and can ask one of the babies. That's like all in like the first half a minute. It is so good. Yeah, and they do the title drop. They're like, oh, yes, the twin dragons. Yes. And yeah, it's so fast pace, the whole thing. You'll never be bored watching this movie. Even if the plot is a little, what is the plot? I don't even know. Something about like, we'll get to that. Sort of like the, their identities get sort of like mixed together, you know, they, you know, it's all just an excuse to see Jackie Chan play twins. Exactly. That's all it is. It's just an excuse to have fun. And I suppose there's nothing wrong with that if it works. Yeah, I love how the only way they're differentiated from each other is one has like a ponytail. And an earring. Yeah, it's pointy on an earring. Yeah, it got to make him look like the cool one. Yeah, that's the only difference between the two of them. And the special effects with the two of them in the same shot, I mean, they're okay. I mean, there's like one scene in a restaurant where they have like zoom in on the waiter's asshole. So like, you can like do like a quick swap out of the two actors. I noticed that they were doing that transition with like, just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's a little too close. Yeah, but other than that, I thought the special effects were fine. A lot of people criticize them, but I was fine with them. I mean, it's same to me too. Unfortunately, Jackie Chan was a part of that consensus. He was like, yeah, the special effects of this are ass. Really? Yeah, he was like, I refuse to do any big special effects in Hong Kong films. I hate him. I'm only doing American films with special effects now. Hey, that's a good bit of trivia right there. That's interesting. Yeah. Makes sense though. Apparently, this film was like a directorial effort from the Hong Kong director's guild. And apparently, it was to like raise funds, I guess, for the guild. Really? That way there's two great directors doing it. So you're Hark and Ringo Lam. Yeah, but it's not just them. I mean, everybody like from the guild, I think, is in it. I mean, you have John Wu who shows up at the end as like, I think, the Chaplin at the wedding. Ringo Lam and Sue Hark show up near the end when they go to the, was it the car? Testing plant? Yeah, like the Mitsubishi car factory. Yeah, they're like two of the two out of the three guys who are like playing cards there. Oh, yeah, and they get stick up. They got, they get guns pointed in their first. I think Sue Hark is like, trying to like take a look at Lam's cards. The goons are like, what are you doing? I'm just going to eat. That's funny. That's a good bit of comedy right there and kind of emblematic of the overall sense of humor in this movie. Very light, very goofy. Yes. And the action scenes and stunts just, you know, Jackie Chan has a high standard. You know, he, he did police story one, he did drunken master two, very high standard for action. And this one meets it. I mean, there's a boat chase here that looks so damn dangerous that I'm surprised no one was killed. There's like boats like threatening to ram other boats and like running on top of other boats. And it's just, this is not look safe. Who greenlit this? They're crazy, but it works. Yeah, this was back when you could, you know, attempt to kill the actors and stuntmen. Yes. This is British Hong Kong. You're allowed to do that. You can't do that anymore. You can't do that in the mainland China Hong Kong no more. Yeah. Back in my day, we used to kill 20 stuntmen per film. Yeah, that's the ethos of Hong Kong cinema and the new way. 20 stuntmen crippled for life. No fatalities. Yeah, yeah. It makes it all worth it. That's a point. And another point against John Landis. Oh my gosh. He killed them. He didn't name them. All right. Anyway, so one of my favorite Jackie Chan stunts of all time is in this movie. And I know it's kind of a lame stunt by the standards of like police story or whatever, but I love the scene in the Mitsubishi auto plant where he runs on top of a car that's speeding at him. It's not elaborate or particularly dangerous stunt by Jackie Chan standards, but it looks so damn good for the camera that I can't resist it. Yeah, it's a really, it doesn't call attention to itself. I mean, it's like, it's really, it's sort of like mixed in there with all the other little gags. Yeah, sequence. But it really, you know, it's a good one. He could have got killed with that one. Well, I really like the one where he zipped lines from that. High ass cargo ship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's, yeah, this is, this is not the film with like Jackie Chan's signature super dangerous stunts. Like, as I said, police story one, but this is still has like some stunts that are like up there with like the best of them. Yeah, it's, it doesn't have the hair razor, you know, stunts of like police story three or one. But you know, I mean, I would say it's at least better than police story two outside of the firework factory finale. Yes, I agree this is better than police story two, but I still like that film. It's a good one. movie about a you know I'll probably watch to underhaggards before I see that again except for the ending yeah the finale of please story two is just is just ludicrous it makes up for some of the halfway their aspects of the rest of the movie yeah but I guess we should get into the plot this movie has a plot okay this this this won't sort of I read it's it's more like you know the sort of the cool twin you know he's he's a mechanic and I guess he's something of a he's sort of a wannabe street plug yeah he's separate at birth from his rich brother and he decides to become like a you know a wannabe gangster basically yeah he gets picked up as a kid because I think the stroller he gets put in by the because the cop in the convict you know they get into like a chase and he's about to run over the the baby grip so the cop pushes him out of the way he ends up ruling downhill into like a park yeah and there's like an alcoholic woman who like decides to just just adopt him no questions asked just like okay I'm taking him oh no and then she she dies off screen I guess from brick at itself the death is that how she died I guess that's implied I mean I yeah I guess it's a point I mean she's got like booze in like the baby carriage you know I mean it's like yeah that's true that's that's a good way of putting it I'll be honest I laugh I laughed when I saw the grapes to it I was like oh my god she did not she's gonna die oh yeah that's great stuff anyway yeah and the the rich twin is now a concert pianist and as well as composer and like the dude who does the orchestrations yeah he's the conductor as well he's the conductor that's what I'm looking for he's sort of a you know a master of all yeah he knows what he's doing when it comes to music as opposed to the other one oh I've got to mention this part it's a fantasy film because they have twin telekinesis yes they do they can feel each other's actions and senses it's kind of ridiculous and it adds to the likeness of the comedy but you know and any other film would be terrible but this film is a Jackie Chan comedy so I liked it it's fine yeah yeah one one can feel the other playing the piano and I think when one gets punched the other can feel it or like later on when they're in the boat chase he starts to get seasick he's like oh my god he starts to throw it water all over the place he's thrown it on his fiance he's like just going ballistic yeah he's like having a seizure right there in the restaurant there's one thing that I have a question about why didn't he start why didn't the good twin not the good twin but like the composer twin why didn't he start airhumping when like his when the thug twin started having sex why is that why was he to hump in the air repeatedly well you know I guess for the same reason the movie isn't read at all it's just airhumping but yeah I see your point yeah but uh yeah so I guess uh I are a cool twin you know cool Jackie Chan because he's got a ponytail you know he's got he's got he's got the drip and yeah he has a he has a friend who is basically Chinese Danny DeVito yes his name is in the American cut his name is Tyson but I believe in the original version his name is Tarzan yeah I think Tarzan works more because I there's like a joke later on where the other Jackie Chan is like ask to go visit is asked to go see Tarzan he's like oh you want to go see the movie yeah I suppose it should bring us a little bit to the fact that there's two different versions of this movie at least there's the American version which is shorter which is the one I watched because I have the ancient DVD for it now you watched the newer version well not the newer version but a newer release of the film which is the original Hong Kong cut so can you tell me some things about the difference between these two versions yeah I believe there's like an extended bit in the hospital after the gangster gets hit by the truck did yeah actually we should talk about that moment because yeah there's like a gangster who Tarzan basically he he's trying to like you know woo this like nightclub singer yeah make it yeah make it you know the critically claimed actress from all those one car wife films and you know he's just like he's like yes that is my girlfriend die hard yeah so the cool Jackie Chan I forgot to mention this is called his nickname is die hard at least in the try at least in the Hong Kong cut yeah yeah of course they wouldn't use anything that cool in the American cut yeah they basically stroll into this like private party where I think the nightclub owner arranges for this this gangster to have his way with Maggie Chung you know very sleazy but yeah like luckily our heroes show up and you know they will pull sorts of ass you know Jackie Chan he he weaponizes a microphone several funny scenes yeah he like yells into it it like defends people yeah it's like a video game going on out there it's it's one of the biggest laughs of the movie yeah he he accidentally punches Tarzan you know Tarzan you know kind of a bit of a bozo if I'm being honest you know it's just just kind of the worst it cuz he reveals like yeah that's not actually my girlfriend I just you know thought you know maybe maybe she'd fall in love with me if I did this very optimistic yeah kind of works the other way around though yeah so that is true she falls for the cool Jackie Chan yeah sorry bozo try your luck next time yeah but they end up getting captured they basically told you got to give us this amount of money we're gonna you know put you in the ground so there's an offscreen in the American version it's offscreen at least car race now do we see this in the in the Hong Kong version no there is no car race oh really yeah there's no car race I don't know I'm come this is like we watch two different movies now cuz like I think they like try to like skip town instead oh and that leads to like the the boat chase yeah like they're basically just like yeah let's just get out of town we're not gonna bother with this I thought there was a car race somewhere in there oh my goodness like they were gonna like pay me they they definitely teased one but uh okay I know that they sort of like I think part of the gangster schemes are like I think rigging races so okay you know racers who don't you know get under their payroll crash yeah yeah yeah they're like looking at photos of all these yeah yeah probably like real actual like you know racers who've been in accidents yeah yeah that thought cross-four mind as well like are these actual unsimulated photographs cuz I don't want to see this in my Jackie Chan comedy I mean they're not dead so you know it's okay at least I'm a no one yeah but uh yeah that that leads to the first interaction between the twin dragons who they meet each other at a like a hotel briefly they kind of brush shoulders yeah very high scale hotel and they're trying to I think they're trying to like blackmail one of the hotel workers there they're like yeah we got photos of you kissing the the managers girl he's like he tears it up he's like that was before he got with her oh but then they're just like oh you don't know that there's no date on this oh and then he just tears it up he's like hey let's make like a hundred copies of this supposed it all over he's like fine you win and uh you know that leads to you know the the meeting of the the Jackie's and yes I guess uh I forget how it leads into the boat chase but uh I think like they're about to get on the boat to like like skip town yeah and uh that's when the the gangsters show up and they're just like we'll crap yeah and it's yeah now go ahead I was gonna say it's a great boat chase But as we're kind of like alluding to the plot pretty loose not great But the the action seems like this boat chase make it all worth it Yeah, there's a ton of boats exploding you know Tarzan gets shot with a harpoon Not not fatally You narrowly the doesn't actually get hit I think something blocks it Yeah, it's his um life preserver vest. Yeah, his life preserves takes the brunt of it Which is a good gag Yeah, he said yeah, Jackie jumps from the boat into you. I was like you bastard Yeah, then he's like no, no, no don't avenge me come back And then the boat just flies for the air onto land and lands and like I think like I pick up truck Yeah, and then gets like To like a pile up Like a bunch of cars just crash into it Mm-hmm. Yeah, then the gang leader gets ping pong ball to cross the cars It's ridiculous. I was howling That happened I was not prepared for that. I was like what? Every time I see that I'm unprepared like what is happening in this fantasy film And I think this leads to one of the first cuts in your version. Yeah, because there's a scene in the hospital Oh Did you're seeing this did your version have a scene in the hospital? Yes, but I don't know if it's the same one. Well, you go ahead. Okay. Well briefly shows like the The mob boss of like a full body cast like flailing around and then they kind of talked to um I guess you could call him Tarzan. He's also in the hospital for some minor wounds You got off easy. They're just kind of talking to him like oh, I'm gonna steal Maggie Chung from you. He's like Yeah, what happened in the Hong Kong version? Well, there's more to like the injured gangster like Like the doctors like look you guys gotta leave him alone But then they like no We have a we have a magic What yeah, they're like we have a magic better the guy just starts saying a bunch of nonsense It just like starts messing with like the medical equipment Injuring him further. He's like oh and then the doctor just gets really angry It just like Hadookins the guy into the wall and he's like yeah bro. I'm the real deal Holy cow. Why don't we get to see that in the United States? That sounds awesome. It's a pretty funny scene I don't know why they cut it out. That's a good one And I think the sort of fake sort of magic sort of a doctor is played by the director of the god of gambler films Oh really, we got to cut his cameo out he won't touch money for the United States release Yeah, that another director cameo I believe David Chang From the new one-armed swordsman film. Yeah, he's in it Really I believe he's like part of the hotel security I forget who he plays, but he's he's in it Everybody's in this movie. Yeah, I mean, it's like millionaires express they got everybody in this one Every baby sites Charlton has to Yeah, but it should have been in it somehow two Charlton has since for the price of one Hey, that's what they should have done for the American cut It's just like get him in head. Yeah, get him in their Wingsworld two style. I mean when's world one side That would be too great Yeah, I don't know what to handle Too much cause a black hole where the earth is and destroy all mankind with this awesomeness We can dream Anyway back to twin dragons We've been digressing too much about Charlton Heston. Yeah Although that is inevitable Yes with AI someday we'll have a double triple quadruple Charlton Heston movie And I will watch it and probably say it deserves Oscars even if it's AI Yeah We live in dark times Okay Anyway back to twin dragons So, you know, there's a lot of mix-ups here, you know, I believe you know You know the cool Jackie Chan ends up getting switched around because they go to a restaurant and That's when we get the the ass shot, you know the yeah a little long the waiters Yeah, little little clever little switcheroo so we can see the other Jackie. Yeah But uh Yeah, that leads to a lot of mass confusion between the love interests Mm-hmm. Yeah because a conductor Jackie has a Sort of a I guess he's getting Sort of match made with a Childhood friend of his yeah, oh, it's just like I already got a boyfriend Yeah, I'm a fan. Yeah, we oh is he an iron rating fan in the US cut In the US cuties were an iron maiden jacket. That's yeah, he he does have that. I remember now. I'm just like but uh Yeah, they uh Yeah, they they end up Getting confronted by the By the iron maiden god's strongest iron maiden fan And uh Runs away so Bravely did he run away Yeah, there's a big fight, but Yeah, that's how it ends yeah cuz uh when I think cold Jackie exits the restaurant he's paying his bill and I guess the sort of childhood friend is like hey, what are you doing? You're paying already He's like who are you? He's just confused and then the boyfriend shows up, but he just whoops his ass And there's like a there's like a display salesman for like I think sporting goods. Yes. Yes. Yeah, he's like no no all my merchandise Yeah, it's so sad seeing all those sports merchandise being destroyed So tragic I was crying. Yeah, anyway, he does get the last laugh when he punches the guy he falls down the stairs Yes, go later or whatever it is I think it was just regular stairs. Yeah, yeah, it was regular stairs. I mean there is an escalator on Either side of it, but no just the great go at once escalator that would have been too dangerous for these Hong Kong stuntmen We'll say that for please story one Yeah, please story one. Oh I know you know We get we get a music video with Maggie Chung. Uh, I don't know if you got that one. I don't think I did Yeah, they cut that out. I know they cut that out. I had a feeling they did There's like a like they when uh I think a conductor Jackie takes Maggie Chung to like uh his uh, I guess uh his stage And he's like playing the piano and she starts singing and it turns into like a music video all of a sudden Like quite literally turns into a music video like complete with the cinematography Oh, that's I well, I guess I can see why that was cut for the American. Yeah, that I can see. I'm like. Yeah, that probably got cut Yeah but uh I guess that leads to You know the twins discovering each other While pissing on each other. Yeah, well, see each other. Yeah, they look at each other's willies and they're like oh shit Oh, am I looking at her? Yeah, it's a ghost Yeah, it's It's they're in the bathroom Taking away can they see each other that's because that's what you do when you take a leak in a bathroom You're supposed to look at the other person next to you make sure he's not your twin Yeah, I wrote a paper about it in college trust me I believe you Yeah, that that leads to a pretty hilarious scene where uh Basically the conductors Jackie confronts cool Jackie About sleeping with his childhood friend. He's like wait we both did It's okay Yeah, and I ended up having to like go into the bathtub hiding in the bathtub, which is probably I think that was the funny. Yes, you and for me Oh, okay, that was pretty funny. They're trying to like avoid just like having to They try to keep up the roofs Yeah, basically drowning each other just like Yeah, they're freaking her out because he keeps looking back and forth and he's there Yeah, also of that classic Jackie Chan physical slapstick comedy in play right there Yeah, they You know he loves He loves it, you know. Oh yeah. It's. Okay, I do have a little bit of a problem with all the identity changing. It does get a little confusing after a while, even if they do look a little different, because as we said, one has a ponytail and then earring, and the other one doesn't. But I don't know. I just want to see people get beaten up, so it does get a little confusing after a while and a little. It gets a little annoying for me. It got a little annoying. Yeah, that's why it's not a perfect movie. But yeah, it's. Yeah. That's basically just about my only problem with the movie, you know. Especially during the transition from the second act to the third act, it starts to drag it tiny bit. Just a tiny bit, but not that bad. Yeah, I think once, you know, they get the prison break sequence is when it starts ramping up a bit. Yeah. You know, Jackie's doing the conductor while his other brother is trying to break out the guy who separated them at birth. Did you notice that? It's the same guy. I don't know how it is. It really it is. Yeah, it is. I've looked it up. It's the same guy. It's the same character. Really? I just. I don't know. Yeah, the big boss is. I think his name is like "crazed". "Crazy, crazy" something. I don't know. "Crazy" Larry. Oh, okay. "Crazy" Kong. Okay, all right. Yeah. I don't know. I know. That's good to be a trivia right there. Yeah, it's Kirk Wong who plays him, who directed a crime story with Jackie Chan. Yeah, that's a good movie too. All right. I think you're right. Wait, no, you. Oh, he did the club. He did the club. Oh, yeah, I saw that one. Yeah. We did that in an early episode of the podcast. He directed the big hit. He directed the big hit with Marky Mark. Oh really? I've not seen that one. That's a good one. It's a pretty good one. I won't lie. It's a good one. But, uh, yeah, he's basically the main villain. You know, he's the reason why the movie happens. That is true. Yes. He separated the twins at birth and shot a cop or two. Yeah, it's a shot a couple actually. Yeah, he's kind of a real bad dude. Yeah. Yeah, so they get him out. He's like terrified. He's like, bro, I'm in like, like, Bay Rute right now. You gotta get. And, you know, Jackie just does a bunch of random bullshit to conduct the orchestra. Oh, yeah. It gets a lot of claps. You know, he. Apparently, he did a really good job. Even though it was just a bunch of nonsense. Yeah. Um, it's a slapstick sequence, but it works. It totally works. It's hilarious. Yeah, I love how like the truck is just completely destroyed when they get to like the meetup. Yeah. Everything's blowing up, left and right. Yeah, the brakes have been like completely destroyed and they have to jump out. I don't even think they all jump out. Yeah, I don't even know. Did Jackie kill some people on that armored truck? Oh, he killed somebody at the end, but we'll get to that later. Oh, yeah. He does. I was like, holy shit. But, uh, well, I think that leads to basically Tarzan getting snatched up and they're like, we need this briefcase that you took. Because I think, uh, conductor Jackie basically just drives off in a car that has the briefcase. Apparently has important stuff that the gang wants. But, uh, you know. That's just the plot issue. It's just a loose plot. Just an excuse to hang great action scenes off. Yeah, it's just a bit of a mcguffin that isn't really important. Yeah. That leads to like the climax, you know. This is when it gets like real good. The action. This is what we've been waiting for. You know, they basically team up. He's like, I'm not letting you go alone. You know, after the jig has been up, you know, they get caught by their girls. Well, I think conductor Jackie has had enough. He's like, bro, am I schizophrenic? That's funny. Any fights you have at Jackie hiding in like a cabinet? That leads to a big fight that we alluded to earlier. And the Mitsubishi car crashed testing place? Well, before that, they're like a cargo plant or whatever. I think it's like a well shipping yard. Yeah, dark yard, something like that. Yeah. And you basically tell us a moment, I have dynamite on this briefcase. If you shoot it, we all explode. And cool Jackie sneaks around and you basically start operating the crane. You know, man, he does a pretty cool thing. He drops like some explosive barrels and shoots them in mid air. That was awesome. Yeah, it's a good thing. This last act is just like one big terrific Jackie Chan action sequence. It goes on forever. It really does. It does. It's really cool. It's really cool, you know? You know, Jackie's zip lines across, I think like, I think the water to get to the Mitsubishi plant. Yeah, which is where they flee to. And you know, from there, it's just, you know, Hong Kong action comedy greatness. I mean, filled to the brim with gags and weaponized environmental, you know, hazards. Yeah, hazards. Yeah, it almost goes on for too long almost, but it does not just almost. Yeah. I would say the part where like they're in like the, I think the water room and like the microwave room. Yeah. It kind of goes on a little too long with that part, but otherwise I'd say like, yeah, it's just right. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. Yeah, but those scenes look really good. I mean, they're like the neon sort of lighting. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's true. It does have a distinct look to it that like burns itself into your memory. Yeah. And apparently wrinkle lamb directed basically all of the action scenes. Oh. Yeah, so I guess Sue Hart was like, yeah, bro, you do all the action. I'll do all the comedy. Well, I mean, I don't know if that's how it worked, but I know that most of the film was shot by wrinkle lamb and Sue Hart, you know, helped out. Well, it feels organic and after work. You know, because like the action scenes are finding up to be blended in with the other scenes, so it works. Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen enough of wrinkle lamb to say if this is his film. I mean, Sue Hart, I know what a Sue Hart film looks like. It's like hyper style as type or edited. Like everything's moving fast. You know, I've seen once upon a time in China. Like I know what his films are like. I've seen like snippets of his other ones. This is more, I would say, wrinkle lamb's film. But, no, this is, you know, that whole finale is like, I love the part where like he shoved the guy into like the trunk and it keeps shutting on him. Like if you look closely in the background, it's still closing on him. What? Yeah, he's still like, oh, he's still like getting the trunk shut on him. He's like, oh, please. Classical attention to detail. Yeah, you know, he does that car jump, you know, that's a really risky one. Yeah, that's my favorite part of the scene. Probably the whole part of the movie. I just love that part where he runs over the top of a car that's speeding at him. Not the most elaborate Jackie Chan stunt, but it just looks so fine. You gotta love it. Yeah, he's just, he's whooping ass. Conductor Jackie is running away, so bravely did he run away. He's like, I don't want any trouble. Actually, would you say this is like the first, I don't want any trouble Jackie? That I can't say for sure, but you can kind of see like that starting to like bleed into his performance here that kind of rush hour era. I don't want any trouble Jackie. Yeah, it's a good, good observation. Yeah, I mean, especially at the end when he finally starts whooping, I think one of the goons, although it's more like puppeteering than it is him actually doing it. Yeah, because he's a twin telekinesis thing. Yeah, he's like bro, Dodge. Yeah, because he keeps like running away. Yeah. And Jackie Chan, which is kind of unusual for like this period of Jackie Chan film, he killed somebody at the end. Well, they both killed somebody, both of them. Yeah, they both the Jackie's killed somebody. Yeah, they throw Crazy Kong into like a testing car and it goes driving off into like a sort of he has used as a crass dummy. He just gets. Yeah, and then the announcement is like, yeah, then the announcement is like no survivors. Yeah, please remove fresh test dummy and you're kind of like, oh, that's kind of dark. No seat belt on. No surprise. Yeah, no survival. Yeah, they do it earlier with Tarzan and like Jackie's. "Oh my god, are you okay?" And then the announcement's like, "See belt on, survival." - Yeah, he's like, "I'm alive, I'm alive!" - The video tends to be dead. - Yeah. So yeah, it's a great action scene to end it with. It's sometimes action movies don't always end with the best action scene of the runtime, but this one definitely does. - Indeed, I mean, this is like, you know, I mean, it's another good, you know, I mean, compared to Hollywood, this is like, "Cream in the Crop." - Yeah, this is a lot better than a lot of American movies we're doing at the same time, in terms of like, choreography. Now in terms of like plot engagement and the plot going on, maybe not quite so much, but if you're just looking for rock choreography, this is definitely top of the line. - Yeah, you wanna laugh of a Jackie Chan movie? You wanna see some pretty good stunts, you know, nothing that'll like, you know, make you a jaw drop, but you know, leave you pretty impressed. - Yeah. - This is a pretty good little middle ground here, you know, this is like, you know, I guess, how would I compare this? This would be like, it would be, so, police story three, and police story one. - Yeah. - Those would be like, you know, the cream of the crop. Those would be like a five-course meal. - Right. - This would be like getting like, I don't know, like a certain loin steak, yeah, you know, with some mashed potatoes, you know, and some like, you know, mushroom sauce or whatever, you know, some real premium shit, all right? This, it's not, it's close to premium. It's like, you know, you go to like a diner and you get like a really good juicy burger, and you know, you know, get some onion rings or something like that. - Oh. - It's like that, all right. - Yeah, that's the way of putting it. And sometimes you're just in the mood for that too. You're not always in the mood for a big steak. - Yeah, it's a little more small scale than those two films. - Yeah. - Ultimate. - It's kind of like, yeah. It's kind of like the transition from like, 80s Jackie Chan to more like, American era rush hour era Jackie Chan. - Yeah, exactly. I mean, it got released in America around the same time, like in 1999. - Yeah. - Yeah, this is like a 92 film, and it took them like, what, like, like seven years to release it in the States. - Oh, it took forever, I think. - Ma, I think it got a release. - Yeah, we used to suffer back in the day. (laughs) - For Hong Kong cinema. - Yeah, I remember the days in which John Woo's films weren't on Blu-ray anymore. - Yeah, look on YouTube to find them. - Yeah, to watch them on YouTube. - That's how I saw a lot of them in the first time. - Yeah. But now we're eating pretty good. - Yes. People like to bitch in moan about, over on the dark age of entertainment. I say, hey, you got everything you need, right? Your fingertips just buy the Blu-ray. - Yeah. - There was one thing that I forgot to mention. - Yeah. - So the sort of childhood friend of Jackie is played by Jet Lee's future wife. - Really? - Yes. - What? - I'm not kidding. Yeah, I think Nina Leechie. - Okay. - Yeah. - All right. - Yeah, she married Jet Lee in 1999. And you know, they've been married since. - Yeah, that's good. - Yeah, a lot of connections here with this cast. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - This movie's like filled with like, so many like actors and directors. I mean, we've mentioned John Wu, who shows up at the end. I mean, it's probably a lot that we're feeling the mention. - Yeah, 'cause we don't know them. I don't know them at least. - Yeah, I mean, I mean, I didn't even know John Wu had a cameo in this. I had to like look at like one of the special features on the 88 films, Blu-ray. - Okay. - But I was like, wait, that was John Wu. (laughing) Noted sex past Eric Singh, has a cameo as the guy talking on the phone about B.C.ality. Oh, it checks out. - Yeah, he's like, and this is actual footage of his house when he's just like talking on the phone. - Yeah, he's the guy who gets his phone snatched up by Jackie at the concert. He's like talking about category three films. - Oh! - Yeah, yeah, should we put a B.C.ality scene in this? (laughing) Yeah, like they did generate that he is. - Oh. - But, yeah, that's dragon, that's twin dragons for you guys. - Yeah, it's one of my favorite Jackie Chan movies. It moves fast, has a lot of great action. The comedy works. I think the comedy is really funny, which you can't say about every single Hong Kong action movie, but this one, it works well enough. You got two Jackie's for the price of one. The plot, not great. It's just like an excuse to have great action scenes to comedic set pieces, but other than that, I mean, I love this movie. - As far as movies made to fundraise money for a director's guild, it's pretty good. - Oh yeah, this is one of my favorite Jackie Chan movies that I've said like three times already. - Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I used to just think that this was just good. It's like a seven out of 10. No, I think it's like, I agree. It's like a high eight out of 10. - Yeah, that's what I would say. Yes, I agree, high eight out of 10. Yeah. It's one of those soft eight out of 10 movies that you watch on a sunny afternoon day. - Yeah, it won't bring you down at all. It's just this quick little movie you watch, you have some fun, get the Jackie Chan run over a car, run over a top of a car, not run over a car with another car, but run over a top of a car, yes. And it's just a fun movie. - Yeah, it's not running scared. - Yeah, not running scared. No, there's no Epstein Island sequence here that we know of. - Dun, dun, dun. - Oh. - The whole Eric Singh. - Oh no, no, no. - And on that note, you have any final thoughts on Twin Dragons? You know, I highly recommend you guys check it out. It's a solid Jackie Chan film. You know, it's not bottom the barrel. That's what I guess. You can't do wrong, wrinkle lamb, Sue Hark. I mean, with directors like these, you can't go wrong. - Yeah, and Jackie Chan, he has good quality control with his products. You gotta call him products. I mean, he rarely has a misfire that I've seen at least. He always delivers the goods all stories. So, I don't know about lately though. - Oh, I was gonna say his latest output. So maybe his output from these kind of socks, but. - I mean, the Shadow Strays was a good one, but that was like, that was an outwire. - Okay. - But it's 80s and 90s stuff. That's the good stuff. That's like, I thought it was the old one right there. - Yeah, that's when he was really having misfires. - Yeah, but check it out guys. We recommend it. Yep, so we are all out of bubblegum.com. So visit the website. Join the Discord. We have a Discord. It's a lot of fun talking there. You can tell us what to watch next. We also have a Patreon and subscribe to the podcast on wherever you listen to your podcast on. So, have a good rest of your day. Bye. - Bye-bye. (upbeat music) , "Sing走師否可怕理店等下" (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) 遠分是否好怕不愛定 結果 不問世事否好怕不愛定 去世 你合你必分好我 此次愛情真的太難變 前再世間價值暗何地 從此得恨情清楚 讓愛得喪慢相當忘記 存在些我面對 心仁心要我哄你 我一千雙全共一生 地路天放只剩十次的 不會雞駕也無隨便 狀況 從此不可變 前再世間價值暗 我一千雙全共一生 地路天放只剩十次的 不會雞駕也無隨便 心仁心要我哄你 我看到兩位 四人同事