#1014: A Deal With The Devil With Richard Syrett

Let's call them the elites. They've understood this for a very long time. If you listen to a three-hour speech, your eyes are going to glaze over and you're not going to really be impacted. But a three-minute pop song, I begin the first chapter in the book by a quote from a Scottish politician philosopher named Andrew Fletcher and he said, "Let me write the songs of a nation and I care not who makes its laws." And for that, oh it's the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tin Poil House. We go deep home boys. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the pocket of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some easier to manage with my legs. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just filled my mind. Welcome to Tin Poil Hat Live from the Wise Wolf, Gold and Silver Studios. We're back in studios. If you go to Sam Tripoli, Doc Gold used promo code Tin Poil. You too can get in on the press smells game. First little $50 a month. Good to be back in studio with the boys. Lot of great shit going on. Real quick I want to tell you my special, my new special, my 30 minutes special on gas digital drops September 1st and then September 12th is my is word war debate. And finally we'll get into a little later too. I have a crowd work special. My six one that's about to drop that will drop next week and that one's called women camp peg. Oh, so that's great. I'm very excited. I probably shouldn't have talked about that with our guests on here. He's a professional. He's a professional man with probably one of the best, the best hair I've ever seen in the business. Number one hair guy. If we had a mouth crush more hair, this guy would for sure be on it. He's got a new book out called Rock and Roll Twilight Zone or Tails from Rock and Roll Twilight Zone. Very excited having back. It's always a pleasure to talk to one of the old geez Richard. How are you buddy? Hey Sam, I thank you. My hair thanks you buddy. How are you man? What is going on from our friends from the North? It just seems like chaos up there. Yeah, that pretty well sums it up just you know what I'm trying to stay keep my head down or stay above the fray for what it is. You know that all of the politics up here it is. Yeah crazy times. I got to be actually thankful for this project because I've sort of it's distracted me from politics and if you get mired in that it just it can become demoralizing particularly up here when you know. I don't know the conservatives just can't seem to get their crap together and doesn't matter how miserable the Liberals are they just seem to get. Reelected time and time and time again but that's do you know any faith in that the elections are at all real. Uh you know again that's one of those rabbit holes that if if I start going down that I again it would be demoralizing I think for the most part I mean there are shenanigans and you know they have some. mail-in balloting issues in Quebec they had some problems the last federal election where the return address in mainly opposition party a writings where the opposition party was expected to win they put the wrong return address for elections Canada on the mail-in ballot so those ball and then the Liberals ended up winning by like one vote. Oh my god but they caught it they caught it and I think they I'm not I can't remember if the judge ordered a. A redo or not but yeah it happens from time to time for the most part that's not the problem here though the problem is we've just got a you know information voters and they just vote liberal liberal liberal because my grandfather my great-grandfather voted liberal. It's very crazy we just had a huge of a preliminary voting and Florida is absolutely insanity right now dude so they redistrict Florida and they took away Debbie Wasserman's district and somehow if you watch this it's crazy to see she won a district that's 100% black and she beat five black candidates. It's it's impossible. It's impossible. You're either voting for a neoconsignus or a progressive Bolshevik that's what they've done in this country anyways Richard for those who may not be familiar with your last couple of appearances on Tim Follhat. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself where they can find you and a little bit about your book because I know we're going to get into it. All right tails from the rock and roll twilight zone is is based on a podcast I produced back in 2018 it was produced on a documentary style I did about 40 episodes and from those 40 I selected 16 stories which ended up as 16 chapters in the book exploring rock and roll. Mysteries legends curses unexplained deaths or mysterious deaths there's an entire section on the beetles called the beetles enigma chapter one is questions whether the beetles or beetle mania and the and the British invasion was an engineered siop. I talk about the Paul is dead legend there's a whole section chapter section three about the deaths of Brian Jones. Jimmy Hendrix Elvis and Kurt Cobain we sort of reopen those cases chapter four is sorry section four is after death communications and premonitions. The final chapter is kind of personal it involves the the final phone call I had with my late partner friend collaborator are Gary Patterson who passed away just before we were to launch a terrestrial radio program. Which later became the podcast the rock and roll twilight zone so I dedicated the book to our Gary but it's it conflicts me to this day I basically cut to the quick I discovered that the phone call I received from our Gary Patterson. Late on the evening of May 16th 2017 occurred several hours after his death what. Yes and I can go into more detail air if you'd like but. We'll definitely get into that like when you brought the beetles you're in dangerous territory we have a one the biggest beetle fans on the earth. Okay Johnny well why is that but I love the beetles yeah you're right I do but I'm not I'm not I'm open minded. I'm I'm I mean I understand it's a sacred cow I'm a beetles nut as well I don't think they were winning participants in this you know but the machine got behind them and I agree. They they amplified them they they they basically use them as a weapon against American youth they were trying to subvert American youth and they use the beetles. And I mean there's another thing we can get into depending on how you want to let's start with this I I have said I've been on a bunch of podcasts lately I've been telling anyone that will listen I think there's three given three things I go if you ask me. What I believe I go there's three things I want 100% believe in I'd stake my life on it and these are the three things one okay that people conspire like you know that is the most basic of all the conspiracies. Did our people conspiring together one that's one hundred percent people conspire on the smallest level people conspire on the biggest levels to control power money energy they conspire the second one in this kind of fits into what you're talking about is that all culture is manufactured. That it's all controlled it's all it's all presentation it's a giant magic trick to listen again to control energy and the way you see the world and at some point to get you it like my whole thing is like our entire reality is a false reality projected on God's reality. That this is my my belief that all your culture icon so many of them are controlled is that mean every one of them. I probably not you know I would tell you the people I know and I'm going to lose everybody here because they know who I'm talking about but the people I know on a person level I watch them blow up and how they blew up but I'm open minded to anything and then the last one is that the world is ran by sorcerers that like literal sorcery magicians. Who are manipulating energy to for a worshiping a dark dark entities or entity to basically control us so. I feel like what what you're here to talk about today fits into that very well and it is a plug in place situation so I would like to start with the Beatles because the Beatles were kind of a phenomenon that hits they always say they're the most influential band of all time. of all time. that there's been discussions on whether that's true or not. There's been analysis of whether that's true or not, but we're going to round test assumption. Where do you want to start with the Beatles? Because I love this topic. Well, we can start with-- you want to go-- we can go all the way back to 1781, if you want. And the United States, with the Revolutionary War, and Cornwallis, the British general Cornwallis surrenders at Bloody Yorktown, and they lose the colony. They lose the American colony. And so if you can look at history from that point on 1781 to the present, as the British crown, let's use that short term. And that includes the elites, MI6, the city of London proper, and the bank of England, the Tabestock Institute, which came along really after the Second World War. They've been trying to win the hearts and minds of American culture for lack of a better term. Take the colony back. And so instead of using muskets and red coats, they discovered that something is even a more powerful weapon, and that's culture. And so they traded muskets for microphones and red coats for Rick and Bacher guitars, and they weaponized the Beatles, and probably other bands that were part of the so-called British invasion, which, you know, that's what they called it in '64 when the stones were performing on the Ed Sullivan's show. And then later came the kinks and the rolling stones and the zombies and so forth. I contend it wasn't a metaphorical British invasion. It was a literal British invasion. And so if you look at the timing, the Beatles arrive on the Ed Sullivan Theater two and a half months after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the American youth were absolutely traumatized by that. He was their president. And trauma is an important ingredient in what we now call MK Ultra. First, you traumatize the victim. So this was mass, mass trauma. The same way as 9/11 was mass trauma. - And Charlie Kirk is assassination. - I would agree with that as well. Yeah, it's fascinating how these things, you know, play out, you know, in public view, most of the time, and televised, although Kennedy, we didn't see the film until years later, but, you know, anyone in Daily Plaza saw it. And so with the Beatles and the timing, I think, is crucial. Now, we go back to the Second World War and the Tabestock Institute. It was first created actually in the First World War. They were treating shell-shocked soldiers, returning from the trenches, trying to heal their fractured psyches. I mean, talk about trauma. But after the Second World War, they kind of shifted their focus. And it became more like Sigmund Freud meets the Ministry of Defense and they were more concerned with mass psychology, behavioral modification, brainwashing, propaganda, these sorts of things. And they also understood, and we've, you know, let's call them the elites. They've understood this for a very long time, that if you want to influence or subvert or manipulate or infiltrate culture, society, or let's say the youth, the youth, you do it through culture. It's far more powerful than politics. I mean, if you listen to a three-hour speech, your eyes are going to glaze over and you're not going to really be impacted, but a three-minute pop song, which can bypass the analytical mind, goes right into the subconscious, affects your nervous system, you can affect your blood pressure, your heart rate, your emotional state, of course. They understood that certain chords, musical chords, could create different emotions, melancholy aggression. It can increase one's sexual appetite. In fact, there's a quote, I begin the first chapter in the book by a quote from a Scottish politician philosopher named Andrew Fletcher, and he said, "Let me write the songs of a nation. Let me write the songs of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." So they've understood this. Even in the United States during the Cold War, the U.S. State Department sent musicians like Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie and others. David Bruebeck, they sent them into these foreign countries. They were trying to combat Soviet communism, and they understood that musicians and culture was the more effective way of battling communism. I mean, you can send pamphlets, and people will recognize them immediately as propaganda. But if you get to a culture or to a society through culture, particularly music, you can have far more influence. And so that's what the British were doing with the Beatles. And again, the timing. So you had a youth culture that were absolutely traumatized, and then incomes, the Beatles with this incredibly infectious enthusiasm, and these catchy riffs, and the repetitiveness of the music is important too. That harkens back to MK Altra, something called psychic driving, where you put a message, you could be a spoken word, or a passage from a book, or whatever you put on it. And it plays like an endless loop, and you subject that to the person over and over and over again. It's psychological torture. And Dr. U.N. Cameron, in Montreal, he was a CIA-funded doctor at Allen Memorial Institute in McGill University, and they were taking women who were suffering from postpartum depression. And they didn't realize that they were being taken into the CIA-funded program at the hospital. They were subjected to electro-shock therapy and LSD. Their memories were basically wiped clean. And then they were subjected to the psychic driving, this repetitiveness. Now, this is not fantasy or conspiracy theory. This has all been proven in civil court. There were punitive damages. They were financial settlements and so forth. It's in the court records. This happened in the late 1950s and early 1960s. And the Canadian government was complicit in it as well. So this was the CIA's MKUltra program or an offshoot of it. And the Tabestock Institute, there was a lot of overlap with some of these people involved in MKUltra and the Tabestock Institute. That was kind of the genesis of it, right? And then it spread everywhere. And they took what they learned in Tabestock and brought it to the states and the Canada. Yes, and not only in-- they used it in advertising. So I'll give you another example. The Mewzac Mewzac AK. We used to call it elevator music. You don't hear it so much anymore. They don't need it anymore. But during the Second World War in American factories, they had to increase production, wartime production. And so they introduced this Mewzac system because they understood how music can affect production. It can affect, again, your nervous system, your heart rate, your motivation. And they had what were called audio programmers. And the Mewzac was designed. They piped it into the factories, and it worked. They got workers to produce more ammunition or tanks or whatever they were building. And then, of course, they learned, hey, we can also use that in grocery stores, in department stores, in influence people's buying and shopping habits, impulse buying, and so forth. So back in the '40s, they understood how music-- or Mewzac, as they called it-- could shape behavior. The Tabestock Institute did it as well. Now, I'm not saying in the book that MI6 handed John Lennon into guitar and sent him to Americans that, here, take back our colony. But I mean, we've understood for a long time that these institutions or intelligence organizations they get behind a movement. Maybe they don't create it initially. Maybe it does arise organically. But then they infiltrate, and then they subvert it, and they co-opt it. And that's what happened, I believe, with the British invasion. In fact, I believe it was Time Magazine, just a few days, a few nights after the Beatles' first performance on the Ed Sullivan Theater, 73 million people watching February 9, 1964. That was one in three Americans. One in three Americans were watching that broadcast. But Time Magazine later came out with a headline. In 1776, the British lost the American colony. Last night, on the Ed Sullivan show, they took it back. Now, they were trying to be cute and metaphorical. But they were speaking the truth. I'd love to know who you suspect the agent was. Was it Brian Epstein? Was it George Martin? Who would be the person? Are you by aging, do you mean handler? Yeah, yeah, handler, sure. Yeah, who was the turn coach? Yeah, well, again, there's no smoking gun document here that says, but could it have been George Martin? Could it have been Brian Epstein? I don't know. People point to a guy by the name of Theodore Adorno. Theodore Adorno was an academic. He was a cultural Marxist. He belonged to the Frankfurt School. Many of them infiltrated the United States and various government agencies. They were the ones that really the term "critical theory," which evolved into DEI and critical race theory and critical everything. Because these cultural Marxists wanted to destroy the family unit. In fact, they thought it was an expression of fascism. Black Lives Matter later adopted that philosophy. It used to be on the website. They saw the nuclear family as their biggest threat. So, too, did these Marxists. Now, was it theodore Adorno? He was also a musician. You can find some of his music on YouTube. It's absolutely horrendous. They call it avant-garde. It's avant-garde, but it's a tonal. It's discordant. And he hated pop music. He hated the repetitiveness, but he also said that pop music was being used to control the masses. So, is it possible that even though, and he didn't like the Beatles, publicly, he said he hated the Beatles, and he hated, again, popular music. Is it possible, however, that people at the Tabestock or the Crown recognized his understanding of pop music and had him help maybe craft some of the Beatles songs? That may be a bit of a stretch. Again, my main point here is we know, we know for a fact that intelligence organizations and the elites have tried and successfully, I think, subverted and co-opted the culture, as you stated in your opening remarks, Sam. And I think the Beatles, in that regard, were useful fools. They were incredibly our incredibly talented musicians, were incredibly talented musicians. But, you know, I see, I see also incredibly talented musicians in the subway, you know, busking, or on the sidewalk. And that's what I saw myself. What your American idol taught us is that singing. Have you ever seen Arya home on YouTube, the guy walks around with a full studio, and just a random guy grabs the mic, and it's the most amazing thing you've ever seen. He's tapped into something. And that shows you what one person with talent can do with, you know, just an array of random strangers, you know what I mean? Like, it only takes one person to. But you're totally right about American Idol. I remember when I first moved LA, they would run an open mic for musicians, followed by an open mic for comedy, so I'd get there early. And I would just hear the most amazing artist, and you never heard from them. Yeah, why are they not filling soccer stadiums? Why don't, why don't they have a multi-million dollar recording contract because the machine didn't get behind them? And the machine hits certain groups and artists, and then they control them. Now the artist may not be aware of this, and they're trying to be authentic and genuine, and that exists certainly. When did they get infiltrated, if you would say? When maybe someone discovered them playing in Hamburg, you know, in 6061, maybe, you know, something very interesting happened at the Litherland Concert Hall in Liverpool. In 1960, in fact, if you go there, there's a plaque on the Litherland Concert Hall. It says the birthplace of Beatle Mania. Something happened there, December 27, 1960, where even though the Beatles had been performing at the cavern club endlessly, and you know, I think they were performing six nights, a week, six shows a night in Hamburg, different places, they didn't connect the way they did on that specific night at the Litherland Concert Hall. And that was indeed the birth of Beatle Mania. People were like in a trance, hysterical. That's where it all began, and people were get this. They were bringing sick friends and relatives, disabled friends and relatives backstage, hoping that one of the Beatles would lay their hands on it. They were like, they had this, almost like this godlike status. What happened? Now, I mean, to get a little supernatural, and I don't want to get too far off, you know, we're all about it right now. But in the whole first section of the book is called the Beatles Enigma. So chapter one is about the British siaop to create Beatle Mania. Chapter two is the whole Paul is dead legend. Chapter three is whether or not John Lennon made that post in bargain, made a deal with the devil. And he would bingo, dude. So he would, yeah, sorry to cut you off, man. No, but you know, when this is a crazy thing. So when I was very young in Hollywood, I went and I had meetings with MTV, and it was going really good. And then at one point in the meeting, the guy goes, you're gay, right? And I go, no, but what if I'd said, yes, I'm a good friend. What have you been honest? Well, if I'd been honest with him. Oh, oh, where I be. If he wasn't a cute guy, that's why you're like, no, yeah, I mean, like, I'm not good judge. You guys love you. He was obviously gay. But the point is a friend of mine, a good friend of mine, Ernst talks about a time where he was having like, he had a holding deal, which was big back then. That meant that they were trying to find a project for you. They threw you money. You would, you would, you were with them for this amount of time of the holding deal. And he took meetings. And it really wasn't even about the art. It was about his political views. So, and we always hear these stories about people who are sat down, they're like, listen, if you want all the riches, all the fame, do you agree to do what we want you to do? And that's the question. And he usually involves a death of a family member, just kind of turning out your child, all that stuff. It's like, these are real questions that get asked. And it's almost something like in Freemasonry, where there's this discussion about how there's this moment with the Bible. And no matter what you say, they tell you that's the correct answer. Like, if you will spit on the Bible and throw it on the ground and stomp on it versus I won't do that because I love Jesus. And like, your answer determines which way you go in in Freemasonry. And if you, and, and you will be told, you made the right decision. That's what they were looking for. But you won't know if you really made the right decision because it will, it will determine what access of stuff you have on later on. So 100% there's these conversations of whether you're a team player or not. Right. And, and when I say Faustian bargain, I don't know if John Lennon, you know, signed a contract in his own blood before Satan. And I, there's a chapter dedicated to Robert Johnson and the curse of the crossroads. Yeah, we'll get hold of that. But I don't know, I don't know how it happens exactly. I think at a certain level, we all make a Faustian bargain. We're tempted every day. But we do know that John Lennon would tell his friend musician, Tony Sheridan, and they used to be basically his backup band, Tony Sheridan's backup band in Hamburg. That's how they sort of earned their chops. And he would tell Tony Sheridan all the time. I made, I made a deal with the devil. I made a deal with the devil. Was that John Lennon being, you know, tongue and cheek? I don't know. He also told his, his auntie and his, his mother before she died. I'm going to be bigger than Elvis. And I don't care what I have to do to get there. Guys, they're printing us out of existence, money's worth nothing. That's why you got put your money in the press mouth. And that's why I want to tell you about our good friends at Wise Wolf Goldensilver. Let me tell you about Wise Wolf Goldensilver. Wolf Pack Gold. If you're paying attention, you know that D dollarization is real. Fia is fake. And you don't want to be left holding the bag when the dollar collapsed. 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But I literally walked by and was having a conversation. He literally said, I sold my soul. Do you remember why I told you that, Johnny? I do. Yeah. And it's gone pretty well. And it's gone pretty fucking well. And there's another comic that was like, just a regular Joe. And then one day showed up and he looked totally different. It was all black. He's wearing sunglasses at night. And just you're like, how did this fucking happen? And then it turns out his people in his life are very much into voodoo and all this other kind of crazy shit dude that you kind of go, dude, what the fuck, man? It's like because I've said this before. It's like Johnny and I talk about it all the time about how I call Elvis energy. Johnny calls a Hitler energy, right? Like the Hitler factor. The Hitler factor, right? And how you either have it or you don't have it. And you know who has it. They just connect with crowds. And there's just some people that don't connect with crowds. And you see it. And you're like, that guy's so funny. Why isn't this popping? They don't have the Elvis energy. And you can't get the Elvis energy no matter how much you try unless you do one thing. And that is sell your soul. If you go on YouTube, you'll find a clip there, Bob Dylan interviewed on 60 minutes by the late Ed Bradley. So we're going back probably 20 years, maybe 25 years. And Dylan basically makes that admission. Yeah. He's asked, can you write those same songs that you did during free will and Bob Dylan days, you know? And he said, no, I can't do it anymore. And then he alluded to the deal. He made a deal. Yeah. And he didn't come out and say, you know, with a clothing hoofed disciple of Bill Zabab or anything like that. He has a poetic way of saying it though. Yeah. Yeah. It's also about like, why are you still touring or something like that? And it's like, got to pay the man. Why do you still do it? Why are you still out here? Well, it goes back to the destiny thing. I mean, I made it to bargain with it, you know, long time ago. And I'm holding up my hand. What was your bargain? To get where I am now. Should I ask who you made the bargain with? With, you know, with the chief commander on this earth and his earth and in the world we can't see down to. That is crazy. So was that deal struck at the Litherland Concert Hall, Liverpool, December 27th, 1960? Was it a, was it a pact made for 20 years? You go ahead 20 years, December 1980. And his assailant sent to collect the bill. Huh. Well, I, yeah. Now, do you think this has always been my question with those guys? Do you think that they in the late 60s? Are they still playing into the, to that or are they, have they gone off script at that point? And is that why the, for instance, because, you know, we know going off reservation. Yeah. Like John Lennon puts his guitar, hangs his guitar above his bed for most of the 70s. And it's just a father. And then when he finally decides to come back and write in 1980 when things are about to take off, it seems, you know, he's gone down. And I want to, do you think I, are they more off script in the late 60s with what they would, with what, you know, whoever it is that's handling them would have them be doing when they leaned into the hippie thing or is that part of it? I'm really curious what you think. Like toward the breakup. So 1969, John Lennon had a little side project. This happens before they formally broke up the Beatles, that is. But he and, and Yoko and some other session players came up to Toronto. It was called the plastic Ono Band. And they, they performed, I believe, at the varsity stadium attached to the University of Toronto. Now, Canada's great thinker, great communications guru, Marshall McLuhan was a professor at the University of Toronto. You'll remember McLuhan from the medium is the message. And he wrote about, you know, the global village predicted the internet 50 years before it happened in all of these things. McLuhan sat down with John Lennon. And he went through all of this stuff, not the, you know, not the satanic, you know, the Faustian bargain, but the whole idea that the tavis, the Beatles were engineered. They were a creation of the tavis talk. Because McLuhan, you know, he believed that the arts were controlled by secret societies. He wrote about this. People don't understand that about Marshall McLuhan. He was a conspiracy guy. He was very connected with intelligence whistleblowers. And he sat Lennon down and he told them all this. And Lennon, according to the legend, I guess, was furious and stormed out of McLuhan's office. And then he went back to the hotel, I guess, and thought about it and came back several hours later. And he talked some more and he left understanding that everything McLuhan told him was true. Now did that plant a seed and lead Lennon to decide to quit the Beatles? I don't know. But it did seem to sort of change the trajectory of his artistic output. A few years later, we had an album like, you know, "Mine Games," where he's really talking about these sorts of things. And I think it did change Lennon and he became far more political. And of course, by this time, you know, the Nixon hated Lennon. They were trying to kick him out of the country. They lived, he was living in New York at the time. They had a huge file on John Lennon. They were bugging his phones, tapping his phones, wiring his apartment and so forth. So, yeah, definitely. And I think that we see that with certain artists. When they understand, they can see the strings. You know, they're the puppet and they see the strings. They were created by the machine. Now they're turning on the machine or they're telling people, "Look, you know, I'm a useful fool." That asset is of no longer use to the elites. They've got to be taken out at that point. You see these mental breakdowns of people like Britney Spears and Justin Bieber. Is that what happened to them? I'm wondering. And it's also when you're no longer making money. If you're no longer making money and you're taking in money, but you're not producing money, now you're a problem. And that's a big thing with like P. Diddy, right? Like P. Diddy wasn't creating hits anymore, but all of his old hits were getting played everywhere. And he was making royalties on that. So he wasn't getting any money. He wasn't putting any money back into the coffers. He's only pulling it out. And that's when they probably rated him and got rid of him and got, you know, and I'm sure there's some stuff where he gets, they get out of these contracts. And it's like the fact that he's still alive is absolutely insanity. Like, you know, because he was associated with so much death, like so many people around him, either were dead or in jail for things that he did. And you're like 100, like we tell the story here all the time. We had a guy from Hapery, Jamie Jostout, our show. And he was talking about how he was thinking about putting his concert films on his website and charging for them. And someone in the conversation that he was having with them goes, well, you better pay them because they don't like that when you cut them out, going back to Louis CK. A lot of people think this whole, because everyone knew those things about him. What he did like to do in front of women. And I knew the girls that what that he did it to. And they were kind of have moved on. I they weren't really the ones who pushed this whole narrative to take him down, but it was right around when Louis CK started putting his own sitcoms on his own channel and charging for it. Michael Jackson, the same thing, Prince, the same thing. When you go off, it's funny that, you know, an assassination like Charlie Kirk reverberates so much. When you look in the rapper community, they're getting off left and right. Yeah. Yeah. They get off left and right. And it's always when they start to get political, want to create their own, uh, their own studio, their own label. They start talking about things that piss people off. Same thing with Martin Luther King starts talking about how it's a class war, not a race war. And right after that, he's gone, the Martin Luther King family sues the government, saying that they're behind assassination and wins. And nobody ever talks about that. We're arguing whether there's dark forces behind a Charlie Kirk thing outside of a transfer. You know, Martin Luther King's family suing the government that they were behind the assassination and they won. So yeah, I think you're totally, it's like, it's like you want to make it in in show business. There's a lot of people want to make it in show business. And that's great. You get there. But then there's a price to pay for the rest of your life, like why is Willie Nelson? And it's, it's funny because we look at country music as like kind of more god centric, but now we're starting to see weird things popping up in country music. Uh, in particular, Dolly Parton right now is like people are talking about the weird hand symbol singles she's doing in her stuff. like her health is failing. She's still trying to tour. It's a it's a - Weird ass thing, dude. - And countries become really dark. I don't know if you've heard it, I was forced to hear it recently in a car dealership and it's all downbeat and kind of like dark energy that all the popular music I heavily influenced by that show Yellowstone I think a lot of, 'cause that guy's taste is very like downbeat, sort of dark music. I had a quick question for you. Do you think, what are some of the messages that you think were inserted throughout the '60s into the Beatles music and their personas? What were, how were they trying to influence youth through those songs? - Well, I don't have a kind of a scientific breakdown of which musical chords can evoke certain emotions and so forth, but if you look at the evolution, or some might say the devolution of American culture from 1964, just say 1967, two and a half, three years. If you look, the youth culture in America almost in lockstep with the Beatles and some of the other British invasion bands as well, but if you look at the Beatles, they're hair, you know, they said they had long hair in '64, but it was just barely below the collar, but the hair got longer, the clothes got more outlandish, the normalization of drugs in three years, a lot of place, and the youth culture almost in lockstep with the Beatles. That is the power of culture, and yes, again, the repetitive nature, and not so much the words, but it's the repetitiveness of the words. Again, think of Marshall McCluen. The medium is the message, it's not the content, it's the technology that has the impact, and so that repetitive nature of the music, which was very similar to psychic driving, which I mentioned earlier with Dr. Ewan Cameron at McGill University, and it's psychological torture, in those cases, but here, the idea was just to bypass analytical mind and affect emotions and the subconscious mind. - So interesting. - I think they did the same thing to the guy who killed him, who killed John Legend. He must be MK Ultra, the book catcher in the right. - I get John Legend. - Yeah, there must have been something, there must have been something with that, with some MK culture thing. - Oh yeah, I read that book like fit, like the whole story of John Hinckley is crazy, dude. Like he traveled the world, no one knows how he did it. He, 'cause he didn't have the money. - John Hinckley or Mark David Chapman. - Mark David Chapman, Mark David Chapman, you're right. So, traveled the whole world, no one knows how he did it. He would work through the why, which we find out is the YMCA, which is a government cutout. They were using those as, you know, fronts for Christianity, but really, they were kind of ways of subversion in the countries they were trying to overthrow. They were sending CIA agents through those places as a way to get in. And then he would get weird phone calls all the time. And people, you would talk about these phone calls he got. And they, who knows what was said on those phone calls, but maybe the words to enact his, this subconscious assassin. Like, that's what they were saying with Serhan Serhan, the woman in the pink dress, the polka dot dress, which most people don't know about. She, you know, the famous story about her yelling, we got him, we got him. Sounds like we got who, they're like, we killed RFK and she runs off laughing and give, well, she was seen with Serhan Serhan right before the assassination. Is she saying the words that trigger him to do the fake assassination where he pulls a gun and everyone says, "White smoke almost like confetti comes out." It's super interesting, man. That was absolutely. Now, in my book, Tales from the Rock and Roll Twilight Zone, I don't get into the MK Ultra angle with Mark David Chapman, although for the record, you know, I certainly believe it was a political assassination. And I certainly think there's a lot of credence to that argument that Chapman is another in a long line of program assassins. In my book, it's more of a supernatural metaphysical look at Lenin and the question as to whether he made this pact with the devil that lasted 20 years. I mean, if you go back in literature, the idea of this Faustian bargain, Faust was this German alchemist who supposedly made this deal with Mephistopheles, who was, you know, this demon, this German demon. And Marlo, you know, was a contemporary of Shakespeare, he wrote about Faust and Gertrude, the great German writer wrote about Faust. And in those cases, the pact was for 24 years. So in this case, I guess, you know, it was revised, it's 20 years. So I'm questioning, you know, whether Mark David Chapman was not the architect of Lenin's murder, but was the vehicle, the instrument by which the debt or Lenin's immortal soul was collected 20 years after the pact was made. But Sam, you were mentioning earlier about how, you know, this Masonic ritual where you spit on the Bible. Well, Lenin sort of did that in a number of ways. You may recall an album that came out in 1966. It was called Yesterday and Today. And it had the four Beatles sitting there, wearing white smocks covered in dismembered baby parts. And the album cover was pulled because it was, it was quite obscene by today's standards. If you've got a, if you've got original, you've got probably a very valuable asset or collector's item. But that was just seen as a total abomination. Then of course, we had John Lenin's infamous remarks, you know, we're more popular than Jesus. So, you know, was that part of the ritual that John Lenin had to denigrate Christianity? You know, later he wrote songs, you know, Imagine, Imagine there's no heaven, Imagine there's no hell. If you've made a pact with a devil, you better be hoping. There's no heaven. Yeah, right. In other words, there's no judgment. In another song, he wrote, you know, I'm scared. Then he said, or he wrote, there's no bell, book or candle that's going to get me out of this. Now, in Catholicism, when someone is excommunicated, a bell is wrong, the candle is snuffed out and the Bible is closed. That is sort of the ritual of excommunication. So, I mean, was Lenin telegraphing that he knew, time was running out and he had made a horrible mistake. Perhaps, I mean, there's a lot of interesting foreshadowing in his lyrics. There's also, I just want to leave you with this. There's a photograph. I believe it's on the magical mystery tour album. Maybe on, like, it's a gate full, I think, maybe on the inside of the album. From 1967, Lenin is standing on the street in London and in behind him, you can see kind of a billboard or a sandwich board. It appears to be an advertisement for a travel company. Again, this is 1967. It says on the billboard behind John Lenin, the best way to go, as in travel, the best way to go is and then the initials of the travel company, M-D-C, Mark David Chapman. - Whoa. - Fascinating. - Whoa. That is crazy. That is crazy. I also want to get into some of the, 'cause I could talk to you for a while. - So we talk about Paul's dad before we, yeah. - Yeah, okay, John, yeah, John, this is, yeah. - I love that one. - Yeah, Paul's dad, what are your thoughts on that? - Okay, spoiler alert, I don't believe Paul McCartney was killed in a car crash in November 1966 after storming out of Abbey Road Studios and was then replaced by a body double, because in order to believe that, it have to believe that the executives at EMI or their surviving Beatles or George Martin or Brian Epstein found an exact body double who also was a left handed base player, who arguably was more talented than the original. And I say that because if you look at McCartney's work up into '66, yes, he wrote yesterday, probably the most covered song and pop music history, but post '66, look at the outpouring of masterpieces by Paul McCartney, let it be, hey Jude, the long and winding road, all his work with wings, his solo music and so forth. However, having said that, even though I don't believe it, the clues that were left, the breadcrumbs that were left, whether we're talking about the album cover of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and I thought I saw that on your set there in the back. - Yup. - There it is, yeah. It's a funereal scene. There's so many clues on that album cover. In fact, if you take a straight edge of a mirror and you place it basically cut in half the bass drum, there's a bass drum on the album and it says, the name of the album, but if you place the straight edge mirror there, you'll get the reflection back. It'll give you the date of McCartney's supposed death, which was in Roman numerals, which is the 9th of November and then it says he died. So the clues are there. There's also someone placing a hand over McCartney's head, which is sort of Eastern mysticism for this person is dead. There's a bloody, there's a doll on someone's lap and the person is wearing a hat. wearing a glove, a racing glove on the left hand. McCartney was left handed and it's covered in blood. I mean, the whole scene of Sergeant Pepper's is a funereal scene on Abbey Road. You've got the four beetles crossing the street. McCartney is out of step with the others. He's barefoot. Why? Well, when you put someone in a coffin, you're not buried with your shoes. You're barefoot. He's smoking a cigarette with his right hand, even though he was left handed. There's a Volkswagen on the side of the road with a license plate that says 28IF. 28 if McCartney would have been 28 had he lived. So, and then there's the back masking in the song, Sergeant Pepper, if you play it backwards, I buried Paul. Revolution number nine, turn me on, dead man, turn me on. All these clues, how did they get there? Was it just clever marketing, perhaps? But there's also an argument to be made that it was a very clever siop. Imagine how useful this would be for intelligence organizations to be able to sit back and watch, perhaps tens of millions of teenagers around the world, so incredibly distracted and focused on finding these clues. Playing in dormitories all across America, playing the records backwards, taking a magnifying glass, looking at the cover of Sergeant Pepper. Or I found another clue, I found another clue. What's going on in 1969 when this legend took off? And it spread, initially just by word of mouth, and it still lives with us today, 60 years later. But if you can get students doing that, you distract them from the war in Vietnam in '69. There was a lot of, there was the race riots going on. There was so much turmoil in America. And yet you had all of these college students focused on the Paulist dead legend. And it really began with a call to a Detroit radio station, a DJ named Russ Gibb, took a call from a student in Iowa. I believe it was Davenport University. And he told Russ Gibb about all these clues. Russ Gibb had never heard of it before. All of a sudden the phone lines are flooded with calls. They're talking about the clues a couple weeks later. The same thing happens at WABC in New York with Roby Young, the great DJ. WABC was at 50,000 watts station, it reached 40 states. Roby Young gets fired on the air by his manager, program manager, because he broke format instead of playing records. He was taking calls about if the Paul is dead legend. And here we are. And this all happened, this all happened decades before social media and the internet. That is interesting, dude. That is intra, that is almost what they're saying with Q. Like, the really the question is, can they capture our minds? Your energy. Can they capture our energy? Can they get us to buy into something and run with it? And then it becomes a life of its own. And they feed little breadcrumbs here and there. And it's a giant marketing ploy. It's a great way to get, oh, now you're running to buy the record to look at all the little symbols. You're easier to push when you're already leaning, you know? Yeah. It reminds me of coast to coast. I knew some people were calling. I'm like, oh, that's government. They're pushing some government stuff. I'm like, how do you know that? I wasn't checking it. It's interesting. I wouldn't doubt it, dude. Send in me like, hey, start this theory about Paul. And it just got the ball rolling. Yeah. Guys, let me tell you about our friends at Mint Mobile. When we were kids, some are meant freedom. No homework, no teachers, no school. As adults, summer means freedom thanks to Mint Mobile's summer sale. Right now, all Mint Mobile plans are $15 per month, even unlimited. So free yourself from big wireless and their gimmicks and gotchas and switch to Mint for high speed data coverage on the T-Mobile 5G network. I love Mint Mobile. I love everything about Mint Mobile. 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Now, you've got hundreds of millions or billions of people walking around with their smartphone and their scrolling. And it's sending back information about you. When did you stop scrolling? What did you stop, which Instagram posts did you stop on? Did you pause? You know, what's on your playlist? What are you sharing? - Where you watch information? - Exactly, what are you watching? How long are you watching? When did you fall asleep? What did you fall asleep to? What are you listening to while you're asleep? It's all right here and we're sleeping with it right by our head. It don't need, I mean, the power they have now because of the ubiquitousness of the phone is, they don't need to necessarily, I mean, it was pretty primitive back in the '60s. You know, we'll take this band, we'll have them play these riffs and we'll see if they can influence the culture. They were successful, but they don't need to do that anymore. It's all right in the phone. We're all just, and we're accepting of it. We're accepting of it. - They do something like that. They do something like that with gospel music. They'll play music at the churches and they figure out which ones work and they throw those on the airways or like which albums work and they're just testing it on the people at church. If the people at the church start singing back they're like, oh, this one's good. It's pushed this band. - You know what's so interesting? - Rappers do that at strip bars. Oh, really? They'll be like, is this gonna be a hit? They'll play it in strip bars. The girls start dancing. They know they got a hit. Yeah. - That's enough. - That's so embarrassing. - They're testing it out. - I want to say about the bills too. I don't think it's any coincidence that Paul and John, their mothers died when they were young. I think they probably, if they were targeted it would be partly for that and John. - Everything's data. - Yeah. - And John's father too was like absent. So I think they were particularly likely to be. - Everything is data. They're watching everybody. I mean, you know you have some stuff about Kurt Cobain, but like, you know, it's, everything is data, dude. We just did something like Gates program. They're all caught. Like, now they have to send people in the schools to find out who's this and who's that. It's like why they use Charles Manson. They just, this guy, he had something. He had energy. They can manipulate him. He had that Elvis factor that we talked about. People got behind him, get some rest. It gets kicked, release from jail instantly. So it makes call, get him out jail. And then they start sending people to him, to blow him up, to make the read. It's like, it's all data, dude. Everything is data. They're constantly watching. And it's like before that, they would go these campuses and see they would talk to these professors, who's the loudest, who's the most passionate, and they would just study this stuff. It's a whole thing like why Pornhub is free. What are you watching? Who's commenting? Who's commenting on the shadiest videos on Pornhub? - Like, how much data do you think they got off the Candace Owens and Ju Wilson? It's got 5.2 million views. already. How much data did they get off of that? Who's watching it? Who's liking it? Who left comments? Who watched the whole thing? I mean, maybe it's more about like dividing conquer with that video, but it's possible, but it's just data. Yeah. I mean, but it's like, it's just like that causes like, again, going back to like programming people into, oh, man, you got to be behind this assassin. You got to fight for the truth. Good guy bad guy, all that stuff. Yeah. I mean, the 60s were a crazy time. The whole thing was a giant CIA sia up. I mean, you got stuff about Jimmy Hendrix, but also like the grateful dead. I mean, I don't know how good that music is. I don't think it's bad. I just, you're playing stadiums and people are following you around. You're, you know, you're, you're the, the band for the, the CIA's acid manufacturer. And then they're like, yeah, dude, we're just going to throw you up there and we're going to load everybody what acid. And they're just going to associate acid with your music. And they're going to follow you around and do nothing with their lives. Yeah. And people forget LSD was, was legal up until I think 1966. And the, the guy that was making LSD or acid, not only for the grateful dead who were known as, were originally called the warlocks. It was just playing in some, the house band and some pizza parlor and hate ashbury. And they hook up with this guy, Stanley Ausley, or Ausley Stanley, my apologies, Ausley Stanley, he was, he was making up batches of LSD and his bathtub at Berkeley. And he provided LSD to all, you know, the beach boys, you name it. It was all Ausley Stanley acid. And he also became kind of their, you know, they're not their tour manager, but he was the guy that came up with this idea of stacking all these amplifiers. You know, it was the Ausley Stanley wall of sound. We attribute that to Phil Spector. But in concert, it was Stanley who came up with this idea, all these amps stacked on, you know, and yeah, everybody's tripping out on LSD and, and Jerry Garcia is playing like a 28 minute solo. I agree. I mean, I, I like some other music, but they were the house band for the Mary pranksters and Ken Keezy, you know, the guy that wrote one flew over the kukus nest. He was driving that bus and they were just handing out free LSD and people were tripping out. And Ken Keezy reportedly, along with, I was at Robert Hunter, who he didn't perform with the dead, but he co-wrote most of their music with Jerry Garcia. They were both involved in an, in an LSD program at Stanford University, which is interesting. So, yeah, it's, the hippie movement and the whole summer of love thing, it may have originally been this organic happening, but as soon as the elites take notice of, you know, look at, there's this happening over here. We better get in there and, and make use of it, and amplify it and steer it, just the same as Beatlemania. That's what they did. I mean, you know, Charlie Manson, you mentioned, he's hanging out in the same neighborhood in Haydashbury, recruiting his family as MK-Ultra scientist Dr. Jolly West was. Coincidence? I think not. And I spoke with an MK-Ultra survivor recently on my podcast and she says that she was now, can I verify this? Is truth? No, I can't. But according to her, Michael Aquino, who was a Satanist who achieved a very high status in the US military, Michael Aquino and herself and Charlie Manson were all part of the same MK-Ultra program for what it's worth. So, you know, everybody goes through their Jimmy Hendrix phase of their life. They go to college, you smoke a pot, you're listening to Jimmy Hendrix. Water falls one of my favorite songs of all time. What's your thoughts on Jimmy Hendrix? Jimmy Hendrix, I think like the Beatles of the machine got behind him. He was managed by this guy, Michael Jeffrey, who was kind of a sinister guy. You know, the record, the music industry from the mid-50s up until probably the mid-70s, maybe a little bit later, was like the Wild West. You had gangsters and assassins and just, I mean, look at Led Zeppelin's manager, Peter Grant. That guy was a thug. I mean, he'd throw people down the stairwell. Don Arden, the manager of Black Sabbath and ELO. They called him the Al Capone of Rock. Well, Mike Jeffrey was in the British intelligence core. He was said to be a killer. He would tell people, you know, I can kill you with my baby finger. And he served in the Suez Canal crisis in 1956 with British intelligence. He got a hold of, he got his hooks into Jimmy Hendrix. He made himself indispensable to Hendrix. He would stage kidnappings. Hendrix had no idea what was happening. He was in New York and Greenwich Village. What? He gets lured out of a club and he gets thrown into the back of a van and held hostage in an apartment. And the kidnappers supposedly call Mike Jeffrey. And Mike Jeffrey then contacts his fixer in New Jersey who brings in his mobsters. And they somehow miraculously, they know where Jimmy Hendrix is being held. And they free Jimmy Hendrix from the clutches of this gang. And Mike Jeffrey swoops in like the, you know, the savior, the knight in shining armor and says, I rescued you, Jimmy. You've got to stick with me because without me, you know, you're going to be like a lamb thrown to the wolves. Same thing happened to Toronto in 1970. Jimmy Hendrix lands in Toronto. By this time, he's free of heroin. He's clean. He's traveling with Kathy etching him his girlfriend. She knew he was clean. The, the customs people find drug paraphernalia in his suitcase. And he looks at Kathy Eston. And she goes, you know, I'm clean. That's not mine. I didn't put that there. He was facing probably 20 years in jail in 1970 in Toronto. They didn't mess around. Now everything's legal up here. But again, Mike Jeffrey swoops in former Intel, you know, they say once CIA, always CIA, probably the same with MI5 and MI6. He's got connections. He gets Jimmy Hendrix off the charges. And once again, he comes to Jimmy. See what I do for you, Jimmy, without me or nothing. He stages these things. This is a classic M.K. Ultra war. And he also, he toured Jimmy Hendrix. He ran him ragged. He physical exhaustion, emotional exhaustion. He, and there was no rhyme or reason to where Jimmy would be touring. Instead of, you know, going up and down the East Coast or into the Midwest, he'd be all over the map. It was deliberate. He was trying to wear Jimmy down. And Jimmy Hendrix was signing things. He didn't know what he was signing. He was signing his life away. And I talked to, in the, he's in the book, Jimi Salton, played percussion for Jimmy Hendrix. You'll recall Jimmy Hendrix closed the show at Woodstock and that star, star-spangled banner that he played. Well, he wasn't with the Jimmy Hendrix experience at this point. It was, the band was called Gypsies, Sun and Rainbows. And Jimi Salton played percussion, Billy Cox was on bass and Jimmy Hendrix. And Jimi Salton told me, you know, we tried to tell Jimmy, Mike Jeffery's no good for you. He's stealing from you. There are offshore accounts. You got to get away from this guy. And so Jimmy decided he was going to, when the contract expired. And it was about to expire in September of 1970. Meanwhile, Mike Jeffery had taken out a life insurance policy on his cash cow, Jimmy Hendrix. Oh my god. And Hendrix supposedly, you know, suffers barbiturate poisoning. I'd take a nine, I think they're called Vasperax or something, these barbituits. Nine of them, seriously. And he aspirates on his own vomit. Now, when they wheel him into St. Mary Abbott's hospital in London, the attending physician, Dr. John Bannister, first thing he notices is Jimmy Hendrix's hair is soaked in red wine. His clothes are drenched with red wine. His lungs are filled with red wine. Now, there might be a little bit in the stomach, but not enough to cause him to aspirate on that much red wine. He basically concluded, he didn't even know who Jimmy Hendrix was. He didn't know. He just saw this, you know, young black man in the emergency room. And he basically thought this guy's been drowned. He's been drowned in red wine. Sounds a lot like waterboarding, something very familiar with. So a lot of suspicious things going on with Jimmy's death. And again, that's a common theme, a common thread in my book is this rush to judgment. Young rock star, suicide or accidental overdose. Let's move on. Same thing happened with Kurt Cobain. Same thing happened with Brian Jones. And even Elvis. Now, is the desire to off them is so they control their rights? Well, with my Jeffrey, and again, let me say this because of his intelligence context and involvement in the intelligence community, I don't think he would have been able to pull that off the cover-up without some help from people in high places, meaning, you know, MI6 or whomever. But my Jeffrey was indebted to the mob as well for tens of millions of dollars. And he knew that he was about to lose Jimmy Hendrix. Jimmy Hendrix was not going to renew the contract. So it was not like insurance policy. I believe in that case. Wow. Wow. Elvis like that as well. With Elvis, and you know, it's unfortunate because, and we just passed the 49th anniversary, next year is going to be pivotal because the autopsy. His autopsy was sealed for 50 years, next year is the 50th anniversary. And that's never a good sign. Yeah. We just got to seal this time. Everyone's dead. Whenever we never go, we're going to seal this for this long. That's never good. Yeah. What the other thing that's sad is Elvis has become kind of a caricature. You know, we think of Elvis overweight in Las Vegas. Or he faked his death and I saw him in flipping burgers at a Burger King in Kalamazoo. Elvis is alive. He faked his death. I present the case that Elvis, in fact, was murdered. And there's a number of things going on. First of all, this rush to judgment by Dr. Jerry Francisco, who was the medical examiner in Shelby County, where Memphis is located. Dr. Francisco was also the chief medical examiner when Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in nine years earlier. And there was a rush to judgment there. In terms of the trajectory of the bullet that killed Dr. King and where it may have come from and so forth. And we know that whole case was a cock up and a setup as you alluded to earlier. So Dr. Jerry Francisco immediately rushes to judgment. Even before he gets a toxicology report back and says, "Oh, Elvis died of a heart attack on the toilet." And then they had three toxicology reports performed, two of them. And this was the other portrait of Elvis. Oh, he was a hopeless drug addict. And Dr. Nacopolis was feeding his habit and he should go to jail. Two of the toxicology reports found therapeutic levels only of prescribed medication in Elvis. The third toxicology report is a real outlier. And it was performed at the Bio Sciences Lab in California. According to that toxicology report, it's very strange. They claim Elvis had something like seven to 11 times the lethal amount of coding in a system. Well, that's complete BS. Everybody around Elvis knew he was allergic to coding. It had an anaphylactic seizure or anaphylactic event many, many years earlier when he had some coding. He never went near it. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of his prescribed medications. They were very careful. Everybody knew that. In fact, I quote a Dr. Dan Warleck in the book Warleck attended the autopsy. It's not all sealed. We know this from Warleck later. He held Elvis's larynx in his hand during the autopsy. Imagine one of the greatest voices of the 20th century has got the larynx in his hand. There was no sign of inflammation or swelling or an, I mean, if you have coding, an allergy to coding, your larynx swells up. No sign of that. They also dissected Elvis's heart, something like 300 times. One of the most studied hearts in human history. There was no sign of some impending cardiac event. Was Elvis a little overweight? Yes, he was. But he had underwent a very rigorous physical exam just weeks earlier because he was getting set to go on tour at the time of his passing. Once again, in fact, the day that he died, he was supposed to perform in, I think, Portland, Maine and begin another leg of his tour. But that physical exam, he was given a clean bill of health by the life insurance company. There's a lot of questions. There's also Elvis's involvement with the FBI. The presles were involved in an FBI investigation called Operation Fountain Pen. Vernon Presley, Elvis's father, he was the victim here, just to be clear. Vernon Presley was trying to sell or lease one of Elvis's private planes. He had two of them. One was called the Hound Dog One and the other was a Hound Dog Two. He was trying to lease or sell Hound Dog Two to this company, which was a front for the mob. And so the FBI were trying to get Elvis and or his father to testify. Now, was he necessarily the star witness? Did it all hang on Elvis's testimony? Not necessarily, but do you imagine Elvis Presley in the witness stand, testifying against these mobsters? Not not a good story for the for the mob. Also, Elvis is performing in Las Vegas because his manager, Colonel Tom Parker, not his real name and he wasn't a Colonel. He was an illegal immigrant from Holland, came to the United States, snuck in, may have been involved in manslaughter. He could never leave the country. That's why Elvis never went on tour around the world. Elvis should have been everyone. I think he, I think what he died he had like a million dollars in the bank because Colonel Tom Parker took 50% Sam. Have you ever heard of thing? I heard of such a thing. A manager taking 50% of every penny you earn. So Colonel Parker, like Mike Jeffrey, was also indebted to the mob. He ran up huge gambling debts in Las Vegas. That's why he had Elvis performing their nonstop to pay off his debts. FBI also infiltrated Elvis's entourage. I believe with Elvis's permission. And we're spying on the mob in Vegas and the mob knew it. And they're saying to Parker, you better do something about your boy. You know, he's spying on us. Elvis was a spy? Well, people inside his entourage, maybe even members of his backup band were FBI agents, they were spying on the mob in Las Vegas. So they kept pressuring Colonel Tom Parker. You better do something about your boy. This is not good. And so Parker was feeling the heat, but also Colonel Tom Parker. Now, today we take it for granted merchandising and you see an artist on t-shirts and buttons and bumper stickers. This was in its infancy in the late mid to late 70s. It was just starting. And Colonel Tom Parker formed his own corporation to market Elvis this way. And he was making a killing. Elvis t-shirts, Elvis buttons. And Elvis was starting to wear down a little bit because Parker, like Jimmy Hendrix and Mike Jeffrey, was running him into the ground. If Elvis was too sick to perform because he had the flu, Parker would say, you get him out of bed and get him on that stage. They would stick Elvis's head in a bucket of ice to revive him. And Colonel Parker realized at a certain point, you know, this is too much trouble. He's worth more dead than alive. So that's Michael Jackson. The same thing, he was about to go on tour. Michael was about to go on tour. Before the off tour. The Kurt Cobain stuff seems to be popping up again that they reopened. No, there's a, yeah, we can get Kurt Cobain. I also want to get into the Robert Johnson and Gary Patterson selling of the souls real quick before we let you go. Kurt Cobain, what are your thoughts? Well, it is timely because I think it was earlier this year, maybe February. I want to say, or late 2025, there was an independent team of forensic analysts. These were not court appointed. They basically sort of deputized themselves and decided to petition King County and Washington, where Seattle is located to see if either the DA's office or the police or the medical examiner's office would reopen the case. They refused. So the case remains closed. And if Kurt Cobain was, was cremated after his death. So, you know, it's, it would be difficult. There are people that you, you could panel a grand jury and put some people on the stand. No question. So there's some, there's the, the whole timeline around Kurt Cobain's death. He's discovered April 5th in a room above his detached garage that had been converted into a green room and electrician found him, sprawled on the floor with a shotgun and of course, blood splatter and so forth. In a suicide note, so called, and supposedly had something like two to three times the lethal amount of, I'm going to say brown because the H word I think is verboten on, I don't want to get you in trouble on YouTube or wherever, but morphine, it metabolizes is morphine in the blood stream. We're expected to believe that he had two to three times the lethal dose in a system yet still managed to take a shotgun, which is a very, a cumbersome weapon, stick it in his mouth. And I don't know if you're, if you've handled a shotgun, if you're a hunter, imagine sticking the barrel in your mouth and then trying to reach the trigger with your other finger. You can't do it. It's very, well, if you can, you must have arms like Abraham Lincoln or something. But in addition, there was a flash suppressor attached to the end of the barrel, which adds another six inches. So okay, so maybe he pulled the trigger with his big toe. No, he was wearing shoes. He had his shoes on. So there's that. There's also the what's called the blood back spatter. And that's blood, blood pattern analysis. So when you, when someone is shot, the blood, the back spatter goes towards the source of the force. Or the source of the, in this case, the rifle. So there is back spatter. on that flash muzzle and his cobanes one hand was very close like he was holding it supposedly by the flash one barrel the by the flash suppressor the barrel. There was no backspatter of these blood droplets on his hand which should have been there which is interesting. Also the amount of I hate to be graphic but the brain material you would expect to find you know on the walls and so forth. That seemed to be there wasn't as much blood as we would have expected. So you know was the was that seemed staged perhaps. Also if you've got two to three times the lethal dose in your how do you manage not only to manage that weapon but also his whole the whole drug paraphernalia kit had been neatly and tidally you know packed away and moved to one side you know you put the needles back in the case and so forth. That's very strange and then you have the so-called suicide note which was found near the body had been stabbed into a flower pot into the soil with a red pen. The first chunk of the of the note doesn't really read like a suicide note it's more like you know I'm walking away from the business I'm sick and tired of it. He was basically saying to his fans thanks for everything but it's time for me to step away I want to spend more time with my daughter. So there's that that's 95% of the note the last 5% doesn't match at all. In fact three again these are not court appointed these are independent handwriting analysts have looked and said they don't match. The 5% of the note seemed to have been tacked on it doesn't match Kurt's handwriting and in that 5% of the note he talks about oh Courtney and Francis Bean you'd be better off without me and that reads like you know a suicide note. Now their lawyer Rosemary Carroll was recorded in a conversation with investigator Tom Grant and in that recording Rosemary Carroll reveals that she found what she called practice sheets in Courtney loves backpack allegedly reportedly. Oh my god as if she were trying to practice Kurt's handwriting these are all allegations it's never been proven in court and Courtney is a you know denied any wrongdoing in the case but that's what's out there so we also know that Kurt according to Rosemary Carroll the lawyer was planning on changing the will in fact it had all been drafted but he hadn't signed it yet that would have directed all of the royalties to Francis Bean his daughter not to Courtney love remember after his death I mean Kurt Cobain is consistently listed among the top earners among you know dead celebrities his estate would have been worth billions of dollars so we also have the testimony of a character by the name of Eldon Hoke who's stage name was Elduche now we have to take this with a green assault a grain of salt maybe not the the most credible of yeah he was a filmed a documentary by Nick Roomfield called Kurt and Courtney that was released several years after Kurt's death on film Elduche claims that Courtney came to him and offered him I forget what the amount was $10,000 $25,000 to kill Kurt with a shotgun Elduche said he laughed in her face and said you're not serious and she allegedly responded I'm as serious as a heart attack several days after that that filming Elduche was found dead on a railroad tracks on the railroad tracks yeah and there's so much there's also some weird shit with Dave Navarro that and like Dave Navarro this revision is history of him like he tells his famous story about how he got beat up at a Republican convention but what nobody knows is that his dad was a this the speech writer for Reagan like he was a roller Dave Navarro Dave girl okay he said Dave Navarro oh sorry Dave Dave girl my apologies everybody Dave girl thank you Johnny yeah well he also has language about selling his soul and like a rolling stone art oh yeah it's really creepy too yeah really creepy and now how he's had basically two band members die on him the one guy with the heart the last drummer that he forced him to get the shot yeah and like and that like it's really crazy but there was a lot of stuff going on you know him realizing it Courtney was was more than what he thought her connections to the CIA going back to the grateful dad her dad what her dad did to her what was done to her in these mental facilities really dark shit how the CIA user as kind of a cockroach want that to infiltrate these drug scenes introduce everybody the heroin and it's like crazy to me dude how dark that shit really got and how he was gonna kick out Dave girl he the rumor was Dave girl was out in the band and Dave girl has very elite connections through his father and like his father and Courtney loves father were supposedly the bankrollers of Nirvana and the movement of Nirvana to help usher in grunge and kick out like raw heavy metal and like this is back in the day where there was no internet so like if you didn't get radio play you were dead nobody knew about you there's no way to keep it now it's like it's harder for people like Gundam style that guy still crushes it because the internet yeah so I still crush it because he has he has the internet to connect with his fans though he's still in their face if this was 20 30 years ago nobody be talking about signing more because out of out of side out of mind so it was a totally different time man and it was like it's just like oh man it's so creepy and dark and like just listen to Richard talk about like I don't think people realize how many of these guys die like like we always we again we just talked about that hate and check what's her name Johnny panacea and how she just comes out about this this this this this like she was 18 and she was forced into a bedroom by the female on the boat to hook up with this old rocker yeah and her ex-husband was with a bank a Barclays bank and according to some Epstein files allegedly I guess her husband took part in some of these trafficking you know parties and so forth the clips goes are also yeah I've been associated with trafficking out of the Ukraine it's dark bro I want to know I mean who runs the show here right it's it's Satan is running the show and and I I'm a Orthodox Christian I believe I believe in angels and demons and an unseen world and I know that may sound I don't know off-putting or to some people but that's I believe that is the truth I believe at a hundred percent and you know and in the book tales from the rock and roll twilight zone I don't claim that I've found the truth necessarily I'm just I'm asking questions when we're talking about Elvis and Kurt Cobain these cases need to be reopened and re-investigated Brian Jones another example founder of the Rolling Stones found dead at the bottom of his swimming pool brought Jimmy Hendrix we mentioned you know there's so many many others rushed to judgment and I do also I believe in in the influences of the occult whether it's done maybe somewhat innocently for marketing purposes it's an invitation nonetheless and when you keep knocking on that door even if you think you're just being silly or funny or it's you know from branding purposes eventually something's going to answer yeah talking about Cobain too you know his suicide note is addressed to an imagined Bada this imaginary friend it's like the first word of his which is bizarre it's a front he says in the suicide note he's like since age seven I've not been able to appreciate life basically I've been it's been a downhill thing since then and that's when he his parents got divorced and he invented or this imaginary friend appeared in his mind and and and it's he literally addresses his suicide note to Bada whatever it's a party like a demon or something it's weird Bada it's weird but yeah if you go into the suicide note based on what Richards told us he wants step away and spend time with his daughter and then he's like you're better off without me he's so right about the handwriting too by the way once it gets into that like at the very last few lines is completely different and by the way Courtney love got in trouble again for setting up a a murder of her daughter's ex fiance her daughter gifted her fiance at the time a guitar from Kurt and then it didn't work out and the guys like no dude I'm keeping the guitar that was a gift to me and Courtney wanted back and she got busted basically putting a hit out on him. - Really? - That did not make it into the book, I wish it had, but something else that I learned after the fact, and again, the book is based on the podcast, which I produced back in 2018, and I tried to update certain things. I only learned fairly recently that the person who performed the autopsy on Kurt Cobain, he's since passed 2002, a base jumping accident in Switzerland, but he later, after Kurt's death, said that he should have recused himself from the case because he had a friendship and with Courtney Love. Now, if you read his statement, you might infer that it was more than just a friendship that they were intimate, can you imagine? I mean, you can't make this stuff up. The guy that performs the autopsy on Kurt Cobain is allegedly intimate, or having an affair with Courtney Love, come on. - Unbelievable, dude. - And it's the whole '27 Club. Like, how many of them died at the age of 27? - Why is it 27? It's super interesting. - Jim Morrison died there, so did Mac Miller. - What's the numerology with that? One of my favorite movies of all time is Crossroads. It's, I remember watching going, "This is such a good movie." And it's about a guy who sells a soul and tries to get it back, right? By having his new guitar sensation, battled the devil again. And it all comes down to Robert Johnson and all that story. Now, how much of Robert Johnson do you think is true the lore of that? - Well, the Crossroads, the idea of making a deal at the Crossroads and just to set the scene. So in the 1930s, Robert Johnson is a sharecropper, the son of a sharecropper. And he's living in the Mississippi Delta. Life was, you know, pretty harsh, pretty brutal. And so you're ticket out, one of them, and there weren't a lot of options, was to become, you know, like a Delta Blues player and play in the juke joints and have all the attention of the lovely ladies and all the whiskey you could drink for free. You know, it was escapism. And so that's what Robert Johnson wanted for himself. And he hung around some pretty credible musicians. One was named Sun House. And eventually they kind of chased Robert, Johnson away because, you know, he tried to learn to play, but he was to be kind. He was mediocre at best. He disappears for a year. And a year, so a year later, and Sun House and his band are in a parking lot at a juke joint, taking a smoke break in between sets. And all of a sudden, they hear this incredible music. This incredible guitar work and they rush back into the, into the bar and up there on stage with his back turned to the audience, playing the Delta Blues, like nobody else, was Robert Johnson. And it was really Sun House who came up with this idea that he must have made a deal with the devil. Now, the thing is Robert Johnson was very coy. He never said, "No, it's not true." He kind of encouraged that. And then, and it was reflected in his songs, you know, "Hellhounds on my Trail" and the crossroads. And then he would admit that, you know, he learned, he rehearsed. He practiced endlessly at night in cemeteries. And so then, it was sort of inferred, I guess, to fill in the legend that maybe the devil himself was his teacher, was teaching him to play in the cemetery. Now, the idea of a crossroads is very old. It goes back probably further than medieval Europe. It may go back all the way to ancient Greece and Africa. There's all, and not many cultures, but there's a story of the cursed crossroads. In fact, during the witch trials in Europe, when a witch was executed drowned or burnt, they would often bury the remains at a crossroads because it was considered unhallowed ground. You couldn't put them in a cemetery. So the, according to the legend, on a moonless night in Clarksdale, Mississippi, at the intersection of, I believe, it's Highway 61 and 40 something. There's a marker there to this day. You can go to Clarksdale, Mississippi. You can see the spot. And he shows up on a moonless night. He turns his back to Old Scratch, as they call it, the devil in the deep south back then. Old Scratch, you turn your back to him and you hand your guitar over your left shoulder. And the devil does a particular tuning and hands it back, and you've consummated the deal. And again, he shows up a year later and he's this brilliant guitarist and son-house cannot believe it, it just says it's not possible. It's not possible. So how did this happen? Well, shortly after achieving considerable fame, and I think he recorded several dozen records, he makes kind of a rookie mistake in a bar one night. He accepts a drink from an open bottle of whiskey from a stranger. Now, you have to understand, Robert Johnson was enjoying the ladies. And there were a lot of jealous husbands and bartenders and boyfriends out there. The next day, Robert Johnson is on his knees in utter agony, howling in all like a hellhound for like a day and a half and he finally dies. It's believed he died from either strickener arsenic poisoning, probably placed in that bottle of whiskey from a jealous husband or was that old scratch, using that individual to collect his debt. So that's the legend. How much of that is true? I can't answer that. I mean, again, I think we all make, they call that the Faustian bargain. I think we all make Faustian bargains. Or we're at least tempted. Do we sign a contract in our own blood? I don't necessarily think it's that overt. But people have to make up their own mind as to what happened to Robert Johnson. How did he turn from a mediocre at Baskotarp player? A year later, he's just like a genius, a musical genius. And he's considered like the grandfather of rock and roll, the great grandfather of rock and roll. And his music has been covered by Eric Clapton and Led Zeppelin and the Almond Brothers and so forth. And they all have stories to tell about that song, The Crossroads and strange things that have happened to them. And I've talked about Robert Johnson and the Crossroads on a number of programs. And always something happens. I was just down in Washington, DC. I was on OANN, one American news network with John Hines. And I got to the Robert Johnson story. And one of the studio lights just went poof like that. Just, it broke, it went out. So they had to take 10 minutes and replace it. Another time I was on Coast to Coast AM, talking about the Crossroads and Robert Johnson. And I was doing the show remotely from the Toronto Affiliate and all of a sudden the internet went down in LA where the show emanates from the broadcast studio. And I was knocked off the air for an hour. It happened another time while I was recording a podcast on my, I was using Adobe Edition. I recorded an interview with Matt Swain, an author, and the way files looked good, finished the interview, hung up the phone, went back to listen to it. And it was just all gobbledy-gook. It was just useless. I couldn't use it. I had to re-record the interview. - That's crazy. - So, God help us on this episode. John, do you better secure this shit? I got the backup ready. - So who is this? I don't know if I know about our Gary Patterson. - Yeah. - Who is that? - Our Gary Patterson, I dedicate the book to our Gary. He was my first body collaborator and friend. And we were about to launch this, originally this idea that became a book started out as an idea for a terrestrial radio show called The Spirit of Rock. We were about to launch the show. He called me on a Friday, May 16, 2017, to tell me the meeting that we had lined up with the General Managers, the following Monday, had to be rescheduled because he had forgotten that that was Memorial Day. And so again, it's a Friday night, May 16. It's pitch black. I remember distinctly looking out the windows. And this is spring. I mean, it gets dark here up in Toronto. You know, maybe eight o'clock, eight thirty. And, but it was dark. I was, maybe it was nine o'clock, ten o'clock anyway. He said some strange things during that phone call. Like, you're a really cool dad and I just thought, well, you know, that's strange. But Gary was affable. He never had a crossword to say to anybody. But at the end of the phone call, I said, you know, so it's Memorial Day weekend, are you gonna have a barbecue? Because that's what I think of, when I think of Memorial Day in the US, I think of parades and family barbecues. And for the first time in the years, I knew I'm maybe a decade or more, he seemed really curt and crossed with me. And he said, no, there'll be no barbecue. And I thought, oh geez, did I just step in a family dispute or a land mine, what's going on? So I just left it there. Call ends, the next day I discover he dies. I thought that's impossible. You know, I just talked to him last night. Anyway, I fly down to all of her springs, Tennessee for the funeral. There's Gary decked out in a stainless steel blue coffin with his fender guitar on a stand in front of him, his brother Michael, the brother Mike standing there in the receiving line, went up and introduced myself. And I didn't want to tell him about the phone call They had that night. the last, you know, the night before he died, I said, "Mike, what time did Gary pass?" And he said, "Oh, it was about five o'clock." And I'm thinking, "That doesn't compute." Five o'clock. On the Friday, I talked to him. He was dark. And I didn't want to divulge. I just thought it was weird, not the place or time to say, "I got a call from your brother after he died." So then I asked him. I said, "Well, the last time I spoke to him, I said I asked him whether he was having a Memorial Day barbecue." And I said, "Gary got kind of cross with me." And he just said, "There will be no barbecue." And as soon as I said that, Mike looked confused. He said, "He said that?" I said, "Yeah, he said there'll be no barbecue." I said, "What's that all about?" And he said, "That's odd." He said, "The day Gary died, he spent all afternoon looking for a barbecue. He finally found when he spent $500 and he spent the rest of the afternoon up until he died, putting that thing together on his backyard. He's back patio, rather." So he died before the barbecue. And his last words to me, "There will be no barbecue." I'm conflicted by that every day. And it's been nine over nine years now. I don't know what to make of it. It doesn't square with my faith. We don't believe in communication from the dead. I don't know what happened. The thing is, I checked my phone just to verify that I spoke to someone on that Friday that Gary had called me. There was no incoming or outgoing calls on the Friday. What? Nobody called me. But my wife witnessed it. She saw me wandering around the house with the phone to my ear. And when I found out Gary died on the Saturday morning, I rushed upstairs to her bedroom and without me saying a word, she saw I had this ash and look on my face. What's wrong? She said, "I said Gary died." And she said without me prompting her, "You were just talking to him last night." And I said, "I thought so." I said, "I thought so, but I just checked my phone." Nobody called me on Friday. I didn't call anybody on Friday. But on the Wednesday before the Friday, there was a call from Gary. I remember distinctly. We talked about the upcoming meeting that was going to happen in Knoxville. I remember exactly where I was. I was picking my boys up from Greek school. I was parked on Bayview Avenue at the All Saints Greek Orthodox Church waiting for them to come out of Greek school. Gary called me. There was a log on my phone for that phone call. But nobody called me on Friday. And I called no one. And yet, to the listen, I could be misremembering everything. I freely admit that. I have no answers for what happened. But to the best of my ability and the best of my memory, that is the way it played out. And I have no explanation for it. Wow. Now, in your notes, are you saying he went down to a crossroad? Yes. So let's, we'll back up a few years. And Gary told me the story that, and he loved to talk about the Robert Johnson story. And he knew all about it. And one day, he's having dinner with some of his fraternity brothers and their girlfriends and wives. And one of them, knowing that Gary's an encyclopedia in terms of the Delta Blues and the crossroad story, says, Gary, let's all jump in our cars and go down to the crossroads and make a pilgrimage. And so they do. And of course, who's either in different cars and they go down there. And they find a cemetery in close proximity to the crossroads. Is there a specific cross road that everyone knows is the crossroad? Yeah, there's a marker there. It's, it's the intersection. I think it's highway 61 and route 40 something or other. You can go there and there's an actual marker. They're saying, this is the crossroads we're, we're according to legend, Robert Johnson, you know, made the deal and so forth. I mean, it's, it's, it's legendary, right? So Gary went and goes down there and they find a cemetery and they're imagining this is where Robert Johnson was practicing at night with the devil and learning how to play. And all of a sudden he looks over to his writer to his left and one of the girlfriends of his fraternity brothers has this big stick and she's whacking at this big black snake that is sitting on top of a tombstone in the cemetery and he goes over there, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? Now this is like he said, I think he said it was late autumn and typically you don't see snakes, you know, out, you know, in the summer, they're out sunning themselves. But here was this big black snake coiled around this tombstone and she's whacking it with a stick and he's, you know, he's saying, hey, remember the, the snake in the garden of Eden and so forth, not a good idea, not a good idea, whoa. Anyway, in the meantime, they're snapping pictures in the cemetery at the crossroads. They get home. None of the pictures turn out. Not. But the other thing is they decided to, one of the front fraternity brothers has an idea that they're going to collect a memento of this and they scoop up, like the crossroads are now paved, but you know, I guess on the shoulder or whatever, they scoop up some dirt and they each, they have little baggies with them and they each take some dirt home from the crossroads. And in the, you know, in the jumble of getting in and out of different cars, Gary gets separated from his bag of dirt, he gets home, he doesn't have his bag of dirt, but he's, but he gets home and the phone starts ringing and one of the girlfriends of his fraternity brothers says, you know, I don't know what the, her boyfriend's name was, let's call him Joe. He says, Joe just had an aneurysm. We've taken him to hospital. It turns out he recovered. He was fine. Then he gets another call from a girlfriend and, and she's in hospital and she just had a heart attack, but she's recovering and she's going to be fine. Then he gets a call from another one of the, the ladies fraternity brothers girlfriend or wives and her house security alarm is going crazy. So at this point, Gary decides to play a little psychology and he says, you know what? Take the bag of dirt, get it out of the house and dump it into the river, which he does and everything settles down and so forth. Oh my God. So all of these things are happening. Eventually, Gary has a birthday. One of the fraternity brothers brings his bag of dirt as a present. He's put it in a nice little glass tube with a little brass plaque or something on it saying, you know, the crossroads and the date. And Gary kept that on his desk right next to a crucifix, crucifix that he had that was apparently blessed by the Pope. So I guess he figured one would cancel out the other, but yeah, a lot of weird things happening with the crossroads. That is insane, dude. I tell you, don't dance with that shit. Don't even joke about it. There's like a whole like I'll show you how they have it. So Richard, we're going to end up here. But I got to tell you something. So I'm blessed. My daughter, she six and one of the things we like to do together is go watch movies and I've been taken into some movies and I went to took her to minions versus monsters. And I've always loved to despicable me. It's really funny and it's good for adults and kids. But so we go see this movie. And they're running all these trailers for movies coming up because despicable, the minions first monster supposed to be big. So they're packing as many of these movie trailers in as they can. And you're seeing over and over and over and over again, like animations for kids and particular ones that I think are geared towards little girls. Almost every one of them is about witchcraft. Yeah, like this is programming very early, getting little girls to think it's kind of cool to look into witchcraft. All it's always about a girl who it doesn't fit in is in one of the norms, which is what everyone feels about. You see that lot in girls. I wasn't one of the cool chicks or the hot girls or the popular girls. I'm an outsider and it's they all discover witchcraft and then suddenly they have super powers and can take on the world in despicable me or the minions. And I'm sorry if you haven't seen yet. I'm not going to give away the plot, but I am going to talk about a moment in the world. This one creature brings out basically the book of the dead. Wow Egyptian book of the dead and does sorcery to conjure other monsters. It's so baked into children's entertainment that's really crazy to me. Yeah, the entire culture is Luciferian. It's all Luciferian and Malachian. It's all that. It's like I've been saying this forever. What we're experiencing right now. It's like sometimes I feel like how lucky are we like all these things that conspiracy theorists and religious people have been talking about forever is happening even if it's not good, but it's like it's it's happening in front of our eyes. And you know, the old gods want to come out and play. They're tired of sitting in the back. They want to be worshiped and they want sacrifice. And we're seeing it happen right here. And every kid's movie is about a girl who does witchcraft now. Yeah, it's all bail worship. Essentially, if you want to get right back to the ancient gods of the Canaanites, it's bail worship in different, you know, different costumes, I suppose. But in the whole new age movement - Really? And the big thing now is, you know, this manifestation, you know, you can create your own reality. You know, there's just, there's no God has been totally expunged from the public square. I mean, that's been going on since the early 1960s when they first got rid of prayer in public schools. Yeah, there's just the hostility towards the church. For example, up here in Canada, we've had, it's crazy. 100 churches have been burned to the ground by left wing terrorists. And the government doesn't even know that. That's all Christianity too. It's really weird to me, not to get too weird and too off. And then I got one more thing I want to bring up to you, is how many of these atheists are also Zionists. It's very weird to me. It's very weird that the people that don't believe in God also simultaneously believe God promised them certain people land. It's very satanic to me as well. And you're totally right. So the last thing I want to bring up to you, how old are your kids? There'll be 20 actually in a couple of months. But yeah, we took them to all the despicable me movies and that was one of my great pleasures to take in my boys. So your kids might be too old for this, but there's a series called Captain Underpants. Oh, yes, I remember that we had the books. It's an old series. I read the books. It's old series. In the movie that I watched, these two troublesome kids, these troublemakers and kids are about to be expelled. Do you know what they do, man? They MK Ultra, they're principal. It's literally MK Ultra. They stick a ring in front of his teacher's face. On the ring is, they've hijacked the symbol for the universe. And we all look at it as a pedophile symbol, but they take that symbol on the ring, put it in the principal's face. And they MK Ultra him. And then he becomes this like this other person who runs around town in his underwear, thinking he's a superhero. And he causes great chaos. That's MK Ultra. Yeah. And then he has no memory of it. Yeah. He goes about his daily life as the school principal or whatever. Yeah, classic, classic. Just straight up programming, dude. It's crazy. And then they tell us about what they're doing in the culture. You know, and because I guess there's some sort of packed part of the ritual is, you've got to you've got to sign your masterpiece, right? You've got to tell people what you're doing. And that maybe they feel that absolves them. Well, we told you, we told you exactly what we're doing to you. Yeah. So we're off. Scott free. Yeah. I agree, dude. And it's like this thing with in the one to hear, but the reason I think we have input major boots on the ground in Iran is that the sorcerers can't get us to give them permission. Like any other time in history, this war would have been full on already. You know, yes, we have little, they can do little things here and there, but major movements, which is like what 9/11 without traumatize us like you say. And then we give them permission because they're so traumatized. And all you hear of these Zionists keep another 9/11 is going to happen. It's like, why is it only the Zionist saying this? I don't see any other group of people talking about another 9/11 happen. I think they've overplayed the hand. If it happens, everyone's going to agree who did it. And you're not going to convince anyone it was Iran. It just doesn't make any sense. But the reason Trump can't get boots on the ground is because King Solomon and his rules that he made with these demons is that one, they they have to tell us what they're doing. And two, they need our permission. It's the famous, it's the famous scene from a lost voice. When they had vampire, I can't you got okay, are you inviting me and you got invite me in and that's a very ancient ritual. It's, you know, when you cross the threshold in your house, it's called the threshold covenant. And that goes back. That predates Judaism and Christian. Okay. Okay. That's what they would put blood. They would put blood on the on the threshold. Yeah, it's ancient. Hey, Richard, I'm going to be honest with you. One more one of my favorite episodes ever did. You're a wonderful, wonderful interview. You could tell you've been doing it for a long time and you're a pro at it. So one more time. Tell them where they can find your book and anything else you want to promote. Tales from the Rock and Roll Twilight Zone came out July 9th. It's available online just about everywhere. Indigo, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, books, a million. You can get more information at the Rock and Roll Twilight Zone.com. There are some very wonderful endorsements from people like JJ French from Twisted Sister and Mark Farner from Grand Funk Railroad and Steve Lukather from Toto and Ringo Zoll star band. There's a couple of sample chapters there at the Rock and Roll Twilight Zone.com. You can also order it from the website. My podcast Strange Planet drops Monday Wednesday Friday. Strange Planet.ca is the website. Strange Planet.ca. Strange Planet on Instagram, TikTok, my YouTube channel, @StrangePlanetRadio. I love you, open door to come on anytime. Good luck with everything. Good luck with the book. I can't wait to read. I'm finishing this book. This will be the next book I read. And I'll we appreciate you coming on, man. Anytime, Sam. I'm going to be an L.A. the end of the month. Maybe we'll get together. I would love to grab lunch, buddy. Anytime, dude. All right, guys. Let's break down the episode. All right, guys. What do you guys think? Richard Sarah, man, that, I mean, I learned so much shit in that episode. I can listen to him talk forever. He's great. I can listen to him talk forever, you know? And you could tell he had, I imagine that book is fascinating because you could tell he could have gone deeper and deeper. We just ran out of time because that guy's great. Yeah. It's a fascinating topic, too, because they're just as many rock and roll stars as there are there stories like that. Yeah, isn't it crazy how many of these famous people die like really early? It's and the ones who don't die just have to tour and do everything forever. It's dark, man. It's like, what's the worst fate? Just being cut, have to be on the road at 90, like, oh, what is going on? Are we taking that direction? He's like, that seems like hell, too. Are we taking that up 40? Yeah, I mean, 40. You don't want 40. That sucks. Dylan even calls it his never-ending tour as what it's called because it never stops. Yeah. I mean, your whole audience is going to die before you get done fucking Torrid. He's on tour with Willie Nelson, you know, the outlaw country tour. I want to see you 200 years. I went to see him last year and Willie was sick. So Bob Dylan had a cover for Willie Nelson. I imagine that's something that happens a lot when you have two 90-year-olds. Yeah, I just, I'll do it. Did you watch the movie, The Dylan Movie? No. It's not bad. It wasn't bad. Not great, but not bad. But it's crazy. All that shit. Did you know anything about Jimmy Hendrix like that or Elvis? Like, we just bought he OD'd. The thing about him looking like he was drowned was, and then that guy being intelligence. That was, that's fascinating. I wonder, the thing about the Beatles is always, I wonder what, because he kind of explained it in the way that really got through to me because I had always thought like, what, because the Beatles message mostly was benign to a positive, you know, it's like love and and anti-war. But when he says the medium, it's more about the medium that resonates, you know, it's not necessarily the message that they were. But it's also this thing, Johnny, where they capture you in your fandom. Yeah. And then they introduce you weird shit. And then you guys can be like, what the fuck is that your anxiety kind of gets high? And then you get said, go, what's that about? Oh, what's that darkness about? And it was definitely, you know, when he goes, we're bigger than Jesus. That's definitely some demonic shit. Well, it's funny though, because he comes out in the pot. He apologized for that. He was like, I didn't mean I just meant like we're really popular. You know, it's what, it's what he came out to say after because there he read the story, he claimed that the church was declining in popularity, which it was around the time. And they were, of course, in their ascendancy. And I think by the numbers, it might have been true that more kids that were listening to the Beatles and their preacher. I understand what you're saying. I mean, it's like who put in the backwards messaging in that subliminal stuff where you would play it backwards. And I know you're going to say, oh, it doesn't sound like you someone's still kind of found it. Someone was like, let me play this backwards and see what I found. The people who found it, I would be more suspicious of then. Yes. And like the guy who just goes on a radio show and puts that out there and then all of a sudden, Johnny, does that kind of answer some questions for you about maybe it was just a sigh-up to sell Absolutely. A marketing tool. Yeah. Because I feel that way about the polls, exactly what he said. Do you remember when Jamie Foxx everyone thought he was going to die and then the weird looking Jamie Foxx talked just when he has a movie about cloning coming out? It's creepy, isn't it? Right, but they're not above that shit. They kind of learned, well, obviously, the Beatles were way before that, but you know, there was a time when TMZ was taking down these giant stars. They took down Tom Cruise, they took down Angelie and Jolie and Hollywood freaked out. So they bought up TMZ and then TMZ just started doing stories on empty calories celebrities and they would just destroy these reality stars who didn't care because they just wanted to see their name out there. And then it just became this train wreck kind of way of promotion, right? And then because the Chelsea Handler show was on the each channel where all these reality stars were, all the comedians started seeing that. And that's when all the comics are getting in trouble for dumb shit they said. That wasn't even that bad. And then after that, which was just used for promotion, right? Like when Leslie Jones, they announced that she is on Ghostbusters. That's when the video of her, her joke she used to do, which I had a similar joke to about first round draft pick moms. We both had that joke and then they said that was insensitive to slavery and stuff. It was just a promotional thing. And then Cerny Life uses that as a way to promote for the longest time. They were using that as a way to promote the upcoming season. Shane Gillis was that, right? Yeah, Shane Gillis said the K word when it comes to juice. It's the only word I won't say because they don't say it. But they used as promotion for the new season and then everyone tunes in for the new season because of all the Shane Gillis stuff. They did it with my friend, another friend of mine that was on Cerny Life. That became say outrageous shit and then have all these bots act like you're upset, they're upset about it, which gets everybody talking. It's a magic trick. Yeah. Yeah. It's all, yeah, because anything that your energy is, yeah, that involves your energy being kind. Yeah. Yeah. Once you get at that high stake, you know, it's, it's more easily used, I think. You can get my events there right there, dude. Word, word, debate is, okay, first of all, September 1st, I gotta get something for that. September 1st, my special drops on YouTube.com at gas digital, I'll have a link on my website for that. That drops there. And then September 12th is Word, word, debate. And I'm in Lawrence, Kansas, then I'm in, uh, go keep going down, then I'm in Looney Ben in Tulsa, then I'm in Dallas had Truth or Con, I got changed that skank fast and closing out at the mothership. So come see me out the mothership. Check out all my dates, word, word, debate too. 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That reminds me of that. Remember that one, that subway or that train crash and people kept getting phone calls and they got those people were alive inside and they were like, he keeps calling me and they would tell the fireman. And they were like, someone's got people with just a miss calls or whatever it was. Yeah. In Japan, they see people from that train crash all the time. Oh, really? Yeah. Where? I saw that. Like it's walking around. Yeah. They see ghosts from a crash. A train wreck. It's in Japan. We've shown the video on Doomscrolling. Check out Doomscrolling. It's about to go parabolic. We're doing the weirdest shit. I don't know if YouTube will let us be seen. You know YouTube is Doomscrolling with Sam Triple. Let's see if it comes up. Nope. It's everybody but ours. There it is. There it is. There it is. Yeah. I mean, it's starting to get fired, dude. We were really cooking with gas and then we got a little-- little too. Yeah. That's the one we just dropped right there. Doomscrolling. What do you guys think of that thumbnail? Too much going on. I think it's too much. Not enough tips from me. No words are too full. And Doomscrolling is not legible. I don't like you, Johnny. It's just that-- it's a little busy. It's a little busy. But that's OK. I mean, dude, we used to get 25,000 on there and then we just started talking too much shit. It's just-- It's just that BSI that got 45, that was a good one. That one, that one. I go up-- what was that one? What was that one about? That got 45. Oh, shit. Oh, Sam attack on stage. That was-- Oh, that used to attack on stage. Yeah, it's drama. People love drama. Yeah. [LAUGHS] Unbelievable, dude. [LAUGHS] Why can't it just be a good person? Anyways, enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest Broken Sim. I wish this wasn't at the end of the debate because it's such a good moment that I wish more people would see it, although I think probably they will and clips and stuff. But anyway, this is Andrew, it's a bad, bad moment for him. Yeah, I'm fine with those things if you want to do close. Well, I also would just-- if I may ask a question, which one of the charges against-- or all of them, do you think Tyler Robinson is guilty of? You think of the specific charge? Yeah. Yeah, fine time, fine time, that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk. Yeah, but of the seven charges that he's being charged. Yeah, can we list him real quick? I'll tell you exactly which ones we'll pull them up. Well, do you know any of the charges that he's up for right now? Yeah, of course. But I want to make sure that we have them listed. Yeah, but, like, can you name one? Because my general perspective is that you don't actually care about this case. You're not following these. Yeah, that's the question. If you're going to engage, and you're going to say the evidence is overwhelming, that Tyler Robinson is guilty, I just think that you should-- All right. Can you tell me one-- And let's do the charges. You can really hang out. This is a great doctor. - No, no, no, no, you just got to ask me. - He's right there. - He's going to be in the hot seat. Please just ask the question. - This is fair. - Can you be? - Since you've been following the case. - Stop. - Okay. - How disingenuous is that? He can't name one, so she's got a name all seven. - Yeah, and he knows. He knows that he, that's his only way out. If somehow he can get her on the same thing. - Yeah, and then it becomes she doesn't know all seven when he doesn't know one. - Yeah, exactly. And it's a technique that would work most of the time. - But canis is uniquely prepared in this debate. - You name one. - Yeah, you name all seven. - I'm happy to do that, but can you name one? - I think he's been charged with murder. - That's actually interesting. - Okay, great. Now name all seven. - He doesn't even, this is like. - Name all seven. - And I, I think I, then do it. - The first charge is aggravated murder because that's what carries a death sentence. - So murder. - No, that's not, that is literally not murder. - Okay. - The second charge is the felony discharge of a weapon. The next two charges are for obstruction of justice. The next two charges are for witness tampering. And the fine. - Unless a specific charge is though. - That is them obstruction of justice, the obstruction of justice, witness tampering, witness tampering. - Okay, and there's no other specifics to them. - Well, I can tell you why he's being charged with it. - No, no, no, just the charges and then seven. - Yeah, I see if the bad thing is when you try to be an A-hole and it doesn't work. - What's the seventh? - The last charge is violence in front of a minor. - Okay, got it. I think your team would like to pull up the seven charges that he just asked you about. If you guys want to pull that up, just to confirm. - Aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, obstruction of obstruction of justice, which is counseling for five and six tampering with a witness and counseling. - No, seven violent offense in the presence of a minor. - I said offense in the presence of a minor. - I didn't notice something. I just was curious about if I'm just wondering. When you pull that, your phone just before you ask that question. - Somebody can't text you that question. - You can check my phone. - I'm just curious. - No, you can absolutely not. I have not had one communication with a single person, not even my producers who are in there this whole time. We were here. You want to check my phone? - Let's take it. - Let's see. - See if anyone was texted at all during this debate. - You can pull that up. - I don't need to see. - So the last one has nothing to do with it. It's just a compliment. - I haven't even read my tech messages. - That's a compliment. - He's reading them. (laughs) - You're okay. You'll give me a program. - Yes. - You too, 'cause after that, I don't need to read it. - Any other techs? Could have been telegram, could have been-- - Oh, I have a signal, you can check that too. I only have signal. I don't need to, like, I deeply care about this case. I don't need to protect it. - I get to know if you deeply care about the case. I just, you know, I have my other question is about Steakhouse receipt. - Yeah, I mean, Steakhouse receipt could be problematic. It's possible for sure. - Yeah, if you don't know, she claims to have a receipt from Steakhouse that puts Tyler Robinson at a distance from where it makes sense that he could have been. She claims to have talked directly with the Steakhouse, yeah. And they said that his card was run there and she's putting that in her timeline. She's, you could tell she kind of walked back from it a little bit. She's like, it's in Mike, 'cause Andrew kept saying that you're putting that in the official timeline. And she's like, well, I'm putting it in my timeline. Until I hear otherwise, he kept on a nailer on that. Do you think it is your gut tell you that maybe that's fake? - I think it's possible, yeah. - Why? Why do you think it? - I don't know, it just seems too convenient to me. - Yeah. - It just seems too convenient. - That's it. - Yeah, I mean, like everything is energy. And I'm not saying it's not real, but I go if something could be problematic, that could be it. - Intuition. - And it's something like, if you're trying to either lead Candace or Candace, trying to lead people to a certain belief system and then later on it's gonna come out and none of it's true. That's a great bit to use to do that. So I think it could be problematic. - If this trial goes in a way that makes convinces most people, like even in our circle that he did it, is this it for like Candace's brand is toast, right? In that small hypothetical, that sliver of possible realities. - She's always got, there's still people who listen to Dambangino and he's just full of shit. - But she's stick to this. This and I thought she was just a stick to Brigitte Macron. But if either of those go bad, her brand is, like if she loses in court, again, if Brigitte Macron takes her labia out in public. - She should, like Tim Dillon said, show the pus. - I just show the pus, bro. - So here's the Nick Flentess thing I wanted to share. I'm really curious what you think about his opinion here. - If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at youtube.com/samtripple. - Meet home, boy. - Aaron, home with your mom. (upbeat music) - Drink from the faucet of knowledge. - There's loads of people everywhere. (laughing) - That's some age of Dambangino in my life. (upbeat music) - Wake up, Aaron. - This is only the beginning. - You just feel my mind. - Tim Foyle, hat, Tim Foyle, hat, Tim Foyle.