#101 Ruby Schleicher - AFLW Star & Media Personality

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Yes, I have just built a, I said that isn't branded. It's going to save just build a sauna. Yeah, it doesn't need to be branded. It's not a sponsor. Well, no, the sauna is, everyone knows, no, they're the best ones to get. So we've got to know the sauna. You are a walking, talking billboard. I'm going to brand the unbrandable. Yep. So build that, which is harder than you think. So just a bit of your plonk it all together. It comes in a flat pack and you basically put it together. And I can't get there and you're supposed to be able to be anyone with any sort of knowledge of that sort of work. Someone just super handy. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm super, super handy. But you've got to get like an electrician in there, plug it up and stuff, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Spark in because you've got to do the proper installation of the electrics, of course. But other than that. You've got a tunnel update. It feels like that's a bit of a party. Yeah, still packing, still finding a little drug packets and it's a disgrace. Kids, these days. Top spare bottles and stuff around the farm. Yeah, reckless. Tunnel update is I've spoken to other people about this. I spoke to Andy Hor from Yellow Wine Fleet because he's the mining specialist. Yeah. He's got the horizontal tunnel and he's advised me to go slow. So anyway, that's about getting the right equipment. We're on a call with him the other day and you're explaining to him what the type of rock is. He asked what, what rock you got there and you're like, oh, it's some kind of soft rock. And it's a blue gray. So he's like, oh, you know, is it like a limestone of some kind? He's like, no, no, no, it's hard, but it's soft. And now it's time for the Bowenheads Brewing Company Six Pack for a taste of the good times. You can't go past the balance, crowd pleases from howie and the crew down a bow and head. What is the Bowenheads Six Pack segment? What is this is what we come up with six? So when you get a beer, you usually get a slab or a six pack. So we're getting a six pack from the fridge or from the local. So we're cracking a beer for each one of these. Yeah, it's six topics. Each, so topic number one, what do you offer us? So I can people know Mark Howard's involved down there at Bowen Brewing? Well, they do now. Everyone does. He's one of the most amazing down there. This podcast. Him and Tom. The two gurus down there. Doing the right thing. Yes, I have the first test speaking of howie. Assess test. First asses test. You define job on Fox down there, calling it as well. Over in two days. I think it's the first time, is it the first time a test since 1921 was over in two days? Um, first time since 1921 and the shortest by balls, balls since 1888. So basically since the inception of cricket, this is bloody unbelievable. Could you imagine, imagine it, um, Obtostadium. They've catered for, they would have catered, they wouldn't have catered for day five, but they would have catered for days three and four for sure, certainly three. And I think days two and three were on a Saturday and Sunday as well, which is obviously prime time for attendance. Yeah. So the leftover food is probably all right with the alcohol because they can put that into the next event and that'll keep it in cool storage. But the food and stuff that, uh, and the loss of broadcasting from both Fox Sports and also from Channel seven. You know, the lost revenue from that would have been just enormous. And, and when I speak to people about the wickets, people that know cricket really well, they go, oh no, the wicket, I think I spoke to Willow, your mate. The wicket was also knows nothing. Yeah. The wicket was pretty good. It was badtable and it was defendable and it was playable. It wasn't doing all sorts of things off the wicket. Um, a lot of it's been put down to by these so called experts. Um, that's the way they play cricket now is they everything's turned into a 2020. Basketball, uh, big bad. I don't know if basketball is a lot of shit. Basketball never, it's so much crap in all my life. What is basketball? There's more than Adam Gulkert's did for his whole career. That should be gilly ball. Um, so a couple of standout performances from the Australian perspective. What do you think? Man of the match was stark. We took what six for a something on the first day and then Travis head 12 in total. Travis heads historic innings, which is saving up now. I was kind of watching in the background. I had no idea what was just under watch. Thunder watch when someone like Travis head. That's why I like gilly so much. I want to watch when someone like Travis heads just go and add it. It's just fantastic. Just plonk at him in all directions. There's no ball. He can't hear. He's seeing it as big as the watermelon. Um, it's absolutely bloody fantastic. It was great to watch. So you reckon the two day test is good for cricket rather than bad? No, no, no, I don't think it's good for cricket at all. Because I think that's been the controversy. It's like, you know, this isn't test cricket. It's, you know, yeah. No, I think it needs to go. It needs to go into the third day at least. Um, it's, we can't have test cricket lasting two days. Mm hmm. Just can't. There's, you know, 40,000 pommies over in Perth wandering around sightseeing now as a result of no cricket. And of course in trouble, I'm sure. Yep. Next can. Yeah. What do you got next? Metro tunnel. Yep. Some more Metro tunnel. Well, after last week's baking of the Victorian government announcing it was opening on time. And even early, an absolute load of cods wash. More news is hit our desk with some of the tunnel station entrances that aren't actually opening at the same time as what the main part of this on three. AW. So there's, I think there's the, uh, the Flinders Street one and maybe the, uh, the branch once and there it's not opening. Yeah. For months. For months. And but yet it's, it's fully open and fully operational. They're telling us. But the biggest one of all was, uh, I see just into Alan happily unveiling one of the stations where you walk. You walk apparently a think it's 75 meters from one station to another and you walk under to get out of the rain and you can come up in a shopping center or something. So it's a 75 meter walk. But you've got to, you've got to get your micacard and clock on and clock off for the 75 meter walk. So they charge you as if it's a train trip to walk 75 meters. Oh, people just walk walk on ground with me. She's a five-ground. They won't. Anyway, they've quickly, she realized she's made a mistake and she's quickly reneged on that. Um, this government, I tell you something about this government, Harrison, this government and this goes for all government. And this liberal or labor. This will be positive. If you've been in government a long period, it is not good because you become complacent. You become dictatorish and bullish and you, you're not answerable to the community. You are just brushing and pushing things through and you don't give a shit what the public actually want. And that's what's happened to this government. They've been in for too long. I guarantee you the liberal party and I, I don't bury for them, but I'll win the next election in Victoria. Yeah, good style. Isn't that when you're in there for too long? Next one. Your thoughts on the F1 season. So when we're recording, we've just had the Vegas Grand Prix and this will come out after the Qatar. So there'll be another race to go in and there's one more. Yeah. Your thoughts on the season because obviously the whole of Australia were behind Piaestry. It's still, it still can be won. You can still win. My thoughts are it's about two or three races too long because they extended the season this year for the first time. My second thoughts are for Oscar Piaestry and the debacle with his land and our estimate. I still cannot fathom and many experts better than I have gone, no, there's definitely nothing happening. There's definitely nothing happening every term I turn on the sky broadcast. All I hear is the Pommie broadcast is pushing for Lando Norris, mind you. But how can one car of the same team be suddenly down in power? I can understand it if it's like a Red Bull team where Sonota and Verstappen and they drive differently and therefore the cars are set up in favour of Verstappen and it doesn't suit Sonota. But not so with Piaestry and Norris. It's just the whole thing is weird. It doesn't sit well with me. Then the cancellation a couple of weeks ago of their first and fourth was it on the podium. A second and fourth on the podium. I think it was. That probably helps Piaestry more than anything. But the Vegas, more about the Vegas Grand Prix. The Vegas Grand Prix in comparison to other ones. Looks dead and uninteresting. It looks like no one's there. It's freezing cold at that time of the year in Vegas and you can tell. It doesn't look like there's a lot of people in the stands to me. I heard that they couldn't fill the stands and ticket prices plummeted. The value of. them. It is, it is we that it hasn't got the support that it has everywhere else in the world in Vegas. Just an update on the F1 stuff. So we spoke about this a few weeks ago when you were saying that they were turning down the engine of PS4 and we posted a social clip. That is by far one of almost our best performing clips on social media just due to the hysteria. It is reaching fans in the UK. We've had like a cross-tick-tock and Instagram probably over a thousand comments and hundreds of thousands of views and they are into you. There's, there's, I reckon it's 50/50. 50 of the people are supporting you saying yes, there's something going on or definitely there's something going on and then the rest are like, oh, these silly Australians something. It is honestly astonishing and people have been really getting into you. You becoming famous in the UK I think because of that. Well, I don't give a shit. What the homies think. It's the same about their cricket. They, what do they say? It's the weakest Australian. One of them said that's the weakest Australian team ever to perform in an Ashes mate. Cop that. You are now one kneel down and you look like an absolute bunch of rebel. Next one. Yeah. Yeah. Another local 40 pre seasons. Yeah. What about this? You were asking me about this the other day and I said because I said, yeah, I got trained so I wanted to. This was this is a two weeks ago now. So mid November. Why are we started in mid November for local amateur non-professional sports teams? This is just garbage. It really is. We start games in April. It's been proven over and over again that even at the elite level that they only need about an eight to ten week period to get ready to compete at the elite level. So why at the non elite level, at the social level let's call it at the club level, do you need to be start training in November for a season that doesn't start until almost April? It is beyond. I've got. I've got. I've got some thoughts. The only argument for I can see is like it's good for for guys and girls who are starting pre season to catch up and be social. It's it's good for your mental health. But when you think about it for the local footballer, they spend catching up with your mates at home is good for your mental health. But you're about to go into silly season. So barbecue and at the pub and at the disco and at the picnic and at the horse race. I finished making my point. We're about to go. So you train for five week block, four week block pre Christmas and then you go into silly season. You've got bloody eight Christmas parties. You've got Christmas with your family. You've got new years and you'll probably take a couple of weeks off. You're going to have four weeks off and you're on the piss every second day. You're going to be back to square one in mid Jan. So what's the point? It's an absolute waste of time. Don't know why they do it. It's news to me. NBA, what did you I know what I wanted to talk about in the NBA. This is number five. This will be a number five from our Baron Hedges Brewing. Gidey, who is the most prominent Australian sports person right now? So this isn't NBA topic, but no, no. So I was thinking, I was initially thinking Gidey because I think Gidey has done such an incredible job with the balls. He's now their number one point guard without any doubt. And he's the inspiration behind the whole team. So I think he's just doing fantastic and he looks in complete control and he's found a team that really wants him. So love what he's doing. But would you say that it is him or Piaestry who has more weight at the moment? I think it's the formula one because it appeals to a broader international market than perhaps. But here in Australia, we love that. I think we pride ourselves on enjoying and consuming all sports in Australia, or lots of. So I think yeah, they are kind of neck and neck. Gidey's had a great start at the season. The balls are going okay. Or in the last week, they haven't been that great in noise. But yeah, Gidey's found a home at the balls and dominated in Piaestry. He's had one of the best years by an Australian. Never. Dyson Daniels is going really well as well in the basketball. Yeah, he was on about a set. I think it was a 70 game streak that he just fell short of. With the one steal every game, which is within, I think the top five or 10 all time for the first streak. He to me, Dyson Daniels, I just love his composure and his fluid nature in which he plays the game. Isn't it so smooth? Everything he does. It doesn't force it smooth, unforced and never looks under pressure. No, it's a good. He's bloody good. It's a good take. He's good. What else we got? We got one more. Yeah. We got one more. So I thought W. Yeah, bit of a season review. So we're recording before the A4W Grand Final between Brisbane and North Melbourne. It's a Grand Final replay. I reckon North will shit it in. They haven't lost a game in probably 20 odd games since mid last season. So, but what are you thinking of the A4W right now? First thing I'm thinking, I'm disappointed in my team, Melbourne. Yeah, we're Taylor Harris. Taylor Harris and formerly Daisy Pierce that they couldn't get to the Grand Final. They pushed the kangaroos all the way. No team had got without leading at three quarter-time hours. They were up by goal and they, and they, they instead of continuing to play, they were the way they were. They then started defending a one goal lead. But no team had got within North Melbourne within 29 points. And they lost by down. They lost by down. She was doing some good stuff. She's bloody good player. So, AFLW North Melbourne, why have we got the same three or four teams in contention every time, every year? Not quite sure. Same in the men's, isn't it? Why that is. Not really. They come and go a little bit more. But, you know, has it improved? Yes, it's improved a little. Still think we brought the teams in too quick. Talent pool will be getting better and better. I've said this all along. This is no news. You know, 10 years time when we got pathway coaches that are really good with the women. Which we do now, which we're starting to get now. We will have, we'll have quality women's football. What all sports leagues I think need all around the world is, is stars. And I think they're now starting to build that. Obviously, early days, it was those pioneers like Daisy Pierce and Taylor Harris and Aaron Phillips, all those. You've now got people who are blowing up. They're great footballers on the field, but also off the field and they're leaning to that social media realm. And then now becoming big names off the back of that is Ascentra from Collinwood and Matilda Shultz from Port Adelaide. And that's, I think the AFLW need that more than ever. And we'll continue to need that to help grow the game in the other. The other girls won't like, you know, the media picking out five or six girls. But that's what needs it needs stars. You need at least one star in each team for young girls to want to go and watch. So I'm glad that the grand final and the prelim finals were sold out. So that's good news and a good sign. I'm glad they kept it at what's called eye compark these days. Because better to have something full. And I did hear the argument from the girls that they wanted to go to Marvel and have not the top tier empty. I think that would just look stupid. Let's fill the ground where you are. And away we go. So that's the Bowenheads Brewing Company Six Pack. And speaking of AFLW Superstars, we have now got Collinwood Captain Ruby Schlyser. Oh yes, she is an absolute ripper. Fun Fox footy personality. She was just like you. She was just like me. She was like the daughter you never had. This was a fun conversation. And as I said before, Harrison, our special guest, there are Ruby Slysher. Slysher. Slysher. Slysher. Slysher. You know it at the first time. If he called W Ricking, you'd be one of his favourites along with all the others, like who's foes? Oh, she is because I think Ruby, I'm right in saying this is a strange question off the top. But you don't play with any. You don't play with any agendas. You just go and play for the sake of loving the game. That's the way I read you. Yeah, pretty much. There's nothing else behind it. You just want to be as good as you can. Yeah, pretty much. Like I think that's AFLW in general though. I think from particularly the girls who started from the first year, we were never playing for the money or anything like that because it was bugger all money. So it is. It's just like a real love of the game. I still get caught up in, I can't believe this is my job. Just going out and having a run, like how good that I just get to run out with the girls and kick a footy and just try to see how good I can be. I can be kind of think. So you played in the inaugural game. You're there from the start, seeing it all. What if you could gauge in percentage terms the improvement from day one of the overall competition to now? How much do you think it's improved? 300%. Yeah. Yeah. Like honestly, the group of girls that was out on that field for that first game, you've got girls who were plumbers during the day. And you know, girls who are genuine, what they're doing now, I think there's two of us at Collinwood who played in that first game, still playing for Collinwood. A lot of girls just aren't playing at all anymore. Some of them were 34 years old already out on that field. Like they really put together a group of girls with, I think it was maybe eight weeks of preseason and then tried to see out on the field. So it's like when you think about that and now you think about the young girls coming in like your Ash Centris who just have pure football skill who have grown up watching your Nick Day Cossars and that kind of silky ball movement. It's pretty different to the group of girls that were thrusted out that first season. And I interrupted pathway. Yeah. I was going to say about the uninterrupted pathway. I think we're about to start to see the players of that under it pathway. In other words have played every age group they can. and write through to, I think we're about to see a big influx of those players come through. That is going to make another big difference to the level of skill. Yeah, definitely. I think we're seeing sort of the first year of it now. We've got these young players, I don't know, Sophie McKay, who is sisters of Abbey McKay, Colton, Captain, and she's in her first year absolutely ripping it up. C.P. Fish, Sydney, obviously, sent with us these girls who uninterrupted have just always been footballers. Some of them might have played other sports, but football was always their main sport, and they're just natural with it. They're so natural. Some of the most natural move you've ever seen. And just bring this real spark and this excitement that our soul of girls probably have had to either develop across our career or are still searching for. You know, we've got a lot of girls who have been playing for 10 years. They still might not move like supernatural footballers, but because they're work ethic, they've managed to make a career of it. So did you start as a junior playing footy? Like did you play under 10s and 12s until you were told that you can't play with the boys anymore? Yeah, so I picked up a footy when I was four, and just my older brother, I'm one of four. My older brother is the eldest, he's five years older than me, and my old man coached him from his, I was kicked to und-18s, so it was the junior coach all the way through. And as early as I could remember, I just wanted to join in, just wanted to pick up a footy. So as soon as I was old enough, dad threw me into Oskick down at Willettson Junior Footy Club and played there until. I think Mandra were on from used to play Willettson. I think we're in that same league at that time. Did you? In the late 70s? Yeah, right. Right, decent trip for a junior footy game. But yeah, no, we used to play it until under 11s was the only girl in the team of all boys, which I absolutely loved. Those boys didn't treat me any differently. They'd sort of. Like I was better than most of them, that's before that age before you hit puberty. And, you know, you did, you were one of the best in the team, and then it got to the age where I had to pick basketball or footy, and footy wasn't going to go anywhere for me, so. But you. Basketball was a big opportunity for a female then, because representing the Opals, at Olympic level, making state, and ultimately Australian under age teams was still a big lure. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I love basketball. Yeah, yeah. I think because football, when I was probably six years old, I remember wanting to be a professional footballer, and I fully believed that I was going to, like when I was asked, "What are you going to be?" I fully believed I was going to be the first female to play men's AFL football. Like I just didn't know any difference. But obviously you grew up, you realised, "Okay, you know, that's not going to happen, but basketball, I was always playing alongside football." Yeah. I picked it up when I was four or five, and that I really loved that as well, and that was probably my true love all through high school. That's. I was terrible at school. I wasn't academic at all. I took the absolute piece with it, like I was never rude to teachers, but I didn't give a rat to that schoolwork, because I knew that I was going to be a basketballer. What kind of basketball were you? I was a point guard. Yeah, yeah. Point guard, and I was actually like. In control. Yeah, always. And I was a floor general, like, in tell by, you know, short of the word, or. No, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, point guard, I was actually always like, I'm five foot nine now, so like a pretty tall girl, I'd say. But I was always the shortest on my team until year 10, and then I just had the gross birth. So I was. Oh, this point guard, this short-ass point guard would speed my whole career until I was about 15, 16, and then I just shot up and became quite a tall point guard, but still had the skills of a small, so kind of worked my favourite that, but no, I love basketball. And I think, for me, it was a tangible thing I was going to be able to do was make basketball a career, and the trajectory that it was going on until I was about 17 and a couple of centuries. So you're right in Melbourne to play football, and tell us. Was what happened with basketball first? Yeah. So I fractured my back twice when I was 17, playing one was two weeks into my. leading into my under 18s national kind of also. That's not bad for, or stressful, I did. Stress, so the first one was I did a layup in a scratchy, between W.A. Metro and W.A. country two weeks before the under 18s nationals, and got fouled, landed on my feet awkwardly, fractured my back, but didn't know with fractured it. Like, didn't get a scandering thing just a little, yeah, I'm a bit sore, went over to the nationals, played, but was like busted for it. Just, you know, some. I think the most I'd played was a half a game. We usually, I'd be a starter. And I was captain of W.A. that year, and I just couldn't stay out on the quarter. I was in too much pain. We came back, got it scanned, turned out there was a fracture there. And then six months later, fractured the other side under stress. So that was kind of when you're talking to colleges and America and stuff, and you're trying to figure out the plan post-classical. We're going to do that, that's over here. No, exactly. They were going, we're not going to take a chance on a full ride scholarship for someone who can't stay out on a basketball court, you know. So that kind of put a halt to that. What did you think colleges. I was talking to. Well, this is where I sort of ran into a bit of trouble because obviously you need to be academic to go to the really good colleges. And that is where I ran into a little bit of trouble. So, but no, yeah, I was talking to a few colleges and, yeah, we're sort of having zooms with a few of them and stuff. And it was kind of, yeah, once I had to go back to them and tell them that, yeah, not looking good, I'm probably going to be missing a bit more sport. They sort of went, oh, I don't know if this is going to be the one for us, which was disappointing. But, yeah, what do you do? Can you imagine being one of these colleges on Skype listening to the way Ruby said? I'm the best player. Yeah, she uses Australian as I can. Exactly, exactly. So you arrive in Melbourne at what age? 18. 18, and home sickness? Yes, terrible. For a while, yeah. For a while, yeah. Oh, first, until I played a good football game, first four or five years. Oh, that one. Yeah, yeah, like I. Just a four or five to play a good one. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, that was terrible. No, not terrible. I had the attributes to be a good footballer, but I didn't know. I thought I was working hard. I wasn't really like, I wasn't fit, you know. I thought I was fit, but you're living out of home the first time. You're like, I can do whatever I want. Like you're not feeding yourself properly. Like you probably. Particularly given those early years of AFLW, we didn't have the resources to understand how to be an athlete, like we do now. Like now you come in and there's all these resources around us. Who comes hands on running? Hello, hands on. So, he has gone bound and over. Well, you've come a long way. I mean, to be named Collinment Captain this year for the 25 season, best in first in July of Australia, from where you're describing yourself. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah, it was. No, it was definitely. Like, I think I was always. I always had the football ability, but I just didn't set myself up to succeed. Yeah, I had to do it. Like, moved out at home, just sort of enjoyed being out at home, thought I was working hard. It wasn't really. I was in and sort of out of the team. In those first few years, probably was due for my break out year, maybe the fourth season, and just got riddled with injuries. And then it was the fifth season when I came back from injury that was sort of my first. That was my first all-Australian year, and it kind of all clicked then, but that's because I sort of went home. Well, it was actually over COVID, and I went home, just got to work, got myself as fit as I could, played with East Free Mantle in the waffle for a few games and got my confidence up, and came back and was able to do it at AFL level as well. And then from there, it's just kind of continued on. And I think it's probably just a belief in yourself. I'm up to that point. The first few years, I was just going, "You know what, maybe I'm not cut out for this. Maybe I'm not. " "You were a really high pick 140 or something?" "137?" "137?" "137?" "Yeah, yeah, so the second-last pick in the very first draft, yeah." So how did that work? So we just missed a link between you hurting your back and no longer wanting or having the ability to go to college to play basketball. How did AFL come back into your lap? Was it just like, "Oh, they're going to start up a comp?" "Yeah." "It's good down there and put ourselves in the ring." "I started, I went back down to East Free O." "Well, I went, I'd always go to my brother's waffle games at East Free O." And he was playing down there and I'd always kick the footy at halftime with my old man. And there was this old fella once that came up to us at halftime, he goes to East Free and you can kick a footy, you know? "You can really tell if a girl can kick a footy." "Exactly, if they're a natural, like, fluent motion." And he goes, "Gee, she kicks it well, you know? There's a girls team at Downed East Free O'Mann." Or we had no idea, we didn't know that women or girls were playing. And he said, "Yeah, you should go down." And so we sort of went down and had a look and I was probably 15 years old, turned 16 and I was like, "Right, I'll make it work around my basketball whenever I can play a game." "I'll just play a game." "Yeah, yeah, but basketball always took priority." So if the two clashed on the same time, I would play basketball. If I could play footy in the morning and then go play basketball in the other, I'd do that. So there was weekends where I'd be, I'd double up sometimes in the same day, sometimes opposite days. "What he had stress fractures for the two?" "Yeah, I know, but honestly, it was some of the best basketball I played." "Yeah, right." "And the two, the way they compliment each other, like my basketball just took off." And I think it's because I was playing football as well and you're playing with this aggression and you're almost activating this other side of you and this other sport. So I was in it anyway and sort of filtering back through, but basketball was always the priority. And then when that sort of fell through, I was playing my first year of league for East Fremantle, you know, freshly, well, 17, turning 18 and our midfield coach at the time, Nikki Harwood, she, you know, it was announced there's going to be an AFLW draft at the end of the year and Collinwood actually scoured her to come across and be the first midfield coach for Collinwood AFLW. So she is the one that sort of. She knew about you. Well, yeah, she was at East Fremantle with us and she said, you know, like, would you come across if I talked to them, would you come across and play for us? Because she saw something in me and, yeah, she was really the one that sort of convinced them. I mean, Wayne Seatman, who was the head coach of Collinwood at the time, he'd watched me play once. It was under 18's Melbourne State football. So I played one thing of under 18's with bugger or training under me because I was focusing on basketball at the time. And we got spanked in the grand final against Vic Metro. It was like 102 to 1 on the MCG. I was playing for W.A. Wayne Seatman was coaching Vic Metro and the idiot drafted me out of that game. That's all he watched of me. I mean, the ball was living in our back half. I was a defender at the time, so that helped. But, yeah, that was kind of when how that transition was made was Nikki Harwood said, would you come across and I thought, why not go over and. Yeah. So, they w a basketball representatives in the room. Yes. Not one of them. Just because of some similarities. The similarities. Yeah. And when she spoke about home sickness and the true with me as well. You were quite bad. Like, you were honest. You're not a cryer. Like I've maybe seen you cry twice in the long time. I'm a cryer. But like, you were up multiple nights, massive phone bills. What was it like for you, Ruby, that like that? Yeah, it was, yeah, for sure. And particularly because we, you know, it was 8 grand. You made for the first year, which you doesn't even cover, you know, three months rent in Melbourne. So I was working full-time in a cafe that first couple years. I, my first winters away from all my family, really close-knit family. And I just just, like, call Mum and just, like, cry. But, you know, whenever you need me over there, I'll be over there. I've got the most supportive family over Mum and Dad are incredible. But it was like, you just. But particularly when you're not particularly blowing anything out of the water in football, you're kind of doubting yourself. What am I doing here? Which is why I say it was the first probably four years, because you've got a lot of self-doubt. A lot of them just stick it out. Yeah. I think I always, I would go home and love being at home. And I'd bullmarse out having to leave Mum. I'd cry the whole plane ride home. And I would just be so sad up until I walked into the club again the next day, you know. And I'd walk back into the club and that sadness was gone of leaving home. So I think for me, I always knew that Collingwood was like, "All right, this is like another version of home for me. This is the feeling that I feel when I walk in. It takes over that home sickness feeling." Yeah. For sure. That's why I started Collingwood. Yeah. Are you a whole journey? It's always. I know that it's always been a place where I've kind of gone. This is where I'm meant to be. You've had an influence from other clubs? Yeah. Sorry. That offers from other clubs or in the. Yeah, there's a delicate question. No, there is. This is going to speak volumes to Collingwood. Yeah, no, no, absolutely. I think there's obviously with expansion and being in there from the first. Hmm. from the very first year. Yeah. When expansion came in, there were definitely teams that come knocking, but yeah, just the sort of thought, stick it out. Yeah. Yeah. So what's the next step for the. In the big picture for the AFLW? Those that head office have made you earn your stripes and you've got to achieve things as you go along to go the next step. What is the next step that the women would like for AFLW to be implemented? Play everyone once. That like. I see. That is the overarching. Right. We just want to play everybody once. Yeah. Once. That's an 18 game season. Yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it'll be 12 again next year. We need to hit markers attendance TV, all that kind of thing, to be able to think then trigger another game. Right. So, yeah, I think for us that is the overarching theme of. That's all everyone wants is like a really even competition. Like at the moment we play 12 games for the year. Like we play less games than old skickers and we're meant to be, you know, the best in Australia, but we're playing less games than junior footballers. So it's really difficult to develop. I think and the things are being put in place now, the OCS isn't a little bit more consistent around the parameters of what we're allowed to do. So, but it's really hard for say first, second years to develop and become really good football as sooner when they sometimes they're not even allowed to play VFL because they might not want to risk. You're really good young stars of with injury. So, why are we seeing the same 5 or 6 teams in the finals year in, year out? Is that to do with when they came into the competition because in the women's they came in at different times for those out there that don't know, did Norfolk start at once? Is that to do with that or is there something in the draft that we can do to fix this? Yeah, I think, I think first it's props to the clubs that they are. So like I look at say, a North Melbourne who came in and expansion side, they picked really good talent from other clubs, a Jazzy Garner from Collingwood who she was a good player with us, but she wasn't the Jazzy Garner, but they obviously saw that in her. She got really fit. She's now the best player in the league. And Ashredell who is getting 45 disposal every week, she was in their VFL program. And so there's these, there's teams that purely the way that they've developed their program like a North Melbourne is second to none. And then you've got teams like Brisbane who like Brisbane and Adelaide I'd say who in the very early years of the draft you nominated for the state that you wanted to go to. So if you were from Queensland, you would nominate to stay in Queensland or you could do what I did and nominate to go to Victoria or somewhere away from home. As of last year, it's gone to a national draft. So that's the first change is that now it's gone to a national draft, the only difference is, you know, they've still got the Suns Academy, that kind of thing. So there's a lot of talent in Queensland that will end up at Suns. But these girls who, you know, see Brisbane, they've all been drafted there and then they've stayed there. And that's props to them, the loyalty there because they've been a powerhouse. They've gotten so close to winning so many flags. You know, it's the same for Adelaide, they've ability to stay together, be able to draft from the South Australian talent pool and stay there and not worry about those players being touched. I guess the first step was making a national draft to make sure that players are, I guess, it's scary for them, but they don't know where they're going. Yeah, it's hard to say how to even it up. I think moving to a salary cap because at the moment we're still in tears, the tears system. So it's really hard to try and get gun players from other teams. All the visuals happen eventually, right? Eventually, yeah, I think, and the AFL will like plan for that and they'll work with the PA for that. But currently, we're still in a tiered system. So it's really hard to try and get players from other clubs across to your club when you've either already got your top tiered players filled out or you're trying to maintain, you're trying to retain really good players and bring in one more that could tell you to the next level. Yeah, so I think salary, making it a salary cap would make that a lot easier for player movement. I know. The second phase of this podcast is kind of that media, what you're doing right now, which is incredible. We're a deep admiration of what you're doing. Obviously, a channel seven man, so we can't talk too fondly of Foxfooty, but you're doing a great job and we love it. Right there. They taste doing a lot of shit for Foxfooty this year. I tell you that much, you made our job a lot better. Is that you're going to ask about that? Is that something that you were thinking could be a possibility or it's just kind of failing your lap like the, what do you think, did? It's funny, mum. I remember a moment when the basketball had fallen through and I was in my room bawling my eyes out 18 years old. No idea that there was going to be an AFLW draft yet. And I was just having that post school moment of like, what am I doing with my life? Yeah, 100% that typical, you know, 18 year old experience. I'm 10 30s, my own. I'm having that. I'm still having that moment exactly. I'm sure BT's as comforting as my mum was. But Mum just said to me, whoops, I've just got a feeling you're going to move away from Perth for one of your sports. I don't know what. And I just feel like you're going to get into the media. And I remember thinking, like Mum picked it and I just went, whatever Mum, like you don't know you're on the piece. Is your mum into astrology? No, she's not. Because that sounds something my mum would say. Yeah. Because you're a scorpion. Yeah, I think Mum's a fern believer of, you know, what you put out is what you get back. So you put out good energy, you get looked after in the world and I reckon that's probably just what's happened is there was a path for me. She's picked it early on. But I definitely, at that stage, there was nothing media wise. I hadn't done anything. It's not that I studied or anything. It wasn't until I came to Collingwood and a couple years in and I started, you know, I had a throw on my hand and go around, film the girls for the black and white show and they just let me go rogue. And I just really enjoyed it. I love having a laugh and probably not filtering myself as much as I should. But that's what people resonated with. And then. But so this is part of the attraction of what Collingwood is. what is. People don't understand that if you play for Collinwood, I think your chances rise in all aspects of other jobs and possibilities, particularly, it's happened to me. I would confidently say, if I didn't play for Collinwood, I wouldn't be in the job that I'm in. Yeah. I think it's funny you say that because I was, I remember being 11, 12 years old, not a Collinwood supporter whatsoever, a free mental supporter, did not like Collinwood. And I was, I remember being on YouTube watching the black and white show with Daisy Thomas running around with a microphone just because I thought this is really cool that they do that. And you see, like, I remember watching it and loving it and being like, that's really cool. But I wasn't even a Collinwood supporter. So I think it's like the reach of the club and how big it is actually playing for Collinwood that it's like even when you're not supporting them, you're wondering what's going on within the four walls. So I always laugh at Collinwood players, both men and women, when they want to go elsewhere, when they're telling the club, I want to get out or to pay me enough. I think the grass is not green. Yeah. On the other side, I can guarantee you. I remember the most part that they, most of them don't want to go. Yeah. It's kind of just situational. It's like a game. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is. It's like there's definitely, you can't fear like the connection of Collinwood and how involved they are in like the city of Melbourne, you know, like the connection they have across so many different communities and the people that you meet within the four walls is, is, yeah, it runs pretty deep, doesn't it? I mean, I think as footballers that you always got to be careful about who you meet in footy clubs because they're potentially your next boss and whatever job you choose to do. Yeah. They're probably more than likely your next role and you're already there, but is going to come out of someone you met within the footy club. Yeah. Yeah. We're all Collinwood people in this room. I'm a Collinwood fan. So we can't, like they don't get everything, they're not the perfect club. It's going to sound like to listeners that we're, you know, praising Collinwood that like they've had some their moments as well throughout the journey. But yeah, the media stuff. So once you started, I've heard there's a little bit of roaming rubs action that you are owe him some rights and as his manager, we may have to get some royalties sorted out. But so you go from running around Collinwood with a microphone to Fox 40, it seems like overnight, but that's not the real journey. Like, what was that journey like in the process? Yeah. So I got an internship at Fox Sports News 2022. I want to say it was. Yeah. It was 2022. Freshback from a six week trip in Europe and yeah, managed to get a internship there was 10 was looking my best, of course. And then yeah, it just was lucky that the AFLW had an internship set up for one player a year. So I was really lucky to get it this year. Collin Malloy had gotten it the year before. And yeah, they basically taught me everything you had to know. So they threw me in the deep end. I worked with a small team of there's four of them in the Fox Sports News team that work out of the Fox 40 office. And it was full time and I basically worked as a reporter. So I had no idea how to be a reporter. I like that. They just went right out. They sent you out with Tony Ascot who's been working in the industry for 40 years. Is it an absolute crazy man? Yeah, they send you out. They go right out. They go right out. Listen to a press conference report on it and I'm there going, shit, I got no idea what I'm doing. How do I even ask questions? Like I'm shooting myself. I'm lined up against across from roster boss. It's so cool to think. And oh my god, here's the scariest man of all time. If I ask one bad question, he's got like, oh, exactly right. And I'm thinking, oh, Jesus, I'm not even listening to the answer. Because I'm thinking just get your next question right. But then I've got to do a live cross and thinking, I didn't listen to a word he said because I was worried about the question. So I think they really threw me in the deep end. And that's why I'm very comfortable speaking on live television now because probably nothing feels as scary as that did. And then from there they turned it into a two year internship for me because they sort of saw a lot of potential in me being able to go on and read the news. So now I read the news for Fox Sports News in my off season. Or whenever I sort of have the chance, just sort of added an extra string to my bow. And then when the internship was up for obviously we went within the four walls at Fox footy and they sort of said, you know, we'd loved you to jump on for the broadcast. So this has been my first full season of doing that. Last year I did half the year just sort of tagging Sarah Jones along which she's obviously. Oh, she's fantastic. She's very much like you. She's very natural. She's a lot more polished than me, Bete. I couldn't meet that. She's been around for a while. She's got a great footy pedigree. She knows her footy. She does. She absolutely loves it. She is the perfect person to learn off because it's kind of like right. If she's up here with where you want to be, she is the absolute pinnacle of, you know, presenting sports in general. Is that where you think you want to go with it? Is it want to present or is it do you fancy calling the footy? I mean, my advice that you've heard me give this before on the calling part is that it's the part of the media that has longevity. Can you go through all of the callers and the history of the game? They've all done 20 plus years. He's talking play by play. Yeah. Where are special comments people that have come in unless they're exceptional, like, say, a Gary Lyon or Jason Dunstall or whoever it is. Richo. Richo. Yeah. They come and go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's something that, like I should do. I think it's probably the next challenge because you've got the words. Yeah. I'd have to work on the vocabulary I reckon, but no, I do it like it would scare the shit out of me. It would absolutely scare the shit out of me. And just the thought, it's just so, it seems so intense. And I'm sitting there, whether it's for triple M and I'm doing special comments and I'm like, geez, how do they do this all game? And think of different things to say, but it's definitely something that I go, I should do it because it scares me. I think you can do it. Yeah, you get to a point where you're probably looking for the next challenge. For me, the next challenge would be doing special comments on the men's game. So that would, for me, would be all right. That's the next thing that's scary to me. So I want to try it. And then hopefully when I get to a point where I'm comfortable with that, it's like, right, oh, where's the next challenge? If you know you're fully known, you're a man or a man or a woman. Yeah. No, you're 40. Exactly. I think I've seen, you know, it was particularly early doors when Daisy was the first female to jump on on that and you go, far out like that seems so daunting, you know, to be like a female who's been trusted in the box, but she had a hard time. Oh, God. She had a hard time. She was great at it. And but the shit she caught going through the process was just. But she didn't leave anything to chance. And nor does she still with everything she does. She is an extreme preparer. Yes. I kind of like a Bruce and Hamish, like you're a little bit more off the cuff. She is, I've got to watch this game. I've got to know these players like to the end degree. She's, she's an incredible, she's going to incredible. Well, a lot of the men out there are waiting to just gobble someone like that. 100%. Well, at someone now that I think is doing it incredibly is Kate McCarthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like the way that she prepares and the way she's willing to be absolutely cop it. Mix it. Put her, put her opinion out there. Don't like it, you don't like it, but I think she's absolutely brilliant. She's been so good. I enjoy working with Kate. Yes. So easy. I think the thing about being a commentator and having someone like yourself, there is a special comments or Kate, is knowing that when you stop talking, when I stop talking that you've got something to say, no matter what question I ask or what the topic is, that is the key I reckon. Yeah. No, definitely. And you know yourself if you come into a game underdone. You know yourself when it's a shit feeling. Yeah. It is, there is nothing more daunting. Yeah. So I think that's probably, yeah, the element like that homework, something's just knowing that right, I'm going into this and whatever's going to happen, whatever's thrown at me, I'm ready for all that because when you're underdone, it's just like, oh God, one of my, one of the arm of like natural chemistry and character. Like I think it's, and I probably don't have the right words for this in a very male dominated industry and think of a triple M box audience. Like, you know, they're hanging shit on each other. Yeah. And then there's a woman in there and it kind of changes things a bit but someone like Kate or yourself can go in there and you can be self deprecating. Yeah. You can kind of, you can kind of mix that same energy in the room. And that's really what the audience is looking for. Right. Like you don't want to change things too much, but you just slide in like nothing changes. Yeah. I think to be able to take the piece out of yourself, particularly in environments like that where, like, you are going to get taken the piece out of it so you may as well take the piece out of yourself. You get offended, you're out of the door. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, be able to not change your personality but adjust the degree of what you're showing. If I'm doing Fox, we have to be a little bit more proper and you can't take the pieces much. Yeah. To then a triple M where that's what they want you to do. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. It's very different isn't it? The two types, like, radio, just love natural, say what you want, say it how it is. Whereas for some reason, not that anyone's ever said anything to me or you, I'm sure. Yeah. They've said you must say this. That's never happened. You just feel an obligation to be a bit more straight up and down. 100%. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know. I think because you sort of go, all right, the grandma and the grandpa are probably sitting at home watching this. Yeah. Are they tuned into triple M on social or maybe grandpa is, you know, maybe four or five. Yeah. The kids watching this one, they probably are. Yeah. You know, are they going to understand the jokes that we probably not, you know? Yeah. Excuse me for asking this question, but you said early days, obviously the AFLW paid now when you were a wage to live off. So you were. working at a cafe now and you don't just say what tier you're on or anything. Are you okay with the money you're on and you were able to support your own stuff and save and potentially buy house of whatever your own best is? - Yeah absolutely. - And are you having to supplement that with other income outside the media? - How many tiers are there before you enter four tiers? - Four tiers, so the minimum, I reckon the minimum wage now, we're in the final or the second last year of the current CBA and the. - It ends 2027. - 2027, yeah. So the bottom tier I think are now at minimum wage. So these girls, and there'd be I think half the list on tier four and maybe. - Yeah it's two on tier one, six on tier two, six on tier three and then whatever's left, maybe 14 on tier four. - Yeah, something like that. So it is getting more livable. It also depends where you are right. If you're getting drafted to Sydney and you're on tier four, that's hardly gonna be able to afford to live there. - Yeah. - So it also depends where you are. Like for me, I bought a house last year, so in St. Kilda, so. - Jesus, you look blind. - No, it's not all bad. - No, it's good. Obviously in a very fortunate position as well, having two incomes right. - Yeah. - Both Fox and football. So there's a lot of girls who aren't in that position. We have girls, I have a nurse in my team who's had to give away her nursing because she's almost 30 and she's probably only got a couple more years and she's actually just played her best football this year. So she's like, "Right, if I'm gonna give this a crack, I need to try and just be a footballer." Yeah, exactly. So you've got girls who are giving up incomes, taking that pay cut to be able to perform as well as they can. So it's a bit of both. - Yeah, give a partner. - I do, yeah. - Yeah. And so with that same balancing, playing and finances and stuff, another major consideration for women in sport is starting a family. - Yeah, yeah. - And the men can't do that. It's on the women. So is that like a consideration? And how does that conversation go in between the four walls of a football club? - Yeah, well, it's funny. I actually don't know if the club can ask you, are you planning on having children when you're negotiating a contract? - That's not a big business. - No, I don't think so. So I guess it's not really a conversation in the form of a- - I'm only in between a player. - But you're playing with your friends. - Yeah, it's interesting, right? 'Cause for me, I'm straight. There's a big gay community in women's football. A lot of the girls who have children, their partners have been able to carry the children so they don't have to stop. For me, I'm gonna have to carry the child unless they create something incredible and Jimmy can carry the child. But I'm not sure that would be happening just yet. - I guess the biological clock is ticking for women. - Yeah, definitely. I think it's obviously something you think about. And for me, I was always kind of like, I thought that I would wanna have a kid at 30 and then I'd probably be done. But now that I'm 27 and I go, "Gee, is that means I'd only have three more seasons left?" Like that is not enough seasons. You know, that is ridiculous. I think you think that in your early 20s thinking, "Oh, I've got ages to play." But when you actually get closer, you go, "Oh, I've got way more than three years left to me." Like I still feel so good. I'm only just coming into my peak as a female athlete. So it's something that you kind of have to consider, right? And you go, well, supposedly females are in their peak at 30 years old still. So you go, "Gee, is my gonna have a kid while I'm in my peak and ruin those best athletic years that I have not ruined children, obviously very inviting them "I've ruined my life." - Brides with you on that. - Exactly. But yeah, it's definitely something you have to think about. I don't know the answer of what that'll look like for me. I think it's-- - It's some sure it's happened plenty of times before like managing Daisy. You could just do what she did and just get super lucky, have twins and go out of that and come back. - But then you gotta come back in some sort of form like she did, do I? - Yeah, actually, actually, miss season. - I think she missed one. She definitely had like, almost higher than my-- - She definitely missed one full season. - Yeah. - And then she also missed a season or half a season with an MCL injury as well. - Yeah. - Yeah, so she missed a bit of 40. This part-- - And then you came back and played as one of the best forwards in the game and you won a flag. - It's not bad. - Yeah, but it is. It's something that you have to think about and as you get older and closer to it, you go, "Geez, that's not that far away, "but what am I prioritising, I guess?" And I guess for me, I'm like football. Like this is a very small, short part of my life of me. - Yeah, it's a tiny part of my life. - It's a tiny part of my life. Like I've-- - You can hold on to that. - You want to enjoy it, yeah, exactly. - I'm not joking. You are like his daughter. You have the same opinion as I say every year. - Is that all the time? - This is one. - You're in the Daniel homework. This is one eighth of your total career. - Oh, no. - On one of four boys and the youngest, like they were holding out for a girl, be top. - Yeah. - So I think he's like, "What have been different?" - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. - We are very sister. - Yeah. - I told them. - I know. - Now, we're gonna do quick hands. - I want to do a few more. - Well, you mentioned right before, I was asking what are you doing in the off season. You said you're going surfing and you're going surfing to some incredible locations. Tell us about that. - Yeah, so I'll go home for Chrissy in New Year's back to Perth. And then third of Jan, myself and Jimmy, off to Sri Lanka, south of Sri Lanka, and just surf along the coast. - So supposed to be magnificent. - Yeah, meant to be like Bali 20 years ago. Just a bit more quiet and a little bit more untouched. So we'll go there, surf, never been to Sri Lanka. So it'll be good. And then we go to the Yala National Park for a safari for a couple days, up to Ella in the mountains there. And then flight of Bali, the rents of paid for the villa and said, just pay for your way there. So no worries. That is a great question. That's as far as I've looked into it. We've paid for the flight to Bali and I haven't looked into anything else, but we're just basically gonna be surfing the whole time, which we're using. - Bring in villa in Chengu. The owners of Balon Heads Brewing. - Yep. - Which is a sponsor at Shoe. - We'll get to that soon. - Yes. - We can put you onto a great villa. - Okay. - They have a beautiful-- - They're in Chengu. - They're in Chengu, which is right in the middle of the new sort of trendy park. - Yeah, okay. Is that one mark howard that could be? - Well, how he's involved with Bali is very good. - I was gonna start with Bali and Ed's, and I know he's part of his. - So Jimmy is a bit of a surfer. Is he a-- - Yeah, he-- - What does he do of surf? - Yeah, so he's from X-Mouth, so which is very north of WA, like 13 hours north of Perth. - Yeah. - And so he would have like grown up surfing, but then kind of stopped when he moved to Perth for boarding and stuff like that. And then really only took it up again when we started dating a few years ago. So he's now, because he probably knows that he won't see me on weekends unless he took it up, because I'm like, I'm getting out of the building, I'm going down the tour key in English. - I mean, from X-Mouth, Jimmy wouldn't have seen much of the world. (laughing) - Yeah, what is it? 2,000 people. I think his parents still live there. They're-- - Very isolated. - Yeah, very isolated. - Is that the way Jordan is on the mines? - No, no, no. - No, no, no. - It's almost a Darwin. - Yeah, I've got a brother, in and out of Perth on a gold mine, which is in the Pilbara. - Yeah, right. - Yeah, right. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's a beautiful part. - Road trips up and down there. - Yeah, did Gibriver Road, when I was 12/13, first year of high school, which was incredible. Like the gorgeous-- - How questroes on Gibriver Road? - Yeah, or Carageney, or the National Park, just one of the coolest. And it's like a 12 or 13 year old, you think that amount of time in the car, you'd be like, this is, you know, not for me. But the gorgeous that you're walking to, you do like a two hour hike and you get to this water hole. And there's fresh water crocodiles and you swim in in there with them. And it's just-- - It's horrible. - No, it was an awesome trip. It was so cool, two weeks on the road. And yeah, no, it was very cool. - You were cans, and far away. - These are quick questions. - Right. - You know, you can tend to, you know-- - Keep it short. - No, no, you can go, you can say whatever you want. These are just some stupid questions. Now, favorite thing to do on a weekend, other than 40, surf. - Yucoffee order, what does it look like? - I'm a large almond cap. - Best footballer ever in your opinion, my other female. - Oh, oh, bank cousins. - Yeah, he was great. - He was my favorite playground. - Oh, wow. - Just being a young WA kid, he was honestly God. - He made the most of training and becoming good. He just got as good as he could get. - Yeah, he just, yeah. - You were just, and I was a freo supporter. So like, I loved Pav. Like Pav was just like my idol. But I remember just growing up and cousins dominated. Yeah, so-- - Best person to work with is there someone behind the scenes or in front of a camera? Is there a football club? - Oh, there's a football club. - Is there someone you really enjoy working with? - There's lots, but-- - There is lots. There's a behind the camera, Tony Escott. He, yeah, camera man for 40 years with Fox. Everyone knows him if you go around just everyone knows Tony. He's the rarest student. Escott, yeah, yeah. The rarest unit you've ever met, isn't he? - Yeah. - So good advice, yeah. - Is he a good advisor for the worst advice of all time? But he makes it that two years of internship with Fox Sports was the funnest and the most resilience I've ever had to learn because he boarded line bullied me every day. He seriously is just the funniest and the best bloke. And he's one of the best. - A very good cameraman. - Very good cameraman. He's probably, well, 35 years older than me, but has become one of my dearest friends, right? - You're resilient. That's a very, very good, very good cameraman. - A favorite holiday destination? - Esperance. - Be your all wine girl. - Red wine. - A word or two on each of the following. Darcy Moore. Incredible leader Brianna Davie best friend and the Dean Rabar who is the head of communications at Columbia? Yes Driving force driving forces good at a job greater job favorite childhood memory Oh, I think any time I spent with all of my family in Lancelon growing up A bit like Calbury but yeah, Aaron a half north of Perth between Perth and Geraldton Yeah, one of the best beer gardens right on the water. It's almost metropolitan there now Yeah, it's it's there's a lot more it's a lot shorter to get to so it sees a lot more foot traffic than it used to growing up You're at a Chinese restaurant. What are you ordering honey chicken? Oh? Yeah, good It's a good Early years when I wasn't doing much with my football. I would have eaten a lot more honey chicken than I do now But I tell you what it is it slaps every time Ruby slasher has been our guest if you got the final Yeah, we've got the beer that we mentioned before so yeah, thanks to our mates at by on head's brewing coat Uh, it's all in brine and everyone down there. Yeah, how he has mentioned there are there about a taste of the good time So this next question is dedicated to that. What is your favorite? I know you said you like wine so maybe you can refer to wine But what is your favorite situation to have a beer or a red wine in like it could be your airport beer It could be the beer after a 40 year. It could be you know the beer after after Fox I would say I would say back I'll say in Lancelon So I'm gonna make it specific in the beer garden at Lancelon you're overlooking the water right on the beach Yeah right on the beach The on the grass barefoot back at the pub and sitting there with my family Can't just see the Ruby and just keep them back out our house is about a 500 meter walk from the pub So it gets a little bit a it gets a little bit of air time That's probably the best result that we'll get It says a lot about beer gardens up in that area that you can just go barefoot No, but it is There used to be one I'm from mandra just east of mandra is the place called pinjara halfway to pinjara There's a place called Ravenswood and it's right on the river thing and it's beer garden Laps down onto the river and it was very similar just a waterfront. That's what Melbourne misses That's and that's what I think yeah, we've got shit water and melvin Yeah Terrible and but I think like that is what WA has over Victoria is like the The day drinking setup of going down to a pub and it's near the water and it's good weather and you just sit in there all day Tip it in that It's good to chat to a pisshead I felt like it was a thing. Thanks for it. Appreciate it. No, I appreciate it. Thanks for letting me come in. Beautiful This podcast is brought to you by yellow iron fleet to start up today with the latest project news machine sales and Career opportunities head to their website on yellow iron fleet dot com dot a u or check out yellow iron fleet on Facebook Instagram and LinkedIn yellow iron fleet your mining partner (upbeat music)