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Only when using stone-baked pizza mode, cook time requires preheat and reheat and may vary based on ingredients. ♪ Fantasy, you and the whole 6010. Fantasy Focus. Fantasy, Fantasy Focus. ♪ What's up, friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside Field Jates and Mike Clay. My name is Daniel Dopp. It is Monday, August 17th. And guys, we had some football over the weekend. Our first bit of preseason football. How exciting is that? We're going to talk about that just a little bit. Most importantly, man, do you guys feel how chilly it is in here? Do you guys feel that? Yeah, yeah, I do. Is that a draft? Oh, it's a draft day, baby! Nailed it! Mock Draft Monday already starting right now. We're going to have a big mock draft here for you guys like we always do on Monday. I am picking from the sixth spot. Field is picking from the eighth spot. Mike is picking from the fourth spot as well. So we're going to be doing that throughout the entirety of the show. First and foremost, really quickly, I want to tell you guys about our live show, FantasyFocusLive.com. There are only a few tickets left. Go grab them. It's going to be New York City, August 20th, FantasyFocusLive.com. Go check that out and hang out in our chat with our buddy Eric Moody. Follow him on social media at EricNMoody and just jump in chat. Hang out with all the people. Do a little bit of the socializing. You know what I mean? It's a good time being in there. Send some punishments, ways you determined your draft order, etc., etc. By the way, there was stuff that happened over the weekend. I was just going to say. For football purposes. In preseason games. The good news about doing a mock draft is that you can talk about it before the mock begins or you can talk about it when the notable players get taken off the board. Jeremiah Love now nursing a high ankle sprain. Brees Hall, moments before our show began, walked off the field with trainers at the Jets practice. We'll talk about that once Brees Hall is picked. We are basically flying blind to the Brees Hall situation. We have no information other than reporters seem to believe it's an upper right leg situation. We'll talk about these things as these players come off the board. But we already made three picks. Yeah, we did. I haven't said a word yet. You guys have kind of stolen the thunder here. And I'm sitting here wondering, should I pick or am I waiting? Liz Loza, I want to say this really quickly. Liz Loza going opposite of what the people, I believe the people were 53-47 on Jameer Gibbs over Bajon Robinson. She went with Bajon and then Matt Bowen took Jameer Gibbs and then Jamar Chase. Still waiting to see what happens here at four, Mike. I think that. Can we clarify this? This is happening. Half PPR, right? Half PPR. So it changes things just a little bit. I think if he was fully good to go, I'd still lean Puka Nukua here. But half PPR, I'm going to get a running back. And I'm going to get a running back that even though it's half PPR, you still get a half a point for a catch. So give me Daniel Topps, favorite player. What a reach. Christian McCaffrey in the four spot. Give me that. I don't like it. Have you guys, do you guys agree that the best spot to pick in? I would say on average, most years I want to pick 101, right? It's fun. You get the first pick. You get the best player, ostensibly. It feels like this is one of those years where two is where you want to be. Because they're so close, right? Even the strongest case for Bijan Robinson is just ever so slightly stronger than the strongest case for Jameer Gibbs or vice versa. So just take the other one. Yeah. I think. Go ahead, Mike. I was just going to say, I feel like this year I don't really care. Like, I'm just happy everywhere. You are just emotionless this year. I think if you pick at the beginning of the first round and when you come around round two, at the 2-3 turn, you're going to still get two really good plays. But honestly, at the 1-2 turn, you're going to get really good players. I mean, it's just, there's so much. I feel like a lot of the positions are really top-heavy. It's just really extreme. Receiver, tight end, obviously quarterback's a different animal. Even running back. Running back has some sort, it's kind of leveled off a little bit. That's probably not, but like, especially receiver and tight end, so extreme, top-heavy. Who am I? I'm just going to do a quick impression. Spreadsheet says players, same, do not care who. Go ahead. I know. I know the answer. Who is it? It's got to be Randy Scott. Randy Scott. That's right. Good old Randy Scott. Love Randy on SportsCenter in the morning. Love him. All right. It's not Randy Scott? Okay. I am on the clock. After CMC, Amin Rao St. Brown came off the board, and I got to choose between, do I want Puka here? I mean, he's fallen. I'm at six right now. We have this big question, or do I go with a sure thing that feels like a sure thing in JSN, and that is what I'm going to do. So I'm going to do JSN here. There you go. But this is instructive because the Puka fall has begun. Yep. And this is not, I don't think this is just a half PPR thing. Half PPR takes a touch of Puka's value off, but not dramatic value off. Correct. He is starting to slide a little bit as the specter of Puka Nakua missing at least one game seems to be in play now. Man, it will be helpful. The NFL did over the weekend, by the way. I was just going to say that. On Friday, suspended several players. Yes. There was a handful of guys that have been suspended for a variety of different things. No word yet on Puka Nakua, and we'll see whether we get Puka Nakua news this Friday or later or later. But I'm going to end this. The slide here. I'm taking Puka. John and the Taylor came off the board to Cam Wolfe at seven and then you took. I'm taking Puka at eight. Back to back. Really good value. Yeah. So Puka to me, you know, at some point we hope to get some clarity there and it's possible that the answer is no punishment. Right. And but ultimately, this is a player that even if you got 15 games of Puka Nakua, you'd still feel like he merited top eight overall selection. It does put some pressure on my 13th pick, so I pick eight out of 10 here, but I did take Puka Nakua. So with my eighth overall selection, I got to tell you, it is much easier to do that in a mock draft versus a real draft. Yes, it is. I had one of my first drafts last night and Puka did not really seem to be falling much at all. So perhaps people more optimistic here. Now, this makes for an interesting decision I have coming up. After Puka, we had James Cook, Devon A. Chan and Ashton Gentry all back to back to back a little running back run there. First round is in the books, my friends. I think that's pretty much how every first round is going to look, give or take. Yeah, I agree. But Justin Jefferson maybe could squeak in there. CeeDee Lamb could maybe squeak in there. There's a handful of guys, but it's a fairly chalky first round. Well, no, Justin Jefferson in there, I would say A. Chan round one, he's kind of slipped to round two and 12 teamers. So especially in a half PPR, a hair early there. But yeah, nothing, nothing too wild. I could see a tiny slide. I'm back on the clock here. And keep in mind, I did take Puka Nakua. So I think people always ask, what's your draft strategy? My draft strategy is it depends on how to take you, Daniel. You're welcome. Well, the one thing I am. I'm definitely trying to do this year is remain patient at quarterback. I've just felt like the builds when you're taking a 10th round quarterback are often better than a second or third round Josh Allen or fourth or fifth round Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, et cetera. But everything is about how you've how you've picked up to that point. So having taken Puka Nakua at number eight overall, baked in some risk there. I'm going to take a player that you guys know I'm very optimistic on and also is better in half PPR, which is Derrick Henry. The fact that his moderate at best receiving value is offset because it's only half a point for every catch. I took Derrick Henry. I feel like a safer play to counter the riskier play of Puka Nakua. No, I'm at it. You know, oh, you want to open? He was a little further down the draft room, but he was the highest projected player. So I actually have, you know, Henry in PPR. I have around in the 10 to 12 range and not PPR of him RB five. I mean, it's a big difference for him going from PPR to non PPR. So we're kind of meeting in the middle here. Yeah, he was the best player on the board right there. And I was hoping I would get lucky and he would slip a little bit. So, well, you didn't, Mike, you know why? Because I texted you over the weekend and you didn't respond. Didn't say anything back. Justin Jefferson goes, let's see, fourth pick. So that's 14 overall, excuse me, to Cam Wolfe. And I like all things involving Justin Jefferson this year. Yeah, me too. Field Yates. I already took Jackson Smith and Jigba. The guys I'm looking at, we got Jeremiah Love. I think I'm out right now in that situation. Drake London, Rashi Rice, Trey McBride. Saquon Barkley, Chase Brown. I'm going to go with my gut because I have a ranking system for a reason, my friends. I love one of these running backs. I have a ranking model. Oh, am I? Pretty good. That was pretty good, Mike. That was good. Get summer going with a firework freeze five-hour energy shot. 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Love him in this offense. I think he's going to crush. David Presley takes Chase Brown afterwards. I'm team old running back. Let's go. So here's the, oh, Saquon Barkley? CMC and Barkley. Look, again, half PPR. They're the best players on the board. I want running backs here. So give me those guys. Let me ask you guys a question. Yeah. Because Daniel just said, like, hey, I'm all in on Amari and Hampton. I'm taking him. I'm here. It just kind of creates a unique dynamic for us when we're doing drafts. Because I also, like, what's the perfect world is when you're getting a value on a player that you believe in, right? Correct. So if you're Daniel and you think Amari and Hampton's got a chance to be there at pick number 26, yeah, you love the guy and you're affirming that love by taking him at whatever pick it was overall, but you just took him. Round two, pick five. So 15th overall. Is there a part of you that was like, man, you know what, I'm just going to roll the dice and see if I can get it at 26. I'm guessing he's probably gone. And we have to talk about Jeremiah Love in one second after you're done here, Daniel. I'll tell you why. And it's a little bit different, unfortunately, for me. In these drafts, a lot of the times when we're drafting, we've talked about the players that we like. So I know that by the time it gets to 26, I think if I was not in a draft with a bunch of really smart people that I really liked, and it was just like me and a bunch of friends, I would roll the dice, see if I could get him at 26. But I felt like in this draft, he would come off the floor before. Like, if I wanted him, I had to take him there. All right. Let's take a breath here. Because like. Yep. Four notable picks just took place here. All right. Let's talk about it. Since Mike took Saquon Barkley, I'm just going to run off the board and then we can talk about it. Drake London at pick eight in the second round. A.J. Brown. Then Kenneth Walker rounds out the second round to start the third. Here we go. Malik Neighbors. Now we're talking. Jeremiah Love. Josh Jacobs. And Rashi Rice. Those are four big names that all have some flags around them. So let's start at the top. Yep. Which one do you think is the biggest one? I mean, I would rather talk about Jeremiah Love. The most notable one is Jeremiah Love. We can go in order. We all agree that round three, pick one. And a 10 team league is about fair for Malik Neighbors. Yeah, I think that's fine. Good value. Back up my board. He's going to be ready for week one, most likely, barring a setback. So even if he's a little limited, look, if he's not pretty much ready to go, he's not going to be on the field. So if he's out there, his role, when they're throwing the football, he's going to be on the field. I feel pretty good about it. Agreed. So I say we're all here. Like the analysis is, Roger, that looks good. Yep. Jeremiah Love is where it gets fascinating. And I think Mike is going to have a strong opinion that I think would vary from people that are in the same boat. Jeremiah Love, for those that missed it over the weekend, has been diagnosed with a high ankle sprain, according to Adam Schefter, which is going to keep him out for the rest of this preseason. And it's not a guarantee that he plays week one for the Arizona Cardinals. So Mike, Matt Bowen takes him round three, pick two. That's close to where he is going already. He seems unbothered by it. Mike, I believe you are strongly unbothered by this as well. I wouldn't say I'm unbothered about the injury. I want him to be healthy. I'm worried that he could be inactive week one, and I have him on a lot of teams, so I don't want that to happen, obviously. However, it does not seem like it's going to extend further than zero to one game. So I'm not super worried about it. Also, if you saw him before the injury in that game, I was already worried, like, oh, ADP is going up. Like, he looks awesome. He looks exactly what I was hoping for. I think that if I can get more of a discount on him now in drafts, I'm going to be ecstatic about that because I was already kind of expecting maybe a little bit of a slowdown. Maybe the first few weeks, they work Tyler Algier more into it, and then you're going to see Love be a difference maker, and his role is just going to expand to the point where he's a 20-plus touch guy a week. So that's my expectation. I'm still all in on Jeremiah Love. Obviously, I moved him down slightly in my overall rank. Just a couple spots because he might miss a game. That's a variable here. And we talked about how that tier of running backs is so deep. So at the end of the day, I think where he went here, he goes right ahead of time. Josh Jacobs, you know, you have, what are the running backs you have? Brees Hall, we'll talk about in a second. Javante Williams, Travis Etienne, or Travis Etienne. Darn it. Put a coin in the jar. Dude, you'd be poor. Put it in the jar. Spending all your money. We need like a buzzer or something. Yeah, we do. We'll get one. I can get like a dog shocker. No, I don't want that. Yeah, like a cramp simulator. What is with the punishment suggestions this year? We got to rip our hair off our legs. We're getting shocked. I'm watching a lot of indie wrestling this offseason, and they do some serious stuff. They do some hardcore stuff. Next, someone's going to pitch like that red punching bag thing. It just like punches you in the face. Yes. Man up, Mike, will you? Yeah, it's ridiculous. But anyway, I think where he's going here is still fine. I liked him more than this. Now he's kind of fallen a little bit. Yeah. So I'm okay with this vicinity of the draft. So I wanted to give you guys some data. There's a gentleman named Matt Proventure, who was a longtime New England Patriots team doctor, has multiple Super Bowl wins, is a member of the Patriots staff. So obviously, this guy is a great guy. He has dealt with this as close as you can. He also is a huge fantasy football junkie and has a website, thepredictors.com. They have all sorts of data. Him and his team have compiled decades of data on athletes facing the ailments across the board. Certainly, a high ankle sprain is very run of the mill. And he told me, I asked him, I said, do you have any data on this from last night? And his data shows that the average timeout for a running back with the high ankle sprain is 4.09 weeks. Now, upon return. They saw less than a 1% drop in snaps, less than a 2% drop in rushing yards, and less than 13% drop in rushing touchdowns after the injury. So like mostly the same player upon coming back. The single most important thing is that you don't rush the player back. Right. But the average time missed is 4.09 weeks. So if we go four weeks from right now, and let's call it yesterday because, of course, that was the. The day that Adam Schefter tweeted this. It would get us to September 13th, which is Sunday of week one of the NFL season. So even if Jeremiah Love is out for week one, historical data suggests he probably won't miss much more than that. And he might be available for week one. So I initially was nervous and I was like, how can you draft this guy? I think the way it impacts draft strategy, and we'll see whether Matt Bowen agrees, is. I had a draft last night. I took Jeremiah Love in the back end of the second round. And I made sure that I got Tyler Bowen. Yeah, I moved him up slightly, and I ran an update of my rankings yesterday. I moved Algier up just a little bit in that tier of insurance running backs. Because keep in mind, too, James Conner hasn't been practicing, and we don't even know if he'll be on the 53 at this point. We'll see. Trey Benson, he's been hurt. So it might be Tyler Algier and Bam Knight week one. And that's going to mean Tyler Algier might push for, you know, 16 to 20 carries, plus a couple targets in that game. I'm back on the clock here, my friends. That was a long one, but I just wanted to get that. No, it's all good. No, it's very worth talking about. I have Omari and Hampton. And Jackson Smith and Jigba. For what it's worth, if Malik Neighbors or Rashi Rice, who just went off in the last five picks, fell to me, I would have absolutely taken either one of those wide receivers here in the third. I'd love them as a wide receiver, too, especially for your squad. I don't really want to do the tight end early. Haven't had one come off the board yet. Both Trey McBride and Brock Bowers are there, and I'd like to hold off on Brees Hall a little bit longer. So I'm going to go with my next highest-ranked wide receiver. Unfortunately, he had a teammate that left this preseason week one game in Jordan Tyson. But I love. I love Chris Olave. Going to grab him as my wide receiver, too, here. All right, Ian. Go ahead. I'll say, yeah, the Jordan Tyson injury is a huge bummer. He, of course, was impacted by this hamstring injury or a hamstring injury during the pre-draft process. It's now another hamstring injury. Unclear if it's a recurrence, if it's the other hamstring. But just a huge bummer for a guy who, by all accounts, was lighting up Saints training camp. I was the second person to take a tight end as Cam Wolfe took Trey McBride right ahead of me, taking Brock Bowers. I have that order flipped, but it's like 1.01. I don't waste too much energy arguing with people that have Trey McBride ahead of Brock Bowers. These guys are in a tier unto themselves. I now have Derrick Henry, Puka Nakua, Brock Bowers. Yes, Brock Bowers is probably a little better in PPR standards. I mean, scoring, excuse me, but it's tight ends. Like, the difference between those top two tight ends in pretty much every format, except for formats that give you, like, gigantic bonuses if, like, your first name is Tyler or Cole, I still think the gap between Brock Bowers and Trey McBride is pretty notable over the rest of the field. It's a dynamite start. Yeah. Oh, wow, thank you. It's a good group. Thanks. Yeah, I don't. You guys are supposed to say that team stinks, but. I don't want to say nice things about it. I mean, you'll ruin it. Like, we know that. Yes, there we go. Thank you, Mike. That's right. Give it time, Mike. Give it time. There we go. Josh Jacobs was interesting to me by EK, by the way. Josh Jacobs went 30th overall. We'll see. You know, there's. Adam Schefter mentioned Josh Jacobs when he was talking about these players who might be facing suspension. And Josh Jacobs, I would say this. I'm not trying to sort of rank the severity of incidents off the field. I just feel as though the coverage of Josh Jacobs and what we know about the incident, the allegations, was the highest profile compared to what we saw. We saw the picture from Puka Nakua. None of these guys are excused in any way, shape, or form. It does feel like something has come down the pike here with Josh Jacobs. There's no two ways about that. That puts a big cloud on trying to figure out where the right spot to draft him in fantasy football is, unfortunately. It's really not fun talking about these things. No, it's not. We're not trying to be crass in any way, shape, or form. Not at all. We're trying to hopefully give you some perspective on fantasy football that you understand is not trying to make any sort of light of the situations in the place. By the way, you mentioned this earlier. Friday, there was, I believe, four suspensions announced, with James Pierce being the biggest one of the four. But I was just kind of waiting because they were rolling in from Adam. They just kept going and going and going. I was like, when are the fantasy-relevant ones coming? And they did not come yet. So we're going to keep an eye on it. After Field took Brock Bowers, we had George Pickens, then Nico Collins, Tedaroa McMillan, Brees Hall by Eric Moody there, second pick of the fourth round. And Field, you ended up going with a running back here as well. Yeah, Javante Williams, who I do feel like is a really classic half-PPR, non-PPR player, he's going to impact the passing game as well. But the upside for Javante Williams is the possibility for 12 rushing touchdowns. This offense is going to be awesome. Minimal competition for carries behind him in the backfield are two inexperienced draft picks from last year in Jaden Blue and Phil Moffa. Javante, really solid player last year. I thought the Brees Hall pick was fascinating by Eric Moody. This could be a non-injury, right? We've seen guys leave training camp one day and be back the next day, a few days later. It might be significant. But until we had that information, I thought it was a reasonable roll of the dice there by Eric Moody. I agree with that. All right. You know what? Come on. How about this? This is why you do these things. Uh-oh. Jets running back Brees Hall suffered a strained groin today, according to head coach Aaron Glenn. Quote, I don't think it was a big deal, Glenn Dolder. I guess that guy's never had a strained groin then before, huh? Dang it. I butchered that joke. Oh. How is it not a big deal? Just move on. You're on the clock, man. Sorry. All right. All right. So it sounds like Eric Moody got good value there. Yeah. He got that push alert. That's right. Just before we did it. And he pounced. He bounced. Yeah, that's definitely good value. He certainly could have been on our radar a little bit earlier in this draft. So good value. There are a couple of picks in a row here. Yep. I went with. So after a field took Javante Williams, Kyron Williams. Yeah. Then Kyron Williams came off the board. Excuse me. I took Devonta Smith as my flex. David Presley, our producer, took Cam Scadaboo. Zay Flowers to you, Mike Clay. Yeah, that feels like good value as well. I agree with that. That's the end of a tier. I feel like a wide receiver. Depends how you feel about some of these other guys like a Devonte Adams or Ladd McConkie, who Loza just took. But T. Higgins probably in that conversation. But. It feels like Zay Flowers, who was seventh in fantasy points at receiver last year, and that was with Lamar Jackson, not healthy for a chunk of the season. So I feel pretty good about that. I'm going to miss bad McDonkey for what it's worth. Right. Yes. Well, he's going to be so good. No, no. He's going to be good this year. Field. We are speaking into existence on my team and he has a bad week. It's back. That's OK. All right. One bad week. Up again. Yeah. Back on the clock again. All right. So since you had that pick, you know, Travis A. Chan came off the board of Mecca, Abuka, Ladd McConkie, like you talked about. Liz Loza also took Colston Loveland, Devante Adams and T. Higgins to E.K. Mike, you are back up. I am. Where do you go, Mike? Can I just say a player that I've been very, to quote Mike, very high, very high on that I'm starting to get a little more worried about. Oh, not going to like me to say so. Mecca, Abuka, the injury. So that reason we've gotten to the point. There was a report on Friday from Rick Stroud has been covering the team for a long time. It is an awesome job. Yep. Says the Buccaneers are very optimistic. About a Mecca, Abuka playing in week one. All right. That part of it is good, right? Yeah. I also think training camp is pretty valuable for him. And this is not a situation where like Jeremiah Love is so, so, so talented. And they took him third overall. If Jeremiah Love is healthy, he's going to have a notable role. I'm not saying Mecca, Abuka won't, but this is also a wide receiver room where there's now a three week window for other young players to step in and like earn a bit more trust there. I'm getting a little nervous. And toes, not going to lie. Toe injuries scare me for a wide receiver. It's fair. I had him all over the wide receiver 11. He'll be pushing down a little bit. Okay. Yeah. You were higher than us on Abuka. So interesting. I'm a little lower. I haven't moved him yet. How high are you? Just I'm not, I'm not high at all. I, you know, I'm high on Quinshawn Judkins. Oh, my flex. I'm going running back, running back, running back with three. Well, I shouldn't say that. I didn't go in order, but three of my first five picks. So I'm locking myself into a running back of the flex. And the reason is this. I have two receivers. I didn't love. I feel like the tier upcoming of receivers pretty deep. So I could wait a little bit there. I thought about Tyler Warren. Yeah. Love him. But the tier drop after Judkins is massive. He was the last running back in my tier. It's Bucky Irving next, who has his own share of question marks with what could be a three headed backfield committee. So to get Judkins here again, half PPR. So he gets a boost here. This isn't a guy that's going to catch 50 footballs, right? He might catch 25 or 30, but in half PPR, that doesn't ding him as much. This guy could lead the NFL and carries this year. As long as Cleveland is sort of competitive, he's going to handle a big share of the workload for them. So Judkins is a player. I like one of the youngest running backs in the NFL to get him as my third running back at this point feels like great value. By the way, we are 46 picks in Josh Allen, still on the board, still on the board. You know where that's not going to happen? Well, it wasn't with you. No, no, no. I just mean, oh, it's not going to happen. Yes. When like we're doing drafts like elsewhere, Josh Allen will have assuredly been drafted. And again, sometimes like there. The response to that might be, well, then why should I care about this draft? But you should learn from then you do it. Just wait. Yes. Quarterback. We're doing it for a reason because we know we're going to get great value later. A quarterback. You don't need. Let someone take Josh Allen in the second round. Wolf listening to the podcast just took Josh Allen, obviously. At this point, it's fine. But it's totally good. Allen's go goes around, too. And then Drake May starts going in round three and Jaden Daniels. That's great for you. Lamar Jackson. Right. You're going to get great value later. Get all the talent at the other positions and you're going to be in a good spot. All right. So I'm up now. And a reminder. My pick so far. Derrick Henry, Javante Williams, Pukab Nukua and Brock Bowers. So I have two starting running backs. Still need a wide receiver flex. Not going to take a quarterback here. We've reached these at the highest ranked wide receivers that are next up on the board. Terry McLaurin, Jalen Waddell, Roma Dunzey, Jamison Williams, DJ Moore, Luther Birding, Cardinal Tate. I don't think any of those guys, though, like Terry McLaurin's best season was because he mashed with 14 touchdowns. Jalen Waddell might be a lower volume, but bigger play upside guy. Jamison Williams, we know. Yep. Talked about it. He's going to average, you know, whatever. 19 yards a catch. I like this tier more than you do. No, I'm not saying I don't like it. I'm just saying none of these guys. Well, I'm not as high as you are on these tiers. I'll stop that now. More so just like I don't think any of these guys are strong bets for 95 catches this year, but I'm going to go with the one that I think might be the strongest. DJ Moore. OK. I think who sharpened the opener. I think that is the close. If you were going to say 95 catches, I agree with you. DJ Moore is the one that can make that happen. But DJ Moore and the Bills made their debut at Highmark Stadium, a beautiful new facility that Bills will call home. Their first regular season game will be against Daniel Dobbs, Detroit Lions. That's right. Thursday night football. DJ Moore had three catches for 61 yards. There's going to be a bit of everybody eats up in Buffalo, but DJ Moore had his best seasons of his career playing in that Joe Brady offense. He returns there. I can't believe you didn't say solidified, locked in Amon Ross, St. Brown 2.0. Luther Burden was the best bet to get. 90 catches. Do you have any thoughts on him, Mike? No, I'm not. I can't say anything about him because Bears fans are furious about him. Is it Bears fans? Yeah, I think Bears fans and people that are just convinced that there's no downside to Luther Burden, which is. They like fun, Mike. They want to be the eternal optimist and you're just trying to be a realist in this situation. You're not actually negative. You're just saying like, hey, I'm being more realistic. I have a wide receiver 27, but yeah, I mean, I just haven't anointed the guy yet. Wide receiver 27? Is still really good. The 26 wide receivers that are before him are probably all unbelievable wide receivers. It's the deepest position in the game. It feels like the TLDR of the video that Mike, that Mike was, it was attributed to Mike. Yes. I don't know if you tweeted it yourself. I think. I did not. Use your handle was included. I would, but I just didn't have to. I think sort of the TLDR, the short version of Mike, you can correct me if I'm wrong. It's been like a week, so I kind of forgot what you said. It's basically like, you know, there are people that are currently drafting Luther Burden at what? We believe could be like the absolute apex of his value of his upside. Yeah. And so like, if you have, this is somebody who we project maybe is going to be, you know, you have his wide receiver 27 and people are buying him as wide receiver 14. Of course, you wouldn't agree with that. Yeah. I mean, he's going to the fourth round of 12 team leagues. Like look at consensus league, 12 team leagues, competitive leagues across the industry. Draft Kings best ball, which we try to make quite often for people. He's going in the fourth round. I mean, is that, is that. No, not simple. That's simple. Fourth round for a guy that has four career, 10 point games. And three of them were with Roma dunes, a sideline, a guy who disappeared in the playoffs last year, a guy who's hurt right now. Not going to play in the pre. I mean, it's a little rich for me. That's all I'm saying. The guy's going around him. Like for example, a comparison I made Garrett Wilson, who with really shaky quarterback plays, but a target monster, a terrific player. And now has Gino Smith, who, again, I know it's not a standout quarterback in their prime, but a guy that has supported a lot of fans. And I see success from his past catchers over during his time in Seattle. It feels like a better situation for him. more solidified star player in the nfl i'm sorry like i i've got pushback on saying that car that gary wilson is a star that guy is outstanding yeah he's one of the best talents at wide receiver in the nfl maybe we'll finally see his ceiling this season so uh i for me it's just i think we're often guilty of looking at a player's ceiling and not their floor or not the wrist that is involved with the player and luther burden is not a sure thing good for you you know that's not a sure thing with your chest baby girl do you guys know that that that photo that meme that often goes around it's um a carport that has like a oh yeah a rundown house with like a ferrari yeah i think people feel as though like garrett wilson is the ferrari metaphorically and the car and the house is the jets quarterback situation i actually i feel if gino smith moody is taking his time is your starting quarterback yeah he's milking milking the clock he's probably chatting it up right now that's why hey you oh wow okay i'm glad so we'll pause for a second i'm actually on the clock so i'll filibuster go ahead he just took he just took deandre swift who did at the end of friday shows like when he comes off the board on monday talk about yes courtney cronin was doing a radio interview she covers the bears for us here at espn amongst many other things great job and she said she was talking about how he has been the most consistent player in bears training camp i took it upon myself to reach out to some folks within the bears to see their assessment okay a lot of agreement really yeah people a lot of impressive reviews from deandre swift i mean that's good to hear but at the same time i'm like not surprising okay well he's like i feel like he's trying to give eric gosh like what did you expect here like no he's like it's like he stinks now like what okay or he's like an elite player now like i know like you don't think that out of a 90 player roster a veteran running back better like do you think he's gonna be better than you think he's gonna be better than you think he's gonna be better than a football this year like i mean that made me feel better about him did maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm crazy i mean it's better i guess it's better than hearing like he lost a step or something i guess i guess no doubt i don't know but that's not new i don't know who would you have if i had pitched that again that quote i heard that quote from court and i heard the back end of it he's been the most consistent player in training camp so far this season sounds like him i would have been like i don't know like that's like it's one of those quotes that it's sort of like a player on the rise that's how i interpret it and it's like oh you know like colston loveland or like joe tooney their guard that would be the one the most consistent guy be like a seasoned veteran like that would make more sense to me i would say i'm interpreting i wouldn't i wouldn't take deandre swift and i know daniel can sympathize with this you're an eagles fan you can sympathize with it with it as well wouldn't say deandre's career has always been defined by consistency agreed it has in fantasy output he had like almost the exact same numbers like three years in a row like he he absolutely was one of those guys why'd you be in your cheerios this morning i was gonna say you know i woke up and chose violence it as a compliment to him like i feel like he's been more a more of a floor player than maybe he gets credit for i thought it was notable i thought it was he was what rb 15 last year like that's we have him lower than that actually by a little bit i'm gonna draft to america who's out there listen all right mister i love kyle menungai like what all right so he's too early you're right by the way it's the sixth round mike it's too early my point being if you like menungai well then i guess you don't like swift menungai banged up over the weekend adam chefs are tweeting that it sounds like he's going to be fine yep daniel and i'm more impressed with the andre swift nugget from courtney than money how high did you move him in your rankings um really high rb2 yeah good i'm just i mean money where your mouth is man i didn't draft him i'm just saying i didn't have the chance to i just man i don't know there are certain things that make me feel better about drafting a player and that would be one of them and so i'll i'll leave it at that after deandre swift field took roma dunzey then jaylen waddle and i took david montgomery part of the reason why i decided to go with david montgomery is because i did the thing that i talked about on the show the other day i waited and i took jadarian price as my rb2 you got all you got a pair of very half ppr running backs i sure do and then david montgomery i just wanted to take another safety running back because i waited so long at the position again my wide receiver should be set with devonta smith bristol lave and jackson smith and jacob what's wrong mike what's what's wrong look at the i'm on the clock luther burden is clearly clearly the highest player this is one of those situations where sometimes come on mike makes a guy just make some good content there is a content make some good content make some good content make some good content of the player pool i mean carnell tate's right there i actually moved carnell tate down a little bit because that often shaky not look very good yeah yeah i just a little bit you know here we're moving guys around tears what else you got on your squad i don't see three running backs two receivers i do need a quarterback and tight end but the tight quarterback tight end right now i mean these are my rankings yeah they are they are sort of look at these receivers trash i have corlin sutton projected just a hair above me and i'm not going to be able to do that i'm not going to be able to do that but you guys know that like if i'm a fan of a breakout this year it's luther burden and you know yes i can't believe you i've always been i've always been a loser believe you i've always been a luther bird just hey i wrote an article like who's going to score more touchdowns you did luther burden yes second on that list i mean you know guys that i'm he had two touchdowns last year we're up on six touchdowns as the projection this year mike all right real talk here though this would not happen in an industry draft for sure like he wouldn't last this long i think everyone maybe is listening to me or maybe it's the injury or whatever and i did say this last week if he starts to fall in drafts i'll be more interested in luther burden he has fallen uh he never makes it this far we are in a 10 team draft he just went in the sixth round in 12 teamers he's been going in the fourth round this was a drop for luther burden so after luther burden buster only here for lakinta by windham cooler weather changing leaves and scenic road when your best friend 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the beginning you're stockpiling good players yep right at some point you go you graduate from stockpiling good players to as best you can still collecting good players but also knowing what you need if you drafted two high variance running backs at the very top of the board you're rolling the dice maybe you're not sold on jeremiah love or you're not sold on saquon barkley bouncing back this year whoever you describe as two high variance running backs maybe you want to take a remandre stevenson where you're like i just need a guy that can plug some gaps if you took a derrick henry and a james cook at the top of the draft and you're like these two guys are going to be rock solid this year i'm okay with rolling the dice on the high upside player then it's travion henderson right i have i have you have to rank one of them higher than the other i have i have ranked remandre stevenson ahead of travion henderson because i am afraid that they're going to be more than a handful of weeks where henderson role is completely to be determined and he ends up with 6.2 fantasy points even if his efficiency is okay yeah it's just here's the thing stevenson bothers me because he wasn't really startable last year and i don't know if that's going to i don't think at age 28 his role is going to expand and last year when they were healthy throughout the regular season henderson out carried him last year so i know it changed into playoffs i hear what you're saying i just don't uh i just don't i'm not interested in stevenson i have a hard time with the guy averaged nine carries and two targets a game listen we we have said this many times and we said this last week when we're talking about these players we're not describing them as targets we're just saying when you're making the decision between these two players on the board here is how i am breaking that tie all right i'm taking my telling you you're well i mean while you look through this really quickly field i'm going to catch people up seventh round had a little bit of a quarterback run live loads that took jayden daniels in the first pick then cortland sutton mike evans mike you took lamar jackson with the fourth pick of the seventh round david presley took parker washington i took then drake may so three quarterbacks within the first six picks there this wouldn't happen in most drafts but this is where we're at with I believe it's Drake, Drake, May, May. Drake, Drake, May, May. You're right. And then DK Metcalf comes off the board. And Field, doth mine eyes deceive me? I think that's French for, did you just say Christian Watson? That is exactly what I said. That checks out. He's a Watson guy. I'm a Watson guy, yes. I don't know. I mean, like, if you look at the other receivers that are available at this point, Michael Pittman Jr., Alec Pierce, Marvin Harrison Jr. I'm buying him, man. I am buying Christian Watson this year. I thought he was awesome down the stretch. I understand what the mitigating factors are. I wasn't ready to take a quarterback here, even with Jalen Hurts still on the board. I just, I'm punting on quarterback until later. I've already got my tight end. I feel good about this one. I'm fascinated to see if Matt LaFleur just narrows the target tree this year. Because if he does, it's going to be a big deal for all three receivers. Everyone. Jaden Reed, of course, more of a PPR guy. He's dinged a little bit in this value. But Christian Watson boosted in this format. Because he's going to be a lower catch, more of a big play touchdown sort of guy. So that helps him. And, of course, Matthew Golden as well. I saw a good tweet over the weekend. You guys will probably appreciate this, which was from, let me get the name, because it was funny. Jonathan Brooks. Gosh, sometimes, why are we? Why do we do this? I would like to say this really quickly while Fields is looking for it. There it is, all. Oh, dang it. Now, when you go to your timeline, it doesn't just show, it shows only your tweets, not retweets as well. Twilly Allen, who says, We need to start using the first initials of their names. To differentiate. Yes. Which was quoting a tweet from Peyton Hallis that said, LaFleur says love will miss a week with a sore ankle. This is going to be a long and confusing season. Of course, Matt LaFleur coaches Jordan Love. Jordan Love. Mike LaFleur coaches Jeremiah Love. It's a problem. The first initial doesn't help either. J Love doesn't. That was the joke. M LaFleur says J Love. Is that not going to be great? By the way, we talked about Eric Moody going with a high floor, consistent DeAndre Swift last round. This round, he goes with one of the. Biggest variables at running back right now. Generally at this point in the draft in Jonathan Brooks, who now Chuba Hubbard dealing with a hamstring. So we might go into week one with Brooks is the clear lead back in Carolina with Trevor H. And as his backup, of course, the brother of Travis H. Yes. Got it. Yes. Cousin of Marcus H. Devon. Devon H. And. Re. No. No. We got it. We had Daniel for a second. Dang it. All right. So since we had that, I do want to say you had mentioned when we were talking about Christian Watson, you said this is a tear. I think that's a great way to look at this group because most of these Michael Pittman Jr. Not withstanding Alec Pierce, big upside, but some variable question marks for sure. Christian Watson, you had the same thing. Marvin Harrison Jr. Tons of upside, but tons of question marks. Also, Matthew Golden, potential post type sleeper. But some question marks. Michael Wilson. We've seen it. Yeah. These guys all still available. Brian Thomas Jr. Like, is there a chance he could revitalize? There is a bunch of high upside guys here, but I'm not sure you can count on any of them week to week. It's sort of like taking that dart throw here in the middle of the draft to see which one could kind of fit your squad. Along those lines, I went for boring with my ninth round pick. What'd you do with that one? I took my eighth round pick. Tony Pollard. Oh, non PPR. Pollard just continues to look like the clear cut. He's the guy in Tennessee. I have some question marks about the offensive line. But the running back. The running back's available right now. Just just so you have some perspective. Yes. Jalen Warren. Rico Dowdle. Kenny Gainwell, who we like a lot, but he's offset a bit by the fact that it's half PPR versus full PPR. Chuba Hubbard. J.K. Dobbins and Daniel's son, Kyle Moon guy. That's right. Moon. There's been Taiji Spears hype that it might be more of like an equal distribution in that backfield. But my expectation is that even if that's true, it's still Tony Pollard is the lead rusher. Same. More involved in the passing game. So that report doesn't move the needle a lot for me. I think Spears is a good player, but it's going to be a backfield committee there. I will tell you this. This is the only reason why. I mean, it is this good if Taiji Spears plays way better than him, but then it's going to change things. But Robert Sala got chewed up last year by Tony Pollard. I bet you he has a lot of confidence in Tony. Tony, remember when Sala was the 49ers D.C.? Pollard went nuts last year against them. I bet Robert Sala is a soft spot for Tony Pollard. All right. I'm up here and I was debating, like, can I really let Michael Pittman go here? Fortunately, producer Dave Presley drafted him. So that makes it a little easier for me to go with the other option here, which is to to end this tight end tier. Yes, there's a nice tier. And this is everyone else went. But I'm going to take the healthy guy of the group. There's a few good options here. Harold Fannin. And then the next year down because of injuries only Tucker Craft, who said during the weekend he might be limited to open the season. It sounds like he'll be pretty involved in the throne. The football. I'm not super concerned. He's been working his way up. My rankings is he's gotten healthier. And of course, George Kittle. I've been drafting a lot recently because he might may or may not play week one, but he'll be back pretty soon. So those guys are on the move a little bit. But at the end of the day, I'll take a healthy Harold fan and this late in the draft. So my starting lineup is my friends complete. Let's see it. What is your starting lineup, Mike? Can we look at it real quick? Well, maybe there it is. Yeah. Quarterback Lamar Jackson, running backs, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley and Quinn Sean Judkins at wide receiver Rishi Rice, a flowers. Harold. Fan at a tight end. And we have a second flex there. Luther Burden, the third. My guy. Hashtag my guy. Did you try to. Where's your kicker? The starting line. Did you try and do a stack or did it just work out that way? Was a flower? Do you ever think? Definitely did that. Well, I don't. I'm not sure if you ever. Some people like doing strategies, not in a not a normal like head to head 10, 12 team league. Generally not. I'm just taking the best guy on the board. But I'll be happy to watch the little extra Baltimore this year. Absolutely. That we're not playing. Field will be happy to watch Derek Henry run the ball 35 times a game and not throw the ball as a part of it. Do you have a full starting lineup? I do not. I have no quarterback. No quarterback yet. Wait, we can. I can show you who. Still waiting on yours. Yeah. Why don't we take a quick look at it here? We're getting into the 10th round. Derek Henry, Javante Williams, Puka Nakua, DJ Moore, my two wideouts, Brock Bowers. My starting flex would be Roma Dunzey with Christian Watson and Tony Pollard as options. Some perspective on why I haven't taken a quarterback yet. QBs still on the board. Jackson Dart, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Bo Nix, Brock Purdy, Matthew Stafford, Caleb Williams, Patrick Mahomes. A lot of good ones. Kyler Murray. I mean, those are still a lot of good ones, but I'm just going to sit here and wait now because I'm mad at Eric Carrabelle. Who did Eric Carrabelle do? Took Alec Pierce. Alec Pierce. He has been plummeting in drafts lately because he, of all the, uh, you don't know when he's going to play reports. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. The reports from the team are, they still expect him ready for week one, but even if he doesn't, he's going to play. He doesn't play week one. I still feel like this is good value for a guy that I, we talked about him last week. I expect him to play an expanded role. And the guy was what? Wide receiver 20 something last year and should see more. I mean, they paid him a lot of money, so. They did. I agree on him, this being a good value. I would just say, I know it still feels like football is kind of a long ways away. We're two weeks from Niners Rams being in like, I mean, shoot the Patriots and Seahawks play in like 20, how many dates? I can't do math. God damn it. I can't do math either. A little under a month. Yeah. A month. Like we're. Yeah. Yeah. That came. By the way, I was just up on, obviously I was up because he took out. The post-type sleeper. 23 days. So the Patriots and the Seahawks play. Okay. Pretty close. It is pretty close. And in fact, uh, it is. Uh, so, uh, I, I thought about, uh, Jordan Tyson there and I, you know, we just don't have clarity on the injury situation with him. So I did not go that direction. I thought about it. He could still go on IR. They still expect him to make a big impact this season when he's out there. But the question is, when is it going to be early in the season? Is it going to be midway through the season? We just don't know that yet. Obviously there's some uncertainty with the fact that he's a rookie as well, and now he's going to miss time. So I did go with a different potential breakout wide receiver, a guy that I thought I would not touch at all this year, but he's pretty cheap. So give me some Matthew Golden. I think the reason, by the way, that the other concern for Jordan Tyson that I, people probably have is that even if he does come back early, this is going to be a good time. This is a hamstring problem that's persisted for a long time now, right? And it's, Hey, you get him back and he has a great week. You're probably concerned. Could this happen once again? Right. And then especially when it follows him from college, it's like, it's, that's why people are nervous. That's for man alive. Is he talented? Oh my gosh. Unbelievably. All right. I took a Brian Thomas jr. With my last pick. I got a full starting lineup here. My friends, Drake may as my quarterback, Omarian Hampton, Jadarian price at Montgomery. That's right. Those are all my, my two running backs, my starters. So I got three nights running back. I think Jackson Smith and Jigba, Chris Olave, Devonta Smith as my flex with Brian Thomas jr. I grabbed as my first bench wide receiver, some upside. I got Sam Laporta as a starting tight end as well. Full starting lineup. I really liked this squad. I liked the way that it came out. Could have waited even longer. I don't think like I won't be able to do this because I got Drake may so late. Drake, Drake may, may will not last this long in normal drafts, but I love the way that this has played out for me so far, especially being able to get grab David Montgomery after I drafted Jadarian. Price. I still stand by. If you're going to grab him as an RB two, there's enough question mark there. Maybe make sure you just have depth at that position. I'm worried about your running backs, but it could work out great. I mean, they're very, uh, I mean, Hampton's probably a little safer. I did move him down. We talked about that tier, right? That deep tier of running backs. I moved him toward the bottom of that just because it's so close and there's so much from, from the chargers, so much Keaton Mitchell hype. And I don't think it's going to like crush O'Marion Hampton, but it's enough to kind of break some ties in that range. So if we say he's like a-- good rb2 and then you have jerry and price who that's a big question mark right now i i was literally looking last night just trying to figure out something on zach charbonnet like when is he coming back and sometimes you get nothing and then he's back like for example a guy who i really moved down as like not no longer a late round flyer was chris bell the rookie third round pick for the dolphins who's their most talented receiver but he was recovering for a torn acl and there was kind of nothing there was like guy might not play this season and then he's activated out of nowhere so uh that doesn't mean he's gonna be ready week one but he's he's back that's a good sign because they want to get him on the field and ready to go as soon as possible so it could kind of come out of nowhere with charbonnet as well and i'm monitoring that to the extent that people care about offensive line play how about bears left tackle ozzy trapillo who they thought might miss shocker the entire season yeah and he got activated yesterday he's got a long ways to go in his recovery still but i mean that's pretty impressive right there i just drafted my quarterback my final my starting lineup is now complete oh let's see this is a classic have your cake and eat it too moment for me with the qb because i took justin herbert in the 11th round yeah and i have him as my quarterback six my roster is as follows justin herbert derrick henry giovante williams puka nakua dj moore brock bowers roma dunze with options like christian watson tony pollard and chuba hubbard on the bench i like that field yeah herbert over jackson dart it's funny i have a pretty big gap in my rankings between those two but the projections aren't like massively different but i think it's a pretty big gap off that's that tier where it's just there's just so many uh quality options so you're saying tiers matter huh here's always matter have i said otherwise was there a point where i was just trying to get that to be reinforced to people yeah of course i understand why people want you know you know dk metcalf versus terry mclaurin give me a very strong definitive case yeah look if i don't take one of the top few quarterbacks like i feel like lamar jackson could i mean he could outscore every other quarterback by 80 points like we've seen that before if he's on his game he could do that that's why i went a little earlier on quarterback but if i miss on those top guys like alan and lamar jackson and jayden daniels even drake may i'm happy to wait a long time just like you just did sure jordan tyson finally comes off the board in the 10th cam wolf grabbed him with a fourth pick i think that's what happens at this point if he if he like we're in the 10th round look at some of the names they're going to be taken soon like if they don't work out they don't work out jordan tyson i took george kittle to be honest i i mean honestly with where i was at second tight end why not he may be a top five tight end he might play in in three weeks yep it's crazy so i with the wide receivers that were available i already had a starting tight end but but i got to a point where i'm just looking at these guys and i just think george kittle is the best player available i forget the position yeah like i just thought he was the best player still on the board so even though i already had a tight end totally i thought why not go with it by the way he was still i know he's 33 now and it's coming off a major major injury we can't ignore that but also like he was red hot before he got hurt last year he had four 20 point games in his last i believe six outings last year yep big time for tight end so he was he was crushing it what was it four no no games it was big time big time do it again big time i don't know you just the way you said it it was just like fun you were like and it was big time big time big time mike lee big time uh mike took a player we haven't talked about much let's use this opportunity to do so jacori aka bill krosky merit was your 10th round pick mike what are you making this commander's backfield i make that uh i want krosky merit to uh take on a larger share of the passing game workload and so far the hype in the offseason is that he's he's uh acclimating himself well uh he was a you know a guy who was he was undrafted right was he a seventh rounder seventh round seventh seventh rounder uh obviously those guys usually don't do much as rookies but he did enough that they got rid of brian robinson jr and he had a role last year and by the way he was effective last year i think he averaged about five four point six yards per carry two point two after contact which is terrific and he's got a lot of so uh he can already handle a big workload as a ball carrier we expect that at least at least half the carries but if he can get an uptick not it doesn't have to be a massive target share but an uptick in passing down work he's going to pay this off for sure and can deliver potentially flex value so he's my third bench player i'm happy with that okay there we go uh i don't this is it's a backfield i haven't targeted much i don't not that mike taking him in the 10th round is like an aggressive target territory um but i just have a hard time figuring out whether bill is actually going to take on the game or not i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know some of the duties that would make him fantasy relevant or if we are just headed for uh bills on the field it's early downs and they're probably going to run the football bill is off the field it's a passing situation of rashad probably going to be on the field yeah yep i'm sure he'll have a role as well but i think that would be great for them if jcm kind of breaks out this season are we getting about we got 10 or so minutes left here and i'm just going to take a guy i love and this is too cheap for him and honestly i'd feel good about him as my starter had i not taken lamar jackson but uh jackson like you yeah and like george kittle as like an upside player uh maybe trade bait down the road i'm gonna take jackson dart here i really think he has elite upside happy to take him can we just talk about this i feel like you get to a point emotionally sometimes in drafts where you're like dang it i've already drafted that position but everyone else now i'm later on in the draft everyone else that i'm looking at there's a guy that i just like more than everyone else but it's a position that i have already drafted how do you like do that emotional hedge to say you know what this is smart i can do this let's just talk about it i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't talk about how you guys break down that decision can i give you an example quick of how this worked out for me exceptionally well last year and it doesn't always and sometimes when you take guys late you could just cut them loose and it doesn't hurt you but the upside is this last year i would take my qb1 and then one of my favorite targets in every draft as my qb2 was drake may and that was he was my starter all year my number one quarterback i could trade for a piece at another place if like someone had lamar jackson they needed a quarterback i could either trade may or my starting quarterback and that paid off in a big way no doubt about it when you get to this point in the draft you should be looking for those breakout players because that's who's going to win you the league so you want to be as a word of advice to you when you're addressing your quarterback room like during meetings over the next couple weeks you got to go by uh first or last name you can't just say jackson because you have lamar jackson that's true dart yes confusing that's true thank you for telling me that that's that'd be a good team name lamar jackson dart yeah i like that that's that is my team name now because i got both guys right as field just pointed out how good is that i ended up going with rashad white the uh commander's running back i like rashad white a little bit more than i like jcm we'll see what that backfield though breaks out as we're in the 11th round here that yeah but i got a guy yes he did not go that i am about to take right here that i've been hoping would slide to me that was very busy during this team's preseason game oh jean's tripling yeah he was him way up wide receiver san francisco 49ers who again everybody else on the team is either old or hurt yes uh and he had seven catches in the preseason yes both in some a lot of them are again this is upside city there's plenty of examples of guys flashing in the preseason and us overdoing it 11th round is not overdoing it in my opinion but he's a 33rd pick in the draft it was a much discussed 33rd pick he was i know that uh there are those that don't believe players rise or fall during the draft process it's just the media catching up with the league i feel pretty darn confident that sean tripling was a late riser in the pre-draft process he was awesome for kind of helped boost his candidacy had a really good pre-draft process ran four three six like 206 pounds he's huge mac jones calls him the flying hawaiian he's from hawaii um and uh brock purdy's been very complimentary of him and he was very busy now you could make the case if he's so good why was he playing with backups in that first preseason game i do think some of these guys even if they project to have a decent role like need to get some exposure right right like he's never played an nfl game preseason or otherwise it's probably a good thing to have a decent role useful to have him on the field for some of this action i know you've had football reps but there's just a difference between like hey even if it's preseason get out there and experience the game a little bit that's common for rookies yeah a little time here left so we're going to keep all right let's recap really quickly the 11th round liz lowe that took trevor lawrence jayden reed then travis kelsey came off the board mike you took jackson dart like we talked about dak prescott came off the board after that i took rashad white travis hunter we haven't talked durgeon stribling field you took him then dallas godere brock purdy and beau nick so this is where we're getting that late quarterback run everyone that was waiting at the spot i love that after taking a second quarterback to kind of start sometimes and i'm not saying that's the case you were ahead of the professionals but sometimes like you could take a second quarterback like an upside play and it kind of puts some people that don't have one in panic mode yep like oh no we i it's it's drying up it's getting here i gotta start clicking and then everyone starts taking quarterbacks and that's great news because then that's freeze up skilled players for you i took a legitimately high upside player in the 12th round here that i think is really interesting i drafted him in a slow draft last night rashid i like it um he's just you know it probably sadly it probably would take an injury for him to become a weekly fantasy asset but if something happens to jsn or cooper cup i got 17 million dollars a year this offseason yeah i expect him to be ahead of cup in the priority order for that offense when they're calling plays like and remember this is a guy that had a what a 20 target share at times with the saints so they can feature him if they want to and again they paid him like they're going to feature if they don't now what are you doing i mean for a team that was that tight the seahawks began the offseason with a ton of salary cap space the seahawks also had a ton of players that needed to either be re-signed or they need to reinvest in devin witherspoon leonard williams abe lucas like they've got a charles cross they got all these young players that are about to get paid so that cap space number seemed larger than Because the reason I bring that up is them reinvesting Rashid Shaheed is They have a finite number of resources, and they use a legitimate amount on Shahid. I like Rashid Shahid. I'm with you on that. Cam Wolf took Alvin Kamara after that. I went with Quinton Johnston, then Caleb Williams. Jordan Mason, Matthew Stafford, Jake Ferguson. Liz Loza grabbed her guy, Jaden Higgins. She has been hyping him up as well. Yep, like him a lot. We are now— Yeah, man, and Liz just took Tyler Algier. That was very smart of her. That was really smart. Way later than he's probably going to go. Yeah. I took him in round 10 last night. Really? Round 10? Yeah. We'll see. I just—I had Jeremiah Love. Yeah. I felt like I had to do it. I had to pay the premium to get Tyler Algier. Yeah. You know? Totally fair, and it depends on roster construction. Like, in this case, if I had taken Love, and I also have—you know, I have three starting running backs, so I don't necessarily have to force it because if Love were to miss time, I would have—like, let's say I took Love over Barkley, right? I would still have McCaffrey and Judkins in there, and I could put a receiver like Burden or Golden or someone like that in my flex spot. Yeah. I actually took Jordan Mason, who sometimes, like, you're just monitoring. training camp and it's like it's becoming very clear from people that are watching the Vikings that like there's a little bit of a change here Jordan Mason actually is going to be their clear lead runner this year and I know Aaron Jones will have a role in passing situations but uh there's just enough there that in half PPR or non-PPR that was enough for me to to take a shot here on Mason in uh in the 12th round when do you think it's enough for you to just make the pick since you've been I'm not doing it for so long and we're all just waiting how about I just take an upside wide receiver in dang it dang it that's what you get that's what you get that's who I wanted wow so you don't get him listen the last two wide receivers I wanted were Quinton Johnston just because we've seen him again late round high upside guy we saw him smash last year if Justin Herbert does really well this year there's a chance he does well yeah and then Casey Concepcion had some fun highlights over the weekend it just he looked very electric out there first round rookie give me that Browns didn't always look electric but there were some fun plays out there for him so I just I wanted him to fall he was going to be an upside guy I took here at the end of the draft okay I dig it uh the Browns took another receiver a few points later and he's still there I mean he looks pretty good so I didn't mean to it's okay no I got nervous I know I almost knocked over the water we look at our uh lineups now or are we gonna wrap this thing at the uh the hour or no I don't I don't know what we're doing that's a great question okay we're gonna finish the draft that we might go just past an hour but we're gonna be real close here rip through them things I'm gonna go uh another high upside guy why not he was a first round draft pick that's gonna be my Kai Lemon okay yeah dealing with some things right now um yeah uh the the Dontavian Wicks hype and Lemon not being fully healthy makes me a little nervous about Lemon sure bam right on cue I just took Dontavian Wicks Michael look at that Lemon Boston and Wicks the guys we've all we're we were all just talking about yep uh but yeah I was already a little nervous about Lemon I've talked about this uh I talked about it last week a little bit how hard it was for AJ Brown was delivering as a wide receiver one Devontae Smith kind of a fringe wide receiver too and then I was a little nervous about him and that's in a that's a very very good player maybe the best number two receiver in the NFL and now you're bringing a rookie into that spot a kind of a slot area Target I don't know if he's going to get the volume to be able to deliver starting caliber numbers and then also you're getting the Dontavian Wicks hype and they're probably going to roll out Hollywood Brown in certain packages as well uh so I'm I'm a little nervous about Lemon but at this point in the draft again it's fine he's starting to fall a little bit so this is where you throw darts at those you know first second round rookies darts have you guys started seeing him come off the board earlier with any of the hype that we've had or has there not been enough time for that hype to develop into I don't believe so what I would say yeah I I hear where Mike's coming from um the part about about Keaton Mitchell that I want to continue to make very clear is it's not so much that Keaton Mitchell is likely to have standalone value it's much more about the idea that if Keaton Mitchell plays a legitimate role it takes a touch of the upside off of Daniel's son oh yes yeah and like I said like I said there's going to be a lot less there he just unless Mike McDaniel turns him into an elite offense and it's you know Hill Waddle Mostert a-chan like every bunch of Johnny Smith like everyone's just crushing it in that offense maybe maybe they get that offense to the next level but uh it seems a little expensive for me he usually is I think it's fine at this point in the draft yeah um but we will see Daniel you're up it's hard for me to get fired up about like really any pick in round 14. well that's the thing we're in round 14. I ended up going with Tyler Schuck here grabbing a second quarterback I thought why not with everyone that was here I love the rest of my lineup why don't we take a quick look at it because all that I have left right now is defenses I make my last skill pick okay sure sure why don't we yeah because I want to I want to ask a question here and it is what if what if Malik Willis is good is decent even what if he's decent this year and you have three quarters number one who's his number one uh no I'm not no I'm not thinking I'm not taking Malik Willis but if he is good probably one or two of his past catchers are going to be good but if he is good probably one or two of his past catchers are going to be good but if he is good probably one or two of his past catchers are going to be good but if he is good probably one or two of his past catchers are pretty good is that Caleb Douglas or is it Chris Bell I'm going Caleb Douglas the guy who's healthy right now right and has earned himself a spot as a starter on the Dolphins depth chart and looked really good in that first preseason game that catch remember much like Bell third round rookie went a lot earlier than we thought he would go in the draft but uh all we care about is what happens when he's on the field and he very well could be the Dolphins number one receiver so again if that offense stinks and he's just getting you know you know two for 24 I just cut him loose at this point but what if Malik Willis is good remember the best quarterback in the NFL sample size aside over the last two years is Malik Willis Jared Goff as I like this game his efficiency but his numbers are ludicrous I'll bring him up at some point but uh he needs the number one receiver and maybe it's Caleb Douglas so give me give me that you have one round what if we stuck a battery up Mike's butt and put him out in the rain during a thunderstorm do you have a do you have a thing that's also not going to come true that you want to say as a what if that's a tough act to follow that's inappropriate and I don't care for it what you just said I don't even have a reaction I'm saying I don't really know how the director you want to know what size battery I do all right let's keep moving then guys keep moving here we've got some defenses and kickers so why don't we use this time while we're doing defenses and kickers to go through our lineups perhaps that maybe that's a good idea maybe that's a great idea um who's up first why don't we start with Michael okay Mike you want to talk to us about your about your squad sure I will let's do it uh my quarterback is one Jackson you've heard of him he's good fantastic Jackson uh Christian McCaffrey Saquon Barkley and quinshawn Judkins so I'm feeling fantastic about the running back position I just feel like like I don't have to stress as much about having a third starting running back you know if you're short there that's a stressor in fantasy because if a guy gets hurt you're just like oh man I'm in trouble because it's such a hard position to replace but when you have three even if something happens to say Barkley I could plug Judkins in there and receivers so deep I'll have other options so I have those three at running back that fills out my Flex of course Richie Rice and Zay Flowers feel like I have two top 15 receivers there Harold Fannin is uh at worst probably a mid-range tight end one so the starting lineup feels pretty good on the bench a lot of upside here a lot of lottery tickets Luther bird in the third Matthew Golden JCM we talked about him crossky Barrett Jackson Dart a breakout at the quarterback position Jordan Mason should be the lead rusher for Minnesota Casey conception and Caleb Douglas so I have two rookie receivers two just on the bench so that's that's where you want to attack some upside high draft capital uh first or second year receivers is where the money is at uh in fantasy right so give me those guys all right here's my team and see if you my starting quarterback is Justin Herbert a player that I'm very optimistic on as you guys know I got him very late Derek Henry Gervonta Williams my two running backs puka and DJ Moore is my starting wide receivers with Brock Bowers is my tight end Tom Madunze other options to fill in there would be Christian Watson maybe Tony Pollard Chuba Hubbard and then a couple of interesting high upside plays three of them to be specific well two of them to be specific to John Sherbling and Rashid Shahid a little bit of a don't roll the dice on Dontavian Wicks Mike mentioned he's been getting some buzz yep and then Mike Washington Jr looked really good for the Raiders in their pre-season game with that 50 plus yard run my uh my defense is the Packers to the extent you care and dicker the kicker is my kicker yeah by the way three picks in he said the field would ruin it and he came through he ruined it he did it's true that was really good that's good respect I say other than good job by you my squad when I look at it I'm I really like my team when I start at the top with Drake May my two running backs were Omarian Hampton and jadarian Price my wide receivers are Jackson Smith and jigba Chris Olave my Flex is Devonta Smith so I have three wide receiver ones on my squad yeah Sam Laporta my tight end my bench looks like David Montgomery the upside of Brian Thomas Jr at wide receiver George Kittle who I can start on the IR and hopefully he develops into a top five guy again Rashad White as the number two in that Washington offense Quinton Johnston who we saw have some run last year with Justin Herbert Mckay Lemon as a dart throw and Tyler shuck just as a backup quarterback in case anything happens to Drake May knowing that I mean I like where I was at normally I don't draft two quarterbacks and two tight ends but because I was able to wait long enough I didn't feel like I really stretched myself myself super thin so I like this squad and then Lions as my defense and my kicker is Brandon Aubrey uh draft grades are in I don't know who does these or how they calculate them but uh isn't a good I don't know like I'm number one Michael power rank stop it is that good I think our mics are not working I can't hear you anymore that's gonna do it for today that's it you're just mad you got an F do better I'm gonna put two batteries up there listen we love you guys thank you for hanging out with us today we're going to be back tomorrow I don't know what the show is we're going to have with it though. 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