10/8/26: Trump Plans Imminent Iran Attack, US Presses Russia On Lab Leak, Levin Stepson Rigs Israel Intel

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I missed all the fish shenanigans, but we have updates for you guys about the subscription, subscription drive, and whether or not Ryan made it to the show last night. So stay tuned for that, but we have lots of actual news in the show as well. Including, it looks like Trump is asking for plans to strike Iran potentially before the midterm elections. This comes as Saudi Arabia has now been hit by the Houthis. They're airports in particular in a significant mass casualty event there. So we'll break all of those details down. We've got new details about that potential plague death in Russia this morning. So we'll update you on that. A top aid to Mike Huckabee has now been caught lying about Israeli war crimes to the president and trying to cover up some of the abuses that he thinks may go too far even for this administration. There's a bunch of new focus groups of voters coming out of Michigan, including one of Trump voters that say they are actually going to back Abdul Al-Sahid. 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Trump is now considering a plan to strike Iran before the midterms Pentagon planners are weighing options though no final decision has yet been made after months of on again off again fighting the United States is not not struck Iran. In several weeks that is a stretch of relative tranquility but that may not be exactly what happens the White House has now asked the Pentagon to develop strike options against serenian targets which would be exercised ahead of the midterms according to two administration officials. The planning underscores just how much the president wants to reduce gas prices and demonstrate progress in the conflict before the vote this also fits with another leak that came out late last night. Let's put a 10 up here on the screen the United States military has now been ordered to be ready for possible Iran strikes as Trump weighs timing I can say that I personally confirmed some of this news as well. Many of the targets as I understand it would focus on energy sites nuclear sites and kind of be a shock and hostile attack similar to the ones that were launched in the very early days of the war. Crystal the electoral significance of this is actually very interesting because as you and I both know there is no world we're striking Iran is going to increase or decrease oil prices but Trump seems to still believe in this fantasy in fact as I understand it and the Atlantic also eludes to this a lot of this is being pushed by the Israeli government because prime minister Netanyahu is also in an election. And so he is selling Trump behind the scenes saying hey what we'll do is we'll go and we'll have another shock and awe victory like we did the very first time so baby Netanyahu very similar to the February 28th attacks has his own political motives because it's actually not a surprise that them being at war ahead of the Israeli elections would be helpful to him and is trying to dilute Trump into this new plan of bringing the United States back fully into the war reigniting the campaign. And the funniest part about all this is just the signal alone that Trump may be considering more strikes on Iran has sent Brent crude which yesterday drop below $100 per barrel at nearly $105 a barrel as of this morning showing that even the signal of wanting to bomb alone is enough to increase overall gas prices there is not a single scrap of evidence the United States can militarily lower gas prices with more bombs on Iranian energy infrastructure. The likely outcome would be retaliatory strikes on energy infrastructure in the rest of the Gulf ballistic missile attacks etc like we're seeing right now scanning gas prices even more sky high and the October surprise would be one of Trump's own making and yet that is the idiocy which is currently occupying the decision making in the White House. Yeah, I mean the entire election surprise has been Trump's repeated self-immolation so I guess why would we expect anything different heading here down the stretch and it's worth noting we literally warned about this last week because while for Trump it is insane to think that additional strikes on Iran is going to improve his midterm prospects whatsoever for Netanyahu the calculus is quite different. The way he is held on to power for these many years is to format some sort of crisis that he can paint himself as the savior of the Israeli people and you know go to to war commit war crimes or you know and this has also been the way that he has delayed any sort of reckoning over his further allegations of corruption against him that he's also facing within the country and we know that Netanyahu while he is evil he is not stupid Trump is both evil and stupid so he is easily manipulated by Netanyahu at least that's the way it has appeared throughout this entire term. So on the other hand too you know this is classic escalation trap it's also classic sort of degenerate gambler behavior where he's looking at the polls he's having to fly to places like Texas and worry about Iowa and Kansas he knows this thing could be a complete and total disaster so that's the trend that he's on right now that's the trajectory that he is on right now so what do you do when you're already deep in the hole and you are a you know. A gambler who has to be able to pay your mortgage and the house is on the line you double down and so he's open to being convinced of this idea that if we just do one more wave of aggressive attacks then Iran is not going to be able to hold the straight anymore it'll be completely open the gas prices from the market will plummet and you'll get this tremendous bump going into the midterms and we can sell it as some sort of mission accomplished moment before voters on mass head to the polls so again I think this is completely foolish it's not going to work it's only going to make the situation worse for him but it doesn't surprise me that he would be susceptible to this type of quote unquote ration out. Exactly and in fact one of the things that we see inside of it is he's still desperate to declare victory and so the thinking is that they can maybe bomb they can have a temporary rise in gas what will then happen is the Iranians will magically just sign another memory of an of understanding which they had already signed previously I mean this is the sheer foolhardiness of it because the reality on the ground as we continue to cover every single day shows that things are creeping in the opposite direction so yesterday We had the official 15th strike in the straight-off or moose by the Iranians. This is actually a very significant strike because it was apparently a ship at anchor, which had not previously had happened. We've had multiple tankers actually turn around as a result of IRGC warnings, and there is more evidence this morning, including from the energy firm, which is very Trump-friendly by reporting some of the data about the rising levels of oil that was coming out. One of the analysts at that company basically says, "I'm not really sure I can reconcile this increase without a suspicion that many oil companies are just paying 10-20% tolls to the Iranians." So remember, that would be a surreptitious transaction, which is directly in violation of sanctions. Part of the reason Iran wants to stay quiet because they want their money, they're bleeding for it, without being able to export oil, and the ship companies themselves don't want to be sanctioned by the US government. Ryan also showed in our previous show that the US government has previously already sanctioned a crypto exchange, which was trying to facilitate these transactions. So tolling itself is already part of this. This shows some of the success of the Iranian strategy. On the other side of the Middle East, you have what's happening in Saudi Arabia, which is completely imploding. Let's put A2B up here on the screen. Remember, the information environment out of Saudi Arabia is a very sketchy. As of this morning, Saudi Arabia time, there were massive explosions that rocked the capital of Riyadh. No actual information has yet been released, but it comes in the last 48-hour period where what we know is that blasts are currently rattling Riyadh and Saudi Arabia is hit by the deadliest Houthi attacks so far. The Houthis struck two different airports that killed two people, including a worker at one of the airports and two female pilots who were actually working there. Let's put A1 up here on the screen. This is what we had yesterday, an official confirmation of targets, both two international airports in Saudi Arabia from the general authority of civil aviation in the country. You actually see a picture of one of those airports. In fact, this morning, there was reporting out of many of the flights that were trying to land where they were circling and they were not able to do so immediately after the report has happened of those blasts on the capital. So you could see Saudi Arabia is now taking ballistic missile hits directly on its own capital, critical infrastructure. The reason why that airport attack is so significant is previously the Houthis had struck the fuel depots actually in the airport, but this time around shifted to a much more deadly strike on the infrastructure. That's another reason why oil continues to climb. It's humiliating, obviously, for the kingdom, which has spent tens, hundreds of billions of dollars on United States military equipment, patriot missiles. They have the military there. You have 200 US intelligence analysts, which are trying to counter program the Houthi offensive and are giving intelligence and satellite imagery to the Saudi-backed forces in Yemen. So much of it is already falling apart. Let's put A2 on the screen just to show you some of the details, drop site compiled, some of the more recent Houthi advances, not only in striking the airport, but they're also now saying all airlines must stop flying through Saudi airspace, calling it a theater of our operations with the sole exception of Mecca and Medina, the holy sites of Islam. It says attacks are retaliation for 60 Saudi air strikes and a missile on Sanaa and multiple other places over the last 24 hour periods, which it says has killed civilians. It says 15 of 1,576 Saudi strikes have now hit Yemen since that escalation began. So again, the war is expanding. It continues to send oil upwards and already just Trump's suggestion or leaking that they might start bombing Iran again has erased all of the price pressure, which previously had been alleviated by the release of diesel and oil from the strategic petroleum reserves of the G7 countries. So everything is actually pointing in the opposite direction, but the Netanyahu factor is above all of this, where he's in Trump's ear, just telling him, hey, just restart the war because it'll be good for you. When in reality, it's only good for him. He doesn't care about oil, diesel or anybody else. He cares about himself and getting himself reelected. And I wouldn't bet against him considering his track record now so far. You'd be a fool too. You'd be an absolute fool too. It's incredible that he hung on after October 7th, especially given how much we know now about all the repeated warnings that he received and ignored, the repositioning of military assets away from Gaza and all of the rest, including the fact they literally had the October 7th plan in their hands and did absolutely nothing in order to stop it. Lisa, we should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi, we have a new podcast. I'm Lexi Iwaneo, we're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. 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So if you like fun, if you like comedy, and you like learning and protecting yourself from criminals, start listening to Scam Goddess on the IHeart Radio app. You know, the real question now is not if we are going back to more significant strikes against Iran. It's when because it seems very much like these plans have been drawn up. The Iranians definitely expect Trump to go back to bombing them. Their previous suspicion had been after the midterm elections. That would be when he would, you know, open up the full scale war again. Now it appears that he's considering going forward even more quickly. So like I said, it seems like more a question of when rather than if we could put a four up on the screen. And this is some video that was released from the Houthis just showing them, showing them fighting. And, you know, they've had obviously this very successful initiative. And can you imagine you I flew out of Delus Airport to go visit my daughter in Spain. And the thought of your major international airport in your nation's capital, being a target where, you know, civilians and pilots are at risk is, I think for most Americans, completely unimaginable. And yet that's exactly what Saudi Arabia is facing at this point. So they've got that problem. They've also got the problem with Iran, you know, economic issues. They've got longer term brand issues because they very much want Saudi Arabia to be seen as the sort of, you know, safe island apart from any of the turmoil in the rest of the region. And that's the sort of modus upper end of all the Gulf Arab nations. So major major problems for them. Let's go ahead and put a five up on the screen because we have some more details about what's going on with shipping through the straight of hormones. This is from the financial times, there was also some. reporting from Bloomberg about the situation facing the, you know, the ships captains and the crew members. These crew members are really drawn from sort of the global poor. They can make more on these ships than they could at home very at the best of times. It's a very difficult job. You're away from home. You know, the conditions are not great. You're treated very poorly. The pay, you know, by American standards is terrible. But again, more than they would likely be able to make at home. Now ships are having to pay quite a lot more to the captains and to the sailors. Although, you know, our friend Sal put some, put some fine print on this that probably more of what's going on here is they're being coerced. Hey, either you're going to do it or you're going to lose your job. We'll find someone else. But in any case, the transit costs have absolutely skyrocketed for what these ships have to pay in order to transit the street. We could put A7 up on the screen from Sal just to add a little bit of context based on his expertise about what's going on here. So he says that the minimum wage for mariners is currently $690 per month. Tanker masters are making about 12k per month. The $50,000 bonus is to sign up for a 3 to 4 month tour on a tanker that's doing shuttle service between the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. The danger pay is only paid while the ships are making the hormones transit or if the shift comes under attack, it's unlikely the ship owners are actually paying for to six times to sit in the Persian Gulf or Gulf of Oman. Most assuredly when the ship has departed the mercenary term, which is used in one of these articles, is derogatory instead the mariners should be considered veterans for being willing to take these chances with minimum defenses. And you know, I think these are really important to note because of course the ship owners are really trying to absolutely maximize their profit. They know how to nickel and dime these mariners, but the point remains sogar that they are effectively combatants at this point and taking tremendous risk because you've had dozens of these mariners who have been killed over the course of this war. Exactly. And you have ship struck at anchor. You've had people who've been killed. I mean, you've had people who've been wounded. Smoke inhalation. Remember our own United States Marines were on board one of those merchant carriers themselves suffered after direct missile hit on the ship that they were on. You've also had many of them had to abandon ship and honestly some terrifying circumstance if you watch some of the video that's come out of the street of our moves. Let's put AA up on the screen because I want to highlight this around oil is Rory. I will just say ignore the price here because he tweeted it yesterday, but he points out that already the international energy agencies member countries are saying again that they stand ready to release additional oil from strategic reserves if necessary and will prioritize diesel fuel due to a tight supply the head said on Wednesday that had initially sent the Brent crude price under $100 a barrel, but as I said many of the recent developments have already sent Brent crude back above 105 the physical barrel premium and all of that puts it around $130, $140, which is what all of us are paying at the gas station. Right now gas remains around $4.36 a gallon and diesel actually beginning to drop by about a quarter from its all time high to $6.28. I'm not saying it's a, you know, Titanic drop or anything, but that does reflect all of the strategic petroleum reserve diesel specific releases that have now been orchestrated across the G7. I will note that as of this morning it does look like that hurricane is beginning to gain some steam. I think in the Gulf of Mexico heading towards Alabama obviously will keep people updated with respect to how much damage it is able to do because global refinery supply we covered yesterday Venezuela that huge explosion that happened just two days ago. We covered what's happening in Russia, a total diesel export ban out of that country in addition to multiple attacks in the Black Sea on some of their tankers and then our own refineries already running near 100% of their own capacity with diesel where it's at right now. So very difficult situation and even that comes after the president signed some crazy executive order which try, it's something about died diesel. Again, I'm not an expert or any of that. It's all trying to keep the price down already. I believe farmers had had access to that so it's not like it was going to have some immediate impact more towards the trucking industries can continue to send inflation very high. But that's where things stand as of right now. It does look like some resumption of major combat operations as they call it could happen again with Iran and it's almost just certain to end up right back where things started unless Trump does what he's been unwilling to do so far which is do some crazy big strike and just be officially say we're done. The reason I don't buy it is you have the third carrier group which is on its way right now in addition to 10,000 more US troops and that's not something you do whenever you're going to declare victory that's something you do whenever after the midterm elections which is the current plan is you escalate the war even more you might just do it early because BB has asked you to. Yeah and also it's not like he can just declare a mission accomplished and walk away the Iranians get a say in this thing and they're very committed to getting their assets unfrozen and the sanctions lifted and I don't think they have any intent of allowing some sort of free flow of goods through the straight-of-form moves until those demands of bears are met. So we're still in a torturous position where neither side has extracted enough pain from the other to force some sort of a resolution to this wholly unnecessary and completely destructive war so that remains and Trump continues to evaluate a series of potentially catastrophic options. Well big news just saw it actually a big update from flight radar. Riyadh airport is completely closed right now. They haven't in flight taken off in over 90 minutes last takeoff it was yeah over 90 minutes ago so their entire airspace basically shut down even for a one to our period. That's billions of dollars of damage it's humiliating there for the kingdom to be honest at this point like you were saying earlier I cannot even fathom booking a flight out of Riyadh or anywhere in the Gulf. I mean why would you take the chance that some errant drone or missile is going to take you out. I don't need that and I don't think any of you do either so that's just my own personal advice. 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Turning now to this lably situation in Russia, some more information being released. But frankly, none of it is making us feel any better about the situation. So Trump was pressed yesterday in the Oval Office about what we know about the situation. He seemed to be trying to calm the situation down despite the fact the US government is actually protesting to Russia to try and get more information. Here's what he had to say. Is the plague in Russia a bio-weapon? Well, we don't think so, but we're going to find that soon enough. But we don't think so. And if you listen to them, it's under control. You know, people have said that before about other things. So we hope it is very sophisticated, very smart. And they're saying it's very much under control. So we hope not, Peter. We've heard this before a couple of years ago during your first term. Are you getting the same five? Many times before. I'm in a different thing. Are you getting the same five right now from Russia that you got from China at the start of COVID? Well, China didn't say much. And Russia is not saying much either, but they do say they haven't very much under control. Behind the scenes, here's what's actually going on. Let's put the next one up here on the screen. Trump is trying to calm things down. But it turns out that the State Department actually has sent Russia a confidential diplomatic warning saying that its silence about this death at the Plague Research Institute is running against its obligation under international health regulations, which also required prompt notice to the WHO of any potential health emergency. Behind the scenes, Russia actually called the information Moscow has shared still limited. He's urged more transparent things that agencies are watching it closely. Right now the WHO rates the possible economic plague outcase as, quote, "very low risk outside of Russia." But what you can see from this Wall Street Journal piece is that there are escalating things happening at the official level where they're basically begging them for more information in some of these confidential exchanges. And part of the thing is that there's no details that have yet been released by the Russians. What they have released is actually kind of scary. Let's go to the next part here. Russia says it has found no emergency in the Plague lab. No information around the lab, death worker, including a statement has now come after the U.S. demand. So I'm going to read you from their official health regulator, their statement as translated obviously. They said that the researcher who died had been, quote, "vaccinated against the pathogens that she worked with and that no emergency situations had occurred at the lab." Right now they are urging Moscow, obviously from the United States, for more details. All they were really able to say was that she was vaccinated and therefore, quote, "had immunity to the dangerous infection she worked with." And the statement implies that she actually had a much lower risk of contracting the natural plague which she would have been vaccinated, though it does not definitively rule out becoming ill with the disease. It would, again, as I understand it right now, it would rule out the likelihood, not rule out, but it would diminish the risk, the likelihood of her death. Obviously she was 28 years old, presumably, healthy and, of course, died in these mysterious circumstances. This is actually enhancing crystal, even more speculation that this might have been some sort of genetically modified or, you know, gain a function style, style strain of the bacteria specifically because if you had a vaccination, and if this was a normal laboratory accident, what would have happened would have pulled the emergency alarm and she would not have come into contact with the nearly 200 people and others in the city of Irkutsk, and it definitely would not have led to the current screenings that are happening in these maternity wards and around these hospitals. So no confirm more infections as of right now, but I do think it does highlight that they are not telling the truth. And, you know, more broadly, speaking with Annie on our show and what I've learned even more from some of the other lab experts is that nothing about the way this is being handled is consistent with the laboratory accident. You can actually rule that out, basically, in the way that the public health authorities have responded. Either she was smuggling something out, she was infected by something, like we said, that's much more genetically modified, and this is a known bio weapons facility with a long history in the Soviet BioWeapons program, and their tight lippedness around this and the total amount of control that they have imposed on Irkutsk with the information blackout makes things very reminiscent of COVID, and the WHO, the United States, and others still asking for answers kind of panically behind the scenes. Yeah, I think we just don't have enough information to say whether this is something that we should be afraid of or whether it is a minor blip that will all move past shortly because also some of their actions are consistent with what they are claiming, which is that she died of some sort of pneumonia. Now, that would be very unusual for someone who is 28 years old. It would be highly unusual, but it wouldn't be impossible. And so if you had a researcher at this facility who died in a mysterious way, if you were a responsible government, what you would do is out of an abundance of caution, some of the things that they had done, the lockdowns of the hospital, the quarantine, the testing, et cetera. Now, of course, we don't trust our own government, we shouldn't trust the Russian government, the information that they're putting forward, et cetera, I do think the piece about the notion that she was vaccinated against the strain that she was working with, that just sounds very plausible based on what your typical lab protocol would be. It is worth saying that that vaccination is not 100%, so even if she was vaccinated, she was exposed to a still possibility that she would contract the plague and die without having been enhanced. Although these are obviously things that we have to be concerned about and worried about given what we've all been through and what we know is possible. So I don't know, maybe I just have already too many existential worries on my plate. I can't really wrap my head around another one, so I'm looking at this and going, I need more information before I freak out about it because as much as we are lacking in specific information, there continue to be a lot of question marks. There's also not been confirmed sort of like anarchy or breaks masks, social breakdown in the region. I'm sure that we do have quite a bit of intel resources there to know what they're doing. Our own government doesn't seem to be completely panicked or freaking out about it, so I'm going to, I'm going to wait on this one before I go full like five alarm fire. To be fair, I actually am not that worried for a total international COVID style outbreak and the reason why is everything that we're able to understand about this disease is that it's literally so deadly and horrific that you will not make it to the gate for your flight. Like you will not be able to asymptomatically pass this disease. If you get it, you will come into contact with that person. You will know how sick that person is. They're not leaving their house basically. So it's actually more about lab safety, about known bio weapons than it is necessarily like this specific one. And I think that's why it is important. It also does again highlight the breakdown in all of these so-called bio weapons conventions and international health regulation like no country has a interest in actually abiding by these things. And that's part of the issue. So that's part of the reason I wanted to focus on. Let's put before, let's take a list and hear the CDC director is giving an update asked about it yesterday to Wall Street Journal Conference. The situation in Russia right now, the US has warned Moscow about its failure to disclose details of the death of a lab worker from a plague research center in Siberia. What steps are you and the federal health apparatus taking to ensure that America is protected from this potential spread, whatever is happening there? Yeah, so the CDC certainly and the whole of government, we are hearing the same thing that the American public is hearing that there is an unconfirmed case of what we've heard of is mnemonic plague. It's from Yersinia Pestus, it's a bacterial disease, very serious bacterial disease. The one good thing, if I could say there's a good thing, is that it's a treatable, highly treatable bacterial disease with common antibiotics that most physicians within the United States can utilize. This is a disease that is spread person to person through respiratory droplets, but like I said, if we can identify cases early, they're absolutely treatable. What we're doing from a whole of government standpoint is we're making sure that we understand exactly what that threat is. We are very confident that the threat to the United States is extremely low. There are about 200 flights that come into the United States from Siberia, that region. We are working with Department of Homeland Security, working Department of State, Department of War, and other agencies within the government to make sure that we know exactly if anyone from that area comes into the United States. Like I said, there are about 200 flights per year. They typically come into JFK. We have a Port Health Station set up in JFK so that we can do appropriate surveillance and screening if anyone from that area comes into the United States. So we're very well-positioned to make sure that we are protected from a potential threat like that. Is Russia being adequately transparent with the US? So from what I understand from the Department of State and from others within Department of Homeland Security, we are still having those conversations about what exactly happened in Siberia. Relatively reassuring, Crystal, although I feel like every movie that's a zombie movie starts with a clip, just like that, so maybe I have to worry about something to worry about. We got everything under control. We got it all handled at JFK and I'm like, I'm like, okay, she seems like a smart lady. Sounds reasonable. Dr. Erik Schwartz, let's put the last one element up here from the WHO. This was significant, Annie Flagg, because there's actually the first time WHO has even acknowledged the situation, the World Health Organization saying, but actively following this reported death in response to the verification requests under IHR guidelines, health authorities reported no case of plague has been registered in the Erkutsk oblast. They have informed the WHO, an epidemiological investigation had been conducted, preventative and control measures implemented, and identified contacts placed under medical observation tested. They reported that no high-threat pathogens have been detected among contacts. Medical observation of all identified contacts had been completed, so that's it for what we have right now. We're going to keep our eyes obviously on the story, and as Crystal said, look, it's not something to panic about that's going to be happening, at least in terms of what a lot of these epidemiologists are saying right now, but it does highlight the problem around lab leaks, around safety, around the way the governments communicate about these things, and just like with COVID, I think what's important about COVID is that the people who would follow this, obviously not me, I didn't wake up one day, and I was like, oh, you know, lab leaks happen all the time, is that there were so many precipitating and precursor incidents that people like Richard E. Brie and others who had all been warning about this for literally decades from anthrax and leading up to this in like a 20 year period could point back and say, hey, look, this system is not working, and eventually the big one is going to happen, and then it did like with COVID. And so I think that's how we should look at this situation because it's a very, very deadly and horrific, you know, pathogen, however, it is so deadly, in fact, it may not likely to be caused some sort of global health epidemic, but that doesn't mean that the next one or some sort of other virus or bacteria, which is being genetically modified, won't be. And in fact, the same director of this plague institute laboratory, as we showed everybody in one of our previous shows, had just traveled to China, not only to participate in an exercise about the outbreak of plague, but around tick-borne diseases, which we know like Lyme disease here in the United States has at least the potential to of itself have leaked from the Plum Island Research Defense Laboratory in the 1970s. So those are exactly the type of things that apparently the United States and Russia had all been researching at the time of the Cold War, Russia itself is currently embroiled in a long, you know, ground war, which is grinding to a halt. And many of those types of diseases, bio-weapons, and others are specifically studied for the implementation to unleash on the enemy in order to weaken their resolve and some sort of Spanish flu style 1918 pandemic collapse. And so always important, I think, to highlight. Yes. Well, the other thing is now we don't just have to worry about governments. We're really excited for the Anthropic Wet Lab that they're setting up. I mean, and this is, you know, one of the things that is a great fear of mine with regard to AI. So it's a reminder too of how deadly these things can be, how quickly they can spread. Not that any of us really needed that reminder because of what we have all lived through at this point. So it's important to take these things seriously. I don't know if you saw that some hacker who appears to have not been all that skilled using off the shelf, not even the frontier AI models was able to hack into the South Korean banking system. And again, using like pretty unsophisticated techniques based on other technical analysts who were looking at it and were like, oh, they didn't even do this basic thing you would do to hide your identity. And we're asking Claude also things like, hey, can you make a resume for me? So they got all of their contact details. So didn't exactly seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer and yet able to pull off what was a sophisticated hack. And so that's the problem is when you enable this highly technical, sophisticated technology to be in the hands of anyone now, anyone who has a nefarious purpose or deeply ideological viewpoint who wants to unleash something terrible on the world, they are more likely to have the tools to do so. So that's part of the concern too is that now we don't just have to worry about governments. We have to learn, worry about pretty much anyone. Yeah, for any private laboratory, chemist sets and all, wow, too much, too much for today. Okay, let's get to Michigan. I'm Lexi, you want to wear two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not gonna get any of your fighting. That is wild. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. As you told us how accommodating you are, obviously I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Lier. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, I don't really care. I'm Lexi Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of SCAM Goddess Podcasts. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I'm talking about scams from the 1800s, all the way up to today. So if you like fun, if you like comedy, and you like learning and protecting yourself from criminals, start listening to SCAM Goddess on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. SCAM Goddess! Hi, this is Kylie Breakman, Angel Jaretana. Here, Michael Hayne, Patrick McDonnell. And we're the hosts of the artist on artist on artist on artist podcast. What I try to do is foe journal, I don't know if you guys heard of foe journaling. Yeah, it's reading. It's called reading. Yeah, so we don't like to use that word anymore. Okay. No! I've been dying too. I'm so sorry. I'm seeing a reading of Sudako in the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audrement Donald at the Wonderland Bookstore, 14. That's crazy. I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday, and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of Zero Dark Thirty. No way. Patrick of the last bookstore, though. Kim Katrol is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday. Yeah. I hear you. You'll get almost here. The eyelashes hate each other. You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artists on artists on the I heard radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So breaking just this morning, we have a New York Times report about how a top aid to Mike Huckabee has been actively covering up negative information about the Israeli government in an effort to protect Netanyahu. So this is a man who works for the US government, and yet he is covering up negative information about the Israeli government in an effort to hide the truth from the White House and indeed from President Trump. So let me read the TLDR they put here at the top. So they say late March at the height of the Iran War, Israel quietly approved more settlements in the Israeli occupied West Bank than it ever had at one time. Staff members at the US Embassy in Jerusalem saw the move as potentially flouting when a President Trump's explicit red lines for Israel, no annexation of the West Bank and drafted an urgent report intended for policymakers in Washington. That memo never reached Washington. It was quashed by David Milstein, a top aid to ambassador Mike Huckabee, according to three US officials briefed on the process they go on to say that this was no isolated incident. He is repeatedly suppressed or significantly revised embassy reporting on Israeli activities to present the Netanyahu government in a favorable light. Here are the examples that they give. As settler violence in the West Bank search in the spring, he stymied embassy reporting suggesting the Israeli government was failing to take action, instead, he sent a cable to Washington praising Israel for cracking down on the attacks. So quashed the truth and actively lied to them in a cable that was sent to Washington when members of Congress pushed for accountability over the killing of nine Palestinian Americans. Okay, again, Americans killed by Israeli settlers and security forces. He suppressed a detailed report the embassy staff had written effectively stonewalling lawmakers efforts to gain information soon. After arriving in Jerusalem, Mr. Milstein began insisting on approving communications from the embassy section that handles Palestinian affairs. The flow of cables plummeted from several a week to a few a month as some staffers refrain from writing reports for fear Mr. Milstein would block or rewrite them. They go on to say his interventions go far beyond those of any recent predecessor. I mean, in my view, Saga, this is literally treasonous, protecting the interests of a foreign government over the interests of the government that you work for, the country that you are a citizen of. This is completely insane. Absolutely. And don't forget, Milstein is Mark Levin's stepson. Now, I don't usually care about these types of things except for the fact that apparently in the Trump administration, nobody wants to touch him because he's Mark Levin's stepson. Now normally, if the United States ambassador found out that their chief of staff was editing cables, manipulating intelligence as being sent to Washington, they would be furious about it. Instead, Mike Huckabee is defending him. Don't forget that this is the same David Milstein. I don't know if we even covered this story on the show. I know I certainly mentioned it to you is the same guy who, when he was getting married, solicited cash donations in dollars and shekels from his guess for his wedding. Now, I guess that's, I mean, you know, donations and all of that is largely part of the course. However, this was in such a fashion where he sent out a QR code, making it easier to all of the guests, basically saying, hey, anybody can donate, you know, literal cash to this. He had claimed after it was reported in Politico that it was meant to only go to a small circle of family and friends and not to everybody. But nonetheless, the reason why it was highlighted was for the potential of corruption because there are corruption guidelines that govern people who serve in public office solicitation of cash donations. And yes, especially if they come from foreign, from foreign citizens. And in this case, obviously, in the nation of Israel. So this is incredibly a wild story. I mean, as you said, treasonous behavior because it's not just about manipulating intelligence and cables specifically to make the Netanyahu government look better. What it really is is you have this situation where you have American citizens who have been killed in the West Bank. Your embassy is supposed to look out for your interests and especially to pressure the host government who is responsible Israel in this case who occupies the West Bank into making sure that there is an investigation that has taken place. The actual embassy workers responsible are like, yep, nothing's happening. They're not doing anything about this. Clearly, this is being sidelined. There's not going to be any justice. He comes in and defends the Netanyahu government basically saying they're doing a good job. Same whenever it comes to settler violence. And so here you have like the, it comes all together like full circle. You've got Mark Levin steps on who nobody wants to touch because he's Mark Levin steps on to be fair, you know, previously worked for Ron DeSantis and some of these other, you know, long time person in American politics on the right, but always has had a massively pro Israel bent, then becomes a chief of staff in the United States embassy and is now doing this and basically being caught with no repercussions from Washington, from the state department or from the White House. And so I think that's what is the craziest part. I mean, if you were some, as we saw actually we interviewed one of those people, a state department employee who was just trying to pass the facts on about, you know, restraint and some pro Israel influence. He's totally, or he was trying to do his job in a more apolitical way. This guy gets fired largely at the behest of David Milstein, whereas Milstein can basically be caught manipulating intelligence or using his position to make the Israeli government look better in official diplomatic channels and he gets a complete free pass from the Trump White House, from Marco Rubio and also from, you know, the embassy itself. So much so that the funny part is is that despite what Ben Shapiro and those people would tell you, it's not like the people who work at US Embassy Jerusalem, you know, the so-called career diplomats are like rabbit Hamas leftists. These are almost certainly, you know, bipartisan pro Israel, mainstays, who already have been screened by the Trump administration who are working in that building. Those are the people who are like, "Yo, man, what David Milstein is doing is crazy." So keep that in mind whenever you, when you see who the source for a lot of this stuff is. Yeah, even if they're like holdovers from the Biden administration, "Oh, were they like pro Hamas and pro Palestine like be for real?" What US president could you point to where it's like, "Oh, they're a holdover from George H. W. Bush who actually pushed back a little bad." I mean, you have to go wave back to find someone who would break from the pro Israel consensus that we've had has had a, you know, a lock grip on the country for so long. Here's another instance just to show you how far this goes because it's not just like a handful of cases. In the summer of 2025, dozens of Palestinians seeking food were killed near the distribution sites run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, people who watch our show. We'll certainly remember us talking about this quite a bit. In that cable, diplomats, American diplomats warned that the foundation's distribution process was chaotic and deadly and risked more mass casualty events, Milstein rewrote the cable to declare GHF's operation a success while overlooking the mass casualties all together. So literally took what the diplomats were saying, "Hey, this is a disaster, it's chaotic, people are getting killed, like this is not good." And totally erased that and instead said, "This is going great. This is amazing, mass casualty event, what mass casualty event, this has been a tremendous success." So it is truly, look, it's not shocking, but we still have to look at this and say it is unbelievable that someone who has truly amassed by the way, you may have never heard him before out there, but he has amassed a lot of power within this administration and has been very influential in terms of the Israeli policy, which of course has governed a lot of our foreign policy. He is completely lying about the facts of what's happening in an effort to cover up and make the Netanyahu government look good. He is totally, completely disgusting. And by the way, HatTip shout out to Quincy Institute who had some of this reporting first quite a while ago before New York Times got their hands on some of these details. Absolutely. I told Trita this privately. I said, "You achieved the impossible. You did something first and got the New York Times to acknowledge it, which they never do." So that is how dead on that they actually were. I do want to just remind two people too about Milstein. Milstein is the person who was also in that meeting with Jonathan Pollard and may have helped make that happen. Remember the convicted spy Jonathan Pollard who set foot back on U.S. soil at the embassy in Jerusalem at the invitation of Mike Huckabee, to which he still, this to this day, has no apologies for what he's done, even though Huckabee himself actually pushed for a pardon and for his own release while he was an elected official because he was so unfairly treated. In my opinion, he didn't serve nearly long enough in prison. That's who exactly what we're dealing with. That's what they think of people. I mean, at a certain point, you're like, "Where are you working for, man?" And I think we all know the answer. And you also can see why. Yeah, go ahead. And to your point, Saga, it's not like this guy came out of nowhere. He's been in aid to a bunch of rep-- I mean, he's totally mainstream within Republican political circles. Also, former top aid to Ted Cruz, which may not work. Oh, yeah. I've heard stories about you. You'll see for years. Well, maybe one day I'll be able to report some of the things. The shenanigans has been up to for a decade. I will say what's also important about this is people often wonder about Trump as mindset and with BB. But here you can see how the information-- this is why systems matter so much-- that information that bubbles up. Let's say when Trump asks and goes, "Hey, what's going on with these Americans who have been killed?" Let's say on the very off chance that he even hears about it. Well, if you ask for the info and the info is coming from US Embassy Jerusalem, and he's cooking the information from US Embassy Jerusalem, people are like, "Oh, it didn't go down the way that the media is saying. That's why this stuff is so important is that usually they're supposed to actually just give the facts or at the very least their own assessment about what's going on. You change that assessment. You can change the entire ramifications of all of this." And I haven't seen any of those families get any recognition or any oval office meetings for their deaths or investigate nothing. I mean, you have a few congressmen and senators who may speak up and say something. But these people-- I mean, their literal family members are dead at the hands of settlers. And nothing has been done for them. And the people who are supposed to represent them regardless of race or their own-- which side they follow in the conflict-- you usually used to have this feeling when you would travel abroad. And then American, my embassy will do something for me if something happens. If you are in the West Bank, you already know that's not the case, but now you especially know that that's the case. And it's terrible. You know, that's absolutely right. And none of this is to let Trump off of the hook, by the way, you know, if we're able to get the information, the President of the United States certainly could. He's constructed this intentional information bubble. And so, you know, he's susceptible to these sort of very simple lies and manipulations, but that is all of his own making and his own responsibility. Meanwhile, guys, I'm sure on there you're worried about gas prices, you're worried about being able to afford a home, you're worried about, you know, whether there can be any jobs for your kids after they go to college because of AI. Don't worry. The Trump administration is really in touch with your deep concerns about the future. That is why they're launching this task force to combat antisemitism, let's take a listen. Our nation is at a pivotal moment. In recent years, we have seen a disturbing rise in antisemitic rhetoric and acts of hatred against fellow citizens. Let me say this, hate has no place in America, and this Department of Justice remains committed to confronting it wherever it appears. What makes America unique is the promise embedded in our Constitution that all Americans should freely enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This Department of Justice is committed to protecting those freedoms and upholding law and order to ensure that that promise endures. Under President Trump's leadership, this administration has one goal to make sure that every American has the freedom to enjoy their rights guaranteed to them by God, the Constitution, and our laws. That is why this Department has already taken decisive action to safeguard American civil rights in cities and universities across the country. We have accomplished a lot in just the past year and we are only just beginning. I mean, you can't take these people seriously. Like, this is the administration that ran against DEI and wokeness who, under Stephen Miller, is literally running a whites-only immigration policy, and we're supposed to imagine that, you know, on this one issue, they actually deeply care and that this is going to do something about, quote unquote, anti-Semitic A. Why is it that they only care about this one particular form of bigotry? Well, I mean, for one thing, there's, we, of course, know some of the structural factors influencing American politics. But the other piece here, soger, of course, is politics itself. The first stop on the anti-Semitism tour just so happens to be in the swings to a very important Senate control of Michigan. Yeah. Shocking. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine if Biden took the DOJ on a, and a, like some sort of, I'm trying to think, CRT, I'm like a pro-CRT critical race theory or a Florida in 2022, I would be losing it. I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now, I would be absolutely losing it. People should be losing it around this, too, because this is the power of the federal government, and not just the power of the federal government, we're not even talking about the White House. We're talking about the Department of Justice, which has multiple times prosecuted bullshit incidents of so-called anti-Semitism, or they have brought cases or brought their, you know, threats against, like, civil misdemeanor-style cases, which could easily be handled by the University of Florida, you know, like the University of Florida, campus police, or Los Angeles PD, and which would be a literal civil matter, and escalating it all the way up to the top of the federal government. So this, I have joked, previous, not really, joke, because it's true. The Department of Justice actually did a Bohemian ex-Kendee's dream of the Department of Anti-Racism, but they decided to create it as the Department of Anti-Semitism, and that's effectively what we see here right now. Obviously, the politicalization of it with Michigan. And what you point out is so important, like, their definition of anti-Semitism is fake. It's Israel-Corticism. That is, and that's not hyperbole. That's their literal definition of anti-Semitism is criticism of Israel. And of course, we've seen the way that they've weaponized that and applied that, you know, if you want to talk about Makhmoon Khalil, or to your point, these silly examples of some Florida student who bumped into a guy with an IDF sweatshirt and became, you know, some natural. It's such a hate crime. We have to do something about this just utterly, utterly ridiculous. But they think that they have a chance in Michigan because there's a pretty significant Jewish population that's been expressing some concerns, at least among some corners, about Abdullah Sayah that maybe they can help to peel off some of those voters. So that's part of the reason for the timing here. Lisa? Tell them about our new show. I'm Lexi Juaneu, we're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. I'm Lisa Julio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Listen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of SCAM Goddess The True Crime Comedy Podcast, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on an amazing guest, ooh, I scammed him, I could talk to you for an hour. You're a generational yapper, like me, that's why I had to make yapping a job. Start listening to SCAM Goddess on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here, Michael Hayne, Patrick McDonald. The Improvized Character Comedy Podcast, where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. You can, I hear you, you can almost hear the eyelashes hate each other. 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