10/5/26: Insane AI Video Used In Court, Plague Leaks From Russian Lab, Trump Backs Daylight Saving End

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Turning now to our AI future. Let's see some of the great things that this technology is unleashing upon us. Let's put it up here on the screen. One of the crazy stories I have ever seen. The Arizona Court of Appeals has now thrown-- has now thrown out a 10-year manslaughter sentence and ordered a recentencing of Gabrielle Paul Hor-Sacitas. I apologize to the family if I mispronounce that. The court found that an AI-generated video showing the victim, Christopher Pelke, addressing the judge was unreliable. The three judge panel said the video went too far. It didn't document real events. And it presented invented statements as if Pelke himself had said them. The judge described it as a depiction built from his sister's imagination of what he would think. In November 2021, Hor-Sacitas now 55 shot and killed Pelke during a road rage confrontation at a stoplight in Chandler, Arizona. Pelke was unarmed and had gotten out of his truck and walked towards his vehicle. He was convicted of manslaughter and endagement for a shot that hit another car. The AI video was created by his sister. It is believed to be the very first use case in a United States court. And it was played at the May 2025 sentencing after nine family members and friends spoke. In the video, he talked about missing his loved ones, believing in forgiveness, and suggested that he might have been friends under different circumstances with the perpetrator. It did not request a particular sentence. The lawyer then argued the judge violated due process by relying on the video. She said the video didn't disclose who wrote its words and had no evidence showing that it reflected his actual views. Also argued that it carried more emotional weight and apparent authenticity than if a relative had actually read the words aloud. And her client had no chance to rebut. They said the judge did not err. This is from the prosecution, who apparently defended it. The judge didn't err that the video actually reflected his character and that Lang didn't consider the judge, consider it in sentencing. They also noted the judge had already heard from many family members and that nothing in the video was inflammatory. So with all of that said, I want to show you some of this video. Let's take a listen. Hello. Just to be clear, for everyone seeing this, I am a version of Chris Pelke recreated through AI that uses my picture and my voice profile. I was able to be digitally regenerated to share with you today. So I would like to make my own impact statement. So hello, everybody. Thank you so much for being here today. It means a lot. I can't tell you how humbled I am for those that spoke up for me, everyone who flew in, took off work, those who are watching this remotely. And for everyone who has supported my family and loved ones through three and a half years and two trials, I wish I could be with you all today. To your honor, Judge Lang, thank you for making yourself available to see this case to the end, especially when the rescheduled trial conflicted with your daughter's spring break. Thank you for listening to everyone today. Thank you for reading the flood of impact statements that came in before today that so many people rode on my behalf. Every single one of them is meaningful and gives a glimpse into my life with each of them. To Gabriel Horkesita, the man who shot me. It is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness. And in God who forgives, I always have. And I still do. I don't know, Ryan, what do you think, man? What are they doing? What is going on? You can't do that. What is happening? I mean, this is really for you. Well, if the prosecution can do that, can the defense-- Yeah, I guess. I mean, use your AI imagery to be like-- The fence bring up the guy and be like-- So the judge gave a harsher sentence, even though he, in the video there, the fake guy is like, I forgive you. But what if the defense makes a video of the guy saying, your honor, I really insist you give Michael, no jail time, whatsoever. And in fact, reward him for what he did to me. Yeah, I mean, the entire thing is so crazy to me. And apparently, the family was even warned. They're like, hey, if you use this video, you could lose on appeal. And they did it anyways. Look, I get it. They're grieving, so I'm going to blame them. I think I'm going to blame the state. I'm like, what are you guys doing? First of all, why would you want to set this precedent? You want to set this precedent that anybody can just recreate some video or AI genre? This guy-- no offense, love my sister. But it's like, hey, come on. You've got videos of me for thousands of hours speaking. Anybody could create literally anything. I mean, saying something. Please don't do so to anybody who is out there. If in the event of my tragic death that they had, why would death and then use it as a sentence, it's so crazy. I think it's a long history. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Especially don't show me doing something that I would never do. And speaking of that, we now also just to show you where the world is going. This was a new company. It's called Tavis. They introduced Griffin. So we are personally blaming our producer, Griffin, for having this name. The first model, which they claim has passed the video Turing Test. To be clear, the video Turing Test claims are from their own study of 54 one-minute phone calls, not independently verified, et cetera, et cetera. However, the video is pretty damn good. So let's put all this like Turing Test up aside. Just to show you where things are currently trending and how literally you'll be able to trust that's out there, let's take a listen. Now, how about just a thumbs up? Sure, one thumbs up, coming right up. Hell yeah, that was awesome. I would say you're my favorite co-worker. It's been really great to work on this with you. You're making me blush. Ah, who's that with the ugly sweater? Yeah, I thrifted this. Yeah, it definitely looks like it. Oh my gosh, OK. 1%, you're living on the edge, yes, aren't. Truly, I'll keep my breathing steady so I don't drain your CPU any faster. Wow, you actually did slow down your breathing. It's like the line between talking to a machine and just talking to someone is getting really, really thin. Yeah, it really feels like we're passing a Turing Test soon. But honestly, if we want people to see the human part of the simulation, maybe that's the most real thing we could show them, what do you think? Is it too much? No, no, I think this is it. Look, maybe it's marketing on their part of short days, which is a lot of tech people who are super excited about that. I don't know. For me, I'm like, bannett, just bannett. You know, it's like one of those where, what utility is there in these fake Zoom calls? Can you imagine this spam that's going to be unleashed on people? You're like, hey, you know, oh, let me prove my identity to you by a quick phone call. And literally, I'll be completely fake. I mean, I guess we're already kind of there. But this, I just, I see a lot of problems ahead, Ryan. Make them, make them all be anime or cartoons. That's smart. Because like people are going to want to engage with these like video robots. Can you imagine a world where somebody's schizophrenic gets to program an AI that they get to speak to another person where it affirms every single thing that they, like it's already one thing. It's already happening on the channel. No, that's happening in chat. But with video. Right. Yeah, I'm sure that's really going to help a lot of mental health problems that we currently have in our society. So yeah, that's going to be awesome. Pretty much the porn industry. Oh, yeah, no, trust me, they're going to be fine. Because all they're going to buy this technology tomorrow. And yeah, the real question is when only fans is going to buy this company, which is the most likely result of our of our current system. All right, let's get to Annie Jacobson. I take a lot of jobs. Yes, somebody's going to cry for them. Let's get to Annie Jacobson. She's standing by to discuss this crazy lab leak that's happening in Russia. She's standing by. Let's get to it. And the argument is, do you want to win? If you don't win, you have no power. It's real. Those are the very people who I always say voted against their own economic interests. And they complained about the very thing they were seeing. It's wrong. I knew that the issue of transgender athletes was not going well with a lot of black men. Roland Martin unfiltered. filtered. I went off. I said this is exactly what I'm talking about. Y'all go scream at Chanel, but you don't want to see a black luxury company in the same bag. 12 seats. Those are moving south. So if you Democrats, you don't wait to 23. You better be hitting the ground going a heart in the south now. And download Roland Martin unfiltered on the IHOT radio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. Very excited now to be joined by Annie Jacobson. She is the author of Biological War scenario. She previously joined our show, actually, to not only discuss the book, but many of the lurking threats in our society and around the world, specifically present for many of these labs, which are doing research on infectious diseases and others. Unfortunately, one of the scenarios, which you specifically write about in the book, appears to have now be in its beginning stages. Let's put your tweet up here on the screen, e2 guys, so I can read from it. And Annie, I'll allow, I'll, you know, let you please like to jump in at any point and to explain what has happened. BSL 3 lab accident appears to have happened in Siberia, the city of Erkutsk, where there have been multiple now hospitals, which replaced under quarantine and outbreak of pneumomic plague, which appears to have already killed one researcher. Quarantine is not voluntary, even in the U.S. quarantine is among the most extraordinary measures that a government can impose on our citizens. On citizens, I know that you specifically study Russia extensively going into the book writing process. Tell us a little bit about what we know, the dangers, and then some of the Russian government's actions that tells us about how severe this is so far. Well, the whole situation is completely unusual and bizarre. The only thing that's not bizarre is that Russia is now denying everything. After initially having a very strong reaction to this reported pneumonic plague accident at a lab in Siberia, which the FSB was involved transporting citizens in ambulances to hospitals, which are now quarantined. So that is like a heavy hammer initial reaction followed by complete denial, which I think that narrative makes it very troubling because really look, the basic bottom line to be worried about is all of this is pneumonic plague in the wild is extremely unusual. Usually it starts as bubonic plague and pneumonic plague becomes the secondary component, pneumonic means of the lungs. And so to have something that is called primary pneumonic plague suggests that there could be perhaps biological engineering going on, weapons engineering. And so the Russian denials don't seem to make a whole lot of sense because they come after the reporting that there was a lab accident, a woman broke a vile, and then died within days. Another saying, well, it's unrelated. I'm like, okay, that's just doesn't seem like remotely plausible. But I've also heard people say, well, don't worry, we have antibiotics for some pneumonic plague. What is your sense of whether or not this would be one of those that we do have, let's say does, you know, continue to expand, do have antibiotics for, or is it more likely if it's coming out of this lab that this is one of the engineered ones engineered to be resisted to antibiotics? Okay, so let's start with the basic fact about pneumonic plague. If you don't have antibiotics, it is 100% deadly, meaning you get it, you die. If you're immediately treated with antibiotics, and when I say immediately, I mean required within the first 24 hours, that drops to about a 17% death rate. So yes, it is controllable. Remember, COVID was 1% death rate. So 17% is still extraordinarily high. But yes, antibiotics can kill that, provided its mother nature's strain. So there's just no way of knowing what is troublesome as the whole sort of like test to breaking idea. I mean, you would have to have a wet slurry of Y pastus. That's the bacteria. It would have to splash up in your face, go into your nose. And if you're a lab worker, and you know that happened, you are going to immediately pull a personal alarm and be under doctor's care immediately. So that apparently didn't happen. This individual was allegedly walking around. The whole thing doesn't really make much sense. The only thing again that does make sense is Russia clamping down on all this. And I think they don't probably really care about how they're perceived outside of Russia. But how this is perceived inside Siberia is what is most important. In other words, they have put the immediate cabosh on any local journalist reporting on this. Those who originally wrote about it have gone dark. And also local newspapers are no longer reporting on sort of hospitals being under quarantine. And even more important, some of them are actually denying that they were under quarantine or that they said they were under quarantine. In some ways, Annie, you know, this hap this this the geography is really on Russia side. I don't think people appreciate how remote or kutsk is. It is one of the most room. I think it might be the most remote city in the globe. I think it's the coldest. I believe probably not an accident that the lab was located there in the first place. How we do know at least at a high level we can put E4 up here on the screen. I know that this matches much of your own reporting. Currently Axios is saying that the White House is monitoring the suspected plague outbreak in Russia. And this morning secretary Rubio said that they have all eyes on the situation. I know you put out on your feed that you've been in touch or at least are aware that our national authorities are taking this very seriously. Can you elaborate maybe a little bit on what that entails? What does that look like from a monitoring perspective? When the book published I was contacted by a number of current administration officials. I'm talking military intelligence diplomatic. Even the director of the BSL-4 lab at Fort Detrick Dr. Bergman invited me to come do a Q&A with his staff at that military. I mean at that lab, which is pretty extraordinary, but of course I was talking with staff about specifically pneumonic plague, which is pretty surprising. And so when this happened on Friday morning, I was immediately contacted by the lab director, you know, about the situation. Of course they can't tell me anything that's classified. But it's really more away of being a journalist, then being able to convey information to people through social media, which is remarkable. What's important here I think is for, you know, I write this in the acknowledgement of my book. The point is not panic as much as its pressure and pressure begins with information. And so the fact that Americans and really the international community at large is paying attention to this, is asking questions, is learning things like, wait a minute, what is pneumonic plague? Can we treat it with antibiotics? These kinds of things are actually a positive thing to come out of this really grim situation certainly for the people in Siberia right now. Yeah. What do you, what do you make of the language is coming out of Russia where they say, pneumonia of unknown etiology? What would say? Yeah, I'm sorry to laugh, but that's just like a straight-up line in my book because that's the Chinese Wuhan playbook. Like I said, this is a pneumonia of unknown etiology. It's just like saying back off and don't ask us anything else. And so I actually use that line by Russian officials in the scenario I write about pneumonic plague. Now, in the scenario I write, the pneumonic plague has been genetically modified for greater transmissibility, greater virulence, and to defeat medical countermeasures, i.e. antibiotics. And so there's a real problem and I take the reader from outbreak to anarchy in six days. We're at like, what day four here? So we haven't seen anarchy in Siberia as of yet. But I think, you know, what's interesting here is that a lot of nomenclature gets thrown at the public like etiology so that people's head start spinning and they don't really know what to make of this very dangerous and unnerving situation. One of the things that you write extensively about, you wondered about on our show, was the breakdown of international communication. And in fact, you know, one of the legacies, positive legacies that could have come out of COVID was, okay, let's all just cut the BS. It leaked from the Wuhan lab, the WHO, the CDC, we all withed it and it was handled terribly. We have a huge breakdown in public health communication, we need to come together. Probably the opposite has happened both nationally and internationally. So let's say that this does progress or become a bigger problem. What mechanisms are actually in place right now to be able to stop the spread of something like this? What can we all look for? And how confident are you in those institutions? I mean, that's a like multi-headed question, all of which are important. But let's start with communicating. You know, WHO has not said anything as far as I know. Numeric plague is a reportable situation. And so my guess is that Russia hasn't properly reported to WHO. They're trying to maintain decent relationship. Russia closed its Moscow office, so they're working out of an office in Europe. I mean, you know, that's problem number one. We haven't heard anything from CDC as far as I know yet, and that has to do with what I just said about WHO. They try to be in sync. Communication is so important. People knew about this on Friday, thanks to social media. Incredibly important. You know, the second part of your question was about, sorry, tell me that again. Oh, I said about communication, and then what's your confidence level in our institutions to be able to respond to something like this? I'm going to quote a terrifying line that the Pentagon gave me when I was reporting the book, and they said, "In the event of a major biological incident, there is very little you can do to defend against it, only mitigate extermination." So everybody knows that once something arrives, most specifically, if it's genetically modified. Numeric plague in the wild has a pretty low transmissibility rate. It's about 1.5, meaning, you know, you have to be like sort of spitting or coughing on someone, and you would have to be very sick to be doing that. So that is why these epidemics are generally sort of like burned out before they take over. There was one in 2017 in Madagascar, and that's because people travel in really crowded taxis, and it caused a sort of super spreader, many super spreader events. So again, genetic modifications to a pathogen like Numeric plague, that is scenario nightmare. Natural Numeric plague turning into an epidemic is much less realistic. We just don't know, we have to wait and see what will happen with the secondary case infections, but what it is looking like now is we in the West are going to get no news out of Siberia. And so I just checked for flights from Irkuts to, say, Beijing and Washington, you could still go on and get a flight. So the airport, even though it's isolated, this is not the middle of the 20th century anymore. You can get in and out of the area. So my question is, what is the hope that this is contained? Yes. Okay, there was an outbreak, there's this patient zero died, but they quarantined everything, and it's back in the lab. So how likely is that compared to, we start hearing about cases in China or elsewhere? Again, this goes back to genetic modification. And the genetic modifications are real. They've been tracked by the CIA and the State Department. They're a legacy, they have a legacy in the Soviet, the illegal Soviet biological weapons program, which the State Department believes was absorbed into the current program. And those modifications do things like make transmissibility easier by doing things, I write this in the scenario, like inserting a gene for euphoria onto the front end of the pathogen. So imagine if you're on a plane from, sitting next to someone who has this, and it's been genetically modified, they don't feel sick and they may be breathing on you. Mother nature's pneumonic plague. If you have it, if it's in your lungs, you're going to be at home in bed. If you are on a plane, you're going to be so obviously sick and transmissible, I think in the modern world, no one's going to want to sit next to you. I mean, that's a hypothetical, but it just gives you an idea of the radical difference that we're talking about between naturally occurring plague and genetically modified plague. That's my last question actually for you, Annie, is about, like you said, these genetically modified diseases. So Russia is a signatory to the biological weapons convention. Obviously, if you read your book, you know that doesn't mean much for anybody who is the signatory apparently to these things. So based on your reporting knowledge, this is a hyper remote lab, literally in the middle of nowhere. Like I cannot express how remote or kutsk is as a city, but based upon your knowledge, you're reporting in others, is this the type of lab that, where if you had some sort of weapons program or even, I mean, it doesn't even have to be a weapons program, it could be like COVID, it could be some sort of gain a function risky style research, is this the type of place where it would be taking place? Oh, most certainly. I mean, this lab was used in the Soviet era for biological weapons engineering work. 100% we know that from Soviet defector scientists, if you look at this lab, it has a six foot or high fence with bobbed wire at the top. There's controlled access to get in. So, you know, what is going on there is obviously risky research. Well, everybody go by the book at the very least, so we can be prepared. And I was telling you before the show, you know, they don't give you nearly enough credit, but you called AI use for biological weapons. It's now being paraded by so many different tech luminaries and then this specific scenario as well. Always very prescient and ahead of the curve, just like with your previous books. So, one of my favorite authors, such a privilege to talk to you. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. It's real. Those are the very people who I always say and vote against their own economic interests, and they complained about the very thing they received. It's raw. I went off. I said, this is exactly what I'm talking about. 12 seats. So, if you Democrats, you don't wait to 23, you better be hitting the ground, going hard in the south now. And download Roland Martin unfiltered on the iHot Radio app Apple Podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to do a hard pivot out of that one. It's pretty scary stuff. We're going to try and end on a light subject. Literally stuff. A light subject. Let's put F1 up here on the screen. Absolutely out of nowhere, Donald Trump. While his advisors are meeting at Camp David to decide whether to bomb Yemen or bomb Iran again, here is what he says. Everybody in Arkansas, Tom Cotton, a friend of mine, is holding up a very important bill. It's called the Sunshine Protection Act, or the we don't want to change our clocks at twice a year act. For some reason, Tom is stopping the bill. In the Senate, it's very easy to do. It only takes one. It should pass overwhelmingly in a bipartisan fashion. So everyone in Arkansas, a state I love and I won three times last by 34 points. Tell Tom to get it done. It will be appreciated by all. Nobody wants to spend their precious time running all over the place, turning clock clocks back twice a year, and having sunshine in the afternoon is better than early in the morning. The PGA tour, as an example, will somebody think of the pro golfers out here? Needs more daylight in the afternoon in order to finish their tournaments. Oh, wow, I never thought about it like that. Likewise, regular golfers, tennis players, hunters, and perhaps more importantly, farmers who want more daylight to play our work, bullshit. See letter from Brian, rope up CEO of the PGA tour below. 65% plus want more sun in the afternoon. Daylight savings time, the weight is now, but 100% don't want to change their clocks twice a year. They want SSA to lock the clock. Almost everybody wants the Sunshine Protection Act. He continues this long-screen. And at the very end, he says, "So call Tom on his cell phone, gives out his personal cell phone number, and let him know." The Sunshine Protection Act, we have passed in the House by a vote of 308 to 117. Have the Senate vote. So like I said in our intro, I feel I genuinely feel like between Trump, you know, Iran War, weed, porn, gambling, daylight savings, it's like a personal attack by God upon my existence. It's truly awesome. And by the way, this actually exposes the entire game because I've been fighting this fight for over a decade now. And again, just to explain it in case you're confused. Daylight saving is the time that we're in now. We will shift to standard time. Standard time for the fallback. For the fallback. Means we fallback means there's more light in the morning and there is less light in the evening. Which every sleep scientist in the world agrees is better for you, in case you're wondering. All these people who want to go and talk about experts, the American Sleep Scientist Association, I have to find the exact citation. It's on my Twitter feed if anybody wants to go. And look for it. It has extensively researched the subject and has said standard time year-round will be better. If you know anybody in Arizona, they have standard time year-round. It's awesome. If you've ever been to Arizona, the sun goes up at 4.30 in the morning. It's sweet. You wake up at 5.30. It's full brightness. You see the canyons, camelback, all of that. And what has happened is that these Floridians, golfers, sports leagues, and others, they want more people to come and stay in Florida. a hotel's in the winter. So they want, like, he even admits the golfers and more kind of play golf. Well, somebody think of the rich country club people so they can play more golf and tennis. They're retired. Why can't you just get up earlier? Yeah, fuck you. Exactly. Get up earlier. All right. So we need to get Tom Cotton's. Yeah. Well, we'll put a thing. No, no, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Oh, you're going to call it. He's calling it. All right. Let's see. Put on speaker. Sorry. The nail boxes. This was not planned, by the way. We'll call him later. I'll take some of his staffers. Just left you a voicemail, but your phone's going to be off. I was like, what is Ryan doing on his phone? Voice talking. So good. So good. All right. Look what F3S. Tom Cotton, his response here. He says, no one likes to change the clock. Me included. But Congress has enacted permanent daylight savings time multiple times before. Correct. And it's repealed each time because Americans experience absurdly late sunrises in the winter. Archansans don't want their kids going to school in the pitch dark. And I will always put Arkansas first. And so that's my, if you live on the East Coast and you support this, you are out of your mind. It would be eight o'clock in the morning, maybe even 830, even nine, depending on, I think in Michigan, nine. And there would be no sunup, nine o'clock, also what? The sunsets can set at 545 instead of 445. It doesn't make any difference. But the difference between nine and eight, that's a huge difference. You could be, I mean, I've been awake for four hours or something like that at that point. There's no sun up. That's bad for your biology. It's bad for your sleep. And the whole reason that they do this is so that rich golfers and tennis people and people like Nate Silver who once wrote in his, this is a little stupid long-screed defending this. He's like, it's so glorious in the summer when it's nine o'clock and you're at a baseball game, the sun is up. I'm like, is it? It actually sucks in my opinion. You know, you know, I have to wait in July 4th for the fireworks till 945. The sun should not be up at 930 pm. That's insanity. It should be down by 830. That's normal. The sun should be up at 4am. Why? Because it's summer. And we have longer days. All right. If you don't like it, get over it. That's how most people live for centuries. So I've ranted long and hard. The floor is yours. The funny thing is that Trump really seems to think that everybody is changing all of their clocks all the time. That's another thing. I'm like, dude, we all have phones. No one gives a shit. You could make a better argument in the 1970s about changing clocks. They all figured it out. In fact, they all supported this legislation. They passed it within a year. They repealed it because parents of young children, like Ryan's, who all have to get up and go to school in the morning. They hated it. And they were killed, literally killed in car accidents. Yeah. So look, I mean, my kids walk like two miles to school. That's awesome. That's actually incredible. More children should do that. I'll pill both ways. It's up. There are other parts. Yeah. But you wanted to be light out while they're doing it. But so my solution would be since we don't actually have to change the clocks ourselves, just move it a minute or two every single day. See, I love this. You said you said we collectively decide when we want sunrise to be. I would start the opening bid at say 6.50 a.m. Whatever. Well, we can. You come on. That's super late. Too late. The sun should be up at 5.30 in the morning. How about six? No. That's too late. You want 5.30? 5.30. Who's up at 5.30? Everybody's up at 5.30. The vast majority of America's up by 7.00 a.m. That's another people who are like, oh, I don't even get up early. Literally a statistic show that that I think it's like 70-something percent of Americans are awake by 7 in the morning. Just because you're laying in your phone and that's the only light that you're getting doesn't mean that you shouldn't have the sun. Let's say six. So that it moves. It moves then with the sunrise and just moves all year long. Well, that's how it used to be. So I was telling you one of my favorite museums, the National Watch and Clock Museum. I highly recommend it. Is there was a revolt actually in our country at the time of the Industrial Revolution? Because farmers were like, why do I need the standardized time bullshit? They're like, we just live off farm time. I forget what they called it. It was like, oh, solar time. That's what it was. Solar time was we get up when the sun gets up and then we go to bed when it goes down. We don't care what time you say it is in Washington. But eventually they had to care because of the railroad and how they were transported. All of their goods. Yeah. And there were different times in say Chicago and New York and St. Louis. Which is normal. California. And but they weren't like, they weren't uniform at all. So the railroads were like losing their minds. And the railroads basically insisted that Congress set the time. Like what happened? Railroads with their power like literally set time. And so we've lived on the tyranny of the railroad clock for almost 200 years at this point, not quite. And it's now time to go back to what we did for the other 50,000 years of humanity. So people don't I'm a history guy. So there is not one instance in history, not one where someone has changed permanent daylight saving time and liked it. So I read this book. Mortosa recommended it to me. Defeated. It's a history of post-war Japan. And a little anecdote that I love. One of the most hated parts of the American occupation of Japan was daylight saving time. They were like, this is miserable. And one of the first things they did after we left was repeal daylight saving time. They'll have been fine. They'll have fun until they do an okay. One of the most advanced civilizations in the history of mankind, the Japanese. One of the first things they did whenever they threw off the American yoke was to remove daylight savings time. Let me tell you about a little place called Russia where they also tried daylight savings time. Immediately repealed. They said, oh, no, this isn't going to work. In the United States 1970s, we did it. Nope. Immediately after they tried everybody thinks they wanted. Everybody thinks they wanted until they get it. It would be a nightmare. It's like accountability. Literally. Yeah, great point. Great point. Yeah, you're like, you always want to take, you need to take accountability. But I don't want to take it for myself. Like the idea of it. You know, the long history of mankind is searching for solutions to problems that don't exist, especially in a post-industrial revolution. I need a personal AI agent to book a flight for me because my time of watching Reels on my phone is so valuable. All right. I need more time. The agent watched the Reels. Yeah, the agent is already picking the Reels for you or take talk or whatever you're doing. Like I need more time so I can gamble and watch pornography. That's the reality of most of people's lives. And so that's what we're doing here. It's like, we're like, oh, life will be so much better if the light is in the evening. No, no, no. They're like, I'm going to play outside with my children. Statistically, you're probably not. All right. You know what you're going to do? You're going to watch Instagram. So you might as well do it in the dark and then let people wake up early in the morning, at least set their sleep cycle correctly as it should be. It's the best four months out of the year. I personally can't wait. And I hope that Tom Cotton, stand tall, my friend. Get back to us, Tom. Yeah. Could you give me a voice man? I'm just, I'm just so happy that you are on my side, Ryan. I for some reason, I was like, he may, he may be a permanent dealing. Kyle apparently is huge. Oh, that's right, I saw him in a lot of detail. The daylight savings time. Crystal, I believe, is Ann Bayblatt, but she's a very ambivalent. So anyway, I will say it's better for you. The American Academy of Sleep Science has proven this time and time again. There is no evidence that any civilization in the history of mankind who has tried this ever actually liked it. And so there you go. You should always bet on those types of trends. If you support this, you're wrong and you're an idiot. All right, so with all of that said, we're going to do our AMA now live. Everybody give please props to Ryan down in the comments. He literally got off a red eye flight and just did this entire show. You wouldn't be able to tell. Honestly, amaze. I would be dead if I were you. So serious props to you, my friend. And with all of that, AMA, let's do it. Yes. It's real. It's wrong. And download Roland Martin unfiltered on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.