10/30/26: More Midterm Madness, Pelosi Attacks Abdul, Binance 6 Billion Hack, Mai Vang, Angela Gonzales-Torres

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I just had a little work done. - Oh, it looks good. - It looks good. - I hope you spend a lot of money. - Is this because you're going to Mar-a-Lago this weekend? - Yeah, I've got a trip planned down to Mar-a-Lago. I wanted to fit in a little bit better. I wanted to go a little bit incognito, you know. So we think-- - Don't think about it now. It takes a few days, and then it's going to settle in. It'll be fine. - It'll settle. (laughing) - Yes, don't look for a while, though. Did you ride your tricycle down there tomorrow, Mar-a-Lago? - Yes, I did. In fact, I've brought my tricycle along, for sure. And also some edible dog food that I hear, like, you know, is good for human consumption. - But also a great sponsor of podcasts. So that's not a bad idea, Chris. So you just had the business interest in mine. - I do, yeah. I'm only looking after the team. (laughing) - Well, exciting that you will be advising the president very soon, based on your attire. We're excited for all that, but it is once again, it is Halloween, it is days before the midterm. We are going to be breaking down the latest going on in the races and where Trump and JD are. Then we've got a little bit of Michigan, Samuel Robinson returns from the Michigan Chronicle to talk to us about how Abdul is doing with black voters. And of course, after that, Ryan, who are we joined by? We've got a big double panel of Congress candidates. - Yeah, if we have Angela Gonzalez-Toraz and my Mavang who are both running in California, kind of Democrat on Democrat general elections. Angela is a Justice Dem backed candidate who's running against Jimmy Gomez in Combin. And then Mavang running against Doris Matsui, who I think just turned 82. And both of them are kind of begging for APAC support and kind of urging APAC backed superpacks to make Hassan Piker a big issue in the remaining days of the election, which is interesting in a demo and demo race, but there are 30, 40% of the voters are Republicans, so they're kind of going, trying to agitate them. So we'll talk about how that, 'cause that could be two more incumbents that are ousted out of the Democratic caucus on election night. But people won't really notice until a few days afterwards, 'cause it takes so long to count the votes, but yeah, Doris and Jimmy, their days may be numbered. - I also feel like Ryan put on a cowboy hat for like 20 seconds and then we never acknowledged it and nobody said anything and we just moved on. (laughing) - So we at least needed to pause, - Ryan being Ryan. - Nice hat, Ryan. (laughing) - Not a Halloween related, just something he does to feel secure. (laughing) - Well, we did ask him what he was wearing here before we went to air. We said, "Ryan, what are you?" And he said, "I'm just a cowboy." Just a humble cowboy. - And speaking of secure, I hope everyone checked their crypto wallets this morning because there has been a big ol' hack over $6 billion. Allegedly, he's been hacked from Bitcoin crypto, I suppose, as well as a polymarket hack, a DHS hack. So Black October is still here for at least another 48 hours. But first, let's get to the midterms. I'm feeling really excited about this race. I'm excited to hear from our amazing president about where things are going in his final message. But then wait a second. I'm hearing that President Trip is scrapping a plan trip to Kansas this weekend to campaign for the Embattled Republican Inc. Roger Marshall opting instead to conduct a flurry of virtual tele rallies. Well, that's okay. At least I've got JD, you know, at least JD's here. But wait, what? JD has also canceled his Friday trip to St. Cloud. So what rally am I going to guys? What do we make of these sudden departures? - I am not sure. There's a lot of theories. I mean, one could just be Donald Trump was getting way too excited about John Hustead's ass and they needed to reel it in a little bit. And ironically, could be the fact that he is devastatingly unpopular in these candidates were not that excited. There was a rumor he was going to go to Michigan where, you know, he's deeply, deeply unpopular. One of those key messages has been tying microodgers to Donald Trump. So maybe not exactly the final push that microodgers and some of these other candidates wanted. But the other theory is, you know, here we stand on the precipice of some sort of restarting of the, you know, hot kinetic war with Iran. We've got all this crazy hacking shit going on. We've got Trump certainly plotting to mess with the midterms as much as he possibly can. So it could be something ominous like that where, you know, they needed to be in Washington in the situation room or directing whatever may have planned. I don't know. - There are sources in the Washington Sun saying, Republican sources saying they sense that the rallies are hurting Republicans that Trump is rallying on behalf of. And to a lot of people, it probably doesn't sound surprising. But obviously the strategy behind it is that they need every single mega voter to turn out. And so if Trump does a rally in this part of Ohio, chili cloth Ohio or in this part of Ohio or this murder Michigan goes to Kansas, what you do then is make sure that you have as many mega voters as humanly possible returning their ballots voting early or remembering on election day that they actually need to go vote for this, like, random Republican Roger Marshall who they've never thought much about at all and like don't have a strong opinion. And so the logic is that the rallies should be having an effect even if it's a turn off to independent voters, what it does is make sure that you get every single mega voter who is hardcore at least to show up in a red state where there should be enough of those types of people to carry you against a Democrat. So if we have people who are telling the Washington Sun at this point after he's done dozens of rallies, I mean, I would say at least two dozen, right? And the last couple of months, that's somewhat striking because the strategy is not insane that you would want to turn on every mega voter and they know what they're like. They know that that's what their strategy is. So if they're questioning it now, that's what crazy is probably not surprising and it's nothing we should probably be surprised by, but it's really rough. - And they have hundreds of millions of dollars in this pack to do, and they're very good at data analysis. And so clearly they have looked at the effect of these rallies on turnout and on polling. And yeah, typically if it's a deep red state, South Carolina, Kansas, Nebraska, it's going to be a net benefit for Trump, even if the Democrats are angry and it motivates them, because there's just so many more Republicans. So the fact that they seem to have run the numbers and have concluded that actually this is a net negative to us, shows just how bleak the situation is for them. The rallies seem to be much less well attended than in the past. That has created a lot of kind of quiet moments, which has open space for not just kind of democratic protesters, but also you've got a lot of flintest people. It created that incredible moment where a kid was wearing a like blue America first hat, which I learned because of the news coverage. Yeah, that's apparently a flintest, but for like a normal person, it just looks like an America first hat. And you see the guy being escorted out for nothing other than wearing an America first hat. And looking like a, you know, some Charlie Kirk Disciple. And yeah, it's just devastating for the party to think that like, okay, even our guy is a net negative in South Carolina at Kansas. Yeah, I mean, every rally, there's now multiple protesters interrupting Thank you very much. them screaming about the Epstein files. There was that one dude who was like take the ballroom and shove it up your big fat ass or something like that. You can hear it. Yes, very audibly. And so, but I mean also I joked about the John Houston thing, but that is a bit in every single rally and no one's really paying attention to anything else. So if there was any hope of him really like jazzing up the mega base by doing these rallies, I'm not sure that's the closing message that I would necessarily want to be the one that's getting clipped and recirculated, but that is what they've all decided to lean into. It's so bizarre. Actually, we have this JD Vance clip that we can play as well, which is just one of the strangest political moments I've ever seen. If this woman asking this very earnest question, a conservative, by the way, turning points USA person, as in this very earnest question about how she's ever going to afford housing and he decides to use this moment to make some John Houston ass joke, which it's one thing. I mean, when Trump does it, it's weird, but Trump is doing his Trump thing and has a certain charisma. And JD Vance does it. Then it's both weird and sort of pathetic, because you're just like copying what the boss is doing. Griffin, you want to play this one? I don't, I don't, but I will. This is a Fox news town hall that Jesse Waters hosted it waters. Yeah, in Texas. And with I watched the whole thing, I think it was all conservatives in the audience. So it wasn't like just your average Texans. A constant message that my generation hears from the right is to get married young, have kids young, have as many kids as possible. And I think what the right doesn't acknowledge most of the time is how disincentivized we are currently because of the cost of owning a home and the general expenses of raising a family. And so my question is how does the right and yourself expect us to start families young when, you know, the average price of a home in America now costs more than $415,000, which just feels out of reach for us. Sure, sure. Well, first of all, again, thank you for the question and thanks for the support. I want to point out that I think that I've been asked for or maybe five questions by my count. I've only been asked one question about John Houston's ass. And it was by Jesse Waters. That's what people are talking about. Maybe maybe you should run for Senate on the Democratic side here in Texas. I probably will. Yikes. Well, one point he talked about how Republicans had banned Wall Street from buying American homes. And I was honestly shocked to hear that one from the vice president because that is the bill that the president vetoed. He is on the campaign trail touting a bill the president. It's true. Republicans broadly passed that bill was bipartisan legislation. Elizabeth Warren Tim's got in the Senate side. But the president vetoed it. And here's the vice president representative of the White House touting that bill on the campaign trial. I was like, wow, that's bold. That's a great. That's a great note. That's wild that he's doing that. And I mean, he's not a stupid person. And that's the thing that kind of is the biggest rub with JD Vance in a way is like, you know, this person is smarter than this. Like he knows the president vetoed that bill. So he knows how dishonest what he's doing is. And it's all just so try hard that moment that we just played as just so it key and weird and the polar opposite of the, you know, the Bill Clinton I feel your pain. He doesn't listen to this woman or like pick up the tone from her whatsoever. He's got this corny preplanned joke. Again, not even original just deciding to go with the flow of his boss's new Fixie like homo erotic fixation on John used as ass. I don't even know. I mean, if Republicans think this is going to go well for them in 2028 with this guy as the standard bear good luck. Yeah, Abdul peg JD well in his viral clip this week where he said he's just sucking up to the most powerful person in the room and doesn't have his own soul, but he's very smart. And that's another example that it's, it's just him like what are you doing? Let's take a listen to the latest Abdul hit on JD here. But you know, there's always someone in that group that's thirsty for attention. They keep sending that, uh, that Ohio State Buckeye here. What's his name? JV dance. They keep sending JV here. And asking, and asking JV to do the, the dirty work, but that's the thing about it. JV's got zero charisma. They taught them not at Ohio State. When your school mascots like a nut, when you reflect, right. I hate Michigan and Ohio State. So that didn't play for you. But you know, JV is a really good hit. It's a really good hit because it gets precisely, I actually thought in that town hall, he took Crystal's point about like matching tone after he made the joke. He then like tried to land the plane and do this answer where he, he, it was a more like normal political answer after the joke. But John, he says, ass, of course, which you should know if you're not JV that that's going to go viral. But the JV thing is great because, uh, as a, as a political hit, it's, it's a really great hit because it's like you're in the shadow of the president. And if you're calling him JV, it's like Trump's varsity and you're JV. So you're the one that's just trying to suck up to the president and kind of live in his shadow and be your own man. But you, you can't quite do it while you're vice president. So that's quite a knock from a very talented politician. I don't know if it was that same town hall or if it was a different media appearance. But, um, JD Vance was talking about how like he, Trump's never complimented his ass. So he needs hit the gym. Yeah. Like, oh my god. Yes. I think that was earlier in the town hall, which is what he tried to do that call back to Jesse. Yes. Um, and by the way, one thing I should mention is Trump has been playing. This is interesting at his rallies. These clips of Harry Anton. He plays echoes of a clip of Harry Anton. You'll know the clip I'm talking about where Harry Anton. He's posted on true social mentions that Trump has like between 99 and 98% of support from the MAGA base. So Trump is obsessed with that and just think about that as the campaign strategy. That Trump thinks and it's Harry Anton talking about how he has higher approval rating among Republicans. Then Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. This is what he's playing at the rallies. So it gives him some insight into Trump's mind, which is that he is this mythical figure that couldn't possibly be even slightly more unpopular with his own people. And it's not like it's obviously not true. I know we're going to get to the Slater in the show. But when you're looking at Michigan, there were people who voted for Trump. They might not have been rally goers, but they're probably voting for up to all side. And so he's got this, uh, he's got this kind of ego maniacal. It's not surprising, but ego maniacal narrative in his own mind. That's it's entirely plausible that it's going to look at you're going to look back at the rallies and say that backfired. And yeah, related to that we were maybe we're going to play this later. The Chris Murphy, you know, got a look at the the war plans that Trump had the military put together for after either before or after the midterms. And he described them as quote, insane. He said his quote was they are insane. Like they're going to lead to a response that is that is devastating. They're going to lead to a ratcheting up of the war. We're going to tax civilian infrastructure. And the result of that is going to be that it's much it'll take much, much longer for us to dig out of the hole that that he's creating here. Because if you destroy all this oil industry capacity on the in the Gulf side and the Iranian side, even if they open the straight or removes, you can't turn that stuff back on quickly. So and by the way, a couple that with the stock market is crumbling because all of these major tech stocks are these big companies that have held up the stock market are missing their earnings and are cratering. And we have these massive hacks. I mean, it's not the narrative that you want going into the final weekend. But I just want to ask you guys. So you guys think it's just that he's not helping the Republicans. So he's decided to do these teletown halls. You don't see anything more ominous in the decision to hunker down in DC this weekend. Wasn't there a missile defense systems planted at Mar-a-Lago recently? Yeah, I did see that. Well, yeah. And I mean, maybe it's it's Iranians before the election trying to go to him into something. I don't know that he's like has to feel like he has to stay in DC or it's the advisors coming to him and being like Mr. President, you've been on the road so much we can do these teletown halls that are just the same because Susie Wiles is realizing what the strategy might backfire. It could be one of those two things. I don't know. Yeah, because the other thing is like Trump is not one to like listen, you know, or to believe that he's hurting them. That doesn't seem like a message that anyone would be willing to give him or that he would be willing to receive. He keeps saying that he's not on the ballot. I don't care. And so he needs to at some point this in himself from these losers. Yeah, if he is out in Kansas and South Carolina and Nebraska relentlessly up until like election night and then they lose South Carolina, Kansas and Nebraska and Iowa, like you then you lost two buddy. So maybe he's like trying to like get away from the crime. The scene of the crime is possible. Maybe on the other hand, he also is one to like, you know, pretend like he doesn't know his own son when it's inconvenient. like, oh, don't you know, I barely know the guy, you know, so it's not like it has to make logical sense. But I mean, and that was my my thought as well, instantly Ryan was like, oh, he thinks this is going to go badly and he wants to be as far away from the train wreck as possible. Kyle serious, he just is lazy and wanted to play golf instead of going and doing these boring rallies, so that's possible too. Not a little bit of column A column B. Can I say something quickly? It's that he in January gave a speech in Iowa where he was downplaying expectations about the midterm saying historically everyone knows the party and power loses, so might not do that well. This is January before the war is launched. So I've honestly been surprised that he's been going to all of these rallies because I like, I feel like he was ready to just say, you know, it's throw in the towel and be like, we didn't try that hard because he doesn't really seem to care that much about power. I honestly wonder if he is much more worried about impeachment than people realize. I think he cares a lot. I think he is worried about impeachment. I think he's worried about investigations. I think he's worried about upstein investigations. I think he's worried about corruption investigations because he wants to secure his legacy. And I mean, first of all, losing Kansas and South Carolina and Texas as your final midterms isn't great. And then if you have these, you know, just endless devastating likely investigations that are ongoing, you know, that is going to be a real verdict on your presidency as well. Griffin, can we hit the Obama cheesecake clip here, cheesecake factory clip so we can bring that one, you know, bring that narrative to a close full circle. I think he, I think he landed some more effective blows, but this speaks again to how, you know, Trump is getting first, he's his affirmative messages about Houston's ass. Then he got baited from this Obama cheesecake line into spending multiple days talking about the cheesecake factory and defending the sanctity of this disgusting, you know, his renovations at the White House and the ballroom or whatever. Pull again, not exactly the message if you're a Republican that you want to be debated here in the final days. So here's Obama going back at Trump over the cheesecake factory thing. What I said about them being directly responsible for rising prices, they did not argue with that. They did not deny terrorists were contributing to higher cost for families. They didn't say anything about that. I accused this administration based on the facts that they were engaging in unprecedented levels of corruption. The president wasn't even mad about the Saddam Hussein comparison. That part didn't bother him, but he was very upset about the cheesecake factory comes. I think it goes on and does a whole bit about like how they sent this literally happened. Scott Besson, billionaire secretary of the treasury who presumably has some other important things in his portfolio right now to do a press conference literally outside of the cheesecake factory. Like that is what they've been spending their time on in the final days. So yeah, Bernie Chess from Obama, I guess. So we have our, we have our message that we love men's asses. We love the cheesecake factory, but I do think that there was no, all asses are made the same. We love the cheesecake factory and we are deeply offended if you suggest the White House should not look like the cheesecake factory. Yes, but I think it's sadam Hussein's cheesecake factory. This is a crucial part. If the White House looked like the cheesecake factory, I don't know that this would be as bad as it is. It is sadam Hussein's cheesecake factory. Yeah, that's where he was hiding under. So that is the message, but I think there is one final thematic image that can really sum up the entire Republican side of the midterms. And that is, of course, this image of Amy Acton's estranged mother and her car. Now this, of course, was the Vivek ad where they found Amy Acton's estranged mother and had her cut and add. This is her hot car with 12 cats inside of it. I don't think that there is a clearer or moral thematic message to what the Republicans have been up to for this election season than this image right here. And you have to imagine Vivek sent someone out to this woman to pull her out of this dustbin, duster off, get her in front of the question Pennsylvania outside of a church. Yeah, and I mean, so now you're you're explaining clearly mentally ill woman number one. And then after you like record this ad with her, you just send her back into, you know, whatever squalor with the cat hoarding issue that she clearly has. And then you, of course, have the obvious problem. The fact that this woman is a pedophile protector who chose her pedophile husband multiple times accused, including by his own biological daughter. In session. Yes, exactly. And she chose him over her own children. So Vivek has now taken the ad down. Actually, I don't know if you guys saw this. I did see that. First, he reduced it to 30 seconds and took out any of the specific claims in the original minute log ad. The mom says, we never lived in a tent. Well, then people instantly pulled out the court records and like, it literally has your address as this park on the highway. So, you know, yeah, you did live in the tent. She's lying in the ad about lying lying. Right. So they took that part out presumably because they're like, okay, now without we know that for sure, like we can't, that's actually defamatory. Right. So they paired it down to 30 seconds. Yeah, they paired it down to 30 seconds where it's just sort of amorphous. My daughter's a liar, but no details. And now all this polling has come out that's just shown the bottom falling out for the fact people already didn't like this guy's unfavorable rating. Very high. You have a whole issue with Republican hatred of Indians right now as well that it was not helping his case to start with. And now they pulled the ad entirely. Amy Acton is out with an ad that I think is fairly devastating that just pulls local news clips talking about how despicable and how vile this was to use this horrific trauma that she suffered as a child and try to weaponize that against her, which I think just any one normal will find completely repellent. And now that we know that it's on a percent confirmed that they were in fact living in a tent, think about what these children had to do to defend themselves against this predator who's literally physically in a tent with them. So at least oftentimes, as a child, you feel safe when you go to bed, like when you fall asleep in your own room and you close and lock the door, like they couldn't even do that. So they're living in terror like all day and all night. And then and for Vivek to dry out this woman to say and apparently according to the reporting, she couldn't string sentences together. She couldn't keep tell a clear story. Like she was just visibly and obviously mentally ill. Forget the fact that you just dragged her out of a car with 12 cats in it. Like just her presentation and her affect was like obviously disturbed. And Vivek himself intervened and was like, no, no, keep going, keep going, keep going. Just because all you need is enough words strung together and then you take images so that you can edit it together and it and it tells a complete sentence at least. And then he put that on air and and Trump and JD Vance have gone around defending it. Trump's been leaning into it. His chill a cough rally the other night. He did like 10 minutes on why the ad was good and how he wishes. He said this before, but how he wishes he had his opponents mom on camera doing that. And I just want to emphasize how important Ohio is to the mega coalition. Project Ohio is one of the places that was so comfortably read for Republicans over the last 10 years because they had put together this interesting coalition of Obama Trump voters, white working class along with some Hispanic meant like this was like grudger. Yes. And so they're about to lose their grip on like really the state that was the I don't know that it was it was the most important representation of what mega was doing for the Republican party in a good way politically in terms of like bringing in new voters. Yeah, the number of reporters who went to to Youngstown, Ohio. One of the last thing on this. I think it I can't remember which outlet it was actually got in touch with the the sister of so one of the other daughters of Cletus who you know whose sister was the one that he had that he had raped so his own biological daughter that he had raped and been charged with incest for having raped. And she was because she was saying of course I believe Amy and by the way we've heard rumors that these were not the only children that he raped. And she was sobbing and completely retraumatized by this because of course. So I mean just it's not only are you dragging this all out for Amy not it's just so despicable and you know the condition this woman is in you also there's here's a whole other family that you completely retraumatized. So congratulations Vivek really job well done. We got to get to Samuel Robinson now in Michigan. But Vivek if you want to turn this thing around America everyone in America is asking you to take the hot car challenge. Get in a hot car. Lock yourself in there. for a couple days, maybe that can turn the race around. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're the hosts of Out of Character. It's a podcast. I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you going to get to us? Well, there's a specific reason why you should listen to us. 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Listen to get worse with Kyle Prue on the I-Harm Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's move over to something a little bit lighter in Michigan. We've got Sam Robinson, returning champions, Sam, how you doing? Welcome to the show. I'm doing good. Great to be here again. Yes. Great to have you. Of course, you're from the Michigan Chronicle, and you've been great at tracking a lot of the goings on in the Michigan race. Break it down for us. What are you seeing on the ground in these final days in Michigan? You know, it feels a lot like the lead up to August 4th in which you're seeing Abdul Al-San's opponent come out sort of for the first time. A lot of my colleagues, right, like local news reporters, have been struggling the Michigan Public Radio Network, the local MPR station here. They've been struggling to make contact with my graduates. I've had a little bit of easier go event. You guys saw my video with Christie Rogers at our Trump branded gas station, she was giving out $10 gas cards there. I was actually the only reporter that they invited to that, which was like, okay, they knew that they were going to get the Twitter clip, I guess, so that was the strategy. Mike Rogers is not doing hostile media. I mean, you saw him not do one of the debates with our local Fox affiliate, Roup Raj. I mean, Roup is not a biased reporter. I mean, lots of people wanting to get to Mike Rogers have not been able to. He has been coming out in the last few weeks and days. I do think that there is some energy on the Republican side. There's a lot of people that are going to vote simply against Abdul Al-Sahed. However, I do think you guys see those polls, that's kind of the feeling on the ground. He has the momentum. He has the black voters of Detroit, this narrative that he's going to somehow lose a large significant portion of black Detroit votes is just ridiculous. I have to say it's a little ridiculous. If Republicans can peel away some of those black voters, that might lay bare on November 4, November 5, once we see where the votes came from. However, it's going to be 80, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 2, I mean, it's not going to be something that we end up saying, oh, this decided the election. I don't care. Which is higher than what Alissa Slocke had among black voters, by the way. But that was interesting because Hill Harper, the good doctor, was the candidate, right? And Hill Harper had his whole steak be, well, I'm in Detroit now, even though he just moved there to run. But there was also sort of a nuanced dynamic in that race as well. The reason that Slocke and Slocke struggle a little bit. So Sam, I wanted to talk to you more about black Michiganders in particular because this narrative has been pushed very aggressively, the idea being that basically, first of all, you had a lot of black voters vote for Haley Stevens in the primary. So there's that second of all, you have this idea that there's, you know, deep ethnic division between the Arab American and the black communities in the area. And therefore, you were going to have this large defection towards microtters. There was one poll that did show a significant number of black voters voting for microtters. Every other poll has showed to your point 88% for Abdul Sayed. And furthermore, the polls have shown that there are more Republican defectors to Abdul, then there are Democratic defectors to microtters. So can you talk to us because you do such a great job of just actually talking to voters and hearing from them versus filtering it through various campaign narratives. What are you actually hearing from the black voters that you are speaking with in Detroit and other areas? And Sam, if I could tack on to that question, I remember when we talked to you ahead of August 4th, you highlighted that as Crystal just noted, the Haley Stevens thing, like some of this was real at the time. So it sounds like Abdul in the months that have transpired since did work to win the trust of black voters. Is that accurate to say too? Yeah, there's certainly people that aren't never going to get on board for whatever reason. Most of those folks are insiders. When you see Chris Cuomo interviewing some of these people, these are people that we know. These are local business leaders or local conservative activists or the national media decisions being made are sometimes like, wow, do you guys not realize that we all know who these people are? I mean, I think there's a CNN story. There was a CNN story that quoted anonymously a local black leader in the quote was just like, oh my god, this could only be two or three different people that are not leaders in our black community. However, I mean, I've noticed from the outside that outlets seem to interview the same like three people in every story. It is odd. And I think in the in the camp with mic Rogers, people have pointed this out when I put specific Democrat activists, Michelle Nard, and I believe Christina Haynes are the two folks that I spoke to a couple of weeks ago at a John James event. People on my comments are like, say, I mean, you need to include the comment, the context that these people are surrogates of mic Rogers's campaign. It is con. You know, I don't want to use the word astroturf myself. I'll let the opponents of mic Rogers, Democrats for mic Rogers use that. But I do think there's going to be a number of Republicans for Abdul Al Sayyad voting for him because of their anti-Israel positions. This is an issue that has motivated voters. Do I think it's the number one issue, you know, no. Do I think it's the number one issue amongst Michigan's Jewish and Muslim community? Yes. Well, yeah, you're going to see some Oakland County reliable Democrats switch for mic Rogers. You're going to see some conservative Arab Muslim voters all across the state, people who are sympathetic to Palestine and the war in Gaza, going to vote for Abdul enthusiastically. Black voters are voting a vote against the Republican. I think that's safe to say. the people who perhaps are the loudest voices speaking against Abdul Al-Sahat, I think a lot of the times too. You know, I'm talking to people, they say, "Oh, you know, he's an Arab, he's Muslim." Do these people even vote? I wonder sometimes, but I do think that we're going to see majority black Detroit vote for Abdul Al-Sahat enthusiastically. You know, I do make real the dynamic that exists, right? We do have tension in our gas stations and liquor stores. Are those people experiencing the tension and talking about it, always the people that are lining up in the early voting centers? I'm not so sure. Sam, you mentioned loud voices, and there was a loud voice specifically that recently made a comment. Nancy Pelosi, who's attacking Abdul Al-Sahat's views on Israel, let's take a listen. You know, when you say Israel doesn't have the right to be a Jewish state, that's Pantheon Semenic, as far as I'm concerned with all this. Who says that? Uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the Mandami has said that. I mean, I'll say I can't account. I'll, I'll say I had said that. Um, that, doesn't believe that he, they should be a Jewish state. Uh, that's concerning. Yeah, no, it's more than concerning. It's wrong. Yeah. And it isn't a reflection of the Democrats in the Congress of the United States. This new person, Michigan will see if he gets elected to the Congress, but mayor must have saw it. I hope he succeeds as mayor, but I don't agree with some of the things he's said. Inspiring stuff there. So Sam, is there a big Pelosi contingent in Michigan that is talking about this issue? You know, it's loud. I don't know how big it is. You know, it is in Oakland County. That's where you'll find the Democrats for microaggers, yard signs. I don't know if all those people putting the yard signs describing themselves as Democrats actually are. However, you know, you do have a large number of, um, Oakland County Jews who feel like Abdul's rhetoric has, you know, you, you just heard it from, uh, Mr. Turkish, the fiance of Haley Stevens saying that he's going to vote for microaggers. You know, did Obama make the call? Is that why the morning after the CNN, Caitlin Collins interview, um, you know, or Haley Stevens was sort of, you know, begrudgingly admitting that she was still going to vote for Abdul Al Sayed. Now, uh, you know, thanks to Joey Capilletti and the good people at the Associated Press. We know that Haley Stevens and Abdul Al Sayed are set to appear together once again. They've only appeared together once. You know, I don't know. That's right. You know, I don't know if he's going to. I think there's specific holdouts that we thought were going to come around for him. And because Abdul has sort of remained in his positions on that topic, they haven't come around. People like state Senator Jeremy Moss, he's going to end up being in Congress, replacing Haley Stevens in Michigan's 11th congressional district. We thought he was going to actually come around. He had been speaking to Abdul and his campaign as sort of a moderating force. Um, I think part of the, the, uh, Jewish caucus, the, the videos that you saw of Abdul apologizing for his, um, comments about Temple Israel attack. That happened much in part because of the advocacy that Jeremy Moss, um, you know, did. And so, yeah, it's something that, uh, they know that they're outnumbered. However, you know, I do think that, you know, we're going to see that in exapoling is going to be a large contingency of, of democratic voters who might be hard to capture and elect and, and, uh, exapoling. Cause I think Jewish voters make up about one, one point somewhere between one and one point five percent of the, like, oh, the national media is going to find them. I'm sure they're going to sit outside and they'll find them. Yeah. I have not, I, I, I have to admit, guys, I have, I have stuck around in Detroit, uh, measure Detroit. I guess Oakland County is a part of measure Detroit. But I'm not going on. I mean, I'm on the east side. So that's like the west side to me. And, um, yeah, my visits have been about three or four times, um, really focused with Haley before the, the primary cycle. And then, um, afterward with some of these, um, faith coalitions, we've seen, uh, black and Arab coalition partners, right, unity canvas or unity rallies happen. You know, there are conversations happening with local groups about, you know, what do we do to combat anti-blackness Islamophobia? There was just a community conversation that happened after a black woman was attacked by a group of Arab men after she got in a car accident. Um, you know, we, we, we have like these things all the time where people in a neighborhood are upset with, uh, their liquor store owner, albeit Egyptian, Abdul I'll say it in his family have never owned any liquor stores, right? These are like Iraqi call the ends that are like all right, liquor stores, completely different Arab people. However, actually, I actually wanted to ask you about that because there's this kind of assumption that, oh, yes, these, the basically Iraqi origin, like liquor store owners are going to get lumped in with, with Abdul, but are, are like, I would assume voters are able to distinguish there. No, no, they're not. I mean, they're not even able to distinguish the fact that it wasn't at all between the Egyptian and Iraqi. But like, does he, does he get tired by the association to those tensions at all? Yes. And it is like remarkable how when you tell people, he's not even the ethnicity that is harming you. So that's a real thing. Um, well, so I also wanted to ask real quickly about the Arab American vote, which I think makes up about 4% plus. Um, how are they responding to Mike Rogers? I saw this reporting that Mike Rogers had urged people like not to make fun of Abdul al-Sahia's name, not to kind of go after him explicitly, um, for being Muslim. The president, right, the party and the president did not listen to that. So what are we, like, he was hoping to stem some bleeding from the Arab American vote? What do you, what's your guess as to how, um, you know, how, how that turn out and split is going to play out? Because that national media actually doesn't ever go there anymore. Like they, in 2024, they were there constantly. Yeah, I've been a little surprised about the lack of interest in Arab Muslim voters. I mean, imagine if you're like a Arab Muslim kid sitting in your living room being yell at by the TV because of your faith, like it is kind of remarkable. The just sheer racism. Um, you know, I do think that there's going to be still as always, right? I mean, there's always people that, um, vote on issues like abortion, right? Uh, vote on issues like I want my taxes to be lower. Um, and so yeah, you're going to see some Arab folks vote for Mike Rogers. However, there are more people telling me that, um, the, the amount of disgust in vitriol against his campaign. Um, had he not gone completely, not him himself, but certainly surrogates people that are, uh, you know, walking, uh, beside me as I walk into cast tech to go see Obama. I see Jake Lang with a mic Rogers sign. Mic Rogers's campaign has disavowed Jake Lang. However, the pastor that invites Jake Lang to Detroit, Lorenzo Sule is still his faith coordinator. I don't know. And the run just talks about dual and 9/11 in the same breath like he's not exactly running a very kind of, no, I mean, he, he, he quoted the Dave Portinoi tweet calling him a terrorist saying, right, yeah, exactly right. But however, when you, when you see him at the rallies or at his events, they'll be like, you know, it's not about his faith. It's about his ideology. He tries to make a distinction. Um, he tries to invite other people in, you know, there are, uh, fair amount of Indian Americans that are going to vote for Mike Rogers. I've been seeing them at his events. Um, and a lot of those folks will espouse the same kind of things. It is really interesting. You know, yeah, Mike Rogers will be very careful. Um, you know, his, his campaign folks will be very careful because they do want air Muslim voters. You know, when I talk to Kim Higby outside of the Wayne State field house after he gets kicked out of an Abdul Raleigh, he'll tell me that he does not want Muslims around. Um, that they, he doesn't care that they voted for Trump. Prager, you guy. Yeah. He just got indicted for, for voter fraud. That's it. That's a whole other segment. We'll have to have you back on for Sam. We have to get to two, uh, Congress candidates that are coming on right now. Any last questions for Sam before we let him go. I just a real quick Sam, uh, turn out in Detroit early vote. What are you thinking? The election officials are telling us that it's going to be a higher than normal turnout compared to the non incumbent year of 2018. That was when we elected Gresham went Murray Dana Nestle, Jocelyn Benson. You know, I, I do think there's going to be a, a number of Detroit voters that are excited to vote for Abdul Al Sayed, um, 40, 45 percent, you know, that might not be that great, but to us, that's really good. Um, so I think people are excited here. National media is going to keep, you know, creating their narrative until they just can't anymore. So we will see, uh, who, you know, comes out. I would imagine, uh, we're probably going to have a, uh, a straightforward night. Detroit, it might take a while. It might be two, three a.m. before we see those ballots all the way counted. So stay tuned, drink a coffee. I will be there until the end of it. I'll talk to him. We'll keep in touch with you on election night and we'll put a link to you in the description so people can track your coverage as well. Sam, it's always wonderful to see you and we'll talk to you on election day. Thanks, guys. - I'm Hamza. - And I'm Martin. - And we're the hosts of Out of Character. It's a podcast. I know there's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you gonna get to us? I swear. I know, bold. And how nice they were or if we tip them or not, come and find out. It's the one you're thinking about. Trust me. 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They're saying this morning that it looks like it may have been North Korean hackers. I'm not sure if that's entirely affirmed, but they say that it looks like it came from North Korea, and that's who officials are pointing the finger at. But you couple this again with the fact it looks like polymarket was also hacked. Smaller amount of loss is there, and that one is less completely confirmed but people were saying that their wallets were drained over there, and this is getting really scary. We don't know for sure whether AI was involved in these hacks, but from what the experts are saying, now you should just assume when any hack occurs that AI was involved. And we've had a whole string of incidents such that people who are experts in the field say that this has been the worst time in cybersecurity history. So pretty wild, we could put this how it happened, piece up on the screen, Griffin, just to read some of the details here of how exactly this all unfolded because it is pretty wild. It looks like the hackers gained control of one insider's laptop, and then from there, so here, let me just read this, scroll back up to the top. (clears throat) Coordinating initial reports hackers compromised the Binance Engineer's laptop gaining access to internal systems used to authorize withdrawals. The attackers then hijacked a Binance hot wallet using Ethereum's EIP-7702 mechanism, redirected wallet transactions to a malicious smart contract, transferred billions in crypto attacker-controlled wallets, spread the stolen funds across multiple wallets and converted some assets into Ethereum to avoid freezes, the attack unfolded across multiple blockchains with most funds drained in less than 20 minutes. Guys, to reiterate, billions gone in less than 20 minutes, three billion has been frozen, but the remainder has not been recovered and may never be recovered. This goes, Binance is saying, don't worry, it's all good, you're gonna be made whole, we'll figure out the money, but this vastly exceeds the emergency, I don't know about vastly, but it definitely exceeds the emergency funds that they had set aside. And this is the largest crypto-hack in history. So massive, massive deal. - I saw one expert saying, it was the largest single bank heist in human history. - Has to be, has to be. - Six point three billion gone in the blink of an eye. - Yeah, and you know, I mean, there's a lot to grapple with here, the AI aspect, the hacking aspect. The also, there has been a narrative and illusion, I would say, created around crypto that this is safe. This is a safe place to have your money. And now people are logging into their accounts. And I've seen people posting, I literally had millions of dollars taken out of my wallet and now it's just gone. So it's pretty stunning. And then it's also for those of us who aren't in crypto and have our money and, you know, traditional financial institutions. - You're saying that 'cause Saga's not here. (laughing) - It was not meant to be a Saga. - It's a great, it just happens to be, but the truth. - But, you know, I mean, you look at this and you're like, well, how safe do any of us feel? Because people are saying it's only a matter of time before AI breaks all of the, you know, all of the cryptography that underpins all of the encryption that underpins the internet, whether it's, you know, the confidence that we have making any sort of transaction online, buying from Amazon or wherever else, or the confidence that we have that these numbers on a screen that represent the dollars we have in a bank account are going to just still be there and are safe and secure. All of that is really up for grabs right now. - Right, it's not really a time to kind of make fun of other people who are losing their shirts because they're coming for your shirt like tomorrow. And so, yeah, you might not, you might think, ah-ha, look at these crypto-brows who thought that they were all, you know, they were getting around the financial system and they were doing the secure thing and now they're the ones that are getting robbed. Well, you're gonna get robbed tomorrow. So, there may be, if you want, if you can laugh at yourself too, laugh at the entire time like all of the money, all of the world's money is just going to be in North Korea by like, you know, March. Like, we're all gonna just be calling North Korea, like. - What's my password? - Yeah, maybe there's some bad deal that we can cut with North Korea that's like, look, okay, can we like, we'll lift all the sanctions? You can be a normal country. Well, you can do trade, like, you can travel, like, just stop hacking everybody up constantly. And then we focus on like criminals, but like having a nation state with a bunch of brilliant, well-educated hackers with a lot of power behind them and like electricity and like pure impunity, like, they're going to just crush the whole world, like, world's financial system. If we don't, like, do something diplomatically at this. It has to be done at like a diplomatic level at this point. Like, hat in hand to North Korea, we, we're sorry. Like, you got us, you win. Like, the communists have beaten the capitalists. But they just, like, completely gutting their system. And we need to figure something out. - I want you to know, if you're just listening, Brian Grim just bowed to the camera. He bowed to the North Korean communists. But-- - Yeah, we have no choice. Griffin, do we have the finance statement about this? Because people are furious that in their statement, they seem to say this hack came through a single engineers laptop. If I remember incorrectly, this is the post that Binance put out on X. - Yeah, they did. [BLANK_AUDIO] But the vulnerabilities in these systems are so obviously inexcusable at this point. It's insane that they are now trying to cover their own ass by saying, "I can find it. This isn't it, but I'll go find it," that it went through a single laptop, basically. Yeah. And I was sure it even covers that, because that sounds like it's such rinking competence. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. That's the CoBC letter tweet that I was reading is based on the information that came from that Binance statement that you're talking about. And people, I don't know if you guys remember all the backstory with Binance, founded by this guy, CZ, indicted under the Biden administration and for a variety of reasons, and then pardoned under the Trump administration after all sorts of financial benefits accrued to Trump and the Trump family. But in any case, yeah, this is Binance saying their initial investigation suggests a security incident may involve a compromised dev ops engineers laptop. So that's how vulnerable this ultimately was, apparently, that you could just send to I know I was a fishing email or what went out, but you just, yeah, you just needed one exactly. You just needed one person to have their system not be completely secure. And now six billion dollars, six billion dollars are gone. It doesn't seem sustainable and it seems like at a certain point, a lot of this stuff is going to have to be illegal in some way or maybe the cat's already out of the bag and people can just do this with open models if they're not using Claude. But all these big companies really rushed to get in on AI and it seems to now be eating away at the own capital destructors that created, which I think leads me nicely to Google who reported their earnings around AI. And during alphabet earnings call, chief business officer Philip Schindler said the slowdown of their earnings was caused by lower monetization. We were seeing an AI mode. That's a worry given that Google is spending enormous sums on infrastructure 54, 51.4 billion went out the door in quarter three, around two thirds of it going to servers and network equipment, the rest funded data center bills. And what they're reporting is they are losing large amounts of money that they used to make on Google ads because they put this AI mode at the top of Google. So instead of scrolling down and seeing ads, you're just seeing this AI mode. So it's really interesting. They all really rushed to get into it and it's literally taking eating their own lunch. And what's interesting on top of that is that they haven't actually lost money yet. What they're saying is that they're not able to monetize these, you know, the Gemini responses in the same way. But what they've done is they're just squeezing the hell out of their current business customers. And so they actually have slightly grown their ad revenue, but they're basically robbing businesses in order to do it. In other words, they're changing, you know, what, like in the past, you would buy a search term, and you would only pay specifically for those search terms. Now they're adding what they call, you know, search terms that are similar, you know, variants. And it's a bunch of junk. And then they force people to kind of pay for that extra junk. So it's not a long term solution. What they're doing is just just ripping off basically advertisers to make an extra buck to try to cover up the fact that this AI isn't returning any revenue for them. Look at these tickers, folks. This is Intel down 20% in a couple days because there was a big earnings miss from both Amazon and Intel and some other companies as well, tech focused companies. And so that's leading to this sell off, you know, kind of across the board. And Griffin, if you could put up that other graphic from Kovie C letter that shows a bunch of the companies and how much they've fallen, keep in mind, this stock market is really, you know, underpin largely by like seven large companies. So here's the tech stocks that are in bear market territory. You can see the list here at love and don't know what that is actually. Or we have Coinbase. You got to go. I love that. You got to go. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. Let's talk about that yet. Western digital Oracle armholding circle, Sanders, Robinhood, Seagate, ServiceNow, Supermicro computer, Intel, Adobe Broadcom, Marvel technology, Alphabet, that's Google, IBM, Micron, and Metta all down more than 20% and some of them a lot more than 20%. And so, you know, there's a real question, is this, is it happening, right? We've been wondering if there's going to be, if AI is a bubble, I think most people think it is. That doesn't mean that AI is an incredibly consequential technology. You guys probably know I'm personally in the camp that it is an extremely devastatingly. I would say consequential technology. I also think that it is likely to lead to some sort of a massive stock market crash because similar to Railroad similar to the dot com bubble internet was very transformative. There also was a giant stock market crash and a bubble that was built up. We're seeing the massive build out. So, anytime you have a lot of companies that are pulling back, we've seen warnings coming from some inside the industry about the financial situation. I don't know, guys, it's all very ominous between the hacking, between the financial situation. Then you've got the US military that's like retraining soldiers how to dig mass graves and threatening existential insanity, apparently, on Iran. It's really a pretty ominous landscape out there right now. I just want to say that the administration was trumpeting the economic growth numbers yesterday and John Carney, who writes, honestly, is a very good economic newsletter every single day at Breitbart. It's called their business digest, points out that the Commerce Department reports the economy grew at 3.4% annualized rate in the third quarter. It's accelerating from 2.2% in the second quarter and beating economist expectations. Business investment drove the acceleration, but where was the business investment going to? Non-residential fixed investment grew at 12.7% annualized rate, contributing to 1.78 percentage points to GDP growth. It was going to, as John writes, the most impressive numbers came from information processing equipment. Investment in computers and peripherals contributed 0.72 percentage point to the GDP growth. Their information processing equipment contributed another 0.14 point, so nearly 9/10 of a percentage point of economic growth came from business investment in information processing equipment. So when you drill down into the specific directions of the GDP growth, and then you look at the fact that the SAP 500 is what like 30%, 35%, the Mag 7 companies, the bubble recipe with the circular investment scheme as well is just glaringly obvious. Here is one thing that's up, though, and that's oil, so there you go. There we go. Oil is in the green, guys, don't worry. Those barrels in my backyard are just getting more and more valuable. Ryan is a character from it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Have you seen the plot of the episode where they go around and they pump their own gas into the barrels and keep it, so they're going to sell that at a profit? That's the way to go right now. I don't believe it might not be the worst idea in the world. We'll really subpreprepricate with all the things you can order. The premium membership, a good idea, a cowboy, a good idea. Well, there's one area where things are going really swimmingly, and that's the Muse AI, which is solving a lot of people's issues, DoorDash has reported that they've received not tens, but a couple hundred orders through Muse, so everyone's really taking off in that direction. They've only gotten 200 orders through the Muse AI app, and there must have been all pizzas that Zuckerberg ordered or something like that. This technology is really changing. There's a lot of ones that code in San Francisco, basically, probably. I mean, hundreds is crazy low, considering how many people have signed up for Muse. That is really true. I wonder what people are mostly using it for. I am curious about the use case. Please don't give it access to your bank account, people. Please don't do that. If you work at Binance, do not give it access to your work laptop. Did you guys see that there was some, I can't remember which, come to Deloiter, so I have some contractor that gave their AI agent access to, like, classified government systems, and it, I don't know what a downloaded, a bunch of stuff, it shouldn't have, whatever. I mean, so people are just, like, they're just absolute idiots where this is concerned. And I think it's, I mean, you know, people are used to a certain level, I guess, of trust in companies of like, well, if they're putting the product out, it has to be safe. You know, if they're putting this product out and I'm allowed to connect it to the bank account, it must be fine or allowed to connect it to the classified DHS system or whatever it was, it must be okay, but you cannot take that for granted. Like, you are on your own to think this through and please, please think it through. There was another crazy thing that happened. I think we have an element for this too, where somebody hacked into some of the freezers at commissaries at, I don't know if it was one military base or multiple military base. [BLANK_AUDIO] Okay, six bases, malfunction, and here, listen to this part, in at least one of the cases of freezer didn't simply stop working, instead the cooling unit's temperatures were cranked up overnight, yielding massive amounts of wilted or melted food in the morning comes as the Pentagon prepares every major US military base to operate for at least 90 days without outside electricity, fuel, water supplies. One person was that I saw was theorizing, you know, sometimes hackers, they'll sort of like tests like, what can we do, what can we get away with? This could be a sort of like test run of how what systems are able to gain access to. I'm also reminded something very similar just happened in France, in grocery stores in France, where there were a bunch of freezer systems in just random grocery stores, not on military bases that were hacked into and disabled and a bunch of food spoiled as well, so I don't know, it's all very unnerving. But don't worry, we're adding chat GPT to every whirlpool and refrigerator, so that when I put my milk in, it can scan it and let me know that it's expired. I couldn't figure that out any other way, so. Yeah. Next time we have a, I can't smell it. Next time the billions are stolen from Binance, it's going to be like your refrigerator. Hacking into a crypto wallet to sustain its, it's AI spend or it's compute spend. Yep. Well, quite a few different storms brewing around these midterms as crystal alluded to. Let's get to some other segments. We have two Congress people up next, let's talk to them now. So in California, since they moved to the top two system, oftentimes you'll have either two Republicans or two Democrats in a general election and in two races that we're going to focus on today, one Northern California, one Southern California, and my van is running against incumbent Doris Matt Sui up in the Sacramento area, and Angela Gonzalez Torres is challenging Jimmy Gomez in the Los Angeles area, is that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The heart of California is a whole nother world to us over here. Yeah. It's a Griffin. Not a Griffin. The rest of it. Just do not understand. It's Los Angeles. I don't know if you've heard of us. Yeah. I've heard it. I've heard it. It's a very diverse district, though. I mean, you've got part of downtown, Korea town, then you've got Highland Park, Glass of Park up there. So very different communities all coming together in that district. Exactly. And my van, my colleague, Julian Andrew, on your own, a recent piece over a drop site had lined, APAC Align Groups gift, Doris Matt Sui, a $785,000 blitz of last minute attack ads coming through a variety of APAC and APAC-linked packs. They're not doing it with their own name. Doris Matt Sui herself has loaned her campaign in order to sum out of money. What, how has, why is APAC interested in this race? Well, I think APAC is interested in the race because I've been pretty vocal about the genocide that's happening in Gaza. And long before I ran for Congress about a year ago when we launched, about three years ago, I actually led the effort for a ceasefire resolution in the city of Sacramento. And I've been in front of the federal Matt Sui building, the building name after them, at Sui family, with our Muslim siblings and Palestinian siblings to really call for a ceasefire. And so they know that I've been vocal about the issue. But it's also because the current Congresswoman is probably behind on polling. I mean, you just said to yourself, Ryan, this past week, and she loaned herself about $4 million in totality for this race, about $7 million in this race. And no one should be able to buy their seat into Congress. And Angela, so Hassan Piker has become an issue that Doris has injected Hassan Piker into that particular race. But also in your race, there's this thing called a red box, which candidates know about, which is where the candidates kind of signal publicly to a Super PAC what they would like to see people, Super PACs advertise. Because they're not allowed to communicate privately with them. So they communicate in this cryptic public way. They say here, Angela Gonzalez Torres is campaigning and raising money with an online political influencer who has proclaimed that America deserved 9/11. And then they basically say that they want them to specifically target ads at Democrats over 40 who will be offended by this Hassan Piker connection, all minor parties, and all Republicans. Right. You're so right. Yeah. Is that because they don't want it to show up in Google? Like that could be like, so Hassan Piker has done some fundraising for the campaign and has tried to boost your campaign, what has, you know, has he publicly gone after your connection to him or is this the, or is he's doing it, this, this kind of subtle private thing? How is it, how's that playing out in the race? I mean, yeah, I, I think it's another sign of bad judgment and desperation representative Gomez, his office is also using official office funds, discretionary dollars that should be put back into the community for mailers. And so we haven't seen that in a decade as well. So there's just all these different signs because a lot of people are really turning their back on him this time. And, and yeah, I, this, this district is so progressive. I mean, it's a safe blue seat. We really can choose which kind of Democrat we want to elect and it's, that's something that's, I don't think it's going to work in this district, but they really don't have anything else. I think in there, there's also something about me not disclosing my student loans. I'm a first time candidate. Totally forgot about that. I thought people didn't, I didn't know people wanted to see that. So we just had to pay a late fee, but really things like that, you know, they're really trying to stretch. And it's just not going to work. Angela, and my both of you have really inspiring personal stories and, you know, immigrant stories that I think would be relatable to a lot of people and inspiring to a lot of people. If you could just share a little bit about yourselves and how you came to these races and just so people know you're both challenging Democratic incumbents from the left. I would say, you know, Israel has emerged as a central dividing line in a lot of ways. And in both of your races, although it's not obviously the only thing that's going on, Angela, if I could start with you just a little bit of your personal story. Yeah. So I'm Angela. I'm running to be the next US House rep for Los Angeles. I am fifth generation Angelino for generations in Highland Park. And really this was not the plan for me. I was pursuing law school and was at UCLA actually when the student encampment started in solidarity with the Palestinian liberation movement. And so fully immersed myself in that. My mom's been talking about Palestine for a long time. But like many other Angelinos, I've just been so bound to capitalism. I mean, even working two jobs through the primary election is a reality for so many of us with the cost of living, continuously getting in the way of us being able to live our lives. But I think I really felt the urgency of the moment as well when, you know, I saw the blueprints. ISIS currently operating under to terrorize our immigrant communities. We're created in Gaza and I just learned so much about this complicity and Gomez, representative Gomez being one of five, you know, top five recipients of campaign contributions or he's accepted the most money from APAC than any other California Democrat. And yeah, it was, I said enough as enough I asked him to sign on to block the bombs and to really show up for our community. And I had no idea he would find himself under investigation, but I take that very seriously as well being raised by a single mom who, you know, we've been building women empowerment programs here in East LA for a long time. And so yeah, we're trying to get down to the bottom of it. Go ahead, my. Yeah. And a little bit about me. My name is Mai Vang. I'm the proud daughter of Moong refugees, eldest of 16 children in my family. I'm a current city council member and I grew up in South Sacramento, born and raised. I grew up on Medicaid and food stamp and had enough in for these critical programs. I probably wouldn't be here today. I really believe that government can be used for force of good if you have the right people elected into the halls of Congress at city hall. I was the first in my family to do the college and then I came back home to love on and help mom and dad and help the community that raised me. I was, I came back as a community organizer, started a nonprofit call HIPP, Mung Innovating Politics to get our moong community, but our diverse community in South Sacramento engaged in the political process. I was on the school board for one term, four years and I'm a current city council member now and I often share the story of how I actually love being a city council woman because I love seeing the tangible change that we can create at the local level and never really saw myself running for Congress. Until last year when Trump was reelected in 2024, we entered 2025 and really didn't hear much from the Congresswoman and we were working with immigrants and refugees to really help them because they were getting kidnapped by ice taken by ice and we were building cases around many immigrants and refugees and there were many advocates and community members that asked me if I would consider running because we had a Congresswoman that was very complacent and wasn't answering any calls. At that time, I actually said no. because several things, one, I have deep gratitude for the Matsui family that have served our region for 47 years, almost half a century. And also as a daughter of more refugees, we are taught to love on our elders, not challenge our elders. And I had told the team that I was just meet with the Congresswoman, let's meet with her, work with her, and partnership. And so after seven attempts of sending her emails and finally getting her number and texting her that I wanted to meet with her, we finally got a meeting scheduled. And that was the end of August. I walked into the Matsui federal building, had a 30 minute meeting with her the first 15 minute. I took that time to thank her for her service, asked her how she was doing under this authoritarian administration, and then started sharing about the work that we were doing on the ground. And about halfway through the meeting, I asked her, Congresswoman, what is your position on immigration? And she turned to her staff and she asked them, what's our position on immigration? And her staff looked at me and said, have you spoken to the state senator or the assembly member? And I said that I had, but immigration, immigration is a federal issue. And she looked at me and she said, look my, the most important thing right now is that we just got to win back the house. And when she was explaining about winning back the house, which I absolutely agree with her, I just thought to myself, and I was sitting there not as a councilwoman, I was sitting there as a constituent, with just such deep disappointment that my Congresswoman didn't have the fire and didn't really have a solid position on immigration. And then I started hearing the voices of my friends and family saying, you got to run when they were telling me to run, and I thought to myself, should I run? Should I not do so? I was like debating like in my head while she was talking about winning back the house. And I thought to myself, you know, out of respect, I thought we should tell her that I'm considering at least because I may not get a chance to speak with her again. And so at about two minutes left, her staff was like, Councilmember Vang, your time is up, it's time for you to go. I got up, I put my backpack on. And in that moment, I found the courage to tell her that I was considering. And so I said, Congresswoman, before I leave, I have one last thing I like to share with you. And she said, yes. And I said, I'm considering running for Congress. And she looked at me and she said, are you running against me? And I said, well, look, I'm on city time, so I can't talk about campaigns because it's illegal. Or in the federal building, but I'd be happy to move my calendar around and accommodate your schedule so we can talk about why I'm considering. I shook her hand. I walked out of the Matzui building. And then I called my husband. And he's like, how did it go? And I said, I think it went OK, but she didn't have a position on immigration. And he goes, we're running for Congress, aren't we? And I said, I don't know. Let's talk about it when I get home. And so we've been running our campaign for about a year now. And that's just so proud of the grassroots campaign we've been able to build over 1,000 volunteers knocking on doors. District 7, after Prop 50, has become a little bit more purple. It is a solid. It was a plus 22. Now it's a plus 7. Still a plus 7, but 29% is Republicans. And so she's hoping to get those votes. But I've been out talking to Republicans as well. And I think there's a deep frustration, disappointment, and the establishment, no matter if you're a Democrat or a Republican. And so we're going to do everything we can to see if we can get across the finish line. And I'm hopeful because I really do believe in in people power movements. I want to pick up on that point. There are-- I've heard from some Republicans who are-- they call into the serious action that they do and say, I'm thinking about voting for Democrats. Or, you know, yeah, it's something that's-- I don't maybe want to vote for the Republican. I might vote for a Democrat, especially for that from people in Michigan and Ohio. So maybe not a ton of those voters were in the districts that you're running in, but some, as you were just saluting to. What can Democrats do in the House of Representatives since Donald Trump will still be the president? This is one of the questions that they ask. To immediately tackle affordability, to end the war. What would this-- for both of you, some top legislative priorities be knowing that they might have to be bipartisan if you want to start bringing prices down immediately? Yeah, I can take that first, Angie. I think for me, the first 100 days, I think it's going to be really important to work aggressively to restore all the cuts, mean to Medicaid and food stamp, which I would say also Republican, no matter your party affiliation, benefits from it's so important, critical safety net programs. I think that immediate relief is going to be really important. And so I think working with Angie and my colleagues to make sure that we actually, when we get the majority of the House, to restore those cuts. I mean, that is going to be top priority. And then once we do that, I think the oversight and accountability piece is really important. I think at least what I've been hearing from my voters and my constituent is like, restore the cuts. And then we have to figure out ways to hold this administration accountable, whether that's bringing them in for oversight for investigations, subpoena, to build a case. That's really key. But my goal right now, once we get is we've got to undo the harms of HR1. And so making sure we restore those cuts. Yeah, definitely. And Angie me, this Angie, because I keep getting tagged in Angie Nixon stuff, and I love her. I love her, but that's on the other side of the-- but someone who I hope we get to work with as well, to really lower the costs for Americans. But here in Los Angeles, Angelenos are really struggling with just making ends meet. I mean, the Trump regime has really brought this fight to Los Angeles. There's parts of our district that are unrecognizable due to the ice raids. And so I really want to fight for that cash assistance that would just help so many families breathe a little easier in parts of East LA, Boyle Heights. We had an oil spill, the lineage warehouse fire. The warmest, one of the warmest years on record, no air conditioning in our public schools. Or if people did have air conditioning racked up utility debt, and then on top of that, all these ice raids. And that's been really impacting so many people. So definitely want to address immediate assistance where we can, again, representative Gomez is using congressional funds for himself. That should be put back in our community. And so I take that very seriously. And we're already looking at what is possible, short term. But long term, we definitely will work. There's this bicultural effort of how we're going to address this real harm that this administration has caused. And Griffin might have some Los Angeles questions, Angelenos, but do you have DSA support? I've been trying to follow what's going on in the LA mayor's race. - Oh, me. - Some elements of the NPC committee wants to drop, was mad at the local DSA for endorsing Nithia Ramon for mayor. But like, can you give us any insight into that? And also, so do you have their support? And like, how is that playing out in your race? - Yeah, nearly every person on my staff is also a dues paying member. So before we received the official Democratic Socialist of America, Los Angeles chapters endorsement, we had so many members already engaged, just because I've been organizing. I mean, we've been part of this coalition of local leaders and progressive organizations. DSA LA's carried a lot of that way in standing with our neighbors, like even fighting this massive warehouse from being built directly across the street from an elementary school in Lincoln Heights, DSA really showed up when I needed their help then in the absence of our current Congress member. And so we built this organizing power that we're now seeing help us knock thousands of doors every weekend. And so we're proud to also have the National DSA's endorsement as well. - My is not a DSA Sacramento, I don't even know. - Yes, there is a Sacramento DSA. - Oh yeah, there's a Sacramento DSA. I mean, we need to send you some. (laughing) - He's got to go to the top. - He's got to go to the top. - I got too many. - Thanks Angie. I, yes, I do have the support of the local Sacramento DSA chapter, but I'm not a dues paying member, but I am proud to have their support. I identify myself as a progressive Democrat. To me, that means I wanted to see progress in our communities. And just this Wednesday, two days ago, Hassan Piker was here, but it was actually Sacramento DSA chapter, along with UAW, that launch, that canvassing of 700 people who signed up. It was incredible and amazing sight to see. And I know that Angie has gone to Hassan. - Sure. - I know. - He came to Sacramento. I took him to go grocery shopping, home grocery shopping for my mom, and then had him try some home food. And then, yeah, we rallied the crew, but his audience is young, engaged, and ready to vote. And I actually didn't know about Hassan until I was canvassing with my students. And they has that. Have you gone on his show? We've been commenting on in the chat to try to get you on there, you know? And so folks are excited about him, and they showed up, they showed up, you know? And I think for young people, because I always say, we will be the margin of victory, you've got to give them a candidate that's willing to meet them where they're at. You know, it's about speaking to an audience whom I think so often both parties have left behind. And I'm excited to get them energized and engaged. I mean, in Sacramento County, only one out of five newly registered voters have registered as Democrats. I mean, we should learn from that and ask why, right? And so, you know, just really excited to build our base here. - I've got a question kind of leading that direction. Now, the billionaire tax is on the ballot as well. and I got into it. and argue with my dad about it because my dad was like, "Well, they're gonna take all the money "and do nothing with it." I think these are, I've noticed a right word shift to a lot of moderate liberals because they see something that a lot of people agree with that. California doesn't get things done. We couldn't build the train. The train is going to nowhere. The people mover at LAX is billions of dollars over budget and just caught an electrical fire. It seems like to a lot of normies that the left or the Democrats just can't ever get anything done in California and that's sort of the frustrating conversation that I have with my dad a lot of the time. These are people that are turning into your Spencer Pratt voters, your Steve Hilton voters. Now this isn't enough of a contingent to be a majority for Republican to win, but these are real voters with real frustrated concerns and I wouldn't even call Republicans, but more moderate liberals that feel like their sense of the left is that they will take all of the taxes that are from pays in California and do nothing with it. What's your guys' response to that? How can you change their minds? - I'll start because if you're throwing your dad under the bus me too, you know, it's real. We can't ignore that. I mean, I think it's real. - Yeah, and it's so real and we can't ignore that frustration. I mean, because they, you know, really stored their hope in this leadership that we have now and I think wanted change and it's something that I'm frustrated with as well. And so even in terms of the Olympics coming to Los Angeles, right, I keep waiting for someone to say, you know, they will share the responsibility of making sure that it's ethical and that there's meaningful and long-term investment in Los Angeles. And so I'm, you know, that voice. I take all of this very seriously as well. And so what I will say about it is I'm sick of it and that's why we're running and we're definitely, I think California and in terms of our congressional representation and making sure every level of government is talking to each other. I think we're really on the cusp of us stepping it up because even an advocate for justice like me running for this very important seat that I feel like is overlooked all the time. You know, it's one of the poorest districts in the country yet here in Los Angeles in C834 we're part of the fourth largest economy in the world. You know, and people can't make ends meet and certainly can't afford to pay attention to issues like this if they're, you know, working so much. And so I think we're really proving that it's possible to have different leadership and leadership that will also build this coalition here in California which I think we're doing and requiring people to step it up and to take responsibility and to recognize that Angelino's and California's, they're sick of it. You know, this can be kicked down the road. And I'm not afraid to call it out and I think that. I hope your dad and my dad alike will see, you know, there will be a real fighter for us here holding it down. - Yeah, and I think Griffin, for me, I wanted to ask both of you, yeah, go ahead, Mike. - Yeah, I was just gonna say for me how I've been talking about Prop 40 is really about saving lives, right? Because of HR1 and just the skyrocketing health insurance, like people are going to lose their health insurance. And it is for me, a one time, 5% tax on billionaires to be able to just save lives. And that's how I've been talking about it, at least to my elders and to my parents and just to our elders is that this proposition is for me, it's about saving lives. And I think a one time, 5% on billionaires, they're gonna be okay. So I wanted to ask both of you if you're concerned about the elections being fair because you have Trump, of course, attacking the state of California in particular. This is the latest Justice Department pressures California with expanded election investigation. A lot of this focus on LA County. Department has issued grand jury subpoenas to local election officials. It's part of a widening effort to prove unsubstantiated claims about large numbers of illegal voters in the state. They say that they widened this criminal investigation. The move escalates the Justice Department's pressure on the most popular state as the administration seeks to tighten its grip on the midterm elections by making unsubstantiated claims that large numbers of illegal voters are on the roles. Day earlier, a federal judge resoundingly rejected the Trump administration's bid to block the state from counting the votes of some 20,000 people. It says are likely non-citizens. Even though studies have found such fraud is very rare. So Angela, I'll start with you since a lot of this does actually focus on LA specifically in terms of the officials that are being subpoenaed. You know, how fearful are you of what Trump may do to try to cast out on the results of next week's election? I mean, it's definitely keeping me up a little bit and putting a little bit of stress on our community and our campaign in just in terms of encouraging people to get out their vote. I think it is discouraging some people. But I feel like we've always met this moment without fear. You know, the Trump administration being reinstated into power the second time was the reason why I'm running because we actually really need to push back against these tactics of intimidation. I think again, our district is home to one of the largest immigrant populations in the country. That's something that should be celebrated. And we've been attacked for it. And we've met the moment as grassroots organizers making sure that we have even canvassers that are from parts of the district that people are hesitant to open their doors, you know, and afraid to leave their home. Like we have people from those parts of our communities door knocking and letting people know their rights. And so we are, you know, thinking about the what ifs but definitely are not leaning into fear, you know, and I think that that fight was brought here in Los Angeles and we've been holding the line and we're definitely not backing down. Yeah, and I would add, you know, Trump knows he's losing. He knows he's losing and that's why he wants to limit our ability to vote anyways that he can. And I think for him, as he always does, is look for another reason or a scapegoat to blame a group, right? And I really do believe that our democracy is stronger when everyone that's eligible can participate. And this is a scare tactic. And before I was a city councilman, I was a community organizer. I've been on the front lines, driving people to the pools, doing voter registration, trying to expand vote by mail, advocating to launch earlier vote centers. And so in our campaign, we're just telling people to make sure you vote to take your ballot to a vote center or a drop box and letting them know that it is when they're right and for us not to be scared and to meet the moment. And so that's what we're doing in Sacramento right now or in CD7, I think 22% of ballots have been returned. And so there's still many ballots out there. And so we're letting folks know that we're going to do everything we can to protect their vote. So for them to show up and we'll be ready to meet the moment. And last question for me for both you guys. Are there any, are you in any ongoing conversations with other potentially incoming members about organizing around the speaker vote or the rules that are going to be set in the first few days for how the Congress is going to operate? And if so, are there any demands that you guys are kicking around? Because I think in the past, one thing that has happened is that the public doesn't have any idea what these members of Congress are fighting for internally. And so then they don't know how they can help. They don't know whether they should be for or against whatever they're fighting for. Is that something going on or is it too early to talk about? - Well, it's about 7.30 here. Am I you want to talk about it? - Yeah. - Orally, but yeah. Well, so I will say, you know, Angie, Angie, you can call us Torres and I. We've been on several threads with candidates that we know are going to be for sure. Like Melod and Darlisa and Claire and Donovan, like we've been in conversation. They're kind of guaranteed their seat. Obviously we take nothing for granted. They're still going to work hard across the finish line. And Angie and I over here is just trying to make it out alive to, you know, November next to four days away. But there has been initial conversation about how we will organize. And I think that the block that has kind of a guaranteed their seat November has begun those conversation and Angie and I would chime in. They're like kind of focusing on your seat, right? Because we're running right now. But there's initial conversation. And I know that I publicly have taken the position that, you know, I want to have a conversation with leaders Jeffrey, if he's in the queue. I think for me, voters across my district is asking for leaders who can meet the moment to take stance on issue that issues that they've already taken to stance on, right? Like getting money out of politics, abolishing eyes, Medicare for all. And I do think that it's so important. We have democratic leadership who will stand up for families that I represent. And so I look forward to having those conversations with him. But I'm also an organizer at heart. And I look forward to working with my colleagues on talking about what are some of the key issues in agenda. And then we also have the progressive caucus too, right? I think, you know, I've come from-- in organizing, but I've governed before. So I also know we have to navigate these kind of nuances. But for me, it's also going to be organizing with all of my colleagues as well and figuring out what are some of the key issues we're going to put forth. And I look forward to those conversations. - Yeah, can I add too? Because I do think we need more organizers in office and this is proof as to why. Because we've been in constant conversations. And nobody at the doors when I'm canvassing, 50 hours a week, it feels like a hundred hours. But like nobody's asking about how came Jeffries? Honestly, nobody really even knows who Jimmy Gomez is. It's incredible, you know? But I do think what people want is to see someone who's actually going to fight back against Trump and they want to be able to eat. This is a president who, my opponent, a Democrat who should not call himself a progressive, shares the same donors with, has found himself under investigation as well at a time when we are seeing the longest food lines at local food banks, you know? When this president is pleading with the Supreme Court to continue to starve Americans. And so people in this district want to eat. And I think that we have a real opportunity. Should we be elected as this new income and class in Congress to organize, to make sure that that's, you know, possibility also long term that we get corporate money out of politics that we actually pass Medicare for all, you know, that we prioritize things that will improve the quality of life for Californians. - All right, well, I think that'll do it for us. Thank you so much for both adjoining, mine, Angela, and we'll have links of course to both of your campaigns into descriptions, but also let the audience know right now where they can find out more about you. - Angela for congress.com, that's number four. We're canvassing Halloween and the Sunday and the Monday and the Tuesday. And then, yeah, and people can learn more Angela Guinsala's stories for congress. - Yeah, and folks can go to myforus.com to sign up to donate if you live in Sacramento, Outgrow, Lodi, Galt, Alderado, Classerville, and have family or loved ones. Please tell them to vote. If you don't live in the district, go to myforus.com, sign up to phone bank virtually from where you live, or make a contribution because my opponent just loaned herself seven million dollars to buy her seat, and what she's spending in this one week is how much we've raised for the general election. So, you know, this campaign will have to show, we're gonna show how organized people can be organizing. I know it's crazy that like the amount we raise, the amount she won't help this week for ads is how much I raise for the general election. So, we're gonna show them that we can beat money. And so, please go to myforus.com. - We got this. - Yeah, we got this. Go to myforus.com and tap in, and let's finish this. We got four days to go. - All right, we'll be tracking both your races and Angela, after the election, maybe our dads can do a little cook out or something, or our dads can do together. - They might have to be one of us. So, I don't know if your dad has a passport. - We'll talk about that. - We'll make it work, we'll make it work. All right, guys, we'll see you later. - Good luck. - Thanks, ladies, good luck. - All right, it's our favorite time of the week. It's the Breaking Points AMA. You of course, can submit your own question. There's a link in every daily show email for premium subscribers. And we also have some very fun premium stuff coming up for our live streams next week. We of course are gonna be live streaming at 6 p.m. Eastern to the public. And then at some point in the night, we're switching over to the BP after hours, where it's gonna be an exclusive stream just for our members. We're gonna be answering a ton of questions, chatting about the night. And we'll also be going live right and early the next morning. So you should never not have breaking points on your TV for at least a four to eight hour period. But let's get into some AMA questions for this Friday. It is a Halloween AMA. So let's start with Rebecca Peel. Last year for Halloween, I went as Necro Nancy Mace. My partner was JD Vamps. This year, I'll be Katie Zachary, getting the act. - Nice, nice, funniest, most unhinged, most problematic, most memorable costume you've ever worn. - Oh, most problematic. - Most problematic. - I don't think I'm gonna beat Reagan. Reagan was really good. Reagan was really, really good. Yeah, I mean, I do think the Mar-a-Lago face bit was pretty fun, but Reagan was amazing. I had dance moves, like it was wonderful. I enjoyed that a lot. - I was a priest one year. There were some people offended by that. - Oh, that's a little problematic. Okay, that's a little problematic. - It was very easy, just a little black shirt and a. - Yeah, I mean, definitely my most problematic wasn't actually a Halloween costume, but my most problematic was the one that I got canceled over during my Congressional campaign when I went as one guy's to my friend's triple ex-miss party. And I mean, it caused quite a stir, but it also was helped launch me into national recognition. And so I probably would, I definitely would not be sitting here with you fine folks today. Had I not? - Your car dash is normal, right? - Gone as a dominatrix to the triple ex-miss party. - MSNBC was like triple ex-miss, tell us more. - Yeah, that is the PG Kardashian launch of a career. - Totally, yes. - Very great. - Imagine the backstory is that I leaked my own triple ex-miss party. - Yeah, actually, that would have been fun. - You saw the 2010 wave coming. You're like, "I'm losing anyway." - Like, fuck it. - Yeah. (laughing) - That's the tea party. - That was also from an era where there was like, a social era when Facebook was early, where you would go to a party and people would take hundreds of photos of everyone drinking and then post all of them online. - Yes, the albums. - In their albums, that's such a crazy thing that I'm sure Gen Z anyone younger could not even fathom. Like, Gen Z now they'd be like, "Oh, that's for a Snapchat or an Instagram scenario that will disappear." No, millennials were posting that as like full 150 photo albums. - And there was no filter on that bitch. - No filter. - No filter. - The worst photos you've ever seen in your life and we were just, we didn't care. We did not care. It was a better time. - Even worse because you had to plug in a digital camera to your computer and hit like, - Select the box on every picture you wanted to upload. - You had to commit. (laughing) - Send it to the court. - No one sawed anything of that. - Yep. - All right. - Griffin, I feel like you've probably had some problem. - Some problems. - Problematic. - No, I do, okay, there was, no, not a costume for that, but there was a Christmas costume. I was in an extra in a Christmas music video where they wanted to be one of the kings from one of those stop motion Christmas movies, like King Frost. So the makeup artist painted my face blue, but it came out way too dark. (laughing) - Oh no. - It was like, hey. - You had to run over here for a second. - I was like, this seems like a really dark blue. Like, I don't know if I feel comfortable being on camera. And they're like, no, it looks blue. I'd be like, we'll fix it in post. I was like, no, we're not fixing in post. I'm leaving, so that's my closest problematic one. - I convinced my friend to go right after Steve Jobs had died in September. I convinced him to go as dead Steve Jobs for Halloween. - Nice. - And it was too raw. - It was too raw. - That was a nation in mourning around that one. Okay, let's get to another question. This one's for Ryan from Jasmine. I'm not sure what to make of the allegations that Matthew Cole previously revealed sources, leading to at least one of them being imprisoned, John Kiriakau. - Kiriakau. - Kiriakau. - Kiriakau. Is that the guy who's on TikTok? And he's like, I'm Benjamin Netanyahu. - That guy. - Yes, I love, I love Kiriakau. - Yes, he has blamed Cole for 20 years for what happened. They were out to get Kiriakau because he blew the whistle on the torture program, and the way that I don't have any personal knowledge of this one, so this was like 2008. What Kiriakau says is that Cole emailed him and was working on a book that involved the CIA renditions and asked him about a bunch of different people. And he, in one of his answers revealed the surname or the first name of somebody who used to be undercover, and I guess they were spying on his or Matt's email and were able to get that email. Matt was also the lead reporter on the reality winner story and reality winner went to prison also, and the mistake he made there, and I think he's acknowledged this, was he handed the document to a source, a long time source to try to authenticate it. And what the government very cleverly did is said, oh, because he did that, we were able to find reality winner. That wasn't true. If you read subsequent, and indictments and followed the testimony. There were like four people who had accessed the document and she was like the only one who had printed it out. - She wouldn't know in either way. - And they found that she had emailed the intercepts like podcast producers requesting a transcript of a particular podcast. So they would have had, she was one of four. She printed it out and she had emailed the intercept. So they would have known all that whether Cole shared the document with a source or not. And when they confronted her at her home, she confessed like immediately to it. You know, so they didn't need anything from Cole. However, it was a mistake to share the document interceptes since - Paid the legal cheese, right? - Yeah, they spent like three or five million dollars in her legal bills. And it has led to a change in how a lot of investigating and reporting is done like, if you notice at drop site, we basically never, not never, but very rarely will publish documents. We describe documents, we'll quote from documents, but we'll quote carefully from documents because there's even a thing that they'll do now where a document will be, the wording will be even slightly different depending on who gets it to try to, if it gets leaked, figure out who had access to it. So that's why when you see our investigative reporting we're often not even showing you the document, which leads to then people, or sometimes when we reference that we have a document, but we use it to guide the investigative reporting. And then you'll have people online are like, "Oh, we're just supposed to trust you, bro." It's like, yeah, I wish I could document. Wish I could tell you everything we know. But if I did, they'd be at somebody's door like this afternoon. So yeah, so those are reasonable criticisms of his work over the years. And it is a hazard of investigative reporting and it can happen to, you know, you do it long enough, like the odds go up that it's gonna happen to you. - Probably explains why the new book has a lot of distance with the sourcing. - Right. A lot of people are complaining. Why don't you give us more detail about, to talk to you, talk about the documents you have. Give us more detail about who these sources are. How are you so confident in this? And yes, that's a good point, Emily, as you can imagine somebody like him. It's like, "Well, I'm gonna tell you what I know and I'm not giving these ghouls the breadcrumbs to go out and find jail or execute the sources." - Gotcha. All right, this next one is for Bridget Cole. Emily, congrats to your brewers. I'm so happy for them. My question is I saw the dirty trick in Alaska with duplicate names on the ballot, which made national news. But I haven't seen national coverage of the trans flyers that went out in Texas to students instead of parents. It's a Republican dirty trick to scare parents. Have you heard about this and what are y'all's thoughts? I haven't heard of these flyers, do you, Emily? - I'm glad I have. - I've heard of this, yeah. - Yeah, so there was a Republican women's group and this was tracked down in court, so this is verified. That sent these flyers saying like to kids telling them that they should transition to the other gender. And so it was sort of a blatant attempt to film some sort of trans panic. And there was a candidate who a mom was holding this letter, like, "Oh my God, we got this letter. "What is going on with this?" And this was all this, the siop that was created to try to fulman exactly that sort of concern of, oh my God, the Democrats are trying to trans your kid, the public school teachers, the teachers unions are trying to trans your kid or whatever it is. - Emily, talk about Alaska. What was going on with this Alaska dirty trick? - Well, I just wanted to say with the trans flyer stuff, I have to go back and look exactly at it. But if you're doing that shit, if you're misleading voters, I hate it. I think everybody hates it. I think it turns people against you. I think that's why the Vivek ad turned people against Vivek because they're like, "You're lying to me, bro." Like this is, it's disrespectful. And part of me feels like that's could boomerang on Peltola. I think the Peltola thing is, whether she had any knowledge of it, the New York Times does tie it to the DSCC and to the Peltola campaign. They don't have it to her directly. But part of the reason I think it's so dangerous is that Trump has so much distrust. And I think disproportionate distrust in the election system. And so anybody who does that shit is playing with fire right now. And I mean anybody, like Democrat or Republican. And so it just feels like a really big unforced error. But of course, they didn't plan on what was at the former campaign manager blabbing to the New York Times. It sounds to me like Peltola is a really bad boss and pissed off a lot of the employees and they started leaking against her and they haven't been able to contain that. I don't know if anyone has any knowledge of that. We're like, if, but that's what it sounds like to me. - Yeah. - I think it's a fair guess. Hmm. All right. - 'Cause of meatball of the lizard. They leaked about having to feed meatball of the lizard. - This one's for, this one, yes. This one's for Crystal. I'm shocked you did not ask Abdul how he figured notorious loser Kamala could help him win. Is he whitewashing her image like Zoraundead with Obama? Are you failing upper journalistic duty? What's upper journalistic duty? - Well, I mean, there, well, first of all, there's a limited amount of time. You have to pick and choose what questions you're gonna ask, et cetera. So I can't ask everything about, you know, that everyone would want asked. I'll say myself. - Yeah, my own opinion is that, of course, he's gonna campaign with Kamala Harris. He did not change his positions. She came to him. She continues to be a very popular figure among black voters in particular, which is a group that according to the national narrative he needed to shore up. So he wants to win. I want him to win. And he didn't have to change his values whatsoever to benefit from that endorsement, you know, same thing. Like he has disagreements with Barack Obama. It would be absolutely idiotic for him to be like, no, Barack Obama. I don't want you to come to the state of Michigan. So that is my personal opinion on it. I think he wants to win. And he is doing it in a way that has been extremely admirable in how little he has sort of tried to change his positions now that he's appealing to a general election audience. And you can see the way that the knives have been out for him because he hasn't been willing to do that and compromise his principles. - Mm-hmm, yep, absolutely. And finally from Shelley R. Boswell, all right, what the fuck happened to the fucking set? Okay, this question's for me. Do you have someone? - That's a good question. I don't know, too, Jesus, Lord. So we've had some-- - We're all trying to find the guy who did this. - I've been working around the clock. It has been mechanical failures within our LED system. I've replaced cables, fuse boxes. I'm sourcing parts from all around the country. The set will be fixed at some point before our midterm coverage begins next week. I promise you, thank you all for understanding. And I know there's been some later shows because of that. But the set still exists. It's just-- - It's doing well. - Mind the mess. - Is it gonna be ready by Monday? - Yeah, Ryan, it's gonna be ready by Monday. (laughing) - Well, I do wanna shout out Griffin 'cause that these meltdowns have been really tough and we wanna get the shot on time and Mac and Griffin have been hanging in there trying to fix. Some of these things are like actual analog problems with physical equipment and it's not easy to deal with, so thank you, Griffin. - So guys, I have a breaking news update per Kyle, which just texted me, that apparently Trump has now uncancelled his rallies. - Whoa! - Someone told him that he was-- I bet this is what happened. Somebody told him that Susie, because there's been more leaks about Susie recently, was thinking that they were hurting him. And he's doing this as a middle finger. That's what happened is someone told him, Mr. President, they're trying to convince you to do town halls because they're worried your rallies are hurting. The establishment is too scared to have Maga and they're trying to undermine you. - I'm too hungry yet. - That's my guess. - They're hiding the best asses from you, sir. The most incredible behind you for Kyle. - So many asses to see. - So I guess he's going to Iowa and Kansas this Sunday, which again, we should just all reflect on the fact that Kansas and Iowa are critical battlegrounds and there was a Washington Post poll out. Did you guys see this? That has Hamilton, the Democrat, up in Kansas by, I think it's nine points. Now, I don't think anyone believes that, including the Washington Post, which put out a whole explainer of like, here's all the problems we had with this poll, getting Republicans to respond and trying to wait the electorate. Appropriately, we're putting this out for transparency, but we have reason to doubt that these are, actually the reflection of the public opinion in the state. However, I mean, polls are pretty consistently showing Hamilton with an edge CNN had him up for. I just saw another poll that had him up for. Other polls have had him tied or one point one way or one point the other way. I mean, I think Bland's this is very much real possibility. So anyway, Trump back on the campaign trail. So whether or not, It's benefits the candidates he's campaigning for or maybe the system vital nail in the coffin for them that is That is remains to be seen And by the way if you don't trust the polls I know we'll talk about this a lot next week, but if you don't trust the polls All you have to look at is where Republicans are pushing their money and Where Trump is going at you don't you can look at the fact that gas is for dollars at gallon Where in a war you don't have to look at the polls to say things are if you don't trust polls That's not the only blinking red light Republicans are on the ground just as much of Democrats are on the ground And so if they're worried about certain states, it's not just because of a CNN poll or a New York Times poll Yes All right, that's gonna do it for us for this Friday We will be up and doing breaking news if anything major gets hacked if we lose more crypto or something like that big week next week Huge midterm coverage the set will be back. 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