Lee Whitley Did 20 Years in Prison on a Marijuana Charge — Now He’s Using It to Help Others

I can tell you this day right now, I'm not guilty of anything. What is Lee's oil? In most diseases, the doctors don't know nothing about, my oil takes care of. And your oil is a cannabis-based product? It's all cannabinoids. I don't think there's anything wrong with marijuana. I think it's one of the greatest medicines in the world. So talk to us a little bit about regulation. How do you deal with the regulators? Fuck them. So let's talk about the irony of the fact that you are now using cannabis products to save people when you spent 20 years in jail because of marijuana conviction. Welcome back to Who Judges the Judge, the podcast meant to question the way we judge the world around us. And today's guest, I'm so excited about, Lee Whitley. Hey everybody, back again, just want to say hi. And we are... People know me by my little opening. You can do your opening, you can do whatever you want. There are no rules to this podcast. Great. I am so excited. I think people today know you by your oil, Lee's oil. Yeah. And we're going to get into how you started making that. But let's start with what is that? What is Lee's oil? Lee's oil is a cancer cure. It's an autoimmune cure. I can probably do 95% of autoimmunes. Like in the world, there's no cure for lupus. I can show you on my Instagram, I can take care of lupus. You know, and most diseases the doctors don't know nothing about, my oil takes care of. And your oil is a cannabis-based product. It's all cannabinoids, nothing else but cannabinoids. And how long have you, you know, been distributing this oil in order to help your people? Eight years, a little over eight years. How'd you get into it? Well, I lost, I did it many years ago when I used to sell pot. I went to jail for a while for marijuana. Oh, yeah, we're going to get there. Okay. But anyways, I went to jail for marijuana. And I don't think there's anything wrong with marijuana. I think it's one of the greatest medicines in the world. And when people learn about it from 1850 to 1936, the only drug they ever used to cure us was marijuana. And 1936 is when big pharma came in, you know? So it was like, what are you doing? Well, I'm going to cure cancer. And when my brother got cancer, unfortunately, I didn't figure it out when he was here at Christmas and he died in February. But I should have because he kept rubbing my mom's knee going, I love you, I love you, I love you. But we didn't know he was full of cancer. And his wife didn't tell us. Nobody told us. And were you already producing this oil at the time that your brother was? Yeah, I was playing around, but not big time. It's very small. Looking for more plants to do it because it's hard to find a plant that does what mine does. Okay. And I don't think there's another plant in the world that does it. And do you farm your own strains? Like, how does that work? Take us through the process for those listening. I got my own strains. I got my own doctors, my own scientists. I have my own labs. I have everything. You have a whole team behind you. I have a whole team behind. Now I have one. When I started, I didn't. I was with me and a couple guys from the back alley and we started it out. But I knew what I wanted. So that was the main thing. And you knew you wanted to create an oil that was going to help people from a medicinal perspective. Yeah. So is it your brother's death that's the catalyst to you pursuing? Yeah, my brother's death because it shocked me. It shocked me that he had the cancer and I never got a chance to help him. It was mind-blowing, to be honest with you. And I was pretty upset with my brother dying like that. Even the day they were burying him, I went to the funeral home early. And then the director said, hey, you can't come in here in two, three more hours. Don't fucking tell me what I'm doing. I'm going in to talk to my brother. He's dead in the casket, right? It's okay. Closure's closure. But I spent three hours talking to him. The owner said, just let him go. He's not bothering nobody. But I spent a couple hours talking to him, you know. Hey, why didn't you fucking tell me? Never got an answer, but you know. Fair. Yeah. I got to say off my chest what I did and it broke my heart to see him go. And I'll never- But this is what you do in his legacy. I can say this to the world. There is a cancer cure. But when you let it go too long, there's another way to do it, but it's a lot harder. Okay. And the first thing you got to do is stay away from fucking chemo and radiation and immunotherapy, all that. I'm so uptight about our court system, our governments and everything, that they allow this. You can cure more people with a diet than you can chemo and radiation. I believe that. You know, if they do a proper diet- I mean, diet is huge. We're being poisoned in North America. I don't know if you know, but I had cancer. Yes. I had throat cancer. They gave me four to six months to live. They were pretty well up and down my ass on it all. And they wanted me to go. Can you imagine going to get your neck done? You find out, you go in to see the guy. I took my wife with me and the doctor told me, there's no such thing. It's chemo and radiation for your neck, for your throat cancer. We don't do it. 36 hours later, he phones my wife and said, Tali, he's got a report to the Vinsky Hospital for chemo and radiation Monday. My wife said, you better call him. So they called me and I told her, what are you fucking stupid? He said, what did you do? I said, are you fucking stupid? You told me 36 hours ago, there's no such thing. Right. You know what he said to me? Lee, we got to try something. I said, so we've been doing this for 200 fucking years, 200 years and you don't have nothing for it? Get out of here. I wasn't doing nothing with them anyways. Right. So after I got diagnosed, I said, okay. 1.30 in the morning on May 29th, I was driving home with my wife from the hospital. I just got, I knew then I had it. The doctor phoned us and, you know, pretty, uh, Hey, you got it. Okay. No problem. And I was relaxed. And the one thing I tell everybody, don't panic. But I knew what I was going to do and I knew I could fix it. And did you already have the oil developed? Yeah. Okay. So I was well into six years. Well, I'm only, I've been doing this eight years. Right. I had my cancer 11, 10 months ago. Oh, so this is recent. Yeah. It was just last, uh, May 29th. Okay. So you get diagnosed. You're already making this oil. That's going to obviously help so many people. Yeah. And so you've become your own patient. I become my own patient. Wow. Like Dr. Ira Price says. In my history of being a doctor, I have never said what I'm going to say, but I know Lee and he's all, I'm also his doctor. Now he says he's done no chemo, no radiation, no immunotherapy. He's done nothing from the hospital. He told us all to fuck off in a nice way. Oh, and it's true, you know? And then they wanted me to go for a second interview and get some time. So I went and I seen a doctor in Mount Sinai, Princess Margaret, they're together. So I went and seen him and he kind of knew a little bit about me. So it was a little cool. But at the end, he wanted me to do chemo and radiation. I said, I thought there's no chemo and radiation for it. Another one. Well, we got to do something. So all our money that we spent in all our life, got to stop, got to stop. I, I'm going to do something the world's not going to believe because even though I've saved thousands of people, thousands and children and everything, people don't believe. I'm sure. Because when you mentioned Canada's, they're like, marijuana, it's going to kill us. How long did it take? You started on your own path using your own oil. 97 days. 97 days for you to be encouraged by doctors to do radiation and chemo that they said wasn't available to you to being cancer free. Yeah. No, I told them I'm not available. They wanted me to do it. I said, I won't do it. They initially told you wasn't available. Yeah. And then called you back. And then they called me back and let's do it. Well, you got to remember some. The problem with our system is United States and Canada get paid for chemo and radiation. Right. So if they're going to make $12,000 to give you chemo and radiation, why shouldn't they flush you down? They want that 12 grand. They don't care what they do to you. Like I told the doctor in Toronto, I'd rather give you a fucking 50 grand and leave me alone. Oh, but do the right thing. So talk to us a little bit about regulation. How do you deal with the regulators? Fuck them. No, seriously, like I had a license here. Yes. And we were growing, we were doing our thing. And rather than Canada. And were you growing with a license to grow? Yes. I had a full license to grow. Okay. I was allowed to grow, but they didn't like what I was doing with my marijuana. Making medicine as opposed to just. Making medicine. Making. Helping people. They said, you can't, you can't help people. I said, well, you're not telling me what I can do because I'm helping people. So let's talk about the irony of the fact that you are now using cannabis products to save people when you spent 20 years in jail because of marijuana conviction. Yeah. And only marijuana. Only marijuana. Tell us about that. Tell us about what happened because your, your case is quite the odyssey. You had an extradition component to your charges that went all the way up to the Supreme Court of Canada. That's right. Before you got sent. Let's talk to us about that. Well, I got busted with the, um, cops and, you know, for. You get arrested. In Canada. Conspiracy to traffic in Canada. Right. So I was charged in Canada. Yes. And then. And the charges related to purchasing or picking up marijuana from the States and bringing it to Canada for sale. No, they had nothing on me. I can tell you this day right now, I'm not guilty of anything. Okay. Okay. And if you, if you looked at my case, if you went over to the States where I was, there's not one FBI guy that can say anything. Not one drug enforcement, not one police officer, not one DA. They don't know nothing about me. The Canadian police went over there and fucking lied to them and they got me arrested. And then I was in court and everybody was saying to me, Hey, they're charging you with CCE ongoing criminal activity. Well, that starts at 60 to a hundred years. So Angelo Moussantano was my lawyer. Okay. He's back in Canada now because he won too many cases. They barred him from there. They said, we don't want you back here. Angelo told me, Lee, don't go to the fucking States. Don't think they won't give you 80 years. He won't give you a hundred, but he'll give you 80. He'll go in the middle. And I said, oh, fucking 80 years for pot. You guys are fucking crazy. It is crazy. So I said in court, your honor, I'm charged here. I just want to plead guilty. And the crown judge, no, no, no, we don't want no guilty plea, your honor. And the judge is, you know, I'm going to send them. But if you're not successful with extradition, don't bring them back to court in Canada. Okay. So, you know, I ended up going, but the impact of the crime was in Canada. Why are you taking me there? The laws is my favor. Why did the Supreme court after waiting 18 months in the Don jail, I did 49 months in the Don jail, you know, that's a 10 year. Well, they give you three days to one for there. It used to be standard two for one, but the Don was so bad because of the smoking. It was, I never smoked. Right. Right. So they said I would have got three days to one. I was fucking lucky to get one. And when the FBI and then picked me up that night and took me there, they didn't even want me to take my phone book. I said, I got my fucking trial here, buddy. I'm going to face, I'm not leaving. So in Canada, you face extradition. Your case goes up to the Supreme court. Supreme court approves your extradition, sends you to the United States. Which state were you prosecuted in? Buffalo. In Buffalo. Buffalo, New York. And what were the charges that you faced in Buffalo? CCE, ongoing criminal activity. Okay. Which starts from 60 to a hundred years. Right. And trafficking, conspiracy to import. And all just marijuana. Just marijuana. And so did you have a trial? No, I had. You pled guilty in the States. Do you know Angelo Musentano? No, I've. Okay. So he's a really good lawyer. He's back in Canada now. He sat me down and he told me straight, Lee, listen to me. Doesn't matter if you're fucking guilty or not in this country. They got 10 witnesses against you and they're all in jail and they won't release them until you go to trial, but they're going to release them. He said, I'm begging you to take the deal. Well, you got to look at this time. And what was the deal? What was the deal that was on the table? I had seven years in, six and a half years in. He said, they're going to give you about 15 years, maybe 20 at the most. I said, okay. So I took the deal, 15. And pled guilty to what? Conspiracy to traffic. Okay. Possession, something like that. And that fucking judge went up one side of me and down the other side of me. He said, the only reason I'm not giving you a sentence where you'll never see daylight. He said, you're not going to be a young man, but you won't be a real old man. So you'll have some time. And I thought, holy fuck, how much time am I getting? You know what I mean? I'm only 37. Wasn't that worked out in advance? Like in accordance with your plea, when your lawyer says you're getting like 15, 20, what were the prosecutors asking for on the plea? But it was in the middle. Okay. They wanted it in the middle and they got it in the middle for me. So I said, okay, no problem. But I can honestly say right now, I wasn't guilty of nothing. I didn't do nothing wrong, you know? And then they went and picked my brother, John up, my older brother. And they told, they come and see me and they said, hey, you don't fucking waive your extradition. We're going to arrest your brother and give him fucking 50 years with you. I said, he's a big boy. Fucking next day, he was right beside me in Don jail, right dead beside me. I said to the, the warden come up and he goes, hey, Whitley, your brother's here. I said, bring him up. He can sleep, cause I wouldn't let no one sleep in my cell, right? I go, fuck yous. You know, do you want to fight? I'm going to fight. Put me in the hole. I don't care. So they brought my brother up and he stayed with me for about a year and a half. And he said, hey, no disrespect. I'm pleading guilty. You know what he did wrong? Drove a guy to the border. Drove one of the guys they said I was working with to the border and let him off on this side. Didn't take him across on this side. And where did he plead guilty? Canada or the United States? United States. How much time did he get? Between four and five, something like that. Four to five years for driving someone to the border on a marijuana related. But he was on charge with CCE, ongoing criminal activity. Right. That starts from, that's a mafia charge. Yes. Okay. You're not even supposed to use it, but they give it to us. Yeah. So I told him, I said, hey, do what you got to do. He was there. Finished his time, got a prisoner exchange, got back to Canada and come to visit me in the Don. Before you even made it to the state? Before I made it to court. You know, it was just a shit show. And what's it like 20 years in the States? What's their prison system like versus ours? From like, obviously inside. The federal, the federal, the federal prisons over there. I was in a triple max security. One of the highest ones, FCI McKean, Pennsylvania. Canada is a much worse. Our penitentiaries are much worse than, because in Canada, you can't, you're a child molester or you're rapist or anything. You're not going into the population because they're going to fucking kill you. Right over there. They don't give a shit. They put everybody together and say, you touch them. We'll give you 30 more years. Well, wow. So like the pedophiles are protected in the States? They're protected. To a point. But some guys that are doing a hundred years, they don't give a fuck. What are you going to do to me? Like, you know, I was with guys that are doing 150, 120 years for marijuana. Marijuana. Like I can't get a prisoner exchange. Unbelievable. For something that's legal, for a plant that's not only legal and being distributed by the government itself, being taxed by the government from every single angle, but something that you know is actually healing and curing people. They wanted me to sign a statement that they made up. Like they invented a statement? They invented a statement. They said, sign, read it good, study it, take a copy with you. And if you testify against these guys, we'll drop all charges on you. Then it was, they come and see me in the jail. They said, look, we'll give you a home in Florida. We'll pay you and get you a new car. And I said, what do you want me to do? You give me that because I'm a good guy? They said, no, we want you to fucking testify. I said, I'm not doing that. So that's what they were prepared to do for you to testify against someone. You know what I did? I did an affidavit with Dean Beckett and said, if anything happens to me in prison, the Papilia family had nothing to do with, and they didn't. They had nothing to do with it. You know what the FBI and them said to me? Don't worry, they've done lots wrong. It's about time we locked them up. Wow. And see, they wanted him over there. Don't forget, Johnny Papilia was the French connection. You know, they wanted him. I said, I'm not a fucking rat. But the last guy that ratted on Johnny Papilia, the day Johnny got out of jail, they cut his throat in fucking Florida. Oh, you're hidden all right, shit, right at his doorstep. Right. But I wasn't scared of that shit. I was more like, why am I going to put people with my nightmare that I'm living and they had nothing to do with it? Even if they had something, I can't get up. And even though that's what would happen to you. Yeah. Because that's what brought you into their trap to begin with, was people writing on you. Listen, if I had the right lawyers, I could fucking sue the United States to sue fucking Canada. But, you know, you go to lawyers and talk. And once it gets into the police, you got to charge them. They don't want to charge them. Right. And you need someone that's going to attack them. I know the court system better than most people. I could be a lawyer. Like one time, I'll tell you a little story. I don't know. You know, Dean Beckett? Yes. So he was my lawyer on a house that burnt on fire. OK. So they charged me with arson. No, they charged me with insurance fraud. OK. So Dean, that morning, they thought he was going to get a remand, but it didn't. It was a murder trial. So he had to do it. I said, well, I'm not waiting anymore. And the judge said, what do you mean by that? I said, I'm going to defend myself. He said, you're going to what? Mr. Wheatley, this is a 14 year sentence. All right, I can do it. If I lose, I'm not going to lose. I didn't do anything wrong. So I defended myself. It was a judge and jury. OK. I canceled the jury. OK. And I went judge alone. So they put three weeks aside for the trial. And I defended myself. I'll show you the transcripts one. Do you want to have fun? I do. Fucking read them. So I don't know if they call her the British Bulldog, the crown attorney in Hamilton. OK. So she was doing the case. And everybody said, oh, they put the British Bulldog on you. I don't give a fuck who they put on me. So I said, you know, I'm pretty multi, right? And I said, I don't give a fuck. Let's rock and roll. So we started the next day. So when I started the first thing, I said, Your Honor, I would like to bring back the fire marshal. He said, OK. He said, well, he's not here today. I said, no, as long as we get him before the end of the trial. And the judge says, do you have long? I said, maybe a half a day. Question him because he's a liar. We found out when I questioned him. Yes. You won't believe this. We found out that he was a liar. Like you caught him lying in regards to your case. He wasn't even at the scene. He was testifying for another fire marshal that was on holidays. And I said to him. What year is this? Like, how long are we? How long ago is this? That happened in 90. Something like that, I think. I don't know. I beat the charge. Right. You know, I got found not guilty. Matter of fact, you know how I beat the charge? Enos Falko was the adjuster. OK, she was on the stand. She grabbed her hair and went to be badgering me. The judge, John, Senior John White, went, answer the question. Your credibility is at stake with me. She's looking at the judge for help. He says, I'm not helping you. You know, the crown jumps up, Your Honor. There's that. Anyways, she jumps up and said, Your Honor, with this very important question and this very important answer, I want to reconsider my case. You know, I want a 10 minute recess because they're going to withdraw the charges, right? Right. So the judge goes, well, hang on. He's having fun, too. Hang on. Mr. Whitley is not a lawyer. And I don't want to ruin his path of what he's on to. So I said to her, OK. Judge said, Mr. Whitley, do you want a recess now? I said, no, Your Honor. I want to finish with this in case I lose my path. He says, carry on. So I said, Ms. Falko, you know, you're the one going to jail, eh, for lying. Oh, shit. Crown jumps up. You can't say, I can say. Judge says, sustain, sit down. I said, you're, why are you lying? Then I went to the police. I said, because of that officer? Because of that officer? I said, Ms. Falko, let me ask you something. Did you talk to anybody about my case? She wouldn't answer. I said, something wrong with your tongue? You don't want to answer? I said, did you meet the fire marshal and sit at Tim Horton's? She's looking at me. And I said, yeah, here's the paper. But what happened was, I didn't tell you this part. When I decided to defend myself, the judge said, give Mr. Whitley the packet. So you got all your disclosure. So I got the full disclosure and I went home and read it. Right. So the night I took it, this is, this is wild. So the night I took it, took the, uh, stuff home, I started reading it, eh? Started going through it. Fuck, I got everything here. Then I see where the crown, no, the co- the fire marshal sat with the witness and went over the whole case. Can't do that. The judge said, you can't do that. Did you meet him? He says, yeah, I met him. He said, you can't do that. Oh, everything was blowing up then, eh? So that night when I had the crown, the crown went home and she's a single mother with a child, right? And somebody from Toronto knocked on her door. And she says, she's got 10 locks on her door. And they said, who is it? He said, I'm from Toronto. I got paperwork from court from you. She said, it was my voice. So she grabbed her daughter, ran next door, called the cops. Okay. Okay. So the cops were flying everywhere to get me. Of course. So I had my Ferrari downtown. Right. And I thought, you know what? I was with this other girl. I took, took her car, a little shit car. I went home and my buddy goes, Lee, cops are everywhere. They come with their guns out and everything. He says, for what? They said, you got paperwork. You threatened somebody. I said, I'm the fuck off. You know, I'll see him in court. So the next morning they don't get me, right? Right. So the next morning I got a nice suit on, you know, dressed up nice. And was it you knocking on the door? I grabbed my briefcase. Okay. I'm walking through a high court and that used to be across the street then. Right. So I walked through the high court and the cop come, two cops come up to me and go, can we talk to you? They talked to me in the courtroom. They don't, we want to talk to you now. I don't give a fuck. So one cop grabbed my arm. I said, hey, don't touch my, I'm not going to tell you again. Don't touch my fucking arm. You know, and I pushed him away. The other cop goes to grab me and five more cops come. And the next thing you know, I'm on the ground. My head pour back, pouring blood out of my face. My tie ripped off and they're fucking settled down. Then the crown come out and goes, no guys, I found out it was really someone delivering the papers. Oh my God. So now my white shirt's got blood all over it. And you know me, I'm, my nose is bleeding, but I'm going like this, eh, putting it all over me. Right. Then they said, go in and wash yourself before you go into court. I said, fuck that. I'm going to court like this. So the judge walked in and looked, took one look at me and said, what's going on here? Right. And he says, the crown stop is your honor and want to explain. He said, sit down. Mr. Whitley, you stand up and tell me what happened. So I told him how they jumped me in this and that. Right. My clothes are ripped. My suit's ripped, everything, eh? And he goes, okay, I'm going to tell this courtroom right now. If anybody wants to say a word to Mr. Whitley, you come in this courtroom and say it. Don't talk to him again unless he does a crime out there. Don't go near him again. Right. So the case went on. I ended up winning it because they're all fucking liars, right? That's why. But I ended up winning the case, you know, and I told the cop, why don't you come on the fuck outside now? The case is over. Why don't you come on and grab me now? Me and you. Take your fucking gun off, be a man, and come on out and let me punch your fucking face in. Lee, I'm sorry. Sorry for what? There's 80 of these on me. Right. Don't give me your, that's right in the courtroom there. Hey, Monday morning, everything was blowing up that day. That's crazy. It was crazy. It's all in the record books too, eh? Oh, I have no doubt. I was furious that day, right? But I ended up beating the case. They were lying. And the judge said, how I beat the case was there was a dresser drawer. Remember the olden houses, they put the wooden drawers in. They were like three feet wide, two feet deep, and three feet deep. Well, you could put a lot of clothes in there. And they said that they didn't see the clothes. And the judge went, is this what this is over? You didn't see the clothes he said he had? And she says, yes, your honor, because he's claiming too much. Over T-shirts and ties. So I went to the house when they said that, because the house wasn't fixed yet. The one that had burned on fire. Yeah, my house. But I was out of there, right? Right. Because it was burnt out. It was burnt. So I, they had the house locked. So I went in and took this drawer out, took it off, and went and filled it up full of clothes. So she said she's seen no ties. But in the case was, they didn't check the drawers. What was in the drawers? She said, I don't know, I didn't look. I said, so you didn't look at all them drawers? There's like 10 of them. And I got the drawer. And every day, me and my brother carried this drawer in, and we wrote fragile on it, on all sides. I'd put it under the witness table. I'd put fragile, right? So no one would touch it. So no one would touch it. And then the day I got it out, I stood up. I said, your honor, I'd like to bring exhibit 21, blah, blah. Okay, I give it to the, I had to give it to the guy in front of the judge, and he'd give it to the judge. And then they'd give it back to the crown and all that bullshit. I kept making mistakes, eh? That's okay. Yeah, that's okay. That judge said, he's not a lawyer. It's okay. So the judge was like, he was, senior John White's his name. So he was assurance lawyer before he'd become a judge. And he said, I know what's going on here. He said it a couple of times. And I claimed shoes. I don't know, $300 pairs of shoes, $700 pairs of shoes. And the judge said, I've never seen a $700 pair of shoes. I said, here, your honor, here's a $1,500 pair. I put it, he says, can I see that, please? It was a snake kid, small snake kid boot, right? Right. I had it off my foot. He said, can I see that, please? He says, well, now I can say I've seen a $1,500 pair of shoes and he'd give it back to me, I put it on, right? And so I said to Ms. Fogler, this was the best one, how I got her really crazy. The night before, I got all the stuff for the case. So I went and bought silk shirts. Okay. With, took the tags off of them. And I had a black one and a purple one, all silk. And I put it on. So she was a professional. Okay. On clothing and furniture, so she can price it, right? Right. I said, okay. I said, Ms. Fogler, I wanna ask you, you said you seen no ties in the house, right? He said, there was no ties in the house. I said, but could they have been in the drawer? I don't know. I said, yeah, because you didn't look. You didn't do your fucking job. Right. No, you didn't do your job. So I said, your honor, I'd like to take a minute to open the box, the drawer. I pulled all the stuff off and I set it up on the table. I said, Ms. Fogler, as you know, I don't have education. Okay, I'm not as smart, but I can count. You see no ties? How many ties did I claim? He said, I don't know. I said, check your paperwork. Right. He said, 22. I said, okay, let's count them. And I had them rolled up so I could go one. And then, you know, the prisoner box, I'd lean it over there. Two, so I had 24 ties in there. Two extra than she said. Wow. Then I went down and got them. They're all laying on the, and I said, Ms. Fogler, you're a professional, right? He goes, yes. I took the silk shirt up. I said, here, and it said arrow on it, right? I said, here, here's the silk shirt. How much would you say that shirt's worth? Now, in her mind, I'm trying to get the bill up, right? Right. She said, that shirt's probably between three and $400. I said, oh, you're pretty smart. Good, good guess. I give her another shirt. It's the same shirt, same money. I said, oh, boy, you really know your stuff, eh? I walked up, I said, your honor, may I put this into, can I put this, please, into exhibit? Evidence. Can I put this into exhibit? I had to give it to the guy. Right. Give it to the judge and things. The judge looks at it and goes, he closed his eyes, right? He went, handed it back. Crown looked at it, and she went. I said, Ms. Fogler, you're a professional? Well, you're a pretty sad professional. Three, $400? I paid $19.99 for that shirt. Here's the bill. Could you read the bill out to the audience, to the court, please? She goes, your honor, I'm scared. He's standing too close to me. Oh, God. Yeah, that's what she said, you know? Judge said, just answer the question. And the judge, as the judge let me go on, and then he said, Mr. Whitley, that's not, we better take a break. Because he wanted this case over with. Because I was ruining her reputation, right? And I said, your honor, we'll take a 10-minute recess and see where it brings us from here. And they withdrew all the charges, you know? Was that the first contested hearing you had had, or you had watched other lawyers do cross-examinations before on your cases? Oh, I've done a few of them. You've done a few, okay. Yeah, I won every case I ever did. Because, you know, it's common, hey, law is common sense. It's like anything. You tell a guy, I didn't shoot you, but your fucking phone was at the same time you got shot. Your location, why were you standing beside him? I mean, that's the biggest problem now, right? Is everything is under CCTV footage. You know, this next generation takes photos of all of their shit, right? Like, I get the disclosure now, and it's not the police investigation that is so tight and convicting people. It's literally what my clients are doing to themselves. They're sending photos of all of their guns and drugs and pictures of themselves, like, holding the guns up to mirrors so that you can see their face. Like, it's unbelievable. Yeah, and then they, you say, I didn't touch that gun, and there's your picture holding the gun. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, hey, don't worry. I know all about that. I know one thing. If you're gonna go kill a guy, drive a bicycle and throw your phone fucking away. Throw your phone away and kill him and drive, fucking drive away. You won't get caught. But the other way, oh, your car is stuck. I blew up my wife's truck the other day. I was driving it, but the timing chain blew, right? Okay. So we took, I had a tow truck take it down. So we'll be clear, you didn't actually blow up the truck. It blew up due to mechanical issues. Okay. So I got a tow truck to tow it down. And you know, the next morning, my brother-in-law called, and they said, no, we'll tell you. There's 157,000 kilometers on that truck, zero to one or something, there was. And he's got 2% left on the oil change. When you have that OnStar, they have everything. No, they have everything. They know everything. Yes. Imagine that. Rental cars now are tracking people's GPS coordinates to where you go, even if you're not using the navigation system. Because all the rental companies wanna know where their cars are. So there's now GPS tracking built in to rental cars. So there, I seen it on CNN, there is a lady in the States that got, they changed her insurance because they caught her, they had her tracked with speeding on her thing. Right. They said, you speed here, you speed here. She had like a Corvette, right? An older lady. He said, how do you know? They said, well, we got a tracking. Yeah. He said, you're tracking me? Well, holy fuck, she sued him for a lot of money. Because they're not supposed to do that. No, I know. And they put that, you know. Yeah, so apparently when you sign, if you're renting cars now, when you sign off on the lease, there's like a provision that makes it known that you're going to be, you're gonna be tracked. Because there's a GPS tracking in the actual, like in rental cars. I can understand that. A rental car? Yeah, me too. But not your own car. Well, that the police need a warrant for, at least in Canada. But if they don't have a warrant, it's not true. You know, you can't bring it up if you don't have a warrant. Right, but now they can get like a general warrant to put in tracking devices. They're getting general warrants now. Are they getting these TD and tracking warrants to follow people on their vehicle? So the technology is there and all they need is a judge to sign off on it. They have use of it. Well, the good thing is the packet gets open now. Yes, and the good thing is, is you're not even a part of that life now. No, I'm not a part of it. You're not saving people. I don't want nothing to do with that life. What's that transition like for you? You do 20 years, super max in the States. You know, that's your life and you do it well, right? You do your time well when you come out. How do you make that transition into, you know, medicinal marijuana? Well, honestly, I didn't really know how I was gonna act or behave. But when you first get out of jail with doing that much time, you don't go out. Okay. You're, me, I was back, you know, and I hung around with a lot of wild guys. You know, they were coming. I said, no, I'm gonna stay in. But when I went out the first night, I met my wife three days later, right? And she was still married and everything. We kind of talked. I met her husband. And when I left her husband go, there's your next fucking boyfriend. You know, cause they were having family problems, right? So that's probably what straightened me out too. She had two little kids and they robbed me from raising my daughter. You know, when I went to prison, my daughter was four, you know? So they robbed me from raising my daughter. I got a chance to raise her daughter. So it was good. Do you have a good relationship with your daughter now? Oh, great one. We didn't when I come home. Right. Because she was like 28, 19, right? And I was like, listened to her the first day. Then the next day I told her, hey, I'm not your fucking friend. Don't talk to me like I'm your friend. You keep it up. I'll turn you over my fucking knee and spank your ass until it's pink. She goes home and calls her mother and says, you know what he said to me? Her mother goes, he probably will. So from that day on, it was good, right? And my daughter, hey, I got three grandkids with her. You know, it's great. She's a good kid. You know, we've got to keep our eye on her, but she's a good kid. She doesn't get in trouble. Smart kid, married, nice husband. And so life for you now is cannabis products that are saving people from horrific, horrific diseases. Terrible diseases. You must get such joy out of being able to do that work for people. Listen. Truly. I made a video and then we just, he played it today for me of a man that went to the same doctors I went to with Squamish Cell. Okay. They give him chemo and radiation. He died three days ago. It broke my heart because he come to me after to try to get me to save him. But he was a mess. His went from a thing to this big. I took it down to nothing. He went back and they gave him more chemo and radiation. I said, why'd you let him do this? He said, I'll never go back again. I said, yeah, but he might not make it. But he ended up dying, what, four days ago? His mother died two weeks before that. So even in the podcast, I put, you know, now he could at least be with his mother and take care of her. It's sad the way it happened, right? Of course. But yeah, it's a, hey, we're dealing with a disease if we don't stop it now, you know? And the good thing is with me, too many people know about it. Too many of my friends, too many of my employees, too many people that are running with me, they know that this medicine works and they got their hands on it. So they can't, you know, I've been threatened. I've had people threaten me with guns and I tell them. Because of the medicine? Yeah, they want me to quit, you know? I said, fuck off, buddy. I'll shove that gun up your ass and pull the trigger. But you know when you're being threatened, like I always say, if somebody wants to kill you, they're not gonna come and tell you. No, they're not. They're gonna sit across the thing and shoot me. They shoot me easy. I'm the fuck, I live on the farm. Lay on the bush, boom, see you later. Like they shot my best friend when I was a kid. Shot him right from there, Steve Cosentini. Shot him right from across the street laying in a bush. They got the guys. Five, six years later, they got him, you know? But it's terrible. It's terrible. You know, it's terrible. But the satisfaction from helping people, nothing's better, nothing's better. So tell our listeners who don't know you how they find you. Lee Whitley at gmail.com. Okay, and on Instagram? And Instagram, leehelps underscore oil, you know? And you mentioned, do you have your own podcast? And you have your own podcast as well? I have my own podcast. I'm gonna get my own platform too. Fabulous, what's your podcast called? I would love that. My pod's leehelps, no, leehelps.com. Leehelps.com, all right. Amazing, thank you so much for inviting us here. Thanking you for taking the time to tell us your story. It really is phenomenal. I'll do another one with you when I have 25 women for 25 cured. Beautiful, let's do it. And we'll have pictures of every one of them and everything. I'd love that. Because I'm not quitting no matter what they say or what they do. If I have to move to another country to do it, I'll do it. There's no problem. But I'm not quitting cancer until it's cured. Okay, I wish you the best.